September 24, 2013
— Purple Avenger Yea, I know, too soon, yada, yada, yada... ...but this is the first time I've heard of anything actually eradicating the virus in a manner that might be field deployable.
I've taken the liberty of offering some rough English translations for the medical'ese in the piece.
... Here we show that regardless of the route of challenge, RhCMV/SIV vector-elicited immune responses control SIVmac239 after demonstrable lymphatic and haematogenous viral dissemination, and that replication-competent SIV persists in several sites for weeks to months.[UPDATE: moar here]
[Translation: AIDS is crafty and finds all kind of nooks and cranies to hide in]
Over time, however, protected RM lost signs of SIV infection, showing a consistent lack of measurable plasma- or tissue-associated virus using ultrasensitive assays, and a loss of T-cell reactivity to SIV determinants not in the vaccine. Extensive ultrasensitive quantitative PCR and quantitative PCR with reverse transcription analyses of tissues from RhCMV/SIV vector-protected RM necropsied 69–172 weeks after challenge did not detect SIV RNA or DNA sequences above background levels
[Translation: over time, no trace of the virus could be found in any of those usual sneaky hiding places]
, and replication-competent SIV was not detected in these RM by extensive co-culture analysis of tissues or by adoptive transfer of 60 million haematolymphoid cells to naive RM. These data provide compelling evidence for progressive clearance of a pathogenic lentiviral infection,
[Translation: we shot uninfected monkeys full of tissue from the infected/treated monkeys and they didn't subsequently get infected.]
and suggest that some lentiviral reservoirs may be susceptible to the continuous effector memory T-cell-mediated immune surveillance elicited and maintained by cytomegalovirus vectors...
[Translation: This seems to work on persistent viruses like HIV and may also work on other persistent viruses good at hiding, like Herpes]
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Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 24, 2013 05:56 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 24, 2013 05:57 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 24, 2013 05:57 AM (T0Pku)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 24, 2013 05:58 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget[/i] at September 24, 2013 05:58 AM (epxV4)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 24, 2013 05:59 AM (/PCJa)
So he will end up loving fucking monkeys?
Posted by: EC at September 24, 2013 06:00 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: EC at September 24, 2013 06:01 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 24, 2013 06:01 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Bayou City at September 24, 2013 06:02 AM (8yWf/)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 24, 2013 06:02 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at September 24, 2013 06:02 AM (7ObY1)
It appears to be a "cure". I don't know if its prophylactic value has been examined. Some cures are pretty nasty in their own right (ex. Rifampicin for TB treatment is nasty stuff and will beat the shit out of you while its killing off the TB), so their use as prophylactic wouldn't be recommended anyway.
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 06:04 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 24, 2013 06:04 AM (/PCJa)
"I want to be able to fuck anyone I want, including total strangers, wherever and whenever and with whatever frequency I choose, in any and all orifices, without protection, while drunk and/or high on drugs, and in places including dirty lavatories. And when predictable medically unfortunate consequences accrue to me as a result of these habits, I will scream at the top of my lungs that hundreds of billions of dollars in other people's money must be spent on public research to make me well again."
So, this breakthrough will be big, welcome news to the locals.
Can't wait to see what the next big boom in venereal pathogens is going to be. Whatever it is, it'll get started right here.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 24, 2013 06:05 AM (gqT4g)
Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2013 06:06 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Viruses at September 24, 2013 06:06 AM (GmTxn)
>>"Scientists have conjectured that HIV could morph into an airborne pathogen,"
Great. Gays -- the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by: rrpjr at September 24, 2013 06:07 AM (hSNjY)
Posted by: Harry Reid "Want some candy?" at September 24, 2013 06:07 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Penfold at September 24, 2013 06:07 AM (Fbt5B)
Vaccines improve immunity. Pre/post infection administration isn't an issue.
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 06:07 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 24, 2013 06:08 AM (nAyhY)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 24, 2013 06:09 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 24, 2013 06:09 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at September 24, 2013 06:09 AM (6T8Ay)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 24, 2013 06:09 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Hepatitis at September 24, 2013 06:10 AM (GmTxn)
Posted by: Cheetah at September 24, 2013 06:10 AM (T0Pku)
Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2013 06:10 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:10 AM (27gH7)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 24, 2013 06:10 AM (nAyhY)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 24, 2013 06:10 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:11 AM (27gH7)
Maybe not a "cure", but a damn good treatment.
Posted by: EC at September 24, 2013 06:11 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 24, 2013 06:11 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 24, 2013 06:12 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 06:12 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: Lancelot Link - Secret Chimp at September 24, 2013 06:13 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 24, 2013 06:13 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 24, 2013 06:13 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: buzzion at September 24, 2013 06:13 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 24, 2013 06:13 AM (nAyhY)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 06:13 AM (9Xc5j)
But god forbid someone who enjoys beer and cheeseburgers ask to be allowed medical treatment. WE AIN'T PAYIN' FOR MORAL DEGENERATES' BAD CHOICES.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 24, 2013 06:15 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 06:15 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: Ma Bell at September 24, 2013 06:15 AM (RLdcX)
Another sad dog story:
http://tinyurl.com/pfzeobd
Whoever did it should be exterminated with extreme prejudice. Pull a Princesse de Lamballe on them.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 24, 2013 06:15 AM (zF6Iw)
Thank you. Thank you. Though perhaps I should be afeared to be on the same wavelength as the most noble and puissant Queen of Alextopia?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:16 AM (27gH7)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 24, 2013 06:16 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at September 24, 2013 06:16 AM (7ObY1)
That was the "early" necroropsy sample. They were demonstrating the virus had made its way into its hiding places.
Those who continued treatment for 69–172 weeks turned up clean...even in the hiding places. So it was actually a "cure", although it takes some time.
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 06:17 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: An Amazonian Tribal Chief at September 24, 2013 06:18 AM (nAyhY)
****
Nope. I'm watching the Senate debate
Same flapping, different gums.
Posted by: dfbaskwill at September 24, 2013 06:18 AM (71LDo)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:18 AM (27gH7)
Posted by: Lance Link, Secret Chimp at September 24, 2013 06:18 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Diogenes'Lamp at September 24, 2013 06:19 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:19 AM (27gH7)
Hasn't been one since. The rest got it from buttsecks. But nobody talks about that, do they?
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 06:21 AM (fwcEs)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:21 AM (27gH7)
There are still babies born with it, from their mothers.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 24, 2013 06:22 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: So Wrong at September 24, 2013 06:22 AM (AzwZn)
What movie is that from?
Check out the guy with the backpack standing behind the column. He has no idea and gets it right in the face.
Posted by: EC at September 24, 2013 06:23 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Ma Bell at September 24, 2013 06:23 AM (RLdcX)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 24, 2013 06:23 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 24, 2013 06:23 AM (Y92Nd)
'Cause while it's "for the children," those aren't the ones.
Liberals. Why isn't there a vaccine for liberals?
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 06:23 AM (fwcEs)
I watched a special about how scientists track down diseases and it was fascinating. IIRC, the Ebola bug was traced back t a specific bat cave in Africa.
----
Don't those savages know you need a butler to mop up the batshit?
Posted by: Bruce Wayne at September 24, 2013 06:23 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 06:23 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 06:24 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 06:24 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: torquewrench at September 24, 2013 10:05 AM (gqT4g)
Hey, torquewrench, can I pick your brain? Or of any of the SF area Morons?
A dear, dear friend of mine lives in Oakland - OK, technically Rock Ridge, but it's still Oakland - and just had three muggings take place within a block of her house over the weekend. She wants to move (and has the money to do it), but has to stay in the Bay Area. So put me some knowledge: is Vallejo good? The area up by Lake Berryessa (yes, I'm a Zodiac nut)?
Let me know.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 24, 2013 06:25 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 24, 2013 06:25 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:25 AM (27gH7)
A stripper named Sweat Pea is allegedly responsible for breaking the bottle, reported to be a giant bottle of Ace of Spades, on the head of Jones.
