January 02, 2013

Chris Christie Blames Holdup on Sandy Relief on Boehner, House Republicans
— Ace

He continues running against Republicans, which I suppose improves his chances for being reelected Governor, but does little to recommend him to me as a national spokesman for limited government.

"There is only one group to blame," Christie said. "The House Majority and John Boehner."

"Last night, the House Majority failed the basic test of leadership and they did so with callous disregard to the people of my state," he said. "It was disappointing and disgusting to watch."

"Shame on you, shame on Congress."

Following his remarks, Christie doubled down on his criticism in a lengthy — and incredibly candid — press conference in which he laid into House Republicans for putting "palace intrigue" ahead of their actual jobs.

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Asked who he thought was responsible on the holdup over Sandy aid, Christie laid the blame entirely on Boehner.

"It was the Speaker's decision — his alone," Christie said, adding that he tried to reach Boehner four times, but that the Speaker did not take his calls until this morning."

Meanwhile Peter King tells people not to donate to the NRCC or Republicans, and of course half of the "Sandy Spending" is pork for entirely unrelated matters, like Alaskan fisheries. Which is what happens-- when you have an attractively-named spending bill, something people will only vote against with great trepidation, you lard it up with all the spending you couldn't possibly get otherwise.

At this point I've stopped worrying about the epochal financial crisis and simply accepted it, and have begun just looking for the silver lining: Well, they'll finally reap what they've long sown.

Notice it's always those who attempt to get pork stripped out who are charged with "holding things up," even by nominal Republicans. They never lay the blame with those who have stuck unrelated spending items in the bill for holding it up. Those people are "just doing what needs to be done."


Posted by: Ace at 11:28 AM | Comments (243)
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1 Thanks again, Chris, for all you do.

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 02, 2013 11:29 AM (rFiOs)

2 Chris Christie is literally the Ship of State of New Jersey...

Posted by: Tina Brown at January 02, 2013 11:30 AM (QKKT0)

3 The Fat Man has sung.  Stick a fork into the Rethugs, they're done.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 02, 2013 11:30 AM (Hx5uv)

4 At this point I've stopped worrying about the epochal financial crisis and simply accepted it


Let it burn...

Posted by: EC at January 02, 2013 11:30 AM (GQ8sn)

5 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 02, 2013 11:30 AM (8y9MW)

6 Embrace your bitterness. I literally get joy now from seeing these people get what they want. Get it good and hard. Oh everyones taxes are going up now....Shouldnt you be happy, you voted for this? What you say this isnt Obama's fault again? But but, he wanted this, you wanted this, why arent you proud of this?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 02, 2013 11:31 AM (++kZl)

7 The trend of fat guys dissing the GOP continues apace.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 02, 2013 11:31 AM (QKKT0)

8 I'm still not sure why someone in Topeka should be responsible for rebuilding Coney Island.

Can someone explain that to me?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 02, 2013 11:31 AM (8y9MW)

9

Is this the same fat  Christie that got Obama re-elected?

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 02, 2013 11:31 AM (MPjT8)

10 Someone should tell Governor Fat F**k that it takes more to being conservative than having once eaten a conservative.  Maybe he can put the gimp mask back on and toss Welfare Jesus' salad again.

Posted by: JonS at January 02, 2013 11:31 AM (PWbmR)

11 (a) Like a Sandy relief bill can't wait a few more weeks.

(b) Can we please blame Obama and the Senate for dragging and pork-ladening the bill and then waiting until the last minute?  Is that really so hard?

(c) F**k NY/NJ. I'd tell them to piss up a rope. They can.  I can't because it's well below freezing and we haven't gotten our Perfectly-Predictable-Given-Your-Geographic-Location-And-Climate Bailout check from the Feds yet.

Don't want hurricanes? Don't live an hour from the beach.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 02, 2013 11:32 AM (T0NGe)

12

At this point I've stopped worrying about the epochal financial crisis and simply accepted it, and have begun just looking for the silver lining: Well, they'll finally reap what they've long sown.

Posted by: Ace at 03:28 PM


Dr. Strangelove for the twenty-first century!


And indeed, let it burn - not so much an expression of will, it is an acceptance of reality.  It will burn.  It's already burning.


Sit back, and let it burn, 'cause none among us can do a damn thing to stop it.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 02, 2013 11:33 AM (pcaFm)

13 This porked-up "Sandy Relief" bill will consume almost precisely 1-year's worth of the tax increase on the "rich" that CONgress just signed-off on.

It's almost as if that was the plan all along.

LIB - and Let It Start With NY and NJ.

Posted by: DocJ at January 02, 2013 11:34 AM (A5uiv)

14 But Obama said we all have to have some skin in the game.....arent you happy that our taxes went up? He ran on higher taxes, why arent you happy about this you wanted it. If I could find a way to connect my bitterness to a generator I could power a small state.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 02, 2013 11:34 AM (++kZl)

15 I can't tell yet whether I'm sick to my stomach or just relieved to have finally abandoned the idea that the GOP is the party for conservatives.  I have voted for my last Republican official. 

Posted by: Sam In VA at January 02, 2013 11:34 AM (rFiOs)

16 So, two states that won't vote R who have received billions of relief money already are complaining about Republicans only, even though the bill is a piece of crap.  Wait a few days, Chris Christie, something you apparently can't do when it's time to eat.  Pass a bill that doesn't contain billions in pork-could you see fit to mention that in your speech?

Posted by: ejo at January 02, 2013 11:34 AM (GXvSO)

17 So Mr. Fiscal Conservative is whining about the Republican Party because it has failed to approve a pork-laden spending bill which appropriates about half of the money to items un-affiliated with the main purpose of the bill. Ann Coulter must be so weak in the knees right now.

Posted by: Paul Zummo at January 02, 2013 11:34 AM (Ud5vq)

18 Now watch this drive.

Posted by: president o'bumbles at January 02, 2013 11:34 AM (jPVBi)

19 I think the basic problem is that we tend to judge things by whether they are true and whether they are logical.  Obammy, Christie et al. couldn't care less whether a winning argument is true or logical.  We're playing chess and they're in a drunken bar fight with broken beer bottles.  It's Bobby Fisher versus Mike Tyson and Bobby Fisher can't give or take a punch.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 02, 2013 11:34 AM (Hx5uv)

20 8 I'm still not sure why someone in Topeka should be responsible for rebuilding Coney Island.

Can someone explain that to me?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 02, 2013 03:31 PM (8y9MW)


Because REASONS.


Also, because no one in Congress would listen to Davy Crockett in the early nineteenth century, and that set forth a pattern of idiocy that continues to this day.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 02, 2013 11:35 AM (pcaFm)

21 I would be more than happy to shower the victims of Hurricane Sandy with maybe, one billion dollars..? Immediately! Not ever gonna approve 3 trillion, extra, just for the fuck of it!

Posted by: Deety Chairwoman of the SOOC at January 02, 2013 11:35 AM (aOVhq)

22 At this stage, every dollar they spend is meaningless anyway. I don't care whether they pass a Sandra Fluke National Massage Parlor bill. Who cares?

Lard up every bill if you want. Even tens of billions pissed away every chance they get pales in comparison to the macro view, which is we're going to burn. Let's get it started.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at January 02, 2013 11:35 AM (zpqa2)

23 Except for the Prez himself all of politics is local.  And Christie can't become     Prez unless and until he wins reelection in NJ.  Sometimes you have to throw   some darts to get reelected.  There are plenty of analogous circumstances too.    Sometimes you have to lose money to make money.  Sometimes you have to lose a few hands to win the really big hands.  Sometimes you have to   make enemies before you make friends.  Sometimes you have to burn a few   bridges before you can build a few bridges.  Seasoned adult professionals   understand all this.  Politicians understand this.  The Internet's chattering class   demographic?  Eh, not so much. 

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at January 02, 2013 11:35 AM (pmsMR)

24 Also, someone explain to me why one of the wealthiest geographic regions in the world (per capita) should need anyone to pay for any "relief."

The ONLY argument that proponents of these "relief" bills have ever put forward other than "because shut up" is "Well, they can't afford to rebuild on their own!" (which is largely hokum).  Well, given the density of lawyers, Wall St. types, and so forth, I can't imagine that the same is true for NYC/NJ.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 02, 2013 11:35 AM (8y9MW)

25 How does it feel to get shafted Christie? This country is broke and you need to squeeze your money out of that gambling rich state.

Posted by: rplat at January 02, 2013 11:36 AM (ew94K)

26 Maybe one of their Senators could have taken time from exploiting Third World girls to be his whores in order to shepherd this through Reid's Senate and keep the pork off it.

Or maybe the other one could get out of his coffin once in a while.

Maybe New York's senior Senator could have been moved if they put a camera in front of the bill.  The junior Senator would have to be told what to do, of course.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 02, 2013 11:36 AM (T0NGe)

27 They are insulting us.

Posted by: Deety Chairwoman of the SOOC at January 02, 2013 11:36 AM (aOVhq)

28 Obama:  Who's calling?  Christie?  I won't take it---I don't need him anymore. 

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 02, 2013 11:36 AM (wbmaj)

29 FNJNQ!

Posted by: DaveA at January 02, 2013 11:36 AM (zPLX9)

30 Way to be a team-player, lard-boy.

Of course, it's not much of a team.

