March 06, 2013
— Ace Ted Cruz joined earlier, which is good.
But it's a bit of a feather in Rand Paul's cap that he's now shamed a Democrat to join.
Apparently he mentioned the legal concept of Outlawry, and made the point that someone deemed by the state to be in this hazardous legal state at least should have the right to be formally notified of such.
Sort of exactly the point I made.
Live: Here's an online feed.
Rubio's now up. Reportedly he began with a water joke.
This Is Exciting: Thoughts on restoring the nation's character to good working order.
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Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 06, 2013 12:07 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 06, 2013 12:08 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: © Sponge at March 06, 2013 12:08 PM (xmcEQ)
Liveblogging the filibuster... almost as good as when people liveblogged the debates last year. Meant I didn't have to watch them myself.
Senator Paul was en fuego earlier.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 06, 2013 12:08 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at March 06, 2013 12:09 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 06, 2013 12:09 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 06, 2013 12:09 PM (QEUX+)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 06, 2013 12:10 PM (eKiiX)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at March 06, 2013 12:10 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 06, 2013 12:10 PM (B/VB5)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 06, 2013 12:10 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 06, 2013 12:10 PM (FsUAO)
Purity Now!
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 06, 2013 12:10 PM (4cRnj)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 12:11 PM (Dnbau)
Please let this lead to a third party. Please. I'd like to vote next election.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 12:11 PM (Y/HG5)
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 12:11 PM (HS3dy)
Posted by: fireside chat at March 06, 2013 12:11 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 06, 2013 04:10 PM (eKiiX)
I honestly didn't they had any.
And until the voting public wakes the fuck up, they won't even have to fake it.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 06, 2013 12:12 PM (xmcEQ)
6 -
I do think it's possible the Scoamf jumped his shark with the sequester. He's being mocked in places that dared not do so before.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 06, 2013 12:12 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: logprof at March 06, 2013 04:12 PM (+iA5G)
Brennan's CIA appointment vote.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 06, 2013 12:12 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: fluffy at March 06, 2013 12:13 PM (ezONT)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 12:13 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 06, 2013 12:13 PM (FsUAO)
Posted by: logprof at March 06, 2013 04:12 PM (+iA5G)
Brennan's nomination with the killing of US Citizens on US soil by drones without due process as the wedge issue.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at March 06, 2013 12:13 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 06, 2013 04:10 PM (eKiiX)
Rand Paul: worker of miracles
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 06, 2013 12:13 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 12:14 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 06, 2013 12:14 PM (FsUAO)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright's Sock Puppet at March 06, 2013 04:12 PM (+OTLF)
That reminds me.
Come down to The Walnut Lounge for one night only.
BUCK FARACK!!!
Posted by: © Sponge at March 06, 2013 12:14 PM (xmcEQ)
11 -
I don't know, but if it's in the urban dictionary, I definitely don't want to find out what it is.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 06, 2013 12:14 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Melodicmetal at March 06, 2013 12:14 PM (QY9FJ)
Marco better show up.
This isn't the type of thing where you can just send you best wishes via email and take the rest of the day off.
Posted by: jwest at March 06, 2013 12:15 PM (u2a4R)
Meanwhile my fucking pussy Senator, Burr NC (R?), goes to dinner with The One tonight.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 06, 2013 12:15 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: The Black Helicopter Demographics, in their basement bunkers at March 06, 2013 12:15 PM (pmsMR)
Again, I am a huge fan, and I wish the good Senator all the very best.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 04:13 PM (piMMO)
Did you mention anywhere in there "despite is apparent brain farts voting for Hagel and......"
Posted by: © Sponge at March 06, 2013 12:15 PM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at March 06, 2013 12:15 PM (kXoT0)
"Live free or die; Death is not the worst of Evils."
-Gen John Stark, 1809
on the Anniversary of the Battle of Bennington (1777)
In case the Gang of Four is looking for some hearty quotes.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 06, 2013 12:16 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 06, 2013 12:16 PM (1Jaio)
Marco better show up.
This isn't the type of thing where you can just send you best wishes via email and take the rest of the day off.
----
Eh, actually I think it is. Most of America won't even know what is happening. Still, your strongest support must come from the base. This would be a nice way to throw them a bone. Its not even the underlying merits that matter most, its showing that you will stand up to Obama.
Posted by: SH at March 06, 2013 12:17 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 12:17 PM (Dnbau)
Obama starts hitting the circuit. Publicizing to the hilt, he is having lunch with Republicans. he's "building bridges", this "historic" president.