I lol'd.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 24, 2013 06:26 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at September 24, 2013 06:26 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: NJRob at September 24, 2013 06:26 AM (iJWJi)
Posted by: Ma Bell at September 24, 2013 06:26 AM (RLdcX)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 24, 2013 06:27 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Reggie Love at September 24, 2013 06:27 AM (fwcEs)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 24, 2013 06:27 AM (DmNpO)
http://tinyurl.com/nmodej5
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:28 AM (27gH7)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 24, 2013 10:27 AM (Z9EHQ)
Well, party like it's 1979, dudes.
Why marry, when you can get the... the.... something for free?
Posted by: Reggie Love at September 24, 2013 06:28 AM (fwcEs)
dial that shit down. there's a LOT of people got it that never asked for it
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 06:28 AM (9MLX+)
Definitely too early to celebrate, but this is certainly a promising scientific development! And just in time for Obamacare to come along and gut innovation and R and D in the field of medicine.
Speaking of our shithead Preezy, has he completely beclowned himself in front of the UN?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 06:29 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 24, 2013 06:29 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 06:29 AM (9Xc5j)
AIDS is not a gay disease!!!!
AIDS is not a gay disease!!!!
AIDS is not a gay disease!!!!
Ronald Reagan hates gays for not funding more AIDS research!!!!
Ronald Reagan hates gays for not funding more AIDS research!!!!
Ronald Reagan hates gays for not funding more AIDS research!!!!
Ronald Reagan hates gays for not funding more AIDS research!!!!
Posted by: Warden time travels to the 80's at September 24, 2013 06:30 AM (bmp0d)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 06:30 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: fluffy at September 24, 2013 06:30 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 24, 2013 10:25 AM (DmNpO)
I'd love a Repub to stand up and say, "No, Mr. Durbin, we do not want to kill grandma. However, I would love to kill your grandma, you lying dick."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 24, 2013 06:30 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 06:31 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 24, 2013 06:31 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:31 AM (27gH7)
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzzer at September 24, 2013 06:31 AM (1frS3)
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 06:31 AM (fwcEs)
***
Shorter Durbin: Republicans want to kill grandma
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 24, 2013 10:25 AM (DmNpO)
Dickless Dirtbag is one of the biggest scumbags on the face of the earth. It's no wonder that he's from Illinois. And this shit state will keep him in office forever
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2013 06:32 AM (1Jaio)
He doesn't hunt.
There is a difference between a man who hunts and one who doesn't.
It indicates one is part of the male power hierarchy and how you can/will advance. Hunting is a part of that and is a strong indicator of male abilities.
Yes, there are other ways to navigate up the male power hierarchy.
However, Putin saw fear, weakness. He saw someone who would be too scared to pull the trigger even if he was starving. Instead of strength, he saw someone more used to poisons, more comfortable playing with words and having others do the hard work.
And then he knew he had him--because they (his power base) don't admire Obama, they only want a share of his power; he maintains power by what he can dole out. Not out of loyalty or admiration or inspiration. And they are always hunger for a new strongman.
So, all he had to do was threaten his mask of power, make him look weak before his base, and he would cave. He laid down very careful insults, insults that would be laughed off as diplomatic wrangling by a more powerful man, but deadly bait to Obama. Because--even though he is Russian--Putin was sending a message: "There is one in the world more powerful than Obama." That could not stand. Worse, by calling his bluff, calling Obama a liar, he teased that he would go so far as to make Obama's base no longer fear him. For who fears a liar?
Putin knows that Obama's weakness is not just his character--for he does have a lot of flaws--no, his biggest weakness is his power base. Obama has to appear to be the strongest man in the room all the time, no matter what.
And that is why Cruz is so dangerous.
Obama is the strongman who holds on by fear. And that fear is reinforced by making sure no one challenges him; a big show and careful facade of how everyone else fears him too.
By making Obama fight, he has already weakened him. And any weakness is fatal . . . .
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 24, 2013 06:32 AM (VjL9S)
If they didn't have HIV, they'd have to die from malaria or dysentery or malnutrition to Save Teh Planet.
And: Everything Bush Did Was Evil + Bush Did Some anti-HIV Stuff In Africa = Fuck 'em.
I really hate proggs.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 24, 2013 06:32 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 24, 2013 06:32 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 06:32 AM (9Xc5j)
Or not funny to realize Focker is a toaster.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:32 AM (27gH7)
Posted by: Ma Bell at September 24, 2013 06:33 AM (RLdcX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 06:33 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: Massachusetts at September 24, 2013 06:33 AM (z9HTb)
While very true, and a definite goal for decorum if nothing else I am familiar with the Red Cross' Blood Donation Screening Question Sheet.
This is the very best of news if it holds.
24 year rule, anyone?
Posted by: Fiend w/no name at September 24, 2013 06:33 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 24, 2013 06:34 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 06:34 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 24, 2013 06:34 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 10:29 AM (9Xc5j)
That's the extent of his knowledge of the conflicts in the Islamic/Arab/Persian/Mid-East/North Africa world. "Israel and the Palestinians don't like each other." That's it. Full stop. He has no concept of the multitude of tribal and ethnic feuds that have simmered in that region for millenia, completely unrelated to Israel or the Jews or the unwanted Palestinians. Like every dumbfuck leftard he blames the Jews for everything because he's too fucking stupid to read a g-ddamn book.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 06:34 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 24, 2013 06:34 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 24, 2013 06:34 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 06:34 AM (9Xc5j)
Let me know.
Posted by: MP4 at September 24, 2013 10:25 AM (zF6Iw)
Lake Berryessa isn't exactly Bay Area.. Valleyjo I think has lots of hispanics, but they may be a bit better than the blacks in Oakland.
I hope she has a sizable budget because housing is ridiculous all over the Bay.
Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at September 24, 2013 06:34 AM (p7BzH)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2013 06:34 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Diogenes'Lamp at September 24, 2013 06:35 AM (bb5+k)
hardest hit by the vaccine will be all those "chasing the bug", may as well be trying to catch a cold.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 24, 2013 10:31 AM (Z9EHQ)
Pretty damned easy, if you are African.
The only place in Africa where the scourge seems to have let up is in Uganda, where the population is mostly Catholic and abstinence is preached. All the other places are supposed to be using condoms, but that apparently hasn't stopped transmission rates. Whole families are succumbing. It is truly the scourge of the continent.
Here, not so much. Transmission to straight folks is mitigated by condom use or just not having sex with men who have sex with other men.
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 06:35 AM (fwcEs)
I've never been banned from a website so quick in my life.
While at "Crooks and Liars" (trolling) I left a comment that simply questioned why Richard Como, who was a hero of the left when he defunded Air Force ROTC as the progressive superintendent of the Coatesville School District, is now being denied by the left after his racist emails were published.
One of the commenters came back with the message that "Ronnie Raygun sold guns to death squads in South America."
You can't compete with that.
Posted by: jwest at September 24, 2013 06:35 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 06:36 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: LEFTY IDIOT at September 24, 2013 06:36 AM (3ZtZW)
No no no no no no no.
She should not go anywhere NEAR Vallejo. If there's anyplace worse and more dangerous than Croak-land, that is it.
It's one of the poster children for California civic dysfunction. To include having gone bankrupt due to lavish spending on its unionized public employees. They have had to cut way back on policing as part of the bankruptcy.
Couple that to a massive gang problem, and you have an avoid at all costs situation. Which is a real shame, because geographically and economically, the city could be a gem. There are even some very nice old Victorians, but not worth the neighbors.
