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January 05, 2013

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— rdbrewer

Ace has been writing about the New Aristocracy lately, including a few posts about David Gregory waving around an illegal magazine on TV. Here is some contrast provided by the Washington Times, linked at Hot Air:

The Washington Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) inquiry into whether NBCÂ’s David Gregory possession on national TV of an illegal 30-round Â“high-capacityÂ” magazine has been ongoing for three weeks. Meanwhile, U.S. Army veteran James Brinkley is still grappling with the fallout from his arrest last year on the same charge.
. . .
Despite the evidence Mr. Brinkley had been legally transporting the gun, his attorney Richard Gardiner said the D.C. Office of the Attorney General Â“wouldnÂ’t drop it.Â” This is the same office now showing apparent reluctance to charge Mr. Gregory.
Mr. Brinkley refused to take a plea bargain and admit guilt, so the matter went to trial Dec. 4. The judge sided with Mr. Brinkley, saying he had met the burden of proof that he was legally transporting. Mr. Brinkley was found not guilty on all firearms-related charges, including for the Â“high-capacityÂ” magazines, and he was left with a $50 traffic ticket.
Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan told The Washington Times, Â“We feel it was a valid arrest, and the appropriate charges were brought.Â” Moments later, a spokesman for the D.C. attorney general's office, Ted Gest, called and provided the exact same quote. Mr. Gest added that, despite Mr. BrinkleyÂ’s acquittal, the ruling Â“doesnÂ’t mean the judge is right, and weÂ’re wrong.Â”

So we have a US attorney entrusted with the authority to enforce the laws equally who arguably abuses that discretion and goes after Mr. Brinkley, one of the Outs, while at the same ignoring the acts of Gregory, one of the Ins. Of course, he does this without regard to ethical consideration and to ingratiate himself with the Ins, with whom he would like to be associated. Right?

He is not unlike the IRS agent who breaks the rules and looks into neighbors' and friends' tax records, because it would be interesting to know how much money they make. Or the postal inspectors who spend the afternoon on the golf course and get a little red-faced when you jokingly voice surprise they spend their time off work together. Because they're not off work. Besides, maybe there is some postal crime on the 17th fairway. Or the regional FDIC field inspectors who drive to another city and also end up on the golf course, after which they spend five minutes on the property inspection, knowing they can fake a report from virtually nothing. Who is going to fire them for getting it wrong, causing the bank a headache, and costing the recipient of the loan potentially everything?

Or this guy.

What can you say? The natural tendency of people is to treat authority as power. The same thing that causes a person to rev a powerful motor at a stoplight or, in older days, to slap a horse with the reins while at the same time pulling back--to feel that surge of power--drives bureaucrats to abuse authority. People get a charge out of it. It makes them feel like masters of their domain. It's human nature.

This is why we're supposed to be a nation of laws and not men, by the way. It's why our country is based on a social contract that is, or should be, written in stone. People like to be unethical, evil. Which suggests a solution: Lawyers get tossed from the profession very quickly. There is a comprehensive written code of professional ethics lawyers must abide by. They study this code first in school and then throughout their careers. Lawyers also police themselves. They are required by the code to report the violations of other lawyers. It's an ethical violation not to.

There should be a similar Rules of Professional Conduct for government employees--and enforcement thereof--so that when someone complains about the US attorney's handling of a case, or, say, a snooping IRS neighbor, a bureaucrat who wastes public money drinking wine in a tub, or people who look up porn at work, the complaint is investigated aggressively and resolved quickly. Their due process rights are no different from or greater than a lawyer's. That would create an incentive for people who would otherwise give in to their evil urges.

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Posted by: rdbrewer at 02:10 PM | Comments (142)
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1 First? I've arrived!

Posted by: Chicagorefugee at January 05, 2013 02:13 PM (MbXOQ)

2 Finally, some eye candy for the ladies!

Posted by: derit at January 05, 2013 02:14 PM (I88Jc)

3 Even legal ethics aren't consistently enforced. Otherwise Zimmermann would not be facing 2nd degree murder charges, and tons of stupid DA hijinks in Florida. Same goes for Holder in the US Justice department. Laws only bind those who obey them and selective punishment means laws only apply to those who will be punished.

Posted by: Cackfinger at January 05, 2013 02:15 PM (CCHli)

4 We need to dismantle the federal Gov. and return 90% of everything they have FKD up to the states. America would recover in a year or less.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 05, 2013 02:15 PM (l86i3)

5 We'll see more and more of this in Post-Constitutional AmericaÂ©Â™

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 05, 2013 02:16 PM (hc3eM)

6 Lawyers get tossed from the profession only if they are dumb or unlucky enough to steal money, get arrested, or foul up in a public way (e.g. Mike Nifong of Duke Lacrosse fame). Otherwise, our guild does a pretty good job of protecting us.

