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October 14, 2013

Deal? Maybe. Maybe Not.
— Ace

Via Hot Air, Reuters reports a possible deal to fund the government until February 15th, permitting negotiations on budgetary matters.

Actually Reuters says "mid January" and then "February 15th," in the same article. Early next year, let's call it.

The tentative framework, which is not finalized and could change, would also set up a new round of deficit-reduction negotiations that would try to strike a bargain by year's end.

At Hot Air (first link), Guy Benson says Democrats will refuse to entertain it, and of course Democrats are needed to pass anything in the Senate.

I'm curious what the media would do if it is clearer than ever it's the Democrats continuing the shutdown.

Tell a lie, I'm not curious at all. I know exactly what they'll do.

Posted by: Ace at 01:35 PM | Comments (175)
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1 Tell a lie, I'm not curious at all. I know exactly what they'll do. They'll tell us to drown. Like @politicoroger did.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 14, 2013 01:36 PM (T0NGe)

2 That's not urine, it's rain.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 14, 2013 01:37 PM (+YFcy)

3 If the Rethuglicans weren't so mean and proposing such draconian cuts to essential programs, the Senate wouldn't have its hands tied. And our Low Information President wouldn't have to be all leader-y.

Posted by: Mainstream Media at October 14, 2013 01:38 PM (yFb77)

4 Your mouth. Sorry.

Posted by: EC at October 14, 2013 01:38 PM (doBIb)

5

If there is a deal, the taxpayers took it hard up the squeaker!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 14, 2013 01:39 PM (pJF+c)

6 The Dems think this fight is going great for them. They want another similar fight next year closer to the election.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 14, 2013 01:39 PM (ZPrif)

7 Team Obama has already said they don't care how long the shut down lasts. Media? *crickets*

Posted by: Lauren at October 14, 2013 01:39 PM (ELdpj)

8 Rand Paul certainly is extreme. He hates puppies.

Posted by: Mainstream Media at October 14, 2013 01:40 PM (yFb77)

9 La la la la la la la la la. I can't hear you.

Posted by: MFM at October 14, 2013 01:40 PM (nsOJa)

10 From WaPo: ---- The outline of the emerging Senate deal is this: The government is funded until Jan. 15. The debt ceiling is lifted until Feb. 7. There are a handful of small Affordable Care Act changes: Stronger income verification, which Republicans want, and a one-year delay on the reinsurance tax, which Democrats want. Oh, and there's a bicameral budget committee that needs to report back by Dec. 13. The timing of all this is designed to create a fight about sequestration. The Jan. 15 deadline means funding for the federal government runs out at the exact moment sequestration's deeper cuts kick in. The Dec. 13 deadline means that the full House and Senate would have time to consider any package of recommendations the bicameral committee comes up with, if the committee actually manages to come up with anything. The deal isn't official yet. It hasn't passed the Senate yet. And it certainly hasn't passed the House yet. But if it does clear those hurdles -- and, again, that's a big if -- it'll mean Republicans and Democrats have agreed to take what began as a fight over the Affordable Care Act and make it into a fight over sequestration. That's what the Democrats want. It's also what some Republicans, including Rep. Paul Ryan and Grover Norquist want. But it's not been what the Ted Cruz wing of the Republican Party wants. The question now is how much pull they really have. This, from Robert Costa, suggests the answer might be "less than they did a few weeks ago":

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 14, 2013 01:40 PM (ZPrif)

The Senate Democrats won't agree to it because.....

Ted Cruz.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at October 14, 2013 01:41 PM (PZ6/M)

12 No idea what the reinusrance tax is or why the Dems want a one year delay on it.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 14, 2013 01:41 PM (ZPrif)

13 I'll never let it happen. Bwahahahahahaha!

Posted by: T. Cruz, evil genius at October 14, 2013 01:41 PM (5H6zj)

14 ....and fuck this one in particular. Meow.

Posted by: eureka! at October 14, 2013 01:41 PM (hmMJD)

15 BITE THE PILLOW RETHUGLIKANS!!!

Posted by: The Dude at October 14, 2013 01:41 PM (vJdyz)

16 12 No idea what the reinusrance tax is or why the Dems want a one year delay on it. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 14, 2013 05:41 PM (ZPrif) If the Dems want it it means we get reamed up the old wazoo

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at October 14, 2013 01:41 PM (9+ccr)

17
"Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 14, 2013 01:42 PM (kdS6q)

18 "I'm curious what the media would do if it is clearer than ever it's the Democrats continuing the shutdown."

The GOP have been horribly unclear in their messaging from the get-go.

I attempted an Olympic caliber quadruple facepalm (involving the soles of both feet in addition to both hands) over this gem from Marlin Stutzman, R-IN:

"We're not going to be disrespected. We have to get something out of this. And I donÂ’t know what that even is."

He doesn't even know what the fuck he wants out of the showdown? Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. What I instantly heard in my head was this:

"I'm smart. Not like people say. I'm smart and I want respect!"

Protip: when your message is so confused and dumb that people instantly think of Fredo being taken out to be shot, you better not even air that message.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 14, 2013 01:42 PM (gqT4g)

19 How the fuck can the Batmobile from Hamtramck Schumbagel be an 'authentic 1966' model if it's made to order?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 14, 2013 01:43 PM (xbjUC)

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 14, 2013 05:40 PM (ZPrif)

Norquest seems to be big on incrementalism. It's not ideal but perhaps it's a decent start?

I'm unsure.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 14, 2013 01:43 PM (Sj72w)

The biggest problem we have is the media. How do we fix that?

If people can get accurate information we win. But how to do it?

