March 24, 2014

BREAKING: Officials Say Malaysian Air Flight "Ended" In The Indian Ocean
— DrewM

The British agency charged with investigating crashes in the UK along with the company that owns the satellites that handles the engine data transfers have refined the location data from the satellite "pings" that gave two options for where the plane went, the "northern corridor" towards central Asia and the "southern corridor" towards the Indian Ocean. The new findings show that the plane headed into the "southern corridor".

The Malaysian Prime Minister just announced based on the refined data they have concluded there were no possible landing sites and that the flight "ended" in Indian Ocean west of the Australian coast.

This location would seem consistent with the debris that's been spotted by satellites. There's still no confirmation linking that debris to the flight but....

Finding debris and eventually the location of the crash will only be the start of the process of figuring out how and why the hell the plane wound up there.

The full statement from the Malaysian PM:


Posted by: DrewM at 06:07 AM | Comments (399)
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1 I still blame global warming

Posted by: Bruce at March 24, 2014 06:08 AM (igJW1)

2 I'd like to reiterate that we still know nothing.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at March 24, 2014 06:09 AM (GpU8f)

3 Maybe this will end the mystery.  Remember the families.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2014 06:09 AM (ec/gS)

4

Like someone said in the last thread...odd that yesterday the Malaysians said this was a giant mystery, but this morning all is solved.

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 24, 2014 06:09 AM (eytER)

5 Wow. If this is true, General McInerney's scrambled egg has moved from the brim of his officer's cap to his face. Still, we do not have the causeÂ… yet.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2014 06:09 AM (olDqf)

6 J.J. Sefton, just because one has stars on the shoulders does not mean one has brains. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2014 06:10 AM (ec/gS)

7 So, okay. They've located the debris. Can a plane drop some divers and rafts to start at least identifying if not collecting the stuff until larger boats can arrive?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2014 06:11 AM (olDqf)

8 Based on the new information that flight was carrying a significant amount of lithium batteries, which have been responsible for other incidents- here's my guess.

On board fire/incident which systemically disabled systems.  They tried to land at the alternate airport and missed the approach. Pilots/passengers were probably disabled at some point and autopilot flew the aircraft until CFIT.

Posted by: Marcus T. at March 24, 2014 06:11 AM (GGCsk)

9 Nobody knew anything yesterday and suddenly today, all questions are answered. 


This is setting up to be a gigantic whitewash.  Given the times, not unexpected.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 24, 2014 06:11 AM (BZAd3)

10 6 J.J. Sefton, just because one has stars on the shoulders does not mean one has brains. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2014 10:10 AM (ec/gS) True. But I always thought McInerney was a pretty straight shooter. To off on a limb like this, UNLESS, the wreckage is a ruse and the plane really is in Pakistan. Now, I take the tinfoil hat off.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2014 06:12 AM (olDqf)

11 Call me crazy, but I don't believe a word these Malaysians say on anything. Keystone cops. It wouldn't surprise me if it crashed in ocean because the pilot went nuts, nor would it surprise me if it was flown to Pakistan. I don't trust any of the governments to tell us the truth, however.

Posted by: Dan at March 24, 2014 06:12 AM (COpZ4)

12 A) I always believed that 777 was sleeping with the fishes B) Malaysia is a third world country: Kinda like what obama has in mind for us C) Now Why?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 06:12 AM (t3UFN)

13 10 Meant "to go out on a limb."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2014 06:13 AM (olDqf)

14 Martians got it

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 24, 2014 06:13 AM (T2V/1)

15 It's a strange sensation to be relieved that a airliner full of passengers plunged into the middle of the ocean. It's a tragedy that the passengers are almost certainly dead, but at least it's not part of some terrorist plot.

Posted by: Amichel at March 24, 2014 06:13 AM (NAlbk)

16 Well WTF they had time to move the debris from one location to the Alibi Location... For all we know that plan debris came from a landing zone like site Y Thats a set up... Farfetched? Well the pedestrians did elect a community organizer 2 x

Posted by: 7 Days in May at March 24, 2014 06:14 AM (WYUAi)

17 All according to plan. Mwahaha.

Posted by: The Evil Koch Brothers at March 24, 2014 06:14 AM (MMC8r)

18 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 24, 2014 06:14 AM (PYAXX)

19 Folks are lucky the Aussies are now involved. They are the most competent, professional force in that region. They know the Indian Ocean well.

Posted by: Marcus T. at March 24, 2014 06:14 AM (GGCsk)

20 John Schindler ‏@20committee US SIGINT went deaf on Russia at the beginning of the last Cold War too. Bad timing. Due to a - wait for it - traitor. Shocking, I know. John Schindler ‏@20committee More indications US SIGINT is suddenly deaf on Russia...remind me again how that could have happened. http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/ europe/201496-did-russia-evade-us-spying-to-get- head-start-on-annexation? utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Â…

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 24, 2014 06:14 AM (ZPrif)

21 11 Call me crazy, but I don't believe a word these Malaysians say on anything. Keystone cops. It wouldn't surprise me if it crashed in ocean because the pilot went nuts, nor would it surprise me if it was flown to Pakistan. I don't trust any of the governments to tell us the truth, however.

Posted by: Dan at March 24, 2014 10:12 AM (COpZ4)


The Malaysians have been doing a lot of face saving/ass covering but with all these other countries involved they're going to have to quit that. At least until the black boxes are found.

Posted by: joncelli at March 24, 2014 06:14 AM (RD7QR)

22 I'm wondering if they found a bit of the plane's tail fin with "MH370" emblazoned across it.  



I mentioned this on the previous thread,    but   you know this isn't going to stop the rumors. The time between the plane's disappearance and   today    was long enough that someone, somewhere, is going to say, "They faked it. They landed the plane, unloaded the passengers, then tore apart the plane and dumped bits of it into the ocean to be found so that it would look like the plane crashed." Because people love a good conspiracy, even when there's no reason for one to exist.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 24, 2014 06:14 AM (4df7R)

23 What!? You mean it *wasn't* a black hole?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 24, 2014 06:14 AM (PYAXX)

24 general Mcinerney wasn't making it up. Lignet, a real intelligence group, said they had a source in Boeing that told them the plane was tracked to Pakistan. Mcinenery talked to LIGNET and they told him the same thing. He said it was 60% probability if my memory serves.

Posted by: Dan at March 24, 2014 06:14 AM (COpZ4)

25 evidence planted.....?????

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at March 24, 2014 06:14 AM (u8GsB)

26 "Capricorn One, do you read?"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2014 06:14 AM (ec/gS)

27 I'm giving the Flight 370 story the 365 day rule.

Posted by: RWC at March 24, 2014 06:15 AM (fWAjv)

28

...but at least it's not part of some terrorist plot.

 

----------

 

I'm not sure that can still be discounted.

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 24, 2014 06:15 AM (eytER)

29 Took them years to issue a definitive report on the French airliner that went down on the way to Brazil.

Posted by: joncelli at March 24, 2014 06:16 AM (RD7QR)

30 Here's hoping they get the cockpit voice recorder intact. Unless the pilot/someone fucked with that device, too. I'm not ruling out terrorism yet, whether pilot instigated or otherwise.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2014 06:16 AM (ZshNr)

31 So, basically, they're saying, "Trust us, we're professionals." But they don't yet actually have what you might call "hard evidence" to support their findings. Do I have that right?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 24, 2014 06:16 AM (PYAXX)

32 General McInerney several years ago was certain that the Chinese launched a missle from a sub off the coast of California. It was a contrail from an eastbound jet at sunset

Posted by: Alf767 at March 24, 2014 06:17 AM (bQ/du)

33 If they HAVE located some of the wreckage, or are at least sure of    when   and where the plane likely went down,  it's still going to be a very long time before they figure out WTF happened.  I don't have much hope that they're going to find the black boxes; not after this much time.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 24, 2014 06:17 AM (4df7R)

34 What difference, at this point, does it make?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 24, 2014 06:17 AM (GjPnA)

35 of figuring out how and why the hell the plane wound up there. ---------------- I'm going to go out on limb, and say that it flew there. Just spitballing here...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 06:17 AM (aDwsi)

36 I'm going to go out on limb, and say that it flew there. Just spitballing here...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 10:17 AM (aDwsi)

 

Now that's just plain cray-cray.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2014 06:18 AM (DrWcr)

37 I'm going to go out on limb, and say that it flew there. Just spitballing here... Oh! So it still *could* be black holes!

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 24, 2014 06:18 AM (PYAXX)

38 You don't think The Hero Edward Snowden's stolen docs are abetting a totalitarian state in expanding it's reach by force, do you? Gee whiz, never would have seen that coming.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2014 06:18 AM (ZshNr)

39 35 of figuring out how and why the hell the plane wound up there.
----------------

I'm going to go out on limb, and say that it flew there. Just spitballing here...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 10:17 AM (aDwsi)


Will one of the 'ettes please give Mike a couple of smacks? Thanks.

Posted by: joncelli at March 24, 2014 06:18 AM (RD7QR)

40 33 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 24, 2014 10:17 AM (4df7R) Yeah, I always thought it went down in the drink. WHY is the question. Reminds me of Steven Wright's line, "why don't they just make the entire plane out of the stuff they make the black box from?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2014 06:19 AM (olDqf)

41 so this wasn't climate change.....it was altitude change.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at March 24, 2014 06:19 AM (u8GsB)

42 32, I don't go in for conspiracy stuff, but no way that was a jet. I've seen jets and i've seen missiles. Looked more like a missile to me too. Regardless whether it was or not, I don't think its insane to say it was a missile given how it looked. Might be wrong, but not totally off the reservation to say so.

Posted by: Dan at March 24, 2014 06:19 AM (COpZ4)

43 Planted evidence?

It depends upon the debris that is found.  The little yellow life jacket things or seat cushions are generic.  But pieces of 777 specific items would have to conform in all ways to what Boeing turned out - Boeing, FAA, and the airlines are sticklers for keeping track of every piece so if there was a substitution it would propagate throughout the supply chain.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2014 06:19 AM (ec/gS)

44 It's a faaaaaake!!!!



Posted by: Senator Vreenak at March 24, 2014 06:20 AM (GQ8sn)

45 "Oh! So it still *could* be black holes!"

I already checked mine, and nope, not there.

Anybody missing a set of car keys?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 24, 2014 06:20 AM (si68n)

46 MWR, they pulled the black boxes out of the Air France Airbus two years after it went down flying from Brazil to France.  The data was still good, even after two years in the drink and at the bottom of the Atlantic.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2014 06:22 AM (ec/gS)

47 It's a strange sensation to be relieved that a airliner full of passengers plunged into the middle of the ocean. It's a tragedy that the passengers are almost certainly dead, but at least it's not part of some terrorist plot. Posted by: Amichel --------------------------- That's a little like saying that Ft. Hood wasn't a terrorist plot. Or Boston. A Muslim mindset and plan that results in dead people qualifies as 'terrorist plot' for me. Obama will likely call this a 'workplace incident', but BS remains BS. Perhaps I am shooting from the hip.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 06:22 AM (aDwsi)

48 This I know for sure. No one stuffed this 777 down their pants and walked with it out the door. Yuk Yuk

Posted by: 7 Days in May at March 24, 2014 06:23 AM (WYUAi)

49 John Schindler ‏@20committee

US SIGINT went deaf on Russia at the beginning of the last Cold War too. Bad timing. Due to a - wait for it - traitor. Shocking, I know.



John Schindler ‏@20committee

More indications US SIGINT is suddenly deaf on Russia...remind me again how that could have happened.




Oh look.   This is my shocked face.


-_-


See how shocked I am?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 24, 2014 06:23 AM (4df7R)

50 So, the eeeeevil Koch Brothers used their eeeeevil Wether Masheen to disable the plane, then they flew it down through the ocean to their eeeeevil Sooper Sekrit underwater lair. Exactly as I thought.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2014 06:23 AM (7ObY1)

51 MH 370 entered a black hole over the Andemen Islands and, miraculously evading conversion into a molecule sized particle, was ejected at the other end of the hole down in the roaring forties, This is what global warming does people!! Sheesh.

Posted by: Don Lemmon at March 24, 2014 06:24 AM (F58x4)

52 George W. Bush not implicated? Unpossible!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 24, 2014 06:24 AM (0HooB)

53 It's a strange sensation to be relieved that a airliner full of passengers plunged into the middle of the ocean. It's a tragedy that the passengers are almost certainly dead, but at least it's not part of some terrorist plot.

Posted by: Amichel



You can't be sure of that.   For all we know  this was an attempted terrorist attack that    failed,   either due to   technical error or human intervention.     

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 24, 2014 06:25 AM (4df7R)

54 I still blame Global Warming. And the Koch Brothers. Those damn Koch Brothers... inciting Armaggedon since 1990...

Posted by: GuyfromNH at March 24, 2014 06:25 AM (kbOju)

55 Did the plane's engines run on liquified dead babies? Because I'd be o.k. with that.

Posted by: jnorthbynorthwest at March 24, 2014 06:25 AM (yRkPK)

56 Oh! So it still *could* be black holes! Posted by: AllenG -------------- Or the Mothership.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 06:25 AM (aDwsi)

57 That's not debris. It's Langolier vomit.

Posted by: Seamus M. at March 24, 2014 06:25 AM (g4TxM)

58 I hope the Malaysians are just mouth pieces now and the whole operation is under US/Australian auspices.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 06:25 AM (t3UFN)

59 "Finding debris and eventually the location of the crash will only be the start of the process of figuring out how and why the hell the plane wound up there." They wanted to see koalas.