Posted by: NomDeWeb at January 05, 2013 02:17 PM (8uJHs)

7 Lawyers get tossed from the profession only if they are dumb or unlucky enough to steal money, get arrested, or foul up in a public way

Exemption for Democrat politiians

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 05, 2013 02:18 PM (hc3eM)

8 6 Lawyers get tossed from the profession only if they are dumb or unlucky enough to steal money, get arrested, or foul up in a public way (e.g. Mike Nifong of Duke Lacrosse fame). Otherwise, our guild does a pretty good job of protecting us. Posted by: NomDeWeb at January 05, 2013 06:17 PM (8uJHs) No shit. Ever try to find an attorney willing to sue another one? The fat grey line is stronger than the thin blue one.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 05, 2013 02:19 PM (G6kli)

9 6 Lawyers get tossed from the profession only if they are dumb or unlucky enough to steal money, get arrested, or foul up in a public way (e.g. Mike Nifong of Duke Lacrosse fame). Otherwise, our guild does a pretty good job of protecting us. Posted by: NomDeWeb at January 05, 2013 06:17 PM (8uJHs) No shit. Ever try to find an attorney willing to sue another one? The fat grey line is stronger than the thin blue one.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 05, 2013 02:19 PM (G6kli)

10 Who is that douche bag in the tub?

Posted by: fluffy at January 05, 2013 02:22 PM (z9HTb)

11 5 We'll see more and more of this in Post-Constitutional AmericaÂ©Â™ Posted by: @PurpAv at January 05, 2013 06:16 PM (hc3eM) I never got the Constitutional love. Sure it sounded good, but if you were Black, Indian, a Woman, and Indentured servant or a White slave ( Irish and Scottish mainly) you had zero protections. Rich white guys wrote the Constitution to protect rich white guys from other Rich white guys. But hey, some people need the illusion of something greater and truer than themselves.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 05, 2013 02:23 PM (G6kli)

12 9 Who is that douche bag in the tub? Posted by: fluffy at January 05, 2013 06:22 PM (z9HTb) What your father in law said the first time he walked in on you bathing.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 05, 2013 02:23 PM (G6kli)

13 Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 05, 2013 06:23 PM (G6kli) ----- You realize that "the Constitution" includes the amendments, right? Including the 13th?

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 05, 2013 02:25 PM (b+8h9)

14 Mike Hunt, if an attorney wouldn't take your case against another attorney, it's likely a) s/he had a conflict of interest, or b) you had a piece of shit case.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 05, 2013 02:25 PM (Iyg03)

15 Apparently G6kli is the douchebag in the tub.

Posted by: GMan at January 05, 2013 02:25 PM (UkbKS)

16 "Lawyers get tossed from the profession very quickly." You are out of your mind. It's nearly impossible to get a lawyer tossed (at least in CA). I've seen all kinds of abuses get met with, at most, a private reproval.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 05, 2013 02:25 PM (oCZ5c)

17 Sure it sounded good, but if you were Black, Indian, a Woman, and Indentured servant or a White slave ( Irish and Scottish mainly) you had zero protections.

Dood, you're living like 150 years ago.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 05, 2013 02:26 PM (hc3eM)

18 "Is Mike Hunt in the parking lot?"

Posted by: SFGoth at January 05, 2013 02:26 PM (oCZ5c)

19 I never got the Constitutional love. Sure it sounded good, but if you were Black, Indian, a Woman, and Indentured servant or a White slave ( Irish and Scottish mainly) you had zero protections.

Oh come on. For starters, the rule of law. Second, the Civil War Amendments provided protections to minorities. It's not the Constitution's fault people then decided to ignore it. The same goes for Indians, c.f., Jackson's famous "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it" line. You can't blame that on the Constitution.

Posted by: AD at January 05, 2013 02:28 PM (4R+Nb)

20 SFGoth, I assume CA is like most other states, where you can't even fart upwind of another lawyer without answering to the bar.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 05, 2013 02:28 PM (Iyg03)

21 Who is that douche bag in the tub?
Posted by: fluffy at January 05, 2013 06:22 PM

Some guy who fucked up so royally he had to retire on his full pension, of course.

Posted by: huerfano at January 05, 2013 02:29 PM (bAGA/)

22 Lawyers are not public union members. They have to pretend.

Posted by: Truman North, boner expert at January 05, 2013 02:29 PM (I2LwF)

23 The guy in the tub is Jeffrey Neely: http://tinyurl.com/b458yf7

GSA man about town... um country.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 05, 2013 02:30 PM (Iyg03)

24 19 SFGoth, I assume CA is like most other states, where you can't even fart upwind of another lawyer without answering to the bar.
Posted by: rdbrewer

The CA bar mostly pushes the liberal agenda and PC-ness in the profession. Actually clamp down on dishonest and incompetent lawyers? Never heard of it.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 05, 2013 02:30 PM (oCZ5c)

25 I'm going to get in bed, watch football, and fall asleep. You're all welcome to come over and help.

Posted by: Truman North, boner expert at January 05, 2013 02:33 PM (I2LwF)

26 The Constitution of the United States of America is the greatest document ever written, period.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 05, 2013 02:33 PM (oCZ5c)

27 I've really never understood the difference between people who believe in a living Constitution and people who just don't believe in the rule of law. The difference seems to be one of degrees rather than principle. Mike, would you want to argue that?

Posted by: AD at January 05, 2013 02:33 PM (4R+Nb)

28 Remember, you guys. Bill Clinton couldn't even avoid getting tossed. And Michelle Obama was run out of the profession, IIRC.

