1 First! (When I got here)

2 I want my friends who voted for this piece of shit twice to get their health insurance cancelled and then raised thru the roof. I hope they get what they voted for good and hard.

3 No. There¡¯s no sugar-coating it ¨C your votes for Democrats have ensured that you are the first generation in American history that will fail to exceed what their parents attained. Embracing liberalism was a stupid thing to do, done for the stupidest of reasons, and I will now let you subsidize my affluent lifestyle without a shred of guilt. Boo-Yah! And, Amen!

4 "It's sarcastic and insulting..." Also, a perfect encapsulation of how I feel. Eff 'em. LIB.

5 I think #caring has to do with caring? I don't know.

6 Heh, some of my friends thought I'd be upset that Obama won reelection. I laughed and reminded them I work for government.

7 Obama    is   awesome  and   he   won.  He   said  so.

8 "It's sarcastic and insulting..." Also, a perfect encapsulation of how I feel. Eff 'em. LIB. Ditto.

9 Give the people what they want. Good and hard. #LetItBurn.

10 I think it's high time we took a mantra away from the dems... Power to the (individual) people. Self determination and self destiny are not dead ideas in Americans. They've just been told that the dem system is the way to achieve.

11 Sarcastic and insulting and you're mad you didn't think of it first. 

12 I personally have stopped being nice in my day to day life and Facebook to people I know who rant about "evil conservatives" or Jesus freaks or the ones that imply that anyone who doesn't vote democrat is a racist. I insult and impugn their intelligence. I take the time to tell them I dislike them and their blatant hypocrisy when they always bitch about compromise and getting along yet spout hateful shit all day. Then I end with a fuck you.

13

>>>"Whatever it means, t's sarcastic and insulting."

 

And therefore awesome, from where I sit.

14 What would happen if Kurt Schlichter and EoJ combined forces and put out their own blog?


The snark would be so massive, it would fold in on itself and disrupt the space-time continuum.

15 What Kurt fails to realize is that he -- and we -- won't be reaping the benefits the "Millenials" voted for. This not being a zero-sum game, the regime will get to choose who it throws under the bus, and that should be an easy choice for them.

"You didn't want it? Fine. You don't get it."

Still, a remarkably tough stance for someone at clownhall to take.

16 Yeah great, thanks. Meanwhile I've voted conservative (or as close as I can get) my entire voting career, and yet, because I'm more or less a millennial (I sit at the edge of the time period) I get hosed along with them. Thanks my generation.

17 Whatever it means, it's sarcastic and insulting.

Posted by: Ace at 10:23 AM

You say that like it's a bad thing.....

Sarcastic, insulting, abusive. Whatever works to rock the Libs back on their heels.

This is like your great comment yesterday about Candy Crowley, which you then backed away from as being "too edgy."

When you are too edgy, trust me, someone around here will tell you.

18 I will now let you subsidize my affluent lifestyle without a shred of guilt. I don't get it. If he's that rich, he's not a member of the FSA.

19 That was an awesome sundae topped with hot awesome sauce.

20 I hope all the people that voted for him like their shit sandwich. And not just the ones who voted for Obama,



Throw everyone who voted for a Democrat in that barrel too because the Dems own that issue totally.

21 All you wacko-birds upsetting the apple-cart.


We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House

22 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 05, 2013 10:31 AM (oJ5Fd) I've always seen him use it to point out how often "caring" boomerang back and harms the person we're supposedly being generous to.

23
Milennials: duhh...what? Student debt? No jobs? uhhh...I only care about transgender rights and womyn in binders so why should I care about that stuff

24 It's two, two things in one

25 >> Whatever it means, t's sarcastic and insulting. And directed at all the right people.

26 People get the government they deserve

27 Thanks my generation.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 05, 2013 10:30 AM (GaqMa)

The perfect little flower has seen the future...and it sucks.

Now redo my latté -- it doesn't have enough foam.

28 And I’ll leave you a tip – next time you decide to vote for a liberal, first be born in 1964.


Hahahahaha!!!!

29 When you are too edgy, trust me, someone around here will tell you.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 05, 2013 10:31 AM

Short of advocating illegal behavior and/or violence, there isn't such a thing as "too edgy."

Some sites disagree. That's why they block posters from using words like "revolution."

30 Yeah great, thanks. Meanwhile I've voted conservative (or as close as I can get) my entire voting career, and yet, because I'm more or less a millennial (I sit at the edge of the time period) I get hosed along with them. Sorta like being called a rayciss every day for simply being born white.

31

that I should offer you a positive, hopeful message that avoids the touchy problem of your manifest stupidity.

 

*swoon*

 

I'm not a man, but if   I   were, it would have moved.

32

18 -

 

What it means is, at his age he's going to get prostate exams, colonoscopies, viagra presciptions, and if  necessary all the other perks his insurance will pay for, at the expense of the  milennials  who are paying as much as he is in spite of never having more than a cough and a hangnail. 

33 Now redo my latté -- it doesn't have enough foam. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 05, 2013 10:32 AM (oJ5Fd) Thanks. I'm stealing that. Here's a couple of extra 120mm canister rounds for ya.

34 Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 05, 2013 10:32 AM (GaqMa)

Or mocking the liberal conceit that their words are as important as their actions.

35 As a general principle, I am against suffering.  I am also against willful stupidity.  Sometimes the one leads to the other.  Reap what you sow, and all that.    Sometimes you have to be brought to the brink of despair and destruction before you start looking at more positive and life-affirming choices.  It sucks.  But there it is. 

36 Ace is totes Jealie!

37 harms the person we're supposedly being generous to.

There's a growing chorus of African intellectuals (good sense) who are advocating for LESS aid because they believe it does more harm than good, and promotes corruption.

38 Next up on Drive In, Dives and Diners, we go to Sixteen Hundred Pennsylvania Avenue where they make the biggest Sh^t Sandwich you've ever seen... for the middle class... #caring

39 theyre not going to learn from it. theyll double and triple down, then through their ignorance of history, follow the well worn path of leftist atrocity

40 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 05, 2013 10:32 AM (oJ5Fd) Firstly, Lattes don't get foam . (But I assume you knew that.) Secondly. Come now, you know I've been fighting against this for a while. I'm getting fucked over by the undertow at this point (but I've seen that coming for years.) Now then, I have to go, I have a phone interview for a contract tutoring company to see if I can find some source of income. (Joy and fucking happiness.)

41 People try to put us down (Talkin' 'bout my generation) Just because we got beclowned (Talkin' 'bout my generation) We bought the shit Obama sold (Talkin' 'bout my generation) But he's still cool, you're white and old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)

42 Here's a couple of extra 120mm canister rounds for ya.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 05, 2013 10:34 AM (JpC1K)

Perfect timing.....I need to go to Clifton, and NJ says I can't carry concealed.

43 Now redo my latte -- it doesn't have enough foam. ---- Not a good idea to antagonize people who handle your food and have very little to lose.

44 #caring....

Kurt and I plat tag there some Ace...

45 Sen. Alexander is beating up Ms. Tavenner over the grandfathering 'clause'.

46 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 05, 2013 10:34 AM (oJ5Fd) It's a complex notion tied up in a hashtag. Amazing work by Schlichter.

47 Ironic that there is an ad for Federal Student Loans beneath the thread.

48 Sometimes you have to be brought to the brink of despair and destruction before you start looking at more positive and life-affirming choices. It sucks. But there it is. Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 10:35 AM (P6QsQ) That's the foundation of every 12-step program, right there. Looks like it's time to start a chapter of ProgressiveTards Anonymous.

49 I know a lot of millenials in va. They think Ken Cuccinelli is a maniac who would ban birth control. I hope they all fucking lose their health insurance and jobs.

50
The only problem is that my kids will follow that stupid generation and be even worse off.

51 So it turns out Obama is finally getting the massive tax hike he's always wanted. He's just calling it "insurance."

52 Ah yes, zee Obama Youth...

53 Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 05, 2013 10:36 AM (GaqMa)

Directed at pretty much everyone your age....except for you.

54 Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 05, 2013 10:37 AM (JpC1K) If only. Like crappy parents who enable their junky kid rather than help him, the progressives are busy trying to hide as much of the problems as they can from the young. By the time they realize it, it'll be far to late.

55 This guy should remember Obama and his Rogue's Gallery are members of his generation.

56 What hurtful things to say. Certainly not as hurtful as paying off those useless student loans will be, but still hurtful.

57 Miss Me Yet?

58 Perfect timing.....I need to go to Clifton, and NJ says I can't carry concealed. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 05, 2013 10:36 AM (oJ5Fd) Yeah, just cover the base plate until you're sure you need it. Static electricity can be a bitch.

59 If you want an example of a population that has been helped and nannied into the third world, look no farther than any Indian Reservation in ND or SD. The tribes that have embraced a sort of capitalism are the only ones who flourish. And they don't pay state tax

60 Just wait until the Milennials become the Kulaks

61 I loved this turn of phrase:

"psychotic Jesus freaks who want to Footloosisze America into a land of mandatory Sunday school and no dancing"


But with millenials, they are the ultimate LIV with liberal-feel-good-itis and won't ever see this. If they did they wouldn't get the snark.

 They're more like, "Oh wow, I voted for Obama and I feel good. Latte time. Check my iPhone.  Ohhh, look at Buzzfeed.  Hey girl, hit me back. Healthcare.gov? Never heard of it. Yeah, whatever Obama decides will be good for the country. He's so cool. . . "

62 This new guy, Early Morning Ace, is hell on leftists. Love it.

63 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 05, 2013 10:38 AM (oJ5Fd) The problem is I don't think the rose has lost it's bloom yet for people my age. I still see them walking around saying "single payer health care, guaranteed income!" (Some of these people have good jobs some are unemployed.) And they rail against the security state in the same breath. My generation is stupid. I think the 70s may have had a genetic effect and passed on stupid down the chain.

64 Read the comments under stories aof rising insurance premiums, substandard Obamacare plans, etc.  The youngsters are calling it anecdotal and incorrect.  They really need a good financial ass kicking.  I can't believe the Obama job market and huge student debt for worthless degrees haven't opened their eyes.  With libs believing they are financially untouchable because they got a participation trophy in soccer and have good feelings toward like-minded peers,  it isn't bad until it happens to them personally.  This might take a few more months.

65 only thing might wake em up is condemnation from the rest of the world. we dont count. even then theyll look for anything but gop

66 Can anybody tell me if state universities are going to be dumping the lazy fucks that float about their halls onto the exchanges?

'Cause that would be delish.

67 Just wasted half an hour I will never get back by voting (I'm in NY).
Sent a message to the Republican party by voting on the Conservative line. I am sure they will lose sleep over that.

68 Doesn't Mikulski have a bridge  to go live under?  (Senate Obamacare hearing  on CSPAN)

69 OT -- According to Breitbart, there are massive problems with the computerized voting system in VA. Seems there are no paper voter-registration lists, and the electronic system isn't working.

Funny how that happens.

70 What's that Ms. Jarrett?  An audit team.  In SoCal.  STAT.  You've got it.

71 37 harms the person we're supposedly being generous to. --- Teach a person to fish and he will eat for a lifetime. Give him a SNAP card to buy fish and he's a Donk- voting member of the FSA for a lifetime.0

72 #caring a double edged sword

sometimes you care and sometimes you mock donkey "caring"

73 Ohhh, look at Buzzfeed. Hey girl, hit me back. Healthcare.gov? Never heard of it. Yeah, whatever Obama decides will be good for the country. He's so cool. . . " Posted by: Sphynx at November 05, 2013 10:40 AM (OZmbA) You can ignore reality. But reality doesn't ignore you.

74 Honestly, there's nowhere we can go that's as sarcastic and insulting as the average libtard on any given day. Regarde'! http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/11/05/mcmillan-rubio-uncle-tom-cruz-hitler And there's no humor or snark or cleverness involved at all- just pure bile. So, telling libs they suck to their face at every single opportunity may just be the way to go. It will knock them off their cultural smugness.

75 I gotta say I loved hearing my left wing girlfriend scream what the fuck last week when her insurance was cancelled.

76 69 Nah,our elections are all totally legit,this isn't the third world.

77 >Whatever it means, it's sarcastic, insulting AND TRUE.<

FIFY.

A big fuck you to the people destroying our country because they're too selfish, foolish or indoctrinated to realize it.

Maybe you can come over to the "dark side" and curse out the people who are still zombies for social injustice or some other stupid, mindless shit. It's great fun.

Now go get your shine box.

78 I hate being lumped in with millennials. Being born in '82, I'm on the front end of them. Most of my Facebook friends are raging liberal idiots who freak out when I point out that their god-emperor has no clothes. It's disgusting.

79 Froat, froat on.

80 I know a lot of millenials in va. They think Ken Cuccinelli is a maniac who would ban birth control.

I hope they all fucking lose their health insurance and jobs.

Posted by: Mr Pink at November 05, 2013 10:37 AM (OE6nK)

Right after Mitt Romney bans tampons

81 Teach a person to fish and he will eat for a lifetime sit in a boat & drink beer all day....

82 69 scribbler,

funny that...

even funnier is that GOP AGs can't fix it

83 'Cause that would be delish.

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 05, 2013 10:41 AM (VjL9S)

I heard on the news this morning that a local community college ended their bare-bones catastrophic insurance because the costs would soar. So they just dumped a bunch of idiot kids into the exchanges!

84 I like the newly improved Morning Ace.  

85

86 I have a lib SIL who votes Dem all the time.  I'm wondering if they got their insurance bill yet. I have work provided insurance and my part of the bill went up by $170.

87 Meanwhile I've voted conservative (or as close as I can get) my entire voting career, and yet, because I'm more or less a millennial (I sit at the edge of the time period) I get hosed along with them. Right there with you. Hopefully, most of them will figure out what we've already learned in time.