Posted by: petunia at October 14, 2013 01:43 PM (DAcBA)

And remember, folks - we are here because of how the Debt Ceiling Crisis of 2011 played out (the reason for the sequester in the first place). After that was resolved, the American debt was greater than our GDP for the first time since FDR:

http://is.gd/AL5P1q

But what the heck? Let's kick this can down the road some more and let someone else deal with it later on...

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at October 14, 2013 01:44 PM (PZ6/M)

23 If Ted Cruz would give me back Timmy, I might deal.

Posted by: Harry Reid, Pedarist at October 14, 2013 01:44 PM (0FSuD)

24 Dear GOP,

Please make the Vitter Amendment your final and only demand. Take what we can get now and live to fight another day.

- Serious Cat

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 14, 2013 01:44 PM (UypUQ)

Deal or No Deal??

Posted by: Howie Mandell at October 14, 2013 01:44 PM (N3Al8)

26 Michelle Obama has some really great water-drinking tips that you should check out after you have finished reading about how stupid (and diabolically treacherous) all Republicans are. Republicans name all their favorite teams "Redskins".

Posted by: Mainstream Media at October 14, 2013 01:45 PM (yFb77)

27 I dunno why, but I just recalled that episode of SPARTACUS with the Decimation scene. Weird, eh?

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 01:45 PM (uoB45)

28 I gotcher deal, right here.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at October 14, 2013 01:45 PM (x3YFz)

29 Another committee? Like the Simpson-Bowles committee? Is Obama all like 'I totally agree to possibly read the report when I forget to bring my iPad to the shitter as long as it's printed on 8-ply Egyptian cotton toilet tissue. Pinky-swear this time guys. Regarding adoption of anything in the report, pull my finger. C'mon, pull my finger!'

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at October 14, 2013 01:45 PM (2iHnw)

30 Don't call my bluff, whitey

Posted by: Barky McBamastain at October 14, 2013 01:45 PM (Pr6hk)

31 How the fuck can the Batmobile from Hamtramck Schumbagel be an 'authentic 1966' model if it's made to order?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 14, 2013 05:43 PM (xbjUC)

why would you want a "authentic 1966 model"? The thing barely went over 10mph

Posted by: The Dude at October 14, 2013 01:45 PM (vJdyz)

32 Timmy has such nice hair and a cute little.... Why Ted? Let him come back. I have gotten "behind" in my work.

Posted by: Harry Reid, Pedarist at October 14, 2013 01:46 PM (0FSuD)

33 MFM delenda est. Not that it would do any good. Because Ineverabur Doom!

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 14, 2013 01:46 PM (qyfb5)

34
I'm going with the Washington Foreskins Costas, you pussy.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 14, 2013 01:46 PM (pJF+c)

35 Okay, this whole Tell a Lie colloquialism is annoying me already. What's it's origin? Southern? NYC?

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 14, 2013 01:46 PM (ZshNr)

36 This reeks of a false flag operation

Posted by: Alex Jones at October 14, 2013 01:46 PM (Pr6hk)

37 Would appreciate your prayers right now.

My husband lost his job today. A lot of folks are in the same boat, I know, but we're pretty f*****g terrified.

Thanks guys.

Posted by: Filly at October 14, 2013 01:47 PM (Sdl8i)

38 Reuters reports a possible deal to fund the government until February 15th I think the Republicans should give them just enough funds to last until February 2nd, Groundhog Day. We'll let that furry little creature decide. By furry little creature I mean Ted Cruz, of course.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 14, 2013 01:47 PM (U2UQk)

39 @robertcostaNRO House GOP nearly silent right now, beyond top-level leadership talks. No whip mtgs, not mtgs about Sen deal, some mbrs still flying back...

@robertcostaNRO RT @jeffzeleny Senate Rs will get a chance to see the deal they've been hearing about all day tomorrow at 11 during their GOP caucus mtg

@ChadPergram WH Deputy CoS Rob Nabors huddling with Pelosi and House Dem Leaders in her office now

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 14, 2013 01:47 PM (YjDyJ)

40
What seems to be the problem, Ted? Is it the down payment or the monthly payment?

Posted by: Honest Harry Reid at October 14, 2013 01:47 PM (bkTIc)

41
Buck up Filly, better days ahead.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 14, 2013 01:47 PM (pJF+c)

42 Can anyone put a number on how much instantaneous debt gets piled on day one of a ceiling increase ? The debt has been frozen since May by Treasury's fucking about . Half a trillion ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at October 14, 2013 01:47 PM (1jQhu)

43 Does Susan Collins think it a good deal

Posted by: SH at October 14, 2013 01:47 PM (ETWo2)

44 These republicans really have learned nothing, have they

Posted by: Bashar al Assad at October 14, 2013 01:47 PM (Pr6hk)

45 Best wishes, Filly.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 14, 2013 01:48 PM (ZshNr)

46 And I stand corrected: obama is occasionally leading. Two examples of obama's recent "moves" include shutting down Amber Alert and, this is a good one, denying death benefits for fallen troops.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 01:48 PM (uoB45)

47 "I'm curious what the media would do if it is clearer than ever it's the Democrats continuing the shutdown."

I'm still feeling better about this round as more people get to experience the petty tyrant's actions. Blocking war memorials rings a hateful bell with a large audience even when not told directly who the culprit is. Kinda side steps the MFM's bias.

