January 25, 2013
— Ace Great piece. It's partly about guns, partly about everything.
Karl Marx summed up Communism as “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.” This is a good, pithy saying, which, in practice, has succeeded in bringing, upon those under its sway, misery, poverty, rape, torture, slavery, and death.‘In announcing his gun control proposals, President Obama said that he was not restricting Second Amendment rights, but allowing other constitutional rights to flourish.’
For the saying implies but does not name the effective agency of its supposed utopia. The agency is called “The State,” and the motto, fleshed out, for the benefit of the easily confused must read “The State will take from each according to his ability: the State will give to each according to his needs.” “Needs and abilities” are, of course, subjective. So the operative statement may be reduced to “the State shall take, the State shall give.”
All of us have had dealings with the State, and have found, to our chagrin, or, indeed, terror, that we were not dealing with well-meaning public servants or even with ideologues but with overworked, harried bureaucrats. These, as all bureaucrats, obtain and hold their jobs by complying with directions and suppressing the desire to employ initiative, compassion, or indeed, common sense. They are paid to follow orders.
Rule by bureaucrats and functionaries is an example of the first part of the Marxist equation: that the Government shall determine the individualÂ’s abilities.
As rules by the Government are one-size-fits-all, any governmental determination of an individualÂ’s abilities must be based on a bureaucratic assessment of the lowest possible denominator. The government, for example, has determined that black people (somehow) have fewer abilities than white people, and, so, must be given certain preferences. Anyone acquainted with both black and white people knows this assessment is not only absurd but monstrous. And yet it is the law.
President Obama, in his reelection campaign, referred frequently to the “needs” of himself and his opponent, alleging that each has more money than he “needs.”
But where in the Constitution is it written that the Government is in charge of determining “needs”? And note that the president did not say “I have more money than I need,” but “You and I have more than we need.” Who elected him to speak for another citizen?
It is not the constitutional prerogative of the Government to determine needs.
He gets into guns on the back nine.
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Posted by: RUReadingthis at January 25, 2013 09:35 AM (V92KK)
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 25, 2013 09:35 AM (R4Bz0)
Posted by: Fritz at January 25, 2013 09:39 AM (/ZZCn)
Posted by: Jeff B. at January 25, 2013 09:42 AM (OQZWo)
Posted by: Barry Soetoro at January 25, 2013 09:42 AM (Cm5S0)
Where Did Piers Morgan Come From, Anyway?
http://tinyurl.com/bclg2cy
Posted by: kbdabear at January 25, 2013 09:43 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Jeff B. at January 25, 2013 09:43 AM (OQZWo)
Posted by: Zharkov at January 25, 2013 09:43 AM (wqmQt)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 25, 2013 09:43 AM (xz0nG)
Welcome to the Gulag Welcome Center, Sir. May I have all of your belongings, please? Your gruel cup is next to the toilet.
Posted by: Old Man as Greeter at January 25, 2013 09:44 AM (ndlFj)
Posted by: My GF has big boobies at January 25, 2013 09:44 AM (F6KtL)
Posted by: t-bird at January 25, 2013 09:45 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Jeff B. at January 25, 2013 09:45 AM (OQZWo)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 09:45 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: John Smith at January 25, 2013 09:46 AM (Dll6b)
Cause we can't have a small almost victory for more than a few hours?
Posted by: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain at January 25, 2013 09:47 AM (bj+Nc)
Posted by: Red Shirt at January 25, 2013 09:47 AM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 25, 2013 09:48 AM (JMYH3)
Posted by: EC at January 25, 2013 09:50 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Jeff B. at January 25, 2013 01:42 PM (OQZWo)
Go you huskies!
Spartan may be one of the most cynical and brilliant takes on how politicians really work that I've seen.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 25, 2013 09:50 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 25, 2013 09:51 AM (xjpRj)
Posted by: Lord Obama the Great Fuck Up at January 25, 2013 09:53 AM (F6KtL)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 25, 2013 09:54 AM (l86i3)
24...Please please please go for their guns!!!
