March 30, 2013
— Open Blogger See, we're not really robbing you per se, we're giving you a "share" in the enterprise!
...Under conditions expected to be announced on Saturday, depositors in Bank of Cyprus will get shares in the bank worth 37.5 percent of their deposits over 100,000 euros, the source told Reuters, while the rest of their deposits may never be paid back...The bad news is that 37.5% of zero is still zero, and the plane is crashing. The worser news is your parachute was stolen and your share doesn't have a rip cord.
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Posted by: Major _____ de Coverly at March 30, 2013 04:11 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 30, 2013 04:11 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 30, 2013 04:11 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at March 30, 2013 04:12 PM (j3uk1)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at March 30, 2013 04:13 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 30, 2013 04:13 PM (xFfjV)
You get 37%, but don't try to sell it (even if someone would buy it.)
And don't expect to take your losses as a write off!
Posted by: tsrblke at March 30, 2013 04:13 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 30, 2013 04:14 PM (IY7Ir)
Thank G*d a new post. The old topic was stale
...think that parachute w/o a ripcord should have an HQ logo?
Posted by: Albie Damned at March 30, 2013 04:15 PM (Yhu4q)
How many years have they been peddling that very same message?
Posted by: Peaches at March 30, 2013 04:16 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 04:16 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: angel with a sword at March 30, 2013 04:16 PM (IcPGc)
*****
How many years have they been peddling that very same message?
Posted by: Peaches at March 30, 2013 08:16 PM (8lmkt)
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That's the thing with economic predictions. Predict something long enough, eventually it will happen. The guy who predicted Dow 36,000 will one day be right as well.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 30, 2013 04:17 PM (HDgX3)
Savings by Serta is looking better and better.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at March 30, 2013 04:18 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: tobacco road at March 30, 2013 04:18 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 30, 2013 04:18 PM (Cnqmv)
maybe...
are we counting "easy bake Stock Exchange" toys?
Societal trust needed for the mass confidence game is dying.....
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 04:18 PM (LRFds)
"Worth" 37.5%? Well, if the bank stock was really worth what they are claiming, then all they'd have to do is sell it on the open market and people would be lining up to buy it and they wouldn't need to confiscate deposits. Yeah, right, that stock is worth is about zero if not less.
And keep in mind that according to our banking law, when you deposit funds with a bank, the bank owns those funds. All you have is a claim on those funds, supposedly guaranteed by the FDIC. But as a matter of ownership, the courts have ruled the banks owns the money.
Just keep that in mind.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at March 30, 2013 04:19 PM (Pqgwi)
Posted by: Muslim Brotherhood at March 30, 2013 04:19 PM (sOtz/)
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Pilot (bearing strange resemblance to EU president) strides down aisle *with* a parachute that looks a lot like *yours*, announces..., "Don't worry, I'm going for help."
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 30, 2013 04:19 PM (aDwsi)
my bed never gave me a 40% haircut....
unless you count the time a blonde was in it and damn near got me divorced....
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 04:19 PM (LRFds)
Did you wade into the comments? If so, I'll have Bannion set up the decon shower for you.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at March 30, 2013 04:19 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: tobacco road at March 30, 2013 04:20 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 30, 2013 04:20 PM (IY7Ir)
quite...
zerohedge....come for the Luap Noirish DOOM! run like hell from their zombie death commentariat
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 04:21 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 08:18 PM (LRFds)
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After all that's happened in the last decade, you'd think the sheep have caught on. They haven't. In the past 2 weeks I've heard numerous people tell me how real estate is poised for a huge comeback and now is the time to load up on condos at pennies on the dollar to flip them for huge profit in a year or two. It's like we've been transported back to 2004 and our memories about the housing bubble/crash have been erased.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 30, 2013 04:21 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 30, 2013 08:20 PM
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If they are going to use the current price, it's got to be circling the toilet.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 30, 2013 04:22 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Peaches at March 30, 2013 08:16 PM (8lmkt)
I just started reading them since Cyprus happened. But the belief that we're at the start of the end now is my belief since we're now seeing savings deposits looted from banks in order for politicians to continue spending just so they can stay in power.