Posted by: dogfish at October 14, 2013 01:48 PM (nsOJa)

48 Would appreciate your prayers right now. My husband lost his job today. A lot of folks are in the same boat, I know, but we're pretty f*****g terrified. Posted by: Filly at October 14, 2013 05:47 PM (Sdl8i) You got it, as hopefully do we all. Because the psycho control freaks ain't done terrifying us yet.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 14, 2013 01:48 PM (qyfb5)

49 Timmy can help me at my clinic! I'm a podiatrist!

Posted by: Harry Reid at October 14, 2013 01:48 PM (yFb77)

50 37 Would appreciate your prayers right now.

My husband lost his job today. A lot of folks are in the same boat, I know, but we're pretty f*****g terrified.

Thanks guys.

Posted by: Filly at October 14, 2013 05:47 PM (Sdl8i)

Texas, or North Dakota. Jobs to be had, esp. ND.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 14, 2013 01:48 PM (OZmbA)

51 37 Would appreciate your prayers right now.

My husband lost his job today. A lot of folks are in the same boat, I know, but we're pretty f*****g terrified.

Thanks guys.

Posted by: Filly at October 14, 2013 05:47 PM (Sdl8i)

Hang in there.

Posted by: tangonine at October 14, 2013 01:48 PM (x3YFz)

52 Even I can tell this won't be a good deal

Posted by: Charles Ponzi at October 14, 2013 01:49 PM (Pr6hk)

53 Why should Democrats negotiate when Republicans have pre-announced they're going to capitulate to anything Democrats want? The thing about poker is that a) you have to have a hand a b) you have to be willing to play your hand. Republicans don't want to stop ObamaCare. Republicans don't want to stop the spending. Republicans don't want to stand for anything. So why exactly should Democrats give one inch? If I'm Democrats, I'm telling Republicans I want a blow job at the end of the process or no deal.

Posted by: someguy at October 14, 2013 01:49 PM (8XRrT)

54 The Senate Democrats won't agree to it because..... Ted Cruz. *** I'm wondering at what point in the "negotiations" they agree to let the Republicans win "something" in exchange for running Cruz out of the Senate.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 01:49 PM (DmNpO)

55 36 This reeks of a false flag operation Posted by: Alex Jones at October 14, 2013 05:46 PM (Pr6hk) I agree totally. This is the third or fourth BS "deal" that has been floated.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 14, 2013 01:49 PM (0FSuD)

Your move Mr. Cruz.

Posted by: polynikes at October 14, 2013 01:49 PM (m2CN7)

57 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 14, 2013 05:41 PM (ZPrif) The legislation says fee. Yet they use the word tax. Nuff said.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 14, 2013 01:49 PM (/djtm)

58 AND, while all of this is going on, the NSA and IRS are still busy suppressing the future vote of conservatives.

Posted by: Soona at October 14, 2013 01:50 PM (3Mz5/)

59 Posted by: Filly

Wilco.

Posted by: dogfish at October 14, 2013 01:50 PM (nsOJa)

60 Actually Reuters says "mid January" and then "February 15th,"

Close enough for government work.

Posted by: Methos at October 14, 2013 01:50 PM (hO9ad)

61 Dear HotAir.com,

You fucking site code sucks. The avalanche of ads/videos is out of hand. O'care exchanges may not work, but at least they don't freeze up my browser and force me to shut it down from task manager.

- Serious Cat

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 14, 2013 01:50 PM (UypUQ)

62

I have found who I can stand up to and fight.

The citizens of the United States

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at October 14, 2013 01:50 PM (Pr6hk)

"How the fuck can the Batmobile from Hamtramck Schumbagel be an 'authentic 1966' model if it's made to order?"

Ooooh... doth thith mean I get to wear my new Robin cothtume? Thuper!

Posted by: RichGayDude at October 14, 2013 01:50 PM (Q52VH)

I'M GOING TO YELL ....

OBAMA AND THE DEMS ARE GOING TO REJECT ANY AND ALL OFFERS. THEY WILL DO THIS BECAUSE THEY KNOW OBAMACARE HAS AND WILL DEVASTATE THE ECONOMY. THEY CAN'T AVOID IT AT THIS POINT. SO THEY ARE GOING TO LET THE U.S. GO INTO DEFAULT AND WRECK THE ECONOMY -- AND THEN THEY WILL TRUST THE MEDIA TO HELP THEM BLAME REPUBLICANS AND "TEA PARTIERS."

THERE IS NO OFFER THE GOP CAN MAKE. EVERY OFFER WILL BE REJECTED. WE ARE HEADED FOR DEFAULT AND ECONOMIC DISASTER BECAUSE DEMS NEED IT TO COVER UP FOR OBAMACARE.

Posted by: uncle jj at October 14, 2013 01:50 PM (0Ng9R)

65 25 Deal or No Deal?? ---- No Deal!

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at October 14, 2013 01:50 PM (7mQyC)

66 Thanks guys. Posted by: Filly at October 14, 2013 05:47 PM (Sdl8i) It's always darkest before the sun rises. God will look after you all.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 14, 2013 01:51 PM (0FSuD)

67 Okay,found a Godzilla 2014 trailer.I don't think the big guy himself is the monsters(s?) see in it though. http://youtu.be/iAO7BIeMR-Y

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2013 01:51 PM (9XBK2)

68 Filly, you and your husband are in my prayers.

Posted by: Furious George at October 14, 2013 01:51 PM (yFb77)

69 Obamacare Exchange Offers Voter Registration

But Serious You Guys, we have to roll over and play dead because that's what will win us elections.

