January 22, 2013

Davos: How About Throwing $14 Trillion Away for "Green" Socialism Projects?
— Ace

Dire.

An unprecedented $14trn (£8.8trn) greening of the global economy is the only way to ensure long-term sustainable growth, according to a stark warning delivered to political and business leaders as they descended on the World Economic Forum in Davos yesterday.

Only a sustained and dramatic shift to infrastructure and industrial practices using low-carbon technology can save the world and its economy from devastating global warming, according to a Davos-commissioned alliance led by the former Mexican President, Felipe Calderon, in the most dramatic call so far to fight climate change on business grounds....

The extra spending amounts to roughly $700bn a year until 2030 and would provide a much-needed economic stimulus as well as reduce the costs associated with global warming further down the line, said Mr Calderon, who leads the alliance.

I have no problem with other countries pissing away their wealth -- and the hypothetical, ever-dwindling wealth of their children and grandchildren -- on this. If that's what they want.

Be my guest. Chin-chin.

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1 long-term sustainable growth -- meaning even handed poverty world wide, starting with us.

Posted by: mallfly at January 22, 2013 01:29 PM (bJm7W)

2 ooh, first, too.

Posted by: mallfly at January 22, 2013 01:30 PM (bJm7W)

3 The tyranny of...Green.

Posted by: wheatie at January 22, 2013 01:30 PM (fH4X9)

4 Be my guest. Chin-chin.

Amen to that, ace. Just quit spending my money already!

Posted by: Jay in Ames at January 22, 2013 01:30 PM (i2Lsf)

5 Sustainability does not mean what they think it means.

A green energy plan for the world is completely unsustainable, because we will rapidly run out of room for those soar panels and wind mills and tide generators.

And then people will die.

But that's always been the plan.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 22, 2013 01:31 PM (GsoHv)

6 Chin-chin.
In Japan that's slang for penis.

Posted by: YIKES! at January 22, 2013 01:31 PM (mETGQ)

7

See this is where we should be like China.  China's a totalitarian state so they can swear up and down they're spending a fortune on this while merrily dumping toxic waste across the landscape like so much fertilizer.

 

We're stupid enough to actually spend the money.

Posted by: Austin in TX at January 22, 2013 01:32 PM (GBY9g)

8 o Yeah, solyndra, light squared etc.

let's throw money away.

ya know we should start a company any company just call it The Greenest of Company's and get some of this cash!

Posted by: ette at January 22, 2013 01:33 PM (nqBYe)

9 All for a scam that has manufactured data and a bunch of lying shitweasels who should be in jail.



But I am sure Pharaoh Obamaseti-I will find a way to send money via executive order.


And Boner will make some noises while cleaning the green shit out of his drawers and smoking a cig.

Posted by: Vic at January 22, 2013 01:33 PM (53z96)

10
See now, they think the 700B a year is to come from the US taxpayer.  What?
You think Mexico is gonna give up some of its oil money?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 22, 2013 01:33 PM (p/cQy)

11 So, how long before "Davos" and "The IMF" decide that all the "taxpayer money" of "US citizens" has to be confiscated to fight "worldwide income disparity?" And how long before King O agrees to that?

Posted by: shibumi at January 22, 2013 01:33 PM (z63Tr)

12

14 Trillion? That's pocket change to Obama.

Posted by: dantesed at January 22, 2013 01:34 PM (++FkS)

13 "The alliance, which includes the World Bank, Deutsche Bank and the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, proposes that governments use public money to give guarantees, insurance and incentives to potential low-carbon investors at the same time as phasing out fossil fuel subsidies."

translation: let's do Solyndra all over again, only on a much bigger scale.

Posted by: mallfly at January 22, 2013 01:34 PM (bJm7W)

14 Just send them 14 nice, freshly-minted coins and say they are worth $14 trillion. See how easy this is?

Posted by: Ed Jones at January 22, 2013 01:34 PM (fnZ5z)

15 low-carbon technology can save the world Hey, humans are high in carbon! Hmmm...

Posted by: Dick Attenborough at January 22, 2013 01:35 PM (FcR7P)

16 LiFB.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 22, 2013 01:35 PM (evdj2)

17

 

Isn't "chin-chin" when two balls slap me on the chin?

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at January 22, 2013 01:35 PM (ggRof)

18 >>> "political and business leaders" There was a time not too long ago when these people were called "the syndicate," and instead of "investing" for "stimulus" they "plundered."

Posted by: soothsayer's thought bubble at January 22, 2013 01:35 PM (BUcLz)

19 If green energy was economically viable, it would not need government funding. People would be knocking each other over trying to invest in it.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 22, 2013 01:35 PM (bb5+k)

20 I'm sure they all took low-carbon flights to the slopes of Davos, right?

Or do our betters get to ignore those rules?

Posted by: Coldstream at January 22, 2013 01:35 PM (qrCKL)

21 What's the world GDP? This has to approach 10% of that number. Utter tyrants. And stupid ones. If they said it was for penis enlargement, they might have a chance of getting it.

Posted by: Truman North, at 25% battery life at January 22, 2013 01:36 PM (I2LwF)

22 @14 They probably will, too.