Cyprus destroyed whatever trust might have still existed between citizens and banks and governments. I don't see how this can continue...
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 30, 2013 04:22 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 30, 2013 04:22 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at March 30, 2013 04:22 PM (1hekh)
Thank you, rugged stranger . . .
Posted by: Peaches at March 30, 2013 04:22 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 30, 2013 04:23 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 30, 2013 04:23 PM (piMMO)
Who needs trust, when you hold the sword.
Posted by: Diocletian Dominus at March 30, 2013 04:23 PM (QTHTd)
And another thing to remember. To you, a depositor, a deposit is an asset. To a bank, they are a liability. The banks assets are the cash on hand it has, plus all the loans it has made (plus stocks and other crap, like derivatives, etc, etc). That is the asset side of its balance sheet. When those go to hell, then liabilities (which are the deposits mostly) exceed that. By wiping out deposits, you make the bank whole again on paper.
And you just those deposits you made are now equity the depositors put in, hence the stock conversion.
This will happen here, make no mistake.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at March 30, 2013 04:23 PM (Pqgwi)
Posted by: real joe at March 30, 2013 04:23 PM (PD2ad)
Ah...I am a lifelong fan of the HP-35, I am also fascinated byt he SW 39/59 series....
I bought an FEG P9RK because it is a hybrid of the two. I have a police armorer gunsmith I trust who has the integrity to admit when a task is beyond his jedi powers and subcontract so I plan to put half again what i bought it for minimum into product improving it into a CCW weapon.
Novak sights, polishing, tuned trigger, improved feed ramp, better spring if need be.....
Pretty sure I am gonna study up to get my Bail Bondsman license next year.
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 04:24 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 30, 2013 08:22 PM (AC0lD)
It's fuckin' Cyprus . . . basically Greece. And the banks were fat with Russian mafia cash. Unbunch thy panties, my friend, take a deep breath and have a cocktail.
Posted by: Peaches at March 30, 2013 04:24 PM (8lmkt)
The other thing is that the people with under 100K in the bank are in the forced loan business too as they can only take out a certain amount per day.
Anything not a current needs business there in going to die.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 30, 2013 04:24 PM (IY7Ir)
The wife brought home Argo to watch.
Is it any good, or should I down another handful of Oxys Posted by: Albie Damned at March 30, 2013 08:23 PM
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A little girly at times, acting about an 8.., but watch it, it is entertaining
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 30, 2013 04:25 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at March 30, 2013 08:19 PM (Gk3SS)
Yeah, I've been into the comments. Again, I've only been at the site since Cyprus started, but after reading the comments, perhaps I'm not paranoid enough.
DOOM threads, which I love, pale in comparison....
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 30, 2013 04:25 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 30, 2013 04:26 PM (GVxQo)
was accosted by a nice realtor at hardees willing to buy my house...
understand barry is reinflating the real estate bubble and the sheep don't get that the 16,000 DADDY HIGHER HIGHER stock market is literally on a pile of bullshit...
if I had a spare 150 grand instead of just 15,000 I'd be patiently waiting to go HILLARY! Cattle futures short in about a year tops...
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 04:26 PM (LRFds)
The wife brought home Argo to watch.
Is it any good, or should I down another handful of Oxys
Posted by: Albie Damned at March 30, 2013 08:23 PM
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Spoiler Alert!
Watch for the Joe Biden cued "Shoot through the door" gambit. Doesn't end well for the guy...