Your friend needs to move inland from Oakland. Get her on the east side of the Caldecott Tunnel. Things are still reasonably safe in "Lamorinda", the Lafayette/Moraga/Orinda axis.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 24, 2013 06:36 AM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 24, 2013 06:36 AM (DmNpO)
And clean needles when you shoot up.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 24, 2013 06:36 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Diogenes'Lamp at September 24, 2013 06:37 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Hal at September 24, 2013 06:37 AM (MftY/)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 24, 2013 10:34 AM (4df7R)
His world view is nothing more than posters on a college dorm wall. Free Mumia. Free Palestine. Meat is Murder. Kill Whitey.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2013 06:37 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: mindful webworker peeks in thru the window at September 24, 2013 06:37 AM (6B4ha)
Posted by: Ma Bell at September 24, 2013 10:33 AM (RLdcX)
I'm not getting the campaign tone or cadence. It's more like he's laying down the law, dictating policies to the UN, lecturing to the assembly. Explaining how it is.
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 24, 2013 06:37 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: grognard at September 24, 2013 06:38 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Ma Bell at September 24, 2013 06:38 AM (RLdcX)
Posted by: Hal at September 24, 2013 06:38 AM (MftY/)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:39 AM (27gH7)
Posted by: Garrett Morris at September 24, 2013 06:40 AM (z9HTb)
Well, learn something about my own area every day, heh. Though I haven't been to Vallejo in years.
But I agree with torque, best areas are generally Contra Costa County or perhaps Union City/Fremont areas.
Oh and she should stay the hell away from Berkeley/Richmond areas as well.
Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at September 24, 2013 06:40 AM (p7BzH)
Posted by: Diogenes'Lamp at September 24, 2013 06:40 AM (bb5+k)
Pretty damned easy, if you are African.
The tendency of backwards Africans to rape young girls -- like infant and toddler young -- in the asinine belief that having sex with a virgin girl will cure or prevent the disease certainly doesn't help. If they weren't already HIV positive from their mother then they could end up HIV positive from the bastard rapist.
But we're teaching them how to wash their junk between sexcapades, so that's cool.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 06:40 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:40 AM (27gH7)
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 24, 2013 10:34 AM (VtjlW)
I really disliked that movie. Really really disliked. Not hated, but disliked.
Posted by: buzzion at September 24, 2013 06:40 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at September 24, 2013 06:41 AM (p7BzH)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 24, 2013 06:41 AM (SXji2)
>>>Magic Johnson got this cure 15 years ago.
BECAUSE HE'S AN UNCLE TOM, WORKING FOR THE MAN!!1! THEY TAKE CARE OF THEIR "OWNED" HA!! YOU WINGNUTS ARE SO NAIVE
Posted by: LEFTY IDIOT at September 24, 2013 06:41 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at September 24, 2013 06:41 AM (7ObY1)
OT: I am glad the TV near me is not working or I would be compelled to watch Dear Reader.
Posted by: Baldy at September 24, 2013 06:41 AM (tyDFN)
Posted by: Diogenes'Lamp at September 24, 2013 06:42 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 24, 2013 10:40 AM (4df7R)
The entire continent is a cesspool, and washing their junk isn't going to do a damned thing. The problem with Africa, currently, is that it is full of Africans.
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 06:42 AM (fwcEs)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 06:42 AM (9Xc5j)
No amount of do gooders speaking of "Science" seems to diminish the influence of traditional medicine and culture.
Hetero sex is apparently compromised by the cultural desire for females to be dry when engaging.
I hope the "cure" is in fact that.
Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 24, 2013 06:42 AM (URNUb)
Kill all the an animals, cure all the diseases.
So far my simple thesis is still working as desired.
Although, I'm a bit cautious of animal work on AIDS though. SIV behaves just a bit differently than HIV, which actually explains the "We've almost cured it!" rush of the 90s. We didn't know this, so we had, in fact created several really great SIV candidate vaccines, that did absolutely bupkis in humans.
Now we know a lot more about what we didn't know back then, so hopefully will filter out bad results (and this seems to be a methodology for attacking the virus, more so than an actual candidate treatment).
OTOH, people will publish all sorts of crap to keep the grant funding going, and AIDS is up there in the funding levels.
Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 24, 2013 06:43 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: fluffy at September 24, 2013 10:30 AM (z9HTb)
----
Damn. How big are the ticks where you come from and if you hate it, just don't do it. Just fap to them.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at September 24, 2013 06:43 AM (SO2Q8)
The tendency of backwards Africans to rape young girls -- like infant and toddler young -- in the asinine belief that having sex with a virgin girl will cure or prevent the disease certainly doesn't help. If they weren't already HIV positive from their mother then they could end up HIV positive from the bastard rapist.
But we're teaching them how to wash their junk between sexcapades, so that's cool.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 24, 2013 10:40 AM (4df7R)
I think they also have this belief that sex is better if the woman is dry. Which tends to increase the chances of bleeding, which would increase the chances of transmission.
Posted by: buzzion at September 24, 2013 06:43 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: Anachronda at September 24, 2013 06:44 AM (U82Km)
Posted by: Warden time travels to the 80's at September 24, 2013 06:44 AM (bmp0d)
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 24, 2013 06:44 AM (VtjlW)
Interesting bit of trivia. Sperm contains a chemical in it which signals the female body to turn off the acid.
It's like a key and a lock.
Posted by: Diogenes'Lamp at September 24, 2013 10:40 AM (bb5+k)
Its transmitted through blood. Anal sex can cause small tears where the virus can be released or received.
Posted by: Lancelot Link - Secret Chimp at September 24, 2013 06:44 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 10:42 AM (9Xc5j)
He's bitching out Ireland AGAIN? I thought he got that out of his system months ago when he went to Belgrade and told them they should take down their walls and send their kids to the same schools because "love everyone" or some bullshit.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 06:44 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 24, 2013 06:45 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:45 AM (27gH7)
Not anymore, according to my Dubliner in-laws.
Posted by: grognard at September 24, 2013 06:45 AM (/29Nl)
Ridge, but it's still Oakland - and just had three muggings take place
within a block of her house over the weekend."
Also, Rockridge is one of those California tragedies, where it's a little oasis of comparative calm and competence that is quite literally surrounded on all sides (it's an enclave city) by the epic disaster that is Oakland.
This leads to situations where the reasonably good Rockridge police end up having to try to deal with the endless failures of the corrupt and inept Oakland police, as Oakland's gangsta-driven street thug crime wave inevitably percolates across the municipal boundary.
I'd consider Rockridge a reasonably nice place to live if it weren't for the Oakland problem. Which isn't going away. Not unless the Rockridge city council build God's own wall around the place.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 24, 2013 06:45 AM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Ma Bell at September 24, 2013 06:45 AM (RLdcX)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at September 24, 2013 06:45 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 24, 2013 06:46 AM (DmNpO)
>>>1 in 5 adults will be infected by AIDs in 10 years!!!
ITS TRUE THEY JUST DON'T KNOW! DON'T MAKE FUN OF SICK PEOPLE, YOU HEARTLESS BASTARD
Posted by: LEFTY IDIOT at September 24, 2013 06:46 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Hal at September 24, 2013 06:46 AM (MftY/)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 24, 2013 10:44 AM (4df7R)
That was when he told the Protestants and Catholics that they should be going to the same churches and schools.
No clue.
Posted by: EC at September 24, 2013 06:47 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:47 AM (27gH7)
This is great news for people who still refuse to act responsibly 35 years after GRIDS first went viral -- so to speak.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 24, 2013 06:47 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 10:45 AM (27gH7)
No, that was me typing too fast. lol! Though I wouldn't put it past our dipshit Preezy.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 06:47 AM (4df7R)
>>>Sperm contains a chemical in it which signals the female body to turn off the acid. It's like a key and a lock
YOU GOT THAT FROM AKINS - - ANTI-SCIENCE
Posted by: LEFTY IDIOT at September 24, 2013 06:47 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 24, 2013 06:48 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Anachronda at September 24, 2013 06:48 AM (U82Km)
This research ain't just about aids
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 06:49 AM (9MLX+)
>>>The Imbecile's biggest problem is that he sees everything in black and white and is unable to make out the shades of grey. So much for his vaunted nuance
He rejects both extremes.