88

16Yeah great, thanks.

Meanwhile I've voted conservative (or as close as I can get) my entire voting career, and yet, because I'm more or less a millennial (I sit at the edge of the time period) I get hosed along with them.

Thanks my generation.

 

As a fellow millennial (born in '8 I, for one, fear the day when my generation takes the reins of power. I would have happily supported raising the voting age to 21 back in '08, even though I'd have been disenfranchised, if it would have stopped Obama from getting elected. Our age bracket deserves nothing less for its stupidity.

89 Let's not forget about the Boomers who sold their children's souls to the Chinese.

90 BlueStateRebel :I don't get it. If he's that rich, he's not a member of the FSA.

Smart and rich libtards ARE card-carrying members of the FSA. The Free Shite flows strongest to those in Obama's donation camp.

91 even funnier is that GOP AGs can't fix it
Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 10:44 AM

They're all hunting for the "reset" button.

92

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93 The youngsters are calling it anecdotal and incorrect.

They're just still in denial. 

When false gods are exposed things turn ugly. 

I'd refer people to that SG-1 episode where Claudia Black's Katesh character goes back to the poor mining planet where she's the local god.  The locals turned on her in a heartbeat when it was revealed she'd been duping and robbing them for years.

I don't think Obama will be afforded the luxury of a "Maldoran" where he can defend his actions.

94 There's a growing chorus of African intellectuals (good sense) who are advocating for LESS aid because they believe it does more harm than good, and promotes corruption.

No!

95 So, telling libs they suck to their face at every single opportunity may just be the way to go. It will knock them off their cultural smugness. Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 05, 2013 10:42 AM (CRY7r) There is no reason that they should feel free to spout bile against right wingers as they see them. They feel free to because everyone sits there when they do and takes it. No fucking longer around my ass. Fuck that.

96 52 Ah yes, zee Obama Youth... If they had any sense of history (I know, I know, but stay with me) the Obama Youth would know what happened to Mao's Red Guard once they outlived their usefulness and became a political liability. It made the drive-in scene in Red Dawn look like child's play.

97

Millenials will do fine.  And by fine I mean that they will pull my chariot with the right amount of vigor.  After all they did volunteer for the position.

 

 

Now I'm off to make sure the rowers on my galley know that I'm water skiing today.

98 Suck on it proles.

99

There's a growing chorus of African intellectuals (good sense) who are advocating for LESS aid because they believe it does more harm than good, and promotes corruption.

 

Posted by: Purp at November 05, 2013 10:35 AM (fZ2Zr)

 

 

And they are 100% correct.

100

@63

 

I read somewhere long ago that nuclear testing was not good for your generation.  

101 My generation is stupid. I think the 70s may have had a genetic effect and passed on stupid down the chain.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 05, 2013 10:40 AM (GaqMa)

Thus my constant struggle with biting back, "Are you really that fucking stupid?" whenever I talk with people in their 20s.

And most of my family, but that's another issue.

102 Facebooked the article.

103 With libs believing they are financially untouchable because they got a participation trophy in soccer and have good feelings toward like-minded peers, it isn't bad until it happens to them personally. This might take a few more months. Posted by: Dang at November 05, 2013 10:41 AM (Hx2XA) Yes, but it will be the fault of the Republicans then, so it's all good. / sarc

104 I'd refer people to that SG-1 episode where Claudia Black's Katesh character goes back to the poor mining planet where she's the local god. The locals turned on her in a heartbeat when it was revealed she'd been duping and robbing them for years.

I don't think Obama will be afforded the luxury of a "Maldoran" where he can defend his actions.

Posted by: Purp at November 05, 2013 10:46 AM (fZ2Zr)

Are you by chance a member of the cast of "Big Bang Theory" ?

105 My generation is stupid. I think the 70s may have had a genetic effect and passed on stupid down the chain. --------------------- The acid that their parents did during the 60's.

106 "Maybe you'll listen to pain" -  a classic.

107 *looks up from reloading flame throwers* Oh. Hey. Look a generational war circular firing squad. I'm just going to stick to burning down all the banana trees tyvm. Sekrit to tsrblke: I would say sorry about your house but sometimes sacrifices have to be made by other people. Sekrit to MWR because I am better: http://bit.ly/1dKIPbW

108 Think liberals "care" about the poor? Put enough welfare kids in their schools so that it is 30-50% poor kids and watch them run. I want these people to take it up the ass. It's justice.

109 When the Millennials were protesting with all the Occupy hoohah, I just thought that they're mad at all the wrong people. They should be mad at their parents and teachers and the people who left them gullible.

110 75 I gotta say I loved hearing my left wing girlfriend scream what the fuck last week when her insurance was cancelled. I got that from my moonbat brother. I said, "Gee, if only there had been some political party that tried to warn everyone, and were called poor-hating racists who wanted to push grandma off a cliff for their efforts. If only." He had no valid response whatsoever, so he mumbled something about the eeeeevil Ted Cruuuuuz and dropped the conversation.

111 105 Mike Hammer,

I think it was the lead paint I drank....

112 Man, that Brosurance ad is really embarrassing. That's what we've come to?

113 I'll tell you how it is that the Millennials* got that way: It's their parents.

I don't know how many of these lazy bastards had a physical labor job at any point in their life--or any job before college, for that matter.

None had hard jobs growing up, were never forced to do anything hard by their parents, and they were spoiled by the leftist TV/Hollywood lie of "do this fun thing that you love and you'll make lots of money."

And now, as they get older, I see bitterness and resentment setting in. And it's aimed at the wrong target. Because they've been indoctrinated with "all evil is the fault of conservatives and all evil that befalls you is because of a conservative somewhere."

Sit back and watch. This ride is going to suck.

*According to the Latin, dropping that second "n" results in a word that means "1,000 asses (donkeys)" which, . . . would be appropriate. I know this because of that car which was to be spelled correctly dropped the second "n" and my Latin teacher though it quite humorous.

114 Someone should post this on reddit and watch the meltdown commence

115 I gotta say I loved hearing my left wing girlfriend scream what the fuck last week when her insurance was cancelled. Posted by: X at November 05, 2013 10:42 AM (KHo8t) Well, at least you won't be marrying her.

116 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 05, 2013 10:50 AM (VtjlW) Why you no like bananas? And sure, fine, I just keep on giving. I put in more job applications today, one for a right leaning state think tank. Maybe, just maybe I'll get lucky for once. I knew my generation was boned, I just didn't realize it was this boned. I had hoped to at least live slightly above depression era levels

117 Funny thing about my lib SIL.  Her daughter graduated from college last year.  No job for people with a degree in liberal.   She now works as a waitress in a restaurant. 4 years to take a job you could get right out of high school.

118 ROTFL

119 Their minds are too weak to fight.  Just like the Miami Offensive Lineman from Stanford, who was taught to be a beta-male and doesn't have the will to standup for himself

120 two things the gop or whoever party inherits us after they implode need to know about millenials they are lockstepped and easily led they want to do big things for "society" could be big fuck ups like ssm and ocare could be socialist revolution or civil wars could be a world war etc so they need to appeal to that incoate urge and direct it consstructively

121 I wish i had any faith the personal slam from Obamacare would have any lasting effect, That they would wake the hell up.
I have doubts, many seem to be buying if it Wasn't for those Cruz type rightwingreligiousteabaggers This would have worked out for US (although they will say the poor) that need  help.

122 Nearly all of the baristas at my local Starbucks voted for Romney. That idiotic petition Ed Schultz pushed during the shutdown? I had no idea so many Mike Hunts lived here. There are always bright bulbs in a generation or even profession of dim ones.

123 Posted by: RoyalOil at November 05, 2013 10:51 AM (VjL9S) And perhaps this is why I'm here and my friends aren't. I had several that were "too good for part time work." in high school while I toiled away 30-40 hours/week during the summer (and 15 during the school year) flipping burgers at a McD's. And I did good at it.

124 I like the newly improved Morning Ace.

Posted by: Beagle at November 05, 2013 10:44 AM (sOtz/)

I think it's actually Standard Time Ace.

125 My generation is stupid. I think the 70s may have had a genetic effect... ---- More like an educational one. If you're of our generation and went to public schools, you were probably taught by the most liberal of our parents' generation and therefore only learned history or math on your own.

126 I only want to know when we get beyond the rhetoric to some ass kicking.

Because arrogant, factual smugness undergirded by material real-world events and the fact most millennials are indentured servants of a state they helped create only provides a limited amount of pleasure. Things really don't get going until we move from brow-beating to butt kicking, Then, the conquest is complete.

127 I'll tell you how it is that the Millennials* got that way: It's their parents.

I don't know how many of these lazy bastards had a physical labor job at any point in their life--or any job before college, for that matter.

None had hard jobs growing up, were never forced to do anything hard by their parents, and they were spoiled by the leftist TV/Hollywood lie of "do this fun thing that you love and you'll make lots of money."

----------------------



I'd add "their parents didn't take them to church", but that's just me. 

128 117 Vic,

Hey Vic she knows which customers shackled her bud...

You and me...

129 "A form of "critical thinking" that is neither." Heh.

130 Emo Philips running cover for this crap sandwich.

131

Heh, I love this.   Over at Twitchy, some MTV2 host (I have no idea, I don't watch that shit) is all, "WTF?!" about his coverage costs going up.

 

MTV2 host Lil Duval on Obamacare: ‘The f*ck I’m getting charge more for already having insurance?’

 

Twitchy:  http://tiny.cc/og225w

 

My favorite line is when he tweets, "I knew I shouldn't have never got health insurance."    Guess what, asstwat:  WE ALL have to get health insurance now.   Including YOU.

132 I teach best, in fact, I'm the only real instructor.

133 Measuring outcomes is rayceest

134 We had no issues in Falls Church, hell I knew most the voters.

135 212 Obama via pool: "we've been very frustrated, I personally have been very frustrated, with the problems around the website and healthcare." Posted by: Tami at November 04, 2013 07:55 PM (bCEmE) But she understands what it means to be a women victimized by evil white men. So there's that. Would it be mean of me to suggest that you tell her she can up her tips by showing some cleavage?

136 Millennial's? I've heard more interesting sounds from a sphincter. 

137 Things really don't get going until we move from brow-beating to butt kicking, Then, the conquest is complete. Posted by: Marcus at November 05, 2013 10:54 AM (GGCsk) It's a start. Don't harsh my mellow.

138

Am I in a parallel reality where Gen-Xers supported Reagan?  Every generation was more liberal when they had just got out of the liberal boot camp we call school.

 

Are we going to pretend the Great Society didn't put us in the hurt locker?  Social Security?  The Income Tax?  Who were the brainwaves who supported these programs?  They couldn't all have been millenials.

 

And let's remember in the 90s when we could have fixed everything with no problems, the response was 'kick the can' and watching TV.

 

Millenials aren't any stupider than any other group of young people in our history.

139 Why you no like bananas? And sure, fine, I just keep on giving. I put in more job applications today, one for a right leaning state think tank. Maybe, just maybe I'll get lucky for once. I knew my generation was boned, I just didn't realize it was this boned. I had hoped to at least live slightly above depression era levels Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 05, 2013 10:52 AM (GaqMa) *stares* I take it you missed out on that whole bananas + spiders = me going something something link in the dump. I will send out prayers and good thoughts that you get a job.

140 i will add to my previous comment, Some go further and believe You working directly for Them for Free  or any amt of money they think they should cough up willingly  and  They should judge is the way to go.
Look at the demand for Doc's to be MADE to take medicaid medicare patients.
 Or Demands for Others to Abort your kid. Preferably Free and with a smile.

141 #12 I tell them al that and last week, one cow randomly posted how she didn't like Palin, just didn't like her, and that her husband thinks she(the prog wwritting) looks like Palin and pisses her off. I told her she was lucky she's getting Ocare as her hubby is going blind, Palin was a beauty queen and she could trust ME, she is no Palin. Would you believe she unfriended me?!

142 131 MWR,

and you reply #caring

143 How come I have this feeling the Inside The Beltway RINO's will let this opportunity slip between their collective legs?

144

I was born in '82 and half of the people who write about that kinda crap always try to turn me into a millennial.  As far as I see it, I turned 18 before the millennium rolled over (in '01, not '00), so that makes me Gen X.  I remember Atari game consoles, the Commodore VIC-20, analog cellular phones (and even a time without cellphones), when popular music was still music (grunge counts, it had a melody and actual people playing instruments, at least), and when MTV played music.  I remember having Presidents that were worthy of respect, an America at its zenith, and a time when you could live without fear of your government.  I remember a world that still made sense.

Most of the millennial generation can't remember what a stable, safe, and happy society feels like.  Their formative years weren't Reagan/Bush, but Clinton and everything after.  Their world is one where America has always been dysfunctional, in decline and retreat, and where it's always been the bad guy.  Their reality was never two parents working to keep a comfortable roof over their kids' heads, but of divorces, apartments, and government "aid".

To a millennial, nothing is solid, nothing is forever, and nothing is guaranteed - except that government check.  They take what they can get now, and nuts to later.  That means going to every party you can, drinking all there is to drink, smoking all there is to smoke, and so on.

Meanwhile?  I'm just some guy who goes to work, and I end up paying for all of their fun.  Yeah.  I'm not a millennial.

145

I said this yesterday, it makes me  somewhat  despondent that the only way that you have the LIV pay attention is when  a few bucks are directly taken from their pockets.   You can have one degree of separation from   that and they could care less even if the amount was quadrupled. 

 

 

146 Sekrit to MWR because I am better: http://bit.ly/1dKIPbW

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 05, 2013 10:50 AM (VtjlW)

 

 

*COOO*   So preeeeeetty.