Losing.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 14, 2013 01:52 PM (xbjUC)

70 Would appreciate your prayers right now. My husband lost his job today. A lot of folks are in the same boat, I know, but we're pretty f*****g terrified. Thanks guys. *** I'm sorry to hear that. Prayers said for you and your family. {{{{{hug}}}}}

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 01:52 PM (DmNpO)

71 If you are not a calm and assertive leader to your Democrat, they will shit on the new carpet

Posted by: Ceasar Milan at October 14, 2013 01:52 PM (Pr6hk)

72 Fuck it.

Shut down all payments to able-bodied people under the age of 60, permanently. I'm ready, as I have my:

1. Colt M1911A Navy, for stopping individual people at short to medium range.

2. AA-12 Auto Assault-Shotgun, for stopping large numbers of people at short range (comes with a 32-round drum magazine).

3. Barrett M82A1, 50 cal. Sniper Rifle for exploding people or their vehicles from a mile away, and,

4. Bushmaster AR-15 for mowing down row after row of hungry Democrats after the Apocalypse at medium to long range.

These just about cover everything except shooting down aircraft or sinking ships.

No more unbalanced budgets.

March or Die, bitches.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 14, 2013 01:52 PM (5mRmR)

73 Serious Cat, you should get NoScript for Firefox. There are no ads anywhere on the internet, and you can block all the pictures of Fat Ed's fat head with a few simple asterisks in the photoblock option

Posted by: imp at October 14, 2013 01:52 PM (L9AnB)

74
I regret that I have but one country to sacrifice to my masters.

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 14, 2013 01:53 PM (bkTIc)

75 Posted by: uncle jj at October 14, 2013 05:50 PM (0Ng9R) **** Put down the mug and back away from the caffeine.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 01:53 PM (DmNpO)

76 Shut down all payments to able-bodied people under the age of 60, permanently. I'm ready, as I have my:

1. Colt M1911A Navy, for stopping individual people at short to medium range.

2. AA-12 Auto Assault-Shotgun, for stopping large numbers of people at short range (comes with a 32-round drum magazine).

3. Barrett M82A1, 50 cal. Sniper Rifle for exploding people or their vehicles from a mile away, and,

4. Bushmaster AR-15 for mowing down row after row of hungry Democrats after the Apocalypse at medium to long range.

These just about cover everything except shooting down aircraft or sinking ships.

No more unbalanced budgets.

March or Die, bitches.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 14, 2013 05:52 PM (5mRmR)

Go on...

Posted by: NSA at October 14, 2013 01:53 PM (x3YFz)

77 Sorry to hear about your husband, Filly. I will keep you and he in prayer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 14, 2013 01:53 PM (a4Omg)

78 Serious Cat, you should get NoScript for Firefox. There are no ads anywhere on the internet, and you can block all the pictures of Fat Ed's fat head with a few simple asterisks in the photoblock option

Posted by: imp at October 14, 2013 05:52 PM (L9AnB)

But what if you like seeing ads?

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 14, 2013 01:54 PM (UypUQ)

79 These just about cover everything except shooting down aircraft or sinking ships. No more unbalanced budgets. March or Die, bitches. Posted by: Sharkman at October 14, 2013 05:52 PM (5mRmR Er, you forgot about me.

Posted by: Abrams M1A at October 14, 2013 01:54 PM (0FSuD)

80 73

Serious Cat, you should get NoScript for Firefox. There are no ads anywhere on the internet, and you can block all the pictures of Fat Ed's fat head with a few simple asterisks in the photoblock option

Posted by: imp at October 14, 2013 05:52 PM (L9AnB)

We use Ghostery. it also shuts down all those google critters.

Posted by: NSA at October 14, 2013 01:54 PM (x3YFz)

81
What seems to be the problem, Ted? Is it the down payment or the monthly payment?
Posted by: Honest Harry Reid

Hey, do I look like an idiot? I'll take the undercoating AND the Scotchguard.

Posted by: Trusting John Boehner

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 14, 2013 01:54 PM (kdS6q)

82 Hang in there filly

Posted by: Thunderb at October 14, 2013 01:54 PM (zOTsN)

83 Okay,found a Godzilla 2014 trailer.I don't think the big guy himself is the monsters(s?) see in it though. ------ Not a real trailer, the clips of NY at night are from Cloverfield.

Posted by: Adam at October 14, 2013 01:54 PM (Aif/5)

84 Republican congressmen, I implore you to take this deal, so the people will not be deprived of his creases another day

Posted by: David Brooks at October 14, 2013 01:55 PM (Pr6hk)

85 Sharkman at October 14, 2013 05:52 PM --- That's the spirit!

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at October 14, 2013 01:55 PM (7mQyC)

86 But what if you like seeing ads?

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 14, 2013 05:54 PM (UypUQ)

/blink

Posted by: NSA at October 14, 2013 01:55 PM (x3YFz)

87 There sure are a lot of rumors of deals floating around. Who is that supposed to mollify?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 14, 2013 01:55 PM (4Fpt9)

88 Are you guys ready for The Kick In The Balls? [What are you talking aboot, soothie?] Right after obama gets what he wants on this, Republicans are going right to work to pass obama's Amnesty.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 01:55 PM (uoB45)

89 It's supposed to make weak house members take the bait

Posted by: Thunderb at October 14, 2013 01:56 PM (zOTsN)

90 Taking a democrat deal is as smart as me trying a singing career without Simon

Posted by: Garfunkel at October 14, 2013 01:56 PM (Pr6hk)

91 37 Would appreciate your prayers right now. My husband lost his job today. A lot of folks are in the same boat, I know, but we're pretty f*****g terrified. Thanks guys. Prayers on the way !!!

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at October 14, 2013 01:56 PM (anek1)

92 Right after obama gets what he wants on this, Republicans are going right to work to pass obama's Amnesty. *** What makes you think we ever stopped?