Lawyers, unlike cops, medical doctors, public employees in general, and, well, most other people, hammer down on bad deeds.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 05, 2013 02:34 PM (Iyg03)

29 What your father in law said the first time he walked in on you bathing. Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 05, 2013 06:23 PM (G6kli) He said suck my dick, and you did faggot. That's yo story, not theres you little bitch. Let me splain somtin to u. Furst, FKN wit dees fine peepol pisses velet off. second, there is a ity bity dick sticking threw day hole over there. If yo lips aint on it, I'm taken off my belt you cock suckin pussy. Yo too stupid to be on AoS, you sorry cunt need to be sucken cock fo dollas, that's who you are, that's what you do. Some day when u be as good as yo momma, I give you a raise.

Posted by: Tyrone Velvet, proprietor, Tyrone's coin operated glory hole and transgendered chicken shack bar an at January 05, 2013 02:34 PM (l86i3)

30 see, I like what OSP said above - dismantle and devolve federal power to the states - for two reasons. First, it is a good idea. Second, because the libtards have not even considered it is possible this could happen. libtards have been assuming for years that everything was moving in their direction and it was really only a matter of speed; given the reasonable "rodney king" negotiating strategy and nature of the gop it is easy to see why they believed so. However, assembling and organizing a plan to not slow the libtards but roll their gains back, that is unanticipated.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2013 02:34 PM (Z9EHQ)

Hey RD,

You should submit this post over at the Volokh Conspiracy. I think an ethics complaint that holds lawyers up as a positive model might go over quite well.

Posted by: MikeW at January 05, 2013 02:34 PM (NmARk)

32 26 I've really never understood the difference between people who believe in a living Constitution and people who just don't believe in the rule of law. The difference seems to be one of degrees rather than principle. Mike, would you want to argue that? ---------- The former are hiding behind euphemism, the latter are awful but honest.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 05, 2013 02:35 PM (b+8h9)

I've really never understood the difference between people who believe in a living Constitution and people who just don't believe in the rule of law. The difference seems to be one of degrees rather than principle. Mike, would you want to argue that?

A living constitution allows you to prevent your opponants from fighting back.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 05, 2013 02:35 PM (o1kXv)

34 It is Game of Thrones, but with uglier people.

Posted by: Evil Blogger Lady at January 05, 2013 02:35 PM (XkmMw)

35 fukk yeah, we are the power! we need more control! you'uns are too dumb to live unsupervised and remember, us D's help the little people

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's bikini line holding back the gray curlies at January 05, 2013 02:36 PM (jfSqj)

36 I used to think this was a BS question (after all what does 'need' have to do with exercising rights) but do have a serious answer now -

Q: What do you "need" a thirty round magazine for?

A: David Gregory.

Posted by: Obamao at January 05, 2013 02:37 PM (JtyGg)

37 Posted by: Tyrone Velvet, proprietor, Tyrone's coin operated glory hole and transgendered chicken shack bar an at January 05, 2013 06:34 PM (l86i3) hey bro do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to? I like the cut of your jib.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's bikini line holding back the gray curlies at January 05, 2013 02:39 PM (jfSqj)

38 And some animals are more equal than others.

Yup, Gregory and everyone involved in that segment should be up on charges. Holder should be in jail. Choomy Mc'Obama and Clinton the Hildebeast should be answering to the public and the Congress for Benghazi.

All the things Leftists whined about Bush planning (not doing, just planning to do), have all come to fruition under Obama, and all those whiny voices are no longer complaining.

We need a very, very public case of someone being charged or arrested for what Gregory did, so they can ask why Gregory wasn't charged as well.

I hope all the Leftists are having a blast, the precedents being set by the JEF are going to bite them in the ass the next time a non-Dem (be it Repub or not) takes the White House and starts doing the same thing. I don't even think the blatantly partisan media will be able to help them, then.

Posted by: acethepug at January 05, 2013 02:39 PM (9OQgo)

39 Q: What do you "need" a thirty round magazine for?

A: see that story in headlines

Posted by: phreshone at January 05, 2013 02:39 PM (0SXI6)

40 I should add, what the Leftists CLAIMED Bush was planning. Basically, all the real and imagined abuses of power from Bush have been redoubled under Obama -- where is the outrage?

Oh, right, Democrat.

Posted by: acethepug at January 05, 2013 02:40 PM (9OQgo)

Brewer, because I have loudly cursed you as a horse's ass and still believe that to be the case, it is only cricket that I speak up when you have done well. As you have again today.

However, this: "Lawyers also police themselves." is contrary to my experience. YMMV.

Again, though, well said. Dick.

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 05, 2013 02:42 PM (r5w1L)

42 I need a 30 rd mag. because I am a lousy shot.

Posted by: navybrat at January 05, 2013 02:44 PM (BzGtc)

Rich white guys wrote the Constitution to protect rich white guys from other Rich white guys.

That is quite possibly the singular, most stupid statement I have heard...lately. The amount of logical thought and passionionate, persuasive argument that went into creating the declaration of independence and the subsequent constitution eclipse any amount of vitriol and drivel that is passed as "political debate" these days. It has affected entire continents (for the better) and has inspired millions ever since.