 

*paws at screen*

 

See?  I know AtC would never throw spiders at me, like how I'd never toss clowns at her.  *nod!*

147 When fascism comes to America, it will accuse the other side of being racist hatemongers who want to outlaw sex.

148 That was brilliant. 
I actually think the best way to convert the Millenials is with this type of hard-hitting message.

I'm hopeful they will see the err of their ways, as many people do when they get older and wiser.  My fear though is, they were likely raised in a religion-hating household, and will take that culture to their grave. 

149 Lord, I screwed that up. Was supposed to be Vic's comment about his liberal arts grad niece working as a waitress.

150 IÂ’ll take my cheaper insurance, my future Social Security checks, and the other benefits that come from being established without guilt. 1) This is how I feel. I am financially secure, and was able to retire early due to my hard work, good education and career choice, and, of course, a little luck along the way. But, mostly hard work and sacrifice. I have no guilt. I am proud of my accomplishments, and rewarded, not just with financial stability, but, a self-worth, confidence, and integrity you cannot find without hard work. 2) Which is why it brings me to tears. I have nephews and nieces that, although brought up with the same value system, will find it much harder to reap the rewards of self-worth. Or, understand why America was/is so great. We are looking at the last of a generation that can take care of their own parents - and want to. Will there be a tectonic shift come election time? Is it sinking in? I'm an optimist, but, then I was raised to be so.

151 Leave the insurance policy, take the latte

152 I think the point of #caring is the shallowness of liberals' supposed caring. They are and vote for the people who tweet about Haiti, for example, and want a government program to "do something about Haiti". Whereas conservatives just go out and try to do something themselves.

153 138 Bevel L,

Gen X backed Reagan....we were the most conservative 20 year olds in generations

154

What is best in life:

To laugh at your enemies (no crushing with the current Republican strategists).  To see them  f*%k themselves up.  To hear the lamentation of the women-men who voted for OBumbles and just got their insurance bills.

 

155 Millenials?  Is  that  just  a  bigger centipede?

156 I was truly born at the right time. In my youth, the Woman's Lib movement convinced girls that they should give it up to me at no charge, and now in my dotage, the youth have been convinced to support my healthcare. Some call it The Notch, I call it The Saddle.

157 Guys like Schlichter need to realize that stupidity is relative. He probably has a lot tied up in 401Ks. Which are invested heavily in insurance companies. Which Obamacare is working to destroy. Karma can be a bitch to anyone.

158 I read the whole thing. I should know this guy-Law school classmate and neighbor. And smart.

159 Good Gawd, you guys see the picture of Teh Won hugging Bill Russell? (you can view it at Deadspin.com) Every time I think Teh Won can't get any more Beta Male...

160 Sarcastic and insulting and you're mad you didn't think of it first. Posted by: BurtTC at November 05, 2013 10:29 AM (TOk1P) hehe

161 Maybe if many of the milllenials and older folks hadn't bought into the whole "cool Obama" who will bring us together, and and not based their vote on ads and then had done some darn research over the past few years they would have known what was coming down the pike with Obamacare.

162 Saw some more stories about rural counties in America that can no longer afford to pave their roads. This is an increasing trend as America gets poorer. Gravel is a lot cheaper to maintain. Highway and infrastructure spending has decline about 30% under Obama.

163 From Andrew Brietbart, a man so infectious that even a sworn ideological enemy could respect and love to this Schlichter douche, a man so repulsive that even an unswervingly devoted ally could hate.

In addition to his expertise at winning hearts and minds, he's also a world-class bully on twitter (yes, yes, I hate that word too but in this case it's appropriate).

164 I personally have stopped being nice in my day to day life and Facebook to people I know who rant about "evil conservatives" or Jesus freaks or the ones that imply that anyone who doesn't vote democrat is a racist. I insult and impugn their intelligence. I take the time to tell them I dislike them and their blatant hypocrisy when they always bitch about compromise and getting along yet spout hateful shit all day. Then I end with a fuck you. Posted by: Mr Pink at November 05, 2013 10:30 AM (OE6nK) I like how you think.

165 Most of the millennial generation can't remember what a stable, safe, and happy society feels like. Their formative years weren't Reagan/Bush, but Clinton and everything after. Their world is one where America has always been dysfunctional, in decline and retreat, and where it's always been the bad guy. Their reality was never two parents working to keep a comfortable roof over their kids' heads, but of divorces, apartments, and government "aid".
To a millennial, nothing is solid, nothing is forever, and nothing is guaranteed - except that government check. They take what they can get now, and nuts to later.

Posted by: Cato at November 05, 2013 10:57 AM (i+Vw2)

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Very well stated.

166 For EC
http://www.bijin-snap.com/2013/11/06/no-1076/

167 Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 10:54 AM (9jfyN)


Well if I wanted to eat at her restaurant I would have drive for 3 hours.

168 157 Roy,

which will be saved by the baked in the cake bailout....

whee thanks progtards

169 Highway and infrastructure spending has decline about 30% under Obama. Posted by: Flatbush ---------------------------- Yes, but... Solar Panels!

170 Hey what ever happened to all the anti war marches?

171 I was born in '82 and half of the people who write about that kinda crap always try to turn me into a millennial. As far as I see it, I turned 18 before the millennium rolled over (in '01, not '00), so that makes me Gen X. You're (techincally) a Millenial, if you're going by what has become the stadnard measuring stick, which is Strauss and Howe. See here: http://tinyurl.com/aavxmj But.... What makes you GEN X is your attitude. That matters more than anything else. So yeah, attitudinally, you're GEN X. Technically, I'm the last year of the baby Boom, but I've always considered myself GEN X (or what Strauss and Howe call "13ers') in temperament. ....mostly because I paid the price for the idiocy of Boomers.

172

That is the best article I've read in a long time.  More of this, please.  Using the Conrad Dobler tact may be the best way to cleave the young from the Democratic Party.

173 Highway and infrastructure spending has decline about 30% under Obama.

Posted by: Flatbush

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How can that be?  I thought the whole point of Stimulus 1 was infrastructure.

174 138 Am I in a parallel reality where Gen-Xers supported Reagan? Every generation was more liberal when they had just got out of theliberal boot camp we call school. Considering the total bitch slapping Reagan gave both of his opponents (3 if you count Anderson) there were a whole hell of a lot of young people voting for him, myself included. You don't win 49 out of 50 states without broad across-the-generations support. You are correct about every generation becoming more liberal than the last, but since Reagan's days, the yoots have ramped it into hyperdrive.

175 167 Vic,

well the metaphorical you and me but "yeah"...

gotta love the scolding wait staff

176 I'd add "their parents didn't take them to church", but that's just me.
Posted by: mama winger
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I can agree with that.

I don't go to church now.

But my ass was in the pew every Sunday as long as I was living under my parent's roof.

The ones I see in the "endless circle of no success" mostly didn't go to church, either as a kid.

177

Liberalism is a bit like being a homo joy boy, you have all the right people interested in you for all the wrong reasons. Suck it Millennials, and don't forget to praise your master.  

178 I take the time to tell them I dislike them and their blatant hypocrisy when they always bitch about compromise and getting along yet spout hateful shit all day. Then I end with a fuck you. Posted by: Mr Pink at November 05, 2013 10:30 AM (OE6nK) Cut. Jib. Newsletter?

179 In addition to his expertise at winning hearts and minds, he's also a world-class bully on twitter (yes, yes, I hate that word too but in this case it's appropriate). Posted by: Created Or Saved at November 05, 2013 11:01 AM (iJ3YG) Its the right thing to do and not doing that is why being a rabid leftist is OK seemingly in public.

180 Gen X backed Reagan....we were the most conservative 20 year olds in generations

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 10:58 AM (9jfyN)

 

Yeah, I see that now.  Who knows?  Maybe the generation after this one will be conservative again.

181 I'll tell you how it is that the Millennials* got that way: It's their parents. I don't know how many of these lazy bastards had a physical labor job at any point in their life--or any job before college, for that matter. None had hard jobs growing up, were never forced to do anything hard by their parents, and they were spoiled by the leftist TV/Hollywood lie of "do this fun thing that you love and you'll make lots of money." Lemme clamber up on the Awesome Stepstool of Awesomeness and bitch that the reason why Millenials didn't have a physical labor job or any kind of job before college is because everyone was told that the only possible way for a child to succeed in life was to go to the best college possible and the only way to get into the best college possible was to meet the ludicrous admissions requirements that you show that you did something socially aware and justicey and thus instead of getting a job, kids were shuttled off to bullshit "charity" work and crammed into as many extra curricular activities as possible because gotta have that awesome CV dontcha know. I've screeched before how a kid putting down worked three years at Burger King on an average of 15-20 hours during the school year and 40 hours during breaks and was promoted from register to shift leader to assistant manager will get circular filed over the kid who synergized social media to promote awareness of breast cancer in the transgendered community with a focus on integrating community support and affirmative wellness programs. *stares down*
Bannion, little help getting down, please?

182 How can that be? I thought the whole point of Stimulus 1 was infrastructure union/crony payoff. Posted by: mama FIFY. It is also worth noting that nearly 1 trillion of our record-setting debt is from stimulus spending. Jobs created? Nil

183 Stop running candidates who want anti oral sex laws.

184 I liked the US better before, it seems, teenage females and the mob teamed up to run things.

185 I'm expecting the next crop of interns will be willing to do anything to improve their lot in live...  The Soviets had it right...  The young hottie proles will drop their undies just to bypass the queues

186 164 I personally have stopped being nice in my day to day life and Facebook to people I know who rant about "evil conservatives" or Jesus freaks or the ones that imply that anyone who doesn't vote democrat is a racist. I insult and impugn their intelligence. I take the time to tell them I dislike them and their blatant hypocrisy when they always bitch about compromise and getting along yet spout hateful shit all day. Then I end with a fuck you.
Posted by: Mr Pink at November 05, 2013 10:30 AM (OE6nK)



I like how you think. Posted by: artisanal 'ette

Me, too. I'm not a bad guy. I was raised to treat people by how they behaved- not what they look like. Neither one of My Dead Wives suffered fools gladly and they seemed to like me fine. I've had gay neighbors, friends, and relatives. I took a small part in the Civil Rights movement in Georgia. Yet all I hear for the Left is what a rotten, intolerant SOB I am. I'm tired of it.

187 A major Democratic Party benefactor and Obama campaign bundler helped pay for professional petition circulators responsible for getting Virginia Libertarian gubernatorial candidate Robert C. Sarvis on the ballot — a move that could split conservative votes in a tight race. Campaign finance records show the Libertarian Booster PAC has made the largest independent contribution to Sarvis’ campaign, helping to pay for professional petition circulators who collected signatures necessary to get Sarvis’ name on Tuesday’s statewide ballot. Austin, Texas, software billionaire Joe Liemandt is the Libertarian Booster PAC’s major benefactor. He’s also a top bundler for President Barack Obama. This revelation comes as Virginia voters head to the polls Tuesday in an election where some observers say the third-party gubernatorial candidate could be a spoiler for Republican Ken Cuccinelli But of course

188 179 Mr Pink,

yup....they need blown off the plate

189  Most of the millennial generation can't remember what a stable, safe,
and happy society feels like. Their formative years weren't Reagan/Bush,
but Clinton and everything after. Their world is one where America has
always been dysfunctional, in decline and retreat, and where it's always
been the bad guy. Their reality was never two parents working to keep a
comfortable roof over their kids' heads, but of divorces, apartments,
and government "aid".
To a millennial, nothing is solid, nothing is
forever, and nothing is guaranteed - except that government check. They
take what they can get now, and nuts to later.

Posted by: Cato at November 05, 2013 10:57 AM (i+Vw2)


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Very well stated.

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 11:01 AM (P6QsQ)

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And tragic.  I mourn for my country.

190 I love the smell of Reality in the morning.

191 ... did any one mention that Obama knows Jay-Z ?

192 117 if it's an expensive restaurant, take home tips w/o taxation, she could be earning more than entry level public educators. And it isn't as if she's stuck unable to keep networking towards whatever her career dream.

193 Stop running candidates who want anti oral sex laws. Heh.

194 Bannion, little help getting down, please? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 05, 2013 11:06 AM (VtjlW) Of course my Queen. Hop on my back. I actually on a scholarship eval committee for a kid coming to Boston University whose "volunteer work" included teaching English in Chile for a summer. At age 17. Uh huh....riiiiiiiight. We awarded him no points, and may God have mercy on his soul.

195 There are always bright bulbs in a generation or even profession of dim ones.

Posted by: CAC at November 05, 2013 10:53 AM (FHy6p)

 

I've mentioned this before, but   in my experience there are two types of    Millenials:   those who work hard and have genuine ambition and drive, and those who are the very embodiment of the    entitlement mentality.   There seems to be very little overlap between the two, though the latter likes to pretend they are part of the former group.    

 

You can tell the difference easily:   the Good Millennials are the ones who, when they receive a bad score on a college exam or essay, ask the   instructor, "I don't understand what I did wrong.  Can you    explain?   I don't want to    get a bad grade on this again."   

 

The Bad Millennials are the ones who will go to the instructor and say, "Why'd you give me an F!?  I never get Fs!   I'm getting As in every other class, you're the ONLY one that failed me!     I tried really hard!   This isn't fair!"

 

The Good Millennial recognizes that they EARNED their grade, and can improve    it through their own work.    The Bad Millennial   believes the instructor arbitrarily   GAVE THEM their grade, and that it's up to the    instructor to make it    better.

 

These    mindsets    have    been present in every generation to some extent,   but with the Millennials it's   more prevalent than ever before.  The lines between the two are much more   stark and vivid, and there's not a lot of criss-crossing from one   side to the other.

196

FIFY.
It is also worth noting that nearly 1 trillion of our record-setting debt is from stimulus spending. Jobs created? Nil

Posted by: Brky at November 05, 2013 11:06 AM (aDwsi)

You do realize that $800+ billion of spending has been included in every CR since.