Posted by: Paul Ryan at October 14, 2013 01:57 PM (DmNpO)

93 Make special offer to all Kulaks

Posted by: Joseph Stalin at October 14, 2013 01:57 PM (Pr6hk)

94 I'm so sorry , filly.

Posted by: Y-not at October 14, 2013 01:57 PM (5H6zj)

95 "Dear HotAir.com, You fucking site code sucks"

Warm Flatus has been a giant mess for a while now.

It continues to amaze me that circa 2013, it's still possible to write shitty enough Javascript to paralyze or crash a modern browser. The folks at Hot Air routinely prove it can be done.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 14, 2013 01:57 PM (gqT4g)

96 Curious how all these deals that didn't happen were exactly what people who said they had predicted what would happen were crowing about having forecasted just a scant weekend ago. I'm sure they're still right. Forevermore.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 14, 2013 01:58 PM (ZshNr)

97 I guess Obama will prioritize the cuts to hurt (middle class) whites, seniors and the military. Unless he does something sneaky and hits the EBT cards, and then blames the Tea Party for hating on the poor blacks... One thing for sure, the military will be hurt.

Posted by: Baldy at October 14, 2013 01:58 PM (tyDFN)

98 If they do this, it will be delayed on more time, to take place either right before the election or some time after (it doesn't matter at that point).

Posted by: fawkes at October 14, 2013 01:58 PM (Djwm9)

99 We can't allow this to go another day

Posted by: Low Information Senator at October 14, 2013 01:58 PM (Pr6hk)

100 21 The biggest problem we have is the media. How do we fix that? If people can get accurate information we win. But how to do it? Posted by: petunia at October 14, 2013 05:43 PM (DAcBA) In small steps. First we constantly denounce the media as propaganda agents. Second we look to patronize alternative sources. Third we attack them with lawfare in any way we can. Fourth, we absolutely refuse to grant them respect or access. And so forth. We have to try everything of which we can think. But whatever we do, we have to take away the ability of Liberal Democrats in control of Microphones, to hurt us. They are the greatest threat we face.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 01:58 PM (bb5+k)

101 Thanks guys. We just signed a lease on an apartment and so are stuck for at least 10 months or so. Fortunately it's just our two mouths to feed. We trust that God has a plan but we've been bumping around the country for about 5 years now and nothing seems to pan out... yet.

I know your prayers will make a difference, and they are greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

Posted by: Filly at October 14, 2013 01:58 PM (Sdl8i)

102

Posted by: torquewrench at October 14, 2013 05:57 PM (gqT4g)

well, they are owned by the Townhall people

Posted by: The Dude at October 14, 2013 01:59 PM (vJdyz)

103 Hugs Filly! When one door closes, God always opens another.

Posted by: Jmel at October 14, 2013 01:59 PM (cfFqn)

104 Rand Paul certainly is extreme. He hates puppies.

He's just never had one prepared correctly.

Posted by: Barack "dog chow" Obama at October 14, 2013 01:59 PM (JawqV)

105

Posted by: torquewrench at October 14, 2013 05:57 PM (gqT4g)

Do we forgive this site for its crappy rendering code since it's 1990s tech? (my tablet gets sluggish after about 50 comments.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 14, 2013 01:59 PM (Sj72w)

106 Hearing about deals from the MSM is like hearing that the Republican presidential candidate with the best chance to win is John McCain. Lucy, bring the football!

Posted by: fawkes at October 14, 2013 02:00 PM (Djwm9)

107 Actually Reuters says "mid January" and then "February 15th," in the same article. Early next year, let's call it. *** The different dates apply; one to the debt limit and one to the spending bill. No mention of any compromises on behalf of the Dems and the deal may possibly allow for an extension of the debt limit date. WIN!

Posted by: Paul Ryan at October 14, 2013 02:00 PM (DmNpO)

108 Then you can whitelist the ad source servers like googleadservices, doubleclick, etc. if you really want to, weirdo.

Actual ads aren't blocked unless you do adblock, only java scripting, which are the most annoying ads.

Posted by: imp at October 14, 2013 02:00 PM (L9AnB)

109 off sock

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 02:01 PM (DmNpO)

110 Those Batmobile have been around for awhile. Some guy that must live near me has one cause I've seen seen it every once in a while for about 6-7 years. If only I could arrange a three way crash between it, the Oscar Meyer Weinermobile, and the Goodyear blimp, I could throw away my bucket list. Maybe as part of the Senate deal.....

Posted by: Clicky Click at October 14, 2013 02:01 PM (0cMkb)

111

When I worked in South FL sometimes I had lunch at the Billabong Pub near I-95 and Pembroke Blvd. They served 112 kinds of beer from around the world and the best burgers going. Now that's a hill to die on....

Posted by: Regular Guy at October 14, 2013 02:01 PM (N3Al8)

112 105 Posted by: torquewrench at October 14, 2013 05:57 PM (gqT4g)

Do we forgive this site for its crappy rendering code since it's 1990s tech? (my tablet gets sluggish after about 50 comments.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 14, 2013 05:59 PM (Sj72w)

Really? I can run AoS on a TRS-80.

Posted by: tangonine at October 14, 2013 02:01 PM (x3YFz)

113 No Deal. Talks have been 'postponed'.

Posted by: wheatie at October 14, 2013 02:01 PM (7CgKa)

114 Bob Dole thinks that these current Republicans should listen to Bob Dole. You never win an election unless you play to the center like Bob Dole.