Even BJ Clinton said "ix-nay on the gun control push", and tried to warn them.
He signed Feinstein's gun ban Bill back in 1993...and the Dems lost both Houses of Congress in 1994.
Even if it doesn't get passed this time, I think the damage is done.
It will be an issue in next year's midterms either way.
Posted by: wheatie at January 25, 2013 09:54 AM (fH4X9)
Posted by: Diane Feinstein at January 25, 2013 09:54 AM (XvHmy)
It is reminding everyone how much power the donks want to use and how little they regard the rulebook.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 25, 2013 09:54 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: NYC Parent at January 25, 2013 09:55 AM (8GA+4)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 25, 2013 09:56 AM (evdj2)
But, if we ever get a Republican president again, how the left will howl when he determines what their needs are.
Posted by: Marmo at January 25, 2013 09:56 AM (QW+AD)
What I got from the whole article was that he was specifically abstaining- because no one has the right to determine what another needs- from saying that no one needs automatic weapons.
That is, he, specifically, agrees that no one "needs" them in the same way that he agrees that no one "needs" $1bn.
I also disagree with him, but I'm fine with him being wrong so long as he acknowledges he has no right or position which allows him to oppose that opinion on me.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 09:57 AM (8y9MW)
That's why I think we need divorce, and I think the way to get it is by using the Mexican immigrants.
Just my opinion.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 25, 2013 09:57 AM (LRFds)
Describes my frustrating career with the State to a tee. We used to say, "If the commies ever take over, we will know how to act."
That job really turned me into a conservative.
Posted by: pj at January 25, 2013 09:58 AM (ZWaLo)
Posted by: Stuff George Orwell Said for $100 [/i] at January 25, 2013 09:58 AM (feFL6)
He wrote The Untouchables FFS. He coined the phrase "The Chicago Way."
"In Roman times, when a when a fellow was convicted of trying to bribe a public official, they would cut off his nose, and sew him in a bag with a wild animal, and throw him in a river." Tell your master I will see him in Hell.
Posted by: comatus at January 25, 2013 09:59 AM (qaVK+)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 25, 2013 09:59 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: L, elle at January 25, 2013 10:00 AM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 25, 2013 10:00 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 25, 2013 10:00 AM (CfTYs)
Posted by: TexasJew at January 25, 2013 10:00 AM (lD8ju)
It was kinda fun seeing Kostner get smacked around by reality in the flick.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 25, 2013 10:01 AM (ccXZP)
Just don't read the comments. The article is good.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 10:02 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Roy at January 25, 2013 10:02 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: t-bird at January 25, 2013 10:02 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Barack from Downtown at January 25, 2013 10:04 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Red Shirt at January 25, 2013 10:04 AM (FIDMq)
Posted by: occam's styptic pencil at January 25, 2013 10:04 AM (evdj2)
Not with Mooch's dick, I'd say.
("You are worthress Arec Barrwin!")
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs an intervention at January 25, 2013 10:04 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 25, 2013 10:04 AM (QxSug)
Stoning apostates! It's not just for Muslims anymore!
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs an intervention at January 25, 2013 10:04 AM (ZKzrr)
SR is another bitter clinger.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 25, 2013 10:05 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Federal Judge Mel Gibson at January 25, 2013 10:06 AM (e0xKF)
Ammo is for elitists ONLY
Do you think I'm fucking with you? I'm not
Posted by: Barack from Downtown at January 25, 2013 02:04 PM (wwsoB)
If I put lil' Ammo down, I could type with two hands.
Posted by: Ammo Dump at January 25, 2013 10:06 AM (YYyqq)
Posted by: awkward davies at January 25, 2013 10:07 AM (USjX1)
Posted by: L, elle at January 25, 2013 10:07 AM (0PiQ4)
Is everyone who reads that site a total fucknut?
