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April 08, 2013

Colt Manufacturing Company Moving to... Texas
— Ace

Pardon the vague headline -- I can't tell from this article if the company in question is a licensee of Colt, or a branch of Colt, or some sort of corporate entity affiliated with Colt.

Point is, whatever they are, they make AR-15s under the Colt name. And they're moving to Texas.

The move by Colt Competition into Breckenridge comes as the CEO of Colt Manufacturing in Connecticut has said there will soon be few good answers to keep his company in the state. Connecticut passed some of the nationÂ’s most restrictive gun laws this week.
It also comes weeks after Governor Rick Perry reportedly sent letters to gun companies, encouraging them to move to Texas. Perry sent a message on Twitter to Colorado company Magpul as recently as March 21, saying Â“Come on Down to Texas.Â” The GovernorÂ’s office did not confirm Friday if it had sent a recruitment letter to Colt Competition.

This goes beyond the 2nd Amendment. Texas is attracting companies because it's offering economic freedom. And it goes beyond that, too: This is about a fundamental dispute about whether our government exists to serve us and get out of the way of our exercise of our own free initiative, or whether government exists to instruct us and limit us as if we were schoolchildren in their care, permitted only to do the things the agreed to by a consensus of ill-educated moral scolds.

It's also about pluralism vs. monoculture. Liberal Connecticut would certainly like to imagine itself as the pluralistic society, and Texas as the monoculture, but in fact that's backwards. As Connecticut (and the various other former democracies of the east) claim that a "social consensus" has now been reached, politically, on a great many "issues" previously not thought to be political in nature at all, and more and more establishes an Official State Position on every question a Free Man might have, with those disagreeing with the party orthodoxy punished, or at least burdened, by official state sanction.

Meanwhile, Texas permits people to be as largely free.

Which means they're free to be weird. I don't mean this word as negatively as it's usually used. I use "weird" to mean any position that deviates from the widely-agreed to provincial orthodoxy. I'm sure gun manufacturers and gun owners and gun enthusiasts appear plenty weird to the Neo-Liberal majority of soft-thinking Connecticutans.

One question that's never gone away in all of history is what does society do about those who disagree with the prevailing social mores? Does it allow such "weirdoes" to go about their business without interference, or does it bring the various powers of the majority consensus -- social disapproval, formal laws burdening or prohibiting dissident conduct and opinions -- to push the dissenters towards the majority line?

One thing that annoys me about capital-L libertarians: They continue talking up the threat to Dissidents being equal from both political poles, without ever noticing that the threats from the Right are largely defanged due to judicial law-making (taking many rightist threats to liberty off the Constitutional table entirely) or due to simple political unpopularity of them.

Meanwhile, the Left's assault on liberty is growing and fully sanctioned by the state. It's an ascending star (a dark star, mind you), not a fading one.

The parties are not "equal" when it comes to threats to liberty. There are those on the right who have strong Nannying tendencies, but they could not muster the political support for their Nannyist tendencies, nor could those tendencies survive scrutiny by the US courts, which are ever-vigilant against threats to liberty which come from the right (and hardly mindful at all of those which come from the left-- ObamaCare's a tax, remember?).

When liberals feel oppressed by laws pushed by the right, they get them overturned by the courts. In some cases, they actually garner the public support enough to end such laws by actual democratic action.

And when conservatives feel oppressed by liberty-restricting laws from the left?

Our only realistic alternative seems to be to physically relocate ourselves to a more-free jurisdiction.

The Magnetic Attraction of the Future: supercore references Heinlein's gonzo-libertarian moon colony:

8 Can we colonize Luna already?

I was having trouble expressing what I was trying to express, but this helps me get there. The appeal of Texas, to me, isn't that it's Southern. I'm a Northern Yankee. Southern culture is alien to me.

But what Texas (and other forward-thinking states) are doing is implementing a culture of The Future, as opposed to the decaying states' culture of the Past.

The future is always exciting.

But in Connecticut, as in many of the big liberal states, the year is always 1974.

I don't want to live in 1974 forever. It was bad enough the first time.

The pull of the future is hard to resist. And I'm getting that Future Gravity vibe from Texas.

Meanwhile, There's California: California used to occupy an outsized place in the collective imagination as being a the State of the Future.

No one believes that anymore. California's growing more dystopian. No one ever has anything good to say about California politics or society, the things man makes. It's always about the weather.

There are Numbers and Logic and then there is the Imagination and the Heart. I think many of the former States of the Future (California most of all) have been coasting on a 30-year-old reputation of which it is simply no longer deserving. The Numbers and Logic have been against California for a while, but it's continued to exist as the State of the Future in the imagination and in the heart. That's the place where it really counts.

I see that changing. (Why? Because it just changed in me. Hey, we're all solipsistic, at least a little bit.)

Mike the Moose on The Past:

You know I've lived here in Cali, most of my life. I've watched it over the decades of that life piss away the residual prosperity it had from the gold industry, and the oil industry, and in my lifetime the computation Industry. Every cent of the money from three of the most significant economic booms this nation has ever seen....gone.
You imagine an America without conservative states as a boon, because of the fading glory of now progressive strongholds make them look good on paper today. Like Havisham still dressed in the nuptial gown, staring at a rotted feast and disintegrating linens, you imagine the celebration is still real the party still going on, because the house hasn't fallen down yet, because the decayed vestiges still in form resemble the glory of yesteryear close enough that you can imagine the greatness of the fading moment in the sun. But progressive states are the run down and crumbling mansions of greatness long past. Rotted out by progressivism, just waiting to collapse of their own accord.

Exactly the sort of vibe I'm getting. You can't live long on reputation alone. You do have to periodically innovate and adapt.

I'm not seeing that in the decaying states. They continue partying like it's 1974.

Posted by: Ace at 10:29 AM | Comments (505)
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1 Mazel tov. Seems like a natural fit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 08, 2013 10:30 AM (tqLft)

2 I believe it's a brand name under Colt.

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 10:31 AM (GQ8sn)

3 If Texas secedes, I'm going home.

Posted by: toby928© Texan in Exile at April 08, 2013 10:31 AM (QupBk)

4 Put that in your hash pipe and smoke it, hippie.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 08, 2013 10:32 AM (7xPCu)

5 The parties are not "equal" when it comes to threats to liberty. There are those on the right who have strong Nannying tendencies, ----- If you ever find yourself saying stuff like "we should" or I don't mind my taxes going for (insert something stupid here), you might be a closet democrat.

Posted by: Whatev at April 08, 2013 10:32 AM (A7Wh1)

6 I wish Gov. McDonnell would do this. At least attract Beretta from the commies in MD. Virginia is a lot closer to its traditional home than Texas. If McDonnell is doing anything, though, he is doing it quietly.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at April 08, 2013 10:32 AM (+/C3g)

7 Come on down, we need as many as possible.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 08, 2013 10:32 AM (R8hU8)

8 Can we colonize Luna already?

Posted by: supercore23 at April 08, 2013 10:33 AM (bwV72)

BuzzFeed that...

Who needs hip and funny when money and jobs talk so well?

Posted by: Stateless_Infidel at April 08, 2013 10:33 AM (AC0lD)

10 If you ever find yourself saying stuff like "we should" or I don't mind my taxes going for (insert something stupid here), you might be a closet democrat.

Posted by: Whatev at April 08, 2013 02:32 PM (A7Wh1)

national defense? See, the problem with your second statement is that stupid is in the eye of the beholder.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at April 08, 2013 10:33 AM (+/C3g)

11 Oh how I'd love to own a _______, Texas rollmarked 6920.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 08, 2013 10:33 AM (t06LC)

12 The reporter was kinda lazy here. What I get from the vague writing is that a company from Oregon, which makes certain weapons for Colt, is moving to TX. Ol' Sam'l's original company in CT is not going anywhere at this moment.

Posted by: MrScribbler at April 08, 2013 10:34 AM (qignd)

13 I'm plenty weird...

Posted by: Stateless_Infidel at April 08, 2013 10:34 AM (AC0lD)

14 >>>If Texas secedes, I'm going home. texas (and a bunch of other states) are certainly making themselves very attractive. I'm not a Southerner, so the culture of the South is sort of alien to me, but a lot of southern states (most obviously texas) are pushing a sort of Let Me Be culture that is attractive to any free man.

Posted by: ace at April 08, 2013 10:35 AM (LCRYB)

Indeed, the movie V for Vengeance was actually a comic book.

and the evil government, was Margaret Thatcher.

What the so-called "liberals" don't understand is that the "Machine" the "Man" the "Establishment" the "Big Brother"

is not the evil conservatives from Foot Loose. It is the soul crushing leftist radicals that seek to tell you how to live, what to eat, what to say and what to fucking think.

That is coming the fuck around though. You can see it in many different respects.

THANK YOU INTERNET AND FUCK YOU WALTER CRONKITE.

Posted by: Prescient11 at April 08, 2013 10:35 AM (tVTLU)

16 Breckenridge is close to home. I'm excited, this is an area that was somewhat depressed before the subprime credit crunch, even if they only bring 10, 20 jobs it will make a difference.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at April 08, 2013 10:35 AM (epxV4)

17 >> Which means they're free to be weird. So you've been to Austin.

Posted by: Andy at April 08, 2013 10:35 AM (G7UH3)

18 Wow AosHQ and Twatter now in 3d....

well I've always had access to the 3d but now we have a 3dTV in the bedroom....

Hey Blue States keep sending your businesses to us...

//Texas

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 10:35 AM (LRFds)

19 Colt Competition is moving from OR. Why the fuck they were there in the first place is a good question. Colt Manufacturing says it will announce soon its plans, but they are making it clear they are leaving CT. http://tinyurl.com/d7ac9me

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 10:35 AM (wR+pz)

20 >>>8 Can we colonize Luna already? important point. I'm going to add it.

Posted by: ace at April 08, 2013 10:36 AM (LCRYB)

21 Proud Texan. Great news. Rick Perry rocks. Almost as much as Steve Perry.

Posted by: Dang at April 08, 2013 10:36 AM (R18D0)

22 1) JJ Sefton,

Quite....

Want to be free to gain or fail as you ear-Try Texas!

//Sven

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 10:36 AM (LRFds)

23 I'm not a Southerner, so the culture of the South is sort of alien to me

I learned pretty fast and I'm from further north than you. It's awesome down here! Come on down.

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 10:36 AM (GQ8sn)

24 If you ever find yourself saying stuff like "we should" or I don't mind my taxes going for (insert something stupid here), you might be a closet democrat. Posted by: Whatev at April 08, 2013 02:32 PM (A7Wh1) I hear that on a daily basis from the liberals I seem to be surrounded by. I sez "what's this 'we' bullshit?". It's as if the left needs to pull everything down to the gutter with them.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 08, 2013 10:37 AM (7xPCu)

25 20 Ace,

it's hardly a joke....

you ever get in the mood to discuss it I'll chat with you on why Luna and Mars are free in Star Trek....

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 10:37 AM (LRFds)

As far as the "culture of the South" goes, here is all you need to know, I was born a yank, lived 15 years in the south, then moved back up to yankee midwest.

The "north" is racist, rude and brutal by comparison. I miss the south every day.

People are 100 times nicer. They still have religion in the south. You get a flat tire and you will get help. Up here, they will run you the fuck over.

Posted by: Prescient11 at April 08, 2013 10:37 AM (tVTLU)

27 Would that I could move south without melting like a cake in MacArthur Park during a rainstorm. Hell, I go through most of the spring and autumn here in NH complaining about how hot it is, while my fellows are bundled up in sweaters and gloves.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 08, 2013 10:38 AM (4df7R)

28 23 EC,

only boundary observed is the ones innate in allowing freedom....

I am a proud Bucvkeye on my way home to the ArkLaTex...

"Let's grow together"

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 10:38 AM (LRFds)

29 I'm to old, to settled, and to married with children to move South at this point, but I wish I had when I was starting out. I'll be in South Carolina for a few weeks this summer and I am sure looking forward to it.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 08, 2013 10:38 AM (9Bj8R)

30 Texas is a blast. I used to go there twice a year. I would move there in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Berserker at April 08, 2013 10:39 AM (FMbng)

31 14 >>>If Texas secedes, I'm going home. texas (and a bunch of other states) are certainly making themselves very attractive. I'm not a Southerner, so the culture of the South is sort of alien to me, but a lot of southern states (most obviously texas) are pushing a sort of Let Me Be culture that is attractive to any free man. Posted by: ace at April 08, 2013 02:35 PM (LCRYB) To me, Texas feels more west than south, but being from the midwest, nobody wants my opinion anyway.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 08, 2013 10:39 AM (7xPCu)

32 Damn. There goes the hot steampunk girls discussion in the previous thread. Damn discussion on Liberty. Gets ya every time.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 10:39 AM (da5Wo)

Here's the thing about Austin though...

Yeah, you can be weird if you're weirdness involves being an 87 year old man riding a bicycle in a white thong.

If, on the other hand, your weirdness involves wanting to go to Walgreens and get a bag for your groceries, well you're SOL.

Of course, that's the libs influence and can't be blamed on the state.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2013 10:39 AM (wsGWu)

34 I'm not a Southerner, so the culture of the South is sort of alien to me, but a lot of southern states (most obviously texas) are pushing a sort of Let Me Be culture that is attractive to any free man.

Posted by: ace at April 08, 2013 02:35 PM (LCRYB)

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I'd say come to Wisconsin, but it's too dang cold for actual real people. And, oh, Madison.

Posted by: mama winger at April 08, 2013 10:39 AM (P6QsQ)

I once scoffed at the idea that any new Civil War would be fought along state lines as the last one was, believing that any insurmountable differences sparking such a division would be based solely on irrconcilably conflicting ideas, not state loyalties, thus transcending individual state boundary lines and rendering geography moot.

I forgot people could move, I guess.

Posted by: troyriser at April 08, 2013 10:39 AM (vtiE6)

36 Free to be weird. Our only realistic alternative seems to be to physically relocate ourselves to a more-free jurisdiction. Yeah, bugs the hell out of me. Just put in an offer and had it accepted on a house in Round Rock. Good Lord willing (and the creek donÂ’t rise) I will be a Texas homeowner in a month. And I do feel more than a little guilt, when I think about it, about abandoning San Diego to California.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 08, 2013 10:39 AM (QF8uk)

"The parties are not "equal" when it comes to threats to liberty."

sorry... but this is just wrong. George Bush brougt on the Patriot Act... and created the DHS.

Nixon created the EPA....

War on drugs? has led to no knock raids, and the Police being able to search WITHOUT a Warrant, if they think evidence MAY be in the process of being destoryed... and the confiscation of an untold amount in 'drug property' (cars and such, went and did a quick search for stats... can't find em...).

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2013 10:39 AM (lZBBB)

The South also is rising. One more reason:

NO FUCKING UNIONS. Do you really think it is a "coincidence" that businesses are relocating in the south.

Car manufactures won't go near the northern cities. Fuck you unions. fuck your commie leadership straight to hell.

Posted by: Prescient11 at April 08, 2013 10:40 AM (tVTLU)

39 Who needs hip and funny when jobs and money work so well? -------- But...I like lolcats more than I like working.

Posted by: Low Info Voter at April 08, 2013 10:40 AM (/0G36)

40 Nice tax base, Conneticutt; shame if anything happened to it.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at April 08, 2013 10:40 AM (gmoEG)

41 14 Ace,

I think to a large degree "culture" is an artificial construct to keep us locked in....

You like bar-b-q great, you don't heyguess what they don't force you to eat 'er at gunpoint...

I think you'd find a home.....

lots have for about 180 years now....

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 10:40 AM (LRFds)

42 "Our only realistic alternative seems to be to physically relocate ourselves to a more-free jurisdiction." Yeah, Nancy Boy. So, you're loadin up the Airstream and headin for Waco, eh? Good fucking riddance.

Posted by: andrew breitbart at April 08, 2013 10:41 AM (4eMD6)

Romeo13:

Indeed, you are entirely correct. GOP gives them the tools, and then the leftist radicals turn it into a complete and utter nightmare against us.

Posted by: Prescient11 at April 08, 2013 10:41 AM (tVTLU)

44 Feel free to be weird in Texas, just don't get caught with a doobie or they'll send you in for a 5 year ass pounding.

Posted by: chicken mama at April 08, 2013 10:41 AM (rIMv6)

45 Welcome to a free state, Colt.

Hope it stays that way with all the liberal asshat transplants that are flooding here currently.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 08, 2013 10:41 AM (xmcEQ)

46 Damn. There goes the hot steampunk girls discussion in the previous thread.

Steampunk Cowboy gets my vote. I'd pull the lever (hehehe...) a thousand times.

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 10:41 AM (GQ8sn)

47
I love the smell of Texas in the morning. It smells like freedom.

Posted by: Kilgore was here at April 08, 2013 10:41 AM (Opo0Q)

48 "One question that's never gone away in all of history is what does society do about those who disagree with the prevailing social mores?"

According to the Left, Western culture isn't allowed to have social mores in general. The social mores of other cultures cannot be questioned.

Posted by: Pyrocles at April 08, 2013 10:41 AM (cv5Iw)

49 I'll be in South Carolina for a few weeks this summer and I am sure looking forward to it.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 08, 2013 02:38 PM (9Bj8R)

____________

I think that's first time in the history of manking that someone has said they're looking forward to being in SC in the **summer**. Don't get me wrong, it's a lovely state. But not in July.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2013 10:41 AM (HDgX3)

50 @26 Well put sir, and please return. This obviously does not apply to you. Why are Yankees like hemorrhoids? The good ones come down and go back, the bad ones come down and stay.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 10:42 AM (wR+pz)

I'm not a Southerner, so the culture of the South is sort of alien to me

I wouldn't really call Texas "the South". It's a much different culture than say, Georgia.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2013 10:42 AM (wsGWu)

52 35 troyriser,

I was in the same boat Troy...but part of "run red" is to make the differences geographic as well as preference....

you're in Johnson County here in Indiana no?

I may buy you dinner before I leave.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 10:42 AM (LRFds)

53 I'm afraid to go to Texas. I hear they have volcanos.

Posted by: Ergie at April 08, 2013 10:42 AM (ggRof)

54 Oh look. Derp...derp derp.

Hey derp, where should I move to so I don't get thrown into a volcano?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 10:42 AM (da5Wo)

55 Texas: Come for the freedom. Stay for the pecan pie.

Posted by: Texas at April 08, 2013 10:43 AM (hbuAs)

56 53 ergie,

they are as extinct as anti-communist democrats friend...

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 10:43 AM (LRFds)

57 Sweet tea and grits. Or as you would call them up north: polenta.

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 10:43 AM (GQ8sn)

58 Texas: "We'll take'em. We'll take'em ALL. Thanks, Blue States! You guys have been swell - really!"

Posted by: drawandstrike at April 08, 2013 10:43 AM (5XYkM)

59 People are 100 times nicer. They still have religion in the south. You get a flat tire and you will get help. Up here, they will run you the fuck over. Posted by: Prescient11

A few years ago my car stalled at a stoplight. I started pushing it around the corner to a parking lot and four guys came out of nowhere and helped. They were a landscaping crew, I'm guessing, who'd had similar experience with their cars. I try to do the same thing for other folks. I feel very blessed. Love it down here.