Republicans take the bait and have lunch with him. He takes it one step further and invites "conservatives". This is mostly for appearances but also to divide and conquer Republicans
Keep in mind Obama is focused on destroying the Republican Party.
Republicans fall for it. John McCain guffaws, Susan Collins wets herself from laughter.
Obama walks away. He laughs too. At how stupid Republicans, who now are winning confidence with voters, surrender to his silly antics so quickly.
Notice, nowhere does Obama say he's wrong. OR that he is going to stop falsely wielding the Sequester against the American people like an axe to make his point. He also is not about to cut spending.
Ding-dong dupes
Posted by: Marcus at March 06, 2013 12:17 PM (GGCsk)
Where is Jimmy Stewart when we need him?
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 06, 2013 12:17 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 12:17 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at March 06, 2013 04:15 PM (kXoT0)
Too bad nobody did something like this during the 2008 election.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 06, 2013 12:17 PM (4df7R)
"and made the point that someone deemed by the state to be in this hazardous legal state at least should have the right to be formally notified of such."
**********************
I think the drone operator yells "watch out!"
Posted by: SqGuido at March 06, 2013 12:18 PM (A0wk8)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 06, 2013 12:18 PM (GFM2b)
"Meanwhile my fucking pussy Senator, Burr NC (R?), goes to dinner with The One tonight."
Wouldn't it be great if all the republican senators scheduled to dine with the JEF sent their regrets because they were joining the fillabuster?
What a great PR move that would be.
Posted by: jwest at March 06, 2013 12:18 PM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 12:18 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: wth at March 06, 2013 12:18 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 04:17 PM (Dnbau)
Of course he will. To Obama, everything is personal.
In this instance, of course, he's completely right.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 06, 2013 12:18 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, the future Pope Ampersand I at March 06, 2013 12:19 PM (GBXon)
Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 06, 2013 12:19 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 12:19 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 06, 2013 12:19 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at March 06, 2013 12:19 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: © Sponge at March 06, 2013 12:19 PM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 06, 2013 04:18 PM (8sCoq)
Just answer me this: IS THERE A BOTTLE OF WATER ANYWHERE IN SIGHT?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 06, 2013 12:19 PM (4df7R)
So you're for allowing Obama to use drone strike against Americans on American soil?
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 06, 2013 12:20 PM (4cRnj)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright's Sock Puppet at March 06, 2013 04:17 PM (+OTLF)
lol
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 06, 2013 12:20 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 04:19 PM (LCRYB)
ADHD is a bitch.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 06, 2013 12:20 PM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 12:20 PM (HS3dy)
And I suspect there has been some back room coordination prior to this.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 06, 2013 12:21 PM (Tgggp)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 04:19 PM (LCRYB)
This is a form of a weasel.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 06, 2013 12:21 PM (X6akg)
I bet that would put Rubio's sip on the dust heap of history.
Posted by: Marcus at March 06, 2013 12:21 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 06, 2013 04:18 PM (VjL9S)
lol! Good for him!
Rule number one with dealing with a bully - take away what they use to taunt you and make it your own.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 06, 2013 12:21 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 12:21 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, the future Pope Ampersand I at March 06, 2013 12:21 PM (GBXon)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 06, 2013 12:21 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 06, 2013 12:21 PM (GFM2b)
The best part of all this. We are finally seeing the changing of the guard in the GOP in the Senate in this one moment. I find it very welcoming.
Posted by: SH at March 06, 2013 12:21 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Tami at March 06, 2013 04:21 PM (X6akg)
LOL! Tami, you also have THE perfect timing on the weasel jokes!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 06, 2013 12:22 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 06, 2013 12:22 PM (ATdet)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 12:22 PM (LCRYB)
I bet that would put Rubio's sip on the dust heap of history.
Posted by: Marcus at March 06, 2013 04:21 PM (GGCsk)
Because, surprisingly enough, you'll finish the bottle of water. Then when you have to pee, you'll have surprisingly MORE than the bottle will hold. THEN it gets messy.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 06, 2013 12:22 PM (xmcEQ)
Wyden's Ringo.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, the future Pope Ampersand I at March 06, 2013 04:21 PM (GBXon)
Mike Lee and ... Gohmert (sp?) hopped in, too.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 06, 2013 12:22 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 06, 2013 12:22 PM (4cRnj)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 12:23 PM (Dnbau)
NOTHING TO SEE HERE. LET'S TALK ABOUT A SNOW STORM THAT MY LITERALLY END LIFE AS WE KNOW IT AND MAYBE THAT NEW OZ MOVIE BECAUSE TALKING MONKEYS.
