Still screwed.

SNAFU, y'all.

Posted by: RWC at March 27, 2013 10:16 AM (fWAjv)

*thump thump thump*

Nope,  my Give-A-Shit-O-Meter   still hasn't moved.

So Ziegler was sympathetic to Sandusky and his stench fouled Mister Lauer and the hideous show he hosts. That's what you get for working for a pedo-friendly network,  Lauer.

Huh. Maybe I *am* out of touch with the "culture."

That's my solution: this culture belongs to someone else and I refuse to pay any attention to it anymore. It doesn't even begin to cater to me or my beliefs or  my interests.

And I seem to have some company. I ran across a headline this AM that said the Big Three  network's  ratings were down while cable-only station's ratings were going up.

Good.

That show would be awesome, oh dear God I hope they make it happen. If CNN is unwatchable now, just wait for the ratings bomb that would be.

In the 1940s, there was an actress named Vera Hruba Ralston.  She starred in a series of skating pictures put out by Republic Studios, a Poverty Row outfit.  None of her movies made money, and no one understood why the studio had so much invested in her.

Until it was revealed that she was the girlfriend of the studio head.

Kathy Griffin must be like that.  She has to be someone's bed toy.  How can anyone actually say they like her?  It's like saying, "you know, given the choice between flesh-eating bacteria on my johnson and a hummer from Margaret Cho, I'd go with the bacteria any time."

Well if there's anything to be had from it, I think it's that Cooper didn't really like working with Griffin, so he'll be miserable.

I don't know why I find that so wonderful to be honest, I mean Cooper hasn't done anything awful like the "British Blowhard whose name shall not be spoken." (spit).

If anything more recently he's been busy making the administration look dumb.

But this can be his punishment for doing that 4 years to late.

Anderson Cooper (now in 360!) and Kathy Griffin....together?  On a TeeVee show?

...thud....

And now, just now, someone is tumbling to the fact that Matt Lauer is an imbecile, and is unlikable, and is getting poor ratings?

Bring back perky Katy Couric!!

You know,  in a real world, Matt Lauer should be grateful he "worked" for years at   25 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR doing something as stupid as the Today Show.  What an entitled pimp.

#55  I know, I know.  He's just another extreme lib in a left leaning moderate's clothing.  I just didn't think he was a dairy queen. 

I had a brief but insightful brush with marketing guys at a local radio station down here a couple of years ago. I was in a band with the two morning DJ's and got to hear stories of their battles with younger marketing idiots who insisted on catering to what they thought was a good market.

That market was the "idiot male" demographic. The morning guys were in their 40's and knew better about how the world actually worked, and wanted to go with more mature humor and less fart jokes.

The morning  guys eventually lost, and  now the station has been turned into a talk radio station that carries Hannity in the PM slot. It was originally a classic rock station, but they only   played  the same 20 tunes over and over and over again,  so we really didn't lose anything.

Columbo?

OK, anybody goes OT they gotta say "One more thing...."

Posted by: kallisto at March 27, 2013 10:20 AM (jm/9g)

What is the deal with Ziegler anyway?  He did a sympathetic video on Palin a few years ago but he was creeping me out while he was doing it.  Some people just look that way and can't help it so maybe I should be more sympathetic.  But I don't know what to think about this deal with Sandusky.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 27, 2013 10:39 AM (/kI1Q)

GE still is part owner but ComCast is in negotiations to buy the rest of it.

This is all too painful and stupid to watch.  So I will stop watching.

A few years ago we were at a friend's house for New Year's Eve, and he mentioned that Kathy Griffin and Anderson Cooper were going to be on some TV dreck fest leading up to the "ball drop" at Times Square, and they were such a hoot together.

Switched the TV on, and Kathy had just taken off her blouse and had just a black bra on (above the waist).  The kids were in the room (yeah, those innocent little shits) and he quickly changed the station.  I just about busted a gut holding in the laughter.  Kathy Griffin is an obnoxious and ignorant scrunt, so I hope this will be an epic fail and money loser for CNN.