Posted by: crotchetyoldjarhead at January 05, 2013 02:44 PM (ssWGZ)

44 I need a 100 round barrel cause fuck you thats why.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 05, 2013 02:45 PM (l86i3)

45 anyone here know how to send an email in gmail to a list without disclosing everyone's email?

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2013 02:46 PM (Z9EHQ)

46 Government employees need to be held to the ethical standard of... lawyers?

Seriously?

You don't know many lawyers, do you?

Posted by: JohnJ at January 05, 2013 02:46 PM (Tt6ky)

47 Also I know a lot of lawyers. A lot. Related to some.
This whole bit about them policing themselves is a nice bit of comfortable fiction. They police themselves only when there is no other choice.

Posted by: navybrat at January 05, 2013 02:46 PM (BzGtc)

48 anyone here know how to send an email in gmail to a list without disclosing everyone's email? Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2013 06:46 PM (Z9EHQ) I think you have to load them manually and use BCC, Blind Carbon Copy.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 05, 2013 02:47 PM (l86i3)

49 Okay, question, which is worse: A woman who flirts with you for a couple hours and lets you buy her drinks only to say "btw, my boyfriend..." as you're getting ready to leave or a troll who teases you with the prospect of a great flame war only to get whacked and scared off easily?

Disappointing. Damn disappointing.

Posted by: AD at January 05, 2013 02:47 PM (4R+Nb)

50 >>Q: What do you "need" a thirty round magazine for?<<

Believe it or not, Ace was making the same argument here a couple of years back

Posted by: Albie Damned at January 05, 2013 02:48 PM (Yhu4q)

51 It's not the Constitution's fault people then decided to ignore it.

Indeed. All the "civil rights" stuff in the 60's was largely instigated by lax enforcement of the US Constitution. No new legislation was technically required as those "rights" were intrinsic. The legislation was just eyewash for the rubes.

What was required was hardass enforcement against the racist southern Democrats.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 05, 2013 02:48 PM (hc3eM)

52 I think you have to load them manually and use BCC, Blind Carbon Copy. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 05, 2013 06:47 PM (l86i3) that is what I was afraid of, thanks.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2013 02:48 PM (Z9EHQ)

53 Q: What do you "need" a thirty round magazine for? A: because they are legal, just like Abortions and I want one

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's bikini line holding back the gray curlies at January 05, 2013 02:49 PM (jfSqj)

54 Thanks, Sponge.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 05, 2013 02:49 PM (Iyg03)

55 Government employees need to be held to the ethical standard of... lawyers?

I'd settle for used car salesmen ethics. Even that would be a big upgrade.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 05, 2013 02:50 PM (hc3eM)

What do I need a thirty round mag for?

Whatever I please.

Rights are not based on need.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 05, 2013 02:51 PM (jTKU5)

57 Remember, these elitists tell us in NY Slimes op-eds that the Constitution is in their way, and most rights would be granted anyway because they're such nice wonderful people.

If any one of them ever loses everything they have in wealth, I'll tell kids to throw rocks at them while they're sleeping on a park bench.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 05, 2013 02:51 PM (wwsoB)

58 Also I know a lot of lawyers. A lot. Related to some. This whole bit about them policing themselves is a nice bit of comfortable fiction. They police themselves only when there is no other choice. Posted by: navybrat at January 05, 2013 06:46 PM (BzGtc) Most lawyers are whores, they follow the money. There is an intrinsic beliefe that because they can fuck you over with their actual or percieved skills, they can do what they want. There are so many lawyers now it may take a pol pot style correction.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 05, 2013 02:51 PM (l86i3)

59 A professional code of conduct only applies to people who work in fields where life and death is determined by how much you value your own and your teammates' lives.

Posted by: Fritz at January 05, 2013 02:52 PM (w3+gB)

60 ...some people need the illusion of something greater and truer than themselves.

Yeah, guilty. And for some people, that's the Constitution, and for others who aren't willing to admit it, it's Das Kapital. Pretty tight Venn diagram on that, too. Somebody who fancies himself an outlier just dropped in, but he's not done with his education yet. A fellow-traveller is going to enlighten him.

Some East Coast columnist set the timer on this meme-bomb last week. Expect a lot of omigosh! I can still shock my parents! critiques of the Constitution soon. All part of the plan, and most of them don't know there is even a plan.

Meh, useful idiots. They were fresh and new once. My dad's 90, and they bore him. Been around his whole life.

Posted by: comatus at January 05, 2013 02:52 PM (qaVK+)

61 that is what I was afraid of, thanks. Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2013 06:48 PM (Z9EHQ) Oh goodness, don't take my advice as gospel, I'm just telling you what I would do.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 05, 2013 02:53 PM (l86i3)

62 Not going to quote Mike Hunt.

I suggest we have a list of trolls on the main page, so that we know who to completely ignore. I suggest we start with this guy, the fellow with the most clever name ever...not.

Posted by: Mr_Write at January 05, 2013 02:55 PM (CLkAH)

63 If that is supposed to be eye-candy, I need eye wash.

Hey OSP, book is about 40 miles away.