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 30, 2013 04:26 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: JACK SHIT at March 30, 2013 04:27 PM (9Pr2h)
Posted by: Peaches at March 30, 2013 04:27 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 30, 2013 04:28 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 30, 2013 04:28 PM (Sptt8)
manfrommombasa wrote:
This is simple. Bank deposits are insured
up to 100 K euros , when the bank fails, deposits above that are not
covered. In 2008 200 banks in the US failed, folks whose deposits exceed
the $250K FDIC limit lost their money . And most bank stock holders in
those 200 banks got wiped out. The press just did not talk about it . My
Washington Mutual bank stock went down to 20 cents a share. When the
US can no longer sell T Bills at 3% (for what ever reason) then our
government will do what cyprus did and confiscate money ( IRAÂ’s and 401
KÂ’s will be first on the list) and we will get IOU bonds in their place.
This will be done for our own good because without doing it all savings
will be at risk. This is what we will be told, we will be told itÂ’s a
global problem many years in the making yada yada yada , our national
debt of, pick a trillion number, will not be mentioned as the cause the T
Bill problem. Banks will be closed while we come up with a NEW T bill
that international folks like , (probably backed in part by gold as
opposed to the full faith and credit of the US etc. ) and gold will have
to be surrendered of course (all for the national good) ,youÂ’ll have 30
days to take it to a Federal bank and redeem it for dollars. Failure
will result in fines and confiscation etc. for a period of time banks
will limit withdrawals , taking money out of the country will be
severely limited until everything gets “sorted out”. If you think about
it how else can it end?
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Posted by: SFGoth at March 30, 2013 04:28 PM (KWws5)
Posted by: Peaches at March 30, 2013 08:27 PM (8lmkt)
____________
People said the same thing about Peter Schiff. And he turned out to be 100% right.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 30, 2013 04:29 PM (HDgX3)
Zero Hedge is a fun site to read, if you don't take it too seriously.
It's a lot like reading Debka. Sometimes interesting, sometimes bullshit.
We'll see if this spreads beyond Cyprus. It was a special case, in many ways, too little to have the kind of financial leverage that a major state has, yet a bank haven for a lot of rich Russians. And the greedy Euro elite thought they could staunch some bleeding bond problems with outright theft.
The next 60 days will be interesting. War with N. Korea, Syria collapses, Obama goes on vacation again. Anything could happen.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch, writes at March 30, 2013 04:29 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: JACK SHIT at March 30, 2013 08:27 PM
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They came for the Hoovers..., but I didn't own a Hoover, then they came for the Eurekas...
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 30, 2013 04:29 PM (aDwsi)
Really wouldn't go into the comments over at ZH, but hell I don't go into the comments at Hot Air, but I will say they will do the financial stories that no one else will.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 30, 2013 04:30 PM (IY7Ir)
That's pretty much a full sized 9MM, right? Would you not want to think about a larger caliber for that line of work? I traded for an XDs (.45ACP) a couple of weeks ago. I like my Colt 1911 MUCH better, but the XDs is nice and small.
Posted by: tobacco road at March 30, 2013 04:30 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 30, 2013 04:31 PM (piMMO)
Watch Italy. Spain, too.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 30, 2013 04:31 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Peaches at March 30, 2013 04:31 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 30, 2013 04:32 PM (VjL9S)
There's several million residential units sitting unsold, and the banks are dragging their feet on making a few million more official because it would move them from the asset to liability column and crater their cash reserves and collapse the banks.
Any real estate boom, is several DECADES into the future.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 30, 2013 04:32 PM (/gHaE)
Yeah..
I carried when I was a rent a cop with a few neat chores...
9mm glazers usually get the job done and ideally I never pull the damn thing.if I sell the house I have a 1911 slide I have nasty plans for....
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 04:32 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 30, 2013 04:32 PM (HDgX3)
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Sounds like the script from Catch Twenty Two.
Posted by: sTevo at March 30, 2013 04:33 PM (VMcEw)
Per the comment above from SF Goth (from Reuters)
The problem is the point spread between what government bonds are selling for and interest rates. Which right now is real tiny.
If inflation kicks in with a vengeance (and it probably will someday), an awful lot of banks are gonna go tits up, and yeah, they will take your money assets (401K and IRA) and replace them with crappy government paper, which will be illiquid for quite a while.