Posted by: Dang at April 08, 2013 10:44 AM (R18D0)

60 As a Texas, I'm pleased to see more major businesses chose an economically free right to work state. As a business owner, I'm pleased to see that the manufacturers are understanding that you can not feed the beasts of governments that don't have their best interests at heart.

Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at April 08, 2013 10:44 AM (L4CWX)

61 43 Romeo13:

Indeed, you are entirely correct. GOP gives them the tools, and then the leftist radicals turn it into a complete and utter nightmare against us.

Posted by: Prescient11 at April 08, 2013 02:41 PM (tVTLU)

Yeah.... I believe that once ANY power is given, it will eventualy be abused....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2013 10:44 AM (lZBBB)

62 Eh, the culture isn't as big a deal as the movies/tv make it seem. But we really do say y'all, like, all the time.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 08, 2013 10:44 AM (/0G36)

Our only realistic alternative seems to be to physically relocate ourselves to a more-free jurisdiction.

Here's the problem with this: this is also an alternative for the LIV, FSA denizens who have made the Blue States such fucking hellholes.

In addition to relocating conservatives to conservative states, you have to figure out a way to either keep the leeches away or else force them to be productive. You want to talk about enforcing the dominant social mores? That's the one that's hard to master.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 08, 2013 10:44 AM (4df7R)

@14

I think the bumper sticker says something like "I wasn't born in Texas, but I got here as fast as I could"

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 08, 2013 10:44 AM (t06LC)

65 I think that's first time in the history of manking that someone has said they're looking forward to being in SC in the **summer**. Don't get me wrong, it's a lovely state. But not in July. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2013 02:41 PM (HDgX3) That's what they make air conditioning and beer for.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 08, 2013 10:44 AM (9Bj8R)

66 44 Feel free to be weird in Texas, just don't get caught with a doobie or they'll send you in for a 5 year ass pounding. Posted by: chicken mama at April 08, 2013 02:41 PM (rIMv6) To a conservative, that's a threat; to a liberal that's a promise. Or something.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 08, 2013 10:45 AM (7xPCu)

67 I wouldn't really call Texas "the South". It's a much different culture than say, Georgia. Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2013 02:42 PM (wsGWu) Not much. The only difference is the Mexican history and it's influence. There is less Black influence in Texas than say LA, MS, GA, AL. Still, when I go to Texas, I am still at home.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 10:45 AM (wR+pz)

68 Ace -

You could run the blog from anywhere that has an internet connection, right? Maybe you could think about moving to wherever you can maximize your happiness potential.

Posted by: mama winger at April 08, 2013 10:45 AM (P6QsQ)

69 46 EC,

You know what would be cool as hell and something I'd happily launch a "Sven J Olafson" kickstarter on?

Someone using RPG maker V to make a pro-freedom SteamPunk RPG....

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 10:45 AM (LRFds)

70 When can I buy a Colt AR stamped "made in Texas" instead of Hartford, CONN, that is the real question I'd like an answer to! Can I send in my existing lower and get it restamped?

Posted by: Andrew at April 08, 2013 10:45 AM (HS3dy)

71 I'm not a Southerner, so the culture of the South is sort of alien to me, but a lot of southern states (most obviously texas) are pushing a sort of Let Me Be culture that is attractive to any free man.

Posted by: ace at April 08, 2013 02:35 PM (LCRYB)

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Don't disregard Oklahoma either. A demented ewok could thrive here.

Posted by: Soona at April 08, 2013 10:45 AM (rVKKx)

Texas really does feel like freedom. I grew up in Colorado when it was basically the less dealthly hot, more scenic version of Texas. Sadly, that's no longer the case.

At this point, I welcome the heat and the drought because it keeps the wimps (read: Liberals) away.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2013 10:45 AM (wsGWu)

73 Texas is most definitely not southern culture, it's Texan. There are significant differences. Less gentile and much more independent minded. It's closer to Alaska than the South.

Posted by: Jake in Texas at April 08, 2013 10:45 AM (FbXPu)

74
57 Sweet tea and grits. Or as you would call them up north: polenta.

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 02:43 PM (GQ8sn)

*smacks the Canuck*

Polenta is not grits. And you'd do well not to repeat that in certain Southern areas.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 10:46 AM (da5Wo)

75 States such as Texas are alluring for various reasons. It's not only financial but sociological. They are uniquely American and therefore familiar in their culture. It's what most people who don't want to live on cradle to grave government intervention in their lives want for both themselves and their children.

So future looking? Sure. But in a way that is somewhat nostalgic and self-aware. It feels existential and limited. Not overreaching and destined for an uncontrolled failure.

Posted by: Marcus at April 08, 2013 10:46 AM (GGCsk)

76 If ever there was a "Brilliant, bomb's away" moment to be had, Yahoo! just earned itself a big ass target.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at April 08, 2013 02:19 PM (4df7R)

I snuck it into one of my briefings today.

I was discussing making a new program operational. A question was raised. Before I could address it, another attendee provided a resolution. There it was. "Brilliant, bombs away."

And on we went.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 08, 2013 10:46 AM (fwARV)

77 You know what would be cool as hell and something I'd happily launch a "Sven J Olafson" kickstarter on?

Someone using RPG maker V to make a pro-freedom SteamPunk RPG....

It's called Fallout: New Vegas. You could elect to not side with any faction.

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 10:46 AM (GQ8sn)

78 Why Breckenridge? It's a good location to use Satan's own geothermal energy to make those evil black rifles. If it keeps ergie away, all the better.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at April 08, 2013 10:46 AM (epxV4)

I find it funny that ergie assumes that moving to another state would somehow interfere with an online blogger's ability to blog online.

What a silly derple!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 08, 2013 10:46 AM (4df7R)

80 >>>Don't disregard Oklahoma either. A demented ewok could thrive here.

Too much wheat, girls aren't hot enough, landlocked.

Also, Sooners.

Then again, my family comes from Indiana originally, so I'm nobody to talk.

Posted by: Jeff B. at April 08, 2013 10:46 AM (bcLhD)

81 Oil companies in the Dakotas are pulling guys and sending them to Texas.

Where do you think the growth over the next 24 months will be?

North or South?

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 08, 2013 10:46 AM (VjL9S)

82 58 drawandstrike,

Amen...

Texas doing the jobs America refuses to do....

DrawandStrike post your twitter handle you're Cates yeah?

I lost you when I spiked my account.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 10:46 AM (LRFds)

83 53 I'm afraid to go to Texas. I hear they have volcanos. Posted by: Ergie at April 08, 2013 02:42 PM (ggRof) I heard it was going to tip over, what with all those military bases and oil.

Posted by: Rep Hank Johnson at April 08, 2013 10:46 AM (wR+pz)

84 55 Texas: Come for the freedom. Stay for the pecan pie.

Posted by: Texas at April 08, 2013 02:43 PM (hbuAs)

Of which the best is found at the Goode Company in Houston, Texas. Also available in a fine wooden display box from the Goode Company store.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 08, 2013 10:46 AM (t06LC)

85 Less gentile

Mazel tov!

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 08, 2013 10:47 AM (nbX4o)

86 Texas Brisket. A culture all its own.

Posted by: Marcus at April 08, 2013 10:47 AM (GGCsk)

87 Polenta is not grits. And you'd do well not to repeat that in certain Southern areas.

They're both made from corn and prepared the same way.

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 10:47 AM (GQ8sn)

88 Texas: Come for the freedom. Stay for the pecan pie. ORLY? Can I haz ice cream wiÂ’t?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 08, 2013 10:47 AM (QF8uk)

89 I'm not a Southerner, so the culture of the South is sort of alien to me, but a lot of southern states (most obviously texas) are pushing a sort of Let Me Be culture that is attractive to any free man. Posted by: ace at April 08, 2013 02:35 PM (LCRYB) Yes, but the leftist bastards are infiltrating. It's the schools, pure and simple. Unless that is rectified, forget it.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 08, 2013 10:47 AM (3puvy)

90 77 EC,

I prefer a hopeful world no offense....

and I did a few mod clinics in ONTs past here for FO:NV......

no economy to run either...

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 10:47 AM (LRFds)

91 Connecticutans or Connecticutites?

Posted by: Hamilton Burger at April 08, 2013 10:47 AM (5w8Fq)

I snuck it into one of my briefings today.

I was discussing making a new program operational. A question was raised. Before I could address it, another attendee provided a resolution. There it was. "Brilliant, bombs away."

And on we went.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 08, 2013 02:46 PM (fwARV)

NICE!

*high five!*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 08, 2013 10:48 AM (4df7R)

"Not much. The only difference is the Mexican history and it's influence"

Well that, and also the Western influence. I'd say Texas has more in common with New Mexico than North Carolina.

But, there is definitely the Southern hospitality in Texas, and to a Yankee who see's us all as flyover country, they might as well be the same

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2013 10:48 AM (wsGWu)

94 >>>One thing that annoys me about capital-L libertarians:

I kind of broke up with much of big L libertarians when they didn't lift a finger to do anything about protecting gun rights, or rights to smoke (though I don't even smoke) tobacco, or hunting rights, in my state (cali). Yet they whine ever so horribly about not getting to smoke pot. If you can't be bothered to protect the rights you have (if they aren't your main interest) why should I assume you actually believe the stuff you spout on about and aren't simply using it as a convenient philosophical wrapper to justify your woobie? In short why should I assume you want to be free, and not simply free to smoke pot and F* everything else that isn't part of that narrow want?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 08, 2013 10:48 AM (0q2P7)

@81

South.

The Eagleford is big, but from my understanding the mother of all oil shale fields might be in Midland. Cline shale or something like that. It was all the geos were talking about...

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 08, 2013 10:48 AM (t06LC)

96 They're both made from corn and prepared the same way.

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 02:47 PM (GQ8sn)

So's corn on the cob.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 10:48 AM (da5Wo)

97 When liberals feel oppressed by laws pushed by the right, they get them overturned by the courts. In some cases, they actually garner the public support enough to end such laws by actual democratic action. And when conservatives feel oppressed by liberty-restricting laws from the left? Our only realistic alternative seems to be to physically relocate ourselves to a more-free jurisdiction. And then that more-free jurisdiction is overrun by those seeking to flee the effects of their policies who then implement their policies in the new place and can't figure out why the same thing happens. This is why I'm not kidding about rooting for SMOD. Hard reset is the only thing that will work.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 08, 2013 10:48 AM (VtjlW)

98 Then again, my family comes from Indiana originally, so I'm nobody to talk.

I lol'd.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 08, 2013 10:48 AM (/kI1Q)

99 I keep trying to convince my gf that Texas is place to go. (She's from Chicago and knows it's a high-tax liberal shithole, but you know old sentimental attachments die hard, and heck the architecture IS lovely.)

The worse things get, the closer I come to pulling it off. I may have to compromise and move to Austin (you know, more 'young' hipster culture...which we like even though we're both conservatives politically), but either way I won't living in a sinking ship state like IL, CA, NY, or MD.

Posted by: Jeff B. at April 08, 2013 10:49 AM (bcLhD)

100 In addition to relocating conservatives to conservative states, you have to figure out a way to either keep the leeches away or else force them to be productive. You want to talk about enforcing the dominant social mores? That's the one that's hard to master.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at April 08, 2013 02:44 PM (4df7R)

------------------------------------------------

That's one of the reasons OK is formulating a law which states that if you get welfare and are physically able to work, you'll work.

Posted by: Soona at April 08, 2013 10:49 AM (rVKKx)

101

I've spent a few nights in Heresford, Tx.

Charming place.

Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2013 10:49 AM (pAZBC)

102 "53 I'm afraid to go to Texas. I hear they have volcanos. " I know this is a joke but there actually are some. Google it, there's an extinct one close to me. I know they have a bunch of volcanic bubles out west too. One in Uvalde where they had a famous battle of sorts. Fort Inge I think.

Posted by: Andrew at April 08, 2013 10:49 AM (HS3dy)

103 I'm in a fantasy football league with a bunch of NC/SC natives ( I'm originally from MA) and I'm by far the most outspoken conservative. A few dropped me from their FB around election time, citing my anti-Obama "prejudice". These are grown men with families and they're like little Liberal school kids. Fortunately, I browbeat a few others into admitting they were conservative, but everyone is too polite to really argue (unless they're Libs and argue by reciting Mahler and Stewart verbatim).

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 08, 2013 10:49 AM (ZshNr)

104 Damn. There goes the hot steampunk girls discussion in the previous thread. Damn discussion on Liberty. Gets ya every time.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 02:39 PM (da5Wo)

Steampunk meets the American Revolution.

http://tinyurl.com/cncqand

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 08, 2013 10:49 AM (fwARV)

105 >>>I lol'd.

It ain't called "India-noplace" for the fuck of it, you know.

Posted by: Jeff B. at April 08, 2013 10:50 AM (bcLhD)

106 I believe I have just sussed out what the GOP is thinking/planning. The GOP is attempting to push the Democrats further to the Left by moving itself to the center. Their cunning plan is to make the Democrats out to be the extremists by making them over-reach. The GOP braintrust is not opposing the Democrats because the GOP wants the Democrats to feel ballsy enough to go for the whole kit n kaboodle kommunism state, and then the Republicans will emerge as the mainstream alternative. Will it work? It did before but it took about 50 years (1930-1980) and it was done inadvertently.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2013 10:50 AM (xIzGn)

107 97 AlexTheChick,

ATC the problem is that SMOD hussy she is keeps nailing the Russian dde not us....

always room at my campfire for you ma'am....

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 10:50 AM (LRFds)

108 I wouldn't really call Texas "the South". It's a much different culture than say, Georgia.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2013 02:42 PM (wsGWu)

Depends on what part of TX. My wife is from TX and she calls it part of the South. Generally speaking East TX has more of a Southern vibe while West TX is more of a SW vibe.

As for the article the one I linked to this morning (which may not have been as up to date) said that Colt was hiring in preparation for building a factory. So we really will not know what they are moving there until they actually start.

Posted by: Vic at April 08, 2013 10:50 AM (53z96)

109 Eh.. that south isn't so weird. Just leave people alone, keep promises ya make, and treat folks with respect when ya do have to interact with em and you'll do well. Diets, tho, are another matter. We do eat some strange things here. One last thing... learn to say and spell "y'all" correctly.

Posted by: Really Fat Guy at April 08, 2013 10:51 AM (Je/il)

110 Maybe they can spare some employees to put on the border. I read somewhere that there is virtually no welfare in Mexico. No kidding. They're all on welfare here. Fucking insane.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at April 08, 2013 10:51 AM (wbmaj)

111 So I have a curious question for the Texans amongst us - if one would have their choice of areas to live in (let's say you telecommute), where/what area would you suggest one move to?

Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at April 08, 2013 10:51 AM (YLZSZ)

112 So's corn on the cob.

What exactly is the difference? Aside from the colour.

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 10:51 AM (GQ8sn)

113 @94: In my experience a lot of them *are* also serious about gun rights and cigarettes and so on. They're just *also* serious isolationists, and sometimes believers in global warming. Because their dad was Christian, and he totally hated science.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2013 10:51 AM (B/VB5)

114 Steampunk meets the American Revolution.

http://tinyurl.com/cncqand

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 08, 2013 02:49 PM (fwARV)

Well that failed miserably.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 10:51 AM (da5Wo)

115 I'm not a Southerner, so the culture of the South is sort of alien to me

I learned pretty fast and I'm from further north than you. It's awesome down here! Come on down.
=========
Biggest change for me was the cashiers at checkout were actually nice to you and spoke to you--"find what you need? How's your day? etc."

Then there's the whole people say "Hi, how are you?" and introduce themselves when you move into the neighborhood.

Yeah, not hard to get used to at all.

Oh, and "fixin'" for "about to." It's a good, all-purpose phrase.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 08, 2013 10:51 AM (VjL9S)

116 NICE!

*high five!*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at April 08, 2013 02:48 PM (4df7R)

I was a little disappointed. Nobody even blinked.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 08, 2013 10:52 AM (fwARV)

117 Damn it! Where the hell is Georga Governor Nathan Deal. Governor)? He's letting Texas snap up all the good stuff, the lazy bastard. Sure, he got Porsche USA headquarters, but when the revolution comes, a sweet ride is nice but I'd rater be well-armed.

Posted by: Warthog at April 08, 2013 10:52 AM (WDySP)

118 Colt Competition is moving from Oregon, whose gun laws are less restrictive than Texas in some ways (open carry), but CT operations stay as is? Not sure I get the posturing on this but, whatever. How is it that so many firearms mfg's are in the northeast anyway? Colt, Remington, Beretta, Kahr, etc. Legacy operations I suppose, but it's not like they haven't had decades of notice that they're behind enemy lines.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 08, 2013 10:52 AM (+lsX1)

119 Steampunk +1!

Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2013 10:52 AM (pAZBC)

120 Well that failed miserably.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 02:51 PM (da5Wo)

I really had my hopes up, too.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 08, 2013 10:53 AM (fwARV)

121

@110

One of Mexicos large sources of income is remittances from those who crossed. The Mexican government used to hand out guides on border crossing.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 08, 2013 10:53 AM (t06LC)

122

Are we still talking steampunk? Because I volunteer to do story things for a conservative steampunk 'verse, should such a thing be created!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 08, 2013 10:53 AM (4df7R)

123 114 BC1981,

Like the Head Ewok says we need good entertainment garnished with the right message not the right message wrapped in bad paper....

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 10:53 AM (LRFds)

124 Never ever say "Bless yer heart" to someone without context. It could get ya shot.

Posted by: Really Fat Guy at April 08, 2013 10:53 AM (Je/il)

125 We were very early into the gun manufacturing biz in the Northeast.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 08, 2013 10:53 AM (ZshNr)

126 Are we still talking steampunk? Because I volunteer to do story things for a conservative steampunk 'verse, should such a thing be created!

Steampunk grits.

Or polenta.

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 10:54 AM (GQ8sn)

127 Well that, and also the Western influence. I'd say Texas has more in common with New Mexico than North Carolina. Won't disagree, but I think all East Coast states have a different culture than the folks on the other side of the mountains(Appalachian). Our history with the county, that we settled 200 years before Texas was even a thought, is a little different. We DO have long memories.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 10:54 AM (wR+pz)

128 Then again, my family comes from Indiana originally, so I'm nobody to talk. Listen man I know how it feels, I used to come from Michigan myself.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 08, 2013 10:54 AM (QF8uk)

129 I wish I could convince my parents to uproot and move to Texas. Because as an only child, my only future at this point is to leave Texas and relocate in Delaware to take care of them as they get old.

Posted by: DangerGirl at April 08, 2013 10:54 AM (GwLJQ)

130 Oh by the way: the whole stereotype about Southerners 'not accepting' Northerners as transplants?

I've found it to be entirely bullshit. I've been around down there, for extended periods of time, and you know who Southerners of every variety (from NC to TX to GA, those are my experiences) really fucking hate? Northerners who are arrogant fucks. It isn't even about the politics: newsflash, there are lots of liberal people living in Southern states too. (Just more of us, thankfully.) It's about cultural snottiness, "flyover country" attitude, making fun of Christians (even the intellectual atheists I knew in Austin, TX hated that attitude), making fun of accents, etc.