Posted by: ToursLepantoVienna at January 02, 2013 11:36 AM (6NIyO)

31 Christie, go do another Kathy Griffin on your Kenyan boyfriend Oh, and fuck off

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at January 02, 2013 11:37 AM (crLRi)

32 Katrina disaster:  Republican's fault.

Sandy disaster:  Republican's fault.

I'm sensing a pattern.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 02, 2013 11:37 AM (Hx5uv)

33 Hey Chrissy - why don't you get your hero, the semi-chocolate messiah, to fly back from Hawaii, don is spiffy new (only worn once) bomber jacket and demand that CONgress pass "A Clean Relief Bill" - you know, the sorts of "clean" bills Democrats used to demand when Chimpy McBushitler was president.

Nah, easier to make headlines in Pravda on the Hudson than to, you know, actually act like a responsible adult.

Posted by: DocJ at January 02, 2013 11:37 AM (A5uiv)

34 So Mr. Fiscal Conservative is whining about the Republican Party because it has failed to approve a pork-laden spending bill which appropriates about half of the money to items un-affiliated with the main purpose of the bill.

He is just like the teachers he berates. They don't care where the money comes from either.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 02, 2013 11:38 AM (T0NGe)

35 Efff 'em.  Give them the 5 or 10 bill that actually is needed. 

Posted by: buzz at January 02, 2013 11:38 AM (i27M5)

36 Chris Christie is not a serious thinker.

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 02, 2013 11:38 AM (UypUQ)

37 It should be noted that the part of NJ that got devastated is overhelmingly Republican, and it ain't likely that they'd agree with this grotesque beached whale (if the damage had happened somewhere else, anyay).

Posted by: Zippity Doo Dah at January 02, 2013 11:39 AM (E55AK)

38 Hold on while I play While My Violin Gently Weeps.

Posted by: sTevo at January 02, 2013 11:39 AM (VMcEw)

39 Seriously, Fat Man, STFU. I was a big fan of this guy when he exploded on the scene telling teacher union F*cks what their problem was and how it was going to be, but his non-stop fellation of Big Daddy guvment and Obama and the constant kicking of the GOP... Hey, screw YOU, Chris. The Washington GOP aren't my favorite people right now, but I'm pretty sure that's the party this guy ostensibly belongs to, right? Put me some knowledge, Morons -- is there any apparatus available to the party that would enable them to kick people OUT? Like, if the Tea Partiers are able to gain more seats over time and get a stronger grip on the Party, can we eject people like Christie and Lindsey Graham and McCain (among others) when they prove themselves to no longer represent good, old-fashioned *conservatism*? I know, I'm dreaming...

Posted by: Miller at January 02, 2013 11:39 AM (xhZmJ)

40 Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at January 02, 2013 03:35 PM (pmsMR)


Yeah, Christie publically flogged the Wonders of Barack a week before a close election for the long-term good of conservatives.  Thanks for clearing things up.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 02, 2013 11:39 AM (QKKT0)

41 If I could find a way to connect my bitterness to a generator I could power a small state.[i/] This was very cathartic.

Posted by: g w mclintock at January 02, 2013 11:40 AM (Z/UpL)

42 Couldn't House Reps have put forth a non-pork Sandy relief bill, though?  If they did that, then I think we would have a better spin on this today.

Posted by: LB at January 02, 2013 11:40 AM (larNa)

43 What makes this especially insulting is that it's Chris "No Unnecessary Spending" Christie saying it.

I understand why, as Governor, he's requesting the Federal funds, but couldn't he at least say, "I'm highly disappointed that Senate Democrats saw fit to load this bill with so much pork that no one paying any attention to our budget could reasonably vote for it?" 

I mean, why blame Republicans?  Why not blame Democrats?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 02, 2013 11:40 AM (8y9MW)

Posted by: g w mclintock at January 02, 2013 11:40 AM (Z/UpL)

45 I likes me some pork!
Ham, bacon, pork and beans, pork chops.
Hells yeah!

Posted by: Chris 'the other white meat' Christy at January 02, 2013 11:40 AM (I7O5y)

46 All of politics is merely the acquisition of Slush Funds.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at January 02, 2013 11:40 AM (71LDo)

47 Did someone say Pork? it's been 20 minutes...let me at it!

Posted by: Chris "get in my stomach!' Christie at January 02, 2013 11:40 AM (XLuH2)

48 Maybe Alaskan fishermen can start hunting whale in NJ..

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at January 02, 2013 11:41 AM (AWmfW)

49 I look at what's happening and I laugh. These people all think they're so damn smart and important, when all they are is a bunch of petty, small, feckless twits. Christie, Boehner, Obama, Pelosi, Reid, the whole lot. The credit card payment is coming due and they're still running up the tab. In a democratic system, you get the government you deserve. When I look across the counter and see another damned food stamper loading up enough 5$ Ben & Jerry's pints to pay half my day's wage, it becomes clear that on the whole, we deserve this. Reality is going to smack a lot of people upside the head, things will get ugly, and I probably won't survive the consequences of what these people did. But you better believe my last words will be "I told you so, now own it."

Posted by: Cato at January 02, 2013 11:41 AM (GQvSj)

50 He chose.... poorly...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 02, 2013 11:41 AM (lZBBB)

51 I used to think Christie was wonderful but ever since the photo op with idiot boy, I've been really disappointed in him.

Posted by: Sassy at January 02, 2013 11:41 AM (rLB4o)

52 Posted by: g w mclintock at January 02, 2013 03:40 PM (Z/UpL)

1 Internetz.

Also, you are now obligated to purchase a copy (or: an additional copy) of OSP's book.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 02, 2013 11:41 AM (8y9MW)

53 Those $400 hammers are starting to look like a bargain...

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 02, 2013 11:42 AM (hc3eM)

54 Behold the face of the New Republican. You may have to lift the rolls of fat to get a better look.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means you don't pay for yourself at January 02, 2013 11:42 AM (Lxw+T)

55
The 3 types of Republicans

1. the Jim Demints -- these Republicans vote consistently with conservative principles

2. the Scott Browns -- these Republicans vote mostly for personal political expediency and only use the party's brand for recognition and logistical and financial support.

3. and the Chris Christies -- these are the worst type of Republicans -- they vote and govern like the Scott Browns, but unlike the Scott Browns the Chris Christies will openly denigrate other Republicans with no regard whatsoever for the party's brand

Posted by: soothsayer at January 02, 2013 11:42 AM (ptD6d)

56 I  liked my headline better.

Tell ya what. I'll trade Christie 10 McDoubles with fries for the Sandy Bill.

And what's up with Peter King? He needs one of those leopard coats with the fur collars, tights and clown shoes. Because apparently he's become a carnival barker now.

Posted by: marcus at January 02, 2013 11:42 AM (GGCsk)

57 LIB - and Let It Start With NY and NJ.  Posted by: DocJ at January 02, 2013 03:34 PM (A5uiv)

I sympathize in general with the folks of NY/NJ.  I spent a few years there working on IT projects and my takeaway was the breathtaking amounts of cynicism that those folks have regarding corruption and pork.  Their blase attitude that flyover country exists just to grow food for NYC and to send in Federal taxes to pay for NY/NJ infrastructure was hard to take.  Their ignorance about the rest of the country is real--if it is not NY/NJ, it does not matter.  I had a chiropractor, which means the guy was a college graduate at the very least, ask me if Oklahoma had paved roads and real houses--not tents and teepees.  He was serious. 

I have not contributed one dime to Hurricane Sandy relief because the Feds will more than bail them out and make them whole--they will make them better than whole.   My tax dollars are enough to give them.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 02, 2013 11:42 AM (kXoT0)

58 Couldn't House Reps have put forth a non-pork Sandy relief bill, though? If they did that, then I think we would have a better spin on this today.

No, that's the whole point. The Senate sends a bill at the last minute and skips town.  Amend the bill and the Senators have to come back.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 02, 2013 11:42 AM (T0NGe)

59 I thought TFG already healed NJ

Posted by: fluffy at January 02, 2013 11:42 AM (hm/tv)

60

Why isn't the RNC addressing this?

 

 1/2 the bill is crappy lard but the news and Christie are ignoring that elephant in the room (the crap, not Christie.) .

Posted by: LASue at January 02, 2013 11:42 AM (pWeX5)

61 Sooo, there are  no other avenues for  aid to NJ? There's no FEMA, no local Bureau of Emergency-Type stuff, nothing? It all has to come from DC?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 02, 2013 11:43 AM (yiIja)

62 Chris Christie kissed TFG's ass, thanking him for all he did. Why doesn't he call TFG? There were too many things added to the bill. Maybe the new congress can start a rule, bills have one intent only and they cannot add more spending that is unrelated to the bill at hand! I read that Senators had three minutes before deciding to vote on the bill January 1. We know some of the other junk in it, green energy, Hollywood production tax credits, to pay to TFG's Hollywood morons that backed him! I am still pissed off!

