March 25, 2013
— Ace via @lachlan, the shape of things to come to America, and soon.
Customs officials said border guards at the counrtry’s air and sea ports have been instructed to check baggage and monitor whether travelers are taking more than €10,000 (about $13,000) out of the country. Any amount above that €10,000 threshold can be confiscated.
And it is coming to America. Have no doubt.
What I find most interesting about this story are the repeated assurances - often delivered with a sneer at doomsday prepper hysteria - that nothing of the sort could ever happen in the United States. But every article pooh-poohing the "hysterics" mentions something our government is doing, or has done, that echoes the crisis in Cyprus. They talked about raiding pension funds and stuffing them with government I.O.U.s; American liberals are salivating at the thought of doing the same to our 401k accounts....It all boils down to governments making promises they can't keep... and insisting those promises are still valid, long past the point of no return, unto the point of systemic collapse.
At some point debts must be paid, and ugly debts results in ugly solutions. No one, I don't think, really imagined France would simply seize all of the property owned by the Catholic church to pay its debts in 1792... until they did.
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Posted by: Brass at March 25, 2013 10:18 AM (v/Ofr)
Where did you get that sweet black helicopter, Ace?
Posted by: Jaws at March 25, 2013 10:19 AM (4I3Uo)
Mark my words.
Posted by: Scanner Dan at March 25, 2013 10:20 AM (h5CN9)
Posted by: xbradtc at March 25, 2013 10:20 AM (O0L6N)
Posted by: Vic at March 25, 2013 10:20 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Quint at March 25, 2013 10:20 AM (KHo8t)
Posted by: mare at March 25, 2013 10:21 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 25, 2013 10:21 AM (tqLft)
Posted by: Vic at March 25, 2013 10:22 AM (53z96)
Posted by: toby928© sips the sweet tea of despair at March 25, 2013 10:22 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: MJ at March 25, 2013 10:22 AM (vl5mg)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 25, 2013 10:22 AM (tqLft)
Posted by: Quint at March 25, 2013 10:22 AM (KHo8t)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 25, 2013 10:23 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Scanner Dan at March 25, 2013 10:23 AM (h5CN9)
Posted by: toby928© sips the sweet tea of despair at March 25, 2013 10:23 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 25, 2013 10:24 AM (tqLft)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 25, 2013 10:24 AM (9Bj8R)
9 After everything we've witnessed in the last 5 years, is anything out of the question?
Nope...at this point, nothing would surprise me.
And yet, there are still those who say..."Oh they would never do that. That's just crazy conspiracy talk."
Posted by: wheatie at March 25, 2013 10:24 AM (UMBJ2)
Posted by: Vic at March 25, 2013 10:25 AM (53z96)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 25, 2013 10:25 AM (tqLft)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 25, 2013 10:25 AM (NzBQO)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 25, 2013 10:25 AM (4OvDk)
Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2013 10:25 AM (zoehZ)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 25, 2013 10:25 AM (UCv7P)
Posted by: mare at March 25, 2013 10:25 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Roy at March 25, 2013 10:26 AM (VndSC)
Btw, I'll say it again here, I am deeply convinced that this Cyprus shit is the black swan set flight.
It is the beginning of the end for the Eurozone, and we are about to see some crazy crazy shit start popping up.
All they can do is print print print, or else people will start going hungry. and when people go hungry and there is no medicine, then shit really hits the fan.
already starting in Greece, where Golden Dawn is growing more popular by the minute.
Posted by: Prescient11 at March 25, 2013 10:26 AM (tVTLU)
"change"
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 10:26 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 25, 2013 10:26 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts, Still Growing In Office at March 25, 2013 10:26 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 25, 2013 10:26 AM (+lsX1)
Vic,
It's worse than that. They have lowered the amount to $3k, and it includes transfers such as paying bills...
Posted by: Prescient11 at March 25, 2013 10:27 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 25, 2013 10:27 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Naqamel at March 25, 2013 10:27 AM (UMwMT)
Posted by: Mr. Pink aka a man without a political party at March 25, 2013 10:27 AM (++kZl)
Posted by: Prescient11 at March 25, 2013 02:26 PM (tVTLU)
I quietly see a Russian, Greek, Italian axis growing.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 25, 2013 10:28 AM (NzBQO)
Posted by: maddogg at March 25, 2013 10:28 AM (OlN4e)
And if you do, they'll do you like they did that guy a while back and call you a drug mule or something and seize it.
So yeah, good times are a' comin'!!!
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 25, 2013 10:28 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 25, 2013 10:28 AM (e0xKF)
I'd wager that first California and Michigan will institue an exit tax to anyone who has the gall to want to flee their states.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 25, 2013 02:21 PM (tqLft)
They're way ahead of you. My beloved Clownifornia floated a trial balloon on that a few years ago.
http://tinyurl.com/a7k79oa
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 25, 2013 10:28 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at March 25, 2013 10:29 AM (71LDo)
Posted by: perturbed at March 25, 2013 10:29 AM (u6Ueb)
Posted by: Roy at March 25, 2013 10:29 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Mr. Pink aka a man without a political party at March 25, 2013 10:30 AM (++kZl)
Posted by: Ghostly Aspiration at March 25, 2013 10:31 AM (2U4NN)
Posted by: maddogg at March 25, 2013 10:31 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: TehAdmiral at March 25, 2013 10:31 AM (xe8yS)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at March 25, 2013 10:31 AM (71LDo)
Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 10:32 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 25, 2013 10:32 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Eminent Domain at March 25, 2013 10:32 AM (9Bj8R)
Personally, I like Putin. Not that I agree with the way they govern over there, but he's a cool guy.
Posted by: RiverC at March 25, 2013 10:33 AM (KTytI)
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 10:33 AM (xIzGn)
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Worse, they'll call it a retroactive income tax.
Lest you forget: The last few tax bills had retroactive provisions in them. That is, "oh sure, we didn't pass them until April but it's effective date is January 1."
And who can forget Clinton's retroactive fuel excise tax that went back like 2 years?
Yeah, we've already the machinery in place to do away with the troubling "no ex post facto laws" thing our Founders thought was needed.
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 25, 2013 10:33 AM (VjL9S)
Wrong.
Are you sure about that GEH?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/axyeevy
Posted by: bonhomme at March 25, 2013 10:33 AM (92y8U)
Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2013 10:33 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Brass at March 25, 2013 10:33 AM (v/Ofr)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 25, 2013 02:26 PM (+lsX1) :::
Really. And where do you have them "stashed." What can you buy with them, besides online heroin?
Can I use them to buy gas? Can I walk into a gun store with my printed out Bitcoins and buy an AR?
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 25, 2013 10:33 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at March 25, 2013 10:34 AM (DGIjM)
wasn't germany , russia, italy quite enlightened* prior to its reign of terror across Europe?
Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 10:34 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Eminent Domain
Still true. The definition of "private" is under review.
Posted by: Roy at March 25, 2013 10:34 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 25, 2013 10:34 AM (9Bj8R)
@37: "Another advantage of Bitcoin over gold - no border patrol or customs agents finger fucking your stash."
Probably tougher to bribe an official with bitcoins, though. Gold's greatest utility is that it is an excellent tool for payoffs.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at March 25, 2013 10:34 AM (FsqHK)
63: yes it's $3k now, see my post to Vic.
50: you're just plain wrong. zerohedge had a big piece on this. just google bitcoin and fed regulation.
Posted by: Prescient11 at March 25, 2013 10:34 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at March 25, 2013 10:35 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 25, 2013 02:33 PM (CJjw5)
Yes.... come to Crazy Achmeds Online Gun Store, for all your Virtual Weapon Needs!
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 25, 2013 10:35 AM (lZBBB)
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Wrong. It's a hell of a lot less, that I do know.
I've heard $3k to $500.
There's been a lot of shit hidden in these "financial reform" bills.
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 25, 2013 10:35 AM (VjL9S)
"They wanted gold, but he gave them lead instead."
Lock and load, friends.
Posted by: Dang at March 25, 2013 10:35 AM (R18D0)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 25, 2013 10:35 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 25, 2013 10:35 AM (pyxdm)
Posted by: nameless at March 25, 2013 10:35 AM (C7igR)
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 10:36 AM (DlaLh)
Posted by: ejo at March 25, 2013 10:36 AM (GXvSO)
So it will be met with a big 'meh, they deserve it' by most Americans.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at March 25, 2013 02:34 PM (DGIjM)
It's pretty horrid when envy of fellow citizens is than used by agitators to retain power or gain power.
Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 10:36 AM (nqBYe)
GOP rep. from Missouri introduced legislation preventing what happened in Cyprus from occurring here.
Wonder what has happened with this bill and whether the fucking GOP was smart enough to all sign on.
Or I guess the GOP leadership might "trust" zero too much.
Posted by: Prescient11 at March 25, 2013 10:37 AM (tVTLU)
I don't think the people would stand for the government taking 40% of their pension funds. I think there would be some dead politicians.
They're replace them with government IOUs that are "secure" and thus "the same as cash".
Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 25, 2013 10:37 AM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Winston Churchill and Adolf Hitler, sharing a High Five at March 25, 2013 10:37 AM (FsqHK)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 25, 2013 10:37 AM (4OvDk)
Posted by: nameless at March 25, 2013 02:35 PM (C7igR)
Merde! Zat is nothing!
Posted by: Knight Templers, Saturday the 14th at March 25, 2013 10:37 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at March 25, 2013 10:37 AM (DGIjM)
Bitcoin is currently being investigated for "money laundering"
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 10:38 AM (/gHaE)
86:
hahahahahaha. Necessary turn in all events. It may be the only cycle that can save certain euro countries. who knows.
Posted by: Prescient11 at March 25, 2013 10:38 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 25, 2013 10:38 AM (Sptt8)
I told you earlier, *we* *are* the SMOD.....
only species that can pull the trigger by choice and we will....
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 10:39 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Prescient11 at March 25, 2013 10:39 AM (tVTLU)
Can you walk into a gun store and buy an AR with Euros or a handful of Yen?
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 25, 2013 10:39 AM (+lsX1)
>>>>What I find most interesting about this story are the repeated assurances
Oh yeah, this is the most damning part of it all. Selco talked about how politicians were saying everything was fine in the Balkans even as they took planes out the night before the collapse and civil wars started there.
Posted by: Bigby's Strong Arm Tactics at March 25, 2013 10:40 AM (3ZtZW)
PurpAv:
This. I had said this earlier. Also, many foreign banks will not accept Americans as customers, due to the gestapo tactics of the DOJ and IRS.
Being American used to mean many doors were opened and they were happy for your business. Not so much anymore.
Thanks President Food Stamp! Thanks Patriot Act!
Posted by: Prescient11 at March 25, 2013 10:40 AM (tVTLU)
And again, not one mention of the Solution: Free Market Capitalism. It's All Gubmint, All the Time.
It's almost like politicians don't understand economics.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 25, 2013 10:40 AM (+z4pE)
Y'all think this is bad, just wait...
Posted by: The Zombie Apocalypse at March 25, 2013 10:41 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: JohnIscariotRoberts at March 25, 2013 10:41 AM (7ObY1)
Oh yeah, this is the most damning part of it all. Selco talked about how politicians were saying everything was fine in the Balkans even as they took planes out the night before the collapse and civil wars started there.
Posted by: Bigby's Strong Arm Tactics at March 25, 2013 02:40 PM (3ZtZW)
Oh i imagine also a lot of pocket stuffing was going on with them
Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 10:41 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 25, 2013 10:42 AM (4OvDk)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 25, 2013 02:40 PM (+z4pE)
or they don't care , they are all now citizens of the world?
that world being wherever They all land after hell comes for us little folks?
Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 10:43 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 25, 2013 10:43 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 25, 2013 10:43 AM (9Bj8R)
Who are they investigating? That's like saying, "gold is currently being investigated for money laundering." There's no central authority, so good luck with the investigation.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 25, 2013 10:43 AM (+lsX1)
Posted by: ejo at March 25, 2013 10:43 AM (GXvSO)
Krugman's "Smoot-Hawley Moment"
http://tinyurl.com/asfdyyj
The truth, hard as it may be for ideologues to accept, is that unrestricted movement of capital is looking more and more like a failed experiment.
You know, because like Supergenius Enron Adviser and Big Government Buttboy Krugman, Government knows best for you, comrades
Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2013 10:43 AM (mCvL4)
The wife gives me some strange looks when I bring home a can of Spam and a box of .45 cal. "You don't even own a .45." I explain as follows: "I thought a lot of things were impossible, would never happen. Well some have happened and others have moved from impossible to improbable. Now the improbable are becoming unlikely and a few seem on the fast road to likely." Plus .45s will likely be the new quarter. On the black market.
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at March 25, 2013 10:43 AM (qwK3S)
:::Can you walk into a gun store and buy an AR with Euros or a handful of Yen? :::
Absolutely. Right after I stop by my bank and trade them for USD, which they do. What they will NOT do is accept Bitcoins.
This is like Titty Bar Bux - you can only use them to tip strippers, or trade them to some guy who really wants to tip strippers.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 25, 2013 10:44 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2013 10:44 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at March 25, 2013 10:44 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: madamex at March 25, 2013 10:44 AM (+kvQd)
Good luck with that.
In other words, you already can't go around with large amounts of cash, anywhere.
Posted by: cranky-d at March 25, 2013 10:44 AM (Wmto6)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 25, 2013 10:45 AM (FsUAO)
Plan B:
Start my own new religious order/commune.