Posted by: NotCoach at March 24, 2014 06:25 AM (rsudF)

60 We could solve this mystery with $25,000 vouchers.

Posted by: Joost at March 24, 2014 06:25 AM (Aif/5)

61 So was it a depressed pilot suicide, or some form of Islamicide?

Posted by: phreshone at March 24, 2014 06:25 AM (kFxpe)

62 52 George W. Bush not implicated? Unpossible! But of course Booooosh is implicated. The plane went down in the "southern corridor," right? Bush was Governor of Texas, which is in the South. #LiberalLogic

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2014 06:26 AM (7ObY1)

63 Did the plane's engines run on liquified dead babies? Because I'd be o.k. with that. Posted by: jnorthbynorthwest ----------------- Dark man..., dark. Humor is where you find it though..., lol

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 06:26 AM (aDwsi)

64 the Malaysian Prime Minister

*bowmp bowmp bowmp*

Relax, don't do it.


/Frankie Goes To Hollywood

Posted by: obligatory [/i] [/b] at March 24, 2014 06:26 AM (5ikDv)

65 Horrible, huh, accident. All the more reason to allow Muslims to study aviation and nuclear science in the US.

Posted by: Barky McFuckstick at March 24, 2014 06:26 AM (FcR7P)

66 58 I hope the Malaysians are just mouth pieces now and the whole operation is under US/Australian auspices.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 10:25 AM (t3UFN)


That would be ideal but the Chinese will want to get involved since a majority of the passengers were Chinese nationals.

Posted by: joncelli at March 24, 2014 06:27 AM (RD7QR)

67 Pakistan.

Posted by: McInerney at March 24, 2014 06:27 AM (ZPrif)

68 I have a life-sized map of the world. It says "one inch equals one inch." Last summer I folded it.

Posted by: Stephen Wright at March 24, 2014 06:28 AM (7ObY1)

69 This I know for sure.


No one stuffed this 777 down their pants and walked with it out the door.
Yuk Yuk

Posted by: 7 Days in May at March 24, 2014 10:23 AM (WYUAi)



Uh. Uh.  Why yes, I am glad to meet you.

Posted by: Sandy Berger at March 24, 2014 06:28 AM (kFxpe)

70 They wanted to see koalas. Posted by: NotCoach ------ Ayers Rock flyover on the pilot's bucket list.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 06:28 AM (aDwsi)

71 I don't go in for conspiracy stuff, but no way that was a jet. I've seen jets and i've seen missiles. Looked more like a missile to me too. Regardless whether it was or not, I don't think its insane to say it was a missile given how it looked. Might be wrong, but not totally off the reservation to say so. Posted by: Dan at March 24, 2014 10:19 AM (COpZ4) I remember that and yeah, that contrail dd not look like a jet. If I remember right, there is a Navy facility in that area, too.

Posted by: Mainah at March 24, 2014 06:28 AM (659DL)

72 John Schindler ‏@20committee If you want "proof" Snowden is collaborating with Russian intel you'll need to file your FOIA with the Kremlin. They're not quick, FYI. John Schindler ‏@20committee We won't have "proof" Ed is collaborating with RIS until a Russian defector comes out, could be a while. Till then, apply common sense.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 24, 2014 06:29 AM (ZPrif)

73 Anyone else think the Koch's might have had something to do with Malaysian Air? I mean, it's a possibility.

Posted by: Hairy Reid at March 24, 2014 06:29 AM (F58x4)

74 No one stuffed this 777 down their pants and walked with it out the door. Posted by: 7 Days ----------------- Say, is that a 777 in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?

Posted by: Mae West at March 24, 2014 06:29 AM (aDwsi)

75 Can't I just eat my pig?

Posted by: Moochelle at a Luau at March 24, 2014 06:30 AM (JQuNB)

76 71 I don't go in for conspiracy stuff, but no way that was a jet. I've seen jets and i've seen missiles. Looked more like a missile to me too. Regardless whether it was or not, I don't think its insane to say it was a missile given how it looked. Might be wrong, but not totally off the reservation to say so. Posted by: Dan at March 24, 2014 10:19 AM (COpZ4) I remember that and yeah, that contrail dd not look like a jet. If I remember right, there is a Navy facility in that area, too. Posted by: Mainah at March 24, 2014 10:28 AM (659DL) It was a jet contrail. Such things have been seen at airports more than once. Good Lord.

Posted by: eman at March 24, 2014 06:30 AM (AO9UG)

77 No one stuffed this 777 down their pants and walked with it out the door. ------------- Well, technically not in my pants.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 24, 2014 06:31 AM (Aif/5)

78 The CMDF shrank the jet and smuggled it out in Raquel Welch's cleavageÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2014 06:31 AM (olDqf)

79 No one stuffed this 777 down their pants and walked with it out the door.

Yuk Yuk

Posted by: 7 Days in May at March 24, 2014 10:23 AM (WYUAi)


Uh. Uh. Why yes, I am glad to meet you.

Posted by: Sandy Berger at March 24, 2014 10:28 AM (kFxpe)

 

I get it first.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 24, 2014 06:31 AM (EDWuJ)

80 I think it's cool how yesterday it's, "Huh, what? No idea what happened." And today it's, "Hey, everyone, we found it an hour ago!!"

Posted by: Seems legit at March 24, 2014 06:31 AM (A98Xu)

81 Say, is that a 777 in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me? Posted by: Mae West at March 24, 2014 10:29 AM (aDwsi) ***** 'Cause all their life they've been told this is 777: **holds fingers up 333 inches apart**

Posted by: Seamus M. at March 24, 2014 06:31 AM (g4TxM)

82 That would be ideal but the Chinese will want to get involved since a majority of the passengers were Chinese nationals. Posted by: joncelli at March 24, 2014 10:27 AM (RD7QR) They can bring lunch. Ya know one from column A and one from column B

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 06:31 AM (t3UFN)

83 The pilot and co-pilot were gay lovers.  They both took out the plane in an insane suicide pact.

That makes about as much sense as anything.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 24, 2014 06:32 AM (Z7PrM)

84 80 I think it's cool how yesterday it's, "Huh, what? No idea what happened."

And today it's, "Hey, everyone, we found it an hour ago!!"

Posted by: Seems legit at March 24, 2014 10:31 AM (A98Xu)


They were probably just keeping everybody at bay while they checked the evidence. Seems to me it's better to be sure than just blather.

Posted by: joncelli at March 24, 2014 06:32 AM (RD7QR)

85 80 I think it's cool how yesterday it's, "Huh, what? No idea what happened." And today it's, "Hey, everyone, we found it an hour ago!!" Posted by: Seems legit at March 24, 2014 10:31 AM (A98Xu) Well, it seems as if it took quite a few days to even start looking in the Indian Ocean that far out in that direction when everyone was fixated towards the northwest and the Bay of Bengal. Let's not get crazy here.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2014 06:33 AM (olDqf)

86 I find it ironic that Malaysian Air is flying the family members down to Australia on special charter flights. Excuse me if I decide to make alternative travel arrangements.

Posted by: Seamus M. at March 24, 2014 06:33 AM (g4TxM)

87 Big deal. Where's Judge Crater?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 24, 2014 06:33 AM (oFCZn)

88 One thing I'm not clear about is, if it was a fire on board (electrical fire), wouldn't the whole plane have burned before it ran out of fuel?  It's hard to believe there was a fire that knocked out the electrical systems, but then the fire burned itself out. I sure hope they find the black box.  Too many unanswered questions.

Posted by: sillyme at March 24, 2014 06:34 AM (zYWPO)

89 **holds fingers up 333 inches apart** ---------------- Okay. Now, would those be CNN inches? Cause if they did a metric conversion, it could be off by a factor of a thousand, or so.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 06:34 AM (aDwsi)

90 Retweeted by National Review John Fund ‏@johnfund Race, Lies and Videotape: Philly DA Accuses Democratic State AG of Ignoring Corruption http://natl.re/1mp9IZz via @NRO The sting operation followed pretty much the same playbook as the federal Abscam investigation of the 1970s. Begun in 2010, the Philly probe was conducted under KaneÂ’s three immediate predecessors as attorney general, and it resulted in more than 400 hours of video and audio recordings. Tyron B. Ali, a lobbyist originally from Trinidad, served as the undercover agent; after he was charged with fraud, he agreed to wear a wire in exchange for lenient treatment. Word of his cash offers eventually got around and prompted some elected officials to call him first. “Sources with knowledge of the sting said the investigation made financial pitches to both Republicans and Democrats, but only Democrats accepted the payments,” the Philadelphia Inquirer reported last week. ... What is clear is just how damning some of the collected evidence is. The Inquirer reported this exchange between Ali, the lobbyist, and state representative Vanessa Brown: Ali went to BrownÂ’s office and handed her an envelope with $2,000, according to people who have reviewed a transcript of a tape Ali made on that day. As Brown accepted the money, they said, she put it in her purse and said: “Yo, good looking and Ooowee. . . . Thank you twice.” After he gave Brown the money, Ali urged her to vote against a bill that would require voters to show identification at the polls, the sources said.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 24, 2014 06:34 AM (ZPrif)

91 The pilot and co-pilot were gay lovers. *** Might explain all the ups and downs in the flight path.

Posted by: Seamus M. at March 24, 2014 06:34 AM (g4TxM)

92 83 The pilot and co-pilot were gay lovers. They both took out the plane in an insane suicide pact. That makes about as much sense as anything. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 24, 2014 10:32 AM (Z7PrM) They found out the instruments had El Al haram Joo cooties on them so they refused to touch them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2014 06:34 AM (olDqf)

93 Yeah, I'm giving this the 365-Day Rule, too. At least the families will have some closure.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 24, 2014 06:34 AM (0HooB)

94 Big deal. Where's Judge Crater? Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 24, 2014 10:33 AM (oFCZn) He's on that island with the guy from the grassy knoll

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 06:34 AM (t3UFN)

95 Some sort of disaster on board the plane, a fire perhaps, could have disabled communications and flight controls, the pilots, whatever, and sent the plane to its doom like a lost albatross.

Posted by: eman at March 24, 2014 06:34 AM (AO9UG)

96 The PM seemed shaken during his speech. That leads me to believe they've found some debris.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 24, 2014 06:35 AM (DmNpO)

97 Would it help if the plane had training wheels?

Posted by: Ashleigh Banfield at March 24, 2014 06:35 AM (oFCZn)

98 Excuse me if I decide to make alternative travel arrangements. Posted by: Seamus --------------- A bit like going back to a surgeon who removed the wrong limb.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 06:35 AM (aDwsi)

99 Here's hoping they get the cockpit voice recorder intact. Unless the pilot/someone fucked with that device, too. I'm not ruling out terrorism yet, whether pilot instigated or otherwise. Posted by: Lincolntf
......
Cockpit voice recorder rolls over every 30 minutes, I believe.  If it was intact, it will likely have 30 minutes of silence ending in the crash.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 24, 2014 06:35 AM (Z7PrM)

100 I remember that and yeah, that contrail dd not look like a jet. If I remember right, there is a Navy facility in that area, too. Posted by: Mainah at March 24, 2014 10:28 AM (659DL) It was a jet contrail. Such things have been seen at airports more than once. Good Lord. Posted by: eman at March 24, 2014 10:30 AM (AO9UG) I said looked like. I'm perfectly fine with it being a jet. And I'm sure we test stuff all the time without doing some public announcement.

Posted by: Mainah at March 24, 2014 06:35 AM (659DL)

101 Malaysia Flight 370.  Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at March 24, 2014 06:36 AM (kFxpe)

102 Egyptian court sentences 529 supporters of former president to death Well just load them all on a Malaysian 777 and.....

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 06:36 AM (t3UFN)

103 OT (Sorry Drew): Beck was talking about Noah which he saw this past weekend. It has giant rock people in it. Rock....People. Maybe they were in the parts that were banned from the Bible. Ace really needs to see this and do a movie review.

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 24, 2014 06:36 AM (LKJt3)

104 Ace really needs to see this and do a movie review. *** I wouldn't wish that on him.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 24, 2014 06:37 AM (DmNpO)

105 103 OT (Sorry Drew): Beck was talking about Noah which he saw this past weekend. It has giant rock people in it. Rock....People. Maybe they were in the parts that were banned from the Bible. Ace really needs to see this and do a movie review. Posted by: ExSnipe at March 24, 2014 10:36 AM (LKJt3) Like that Trek episode with Lincoln and the giant steaming rock turd with claws?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2014 06:37 AM (olDqf)

106 Cockpit voice recorder rolls over every 30 minutes -------- Two hours according to CNN. Still not enough time to know what happened after the alright goodnight.

Posted by: Adam at March 24, 2014 06:37 AM (Aif/5)

107 Isn't that gentleman's proper title Prime Minister of Propecia?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 24, 2014 06:37 AM (HsTG8)

108 103 OT (Sorry Drew): Beck was talking about Noah which he saw this past weekend. It has giant rock people in it. Rock....People. Maybe they were in the parts that were banned from the Bible.

Ace really needs to see this and do a movie review.

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 24, 2014 10:36 AM (LKJt3)


Uh, is that part of the environmental message? We'll all turn to rock unless we have cap and trade?