Posted by: Kensington at January 25, 2013 10:07 AM (H84UO)
Posted by: Phinn at January 25, 2013 10:08 AM (m7mrm)
Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 25, 2013 10:08 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at January 25, 2013 10:09 AM (uhftQ)
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 25, 2013 10:09 AM (ccXZP)
"On a lower level of abstraction, there are more than 2 million instances a year of the armed citizen deterring or stopping armed criminals; a number four times that of all crimes involving firearms. "
*****
Does anybody know a link for this citation from the Mamet article?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 25, 2013 10:10 AM (1OZSU)
Posted by: t-bird at January 25, 2013 10:10 AM (FcR7P)
If Bush and Cheney are just oil whores, isn't Alec Baldwin just a Hollywood whore?
Posted by: Kensington at January 25, 2013 10:10 AM (H84UO)
The Federalist #46 addresses this directly. I don't know any better argument for the gun grab that is going on now.
Posted by: polynikes at January 25, 2013 10:11 AM (m2CN7)
What? Lovely twisted logic from Comrade Chairman Barry
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 25, 2013 10:11 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: thunderb at January 25, 2013 10:11 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 25, 2013 10:12 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: awkward davies at January 25, 2013 10:12 AM (USjX1)
Posted by: eman at January 25, 2013 10:12 AM (jp2Ur)
Posted by: Heralder at January 25, 2013 10:12 AM (+xmn4)
Posted by: t-bird at January 25, 2013 10:13 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale
To be precise, he is the Hawaiian sub-specie; the Choomacabra.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 25, 2013 10:13 AM (xz0nG)
http://tinyurl.com/bclg2cy
Posted by: kbdabear at January 25, 2013 01:43 PM
That was a good read. I liked his overall point of Morgan whore's himself out to the highest bidder and we should not take his bait and give him undue publicity. Morgan loves publicity no matter how seedy.
Posted by: Cheri at January 25, 2013 10:13 AM (G+Wff)
I'd like to see one of the cob-loggers do a post quoting a typical anti-gun screed from a suitable source, substituting the word 'president' for every instance of the word 'child' (or 'children') and maybe 'White House' for every occurrence of the word 'school', just to see what it would read like. I'd do it but I'm just plain lazy.
Any takers? Bueller?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 25, 2013 10:14 AM (1OZSU)
Posted by: t-bird at January 25, 2013 10:15 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: awkward davies at January 25, 2013 02:12 PM (USjX1)
I'm not sure if something else didn't plant the seed first but the rabbi was definitely instrumental in nurturing it.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 25, 2013 10:15 AM (R4Bz0)
Wow. Since I don't listen to him I never knew he said this. I don't even know what to say to that, its just so......evil. He does not determine the flourishing of rights. And certainly taking away or restricting one right makes all the others less likely to flourish.
In my mind that has got to be one of the worst statements I have ever heard he made. He may has well said, I am not killing you, I am allowing my murders to flourish.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 25, 2013 10:16 AM (p/cQy)
Posted by: awkward davies at January 25, 2013 10:17 AM (USjX1)
Posted by: thunderb at January 25, 2013 02:11 PM (Dnbau)
Because sharia law is known for its enlightened and humanitarian verdicts
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 25, 2013 10:17 AM (R4Bz0)
In other words, the freedom of his captive press to support him shall be expanded.
Posted by: t-bird at January 25, 2013 02:15 PM (FcR7P)
I saw it as, we have to kill you but don't worry others will live a better life as a result. Not quite sure how, but don't worry about the details
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 25, 2013 10:18 AM (1Jaio)
‘In announcing his gun control proposals, President Obama said that he
was not restricting Second Amendment rights, but allowing other
constitutional rights to flourish.Â’
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These next four years ain't gonna be pretty, people.
Posted by: Soona at January 25, 2013 10:18 AM (/ZV9/)
Posted by: thunderb at January 25, 2013 10:18 AM (Dnbau)
constitutional rights to flourish.