Try $4.0+ billion for zero jobs created.

197 I've screeched before how a kid putting down worked three years at Burger King on an average of 15-20 hours during the school year and 40 hours during breaks and was promoted from register to shift leader to assistant manager will get circular filed over the kid who synergized social media to promote awareness of breast cancer in the transgendered community with a focus on integrating community support and affirmative wellness programs. *stares down* Bannion, little help getting down, please? You should be able to float down like an angel after that.

198 Gen X backed Reagan....we were the most conservative 20 year olds in generations

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 10:58 AM (9jfyN)

My first vote was for Reagan in 84. The girl I was dating got screaming mad at me. Didn't I know that he wanted to blow up the world? If he wanted to do that why hasn't he done it already. He wanted to get reelected. If his main goal is to blow up the world why would he care about getting reelected. You just don't understand. I laughed in her face and said You're right, I don't understand how anyone can believe someone so stupid

199 kid who synergized social media to promote awareness of breast cancer in the transgendered community with a focus on integrating community support and affirmative wellness programs. Well done/ You could be making the really BIG bucks working for some PR outfit in the Obama administration. Or How about head speechwriter or Press secretary -if you like selling your soul.

200

Lemme clamber up on the Awesome Stepstool of Awesomeness and bitch that the reason why Millenials didn't have a physical labor job or any kind of job before college is because everyone was told that the only possible way for a child to succeed in life was to go to the best college possible and the only way to get into the best college possible was to meet the ludicrous admissions requirements that you show that you did something socially aware and justicey and thus instead of getting a job, kids were shuttled off to bullshit "charity" work and crammed into as many extra curricular activities as possible because gotta have that awesome CV dontcha know.

 

 

This x infinity ^ infinity+1

201 I am an early Gen-Xer and you hippies scared me with your in-school drug freakouts and stupid looking Cracker fros.     I got my hair cut and voted Reagan to piss you off.  

202 Voting for a democrat doesn't make you fucking smarter, doesn't mean you are automatically are not a racist, and definitely doesn't mean you care about your fellow man more than anyone else. It just means you are a fucking idiot.

203 Fortunately for Reagan,  the press did not cover for Carter to the extent they do democrats now  and besides being a gigantic domestic failure,   his  incompetence and general  pussiness with Iran turned off a  every generation.  Don't forget the Olympic boycott.    

204 Guys I think you've gotten the wrong idea. When I said "it's sarcastic and insulting," that wasn't a value judgment. I'm just explaining how the #caring hashtag is deployed. Like: Fetch me my latte, Prog-Surf. I'm going to Cabo on your health-care subsidy dime #caring It's a neutral explanation of how you can add this funny thing into your own conversations. I think it's funny. I wasn't saying "This is bad." I was just neutrally, factually explaining the usage of the hashtag.

205 The youngsters are calling it anecdotal and incorrect. -------- They're just still in denial. I'd refer people to that SG-1 episode where Posted by: Purp at November 05, 2013 10:46 AM (fZ2Zr) I think it's worse than denial. They do not have the (critical) skills to think this stuff through. I really believe they cannot comprehend or grasp it.

206 prog-serf I meant #caring about #spelling

207 I have a conservative friend who is close to retirement. He delights in telling Millennials that he'll be vacationing on the Social Security taxes they pay, and that the benefits won't be there for them when they retire.

But hey, isn't Obama cool? 

208 Stop running candidates who want anti oral sex laws. Posted by: genew

Stop listening to ads that you know aren't true.

209 ** Their world is one where America has always been dysfunctional, in decline and retreat, and where it's always been the bad guy. ** No, their problem is that they've never lived in a civilisation which faced a serious existential threat. They don't care that people are having their phones tapped; their tax histories run through for the tiniest mistakes on the basis of what they said about the President on TV; etc. That's something which happens to the enemies of the worthless charlatan they acclaimed their God.

210 My first vote was for Reagan in 84. The girl I was dating got screaming mad at me. Didn't I know that he wanted to blow up the world? If he wanted to do that why hasn't he done it already. He wanted to get reelected. If his main goal is to blow up the world why would he care about getting reelected. You just don't understand. I laughed in her face and said You're right, I don't understand how anyone can believe someone so stupid Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 05, 2013 11:09 AM (1Jaio) That was my first vote as well. I was so afraid to "come out" to my hardcore Dem parents, it took me a couple years of sitting silent during family get-togethers while they bashed Repubs. Finally one day I'd had enough and quietly piped up, "you know, not EVERYone at this table is a Democrat." You could have heard a pin drop. My mother got all "I'm so ashamed." You'd think I had just confessed to a string of mass murders.

211 Put enough welfare kids in their schools so that it is 30-50% poor kids and watch them run. --- Social justice is neither. Which reminds me, what the hell is that "social recidivism" that Biden was talking about yesterday at the McAuliffe pep rally?

212 "Now get off my lawn!" I teach writing and I'll use this one as an example of a great clincher closing. He embraces the stereotype of the angry old man conservative and shoves it in their face.

213

I love this article thank you for posting it!  Oh, and I prefer referring to the millenials as the proletariat.  Prog-serf is a good one too.

214 Sadly, unremitting national prosperity leads to a weak society. On the plus side, the Democrats are fixing that.

215 We awarded him no points, and may God have mercy on his soul.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 05, 2013 11:08 AM (JpC1K)

Parents buying "experience" for their college-bound kids.

The good thing is that more and more colleges see through that shit.

216 I am an early Gen-Xer and you hippies scared me with your in-school drug freakouts and stupid looking Cracker fros. I got my hair cut and voted Reagan to piss you off. Posted by: Beagle at November 05, 2013 11:10 AM (sOtz/) To paraphrase PJ O'Rourke when he was on an Aegis cruiser - This is being run by high school kids who took one look at the hippie wastes who surrounded them and said get me a hair cut and a job.

217

But hey, isn't Obama cool?

 

 

Bill Clinton was the one who made us that promise.

218 This is the key phrase right here: Your time in the indoctrination factories of academia trained you in a form of “critical thinking” that is neither. I can hardly blame young people for something that was done *to* them. I'm much more pissed at liberals my own age who ought to be old enough to know better. I like the letter, though. It's an example of "tough love". I've read Strauss & Howe, too. Keep an eye on those Millennials. They may end up surprising us. Every generation has its good and bad eggs. Some of the Baby Boomers fought in Vietnam, and then were spit on by other Baby Boomers when they got home.

219 Fortunately for Reagan, the press did not cover for Carter to the extent they do democrats now ... ------------- There could be no cover, gasoline prices soared, interest rates of 13%, our embassy in Tehran seized. Obama's moves are slow-motion, and include the positive feedback of a poisoned society.

220 51 So it turns out Obama is finally getting the massive tax hike he's always wanted. He's just calling it "insurance." --- Most people would call that a "protection racket".

221 Bend over honey, you've got a student loan to pay and my health care to subsidize. Besides, I am also paying for your birth control.
#caring

222 Someone should post this on reddit and watch the meltdown commence Posted by: brak at November 05, 2013 10:51 AM (M2qTM) yes then, my husband would see it

223 why would you care if your phone is tapped if you are going to post every detail of your life on facebook?

224 No, their problem is that they've never lived in a civilisation which faced a serious existential threat. 9/11 happened, and a lot of the people fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq were millennials. Let's bear that in mind.

225 Whatever it means, t's sarcastic and insulting.

And awesome.


Rule 4. I am not paying for your health insurance. Buy a policy. Why.....cause contrary to what your professors will tell you, health insurance is not a right. Nor do you have a right to a car, cell phone, cable, lattes, gas, crap shirts from Ambercrombie or whatever the hell else you are entitled to along with a "living wage".

The guy whose code I periodically rip to shreds has two sons, ages 21 and 24, and he buys all that shit for them.  The younger is still in college (studying what, I don't know) and the other is "between jobs" (although as far as I can tell he hasn't had that first job yet) since graduating and refuses to even consider using his B.A. in English to take a "teach English in Asia" job just for something to do for a year, even though he's lived a couple of different Asian countries courtesy of his father's jobs and still has family in the Philippines.  I have zero respect for this guy, even when his code meets the requirements.

I  made some shitty choices when I was younger and lived in my sister's basement for six weeks, trading childcare and chores for room and board and stocking shelves at the local outlet mall for gas money to get to job interviews...and that sucked so much ass I took that first software contract offered, in the Milwaukee ghetto.  Which turned out to be a good job, loved the city, turned my life way around.  And then they elected SCOAMF, and I got laid off, and took a temporary job 800 miles away and slept on an air mattress, and eventually ended up in this "good job" in Indiana with "healthcare" but not enough vacation days to ever get to leave the state again after this Christmas and one day my boss is going to come in and find me hanging by the neck from an ethernet cable in the software lab, but hey, I'm not living in my sister's fucking basement.

Anyway, tldr, I really have no fucking sympathy for fucking millenials and their fucking Chipotle, whining that they might have to do something mildly unpleasant to keep themselves alive.

226 Warden, I just wanted to thank you again for your post-election "Where do we go from here?" post. I printed that out back then and re-read it from time to time, and just did so again this morning. As a writer myself, I know how good it feels to know that something you've written has touched those who read it. So thank you. It was a fantastic piece filled with great advice.

227 The demographics of the election data are more troubling...it's facile to say that Millennials broke for Obama. White male Millennials (though the hipster types can be the most irritating subspecies) broke for Romney, but they didn't vote in large numbers nor do they comprise a large percentage of this cohort. All other Millennials broke for Obama by huge margins--what I've been calling the B-H-0-SB Grievance coalition, the most "discriminated against" of the population subset. Blacks voted 103% for Obama, while Hispanics and Orientals broke to Obama 80-20--these two groups are largely motivated by envy and by "recovered memories" of racism in school. SB (Stupid Bitches), which overlap, broke largely for Obama--being young, stupid women, they gravitate toward a strong, inspiring male figure (I know, I know). The good news is I don't think the Grievance Coalition will hold as strongly for Clinton in 16.

228

Schlichster's  note to millennials is what we used  to call "tough love." Or to put  it   a different   way, "You fucked up:  you   trusted Dimocrats."

 

I hope they feel all cool and shit.

229 204 Ace,

No, I got you.

Friends of mine say you are an acquired taste, of course so am I....aren't we all?

230 Too many young adults have swallowed the "good old days" revisionist account of how easy it was for their parents to get started out of school. Recessions recur regularly. Boom or Bust. Brats always blame someone else for their woes. Mental juveniles blame mommy and daddy. pfft. Ruin has been coming down the pike since Wilson. Authoritarianism is illegitimate. Take aim at the enemy target: authoritarianism in power. It isn't as if the younger generation was the only voting block that put Obama into office. Kurt Schlichter's scared of being labeled antisemitic if he were to point out that the liberal Jewish voting blocks in major metropolitan regions voted for "my name is blessed Barack". So they have voters remorse to the degree that their old comedians come out of the woodwork to chew on the insane liar in the Oval Office they elect/re-elect. The elephant in the room? The college youth vote '12 was with the GOP candidate Ron Paul.

231 Row faster!  Faster!  We need to get up on plane!

232

"Highway and infrastructure spending has decline about 30% under Obama."

 

=======

 

Good, because you can add "highway and infrastructure spending" as example 44,980,623 to the list of things the federal government can't do well.

233

"By the way, #caring is the hashtag Schlichter uses, constantly, to express... I'm not sure actually. He's either mocking liberals for falsely believing they #care so much, or he's expressing his own lack of #caring. Or both. Whatever it means, it's sarcastic and insulting."

 

And well it should be.  I believe he's mocking their so-called caring, not parading his own lack thereof.  Conservatives don't turn to the government to do their charity work, they do their own.

234 Sean Bannion What kinds of things are you looking for in scholarship evals? Have a young son who is extremely smart , (kinda think he was switched at birth) And he's gonna need some financial boosts for college .

235 Anyway, tldr, I really have no fucking sympathy for fucking millenials and their fucking Chipotle, whining that they might have to do something mildly unpleasant to keep themselves alive. Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is sick at November 05, 2013 11:15 AM (ZKzrr) That was an MWR-quality rant. ::: swoon ::: Lemon square?

236 How can that be? I thought the whole point of Stimulus 1 was infrastructure.

Welfare infrastructure.  Construction jobs are too male.

237 I'd add "their parents didn't take them to church", but that's just me. Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 10:54 AM (P6QsQ) Discipline in itself. When I was very young, I just day-dreamed throughout the entire hour. But, as I got older, I began to feel the difference.

238 Guy Fawkes Night, also known as Guy Fawkes Day, Bonfire Night and Firework Night, is an annual commemoration observed on 5 November, primarily in Great Britain.

239 Lemme clamber up on the Awesome Stepstool of Awesomeness and bitch that the reason why Millenials didn't have a physical labor job or any kind of job...

Excellent point.

I also have to wonder how many of those jobs are even available anymore.  How many restaurants employ dishwashers (for instance) who aren't illegals?

240 Lemon square?

Ooh, thank you.

241 reason why Millenials didn't have a physical labor job or any kind of job before college is because everyone was told that the only possible way for a child to succeed in life was to go to the best college possible and the only way to get into the best college possible was to meet the ludicrous admissions requirements that you show that you did something socially aware and justicey and thus instead of getting a job,
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No shit.

It's been lies to them all the way down.

They're going to have a lot of anger. At someone.

And the leftists think they can control this riot? That's the scary part.

The worst among us have stolen their future and sold them into a life of economic slavery . . . .

242 Whatever it means, it's sarcastic and insulting.

Just like me!

243 "Highway and infrastructure spending has decline about 30% under Obama."

Highway spending is linked to gas tax receipts, bad economy depresses gas purchases - then highway cash goes down.  Or, you could claim its the fault of electric cars and demand a blackbox monitoring program for all vehicles like our "Libertarian-Fascist" Sarvis.