Posted by: joncelli at March 24, 2014 06:38 AM (RD7QR)

109 It has giant rock people in it. ----------------- * recalls Mad Magazine spoof on 'Rocky'. The characters were Rockhead and Appalling Greed *

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 06:38 AM (aDwsi)

110 107 Isn't that gentleman's proper title Prime Minister of Propecia? Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ at March 24, 2014 10:37 AM (HsTG I thought Alopecia was Trayvon's mother's name.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2014 06:38 AM (olDqf)

111 I don't have much hope that they're going to find the black boxes; not after this much time.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 24, 2014 10:17 AM

I can't recall exactly but didn't it take 2 years to find the black boxes from the Air France flight that crashed in the Atlantic? They found the debris in 5 days but it took unmanned submarine to locate the flight data recorder a few years later.

Posted by: Long Island at March 24, 2014 06:38 AM (7Nabg)

112 OT (Sorry Drew): Beck was talking about Noah which he saw this past weekend. It has giant rock people in it. Rock....People. Maybe they were in the parts that were banned from the Bible.

Ace really needs to see this and do a movie review.

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 24, 2014 10:36 AM (LKJt3)



So it's a sequel to Galaxy Quest?



Hell yeah!  I'm going!



Posted by: EC at March 24, 2014 06:39 AM (GQ8sn)

113 I have a life-sized map of the world. It says "one inch equals one inch." Last summer I folded it.


I call bullshit.

Posted by: Eratosthenes at March 24, 2014 06:39 AM (6tVqX)

114 In the last week there have been incidents on two additional Malaysian flights. The one this weekend was something about a "flight generator" not working. The other was another maintenance issue, about a week ago. One might wonder about their maintenance records.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 24, 2014 06:39 AM (DmNpO)

115 Two hours according to CNN. Still not enough time to know what happened after the alright goodnight. Posted by: Adam at March 24, 2014 10:37 AM (Aif/5) Yeah maybe, but if I am not mistaken, the instrument part of the black boxes records the whole flight

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 06:39 AM (t3UFN)

116 108 103
OT (Sorry Drew): Beck was talking about Noah which he saw this past
weekend. It has giant rock people in it. Rock....People. Maybe they were
in the parts that were banned from the Bible.



****
I think those were s'posed to be the nephilim. Who are mentioned a couple o times.

Posted by: . at March 24, 2014 06:40 AM (vgIRn)

117 How do they know that it was a woman who called the pilot?

Posted by: Pug-delicious! at March 24, 2014 06:40 AM (vFh9Q)

118 In other tragic news, 8   people    in    Washington state   are confirmed dead   after   Saturday's   landslide near Oso, WA.



Eight people are now confirmed dead after a massive landslide slammed into homes near Oso. Search and rescue crews planned to continue searching until nightfall.


Snohomish County Fire District 21 Chief Travis Hots said crews were able to get in on foot.


"We didn't see or hear any signs of life out there today so of course that's very disappointing to all of our emegency responders here on the scene," he said.



Between   this and that    news helicopter crash,   Washington state is having a really, really bad time of it.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 24, 2014 06:40 AM (4df7R)

119 Beck was talking about Noah which he saw this past weekend. It has giant rock people in it. Rock....People. Maybe they were in the parts that were banned from the Bible.


My favorite part was when Noah called the Robot "you bubble-headed booby!"

Posted by: Dr. Smith at March 24, 2014 06:40 AM (6tVqX)

120 I find it ironic that Malaysian Air is flying the family members down to Australia on special charter flights. Excuse me if I decide to make alternative travel arrangements. I'd be keeping feet on terra firma. And the firma the better.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 24, 2014 06:40 AM (h1D+w)

121 But are they sure? I'm still seeing "data says the flight ended here", but "data" has told us a lot over the last two weeks, and data always be changing it's bitch mind, yo.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2014 06:41 AM (ZshNr)

122 I can't recall exactly but didn't it take 2 years to find the black boxes from the Air France flight that crashed in the Atlantic? They found the debris in 5 days but it took unmanned submarine to locate the flight data recorder a few years later. *** Yes. Two years, and they were something like 12k-14k feet down.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 24, 2014 06:41 AM (DmNpO)

123 Giant rock people? Ballast?

Posted by: eman at March 24, 2014 06:41 AM (AO9UG)

124 I wouldn't wish that on him. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 24, 2014 10:37 AM (DmNpO) I thought it was part of his job discription. Seeing god-awful movies so we don't have to.

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 24, 2014 06:42 AM (LKJt3)

125 >>I'd be keeping feet on terra firma. And the firma the better. You were so close to quoting Curley. The more firma the less terra.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2014 06:42 AM (g1DWB)

126 "98 Excuse me if I decide to make alternative travel arrangements. Posted by: Seamus --------------- A bit like going back to a surgeon who removed the wrong limb. Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 10:35 AM (aDwsi)" He can't remove the wrong limb a second time, now can he?

Posted by: NotCoach at March 24, 2014 06:42 AM (rsudF)

127 I have a Progressive Rock concept album about Giant Rock People. "Rockpommel's Land" by Grobschnitt, released in 1977 Those whacky Germans...

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2014 06:42 AM (7ObY1)

128 The End. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along...

Posted by: The Highlander at March 24, 2014 06:42 AM (/vO0r)

129 carrying a significant amount of lithium batteries, which have been responsible for other incidents-

Shilling for the Plumbum Triumvarate again eh?

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 24, 2014 06:43 AM (DL2i+)

130 And people still forget that one of two US Navy seaplanes, a PB5M IIRC, dispatched to find Flight 19 that night also vanished without a trace.

Except for a ship in the search area reporting a fireball in the sky.  So the theory goes that plane exploded in mid-air but this was 1945.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2014 06:43 AM (ec/gS)

131 Ya know the word "G-D" never, NEVER, appears in the Noah movie?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 06:43 AM (t3UFN)

132 He can't remove the wrong limb a second time, now can he? Posted by: NotCoach at March 24, 2014 10:42 AM (rsudF) **** Sure. Of two legs, two arms, three of them are wrong.

Posted by: Seamus M. at March 24, 2014 06:43 AM (g4TxM)

133 Maybe it was a rock lobstah!

Posted by: Mainah at March 24, 2014 06:44 AM (659DL)

134 Cockpit voice recorder rolls over every 30 minutes -------- Two hours according to CNN. Still not enough time to know what happened after the alright goodnight. *** Yes, two hours. The flight data recorder is in a 16-17 hour loop. I wonder if it, too, captures sound from the cockpit.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 24, 2014 06:44 AM (DmNpO)

135 He can't remove the wrong limb a second time, now can he? Posted by: NotCoach at March 24, 2014 10:42 AM (rsudF) See now that there is my kind of thinking

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 06:44 AM (t3UFN)

136 Let's not get crazy here. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2014 10:33 AM (olDqf) No one is getting crazy, the Malaysians have handled this poorly from the start.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 24, 2014 06:44 AM (A98Xu)

137 Like that Trek episode with Lincoln and the giant steaming rock turd with claws? Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2014 10:37 AM (olDqf) Heh!

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 24, 2014 06:44 AM (LKJt3)

138 A bit like going back to a surgeon who removed the wrong limb. *** It's unfair of you not to give him a second chance to do the right thing!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 24, 2014 06:45 AM (DmNpO)

139 Apropos of nothing, work sucks today.  Grrr.  Yay Monday!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2014 06:45 AM (DrWcr)

140 Between this and that news helicopter crash, Washington state is having a really, really bad time of it. Yeah, but the bong's full, so they don't care...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 24, 2014 06:45 AM (naUcP)

141 I heard Malaysia is the actually brains behind obamacare

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 06:45 AM (t3UFN)

142 so it Was, gremlins.

Posted by: willow at March 24, 2014 06:45 AM (nqBYe)

143 EC wins the thread with the In the Pale Moonlight reference.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at March 24, 2014 06:46 AM (9LuAk)

144 I do hope this is the end of the Malaysian Air incident. Watching CNN go back down in flames again will be fun.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 24, 2014 06:46 AM (A98Xu)

145 Well if the debris is from the plane, we now know at least "what"---the thing went into the ocean. May be a long time, and may be never before we know "why", "who" "when" and maybe even exactly "where".

Posted by: Comanche Voter at March 24, 2014 06:46 AM (wdHk6)

146 24 general Mcinerney wasn't making it up. Lignet, a real intelligence group, said they had a source in Boeing that told them the plane was tracked to Pakistan. Mcinenery talked to LIGNET and they told him the same thing. He said it was 60% probability if my memory serves. Posted by: Dan at March 24, 2014 10:14 AM

Not to get into my own conspiracy theories about all this but I wonder if someone in the intelligence business doesn't like McInerney and fed him this information knowing he would run his mouth on the news to discredit him.

Posted by: Long Island at March 24, 2014 06:46 AM (7Nabg)

147 The FDR records the operating parameters of the flight controls, altitude, engines, and a lot of other sensors.  Latest generation FDR can record hundreds of different parameters. 

But its the CVR that covers all sounds in the cockpit including warning tones, pilot chatter, and if someone is knifing the pilot.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2014 06:47 AM (ec/gS)

148 I'm baaaaack!

Posted by: The Grassy Knoll at March 24, 2014 06:47 AM (cL+9V)

149 Ya know the word "G-D" never, NEVER, appears in the Noah movie? Posted by: Nevergiveup ----------------------------- Well..., in fairness, it wasn't spoken then. But, I am assuming that the producer just wouldn't refer to God.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 06:47 AM (aDwsi)

150 I do hope this is the end of the Malaysian Air incident. Watching CNN go back down in flames again will be fun. *** CNN has renewed the missing plane saga for another season. (Stolen from twitter)

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 24, 2014 06:47 AM (DmNpO)

151 So it's a sequel to Galaxy Quest? * golf clap * Well done! Well done, indeed!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 24, 2014 06:48 AM (Jktcu)

152 The FDR records the operating parameters of the flight controls, altitude, engines, and a lot of other sensors. Latest generation FDR can record hundreds of different parameters. But its the CVR that covers all sounds in the cockpit including warning tones, pilot chatter, and if someone is knifing the pilot. *** Darn.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 24, 2014 06:48 AM (DmNpO)

153 I think those were s'posed to be the nephilim. Who are mentioned a couple o times. Posted by: . at March 24, 2014 10:40 AM (vgIRn) Yes they are, but not as giant rocks!

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 24, 2014 06:48 AM (LKJt3)

154

It has giant rock people in it. Rock....People.

 

Evolution, man.  It's science!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2014 06:48 AM (DrWcr)

155 Talk about horrific tragedy, this weekend killed my brackets...

Posted by: Barry O'Douche at March 24, 2014 06:48 AM (FcR7P)

156 1 I still blame global warming Posted by: Bruce at March 24, 2014 10:08 AM (igJW1) Of course, they were heading to a balmy resort town in Antarctica. BTW, it's snowing in Iowa.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 24, 2014 06:49 AM (T0NGe)

157 It's unfair of you not to give him a second chance to do the right thing! Posted by: Niedermeyer's ----------------- Yup. The courts do it all of the time.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 06:49 AM (aDwsi)

158 ...and if someone is knifing the pilot. *** Et tu, Mahmoud?

Posted by: Seamus M. at March 24, 2014 06:49 AM (g4TxM)

159 It's gonna be a long wait till anyone get's their luggage from Flight 370

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 06:49 AM (t3UFN)

160 The Left is upset because the EU is helping Ukraine even though Ukraine hasn't passed laws banning discrimination against gays and trannies. EU is waiving certain regulations that require a country to pass pro-gay anti-discrimination laws to receive assistance. Priorities.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 24, 2014 06:50 AM (ZPrif)

161 BTW, it's snowing in Iowa. Posted by: AmishDude ------------------- 25 deg. last night in w. NC. Snow tonight or tomorrow.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 06:50 AM (aDwsi)

162 Perhaps the rock people were ancient ancestors of Peter.

Posted by: Seamus M. at March 24, 2014 06:50 AM (g4TxM)

163 Describing an optical illusion caused by a jet contrail at sunset as looking like a missile is a lot different than citing it as proof a missile was launched from a chinese submarine as the General stated at the time. The guy filming stopped as the jet flew closer just about the time the optical illusion revealed itself as eastbound airliner laying down a contrail at sunset. Finally, if it was a missle, where did it go? It was a contrail.

Posted by: NASCAR at March 24, 2014 06:50 AM (5UnZF)

164 Nevergiveup, don't think Neptune's domain has a baggage claim department.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2014 06:50 AM (ec/gS)

165 I still believe that Western Intel has known this for over a week. They didn't want to burn their capabilities, so they let the civies figure it out on their own.

Posted by: Czar Peter at March 24, 2014 06:50 AM (SkgyR)

166 121 But are they sure? I'm still seeing "data says the flight ended here", but "data" has told us a lot over the last two weeks, and data always be changing it's bitch mind, yo. Under sufficient torture, data will confess to almost anything.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 24, 2014 06:50 AM (Jktcu)

167 In this day and age, when every child's toy has a chip that contains enough memory to hold the entire Encyclopedia Brittanica, why not, I don't know, record the whole flight on the CVR and download/delete it after the plane lands?

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2014 06:51 AM (ZshNr)

168 28. John Tant, exactly. There is no telling. Timing is everything. So far as being physically non-related to victims/families, what we "give" is our prayers for healing; what we "take" from this miserable event is what we DID experience simply as observers. Being manipulated by stories. Tested like lab rats being stimulated with this, that ... for response. How "best" to sell whatever, whether media, corporate or government propaganda, whichever as they are amalgamated. "At this point, what difference does it make?"