I wasn't lying! I'm a writer! I give the truth scope!
Posted by: Geoffery Chaucer at January 25, 2013 10:18 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Original Roy at January 25, 2013 10:19 AM (wTawr)
Posted by: RWC at January 25, 2013 10:20 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
Kleck and Gertz via John Lott Jr.
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2003/04/10/duncan3/
"After mentioning the estimated 80,000 to 82,000 DGUs reported by the National Crime Victimization Survey, they note that “other surveys imply that private firearms may be used in self-defense up to two and a half million times each year” and mention as their source, Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz, “Armed Resistance to Crime: the Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense with a Gun,” Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, v. 86, no. 1, pp. 150-187. In footnote 4, they state, “Kleck and Gertz’s survey (1995, pp. 182-3) of 10 other nationwide polls implies a range of 764,036 to 3,609,682 defensive uses of guns per year.” "
Another set of stats that have the number lower:
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp#crime
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 25, 2013 10:20 AM (xz0nG)
It's worse than that, do read the transcript what Obamacles I-The SCOAMF was saying was that the "Life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness" penumbra outweighs the hard tacit to the adoption of the Document Bill of Rights.
IoW he will restrict the first amendment without reservation because people have a right to happiness, he will do away with the 4th amendment because people should be happy and they will be happier KNOWING what is in your closet.
He got up, counted on the traditional post election goodwill and apathy as cover and said "fuck you I can trash the bill of rights because DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE!"
Yeah and not trusting Mr "Constitutional Scholar" is just paranoia...
Posted by: sven10077 at January 25, 2013 10:20 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: thunderb at January 25, 2013 10:20 AM (Dnbau)
was not restricting Second Amendment rights, but allowing other
constitutional rights to flourish.Â’
What a fucking imbecile. Tribe and the rest of the shithooks who taught him should be roundly ridiculed for producing this ignorant garbage.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 25, 2013 10:20 AM (R4Bz0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdhcbkm_xvs
Posted by: the botnet at January 25, 2013 10:20 AM (f1cjt)
Posted by: Kristophr at January 25, 2013 10:21 AM (wYVte)
Scratch a liberal, and 9 times out of 10 you'll find a Marxist hidden underneath.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 25, 2013 10:21 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: JDP at January 25, 2013 02:18 PM (60GaT)
Because modern "liberalism" is dirty with Marxist principles, principles that have torn down nations and enslaved millions. Pointing to that has historical precedence, and doesn't just make you sound like an angry old man.
Posted by: Heralder at January 25, 2013 10:21 AM (+xmn4)
Posted by: RWC at January 25, 2013 10:21 AM (fWAjv)
Before even reading this, it's great to have Mamet on our side. Even the dimwits on the left know better than to go toe to toe with him.
You must not have read the comments. Half of them are "ZOMG! The scary black man is coming to take away your guns, teabaggers! Ha ha ha!"
Posted by: Barry at January 25, 2013 10:22 AM (zF6Iw)
Exactly. By injecting himself into the gun control "discussion" he's managed to elevate himself from his previous position, a silly cut-rate celebrity judge who failed and was replaced by Howard Stern in a cheap ripoff of American Idol. Now people actually seem to pay attention to what that dumbass has to say.
Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at January 25, 2013 10:22 AM (QKKT0)
I still like the pithier version of why I "need" an AR15.
Because fuck you, that's why, you fucking fascist.
Of course, that's not likely to win any friends. But they aren't exactly looking for friends in the gun culture either, so fuck them all sideways with a tabasco-soaked pineapple.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2013 10:23 AM (TIIx5)
Also, Marxism is still hated by a majority of the country, even though most people don't understand what it is. Since the Proggy policies (which they call "Liberal") are so close to Marxism that any differences are merely cosmetic (and rare), calling Liberalism "Marxism" is a good way to get people to view it in a negative light.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 10:23 AM (8y9MW)
I still like the pithier version of why I "need" an AR15.