Think of the whole GM bankruptcy scam writ very large.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch, writes at March 30, 2013 04:36 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 30, 2013 08:31 PM (piMMO)
Until they run out and they weren't shy about giving me a bucket load of them...90 ct
Posted by: Albie Damned at March 30, 2013 04:36 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: sTevo at March 30, 2013 04:36 PM (VMcEw)
ah you are correct sir BUT SCIENCE!
We give free money to retard homebuyers we can make it LOOK good for as long as we print freemoney!
Bark is getting to run the economy on easy mode to a degree...
the media would let him say, "er uh I have come up with an AWESOME plan...I sold all our stuff and gambled the baby's shoe money to buy these magic beans and a sack for my own shit....now watch this drive!"
and they would refuse to admit it is scary retarded.
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 04:38 PM (LRFds)
And thus the $64,000 question. When?
I'm 2.5 years away from being able to start moving mine out, sans 10% penalty. I think I'll wait, but it makes me nervous.
Posted by: tobacco road at March 30, 2013 04:38 PM (4Mv1T)
we are through the looking glass and living in a 3d world world
the ONLY sane answer from an econ standpoint would be rising rates to get solid backing for the money runs....
instead we get "er uh hi I am the guy offering the fucking money run....don't worry I'll buy 92.1 cents on the dollar of this print...trust me I am good for it"....
for oh 5 fucking years now....
*boom*
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 04:40 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 30, 2013 04:40 PM (/gHaE)
Here, Michael Teikitupthiassos; here's TP for your bunghole. We swear it was worth 10,000 euros at the time we made the deal. What, you want to trade it back in for some real euros? NOW?!
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 30, 2013 04:40 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: tobacco road at March 30, 2013 08:38 PM (4Mv1T)
you can always move it out of the funds or stocks into a cash position . . . doesn't grow, but it won't shrink in the coming "correction," which should be a doozy.
Posted by: Peaches at March 30, 2013 04:41 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: The Bloated Colonel at March 30, 2013 04:42 PM (+bZOu)
It's like they've bent over and supplied their own lubricants.
Posted by: Peaches at March 30, 2013 04:42 PM (8lmkt)
6 I cannot imagine how anyone thinks this is going to end in anything other than flames.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at March 30, 2013 08:13 PM (Gk3SS)
Well, that's optimistic. I cannot imagine how anyone thinks this is going to end other than everyone bending over and taking it raw with a smile.
Posted by: chicken mama at March 30, 2013 04:43 PM (UVhHv)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 30, 2013 04:43 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Eaton Cox at March 30, 2013 04:44 PM (q177U)
I consider it safely in the mattress for now. Just don't know how long that mattress will be technically "mine".
Posted by: tobacco road at March 30, 2013 04:44 PM (4Mv1T)
tobacco road @ 89
Yeah, I'm just short of two years. I've got really itchy fingers about my 401K and my IRA.
Timing in the US? It probably won't be in 2013. And we may get some clues. But if something dramatic happens to wratchet the economy around, then it may move up the timeline.
And don't think a lot of "boomers" aren't thinking the same thing. A big move by millions of our cohort to liquidate savings could trigger something bad, too.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch, writes at March 30, 2013 04:44 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 30, 2013 04:45 PM (GEICT)
... who happen not to like Jews very much.
/yeah, this ends well
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 30, 2013 04:45 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Berserker at March 30, 2013 04:45 PM (FMbng)
basically that is where I am leaning with encouraging Allen g in his thinking up the pioneer project....
and that is not a plug to go bang that tip jar I'm sven not a slaesguy or a grifter...
owning a corner chicken shop is a better RoR perhaps in my worried eyes than a nice goosed below hidden inflation annuity....
I dunno....tread carefully and judge for yourself as always.
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 04:45 PM (LRFds)
yeah I've seen that movie before....
it was in balck and white but I do recall the colors black, white, and red in the colour plates....
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 04:46 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: EROWMER at March 30, 2013 04:47 PM (kxlCQ)
I cannot imagine how anyone thinks this is going to end in anything other than flames.