Posted by: CarolT at January 02, 2013 11:43 AM (z4WKX)

63 Also, you are now obligated to purchase a copy (or: an additional copy) of OSP's book. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 02, 2013 03:41 PM

And read your blog too?

Don't go all soft on us now. 

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 02, 2013 11:43 AM (sbV1u)

64 Cliff, no cliff, economic meltdown, so what? Any poliitician on either side has their pile. Why should we count on them to try to fix it?

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 02, 2013 11:44 AM (MPjT8)

65 No, all politics is NOT local. 


Most politics is usually mostly local, but Gingrinch proved in 94 ( and Reagan in 1980 ) that if you 'nationalize' or make nation-wide a good cause, you win national / nationwide elections


all politics is personal; usually Very Personal

Posted by: Cockney rhyming slang guy at January 02, 2013 11:44 AM (Dll6b)

66 I was never on the Christie bandwagon to begin with, but when he gave SCOAMF a sloppy wet one on the lips after Sandy, I knew it was just a matter of time til other people would catch on to what kind of sleazy bitch that he was.

Have another bologna sandwich fatboy.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 02, 2013 11:44 AM (aZ6ew)

67 And read your blog too?

Well, that's a given.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 02, 2013 11:44 AM (8y9MW)

68 Congress failed to perform even the basic duties of the legislative branch, why should Chris Christie expect anything different? As Corker (R-TN) said, this is a Congress that has failed to live up to their responsibilities, failed to solve the nation's problems and failed at any meaningful productive activity.

Posted by: Jordan at January 02, 2013 11:44 AM (Hz1zc)

69 I understand why, as Governor, he's requesting the Federal funds, but couldn't he at least say, "I'm highly disappointed that Senate Democrats saw fit to load this bill with so much pork that no one paying any attention to our budget could reasonably vote for it?"

---

One of the Civil War Generals, I can't remember who, was the commander of a subordinate unit, perhaps a regiment, and quartermaster for the superior formation, perhaps the brigade.  As regimental commander he would seek the finest equipment for his own regiment and as quartermaster he would deny his own request because he had to consider the good of the entire brigade.  Maybe Christie is playing such Jedi mind tricks on himself.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 02, 2013 11:44 AM (Hx5uv)

70

 Those people are "just doing what needs to be done."

 

Not just. Look at what Christie says - "doing their jobs", "test of leadership". Their job is to funnel money around.

Posted by: Entropy at January 02, 2013 11:45 AM (TULs6)

71 Under my new Pork Party manifesto, I can only support this bill if it is ammended to include at least  $4billion for a Texas Beef Affordability plan. It should include a lifetime subsidy for t-bones steaks for me. I figure $4 billion should cover it.

Posted by: Invictus at January 02, 2013 11:45 AM (OQpzc)

72

Funny, you mean we just gave those people in Washington a huge heaping helping of crack, and now they're back, looking for more crack??

 

I don't understand it.  I thought they would be happy. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 02, 2013 11:45 AM (TOk1P)

73 He's your typical right coast prick.

Posted by: red at January 02, 2013 11:45 AM (ymJbM)

74
In other words, you know what you'll get with Jim Demint.

You're not sure what you'll get with Scott Brown, but his selfishness will be honorable and upfront.

With Chris Christie, it's his way or you'll hear about, everyone will hear about it.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 02, 2013 11:45 AM (ptD6d)

75

Christie needs money?

 

He should give Obama another hug. I hear if you squeeze him hard enough, free birth control pills shoot out of his ears.

Posted by: BethinPA at January 02, 2013 11:45 AM (XIAfm)

76 @58 I sympathize in general with the folks of NY/NJ.

I grew-up in NJ (Bergen County), my parents and sister still live there. The only state in the union I loathe more than NJ is Connecticut. Everything from Arlington County VA through to the Canadian border can burn to the ground with me in it, for all I care at this point.

LIB.

Posted by: DocJ at January 02, 2013 11:46 AM (A5uiv)

77 We're playing chess and they're in a drunken bar fight with broken beer bottles.

Probably the best analogy yet.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 02, 2013 11:46 AM (ZKzrr)

78 The more pork in a bill the better.

Posted by: Chris Christie at January 02, 2013 11:46 AM (4cRnj)

79 Gosh, the way you fellas panic around here, a guy might think we didn't have trillions of dollars to throw around. Clearly we've spent trillions per year for the last four, why not the next forty? What, like you think we'll stop spending? Who will force us?

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means you don't pay for yourself at January 02, 2013 11:46 AM (Lxw+T)

80 every spending bill that begins in the House must clearly state what is being spent (can't think of the correct word) and for what purpose. The Senate and Barky can sign on or see the money dry up. Start with the EPA and college loans. Maybe if the money for college loans is cut in half, colleges might start cutting tuition and requiring perfessors to actually teach.
As I don't really expect that to happen, we might as well start preparing for Die Untergang.

Posted by: mallfly at January 02, 2013 11:46 AM (bJm7W)

81 Amazing the fat tub of shit got Springstein's cock out of his mouth long enough to say all that.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 02, 2013 11:46 AM (J11mV)

82 Can you feel the earth shaking? Its the Christies baby-boy stamping his feet.

Posted by: Elize Nayden at January 02, 2013 11:46 AM (9vrJ0)

83

Their blase attitude that flyover country exists just to grow food for NYC and to send in Federal taxes to pay for NY/NJ infrastructure was hard to take. Their ignorance about the rest of the country is real--if it is not NY/NJ, it does not matter.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 02, 2013 03:42 PM (kXoT0)

As a conservative New Yorker, I'd like to be the first congratulate you for spending time with 9 - 11 million people and forming a single cohesive opinion about their beliefs.

Posted by: Heralder at January 02, 2013 11:46 AM (+xmn4)

84 Allen, I loathe typing on the iPad. I've got to go through three touches to get to HTML approved tags. But I do enjoy the browsing much more on this contraption.

Posted by: g w mclintock at January 02, 2013 11:46 AM (Z/UpL)

85
oh, and there's a 4th type of Republican

4. the Mitch McConnells -- outright shit-heels and traitors

Posted by: soothsayer at January 02, 2013 11:46 AM (ptD6d)

86 How does that go? The In Praise Of Mothers, Puppies, the American Flag and Apple Pie Act will have riders containing $1 trillion in pork projects.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 02, 2013 11:46 AM (VtjlW)

87 M. Medved is stating that it's a clear win for Republicans since Bush tax cuts were made permanent and instead of taxes going up 4K they are only going up 1K, so it's a win for 99% of the population. huh?

Posted by: up the wazoo at January 02, 2013 11:46 AM (XLuH2)

88
Chris Christie Charlie Crist
Charlie Christie


/Christ

Posted by: beachie at January 02, 2013 11:47 AM (LpQbZ)

89 So, Ace, when do you start yapping at us unenlightened ones again about what a fuckin' wonderful presidential nominee Christie would be? You know, like you did this past election cycle? Maybe Christie will pick you for his running mate on the Fat-ass Fake Republican ticket?

Posted by: davidinvirginia at January 02, 2013 11:47 AM (5qqqp)

90 Fuck; I meant Springsteen's

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 02, 2013 11:47 AM (J11mV)

91 Larded UP?  More better!

Posted by: Chris Christies chafed thighs at January 02, 2013 11:47 AM (bAGA/)

92 The more pork in a bill the better. Posted by: Chris Christie at January 02, 2013 03:46 PM (4cRnj)

Mmmmmmmmmm.  Pooooork.

Posted by: Homer J. Simpson R-Trenton at January 02, 2013 11:47 AM (sbV1u)

93 Yet FEMA still has a bit over 4.5B to spendy on Sandy. Here's a clue - don't ask for more until you're low, m'kay Crissy?

Posted by: Jess1 at January 02, 2013 11:47 AM (lbiWb)

94 Hey, fellow morons.  Did anyone catch the story about the Des Moines Register columnist who wants to take guns, ban the NRA, raze its headquarters, and kill anyone who resists?

Actual headline: Des Moines columnist calls for repeal of Second Amendment, death of gun owners.

It's at Examiner-dot-com.  January 1.  (I don't know how to do links in a comment now that someone broke the blog.)

Posted by: Phinn at January 02, 2013 11:47 AM (oFH2D)

95 Christie needs money?  Slobber all over Springsteen's shoes some more, how much has Da Boss contributed in actual dollars to the relief?  I do not mean his benefit concerts, I mean actual money from his bank accounts.  After the Nashville flood, the big stars there did concerts and wrote actual checks for big dollars to the relief.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 02, 2013 11:48 AM (kXoT0)

96 Amishdude - I'm sending you a hot toddy, yule log and warm thoughts. You seem a little frigid.

Posted by: Liberty Lover at January 02, 2013 11:48 AM (encrR)

97 The Pork Party demands free bacon for everybody. Bacon topped with bacon bits!

Posted by: Cato at January 02, 2013 11:48 AM (GQvSj)

98
I loathe typing on the iPad. I've got to go through three touches to get to HTML approved tags. But I do enjoy the browsing much more on this contraption.