--YOUR BETTERS.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 06, 2013 12:23 PM (EDjKF)
I can guess, but please elaborate. Does it involve the whipping out of certain objects followed by a demo of how to avoid rape in CO?
Posted by: Barney Frank at March 06, 2013 12:23 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 12:23 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: fireside chat at March 06, 2013 12:23 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Peaches at March 06, 2013 12:23 PM (VISKy)
And Rubio is giving an excellent Government 101 lesson.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 06, 2013 12:23 PM (Tgggp)
Posted by: gigg at March 06, 2013 12:23 PM (41VCE)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 06, 2013 12:23 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 12:24 PM (piMMO)
"as a matter of pure theater, this is exciting and recalls an earlier era when people actually offered thoughtful defenses of their political positions. "
I think that era was before my time, I've never seen it before, but like what I'm seeing
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 12:24 PM (HS3dy)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 12:24 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 06, 2013 12:24 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 12:24 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 06, 2013 12:24 PM (YjDyJ)
Wyden's Ringo.
---
He's Stuart Sutcliffe.
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 06, 2013 04:23 PM (ATdet)
Curly Joe DeRita.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 06, 2013 12:24 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: JustLurkin' at March 06, 2013 12:25 PM (EJQEA)
I've been watching for hours. How the hell did I miss Gohmert?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 04:24 PM (piMMO)
I could have sworn he popped in right up near the beginning. I may be mistaken though.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 06, 2013 12:25 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 06, 2013 12:25 PM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 12:25 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Marcus at March 06, 2013 12:26 PM (GGCsk)
As said earlier....
this is the moment that the Young Guns define themselves, and their roll in the Republican Party.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 06, 2013 12:26 PM (Tgggp)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 04:24 PM (LCRYB)
The historians 500 years from now will thank you for realizing it.
Posted by: jwest at March 06, 2013 12:26 PM (u2a4R)
Posted by: NFJ at March 06, 2013 12:26 PM (KHo8t)
So what exactly is your point in dismissing what Paul and others are doing?
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 06, 2013 12:26 PM (4cRnj)
Posted by: The Q at March 06, 2013 04:26 PM (yVmMc)
Moran! I bet that's who I'm thinking of.
Moran. Gohmert. Come on, it's an easy mistake to make. Their names are so alike!
*le cough*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 06, 2013 12:26 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 04:26 PM (Dnbau)
LIV's ain't watching C-Span2.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 06, 2013 12:27 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Reality Check, Unheeded at March 06, 2013 12:27 PM (pmsMR)
Posted by: NFJ at March 06, 2013 04:26 PM (KHo8t)
But he has a BINDER. It's probably full of WOMEN! Because he's a sexist, evil RethugliKKKan!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 06, 2013 12:27 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: SH at March 06, 2013 12:27 PM (gmeXX)
Because, surprisingly enough, you'll finish the bottle of water. Then when you have to pee, you'll have surprisingly MORE than the bottle will hold. THEN it gets messy.
That's why God made clothespins.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 06, 2013 12:27 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, the future Pope Ampersand I at March 06, 2013 12:27 PM (GBXon)
Posted by: Marcus at March 06, 2013 12:27 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: The Q at March 06, 2013 12:27 PM (yVmMc)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 04:24 PM (piMMO)
Gohmert can't speak on the Senate floor because he's a House guy. John Cornyn was the last speaker before Rand got going.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at March 06, 2013 12:27 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 12:28 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, the future Pope Ampersand I at March 06, 2013 12:28 PM (GBXon)
I wasn't kidding about the Senators scheduled for dinner with the JEF.
If their aides and advisors aren't telling them that they need to publicly cancel dinner and show up on the floor of the Senate to support Rand, they should be fired tomorrow.
That would turn this from a "moment" into a full blown "thing".
Posted by: jwest at March 06, 2013 12:28 PM (u2a4R)
Love the fact that Rubio, even though he doesn't agree with Paul on the issue, is helping because of a greater love of procedure and sticking together
----
Well, I'm more cynical, I think its more for future aspirational purposes, but that is ok. Its how the system works.