A friend of mine in Spain is saying that there have already been "suspicious" deaths of EU bureaucrats. The only thing keeping that country from going up like a tinderbox is that many of the "unemployed" are simply too lazy to get a job.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 30, 2013 04:48 PM (lr3d7)
Yeah I almost bought a PX-4 storm or Nano as well...
in the end I just like oddball tech and I knew I was gonna customize the hell out of it...
truth be told the pistol I most want I simply can't get and that is a Caracal 9cQS....
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 04:49 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 30, 2013 04:49 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 30, 2013 04:49 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 30, 2013 04:50 PM (1V6Pv)
and they lack the strength of character and "romantic" bent to do the moral thing if the moral thing is in fact rebellion/revolution...
institutionalized and indulged laziness is the grimmest and most cunning tool the slavemasters have ever tried.
I hate them.
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 04:50 PM (LRFds)
Watching Italy, too
Beppo Grillo. Do these EU monkeys want him to be the next Italian PM, because that sure looks like the next big thing.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch, writes at March 30, 2013 04:50 PM (Md8Uo)
Still shopping for carry holsters for my XDs and I'm told the Glock 26 holster is a glove match.
Posted by: tobacco road at March 30, 2013 04:50 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Gradu8 of the ObamaBiden School of Economics at March 30, 2013 04:51 PM (KZFbB)
NOTHING TO SEE AMERIKA YOUR MONEY IS SOUND AS THE SHIP I AM CARRYING!
//Super Bark shouldering the SS Titanic
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 04:51 PM (LRFds)
and they lack the strength of character and "romantic" bent to do the moral thing if the moral thing is in fact rebellion/revolution...
institutionalized and indulged laziness is the grimmest and most cunning tool the slavemasters have ever tried.
What will eventually happen is that they'll find a charismatic leader who convinces them to get off the couch, and put on jackboots.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 30, 2013 04:52 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 04:52 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 30, 2013 04:52 PM (bxiXv)
and I'd name it Ashley
It'd make a lot of noise, get spun up, but then do nothing of value?
Also, it's Wynona's puffier model, right?
Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 30, 2013 04:54 PM (lr3d7)
There will be so many FSA locusts swarming out of the cities, the security will be overwhelmed. Those cribs get picked clean within the first couple of months.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 30, 2013 04:54 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 30, 2013 04:54 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 04:54 PM (9XBK2)
I opened a Citi account about 6-8 months ago. I figured the govt will fuck everyone else first.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 30, 2013 04:56 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 04:56 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 30, 2013 04:56 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 30, 2013 04:57 PM (Cnqmv)
I'm helping a guy get savvy on ammo sales....
I would like to help an out of work Hobo Machinist get a concern making C+R weapon magazines using some modern process with equipment and a small bankroll.....
Kickstarters may be the future JustAMom....
me, I plan to get a greasetrap concern and ConEx conversion business going when DoD finally stops making angry love to my wife's nether region....
everyone should be working on a 'spare" you in case it all turns to shit.
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 04:59 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 30, 2013 04:59 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 04:59 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 30, 2013 04:59 PM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: teej at March 30, 2013 05:00 PM (SFZtG)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 30, 2013 05:02 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: tobacco road at March 30, 2013 05:04 PM (4Mv1T)
Ohio St can't turn this into a game so the refs are going to?
Posted by: teej at March 30, 2013 09:00 PM (SFZtG)
Why stop now...got some help before too.
Posted by: Red Shirt at March 30, 2013 05:05 PM (FIDMq)
“The Army objects to (the proposal) because it would undermine the prosecution of Major Nidal Hasan by materially and directly compromising Major Hasan’s ability to receive a fair trial. This provision will be viewed as setting the stage for a formal declaration that Major Hasan is a terrorist, on what is now the eve of trial. Such a situation, prior to trial, would fundamentally compromise the fairness and due process of the pending trial,” the document said.