Thanks again for watching.

18I would rather have a sharp stick in the eye than watch ANYTHING with Kathy Griffin. Just saying.

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How about a show of Kathy Griffin getting a sharp stick in the eye?

Who is Matt Lauer and why should I give a rat's ass how large his golden parachute is?

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2013 10:37 AM (GQ8sn)

Dicks? They use her to change gearbox fluid.

When this show hit's it out of the park like Lena Dumbham's Girls, you'll all be sorry...

I watched just a couple of snippets from the new Girls series and it is truly depressing.  And since that is the "zeitgeist" of the old media broads they will probably go for the equally depressing Kathy Griffin.

Keep boycotting NBC. The leftwing suck is trickle down at that corrupt prog shithole.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 27, 2013 10:39 AM (KqmXZ)

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That's the dumb ass part. Even worse is the on-air giggling - the annoying stupid f--- part.

I think the future of  mainstream media is...  wait for it... Balkanization.  Sorry.

It seems  that networks are more inclined these days to abandon any pretenses  of objectivity and have decided to just provide their viewers with programming that confirms their prejudices.  For example - look at Jake Tapper's new show on CNN - terrible ratings.  Sub-Olbermann  territory.  And I think it's because CNN's viewers (incorrectly) see him as a conservative  for daring to occasionally ask  Obama's  mouthpiece  a tough  question. 

There's no market at CNN for Jake Tapper.  But for Kathy Griffin,  who is not afraid to spew the most vile and vulgar  slurs against  Republicans?  They  think they can sell that shit.

In a way, I'm kind of glad.  Objectivity in journalism has always been a lie.  I'd prefer to get my news from outlets that don't insult my intelligence.  Or  that come with the slant  I would prefer.  Because otherwise, I'm just not watching.

It was originally a classic rock station, but they only played the same 20 tunes over and over and over again, so we really didn't lose anything.

Oh, God.  We've got one of those in the Boston area.  Let me guess a few of the "tunes:"

Stairway to Heaven

Night Moves

Did I miss any?

So, I'm being sincere here: What argument--legal, logical or otherwise--do we have, would we have to defend those churches and businesses that refuse to serve gays?

They're private institutions and can do as they please. They take no federal dollars.

They're like bars who can refuse service to anyone.

And lastly, they have the right  to say, "No,  the federal government has no right to tell me how to  operate  my business  nor whom I choose to have as a  customer,"  as do we all.

I shall officially nickname the Cooper/Griffin team - Fudgepacky and Unfuckable. A subtle reference to their personalities.

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i DEMAND top Billing over a bottom

They air the same tired crap with the same tired actors, which Matt Lauer is.

Even when they bring in new actors they in fact are the same old tired actors as those they replaced.  With Kathy Griffin they will not only go from A-list to B-list but straight to D-list.

Did I miss any?

Sadly, no.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at March 27, 2013 10:42 AM (AWmfW)

Well, I guess we all know who's going to be called next time there's an oil spill somewhere.

Kathy Griffin and Anderson Cooper together in a show.

Oh... God.   Someone point me at a wandering rapist.  I need to throw up.

:::But go ahead and believe that nobody watches network TV.

Nobody = millions, evidently. :::

Who are you responding to?  Where was this said?

Matt Lauer gets 25 million a year? Obviously he can't possibly be in touch with the population and while that is a plus for a movie star do we really want our "news hosts" living with the jet set?

This is the biggest change in the fortunes of high exposure journalists and news readers  in the last decade or so.  As soon as they become the rich and powerful they become the story and everything else, no matter how earth shattering, is secondary.  The audience senses that and stops taking them serious.

Besides, with that sort of money after a few years wouldn't you be set up for life?  He certainly will not have to work ever again.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 27, 2013 10:41 AM (VjL9S)

As I understand it the current convention is are you "public" the lunch counter is a public restaurant, so it can't discriminate.