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2013 06:49 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Ma Bell at September 24, 2013 10:33 AM (RLdcX)
I thought UNGS couldn't be from any country which is permanently on the Security Council -
Then again, Bambi loves changing the rules to suit his desires.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at September 24, 2013 06:49 AM (PZ6/M)
Posted by: Anachronda at September 24, 2013 10:48 AM (U82Km)
Just taking a wild guess, I'm going to say "Israel."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 06:49 AM (4df7R)
174 -
Not exactly.
Virus is more concentrated in blood, but infectious HIV is also found in semen. The reason why anal sex results in HIV infection more frequently than vaginal sex is less a matter of the acids in the vagina (although they are a factor), and less a matter of small tears in the mucosal tissue, and more a matter of.....
MORE GAY MEN HAVE THE VIRUS THAN HETERO MEN!!!
It's kinda that simple. It really really is.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2013 06:50 AM (TOk1P)
ago when he went to Belgrade and told them
Belfast is in Ireland, Belgrade is a little further east
Posted by: McCool at September 24, 2013 06:50 AM (nCSwS)
--
WTH? He's against it, yet what is he doing to stop it? Sabotaging Cruz's attempts to do something about it? There aren't a whole lot of other options available.
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 24, 2013 06:50 AM (XB5Ak)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 24, 2013 10:48 AM (DmNpO)
Safely could say he would be better than at least 5 QBs starting today. Which brings me to my rant that Tim Tebow should be starting somewhere , if just to increase these loser team's financial bottom line.
Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2013 06:50 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: McCool at September 24, 2013 10:50 AM (nCSwS)
Not as far east as Peruvia.
Posted by: EC at September 24, 2013 06:51 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 10:45 AM (27gH7)
No, that was me typing too fast. lol! Though I wouldn't put it past our dipshit Preezy.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 24, 2013 10:47 AM (4df7R)
He would. He said Iowa when he was in Ottawa.
Posted by: buzzion at September 24, 2013 06:51 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:51 AM (27gH7)
A motherboard question. Intermittently wont power up. PSU
is good. Just occasionally PC wouldn't start @ 1st push. Now wont
start at all or randomly every umpteenth reset.
Thanks
please excuse crossthreaded bleg
Posted by: DaveA at September 24, 2013 06:51 AM (DL2i+)
Waitasec.
Is this treatment going to affect my use of The Force? I've only got so many midichlorians, you know.
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2013 06:51 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at September 24, 2013 06:51 AM (fzFF6)
Posted by: Anachronda at September 24, 2013 06:51 AM (U82Km)
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate at September 24, 2013 10:49 AM (9MLX+)
Gimme a second will you, I'm reading the paper.
Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 24, 2013 06:51 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: buzzion at September 24, 2013 10:51 AM (LI48c)
And said that Hawaii was in Asia, despite having been allegedly born there.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 06:52 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Hal at September 24, 2013 06:52 AM (MftY/)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 06:52 AM (9Xc5j)
A motherboard question. Intermittently wont power up. PSU
is good. Just occasionally PC wouldn't start @ 1st push. Now wont
start at all or randomly every umpteenth reset.
Thanks
please excuse crossthreaded bleg
Posted by: DaveA at September 24, 2013 10:51 AM (DL2i+)
Duff power switch connections?
Posted by: EC at September 24, 2013 06:52 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 24, 2013 06:52 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, kaiju wrangler at September 24, 2013 06:52 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 24, 2013 06:52 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 06:52 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: EC at September 24, 2013 10:51 AM (GQ8sn)
What is the current infection rate in Peruvia?
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 06:53 AM (fwcEs)
Posted by: nuclearjim at September 24, 2013 06:53 AM (hoz+K)
Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Viruses at September 24, 2013 06:53 AM (GmTxn)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 24, 2013 06:53 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:54 AM (27gH7)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 10:52 AM (9Xc5j)
Never been on the ONT?
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 06:54 AM (fwcEs)
What the fuck is that?
That's what happens on the oceans of tomorrow.
Posted by: Waterhouse at September 24, 2013 06:54 AM (uYaYO)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at September 24, 2013 06:54 AM (fzFF6)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 10:52 AM (9Xc5j)
Never been on the ONT?
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 10:54 AM (fwcEs)
Or Gabe's early morning posts?
Posted by: EC at September 24, 2013 06:55 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:56 AM (27gH7)
What the fuck is that?
That's what happens on the oceans of tomorrow.
Posted by: Waterhouse at September 24, 2013 10:54 AM (uYaYO
building on the seas of destiny
Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2013 06:56 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 10:54 AM (27gH7)
See also: "I need an applause line for this speech about healthcare. I know, let's talk about some kind of Affordable Care Act. Yeah, that'll get 'em clapping for me. God I'm good."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 06:56 AM (4df7R)
Just saw Money Ball for the first time the other night. Tebow is the first baseman that the Manager refuses to start because he can't see how he wins with him.
Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 24, 2013 06:57 AM (URNUb)
Posted by: Anachronda at September 24, 2013 06:57 AM (U82Km)
"To choose our better history"?
"Better history?" WTF? History is history. Do you mean "to choose our better future," dickwad? Because the #1 way to assure a better future is to get you the fuck out of office and install a fucking mannequin in the Oval office to finish out your term.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 06:57 AM (4df7R)
Happens upon the oceans of tomorrow
even as the sandcastles of fancy
are swept away by the seas of destiny
until all that is left is a sign that reads
'Look upon my mighty works and despair.'
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 06:57 AM (27gH7)
1st, Find cable connecting mobo to switch and wiggle connections. It may just be corroded connectors.
If that doesn't solve the problem, try taking the switch out of the equation and shorting the switch cable pins on the mobo with a tiny screwdriver. Depending on the switch type and mobo design, you may need a permanent contact or momentary. If the switch/button feels like it "clicks in", and stays in until pressed again, its probably a permanent, if it feels the same for on/off, its probably momentary contact.
If all that fails, it could be the power-up circuitry on the mobo is toast
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 06:58 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: buzzion at September 24, 2013 10:43 AM (LI48c)
-----------------
Yeesh. If sex meant hammering my pecker into a dry hole until it was a chafed, bleeding mess of raw hamburger, I would just stay celibate. What are these people thinking? That eventually, the blood from your poor abused dick will provide the lubrication?
Fuckin sickos.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 24, 2013 06:58 AM (CJjw5)
Yes!
I lament the fact that conservatives are not what they once were in Hollywood and the media from years before. I would love to have more rightish voices get back into the media and reclaim the pop culture from the libtard douches currently infesting it.
Posted by: EC at September 24, 2013 06:58 AM (GQ8sn)
It's not excommunication but it is a start (from Breitbart):
http://tinyurl.com/lx4gdnb
Posted by: Ragamuffin at September 24, 2013 10:54 AM (fzFF6)
Does she even attend Mass? Seriously. She claims she's a devout Catholic, but does she actually go to church to receive communion in the first place?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 06:58 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 24, 2013 06:58 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 24, 2013 10:57 AM (4df7R)
That would be the one that looks like Biden, yes? He is not nearly as quiet as your average mannequin, but his brain works pretty much like one, and that's a start.
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 06:59 AM (fwcEs)
And yet, I've heard more about this disease in my lifetime than probably any other disease save breast cancer.
Requested federal spending for AIDS in 2014? Almost 30 billion dollars.
30 FUCKING billion dollars.
http://tinyurl.com/o3y2d7e
Posted by: Warden at September 24, 2013 06:59 AM (bmp0d)
I don't drink beer, but when I do I don't pour fictional ones into the PC.
Thanks,
I'll actually have to move it and check. The original got clobbered so I have micro-switch from an old case just hanging out of the front bezel.