I fail to see how this legislation would deny Major Hasan’s ability to receive a fair trial. He is a terrorist, and the DoD’s continuing efforts to pawn off his terrorism as “workplace violence” tells you how stupid the Obama Administration thinks the American people really are. Posted at 8:36 pm byPosted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 05:05 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 30, 2013 05:06 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 05:06 PM (9XBK2)
He should have been summarily executed and the goddamned Fort Hood CG or Provost would have been well within the goddamned UCMJ to do so.
Asshole Brass.
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 05:07 PM (LRFds)
Those troops were on an SRP cycle directly part of a deployment....
this is horsefuck Kabuki theater and why we lost the war.
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 05:09 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 05:09 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 30, 2013 05:09 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 30, 2013 05:10 PM (Cnqmv)
He *should* be a character lesson and cautionary tale for the moral integrity and restraint within the force...
instead he is a circus clown who also has the Mic...
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 05:10 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 05:11 PM (9XBK2)
I've been to the sports stadium and had dozens of people I care about cycle through there...
my wife is an S-1 NCO and SRP protocols and actions are her baby.....
the whole thing...
it is a zoo
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 05:11 PM (LRFds)
I've been catching up at zerohedge for the last hour.
Posted by: Peaches
Rothchild bankster false-flag spy!
ZH had up what I gather was a planning memo for the Cyprus debacle. Apparently the other shoe to drop is an abrogation/haircut on Cyprus sovereign debt.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 30, 2013 05:12 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 30, 2013 05:13 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: teej at March 30, 2013 05:13 PM (L7JQT)
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 09:06 PM (9XBK2)
Meanwhile Bradley Manning nominated for Nobel Peace Prize.
http://www.huntingtonnews.net/58551
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 30, 2013 05:14 PM (0dZJc)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 30, 2013 05:14 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 30, 2013 05:14 PM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 05:15 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 30, 2013 05:15 PM (Cnqmv)
fact is end of the day...
look you do grasp Venona would have never happened with the current general Staff yes?
That is why I am not blindly confident 80% of the military would be against King bark the Malignant
Political correctness means 60% of the time at least the system is working FOR the opfor.
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 05:15 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 30, 2013 05:17 PM (PNi9V)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 30, 2013 05:17 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 05:17 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 30, 2013 05:18 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 30, 2013 05:19 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 05:19 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 05:20 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 30, 2013 05:20 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 30, 2013 05:22 PM (K4AdI)
168 Yeah,they knew it and some blame has to go on GW Bush for his continual lack of understanding the truth about islam.Religion of piece my ass.
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Remember when they changed the name of the first anti-terror op after 9/11 because it had Crusader in it? That's when I knew they weren't entirely serious.
Posted by: USS Diversity at March 30, 2013 05:24 PM (+bZOu)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 30, 2013 05:24 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 30, 2013 05:24 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 30, 2013 05:24 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 05:25 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at March 30, 2013 05:27 PM (UrENZ)
I'd suggest a seat on the rear gravity axis of the wing....
impact fold bang you might live....
You recall during the election cycle when I was up fro 3-4 days at a pop....?
go to NTSB and read the reports and survival analyses.
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 05:29 PM (LRFds)
“The Army objects to (the proposal) because it would undermine the prosecution of Major Nidal
Hasan by materially and directly compromising Major HasanÂ’s ability to receive a fair trial. This provision will be viewed as setting the stage for a formal declaration that Major Hasan is a terrorist, on what is now the eve of trial.
What the fuck is the holdup? A problem identifying the perp?
The cocksucker is going to die of old age before the fucking Army gets around to his court martial, never mind his execution, to which I for one look forward.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 30, 2013 05:29 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 30, 2013 05:30 PM (K4AdI)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 30, 2013 05:30 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: James I at March 30, 2013 05:30 PM (xem8G)
one night with "Adult Catholic Swim" here at the horde we were reminiscing over "what would the Borgias do?" yes/////?