Posted by: JDTAY at January 22, 2013 01:36 PM (a0nis)

23 Just outlaw carbon...erase it from the periodic table....and suspend the laws of physics while you're at it.

Posted by: BignJames at January 22, 2013 01:36 PM (j7iSn)

24 Thanks for the new thread- I dared not even touch the previous one


wouldn't a little global warming turn millions of square miles in N America and Europe and Asia into usable farmland to feed an increasing world population?

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 22, 2013 01:36 PM (8sCoq)

25 in other words, let's just transfer the wealth of the world to our groupies.

Thanx!

Posted by: ette at January 22, 2013 01:36 PM (nqBYe)

26 When they say "the world" they mean "the US gives 95% and the rest of us get to say we helped"

Posted by: Truman North, at 25% battery life at January 22, 2013 01:37 PM (I2LwF)

27 16 LiFB.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 22, 2013 05:35 PM (evdj2)

Yep. And every day that passes, my LIB conviction is confirmed. This regime is full-out evil and wrongheaded.

Posted by: tubal at January 22, 2013 01:37 PM (BoE3Z)

28 So all these free shit governments are hot-to-trot to fork over even more of others people's money.

Posted by: YIKES! at January 22, 2013 01:37 PM (mETGQ)

29 This is how members of Congress get rich. They create these compulsory cockamamie schemes and entities and lo and behold guess who got in on the ground floor!

Posted by: soothsayer's thought bubble at January 22, 2013 01:37 PM (052zE)

30 "The report acknowledges that an extra $700bn is a lot of extra cash to find each year, but says that the money could be raised with an increase in global public spending of a relatively small $36bn a year, if it was targeted effectively through the right measures to support private investment."

right, if gov'ts put up two percent for support, private investors would pour tons of money into schemes that will suddenly turn profitable, especially if China and India decide to close all their coal and petroleum burning electric generating facilities and replace them with windmills.

These people are truly dangerous.

Posted by: mallfly at January 22, 2013 01:37 PM (bJm7W)

Posted by: tubal at January 22, 2013 01:37 PM (BoE3Z)

32 If we spend this $14 trillion, then the president and the media will know that we are serious about spending reduction and feel obligated to support my ten year plan to balance the budget.

Posted by: John Boehner at January 22, 2013 01:38 PM (Hx5uv)

33 I'll believe them when they start acting like it's a crisis.

Actually, no, I won't. Fuck them.

Molon Labe, bitches.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 22, 2013 01:38 PM (xz0nG)

34 chin chin is Japanese for dick

Posted by: Endeavor to Persevere at January 22, 2013 01:38 PM (zZJJp)

35 Low-carbon technology, at your service...

Posted by: U-238 at January 22, 2013 01:38 PM (FcR7P)

36

5 Sustainability does not mean what they think it means.

 

And they also avoid using that word...'sustainability'...to government spending.

 

Posted by: wheatie at January 22, 2013 01:39 PM (fH4X9)

37 Sounds like a good deal! Sign us up! And sign up our future generations, too!

Posted by: Emperor Obozo at January 22, 2013 01:40 PM (H84UO)

38 Sequestration of carbon vessels will soon commence.

Posted by: Vger at January 22, 2013 01:40 PM (I88Jc)

39

 

I am overwhelmed and in agreement because this word was included:

___      ____      ____     ___    ___

 

 

Stimulus!!!

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 22, 2013 01:40 PM (1Y+hH)

40 Davos:  Liberal / Socialist circle jerk

Posted by: polynikes at January 22, 2013 01:40 PM (m2CN7)

41 as if the numbers mean anything. 10 trillion, umpty bazillion, 2 scrogrillian. whatever. At least the Catholic Church only asked 10%, these modern day totalitarians want...I'd say everything...but even the world is not enough.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 22, 2013 01:40 PM (QxSug)

42 I hearby declare my dick a renewable resource.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 22, 2013 01:41 PM (xz0nG)

43 if it was targeted effectively through the right measures to support private
investment.


If you set the tax rates right *coughFrancecough*, no one has any money left to privately invest.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 22, 2013 01:41 PM (ZKzrr)

44 "Greening global economic growth is the only way to satisfy the needs of today's population and up to 9 billion people by 2050, driving development and wellbeing while reducing greenhouse gas emissions and increasing natural resource productivity."

key word is "needs" -- which the elites will be glad to determine for the rest of us. You don't really need that bed all to yourself, do you, citizen..?

Posted by: mallfly at January 22, 2013 01:41 PM (bJm7W)

45 Low-carbon technology, at your service...

Pussy.

Posted by: U-235 at January 22, 2013 01:41 PM (SY2Kh)

46 Davos want 14 trillion to create the daleks.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 22, 2013 01:41 PM (74T7W)

47 These are the losers of the world who can only get rich by grifting others by the barrel of the gun. They force carbon credits on the people, high speed rail, solar panels. And when you follow the paper trail, you'll find all these "business and political leaders" have stakes in the government-backed enterprises.

Posted by: soothsayer's thought bubble at January 22, 2013 01:41 PM (DlaLh)

48 The next generation...

Posted by: Thorium at January 22, 2013 01:41 PM (GlnE7)

49

I ran the numbers three or four years ago....

 

Take a barrel of oil... turn it into Gas... then convert that into Kilowatt hours... then multiply by the amount of Gas used in this nation for personal Transportation....