Churches are decidedly not "public."  Catholic Churches only perform Catholic Weddings, as long as they stick to that there's a line in the sand.

Now this doesn't mean we can just sit back.  We have to actively defend these rights as well.

Jake Tapper knows of/reads/has made reference to Ace of Spades HQ.

If Ace is going to make the leap to pundit, Tapper is the opening.  While Wolf inteviews Frum to get the "buzz" from the right-wing websites, Tapper could be getting the real deal from Ace.

I'm certain Ace's manager is on this.

Maybe they can cover this on their new show: 

From Daily Mail: 

Kyle Kester, a 38-year-old Minnesota native, moved to a remote part of Guadalajara, Mexico, and built there a 6,000-square-foot estate, where he was found murdered during a home invasion in February. The suspects in the murder, a pair of teenagers and a 21-year-old whom Kester had hired to install an irrigation system, were captured on a surveillance video. The teens were arrested, but the older of the three alleged perpetrators is believed to have fled to the US.

Hello from Sydney Down Under on a very warm autumn early morning

Thankfully I don't know many of these people inhabiting your telly screens - we have enough of our own obnoxious ones here

A confession though - years ago I used to watch Katie Couric and Matt Lauer on  late night telly here (before we had cable TV)

I also saw them broadcast from the Sydney Olympics - I'm ashamed to say I wasted an hour or so in front of their outdoor setup at Olympic Park

This was before my political awakening .....

Actually I doubt they will need a federal law to force churches to marry them, they'll just start suing the churches individually. One that begins, other churches will voluntarily submit.

We got into that aspect yesterday, IIRC. The biggest danger I see,   which seems to be the  case in more of these lawsuits, is organizations who succumb to the pressure of leftist groups  instead of going to court and citing the freedom of association   right we have.  How hard is it to convice a  jury that an overweening group of busybodies could come for them next?

I hate to think it's cheaper to give in,  especially when the law is clear on the issue.

BTW, if anyone's interested, I actually posted something today over at my little slice of Intarwebz Heaven about this, kinda sorta. Click  teh nic...

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at March 27, 2013 11:02 AM (NmR1a)

They could tour with the Cunning Linguists.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 27, 2013 11:04 AM (+z4pE)

Find your hill to die on or be content being slaughtered in the valley.

"...someone will have the opportunity to be the "new breitbart" and Ben Shapiro God love him ain't it."

Maybe with a shave and a haircut Ace would be a bit more photogenic.  We still don't know if he speaks with a pronounced lisp.

 Allo, aussie!

Posted by: aussie at March 27, 2013 11:04 AM (icrXx)

There there.   Many   an   American has wasted countless hours    watching either or both of them   on the "Today" show,    during    the     Macy's   Thanksgiving Day Parade,    during the Olympics...   

We need to create a support group.     "How I learned to stop worrying and excommunicate (insert media personality name here) from my     life." 

Fire him, don't fire him, does anyone really think he cares?

Actually yes.  These mega-ego dipshits believe they deserve to be on tv and no one should be able to kick them off.  So he's going to care.  Just like the bathtub boy cares as well.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 27, 2013 11:07 AM (csi6Y)

Volokh's cover the case of a wedding photographer who doesn't want to photograph a Gay wedding that I think throws a bit of a wrench in this.

There are degrees, if your business is the business of art (i.e. speech) you have the right to make sure you only promote such speech as you are willing.

If you sling hash, why are you asking about a dude's sexuality. (FWIW, the church argument is the same as the speech argument.  Religious weddings are a form of speech, and the church cannot be compelled into speech it doesn't agree with.)

@188

To be fair though, if 20th century history teaches us nothing else its that dead socailists tend to solve a lot of problems. Its the live ones who cause all the troubles.

If you go to the Lauer link, Ziegler says the rape in the shower at Penn State was a "botched grooming."