Posted by: Bob Dole at October 14, 2013 02:02 PM (Pr6hk)

115 Thanks guys. We just signed a lease on an apartment and so are stuck for at least 10 months or so. Fortunately it's just our two mouths to feed. We trust that God has a plan but we've been bumping around the country for about 5 years now and nothing seems to pan out... yet. *** What kind of work does he do. There are thousands of folks who visit this site every day and someone may have a lead.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 02:02 PM (DmNpO)

116 okay, since someone else brought it up above, re: the sidebar

Is that SpaceX launch real? Doesn't look like it to me...

Apologies if this was discussed previously, but I do have laundry to finish and dinner to fix, and, seriously you guys, I just can't keep up with all the comments!!!

Posted by: DishofRed at October 14, 2013 02:02 PM (Dmq63)

117 No Deal. Talks have been 'postponed'.

Outstanding.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 14, 2013 02:02 PM (l5zzX)

118 Eat it, suckers. 1. DEFUND! 2. DELAY! 3. FUND, BUT AT CURRENT LEVELS! 4. REMOVE SEQUESTER! 5. INCREASE SPENDING! At this rate you'll be raising taxes and pushing the expansion of Medicare.

Posted by: Daily Kos at October 14, 2013 02:03 PM (PRPp1)

119

fuck it.

gonna go play cornhole.

you guys figure it out.

Posted by: uncle jj at October 14, 2013 02:03 PM (0Ng9R)

120 But, I thought there wasn't time. Gabe said that it's all over.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 14, 2013 02:03 PM (qf6IX)

121

So,

Clear it is Obama will cut the funds to the Army, Navy, Air Force etal any defence shut down the border patrol and Coast Guard.

$80 Billion or so a year.

Just how could "We the People" fund this part of the Goverment ourselves direct some how and then cut that off the IRS retruns when those go in.

We need to get to thinking mean and nasty.

Posted by: fobdangerclose at October 14, 2013 02:04 PM (nrWVe)

122

Deal? We got your deal. Low miles, very little rust, just sign here and you can drive it away today !!!

Posted by: Chuck Schumer at October 14, 2013 02:04 PM (wAQA5)

123 83 Sons of bitches!I thought it looked familiar.

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2013 02:04 PM (9XBK2)

124 My only performance issues with AoSHQ is that they front-page has too many stories and too many link in the sidebar for my 1st generation iPhone (edge network -- dial-up speeds). Even with html compression, its just too much to download.

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 14, 2013 02:04 PM (UypUQ)

125 Filly, no reason to be terrified, this happens to us all at some point in our careers. May I ask what his background is?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 14, 2013 02:05 PM (Ec6wH)

126 Filly Have yiur husband pop onto an ONT or morning thread sometime. Morons might have job networking to offer.

Posted by: Y-not at October 14, 2013 02:05 PM (5H6zj)

127 Relax, Philly. Its always brightest before the shockwave. Seriously, if God is with you, who can be against you?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 14, 2013 02:05 PM (qf6IX)

128

24,000,000 voted R

$4,000 each family x the 24,000,000

$96 Billion.

Is that the math?

Posted by: fobdangerclose at October 14, 2013 02:05 PM (nrWVe)

129

Shutdown or no shutdown, I'm appropriating a couple million bucks for my birthday party. I'm going to have Beyonce and Adele sing. Maybe a duet. I'll leave some cake crumbs for the public at the back door.

http://bit.ly/169oVBY

Posted by: Michelle Obama at October 14, 2013 02:06 PM (B5y+v)

130

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 14, 2013 06:04 PM (UypUQ)

I can't explain it but get typing lag I don't get anywhere else (or on short threads)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 14, 2013 02:07 PM (Sj72w)

131 I just can't keep up with all the comments!!! Posted by: DishofRed Um, then why are you in the comments section of a busy blog?

Posted by: imp at October 14, 2013 02:07 PM (L9AnB)

132 Remember the Big Win that Republicans got over the debt ceiling fight last year before Ted Cruz stuck his big nose in it and ruined everything?

Posted by: Warden at October 14, 2013 02:09 PM (bmp0d)

133 Prayers for your family, Filly. My sister just went through the same thing. Took some time but she did find a good job. Hang in there.

Posted by: Banglabou at October 14, 2013 02:09 PM (L4wqR)

134 "What kind of work does he do. There are thousands of folks who visit this site every day and someone may have a lead."

He's a pilot, a flight instructor. Any leads would be greatly appreciated

Contact me at fillyatace AT hushmail.com

many thanks!

Posted by: Filly at October 14, 2013 02:09 PM (Sdl8i)

135 101 Thanks guys. We just signed a lease on an apartment and so are stuck for at least 10 months or so. Fortunately it's just our two mouths to feed. We trust that God has a plan but we've been bumping around the country for about 5 years now and nothing seems to pan out... yet.

I know your prayers will make a difference, and they are greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

Posted by: Filly at October 14, 2013 05:58 PM (Sdl8i)

Prayers do make a difference. Will keep you in mine.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 02:09 PM (lVPtV)

136 If nothing else, when upset or sad,
just tell your Congressman or Senator:
"Sit on a Cucumber."
It will make you laugh and
make him mad.

Posted by: Baldy at October 14, 2013 02:09 PM (tyDFN)

137 Filly, 101 - There were a few years in the wilderness for my wife and I a while back. It's tough on you and probably tougher on him. Now self employed, with four other guys. I never know where my next meal will come from, but finally we are better off. Hang in there, try everything, and don't lose hope. A prayer coming your way.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at October 14, 2013 02:10 PM (x4x3r)

138
Back in DC for a week. It'll be interesting to see just how 'shut down' the city is. (I suspect not at all, but I'll see).