 

And you would have to increase the Electric power grid by 130% (MORE than double it) to have eveyone driving electric cars.

 

Problem is?  We are already on the verge of Brownouts... and thats not even considering the amount we'd have to spend on the Distribution Grid....

 

So... the ONLY way they could do this is to destroy one of the greatest Enhancers of Freedom there is... the Personal Automobile...  yep... that Invention that allows us to live where we want, shop where we wish, and NOT be controled by Central Authorities artificial Schedules...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 22, 2013 01:42 PM (lZBBB)

50 Chin Chin (disambiguation) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Chin chin (disambiguation)) Chin Chin, a fried food popular in Nigeria. Chin Chin, a punk/new wave band active in the 1980s Chin Chin Gutierrez, a Filipino actress and environmentalist. Chinchin, a town in Armenia. A ceremonial toast in Argentina, Portugal, and the United Kingdom. Also, cin cin in Italy. A Chinese three-string banjo. A song performed by the fictional Japanese girl-group, Bang Wa Cherry, in the movie Blade. Japanese slang for penis. _________________ He order #8?

Posted by: Ying at January 22, 2013 01:42 PM (r2PLg)

51 it's like what the left wanted with global warming fairy tales. Look, we can reinvent the economy so as to avoid emitting carbon, potentially killing the economy and returning us to the dark ages OR we could just build a dam if the ocean does somehow rise a few feet. your choice

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 22, 2013 01:42 PM (QxSug)

52 And there was some nutless douchebag on the Weather Channel this morning presenting all this as though it were an established fact that this absolutely must happen or else the consequences for our future will be very dire.

I wanted to throw a shoe through my TV screen, but then I wouldn't have gotten to enjoy Stephanie Abrams's enormous hooters, which were the only reason I had the damn channel on in the first place.

Posted by: Kensington at January 22, 2013 01:42 PM (H84UO)

53 Ask yourself why $14T is required.  Why not $10T, why not $20T?  The number is telling: they do not care what the money is spent on (however, the "green" economy/industry is great cover), simply that at least $14T is spent.  What does that tell you?  Obviously, it has nothing to do with sustaining the planet, but more so with sustaining the Ponzi.

Posted by: cornedmutton at January 22, 2013 01:43 PM (DNHQA)

54 Electric cars = coal powered cars

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 22, 2013 01:43 PM (GlnE7)

55 It is better to try to pre-empt events like Hurricane Sandy, which cost $50bn, by keeping a lid on global warming, concluded the report, researched by the Accenture consultancy. WTF?

Posted by: Poseidon, Titan, and Aigios at January 22, 2013 01:43 PM (LpQbZ)

56 Davos should stick to doing what he does best anyway: creating the Daleks.

Posted by: Kensington at January 22, 2013 01:43 PM (H84UO)

57 Let 'em all meet up in upstate NY tomorrow with no fossil fuels to burn. 

Posted by: Aaron at January 22, 2013 01:43 PM (Tlix5)

58 Pretty soon you're going to force us to impose an voluntary limit on blank checks. I mean it!

Posted by: John Boehner at January 22, 2013 01:43 PM (FcR7P)

59 $700 Billion annually?

This from the cocksuckers who were SCREAMING that the Iraq War's price tag -- $78 billion -- was too much??

They have no problem spending TEN Iraq War Budgets annually for this bullshit!

Posted by: beverly at January 22, 2013 01:44 PM (YpRJ9)

60 Well, privately owned central banks eg; the fed, worked out good for these guys, I'm sure they say to one another, we did not think any one would fall for that either, so what the hell, lets give it a shot!

Posted by: jpintx at January 22, 2013 01:44 PM (23CU5)

61 Dammit, somebody else already beat me to the Dalek joke.

I am chagrined.

Posted by: Kensington at January 22, 2013 01:45 PM (H84UO)

62

Posted by: mallfly at January 22, 2013 05:41 PM (bJm7W)

 

Annndddd.. the Fun part?  The richest sections of the World... Europe, and the US... are at zero population growth....

 

Its the Poor countries that are creating the problem with population growth... because we won't let Darwin work and through charity let them outgrow their LOCAL Resources.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 22, 2013 01:45 PM (lZBBB)

63 by the way, I wonder how much carbon dioxide was emitted flying in all that stuff they eat at these we-should-run-the-world-athons? You know they weren't getting by on local cheese and vegetables.

Posted by: mallfly at January 22, 2013 01:46 PM (bJm7W)

64 How much of that total will be Fed Funny Money covertly funneled to Europe?


Posted by: ontherocks at January 22, 2013 01:46 PM (aZ6ew)

65

Want the world to save energy.  Find a way that will save money while saving energy while living your current lifestyle.  Don't make using energy more expensive and less efficient even if you cut back on your current lifestyle.   

 

Capitalism is the answer.  Its always the answer.

 

 

Posted by: polynikes at January 22, 2013 01:46 PM (m2CN7)

66 What, no race card?

Posted by: beach mango at January 22, 2013 01:46 PM (LpQbZ)

67 So... the ONLY way they could do this is to destroy one of the greatest Enhancers of Freedom there is... the Personal Automobile... yep... that Invention that allows us to live where we want, shop where we wish, and NOT be controled by Central Authorities artificial Schedules...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 22, 2013 05:42 PM (lZBBB)



George Will pointed out that Socialists love trains.  Masses of people get on and off according to the schedule of a big government bureaucrat who is in control. 