It doesn't matter if you're from New Jersey: you come to a place like Houston and genuinely 'join up' with the folks down there instead holding your nose up in the air, people will embrace you. They like people who make an effort, you know.

Posted by: Jeff B. at April 08, 2013 10:54 AM (bcLhD)

131 But in Connecticut, as in many of the big liberal states, the year is always 1974.

So do they all dress like the Brady Bunch?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 08, 2013 10:54 AM (1Jaio)

132 102 "53 I'm afraid to go to Texas. I hear they have volcanos. " I know this is a joke but there actually are some. Google it, there's an extinct one close to me. I know they have a bunch of volcanic bubles out west too. One in Uvalde where they had a famous battle of sorts. Fort Inge I think. Posted by: Andrew at April 08, 2013 02:49 PM (HS3dy) There's also a meteor crater outside of Odessa. The best description is "meh".

Posted by: model_1066 at April 08, 2013 10:54 AM (7xPCu)

133 Â“I have said that Texas is a state of mind, but I think it is more than that. It is a mystique closely approximating a religion. And this is true to the extent that people either passionately love Texas or passionately hate it and, as in other religions, few people dare to inspect it for fear of losing their bearings in mystery or paradox. But I think there will be little quarrel with my feeling that Texas is one thing. For all its enormous range of space, climate, and physical appearance, and for all the internal squabbles, contentions, and strivings, Texas has a tight cohesiveness perhaps stronger than any other section of America. Rich, poor, Panhandle, Gulf, city, country, Texas is the obsession, the proper study, and the passionate possession of all Texans.Â” Somehow related. Liberals do not feel this way about America, or anything else. Donna Brazile asks-- "What did Thatcher do for Women?" (because they are small, petty and about the politics of division.)

Posted by: tasker at April 08, 2013 10:54 AM (r2PLg)

134 What exactly is the difference? Aside from the colour.

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 02:51 PM (GQ8sn)

Color, texture, taste, prep time.

Grits are typically coarser, take longer to cook.

But yes, they are very similar.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 10:54 AM (da5Wo)

135

@111

Houston.

Austin is congested as all get out and really a college town with the govt in it. San Antonio has its parts, but Houston has everything it does and more.

I don't really care for Dallas.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 08, 2013 10:55 AM (t06LC)

136 The west Texas desert is appealing. Low population density, fewer fascist assholes.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 08, 2013 10:55 AM (/gHaE)

137 So I have a curious question for the Texans amongst us - if one would have their choice of areas to live in (let's say you telecommute), where/what area would you suggest one move to?

Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at April 08, 2013 02:51 PM (YLZSZ)

TX is a lot like CA in that respect. It depends on what you like to do and the type of weather/terrain you like to live in. TX has some of them all.

Posted by: Vic at April 08, 2013 10:55 AM (53z96)

138

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139 #82: my Twittering handle is @drawandstrike i go by Grumpier Than Thou now, instead of my real name, Brian Cates.

Posted by: drawandstrike at April 08, 2013 10:55 AM (5XYkM)

140 This goes beyond the 2nd Amendment. Texas is attracting companies because it's offering economic freedom. Poaching. Texas style.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2013 10:55 AM (GFM2b)

141 @118 Colt has implied they are moving from CT. I think they are in a bidding game with several states.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 10:55 AM (wR+pz)

142 Would that I could move south without melting like a cake in MacArthur Park during a rainstorm. Hell, I go through most of the spring and autumn here in NH complaining about how hot it is, while my fellows are bundled up in sweaters and gloves. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at April 08, 2013 02:38 PM (4df7R) Hey, if I can manage not to burst into flame, you'll be fine. Remember, you'll go from your air conditioned house to your air conditioned car to your air conditioned office and back again. RE: Southern culture - it is different than the North but I didn't find it too different. Then again my formative years were in the Midwest so the whole polite and helpful thing was what I was taught was the norm. I'll probably end up in Texas at some point, but I do like where I'm at now. Hell, just seeing the sun more than one day a month makes a huge difference.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 08, 2013 10:55 AM (VtjlW)

143 It ain't called "India-noplace" for the fuck of it, you know.

One of these days at work I'll get fired for smacking the pampered brats from New Jersey and California to hush their non-stop bitching about how there's "nothing to do" in this metro area with two million people and several bar districts and a professional football team and whatnot, but the natives...some days they're incomprehensible.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 08, 2013 10:55 AM (/kI1Q)

144

Are we still talking steampunk? Because I volunteer to do story things for a conservative steampunk 'verse, should such a thing be created!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at April 08, 2013 02:53 PM (4df7R)

Motion is seconded and carried without opposition.

Let's do this thing. I'm in.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 08, 2013 10:55 AM (fwARV)

145 I worked at the Breckenridge radio station from '97 to '07. They've had some really tough economic times thanks to drought, among other things. I'm happy they're getting some good news.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Designated Commenter at April 08, 2013 10:56 AM (cVfX0)

146 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 08, 2013 10:56 AM (/PCJa)

147

Texas?

Filthy Mexico touchers.

Posted by: Wyoming Chamber of Commerce at April 08, 2013 10:56 AM (pAZBC)

148 Texas is quickly becoming one of the safest states to live in -- safe from liberal seepage; safe(r) from the feds; safe(r) from the criminals.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 08, 2013 10:56 AM (XYSwB)

149 122 MWR,

I am resetting my entertainment suite to get ready for 'hotel living" for a year or two...that said...

take a gander at "Swashbucklers Blue Vs Gray" for an interesting as always funhouse mirror Russian Pirates! RPG set in the American Civil War era with a garnishing of steampunk...literally.

I'm serious about funding a game made with RPG maker V...

I'll be good for a hundred on Steam within a month or so probably unless Allen G needs another pop.

I want some wins people I blew too much money on a loser last campaign season.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 10:56 AM (LRFds)

150 Shorter version for the dummies: By 2016, the GOP will roll out the new platform: Just The Tip For instance: The Democrats want full blown socialism. But we only want just the tip of socialism. And: Abortion and homosexual marriage is okay with us, but we draw the line at aborting homosexual married unborn babies.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2013 10:57 AM (Fely/)

151 The economy is kicking ass down here, in a lot of directions. Oil, manufacturing, IT, etc. GM keeps expanding it's manufacturing plant in Arlington, that thing covers what seems like miles. The guy earlier who said he just bought a house in Round Rock will love it, except for the traffic, its just north of Austin. The proximity to the libs can be exhausting. We are beginning to be inundated with folks who are being transferred here from up north, and some of them seem to think they are still surrounded by liberals. Anyone who visits this website (generally) is more than welcome, however. Ace, you can post just as easily from here as you can from up there.And don't forget to say howdy when you get here.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at April 08, 2013 10:57 AM (lyPWx)

152

I wouldn't really call Texas "the South". It's a much different culture than say, Georgia.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2013 02:42 PM (wsGWu)

I think it's all a matter of geography. I'm in New Hampshire, so to me anything further south than NJ is "the south" and further west than the Mississippi River is "the west." But when someone talks about "the northeast," I never, EVER think about New York or Pennsylvania or New Jersey. They aren't the south, but they aren't the northeast. They're just kind of the east. To me the northeast is New England, just because that's how my thinking is centered geographically.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 08, 2013 10:57 AM (4df7R)

153 Samuel Colt rolls over in his grave.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 10:57 AM (aDwsi)

154 This is sad news. I have many older (now deceased) relatives who made Colt manufacturing their livelihood. They worked for Colt for years, and retired and got pensions from this company. I agree with the move, it's Texas' gain, no doubt. It's also Connecticut's loss, and they don't fully understand what they're losing. My home state is going down the toilet. Just sad.

Posted by: Joejm65 at April 08, 2013 10:57 AM (XaMqH)

155

>>>texas (and a bunch of other states) are certainly making themselves very attractive.

We should do a moron-approved top 20 list, which and why and punch and cookies

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at April 08, 2013 10:57 AM (3ZtZW)

156

Checking in just long enough to share my pain.

You other IT (Softare/DBA) Morons will understand: Table w/ million plus rows, and someone deployed stored procs w/ "SELECT *" into production.

[Eyetwitch]

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 08, 2013 10:57 AM (/PCJa)

157 The worse things get, the closer I come to pulling it off. I may have to compromise and move to Austin (you know, more 'young' hipster culture...which we like even though we're both conservatives politically), but either way I won't living in a sinking ship state like IL, CA, NY, or MD.

Posted by: Jeff B. at April 08, 2013 02:49 PM (bcLhD)

_____________

Downtown Austin is "weird". Drive 10 miles north and it's a normal suburban setting. (Do not under any circumstances drive south). So you can have Austin within a 1/2 hour drive when you want it for the bars, restaurants, music...but not have to put up with the bullshit 24/7

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2013 10:57 AM (HDgX3)

158

@115

I always liked "over yonder" and "tumpt over". Alomst every Texan knows what those things mean.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 08, 2013 10:57 AM (t06LC)

159 I've found it to be entirely bullshit. I've been around down there, for extended periods of time, and you know who Southerners of every variety (from NC to TX to GA, those are my experiences) really fucking hate? Northerners who are arrogant fucks.

+1

They move down here to escape their blue state shitholes, but still vote the same way, which in turn slowly causes the purple-ing of the state.

"Oh no, I just couldn't take the taxes back home anymore! But what's this? A referendum on local taxes and bonds?!?! Sure, let's vote for them!!!!"

Fucking. Ass. Clowns.

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 10:57 AM (GQ8sn)

160

TX is a lot like CA in that respect. It depends on what you like to do and the type of weather/terrain you like to live in. TX has some of them all.

Posted by: Vic at April 08, 2013 02:55 PM (53z96)

Except Snow Skiing...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2013 10:57 AM (lZBBB)

161 Anyone else have owls in their neighborhood? We have some in the empty lot next to my house and they are in the mating seasons. The fuckers call and scream all night. Some owlette is getting herself fucked to death.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 10:58 AM (wR+pz)

162 >>>One of these days at work I'll get fired for smacking the pampered brats from New Jersey and California to hush their non-stop bitching about how there's "nothing to do" in this metro area with two million people and several bar districts and a professional football team and whatnot, but the natives...some days they're incomprehensible.

Oh, so you're from there! Still have a bunch of family living out in Carmel, which I'm sure you know. Motto: "At Least We're Not Located in Marion County!"

Posted by: Jeff B. at April 08, 2013 10:58 AM (bcLhD)

163 144 Washington Nearsider...

I understand game mechanics, I am going to be hands off as much as possible.

Friendly suggestions...

Look into Harry Turtledove's timeline 191 and classic steampunk...

to teach lessons pertinent to the modern problems I'd suggest working in subtle commentary on economics, freedom, political systems, and corporations versus "movements"....

just suggestions....

I want some wins.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 10:58 AM (LRFds)

164

Come to Alabama, if you think they are friendly in TX just wait till you visit here.

We wave at strangers, and not with our middle fingers.

We have all 4 seasons and if you can put up with the humidity its better than TX because we don't have a lot of the anoyances.

Granted, we do have Birmingham and Jefferson county but they are like any northern city, best avoided. Sitting at the base of the Appalachian range the northern part of the state has tecnology (Wehner VonBraun established the US space program here) to tourism in Orange Beach just outside of Mobile.

There's a lot of opportunity here, ya'll come on down. Seriously!

Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at April 08, 2013 10:59 AM (IanLz)

165 Grits are typically coarser, take longer to cook.

I thought it was polenta that was coarser? And the cooking times for both are the same. You don't make 5 minute magic polenta.

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 10:59 AM (GQ8sn)

166 Also, if not Luna or Texas there were plenty of plans the old circa-1850s "filibusterers" came up with. We could do the Golden Circle or take over Nicaragua [why? to make them speak english!]

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at April 08, 2013 10:59 AM (3ZtZW)

167 have said that Texas is a state of mind, but I think it is more than that. It is a mystique closely approximating a religion. And this is true to the extent that people either passionately love Texas or passionately hate it Go to another country and watch the aswers given to the question, "Where are you from?" Americans will say, "The US". A Texan will say, "Texas".

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2013 10:59 AM (GFM2b)

168 You other IT (Softare/DBA) Morons will understand: Table w/ million plus rows, and someone deployed stored procs w/ "SELECT *" into production.

[Eyetwitch]

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 08, 2013 02:57 PM (/PCJa)

Someone wanna translate that?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 10:59 AM (da5Wo)

169 Anyone else have owls in their neighborhood? We have some in the empty lot next to my house and they are in the mating seasons.

I was about ready to burn down the big Sequoia tree in my back yard last night just to get rid of that horny hooting bastard.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 08, 2013 11:00 AM (+lsX1)

170

Except Snow Skiing...

The Rockies extend into the NW and far west portions of the state. They have snow skiing in the winter.

It is said in the summer there is nothing between Hell and Amarillo except a passing cow, and in the winter there is nothing between the North Pole and Amarillo except a stray fence-post.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 08, 2013 11:00 AM (/PCJa)

171 Ammunition manufacturers are welcome too.

Posted by: Craig Poe, YeeHaw at April 08, 2013 11:00 AM (BVkEs)

172 You other IT (Softare/DBA) Morons will understand: Table w/ million plus rows, and someone deployed stored procs w/ "SELECT *" into production.

[Eyetwitch]

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 08, 2013 02:57 PM (/PCJa)

Oh Jesus on a pogo stick.

*WINCE*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 08, 2013 11:00 AM (4df7R)

173

Â“Most liberals believe that water runs downhill, but, praise God, itÂ’ll never reach the bottom.Â”

Robert A. Heinlein

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at April 08, 2013 11:00 AM (tqAT4)

174 " So I have a curious question for the Texans amongst us - if one would have their choice of areas to live in (let's say you telecommute), where/what area would you suggest one move to? " Depends on what you want. I'd say central TX somewhere. You can be rural but still close to action. Hill country is gorgeous but dryer and more expensive. If you want to go full out and do the prepper thing, grow your own food and such, I'd do south central. Lush and very green, lots of rivers and streams. There are two crazy parts of Texas to avoid. The liberal nuts that live in inner city Austin. And then the ghetto districts in the huge cities like Houston, places that nuts like Sheilah Jackson hail from. Go rural anywhere and you can't go wrong. Just depends on how close you what to be to what kind of cities and how much you want to spend.

Posted by: Andrew at April 08, 2013 11:00 AM (HS3dy)

175 Austin and Dallas are islands off deep blue libtards surrounded by good people, but Austin is infected doubly so. The state is so large, there are distinct differences in the different regions of the state; something for anyone, but we need more conservatives to come on down to help with the influx of Californians that are following their jobs here. The desire of the democrats to turn Texas blue again are no idle threat.. they mean it and are prepared to cheat and lie to get it.

Posted by: Yip at April 08, 2013 11:00 AM (/jHWN)

176 Oh, so you're from there!

Oh fuck no. I just took a job here.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 08, 2013 11:00 AM (/kI1Q)

177 >>>Houston.
Austin is congested as all get out and really a college town with the govt in it. San Antonio has its parts, but Houston has everything it does and more.

Unfortunately, it also has Houston's weather. Literally the only place in the entire United States where the summers are more miserable than Washington, DC. (Atlanta runs a close third, then maybe New Orleans.)

Posted by: Jeff B. at April 08, 2013 11:00 AM (bcLhD)

178 Someone wanna translate that?

It's a form of weasel.

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 11:00 AM (GQ8sn)

179 The poor barrel.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2013 11:00 AM (lVPtV)

180 Some owlette is getting herself fucked to death.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 02:58 PM (wR+pz)

Get a camera. Make a video. Start a website. There's a niche market for it, I'm sure.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 08, 2013 11:00 AM (AC0lD)

181 135 @111

Houston.
Austin is congested as all get out and really a college town with the govt in it. San Antonio has its parts, but Houston has everything it does and more.

I don't really care for Dallas.

136 The west Texas desert is appealing. Low population density, fewer fascist assholes.

137 TX is a lot like CA in that respect. It depends on what you like to do and the type of weather/terrain you like to live in. TX has some of them all.

===============

Thanks guys - I used to live in Santa Fe and had many friends who lived in West Texas (Amarillo), Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, and (of course) Austin and spent a lot of time that way (as a visitor). All were great areas worth considering (well, maybe not Austin based on what I've read here before)

Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at April 08, 2013 11:01 AM (YLZSZ)

182

"I am an almost extinct breed, an old-fashioned gentleman, which means I can be a cast-iron son-of-a-bitch when it suits me."

-------Jubal Harshaw

-Robert A. Heinlein

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at April 08, 2013 11:01 AM (tqAT4)

183 I want to move to Texas for the cowboy hats alone. Stetson, it's not just a hat, it's the hat.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 08, 2013 11:01 AM (XYSwB)

184

@167

True.

The Japanese love us. Aussies too.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 08, 2013 11:01 AM (t06LC)

185 Did a blog post last week on why Texas is booming, 6 of 14 cities with > employment now than before 2007 recession are in Texas, and why Rick Perry is awesome: http://tinyurl.com/cfmrqju

Posted by: drawandstrike at April 08, 2013 11:01 AM (5XYkM)

186 >>>I always liked "over yonder" and "tumpt over" everyone knows what "over yonder" means but what the heck does "tumpt over" mean?

Posted by: ace at April 08, 2013 11:01 AM (LCRYB)

187
msdnc;

Martin Bashir immediately launched into an attack on Thatcher as the embodiment of Â“selfishness and greed,Â” and managed to offer a quote that Thatcher probably would have enjoyed, considering the sources

The result was a kind of flagrant, excessive, and ostentatious pursuit of cashÂ” in Britain, Bashir said. He added, Â“The best description I ever heard of her was from French president Francois Mitterand who said she had the eyes of Caligula and the mouth of Marilyn Monroe.

hot air.

ap response also mentioned. difference between chavez being wonderful and Thatcher

i really can't relate to a large portion of the country , and it's flagrant disreguard for truth.

Posted by: willow at April 08, 2013 11:01 AM (nqBYe)

188

Sometimes I think we Texans are guilty of marketing Texas to ourselves (I'm not a native, moved here from Alabama when I was 10), but it is a great place to live and work, raise a family. Low taxes, no income tax, right to work state.

I'm sometimes dumbfounded about the things I take for granted here that aren't the same everywhere else. LauraW was telling me (or her husband maybe told me) you have to have a permit to buy ammo in CT. Ammo?

All I have to have here is an acceptable form of payment.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at April 08, 2013 11:01 AM (WvXvd)

189 Good Lord. The Barrel. STAT.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2013 11:01 AM (lVPtV)

190 I can tell you lots are moving down here. House prices are skyrocketing in N Dallas suburbs. My fear is those moving forgetting that their prior voting habits is what in the end made them leave their nanny states. We don't need that added on to the project Turn Texas Blue or whatever it is called.

Posted by: Lando's BFG at April 08, 2013 11:02 AM (hzSVV)

191

Don't know how to ask without insulting someone.

I like Texas, but I have been hearing good things about Oklahoma. Any opinions?