Combine some sort of Amish and Muslim bits so as to be left alone?
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 25, 2013 02:38 PM (Sptt
Hmmmm..... Sons of Liberty.... with the Decleration of Independence, and Constitution as our Holy Writ.... Reverence for the Founders (kinda like Shinto Ancestor Worship, or Catholic Saints).... and of course... its a Holy Duty to belong and train in the Militia...
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 25, 2013 10:45 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Aarun run run A-doo run run at March 25, 2013 10:45 AM (r4v64)
Posted by: mare at March 25, 2013 10:45 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 25, 2013 10:46 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Neil Diamond, cash smuggler from and in uncomfortable places at March 25, 2013 10:46 AM (qM5uD)
@106: "That border guard won't be interested in your gold, he'll be interested in your stuff."
The border guard won't necessarily be, no. The officers who command the border guards, and the politicians who issue exit visas? They'll be rather more pliable.
Posted by: Winston Churchill and Adolf Hitler, sharing a High Five at March 25, 2013 10:46 AM (FsqHK)
Posted by: Vic at March 25, 2013 02:25 PM (53z96)<<
Only if you are dealing with cash. They do not report checks or electronic transfers.
Posted by: Muad'dib at March 25, 2013 10:46 AM (KjlbF)
Posted by: Alfred E Gore [/i] at March 25, 2013 10:46 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at March 25, 2013 10:47 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Baracka Hussein at March 25, 2013 10:47 AM (FsUAO)
The truth, hard as it may be for ideologues to accept, is that unrestricted movement of capital is looking more and more like a failed experiment.
Stupidity is painful. That statement made my headmeat all hurty.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 25, 2013 10:47 AM (+z4pE)
So their being rich makes them, by definition, greedy.
Very interesting.
I guess by using your logic that fact that you eat when you get hungry means you are fat.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 25, 2013 10:47 AM (sbV1u)
Cut, jib, newsletter....
we need to buy about three counties worth of land somewhere and make "gain" a sacrament....
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 10:47 AM (LRFds)
The real question will be how these confiscations will impact married ghey couples' assets.
Posted by: Jaws at March 25, 2013 10:48 AM (4I3Uo)
Your bank may not, but plenty of individuals will happily give you cash for bitcoin. In fact, these buyers are in your local area and make themselves pretty easy to find (localbitcoins.com).
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 25, 2013 10:48 AM (+lsX1)
give two hot
fucks when greedy rich people are forced to do give up a little bit of their stolen wealth.
Posted by Aaurunat March 25, 2013 02:45 PM (r4v64)
Perhaps this isn't the site for you.
I believe most of us consider that using the power of the state to steal from those you don't particularly like?
advocating theft?
Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 10:48 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Vic at March 25, 2013 10:49 AM (53z96)
You magnificent bastard!!
I read your book!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 25, 2013 10:49 AM (sbV1u)
they've been spending it on hookers, booze, and Yachts since inception bud...you're pretty spry for ~83 years old...
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 10:49 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: toby928© sips the sweet tea of despair at March 25, 2013 10:49 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2013 10:49 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 25, 2013 10:49 AM (4OvDk)
Between covering up past crimes and covering up current crimes, it's no wonder they can't come up with a working budget.
Oh, and "civil forfeiture without charges" if it hasn't been mentioned. If you haven't been screwed yet, consider yourself lucky.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at March 25, 2013 02:47 PM (bxiXv)
uh hmm, I'm also feeling we have very few adovocates on our side in power.
Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 10:50 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Baracka Hussein at March 25, 2013 10:50 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 10:50 AM (I2LwF)
"Who are they investigating? That's like saying, "gold is currently being investigated for money laundering." There's no central authority, so good luck with the investigation."
OK, someone needs to take the time to explain Bitcoins. Slowly. In small words.
Posted by: jwest at March 25, 2013 10:51 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Famous squaw sayings at March 25, 2013 10:51 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at March 25, 2013 10:51 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Aarun run run A-doo run run at March 25, 2013 10:52 AM (r4v64)
Posted by: RWC at March 25, 2013 10:52 AM (fWAjv)
And....hypothetically speaking of course...where would one find such a store? Hypothetically.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 25, 2013 10:52 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Vic at March 25, 2013 10:52 AM (53z96)
Girls, maybe. Because shiny!!1!.
Grown women should probably look into how expensive diamonds actually are (that would be, "not much", because people can make 'em). They're no safeguard for currency collapse.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 25, 2013 10:52 AM (QTHTd)
Posted by: things you don't hear much anymore at March 25, 2013 10:53 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 10:53 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at March 25, 2013 10:53 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Baracka Hussein at March 25, 2013 10:53 AM (FsUAO)
I'd wager that first California and Michigan will institue an exit tax to anyone who has the gall to want to flee their states.
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Cool, i can earn money going both ways
Posted by: Mexican coyote at March 25, 2013 10:53 AM (SO2Q8)
First!
Posted by: zombie henry viii at March 25, 2013 10:53 AM (VwC86)
Coming soon!!!
Posted by: president o'bumbles at March 25, 2013 10:54 AM (VwC86)
Posted by: Aarun run run A-doo run run at March 25, 2013 10:54 AM (r4v64)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 25, 2013 10:54 AM (FsUAO)
I'm working on it.
Posted by: Cyber George Soros at March 25, 2013 10:54 AM (sbV1u)
It's a meaningless House Resolution. Not even a bill.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at March 25, 2013 10:55 AM (opLk0)
Hmm...let's see, which is easier to buy right now? ....Gold or Ammo?
I'm thinking that Ammo will be a better 'doomsday currency' than Gold.
Posted by: wheatie at March 25, 2013 10:55 AM (UMBJ2)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 25, 2013 10:55 AM (T0NGe)
Bitcoin is currently being investigated for "money laundering"
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 02:38 PM
But not HSBC. I guess when you don't launder for the likes of Soros, Arab sheiks, and large drug cartels and bought politicians, you're a "money launderer"
Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2013 10:55 AM (mCvL4)
I will so do.
Allegedly.
Posted by: Cyber George Soros at March 25, 2013 10:55 AM (sbV1u)
:::Your bank may not, but plenty of individuals will happily give you cash for bitcoin. In fact, these buyers are in your local area and make themselves pretty easy to find (localbitcoins.com).:::
How about tulip bulbs? Can I trade tulip bulbs for Bitcoins? Because I would be down for that.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 25, 2013 10:55 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 25, 2013 10:55 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 25, 2013 10:55 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: RWC at March 25, 2013 10:55 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 25, 2013 10:56 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 25, 2013 10:56 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 25, 2013 02:21 PM (tqLft)
Didn't they create a retroactive tax in Cal recently?