Posted by: g w mclintock at January 02, 2013 03:46 PM (Z/UpL)


Did you buy your iPad with Food Stamps?

Shoulda tried.  It's all the rage.


http://tinyurl.com/b922e4p


Posted by: beachie at January 02, 2013 11:48 AM (LpQbZ)

99 Sometimes you have to make enemies before you make friends.

Sometimes you're just an incontinent loudmouth pissing in the tent.  Or in your case, twice already today.

Posted by: DaveA at January 02, 2013 11:48 AM (zPLX9)

100 Did anyone catch the story about the Des Moines Register columnist who wants to take guns, ban the NRA, raze its headquarters, and kill anyone who resists?

Russ from Winterset put it in the sidebar yesterday. Maybe the day before; I was gone that day.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 02, 2013 11:49 AM (ZKzrr)

101 Governor Chris Christie (D, NJ). Governor Chris Christie (D, NJ). Governor Chris Christie (D, NJ). Just getting myself used to typing it.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at January 02, 2013 11:49 AM (YesJa)

102 What bullshit - the democrats lard up every bill and now the Republicans get the blame? Fuck the Northeast - they voted for Obama and they can choke on their new tax hikesÂ…Â….

Posted by: redguy at January 02, 2013 11:49 AM (oKH8p)

103 Also,for those of you in the Tri-State area ... Your bridges, tunnels, busses and subways are going to get shittier and shittier and more expensive, because you WILL be subsidizing a bunch of losing real-estate deals . Port Authority cannot *possibly* pay to fix or improve existing infrastructure! They are soo up their ass in debt on their real estate ventures that it would take 50 years to get out from under.

Posted by: Deety Chairwoman of the SOOC at January 02, 2013 11:49 AM (aOVhq)

104 Entitlement mentality.  Not just for welfare queens anymore.

But yeah- smart move, Christie.  I always find that the best way to convince someone to promptly do me a favor with no benefit to themselves is to insult and berate them first.

"Hey, can I borrow five dollars?  WHAT'S TAKING SO LONG YOU IDIOT?"

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 02, 2013 11:49 AM (SY2Kh)

105 We get the govt we deserve. And since the majority electorate is now a dumbed-down collection of idiot FSA factions, our government reflects that. Relief won't come until people wise up and decide they deserve better.

If it weren't for the media, we'd already have a head start on this process. But because of them, it's going to be a lot more painful than it needs to be, when it eventually happens.

Pour fuel on it.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at January 02, 2013 11:49 AM (zpqa2)

106 Sandy bill has $32 billion in pork unrelated to storm damage. Over $300 million to Amtrack? What are they gonna do? Serve their famous hamburgers to Sandy victims?

Posted by: Bump & Run at January 02, 2013 11:49 AM (gC30A)

107 Blog????

Posted by: ontherocks at January 02, 2013 11:50 AM (aZ6ew)

108 so is it christie/crist 2016 or crist/christie 2016?

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 02, 2013 11:50 AM (Z9EHQ)

109 What are they gonna do? Serve their famous hamburgers to Sandy victims?

Not if they cook them with salt, they aren't.

Posted by: Mooch Bloomberg at January 02, 2013 11:51 AM (ZKzrr)

110 88 M. Medved is stating that it's a clear win for Republicans since Bush tax cuts were made permanent and instead of taxes going up 4K they are only going up 1K, so it's a win for 99% of the population. huh? What idiots - many of those 1% will be firing many of the 99% - Business's cannot print money like Ben & Obama can. More taxes mean less jobs. ReallyÂ….

Posted by: redguy at January 02, 2013 11:51 AM (oKH8p)

111 95 In the sockpuppet name URL link window, Phinn, manually add the http:// and then paste the url you want to link into the URL box. It will hot link it in your sockpuppet name like the one currently linked in mine. (There are a few links it won't work for like JPGs but you'll know that when you get an error message after you hit "Post".)

Posted by: andycanuck at January 02, 2013 11:51 AM (jPVBi)

112 so is it christie/crist 2016 or crist/christie 2016? Posted by: yankeefifth at January 02, 2013 03:50 PM (Z9EHQ)


Christie 2016

He's big enough to take up the whole ticket by himself.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i] at January 02, 2013 11:52 AM (sbV1u)

113 Yeah! f**k NY and NJ! I can't be a'bailin them city folk out what lives near water!

Posted by: AnonymousHickCoward at January 02, 2013 11:52 AM (m/d07)

114 Amishdude - I'm sending you a hot toddy, yule log and warm thoughts.You seem a little frigid.

I was the first to discover that it gets cold in Iowa.

The. First. Ever.

Don't believe me?  Look at this campus and ask me how you get from one place to the other without freezing to death:
http://www.fpm.iastate.edu/maps/historic/Y2Kconst.jpg

What kind of imbecile puts a gigantic, useless, empty space in the middle of campus?

Posted by: AmishDude at January 02, 2013 11:52 AM (T0NGe)

115 That fat pants Christie can kiss my ass.

Since Christie helped get this King Dope reelected, maybe he can fly his bloated ass out to Hawaii, kiss Obama's ring and ask him for the money.

Or maybe he can mow Springsteen's grass for a few bucks.

Sorry Jersey. You voted for that Pokeyman resembling governor whose chair you'll have to burn when he leaves office because the stink is so bad. You got him and pay the consequences.

Posted by: marcus at January 02, 2013 11:52 AM (GGCsk)

116 I loathe typing on the iPad. I've got to go through three touches to get to HTML approved tags. But I do enjoy the browsing
much more on this contraption.

Go to Amazon, through the AoSHQ store and buy yourself a capacitive stylus.  Everyone has different shaped fingerpads so finding the "right" spot with your fingers is hit or miss.  I use the stylus on my smart phone and tablets and it is great.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 02, 2013 11:52 AM (kXoT0)

117 99 I loathe typing on the iPad. I've got to go through three touches to get to HTML approved tags. But I do enjoy the browsing much more on this contraption. Did you buy your iPad with Food Stamps?Shoulda tried. It's all the rage. http://tinyurl.com/b922e4p Posted by: beachie at January 02, 2013 03:48 PM (LpQbZ) I missed the distribution times. Must have been due to my job.

Posted by: g w mclintock at January 02, 2013 11:52 AM (Z/UpL)

118

The credit card payment is coming due and they're still running up the tab.

 

Honestly, when you know you're going to declare bankrupcy and run out on the bill, why not max it out? Why even bother to cut spending now when it's most certainly too late to ever climb out?

 

Sort of like when I was a teen - if I was supposed to be home by 11:00 and it was already 12:30, I'd just stay out till 6AM. If you're going to get your ass beat either way, might as well make the most of it.

 

When you already owe more than you can ever pay and you know you won't ever pay, but nobody has cut you off yet because they haven't quite caught on themselves,  why stop spending?

Posted by: Entropy at January 02, 2013 11:52 AM (TULs6)

119 Poor Chrispy Cream is upset he didn't get his money.  Hey fat guy you gave a man hug to your buddy Zero, go hit him up for your cash.  The empathy and sympathy light are out.

Posted by: Jim Scrummy at January 02, 2013 11:53 AM (sbV1u)

120 Post Script: Christie can feel free to shut the fuck up any time now, opportunistic douche nozzle.

Posted by: Heralder at January 02, 2013 11:53 AM (+xmn4)

121 Can't believe it's still a pain in the ass to find an AR-15. Everywhere in my area are still out/not expecting more until four months. Except on gun trader websites where they are marked up 50% from list... used.

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 02, 2013 11:53 AM (UZQM8)

122 ... Ann Coulter hardest hit.

Posted by: Everyone at January 02, 2013 11:53 AM (soeXT)

123

>>>At this point I've stopped worrying about the epochal financial crisis and simply accepted it, and have begun just looking for the silver lining: Well, they'll finally reap what they've long sown.

 

At least there's not going to be much more can-kicking. /hahahaha

Posted by: uterus cannon at January 02, 2013 11:53 AM (3ZtZW)

124

It's about time that disgusting fat man Christie lays down his opposition to correct thinking. He was polite to President Obama, as a mere governor should be to our wise and multiracial President, but now hs is willing to blame the real criminals in American political life. These, of course, are right-wing racist Republicans. I look forward to him soon rebranding himself as a Democrat, as did the respected elder statesman Arlen Specter in the later years of his life.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at January 02, 2013 11:53 AM (jCQ+I)

125 Got my new and improved smaller paycheck today.  It wonderful paying the government more to do more things to me I don't want done.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at January 02, 2013 11:53 AM (epxV4)

126 I envy those of you that can afford to prepare for when civic order fails after our pretended leaders run out of imaginary money. I'm probably dead meat when the looting starts.