Posted by: Infidel at April 08, 2013 11:02 AM (gqEUi)

192 I thought it was polenta that was coarser? And the cooking times for both are the same. You don't make 5 minute magic polenta.

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 02:59 PM (GQ8sn)

My bad. Typed that out backwards. Here: http://www.cookingclarified.com/2011/02/grits-vs-polenta/

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 11:02 AM (da5Wo)

193 152 I wouldn't really call Texas "the South". It's a much different culture than say, Georgia. Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2013 02:42 PM (wsGWu)

I think it's all a matter of geography. I'm in New Hampshire, so to me anything further south than NJ is "the south" and further west than the Mississippi River is "the west." But when someone talks about "the northeast," I never, EVER think about New York or Pennsylvania or New Jersey. They aren't the south, but they aren't the northeast. They're just kind of the east. To me the northeast is New England, just because that's how my thinking is centered geographically. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at April 08, 2013 02:57 PM
============
Hmpf. I think of anything north of Charleston, SC as the North. NC may be re-admitted to the fold if McCrory can rid the state of the Democrat infested state agencies. He has no hope of cleaning out the Leftist rot in the university system.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 11:02 AM (aDwsi)

194 Except Snow Skiing...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2013 02:57 PM (lZBBB)

Well I did say "some".

Posted by: Vic at April 08, 2013 11:02 AM (53z96)

195 Except Snow Skiing... If God had wanted Texans to ski, He'd have made bull shit white.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2013 11:02 AM (GFM2b)

196 Someone wanna translate that? You have a warehouse full of all kinds of food. Someone asks for the best tomato you have. The clerk goes in and brings out every single vegetable you have into the showroom, then sorts out the tomatoes.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 08, 2013 11:02 AM (QF8uk)

197

Someone wanna translate that?

When working with a SQL database, getting records out, you use "SELECT" statements. Every datapoint that matches your querry (statement) is loaded into your computer's memory. "SELECT *" says "I don't care, just get me everything". It's incredibly memory intensive and definately not good practice.

That's before you consider what can break if the underlying table changes.

I'm having to debug code that has "SELECT *" for real production code scattered all over the place.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 08, 2013 11:02 AM (/PCJa)

198 I live in the DFW area now for 22 years and really like it. Fort Worth side better than the Dallas side, as Dallas county has higher taxes and progressives. The Hill country is kinda pricy, but great for hunting. Avoid Houston unless you like the humidity and driving.

Posted by: Yip at April 08, 2013 11:02 AM (/jHWN)

199 @33 - I live just north of, but work in, Austin. Every day I bring in a plastic bag to discard in the trash. It's a small thing but I hate Austin politics with a fiery passion. Fuckin' fascists.

Of course, if Austin wasn't so blue, our legislature wouldn't spend half their session making laws to undo shit that the Austin city council does and then they might get into trouble themselves.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 08, 2013 11:02 AM (44PWr)

200 Ace, move to Georgia. We're still free here.

And, "bless your heart."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2013 11:03 AM (lVPtV)

201 I've never even held a gun. But when the government comes after my 401K I'll be thinking about getting one and joining the forces of good against an out-of-control government. The Outlaw Josey Wales was based on a short story called, Gone to Texas. He had some of the same sentiments.

Posted by: Donna Brazile at April 08, 2013 11:03 AM (71LDo)

202

Someone wanna translate that?

In other words, instead of selecting a few records from the table, someone created a process that uses the ENTIRE million+ records in the table.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 08, 2013 11:03 AM (4df7R)

203 Roll out the barrel
We'll have a barrel of fun

/homesick

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 08, 2013 11:03 AM (/kI1Q)

204 Is there a snowy version of Texas?

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 08, 2013 11:03 AM (UypUQ)

205 Here's the problem with this: this is also an alternative for the LIV, FSA denizens who have made the Blue States such fucking hellholes.
========
But that's the beauty of the welfare model: The sustenance living they provide is just enough to keep them there.
Look at all the able-bodied that are still there when 50-70 years ago, they'd be headed to the Dakotas or Texas.

By the time it runs out, there'll be no one left and no way for them to get out; they'll be so beat down, so out of resources, they will be even more trapped.

And then the beast turns on the zookeepers . . . .

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 08, 2013 11:03 AM (VjL9S)

206 [Table w/ million plus rows, and someone deployed stored procs w/ "SELECT *" into production.[/i]

Oh my god.

For the non-technical, you know about when Kirk blew up computers by asking them to calculate all the digits of Pi? This is sort of like that.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2013 11:03 AM (B/VB5)

207 Posted by: TANSTAAFL at April 08, 2013 03:01 PM (tqAT4) For the Love of God, man, STOP!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 08, 2013 11:03 AM (bxiXv)

208 out, out damned sock.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at April 08, 2013 11:03 AM (71LDo)

209 Judging by real migration and real election results, NC has gotten more Republican (in local races, statewide races, and the 2012 Pres. Election) the more people move here. Not just Northeasterners, of course, but somehow we have a GOP Governor and Assembly for the first time since Betty White was a virgin.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 08, 2013 11:03 AM (ZshNr)

210 That's fucking twice in a row. Get your ass in the barrel.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 11:03 AM (da5Wo)

211

"if one would have their choice of areas to live in (let's say you telecommute), where/what area would you suggest one move to? "

Well, that depends on your priorities.

Do you have kids?

Can you deal with really extreme heat?

Are you a big sports fan?

Big music fan?

Love the outdoors?

There are different parts of Texas that are good for people who fall into any of those groups. Honestly, the DFW metroplex is a great place to live for almost anyone, unless you just can't take the heat. and there are some great cities in the metroplex with fabulous schools in the 200K range, or really even lower if you know where to look.

I'd say Mansfield is probably the best value in that area. Nice homes for around $150K, near Arlington which has Cowboys and Rangers Stadiums and 6 flags, but it has better schools than Arlington. Centrally located between Dallas and Ft. Worth. It's a great area.

Austin is also a great place to live, but you deal with the liberals. We live in South Austin, but are looking to buy about 10 miles south in Kyle, TX. Again, very affordable homes.

If I could live anywhere, it would actually probably be in College Station. There's no a ton of things to do, but it's so friendly, and the area around A&M is really very nice.

Houston has some nice suburbs, but it's pretty humid. I have a lot of friends in The Woodland's though. It's a more expensive area than the others listed, but again, great schools, shopping, ect.

I'm not as familiar with West Texas, but I know a lot of people love Midland even though it is out in the middle of nowhere. If you like highschool football, it's definitely the place to be.

Amarillo is, my husband claims, the most Texas Texas city there is. Similar feel as College Station, but it's not nearly as hot (in general) as the rest of Texas, and you actually have seasons.

I'd personally stay away from El Paso and the Rio Grande Valley, just because the Valley is pretty corrupt, and honestly I think there are just better places to live in Texas. Of course, there are jobs a plenty all over so if you ended up there it wouldn't be terrible, just not the best.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2013 11:04 AM (wsGWu)

212 One of these days at work I'll get fired for smacking the pampered brats
from New Jersey and California to hush their non-stop bitching about
how there's "nothing to do" in this metro area with two million people
and several bar districts and a professional football team and whatnot,
but the natives...some days they're incomprehensible.

___________

This shit pisses me off too. I don't know how many times I've heard people who moved here from Seattle whine that it's boring compared to Seattle. On more than a few occasions I've said straight up 'then, then move the fuck back to Seattle'. The fact it's boring here is the reason I moved here. I did the party every Friday night until 4am thing. Now that I have kids to raise, boring is good.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2013 11:04 AM (HDgX3)

213 My bad. Typed that out backwards. Here: http://www.cookingclarified.com/2011/02/grits-vs-polenta/

So no real difference?

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 11:04 AM (GQ8sn)

214 Bill Whittle did a video of this subject. Business going to Texas.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at April 08, 2013 11:04 AM (C2//T)

215 204 Serious Cat,

Alberta....

"sorta"

and I am not kidding.

This nation will not be free within 20 years...

they will wake you up, and you will go to bed hearing their shit...

it will never stop.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 11:04 AM (LRFds)

216 Free Lunch - Barrel.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 08, 2013 11:04 AM (fwARV)

217 Anyone else have owls in their neighborhood? We have some in the empty lot next to my house and they are in the mating seasons.

The fuckers call and scream all night.

Some owlette is getting herself fucked to death. Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 02:58 PM (wR+pz

We had one in the lot across the street from me when I first moved here and it was almost all wooded. When they went to clear the lot and found the owl all came to a halt while they called DNR to come move the owl.

That's the difference between us and CA. if it had been CA everyone with a mile would have had to move and abandon their homes with no compensation.

Posted by: Vic at April 08, 2013 11:04 AM (53z96)

218 Of course the problem is, how many states will that cede to the dumocrats?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2013 11:05 AM (SO2Q8)

219

Is there a snowy version of Texas?

Utah

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2013 11:05 AM (wsGWu)

220 I was having trouble expressing what I was trying to express, but this helps me get there. The appeal of Texas, to me, isn't that it's Southern. I'm a Northern Yankee. Southern culture is alien to me. - Ace Ace, spend more time in the South. My first real experience with the South happened in 1997 - Atlanta, to be specific - and people were so nice to me that I imagined I was being recruited by some Moonie cult. I was suspicious, and I had my guard up during my entire visit. A short time later I understood that people were being nice and friendly because...they were nice and friendly people. It opened me up to a way of life I never experiencd while growing up as a CT Yankee.

Posted by: Joejm65 at April 08, 2013 11:05 AM (XaMqH)

221 Oh, and Pioneer Project. See Allen's mirage blog.

That's what we're talking about--building the future of awesome freedom.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 08, 2013 11:05 AM (VjL9S)

222 Is there a snowy version of Texas?

Wyoming? Montana? North/South Dakota?

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 11:05 AM (GQ8sn)

223

Conservative BuzzFeed alert!!

Karl Rove shows us a THIRD sex position!!

Posted by: Stateless Infidel's Conservative BuzzFeed at April 08, 2013 11:05 AM (AC0lD)

224 @36 - Let me be the first to welcome you to town.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 08, 2013 11:05 AM (44PWr)

225 There IS such a thing as a free barrel.

Posted by: TISATAAFB at April 08, 2013 11:05 AM (ggRof)

226 So no real difference?

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 03:04 PM (GQ8sn)

*narrows eyes*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 11:05 AM (da5Wo)

227 already stated, but wants re-stating:

Texas is part of The West rather than The South.

yeah, it's 'southwest', but more West than South. Iffn you live or lived there, you know what I mean

Posted by: Rod from Rotterdam at April 08, 2013 11:06 AM (Dll6b)

228 Texas isn't my cup of tea. I hear people harping about how great and free it is down there but my weed stash which is usually a few ounces at all times would get me thrown in the clink. Where I'm at now I'd get a $100 fine for the same amount. So, yeah, I'm not giving that up.

Posted by: Whatev at April 08, 2013 11:06 AM (A7Wh1)

229 Okay, back to working. I just had to share my misery.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 08, 2013 11:06 AM (/PCJa)

230 Texas is a state of mind. You should adopt it, not run to it. That's surrender, or Frenchie.

Posted by: tasker at April 08, 2013 11:06 AM (r2PLg)

231

Here is the URL of the Bill Whittle video. http://tinyurl.com/cl7lsea

Go to Youtube and search afterburner Going out of business Worth the watch.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at April 08, 2013 11:06 AM (C2//T)

232 221 Royal Oil,

I'm in like flynn and I want to help you guys make something.

I'm backing Allen G to the 9s.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 11:06 AM (LRFds)

233 Leave to the nutmeggers to sabotage their own economy based on the insane doings of a single madman.

Posted by: Capt. John Allspice at April 08, 2013 11:06 AM (WM+rJ)

234 i really can't relate to a large portion of the country , and it's flagrant disreguard for truth. Posted by: willow at April 08, 2013 03:01 PM (nqBYe) Only way they can keep the totalitarianism rolling. Can't have someone (especially a strong conservative female) outshine the child in the WH, or the "only woman leader in their eyes" shrillary. They must lie to achieve their goals. They have no other way. God forbid we celebrate Thatcher, Reagan, conservative women, success, and liberty.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 08, 2013 11:07 AM (XYSwB)

235 *narrows eyes*

*brushes poncho away to reveal Colt SAA revolver*

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 11:07 AM (GQ8sn)

236 217 Anyone else have owls in their neighborhood? We have some in the empty lot next to my house and they are in the mating seasons.

We have great horned owls here, but they mate in the fall. They're eery-sounding at night.

Husband went out for the paper in the pre-dawn one morning, and one swooped down right next to him and grabbed some creature off the ground. Freaked him out.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2013 11:07 AM (lVPtV)

237

@186

Well, if you put too much weight on the back of a trailer and take a turn too fast, lateral motion and Newtoinian physics being what they are, there's a pretty good chance it may end up tumpt over.

This revelation that that wasn't really a word came to me via a jurisprudence prof going over Wiggenstien or something, who asked the class of mostly Texans if we knew what it meant, of which most of us did, although that really isn't a word.

Over yonder is stranger in use. My grandpa used to talk about being in WWII over yonder. He also talked about the cattle pens over yonder. Half a mile, 5000 miles away, same thing.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 08, 2013 11:07 AM (t06LC)

238

204 Is there a snowy version of Texas?

Northwest Texas got a couple of feet of snow this year.

Posted by: wheatie at April 08, 2013 11:07 AM (GwAS0)

239 But in Connecticut, as in many of the big liberal states, the year is always 1974.

Never go full 1974.

Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2013 11:07 AM (KXm42)

240 >>>Good fucking riddance

The best part of that derp? Absolutely no long term hazard exists in geographically polarizing the US along political lines. No..Hazard..Whatsoever.

You know I've lived here in Cali, most of my life. I've watched it over the decades of that life piss away the residual prosperity it had from the gold industry, and the oil industry, and in my lifetime the computation Industry. Every cent of the money from three of the most significant economic booms this nation has ever seen....gone.

You imagine an America without conservative states as a boon, because of the fading glory of now progressive strongholds make them look good on paper today. Like Havisham still dressed in the nuptial gown, staring at a rotted feast and disintegrating linens, you imagine the celebration is still real the party still going on, because the house hasn't fallen down yet, because the decayed vestiges still in form resemble the glory of yesteryear close enough that you can imagine the greatness of the fading moment in the sun. But progressive states are the run down and crumbling mansions of greatness long past. Rotted out by progressivism, just waiting to collapse of their own accord.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 08, 2013 11:07 AM (0q2P7)

241 200 Ace, move to Georgia. We're still free here.

And, "bless your heart."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2013 03:03 PM
=======

Jane,

What part of GA?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 11:08 AM (aDwsi)

242 To me the northeast is New England, just because that's how my thinking is centered geographically. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at April 08, 2013 02:57 PM (4df7R) Same here. New York to me has always been its own place: Not the South or New England, just New York. Plus, being a Sox fan, New Englanders are Sox fans to me. New Yorkers are Yankees fans and not allowed to be from New England. heh.

Posted by: Mainah at April 08, 2013 11:08 AM (659DL)

243 everyone knows what "over yonder" means but what the heck does "tumpt over" mean? I tumpt over that barrel that Curly done been washin' his drawers in.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2013 11:08 AM (GFM2b)

244 230 Tasker,

No offense meant to Texas...

she ran like hell until it was time...

"the right ground finally....what is you name?"

//Sam Houston at San Jacinto

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 11:08 AM (LRFds)

245 Where did Magpul end up going?

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 11:08 AM (GQ8sn)

246

Anyone else have owls in their neighborhood? We have some in the empty lot next to my house and they are in the mating seasons.

If they're noisy tonight just do like Joe Biden advises and blast a couple shots from your shotgun off the front porch into the night.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 08, 2013 11:08 AM (4df7R)

247 211 Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2013 03:04 PM (wsGWu)

Thanks Lauren - that was very helpful! Time to do some more research!

Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at April 08, 2013 11:08 AM (YLZSZ)

248 Wyoming -- isn't that the snowy Tejas now?

Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2013 11:08 AM (KXm42)

249 Posted by: TANSTAAFL at April 08, 2013 03:00 PM (tqAT4)

We have had the problem with pasting from word and internet articles long enough know that there is no excuse for that shit.

YOU.CAN.NOT.COPY.AND.PASTE without going through something that strips all the encoding out. Notepad will work.

Posted by: Vic at April 08, 2013 11:08 AM (53z96)

250 we're all solipsistic I thought that was just me.

Posted by: Blacksheep at April 08, 2013 11:08 AM (8/DeP)

251

@222

Wyomiong. I did some oil work there last year, it felt like home. Montana had too many paleo liberals for my liking.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 08, 2013 11:08 AM (t06LC)

252 *narrows eyes*
*brushes poncho away to reveal Colt SAA revolver*

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 03:07 PM (GQ8sn)

Tumbleweed blows by as townsfolk dart inside, shuttering windows and closing doors.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 08, 2013 11:09 AM (fwARV)

253 @180 Get a camera. Make a video. Start a website. There's a niche market for it, I'm sure. Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 08, 2013 03:00 PM (AC0lD) It's been done, one of those boxes is in the lot next to my house. He use to have a live feed in it, but I think that is down. http://tinyurl.com/72lrvbv

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 11:09 AM (wR+pz)

254 the 'blue laws' were a vestige of the South in Texas, but they're mostly gone

in 1978, there was still a list of items you couldn't sell on Sundays--anything to do with work. Got rid of that in the early 80s, although they kept a bit in to make car dealerships close on either Sat or Sunday

Wyoming is Texas North, without any blue laws, with a lot of quirky people

Posted by: Rod from Rotterdam at April 08, 2013 11:09 AM (Dll6b)

255 I'm having to debug code that has "SELECT *" for real production code scattered all over the place. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 08, 2013 03:02 PM (/PCJa) Wth, was someone using that as placeholder coding? Here. Lemme shove some Val U Rite through the usb port for you.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 08, 2013 11:09 AM (VtjlW)

256 *brushes poncho away to reveal Colt SAA revolver*

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 03:07 PM (GQ8sn)

*racks Mossberg 500*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 11:09 AM (da5Wo)

257
Jane,

What part of GA?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 03:08 PM (aDwsi)

We're on the coast, just a few minutes south of Savannah.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2013 11:09 AM (lVPtV)

258 Posted by: TANSTAAFL at

NOTEPAD, motherfucker. DO YOU SPEAK IT?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 08, 2013 11:09 AM (mN8D3)

259 Annette Funicello has passed. Requiescat in pace, la mia signora italiana!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at April 08, 2013 11:10 AM (7ObY1)

260 I want a place with Maryland geography and weather, only more reliably snowy. Also, tech jobs. But not as humid, but without that "soft" water you get from mountains (bad for hair).

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 08, 2013 11:10 AM (UypUQ)

261 Is there a snowy version of Texas? Northwest Texas got a couple of feet of snow this year. Dalhart.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2013 11:10 AM (GFM2b)

262 >>>This shit pisses me off too. I don't know how many times I've heard people who moved here from Seattle whine that it's boring compared to Seattle. On more than a few occasions I've said straight up 'then, then move the fuck back to Seattle'.