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at March 25, 2013 10:56 AM (AWmfW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 25, 2013 10:56 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at March 25, 2013 10:57 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 25, 2013 10:57 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at March 25, 2013 10:57 AM (gh4OI)
Posted by: Rory at March 25, 2013 10:57 AM (IL9gH)
Until they stop.
Because.....human nature.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 25, 2013 10:58 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 25, 2013 10:58 AM (9Bj8R)
Yes!
Posted by: Your Informative Media at March 25, 2013 02:57 PM (BrQrN)
maybe!
Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 10:58 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 25, 2013 10:58 AM (4OvDk)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at March 25, 2013 02:57 PM (gh4OI)<<
Sadly, you just nailed it.
Posted by: Muad'dib at March 25, 2013 10:58 AM (KjlbF)
Just call it a "tax" and say it's "for the children".
Posted by: Marcus at March 25, 2013 10:58 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: bonhomme at March 25, 2013 10:58 AM (92y8U)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at March 25, 2013 10:58 AM (VtjlW)
I'm up for some Titbits!
Timbits...not so much.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 25, 2013 10:58 AM (sbV1u)
I'd wager that first California and Michigan will institue an exit tax to anyone who has the gall to want to flee their states.
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On the bright side, we'll finally have secure borders. Just like any other prison
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 25, 2013 10:59 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 25, 2013 10:59 AM (FsUAO)
Where is the Pubbie who has the common sense to do as Insty suggests and introduce legislation that will make a Cyprus-like (or any other type) confiscation illegal here?
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 25, 2013 10:59 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 25, 2013 11:00 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 25, 2013 11:00 AM (QxSug)
Democrats have told three generations of people that any wealth their neighbor has is essentially stolen. At some point, the government will be unable politically or logistically to take money from the haves and give it to the have-nots. At that point, the have-nots will cut out the middlman, and come to your house to reclaim 'their' stuff in person.
Be prepared.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 25, 2013 11:00 AM (qx7YW)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at March 25, 2013 02:57 PM (gh4OI)
Actually that is not only funny but pretty accurate!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 25, 2013 02:58 PM (9Bj8R)
that thought is pretty depressing isn't it?
If only his couple of other things weren't so nuts.
Maybe Rand has filtered some of this and kept the worst bits out?
Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 11:00 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Empire1 at March 25, 2013 11:01 AM (KudS2)
Shipment of cookies for you ma'am. Where would you like them?
Posted by: Muad'dib at March 25, 2013 11:01 AM (KjlbF)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at March 25, 2013 11:01 AM (VtjlW)
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You mean other than Michelle having a staycation?
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 25, 2013 11:01 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: RWC at March 25, 2013 11:01 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at March 25, 2013 11:02 AM (bxiXv)
Timbits...not so much.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 25, 2013 02:58 PM (sbV1u)
if i have to live through a collapse it sucks that now i'm past the expiration date to Use my bits !
Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 11:02 AM (nqBYe)
I know. That's where I was going with that.
Bitcoin advocates like to think that they're more virtuous because of their closed society. But humans are generally rational maximizers, and the minute the folks at the top of the Bitcoin pile think there is an advantage to be gained, that's when everything goes to shit.
But because it's all electronic....it will go to shit in hyper-speed.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 25, 2013 11:02 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2013 11:02 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at March 25, 2013 11:02 AM (VtjlW)
Oh, I dunno.
Post some pics of your bits. The Horde will be happy to give you an appraisal.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 25, 2013 11:03 AM (sbV1u)
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We should ahve explained it to the progressives as being like the Berlin Wall. Then we could have had a border fence.
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 25, 2013 11:03 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 25, 2013 11:03 AM (GVxQo)
Cochrane is sleeping on that pallet. Don't want to wake him. He is having a bad day.
Posted by: Muad'dib at March 25, 2013 11:03 AM (KjlbF)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 25, 2013 11:04 AM (FsUAO)
213After everything we've witnessed in the last 5 years, is anything out of the question?
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a bunch of that stuff in the constitution apparently.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 25, 2013 11:04 AM (SO2Q8)
As we reported earlier this morning, a new profile of MSNBC chief Phil Griffin in The New Republic reveals plenty of fascinating details from inside the network, namely some information on the internal Keith Olbermann feud, and the origins of Rachel Maddow.
But from a media business perspective, one particularly interesting detail of the piece is when author Rebecca Dana reveals that Griffin “optimistically” expects to beat first-place rival Fox News within the next year.
“MSNBC is more successful now than it has ever been,” Dana wrote. “At the end of this presidential election, it drew an average of 1.5 million viewers to its weekday prime time lineup. (The numbers have fallen since.) Fox still gets more than two million a night, but Griffin, optimistically, believes he can beat Fox by 2014.”
“It’s a cockiness that has funneled down,” she added. “In a recent staff meeting, one of Griffin’s producers coined a new term for Fox News: ‘Loserville.’”
... 20 months to find out who is the real ‘Loserville.’
Posted by: Rule #2a at March 25, 2013 11:05 AM (e8kgV)
Syria, Russia, Cyprus: If the Russians lose their port in Syria then they would look to Cyprus. Merkel takes Cyprus money, pissing off Russians, who have a lot of money therre. (And it is not all mob, since Russian businesses use deposits in Cyprus to pay for goods from Europe, since Russia isn't on the Euro).
Gay marriage, confiscation of money: If gay marriage is passed, it is only a matter of tie until the Catholic Church is forced to either perform gay marriages (not gonna happen) or have their property confiscated. I thought it odd that Joe Biden was at Palm Sunday mass at St. Patrick's in New York, instead of DC or his home parish in Delaware. Maybe he was doing a preliminary assessment of value.
You know what I think we are looking at? War. War in Europe and the Middle East.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 25, 2013 11:05 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 25, 2013 11:05 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 02:32 PM (nqBYe)
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I know. And to think. Everyone was hooting and laughing at Beck four to five years ago. I listened to him then and I listen to him now. I took much of his advice and am much better off for it.
Posted by: Soona at March 25, 2013 11:05 AM (P4MEQ)
Posted by: Empire1 at March 25, 2013 03:01 PM (KudS2)
But of course.... but one precept must be that voting is a Privelege... not a RIGHT... so....
No Representation Without Taxation!
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 25, 2013 11:05 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 11:05 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 25, 2013 11:05 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at March 25, 2013 11:05 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Cypress Border Guards at March 25, 2013 11:06 AM (4cRnj)
Posted by: Miss Marple
The ironic thing is that Germany will likely be the last country on the continent to join in this one.
Posted by: Roy at March 25, 2013 11:07 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 25, 2013 11:07 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 25, 2013 11:07 AM (+z4pE)
Gay marriage, confiscation of money.
The achievement of the goals of those who lust for power is never self-supported nor self-funded
Posted by: T.Hunter - Living in the Burning Time at March 25, 2013 11:08 AM (EZl54)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 25, 2013 11:08 AM (wLY+G)
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 25, 2013 03:05 PM (GoIUi)
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Good. It'll keep them busy while we have our own armed "correction".