Posted by: DaveA at September 24, 2013 07:00 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 24, 2013 10:58 AM (CJjw5)
That pretty well sums it up.
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 07:00 AM (fwcEs)
Thanks, all SF 'rons, for the advice. I'll let my friend know. I'd have her post here, but the language is a little too salty for her!
BTW, no dump today?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 24, 2013 07:00 AM (zF6Iw)
said it was debated throughout conversation before passed.
bah, we weren't allowed to debate . I remember how the debating went .
like this.
Racist tea baggin nutjob!
than he brings up what Reps are doing about the economy?
fgs millions are losing major economic futurs because of THEIR legislation.
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:01 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 10:52 AM (9Xc5j)
I've written some appellate briefs that rival any blather TFG can spew.
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 24, 2013 10:58 AM (VtjlW)
I've pissed better prose into the snow.
Posted by: buzzion at September 24, 2013 07:01 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 24, 2013 10:58 AM (4df7R)
Of course she does. It is a point of pride in her case. She chooses a church with a fluffy, esoteric pastor and then presents her dessicated hide to him for communion, just to poke a stick in the eye of the truly faithful.
She is what is called a habitual criminal, breaking Canon Law like it was a twig.
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 07:02 AM (fwcEs)
Yeesh. If sex meant hammering my pecker into a dry hole until it was a chafed, bleeding mess of raw hamburger, I would just stay celibate. What are these people thinking? That eventually, the blood from your poor abused dick will provide the lubrication?
Not to mention the blood from the woman's poor abused vagina. Talk about fucking painful fucking.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 07:02 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at September 24, 2013 07:02 AM (fzFF6)
Posted by: Warden at September 24, 2013 10:59 AM
The housing funding does still confuse me.
Lots of diseases make it hard to work (and therefore put you at risk of losing your housing).
I never got why AIDS was special in the disease pantheon. (Or rather why it remains special).
Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 24, 2013 07:02 AM (GaqMa)
Next one be better to make it an animated comedy to avoid a bit of screaming.Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 07:03 AM (27gH7)
Posted by: Deety at September 24, 2013 07:03 AM (JOXw+)
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 10:59 AM (fwcEs)
Nope, I mean an actual mannequin, like you'd find in a Macy's window. It doesn't even ahve to be one that looks human; one of those artsy modern mannequins that are, like, navy blue with a triangle for a head would be fine.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 07:03 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 24, 2013 07:03 AM (BAS5M)
>>>It just occurred to me that I don't know a single person with HIV/AIDS. Not one. Not even a friend of a friend of a friend.
TBH, you probably do. People don't talk about it and when they get sick they tend to hide or play it off as something else. They certainly don't reveal status readily outside of small, trusted circles.
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2013 07:03 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at September 24, 2013 11:02 AM (fzFF6)
I believe the cafeteria Catholic stance is that denying her communion would be mean.
Nothing is ever said of what it does for the truly faithful. Who gives a rat's ass about them?
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 07:04 AM (fwcEs)
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 24, 2013 07:04 AM (E+CzW)
haha right wing extremist ideology!
lol B Sanders fgs you lying liar the lies
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:04 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: torabora at September 24, 2013 07:04 AM (ArILZ)
Posted by: torabora at September 24, 2013 11:04 AM (ArILZ)
Not without getting banned from AoSHQ.
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 07:05 AM (fwcEs)
Well, the story itself doesn't have to be overtly conservative. I just want more rightish people working there again. Ofcourse, mixing in the usual themes doesn't hurt either.
Posted by: EC at September 24, 2013 07:05 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 24, 2013 07:05 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: grognard at September 24, 2013 07:06 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Viruses at September 24, 2013 07:06 AM (GmTxn)
Posted by: Max Hardcore at September 24, 2013 07:07 AM (+6nya)
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 24, 2013 11:04 AM (E+CzW)
I don't. Anything you could smoke that makes a person THAT removed from reality is way too dangerous. You'd have people falling off bridges left, right and center because they believe they have wings and that the water below them is soft pudding.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 07:07 AM (4df7R)
http://tinyurl.com/plbpkg2
Posted by: Warden at September 24, 2013 07:08 AM (bmp0d)
yet Republicans need to do something about the economy ?
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:08 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 24, 2013 07:09 AM (VtjlW)
Yeah but most of them are white heteros so no glamor.
Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 24, 2013 07:10 AM (URNUb)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 07:10 AM (27gH7)
Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Viruses at September 24, 2013 07:10 AM (GmTxn)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 24, 2013 07:10 AM (ZshNr)
http://tinyurl.com/plbpkg2
Posted by: Warden at September 24, 2013 11:08 AM (bmp0d)
"Yeah, but people with Alzheimer's are usually old, and old people are smelly and almost dead anyway."
- Leftard emo hipster who smells like patchouli and Starbucks
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 07:10 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: The Sun at September 24, 2013 07:12 AM (8nunQ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 07:12 AM (9Xc5j)
*peers*
I'm trying to find the problem with that.
*peers closer*
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 24, 2013 11:09 AM (VtjlW)
It's okay if STUPID people do it. But I don't want my obituary to be, "MWR died after jumping off a bridge because she thought she had wings and that the river below was made of soft pudding."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 07:12 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 24, 2013 07:13 AM (URNUb)
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 24, 2013 07:13 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 24, 2013 07:13 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 24, 2013 10:10 AM (/PCJa)
Rabies is a good example of therapeutic vaccination.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2013 07:13 AM (gqgiP)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 24, 2013 07:13 AM (DmNpO)
Just while we're on the topic of viral infections:
I have a patient who's in biomedical research. He's genetically re-engineered a rhino-virus to infect and treat prostate tissue. (As in prostate cancer.) According to his tests it's 100% effective without surgery. The problem is the FDA wants to fast track it and get it on the market....but wants him to PROVE that the virus cannot become airborn and create an epidemic that would effectively render men sterile. From a research standpoint how exactly can anyone prove a negative? You can infect one mouse and place him with 100 mice all of whom die of old age an never test positive. That still doesn't guarantee the virus can never mutate.
Posted by: MrObvious at September 24, 2013 07:13 AM (jgcLl)
no protections . if your poor and got sick, no hope . a handful of corporations and people control the financial situations.
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:13 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 24, 2013 07:14 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 24, 2013 07:15 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 24, 2013 11:14 AM (VtjlW)
Exactly! Which is why I don't want any of what Choom Boy is smoking.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 07:15 AM (4df7R)
Pelosi denied Communion by Vatican Court
I won't believe they're serious until I see celebrants tossing that scrunt out of any church she desecrates with her foul existence.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 24, 2013 07:15 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Viruses at September 24, 2013 11:10 AM (GmTxn)
Howso?
There are lots of infectious diseases we don't spend very much money on at all.
And I can almost assure you without looking at my notes that the annual cost of Alzheimer's makes AIDS look like a rounding error in the federal budget. (Eh, that may be a bit over the top. Let's go with "it's a lot more.")
Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 24, 2013 07:15 AM (GaqMa)
***
Turning to CSpan 2 won't help any. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
what was that shown on? is there video?
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:15 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 24, 2013 07:15 AM (cb/Vq)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 07:15 AM (9Xc5j)
http://youtu.be/jCxhIHIZcIE
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 07:16 AM (27gH7)
Posted by: MrObvious at September 24, 2013 11:13 AM (jgcLl)
That's what the FDA wants?
Because more likely the problem would be in the recipient. (i.e. immune over response, excessive infection of the vector, immune weakening leading to secondary infection of another pathogen.)
I wonder if he misunderstands the FDA's request for information.
Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 24, 2013 07:18 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:18 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 24, 2013 07:18 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 24, 2013 07:19 AM (URNUb)
no protections . if your poor and got sick, no hope . a handful of corporations and people control the financial situations.