Cars, like guns, simply prevent central bureaucrat control.  Ergo they don't like them.






Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 22, 2013 01:46 PM (bb5+k)

68 This can't be serious http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/17/west-point-center-cites-dangers-far-right-us/ Apparently if you think the government is trampling your constitutional rights, you are just like an AQ terrorist. WTF

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at January 22, 2013 01:46 PM (Z5BDI)

69 Anyone who has Accenture doing consulting work should call them up and fire them. Immediately.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 22, 2013 01:47 PM (nZvGM)

70 ManBearPig must be squealing in a trough somewhere.

Posted by: beach mango at January 22, 2013 01:47 PM (LpQbZ)

71 and if they're so concerned about food for the poor, why do they want to turn all that corn into ethanol?

Posted by: mallfly at January 22, 2013 01:47 PM (bJm7W)

72 How else or where else will they get the money to build infrastructure in Africa to get access to, then raid the last place on earth left with the most untouched  minerals?

Nothing but crooks on a world wide scale.

Posted by: Deli LLama at January 22, 2013 01:47 PM (lGu1O)

73

54 Electric cars = coal powered cars

 

Heh.

 

But not for long...since King Clusterfuck has declared war on coal.

 

Posted by: wheatie at January 22, 2013 01:47 PM (fH4X9)

74 Felipe Calderon. Yeah, now there's a paragon of unimpeachable honesty and integrity. Totally trustworthy with a huge pile of cash. Sure. What could go wrong?

Posted by: Stu-22 at January 22, 2013 01:48 PM (AiYlm)

75
I wanted to throw a shoe through my TV screen, but then I wouldn't have gotten to enjoy Stephanie Abrams's enormous hooters, which were the only reason I had the damn channel on in the first place.

Posted by: Kensington at January 22, 2013 05:42 PM (H84UO)



Propaganda is on the Weather channel too.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 22, 2013 01:48 PM (bb5+k)

76 Apparently if you think the government is trampling your constitutional rights, you are just like an AQ terrorist. WTF Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at January 22, 2013 05:46 PM (Z5BDI) Careful when you label things. They often become the monster you fear.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 22, 2013 01:48 PM (l86i3)

77 Yeah well I am gonna go out on a limb and bet that Ogabe is gonna pledge 8 trillion if he thinks he can fake it or push it.

Run Red divorce the Blue.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 01:49 PM (LRFds)

78 If all life on Earth is carbon-based, why is carbon bad?

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 22, 2013 01:50 PM (8sCoq)

79 "33 I'll believe them when they start acting like it's a crisis.

Actually, no, I won't. Fuck them.

Molon Labe, bitches.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 22, 2013 05:38 PM (xz0nG)"




Yeah, I would say that saying "BS!" to anthropogenic anything with relation to climate is a pretty decent hill to die on. It's complete and utter bullshit, clearly, and only designed to create a set of micromanaging bureaucrats so large and intrusive that the Soviet Union would blush to see how much control the state had over its subjects.

Posted by: BS Inc. at January 22, 2013 01:50 PM (eP0u9)

80 Chin-chin. In Japan that's slang for penis. Chin-chin. Slap-slap. Nuts!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 22, 2013 01:50 PM (jZpAK)

81 These people are fucking crazy.

Posted by: Jim Jones at January 22, 2013 01:50 PM (w3+gB)

82 Its the Poor countries that are creating the problem with population growth...

Tell'em to read the preceding thread.  That should fix the problem.

Posted by: pep at January 22, 2013 01:50 PM (6TB1Z)

83 Davos, Switzerland: The seat of many destructive plans, anti-human attitudes, desire to bleed the rest of the world of power and money for self-enrichment and ideological stridency. Davros: Creator of the Daleks. Coincidence?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 22, 2013 01:50 PM (bxiXv)

84 Surface temps 7 degrees C warmer than today.

You want bio-diversity, I deliver!

Posted by: The Cambrian Explosion at January 22, 2013 01:50 PM (GlnE7)

85 * ette,

Why do you think I am now saying Boehner ought to just give money to the GOP faithful?

These people are thieves nothing more nothing less.

"Hi *hic* I'm John Boehner you you on the couch have you found the secret to cold fusion using 7*up clear and licorice? Send me a self-addressed stamped envelope and I'll send you 242 million dollars....give 'til it hurts."

//Boner I the Malignant

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 01:51 PM (LRFds)

86 OT: Netanyahu will Israeli election http://tinyurl.com/a3j8zb6

Posted by: Stitch, the guesthouse cat at January 22, 2013 01:51 PM (XvHmy)

87 You won't need cars where our high-speed box cars are going...

Posted by: Josef Biden at January 22, 2013 01:51 PM (FcR7P)

88 If all life on Earth is carbon-based, why is carbon bad? Because. Shut up!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 22, 2013 01:51 PM (jZpAK)

89 Hahahaha, if we'd just spend 50 billion today then we can prevent a hurricane tomorrow. Swearsies!

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at January 22, 2013 01:51 PM (RZ8pf)

90 Ace of Spaces HQ: Come for the insights, Stay for the Multilingual Dick Jokes

Posted by: Brother Cavil, scrounging extra strength brain bleach at January 22, 2013 01:51 PM (GBXon)

91 @16 LiFB.