244 Yep, life is an IQ test and our nation is failing.

245

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 05, 2013 11:15 AM (/Crba)

 

Ewwwww...

 

/Fade in.... Picture of Chief Justice John Roberts...

"its a Tax...

 

/Fade to a Health Insurance Bill showing the Average 41% increase....

 

/Fade to Obama

 

"I will NOT raise Taxes on the Middle Class...

 

/Fade to Graphic....

 

What else has he lied about....

246 I don't know how it is elsewhere, but in my area of the South, young black men are not all smitten with the Democrat Party and it's 20%+ unemployment policies. I read it as about 50/50 Repub/Dem among that cohort, hard as that may be to believe. The problem is that they are overwhelmed by the black woman's high turnout and 100% Democratic votes.

247 Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is sick at November 05, 2013 11:15 AM (ZKzrr)

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You had me at "Milwaukee".

248 Oh, and what Cato said makes me sad.

Because the hand-to-mouth, "party now, fuck later" attitude is just so damned depressing.
Because I see people who have all the tools and all the support networks they need to be successful adopting it.

249 I was in college during the  Reagan years.  A very conservative business college in MN of all places.... The same college and class as Vince Flynn.  Heady, go go times.  I had a great college experience owing to the fact that I was not being indoctrinated and was, instead, being educated.  The liberals did not fare well on campus.  In my minds eye, every college should be like the one I went to. 

250

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is sick at November 05, 2013 11:15 AM (ZKzrr)

 

*effusive applause*

 

And you'd better NOT go hanging yourself, with an ethernet cord or otherwise, because we NEED you.

251 Bevel, you are spot on. Thanks.

252 Sean Bannion

What kinds of things are you looking for in scholarship evals?

Have a young son who is extremely smart , (kinda think he was switched at birth) And he's gonna need some financial boosts for college . Posted by: Orlandocon ette

For Bannion, enlisted time in a NG mechanized brigade would do

253 Sean Bannion What kinds of things are you looking for in scholarship evals? Have a young son who is extremely smart , (kinda think he was switched at birth) And he's gonna need some financial boosts for college Posted by: Orlandocon ette at November 05, 2013 11:18 AM (SldZ2) Sincerity. Reality. You can talk yourself up, but guilding the lily is not appreciated. Depending on the school/program/major/scholarhip but in general you're looking for someone who has the capacity to succeed so, for me, I always looked for something that demonstrated excellent time management and prioritization skills. 'Cause for most of these kids, freshman year will Blow. Them. Away. No one has ever taught them that they are anything other that the specialest snowflake. So they're not used to the load...or having to perform....or...reality. Frosh year hits everyone hard, so I was always looking for the kid who had demonstrated that he/she had the baseline skills to survive once academic reality set in.

254 This Schlicther is caring in an asskicking sort of way. Don't know if kick butt common sense rinses out brainwash though. Public Ed has produced too many zombies that vote. Great Stuff yesterday btw Ace. Gotta crash now, work the overnite Reviewing your posts when I getup at 7PM is an excellent way to catch up. Far better than the old days of reading the AM paper. It's like re-instituting the old Evening edition with freshly added snark.

255 Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 05, 2013 11:08 AM (JpC1K) You can, in fact, do most of it. My volunteer work listed on my college resume included: Hospital work (Child Life department at a children's hospital), a local foster home type thing and 6 weeks in Honduras at a nutrition center. And I had the job too (for that 6 weeks I just told McD's "listen, I have this thing to do, you can either not schedule me or fire me, but I have to do it.") They opted for the "not schedule" and I stayed there for 2 more years after.

256 I can hardly blame young people for something that was done *to* them. I'm much more pissed at liberals my own age who ought to be old enough to know better.

Posted by: rickl at November 05, 2013 11:14 AM (zoehZ)

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The kids should have known better, too.  Teachers tried to indoctrinate me 20 plus years ago.  I went to the dean's office rather than accept their claptrap.  If I could stand up to left wing NEA teachers, so can kids today.  In fact, it ought to be easier now, given how little punishment is doled out in schools.

257

There could be no cover, gasoline prices soared, interest rates of 13%, our embassy in Tehran seized. Obama's moves are slow-motion, and include the positive feedback of a poisoned society.

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While I think you couldn't be more wrong, it really doesn't matter. 

 

Instead what matters is that there shouldn't be any cover for TFG either, from Benghazi, from the IRS scandal, or from any one of the too numerous to recall assaults on the Constitution:   instead of covering the Presidency,  it's the constant pre-occupation of the national press to protect Obama. 

 

The number of scandals is too big to count, and the danger our economy and alliances are in is unprecedently serious, and yet the press refuses to cover the issues and pundits simply choose  not  to write about the fraying of world relations.  They ignore all sorts of front page screaming headlines, and write about all kinds of minor but complimentary to Obama topics instead.

 

The press purposely does not inform, even though these problems are coming fast and furious (pun intended). 

258 Just got in from voting, I'm in one of NY's rare Republican areas. he only really competitive race was Town Supervisor b/w the GOP and Conservative candidate. I went in to vote for the Conservative, and found to my dismay that she was also on the Democrat and Working Families' Party lines, so I ended up voting for the Republican incumbent. Anyone know what the hell that is about? Conservative candidate just seeking as many lines on the ballot as possible, or a commie plant?

259 Get off my lawn, but first  you  will  mow it.  

260 To paraphrase PJ O'Rourke when he was on an Aegis cruiser - This is being run by high school kids who took one look at the hippie wastes who surrounded them and said get me a hair cut and a job. Posted by: alexthechick ------------------------ To paraphrase Dr. Johnson, having your ass on the line focuses the mind wonderfully. The millennials actually expect external forces to see to their welfare..., and yet, assign no responsibility, culpability or accountability to external forces which are actually standing on them, and which, they have in fact embraced.

261 #care #caremore

262 Jean Heh, will do.

263

I really have no fucking sympathy for fucking millenials and their fucking Chipotle, whining that they might have to do something mildly unpleasant to keep themselves alive.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is sick at November 05, 2013 11:15 AM (ZKzrr)

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I love it when you    talk dirty.

264 For Bannion, enlisted time in a NG mechanized brigade would do Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 11:22 AM (CMlD4) Hey! I did it! My Mom ran out of money. I enlisted USAR the next week. I got out of the contract because while I was at OSUT my active duty ROTC scholarship came through, and that trumped the OSUT contract.

265 >The worst among us have stolen their future and sold them into a life of economic slavery . . . .<

I think that underestimates their inability to care much about anything. They don't, and just keep living off other people's labors.

They're too lazy and ineffectual to care. Thye don't even care we are laughing at them as they shine our shoes.

Provided they get hand outs, free birth control, enough money for drugs/alcohol, cover for the bar, a vacation every so often- they're good since they have no ambitions or drive.

They're a generation of cheap indentured servants for liberal Democrats. And they like the way things are.

266 Get off my lawn, but first you will mow it. Nice. Crossing the memes.

267

I'll say right off the top of my head that it's easier to blame millenials because they don't appear to be in the here and now, what with looking down at their portable idiot boxes constantly.  Used to be you had to go home to watch cartoons or something equally vapid.  Now, between social media and tumblr, and Icanhazwhatevers,  they can be distracted 24/7.

 

But equally true, they didn't get us into this mess, each generation played their part.

268 I think it's worse than denial.

They do not have the (critical) skills to think this stuff through. I really believe they cannot comprehend or grasp it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2013 11:10 AM (IXrOn)

I completely agree with you on this. They've been brainwashed to believe this crap and to reject anything that isn't leftist. They also been told that they are special and perfect, so how can they ever been wrong? It's stupidity wrapped in arrogance

269

Read the comments under stories aof rising insurance premiums, substandard Obamacare plans, etc. The youngsters are calling it anecdotal and incorrect. They really need a good financial ass kicking.

 

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Yep.

Kind of like the New York Times, which all smart people read don't you know, saying Obama "misspoke" about that whole "keep your plan, period" thingy.

When the media is that far gone into what is nothing but excusing liberal radicalism, what do you expect?

270 Lib Author Terry McMillan: Ted Cruz “More Like Hitler”… People who say things that ignorant really should be in jail or dead. Sorry I have no more patience for people like this.

271 Sean, essentially the same here Army Guard Enlisted, Navy ROTC.  Made for a confusing half-press of uniforms at school.

272 The kids should have known better, too. Teachers tried to indoctrinate me 20 plus years ago. ------------------- Nearly every vestige of traditional American thought/philosophy has been stamped out by the Left. The kids have no reference..., no basis, no foundation by which to recognize the flaws inherent in Leftist philosophy. In point of fact, they are co-opted Fellow Travelers.

273 When the media is that far gone into what is nothing but excusing liberal radicalism, what do you expect? Bankruptcy, followed by government bailouts. Because democracy needs a functioning press, don'tchaknow.

274 If I had a dime for every one of these millennial's that came in for a job interview and I promptly kicked out, I could retire.

275

As far as the observation that millenials have never had physical labor jobs, that's true, but not as much for the reason that people think.  It's not that they're lazy by default, but we sent all the factories to China and imported all of our ditch diggers and builders from Mexico...  so there wasn't any place where these people could earn a decent wage while learning by trial and error how the working world actually works.

 

Are they lazy now?  Yes, because the new aristocracy has done all and ought to keep them from ever actually having to work.

276 If I were a student today, I'd be suspended right now

277 Heh. I forgot to add a #caring to one of my comments yesterday where I told the fools who voted after health care passage for either Teh One or their Senators/Representatives to go ahead and buck up and eat your shit sandwich. #caring

278 That was brilliant. I actually think the best way to convert the Millenials is with this type of hard-hitting message. Posted by: McAdams at November 05, 2013 10:57 AM (8Eara) The problem is, so much being said and written is so over the top (see Democrats), that people are just shutting it all out.

279 Remember the scene in Independence Day where the chic watched the alien ship arrive from the roof of the MCA building? She looked up in awe as the ship armed itself and proclaimed, "It's so pretty." Vaporization ensued. Yeah, that's the naive millenial/LIV/Obamabot.

280 Thanks Sean Bannion, He's very young and things can change but his teacher holds him up as an example of "diligence" due to his time usage. So sounds like at this point, he's on the right track.

281 Man, that Brosurance ad is really embarrassing. That's what we've come to? Bro! Bro, did you have a good BM today? Aww, Bro, you gotta take your Metamucil, Bro. Yeah, Bro. Yeah. Cause that's what Bro's do - sit around and talk about health stuff and insurance. #Brosurance

282 @276:  I have no idea how I was never suspended, but that detention hall?  They may as well have put a cot in there for me.

283

Hitler was a big government socialist.  An inconvenient truth.  

284 248 Royal Oil,

they partied hard in Russia in 86, and Chikatilo got girls to make fieldgoal posts for a single smoke....

sounds like here more and more

285 If I had a dime for every one of these millennial's that came in for a job interview and I promptly kicked out, I could retire. Posted by: Marcus at November 05, 2013 11:27 AM (GGCsk) My favorite part of every freshman year was when dozens of these knuckleheads would say, "How can you give me a C-!!! I got a "5" on the AP English exam!" Me: [deadpan] Whoa. Dude. Someone totally cheated you. They told you that you could write. Occaisionally followed by me going all Professor Kingsfield on their ass. "Here's a quarter. Call your mother. Tell her you are unlikely to survive your first semester at Boston University."

286 >The youngsters are calling it anecdotal and incorrect.<

Riiiiight. Little geniuses they are.

Wait until they have to pay the bill, have the IRS chasing them or they need treatment and the only doctor available to them on Obamacare is a Kenyan Witch Doctor.

This ain't some team sport where you cheer for "your guy" and winning or losing has no real material consequences. This is life, and if you choose badly things get ugly and personal real quick.

287

8 "It's sarcastic and insulting..."

 

 

Hand them the book 'Voting for Dummies'.

288 Heh...sent to all the youngins.  They know who they are. Point at them and laugh. Expose their stupidity and laziness.

289 Gay Millenials are getting married in the West Point Chapel.   That  says it all for me.   

290 The church in the town over is having the election day Turkey Dinner (which I swear must have some political snark aside from being a fund raiser) and the church in the next town is having an Election day chili lunch. Politics is one big gaseous mess, Anyway, I will support one or both of them as it amuses me.

291 Some call it The Notch, I call it The Saddle. Posted by: toby928© at November 05, 2013 11:00 AM (QupBk) nice :-)

292 171 I was born in '82 and half of the people who write about that kinda crap always try to turn me into a millennial. As far as I see it, I turned 18 before the millennium rolled over (in '01, not '00), so that makes me Gen X. You're (techincally) a Millenial, if you're going by what has become the stadnard measuring stick, which is Strauss and Howe. See here: http://tinyurl.com/aavxmj But.... What makes you GEN X is your attitude. That matters more than anything else. So yeah, attitudinally, you're GEN X. Technically, I'm the last year of the baby Boom, but I've always considered myself GEN X (or what Strauss and Howe call "13ers') in temperament. ....mostly because I paid the price for the idiocy of Boomers. --- I think I'm technically in the gap between Gen X and Millennials, being born in '80 and thus on the cusp of both. I certainly identify more with Gen X than Millennial. In my case, I guess having a sister who was a few years older and a family that was riding the leading edge of technology at the time (first computer at about 3, typing all my school papers by 10 because my handwriting sucked) meant that I was more aware of my surrounding younger than a lot of other people my age.

293

And Folks.... we are doing EXACTLY what the left does... its just our whippin dog is the Group called Millenials...

 

I got a really novel concept... how about we treat individuals as individuals, and not blame them for actions of OTHERS that WE decide are in the same group?