Posted by: The Highlander at March 24, 2014 06:51 AM (/vO0r)

169 I think until they find actual debris many of the passengers' families will not have closure.

Posted by: votermom at March 24, 2014 06:51 AM (GSIDW)

170 The Left is upset because the EU is helping Ukraine even though Ukraine hasn't passed laws banning discrimination against gays and trannies. EU is waiving certain regulations that require a country to pass pro-gay anti-discrimination laws to receive assistance. Priorities. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 24, 2014 10:50 AM (ZPrif) Don't worry obama stepped up to the plate and is sending MREs over.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 06:51 AM (t3UFN)

171 Nevergiveup, don't think Neptune's domain has a baggage claim department. Posted by: Anna --------------------------- It's all stashed in Davy Jone's Locker.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 06:51 AM (aDwsi)

172 163 Perhaps the rock people were ancient ancestors of Peter. Posted by: Seamus M. at March 24, 2014 10:50 AM (g4TxM) Wow. :slow claps:

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at March 24, 2014 06:51 AM (2wd4o)

173

...and if someone is knifing the pilot.

 

 

Is that what they're calling it these days? I'm asking for a friend...

Posted by: Reggie Love at March 24, 2014 06:51 AM (EDWuJ)

174 Don't worry obama stepped up to the plate and is sending MREs over.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 10:51 AM (t3UFN)

 

And fisting kits.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2014 06:51 AM (DrWcr)

175 He can't remove the wrong limb a second time, now can he? Do you want to play double-or-nothing with your three remaining limbs?

Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2014 06:52 AM (FcR7P)

176 Who knew there was a Grassy Knoll somewhere in the middle of the Indian Ocean?

Posted by: Bigby's Miming Hands at March 24, 2014 06:52 AM (3ZtZW)

177 One might wonder about their maintenance records. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 24, 2014 10:39 AM

I saw that too but is the news now just reporting every thing that happens that is slightly out the ordinary on Malaysian airlines.

Posted by: Long Island at March 24, 2014 06:52 AM (7Nabg)

178 Do you want to play double-or-nothing with your three remaining limbs? Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2014 10:52 AM (FcR7P) Wouldn't be the first time I did something like at the craps table

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 06:53 AM (t3UFN)

179 Don't worry obama stepped up to the plate and is sending MREs over. Posted by: Nevergiveup ----------------------------- Yeah, right. Why, we haven't seen such decisive leadership since Harry Truman instituted the Berlin airlift.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 06:53 AM (aDwsi)

180 175 Don't worry obama stepped up to the plate and is sending MREs over. Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 10:51 AM (t3UFN) MRE = Mooch's Royal Eminence?

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2014 06:53 AM (7ObY1)

181 BTW, it's snowing in Iowa.

1) Otherwise known as "normal March weather."
2) No one likes a braggart.
3) There's chocolate-chip cookies with red and yellow M&Ms in the breakroom.

Posted by: HR at March 24, 2014 06:54 AM (ZKzrr)

182 Iam, sadly at a place whereby I don't believe at least half of what my government tells me let alone other governments.  Even if they find the black box, are we going to be told what is actually on it?  That's where I am.

Posted by: Cheri at March 24, 2014 06:54 AM (G+Wff)

183 I saw that too but is the news now just reporting every thing that happens that is slightly out the ordinary on Malaysian airlines. *** That's entirely possible.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 24, 2014 06:54 AM (DmNpO)

184 MRE = Mooch's Royal Eminence?

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2014 10:53 AM (7ObY1)

 

Mooch's Rancid Effluvia

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2014 06:54 AM (DrWcr)

185 Well first you must have access to the plane or wreckage to download the data. 

The CVR in the B777 can be erased while on the ground by someone in the cockpit.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2014 06:55 AM (ec/gS)

186 @113 Are you Eratosthenes from the famed blog -"House of Eratosthenes" ?

Posted by: SnowyBits at March 24, 2014 06:55 AM (v0WsZ)

187 151 In the first unequivocal clarification that lithium batteries were on board, Malaysia Airlines chief executive Ahmad Jauhari Yahya insisted that such goods were safely handled by the carrier.'' http://tinyurl.com/Haz-Mat-On-Plane There's no fucking evidence of the plane itself!!! Sheesh. Next time, forget Malaysia. Fly Peruvia.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2014 06:55 AM (olDqf)

188 BTW, it's snowing in Iowa. *** It's gray and gloomy here. It looks like it's going to rain. BUT, it was glorious weekend here and I can do nothing but praise God for the Blessing.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 24, 2014 06:56 AM (DmNpO)

189 But why do they delete it mid-flight, after 30 minutes or 2 hours or at any other interval? Is it a holdover from tape recording?

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2014 06:57 AM (ZshNr)

190 no possible landing sites and that the flight "ended" in Indian Ocean west of the Australian coast. - In many ways, this is the story of Barack Obama.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 24, 2014 06:57 AM (tUXvn)

191 I don't think we know where the plane is yet.

Posted by: Strange Bedfellow at March 24, 2014 06:58 AM (QCc6B)

192 I think until they find actual debris many of the passengers' families will not have closure. --- Probably true for many. Humans rightly want to find some meaning in death. Even if we can't understand why something happened, knowing how it happened can provide some comfort.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2014 06:59 AM (gmeXX)

193 GENESEO, N.Y. — The next time the American military transport plane known as Whiskey 7 drops its paratroopers over Normandy, France, it will be for a commemoration instead of an invasion. Seventy years after taking part in D-Day, the plane now housed at the National Warplane Museum in western New York is being prepared to recreate its role in the mission, when it dropped troops behind enemy lines under German fire. At the invitation of the French government, the restored Douglas C-47 will fly in for 70th-anniversary festivities and again release paratroopers over the original jump zone at Sainte-Mere-Eglise. “There are very few of these planes still flying, and this plane was very significant on D-Day,” said Erin Vitale, chairwoman of the Return to Normandy Project. “It dropped people that were some of the first into Sainte-Mere-Eglise and liberated that town.” Museum officials say the twin-prop Whiskey 7, so named because of its W-7 squadron marking, is one of several C-47s scheduled to be part of the D-Day anniversary, with jumpers made up of active and retired military personnel. But it is believed to be the only one flying from the United States. The plane will fly to France by way of Labrador, Greenland, Iceland, Scotland and Germany, each leg 5½ to 7 hours. Vitale compared it to trying to drive a 70-year-old car across the country without a breakdown. “It’s going to be a huge challenge.” Among the 21 men it carried in 1944 was 20-year-old Leslie Palmer Cruise Jr., who also will make the return trip to France, his fifth, and be reunited with the craft — once it’s on the ground. He is flying commercially from his Horsham, Pa., home outside Philadelphia. “With me, it’s almost, sometimes, like yesterday,” Cruise, now 89, said by phone, recalling his first combat mission. “It really never leaves you.” Although the C-47 looks much the same today as it did on June 6, 1944, it looked very different when it arrived at the museum as a donation eight years ago. It had been converted to a corporate passenger plane. “We had to take an executive interior out,” said the museum’s president, W. Austin Wadsworth. “It had a dry bar, lounge seats, a table with a nice map of the Bahamas in there. It was beautiful.” The museum’s restoration of the historic plane to its original condition has been a roughly $180,000 project so far. Most of the money went toward two rebuilt engines and the rest to parts, equipment and service. The museum is trying to raise a total of $250,000 for the restoration and return to Normandy. One upgrade it did allow was the installation of two GPS systems to keep the aircraft on course. “The avionics in the airplane are modern. We’re not going to go with what they had in 1943,” Wadsworth said. “They would have had probably a radio beacon receiver and a lot of dead reckoning.” There is still no autopilot, said Wadsworth’s daughter, Naomi, who will be among five pilots — one including her brother, Craig — taking turns at the controls on the way to Europe. That’s fine with her, she said. “It’s history. It’s real flying,” she said. “With a lot of the computerized, mechanized things that you see in the airliners today, the airplane basically flies itself. ... This is not a situation where you can be asleep at the wheel. You really have to pay attention.” Said her father, also a pilot: “You don’t just grab something and push it. There’s a kind of feel to everything you do in these old birds. It doesn’t have a soul obviously, but you don’t just tell it what to do. You ask it.” Cruise still remembers being squashed between other paratroopers seated on pan seats as the plane left England’s Cottesmore Airdrome. He was weighed down with probably 100 pounds of gear, including an M-1 rifle that was carried in three pieces, 30-caliber rifle ammo, a first-aid pack, grenade, K-rations and his New Testament in his left pocket, over his heart. “We could hear the louder roar as each plane following the leader accelerated down the runway and lifted into the air,” he wrote in an account of the mission. “Our turn came and the quivering craft gathered momentum along the path right behind the plane in front.” The airplane’s engines were so loud he had to shout even to talk with the paratrooper next to him, he said, and the scenery through its square windows looked like shadows in the dark. Over the English Channel, a colonel pointed downward. “In the partial darkness below we could make out silhouetted shapes of ships and there must have been thousands of them all sizes and kinds,” Cruise wrote. “If we had any doubts before about the certainty of the invasion, they were dispelled now.”

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 06:59 AM (t3UFN)

194 Let's start a list of where the plane ISN'T - It isn't at my house! Who's next?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 24, 2014 07:00 AM (Jktcu)

195 It would have most likely set down on the water, as if coming in to land, around 150 mph. ...into waves the size of houses.

Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2014 07:00 AM (FcR7P)

196 The plane basically, even after running out of fuel, has enough computational ability and power to maintain level flight. It would have most likely set down on the water, as if coming in to land, around 150 mph. *** In an area with waves consistently in the 10'-30' range. I can only imagine what that would do to a plane.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 24, 2014 07:00 AM (DmNpO)

197 EC wins the thread with the In the Pale Moonlight reference.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at March 24, 2014 10:46 AM (9LuAk)



I was wondering if anyone caught that reference.



I consider it to be one of the top episodes of TV of all time. 

Posted by: EC at March 24, 2014 07:01 AM (GQ8sn)

198 Lincolntf, in 99% of aircraft crashes; all the warning sounds, screaming, and cursing happen in the last few minutes.  So thirty minutes or two hours is plenty of time.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2014 07:02 AM (ec/gS)

199 speaking of Mooch, I see that the Queen has favored we peasants with a photo of herself and the royal offspring at the Great Wall of China. Since no press was allowed on the trip, one can only assume that we are also paying for a private photographer. So nice of Her Thighness to allow we taxpayers a glimpse of the lavish vacation we paid for by hiring a photog on our dime as well. #JustLikeUs

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2014 07:02 AM (7ObY1)

200 CVR needs to be updated. Low rate MP3 recording (96 kbps) would make for 200 hrs. of voice on a 8GB SD card.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:02 AM (aDwsi)

201 197 Let's start a list of where the plane ISN'T - It isn't at my house! Who's next? (rummages around in pants) Nope, not in my pants.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2014 07:03 AM (7ObY1)

202 Thug: "He's dead." Bane: "Then show me the body."

Posted by: Mike in the Hinterlands at March 24, 2014 07:03 AM (DNpio)

203 We KNOW no more now than we did after the first day about MH370. I've seen no proof of anything. My hijacking theory is still operable.

Posted by: Soona at March 24, 2014 07:03 AM (6RUDX)

204 ''Malaysia AirlinesÂ’ missing Boeing 777-200ER had been transporting 200kg of lithium batteries among other freight on its ill-fated service to Beijing. = Importing outsourced mfg. goods. Is labor really cheaper in Malaysia than in China? Too easy, "quality assurance" squat. That "quality service" was/is the Malaysian Airline's motto. Bribes are a dime a dozen where identity is whatever you claim at the moment. Who "sent" those explosive lithium batteries to China? Given the economical political corporate intel significance of the specific Chinese victims? As relates to matters we American citizenry have no real idea beyond suspicions... Because the handling was utterly contemptuous of transparency, destroying and then hiding every piece of evidence making certain all be lost until a convenient moment when the public just want it to be "over" and "suddenly" all is settled. Forgetaboutit. File the incident under: You're Next as likely as not. Importing outsourced mfg. goods.

Posted by: The Highlander at March 24, 2014 07:04 AM (/vO0r)

205 Let's start a list of where the plane ISN'T -

It isn't at my house!

Who's next?


It's not behind this curtain.

Posted by: David Copperfield at March 24, 2014 07:04 AM (6tVqX)

206 Disinformation The real answer could be in that anti-muslim video. That works, too. But What difference does it make?

Posted by: Guynfawkes at March 24, 2014 07:04 AM (qZr+9)

207 Lincolntf, in 99% of aircraft crashes; all the warning sounds, screaming, and cursing happen in the last few minutes. So thirty minutes or two hours is plenty of time. Posted by: Anna -------------- True..., but since 9/11 it is clear that some 'events' might last hours.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:04 AM (aDwsi)

208 How do you solve a problem like Malaysia? How do you hold a moonbeam in your hand?

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2014 07:05 AM (7ObY1)

209 206. Soona, Agreed. We KNOW no more now than we did after the first day about MH370. I've seen no proof of anything.

Posted by: The Highlander at March 24, 2014 07:05 AM (/vO0r)

210 It's not behind this curtain. Posted by: David Copperfield --------------- As I pointed out in the House Cleaning thread the other day, it could be behind our refrigerator.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:06 AM (aDwsi)

211 197 Let's start a list of where the plane ISN'T - It isn't at my house! Who's next? Nuthin' up my sleeve!