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 11:13 AM (nqBYe)
The 1920s? So we're not even trying to take teh country back to the 50s anymore, but the 20s? Wow, at this rate in a few weeks we'll be trying to take the country back to the Pleistocene.
And as for a handful of people and corporations controlling financial institutions: look at fucking Wall Street and the White House. They're so in bed together they should be the first couple on that "Sex Box" show in the UK.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 07:19 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 24, 2013 07:20 AM (/PCJa)
I think the aids research money should go to finding a cure for baldness. That's a money maker and as always:
Its better to loook good than to feel gooood.
Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2013 07:20 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:21 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, kaiju wrangler at September 24, 2013 07:22 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 24, 2013 07:22 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:23 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 24, 2013 11:18 AM (VtjlW)
*puts away GLARE of stern disapproval* Very good. You may take one topless celebrity of either gender from the basket by the door.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 24, 2013 07:23 AM (4df7R)
If this scheme works on CMV variations it may also work on Alzheimers.
I'll say it again - THIS RESEARCH IS NOT JUST AIDS, IT HAS WIDE APPLICABILITY.
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 07:23 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 24, 2013 07:23 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:24 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Viruses at September 24, 2013 07:24 AM (GmTxn)
I'm sorry for your loss. And you make a good point about infectious disease vs non-infectious disease.
I'm not in the "they deserve AIDS" camp. No one "deserves" a horrible disease because of bad choices.
My uncle died of emphysema. Horrible way to die. But at the end of the day, he did it to himself through a lifetime of smoking. He eventually quit, but it was too late.
Barring a public epidemic, I would always prioritize funding research for deadly diseases that aren't tied closely to lifestyle over ones that are.
The politics of AIDS just pisses me off to no end.
Posted by: Warden at September 24, 2013 07:24 AM (bmp0d)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 24, 2013 07:25 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 24, 2013 07:25 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Waterhouse at September 24, 2013 07:25 AM (uYaYO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 24, 2013 07:25 AM (DmNpO)
The left wants us to turn us back to the 1960s.
Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2013 07:25 AM (m2CN7)
Think maybe we can work on some human diseases now?
Hello?
Posted by: eleven at September 24, 2013 07:25 AM (KXm42)
“We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times … and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,” Obama said.
“That’s not leadership. That’s not going to happen,” he added.
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:26 AM (nqBYe)
Well this is the best news I've read all week.
Erm...because...a friend of mine has herpes.
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 24, 2013 07:27 AM (n/+FT)
So you're volunteering as human test subject?
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 07:28 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Garfield Mark Logan at September 24, 2013 07:28 AM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 24, 2013 07:28 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 24, 2013 07:28 AM (VtjlW)
CMV is not a benign group of viruses, and the vaccine is based on it, so that suggests that it can be used for CMV diseases.
[Oh...never mind. I read the abstract, and I guess I shouldn't have. Sorry.]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2013 07:29 AM (gqgiP)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 24, 2013 07:30 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 07:31 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: blaster at September 24, 2013 07:32 AM (W6bkf)
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 24, 2013 07:33 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Mindy, Marxist Math instructor at September 24, 2013 07:33 AM (kYWp9)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 24, 2013 11:22 AM (HDgX3)
Apparently not as many here as in Africa.
And yes, there are men out there who will stick it into any hole, but the vast majority keep it to the opposite sex.
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 07:34 AM (fwcEs)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 24, 2013 07:34 AM (R8hU8)
By locking up all the infected?
Heh.
Guess when it comes to that aspect of their "1st Class Healthcare" we are not going to copy it?
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 24, 2013 07:34 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Bill at September 24, 2013 07:35 AM (uvyrw)
Posted by: blaster at September 24, 2013 07:35 AM (W6bkf)
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 24, 2013 11:34 AM (VjL9S)
If only they had locked up that fat fuck Michael Moore, we would have been spared the scourge of his existence.
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 07:35 AM (fwcEs)
Anytime I hear Obamacare now I think of the hospital ER in Idiocracy.
Press Your Luck: Tumor, E-Boli, Just Gas, Tapewrm, Unknown, Gout, Lice, Leprosy and Malaria.
Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2013 07:37 AM (m2CN7)
so that is now the reason to shuffle people into important positions?
silly fkn country.
i hope they gave important consideration to a paraplegic, menatally ill midget because advocacy?
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:38 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2013 11:37 AM (m2CN7)
Sounds like the lunch menu in Zimbabwe.
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 07:38 AM (fwcEs)
Posted by: Michelle Chewbama at September 24, 2013 07:39 AM (EX+sq)
Posted by: eleven at September 24, 2013 07:40 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Michelle Chewbama at September 24, 2013 11:39 AM (EX+sq)
Honey, when did you EVER STOP fucking over the American people, you filthy Antoinette?
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 07:41 AM (fwcEs)
pass farm bill.
patrick leahy.
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:41 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 07:41 AM (9Xc5j)
In theory, it should be cheap. They engineered a benign'ish CMV that triggers the desired immune response against the SIV/HIV.
I assume production of that "counter virus" has to be a lot cheaper than exotic chemical cocktails.
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 07:42 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 24, 2013 07:42 AM (URNUb)
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Someone is cribbing from Reagan's Challenger speech . . . .
And doing it badly . . . .
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 24, 2013 07:42 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2013 11:41 AM (9Xc5j)
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Dammit...... there goes another monitor.... and I need a coffee refill.
Posted by: fixerupper at September 24, 2013 07:43 AM (nELVU)
sigh, have they seen what happens to these communist country?
have they seen what's happened because of the financial crisis they caused!
gah wut.
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:43 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 07:44 AM (fwcEs)
If this proves to be a cure, then bathhouses will be springing up on every corner. Got butt?
We just think we've seen ghey encroachment into the American culture. It'll be all ghey all the time.
Posted by: Soona at September 24, 2013 07:44 AM (3sDOE)
rep immoral. blah
so our educated children must not be educated because no jobs ? nice admittance.
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:45 AM (nqBYe)
Get this cooking against HSV too. Plenty of research suggesting connections between autoimmune disorders and herpes simplex.
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at September 24, 2013 07:46 AM (ZWvOb)
You could have a "cure" that self-propagates throughout populations.
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 07:47 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: joncelli at September 24, 2013 07:47 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:48 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:49 AM (nqBYe)
Herpes is related to CMV. So they are close.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2013 07:49 AM (gqgiP)
Posted by: Why the Hate at September 24, 2013 07:49 AM (QLTeA)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 24, 2013 07:50 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at September 24, 2013 07:50 AM (EGPJQ)
Posted by: Why the Hate at September 24, 2013 11:49 AM (QLTeA)
yep.
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:51 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at September 24, 2013 07:52 AM (fzFF6)
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 24, 2013 07:52 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 24, 2013 07:52 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 24, 2013 11:50 AM (/PCJa)
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This is very true. Which is why I'm not jumping on the bandwagon here. I'd rather see a breakthrough in regards to cancer than one for VD.
Posted by: Soona at September 24, 2013 07:52 AM (3sDOE)
Posted by: Why the Hate at September 24, 2013 11:49 AM (QLTeA)
Nobody is upset about a cure for a disease. Everybody is upset about the massive amount of funding that could have been used more positively for something other than making butt secks safe.
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 07:52 AM (fwcEs)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 24, 2013 07:52 AM (/PCJa)
any science that betters our ability against infectious disease is good.
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 07:53 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: No Hate, Jackass at September 24, 2013 07:53 AM (T0Pku)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 24, 2013 07:53 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at September 24, 2013 07:54 AM (+9dyn)
OT - I had no idea this was possible, well possible maybe, but I didn't think it would happen.
http://tinyurl.com/n7u8668
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 24, 2013 07:55 AM (sj9LN)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 24, 2013 07:56 AM (HDgX3)
377 I don't get why some people here are upset over a potential aids vaccine. This is a good thing and we should be celebrating this potential breakthrough.