Note about CGI Federal a few posts down. They fucked up so badly in Canada, that the govt dropped them, so natch Obama picks them. Now just connect the dots, and I'm sure we'll find all kinds of dem donors under that hood.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 14, 2013 02:10 PM (sCynV)

139 Er, you forgot about me.

Posted by: Abrams M1A at October 14, 2013 05:54 PM (0FSuD)

Yeah, you're probably right. Might actually have to sink a ship or shoot down an aircraft by the time this is over. Hmmm, come to think of it, the A-10 is slated to be shelved. Perhaps that would be a good acquisition, too (for personal defense only, of course).

[Dailing 1-GET-KILL-GEAR. . . . ]

Posted by: Sharkman at October 14, 2013 02:10 PM (5mRmR)

140 Filly, is your husband a vet? Our son attended a vet jobs fair today, and is on his way home with applications.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 02:10 PM (lVPtV)

141 127 Relax, Philly. Its always brightest before the shockwave.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 14, 2013 06:05 PM (qf6IX)

SO stealing that!

Posted by: tangonine at October 14, 2013 02:11 PM (x3YFz)

142 138
Back in DC for a week. It'll be interesting to see just how 'shut down' the city is. (I suspect not at all, but I'll see).

Note about CGI Federal a few posts down. They fucked up so badly in Canada, that the govt dropped them, so natch Obama picks them. Now just connect the dots, and I'm sure we'll find all kinds of dem donors under that hood.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 14, 2013 06:10 PM (sCynV)

If you see any of our Betters while out to dinner, please "trip" and spill a drink or three on them.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 02:12 PM (lVPtV)

143 Deroy Murdock has a pretty good, plenty angry post on NRO about how the Democrats are the ones that should be blamed for no deal going forward. He outlines how Reid shot down Sen. Collins ultra-moderate offer:

"CollinsÂ’ plan could not have been milder:

- Re-open the federal government immediately
- Increase the national-debt ceiling until January 31, 2014
- Fund the federal government for six months
- Delay ObamaCareÂ’s medical-device tax for two years
- Verify that those who want Obamacare subsidies qualify for them.
- Let agencies prioritize spending, so long as they obey budget-sequester limits
....
CollinsÂ’ pitch offered plenty to please Obama and Democrats.
...
...a majority of Democrats would rather keep Washington in limbo than spare jobs from the medical-device tax or prevent fraud in Obamacare."

http://natl.re/1aG52oI

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 14, 2013 02:12 PM (UypUQ)

144 He's a pilot, a flight instructor. Any leads would be greatly appreciated Just watched a tv program this morning where a pilot went from 20k per year to 18k per MONTH flying in China. Flying little regional aircraft. He should 'ask around'.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 14, 2013 02:13 PM (U2UQk)

145 What part of the country Filly and what does hubby do?

Posted by: weirdflunky at October 14, 2013 02:13 PM (UmT72)

146
If you see any of our Betters while out to dinner, please "trip" and spill a drink or three on them.

If by 'Betters', you mean John McShitty, and by 'spill a drink', you mean piss on him.....it's on my to do list.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 14, 2013 02:14 PM (sCynV)

147 THis may sound cavaliar and it's not intended to be because we have been in a similair position, filly, but there was a post on here today somewhere which talked about a pilot aking big money in flying in China. I'm not sure how you research that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 14, 2013 02:14 PM (a4Omg)

148 >>>SO stealing that! I sso stole that bitch myself that I scraped the serial number off'n it.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 14, 2013 02:15 PM (qf6IX)

149

138...Note about CGI Federal a few posts down. They fucked up so badly in Canada, that the govt dropped them, so natch Obama picks them.

Well of course.

They *want* Ocare to fail.

Success was never a goal...they want it to be a gigantic clusterfuck, so they can offer Single Payer as the fix for it.

And I still hate that term...'Single Payer'.

It's camouflage for Government Controlled Healthcare.

Posted by: wheatie at October 14, 2013 02:15 PM (7CgKa)

150 I can't explain it but get typing lag I don't get anywhere else (or on short threads)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 14, 2013 06:07 PM (Sj72w)

Hmmm, you might want to wait a while for the JavaScript stuff related to the comment form loads. I know sometimes if I try to use it too soon after a page refreshes, not all the functionality is there right away and it freezes a bit.

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 14, 2013 02:15 PM (UypUQ)

151

I know your prayers will make a difference, and they are greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

Posted by: Filly at October 14, 2013 05:58 PM (Sdl8i)

Prayer works. I wouldn't do it if it didn't work. All the best for your husband and yourself.

Posted by: troyriser at October 14, 2013 02:16 PM (V9ol4)

152 Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 05:58 PM (bb5+k) Roger. Threw the local paper with my mom 40 years ago. Has read that paper for 45 plus years. Dropped personal subscription about 3 years ago. Talked boss into dropping company subscription about 3 months ago. Sad thing is the paper is really well done. Just had enough of the editorial board. Prayers up for Filly. Things work out and nothing is permanent.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 14, 2013 02:17 PM (zg42c)

153 holy shit are yoy watching CNN? they're showing furloughed fed employees at food banks! what's next, soup lines??

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 02:17 PM (uoB45)

154 Saw that supposedly a real trailer will be out November 3rd.

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2013 02:18 PM (9XBK2)

155
Last time they didn't raise the debt ceiling, the Treasury said well wait... we can move this here and that there and voila!...we have 3 more months.

So whatever you say bastards in the WH and Congress, we know its all BS, the goal is to create a feeling that more and more govt is always needed.