To be fair, I really love Seattle and the whole Puget Sound area. The whole Pacific Northwest, really. I think there's a part of me that really just wants to live in a weird old Eastern WA town like Twin Peaks.

Before you ask: yes, I love rain and overcast weather. I'm weird like that.

Posted by: Jeff B. at April 08, 2013 11:10 AM (bcLhD)

263 But in Connecticut, as in many of the big liberal states, the year is always 1974.

So, awesome Earth Wind and Fire records, and nothing else to look forward to?

Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2013 11:10 AM (B/VB5)

264 We're on the coast, just a few minutes south of Savannah.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2013 03:09 PM (lVPtV)

*waves*

You're less than 2 hours to my north.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 11:10 AM (da5Wo)

265 Last year, wholesale price of electricity hit as low as 3.3 cent a kilowatt.

Natural gas.

Look at your power bill and tell me what you're paying.

Our city is calling for 50 Megawatts of production online by 2017.

Who's building the future?

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 08, 2013 11:11 AM (VjL9S)

266 If I owned Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas.

Posted by: Philip Sheridan ( General and ass-kicker ) at April 08, 2013 11:11 AM (Dll6b)

267 Over yonder is stranger in use. My grandpa used to talk about being in WWII over yonder. He also talked about the cattle pens over yonder. Half a mile, 5000 miles away, same thing. Posted by: Jollyroger at April 08, 2013 03:07 PM (t06LC) Also "in a minute" = "any length of time from seconds to aeons."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 08, 2013 11:12 AM (bxiXv)

268 I tumpt over that barrel that Curly done been washin' his drawers in.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2013 03:08 PM (GFM2b)

So it's kind of like "turned over" if spoken through a mouthful of burlap?

I'm always trying to figure out how some of these regional colloquialisms evolved. I know up here in New England it's a lot of British, Irish and French malapropisms and pronunciations smushed together.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 08, 2013 11:12 AM (4df7R)

269

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at April 08, 2013 03:01 PM (tqAT4)

-----------------------------------

These two posts aren't the first time you've done this. Fuck the barrel. You need to be banned. You're doing this purposely.

Posted by: Soona at April 08, 2013 11:12 AM (rVKKx)

270 ...idea home is on the peak of a mountain... and I commute to work via a gondola to the base of the mountain. The town is diverse, but I'm the most conservative resident. The liberals in town are conflicted, as they don't care for my politics, but think I have an awesome personality.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 08, 2013 11:12 AM (UypUQ)

271 Anyone else have owls in their neighborhood? ---- Had one in the backyard tree once and it scared the shit out of me. Sitting up there all huge and staring at me. I hauled ass into the house.

Posted by: Whatev at April 08, 2013 11:12 AM (A7Wh1)

272
*waves*

You're less than 2 hours to my north.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 03:10 PM (da5Wo

*waves back*

You down around Brunswick? Wait, that's just an hour from us, I believe.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2013 11:12 AM (lVPtV)

273 257
Jane,

What part of GA?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 03:08 PM (aDwsi)

We're on the coast, just a few minutes south of Savannah.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2013 03:09 PM
================

Ah. I have to tell that when I drive down in that direction, I am always amused by Richmond Hill. There can't be a hill within 300 miles. Anyhow, I spent much of my youth just N. of Savannah. That was before the carpetbaggers showed up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 11:13 AM (aDwsi)

274

"If Texas secedes, I'm going home."

If Texas secedes, I'm selling (or burning, if necessary) my existing home to go "home".

Posted by: Jaws at April 08, 2013 11:13 AM (4I3Uo)

275 @236 Jan, One year our owl would not get out of our driveway. Clearly he was fucked out. We got out and tried to get him to fly off, he would have none of it. Another year he swooped down in the middle of the day and grabbed my sons little wind up plane. As he sat on the roof with the little thing in his talons, he started to realize he had fucked up. I swear, I have seen an embarrassed owl. He finally flew off.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 11:13 AM (wR+pz)

276 Oh. Look. A completely freakish fish and the only place in the world with a captive breeding pair? Japan. I see no possible way for this to go wrong. http://nbcnews.to/XmwrYX

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 08, 2013 11:13 AM (VtjlW)

277 No problem, Astronaut Achmed (love the name, btw) Also, if you have a higher budget, Colleyville and Southlake are both very, very nice areas in DFW. A bit McMansiony, but fabulous schools if your still willing to brave public schools in general.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2013 11:13 AM (wsGWu)

278 Anyone else have owls in their neighborhood?

-------------

A couple. But it's the bullfrogs that drown out every other sound within ten miles.

Posted by: mama winger at April 08, 2013 11:13 AM (P6QsQ)

279 Anyhow, I spent much of my youth just N. of Savannah. That was before the carpetbaggers showed up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 03:13 PM (aDwsi

That's why we don't kill off the gnats. Keeps the Yankees down.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2013 11:13 AM (lVPtV)

280 Come to Texas, Ace. We can build a bunker. I'll bring the lotion.

Posted by: A-Hole at April 08, 2013 11:14 AM (+/z4q)

281 Wyoming is Texas North, without any blue laws, with a lot of quirky people

Posted by: Rod from Rotterdam at April 08, 2013 03:09 PM (Dll6b)

WY is where I want to go. But wifey will not hear of it.

Posted by: Vic at April 08, 2013 11:14 AM (53z96)

282 If I owned Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas. Posted by: Philip Sheridan ( General and ass-kicker ) And a yankee.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2013 11:14 AM (GFM2b)

283 You down around Brunswick? Wait, that's just an hour from us, I believe.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2013 03:12 PM (lVPtV)

Just across the line. Live in Fernandina, work in Jacksonville.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 11:14 AM (da5Wo)

284 274
"If Texas secedes, I'm going home."

If Texas secedes, I'm selling (or burning, if necessary) my existing home to go "home". Posted by: Jaws at April 08, 2013 03:13 PM
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Good idea. Might want to salt the ground too...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 11:14 AM (aDwsi)

285 Hive People vs. Free People

Posted by: eman at April 08, 2013 11:15 AM (umdsS)

286 ... rubs the lotion on the skin!

Posted by: Yip at April 08, 2013 11:15 AM (/jHWN)

287

I wish an ammo manufacturer would relocate to Houston. Anyway no place is perfect. Houston has its problems which includes the city government and a psychotically planned transit system. All in all though, the cost of living is great, you can golf year round, the restaurants and nightlife are as good as any city I have lived in and you can conceal carry almost everywhere. The Houston suburbs are also desirable.

Posted by: polynikes at April 08, 2013 11:15 AM (m2CN7)

288 >>>To me the northeast is New England, just because that's how my thinking is centered geographically.

Here, let me break it down for you:

Northeast = New England + NY + NJ
Midatlantic: PA + DE + MD + VA + NC (regionally this one is a recent shift)
South = All that shit below NC and southwest of VA (i.e. TN/KY) to the Mississippi river, except FL.
Midwest = OH, MI, IN, IL, WI, MN, MO
Plains = Follow a straight line from ND south to OK
Mountain West = CO, ID, MT, UT, WY
Southwest = AZ, NM, NV, TX
Pacific NW = WA, OR
Shithole = CA

Posted by: Jeff B. at April 08, 2013 11:16 AM (bcLhD)

289 Just across the line. Live in Fernandina, work in Jacksonville.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 03:14 PM (da5Wo

Love Fernandina. Luckeeee (said in Napoleon Dynamite voice).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2013 11:16 AM (lVPtV)

290 WTF, Ace isnt from Texas? huhn

     It is odd that you reference weird, there is or at least used to be a famous bumper sticker adorned by the cars of hippies in Austin, "Keep Austin Weird".
      Which has to do vaguely with the mixture of redneck country with full blown hippies, the walking incarnation of which would be Willie Nelson.

     Californians like to scoff at Texas, claiming Texans cannot create tech or businesses, thats fine, they can think anything that lets them sleep at night. But I wonder if in their blissful ignorance, they might know the story of George P. Mitchell?

Posted by: vikings fan at April 08, 2013 11:17 AM (i9tfZ)

291 Just filed our taxes, both the Fed and NY. And planning the earliest move possible to TX. Boerne, to be specific. Pronounce it BER-nie. Hill country. Ten minutes drive up to Luckenbach, or out to Comfort, over to Bandera, or down to Rudy's BBQ in Leon Springs. Doing the NY tax return is a great way to get incentivized for TX. Cuomo and Co. can kiss my ass.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at April 08, 2013 11:17 AM (PH+2B)

292 264 We're on the coast, just a few minutes south of Savannah. So when that breeze stops, how you like those mosques? IP paper plant smell much? Boy, I am downer. Best part of GA, North GA. Cleveland Co, Rayburn Co, etc.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 11:17 AM (wR+pz)

293

"Where did Magpul end up going?"

No announcement yet, AFAIK. They said they'd be phasing out of CO little by little over a period of years.

Posted by: Jaws at April 08, 2013 11:17 AM (4I3Uo)

294
276 Oh. Look. A completely freakish fish and the only place in the world with a captive breeding pair? Japan.

I see no possible way for this to go wrong.

http://nbcnews.to/XmwrYX

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 08, 2013 03:13 PM (VtjlW)

Freakish things from the deep?

You know what this calls for? Giant. Fucking. Robots.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 11:17 AM (da5Wo)

295 Oh. Look. A completely freakish fish and the only place in the world with a captive breeding pair? Japan. They'll be killing off indigenous species in the Everglades by year's end.

Posted by: Blacksheep at April 08, 2013 11:17 AM (8/DeP)

296 282 Rickb223,

I'm a Yankee....and my kin rode with Grant's forces....

and Phil Sheridan would rip off Chris Matthews' head and shit down his neck.....

Texas will be what America was meant to be.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 11:17 AM (LRFds)

297 Texas isn't The Cowboy State--WE are !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go Brown ! ( not the faggy Rhode Island one )

Posted by: Wyoming at April 08, 2013 11:17 AM (Dll6b)

298 except FL. The Regions of Florida: The Panhandle North New Jersey South Disney Not So Little Havana Margaritaville

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 08, 2013 11:18 AM (VtjlW)

299 Kind of a Catch-22 for gun manufacturers (or any manufacturer for that matter).

Either put up with blue state taxes, regulation and political bullshit in the North, or the complete lack of work ethic in the South.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 08, 2013 11:18 AM (SY2Kh)

300 Oh, and Texas is where we will break and destroy the Democrat Party.

And they know it.

Cruz scared and scares the hell out of them.

Hispanics in West Texas went 52% for Obama but 56% for Cruz.

If they lose the Hispanics, their party is dead. Same for the GOP, of course.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 08, 2013 11:18 AM (VjL9S)

301 Lauren is right about the RGV and El Paso. I am a native El Pasoan and maintain an odd affection for the city (partly because I just miss the dry heat, and hate the soggy summers where I live now) but I wouldn't raise my kids there. The schools are rotten, and it was way too easy for kids to go drinking in Mexico (it was a little safer, way back when) when I was a rotten teenager. The Valley is just a corrupt cesspool. Harlingen and McAllen (last I saw them) may as well be Mexico. I live in San Antonio right now, and it has its issues, but I do like my neighborhood, my kids schools (lots of magnet choices in the NEISD) and it was near my dad. The Dallas suburbs are looking goid, though, and honestly near Austin there's a lot to like.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 08, 2013 11:19 AM (/0G36)

302 Did my federal taxes over the weekend. Got to the end (Tourbotax) and the audit meter was pegged in the red with about five reasons listed. Haven't hit "send" yet. I'm fucked.

Posted by: Whatev at April 08, 2013 11:19 AM (A7Wh1)

303 300 Royal Oil,

Quite....it's pretty funny the donks are betting that the Hispanic will innately reject the freedoms every other group have learned to take for granted...

I'd not take that bet on their part if they did not control the press as they do.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 11:20 AM (LRFds)

304 If Texas could just move Austin to California. That place is lib-central.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2013 11:20 AM (lVPtV)

305 @298 LOL! So well put!

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 11:20 AM (wR+pz)

306 Â "the complete lack of work ethic in the South." Blink. Blink. I take it you've never actually been to Texas.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2013 11:20 AM (wsGWu)

307 or the complete lack of work ethic in the South. WTF?

Posted by: Blacksheep at April 08, 2013 11:20 AM (8/DeP)

308 292 264 We're on the coast, just a few minutes south of Savannah.

So when that breeze stops, how you like those mosques? IP paper plant smell much?

Boy, I am downer.

Best part of GA, North GA. Cleveland Co, Rayburn Co, etc. Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 03:17 PM
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Geeze..., a Geogiapaloosa. BTW..., I like the smell of sulpur dioxide in the morning..., it's the smell of profit.

Anyhow..., I got relatives in N. GA, Cleveland-ish.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 11:20 AM (aDwsi)

309 302 Whatev,

I'm on twitter...

you need some very general advicce on how red the red flags really are look me up....

@sven10077

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 11:21 AM (LRFds)

310 Either put up with blue state taxes, regulation and political bullshit in the North, or the complete lack of work ethic in the South.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 08, 2013 03:18 PM (SY2Kh)

You're kidding right? Just trying to stir it up I assume.

Posted by: polynikes at April 08, 2013 11:21 AM (m2CN7)

311 Posted by: Jeff B. at April 08, 2013 03:16 PM (bcLhD) NJ, NY, and PA are considered the Tri-State area, none of the states really considered in the North East by New Englanders. Otherwise, good list.

Posted by: Joejm65 at April 08, 2013 11:21 AM (XaMqH)

312 Freakish things from the deep? You know what this calls for? Giant. Fucking. Robots. Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 03:17 PM (da5Wo) You know what else this calls for? A new Pacific Rim trailer. *shakes internets* I know one's in there! Give it to me!
I'll just have to content myself with watching Hermione smack Seth Rogan in the face with an ax handle in the meantime.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 08, 2013 11:21 AM (VtjlW)

313 ot JEWISH UNIVERSITY CRITICIZED FOR PRESENTING FORMER PRESIDENT CARTER WITH AN AWARD Pro-Israel activists have launched a campaign to prevent a Jewish university from presenting anti-Israel former President Jimmy Carter with the schoolÂ’s Â“International Advocate for Peace Award.Â” Yeshiva UniversityÂ’s Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law is scheduled to present Carter with the award on Wednesday. Harvard law professor: Â‘[Carter] has more blood on his hands than practically any other presidentÂ’ Coalition of Concerned Cardozo Alumni: Â‘For those familiar with Jimmy Carter's recent involvement in the Israel-Arab conflict, they will know that he has an ignominious history of demonizing IsraelÂ’ Opponents of award said Carter is guilty of maintaining perception that Israel is an apartheid state the world is upside down ht freebeacon

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 08, 2013 11:21 AM (XYSwB)

314 Don't disregard Oklahoma either. A demented ewok could thrive here.

Posted by: Soona at April 08, 2013 02:45 PM (rVKKx)

Amen, Brother Soona, Texas gets a lot of deservedly good press, but, one would be hard pressed to find a better place for Conservatives than Oklahoma. We have a Republican Governor, Both Senators are Conservative GOP, and all Congress Critters, plus both the State houses. Additionally, not one county voted for Barky in 2008 or 2012, it's hard to find a precinct that went for him. My brand new Congress Critter, Bridenstine, was one of 9 who voted against Boehner for Speaker. We do have an income tax and Texas doesn't, but, Texas had other taxes to get that same revenue stream, so it's a wash. As for guns, we have concealed and open carry. It is also an unwritten rule that even without a concealed carry permit, any woman can have a gun in the console of her car. When stopped, she just bats her eyes at the officer and says, "I keep this in my car in case I get a flat tire."

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, FLLDFC Gangstette Wily Wench at April 08, 2013 11:21 AM (kXoT0)

315 307 or the complete lack of work ethic in the South. I hear a dog whistle!

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 11:21 AM (wR+pz)

316 >>>Colt Manufacturing Company Moving to... Texas Just to be clear, we are talking about malt liquor, correct?

Posted by: Eaton Cox at April 08, 2013 11:21 AM (DLsRw)

317 299 Hollowpoint,

Yeah I've lived and worked in both...

I've yet to meet ANY being on this planet as lazy as a Yankee govt employee....

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 11:22 AM (LRFds)

318

@291

It reminds me, nothing gives me more pleasure than hearing a yankee try to pronounce Bexar.

@297

That may be, but our rodeo is bigger, and we have more cowboys. Nothing wrong with Wyoming, but the county I worked in over there had 800 or so people in it. That was it. I ate at the same pizza place 2 meals a day for the entire week because it was the only place to go.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 08, 2013 11:22 AM (t06LC)

319

or the complete lack of work ethic in the South.

Um, wat?

Posted by: Jaws at April 08, 2013 11:22 AM (4I3Uo)

320 @111 - Williamson County (Round Rock or Georgetown), which are just north of Austin. Central to the state, close enough to the city in case you want to go to town for something and pretty damn red to make up for the freaks.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 08, 2013 11:22 AM (44PWr)

321 If I owned Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas.
Posted by: Philip Sheridan ( General and ass-kicker )

And a yankee.
---

Crashed my shad fry, too.

Posted by: Geoge Pickett at April 08, 2013 11:22 AM (HjPtV)

322

>> everyone knows what "over yonder" means but what the heck does "tumpt over" mean?

I have a BIL who told me once he "clumped" a fence.

That was a new one for me.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at April 08, 2013 11:22 AM (WvXvd)

323 lack of work ethic in the south? huh?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 08, 2013 11:22 AM (GVxQo)

324 WH: Treasury Dept. Responsible for Jay-Z, Beyonce Cuba Trip freebeacon

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 08, 2013 11:22 AM (XYSwB)

325 ( within Denton County , circa the 80s)

two liquor stores in Lake Dallas, but no bars------no liquor stores or bars in Lewisville, but 'private clubs' ( wink wink )------no bars or liquor stores in Denton------no liquor stores in Farmer's Branch, but several bars.

"local option" gone wild

Posted by: Wyoming at April 08, 2013 11:23 AM (Dll6b)

326 302 Did my federal taxes over the weekend. Got to the end (Tourbotax) and the audit meter was pegged in the red with about five reasons listed. Haven't hit "send" yet. I'm fucked. Posted by: Whatev at April 08, 2013 03:19 PM
=========

Use the Tim Geitner gambit, : "Ooops..., I didn't know that was taxable..."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 11:23 AM (aDwsi)

327 315 307 or the complete lack of work ethic in the South.

I hear a dog whistle!

No shit. The hell?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2013 11:23 AM (lVPtV)

328 To me the northeast is New England, just because that's how my thinking is centered geographically. Here, let me break it down for you: Northeast = New England + NY + NJ Midatlantic: PA + DE + MD + VA + NC (regionally this one is a recent shift) South = All that shit below NC and southwest of VA (i.e. TN/KY) to the Mississippi river, except FL. Midwest = OH, MI, IN, IL, WI, MN, MO Plains = Follow a straight line from ND south to OK Mountain West = CO, ID, MT, UT, WY Southwest = AZ, NM, NV, TX Pacific NW = WA, OR Shithole = CA Texas. Everyone else.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2013 11:23 AM (GFM2b)

329 217 Anyone else have owls in their neighborhood? We have some in the empty lot next to my house and they are in the mating seasons. No, but we have rabbits out the wazoo where i live about 30 miles north of downtown Dallas. I have lived in this particular neighborhood for over 5 yrs now and no stopping the rabbits multiplying, kinda like libs when you don't keep 'em in check.