Posted by: Why the Hate at September 24, 2013 11:49 AM (QLTeA)
Nobody is upset over an aids vaccine. People are critical of the money and resources put to the effort that might have been better used on other maladies.
Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2013 07:56 AM (m2CN7)
The counter-virus scheme used for delivery into the "hiding places" has very broad applicability to Herpes, RA, Alzheimers, and a host of other CMV related issues.
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 07:57 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: thunderb at September 24, 2013 07:57 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate at September 24, 2013 11:42 AM (9MLX+)
-- Good deal, would the treatment take as long as the trial?
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 24, 2013 07:57 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: Why the Hate at September 24, 2013 07:57 AM (QLTeA)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 24, 2013 07:58 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: thunderb at September 24, 2013 08:00 AM (zOTsN)
AIDS ain't some isolated thing standing alone by itself. Beat this, and all the other shit is easy
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 08:00 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 24, 2013 08:00 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 24, 2013 08:01 AM (Tnlh/)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 24, 2013 08:01 AM (T0Pku)
Posted by: Marcus at September 24, 2013 08:02 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 24, 2013 08:02 AM (Tnlh/)
Posted by: Roy at September 24, 2013 08:02 AM (VndSC)
Complete virus clearance looks to have taken over a year based on the necropsies of the long term subjects.
Some of these stubborn CMV virus hiding places have little/no blood flow through them, so dissemination isn't particularly quick.
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 08:03 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 24, 2013 08:04 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Fritz at September 24, 2013 08:05 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2013 12:03 PM (1Y+hH)
And they get all the crack they want.
Posted by: eleven at September 24, 2013 08:05 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Soona at September 24, 2013 08:05 AM (3sDOE)
Yep.
And while reasonably responsible personal life choices can reduce your risk of AIDS to essentially zero, those same choices can only reduce your risk of cancer somewhat.
Any rational utilitarian strategy for investing public health money would not prioritize AIDS to anything like the degree to which it has been prioritized.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 24, 2013 08:06 AM (gqT4g)
I assume my brother knows a few, since I've given him some little quilty things I've made for local AIDS charity fundraisers. But probably no one I've met.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 24, 2013 08:07 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 24, 2013 08:07 AM (HDgX3)
I swear today's conservatives are just angry grumps. Lighten up a bit and enjoy life.
Posted by: Why the Hate at September 24, 2013 11:57 AM (QLTeA)
I bet you wouldn't say that if they put the same amount of effort and money to isolate the 'gay' gene (if there is such a thing). The genetic mapping and discoveries with that effort would probably yield more ancillary benefits then could be imagined.
Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2013 08:08 AM (m2CN7)
This monkey stuff IS cancer research.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2606113/
Lotta human cancers are CMV related. Attack CMV's and you ARE attacking cancer.
They're designing a wrench here that can turn A LOT of different bolts.
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 08:08 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at September 24, 2013 08:08 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: thunderb at September 24, 2013 08:10 AM (zOTsN)
Straight Sex: 9732
Other: 260
Doctor: Now tell me the truth , it is very important. Have you had any homosexual contact?
HIV patient: uh, well, uh I swear , never . Ask my wife , no never.
Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2013 08:11 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 24, 2013 08:11 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 24, 2013 08:11 AM (BAS5M)
Drug Use: 3961
Straight Sex: 9732
Other: 260
'Straight Sex' = Switch-hitters. I actually knew someone with AIDS as he worked at the same school where I did some volunteer work on their computers. Married, but he had the total gay affectation. He sent my queerdar to 11. He eventually died.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at September 24, 2013 12:08 PM (U2UQk)
That or those drug users going out and having sex with multiple people.
Posted by: buzzion at September 24, 2013 08:11 AM (LI48c)
straight sex is also women infected by bi partners
Posted by: thunderb at September 24, 2013 08:12 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Why the Hate at September 24, 2013 11:57 AM (QLTeA)
Look, folks, another concerned concern troll, who is all concerny.
After all, the secret to success is to ignore all the hard issues in life and just smile, smile, smile. That right, concerny concern troll?
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 08:12 AM (fwcEs)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 24, 2013 12:11 PM (BAS5M)
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It's Monday. I think you're pushing it with the 2:15 time.
Posted by: Soona at September 24, 2013 08:13 AM (3sDOE)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 24, 2013 08:13 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, kaiju wrangler at September 24, 2013 08:13 AM (naUcP)
Prezzy Gutsy Call waves a limp wrist at Iran
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2013 08:13 AM (1Jaio)
*shake shake shake*
Magic Ace Ball says "Outlook not so good".
Posted by: Waterhouse at September 24, 2013 08:14 AM (uYaYO)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 24, 2013 08:14 AM (HDgX3)
It's Monday. I think you're pushing it with the 2:15 time.
Posted by: Soona at September 24, 2013 12:13 PM (3sDOE)
What if it were Tuesday? : )
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 24, 2013 08:15 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 08:15 AM (fwcEs)
Posted by: thunderb at September 24, 2013 12:12 PM (zOTsN)
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.......who weren't told that their partner was into buggering on the sly. These are the only true "victims" of AIDS.
Posted by: Soona at September 24, 2013 08:16 AM (3sDOE)
Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2013 08:16 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: blue star at September 24, 2013 08:16 AM (d7Hgd)
Posted by: Soona at September 24, 2013 12:16 PM (3sDOE)
Not in Africa. There, it is the children born with it, usually to mothers who don't live long enough to care for them.
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 08:17 AM (fwcEs)
Posted by: thunderb at September 24, 2013 08:17 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at September 24, 2013 08:17 AM (fzFF6)
I sense .... concern.
Posted by: Warden at September 24, 2013 08:17 AM (bmp0d)
I don't give a shit. Other researchers are going to latch onto this very quickly.
I'd rather have one scheme that fixes a thousand things rather than a thousand different schemes.
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 08:18 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Warden at September 24, 2013 12:17 PM (bmp0d)
He is all concerny.
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 08:18 AM (fwcEs)
Posted by: Scott M at September 24, 2013 08:18 AM (AdBfq)
Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at September 24, 2013 08:18 AM (p7BzH)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at September 24, 2013 08:19 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Mindy, Marxist Math instructor at September 24, 2013 08:19 AM (kYWp9)
Iranian people to access peaceful nuclear energy,' Obama said."
The right of the American people to access peaceful nuclear energy?
Eh, not so much.
What this "peaceful nuclear energy" nonsense elides is that the Iranians DON'T NEED THE STUFF. They're afloat on an ocean of cheap hydrocarbon energy that will last them a long time to come. There is one, and only one, reason for Iran to have nuclear reactors, and that's to have a fuel cycle which cranks out weapons-grade fissionables.
That's it. Period. End of story. Do not pass "go", do not collect two hundred dollars.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 24, 2013 08:19 AM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Scott M at September 24, 2013 12:18 PM (AdBfq)
Don't bet on it. Most of the sex will be of the bathhouse variety, and that which isn't will be snuffed out by abortions.
Sodom and Gomorrah got nothin' on current affairs.
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 08:19 AM (fwcEs)
I'd rather have one scheme that fixes a thousand things rather than a thousand different schemes.
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate at September 24, 2013 12:18 PM (9MLX+)
How did that embryotic stem cell research work out?
Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2013 08:20 AM (m2CN7)
On the thread where a Democrat wished death upon a woman's children because he disagreed with her politics.
That's where.
Or anywhere else on this site ... ever.
Posted by: Warden at September 24, 2013 08:20 AM (bmp0d)
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CDC is remarkably dishonest with their numbers. First, the ONLY category of stats for which they do not break down by gender is the supposed "straight" sex category.
The fact remains, the VAST majority of hetero transmissions of HIV are male to female. There are some reasonably well documented cases of female to male transmission, but they remain exceedingly rare.