Posted by: Soona at March 25, 2013 11:08 AM (P4MEQ)
LOL!!
Posted by: Germany at March 25, 2013 11:08 AM (4cRnj)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 11:09 AM (bb5+k)
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I hope you aren't considering quitting your day job and taking up thinking full time. Oh, what am I saying? Of course you haven't got a day job!
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 25, 2013 11:09 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at March 25, 2013 11:09 AM (bxiXv)
I don't think the people would stand for the government taking 40% of their pension funds. I think there would be some dead politicians.
Posted by: Vic at March 25, 2013 02:20 PM (53z96)
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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I would be a better thing if it were 10%
hell, 1%
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 25, 2013 11:09 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Jay Carney's Teleprompter Gold, now available on CD and 401k at March 25, 2013 11:10 AM (bGlsD)
In Britain after WWII, the rule was that you couldn't take 5 pounds in notes out of the country if you were going abroad. You could take traveller's cheques, but the actual pound sterling currency was required to remain IN the country. That was to help keep the money in the country during the rebuilding process after the war.
http://archive.org/details/a_warning_to_travellers_TNA
Multiply that times a shit-ton of stupid fiscal policies and you've got modern day confiscatory Cyprus. Instead of rebuilding after a devastating war, they're trying to stay afloat after decades of bone stupid fiscal policy. And instead of allowing individuals to keep their money while requiring them to spend it in the country (whatever your views on that may be), they're TAKING the money outright.
That can't possibly go wrong.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 25, 2013 11:10 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 11:10 AM (bb5+k)
0r we have the dems using copercion to slippery sliding greedy fingers into your pockets ,
for the children.
and for wagu beef at lunch for their mom and dad.
Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 11:11 AM (nqBYe)
Or just order the routers to swallow the traffic, then poof, all that money simply becomes worthless.
At least you can burn paper dollars for fuel, or stuff the walls with them for insulation.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 11:11 AM (/gHaE)
You know what I think we are looking at? War. War in Europe and the Middle East.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 25, 2013 03:05 PM (GoIUi)
And the Big question... is when it happens, how much of the Mid East does Israel take over THIS time?
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 25, 2013 11:12 AM (lZBBB)
at the top = people who have already managed to find a flaw in the system.
I am sure there are a few. There is a George Soros of Bitcoin, we just don't know who he is yet. All systems have flaws that can be exploited.
Ultimately any failure of a fiat system is sociological. Economics is nothing more than the psychology of money. We all agree on the general rules, but when we think someone is getting an unfair advantage, the system becomes unstable. All human systems work this way.
I just don't see Bitcoin as immune to sociological pressures, that's all.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 25, 2013 11:12 AM (sbV1u)
I don't think you really understand how it works. There are no folks at the top of the Bitcoin pile. It's not based on trust. It's based on cryptography and math. It's self regulated by hundreds of thousands of computers distributed across the globe.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 25, 2013 11:12 AM (+lsX1)
Posted by: Hurricano at March 25, 2013 11:12 AM (HoxZS)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 25, 2013 11:12 AM (mUtZB)
Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at March 25, 2013 11:12 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: RWC at March 25, 2013 11:12 AM (fWAjv)
All of us down at the Brattleboro WomanÂ’s Reproductive and Pregnancy Decision Center think that Presdent obama should send Secrertary of the State, John Karry, to this Cyprus place to help fix the problem created by Bush and Tony Blare Guy from England. Eurpoe was in grate shape until Bush and now Pressdent Obama has to fix this problem too. Bush lied to Europe and they belived him and now they our feeling the pane of his lyes. We hate Bush and call on presdent Oblama to arrest him and put him on trial.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at March 25, 2013 11:13 AM (IkHXL)
'zactly
I am nothing if not unoriginal.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 25, 2013 11:13 AM (sbV1u)
Punitive levels of property tax. Pay up, or we take your shit at tax auction.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 11:13 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2013 11:14 AM (GFM2b)
In assessing this situation with the Russians the writer pointed out that while we see Merkel as sort of a dumpy housewife, the Russians see her as a Panzer commander. They have not forgotten, you know.
Also, the writer said that Putin has reinstituted the alliance between the Russian government and the orthodox church, by passing some socially conservative laws (not gay marriage, by the way) and is ruling more like the czars. He's a Russian nationalist (which seems obvious to me but apparently Hillary and Obama didn't get that).
The church in Cyprus is Orthodox, and there are many Russians living there.
This is going to be a giant and dangerous mess.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 25, 2013 11:14 AM (GoIUi)
After doing extensive research on Bitcoins, to include Googling it, I've come to the decision that I don't want my money in Bitcoins when the shit hits the fan.
Posted by: jwest at March 25, 2013 11:14 AM (u2a4R)
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And I'm thinking your freedoms should be infringed to the extent of a barred room about eight by ten feet.
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 25, 2013 11:14 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 25, 2013 11:14 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 03:13 PM (/gHaE)<<
I thought exactly the same thing - they would call it a "special assessment". I though the Kelo answer was good too.
Posted by: Muad'dib at March 25, 2013 11:14 AM (KjlbF)
Vic, they won't "take" the pensions and 401K's, they will "manage" them. You will get an IOU and everything, dontchaknow?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2013 11:14 AM (IY7Ir)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 25, 2013 11:14 AM (mUtZB)
Don't forget the Pacific Rim. The muzz are feeling frisky in Indonesia and parts of SE Asia. India and the Pakis truly deeply and passionately hate each other. And sooner or later the Japanese are going to get tired of a psychotic Nork neighbor and Chinese saber rattling and just say "Fuck it, we need a bomb."
On the plus side, I fully expect a Japanese nuke to produce a giant Hello Kitty shaped cloud instead of a mushroom. So we got that to look forward to.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at March 25, 2013 11:16 AM (gh4OI)
The "trust" is that you can continue to talk to those computers. That's a lotta trust IMO.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 11:16 AM (/gHaE)
I don't think the people would stand for the government taking 40% of their pension funds. I think there would be some dead politicians.
Posted by: Vic at March 25, 2013 02:20 PM (53z96)
"You say that like it's a bad thing. "
Meh. John Q. Public won't do jack shit. He'll gladly be a slave as long as the Massa allows him access to satellite TV and the ability to stick his/her genetalia into or on top of whatever he/she wants. Besides, all the bruhaha over dead pols will result in Special Reports that'll cut into American Idol. Unacceptable!
Posted by: Jaws at March 25, 2013 11:16 AM (4I3Uo)
All systems have flaws that can be exploited.
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Maybe that was true in the past, but now is the future. Forward!