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 05:31 PM (LRFds)
a terrorist, and the DoDÂ’s continuing efforts to pawn off his
terrorism as “workplace violence” tells you how stupid the
Obama Administration thinks the American people really are.
Posted at 8:36 pm by
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 09:05 PM (9XBK2)
It would be rather amusing if not so bizarre how they've covered this.
The fact that half the country is being treated with fists everyday on the news, with the attempt to make anything that happens the fault of a right wing,bible thumping, bitter clinger.
yet when it's real they protect their little murderous terrorist like a baby.
Posted by: willow at March 30, 2013 05:32 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 05:32 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 30, 2013 05:32 PM (GVxQo)
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 05:33 PM (9XBK2)
168 Yeah,they knew it and some blame has to go on GW Bush for his continual lack of understanding the truth about islam.Religion of piece my ass.
Sorry, I have to disagree. There's a good argument for publicly pretending that Islam is all sweetness and light, namely, to help keep pussified leftists here and abroad on board (or at least not provide them with grist for their agitprop), and to have a shot at splitting radical Muslims from the not-so-radical ones.
Having said that, everyone knows that full-on, no-shit Islam is a bloodthirsty, murderous death cult bent on world domination, but it's sometimes politic not to let on that one realizes that.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 30, 2013 05:33 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 30, 2013 05:33 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Tami [/i] at March 30, 2013 05:34 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 30, 2013 05:34 PM (mre5O)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsens.. at March 30, 2013 05:34 PM (Md8Uo)
very very sensible precautions....
as our economic realities implode we should collapse into a geographic region....
I am very serious, not a survivalist nut looking to go Koresh II and am just passing on sensible cold war era advice I heard passed around.
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 05:34 PM (LRFds)
correct....
why barack Hussein Obama could not execute Nidal Hasan misguided American patriot anymore than he could shun his domestic terrorist neighbor....
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 05:35 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 05:35 PM (9XBK2)
The fact that half the country is being treated with fists everyday on the news, with the attempt to make anything that happens the fault of a right wing,bible thumping, bitter clinger.
yet when it's real they protect their little murderous terrorist like a baby.
Posted by: willow at March 30, 2013 09:32 PM (nqBYe)
I'm going to short form repeat my ranting about this - those who refuse to hold radical Islamists to the most basic standards of human decency are the utter bigots who are treating those individuals as having no agency or will of their own. It's an assumption that they are wee little children who just can't help it and who aren't actually fully human and thus responsible for their own actions.
It's vile is what it is.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at March 30, 2013 05:36 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 30, 2013 05:36 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 30, 2013 05:36 PM (K4AdI)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 30, 2013 05:37 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 30, 2013 05:38 PM (mre5O)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 30, 2013 05:38 PM (K4AdI)
Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2013 05:38 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Tami [/i] at March 30, 2013 05:38 PM (X6akg)
IF Nidal is actually convicted, he won't be executed.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsens.. at March 30, 2013 09:34 PM (Md8Uo)
Goddamnit, now I'm really depressed.
If we ever have to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del on this republic - and it increasingly looks as though we will - in American republic 2.0 we need to bring back hanging (within a year of conviction, as in Victorian times) as a method of execution (none of that pussified lethal injection; hell, most Mondays I'd opt for that myself), and condition voting on paying taxes or serving in the military. Disenfranchise the FSA.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 30, 2013 05:39 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: Craig Poe at March 30, 2013 05:39 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 30, 2013 05:40 PM (mre5O)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 30, 2013 05:40 PM (piMMO)
I could make a joke about "play the same game on the gridiron" but I am already heading towards hell no need to throw another log on the fire.
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 05:41 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 30, 2013 05:41 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 30, 2013 05:41 PM (K4AdI)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at March 30, 2013 05:41 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 30, 2013 05:41 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: USS Diversity, only watching hoops this month at March 30, 2013 05:42 PM (+bZOu)
the administration is making deals with whomever , while muslim brotherhood moves into the mideast as the Power.