As for gist of post, Orwell again. "Some are created more equal than others." Rousseau is a criminal fraud.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 05, 2013 02:55 PM (HXcdb)

64 that is what I was afraid of, thanks. Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2013 06:48 PM (Z9EHQ) I don't use gmail, but couldn't you put them in the to line then copy/past them in the BCC? not going to unsock this is a mutha fukka of a sock

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's bikini line holding back the gray curlies at January 05, 2013 02:55 PM (jfSqj)

65 Just back from setting up for tonight's rock show. Clubowner freaking (happily) over the number of people who have called to reserve tables. Got a gal friend bringing 40 to celebrate her birthday, and another bringing 20.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 05, 2013 02:56 PM (jTKU5)

66 Also I know a lot of lawyers. A lot. Related to some...

Ask them some time why the hell they, lawyers, are so damned cocky to us laymen what "The Law" says when anyone of serious means can take it to the SCOTUS where just just 5 of 9 guys in black dresses decides who wins (and every legal pundit forever argues the merits of each side) - might as well flip a quarter.

Posted by: Obamao at January 05, 2013 02:57 PM (JtyGg)

55
What do I need a thirty round mag for?

...When an angry flash mob shows up at your address.

...When the power grid goes down, and the hunger games begin.

...When a crowd of people gets "angry about a video" and decides to attack your home.

Posted by: wheatie at January 05, 2013 02:57 PM (dC04t)

68 The Constitution is the greatest document of law and governance that has ever been and will ever be written.

4000 words on 11 pages and containing seven articles and one Bill of Rights is a masterpiece of pure common sense.

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 05, 2013 02:57 PM (zOP5o)

69 Hey OSP, book is about 40 miles away. As for gist of post, Orwell again. "Some are created more equal than others." Rousseau is a criminal fraud. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 05, 2013 06:55 PM (HXcdb) Hi AP, please don't be disappointed. I'm not an author, not like you or others on here that can actually write. It's a story, a good story and in many cases a true story. But a writer I am not. But thank you.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 05, 2013 02:58 PM (l86i3)

70 Is Mike Hunt a regular troll like soothsayer or a drive-by asshole who needs to be banned?

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 05, 2013 02:58 PM (Iyg03)

71 This Mike Hunt guy is my kind of guy, reminds me of me but of course I am a sleezy scummy sack of shit but I am a rich sleezy scummy sack of shit. Give me a big kiss Mike Hunt, I am your Gore-bot forever!

Posted by: Man-Pig-Bear at January 05, 2013 02:59 PM (Oi60j)

72 61 Not going to quote Mike Hunt.

I suggest we have a list of trolls on the main page, so that we know who to completely ignore. I suggest we start with this guy, the fellow with the most clever name ever...not.

Posted by: Mr_Write at January 05, 2013 06:55 PM (CLkAH)

See, I'm perfectly amenable to having trolls around. Flame wars can be fun and are a way to keep your arguments sharp (or at least update your insults). In fact, one of the few flaws with this site is that all the great trolls have disappeared.

Teasing you with a flamewar and then being too gutless to follow through, though, should be a bannable offense.

Posted by: AD at January 05, 2013 02:59 PM (4R+Nb)

73 Gee! I am surprised that the Secret Service took time off of their surveillance at "The Good Guys Club" to comment on the story.

Posted by: Michael J. Bilek at January 05, 2013 02:59 PM (3pLbI)

74 ...When a crowd of people gets "angry about a video" and decides to attack your home.

THAT is a pretty good one too.

Posted by: Obamao at January 05, 2013 02:59 PM (JtyGg)

75 who the fuck is (0SXI6) ?

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's bikini line holding back the gray curlies at January 05, 2013 03:00 PM (jfSqj)

76 I think if this poll trending continues, Axelrod will rehire Greg the Poll Troll

Gallup's latest shows Obullshit back down to 50 percent

http://tinyurl.com/cy4vv9

As of 12/17 - Approve 56 % Disapprove 37 %

As of 1/3/13 - Approve 50% Disapprove 43 %

Posted by: kbdabear at January 05, 2013 03:00 PM (wwsoB)

77 Aaawww aint OSP awesome. Show him one short story and he thinks I am a writer. Thanks for the encouragement and you are all good with me.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 05, 2013 03:00 PM (HXcdb)

78 The Bill Clinton example of him getting disbarred actually illustrates my prior point. He was disbarred only because it was the only recourse after his very public testimony. No other choice.

Posted by: navybrat at January 05, 2013 03:00 PM (BzGtc)

79 Is Mike Hunt a regular troll like soothsayer or a drive-by asshole who needs to be banned? Posted by: rdbrewer at January 05, 2013 06:58 PM (Iyg03) The Bitch is busy sukin dick fo dollas, u don't worry bout him. He come back, I'm taken off my belt.