Posted by: ObamaCARE at March 25, 2013 11:16 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2013 11:17 AM (GFM2b)
Punitive levels of property tax. Pay up, or we take your shit at tax auction.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 03:13 PM (/gHaE)
Easier? Is that a Puddle I see on that property? Then it is Wetlands, and you must now cede that to our control....
Posted by: EPA/Dept of Int. at March 25, 2013 11:17 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: UncleZeb at March 25, 2013 03:10 PM (Nvirt)
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Hold my beer........watch this.
Posted by: The Fed at March 25, 2013 11:17 AM (P4MEQ)
On the plus side, I fully expect a Japanese nuke to produce a giant Hello Kitty shaped cloud instead of a mushroom. So we got that to look forward to
Strangely enough, that does make my glass seem more half full than half empty.
Time for a refill!
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at March 25, 2013 11:17 AM (BrQrN)
Ultimately any failure of a fiat system is sociological. Economics is nothing more than the psychology of money. We all agree on the general rules, but when we think someone is getting an unfair advantage, the system becomes unstable. All human systems work this way.
Not to disagree with your premise, but there's another way to sabotage any financial system. We've been seeing it for years.
Governmental Regulation. What kind of regulation doesn't really matter, it could be under the guise of environmentalism as implemented through a too-powerful EPA. The economy is restricted just the same.
And those who are most responsible for the government meddling in the private market are typically the first to state (falsely) that "capitalism doesn't work."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 25, 2013 11:17 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 25, 2013 11:17 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Aldous Huxley at March 25, 2013 11:17 AM (zKyAE)
Yeah, that will work. Don't see why not...
Posted by: Ponzi at March 25, 2013 11:18 AM (71LDo)
Go big or go home.
Shoot the moon. Go for broke. Take. It. All.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2013 03:17 PM (GFM2b)
Take it.... and level it maybe... but Israel does not have enough population to Occupy it....
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 25, 2013 11:18 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 25, 2013 11:18 AM (Cnqmv)
I fully expect a Japanese nuke to produce a giant Hello Kitty shaped cloud instead of a mushroom. So we got that to look forward to.
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Just imagine the possibilities of nuclear powered Japanese pron
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 25, 2013 11:18 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: clemenza at March 25, 2013 11:18 AM (HMQ8k)
Posted by: RWC at March 25, 2013 11:19 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Rule #11 at March 25, 2013 11:19 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 25, 2013 11:20 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 11:20 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: UncleZeb
Tax lien -> forced sale
Suck it, serfs.
Posted by: The IRS [/i] [/b] at March 25, 2013 11:20 AM (UCv7P)
Posted by: clemenza at March 25, 2013 11:20 AM (HMQ8k)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 03:16 PM (/gHaE)
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Hey, guys. Look over here!
Posted by: Dear Leader fondling on/off switch to the internet at March 25, 2013 11:20 AM (P4MEQ)
In some ways, the marked change in policy and tone is meant to show that Medvedev was his own man during his presidency and not Putin's puppet. Of course, now that Putin is officially back in charge, Medvedev is about three steps away from the gulag.
Posted by: The Q at March 25, 2013 11:21 AM (yVmMc)
Posted by: UncleZeb at March 25, 2013 03:10 PM"
Gubmint holds auction, sells land to highest bidder, issues new deed. Done.
Posted by: irright at March 25, 2013 11:21 AM (8GKDa)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at March 25, 2013 11:21 AM (VtjlW)
Reading about Bitcoins, the takeaway is that it gets harder and harder to "mine" it every iteration. It's like the universe expanding, there's less and less density as time goes on. So this means that eventually, it will become cost prohibitive to "mine" when the rate of return becomes so low, it won't be worth it.
Posted by: EC at March 25, 2013 11:21 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 25, 2013 11:22 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 25, 2013 11:22 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at March 25, 2013 11:22 AM (vHxiM)
Posted by: RWC at March 25, 2013 03:19 PM (fWAjv)
Just had an EVIL thought.... If I Machiavelli and in charge of Israel?... I think I'd tell Cyprus we will bail you out, IF you become part of our country..
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 25, 2013 11:22 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 25, 2013 11:22 AM (FsUAO)
Or they could just RICO the whole thing and force the edge routers operators to blackhole all Bitcoin traffic.
Never underestimate the creativity or viciousness of a criminal organization (ie. the US government) looking to shutdown its competition.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 11:23 AM (/gHaE)
The protocol uses encryption to enforce rules in a distributed manner.
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So there's no controlling legal authority? cool...
Posted by: Al Gore at March 25, 2013 11:23 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: WesternActor at March 25, 2013 11:23 AM (bx8EK)
So it's already past that now? The entire market is a closed system with a finite number of Bitcoins floating around?
Posted by: EC at March 25, 2013 11:24 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Whisperer at March 25, 2013 11:24 AM (fMiHM)
so if your 401k only holds real estate how is it to be confiscated?
This works until you reach that critical point where you actually need money from your 401(k). At which point, you either have to liquidate some of your real estate holdings in the 401(k) or die. Personally, I am begining to think death may not be a bad option.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at March 25, 2013 11:24 AM (jptKU)
I'd wager that first California and Michigan will institue an exit tax to anyone who has the gall to want to flee their states.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 25, 2013 02:21 PM (tqLft)
Already been proposed: a 10% tax on all house sales in CA not matched by a corresponding house purchase - in effect, an exit tax, or as some might say, a ransom.
Didn't come to a vote in the Legislature, but it shows how the Reds are thinking. They'll revisit the proposal when they get desperate enough.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 11:24 AM (IDSI7)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2013 11:24 AM (GFM2b)
If they grabbed Cyprus, they might have enough non-Muzzies to allow a limited version of the right of return, which would officially make the Palis out of excuses - although they'd just invent new ones, and the Euros and Obamas of the world would enthusiastically support.
Posted by: The Q at March 25, 2013 11:24 AM (yVmMc)
http://tinyurl.com/d47acqf
Thanks so much, RWC!
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 25, 2013 11:25 AM (GoIUi)
It would wreck the country and a few others as well. It's political suicide.
Which makes sense in the context of all the ammo purchases.
Posted by: EC at March 25, 2013 11:25 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at March 25, 2013 11:25 AM (bxiXv)
And sooner or later the Japanese are going to get tired of a psychotic Nork neighbor and Chinese saber rattling and just say "Fuck it, we need a bomb."
If they haven't already.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Whisperer at March 25, 2013 03:24 PM (fMiHM)
The Japanese could knock together a bomb over a three-day weekend, if they wanted. I bet they're on the Israeli plan; they've got one, but keep it on the down low.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 11:25 AM (IDSI7)
Posted by: WesternActor at March 25, 2013 03:23 PM (bx8EK)
Well... there is that GREAT interest rate you get on savings.... oh.... wait.... shit....