Because fuck you, that's why, you fucking fascist.
Of course, that's not likely to win any friends. But they aren't exactly looking for friends in the gun culture either, so fuck them all sideways with a tabasco-soaked pineapple.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2013 02:23 PM (TIIx5)
I like the need of an ar15 likened to the need of Rosa Parks to sit in the front of the bus
Posted by: Red Shirt at January 25, 2013 10:25 AM (FIDMq)
Posted by: awkward davies at January 25, 2013 10:25 AM (USjX1)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 02:23 PM (8y9MW)
I hope that's true but considering the leftist agenda in the schools, how long will people think that Marxism is bad?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 25, 2013 10:26 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Film Actors Guild at January 25, 2013 10:26 AM (XvHmy)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 25, 2013 10:26 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Heralder at January 25, 2013 02:21 PM (+xmn4)
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Shit. I don't mind being called an angry old man. Because I am an angry old man. And I'm hoping there's angry YOUNG men to stand with.
Posted by: Soona at January 25, 2013 10:26 AM (/ZV9/)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 25, 2013 10:27 AM (1OZSU)
Posted by: Barry at January 25, 2013 02:22 PM (zF6Iw)
That's not going toe to toe with him; that's hiding behind the anonymity of an internet nic. None of the fuckheads like Alec Baldwin would dare cross him in public because at some point in his career he's stated admiration for his body of work. Plus he knows Mamet's smarter than he is even if he'd be loathe to admit it.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 25, 2013 10:27 AM (R4Bz0)
"...do people think criticizing liberalism doesn't have enough sting or something?"
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I'm old. I remember liberals. What we are seeing today isn''t liberalism. It's statism. There is a large difference.
Posted by: Fly Guy at January 25, 2013 10:28 AM (1Y+hH)
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If someone else is paying for your food, shelter and health care, a slave is exactly what you are.
Posted by: angienc at January 25, 2013 10:28 AM (w3JGl)
Cats Are Evil
Why New Zealand is right to consider banning them in order to save its wildlife.
http://tinyurl.com/b88p9ew
Posted by: kbdabear at January 25, 2013 10:28 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: SH at January 25, 2013 10:28 AM (gmeXX)
121...Also, Marxism is still hated by a majority of the country, even though most people don't understand what it is. Since the Proggy policies (which they call "Liberal") are so close to Marxism that any differences are merely cosmetic (and rare), calling Liberalism "Marxism" is a good way to get people to view it in a negative light.
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Calling them "control freaks" is something that they can easily understand.
Which is what they are....fascist control freaks.
Posted by: wheatie at January 25, 2013 10:28 AM (fH4X9)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at January 25, 2013 10:28 AM (feFL6)
Well, it has a major flaw (as a term), in that it is so closely tied with the USSR, which even Liberals haven't yet found a way to spin as a success.
So for a few more years, at least.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 10:28 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 25, 2013 10:28 AM (l86i3)
Because fuck you, that's why, you fucking fascist.
We regret to inform you that your application for membership has been placed on permanent hold.
Posted by: The Oxford Union Debating Society at January 25, 2013 10:28 AM (QKKT0)
We can be lead , but when push comes to shove we retain the ability to shove back .
Consent of the governed and all that .
Times a million.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at January 25, 2013 10:28 AM (DZqR0)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 25, 2013 10:29 AM (kXoT0)
I'm not sure that it's hated. The humor is a bit dated, and the slapstick looks odd today, but it was another time, so we shouldn't judge them too harshly.
Posted by: Emily Litella at January 25, 2013 10:29 AM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 25, 2013 10:29 AM (uhAkr)
Posted by: L, elle at January 25, 2013 10:29 AM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: Lobotobiden at January 25, 2013 10:29 AM (FIDMq)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 25, 2013 10:30 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at January 25, 2013 10:30 AM (Puqto)
Shit. I don't mind being called an angry old man. Because I am an angry old man. And I'm hoping there's angry YOUNG men to stand with.