Why not 28 trillion. Yeah THAT would fix it!  Come on baby , BURN IT !!

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 22, 2013 01:52 PM (EZl54)

92 "Propaganda is on the Weather channel too."
===============

Well, sure! It's owned by NBC. It's not just Al Roker sharting up and down the studio; it's also MSNBC talking points every ten minutes or so.

Have Jen Carfagno flash a little thigh, and it all goes down very easily.

Posted by: Kensington at January 22, 2013 01:52 PM (H84UO)

93 47 Soothsayer's thought bubble,

They are Granola versions of Jim and Tammy Bakker and deserve no more respect and frankly less IMHO Jim and Mascara accidentally helped a few needy folks.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 01:52 PM (LRFds)

94

75...Propaganda is on the Weather channel too.

 

Yep.

Their global warming propaganda went into overdrive after they were bought by NBC.

 

And now...they're giving names to every big storm, like hurricanes are named.

I can't figure out why they're doing this.

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at January 22, 2013 01:52 PM (fH4X9)

95

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at January 22, 2013 05:46 PM (Z5BDI)

 

Yes.... I agree!  Those Dam Yankees... those Anti Federalists... those... REBELS!

 

And you call them your Founding Fathers?

Posted by: King George via Wigi Board at January 22, 2013 01:52 PM (lZBBB)

96 This can't be serious

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/17/west-point-center-cites-dangers-far-right-us/

Apparently if you think the government is trampling your constitutional rights, you are just like an AQ terrorist.

WTF

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at January 22, 2013 05:46 PM (Z5BDI)


I'll see your disquieting report, and raise you another disquieting report. 


http://preview.tinyurl.com/a4plh8m


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 22, 2013 01:52 PM (bb5+k)

97 Kinda ironic that it was China that saved us from the Kyoto Treaty.  But China has the block on minerals, since preeeezy's goons won't allow mining, thus blowing U.S. out of the water for building new tech gadgets.  China gets the dirty skies and corners the market on manufacturing.  China is also buying up land in Mexico and making their way into Africa. 

Posted by: Deli LLama at January 22, 2013 01:53 PM (lGu1O)

98 Chin-chin. In Japan that's slang for penis. Oh now WTF, those little bastards that made my Speed Racer Cartoon have had me calling the monkey a penis? You know, there were no black people on Speed Racer so maybe they were racist and used Chin-Chin as a sub for the black man.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 22, 2013 01:53 PM (l86i3)

99 If everybody would just properly inflate their tires it would probably only cost about $10 trillion to save the earth.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 22, 2013 01:53 PM (+lsX1)

100 Back about 7 or 8 years ago when I still watched CNBC, I remember seeing Maria Bartiromo slobbering all over commies like Soros at this event and it creeped me out.

This was well before NBC went all in for SCOAMF, but it was obvious then that the tanking had begun.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 22, 2013 01:54 PM (aZ6ew)

101

North Korea says it will hold no denuclearization talks after UN Security Council resolution condemns rocket launch - @Reuters

 

 

Curses, foiled again!

 

 

-UN

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 22, 2013 01:54 PM (1Y+hH)

102 73
54Electric cars = coal powered cars  

Heh.
 
But not for long...since King Clusterfuck has declared war on coal.
   

Posted by: wheatie at January 22, 2013 05:47 PM (fH4X9)

 

Yeah.... pretty soon you'll have Cars like MINE!

Posted by: Fred Flintstone at January 22, 2013 01:55 PM (lZBBB)

103 101 Meremortal,

Just wait until Texas is "the rogue state"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 01:55 PM (LRFds)

104 "Go west young man" -- Horace Greeley

...so far west that it becomes east.  China, as in times past, may wind up being the safe haven from which civilization can re-seed after periods of the bad crazy

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 22, 2013 01:56 PM (GlnE7)

105

For those of us that really want to watch it burn, this would be putting the metal tip of the gun up to the roof of the mouths of our socialist countries.

 

It's committing to the green nonsense, and pulling the trigger that's the trick.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at January 22, 2013 01:57 PM (AC0lD)

106 101 Meremortal,

Just wait until Texas is "the rogue state"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 05:55 PM (LRFds)

 

 

___  ____  ____  ____   ___  ___  ___

 

Ah yes, the number 1 polluter state in the union. The UN will be on this quickly. Sanctions! No more felt for Stetsons!

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 22, 2013 01:57 PM (1Y+hH)

107 ...so far west that it becomes east. China, as in times past, may wind up being the safe haven from which civilization can re-seed after periods of the bad crazy Posted by: @PurpAv at January 22, 2013 05:56 PM (GlnE7) Yeah, but we will have to sell them all of our women to get in. They killed most of theirs.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 22, 2013 01:58 PM (l86i3)

108 Seriously people, if this report from Gateway pundit has any credibility, we need to start pushback on this STAT.


"
Shock Claim: Obama Only Wants Military Leaders Who ‘Will Fire on U.S. Citizens’"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/a4plh8m

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 22, 2013 01:58 PM (bb5+k)

109 104 Purp Av,

the funny thing is China was rather multi-racial for several periods of the Qin and Han dynasty era...speaking and using Chinese and being useful was passage enough, sure your political influence was local and usually clan or tribal but....


Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 01:58 PM (LRFds)

110 Will someone please think about the poor naugas that are being slaughtered!

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 22, 2013 01:59 PM (GlnE7)

111 I thought Ace was studying French.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 22, 2013 01:59 PM (yiIja)

112 http://tinyurl.com/9gfywpj It's all I got. Don't bogart that joint, man.

Posted by: beach mango foxtrot at January 22, 2013 02:00 PM (LpQbZ)

113 Leonardo DiCaprio invented a car that is powered by fair trade shrimp.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 22, 2013 02:00 PM (+lsX1)

114 111 backwards boy,

Ace was studying Texan and in texas getting French is never mind that is for cowboy audiences over 17....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 02:00 PM (LRFds)

115

 Yeah.... pretty soon you'll have Cars like MINE!

 

Posted by: Fred Flintstone at January 22, 2013 05:55 PM (lZBBB)

 

--------

 

Yabba dabba doo!

 

Oh, and speaking of doo-doo...I'm amazed that there hasn't been a mandate to create poo-burning plants.

We could all be issued honey buckets, to put out with our recycling bins!

 

Posted by: wheatie at January 22, 2013 02:01 PM (fH4X9)

116 “One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.”
― George Orwell, 1984

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 22, 2013 02:01 PM (EZl54)

117 Shock Claim: Obama Only Wants Military Leaders Who ‘Will Fire on U.S. Citizens’" seeing as he is not one of them

Posted by: beach mango foxtrot at January 22, 2013 02:01 PM (LpQbZ)

118

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 22, 2013 05:52 PM (bb5+k)

 

 

Wow... I was one of the few who said anything about when Bush and the Joint Chiefs changed the Armies training and equipment from Big Battle... to anti insurgency ops....

 

Because there are only TWO cases when anti-insurgency is needed... Occupying a foreign country (which IMO is NOT what our Army is for)... and Internal Insurection.

 

 

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 22, 2013 02:02 PM (lZBBB)

119 ...so far west that it becomes east. China, as in times past, may wind up being the safe haven from which civilization can re-seed after periods of the bad crazy

My money's on the Irish. 

Posted by: pep at January 22, 2013 02:02 PM (6TB1Z)

120 Shock Claim: Obama Only Wants Military Leaders Who ‘Will Fire on U.S. Citizens’" Our sons and daughters know which way to point the gun.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 22, 2013 02:02 PM (l86i3)

121 117 beach mango foxtrot,

well on the bright side it'll be neat having the world finally forced to take US refugees.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 02:02 PM (LRFds)

122 Because there are only TWO cases when anti-insurgency is needed... Occupying a foreign country (which IMO is NOT what our Army is for)... and Internal Insurection.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 22, 2013 06:02 PM (lZBBB)


Spookie, isn't it?



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 22, 2013 02:03 PM (bb5+k)

123 I'll see your disquieting report, and raise you another disquieting report.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/a4plh8m

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 22, 2013 05:52 PM (b


You know what gets me about leaks like this?

they are supposed to be heros , and yet they won't name themselves so we have a leg to stand on.


really what are we to do with info like this?

Posted by: ette at January 22, 2013 02:03 PM (nqBYe)

124 China and Russia first this time, we will wait.

Posted by: Jean at January 22, 2013 02:03 PM (VRCBg)

125 well on the bright side it'll be neat having the world finally forced to take US refugees. Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 06:02 PM (LRFds) And they eat a lot.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 22, 2013 02:04 PM (l86i3)

126

Ace was studying Texan and in texas getting French is never mind that is for cowboy audiences over 17....

 

Thanks for helping preserve my innocence, sven.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 22, 2013 02:04 PM (yiIja)

127 Our sons and daughters know which way to point the gun.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 22, 2013 06:02 PM (l86i3)

___   ___ ___  __ _ __

 

Beat me to it.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 22, 2013 02:04 PM (1Y+hH)

128 Is it too late to make Big Jim Slade references to the last thread?

Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 22, 2013 02:04 PM (aozUR)

129 119 pep,

sorry no not until the rot has the forces of evil have to work hard to hit Islands....

China's got good dead zone or calmable neighbors....

we're gonna go crazy so yeah "China"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 02:04 PM (LRFds)

130 well on the bright side it'll be neat having the world finally forced to take US refugees.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 06:02 PM (LRFds)


Were we helpless they would shoot us down like dogs.  They don't need or want any of that "independence" shit in their countries.


We would represent a "disease" from their way of thinking.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 22, 2013 02:05 PM (bb5+k)

131 120 Shock Claim: Obama Only Wants Military Leaders Who ‘Will Fire on U.S. Citizens’" Trust no one over O-3

Posted by: Jean at January 22, 2013 02:05 PM (VRCBg)

132 Wecome to WWIII.

Socialists on one side, Islamist on the other.  Who will have the larger standing army?

Posted by: Fritz at January 22, 2013 02:05 PM (w3+gB)

133

Oh.... and note...