Posted by: Cato at January 02, 2013 11:53 AM (GQvSj)

127 Look at this campus and ask me how you get from one place to the other without freezing to death

They didn't tell you about the underground tunnels?

What kind of imbecile puts a gigantic, useless, empty space in the middle of campus?

They used to have cows there.  Serious, I have an antique photo.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 02, 2013 11:53 AM (ZKzrr)

128 What kind of imbecile puts a gigantic, useless, empty space in the middle of campus? Posted by: AmishDude at January 02, 2013 03:52 PM (T0NGe)

Someone from Iowa.

Duh.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i] at January 02, 2013 11:54 AM (sbV1u)

129 ACE,

Can we have a "What's next after the GOP?" thread?

If we magically tell the GOP to go F itself, what next?  Assume a national party (or start locally?) to balance against the Dems. 

What will be different than the current GOP?  Will the platform change?  SoCons out?  FisCons out?  Libertarians in?  Will the money backers change - who goes / who new comes on board?  Will we learn how to GOTV?

Is it the same platform just different leaders (locally and nationally)?  Any moron have some history on the Whigs or comparable change?

Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 02, 2013 11:54 AM (X/+QT)

130 Medved is stating that it's a clear win for Republicans since Bush tax cuts were made permanent and instead of taxes going up 4K they are only going up 1K, so it's a win for 99% of the population. You lost me at "Medved." Oh yes, I'm sure the Republican brand will soar mightily in the next four years, all because of this. I'm not sure, however, that Medved looks very sexy in his cheerleading skirt. What a load of camel shit. You have Santa Claus (D) and Scrooge (R). As if that game were even worth playing. Meanwhile, the vast momentum of growing entitlements and unabated spending propels us into ever deeper levels of dependency on gubmint. Someone tell Medved politics won't solve this. Politics has become a waste of time.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means you don't pay for yourself at January 02, 2013 11:55 AM (Lxw+T)

131 I look forward to him soon rebranding himself as a Democrat, as did the respected elder statesman Arlen Specter in the later years of his life. Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at January 02, 2013 03:53 PM (jCQ+I)

I too look forward to him re-branding himself as a cancer victim.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i] at January 02, 2013 11:55 AM (sbV1u)

132 I can't stand these Federal Aid packages.

Question: Would State Constitutional Amendments banning the stuff be feasible?

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 02, 2013 11:55 AM (UypUQ)

133 111-"What idiots - many of those 1% will be firing many of the 99% - Business's cannot print money like Ben & Obama can. More taxes mean less jobs. ReallyÂ…."

yes, and lets add Obamacare for good measure. That's a business windfall, Aholes... really...

Posted by: up the wazoo at January 02, 2013 11:55 AM (XLuH2)

134 Look at this campus and ask me how you get from one place to the other without freezing to death

Trebuchet?

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 02, 2013 11:55 AM (S/WR4)

135

Sigh.

 

How the hell do you ever put this mess  of a country back together again?

 

Rhetorical question!  You can't and we won't.  We're destined for financial ruin, human misery, and blood. 

 

Happy fucking new year.

 

 

Posted by: Jaws at January 02, 2013 11:55 AM (4I3Uo)

136 Gluttony, not just a river in Egypt.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at January 02, 2013 11:55 AM (AWmfW)

137
Iowa....  A Great Place To Be From

Posted by: fixerupper at January 02, 2013 11:56 AM (nELVU)

138 Can we have a "What's next after the GOP?" thread?

Kratos.  Paging Kratos.  Kratos, please pick up the white courtesy phone....

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 02, 2013 11:56 AM (8y9MW)

139 fuck that fat man

Posted by: we are so screwed, deliver us oh SMOD at January 02, 2013 11:56 AM (HEa5q)

140 BTW, I just want to point out that the untrustworthy, deceitful, irresponsible politician Chris Christie is...a lawyer.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 02, 2013 11:56 AM (T0NGe)

141 So now we can't even agree that pork spending is bad, and something the party shouldn't be for? Is that about right? So called conservatives are now saying we should continue to pork bills up the wazoo and spend away? It's hilarious that we can't even agree on the most basic of shit anymore because our message has been so perverted over the last 12 years.

Posted by: Rich at January 02, 2013 11:56 AM (Aq251)

142 19 I think the basic problem is that we tend to judge things by whether they are true and whether they are logical. Obammy, Christie et al. couldn't care less whether a winning argument is true or logical. We're playing chess and they're in a drunken bar fight with broken beer bottles. It's Bobby Fisher versus Mike Tyson and Bobby Fisher can't give or take a punch. Posted by: WalrusRex at January 02, 2013 03:34 PM (Hx5uv) Thread winner. Although we're not Fischer. We're a poodle that can push the pieces around without chewing the corner of the board much.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at January 02, 2013 11:56 AM (8VOgB)

143 Question: Would State Constitutional Amendments banning the stuff be feasible?

Not in this case.  There's nothing that happens to you, they're just spending more of your money without asking.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 02, 2013 11:57 AM (8y9MW)

144 What bullshit - the democrats lard up every bill and now the Republicans get the blame? Posted by: redguy

Hence, the Stupid Party™.

After years and years of accepting this crap as normal and acceptable the GOP finds itself unable to respond with truth; pork-laden bills hurt all Americans and further graft and corruption.

What a tangled web.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 02, 2013 11:57 AM (KDq5l)

145 Any moron have some history on the Whigs or comparable change? Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 02, 2013 03:54 PM (X/+QT)

Check this out and then tell me that 3d parties are a great idea.

http://tinyurl.com/r2ety3

A better idea is a hostile take-over of the GOP.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i] at January 02, 2013 11:58 AM (sbV1u)

146 Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 02, 2013 03:52 PM (kXoT0) Thank you, Ms/Mrs McEvil

Posted by: g w mclintock at January 02, 2013 11:58 AM (Z/UpL)

147 Question: Would State Constitutional Amendments banning the stuff be feasible?

How many states would try to ban free money?  Turning down disaster relief money would be political suicide.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 02, 2013 11:58 AM (SY2Kh)

148 I heard Peter King on John Gambling's radio show this morning.  He said all the pork had been removed from the bill and Boehner promised him he'd bring it up for a vote.  Then Boehner abruptly announced that all voting was over for the year and King could not reach him.

Posted by: Tami at January 02, 2013 11:58 AM (X6akg)

149 I TOLD all the Fat Bastard RINO butt muchers here the fucker could not be trusted.  I TOLE YA SO!

Posted by: maddogg at January 02, 2013 11:58 AM (OlN4e)

150 I live in NY fucktard.

What kind of stupid, ignorant ass would build a half-million dollar plus home or business on a "barrier island".

What part of fucking "barrier" don't you get?

Adding insult to blatant stupidity...these two states have huge spending problems. But they collected tax money from those "barrier island" idiots all these years.

Yet they need someone else's money to bail them out because...?

I am a little confused how these states reap all the benefits of letting idiots live in place they know are doomed, in the interim reaping all the benefits- then when the inevitable happens WE are all heartless.

What the fuck kind of contra-intellectual, specious, appeals to emotion instead of logic is that?

These people are liberals and they don't even know it...

Posted by: marcus at January 02, 2013 11:58 AM (GGCsk)

151 Rhetorical question! You can't and we won't. We're destined for financial ruin, human misery, and blood.

Happy fucking new year.

Posted by: Jaws at January 02, 2013 03:55 PM (4I3Uo)


-------


WERD.


And if we're going all Armageddon..... sooner rather than later, please.


I dont want to have be all Thunderdome in my seventies.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 02, 2013 11:58 AM (nELVU)

152 128 I envy those of you that can afford to prepare for when civic order fails after our pretended leaders run out of imaginary money. I'm probably dead meat when the looting starts. Posted by: Cato at January 02, 2013 03:53 PM When the levee breaks...they're going to weep and moan.

Posted by: Robert Plant at January 02, 2013 11:59 AM (0JB89)

153 They used to have cows there. Serious, I have an antique photo.

They also used to have parking.  And didn't expect people to go from one end of campus to the other.  Different colleges were in different places.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 02, 2013 11:59 AM (T0NGe)

154 All of this is very cute.

Let's see, we stand on the edge of collapse, we have a dictator in the White House, and now a porculent pussy from a state long known for hoagies and .25 caliber assassinations by greasy assed Sicilians wants to chew into another pussy that would quail at the thought of actually having testicles.

Oh, and we're facing open warfare in the next 90 days.

The pretext will be guns, of course, though that's not what it will be about.  Doesn't matter what the Congress does, if they're still capable of anything. King Barry will do it all by Executive Order.  Just look at his arrogance.  Look at his autocratism.  Look at this demeanor.

Finally, look at his intelligence.

Those who study history sometimes are still doomed to repeat it.