Posted by: Tyrone Velvet, proprietor, Tyrone's coin operated glory hole and transgendered chicken shack bar an at January 05, 2013 03:00 PM (l86i3)

80 If someone is going to ask why I need a 30rd magazine, can I ask the likes of Jay Leno why he needs all those neat cars?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 05, 2013 03:02 PM (HXcdb)

81 69 Is Mike Hunt a regular troll like soothsayer or a drive-by asshole who needs to be banned?
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 05, 2013 06:58 PM

It's been around a lot lately, I think it's either gerg, ergie, average joe, or raykon under a new sock

Trolling style most similar to raykon

Posted by: kbdabear at January 05, 2013 03:02 PM (wwsoB)

82 But hey, some people need the illusion of something greater and truer than themselves.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 05, 2013 06:23 PM (G6kli)

And some people think nothing could be greater and truer than themselves.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 05, 2013 03:02 PM (jTKU5)

83 oldsailor have some confidence man!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 12th day of Christmas at January 05, 2013 03:02 PM (GVxQo)

84 Are you a leftist and is somebody breaking into your home?

Call a journalist

Posted by: kbdabear at January 05, 2013 03:03 PM (wwsoB)

85 i'm glad they aren't worried about my 33 round clip....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 12th day of Christmas at January 05, 2013 03:03 PM (GVxQo)

86 magazine

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 12th day of Christmas at January 05, 2013 03:03 PM (GVxQo)

87 Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 12th day of Christmas at January 05, 2013 07:02 PM (GVxQo) I am confident that a good story will carry my pathetic writing or I would not have even attempted it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 05, 2013 03:03 PM (l86i3)

88 bullet holder thingy

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 12th day of Christmas at January 05, 2013 03:03 PM (GVxQo)

89 bullet retention gadget?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 05, 2013 03:04 PM (HXcdb)

90 bullet holder thingy Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 12th day of Christmas at January 05, 2013 07:03 PM (GVxQo) LOL

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 05, 2013 03:04 PM (l86i3)

91 anna that was waaaaaaay to precise.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 12th day of Christmas at January 05, 2013 03:05 PM (GVxQo)

92 bullet holder thingy Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 12th day of Christmas at January 05, 2013 07:03 PM (GVxQo) they are SCARY, forget the crazed assh*le actually pulling the trigger

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's bikini line holding back the gray curlies at January 05, 2013 03:05 PM (jfSqj)

93 bullet holder thingy The hickey do that hangs off the bang stick.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 05, 2013 03:06 PM (l86i3)

94 PG, hanging out with ORD too long.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 05, 2013 03:06 PM (HXcdb)

95 Hey! That Mike Hunt YoYo is all mine, I have a special place for him under Barky's bus.

Posted by: Man-Pig-Bear at January 05, 2013 03:06 PM (Oi60j)

96 I think we should start referring to magazines as bullet clutches or ammunition MinaudiÃ¨res. get more of the moronettes in on the game.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2013 03:06 PM (Z9EHQ)

97 Gonna drink and watch Football, be back later. *kiss Kiss*

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 05, 2013 03:07 PM (l86i3)

98 anna & oldsailor lol to both of you

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 12th day of Christmas at January 05, 2013 03:07 PM (GVxQo)

99 I want full auto

Posted by: occam at January 05, 2013 03:08 PM (/6iYk)

100 magazine Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 12th day of Christmas at January 05, 2013 07:03 PM (GVxQo) A diversionary devise, to focus on magazines rather than we are broke and going to get broker

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's beaver pelt at January 05, 2013 03:08 PM (jfSqj)

101 No one got my Mike Hunt joke? I'm verklempt.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 05, 2013 03:09 PM (oCZ5c)

102 Full auto = waste of ammo due to recoil ruining the aim. Unless you are braced and then you might as well be a light machine gun.

Aimed measured fire can decimate an attacking force far faster than an MS-13 gang-banger named Achmed doing Spray and Pray with his Kel-Tec.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 05, 2013 03:09 PM (HXcdb)

103 Bullet papoose, a vital cultural artifact of the American race.

Posted by: derit at January 05, 2013 03:10 PM (I88Jc)

104 Full auto = waste of ammo due to recoil ruining the aim. Unless you are braced and then you might as well be a light machine gun. Aimed measured fire can decimate an attacking force far faster than an MS-13 gang-banger named Achmed doing Spray and Pray with his Kel-Tec. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 05, 2013 07:09 PM (HXcdb) well, I agree with you for handhelds but I want a ma deuce mounted on the roof, maybe something in a minigun.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2013 03:11 PM (Z9EHQ)

105 Bloody bunch of Yank wankers! We are your royalty, and I am your Queen! Bow peasants!

Posted by: Piers Morgan at January 05, 2013 03:11 PM (wwsoB)

106 hey where did everyone go I'm so LONELY!

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's beaver pelt at January 05, 2013 03:12 PM (jfSqj)

107 Derit for the nomenclature win!

Y5, get a surplus M-163.

And new thread!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 05, 2013 03:12 PM (HXcdb)

108 Full auto is useful for close-in work. The German submachine guns in WWII were pretty awe-inspiring.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 05, 2013 03:13 PM (oCZ5c)

109 One of the great buried news stories of our time is how the mob was responsible for getting Chicago's gun banned implemented.

They controlled City Hall and the cops...and the only ones who were in their way were the ordinary citizens.

Google the name Fred Roti

Posted by: Albie Damned at January 05, 2013 03:13 PM (Yhu4q)

110 104 Bloody bunch of Yank wankers! We are your royalty, and I am your Queen! Bow peasants!

Posted by: Piers Morgan at January 05, 2013 07:11 PM (wwsoB)

Even I hate your stupid ass!

Posted by: Man-Pig-Bear at January 05, 2013 03:13 PM (Oi60j)

111 Speaking of unequal protection....under the culture variant...just saw a commercial...portrait in the background was of the actor, wearing a coonskin hat ("King of the Wild Frontier") in a suit of armor ("Warts and all"). The marker is clear, it is the intent that is questionable.