Posted by: Lando's BFG at April 08, 2013 11:23 AM (hzSVV)

330 WH: Treasury Dept. Responsible for Jay-Z, Beyonce Cuba Trip

Nice. The very same Dept. that will fine you and confiscate any goods brought back from Cuba.

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 11:23 AM (GQ8sn)

331 310 Polynikes,

maybe-Hollowpoint is good folk...

that said a lot of New England Yankees hold on to some illusions like a drunk on hooch...especially conservatives stuck in blue land....

keeps 'em sane

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 11:23 AM (LRFds)

332 297 Texas isn't The Cowboy State--WE are !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Brown ! ( not the faggy Rhode Island one ) Posted by: Wyoming at April 08, 2013 03:17 PM (Dll6b) ---- I incorporated my (online) business in Wyoming because the corporate taxes are a flat rate of $50 a year. But to do it I had to drive there and open a bank account in person due to 9/11. So I'm sitting in the bank making small talk with the lady in a tiny town just over the border and I say "this seems like a nice area". Her face goes from smiling to a look of dread and she starts talking about the drought. One of the funnier changes of expression I ever witnessed.

Posted by: Whatev at April 08, 2013 11:24 AM (A7Wh1)

333

Oh. Look. A completely freakish fish and the only place in the world with a captive breeding pair? Japan.

-------------------------------------------------

Watch. The UN envirodouches will be calling for a ban of all fishing off the coasts of Japan.

Posted by: Soona at April 08, 2013 11:24 AM (rVKKx)

334 If you could get to the beach from N Ga without a plane or an eight hour drive, I'd move there tomorrow. Got to have some beach time.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 11:24 AM (wR+pz)

335 Did my federal taxes over the weekend. Got to the end (Tourbotax) and
the audit meter was pegged in the red with about five reasons listed.
Haven't hit "send" yet. I'm fucked.

Pay for the TurboTax representation and have them handle any IRS bullshit for you.

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 11:24 AM (GQ8sn)

336 I'm having to debug code that has "SELECT *" for real production code scattered all over the place.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 08, 2013 03:02 PM (/PCJa)

Oooh....that SUCKS.

The programmers should be taken out back and shot.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 08, 2013 11:24 AM (xmcEQ)

337 I have lived in this particular neighborhood for over 5 yrs now and no stopping the rabbits multiplying

MOAR CATS.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 08, 2013 11:25 AM (/kI1Q)

338 Oh, and I've lived in TX all my life (save 6 months of insanity in CA) and I've never heard "tumpt over". Very rare to hear yonder used without irony.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 08, 2013 11:25 AM (/0G36)

339

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, FLLDFC Gangstette Wily Wench at April 08, 2013 03:21 PM (kXoT0)

I would agree with everything you have said except that I still can't get over an Oklahoma jury convicting that pharmacist of first degree murder of an armed robber.

But yeah we have Austin and the Valley.

Posted by: polynikes at April 08, 2013 11:25 AM (m2CN7)

340 318 Jolly Roger,

I am trying to convince one of my "extra job" managers to set up a semi-mobile pizza joint for the roughnecks...

"Hell on Wheels2"

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 11:25 AM (LRFds)

341

On the California thing...

What you are seeing is what happens when you have too much government.

Government takes money, and does SOME needed things... but when you have too much its just like Friction in an engine.... some friction is needed so the engine does not run too fast, but too much and it becomes inefficient, and if it increases the engine stops running.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2013 11:25 AM (lZBBB)

342 If you could get to the beach from N Ga without a plane or an eight hour drive, I'd move there tomorrow. Got to have some beach time. Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 03:24 PM (wR+pz) amen

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 08, 2013 11:26 AM (XYSwB)

343 best Czech food is in the town of West, less than an hour south of DFW on I -35

whole town used to be thick with Czechs: Billy Bob Banacek, etc

Posted by: Rod from Rotterdam at April 08, 2013 11:26 AM (Dll6b)

344 When I lived in TX I was hired on the spot at a print shop even though I had zero experience. A few weeks later I asked the Texas bred and born owner why he had hired me with no experience when everyone else in the shop had a lot of experience. He said "As soon as you opened your mouth I knew you were a Yankee, and Yankees always make good workers. Better work ethic." Soon I was learning Texas-isms like "Put that ratch ear, boy!" Ratch ear = right here. Took me awhile.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at April 08, 2013 11:26 AM (7ObY1)

345 >> everyone knows what "over yonder" means but what the heck does "tumpt over" mean? I'll get back with you in a tad, OK?

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 11:26 AM (wR+pz)

346 337 I presume that "progammer" that did that is no longer with us...?

Posted by: Lando's BFG at April 08, 2013 11:26 AM (hzSVV)

347 I'll just have to content myself with watching Hermione smack Seth Rogan in the face with an ax handle in the meantime.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 08, 2013 03:21 PM (VtjlW)

1) OMGWHERE?!?!?

2) http://tinyurl.com/cp8kh23

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 11:26 AM (da5Wo)

348 313

ot

JEWISH UNIVERSITY CRITICIZED FOR PRESENTING FORMER PRESIDENT CARTER WITH AN AWARD
..........
the world is upside down

ht freebeacon Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 08, 2013 03:21 PM
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Ever since Clinton was awarded "Father of the Year", my perception of reality has been reeling....

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 11:26 AM (aDwsi)

349

Oooh....that SUCKS.

The programmers should be taken out back and shot.

Posted by: Â© Sponge at April 08, 2013 03:24 PM (xmcEQ)

That, and whoever 'supposedly' tested this thing before it went into production.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2013 11:27 AM (lZBBB)

350 335 If you could get to the beach from N Ga without a plane or an eight hour drive, I'd move there tomorrow.

Got to have some beach time.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 03:24 PM (wR+pz

I love the coast, but I'm sick to death of hurricane season. If my husband ever retires and sells his business, my dream is to move to the N. GA or SC mtns. I don't see him selling the business or wanting to retire anytime soon.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2013 11:27 AM (lVPtV)

351

Re Heinlen/Luna comment.

Everyone on this blog must read Robert Heinlen's book Take Back Your Government.

It's about the most basic fucking strategies for winning elections and taking back the party.

Hence my original question re cargo vans and GOTV. Awesome.

Posted by: Prescient11 at April 08, 2013 11:27 AM (tVTLU)

352 345 BlueStateRebel,

That's true...Boss said I worked my ass off "because I was a damnyankee"...was fond of pointing out work was still there tomorrow...

all that said they do work hard and are better at understanding business morality than the YankSocs

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 11:27 AM (LRFds)

353 He said "As soon as you opened your mouth I knew you were a Yankee, and Yankees always make good workers. Better work ethic." I think what he meant was he knew you would show up on the opening day of deer season, dove season and when the fish are running.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 11:27 AM (wR+pz)

354 >>>NJ, NY, and PA are considered the Tri-State area, none of the states really considered in the North East by New Englanders. Otherwise, good list.

Nice try, dude, but NJ and NY are your crosses to bear, not the rest of ours. Yanks and Sox fans shall be joined together in mutual hatred and cultural bonds of commonality forever more!

Posted by: Jeff B. at April 08, 2013 11:28 AM (bcLhD)

355 JEWISH UNIVERSITY CRITICIZED FOR PRESENTING FORMER PRESIDENT CARTER WITH AN AWARD

I know. I saw that and hoped that it was an "Asshole Award" or something similar, but they're Serious You Guys about how wonderful and Peace-Oriented he is.

Academia: nuke it from orbit, just to be sure.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2013 11:28 AM (B/VB5)

356 "They continue partying like it's 1974." Yeah, and on your nickel, too!

Posted by: Pops at April 08, 2013 11:28 AM (QjFDb)

357

I'm reading Margaret Thatcher quotes. Now I'm very sad....

"No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions; he had money as well." (London Weekend Television, 1/6/80)

"Throughout my life, I've always believed that life's path is determined by a Force more powerful than fate. I feel the Lord has brought us together for a profound purpose and that I have been richly blessed for having known you." (From eulogy to Reagan, 2004)

"To me, consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects." (Speech at Monash University, 10/6/81)

"You know, if you just set out to be liked, you would be prepared to compromise on anything, wouldn't you, at any time? And you would achieve nothing!" (Interview for Press Association, 5/3/89)

Posted by: Stateless Infidel's Conservative BuzzFeed at April 08, 2013 11:28 AM (AC0lD)

358

I spent a good deal of time in Dallas at the Mansion on Turtle Creek. Nice spot and the wife loved it.

Also spent a lot of money paying associates at one of the big legal firms there what I would pay for a partner at home. Let's depose the fucking janitors as long as we're at it seemed to be the theme down there.

Posted by: jwest at April 08, 2013 11:28 AM (u2a4R)

359

>> whole town used to be thick with Czechs: Billy Bob Banacek, etc

Lots of Czech and German all over central Texas, all the way down to San Antonio. They got off the boats in Galveston and headed northwest, founc a place they liked and stayed.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at April 08, 2013 11:28 AM (WvXvd)

360 " I'll tell you what " is one of the most popular Texas prefixes.

Posted by: polynikes at April 08, 2013 11:28 AM (m2CN7)

361

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at April 08, 2013 03:10 PM (7ObY1)

___

Oh, Soona will be mourning her passing.

Posted by: kallisto at April 08, 2013 11:28 AM (jm/9g)

362 >>>No one ever has anything good to say about California politics or society, the things man makes. It's always about the weather. Yeah, but that weather is freaking awesome. Almost makes it worthwhile. Today in the Bay Area is like a fucking Norman Rockwell painting. Unreal.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at April 08, 2013 11:28 AM (DLsRw)

363 346 Billy Bob,

in Rural Ohio it was "I'll be gone a touch"

we were a much more erudite and fluent folk once upon a time.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 11:29 AM (LRFds)

364 Very rare to hear yonder used without irony." Agreed. You will, however, hear "all y'all" at least once a day.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2013 11:29 AM (wsGWu)

365

@341

It could do well. There is usually nothing out in the oil patch itself. I would usually settle for a resturant where I was comfortable taking a leak without hosing myself down with lysol.

As far as competition goes, some weeks you have service companies fighting on who can provide free food to the company men on site, so there is that.

If you could somehow do a mobile meth lab/gun shop/bordello I think you would have found a way to own all the oilfield.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 08, 2013 11:29 AM (t06LC)

366 Not only are you freer in Texas, but also safer. There aren't all of those deadly gun-free zones to negotiate through.

Posted by: Roy at April 08, 2013 11:29 AM (VndSC)

367 Definitely seems like Texas is becoming our last hope for our constitutional freedoms. I loved Texas when i was stationed there but it's just sad in the Northeast we our turning our backs on what made our country great.

Posted by: dnice at April 08, 2013 11:29 AM (Tnt6v)

368 We've got a hoot owl that shows up outside our bedroom damn near every night around 3 (probably to sit by the pool and hunt whatever unfortunate bastards think it's a good idea to show up and drink there). There's also a a barking owl nearby that sounds like the Blair Witch soundtrack ... they sound like a screaming girl, truly bizarre until you get used to it.

Posted by: Blacksheep at April 08, 2013 11:29 AM (8/DeP)

369 ( within Denton County , circa the 80s) two liquor stores in Lake Dallas, but no bars------no liquor stores or bars in Lewisville, but 'private clubs' ( wink wink )------no bars or liquor stores in Denton------no liquor stores in Farmer's Branch, but several bars. May have been that way in the 80's. Last time I checked, this wasn't then. Denton is a two college town. Hell, there's a drive-thru beer barn just off the NTSU campus.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2013 11:29 AM (GFM2b)

370 anyone else getting nailed with wind today? it's 80 with wind here.......rotten rotten rotten weather for a rotten rotten rotten day

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 08, 2013 11:29 AM (GVxQo)

371 " I'll tell you what " is one of the most popular Texas prefixes.

So it's not just Hank Hill?

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 11:30 AM (GQ8sn)

372 I would say a "different work style" in the South. I've done concrete flat work both places many times, dealt with a hundred companies/workers. The Southern ethic is like " I move slow, I get the job done, nobody has to get all heated up and bothered if it takes us a while. Besides, let's not kill the job (wink)". Northern style is more like "Move your ass! We're gonna get these 1,500 square feet done in the time it would take us to do 2500, then we'll warm up in the truck and come back for the other 1,000 tomorrow. Let's not kill the job (wink).

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 08, 2013 11:30 AM (ZshNr)

373 354 Billy Bob,

correct...

I work to remind myself of my worthiness and show my family love...

Southerners God bless 'em work to pay to be with the ones they love.

There is a difference but they are not lazy, nor unindustrious.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 11:30 AM (LRFds)

374 338 Supposedly there is a bobcat in the neighborhood. I have talked to several that have seen it in their backyards. I have a pellet gun that I need to take out of its box and give that a whirl on the rabbits. Even though it is Texas, technically it is illegal for me to shoot an airsoft let alone a pellet gun in my backyard. So I have been hesitant to try for the neighbors behind me reporting me.

Posted by: Lando's BFG at April 08, 2013 11:30 AM (hzSVV)

375 Yeah, but that weather is freaking awesome. Almost makes it worthwhile.

I've taken several vacations in CA and the place itself is terrific. If something could just be done about all the fricking Dems...

Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2013 11:30 AM (B/VB5)

376 Can we go back to steampunk girls?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 08, 2013 11:30 AM (fwARV)

377 I'm having to debug code that has "SELECT *" for real production code scattered all over the place.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 08, 2013 03:02 PM (/PCJa)

Hey, I still do that "select *" quite often. Sometimes you really need to get everything. Plus, if you are only pulling one row what's the big whoop if you get a few extra columns?

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 08, 2013 11:31 AM (UypUQ)

378 Yeah, but that weather is freaking awesome. Almost makes it worthwhile. Today in the Bay Area is like a fucking Norman Rockwell painting. Unreal.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at April 08, 2013 03:28 PM (DLsRw)

Annnddd.... 50 MPH winds in the Central Valley....

In a State this big, you can always find someplace where the weather is nice.... just like you can find someplace its suckin...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2013 11:31 AM (lZBBB)

379 335 If you could get to the beach from N Ga without a plane or an eight hour drive, I'd move there tomorrow.

Got to have some beach time. Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 03:24 PM
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I have a reunion in Myrtle Beach next month. Not looking forward to it. I can't get back to the mountains quickly enough. Different strokes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 11:31 AM (aDwsi)

380 373 LincolnTF,

well summed.....

I'd point out that both cultures have their man v boss ethic going on....

just the Yankees get easy mode to play the game.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 11:31 AM (LRFds)

381 You're kidding right? Just trying to stir it up I assume.

No, I'm not kidding.

I don't really consider Texas being in "The South", but for whatever the reason people tend to work, move and talk infuriatingly slow.

Seriously, Atlanta- if there are three people in front of me in line at Burger King, it should not take 20 fucking minutes to reach the cashier.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 08, 2013 11:31 AM (SY2Kh)

382

"...progressive states are the run down and crumbling mansions of greatness long past. Rotted out by progressivism, just waiting to collapse of their own accord."

I'm looking at *you*, Rhode Island.

Posted by: SD3 at April 08, 2013 11:31 AM (cqZXM)

383 There's also a a barking owl nearby that sounds like the Blair Witch soundtrack ... they sound like a screaming girl, truly bizarre until you get used to it. That's when they are fucking. Almost sounds like a kid getting stabbed. My owl clearly has a big Johnson.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 11:32 AM (wR+pz)

384 I would agree with everything you have said except that I still can't get over an Oklahoma jury convicting that pharmacist of first degree murder ofan armed robber.

But yeah we have Austin and the Valley.

Posted by: polynikes at April 08, 2013 03:25 PM (m2CN7)

Have you seen the video? He went nuts on the guy, emptied his clip into him while standing over the body. The general consensus was once he shot him a couple of times and he was no longer a threat, he should've held the gun on the guy while calling the police. It was a fine line, but, he clearly crossed it.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, FLLDFC Gangstette Wily Wench at April 08, 2013 11:32 AM (kXoT0)

385 blacksheep we have a male and female owl who live on our roof.....they hoot all night over my girls' bedrooms.....thankfully we don't have the screaming kind......the coyotes do all the screaming yipping.....along with what ever they catch......ugh......full moons are brutal out here......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 08, 2013 11:32 AM (GVxQo)

386 338 Supposedly there is a bobcat in the neighborhood. I have talked to several that have seen it in their backyards. I have a pellet gun that I need to take out of its box and give that a whirl on the rabbits. Even though it is Texas, technically it is illegal for me to shoot an airsoft let alone a pellet gun in my backyard. So I have been hesitant to try for the neighbors behind me reporting me. Posted by: Lando's BFG at April 08, 2013 03:30 PM (hzSVV) Send the bobcat over to me.

Posted by: elizabethe at April 08, 2013 11:32 AM (qPCAa)

387 I think what he meant was he knew you would show up on the opening day of deer season, dove season and when the fish are running.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 03:27 PM (wR+pz)

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Heh.

Posted by: Soona at April 08, 2013 11:32 AM (rVKKx)

388 Freakish things from the deep don't call for robots. They call for human sacrifice

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at April 08, 2013 11:32 AM (3ZtZW)

389 >> I've taken several vacations in CA and the place itself is terrific. If something could just be done about all the fricking Dems... One thing about living in Santa Carla I never could stomach, all the damn vampires.

Posted by: Grandpa at April 08, 2013 11:32 AM (3BiPW)

390 371 anyone else getting nailed with wind today? it's 80 with wind here.......rotten rotten rotten weather for a rotten rotten rotten day

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 08, 2013 03:29 PM (GVxQo

We had high winds here Saturday. Went to a big event on the water and I nearly froze to death with the windchill.

Yesterday and today have been beautiful. Low 70s, light breeze, just perfect.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2013 11:33 AM (lVPtV)

391

217 Anyone else have owls in their neighborhood? We have some in the empty lot next to my house and they are in the mating seasons.

The fuckers call and scream all night.

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Have quite a few owls in the woods near us...

Mating season has already happened...so chances are, what you're hearing is a territory dispute.

When Owls are feeding babies in the nest, they get really protective of the hunting grounds around their nest.

Even further North...Owls have new babies in their nests at this time of year.

Click my nic to see a live Owl-cam of a nesting Owl with an owlet.

Posted by: wheatie at April 08, 2013 11:33 AM (GwAS0)

392 "So it's not just Hank Hill" King of the Hill is actually a nearly perfect presentation of Texas. I'm pretty sure my father in law is Hank Hill minus the drinking.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2013 11:33 AM (wsGWu)

393 Send the bobcat over to me.

Posted by: elizabethe at April 08, 2013 03:32 PM (qPCAa)

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Posted by: mama winger at April 08, 2013 11:33 AM (P6QsQ)

394 366 JollyRoger,

I can handle two of the three...