Posted by: Soona at January 25, 2013 02:26 PM (/ZV9/)
Sorry, I didn't write that in an effective manner, I didn't mean it to sound offensive if it did. I meant that it makes it easier to dismiss is all, but the thought was truncated.
I think there's plenty of angry young men, I'm below 40 so I'm not sure if I qualify, but they're there.
Posted by: Heralder at January 25, 2013 10:30 AM (+xmn4)
I need my AR15 (it's a Bushmaster in fact!) because you fucking fascists won't honor the Constitution and have made illegal what I really want.
And because my SCAR 17S is backordered for six months.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 25, 2013 10:31 AM (GsoHv)
We should remember that we don't have 1st A or 2nd A rights. Those Amendments grant us nothing. Those amendments protect us from the government in taking away our God-given rights as humans. Our natural rights come from God, not from the Constitution.
Posted by: SH at January 25, 2013 10:31 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Phinn at January 25, 2013 10:31 AM (o2sGG)
Honestly, I don't even remember any of them, off the top of my head, except Zeppo. And him only because of BtvS (which is highly Ironic, because he was used because he's the Marx Brother everyone forgets).
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 10:31 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 25, 2013 10:32 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at January 25, 2013 10:32 AM (+oin+)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at January 25, 2013 02:28 PM (DZqR0)
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To be more exact, it should be in the realm of, X 175,000,000.
Posted by: Soona at January 25, 2013 10:33 AM (/ZV9/)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 25, 2013 10:33 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 25, 2013 10:33 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 25, 2013 10:34 AM (l86i3)
True, the Proggies do, but the people they're trying to convince- my family, for instance- don't.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 10:34 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at January 25, 2013 10:35 AM (feFL6)
When the Kiwi start dying off from vermin-driven plagues, kittehs are gonna laugh their fuzzy asses off.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs an intervention at January 25, 2013 10:36 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: SH at January 25, 2013 02:31 PM (gmeXX)
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Thank you. Someone needs to remind the Consitutional Scholar known as Fly Guy that he doesn't rank rights as to their relation to each other. They existed before him and will exist after he is gone.
He can only temporarily suppress the exercise of rights, like all tyrants.
Posted by: Meremortal at January 25, 2013 10:36 AM (1Y+hH)
Oh Lord. You Texans have no sense of humor.
Emily Litella?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 25, 2013 10:36 AM (GsoHv)
Posted by: SH at January 25, 2013 02:31 PM (gmeXX)
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Correcto-mondo. A good article in American Thinker today addresses this. The Constitution does not give us those rights, it protects those rights.
Posted by: Soona at January 25, 2013 10:36 AM (/ZV9/)
Based on the ones I've known, I think there's sort of a 90/10 thing going on. 10% do jobs that if the government hadn't displaced private actors, those jobs would get done anyway. And some of those people are besieged by more-shit-to-do-all-the-time, and some don't get paid vastly more than their free-market equivalents would. Meanwhile, the other 90% do very little, what little they do is hugely destructive, and they get paid yo.
Posted by: oblig. at January 25, 2013 10:37 AM (cePv8)
Posted by: Al at January 25, 2013 10:41 AM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Al at January 25, 2013 10:41 AM (V70Uh)
Posted by: JDP at January 25, 2013 02:18 PM
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Because the word "liberal" has a positive connotation in the classical sense (liberty). While it is true the left has perverted its meaning, at the same time the left has brainwashed generations via public education to think that what they call "liberalism" has that same positive connotation. The left is also doing a pretty thorough job thus far of making people see "socialism" in a positive light as well. OTOH, "Marxism" still carries a negative connotation and since that really is the left's endgame, call it for what it is -- it might wake some of the sheep up.
One of the biggest mistakes of those on the right, IMO, is their constant reference to the left as "liberals" and their agenda as "liberalism."