 

Obama REALLY likes to compare himself to Lincoln... you know.... Lincoln... who was President during a War that Killed more Americans than any other War we've had?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 22, 2013 02:05 PM (lZBBB)

134 126 Backwards Boy,

we try....

"rosebud"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 02:05 PM (LRFds)

135 Nothing is ever new.

“You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”
― Winston Churchill, Blood, Sweat and Tears

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 22, 2013 02:05 PM (EZl54)

136 I'm guessing a conference in countering grasmcian rot within the DoD wouldn't go over right now.

Posted by: Jean at January 22, 2013 02:06 PM (VRCBg)

137 Posted by: Romeo13 at January 22, 2013 06:05 PM (lZBBB) That Glenn Beck, He tried so hard to splain it. We just were not ready.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 22, 2013 02:07 PM (l86i3)

138 Should premature ejaculation occur, the Joy of Sex album comes equipped with BIG JIM SLADE.  Big Jim, former tight end for the Kansas City Chiefs, is outfitted with various whips, chains, and a sexual appetite that will knock your socks off!  Big Jim has satisfied women throughout the world, and the capital of Nebraska is Lincoln!

Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 22, 2013 02:07 PM (aozUR)

139 really what are we to do with info like this?

Posted by: ette at January 22, 2013 06:03 PM (nqBYe)


It might be utter crap, but at least we can be looking in that direction, just in case it isn't.


More information would certainly be useful, but I suspect the O administration will not look kindly on anyone who would say such a thing about them, especially if it's true.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 22, 2013 02:07 PM (bb5+k)

140 130 Diogenes Lamp,

I dunno Russia has a demographic problem, and is ego bound enough to get a kick out of humiliating us awhile....

I could see us being exiled to Siberia, China would get a kick out of humbling us in their economic zone or mines....

"surviving" may be doable but "living" yeah that died in 2008...

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 02:07 PM (LRFds)

141 And they eat a lot. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 22, 2013 06:04 PM (l86i3) ahaha

Posted by: beach mango foxtrot at January 22, 2013 02:08 PM (LpQbZ)

142 132 Fritz,

Brazil

No seriously the smart play is to sit it out....

next big one will be bad and I am pretty sure I am not in the "dying for free shit for freeloaders for patriotism" army.....

Obama won't allow us to export Freedom fuck Bush did not export freedom....


nah this gun's retired.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 02:09 PM (LRFds)

143

I'll bet they're not talking about 'global warming' in Russia right now.

 

Aren't they digging out from their worst winter in like, 70 years?

 

That's the thing...

'Global warming' is nothing new...and neither is global cooling.

 

The Earth's climate has always been going through gradual changes, long before us puny humans were burning fossil fuels.

 

I'm not saying we should ignore the issue of polution...we should continue to develop ways to cut down on polution, that are economically feasable.

 

But the control freaks are using the issue to further their agenda of a socialist takeover.

 

Posted by: wheatie at January 22, 2013 02:09 PM (fH4X9)

144 "I have no problem with other countries pissing away their wealth -- and the hypothetical, ever-dwindling wealth of their children and grandchildren -- on this. If that's what they want. Be my guest. Chin-chin." Capitalism being weakened the world over is not a Good ThingTM.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 22, 2013 02:12 PM (eqgV8)

145 14 MUMR,

maybe it is...

arcane knowledge is often a good thing MUMR, maybe we should go to some resource rich hellhole and thrive.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 02:13 PM (LRFds)

146 "145 14 MUMR, maybe it is... arcane knowledge is often a good thing MUMR, maybe we should go to some resource rich hellhole and thrive. Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 06:13 PM (LRFds) " Russia? :-P

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 22, 2013 02:14 PM (eqgV8)

147 Russia? :-P Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 22, 2013 06:14 PM (eqgV Brazille.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 22, 2013 02:15 PM (l86i3)

148 146 MUMR,

or maybe Alaska, or the Yukon, or Antarctica....what would they do if some crazy capitalists started mining in the Big Antarctic?

I really want to get away from these fuckers.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 02:15 PM (LRFds)

149

nah this gun's retired.

 


 

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 06:09 PM (LRFds)

 

 

Yup.... no more FOREIGN Adventures for me either....

 

 

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 22, 2013 02:15 PM (lZBBB)

150 147 OSP,

No no not Donna Brazille!

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 02:16 PM (LRFds)

151 @145
sven,

we are IN the resource rich hellhole. You know that.

Move outside the cities and away from GPS maps and the blues get nervous and go back to the comfortable fluorescent lights.

Posted by: T.Hunter at January 22, 2013 02:16 PM (EZl54)

152 Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 06:16 PM (LRFds) Dude, give her a chance, she's all that.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 22, 2013 02:16 PM (l86i3)

153 "147 Russia? :-P Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 22, 2013 06:14 PM (eqgV Brazille. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 22, 2013 06:15 PM (l86i3) " That's actually pretty good.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 22, 2013 02:17 PM (eqgV8)

154 151 T hunter,

I know we are why do you think I am enraged at the media....

our nation having a debt problem is the funniest thing since well...crib death.

Protect freedom, nutshot Chris Matthews.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 02:17 PM (LRFds)

155
"the chair is against the wall, the chair is against the wall",

"john has a long mustache, john has a long mustache".