Posted by: Regular Moron staring at the Elephant in the Living Room through his Groucho Nose and Glasses at January 02, 2013 11:59 AM (szUf0)

155
Do you believe King, Tami?

I find it hard to believe that 'all' the pork was removed as King claims.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 02, 2013 11:59 AM (ptD6d)

156 147 Any moron have some history on the Whigs or comparable change? Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 02, 2013 03:54 PM (X/+QT)

Check this out and then tell me that 3d parties are a great idea.

http://tinyurl.com/r2ety3

A better idea is a hostile take-over of the GOP.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 02, 2013 03:58 PM (sbV1u)



That's what I'm trying to figure out.  What does "hostile take-over" really mean?  People?  Platform?  Attitude?  Rules?  Behavior?  Money?  What?

Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 02, 2013 11:59 AM (X/+QT)

157

Arrrrghhhh!

 

Is it just me, or does it seem like only Republicans savage their own party? Oh, Bill Clinton might throw a stinger in once in a great while, but it seems as though Democrats uniformly save their vitriol and criticism for Republicans, while there are always some heroic "maverick" R's who are quite willing to grab a megaphone and trash their own guys. Funny, that.

Posted by: RM at January 02, 2013 12:00 PM (TRsME)

158 Christie is not a republican. He is a RINO, he may be good for NJ but that's it. I hope Booker runs against him and wins. CC better not even think of running for national office. Conservatives do not like him. I firmly believe his ass kissing of SCOAMT had the desired effect on the undecideds that waited for the last minute. He made TFG look presidential for a few hours.

Posted by: CarolT at January 02, 2013 12:00 PM (z4WKX)

159 Although we're not Fischer. We're a poodle that can push the pieces around without chewing the corner of the board much. Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at January 02, 2013 03:56 PM (8VOgB) well, it is less a question of ability than rules of engagement. if you are fighting with one hand behind your back and are acting on the assumption that your competition loves the country and the Constitution and you are only having a disagreement over how to do what is best you behave one way. Once you realize your competitors are interested in destroying your country you loosen the rules. we can win, but we have to realize what is at stake and play to win.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 02, 2013 12:00 PM (Z9EHQ)

160 The Zeitgeist says, "Shaddap and choke on another Krispy Kreme, Christie."....

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 02, 2013 12:00 PM (eHIJJ)

161

It's become painfully obvious that Christie has given up on a Presidential run.  He want's another term as Gov and is going to give those blue state'rs what they want.

Pork.

Posted by: WisRich at January 02, 2013 12:00 PM (hdpay)

162 A better idea is a hostile take-over of the GOP.

I've been hearing that nonsense since the Birchers were still a "force" in right-of-center politics.

We ain't dislodging the Rove/Kristol/RINO axis from their ATM machine (that would be the RNC) anytime soon, kids.

Posted by: DocJ at January 02, 2013 12:00 PM (A5uiv)

163 How many states would try to ban free money? Turning down disaster relief money would be political suicide.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 02, 2013 03:58 PM (SY2Kh)

The law could be structured in such a way that it doesn't go into effect until all or most of the other states enact the same measure... modeled off the state popular vote  laws.

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 02, 2013 12:00 PM (UypUQ)

164 As a conservative New Yorker, I'd like to be the first congratulate you for spending time with 9 - 11 million people and forming a single cohesive opinion about their beliefs. It isn't that difficult. Their cultural ambassadors make it abundantly clear on a regular basis. What's that you say? They don't speak for all of you? It's not fair to judge all of you by the statements of a few? Ask me how much currency I give to that. But only if you can handle course language. In mass amounts. Deal with them, or deal with it.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Lord Commander of the Ampersand Army at January 02, 2013 12:00 PM (GBXon)

165 When you build on the sea shore, it's not a question of IF the sea is gonna come and take it, but WHEN. Why should the taxpayers pay for that stupidity? Fuck them.

Posted by: maddogg at January 02, 2013 12:01 PM (OlN4e)

166 104 Also,for those of you in the Tri-State area ... Your bridges, tunnels, busses and subways are going to get shittier and shittier and more expensive, because you WILL be subsidizing a bunch of losing real-estate deals . Port Authority cannot *possibly* pay to fix or improve existing infrastructure! They are soo up their ass in debt on their real estate ventures that it would take 50 years to get out from under. yeah - most of the houses destroyed were 50-80 years old. A stiff wind would have blown many of then over. I doubt insurance companies will be rushing to let them re-build on the water. If folks did not have insurance then it is there fault and they should be SOL.

Posted by: redguy at January 02, 2013 12:01 PM (oKH8p)

167 How many states would try to ban free money? Turning down disaster relief money would be political suicide.

Actually, I don't see why 48 states pay for disaster relief for two (rich ones).

Posted by: AmishDude at January 02, 2013 12:01 PM (T0NGe)

168 Scott Brown is a Republican because that's how he gets automatic support and funding? In Massachusetts? Not even close to being logical. He's not a hard core conservative of course, but the easiest path to office in MA is definitely not the GOP label.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 02, 2013 12:01 PM (tkoGU)

169 Do you believe King, Tami?

I find it hard to believe that 'all' the pork was removed as King claims.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 02, 2013 03:59 PM (ptD6d)


Well, no....I don't believe ANY of them.  Just reporting what I heard him say.

Posted by: Tami at January 02, 2013 12:01 PM (X6akg)

170

I've always hated the man, so this is no surprise to me. Self serving Prick.

The GOP is dead, they just don't know it yet.

Posted by: spypeach at January 02, 2013 12:02 PM (pwTow)

171 167 When you build on the sea shore, it's not a question of IF the sea is gonna come and take it, but WHEN. Why should the taxpayers pay for that stupidity? Fuck them. Yeah, fuck emÂ…..

Posted by: redguy at January 02, 2013 12:02 PM (oKH8p)

172

Mr. Christy, you embraced President Obama, so I am certain he will return early to tend to your needs, after all, he did say, "no red tape." Perhaps you should switch parties at this point.( I notice you are not outraged at this padded bill, which states volumes.)  John Boehner has been everyone's whipping boy, and you could hardly contain yourself to join the disparaging, demanding mob. All in all, it appears you just do not have enough influence in your own party to get things done.  How disappointing it must be for the Sandy victims.

Posted by: AmberGirl3 at January 02, 2013 12:02 PM (jHSMf)

173 well, it is less a question of ability than rules of engagement. if you are fighting with one hand behind your back and are acting on the assumption that your competition loves the country and the Constitution and you are only having a disagreement over how to do what is best you behave one way. Once you realize your competitors are interested in destroying your country you loosen the rules. we can win, but we have to realize what is at stake and play to win. Oh, to hear the lamentations of their wimmins'.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 02, 2013 12:02 PM (GFM2b)

174 We are going to need a bigger boat

Posted by: Jake in ID at January 02, 2013 12:02 PM (q+zA9)

175 The House had considered a relief bill of around $24 billion, far below the Senate's $60 billion porkfest. In the end, Boner knew that he couldn't get the Senate version through at all, and there was no time to amend it since the Senate was done.
 
So he passed on bringing it to the floor. It's now a job for the 113th Congress, hardly a national crisis there FatBoy.
 
Eat a dick flavored dick, you pompous gasbag.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 02, 2013 12:03 PM (ccXZP)

176 A better idea is a hostile take-over of the GOP. Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 02, 2013 03:58 PM (sbV1u) We are working it at the local level. It just takes time.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 02, 2013 12:03 PM (l86i3)

177 Okay, question... What's the Richter reading on Christie dancing a jig?

Actually, I don't see why 48 states pay for disaster relief for two (rich ones).

I don't see why any State is forced to pay for disaster relief for any other State.  I think it's an insult to Federalism.  Not to mention Government theft.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 02, 2013 12:03 PM (8y9MW)

178 That's what I'm trying to figure out. What does "hostile take-over" really mean? People? Platform? Attitude? Rules? Behavior? Money? What?  Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 02, 2013 03:59 PM (X/+QT)

Yes.

As in, "all of the above"  Look, if I had all the answers I'd be running a consulting firm on K St. and charging these idiots top dollar.  I don't have all the answers.

But I think you build momentum at the state level - BTW we're not doing too badly there - and then those governors will be pressuring the GOP "elite" for some common sense conservatism.  What we need is the party infrastructure, what we don't need is the people who are currently running the infrastructure.  

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i] at January 02, 2013 12:03 PM (sbV1u)

179 Actually, I don't see why 48 states pay for disaster relief for two (rich ones).

Because you're a big meanie who hates The Children.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 02, 2013 12:04 PM (SY2Kh)

180 Her's my suggestion; pass a bill that makes all these states who allow building in low-lying flood plains and other disaster prone areas hold that tax money in custody or Federal assistance is NOT available.

Shit, I'll even throw in matching Federal Disaster funds if that happens.

Let's see how much building they do then?

Posted by: marcus at January 02, 2013 12:05 PM (GGCsk)

181 Even if we could hostile takeover the GOP, the effin brand is dead, killed by the RINO's and pissed-on aftterward by the MFM. Who would carjack a Yugo?

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at January 02, 2013 12:05 PM (zpqa2)

182 We are working it at the local level. It just takes time. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 02, 2013 04:03 PM (l86i3)

That's really what I am saying.  It's going to be a long, hard slog.