Posted by: angienc at January 25, 2013 10:43 AM (w3JGl)
Posted by: JDP at January 25, 2013 02:18 PM
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Because the word "liberal" has a positive connotation in the classical sense (liberty). While it is true the left has perverted its meaning, at the same time the left has brainwashed generations via public education to think that what they call "liberalism" has that same positive connotation. The left is also doing a pretty thorough job thus far of making people see "socialism" in a positive light as well. OTOH, "Marxism" still carries a negative connotation and since that really is the left's endgame, call it for what it is -- it might wake some of the sheep up.
One of the biggest mistakes of those on the right, IMO, is their constant reference to the left as "liberals" and their agenda as "liberalism."
Posted by: angienc at January 25, 2013 10:43 AM (w3JGl)
Soona, just read the piece at the AT. That is exactly correct. I fall into the trap from time to time to. When some lefty says why should you be able to own a firearm, I will lazily say because it is my 2nd A right. And that is simply not true. The correct response is because it is my God-given right as a man, and the 2nd A ensures that such right cannot be infringed.
My understanding is that Hamilton was also against the BOR for the same reasons. It was unnecessary because Congress didn't have the powers to take away such rights under Article II.
Anyway, we conservatives should be clear when we speak.
Posted by: SH at January 25, 2013 10:43 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: comatus at January 25, 2013 01:59 PM (qaVK+)
Yeah, I know.
I was commenting on the irony, something that you apparently should pick up at the hardware store FFS.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 25, 2013 10:46 AM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: Al at January 25, 2013 10:50 AM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 25, 2013 10:52 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: awkward davies at January 25, 2013 10:59 AM (USjX1)
Posted by: The Lord of the Flies at January 25, 2013 11:13 AM (qxcKC)
I need my AR-15 to kill fascists with.
You aren't a fascist, are you?
Posted by: Kristophr at January 25, 2013 02:24 PM (wYVte)
Also, I was surprised to find that I was a fascist.
Damn, it's hot in here. Anyone got a bottle of water?
Posted by: Zombie Woody Guthrie at January 25, 2013 11:34 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: palooka at January 25, 2013 11:49 AM (Hywwr)
I'm off to the hardware now. If they have any 20-minute videos of fully-clothed Japanese schoolgirl imitators mouthing pop tune lyrics, I'll bring it back for you. For the ironic content. The smart, smart military ironic content.
Posted by: comatus at January 25, 2013 12:17 PM (qaVK+)
Marx and (more pragmatically) Lenin and (most pragmatically) Stalin were arrogating to themselves the right to define ability and needs. "Democratic Centralism" - google this.
Leaving Republicans aside (they're Marxist too, in their Menshevik way; we are all Marxist now), the conservative answer to abilities and needs is that this is decided by family, friends, the market, and the local government; and by the centralised State as a last resort.
Posted by: boulder hobo at January 25, 2013 12:26 PM (p39hN)
Posted by: Victoria at January 25, 2013 12:27 PM (/J5KB)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 25, 2013 06:29 PM (7h5MH)
I just passed it on to a boatload of people, and I hope a bunch of you do the same. Mamet has some cachet as a former liberal playwright; Pulitzers, Tonys, H'wood movies, the whole nine yards -- some of your acquaintance will listen to Mamet when they would rather eat a bug than listen to Mark Levin.
BTW, if you haven't read his "coming out as a patriot" essay, find "Why I'm No Longer a Brain-Dead Liberal." THAT one made heads explode from Coast to Coast. ;-)
Posted by: beverly at January 26, 2013 12:22 AM (+N5lc)
constant reference to the left as "liberals" and their agenda as
"liberalism.""
Amen, sistah!!!
Nomenclature, nomenclature, nomenclature: they kill the Patriots with that stuff. Next GOPer who refers to increased TAXES as increased REVENUE needs to be taken to the woodshed to have his hide tanned!
Posted by: beverly at January 26, 2013 12:48 AM (+N5lc)
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