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 25, 2013 11:26 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at March 25, 2013 11:26 AM (vHxiM)
Posted by: Beagle at March 25, 2013 11:26 AM (zKyAE)
As with all things dealing with money after everything turns to shit, look to Argentina for lessons.
Everyone there hoards foreign currency. USD are the best, but euros and yen are fine too. All big purchases are 100% cash, from houses to cars, although there has been some loosening on auto loans.
Posted by: jwest at March 25, 2013 11:26 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 11:27 AM (nqBYe)
If they grabbed Cyprus, they might have enough non-Muzzies to allow a limited version of the right of return, which would officially make the Palis out of excuses - although they'd just invent new ones, and the Euros and Obamas of the world would enthusiastically support.
This land is unacceptable --- not enough Starbucks!
Posted by: Palestinian Excuse NO. 1298654 at March 25, 2013 11:27 AM (jptKU)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 25, 2013 11:27 AM (wR+pz)
The Japanese could knock together a bomb over a three-day weekend, if they wanted. I bet they're on the Israeli plan; they've got one, but keep it on the down low.
Tentacle pr0n and sexbots aside, they're not dumb.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 25, 2013 11:28 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2013 11:29 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 25, 2013 11:29 AM (rL2Ar)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at March 25, 2013 11:29 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: JDTAY at March 25, 2013 11:30 AM (a0nis)
It won't be completely closed until something like 2030. New coins are still issued, but at a progressively slower pace until ending completely at that time.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 25, 2013 11:30 AM (+lsX1)
Tentacle pr0n and sexbots aside, they're not dumb. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 25, 2013 03:28 PM
It will be small enough to fit through a pet door.
Posted by: EC at March 25, 2013 11:30 AM (GQ8sn)
That's right. May I interest you in some limited edition Beanie Babies? They're scarce, therefore they have value.
Swap you your Beanie Babies for some tulip bulbs!
Posted by: Holland at March 25, 2013 11:31 AM (jptKU)
Posted by: alexthechick
Um, prepare to be disappointed. Severely disappointed.
Think RoboJox disappointed.
Posted by: The IRS [/i] [/b] at March 25, 2013 11:31 AM (UCv7P)
Some girl here at my work used to trade them on company time and resources.
She got canned after being given a dozen chances to stop doing it.
Posted by: EC at March 25, 2013 11:32 AM (GQ8sn)
Most people can't carry around their entire net worth in their pants. I mean... I can, but not most people.
Posted by: irright at March 25, 2013 11:32 AM (8GKDa)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at March 25, 2013 11:32 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Dang at March 25, 2013 11:33 AM (R18D0)
Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at March 25, 2013 11:33 AM (HEa5q)
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That's the way I look at it, too. This is Lord God Obama's way of telling us that mere public disapproval will not stop our fundamental transformation into Zimbabwe.
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 25, 2013 11:33 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Burnett at March 25, 2013 11:33 AM (PRFtT)
Posted by: wooga at March 25, 2013 11:33 AM (uXs7Z)
Posted by: EC at March 25, 2013 03:32 PM (GQ8sn)
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She should've been canned just for stupidity.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 11:33 AM (IDSI7)
Posted by: EC at March 25, 2013 11:34 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 25, 2013 11:34 AM (rL2Ar)
Most people can't carry around their entire net worth in their pants. I mean
Want to see my valuables?
Posted by: Helen Thomas at March 25, 2013 11:34 AM (BrQrN)
Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 25, 2013 11:34 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at March 25, 2013 11:34 AM (feFL6)
She got canned after being given a dozen chances to stop doing it.
Posted by: EC
LOL! Well I guess that little business venture of hers didn't pay off at all!
Posted by: Dang at March 25, 2013 11:34 AM (R18D0)
"They had currency sniffing dogs at the ferry to Uruguay. Only once was I stopped at a airport security point. Guy looked at my cash, smiled and let me through."
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 25, 2013 03:27 PM (wR+pz)
They limit you to $10,000 each coming into the country, so my wife and I had that much on us and a similar amount in each of our carry-on's.
No one is brave (or stupid) enough to pack cash in their checked luggage because the baggage handlers know the drill too.
Posted by: jwest at March 25, 2013 11:35 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at March 25, 2013 11:35 AM (VtjlW)
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I did see photos of a demonstration. There was a protester hold a sign reading (in English) "Aphrodite is Angry!" I think they are calling down the wrath of the gods.
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 25, 2013 11:35 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 25, 2013 11:36 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at March 25, 2013 11:36 AM (V3kRK)
Posted by: Muad'dib at March 25, 2013 03:03 PM (KjlbF)
*sniff* That was beautiful. *sniff
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What do we want! A new trailer! When do we want it! NOW!
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at March 25, 2013 03:21 PM (VtjlW)
Fuck. Yes. The last 6 work days have been so fucked up, and oh, did I mention that our tax guy no showed our appt and won't return a phone call, so I think I deserve something nice.
Although, AtC could simply turn on those webcams.....
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 25, 2013 11:36 AM (da5Wo)
The Japanese could knock together a bomb over a
three-day weekend, if they wanted. I bet they're on the Israeli plan;
they've got one, but keep it on the down low.
I'm fairly certain they'll have one soon, if they don't already.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 25, 2013 11:36 AM (4df7R)
It won't be completely closed until something like 2030. New coins are still issued, but at a progressively slower pace until ending completely at that time.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 25, 2013 03:30 PM (+lsX1)
How can they do that without "central control"?
I think it sounds sketchy.
Gold is the only money that has existed for thousands of years.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at March 25, 2013 11:36 AM (AWmfW)
Posted by: Whatev at March 25, 2013 11:36 AM (A7Wh1)
Posted by: Alvin Toffler at March 25, 2013 11:36 AM (j3uk1)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Whisperer at March 25, 2013 11:37 AM (fMiHM)
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at March 25, 2013 11:37 AM (VLifP)
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That plus they are afraid that the new trustee may try to close the free flowing money tap.
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 25, 2013 11:38 AM (XUKZU)
I hear that Singapore and Qatar are going to welcome any Swiss cash that wants to remain protected from the grubby hands of Obama
Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2013 11:38 AM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Whisperer at March 25, 2013 11:38 AM (fMiHM)
you know my family saw this movie in the original English...circa 1385-1460....
my Surname lost a lot of land paying off war debt...you know Crusader war debt
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 11:39 AM (LRFds)
#313: Already been proposed: a 10% tax on all house sales in CA not matched by a corresponding house purchase - in effect, an exit tax, or as some might say, a ransom.
Hmm, I see a business opportunity. In some small Eastern Califiornia town, I'll build a few cardboard box houses and sell them for $10k apiece to homeowners looking to flee the state. Therefore, a corresponding house purchase and tax-free sale. Then, after whatever necessary time period elapses, I'll manage the sale of the $10k box to another fleeing homeowner. The homeowner only loses $1,000 plus commission to CA's tax.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at March 25, 2013 11:39 AM (+/C3g)
Posted by: phoenixgirl
Oh they're all Greek to me.