Posted by: Bullwinkle at March 24, 2014 07:06 AM (7ObY1)

212 Yeah, seems like an easy enough upgrade, but I'm sure bureaucracy and regulation make it a ten year process to update anything.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2014 07:06 AM (ZshNr)

213 Yes, two hours. The flight data recorder is in a 16-17 hour loop. I wonder if it, too, captures sound from the cockpit. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 24, 2014 10:44 AM (DmNpO) I don't believe it does. It records all electrical functions, altitude, wing level, etc. It would disclose if there was an electrical fire( from , ahem, the load of lithium batteries that at the very least, are problematic). I believe Mr.Malaysian PM knows the government is going to have one big lawsuit on it's hands, not to mention a very unhappy Chinese gov. because it's my guess, that it's security/safety requirements on it's planes are way behind the times. So far we know that the copilot allowed women to "ride along" in the cockpit while flying, that cockpit doors are left open often during flight, two passengers boarded with stolen passports, and the cargo hold of a passenger flight held a load of lithium batteries, well known to be an fire hazard during flight. They have totally bungled the search for the plane every step along the way. Until Boeing confirms that any debris found in the ocean is definitely from 370, I don't believe a word coming out of this doofus' mouth. And I bet the families don't either.

Posted by: Jen at March 24, 2014 07:06 AM (mynOu)

214 Piers Morgan and Jerry Rivers search Hamid Kharzai's SECRET VAULTS!

Posted by: Discovery Channel Programming Note at March 24, 2014 07:06 AM (KQp38)

215 Still could have been a Flight 93 scenario. Who knows?

Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Millennium at March 24, 2014 07:06 AM (hHFOx)

216 With the two Rolls Royce engines hanging under the wings - oh boy.

Unless the pilot knows the tricks of a seaplane pilot, those engines would grab wave tops and do one of two things - rip the engines off and plane pancakes or the engines rip, the plane flips, and comes apart. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2014 07:08 AM (ec/gS)

217 Maybe the plane landed on Osama bin Laden's body and that's why they can't tell us... Hold on, someone's banging at the door. Holy shit, look at all those NSA uniforms. I wonder who they're looking f- (Hey! Leggo of me! Put me down!)

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2014 07:08 AM (7ObY1)

218 It's entirely possible the plane could be in my dryer vent.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 24, 2014 07:08 AM (oFCZn)

219 Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 10:59 AM (t3UFN) Wow. What those pilots and paratroopers did that night, I pray is never forgotten.

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 24, 2014 07:08 AM (LKJt3)

220 SE Pa Moron.

I give you the Gimli Glider.

http://tinyurl.com/byhjh

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 24, 2014 07:08 AM (si68n)

221 Roll on, thou deep and dark blue Ocean -- roll!
Ten thousand fleets sweep over thee in vain;
Man marks the earth with ruin -- his control
Stops with the shore; -- upon the watery plain
the wrecks are all thy deed, nor does remain
a shadow of Man's ravage, save his own,
When for a moment, like a drop of rain,
he sinks into thy depths with bubbling groan,
without a grave, unknell'd, uncoffin'd, and unknown.

Too soon?

Posted by: George Gordon at March 24, 2014 07:08 AM (xq1UY)

222 220- Little known fact: Cape Horn was known as 'Lake Placid' in the 1800's.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:09 AM (aDwsi)

223 Don't worry obama stepped up to the plate and is sending MREs over.

Posted by: Nevergiveup



... Yeah, last week?   When I posited that   NATO   countries might help   Ukraine by sending shipments of "food"?   I didn't ACTUALLY mean "food," Obammy.   I was thinking  more a layer of Cheerios boxes on top of a  metric fuckton   of   guns, guns, guns,   bombs, and more guns.    Hopefully Poland and the other former Eastern Bloc countries are    doing just that.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 24, 2014 07:10 AM (4df7R)

224 Not here.

Let me double-check....

No.  Definitely not in there.

Posted by: Richard Gere at March 24, 2014 07:11 AM (kFxpe)

225

The FDR records the operating parameters of the flight controls, altitude, engines, and a lot of other sensors. Latest generation FDR can record hundreds of different parameters.

 

 

 

 

 

I  saw  FDR  on  TV  announce  the  1929  stock  market  crash.

Posted by: Joe Biden wearing a dunce cap at March 24, 2014 07:11 AM (rXcBX)

226 227 220- Little known fact: Cape Horn was known as 'Lake Placid' in the 1800's. Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 11:09 AM (aDwsi) And the Indian Ocean was called "The Sea of Serenity".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 24, 2014 07:11 AM (Jktcu)

227 Yeah, last week? When I posited that NATO countries might help Ukraine by sending shipments of "food"? I didn't ACTUALLY mean "food," Obammy. I was thinking more a layer of Cheerios boxes on top of a metric fuckton of guns, guns, guns, bombs, and more guns. Hopefully Poland and the other former Eastern Bloc countries are doing just that.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 24, 2014 11:10 AM (4df7R)



Hahaha!   We're catering the takeover of Ukraine.



Posted by: EC at March 24, 2014 07:12 AM (GQ8sn)

228

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 10:59 AM (t3UFN)

 

 

 

 

Ever notice how matter of fact old soldiers discuss moving into the shadow of the valley? Like getting a flat fixed.

Posted by: maddogg at March 24, 2014 07:12 AM (xWW96)

229 I would venture to guess that even where the plane ended up that the last 2 hours on the CVR would be revealing, even if it doesn't capture the initial problem. If there was a cabin foulup, the pilot and co would still be discussing how to fix their screwup, and if there was a hijacking, the hijackers would be yammering on about their shit.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac, Hey Hey UVa at March 24, 2014 07:12 AM (HxSXm)

230

I give you the Gimli Glider.

 

Preposterous!  No self-respecting dwarf would be caught dead in one of those things!

Posted by: Gimli at March 24, 2014 07:13 AM (DrWcr)

231 Heard this morning that the Malaysian gov. finally interviewed the exwife of the copilot?(who can keep this straight anymore) YESTERDAY-15 days after the plane disappeared. Their rationale for waiting? Culturally, they didn't want to seem insensitive to her by asking questions about him. And we are going to believe anything coming out of these idiots? Also heard we are sending a sonar ping hydrophone that is towed behind a ship to listen for the black boxes...and that it will be towed behind a Malaysian ship. How long will it take for them to lose it or run over it?

Posted by: Jen at March 24, 2014 07:14 AM (mynOu)

232 Hahaha! We're catering the takeover of Ukraine.

Posted by: EC at March 24, 2014 11:12 AM (GQ8sn)



Q: Why did the US send MREs to Ukraine?


A:   So the Russkies wouldn't have to invade on empty stomachs.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 24, 2014 07:15 AM (4df7R)

233 My twitter timeline is littered with people, including some we know, smugly stating how this proves there was no terrorism, as well as gleefully mocking people who suspect(ed) it. I gotta say, I don't understand this reaction. First, it's unseemly to use this tragedy for "I told you sos." And, second, I don't see any evidence that precludes a terrorism/hi-jacking plan that went wrong.

Posted by: Y-not at March 24, 2014 07:15 AM (zDsvJ)

234 I've been stuck with this damn topic for weeks now, and sink me, not a solitary soul has mentioned Ernie Gann, Glenn Ford, or spilling the coffee on the center console.
 How times change.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 24, 2014 07:15 AM (xq1UY)

235 How about that deleted data on the pilot's flight simulator? I guess we don't need to recover that anymore,.

Posted by: Nothing to see here move along at March 24, 2014 07:15 AM (FIe2Q)

236 Should have read the actual statement. They're basing all of this on an analysis? This is more ass-covering by the Malaysians.

Posted by: joncelli at March 24, 2014 07:15 AM (RD7QR)

237 As for the debris, if this latest report is correct, they should be able to find it. We've had the capability to map the ocean floor for decades.

Posted by: Y-not at March 24, 2014 07:16 AM (zDsvJ)

238 237 Also heard we are sending a sonar ping hydrophone that is towed behind a ship to listen for the black boxes...and that it will be towed behind a Malaysian ship. How long will it take for them to lose it or run over it? Posted by: Jen at March 24, 2014 11:14 AM (mynOu) That depends; is the Malaysian ship's captain named Queeg?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 24, 2014 07:16 AM (Jktcu)

239 Hey, gang. It looks like one of the plane's engines is on fire. Why don't we drain most of the fuel out of the fuel tanks and use it to stimulate the flaming engine? That ought to allow us to correct the flight trajectory.

Posted by: Flight Engineer Keynes at March 24, 2014 07:17 AM (g4TxM)

240 As for the debris, if this latest report is correct, they should be able to find it. We've had the capability to map the ocean floor for decades. Posted by: Y-not -------------------- Except that, it's a big floor.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:17 AM (aDwsi)

241 This is a national embarrassment to the Maylaysians. They will have to be dragged kicking and screaming to the conclusion.

Posted by: maddogg at March 24, 2014 07:18 AM (xWW96)

242 >>Except that, it's a big floor. Yes, but isn't the gist of this announcement that the plane crashed based solely on them knowing where to look?

Posted by: Y-not at March 24, 2014 07:18 AM (zDsvJ)

243 Hey, gang. It looks like one of the plane's engines is on fire. Why don't we drain most of the fuel out of the fuel tanks and use it to stimulate the flaming engine? That ought to allow us to correct the flight trajectory. Posted by: Flight Engineer Keynes --------------- If it doesn't work, it is because you haven't dumped enough fuel.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:18 AM (aDwsi)

244 >>> Call me crazy, but I don't believe a word these Malaysians say on
anything.

My first though when I heard the news was "not sexy enough of an answer, conspiracy theorists won't buy it." But considering the way Malaysia and other countries have been handling this entire investigation, can you blame them? I don't entirely buy the "okay we're done, nothing to see here" sort of answer they are trying to sell us; call me cynical.

Posted by: LizLem at March 24, 2014 07:19 AM (BF+2f)

245 Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 24, 2014 11:15 AM (xq1UY) Great, great movie. And it has my favorite actress Suzanne Pleshette in it.

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 24, 2014 07:20 AM (LKJt3)

246 The report should be ignored as they are obviously climate deniers. Things are caused by Global Warming or Sarah Palin. While Palin cannot be ruled out ( remember the "bull's eye" directedly over the Indian Ocean) AGW is almost certainly the culprit. Because Koch Brothers.

Posted by: Mooch at March 24, 2014 07:21 AM (611Rk)

247 My twitter timeline is littered with people, including some we know, smugly stating how this proves there was no terrorism, as well as gleefully mocking people who suspect(ed) it. Total conjecture. Just as I did for the last couple of weeks. There are still so many questions that need answers. First and foremost: How did the plan fly that long, radio dark?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 24, 2014 07:21 AM (659DL)

248 Ever notice how matter of fact old soldiers discuss moving into the shadow of the valley?

They're cheating. They know how it turned out.

Stand up. Hook up. Stand in the door.
Geronimo.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 24, 2014 07:21 AM (xq1UY)

249 Yes, but isn't the gist of this announcement that the plane crashed based solely on them knowing where to look? Posted by: Y-not ------------------------- Nope. On floating debris. Recommended read: http://www.amazon.com/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine-Espionage/dp/006097771X The Navy has had a tough time finding stuff, even with a good idea of where it went down. If there are active pings, that is another matter.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:21 AM (aDwsi)

250 There used to be an element of dignity, even upon locating a downed vessel on an ocean floor, letting the dead lie where they fell, as on ancient battlegrounds, buried together with those they fought beside on site. No, I'm not advocating to leave our troops behind, or to deny an American burial Stateside by family and friends. But, for instance, when the Titanic was located, "retrieving" treasures was hardly honoring those who went down with the ship. Death is by mortal accounts a forlorn experience; so of course we want the remains of our loved ones, in order to pay homage to life, to pay our last respects. China deployed a large naval contingency to the Indian Ocean. As did India order, and the US. Given the subterfuge and no accounting for blame, beware what comes from intelligence, disinformation, misunderstandings, suspicions, perhaps even cooperation. Each ship is designed and ordered to decipher the hidden. Military joint exercises.

Posted by: The Highlander at March 24, 2014 07:21 AM (/vO0r)

251 I think, at some point, you've crashed enough planes.

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 24, 2014 07:22 AM (DrWcr)

252 250 >>> Call me crazy, but I don't believe a word these Malaysians say on anything. My first though when I heard the news was "not sexy enough of an answer, conspiracy theorists won't buy it." But considering the way Malaysia and other countries have been handling this entire investigation, can you blame them? --- Between how this was handled and how the Japan nuclear reactor thing was handled, there is reason to have a healthy skepticism about these sorts of "nothing to see here" statements from governments. It'll be good when they find the plane, but I still want to know what happened and why.

Posted by: Y-not at March 24, 2014 07:23 AM (zDsvJ)

253 This is just too easy to solve.  Look, the plane was in the Southern hemisphere.  Therefore, the plane was flying upside down.  Fly upside down long enough  and eventually the fuel will run backward in the fuel tanks.  No fuel to engines  followed by  crash.  Wonder why none of the experts thought of this.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at March 24, 2014 07:23 AM (GgPam)

254 Those  science  guys  claim  the  ocean  is  wet,  I'm  not  so  sure. When  did  the  Indians  get  their  own  ocean?  Casinos  are  one  thing  but  now  they  have  an  ocean?