 

Judge by the Content of their Character, not the.... year they were born?

294 Burr (R-NC) is up. RINO. I despise the guy. Now challenging O'care, but supported cloture vote. Ball-less mealy-mouthed, politician. Nowhere to be found when the chips were down.

295  My company staffs some positions with part time employment. There are some Millenials who have been working for us 6-7 years part time. These are people with college degrees. Usually they have some girlfriend or boyfriend who works part times well.

These people are fucked. Sure they can afford beer money, iPhones and rent. But they'll never be able to afford homes and children at the rate their going.

296 Get off my lawn, but first you will mow it. Did that job. $2 for front, $2 for back, $1 for hand trimming. Early to mid '70's.

297 291 Some call it The Notch, I call it The Saddle. Posted by: toby928© at November 05, 2013 11:00 AM (QupBk) nice :-) --- I'm baaaaaaaack! I'm back in the saddle again!

298 Orlandocon ette, plan way ahead.  Think about what states make the best sense.  My kids have a friend whose parents pre-paid his Florida 4 year tuition already.

299 Bro! Hey, Bro...Bro, that looks like some kinda rash on your elbow. Yeah, Bro. Right there. See? Lemme rub some ointment on that for you. Whoa, Bro. Not cool, Bro. Cause that's what Bro's do for their Bro's. Rub ointment on their Bro's rashes and talk about insurance. #Brosurance

300 Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 05, 2013 11:30 AM (JpC1K) At least I always knew my writing was the suck (although it got better once people started to care and help me with it, something that Pre-Meds don't get, they get a pat on the head and a "it's OK, doctors don't write." Seriously.)

301 Millenials who graduate w $200K student loan debt from an advanced degree in a discipline that gets them a job at the local Publix will eventually see the light, I hope. I know that some are finally cognizant of the fact that nothing will let them escape the student debt which equates to never owning a home or a decent car. I, also, know one who has come to realize that he may never be able to afford the "luxury" of a family w children because of a law degree that no longer opens any doors.

302

I think I'm technically in the gap between Gen X and Millennials, being born in '80 and thus on the cusp of both. I certainly identify more with Gen X than Millennial.

 

I was born in '79, and I honestly don't relate to either Gen Xers    or Millennials.      Gen Xers have always struck me as the whiniest, most slovenly people I've ever had the misfortune of dealing with, while   my Millennial experience I've already detailed above.   

 

I don't know what the heck I am,   so I just call myself the generation time forgot.

303 My kids both worked starting at ages 14 and  16 respectively.  My son's first job was cleaning goose poop at the local beach.  Daughter worked the shoe department at WalMart thru high school and college, while cleaning houses on the side.  Grand total of my combined contributions to their college costs were about $2000.  The rest they came up with on their own.  I don't believe either one of them ever skipped a class if they could possibly help it.  They both vote conservative.

304 I really have no fucking sympathy for fucking millenials and their fucking Chipotle, whining that they might have to do something mildly unpleasant to keep themselves alive. Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is sick at November 05, 2013 11:15 AM (ZKzrr) *shoves all the chocolate through the usb port*

305 Judge by the Content of their Character, not the.... year they were born? Posted by: Romeo13 at November 05, 2013 11:32 AM (lZBBB) I think we do that pretty well in meatspace. It's the left that has Hayek's "fatal conceit" problem regardless of venue. Not us.

306 Ah all my Liberals relatives at thanksgiving can talk about their pal obama all they want, but I am the only there with a Health Insurance plan with a $200 (family)monthly premium, only a $200 deductible and I can go to anyone I want and any hospital I want. So they can all go choke on that.

307 Michael Ramirez cartoon on "Affordable care" http://tinyurl.com/pfgapct Hang in there everyone-and not literally. ;^) See you later.

308 Posted by: Warden at November 05, 2013 11:32 AM (bmp0d) Please don't remind me. I have a house and no comment on the second part, and can barely afford it. If not for the wife's luck (and the luck that my old lab manager listed to Rush Limbaugh and heard the commercial advertising for jobs) I'd be fucked over seriously. And yes, it is ironic that 90% of my household income comes from the DoD, such is life.

309

 only doctor available to them on Obamacare is a Kenyan Witch Doctor.

 

 

Posted by: Marcus at November 05, 2013 11:31 AM (GGCsk)

 

 

You put the lime, in the coconut.... and call me in the morning...

310 My younger brother does job interviews at the company he works for.  The Engineering graduates have been told that they can write their own ticket.  So they show up expecting to hire on at $100K a year starting and never have to travel.  He tells them that that simply is not going to happen anywhere.



The college professors are lying to their students.

311 "Here's a quarter. Call your mother. Tell her you are unlikely to survive your first semester at Boston University." Posted by: Sean Bannion

If you want to be an English professor at El Cid, let me know.  I know the academic recruiters.

312 >My favorite part of every freshman year was when dozens of these knuckleheads would say, "How can you give me a C-!!! I got a "5" on the AP English exam!" <

Some of these kids come from major universities. By the time we're done talking I call HR to verify their credentials.

Apparently $100k worth of education doesn't buy what it once did.

Which would at a minimum be critical thinking skills, basic mastery of English diction and some type of command over the skills for which their degree was allegedly granted.

More kids should be subjected to your does of reality. They would be better for it.

313 If I were a student today, I'd be suspended right now Posted by: Nevergiveup If I had my son in public school he'd been in jail right now, everything, and I do mean everything looks like a gun to him and everyone is a bad guy...

314 296 Get off my lawn, but first you will mow it. Did that job. $2 for front, $2 for back, $1 for hand trimming. Early to mid '70's. Posted by: rickb223 -------------------- Last kid that came by (10 years ago) offered to cut my front lawn, maybe 100' x 50', for $20. I was speechless. I offered $10..., no go. Screw you kid. An early example of rising expectations.

315

@292:  I wonder if computers early in life make you more conservative?  It certainly worked to create bigger awareness of the world with me.  Granted, a lot of the early computer games had a weird habit of teaching you stuff you didn't know about as you played too...

 

Or maybe it's just that the kinds of computers we started with don't care how you feel or what your opinion is, you only get out what you put in, and you only get anything good if you put it in correctly.

316 @310 I'm seeing grade inflation even among the engineering student candidates. I keep asking for detailed grade data through our pipeline schools but am getting the Heisman.

317 276 If I were a student today, I'd be suspended right now
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Sometimes I dream about the day I have secured enough money and clients I'll go back to these public universities, take the most leftist class and ruin the fukc out of it for the little Mao running the show.

I did it a bit when I was there as a lad, but only subversive "who me?" type shit.

Helping classmates write history papers cribbed from David Horowitz; writing about John Wayne in a "focus on women in literature" class.

318 What a great article. Burr? What a disappointment. I should of had a clue. His dad was a Methodist minister, not exactly a hot bed of capitalism in his home I suspect.

319 Fraudulently elected stoner Democrat Franken up.

320 Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 11:33 AM (P6QsQ) My parents divided the cost they contributed into two pools. $1500 they paid during the last two years of college as a kind of "gift." And about $10k in housing. They're paying that though because they're counting it as a mistake. I had originally considered living at home, they convinced me to live on campus, it was a disaster (I had an alcoholic roommate possibly selling drugs out of the room and using it for constant hookups until I moved about 2 months in). I moved home after that. Since I originally didn't want that debt they're eating it right now in hopes I'll be able to help them in old age.)

321 *dose.

And I should spell check better on this ancient blog technology which is akin to cave wall writing.

Sorry Pixie.

322

@MWR:  So maybe that's it.  Maybe we're the sane crack between the weird people?

323

Because nothing - NOTHING I TELLS YA - makes this 24 y/o underemployed graduate more amenable to conservatism like condescension. I'm too socially liberal/moderate for most of y'all anyway, but this kind of establishment, house trained conservatism makes me sick. You're the righteous versions of the people fellating themselves for taking on the Catholic Church (not that it doesn't frequently deserve it) while studiously ignoring Islam.

 

It's like with the people going into raptures over their  - quasi legal at best - cheap, pliable foreign labour and cheap China made products while in the next breath berating my generation for being lazy. The US could do okay - not optimally, not entirely morally, but okay - with its current socialist/corporatist "let's bribe people not to riot" model, if it hadn't imported people who can't handle it. Norway, and the Scandi countries, muddled through with something similar until they started to, uh, increase their diversity. Take the population that landed in Massachusetts - hell, take the pre 1965 population - and you'd be fine.

 

But naw, let's patronise a bunch of earnest young white people - thinking stochastically, they're the ones being addressed here - who really do mean well, while ignoring the demographic disaster. That'll bring them over to your side.

324 Cool! Weasel Zippers just used my suggestion to post the Obama/Bill Russell hug pic as a "caption this" post. (I'm known as "tacitus" over there.)

325 Lovettsville precinct in Loudoun Co. is still IT challenged, as is a good part of the county. But, the son and I did our duty, both the right way. Now all that's left is tonight to lie back and think of England.

326 @292: I wonder if computers early in life make you more conservative? It certainly worked to create bigger awareness of the world with me. Granted, a lot of the early computer games had a weird habit of teaching you stuff you didn't know about as you played too... --- It didn't directly play a part. HOWEVER, I had my "idiot moment" with regard to politics at age 12 with Clinton, realized I got lied to very quickly, and watched a lot of went on for the next 8 years as a result. As a result, I was far beyond the curve on politics when they tried to bring the same playbook out for Gore, Kerry, and Obama.

327 I was born in '79, and I honestly don't relate to either Gen Xers or Millennials. Gen Xers have always struck me as the whiniest, most slovenly people I've ever had the misfortune of dealing with, while my Millennial experience I've already detailed above. I don't know what the heck I am, so I just call myself the generation time forgot. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at November 05, 2013 11:33 AM (4df7R) I was born a decade before you (waits for it as the Horde does that math) and I consider myself up end Gen X. It is interesting to recall that everything I and others say about the Millenials was said about Gen X. After all, Gen X was slacker nation. I'm taking a wait and see attitude on the Millenials, in the midst of bitching about them, because growing up is really hard and sometimes the Universe has to smack the stupid out of you.

328 The college professors are lying to their students.

The false advertising that colleges get away with would put any other business under an FTC consent order.

329 Nip Sip - I wrote Burr an insistent note that he vote against cloture on the House reconciliation bill. When he voted for it anyhow, I sent another note asking why I should not simply vote for a Democrat. No answer.

330 If you want to be an English professor at El Cid, let me know. I know the academic recruiters. Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 11:36 AM (CMlD4) They wouldn't hire me. No PhD. Only 3 Master's degrees. Taught History, MilSci and International Relations. Since you have to write - a lot - in all of those majors I was usually their first introduction to someone telling them what a topic sentence and theme development was all about. Shit, this is stuff I learned as a HS sophomore. for some reason, they passed HS without a concept of it all. .....But I DO loves me some Charleston.

331 The Des Moines woman who became an Internet sensation after being videotaped in a fountain at a Kansas City Royals game has been granted unemployment benefits after being fired from her banking job because of the incident.

http://is.gd/XBst9W

...guess what I'm doing the next time I need six months off!

*eats all the chocolate*

332 @276: I have no idea how I was never suspended, but that detention hall? They may as well have put a cot in there for me.

Posted by: Cato at November 05, 2013 11:30 AM (i+Vw2)

 

I got sent to Dean because apparently a first year English professor didn't quite like my sarcasm.   It  was not political in  nature though.  

 

Also the only 'C'  I received in a college course was in Economics my sophomore year.   Douchebag professor had a rule  that if you were late to the class you could not stay.   One day I  had an emergency that made me a few minutes late after he had closed the door.   I  went  in  anyway in the back unnoticed by the class.    He  though  stopped his   lecture  and told me to leave.   I respectfully told him No.  I paid for the class and I was not leaving.  I guess it never happened to him before because he seemed like he wanted to say something but just continued the class.   I figured I screwed myself  and I did. 

333 Jean at November 05, 2013 11:32 Have been thinking about the pre-paid deal, but am really worried it won't be there when he needs. Can't figure WHY I don't trust Govt with my money, must be something I heard somewhere once?

334 315
Last kid that came by (10 years ago) offered to cut my front lawn, maybe 100' x 50', for $20. I was speechless. I offered $10..., no go. Screw you kid. An early example of rising expectations.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 11:37 AM (aDwsi)

LOL, I offered a kid $30 to mow my yard.  He said it wasn't enough.  with the side yard I have 1.5 ares. This was about 10 years ago.

335

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 05, 2013 11:38 AM (GaqMa)

 

My son is USN, and plans on using the new GI bill when he gets out in 3 years...

 

I told him before he went in that I would always have a Bedroom for him, wherever I lived... as long as it was him, and not him, a wife, and a kid....

 

that way he will have his living expense money to actually live on.... because I did not want my children saddled with College debt, as they try to start their lives...

336 Suck it, Millies.

Obamacare is a crap sandwich.  If we have to eat it, I hope all the Obama voters get double helpings with extra crap sauce.

337 "Because nothing - NOTHING I TELLS YA - makes this 24 y/o underemployed graduate more amenable to conservatism like condescension." So you'll stop voting for idiot liberal candidates that are destroying your future if we stop condescending to you? "I'm too socially liberal/moderate for most of y'all anyway" Oh wait - I guess not. Thanks to your votes, you'll stay unemployed, but at least you can marry someone of the same sex.

338 Last kid that came by (10 years ago) offered to cut my front lawn, maybe 100' x 50', for $20. I was speechless. I offered $10..., no go. Screw you kid. An early example of rising expectations. Oh, and three bucks to shovel snow. Front walk, steps, porch. Had regular customers summer & winter.