Depends on how they're using the term "grooming."   And in either case, I don't like the answer.

186 MWR

G'day

Great idea - I have stopped watching all news shows - get all my news from blogs and online news sites

My  TV viewing these days is almost always sporty stuff ( now at 2am I'm watching cycling from Belgium on Eurosport)

Men in Lycra!!!!'

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at March 27, 2013 11:08 AM (yn6XZ)

Or as my recently departed italian cousin would say "Eh, I smacka you"

Are we back to relitigating the CRA again?

I understad the intentions, and while noble (at the outset) I don't think the government should have a say on what you think. If you want to be a bigot and turn down money, by all  means do so. Do you think you're competition will? How about your customers?

If government can compel people how to think, where does it stop?

@221

Dead Hitler would be a popular one I bet

I awakened to an Aussie licking my face. He was scared of the garbage truck...or as they say in Austria, the Dustman.

No, not the dustman, that's Pommy.  The right term is garbo.

>> Dead Caeucesceau

You, Jerry Seinfeld, are no Comedian.

It amazes me that these super rich people crave fame. Why? It can't bring you more than all that cash can.

It's all Ego, all the time.

And, not suprisingly, the same motivation for politicians. Except their egos are a bit larger and far more sinister. The perverse pleasure they derive from controlling others   is positively  orgasmic for them. To the rest  of us normal folk, they're just ill.

Posted by: Ed Anger on his phone at March 27, 2013 11:19 AM (hRoUw)

Oh, I missed this story but glad to hear he's doing well! 

228 Big Fat Meanie

I think you'll find that typical LIVs love their celebrities and don't give a brass razoo about how much money they earn

The bad rich guys are not celebs....

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 11:20 AM (LRFds)

I'm not sure he's said anything that pisses me off more. Come say that to my face asshole. Yeah, come right on down to where I work as the 4th generation in a family business, 70+ years, started out of a damn garage. Pretty please TFG, come say it.

Good to hear that, EdAnger. 

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2013 11:13 AM (GQ8sn)

Renting an apartment is not speech, so while IANAL, this sounds wrong. But I suppose it's how the person justifies it.  Are we going to say that someone has to rent an apartment to a person who can't pay? Or is too loud (and disrupts other tenants?)  The argument made in public may not have been the argument made in the court room.

Having said that, it depends also on what is an "apartment."  There is broad court protections for being able to chose who you want to rent to if there is shared space, and I think this is important.  A person should totally have the right to choose their "roommates" (which I would broadly construe personally.)  A young conservative woman should not be forced to rent a room to Sandra Fluke.

Maybe with a shave and a haircut Ace would be a bit more photogenic. We still don't know if he speaks with a pronounced lisp.

Ace definitely has a face and voice for radio.  On the other hand Pat Caddell has a TV career.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 27, 2013 11:22 AM (csi6Y)

So, fuck my right to conduct my business as I see fit, as long as you feel better that someone, somewhere won't face the possibility of not eating where they want to.

@245

Preciesely. Why not a dude and his goat? Nobody harmed there. Some people like to have sex with cars. No joke. Right up the tailpipe. Am I supposed to legitimize the union between a man and his Datsun?

What about pederasses? Maybe they are misunderstood.

If you want to make everyone under the law equal, fine. No more legal marrige consequences. Of course, that means an end to most social engineering programns.

>>Ace definitely has a face and voice for radio. On the other hand Pat Caddell has a TV career.

If Ace had a chin-merkin like that, he could get some air time, too.

Oh, I missed this story but glad to hear he's doing well!

Same here. Wish your dad well for us.

Because I don't want turning away blacks from lunch counters to become perfectly legal.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 27, 2013 11:22 AM (csi6Y)

You sure seem content to allow religious views to become perfectly illegal.

@247

I don't know. If I went to a black owned business and they said no honkies I'm not sure I'd want to eat there anyway.