Posted by: Joe Biden wearing a dunce cap at March 24, 2014 07:23 AM (rXcBX)

255 There used to be an element of dignity, even upon locating a downed vessel on an ocean floor, letting the dead lie where they fell, as on ancient battlegrounds, buried together with those they fought beside on site. *** the man who discovered the Titanic on the ocean floor relied upon that tradition when he decided not to make a claim on the site, trusting that vultures wouldn't pick it apart for profit. Never trust a vulture.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 24, 2014 07:24 AM (DmNpO)

256 I wonder if there are any golf courses in Europe I haven't tried out yet?

Posted by: Barakakan I at March 24, 2014 07:24 AM (Aif/5)

257 There used to be an element of dignity, even upon locating a downed vessel on an ocean floor, letting the dead lie where they fell, --------------------- John John started a trend. His most notable achievment.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:24 AM (aDwsi)

258 Oh, I read further and see you referred to it already. Duh, me.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 24, 2014 07:25 AM (DmNpO)

259 154 I think those were s'posed to be the nephilim. Who are mentioned a couple o times. Posted by: . at March 24, 2014 10:40 AM (vgIRn)

Yes they are, but not as giant rocks! Posted by: ExSnipe at March 24, 2014 10:48 AM (LKJt3)

No one knows what the Nephilim looked like, and I am horribly biased by the L'Engle novel "Many Waters" in picturing them as gorgeous angel ppl. (Which maybe Noah should have done, to draw in the same teens that love barechested sparkly vampires, heh.) So I will let them have their Nephilim rock people.

But the rest of his description of the film, yikes. Noah was not perfect, and had moments where he lived the Moron lifestyle to its fullest, but I'm pretty sure that he was not a homicidal maniac. And pretty sure humans' greatest sin was NOT eating meat. But is hard to criticize a film have not seen (and have no desire to see.)

Posted by: LizLem at March 24, 2014 07:25 AM (BF+2f)

260 * achievement *

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:25 AM (aDwsi)

261 I think, at some point, you've crashed enough planes.

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 24, 2014 11:22 AM (DrWcr)


Speak for yourself, my friend

Posted by: John McCain at March 24, 2014 07:25 AM (kFxpe)

262 260 Those science guys claim the ocean is wet, I'm not so sure. When did the Indians get their own ocean? Casinos are one thing but now they have an ocean?

Posted by: Joe Biden wearing a dunce cap at March 24, 2014 11:23 AM (rXcBX)




*sobs* He   would, too.    He so would.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 24, 2014 07:26 AM (4df7R)

263 Ah, Joe Biden, you're insights are what makes me sure that America is still on the right path.

Posted by: Jen at March 24, 2014 07:26 AM (mynOu)

264 It's not on Fire Island.

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at March 24, 2014 07:26 AM (Aif/5)

265 242 joncelli, I also read that it is based on analysis never done before. So, how reliable is that?

Posted by: Nylon66 at March 24, 2014 07:26 AM (uQG1S)

266 Joe Biden wearing a dunce cap
Reminds me, OT. Chalk up another one for high-speed rail and the Chicago way.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 24, 2014 07:26 AM (xq1UY)

267 I think, at some point, you've crashed enough planes.

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 24, 2014 11:22 AM (DrWcr)
Speak for yourself, my friend

Posted by: John McCain at March 24, 2014 11:25 AM (kFxpe)



Shouldn't laugh but...


LOL!!!!!

Posted by: EC at March 24, 2014 07:27 AM (GQ8sn)

268 Between how this was handled and how the Japan nuclear reactor thing was handled, there is reason to have a healthy skepticism about these sorts of "nothing to see here" statements from governments.

It'll be good when they find the plane, but I still want to know what happened and why.

Posted by: Y-not at March 24, 2014 11:23 AM (zDsvJ)


Agreed. Still get the feeling someone is covering their butts; want to know why. And bring closure for the poor families.

Posted by: LizLem at March 24, 2014 07:27 AM (BF+2f)

269 Wife is about to board her flight to NYC, I'm shifting to happy plane thoughts now.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2014 07:27 AM (ZshNr)

270 Posted by: John McCain at March 24, 2014 11:25 AM (kFxpe) HA! One of the worst pilots ever.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 24, 2014 07:28 AM (A98Xu)

271 Speak for yourself, my friend Posted by: John McCain at March 24, 2014 11:25 AM (kFxpe) We're done here. This cannot be topped.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 24, 2014 07:28 AM (659DL)

272 Lincoln - so..., about this party....

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:28 AM (aDwsi)

273

Between how this was handled and how the Japan
nuclear reactor thing was handled, there is reason to have a healthy
skepticism about these sorts of "nothing to see here" statements from
governments.

-

You want    to really be freaked out, try reading the unemployment     and GDP numbers our government puts out.

 

 

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 24, 2014 07:28 AM (eoeps)

274 Now I get it, the security team was outsourced to Malaysia

Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at March 24, 2014 07:28 AM (kFxpe)

275 275 Wife is about to board her flight to NYC, I'm shifting to happy plane thoughts now.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2014 11:27 AM (ZshNr)


Eh. Guess this isn't a conversation you want to be having right now. Godspeed to the wife.

Posted by: joncelli at March 24, 2014 07:29 AM (RD7QR)

276 Like that Trek episode with Lincoln and the giant steaming rock turd with claws?
HOW U DOIN, BIG BOY?

Posted by: the horta at March 24, 2014 07:29 AM (hn5v5)

277 What many people don't know is that there is a plug-in for the Global weather trend software that allows for predictive flight paths on missing aircraft.

Pretty accurate so far.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 24, 2014 07:30 AM (si68n)

278 A    government is merely a collection of people, and if my experience is any guide, a government is made    up of people    of     slightly below average intelligence.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 24, 2014 07:30 AM (eoeps)

279 OT Unbelievably horrible news from the Telegraph - some UK hospitals were burning aborted babies for fuel. Link on drudge.

Posted by: votermom at March 24, 2014 07:30 AM (GSIDW)

280 Wife is about to board her flight to NYC, I'm shifting to happy plane thoughts now. Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2014 11:27 AM (ZshNr) What is she doing there? We're suppose to have bad weather tomorrow into Wednesday. Hope she does not get stuck in that G-D forsaken city

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 07:30 AM (t3UFN)

281 A government is merely a collection of people, and if my experience is any guide, a government is made up of people of slightly below average intelligence.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 24, 2014 11:30 AM (eoeps)



Those who can, do.


Those who can't, teach.


Those who can't teach, govern.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 24, 2014 07:31 AM (4df7R)

282 What does the Obama family play on family game night? http://tinyurl.com/kwmjpv7

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 24, 2014 07:31 AM (tUXvn)

283 OT Unbelievably horrible news from the Telegraph - some UK hospitals were burning aborted babies for fuel. Posted by: votermom ------------- Calm down. Jwest has explained that it is just 'medical waste'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:31 AM (aDwsi)

284 She's doing research, a presentation of some sort, and then attending a conference, I think it's the Renaissance Society of America. I can't keep track.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2014 07:31 AM (ZshNr)

285 The plane is safe and sound on Whore Island.

Posted by: Sterling Archer at March 24, 2014 07:32 AM (DrWcr)

286 Sorry, didn't notice that was already on the dump. Still in shock over it.

Posted by: votermom at March 24, 2014 07:32 AM (GSIDW)

287 She's there for six days, and the weather sure does look crappy.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2014 07:32 AM (ZshNr)

288 288 What does the Obama family play on family game night?

http://tinyurl.com/kwmjpv7

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 24, 2014 11:31 AM (tUXvn)


Twister. They play with Val Jarrett, which is why the girls will need extensive therapy for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: joncelli at March 24, 2014 07:32 AM (RD7QR)

289

289 OT Unbelievably horrible news from the Telegraph - some UK hospitals were burning aborted babies for fuel.

Posted by: votermom
-------------

 

 

 

 

Even the Nazis didn't consider doing it for that reason.

Posted by: Roy at March 24, 2014 07:32 AM (VndSC)

290 Between how this was handled and how the Japan nuclear reactor thing was handled, there is reason to have a healthy skepticism about these sorts of "nothing to see here" statements from governments. "Nothing to see here" statements, coupled with incidents that do not meet known properties, are what fuel conspiracy theories. Jumbo jets USUALLY don't turn off their transponders. They don't usually go to 45,000 ft for no known reason, etc.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 24, 2014 07:32 AM (h1D+w)

291 Malaysia is probably right, but I also think they just wanted to end the bad press coming their way for this mess. Nice of them to send a snappy little text to the families, who must be insane with grief and worry by now. I hope that TFG will send over some MREs to comfort them.

I still don't understand why not one passenger managed to call a loved one. Did cells not work over the ocean or what?

Posted by: PJ at March 24, 2014 07:32 AM (ZWaLo)

292 I think it's the Renaissance Society of America. -------------- Whoa! Cool. Do they serve smoked turkey legs?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:32 AM (aDwsi)

293 I find it ironic that Malaysian Air is flying the family members down to Australia on special charter flights. Excuse me if I decide to make alternative travel arrangements.
Take the train! Choo-choo! Chug-chug-chug-chug! Choooo-choo!

Posted by: joey biden at March 24, 2014 07:32 AM (hn5v5)

294 That "Chinese missile launch" absolutely was a jet contrail. There is an excellent website that explains what was seen in great detail, but I'm at work so I don't have the link. Also, real missile contrails get twisted into squiggle pretzel shapes very quickly because they're traveling through different layers of the atmosphere with different wind speeds and directions. Airplane contrails are straight and smooth because the plane is at a more or less constant altitude.

Posted by: rickl at March 24, 2014 07:32 AM (zoehZ)

295 Those who can, do.
Those who can't, teach.
Those who can't teach, govern.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party

 

 

 

 

 

And  those  who  can  shit  their  pants  with  a  smile  end  up  being  vice-president. 

Posted by: Joe Biden wearing a dunce cap at March 24, 2014 07:32 AM (rXcBX)

296
What is she doing there? We're suppose to have bad weather tomorrow into Wednesday. Hope she does not get stuck in that G-D forsaken city

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 11:30 AM (t3UFN)


It's sad that I'm so happy my region is only supposed to get a dusting to 2".  


NOTE TO MARCH:  When you "come in like a lion," you're SUPPOSED    to   "go out like a lamb."   You're not allowed to do the   lion thing twice!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 24, 2014 07:33 AM (4df7R)

297 I still don't understand why not one passenger managed to call a loved one. Did cells not work over the ocean or what? Posted by: PJ ------------- No cell towers at sea.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:33 AM (aDwsi)

298 So I will let them have their Nephilim rock people. Posted by: LizLem at March 24, 2014 11:25 AM (BF+2f) OMG! The Nephilim, according to the Bible, had sex with women. So you are saying you're okay with giant rock people having sex with women!? That is so preverted!

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 24, 2014 07:33 AM (LKJt3)

299 285 OT Unbelievably horrible news from the Telegraph - some UK hospitals were burning aborted babies for fuel. - One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind toward Soylent Green.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 24, 2014 07:33 AM (tUXvn)

300

Unbelievably horrible news from the Telegraph - some UK hospitals were burning aborted babies for fuel.

I'm back!

Posted by: Moloch at March 24, 2014 07:33 AM (DrWcr)

301 That's pretty much what I said. Asked if she was gong to be a serving wench "again this year"?

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2014 07:33 AM (ZshNr)

302

. So you are saying you're okay with giant rock people having sex with women!?

 

I'm intrigued...

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 24, 2014 07:34 AM (EDWuJ)

303 OMG! The Nephilim, according to the Bible, had sex with women. So you are saying you're okay with giant rock people having sex with women!? That is so preverted!

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 24, 2014 11:33 AM (LKJt3)




"I don't see the problem here."


-Japanese otaku

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 24, 2014 07:35 AM (4df7R)

304 So, a phalanx of phallic rock people?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:35 AM (aDwsi)

305 @196 Envy. Sheer, dripping envy.
I got to fly a C-47, briefly, once.
If somebody told me I was going to have to fly through Hell, it would be my first choice.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 24, 2014 07:35 AM (xq1UY)

306 >>>
275 Wife is about to board her flight to NYC, I'm shifting to happy plane thoughts now.

Happy plane thoughts! I had a family member put me through that scare last week, they were flying home. Luckily they didn't pay attention to the news during their trip, so weren't anxious over plane stuff.

I'm sure she will be fine, and will have a great trip. Mmmmm NYC cheesecake...

Posted by: LizLem at March 24, 2014 07:35 AM (BF+2f)

307 I hope they're right, but I can't help being skeptical.

Posted by: Travis McGee at March 24, 2014 07:35 AM (Ph479)

308 I'm so hard right now...

Posted by: Nephilim at March 24, 2014 07:36 AM (DrWcr)

309 Thanks for the well wishes, I'm sure she'll be fine, just got to get my worries out there to vanquish them.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2014 07:36 AM (ZshNr)

310 I thought one of the morons who works in telecom industry said that at high altitude, the cell phones don't need towers.

Posted by: Y-not at March 24, 2014 07:37 AM (zDsvJ)

311 If somebody told me I was going to have to fly through Hell, it would be my first choice. 1. A-10 2. A-46 3. P-47

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 24, 2014 07:37 AM (659DL)

312 The pilot and co-pilotPresident and Reggie were gay lovers. They both took out the planecountry in an insane suicide pact.