Starting with town council and school board races.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i] at January 02, 2013 12:05 PM (sbV1u)

183 so you'd have a "more conservative" GOP (however defined, whether it's more rhetoric than substance...) that would then split into more groups of people claiming to be more conservative-than-thou. Posted by: JDP at January 02, 2013 04:04 PM (60GaT)

So you mean it will be like this blog?

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i] at January 02, 2013 12:06 PM (sbV1u)

184 Let's see how much building they do then? Posted by: marcus at January 02, 2013 04:05 PM (GGCsk) If you can afford a house on the beach, you don't need my FKN money. Self insure or move inland.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 02, 2013 12:06 PM (l86i3)

185 Christie has had his giant undies in a wad since Hostess went under.

Posted by: The Jackhole at January 02, 2013 12:06 PM (nTgAI)

186 Thank you, Ms/Mrs McEvil

Posted by: g w mclintock at January 02, 2013 03:58 PM (Z/UpL)

You are most welcome.  I am definitely Mrs.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 02, 2013 12:06 PM (kXoT0)

187 Because you're a big meanie who hates The Children. I wasn't involved in the drunken fun of making 'em. Don't expect me to pay the tab of raising 'em.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 02, 2013 12:06 PM (GFM2b)

188 Actually, I don't see why 48 states pay for disaster relief for two (rich ones). ================================== Shut the FUCK UP, they explained.

Posted by: Your Betters in Government at January 02, 2013 12:08 PM (jucos)

189 so you'd have a "more conservative" GOP (however defined, whether it's more rhetoric than substance...) that would then split into more groups of people claiming to be more conservative-than-thou.

I think almost all of the problem we "trucons" have against the GOP is in action.  That is, they say the right things (more or less) on the campaign trail, and then fail to stand up for those things once they're in office.

All I really want is actual adherence to the conservative principles of the party, and a willingness to "be the bad guy" when necessary.  If you're the only one who ever flinches, the other guy's favored contest is going to be playing Chicken.  Sometimes, you have to be willing to take the crash.  Eventually, they'll get the point, and we'll be able to make some progress.

So I don't know that we need to massively remake the party platform or anything like that.  We do need to make sure those at the local level live up to their promises and start moving that type of accountability up the chain.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 02, 2013 12:08 PM (8y9MW)

190 Christie has had his giant undies in a wad since Hostess went under. Posted by: The Jackhole at January 02, 2013 04:06 PM (nTgAI) Oh, like he doesn't have a shipping container of that stuff buried in his back yard.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 02, 2013 12:08 PM (l86i3)

191

"I mean, why blame Republicans? Why not blame Democrats?"

 

THIS is what gnaws at me. Blast the representatives for not getting it done if you feel you have to do it to maintain political viability. He is the Governor of NJ. But at least take the opportunity to add in a few shots at Democrats who have taken advantage of a national humanitarian crisis to lard up the bill with pure pork and thus prevent prompt action, etc., etc. He is also supposed to be a member of the Republican party.

Posted by: RM at January 02, 2013 12:08 PM (TRsME)

192 Chris who?

Posted by: King Barky at January 02, 2013 12:08 PM (ZWaLo)

193

we can win, but we have to realize what is at stake and play to win.

 

You will never win, not least because you still don't understand who 'we' is.

Posted by: Entropy at January 02, 2013 12:09 PM (TULs6)

194 "A better idea is a hostile take-over of the GOP." Isn't that what the Tea Party tried to do? That doesn't sounds like a good idea. The GOP is poised to make gains in the midterm, given the smaller, older electorate. Instead of a hostile takeover, I think they need to bury the hatchet, maybe pick some new leaders and head into the next election cycle as a united front.

Posted by: Jordan at January 02, 2013 12:09 PM (Hz1zc)

195 Where's my dollah?

Posted by: Chris Christie at January 02, 2013 12:09 PM (ZWaLo)

196 Chris who? Posted by: King Barky at January 02, 2013 04:08 PM (ZWaLo) You know, the fat guy you sodomized in Jersey.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 02, 2013 12:09 PM (l86i3)

197 . 147 Any moron have some history on the Whigs or comparable change? Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 02, 2013 03:54 PM (X/+QT) Check this out and then tell me that 3d parties are a great idea. http://tinyurl.com/r2ety3 A better idea is a hostile take-over of the GOP. Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 02, 2013 03:58 PM (sbV1u) ****************** I disagree. I haven't read the link yet, but I *think* I understand most of the risk of multiparty government pretty well. I believe the Republican and TEA brands are too damaged to take over (Pubbies) or use (TEA). I think a supercharged Constitution party or some such wold be better than trying to overcome the horrendous reputation the Republican Party now has. YMMV, as always

Posted by: Boomer Redneque, Mobile Edition (Team LIB) at January 02, 2013 12:10 PM (H+OjH)

198 These two tools are doing the reflexive political thing: appealing to the liberals in their states, and...

Oh, screw them, they're venal cowards.

Posted by: PJ at January 02, 2013 12:10 PM (ZWaLo)

199 That's really what I am saying. It's going to be a long, hard slog.
Starting with town council and school board races.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 02, 2013 04:05 PM (sbV1u)

Election board first.  It is literally where all power starts.  If your elections are fairly adjudicated, then Republicans win on ideas.   The GOP lets the DIMs count the votes and they wonder why they lose--especially on recounts of Federal elections.  Corrupt election boards let votes be found until the DIM wins.  When was the last time a GOP candidate won a national level recount?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 02, 2013 12:10 PM (kXoT0)

200 we can win, but we have to realize what is at stake and play to win. You will never win, not least because you still don't understand who 'we' is. Posted by: Entropy at January 02, 2013 04:09 PM (TULs6) you apparently do not understand who I am.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 02, 2013 12:10 PM (Z9EHQ)

201 You know, the fat guy you sodomized in Jersey. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 02, 2013 04:09 PM (l86i3) he is nearly sodomy proof.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 02, 2013 12:11 PM (Z9EHQ)

202 Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 02, 2013 04:06 PM (kXoT0) ----------------------------------------------------------- Any relation to LuCretia McEvil?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 02, 2013 12:12 PM (jucos)

203

Yea, but you know, Christie is soooo much smarter than Palin and a better Politician too! 

 

Ace told me so.

Posted by: WisRich at January 02, 2013 12:13 PM (hdpay)

204 he is nearly sodomy proof. Posted by: yankeefifth at January 02, 2013 04:11 PM (Z9EHQ)

That's because you first have to roll him in flour to find the wet spot.

The problem is that there isn't that much flour on the East Coast.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i] at January 02, 2013 12:13 PM (sbV1u)

205 BethinPA: "He should give Obama another hug. I hear if you squeeze him hard enough, free birth control pills shoot out of his ears."

I laughed at that one. Please donate it to Hadji the Muslim Comic. I'd like to see what he can do to it.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 02, 2013 12:14 PM (eHIJJ)

206 The only way the traditional RINO wing of the GOP (Rove, Kristol, Bushes, etc) goes away is if their funding dries up because the brand is found to be "totaled".

Way to many elitists and professional skimmers make a living off of that carcass as it is.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 02, 2013 12:14 PM (aZ6ew)

207 You know, the fat guy you sodomized in Jersey. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 02, 2013 04:09 PM (l86i3) he is nearly sodomy proof. Posted by: yankeefifth at January 02, 2013 04:11 PM (Z9EHQ) -------------------------------------------------------------- I wouldn't be so sure

Posted by: Peter North at January 02, 2013 12:14 PM (jucos)

208 chris christie, the ned beatty of republican politics.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 02, 2013 12:14 PM (Z9EHQ)

209 Okay, I don't think it's cool to take swats at Ace for hyping Christie way back 9 months ago (or however long it was).  (Not serious ones, anyway)

For one thing, a whole heck of a lot of people thought Christie was going to be the second coming of Reagan.  So... at least he's not alone there.

For another, it's not like we knew that Christie was just using the Republican party so he would have an easier primary.  If Christie's fellating TFG just before the election didn't make it clear enough, I think this demonstrates that Christie is reflexively antagonistic toward Republicans.

I haven't seen Ace singing Christie's praises for quite a while, now.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 02, 2013 12:17 PM (8y9MW)

210

Chris Christie? Isn't he the guy who appeared in the Obama ad right before the election?

 

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at January 02, 2013 12:17 PM (n8LUb)

211 Hey Christie. I want my fucking harpoon back!

Posted by: Queequeg at January 02, 2013 12:17 PM (RNijH)

212 Allow me to be the middle person to say I Told You So.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at January 02, 2013 12:17 PM (YZizW)

213 Take a powder, Fatman. Your pushy Yankee bombast grew old long ago. How did I know this guy was just another obnoxious New Jersey blowhard? Does that state produce anything but? The Garden State. Yeah, if you're growing mushrooms in bullshit.

Posted by: General Zod at January 02, 2013 12:17 PM (2+bRt)

214

Also,for those of you in the Tri-State area ...

What tri-state area? You don't think there's only 1 tri-state area do you?

 

I am in the tri-state area. Illinois, Wisconsin and Indiana.