I'll make a deal, you get whatever you can graft until the collapse and I will avoid as many taxes as possible and prepare for the collapse and we will call it even.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 14, 2013 02:18 PM (N8z9m)

156 If by 'Betters', you mean John McShitty, and by 'spill a drink', you mean piss on him.....it's on my to do list.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 14, 2013 06:14 PM (sCynV)

You could "accidentally" spill a fake colostomy bag on the fucker. Keep an eye out for Miss Lindsey, too. If you see Hairy Reed, play blind and slam into the old bastard.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 02:18 PM (lVPtV)

157

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 14, 2013 06:15 PM (UypUQ)

I've left the page sit for a long time. Something eats processor cylces on the tiny processor the surface has.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 14, 2013 02:18 PM (Sj72w)

158
Well of course.
They *want* Ocare to fail.

Success was never a goal...they want it to be a gigantic clusterfuck, so they can offer Single Payer as the fix for it.

Thankfully we have John "Brick Wall" Boehner to hold the line against any....such....

Fuck. Never mind.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 14, 2013 02:19 PM (sCynV)

159 Filly, you might want to check out charter outfits in parts of the country that need management personnel to be in two places at once. I'm thinking Oklahoma, Texas, North Dakota. Laus Deo.

Posted by: Furious George at October 14, 2013 02:20 PM (yFb77)

160

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 06:17 PM (uoB45)

WTF? they all just got a partial paycheck on Friday for hours worked before Oct. 1.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 14, 2013 02:20 PM (Sj72w)

161 Down in the Ezra Klein thread, post #319. Someone just went into the barrel.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2013 02:20 PM (uj8Oa)

162 One fed employee (black and a woman, of course, ie one of the 'hardest hit') stopped paying her car payment because she received her last paycheck... on Saturday.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 02:21 PM (uoB45)

163 I had to get hostile and very verbally abusive with the Palm Beach Post's reps before they'd stop calling trying to get me to renew.

They were calling several time a week.

I don't understand how they believe you can literally harass someone into buying your product. That never works on me. Ever.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 14, 2013 02:21 PM (l5zzX)

164
You could "accidentally" spill a fake colostomy bag on the fucker. Keep an eye out for Miss Lindsey, too. If you see Hairy Reed, play blind and slam into the old bastard.

I'd practically pass up a chance to motor boat Kate Upton's Bountiful Boobehs for a shot at that trifecta.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 14, 2013 02:22 PM (sCynV)

165 161 Down in the Ezra Klein thread, post #319. Someone just went into the barrel.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2013 06:20 PM (uj8Oa)

/shakes head

How do you misbehave on AoS so bad you get barreled? You pretty much have to walk in wearing a thong backwards with an koala under one arm and an empty box of wine under the other.

Posted by: tangonine at October 14, 2013 02:23 PM (x3YFz)

166
One fed employee (black and a woman, of course, ie one of the 'hardest hit') stopped paying her car payment because she received her last paycheck...

on Saturday.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 06:21 PM (uoB45)

Looking at the calendar... um... <raises hand>

Posted by: tangonine at October 14, 2013 02:24 PM (x3YFz)

167 Filly - an interesting point/counterpoint about flying in China http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/foreign/66156-flying-china.html

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 14, 2013 02:25 PM (U2UQk)

168 Obamacare post up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 02:27 PM (DmNpO)

169 Boehner should have passed 3 CR/Debt Limit packages, labelled them Gold, Silver, and Bronze and told Obama he gets options just like the rest of the country.

Posted by: Tech Seargent Chen at October 14, 2013 02:33 PM (AXKX1)

170 129 Shutdown or no shutdown, I'm appropriating a couple million bucks for my birthday party. I'm going to have Beyonce and Adele sing. Maybe a duet. I'll leave some cakecrumbs for the public at the back door.

http://bit.ly/169oVBY

Posted by: Michelle Obama at October 14, 2013 06:06 PM (B5y+v)

****************

I will bake a luscious cake and provide catering, gratis of course.

Posted by: paula dean at October 14, 2013 02:34 PM (rznx3)

171 #Prioritization

Posted by: toby928© hashtags it at October 14, 2013 03:03 PM (QupBk)

172 Thank you all. It's a help to know others care. It really is.

Posted by: Filly at October 14, 2013 03:31 PM (Sdl8i)

173

The "deal":

- The Rats give up their 11th-hour demand to spend more, introduced only after Paulo Ryan floated the idea of killing the sequester in exchange for an unrelated "negotiation" last week, for a mere 3 1/2 months.

- El PRL give up absolutely, positively EVERYTHING related to PlaceboCare, from defund to delay, from giving up their personal exemptions to getting back into K Street's good graces by eliminating the medical device tax (itself an exchange for fucking over the pensioners that make up a large group of the one set of GOP loyalists, the seniors, they hadn't fucked over the last 12 months) forever.

Posted by: steveegg at October 14, 2013 03:44 PM (o44nj)

174 Filly, There is a large aviation science program at our local university. Have him go to https://www.uvu.jobs/ and search in the Aviation program. I found flight instructor postings, adjunct, and assistant professor postings. They have a new dean so I think they are committed to build on what I think is already a very good program.

Posted by: Y-not at October 14, 2013 03:57 PM (5H6zj)

175 And now they're gonna give union thugs special treatment? The hell? Sounds like negotiation while the gov't is closed and debt limit isn't raised, which means Barry always was full of shit. And the will the republicans in the House vote for that?

Posted by: Schnack at October 14, 2013 04:09 PM (dCCtb)

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