In many ways, this is the story of Obama.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 24, 2014 07:38 AM (B/VB5)

313 I thought one of the morons who works in telecom industry said that at high altitude, the cell phones don't need towers. That would not be my understanding.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 24, 2014 07:38 AM (659DL)

314 Jimmy Carter Blames Oppression of Women Around World On Islam Catholic And Southern Baptist ChurchesÂ… Weasel Zippers: Why couldn't carter be on that 777? Is there no G-D in heaven?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 07:38 AM (t3UFN)

315

It depends upon the debris that is found. The little yellow life jacket things or seat cushions are generic. But pieces of 777 specific items would have to conform in all ways to what Boeing turned out - Boeing, FAA, and the airlines are sticklers for keeping track of every piece so if there was a substitution it would propagate throughout the supply chain.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2014 10:19 AM (ec/gS)

 

actually the life vests are traced by serial number since they have periodic resting. one with a S/N on it should verify which aircraft it came from, MH370 or not....

Posted by: ProudinNC at March 24, 2014 07:38 AM (MexWP)

316 I thought one of the morons who works in telecom industry said that at high altitude, the cell phones don't need towers.

Not sure if joke ...

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 24, 2014 07:39 AM (fOLwM)

317 That "Chinese missile launch" absolutely was a jet contrail. Posted by: rickl at March 24, 2014 11:32 AM (zoehZ) Rye res it ruz. Heh.

Posted by: A Chinese SSBN at March 24, 2014 07:40 AM (LKJt3)

318 321... retesting that was.... damn keyboard

Posted by: ProudinNC at March 24, 2014 07:40 AM (MexWP)

319 I still don't understand why not one passenger managed to call a loved one. Did cells not work over the ocean or what? Posted by: PJ ------------- No cell towers at sea. There are places here in Texas, where you go 8 miles off of an interstate & you have no signal. Try going 800 miles out over water.......

Posted by: rickb223 at March 24, 2014 07:40 AM (h1D+w)

320 Jimmy Carter Blames Oppression of Women Around World On Islam Catholic And Southern Baptist ChurchesÂ… .333 is great...in baseball.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 24, 2014 07:40 AM (659DL)

321 Unbelievably horrible news from the Telegraph - some UK hospitals were burning aborted babies for fuel.


The thing that I found most distressing about this story wasn't just that these aborted babies were being burned to help heat these hospitals, but that they were being burned    as   "clinical waste"     along with "other rubbish."  


Let that sink in.


The Telegraph itself    refers   to the remains of these dead babies as "rubbish,"   as if they were    a used hypodermic needle,    or    a piece of   paper towel,   or   someone's    gangrenous arm.     They were treated as WASTE, not as small lives unfulfilled.   They weren't cremated; they were incinerated   as  part of an energy creating endeavor,   like  a dead body in the g-ddamn    Matrix.


Revulsion doesn't begin to describe it.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 24, 2014 07:41 AM (4df7R)

322 I thought one of the morons who works in telecom industry said that at high altitude, the cell phones don't need towers. Posted by: Y-not ----------------- If they did, then they should not be working in the telecom industry.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:41 AM (aDwsi)

323 322 I thought one of the morons who works in telecom industry said that at high altitude, the cell phones don't need towers. >>Not sure if joke ... ---- It didn't read like one at the time, but I doubt I can find the thread and comment.

Posted by: Y-not at March 24, 2014 07:41 AM (zDsvJ)

324 Yep, cell phones work better the higher you go. Best reception is in space. True fact.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 24, 2014 07:41 AM (ZPrif)

325 Water can't tear steal!!!

Posted by: rosie o'donut at March 24, 2014 07:41 AM (hn5v5)

326 Calm down. Jwest has explained that it is just 'medical waste'. --- *mentally calculates how many BTUs can be generated from jwest medical waste*

Posted by: votermom at March 24, 2014 07:42 AM (GSIDW)

327 OMG! The Nephilim, according to the Bible, had sex with women. So you are saying you're okay with giant rock people having sex with women!? That is so preverted! Posted by: ExSnipe at March 24, 2014 11:33 AM (LKJt3)

Wait, so are you saying you're not? What a H8er!

And yes they had sex with wimmens in Many Waters too. It sounds like in Noah they are more like Ents, than someone you want to schtupp. And yes I am picturing the rock giant from galaxy Quest until pics from the film prove me wrong.


Posted by: LizLem at March 24, 2014 07:42 AM (BF+2f)

328 Try going 800 miles out over water....... Posted by: rickb223 ------------------ ... enclosed in an aluminum tube, and surrounded by other RF-absorbing stuff.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:42 AM (aDwsi)

329 Posted by: votermom at March 24, 2014 11:42 AM (GSIDW) If we could package the bullshit and burn it, we could power the Vegas strip for a decade.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 24, 2014 07:43 AM (659DL)

330 Jimmy Carter Blames Oppression of Women Around World On Islam Catholic And Southern Baptist ChurchesÂ…



Weasel Zippers:

Why couldn't carter be on that 777? Is there no G-D in heaven?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 11:38 AM (t3UFN)



Heaven doesn't want him, and hell is afraid he'll stink up the place.


Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 24, 2014 07:43 AM (FMbng)

331 332 Calm down. Jwest has explained that it is just 'medical waste'. --- *mentally calculates how many BTUs can be generated from jwest medical waste* Posted by: votermom at March 24, 2014 11:42 AM (GSIDW) I would wonder what jwest would think of his loved ones being disposed of in such a manner...but, well, I think we already know.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 24, 2014 07:44 AM (da5Wo)

332 We called up Keyes Chevrolet in Los Angeles and were quoted a broad price range of between $3,400 and $34,000 to replace a "drive motor replacement battery" in a 2012 Volt. Tellingly, perhaps, the dealer we spoke with was not sure what replacing a 'drive motor replacement battery' (and the 'Grade B' version, at that) entails, and told us we'd have to bring a Volt in to see what's wrong with the pack to get a real estimate. We got the same confusion and numbers to replace the battery from Berger Chevrolet in Grand Rapids, Michigan. We asked GM to clarify what this $34,000 charge includes, but that information was not forthcoming.

Posted by: Arlen Specter at March 24, 2014 07:44 AM (e8kgV)

333 Heaven doesn't want him, and hell is afraid he'll stink up the place.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 24, 2014 11:43 AM (FMbng)



Both Kim Jong Il and   Arafat have told Satan that he doesn't want   Jimmeh hanging around, because he's    so fucking IRRITATING.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 24, 2014 07:44 AM (4df7R)

334 So, a phalanx of phallic rock people?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 11:35 AM (aDwsi)


-----


.... philandering phalanx of phallic rock people.....

Posted by: fixerupper at March 24, 2014 07:44 AM (nELVU)

335 Where's mook to say that burning dead babies is the future and all the icky socons need to just get over it or be purged from the GOP?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 24, 2014 07:45 AM (ZPrif)

336 Heaven doesn't want him, and hell is afraid he'll stink up the place.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 24, 2014 11:43 AM (FMbng)


Maybe isn't wasn't the tourists after all.

Posted by: Hairy Reid at March 24, 2014 07:45 AM (GgPam)

337 Is it just me or am I wrong here. Drawing a conclusion on the data that the Brits provided now seems kinda strange. Seems to me that they could have used that exact same data to provide a conclusion the day after the incident. Maybe China was finding the blow back from the peasants a smidge irritating and decided to wrap it up and call it a day. The Brits being such avid admirers of communists would have no problem helping out. The Malaysians, heh, anything to end it would do.

Posted by: Drider at March 24, 2014 07:45 AM (/VmYa)

338 Jimmy Carter Blames Oppression of Women Around World On IslamCatholic And Southern Baptist ChurchesÂ…


Weasel Zippers:

Why couldn't carter be on that 777? Is there no G-D in heaven?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 11:38 AM (t3UFN)




How did Jimmah let that one in slip in there? Doesn't he know it's ONLY those evil Christians who oppress womyns?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 24, 2014 07:46 AM (1Jaio)

339 Sounds like they're close to picking up the objects: The objects were seen today (March 24) at around 2:45 p.m. local time in Australia (11:45 p.m. EDT on Sunday). A Royal Australian Navy ship, the HMAS Success, was on the scene today, attempting to locate the objects, http://www.livescience.com/44310-flight-370-search-objects-found.html?cmpid=514645

Posted by: Y-not at March 24, 2014 07:46 AM (zDsvJ)

340 We asked GM to clarify what this $34,000 charge includes, but that information was not forthcoming.

Posted by: Arlen Specter at March 24, 2014 11:44 AM (e8kgV)



I suspect the $34,000 charge includes   a    replacement car.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 24, 2014 07:46 AM (4df7R)

341 philandering phalanx of phallic rock people
We call them "the Three Sisters".

Posted by: Parks employee in South Park, CO at March 24, 2014 07:46 AM (hn5v5)

342 332 Calm down. Jwest has explained that it is just 'medical waste'. --- *mentally calculates how many BTUs can be generated from jwest medical waste* Posted by: votermom at March 24, 2014 11:42 AM (GSIDW) No, jwest explained very slowly and carefully why the headline was bullshit. My wife is a florist. I would like nothing better than to have a new federal law declaring all aborted and miscarried babies be treated the same as any dead human and have funerals with loads of flowers.

Posted by: jwest at March 24, 2014 07:46 AM (u2a4R)

343 philandering phalanx of phallic rock people..... Posted by: fixerupper --------------- Ooooooh..., I am so turned on right now.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 24, 2014 07:47 AM (aDwsi)

344 So, a phalanx of phallic rock people?


Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 11:35 AM (aDwsi)



-----


.... philandering phalanx of phallic rock people.....


Posted by: fixerupper at March 24, 2014 11:44 AM (nELVU)




Phee    phy   pho   phum....

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 24, 2014 07:47 AM (4df7R)

345 254. "Ever notice how matter of fact old soldiers discuss moving into the shadow of the valley?" They're cheating. They know how it turned out. Stand up. Hook up. Stand in the door. Geronimo. Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 24, 2014 11:21 AM (xq1UY) There's more than one way to skin a cat. My great-grandmother did not "stand in the door" when the Apache raiding parties came to visit while the men were gathered to give chase and fight, leaving homesteads. Rather, by cover of night, escaping with her babies to hide in the dry washes with the rattlesnakes, this family survived to live and bear another generation.... A century prior, early colonial militias "turned" Minute Men and subsequently into the American Continental Army knew well how to fight from behind natural cover. Always have plan B. True enough, to defeat the British Empire's Military (including their Navy), it wasn't enough to conduct guerrilla warfare indigenous style. Alliances were made; investments from the Dutch whom the British had thieved, and alliance with the French whose Naval appearance forced the British surrender. Furthermore, without the experience of Prussian officers who joined Washington's Great Cause for revolution to establish American Liberty, Washington was stretched too far to accomplish Divine Providence as America's Leader. Feb.13, 1778 Friedrich Wilhelm Rudolf Gerhard August, Freiherr von Steuben, a Prussian military officer, arrived at General George Washington's encampment at Valley Forge. Baron von Steuben served as General George Washington's chief of staff in the final years of the war. Given Chief of Staff Steuben, Washington could devote himself to strategy and leadership; while Steuben drilled the men in camp, training them to become the effective, disciplined and well trained unified fighting forces that won the day for American Victorious Independence.

Posted by: The Highlander at March 24, 2014 07:47 AM (/vO0r)

346 One of the Morons went all science and shit the other day.
Posted an article showing vertical propagation from cell towers and everything.

Bottom line of the article.

Much range in horizontal plane.
Little range in the vertical plane.


From what I gathered, at 30.000 feet (Aprox six miles) , directly above a tower, you might not even get a signal.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 24, 2014 07:48 AM (si68n)

347 Hello! Parla usted Inglese? Everytime a plane is lost in the Indian Ocean do I have to compensate you for it? Come on man, we're not trying to scam anybody here. Allah Akbar Dude!

Posted by: IrishEd at March 24, 2014 07:48 AM (D0NZx)

348 We asked GM to clarify what this $34,000 charge includes, but that information was not forthcoming.

-----

It includes three things.

1.
2.
3.  PROFIT!!

Posted by: fixerupper at March 24, 2014 07:48 AM (nELVU)

349 My wife is a florist. I would like nothing better than to have a new federal law declaring all aborted and miscarried babies be treated the same as any dead human and have funerals with loads of flowers. Posted by: jwest at March 24, 2014 11:46 AM (u2a4R) You are one sick fuck.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 24, 2014 07:48 AM (bCEmE)

350 “We deeply regret that we have to assume beyond any reasonable doubt that MH370 has been lost and that none of those on board have survived,” the airline said in the text message. What an oddly worded statement.... Assume?

Posted by: phil at March 24, 2014 07:49 AM (QzdcC)

351 Some pople just need a Buford Pusser clubbin'.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 24, 2014 07:49 AM (659DL)

352 From what I gathered, at 30.000 feet (Aprox six miles) , directly above a tower, you might not even get a signal. --- Thanks.

Posted by: Y-not at March 24, 2014 07:49 AM (zDsvJ)

353 The thing that I found most distressing about this story wasn't just that these aborted babies were being burned to help heat these hospitals, but that they were being burned as "clinical waste" along with "other rubbish." -- This.

Posted by: votermom at March 24, 2014 07:50 AM (GSIDW)

354 Hey, dummies, when a government tells you something shut up and believe it!

Posted by: Eric Holder at March 24, 2014 07:50 AM (A98Xu)

355

I would like nothing better than to have a new federal law declaring all aborted and miscarried babies be treated the same as any dead human and have funerals with loads of flowers.