Posted by: T.Hunter at January 22, 2013 02:17 PM (EZl54)

156 152 OSP,

you have concrete data that it's 'she?'

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 02:18 PM (LRFds)

157 "148 146 MUMR, or maybe Alaska, or the Yukon, or Antarctica....what would they do if some crazy capitalists started mining in the Big Antarctic? I really want to get away from these fuckers. Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 06:15 PM (LRFds) " Greenland would be an interesting place to start a new country. Let's bet on Global Warming.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 22, 2013 02:19 PM (eqgV8)

158 "150 147 OSP, No no not Donna Brazille! Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 06:16 PM (LRFds) " Eww.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 22, 2013 02:19 PM (eqgV8)

159 155 T Hunter,

If we do not start seriously mainstreaming disollution to scare these bastards back off the plate or get it we will see them install UN oversight of our economy IMHO.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 02:19 PM (LRFds)

160 no problem with other countries pissing away their wealth

Since money is what fungible means and stupidity is universal there's no way we won't be paying most of this indirectly.  Let alone the fact that pissing away $14T is bound to get Uncle Sugartits belly up to the urinal.

OTOH if someone lights up Davos I won't have to have the red vs. white shoulder imp about "helping" triage.

Posted by: DaveA at January 22, 2013 02:20 PM (hOlQL)

161 you have concrete data that it's 'she?' Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 06:18 PM (LRFds) No Carnal Knowledge, videos or photos. But using deductive reasoning, I can't imagine Slick Willy having Trannys around, he seemed to be a straight up pussy hound.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 22, 2013 02:20 PM (l86i3)

162 161 OSP,

again assumption of facts not necessarily in evidence....he had a REALLY good time in Rio and Montevideo IIRC....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 02:22 PM (LRFds)

163 "161 you have concrete data that it's 'she?' Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 06:18 PM (LRFds) No Carnal Knowledge, videos or photos. But using deductive reasoning, I can't imagine Slick Willy having Trannys around, he seemed to be a straight up pussy hound. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 22, 2013 06:20 PM (l86i3) " Are you implying that Bill Clinton might be a Sexist, discriminating against people based on their gender?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 22, 2013 02:23 PM (eqgV8)

164 163 MUMR,

we should syndicate a sitcom news show and rotate it on public access TV IMHO....

that could be gold....

outdonk the donk reporting against donks/

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 02:24 PM (LRFds)

165 "164 163 MUMR, we should syndicate a sitcom news show and rotate it on public access TV IMHO.... that could be gold.... outdonk the donk reporting against donks/ Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 06:24 PM (LRFds) " :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 22, 2013 02:25 PM (eqgV8)

166 Somebody could early announce for GOP 2016 by just flying there, taking the podium, yelling FUCK YOU and leaving.

Posted by: DaveA at January 22, 2013 02:32 PM (hOlQL)

167 And you would have to increase the Electric power grid by 130% (MORE than double it) to have eveyone driving electric cars. Problem is? We are already on the verge of Brownouts... and thats not even considering the amount we'd have to spend on the Distribution Grid.... So... the ONLY way they could do this is to destroy one of the greatest Enhancers of Freedom there is... the Personal Automobile... yep... that Invention that allows us to live where we want, shop where we wish, and NOT be controled by Central Authorities artificial Schedules... Posted by: Romeo13 at January 22, 2013 05:42 PM (lZBBB) Not totally true. Obviously we don't have the capacity, but I imagine many people would plug in at night. Not defending electric cars just sayin'!

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 22, 2013 02:32 PM (FsUAO)

168 167 Hobojerky,

yeah refrigeration, air conditioning on "global warming nights" ....

nah the grid will just magically grow.....


Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 02:36 PM (LRFds)

169 If any goons want to fire on their own people ..

Goons have homes and families too, and they might be vulnerable while the Goon of the house is out killing

Posted by: kbdabear at January 22, 2013 02:40 PM (wwsoB)

170 169 KBDaBear,

That keeps me awake at night....

I really don't want this, and that is what leads to megadeaths without pyrotechnic shows being needed.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 02:44 PM (LRFds)

171 Barry: $14 trillion? No problem. If we need the money we can always print some up

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 22, 2013 03:11 PM (jpa1s)

172 nah the grid will just magically grow..... Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 06:36 PM (LRFds) Peak electricity use is during the day. AC/wprkplaces/etc.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 22, 2013 03:34 PM (FsUAO)

173 Obama REALLY likes to compare himself to Lincoln... you know.... Lincoln... who was President during a War that Killed more Americans than any other War we've had?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 22, 2013 06:05 PM (lZBBB)

 

Not true. WWII killed more Americans than any other War we've had, but then you couldn't fucking bash Lincoln then, could you?

Posted by: troyriser at January 22, 2013 03:34 PM (vtiE6)

174 172 HoboJerky,

we have an administration, dept of energy, and religion dedicated to the notion power is evil...

I'll stay skeptical "thanks"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 22, 2013 03:40 PM (LRFds)

175 Hopefully, the FSofA will double that 14t and sink like a f*cking rock.

Posted by: Dark Ages at January 22, 2013 04:24 PM (+kznc)

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