339 Oh, best part of the college roommate story. You can only live with that shit for so long, so when I finally broke down in the chaplin's office about how miserable I was, she tried to help by getting him busted (since I knew where all the booze was.) Res-Life told him that I had turned him in. He got drunk that night and threatened to "make me pay." Luckily I had anticipated this and fled to a friends couch (a friend only a few people knew I had and those few weren't telling.) And then fled the campus for the rest of the weekend. Res-Life still wouldn't authorize an emergency move after that until we threatened to sue claiming they were no longer living up to the agreement to provide "a safe living environment." It was a clusterfuck.

340

"Whatever it means, t's sarcastic and insulting."

 

I like sarcastic and insulting. We need more of it. Screw charm offensives. Just be offensive. No more nice. Give it to them straight.

341

I'm too socially liberal/moderate for most of y'all anyway

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Maybe the "most" qualifier saves it, but I don't think that's true.   If you support shrinking the Leviathan State I  figure most people  here  will make a deal.  

 

If by socially liberal you mean abortion up to and past birth, yeah.  The older I get the more that creeps me out.  

342 183 Stop running candidates who want anti oral sex laws. Posted by: genew at November 05, 2013 11:06 AM (Al3QW) What candidates are those and what specific laws did they propose?

343 >The college professors are lying to their students.<

Yes, but the people whom they would like to hire them, largely don't...

Thinking creatively, I would love to have a cage match for the little useless buggers to compete. But I am pretty sure that's against OSHA or DoL reg's.

By the way- Veterans go to the front of the line. Small hint for losers that want to try and clean up their act...

344 156 I was truly born at the right time. In my youth, the Woman's Lib movement convinced girls that they should give it up to me at no charge, and now in my dotage, the youth have been convinced to support my healthcare. Some call it The Notch, I call it The Saddle. Posted by: toby928© at November 05, 2013 11:00 AM (QupBk) Right Arm! And that's when the Pussy moved!

345 I'm seeing grade inflation even among the engineering student candidates. I keep asking for detailed grade data through our pipeline schools but am getting the Heisman.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie

I'm having good luck by getting involved with their department heads in their junior year.  Bringing them in as part-timers and having them do something useful as a senior design project, not just another robot.  Actually had a big company try an poach me because of the youngster they had poached from me coming out of school.

346 "I'm too socially liberal/moderate for most of y'all anyway" We've been polite to them, and they still voted for Obama twice. Time for some tough love.

347 I stopped reading Schlicter when he went on the bashing campaign of anyone who didn't demand that goproud be allowed to set up shop at cpap. #fuckyoukurt

348 My political reality moment? Watching the Dem convention in Chicago in 1968. My family was skewed to the Dems, but after watching what was going on the party, it was plain that the entirety of the Democratic party, left/right/middle was corrupt as hell, philosophically/politically/socially/leaglly. I've been Independent ever sense.

349 179 Its the right thing to do and not doing that is why being a rabid leftist is OK seemingly in public.

Posted by: Mr Pink at November 05, 2013 11:05 AM

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Depends on the situation of course, and of course many libs on twitter are screaming out for that kind of treatment so I'm not even talking about that.  I'm talking about the guy going after conservatives over the pettiest and stupidest of reasons just because he thinks he can.  Not regarding anything ideological whatsoever.

350 Because nothing - NOTHING I TELLS YA - makes this 24 y/o underemployed graduate more amenable to conservatism like condescension.


Seems to work for the leftists.  They bring their politics into literally everything, while simultaneously making the assumptions that 1) everyone there agrees with them because they are *right* and 2) that they have attained enlightenment and they must show it off so that others can see how erudite they are and want to spend time with such a sage.

Seems to work for them, who have infested the media and the schools, and not being happy with just projecting a message of leftist indoctrination, have to actively bully people into shutting up about it.

For every conservative that openly says something snarky and condescending to leftists, there are hundreds of conservatives who endure browbeating leftist nonsense every single day of their lives via the tyranny of the maliciously stupid and neurotically insecure.

So the left can suck it.

351 Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 05, 2013 11:40 AM (JpC1K) Alasdair MacIntyre doesn't have a PhD either. Sometimes it is what you know and who you know rather than what you have.

352 But naw, let's patronise a bunch of earnest young white people - thinking stochastically, they're the onesbeing addressed here- who really do mean well

Oh.  This fascism is awesome because your friends who beg for it mean well.  Thanks for the life lesson.

353

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 05, 2013 11:40 AM (VtjlW)

 

Those we call the Milenials were taught in school, and by TV, that there IS a Free Lunch....

 

Reality is now teaching them otherwise....

 

The Fallout will be interesting..

354 Have been thinking about the pre-paid deal, but am really worried it won't be there when he needs. Can't figure WHY I don't trust Govt with my money, must be something I heard somewhere once? Posted by: Orlandocon ette

I understand.  But, with the way college costs are rising - you couldn't invest that same amount in anything short of cocaine runs.

355 Apparently $100k worth of education doesn't buy what it once did. Which would at a minimum be critical thinking skills, basic mastery of English diction and some type of command over the skills for which their degree was allegedly granted. Posted by: Marcus at November 05, 2013 11:36 AM (GGCsk) THIS! See, THAT was the thing with me. None of them could develop an argument at all. TOTALLY alien to them. Critical thinking? Huh? Wha...wha...wha...wut? ZERO structure. ZERO concept that one paragraph should flow into the next. Just an endless blizzard of "facts" cribbed from Wikipedia in the hope that the prof is too stupid to notice. Usually by Thanksgiving break I'd give up because there would always be a hardcore of dolts who weren't listening. That's OK. I got paid just as much handing out Ds and Fs as I did handing out an A. The kids that finally woke up though, were great kids.

356 Posted by: Lizzie at November 05, 2013 11:39 AM (3hJcU)
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Feel the love.

Embrace the love.

Nothing but love for ya'.


PS: You'll find the "liberal/moderate" social positions are as hollow and destructive as all their other liberal and moderate positions. Or, put another way: You won't get a job just 'cause you support gay marriage.

357 ...guess what I'm doing the next time I need six months off! - Heather Radish You know the rule. Pics...

358 Annnnd here is Hagan(D-NC) I guess she found time off from partying aboard Manchin's $1 million yacht to support O'care.

359 By the way, #caring is the hashtag Schlichter uses, constantly, to express... I'm not sure actually. He's either mocking liberals for falsely believing they #care so much, or he's expressing his own lack of #caring. Or both. Whatever it means, it's sarcastic and insulting.

Worse, Ace. Worse.

He adds it to every comment. It's tedious.

360 Posted by: Beagle at November 05, 2013 11:43 AM (sOtz/) As I get older I get more socially conservative but it translates in an odd way because I get more libertarian towards government. So I may not like X, but I don't care to legislate against X because it's unlikely to stop the behavior. And as long as the behavior doesn't largely effect me or others, I don't give a rats ass. (Note that Several things don't meet that last criteria.)

361 Alasdair MacIntyre doesn't have a PhD either. Sometimes it is what you know and who you know rather than what you have. Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 05, 2013 11:45 AM (GaqMa) I assure you, I am no Alasdair MacIntyre But I read his books! Thomist that I am...

362 I had originally considered living at home, they convinced me to live on campus, it was a disaster (I had an alcoholic roommate possibly selling drugs out of the room and using it for constant hookups until I moved about 2 months in). You say this like it was a bad thing? He didn't share, that's why you are pissed, right?

363 These generational discussions always hurt some people's feelings, but stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.

364

328 -

 

I know a lot of people around here talk about how much they hate liberals,  and I don't argue with them, but the  problem is a lot of these youngsters (20 somethings of today) really had no choice but to be wrung through that process.

 

Some of them are really nice people, and some of them aren't entirely stupid.  I have hope that many of them will figure  it out.  Yes, it might take a sharp smack on the head,  but some of us went through that too (in our youth... I'm not giving out the year). 

365 The college professors are lying to their students. The false advertising that colleges get away with would put any other business under an FTC consent order. Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 11:40 AM (CMlD4) At some point, a group of JDs is going to win a class action suit against a law school for blatant, blatant misrepresentation on employment figures. And I will laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh.

366 Ugh... misspellings flow from my fingers like water.

367 359 Annnnd here is Hagan(D-NC) I guess she found time off from partying aboard Manchin's $1 million yacht to support O'care --- Lord, we better be able to beat down Hagan, Begich, Landrieu, Pryor, and a few of the other Dims in red states to say the least.

368 I'm having good luck by getting involved with their department heads in their junior year. Bringing them in as part-timers and having them do something useful as a senior design project, not just another robot. Actually had a big company try an poach me because of the youngster they had poached from me coming out of school.

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 11:44 AM (CMlD4)

My old company used to bring them in as interns.  It gave them an idea of what real work was like and it allowed us to take a look at them.

369 Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 11:48 AM (0FSuD) As I said, I'm very socially conservative. Also at the time I was in a fast track medical school admissions program that required no write-ups for drugs or alcohol. Yeah, see the problem. Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 05, 2013 11:46 AM (6T8Ay) If I ever get money, remind me to hire you to help the continued improvement of my writing

370 Okay, you have to admit this is a cool axe: http://goo.gl/UROR5x

371 My old company used to bring them in as interns. It gave them an idea of what real work was like and it allowed us to take a look at them.

Posted by: Vic at November 05, 2013 11:49 AM (zZbNF)

Co-op program for me.  Best decision of my life.

I learned more in one semester on the job than I did in an entire year of classes.  And I got paid! 

372 new one

373 368 359 Annnnd here is Hagan(D-NC) I guess she found time off from partying aboard Manchin's $1 million yacht to support O'care Yeah, I think Kay is taking it up the ass on the Yacht. For an ole hag she is not too bad looking. Her son was in my son's frat at Duke.

374

See, THAT was the thing with me. None of them could develop an argument at all. TOTALLY alien to them.

Critical thinking? Huh? Wha...wha...wha...wut?

ZERO structure. ZERO concept that one paragraph should flow into the next. Just an endless blizzard of "facts" cribbed from Wikipedia in the hope that the prof is too stupid to notice.

 

My poor sister gets this, too.   She works at a VERY small college,   and she taught    some courses while she was getting her PhD, too.    Some of these kids are so   DIM that they'll copy/paste directly from some website, without bothering to remove the formatting or the hyperlinks,  and they'll pass it in.     I mean, if you're going to plagiarize (and plagiarize from    questionable sources)   the LEAST you can do is put a little effort into trying to HIDE your plagiarizing. 

 

 

As I said previously, absolutely no higher brain function whatsoever.

375 I wouldn't take it personally, that this guy wrote a snarky article, Liz. It's understandable about being upset about being underemployed. Spouse has been underemployed since Obama's first glorious reign. You didn't vote for Obama. You were wise I feel snarky about all the people who voted not on the content of character-but bought the whole Obama dog and pony show without bothering to investigate not just millennials.

376 If I ever get money, remind me to hire you to help the continued improvement of my writing Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 05, 2013 11:49 AM (GaqMa) The currency of that realm is bourbon. GOOD bourbon. I suggest you start now to get yourself on the waiting list for the next batch of Pappy Van Winkle 23 Year Old.

377 They wouldn't hire me. No PhD.

That's not necessarily true. I'll email you.

378

@324.  I get caught up by the condescension a lot too, because I'm not able to make it in the world that the older generations created.  I'm a part-time IT guy that only has shelter (that's not the back seat of the car) because of the generosity of a friend who was left a large house by his parents.  It was an uphill struggle for over a decade of retail hell in order to build up enough credentials to break into skilled labor, and I only just got here.

 

People think young people are lazy, but by and large, most young people didn't start lazy, they got that way because they were never given a chance to prove themselves and had to settle for what they could get, and eventually gave up because there was no way forward.  Given that all the factories were sent to China and all the blue collar work is now done at half the going rate by illegals, there never was a way for the average young person, the one that didn't go to college - to succeed.

 

You can't throw people into a job market where the only game in town is part time at Wal-Mart, then criticize them for never achieving anything more than scaping the bottom of the barrel.

379 Hey, the whole idea of America is, if you want it, vote for it and you'll get it. They voted for it, they got it. The 'mills' who didn't vote for it are the ones that should show scorn. Me the Boomer, I'm circling the wagons and just hoping to age out and die before the great collapse.

380 78 I hate being lumped in with millennials.

Posted by: Mr_UNIVAC

 

 

It's no better in gen X.  I know a fellow expat who is giving up his US citizenship because of the intrusive nature of US reporting requirments.  I pointed out he voted Obama in 2008 and his policies and regs are what is enforcing it all.  Stupidity is rich in irony in all age groups.

381 338 So you'll stop voting for idiot liberal candidates that are destroying your future if we stop condescending to you? ===============     I'll start voting for you once you come up with something worth voting for. That work for you? Yes, the welfare state is the civilian arm of Big Govt/Big Labor/Big Business corportatism. "Yes, it's screwing people over. Let's throw enough money so that they don't starve to death or riot, and leave everything else the same. Job done." All the conservative side of things seems to say in response is "Young people are lazy! People should work! Cut welfare!" Which might be fair enough, if they could get even half as het up over jobs being sent overseas, massive immigration/demographic change and corportatism. But nope, that might go after corporate interests and various ethnic groups might be unhaaaaapppy. Couldn't have that. Better go after earnest young white people.
====================    
"Oh wait - I guess not. Thanks to your votes, you'll stay unemployed, but at least you can marry someone of the same sex."     (1) Underemployed. There's a difference.   (2) Yes, gay marriage is important to me. And I'd dearly love to see the socons go after divorce and single mothers with the same vehemence - oops, wait, that would require some balls.   (3) With the state of establishment conservatism and libertarianism, I'll stay underemployed and unable to retire unless some major fingers are pulled out of some important assholes. Why bother?