 

Posted by: jwest at March 24, 2014 11:46 AM (u2a4R)

 

And who pays for that, you twisted, depraved being?  Don't you guys claim that babies are aborted because the mother can't afford to have a kid?  If she can't afford a baby, how is she affording loads of flowers?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 24, 2014 07:50 AM (fwARV)

356 One of the Morons went all science and shit the other day. Posted an article showing vertical propagation from cell towers and everything. ------------- (ahem)

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:50 AM (aDwsi)

357 Both Kim Jong Il and Arafat have told Satan that he doesn't want Jimmeh hanging around, because he's so fucking IRRITATING. Why do you think they call it hell? LOL

Posted by: rickb223 at March 24, 2014 07:50 AM (h1D+w)

358 One of the Morons went all science and shit the other day.


"Only one Moron?    Sorry,   only one Moron cannot     form a     consensus, therefore   what they     did was not science and is discounted.     "


- AGW Cultists

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 24, 2014 07:50 AM (4df7R)

359 Nood.

Posted by: Y-not at March 24, 2014 07:50 AM (zDsvJ)

360 Noob

Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 24, 2014 07:51 AM (jsWA8)

361

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 24, 2014 11:41 AM (4df7R)


Is horrific. I'm also skeeved out there is an actual group called the "Human Tissue Authority." From the title alone you can tell they are chock full of oodles of compassion, and completely bipartisan.

Posted by: LizLem at March 24, 2014 07:51 AM (BF+2f)

362 Posted by: jwest at March 24, 2014 11:46 AM (u2a4R) Was that a sock?

Posted by: seems legit at March 24, 2014 07:51 AM (A98Xu)

363 Hey, dummies, when a government tells you something shut up and believe it! Posted by: Eric Holder -------------------- ... or expect a 'visit' from an agency.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 07:51 AM (aDwsi)

364 Enough about a plane. What about POTUS' bracket???

Posted by: Jay Carney at March 24, 2014 07:51 AM (R5UOB)

365 "Only one Moron? Sorry, only one Moron cannot form a consensus, therefore what they did was not science and is discounted. " - AGW Cultists Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 24, 2014 11:50 AM (4df7R) *Cult punt*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 24, 2014 07:51 AM (da5Wo)

366 I would like nothing better than to have a new federal law declaring all aborted and miscarried babies be treated the same as any dead human and have funerals with loads of flowers.

Posted by: jwest at March 24, 2014 11:46 AM (u2a4R)



I would pray for God to     have mercy on your soul, but I'm not convinced you have one, jwest.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 24, 2014 07:52 AM (4df7R)

367 "I would like nothing better than to have a new federal law" So much for small government conservatism.

Posted by: Y-not at March 24, 2014 07:52 AM (zDsvJ)

368 And who pays for that, you twisted, depraved being? Don't you guys claim that babies are aborted because the mother can't afford to have a kid? If she can't afford a baby, how is she affording loads of flowers? Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 24, 2014 11:50 AM (fwARV) We need a new government program to pay for flowers, of course.

Posted by: jwest at March 24, 2014 07:53 AM (u2a4R)

369 You frequently lose your connection on a cell phone when you get on an elevator and it starts moving (at a few inches per second); whereas on a plane you are moved at a few feet per second.
 
Without a satellite link, no dice on the phones working.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 24, 2014 07:53 AM (cHZB7)

370

We need a new government program to pay for flowers, of course.

 

Posted by: jwest at March 24, 2014 11:53 AM (u2a4R)

 

So... pro-abortion and pro-big-government-redistribution.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 24, 2014 07:54 AM (fwARV)

371 Jeremiah Chapter 1, Verse 5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations." Doesn't sound like G-d was intent on making fuel for heat or medical waste to me.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 24, 2014 07:54 AM (32Ze2)

372 "(ahem)"

Ye...him!!!

That's the guy who put us some fuckin' knowledge.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 24, 2014 07:54 AM (si68n)

373 We asked GM to clarify what this $34,000 charge includes, but that information was not forthcoming. 


The $34k includes $29,000 for a new Prius, and $5,000 for hazardous waste disposal of the Volt

Posted by: phreshone at March 24, 2014 07:55 AM (kFxpe)

374 From what I gathered, at 30.000 feet (Aprox six miles) , directly above a tower, in my frickin living room, one block from a tower, you might not even get a signal.

Fixed that, to conform with real-life experience. When I say you never see five bars west of the Mississippi, that's not a hit on the Mormons.

I have handed people precious artifacts from my paper map collection, so that they will not rely exclusively on cell-phone GPS to keep them alive on a trip. We are absolutely lunatic on this:  kids get a cellphone when they're in school, take it to college, spend 99% of their life inside the wi-fi, and they think they can war-drive the Gunnison mesas. The evidence is clear. Cell phones, lots of fun, many apps and games. You are the biggest fool in the world to trust your life to one in any way. 

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 24, 2014 07:57 AM (xq1UY)

375 Yea there's the possibility with the batteries on board. It still just seems to easy of an explanation. I still think it was one of the pilots. Mainly because of how quickly the transponders stopped transmitting right after they signed off for their ARTC handoff. If it were a fire you would think there would have been enough time for comms, a distress call etc. The turning of the plane towards the ocean if they were in distress makes zero sense either. If it were sudden and catastrophic I understand. But from what we know it wasn't. This plane stopped comm took a turn towards the ocean and flew for hours. So my gut still says pilot. The wreckage and black box if they find it will tell us allot.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 24, 2014 07:58 AM (igKtt)

376 We asked GM to clarify what this $34,000 charge includes Hey, someone is driving up the cost of our dead-baby batteries. Probably the Koch Brothers.

Posted by: GM at March 24, 2014 08:00 AM (FcR7P)

377 That's it!!!

GM was flying replacement Chevy Volt batteries on the plane.


Those bastards.

Posted by: Chimpy McBushitler at March 24, 2014 08:00 AM (si68n)

378 Why am I struggling to remember changing socks today?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 24, 2014 08:01 AM (si68n)

379 CVR will be full of ranting about getting to Antarctica to save the polar bears

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2014 08:05 AM (Aqvh6)

380 Well, at this point, I totally trust all governments/not. Have to say I trust Gen. Mc's theory more.

Head fake. It is ovah!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 24, 2014 08:06 AM (baL2B)

381 Friedrich Wilhelm Rudolf Gerhard August, Freiherr von Steuben, a Prussian military officer, arrived at General George Washington's encampment at Valley Forge.

Fucking Blackwater contractors ...

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2014 08:08 AM (Aqvh6)

382 The thing that I found most distressing about this story wasn't just that these aborted babies were being burned to help heat these hospitals, but that they were being burned as "clinical waste" along with "other rubbish." -- This. Posted by: votermom at March 24, 2014 11:50 AM (GSIDW) I can believe that the hospital is incinerating aborted babies in their boiler, but as far as "helping heat" the hospital, I call BS. There is so much water in human tissue, that the heating value of a freshly-dead human body is about nil. It probably cost's them extra fuel in the long run. Note that crematoriums at funeral homes use a LOT of gas. And, yes, you do really need to have some sort of medical waste incinerator service. A lot of that stuff is an infection hazard, too. Basically, I can see no "good" way to dispose of aborted babies. Best answer is to do fewer abortions, right? And for those that medically "must be" done, give the parents the choice of a funeral and burial/cremation, or to simply include the aborted baby with medical waste to burned in a facility intended for that purpose.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 24, 2014 08:12 AM (yDmQD)

383 Gaah,  even in UK the journalists are dumber than rocks.   It bugs me that on hearing that UK NHS hospitals saved money by using their furnaces to dispose of dead babies rather than paying for proper cremation it was reported as using those bodies for fuel and this obvious idiocy distracts me from being horrified about treating human bodies that way.   70% water is not a fuel source.   Effing stupid reporter, effing stupid editor,  and of course my effing stupid engineers mind getting distracted by that factual minutia. 

Posted by: PaleRider at March 24, 2014 08:22 AM (FYUWS)

384 I can believe that the hospital is incinerating aborted babies in their boiler, but as far as "helping heat" the hospital, I call BS. There is so much water in human tissue, that the heating value of a freshly-dead human body is about nil. It probably cost's them extra fuel in the long run. Note that crematoriums at funeral homes use a LOT of gas. -- They sent it to a "waste to energy" program center, which takes medical waste. It's a govt run program, so I would not be surprised if it's inefficient and a loss center.

Posted by: Votermom at March 24, 2014 08:22 AM (GSIDW)

385 288. WalrusRex Sadly, no one race is "chosen" for genocide, nor would any "one" hold the monopoly on being target-annihilated as the "raciest" race-racists. First they came for the Christians, and I didn't speak up... from Nero until Constantine, official targets. And that's not even addressing the business of religious Jews like Saul of Tarsus, one of the large body of officials dedicated to exterminating Christians like Stephen. That was then; this is now. Either genocides happened a long time ago, so what difference do they make now. And/Or, the more things change the more they remain. http://www.marinkapeschmann.com/blow-the-whistle-store/ Largest massacre of Christians in Syria IGNORED Christians face extinction in the Middle East The triple tragedy of Christian persecutions in ME ... four more headline links The enemy fabricates media "triggers". So mfg/distribute "whistles" and blow down lies. Gaming racism is a fabricated trigger deserving to be blown away along with users and abusers.

Posted by: The Highlander at March 24, 2014 08:22 AM (/vO0r)

386 OMG AlbertaOilPeon,  are you my sibling from a parallel universe?  

Posted by: PaleRider at March 24, 2014 08:23 AM (FYUWS)

387 387. Jean.

Posted by: The Highlander at March 24, 2014 08:24 AM (/vO0r)

388 384 Why am I struggling to remember changing socks today? Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 24, 2014 12:01 PM (si68n) They're all worn thin with holes?

Posted by: The Highlander at March 24, 2014 08:25 AM (/vO0r)

389 Yes, I knew there are no cell towers out there but I thought they would have had some magical satellite thingy for communication.

If it was the lithium batteries, that means 300 people died for global warming lies.

Posted by: PJ at March 24, 2014 08:25 AM (ZWaLo)

390 My wife is a florist. I would like nothing better than to have a new federal law declaring all aborted and miscarried babies be treated the same as any dead human and have funerals with loads of flowers. Do you just say things to try to push people's buttons. West, or do you really believe this, because that is really and unpleasant idea-that what you would mainly care about is whether it would make a buck for your wife.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 24, 2014 08:29 AM (XyM/Y)

391 Using magic data analysis (never before used and unexplained now), it has been determined that the plane must have gone South and crashed. Which is a big relief because if it went North, that implicates Iran / Pakistan, and it might mean The West would have to confront those adherents to The Religion of Peace.

Whew! Dilemma avoided.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 24, 2014 08:39 AM (IN7k+)

392 "Do you just say things to try to push people's buttons. West, or do you really believe this, because that is really and unpleasant idea-that what you would mainly care about is whether it would make a buck for your wife." Yes. After a few dozen posts where people go out of their way to twist and demonize my comments, I give them something like this to play with.

Posted by: jwest at March 24, 2014 08:45 AM (u2a4R)

393 So your wife isn't really a florist then?. You just said that to give people something to play with? O.K. Seems more than a bit odd to me. Surely there are some libertarian blogs where you could go to where everyone would agree with your POV.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 24, 2014 08:57 AM (XyM/Y)

394 Here's how that magic data analysis works:

Boss:  Do we have anything that supports the Southern track?
Geek:  We have a lot of high noise, intermittent, sketchy data - I'll take another look
Geek, later:  Sir, if we bias our parameters to infer a southerly track, then these datum could be indicative of the missing aircraft.  The confidence level of that is ....
Boss:  Great we found it!  Call the media.
Geek:  Sir, do you want the error calculation and confidence bands supporting that ...
Boss:  Who are you and why are you in my office.

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2014 09:00 AM (Aqvh6)

395 201 Lincolntf, in 99% of aircraft crashes; all the warning sounds, screaming, and cursing happen in the last few minutes. So thirty minutes or two hours is plenty of time.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2014 11:02 AM


Most often heard is "hold my beer and watch THIS"

Posted by: kbdabear at March 24, 2014 09:00 AM (aTXUx)

396 Yeah, I'm going back to my original theory of a rapid decompression event.

They tried to turn back to the airport and passed out completely before they got there.  Plane flew until it ran out of gas.

The other data about the transponder, ACARs, altitude changes etc are faulty.

The co-pilot who said "all right.  good night" could have been suffering from hypoxia already and was foggy in the head.

Posted by: Lost In Maryland at March 24, 2014 09:24 AM (CDGl8)

397 Barky has suggested kicking the distraught Chinese families out of their hotel rooms to make room for the money raising Red Bull F1 race fans in Malaysia. Who needs the crappy Chinese people cluttering up all of the nice hotel rooms? Let's wrap with case up! It has dragged on too long!

Hopefully, Barky will get the Peoples Republic of China to agree to rebuild the Old Soviet Union in a manner that suits Putin before the Red Bull F1 race... and before Barky's fund raiser. Have a nice day.

Posted by: Barney F. at March 24, 2014 09:37 AM (zGaZT)

398 397 Using magic data analysis (never before used and unexplained now), it has been determined that the plane must have gone South and crashed. Which is a big relief because if it went North, that implicates Iran / Pakistan, and it might mean The West would have to confront those adherents to The Religion of Peace.

Whew! Dilemma avoided.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 24, 2014 12:39 PM (IN7k+)



It's all magic. An article in Sunday's NYT stated that the flight's last two known contact points were Malaysian radar and then a satellite positioned proximal to Diego Garcia.  Both indicated that flight 370's direction was west. 


Posted by: CO at March 24, 2014 03:44 PM (ckk1c)

399 I am worried for the families.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 27, 2014 09:47 AM (o4Xc4)

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