Posted by: Entropy at January 02, 2013 12:18 PM (TULs6)

215

It isn't that difficult. Their cultural ambassadors make it abundantly clear on a regular basis.

What's that you say? They don't speak for all of you? It's not fair to judge all of you by the statements of a few?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Lord Commander of the Ampersand Army at January 02, 2013 04:00 PM (GBXon)


Excellent, I think this statement should be examined next time someone makes a derogatory comment about the "flyover" states and the people in them. 

 

Posted by: Heralder at January 02, 2013 12:18 PM (+xmn4)

216 well, it is less a question of ability than rules of engagement. if you are fighting with one hand behind your back and are acting on the assumption that your competition loves the country and the Constitution and you are only having a disagreement over how to do what is best you behave one way. Once you realize your competitors are interested in destroying your country you loosen the rules. we can win, but we have to realize what is at stake and play to win. Yes. We have to start stealing elections from baby-murdering thugs. Until we address election integrity and start stealing better than them, nothing else matters.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at January 02, 2013 12:20 PM (8VOgB)

217 Boomer Redneque, you have to discredit the MFM before you can have a brand that's not 'too damaged to use,' IME.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at January 02, 2013 12:22 PM (YZizW)

218

you apparently do not understand who I am.

 

Do you know who I am?

Posted by: Entropy at January 02, 2013 12:22 PM (TULs6)

219 Chris Chrisie is, basically, a true provincial. He honestly thinks that Bruce Springsteen is fucking relevant! Yeah, I spent an entire decade of my life not giving a fuck about "The Boss". Also, John Couger Mellencamp struck me as a pretentious tool. When I was 12. It is unseemly for a grown man to be all giggly about a fucking singer.

Posted by: Deety Chairwoman of the SOOC at January 02, 2013 12:25 PM (aOVhq)

220 you apparently do not understand who I am. Do you know who I am? Posted by: Entropy at January 02, 2013 04:22 PM (TULs6) you seem to be thinking entropy only goes one way.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 02, 2013 12:25 PM (Z9EHQ)

221

Rule of thumb:

If William Kristol is pushing him/it, it's probably bad for limited government. (Note, this does not mean that the converse of this rule is necessarily true.)

The Chris Christie honeymoon was an excellent example of what cheap dates Republicans are: a few youtube videos and he's suddenly a tough-talking, limited government hero.  Nevermind his actual record.

Posted by: MlR at January 02, 2013 12:27 PM (vR2l5)

222 223 you apparently do not understand who I am. Do you know who I am? Posted by: Entropy at January 02, 2013 04:22 PM (TULs6) ******************* A bitch!

Posted by: Boomer Redneque, Mobile Edition (Team LIB) at January 02, 2013 12:28 PM (H+OjH)

223 Truman, I don't think we can win a cheating war because of MFM and bureaucracy dominance. We do need to expose the cheating, we need confessions more than prosecution, and we need to harp on the institutionalized fraud. . Unfortunately the GOP has preemptively surrendered.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at January 02, 2013 12:29 PM (YZizW)

224 Vindicated in never buying into Crispy Creme as a "rock star Republican" and always recognizing him as a sellout, weak-willed, loudmouth RINO POS.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 02, 2013 12:30 PM (LShqr)

225 222 Boomer Redneque, you have to discredit execute the MFM before you can have a brand that's not 'too damaged to use,' IME. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at January 02, 2013 04:22 PM (YZizW) ************* FIFY while agreeing with you

Posted by: Boomer Redneque, Mobile Edition (Team LIB) at January 02, 2013 12:30 PM (H+OjH)

226
“When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will like the strong horse.”

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 02, 2013 12:32 PM (kdS6q)

227 I don't recall Congress passing any "relief" spending bills for Texas after we got hit by Hurricane Ike a few years back.  And Sandy was no more powerful a storm than Ike was, and by all accounts I've heard the NY/NJ areas did not get hit any worse than we did.  And to be perfectly frank, we didn't need it.  Oh, I'm sure there was some FEMA money passed around to the usual "vulnable" people, but that was it.  And Christie is going to whine because some pork laden bill didn't pass?  Fuck 'em all.

Posted by: Cave Bear at January 02, 2013 12:32 PM (uMihF)

228 New thread

Posted by: Boomer Redneque, Mobile Edition (Team LIB) at January 02, 2013 12:33 PM (H+OjH)

229 Not that I give much thought to Christie, but the more I think of it, he's more of a liberal than a RINO.  Libs are great at demonizing 'the other' (Teachers Unions) in order to get advance their fortunes.

I've never seen a RINO/GOP that good at demonizing something which should be demonized.  This demonstrated skill might be a 'tell', methinks.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 02, 2013 12:35 PM (X/+QT)

230 Cantor should step and and tell Christie to kiss his ass.  Tell him, your love affair with Obama giving him a fat ass hug right before the election meant the destruction of America as we know it, therefore you and your liberal loving state won't see a dime until you can come up with more than an equal amount of spending cuts to offset it.

Posted by: doug at January 02, 2013 12:40 PM (uJ8q7)

231 Never trust a fat glutton.

Posted by: demoncrat at January 02, 2013 01:15 PM (bSpTg)

232 The big winner today was Marco Rubio.

Posted by: james at January 02, 2013 01:22 PM (IoTd/)

233

Damn, Christie is letting his Democrat out again!!

 

Posted by: gDavid at January 02, 2013 01:29 PM (0vt1W)

234 FUCK YOU CHRISTIE YOU FAT FUCK!

ITS BECAUSE OF YOU AND AIKIN AND MURDOCK THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH 4 MORE YEARS OF THE MOTHER FUCKING SCOAMF!

ROT IN HELL YOU FAT FUCK!


Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 02, 2013 01:32 PM (+OTLF)

235 P.S. GO FUCKING HUG OBAMA IF YOU NEED MORE MONEY!

BUT YOU BETTER HURRY I HEAR HE IS HEADING BACK FOR SOME BODY SURFING IN HA HA WA II

RUN FAT BOY RUN!

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 02, 2013 01:33 PM (+OTLF)

236 Man I cant wait for the Ogrish.com explicit content video of this fat fuck choking to death on lunch one day in the near future.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 02, 2013 01:34 PM (+OTLF)

237 This site championed Christie and called people names who dared not support him as well. YOU WERE WRONG.

Posted by: Dan at January 02, 2013 02:04 PM (/7gN/)

238 Krispy Kreme needs to clean up the "Obama" that remains stuck to his lips. That stuff is a bitch to get off!

Posted by: WVinMN at January 02, 2013 02:27 PM (4Pleu)

239 197 You will never win, not least because you still don't understand who 'we' is. - Demographically, "we" are 90% white, and more-than-chance male, working class and rural. (This last because whites have been driven out of their cities, such as Detroit.) Also, heavily gun owners, religious, and relatively socially conservative. If your conservative party doesn't defend that "us" it's like a general that thinks he can let his army be killed and win because he's a genius.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at January 02, 2013 04:38 PM (7UXGr)

240 Chris Christie has more in common with us than we thought He too prefers Barack Obama to Republicans like Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan

Posted by: SoCons at January 02, 2013 05:49 PM (fgbiK)

241 Why doesn't EVERY homeowner who has a damaged home get it paid for by his fellow taxpayers?

I mean, if the folks who got flooded in Sandy are eligible for all kinds of gubmint assistance, why not the family at the end of Goose Creek, Anywhere USA, after the latest thunderstorm? Or the poor sods whose house was crashed into by a drunken driver?

Why are only hurricane and tornado victims reaping the bonanza of Public Aid???

I mean, if you follow the logic, No One should Ever Have To Suffer Any Misfortune. (Except, of course, the poor sods who have to PAY for it all, over and over.)

Posted by: beverly at January 02, 2013 07:00 PM (AtjNT)

242 FWIW, A lot of New York Metropolitan residents, republican and democrat agree with Christie. And the republican and democratic representatives were all over the media today, a unified force, complaining bitterly. Most did say that the pork could be eliminated from the bill and have it just be aid to the storm victims. If you think Christie was pissed, remember, you haven't heard from Andrew Cuomo yet. My guess is that Andrew is angrier than Christie and Christie took the first shot because Cuomo doesn't mince words and for the first discussion of this they wanted something intelligible cause Cuomo was so angry his statement would probably have a few words that wouldn't make sense among the bleeps. BTW, a hurricane has never, historically, made landfall in Jersey. People blocks in from the water in Staten Island have never seen water up to their second floors. And the people who were hit the worst were middle class.

Posted by: Caustic at January 02, 2013 07:50 PM (/b8+5)

243 Posted by: beverly at January 02, 2013 11:00 PM (AtjNT) America is not this mean spirited. In small farming communities people when your house or barn burned down got together and rebuilt your house or barn. Insurance did not cover this. You had to have very expensive flood insurance. Would you, being middle class, spend 8 grand per anum on flood insurance when you know your area has never ever been hit by a flood during any hurricane?

Posted by: Caustic at January 02, 2013 07:53 PM (/b8+5)

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