Posted by: Dang at March 25, 2013 11:40 AM (R18D0)
OK, put to me some knowledge.
If I want to buy a Bitcoin, who is selling it to me? How did he get it? Or if the issuance of "new" Bitcoins is still going on, how are they issued? What's stopping me from getting a Bitcoin generator(tm) and cashing in? What about the computers underlying the whole thing...what's keeping them from being hacked (again)?
I'm trying to keep an open mind here, but from the sketchy information I have they sound like the Smurfberries my kid used to have me buy for him on that iPhone app.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 25, 2013 11:40 AM (eytER)
Posted by: Don Henley at March 25, 2013 11:40 AM (wLY+G)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 25, 2013 11:41 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: things you don't hear much anymore at March 25, 2013 11:41 AM (QupBk)
"What do we want?" "Stupid shit!" When do we want it?" "Now!"
"No stupid shit - no peace!"
Posted by: Dang at March 25, 2013 11:42 AM (R18D0)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 25, 2013 11:43 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Marmo at March 25, 2013 11:43 AM (QW+AD)
Posted by: Beagle at March 25, 2013 11:43 AM (zKyAE)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at March 25, 2013 11:43 AM (V3kRK)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 25, 2013 11:43 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 11:44 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 25, 2013 11:44 AM (9Bj8R)
Let me tell you the sheer stupidity of this girl:
1. Instead of doing work, she was constantly on the phone and internet, trading them.
2. She would drive to a McDonald's at least an hour away in Bumfucksville where no one really would get them through the Happy Meals.
3. She bought 30 Happy Meals at a time to gather as many Beanies as she could, and would throw away the other 28, 29 that she didn't eat.
4. She placed a classified ad to trade them in a newspaper. In New York.
5. The number she placed in her ad, was the company's 800 number. When prospective customers would call, they would get our switchboard before they asked to be connected to her extension. When they called, they would ask, "Is this the Beanie Baby trader?"
6. Company starts an internal security investigation.
7. Investigation is over within minutes as her name and extension is IN THE AD!!!!
8. Somehow, the girl finds out that corporate security has identified her. She calls the VP of CS, at his home, and pleads with him not to have her fired.
9. Dept head, who was retarded as well, gives the girl more chances than I would have gotten had I did this, to straighten out and fly right.
10. She can't produce the work at a level consistent with her claimed abilities on her resume.
11. After many, many opportunities to get it right, they finally tell her to clean her desk out. I was told the day before to take a free vacation day! Yay!!! That's my best memory of the whole incident.
The whole thing was retarded. Retarded all the way down.
Posted by: EC at March 25, 2013 11:44 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at March 25, 2013 11:45 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: I.P. Freehley at March 25, 2013 11:45 AM (cvrr4)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 25, 2013 11:46 AM (XvHmy)
The Japanese could knock together a bomb over a three-day weekend, if they wanted. I bet they're on the Israeli plan; they've got one, but keep it on the down low.
I'm fairly certain they'll have one soon, if they don't already.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 25, 2013 03:36 PM (4df7R)
My guess is that they've got the components for one, but if it's technically possible keep them in separate locations so that no one can say they've got a bomb. Fissionable material here, krytrons there, shaped charges somewhere else, that sort of thing.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 11:46 AM (IDSI7)
Posted by: no doubt at March 25, 2013 11:47 AM (DQs4d)
Lot of big foundations with some big piles of cash they are just sitting on.
Just pointing it out.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at March 25, 2013 11:48 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Downfall at March 25, 2013 11:48 AM (cvrr4)
The international communists have never let go of that connection and have used that to build the narrative of Israel as an "apartheid state."
Posted by: The Q at March 25, 2013 11:48 AM (yVmMc)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 11:49 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: the urban dictionary at March 25, 2013 11:49 AM (j3uk1)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Whisperer at March 25, 2013 11:49 AM (fMiHM)
Now all I have have to do is invent and market Nuka-Cola...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Whisperer at March 25, 2013 03:49 PM
yeah, then spend weeks searching for them in bombed out office desks, file cabinets, and a few cola vending machines.
Posted by: Berserker at March 25, 2013 11:53 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Ivan the Fairly Decent at March 25, 2013 11:53 AM (cvrr4)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 25, 2013 11:56 AM (wR+pz)
Billy Bob's making it rain!!!
Visit any whiskerias?
Posted by: EC at March 25, 2013 11:57 AM (GQ8sn)
http://tinyurl.com/akvqbsp Posted by: The Political Hat
Someone waking up?
Posted by: Dang at March 25, 2013 11:58 AM (R18D0)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at March 25, 2013 11:59 AM (1hM1d)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 25, 2013 12:00 PM (wpPY5)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Whisperer at March 25, 2013 12:01 PM (fMiHM)
I look at pictures of downtown Detroit and I can't tell them apart from scenes in Fallout 3.
Posted by: EC at March 25, 2013 12:02 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Ivan the Fairly Decent at March 25, 2013 12:03 PM (cvrr4)
Yeah the big brouhaha over FO4 being in Boston?
That's because nobody would buy "Monday in Downtown Detroit" as an RPG cute Ghouls or no...
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 12:12 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 25, 2013 12:25 PM (ahZqS)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 25, 2013 12:27 PM (ahZqS)
Posted by: General Zod at March 25, 2013 01:28 PM (2+bRt)
Posted by: UncleZeb at March 25, 2013 01:39 PM (Nvirt)
But liberals can't help themselves, and my guess is if the American people keep sending them to office because of small, stupid issues, they will overreach and try something like that when the shit starts hitting the fan.
Europeans can't print like the US can, which is why these sort of draconian actions are being taken. If we had a Fed that had a leash on it, we would be forced to live more within our means.
Posted by: McAdams at March 25, 2013 02:04 PM (IZjA3)
Posted by: Tasmaniac at March 25, 2013 03:09 PM (X2M6S)
Posted by: Pissed_off_voter at March 25, 2013 04:16 PM (GnMB8)
Posted by: notsothoreau at March 25, 2013 05:11 PM (5HBd1)
Posted by: Unclezeb at March 25, 2013 08:13 PM (Nvirt)
Turn the cash into valuables. Then sneak them out.
I read about one family fleeing to Spain with a nearly dead automobile, and a fortune in platinum molded into the shape of a set of beat up greasy wrenches and tire jack in a tool box.
The Nazi guards turned out their pockets, took all their petty cash, and ordered them to get that wreck of an automobile out of Germany.
Posted by: Kristophr at March 26, 2013 08:31 AM (wYVte)
Which is why I live in Wyoming.
Posted by: Kristophr at March 26, 2013 08:33 AM (wYVte)
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