382 Irony is one of the 12 essential nutrients necessary to survive the shitfest of life.

383 I learned more in one semester on the job than I did in an entire year of classes. And I got paid! Posted by: EC --------------------- I had a (piss poor) manager at one job whose son was adamant about joining the Army after high school. I was pleased. After the guy told me that his son was off to basic, I made the comment that his son was going to learn more about leadership in a few months than most corporate people ever did. The guy's face immediately fell.., he just didn't know what to say.

384 Hey sven , I seem to recall you wanting to learn how to tan hides . Go to the FT. Jackson rod and gun facility any day just after dark when the deer hunters come in with their daily bag . Most of the deer skins get thrown away with the gut buckets . I'm sure you'll be given more raw deer skins than you could possibly use . The deer and turkey hunting on Jackson is fabulous too , if you're interested . I used to hunt there with my retiree father . Lotta game and good facility .

385 Warren up..., editorializing, naturally. Usual apologist bullshit.

386

like sarcastic and insulting. We need more of it. Screw charm offensives. Just be offensive. No more nice. Give it to them straight.

 

That's the problem with a lot of today's society.  Raised as they were by Mr. Rogers,  they were all told they were so special, everything they thought or felt was just sooooo important  and they could  never,  ever be wrong about anything, when they hear the truth, they tend to think  that whoever bears the message    is  such a big old meanie.

 

Helicopter parents don't help. Neither does the feminization of society.  But the foundation of it all is the engorgement of the ego.

387 I seem to recall you wanting to learn how to tan hides . ------------------ Hmm. Isn't there piss involved in that? Or is that old school?

388 Old school Mr. Hammer . So's brain tanning , although it works . I prefer modern chemicals ,personally . Less stink .

389 You can't throw people into a job market where the only game in town is part time at Wal-Mart, then criticize them for never achieving anything more than scaping the bottom of the barrel.

Posted by: Cato at November 05, 2013 11:54 AM (i+Vw2)

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Or - my personal favorite - essentially destroy the blue collar jobs, then mock them for flocking to colleges they can't handle, in a desperate attempt to get a white collar job.

 

You can stay silent - or actively collude with - importing workers and exporting jobs OR you can excoriate young people for being lazy. Where exactly can a teenager get a summer job? What exactly is out there for young graduates? What exactly is someone on the left hand side of the bell curve meant to do? Where, in short, are my generation - and those younger - meant to pick up the discipline and dignity of work?

390 >Number of the Week: Why DonÂ’t More People Want a Job?<

WSJ
http://tinyurl.com/khpxhba

"34.3%: Share of Americans over age 16 who say they donÂ’t want a job, up from about 30% two decades ago."

This is the essence of the problem.

391 Where, in short, are my generation - and those younger - meant to pick up the discipline and dignity of work?

Posted by: Lizzie at November 05, 2013 12:05 PM (3hJcU)

Same place I did. Paper route until 14 and legal to work. Then, bus tables, split tips with the waitress. Eventually worked in a women's high end clothing store, wrapping Christmas packages, etc. Work my way into college, pay as you go, and then apprentice to a professional, get the credential, and up you go.

It ain't that hard. You just can't start at the top.

And get over it. This is a no-whine zone, honey.

392 That was a great read.

393 Are you blaming conservatives for shipping jobs overseas or thinking they endorse outsourcing? I don't think young people are lazy and I do think they have a lot of problems getting jobs-but they will be some of the ones who think of al;lowing illegal immigrants more and more rights because "social justice."

394

Lizzie:  The establishment in both "Mainstream" parties is not your friend, or friends to the American People as a whole.  Those bastards are feathering their nests at our expense.  I don't know who you are or where you came from, but odds are that everything you've ever heard about the Tea Party is dead wrong.  We're not social conservatives, we're not corporate shills, and we're not really trying to do much of anything but drain the swamp. We're trying to change the game by getting rid of the Establishment and smacking the system upside the head with the Constitution.

 

The lobbying, corporate welfare, and patronage of the Establishments are like a virus, and what we're trying to do is basically a format and reset to factory default software.

395 essentially destroy the blue collar jobs


Who destroyed the blue collar jobs in upstate New York, so that there's very little work except in government, academia, or retail?

Describe how corporate restructuring and overseas job movement relates directly to an economy based on consumption.  Integrate the principles of supply vs. demand into your explanation.



 

396 This guy said it best: "Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will learn in no other." Benjamin Franklin


Reality is out there, and when it is done laughing at these kids it's going to teach them a lesson they won't forget.

397

@394:  I don't know whose bright idea it was, but it was someone's, and nobody's put a stop to it yet, so I may as well blame everyone.

398 I've mentioned this before, but in my experience there are two types of Millenials: those who work hard and have genuine ambition and drive, and those who are the very embodiment of the entitlement mentality. There seems to be very little overlap between the two, though the latter likes to pretend they are part of the former group.

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This has been my experience as well. Millenials either kick ass or are complete losers. I will tell you that the kick-ass ones really impress me.

There doesn't seem to be much in between. I think that will only exacerbate the income gap in this society, which, ironically will cause the losers to scream even louder for greater entitlements.

399 Blue State Rebel, thank you so much for the kind words.

400 394- I was actually asking Liz, not you cato, :^) but yes, nobody has put a stop to it and there's a lot of blame to go around..

401 392 Where, in short, are my generation - and those younger - meant to pick up the discipline and dignity of work?

Posted by: Lizzie at November 05, 2013 12:05 PM (3hJcU)

Same place I did. Paper route until 14 and legal to work. Then, bus tables, split tips with the waitress. Eventually worked in a women's high end clothing store, wrapping Christmas packages, etc. Work my way into college, pay as you go, and then apprentice to a professional, get the credential, and up you go.

It ain't that hard. You just can't start at the top.

And get over it. This is a no-whine zone, honey.

Posted by: tcn at November 05, 2013 12:10 PM (3kDQa)

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Deep breath. Stay calm. 

 

You are fucking delusional. That's the best I can do.

 

Where I live, the waitressing jobs as well as the paper routes, are taken by Eastern Europeans. So are the high end boutiques. The Africans are taking the cleaning jobs. The Asians and Arabs are going into the fishing fleets, and the farmers will only take foreigners as labourers. The STEM jobs are going to H1-B visas. Graduate employment is in the doldrums, because middle management is disappearing and people can't afford to retire. Manufacturing jobs are gone. Things like gardening and construction are done by foreigners. There is no way in fucking hell that anyone, let alone in America, is paying their way through college. Your generation has comprehensively pulled the ladder up.

 

And before you start bitching about how we should just lay down and take the lower wages, longer hours etc., one question: WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THE FREE MARKET? If employers can't get workers at the wages they're offering, they need to heed to market signals and (1) up their wages, (2) mechanize so they don't need as much labor or (3) go out of business. They don't get to bypass the market and import vast numbers of cheap, pliant workers - who, by the way, are being subsidized by the govt in the form of welfare, healthcare and getting their children educated at taxpayer expense.

 

So no, you don't get to accuse me of whining. Your generation has handed yet more power to the corporatist powers, but instead of tackling that, you prefer to turn to white people (I'd LOVE to see Schlichter trying similar rhetoric at, say, an African American townhall meeting) and bitch us out for being lazy.

402

I'm not saying that, say, conservatives and libertarians are in favor of corporatism. I'm saying, that for all practical purposes, it makes no difference. They're quarks on the topic - yeah, we know they're there, but god knows what they're for. Instead, they like to be unconscionably rude to people who would be amenable to at least some parts of their message.

 

Focus on attacking corporatism and immigration, and we're there. Basically ignore it, and we'll go for the people who do pretty much the same thing, but are more respectful about it.

403
Late to the thread..... but.....

"Whatever it means, it's sarcastic and insulting."


And also spot fucking on.

404 we'll go for the people who do pretty much the same thing, but are more respectful about it. Which political party is that?

405 Lizzie: What are the 5 worse jobs you have ever applied for?

406 Or rather not political party , but which person for any political office?

407 I would like to give the GOP some campaigning advice.  Next election simply say, "vote for me and all your wildest dreams will come true."

408
Focus on attacking corporatism and immigration, and we're there. Basically ignore it, and we'll go for the people who do pretty much the same thing, but are more respectful about it.

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Who are these anti-(illegal) immigration you're going to vote for? The Democrats? Yeah?

Anti-corporatism? Obama? The guy who received more money from Wall St. than his GOP rivals?

Ok.

Here's a question. What are YOU doing to steer your peers away from leftism?

409 @383 Irony is one of the 12 essential nutrients necessary to survive the shitfest of life.

Posted by: toby928

 

 

Washed down with a fifth of Jamesons.

410

@402.  I keep hearing that "corporatist" word, and I hope you aren't impugning capitalism by association.  The current system is even more alien to Smith than it is to Marx.  The only thing that the current economic system resembles out of all of history is the role of corporations in fascist governments, with a state that directs companies, which in turn, direct the state and a connected political class that runs both.

411 You know who else is sarcastic and insulting?

Jon Stewart.

Maybe Schlichter is on to something.

412 You think Millennials are self righteous, smug and have their heads up their asses...hang around around a couple gay guys for more than 5 minutes.

413 413:  Obamabots are the worst.

414 Perhaps Liz is taking about Rand Paul. The trouble is no third party candidate at this point can win and if in will throw the Presidency to the Democrats. I thought Rand Paul had some good points but was too way out there on a number of issues and IMO had some disturbing associations that seemed Anti Semetic.

415 51 So it turns out Obama is finally getting the massive tax hike he's always wanted. He's just calling it "insurance." Posted by: Caliban at November 05, 2013 10:38 AM (DrC22) Ding. Ding. Ding. Mofoing Ding!

416 Meant RON Paul not Rand Paul.

417 Why Jobs Go To Foreigners

1) Upward cost pressures from government taxation and regulation, inflation due to monetary policy (for Fed influence)

2) Downward price pressures from consumer culture.  People want their shit to stay cheap.

3) Upward pressure to increase profit margin due to fiduciary responsibility to shareholders.

When costs go up, but price cannot go up with it, other costs must go down to compensate.  Historically, the most liquid cost is labor.  Reducing labor costs provide an immediate benefit to the bottom line, which is why layoffs ALWAYS happen when a company struggles.

The company has a choice:

a) Raise prices: this works for a while, but in a competitive market (and retail goods are cutthroat) you cannot raise prices without losing market share UNLESS you have a gimmick protected by patent.  And even then, consumers will reach a point where they can do without rather than pay your price.  This reduces demand.

b) Layoffs and restructuring: this doesn't really work either, because even though you save some money immediately through labor costs, you can't produce enough goods to maintain supply, and someone else's product takes the shelf space. 

c) Outsourcing: take non-essential functions in the business, such as benefits management, and outsource them. Works great but is nibbling around the edges.  Does not address core problem - how to produce same or more at same price point with constantly increasing cost pressure?

d) Cheap Foreign Labor:  Ding ding ding.  This is the ONLY logical path.  You get cheap unskilled labor at pennies on the dollar.  Relocating facilities takes a hit, but labor is pennies on the dollar.  Even better if you can contract production and don't need to own the facility!  The creditors, the shareholders - both are happy and you've met your fiduciary responsibility, and the consumer is happy to get the good at the lower price point.  At least until quality deteriorates, and it will.  And the government gets it's high tax rates and compliance with regs.

But, by then, your move to use foreign sourced labor has alleviated the cost pressure still felt by your competition, so they need to match your move.

And the domino effect continues.

So, if you want one of these factors to remain the same - namely, the use of more expensive domestic labor - then some of the other factors need to change to compensate.

1) Consumers can willingly pay higher prices to keep workers employed.  As if.  Look at the migration of Wal-Mart from USA sourced to China sourced goods if you want to see how price is king, and sentiment ends up in a ditch.  In the meantime, the first adopter to rack up the price to where it needs to be goes under due to market pressures, and those people are unemployed anyway.

2) Shareholders can accept mediocrity in the balance sheet, or even experience losses.  Yeah, that doesn't work well.

3) American workers should expect to get paid less for menial work.  Hah.

OR (the only reasonable solution)

4) Government costs for taxation and compliance can be reduced.  Reduce the tax component that is passed on to consumers through cost.  Reduce compliance costs by simplifying or eliminating regulation.

The problem is that once the damage is done, and 3 generations of formerly-hardworking people have been put on the dole - do you get them to want to work even if the jobs come back?

418 This ain't some team sport where you cheer for "your guy" and winning or losing has no real material consequences. This is life, and if you choose badly things get ugly and personal real quick.

 

Posted by: Marcus at November 05, 2013 11:31 AM (GGCsk)

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To take that thought one step further:  So many liberals  kneejerk reflexively  defend Owebama because he's their guy, is on their team.  You never hear them talk about America, what's best for her, or even defend her.

 

419 Why does #caring have to be sarcastic? Doesn't opposing socialism and educating people about it's flaws show that you care about society?

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411Why Jobs Go To Foreigners

Jobs go to foreigners because the Fed prints USD.  Much of the newly printed cash goes to the Chinese who send us refrigerators in exchange and the heathens keep the USD (more fools them).

Put another way, if we were still on the gold standard we would not be able to carry on moving manufacturing overseas, because nobody has invented a gold-printing machine.

421 Let's be honest, most people are immature and kinda dumb when they're young. Well, at least I was. What was it Churchill said about being young and being a socialist?

These days, the kids don't have access to traditional mentors. The entire culture is leftist. I knew nothing about Reagan except that he was an actor in a movie with a chimpanzee. That was enough.

This insurance thing perhaps is waking them up. They are getting mugged early.

422 And I thought people had unkind things to say about the boomers. Schlicter's piece was just brutal.

423 Any screed that doesn't end by exhorting millennials to kill their liberal arts professors is just wasted bandwidth.

424 Schlichter was spot on! Too bad the millennials listened to their over-paid professors instead of their parents. Someone needed to slap em up side the head with the facts. #idontcare