Please just turn me away. I may give a hearty "Fuck you" as I leave, but at least they wouldn't get my money and I wouldn't ingest thier semen.

Posted by: buzzion at March 27, 2013 11:27 AM (GULKT)

I look forward to the day when our muslim overlords revisit our idea of tolerance.

I think the biggest problem facing western civ is our crisis of confidence. We no longer believe in who we are. No one wants to be a judgemental asshole.

@276

Nail on the head. Hit it you did.

@281

I do love how the multicultis who promote homosexual marriage also promote muslim immigrants. France now is doing the whole gay marriage thing. I wonder if that will be revisited in 10 to 15 years when the population is majority muslim.

Public stonings near the Arc de Triumph?

#257 His father happens to be a Dr. who is legally obligated to report such a thing -- if he believed what his son said, that is.

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That's not quite the standard.

A doctor (as do any other number of medical or social workers) has a legal obligation to report medical injuries or conditions they personally suspect may be related to sexual or physical abuse of a minor they've examined. 

Physicians reporting what amounts to hearsay about sexual abuse isn't prohibited, but it also isn't a legal obligation.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 27, 2013 11:28 AM (csi6Y)

So only churches have religious views?  And not the individuals who attend those churches?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 27, 2013 11:33 AM (sbV1u)

The next opening salvo will probably occur in TX.  I'll join Davy Crockett then,  The rest of the country can go to hell, I'm going to TX.

He misspelled "DNA." Which you would think would be an easy one. It's spelled the way it sounds.

Someone should call 911. Quick, what's the number?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 27, 2013 11:37 AM (sbV1u)

I do too, but wifey refuses to even listen to any word of WY.  Its too cold!

But she is originally from TX so she'll listen to that.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 11:20 AM (LRFds)

I think this is unfair.  I don't think there's anything wrong with saying "if you promote yourself as an entity open to the public, you have to take all comers who can afford your service."

On the flip side if you openly declare yourself a "members only"  institution, I have no problem with you setting membership criteria as you see fit.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 27, 2013 11:39 AM (/kI1Q)

I am 1/8, but BION, Indians are not protected class either.

@311

Churches? You don't see a problem there? You basically have Ginsberg filling in for God in that case.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 11:46 AM (LRFds)

If said car dealership is upfront about it's intent to only serve muslims I don't care.

I also don't care if a diner/nightclub or whatever opens and says "women only."  That's their problem and their choice.

But if you put yourself out there as a public enterprise, you need to abide by that.  If there's no warning before I try to go into a restaurant that they don't serve blond haired dudes, then why should they be able to say after I walk in the door "sorry we don't serve you."

And its not like this is going to be a case of say Chik-Fil-a refusing to serve gay people which they do not.  Its going to be demanding that "Chik-Fil-a" caters your gay wedding, essentially endorsing a view that goes against the proprietors religious beliefs.

We've seen what happens in these situations.  Which obviously Yoshi is perfectly fine with.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 11:58 AM (LRFds)

No probably not, I'm working on 3 different things right now, and only reading comments that catch my eye.

Disparate deals are, I think bad, especially if they're just based on a "you look like me" basis.  It's equal to or worse than the refusal of service (because you'd never know it was happening.) Although I'd be careful about pushing that too far.  Many people in my parish advertise in the parish bulletin for their businesses, the Ads say "Mention [Parish Name] and get a discount."  I'm less concerned with that because their ads in other places say "mention this ad and get a discount" which is really just a way of making the advertising more effective and I'd hate to see that thrown under the bus in the zeal to get rid of the bad actors.

Posted by: Vic at March 27, 2013 12:03 PM (53z96

Of course that doesn't really seem to matter when some gay couple demands to use a church's hall or land for a ceremony or reception.

Posted by: buzzion at March 27, 2013 12:06 PM (GULKT)

For the purposes of that, a Church would fall under the auspices of a private club.  The government can not force them to do shit.  The CRA does not apply to private clubs.