I am not psychologically able to peddle recreational pharmacy products...

they almost killed me.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 08, 2013 11:33 AM (LRFds)

395 I don't really care for Dallas.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 08, 2013 02:55 PM (t06LC)

No one likes Dallas (says my son from Ft. Worth)

Posted by: the Butcher at April 08, 2013 11:33 AM (8g9qq)

396 Can we colonize Luna already

Well there certainly wont be any leviathan government where there isn't even air.

Posted by: DaveA at April 08, 2013 11:33 AM (DL2i+)

397 Actually, Texas was settled by a lot of Southerners looking for freedom and a fresh start after the War of Northern Aggression.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, FLLDFC Gangstette Wily Wench at April 08, 2013 11:33 AM (kXoT0)

398 I have often considered relocating to Texas from Commiefornia.

However, there's just one catch.

The thing that has really transformed Commiefornia from one-time Reagan Country into a one-party liberal Democratic fiefdom has been demographics.

There were always liberal loons in CA, but they didn't have the numbers to really jam through the worst of their agenda until the Hispanic illegal immigrant tidal wave began. Between anchor babies, "family reunification", amnesty, et cetera, the Hispanic illegals slowly built up substantial political power, and now large areas of the state might as well be Alta Mexico. Linguistically, culturally, politically.

I never wanted to live in Mexico, so having my home state slowly turn into it has not been particularly welcome.

Guess what? Texas has PRECISELY THE SAME DEMOGRAPHIC PROBLEM. The place is slowly turning blue. The heavily Hispanic southern counties of Texas already pretty much are blue. So are all of the key urban cores. 43% of Texas voted for Obama last year. Getting another 7% is not that big a hurdle. Not with that steadily swelling Hispanic contingent and their serious love for Obamacare.

So moving there from CA is basically just an exercise in jumping from the frying pan to the fire. Which really sucks. It feels more than anything else as though there are fewer and fewer places to flee to.

Posted by: c at April 08, 2013 11:34 AM (gqT4g)

399 369 We've got a hoot owl that shows up outside our bedroom damn near every night around 3 (probably to sit by the pool and hunt whatever unfortunate bastards think it's a good idea to show up and drink there).

There's also a a barking owl nearby that sounds like the Blair Witch soundtrack ... they sound like a screaming girl, truly bizarre until you get used to it. Posted by: Blacksheep at April 08, 2013 03:29 PM
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Ever hear Foxes screaming? Pretty damned eerie.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 11:34 AM (aDwsi)

400
Hey, I still do that "select *" quite often. Sometimes you really need to get everything. Plus, if you are only pulling one row what's the big whoop if you get a few extra columns?

There's only two things I can think of. If you have an exceptionally wide table and the extra 2k is just too much memory to spare, or that it's harder to debug because you're not sure what the select is exactly for, because not only did the programmer select all the columns, but they didn't comment any of it.

Posted by: GMan at April 08, 2013 11:34 AM (sxq57)

401 365 Oh yeah. I'm pretty sure I use y'all here, in my little gray box, every time I show up. It really is a fabulous word, better than "all of you" or "you guys" (serious or not) or whatever they say other places.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 08, 2013 11:34 AM (/0G36)

402 Almost sounds like a kid getting stabbed. Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 03:32 PM (wR+pz) uh.... how do you know what that sounds like?

Posted by: elizabethe at April 08, 2013 11:34 AM (qPCAa)

403 365. I use "all y'all" at least once an hour! I either being or end a sentence with it. I all tend to favor the ending "... as all get out." That's a personal favorit and one I have been using for a looooong time. As the bumper stickers say, " I wasn't born here, but I got here as fast as I could."

Posted by: Lando's BFG at April 08, 2013 11:35 AM (hzSVV)

404

@385

But then there was that guy in Glaveston that aired two or three guys out with a shotgun after seeing them robbing his neighbor's house. We listened to the 911 tape in Crim law. He cooly narrates to the Op for ten minutes and when it looks llike they are gonna get away, he informs the Op that he's heading out as you hear a shotgun rack.

DA did not seek charges, although it probably was manslaughter.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 08, 2013 11:35 AM (t06LC)

405 Hollowpoint is, as usual, an idiot, or perhaps just ill-informed. (Possibly both.) The lazy concentrates in the larger cities, which can hardly be considered "Southern" (or "Southron", I see that one time to time). Rest of the place goes about its business, gets it done, moves on to the important parts of life. Gotta love it.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Shogun at April 08, 2013 11:35 AM (fMiHM)

406 I agree on the Dallas/Ft. Worth thing. I spent some time in Ft. Worth working as an IT consultant and I loved it. Ft. Worth reminded me a lot of Tulsa (only older and less logically arranged). I do care for Dallas.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, FLLDFC Gangstette Wily Wench at April 08, 2013 11:35 AM (kXoT0)

407 Have you seen the video? He went nuts on the guy, emptied his clip into him while standing over the body. The general consensus was once he shot him a couple of times and he was no longer a threat, he should've held the gun on the guy while calling the police. It was a fine line, but, he clearly crossed it.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, FLLDFC Gangstette Wily Wench at April 08, 2013 03:32 PM (kXoT0)

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Yup. Once the guy was down and bleeding out, he should have just held back. It was a shoot otherwise.

Posted by: Soona at April 08, 2013 11:36 AM (rVKKx)

408

345 BlueStateRebel,

Did he also had you a brush and ask you to whitewash the fence 'cause he didn't know how to good like you?

Posted by: polynikes at April 08, 2013 11:36 AM (m2CN7)

409 403 Almost sounds like a kid getting stabbed.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 03:32 PM (wR+pz

That you, Harry Reid?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2013 11:36 AM (lVPtV)

410 One thing about living in Santa Carla I never could stomach, all the damn vampires. Posted by: Grandpa at April 08, 2013 03:32 PM (3BiPW) death by stereo!

Posted by: elizabethe at April 08, 2013 11:36 AM (qPCAa)

411 @380 No, I agree. N GA Mt. all year, go to beach sometimes. I am not a big beach guy, but we have a house near Pawleys so I go. I need a mt house.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 11:36 AM (wR+pz)

412 = it was a GOOD shoot otherwise.

Posted by: Soona at April 08, 2013 11:36 AM (rVKKx)

413 Almost sounds like a kid getting stabbed.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 08, 2013 03:32 PM (wR+pz)

uh.... how do you know what that sounds like?

Posted by: elizabethe at April 08, 2013 03:34 PM (qPCAa)

LOL! You should have heard my son getting his vaccinations! He was talking like a hostage negotiator right up until he got the needle in his thigh.

"Wait! Can't we talk this over?!?! I have to go to the bathroomAAAAAHHH!!!!"

Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 11:37 AM (GQ8sn)

414 the coyotes do all the screaming yipping.....along with what ever they catch......ugh......full moons are brutal out here...... Yeah, the coyotes are pretty creepy too. My big baby of a German Shepherd would come bedside and want to get up with us when they started up ... we were like "way to protect us," and she was all "whatever, scoot over."

Posted by: Blacksheep at April 08, 2013 11:37 AM (8/DeP)

415 Have you seen the video? He went nuts on the guy, emptied his clip into him while standing over the body. The general consensus was once he shot him a couple of times and he was no longer a threat, he should've held the gun on the guy while calling the police. It was a fine line, but, he clearly crossed it. If he'd have been a Kali cop, he'd have gotten a promotion.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2013 11:38 AM (GFM2b)

416

@399

We do, but if I were an illegal, I would probably go to a state that was more accomidating than Texas as far as handouts go. They get the Fed goodies here, not too much as far as the state goes like Cali.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 08, 2013 11:38 AM (t06LC)

417 Defcad just released "The Feinstein" 30 rd AK mag. Download it while you can.
I think they even have M16 lower and lightning links on their site.

I gotta get out of NY.
I wonder if Hillary allies are behind the prosecution of all these NY pols lately. Try to smear Cuomo with Albany's corruption and derail his 2016 run.

Posted by: Iblis at April 08, 2013 11:38 AM (9221z)

418 Hell, there's a drive-thru beer barn just off the NTSU campus.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2013 03:29 PM (GFM2b)

yes, beer and wine was for sale at some stores, but no bars stores selling "beverage alcohol". No 'open container law' meant you could enjoy your cold beer on the drive home from work.

Posted by: Rod from Rotterdam at April 08, 2013 11:38 AM (Dll6b)

419 Is there a Texan version of Colorado? You know, all the mountains and freedom minus the cray cray?

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs are Really SMOD in Disguise at April 08, 2013 11:38 AM (XgvL/)

420

369...There's also a a barking owl nearby that sounds like the Blair Witch soundtrack ... they sound like a screaming girl, truly bizarre until you get used to it.

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Maybe a Screech Owl?

Those fuckers could wake the dead.

Posted by: wheatie at April 08, 2013 11:38 AM (GwAS0)

421

I don't think "Weirdoes" has an 'e'

Trust me on this

Posted by: Dan Quayle at April 08, 2013 11:38 AM (nCSwS)

422 Yeah I've lived and worked in both...

I've yet to meet ANY being on this planet as lazy as a Yankee govt employee....

Government employees are lazy everywhere.

I once almost started the Civil War II in the Atlanta airport after putting up with the snail pace everyone operated at.

Not just at the ticket counter, security line, baggage handlers, fast food joints- EVERYONE.

After 2 hours of that shit I blurted out "I can't wait to get back North were people have a goddamned work ethic".

I just happened to be walking by a group of baggage handlers who were "on break" (probably for the 10th time that day), in the middle of the walkway, sitting on the luggage. I may have gotten some dirty looks.

New Orleans was no better. Neither was central Florida.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 08, 2013 11:38 AM (SY2Kh)

423 >>>So moving there from CA is basically just an exercise in jumping from the frying pan to the fire. Which really sucks.

Meh. More like jumping from a frying pan that's been on the stove for 10 minutes to one that was put on just now. It doesn't solve your long term problem, but it gives you more time to find a solution.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 08, 2013 11:38 AM (0q2P7)

424 Here I sit My buns a flexin' Givin' birth To another Texan Burma Shave

Posted by: Okie at heart at April 08, 2013 11:39 AM (Y2EMs)

425 Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 03:37 PM (GQ8sn) LOL! my kid goes into full blown screaming meltdown as soon as he hears the word "shot." the first time we took my baby to get some vaccinations he looked that the needles and said "I'm going to stand outside." and he left the room.

Posted by: elizabethe at April 08, 2013 11:39 AM (qPCAa)

426 341 318 Jolly Roger,

I am trying to convince one of my "extra job" managers to set up a semi-mobile pizza joint for the roughnecks...

"Hell on Wheels2"
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That's one I'm kicking around to fund next. The oil boom keeps getting closer to here.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 08, 2013 11:40 AM (VjL9S)

427 Is there a Texan version of Colorado? You know, all the mountains and freedom minus the cray cray?

West Texas is mountains.

Posted by: Department of Acuracy at April 08, 2013 11:40 AM (+I8Mq)

428 Back of my lot, there is an Indian Smoke Shop (Okie thing) that has about 2 wooded acres. There is an owl in one of the hickory trees that hoots every night.

Smoke Shop in Oklahoma on Tribal Land, the tribes sell cigarettes without any taxes. That used to be one of their main sources of income before the casinos.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, FLLDFC Gangstette Wily Wench at April 08, 2013 11:40 AM (kXoT0)

429 After 2 hours of that shit I blurted out "I can't wait to get back North were people have a goddamned work ethic".

Yup.

Posted by: Elevator Operator Union Local 216 at April 08, 2013 11:40 AM (GQ8sn)

430 One thing about living in Santa Carla I never could stomach, all the damn vampires.
Posted by: Grandpa

You should check out Sacramento.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 08, 2013 11:40 AM (3+QKS)

431 C. Texas' Tejano culture is really baked into the cake. You can't really separate Texas from the fact that it used to be a part of Mexico,but honestly I'd say that's a good thing. If we could really secure the borders to keep out thrcriminal element, there's no way Texas becomes a blue state.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2013 11:41 AM (wsGWu)

432 421 El Paso has mountains. But not the kind you can ski on, sorry. Our mountains are strictly for hiking, watching Cohen Stadium fireworks for free, and the manufacture of future El Pasoans.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 08, 2013 11:41 AM (/0G36)

433 Maybe a Screech Owl? Those fuckers could wake the dead. Could be, I'm not really a wildlife expert, I just live in BFE. Guess I need to check 'em out on Youtube (along with foxes apparently). Maybe I just need to move closer in to town.

Posted by: Blacksheep at April 08, 2013 11:42 AM (8/DeP)

434

Now if oil can just be discovered in Texas, all their problemos would be solved!

Posted by: torabora at April 08, 2013 11:42 AM (8vPB7)

435 May have been that way in the 80's. Last time I checked, this wasn't then. Denton is a two college town.
Hell, there's a drive-thru beer barn just off the NTSU campus.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2013 03:29 PM (GFM2b)

And, there's a bar ON campus. And, it's UNT now. The University of North Texas. That was changed from NTSU about 15 - 20 years ago.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 08, 2013 11:42 AM (xmcEQ)

436 415
LOL! You should have heard my son getting his vaccinations! He was talking like a hostage negotiator right up until he got the needle in his thigh.
"Wait! Can't we talk this over?!?! I have to go to the bathroomAAAAAHHH!!!!"
Posted by: EC at April 08, 2013 03:37 PM
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Yeah, I had an ulcer perforate an artery, keeled over, etc, etc. I briefly came to at the Emergency room as they were trying to shove a scope down my throat and contemplating putting me on a ventilator. Through the haze, I explained that I did NOT feel like doing this just then, and we would have to do it later. They did NOT listen.....

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 11:42 AM (aDwsi)

437 Yup. Once the guy was down and bleeding out, he should have just held back. It was a shoot otherwise.

Posted by: Soona at April 08, 2013 03:36 PM (rVKKx)

Yes, and in the video I have seen he was enjoying emptying that clip. His eyes got weird, really weird--Charlie Manson weird.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, FLLDFC Gangstette Wily Wench at April 08, 2013 11:43 AM (kXoT0)

438 Odd as it sounds one of the last straws for myself and Cali was walking into the bank I had been banking with for 10 years to cash my paycheck and having it get refused because my ID had expired a few days before. It was one of those "yep, I'm getting the fuck out" moments. A few months later in my new state I noticed that they knew my name at the bank, and except for opening the bank account they haven't asked for my ID in the entire 20 years I've been here.

Posted by: Whatev at April 08, 2013 11:44 AM (A7Wh1)

439

>> Supposedly there is a bobcat in the neighborhood. I have talked to several that have seen it in their backyards. I have a pellet gun that I need to take out of its box and give that a whirl on the rabbits. Even though it is Texas, technically it is illegal for me to shoot an airsoft let alone a pellet gun in my backyard. So I have been hesitant to try for the neighbors behind me reporting me.

Heh! You hit that bobcat with a pellet gun and all you'll do is piss it off

Posted by: Albie Damned at April 08, 2013 11:44 AM (Yhu4q)

440

"Is there a Texan version of Colorado? You know, all the mountains and freedom minus the cray cray?"

Utah. The skiing is better there anyhow.

Posted by: Jaws at April 08, 2013 11:44 AM (4I3Uo)

441

It was a fine line, but, he clearly crossed it.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, FLLDFC Gangstette Wily Wench at April 08, 2013 03:32 PM (kXoT0)

Not for first degree murder and life sentence. Nope , not in my book ever.

Posted by: polynikes at April 08, 2013 11:44 AM (m2CN7)

442 "Tumpt" is the past tense of "tipped," I think.

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 08, 2013 11:44 AM (Iyg03)

443 Is there a Texan version of Colorado? You know, all the mountains and freedom minus the cray cray?

West Texas is mountains.

Posted by: Department of Acuracy at April 08, 2013 03:40 PM (+I8Mq)

You know, I've toyed with the idea of Boulder, CO. Never been there but have heard its a super-hippie town. I reckon its better to have to deal with out-and-out liberalism than with the institutionalized version of it we get in MD (which I think can be described as super Democrat rather than liberal).

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 08, 2013 11:44 AM (UypUQ)

444 73---" Texas is most definitely not southern culture, it's Texan." Posted by: Jake in Texas at April 08, 2013 02:45 PM (FbXPu) -------------------- Many years ago, when I was thinking of taking a job in Dallas, a Virginian explained to me that Texas was different from the rest of the South. How so? "They think they WON the war." There is something of a melancholic, tragic sense of life in traditional areas of the old South. I have never come across quite the same thing in Texans.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 08, 2013 11:45 AM (C8mVl)

445 *the other past tense of "tipped."

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 08, 2013 11:45 AM (Iyg03)

446 And, there's a bar ON campus. And, it's UNT now. The University of North Texas. That was changed from NTSU about 15 - 20 years ago. Yeah. Back when they were thinking about changing the name, I suggested Community University of North Texas. They didn't go for it.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2013 11:45 AM (GFM2b)

447 Fox scream, YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk1mAd77Hr4

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 11:46 AM (aDwsi)

448

As a former resident of California, when the shit does hit the fan and the illegals start their final violent takeover, ima jus sit back and gorge myself on popcoorn

Posted by: Albie Damned at April 08, 2013 11:46 AM (Yhu4q)

449

California is toast. Fork-ready. Diversititty = no more white men; empowrmentz = freedom from gunviolences AND no more white men. We's jus' a nation of lil trevon-wannabes 'roun chere. But... with proper re-education... who knows? (or who knew?)...

When oh when for pitys sake will we be able to move Forward and achieve the dream of any civilized nation - Common-Sense, Universal, Mandatory Sodomy For Teh Childrens!! If We Could Save Just One Life!! Sex Before Age Eight Or Else They Will H8!! And all administered lovingly at the hands of Planned Parenthood's Personal Education Responsibility Program, P.E.R.P. communititty actuhvists. So that for once I may be proud of my country for the first times!! SI SE PUEDE! SI SE PUDENDE!

Posted by: OK, thank you, goodbye, poolside at caligrump's 5150 resort at April 08, 2013 11:47 AM (he33V)

450

All you Yankee pigdogs, imperialist war mongers who are moving to Texas go to Austin. In fact everybody in America go to Austin, Texas NOW!

Posted by: Kim Jong-un at April 08, 2013 11:47 AM (mETGQ)

451

437...Posted by: Blacksheep at April 08, 2013 03:42 PM (8/DeP)

Owls keep the rats and mice populations down.

They really are a blessing.

If there are Owls in your area...it usually means that there is a rodent population.

Or rabbits.

Rabbits and rodents can get overpopulated really fast, in an urban area where other predators have been chased off.

Posted by: wheatie at April 08, 2013 11:48 AM (GwAS0)

452 Yes, and in the video I have seen he was enjoying emptying that clip. His eyes got weird, really weird--Charlie Manson weird.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, FLLDFC Gangstette Wily Wench at April 08, 2013 03:43 PM (kXoT0)

So the guy who beat the worker to death who assaulted his kid gets no billed and rightly cheered on this site, but the pharmacist who just had a shoot out with armed robbers and in the moment continued to shoot one of them who was down gets life? If you think that is fair then we will have to agree to disagree.