Posted by: Y. at January 05, 2013 03:14 PM (QcOcJ)

112 SFGoth, might as well quote the use of the Uzi and MP7/MP-7 instead of the WWII MP-40

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 05, 2013 03:15 PM (HXcdb)

113 Anna, right on with the Leno comment. Whenever anyone asks that rock-stupif "what do you need" question, do exactly that. Use Choomy's own comments.

At some point, you've earned enough money. That was it, right? While he racks up millions on the public's back for his damn vacations?

Do you really need that luxury car? That summer or winter home? That many shoes/rings/necklaces/whathaveyou?

Well past time to make the morally bankrupt Left live up to THEIR damn rules.

Alinsky the hell out of them.

Posted by: acethepug at January 05, 2013 03:17 PM (9OQgo)

114

87bullet holder thingy

Muzzies?

Posted by: Cicero at January 05, 2013 03:17 PM (b1VIZ)

115 One of the great buried news stories of our time is how the mob was responsible for getting Chicago's gun banned implemented.

They controlled City Hall and the cops...and the only ones who were in their way were the ordinary citizens.

Google the name Fred Roti

Posted by: Albie Damned at January 05, 2013 07:13 PM (Yhu4q)

Well, if anybody on our side is competent at all, this will become much better known over the next couple months...

I have no confidence in that happening whatsoever.

Posted by: AD at January 05, 2013 03:17 PM (4R+Nb)

116 And the irony of me misspelling "stupid" is not lost on me

Into the barrel I go.

Posted by: acethepug at January 05, 2013 03:18 PM (9OQgo)

117 I don't need full auto but I have a right to it

Posted by: occam at January 05, 2013 03:22 PM (/6iYk)

118 I need a 30 rd mag. because I am a lousy shot.

I'm luck I found the first one. You want me to stop and find another magazine while I'm shooting?

Posted by: DaveA at January 05, 2013 03:24 PM (yxEzV)

119 116 I don't need full auto but I have a right to it Posted by: occam at January 05, 2013 07:22 PM

I assume you have a dick but you never have occasion to use it.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 05, 2013 03:25 PM (wwsoB)

120 anyone here know how to send an email in gmail to a list without disclosing everyone's email? Posted by: yankeefifth

maybe a repeat by now but gmail has cc (carbon copy) and bcc (blind cc) buttons.

Posted by: DaveA at January 05, 2013 03:25 PM (yxEzV)

121 more gmail

You can goto contacts select a bunch and label them then use the label as an address

Posted by: DaveA at January 05, 2013 03:27 PM (yxEzV)

122 Anyone think Obama is really going for the brass ring of gun control? If so, I was completely wrong thinking the left would scream like mad, act like they were going to go all mega gun-control, then slip through something partial which we'd go along with because it was so much better than the plans they were shrieking about. But our Dear Leader seems to be changing that game plan. Considering the fastest growing demographic for gun purchases, is he really going for major/huge/ground-breaking control measures? Or is it another feint? He's so narcissistic that he constantly surprises me - even when I think I'm expecting the worst.

Posted by: Pentangle at January 05, 2013 03:35 PM (Rd9OZ)

123

Speaking as an IRS revenue agent, it's almost impossible to "snoop" on other people's accounts without getting caught and almost certainly fired. In my circumstances, I'm not authorized to use the program that accesses taxpayer accounts and don't want it to ensure I never, even accidentally, gain access to an unauthorized account.

In contrast the government attorney here is using his judgment to determine whom to prosecute and whom not to. In my opinion he or his superiors have exhibited gross lack of judgment.

Posted by: Elmer Stoup at January 05, 2013 03:36 PM (PxEda)

124

"In my opinion he or his superiors have exhibited gross lack of judgment."

Sounds to me like a "mag-in" would be a nice answer. A few hundred people carrying the dreaded mags in public.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 05, 2013 03:41 PM (jTKU5)

125 I need a 30 rd mag. because I am a lousy shot.

Because 57 would be excessive and 43 doesn't sound right.

Posted by: DaveA at January 05, 2013 03:43 PM (yxEzV)

126 From the Wiki page of Chicago made man/alderman Fred Roti...

"Roti's legacy lives on through the many people he got on the city of Chicago's payroll.^[8] Two other Roti accomplishments deserve mention. First, Alderman Roti led the fight for Chicago's handgun ban in Chicago's City Council, and second, Roti was instrumental in getting the Chicago Outfit's main plant, William Hanhardt, now a convicted jewel thief, due to be released from prison in 2012, in the position of Chief of Detectives"

Posted by: Albie Damned at January 05, 2013 03:45 PM (Yhu4q)

127 >>>>Most lawyers are whores, they follow the money. There is an intrinsic beliefe that because they can fuck you over with their actual or percieved skills, they can do what they want. There are so many lawyers now it may take a pol pot style correction. Yikes. Tough crowd in here tonight.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2013 03:54 PM (ehEyA)

128 Re: 121 A few hours ago, while I was doing the looky-lou at Academy Sports, a early 40ish, normal, middle class black lady was fingering the Rossi .38. Not as in lockstep as we were led to believe. So much the better. Speaking of Chief of Detectives, anybody remember the old Raymond Burr TV show with him in a wheelchair...yeah...