I can find No consistancy whatsoever between Who is droned who comes into power, it seems disfunctional.
and disconnected.
exactly who is running this disfunction?
Posted by: willow at March 30, 2013 05:42 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 30, 2013 05:42 PM (29+x5)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 30, 2013 09:41 PM (piMMO)
Short trip.
Posted by: Tami [/i] at March 30, 2013 05:42 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Big Wino at March 30, 2013 05:42 PM (OZtuG)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at March 30, 2013 05:43 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 30, 2013 05:43 PM (mre5O)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at March 30, 2013 05:44 PM (Jcd0S)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 30, 2013 09:37 PM (bxiXv)
nothing makes sense to me.
foreign terrorists given constitutional rights to our courts, while americans rights are be considered as too broad!
Posted by: willow at March 30, 2013 05:44 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Big Wino at March 30, 2013 09:42 PM (OZtuG)
Michigan is left...they play Florida tomm.
Posted by: Red Shirt at March 30, 2013 05:45 PM (FIDMq)
They didn't execute the Blind Sheik, Abdul Rahman, and they didn't execute Ramsi Yusef. And they were responsible for killing a lot more. And they haven't executed Sheik Kahlid, who was the "mastermind" of the 9-11 terror attack.
They won't excecute Nidal.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsens.. at March 30, 2013 05:45 PM (Md8Uo)
or maybe "Titanic's Achilles Heel"
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 05:45 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Craig Poe at March 30, 2013 05:45 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 30, 2013 05:46 PM (K4AdI)
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 09:42 PM (LRFds)
I'm pretty sure it's 69.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at March 30, 2013 05:46 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: teej at March 30, 2013 05:46 PM (SFZtG)
Posted by: USS Diversity, only watching hoops this month at March 30, 2013 05:46 PM (+bZOu)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 30, 2013 05:47 PM (bxiXv)
Oh and I must I say I am enjoying this last day of the year before the Cubs are mathematically eliminated from contention for the World Series.
One year, when the 49ers sucked, as the opening kickoff of the season was in mid-air, some wag shouted, "Wait'll next year!"
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 30, 2013 05:48 PM (IDSI7)
The idea of him spending the rest of his life, 100 feet below the desert, in solitary confinement, for the rest of his life, makes me giddy.
No. If he's alive, some liberal twat will sooner or later want to turn him loose, and be in a position of power to do it. That possibility certainty will give him hope.
His ascending 13 steps, where his only hope is that the rope breaks ... that makes me giddy.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 30, 2013 05:51 PM (IDSI7)
They didn't execute the Blind Sheik, Abdul Rahman, and they didn't execute Ramsi Yusef. And they were responsible for killing a lot more. And they haven't executed Sheik Kahlid, who was the "mastermind" of the 9-11 terror attack.
Make me dictator of the universe. I'll sort out these oversights in the first hour of my rule.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 30, 2013 05:52 PM (IDSI7)
His ascending 13 steps, where his only hope is that the rope breaks ... that makes me giddy.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 30, 2013 09:51 PM (IDSI7)
they will grab some dork american organizer hanging out in their country trying to bring peace and empathy , , and use the dork for release of the terrorist
Posted by: willow at March 30, 2013 05:56 PM (nqBYe)
they will grab some dork american organizer hanging out in their country trying to bring peace and empathy , , and use the dork for release of the terrorist
Posted by: willow at March 30, 2013 09:56 PM (nqBYe)
Good point. We'll two ropes.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 30, 2013 05:58 PM (IDSI7)
I take it you are all familiar with the Greek tumble? We fuck you in the ass and demand demages.
Russian bond holders want their money!!
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at March 30, 2013 06:30 PM (V6dT4)
Congratulations! (or whatever is more appropriate)
Posted by: Deety at March 30, 2013 07:36 PM (jVk2G)
Posted by: Dirty Old Man at March 30, 2013 08:03 PM (L/BUh)
if you embraced the faith entire welcome home brother....
if reaffirming God bless and keep you.
Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 30, 2013 08:59 PM (LRFds)
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