However, the bigger problem with CDC's numbers is that they base their stats on state/local health department data, which is spotty at best. The most accurate numbers and rates for transmission are found when researchers do follow-up interviews with those who test positive, and lo and behold, what they find is that MOST of those cases of "heterosexual" transmissions turn into situations where people would not disclose homosexual activity or IV drug use/needle sharing.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2013 08:21 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2013 11:53 AM (nqBYe)
We have the science to combat bacterial infection, but the combination of lazy doctors, stupid patients and aggressive pharmaceutical sales is biting us in the ass.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2013 08:21 AM (gqgiP)
Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Viruses at September 24, 2013 08:21 AM (sjmF0)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 24, 2013 12:11 PM (HDgX3)
Meh,
I've worked on tons of projects that are limited focus and make AIDS look like an end times plague in comparison (i.e. not very widespread at all).
Lots of basic science is shoehorned into some "clinical area" to get money.
That much doesn't bother me so much actually.
Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 24, 2013 08:21 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: thunderb at September 24, 2013 12:17 PM (zOTsN)
I had to wait until after the election. Now that I have more flexibility. [chin thrust]
Posted by: Preezy O'Waffles at September 24, 2013 08:22 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 12:17 PM (fwcEs)
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To be honest, I'm tired of hearing about the woes of Africa. But your point is taken. Children born from infected mothers are also true victims.
Posted by: Soona at September 24, 2013 08:22 AM (3sDOE)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 24, 2013 08:22 AM (Tnlh/)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 24, 2013 08:24 AM (Tnlh/)
Posted by: Soona at September 24, 2013 12:22 PM (3sDOE)
The problem of Africa being full of Africans....
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 08:24 AM (fwcEs)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, kaiju wrangler at September 24, 2013 08:25 AM (naUcP)
That much doesn't bother me so much actually.
Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 24, 2013 12:21 PM (GaqMa)
Ding...Ding...Ding!
Exactly. The AIDS money is wasted is some cases, but a chunk of it is going to basic research that has to be done.
Hell, the structure of viruses is known in part because of AIDS research. Before that we knew a little bit, but not nearly as much.
Sure, it would have been funded eventually, but it got done because of AIDS.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2013 08:25 AM (gqgiP)
There is a term in the Black community for in-the-closet bisexual men.
Anyone know the word?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2013 08:26 AM (gqgiP)
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It's also true that rates of homosexuality are higher among African-American men than they are for other racial groups. And it appears to be less socially acceptable as well, so you have many more AA men who are "on the downlow," as they say.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2013 08:27 AM (TOk1P)
Sodom and Gomorrah got nothin' on current affairs.
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 12:19 PM (fwcEs)
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This is true. If this turns out to be a cure, we'll see just how boundless immorality can be.
Posted by: Soona at September 24, 2013 08:27 AM (3sDOE)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 24, 2013 08:27 AM (Tnlh/)
Posted by: tcn at September 24, 2013 12:24 PM (fwcEs)
Unfortunately in Africa, might makes right is still the controlling factor. There are so many there that could turn their countries around based on intellectual solutions but are prevented from doing so because of the sword.
Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2013 08:27 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at September 24, 2013 08:28 AM (U2UQk)
Pretty good, in that it prompted others to look for less controversial ways to generate stem cells from people's own skin and such, which reduces rejection to zero.
IOW, if the kerfluffle had never happened, those other avenues would have had less appeal and rejection issues would still be there with any developed treatments.
FAILURE is important. It pushes you to look elsewhere for answers.
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 08:28 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 24, 2013 08:28 AM (Tnlh/)
CDC is remarkably dishonest with their numbers. First, the ONLY category of stats for which they do not break down by gender is the supposed "straight" sex category.
Yeah, as a non-medical person and a non-statistics person (3rd time was the charm in college), that absence kinda jumps off the page. A very noisy non-barking dog.
They can't give us the truth because somebody's feelings may get bruised.
Posted by: Preezy O'Waffles at September 24, 2013 08:29 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 24, 2013 08:30 AM (Tnlh/)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 24, 2013 12:22 PM (Tnlh/)
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That's good advice.
Posted by: Soona at September 24, 2013 08:31 AM (3sDOE)
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Yep, that and they also get to keep saying "the highest rates of increase are..."
Blah blah blah.
These are the things government agencies put out in new releases because they know reporters either don't understand what it means, or they are willing accomplices in the lies the agencies want to tell.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2013 08:32 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Edison what knows 99 ways not to invent incandescent light at September 24, 2013 08:32 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate at September 24, 2013 12:28 PM (9MLX+)
Come on Purp. The failure of embryotic stem cell research to produce anything did not prompt the search elsewhere. Other stem cell research had been going on before embryotic stem cell research and had produced many, breakthroughs and treatment.
Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2013 08:33 AM (m2CN7)
I'd say the babies qualify as "true victims", but what would I know.
Meanwhile, while you're all being assholes, SCOAMF is giving nuclear capabilities to Iran, so I don't think any of this is going to matter.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 24, 2013 08:34 AM (/kI1Q)
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I think there are a number of contributing factors. I'm not sure anyone has, or WANTS to study it. I'm sure prison experiences have something to do with it, but I would be skeptical that it is the main reason.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2013 08:34 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 24, 2013 08:35 AM (Tnlh/)
Y'all should just learn to relax and maybe learn to love a little.
Posted by: Serious You Guys, Why Hate? at September 24, 2013 08:36 AM (bmp0d)
Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2013 12:33 PM (m2CN7)
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Agree. Embryonic stem cell research only gained ground because the euginists needed some kind of positive justification for abortion.
Posted by: Soona at September 24, 2013 08:36 AM (3sDOE)
490 -
Agreed. As in "Tom Cruise has had a succession of beards," or "Doris Day was Rock Hudson's beard."
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2013 08:37 AM (TOk1P)
You should have been here last February when ONE day out of Heart Month was set aside to focus on women with heart disease. "ZOMG, WAR ON MEN! ALL WOMEN ARE BITCHEZ!!!"
Made Amanda Marcotte look loving and reasonable.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 24, 2013 08:39 AM (/kI1Q)
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Posted by: HeatherRadish™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 24, 2013 12:34 PM (/kI1Q)
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And you thought perhaps he'd do otherwise? Most of us have known that this okie dokie to Iran was coming sooner or later. This doesn't surprise me.
Posted by: Soona at September 24, 2013 08:40 AM (3sDOE)
That's what the FDA wants?
Because more likely the problem would be in the recipient. (i.e. immune over response, excessive infection of the vector, immune weakening leading to secondary infection of another pathogen.)
I wonder if he misunderstands the FDA's request for information.
Nope....guaranteed that's what the FDA is asking for. In this case each patient tests negative for prostate tissue and negative for the virus within 8 weeks of infection. BUT the FDA has never certified a viral form of treatment before so they don't know how to act. They're trying to CYA but they're not sure yet what all is required to get that done. All they know for sure is the negative flack they get when something like Thallidamide gets approved for public use.
Posted by: MrObvious at September 24, 2013 08:42 AM (jgcLl)
Right. I was pointing out a similar situation to that of your late friend. And, as far as I know, 'beard' in this context isn't an urban term, but 'down-low' certainly is
I think they're similar but not the same. You can be on the down-low but not have a beard. And having a beard does mean you are on the down-low. Though I also think the idea of a beard indicates that they are aware of their role as a beard. But then you have married guys on the down-low and their wives are not aware of it.
Posted by: buzzion at September 24, 2013 08:44 AM (LI48c)
The self-generated stem cell stuff is only in the past few years. The Chinese technique of transforming skin is very recent...like a year ago.
Sure people have been looking at stem cells in a generic sense, but it wasn't until very recently they looked at using your own tissue to manufacture rejection-proof stuff
Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 24, 2013 08:50 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at September 24, 2013 08:56 AM (8JJ6O)
Equality!
Posted by: Bruce from Spruce at September 24, 2013 09:30 AM (YmPwQ)
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