Posted by: Y. at January 05, 2013 03:59 PM (QcOcJ)

129 >>>Speaking as an IRS revenue agent, it's almost impossible to "snoop" on other people's accounts without getting caught and almost certainly fired.

Elmer, I've mentioned this before in comments. This was in the 90's, and the person in question had the ability to use a friend's open terminal.

In fact, that's how they all did it. Use someone else's terminal, and there's no connection to you.

It's easy to see how things could have changed since then.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 05, 2013 04:03 PM (Iyg03)

130 Or Like Timmy Geithner, who doesn't pay his taxes along with half the rats in DC

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at January 05, 2013 04:24 PM (APrEV)

131 I have a few gun owning ass acquaintances that have told me no-one needs a 30 round clip.
I tell them no-one needs a corvette, a camero, or two putters either.
One answered, but the theater shooter in CO had a 90 round drum mag. I told him yea and the damn thing jammed as they are notorious for doing else with 9 ten round clips he could have wasted a few more and had the theater allowed ConcealedKerry he would be dead as Treyvon

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at January 05, 2013 04:30 PM (APrEV)

132 I look forward to Obama and his minions' efforts to enforce his royal gun ban.

Bravery is not a known liberal trait.

Posted by: T.Hunter - laisser brûler at January 05, 2013 04:39 PM (EZl54)

133 The things that everyone fails to mention about the Gregory offense is that he would not be the only one guilty. There are undoubtedly several people on his production team who are also guilty. The might even be subject to a conspiracy or racketeering charge since a whole organization conspired to break the law. They even phoned in their intention to do so. That may explain some of the reluctance to investigate (as if any investigation is necessary since the offense was broadcast on national TV).

I would have given my left nut for whoever Gregory was interviewing to pull out his cell and call the police right in the middle of the interview to report the crime. That would have been sweet, sweet irony (and squirrel justice).

Also, if the Republicans were not totally damn worthless they would promise to prosecute Gregory once they are in power as long as the statute of limitations has not run out. That would put even more pressure on for charges to be brought while the Dems can still be sure Gregory is treated lightly.

Gregory needs to be made an example of. It is a cultural civil war and no methods are off the table. That is the lesson Obama has taught us.

Posted by: Voluble at January 05, 2013 04:40 PM (qYvEa)

134 "Which suggests a solution: Lawyers get tossed from the profession very quickly. There is a comprehensive written code of professional ethics lawyers must abide by. They study this code first in school and then throughout their careers. Lawyers also police themselves. They are required by the code to report the violations of other lawyers. It's an ethical violation not to."

You must be very naive, or a lawyer yourself to seriously believe that horseshit.

Posted by: elliot at January 05, 2013 05:06 PM (blkVM)

135 To cull lawyers forget contingency and enshrine Loser Pays. Also repeal sovereign immunity for school districts in pederasty cases. There is could be justice for kids abused in public schools too.

Posted by: DM at January 05, 2013 06:15 PM (LaKlJ)

136 How many of those three million perm unemployed are even trying to find work? I saw a program a couple weeks ago (Stossel?), and the show's producers found almost 30 places hiring within three blocks of the unemployment office. Almost all had minimum required quals and paid $8-12 an hour to start. They even tried to direct several of the 'unemployed' to these jobs, but were met with an unending chain of excuses. The 'safety net' has become a hammock.

Posted by: Icedog at January 05, 2013 06:44 PM (9ScGj)

137 That Raymond Burr series was Ironside. Pretty good series back in the day.

Posted by: RM at January 05, 2013 08:11 PM (ixDYs)

138 Moving around the discussion about attornies policing themselves, I'm interested in the idea of government employees being subject to a strict code of ethics. In my experience they are pretty remorseless and inflexible about enforcement of whatever rules that they have any power relating to. I don't know how this type code could be enforced without hiring even more govt. employees and creating yet another bureaucracy, but I like the idea of them having the same swords dangling over them that they seem to relish dangling over others.

Posted by: RM at January 05, 2013 08:19 PM (ixDYs)

139 FREE DAVID GREGORY NOW!!! Prosecution UNJUST! OUTRAGEOUS TREATMENT! FREE DAVID GREGORY NOW!!

Posted by: theBuckWheat at January 06, 2013 04:35 AM (hBb5u)

140 What do I need a thirty round mag for? What does Hustler mag need 30 pages for?

Posted by: theBuckWheat at January 06, 2013 04:37 AM (hBb5u)

141 "Mr. Gest added that, despite Mr. BrinkleyÂ’s acquittal, the ruling 'doesnÂ’t mean the judge is right, and weÂ’re wrong.'" Isn't he calling into question the entire basis of the right to a trial? His point apparently being that only convictions are correct. "Stupid poopyhead judge!" Isn't his statement, coming from an officer of the court, actionable contempt?

Posted by: Chas C-Q at January 06, 2013 06:03 AM (4Mzrt)

142 Final thought: what if it had been LaPierre to hold up the empty magazine? What would Kurtz and company be saying then? Case closed.

Posted by: Crispian at January 06, 2013 11:36 AM (+qU9V)

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