Posted by: polynikes at April 08, 2013 11:48 AM (m2CN7)

453 In my house at the lake (Skiatook), we had tons of deer. One evening as I was driving round the next to the last bend before driving up the bluff to where the house sat, I saw about the last 5 or six feet, not counting the tail, of a mountain lion sort of flow into a big old stand of poison sumac. Was talking it over with an old timer who said, "Oh yeah, that lot of yours is where the cougars like to sunbathe before the house got built."

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, FLLDFC Gangstette Wily Wench at April 08, 2013 11:49 AM (kXoT0)

454 West Texas is mountains.

Said no one ever.

West Texas is pretty fucking flat!

Posted by: Roland THTG at April 08, 2013 11:50 AM (QM5S2)

455 Whoa, that's a crazy ass fox scream, Mike Hammer ... I definitely don't need that shit while jogging in the woods. I hit this vid from the rec screen at the end of your link - a laughing fox, also bizarre: http://tinyurl.com/cs736xv

Posted by: Blacksheep at April 08, 2013 11:50 AM (8/DeP)

456 Government employees are lazy everywhere.

I once almost started the Civil War II in the Atlanta airport after putting up with the snail pace everyone operated at.

New Orleans was no better. Neither was central Florida.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 08, 2013 03:38 PM (SY2Kh)

Hey genius, care to guess what those three places have in common.

I grew up in the South. I lived in Maryland and coached guys who were from NY, NJ, PA....you couldn't pay me to live in those fucking hellholes. You're right, there's no comparing the two work ethics.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 08, 2013 11:52 AM (da5Wo)

457 In fact, them Texas sumbigides tried to steal all the way to the Pecos river just so they could have some mountains.

Posted by: Roland THTG at April 08, 2013 11:53 AM (QM5S2)

458 459 Whoa, that's a crazy ass fox scream, Mike Hammer ... I definitely don't need that shit while jogging in the woods.

I hit this vid from the rec screen at the end of your link - a laughing fox, also bizarre:

http://tinyurl.com/cs736xv Posted by: Blacksheep at April 08, 2013 03:50 PM
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Yeah. You ought to have it happen when you are camped out and half asleep in the deep woods. Best to have an empty bladder...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 11:53 AM (aDwsi)

459 I'm quitting PhD most likely, thanks to sequester plus me kind of hating it at the moment, but I can't move away from DC yet. Soon, soon... Got to convince the wife. Austin-area has plenty of tech jobs, I'm sure I could get something.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at April 08, 2013 11:54 AM (xAtAj)

460 tump, verb a combination of "tip" and "dump" I tump, you tump, they tump Past tense : tumpt We also have "gully washers" in Texas

Posted by: NewB at April 08, 2013 11:55 AM (jvg6T)

461

"Hey genius, care to guess what those three places have in common. "

Ooooh! Ooooh! I know! Call on me! [waving hands]

Posted by: Jaws at April 08, 2013 11:55 AM (4I3Uo)

462 TN people that I've seen have a tendency to not give a shit what people think of them. Almost as if they take pride in not giving a shit. Was at a gas station out in the boonies of TN a few years ago, (and BTW - the pumps were still the old mechanical rotating number on the pump) when a truck pulls in next to me with a goat, a goat pen, hay and straw in it like the goat lived full time in the back of the truck, not like it was just being transported. The lady in the truck was probably pushing about 300 pounds. Her 75 pound husband goes in and buys a scratch off lottery ticket and they both sat there scratching the ticket, then left without getting gas. About half way through this little show I thought - these TN people just don't give a fuck about appearances.

Posted by: Whatev at April 08, 2013 11:55 AM (A7Wh1)

463 Many years ago, when I was thinking of taking a job in Dallas, a Virginian explained to me that Texas was different from the rest of the South. How so?
"They think they WON the war."

Well, I wouldn't say that.

But Texas did win the peace. It kept its infrastructure, which the other Southern states didn't. Once Texas was rid of the Reconstruction-era military government and the peacetime dictator EJ Davis, it became a boom area. This even before oil was discovered.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 08, 2013 11:59 AM (QTHTd)

464 This is one of the finest pieces you have posted. Bravo!

Posted by: ceraphym at April 08, 2013 12:00 PM (laC4g)

465 466 TN people that I've seen have a tendency to not give a shit what people think of them. Almost as if they take pride in not giving a shit. Was at a gas station out in the boonies of TN a few years ago, (and BTW - the pumps were still the old mechanical rotating number on the pump) when a truck pulls in next to me with a goat, a goat pen, hay and straw in it like the goat lived full time in the back of the truck, not like it was just being transported. The lady in the truck was probably pushing about 300 pounds. Her 75 pound husband goes in and buys a scratch off lottery ticket and they both sat there scratching the ticket, then left without getting gas. About half way through this little show I thought - these TN people just don't give a fuck about appearances. Posted by: Whatev at April 08, 2013 03:55 PM
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Uh..., kind of a narrow sample there. Ever been to Gary, IN?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 12:01 PM (aDwsi)

466 345 BlueStateRebel, Did he also had you a brush and ask you to whitewash the fence 'cause he didn't know how to good like you? I did not say that I was better than him nor did I even agree with his comment...I had been in TX all of a week. Just reporting what he told me.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at April 08, 2013 12:01 PM (7ObY1)

467 In fact, them Texas sumbigides tried to steal all the way to the Pecos river just so they could have some mountains.

Some of us in CO wish they had . . .

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 08, 2013 12:02 PM (QTHTd)

468 Well, I wouldn't say that.

But Texas did win the peace. It kept its infrastructure, which the other Southern states didn't. Once Texas was rid of the Reconstruction-era military government and the peacetime dictator EJ Davis, it became a boom area. This even before oil was discovered.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 08, 2013 03:59 PM
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NC is only now crawling from beneath the scourge of "reconstruction".

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 12:02 PM (aDwsi)

469 Uh..., kind of a narrow sample there. Ever been to Gary, IN? Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2013 04:01 PM (aDwsi) --- Yes, I make judgements on entire states by the two people I randomly see IN the state. LOL Been through Gary, but I'm not sure if I saw any of it.

Posted by: Whatev at April 08, 2013 12:04 PM (A7Wh1)

470 To all potential transplants:

Yes, the heat is appalling, and I only live in now-blue Va. But it's worth it. Almost everything else is better.

Maggie and Annette on the same day? My wife has no rivals left.

Posted by: George LeS at April 08, 2013 12:07 PM (C4s3i)

471 Hey HoboJerky don't quit the PhD. Credentials always help. You'll look that much better to the McD's manager. I'm struggling with Chapter 2 as we write. I should be writing it instead of being here though....

Posted by: Iblis at April 08, 2013 12:08 PM (9221z)

472 Texas is the future? Dude, TX is THE TARGET. The left has a plan to make TX a swing state, and it starts with immigration reform. Our only alternative is to relocate to where we can be more free? What happens when we can no longer relocate? You know what the alternatives are then don't you?

Posted by: trump at April 08, 2013 12:10 PM (E+RCZ)

473

Speaking of 1974 and Dark Star: That was the name of a movie that came out that year about a long space trip on a ship designed to destroy planets in unstable orbits to ensure future colonization of distant solar systems. A self-aware bomb stuck in the bomb bay and the words "let there be light!" figured prominently at the end.

How fucked is it that in 1974 we had the worst clothes, hair, architecture, and dance music humanly possible and were still thinking the future held distant space travel, and now, 39 years later, we huddle in our Mom's basement clutching our AR-15s, and waiting for the cocksucking government to come take our right to self-defense away?

Pretty fucking fucked, I say. Pretty fucking fucked, indeed.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 08, 2013 12:11 PM (03IDC)

474 C'mon down South! We got hushpuppies, girls in Daisy Dukes, Shiner beer, year-round golf, NASCAR, and every truck maker has a Lone Star Edition pickup truck or three.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 08, 2013 12:12 PM (BAS5M)

475 Hey genius, care to guess what those three places have in common.

They're all in the South?

Don't blame me. I didn't invent the lackadaisical habits of Southerners.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 08, 2013 12:12 PM (SY2Kh)

476 Just spent a few weeks in Texas and would love to move there. If not for my family in PA, I would. The only thing you all need to be wary of are people who come to Texas, claiming they want the freedom, but who in the end, want what they had in the North or California but don't want to pay high taxes. Rural PA has changed over the last 30 years due to the migration of Philly, NY and NJ residents who moved because they wanted the peace and quiet (and relative freedom) that rural PA provided. They then immediately started attempting to change the area to what they had at home - zoning, code enforcement, higher taxes, garbage pickup, expanded government. Rural PA is much worse for the wear thanks to these assholes. What used to be big strongholds in the T now amount to small majorities. My town used to be about 80/20, R to D. Now we are 58/42. I would hate to see Texas fall into the same trouble and turn blue.

Posted by: Paula at April 08, 2013 12:13 PM (ge1dt)

477 478 - My Dad was astonished to see all the Lone Star editions when we were in Texas. Trying to imagine a Keystone State edition. Laughable.

Posted by: Paula at April 08, 2013 12:14 PM (ge1dt)

478 Brilliant and right on point!

As a certified "weirdo," however, I prefer the terms, "individual" or "character" as less judgmental.

But I will never report you for having hurt my feeeeelings, or recognize the authority of any person or group to which you might be reported.

Posted by: Adjoran at April 08, 2013 12:21 PM (9uOra)

479 3 If Texas secedes, I'm going home. This.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at April 08, 2013 12:24 PM (1hM1d)

480

"How fucked is it that in 1974 we had the worst clothes, hair, architecture, and dance music humanly possible and were still thinking the future held distant space travel, and now, 39 years later, we huddle in our Mom's basement clutching our AR-15s, and waiting for the cocksucking government to come take our right to self-defense away?"

Ironically, it's still 1974 here in mom's basement - fake wood paneling, burnt orange shag carpet, puke green pleather chairs. It looks like the Bob Newhart show exploded down here. Smells like it too.

Posted by: Jaws at April 08, 2013 12:25 PM (4I3Uo)

481 Ace... I'm not sure that our respective definitions of "capital-L libertarian" is, but I can assure you that as for myself and the other libertarians I know are concerned, the only threat to Dissidents originates with the statists and other like-minded cock holsters squarely on the left. Period. Just wanted to get that out there.

Posted by: My Sharia Moor at April 08, 2013 12:36 PM (liORJ)

482 Sorry about the shitty syntax. I hate typing on this fucking phone.

Posted by: My Sharia Moor at April 08, 2013 12:39 PM (liORJ)

483

Posted by: jem at April 08, 2013 12:41 PM (7g1yh)

484 Sorry 'bout that. Haven't commented in awhile .

111 So I have a curious question for the Texans amongst us - if one would have their choice of areas to live in (let's say you telecommute), where/what area would you suggest one move to?

Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at April 08, 2013 02:51 PM (YLZSZ)

Stephenville, Glen Rose, Granbury, Cleburne, and/or Hillsboro would be my choice. Close to Dallas, Ft. Worth and Waco.

Posted by: jem at April 08, 2013 12:44 PM (7g1yh)

485 I have a older neighbor that moved here from Massachusetts 10 years ago. He's retired and walks his dogs daily. He stopped several years ago while I was working in my yard and we talked a bit. He had one complaint after another about Texas; no public transportation like back east, too many rednecks who think they need guns, speed limits too high on the highway, etc. I told him to move back if he missed the shithole Massachusetts so much. He said no, he moved here cause of the taxes. But he's voting D every chance he gets...

Posted by: Yip at April 08, 2013 12:46 PM (/jHWN)

486 GOD BLESS TEXAS AND KEEP US FREE !!!!!!!

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at April 08, 2013 12:53 PM (UzQpc)

487 Just remember , first came the lawyers, then came the rules. The 1st thing which happens is your soul is ripped out, the 2nd thing is they teach you how to speak out of both sides of your mouth. Congrats Texas, but it is full tide now where security is more important than liberty

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 08, 2013 12:59 PM (HVff2)

488 After 2 hours of that shit I blurted out "I can't wait to get back North were people have a goddamned work ethic".

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 08, 2013 03:38 PM (SY2Kh)

Yeah, I know what you mean.

After two hours of dealing w/ attitudes like that, I can't wait to send them back North as fast as I can.

Bleass your heart.

Posted by: dDan at April 08, 2013 01:02 PM (q1RJB)

489 Well, Bless your heart, also.

Posted by: dDan at April 08, 2013 01:05 PM (q1RJB)

490 I haven't lived in Oklahoma, so I can't comment on how it is now. They seem to be doing some interesting things to overcome Obamacare though. The biggest difference between Oklahoma and Texas is that Oklahoma is never going to be hip. You won't ever have to worry about all the liberals moving in and taking over the state. I don't know if we are ever going to relocate, but if anything happens to the boyfriend, I'm outta here.

Jeff B, if youwant to move to WA state, you might consider SW WA. We've managed to elect a few conservatives down here and you might feel more at home. Still rains too damn much for me.

Posted by: notsothoreau at April 08, 2013 01:06 PM (Lqy/e)

491 (stupid computer refused to read my mind. I haven't lived in OK for a long time. I do have relatives still in state.)

Posted by: notsothoreau at April 08, 2013 01:13 PM (Lqy/e)

492 North, east, and west are directions. Only the South is a place. C'mon down.

Posted by: Libra at April 08, 2013 01:40 PM (q5QAW)

493 I like bob Newhart, the "bob" drinking game is great!

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 08, 2013 02:00 PM (HVff2)

494

Yall come down and see for yourselves.

If you absolutely must live in a liberal (*spit*) area, you can try Austin (*HAWK**SSPIT!*) for a while.

The only bad thing about all this migration is that they bring the values here that made them flee in the first place.

Posted by: Armed and Texan at April 08, 2013 02:16 PM (geQ1s)

495 Connecticutans?

More like Connecticants.

Posted by: One Word Synopsisizer at April 08, 2013 03:12 PM (eHIJJ)

496 VERY late to this thread (working you know)...relocated from CA to TX 2 1/2 weeks ago (could have gone to CO, but passed...they're getting a bit weird there too...too many Californians). How's it go...got to TX as fast as I could...or something like that...

Posted by: Whiskey_Joe at April 08, 2013 03:26 PM (W/Yy+)

497 The movie business has also moved to the South--GA, Louisiana, Carolina--because they have low taxes, regs, workers comp and no unions. They area also moving to China, because they love the cheap labor. After all, they are Commies at heart! And big Obama supporters, of course, which is not as strange as it may seem. Heh.

My friends in the biz can't figure out where the jobs have gone and why. They are in deep denial.

Posted by: PJ at April 08, 2013 04:00 PM (ZWaLo)

498 Agree with #488, Granbury, Glen Rose area is beautiful, and not far from the DFW metroplex.   Although I think the best place to be is Fort Worth - that place is booming!   Dallas suburbs are ok, but Dallas itself has been going downhill for a while now.

I never cared for Houston much myself, but everyone I know from there loves it, plus that's the best job market in the country right now.

Living in deep East Texas myself, in the piney woods, and very happy to be here.

for those who try to say what Texas is "like", well you can't. Because Fort Worth is different than Dallas is way different than Houston is nothing at all like San Antonio or Lubbock, and then Austin is in it's own world altogether.   Oh and I forgot about El Paso. Most people do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 08, 2013 04:16 PM (UFTmf)

499 Look here, y'all,

Stay outta Austin, or any part of Travis County. If you want to live thereabouts, try Williamson or Bell Counties. Hutto is the fastest growing community in the US. Round Rock, Elgin are good to go. Do not do Bastrop County, sheriff is crooked.
Bryan/College Station great conservative area, Conroe and Montgomery also. San Antone we have to take back, Southside of SA is like being in Mexico. Houston, well, nice to drive thru on the way to Galveston. But do it quickly. Dallas, forget it. Would take Padre and everbody else can go to hell. Love West and the Czech Stop kolaches, Salt Lick at the Dell Diamond and Leon Springs, Rudy's anywhere, Snow's BBQ in Lexington is a religious experience, WHATABURGER, I said WHATABURGER, Fredericksburg German food, Stagecoach Inn at Salado, Pecan Street Station in Pflugerville, Los Barrios and Alamo Cafe in San Antone, Chicken Oil Co. in College Staion, Pappas Seafood in Houston and my Grandma's fried chicken in Hallsburg.

Posted by: Waco Kid at April 08, 2013 04:26 PM (fL9sh)

500

Wish colt would come to N.D.

Hard workers.

Plus we truly have 4 seasons -- ranging from griffin hot and humid with skeeters from hell to being -35 below with 40mph winds.

Keeps the pussies out.

Posted by: exsanguine at April 08, 2013 04:48 PM (MTSwl)

501 "44 Feel free to be weird in Texas, just don't get caught with a doobie or they'll send you in for a 5 year ass pounding."

You know the rules. You decide whether the game's worth playing. Welcome to Grownup Town.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 08, 2013 05:55 PM (qvify)

502 481 478 - My Dad was astonished to see all the Lone Star editions when we were in Texas. Trying to imagine a Keystone State edition. Laughable.

Well, the road-salt-rusted finish just never really took off as a high-end option.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 08, 2013 06:03 PM (qvify)

503 South Carolina born and raised. 22 years military and fortunate enough to have never been stationed further North than Norfolk Virginia (except one unfortunate trip to Chicago in winter). Except for overseas deployments, been South of the Mason-Dixon line forever. East Texas is my home now for almost 18 years and I love it and the people. Only thing I miss is proximity to the Atlantic ocean and it's seafood. Like Travis and Bonham, I will make my stand in Texas.

Posted by: EROWMER at April 08, 2013 06:41 PM (kxlCQ)

504 Texas has been on it's way to becoming the new California for thirty or forty years, at least.

But when I say that, I don't just mean the growing economy and becoming a center for national distribution of resources (including the interweb). I mean the culture. It's been downhill and decay at about the same rate that the State has been rising in economic force, in the direction that has you now thinking of Cali as "dystopian."

This new influx of people from the rest of the country seeking fortune will only accelerate this process. Then the politicians will change and starting with urban centers like Houston/Dallas, Texas will begin to move hard left. First socially, then fiscally.

But go ahead and buy yourself a cowboy hat and big belt buckle and move to Texas. Those things will stay in fashion down there, if only because it's so popular in the homosexual community.

Posted by: Crimson Mask at April 09, 2013 03:40 AM (rzhak)

505 And gradually all the arms businesses will migrate to the Red States and then the Red States will secede and the Blue States will lack the armament to take them back and the knowledge to rebuild their own arms industries... (Remembering that without ongoing logistical and technical support, a sophisticated modern aircraft loaded with bombs and missiles is a one-shot deal.) There's a Californian chap I've seen on YouTube who's a self-proclaimed Liberal and a strong 2nd-amendment supporter (also a sporting shooter, so his money's where his mouth is). His claim IIRC is that he sees as many environmental lefty types as stereotypic right-wingers at some of the 2A rallies he goes to, but the media never report this fact. The situation may not be as bleak as you think it. You may have friends on the other side of the divide and not know it.

Posted by: perturbed at April 09, 2013 04:25 AM (u6Ueb)

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