Posted by: SH at March 06, 2013 12:29 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 04:28 PM (Dnbau)
I think this is why Rubio standing up and speaking is especially good. The MFM will have to cover it SOMEHOW, since Rubio's seen as a strong candidate for the 2016 run. They'll need to cover it to try and tear him down.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 06, 2013 12:29 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, the future Pope Ampersand I at March 06, 2013 04:28 PM (GBXon)
If she does, she's got my vote until the end of time.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 06, 2013 12:30 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 12:30 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 12:30 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: NFJ at March 06, 2013 12:30 PM (KHo8t)
And the Democrat TV whores can't be far behind. They can't afford to let Republicans actually steal the spotlight and speak truths.
Posted by: Marcus at March 06, 2013 12:31 PM (GGCsk)
I agree, but as the man said, wrong people doing the right thing. I can live with that.
Posted by: pep at March 06, 2013 12:32 PM (6TB1Z)
"Love the fact that Rubio, even though he doesn't agree with Paul on the issue, is helping because of a greater love of procedure and sticking together"
Not to be overly cynical, but any sitting GOP Senator interested in running for POTUS in 2016 will pop their head in at some point during this.
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 12:32 PM (HS3dy)
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 06, 2013 12:32 PM (4cRnj)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 06, 2013 12:32 PM (FsUAO)
This is most definitely A Thing.
I'd also like to offer up John McCain for further mockery over his previous claim that it's bad form to fillibuster a Presidential nominee. This, McLame, is why you're so very, very wrong. Sometimes it's not so much about the nominee as it is about the nominator.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 06, 2013 12:32 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Virginian at March 06, 2013 12:33 PM (aojzb)
I do think it's possible the Scoamf jumped his shark with the sequester. He's being mocked in places that dared not do so before.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 06, 2013 04:12 PM (TOk1P)
I don't think it has anything to do with the sequester. Now that the Media forces reaffirmed their faith in themselves by getting him elected twice, they no longer need to defend him. They are exonerated in their own minds, and don't have to guard their commentary so much.
He's elected. He's not going anywhere. They beat their enemies. Now they can relax.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 06, 2013 12:33 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 06, 2013 12:33 PM (FDQnE)
Posted by: © Sponge at March 06, 2013 12:33 PM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 06, 2013 12:33 PM (FsUAO)
Posted by: .87c at March 06, 2013 12:33 PM (dSF9/)
Posted by: Gren Gleenwald at March 06, 2013 12:33 PM (HI6wa)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 06, 2013 12:33 PM (C8mVl)
Posted by: SH at March 06, 2013 12:33 PM (gmeXX)
Of course. Every time he opens his mouth, weak, childish, cringe-inducing shit comes out. He'll be a great losing presidential candidate. Viva!
Posted by: oblig. at March 06, 2013 12:33 PM (cePv8)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at March 06, 2013 12:34 PM (R8X+X)
Posted by: Grin Glazwold at March 06, 2013 12:34 PM (HI6wa)
My dream is somebody come up to the podium acting like the crazy Irish dude from Braveheart and yell at Obama: The Lord says quit changing the subject and answer the fucking question!
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 06, 2013 12:35 PM (p/cQy)
Posted by: The Jackhole at March 06, 2013 12:35 PM (nTgAI)
>>>>I'd also like to offer up John McCain for further mockery over his previous claim that it's bad form to fillibuster a Presidential nominee
I think the filibuster could be a first step towards a coup for the leadership. At least I hope so. They need to do something to save the Party other than bring in a Twister game [Hey, everybody!]
Posted by: Bigby's Interposing Rand at March 06, 2013 12:35 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at March 06, 2013 04:34 PM (R8X+X)
Who shit!?!
Oh, Hi Mary.
*REMINDER* Please take your medication.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 06, 2013 12:36 PM (xmcEQ)
And Crispin Crispian shall neÂ’er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he neÂ’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accursÂ’d they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint CrispinÂ’s day.
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 12:36 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Gren Gleenwald at March 06, 2013 04:33 PM (HI6wa)
GOOD DAY, SIR!
Posted by: jwest at March 06, 2013 12:36 PM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 06, 2013 12:36 PM (UypUQ)
Not possible; the Senate would have to pass a resolution inviting him to speak.
There are quite a few Democrats who have issues with Brennan, and they're laying low for the most part. A lot of them will hold their noses and vote to confirm him in order not to embarrass Obama. Wyden is an example.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at March 06, 2013 12:37 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: Rick Ellison at March 06, 2013 12:37 PM (KHo8t)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 06, 2013 12:37 PM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Ohiogal at March 06, 2013 12:37 PM (SAYgH)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at March 06, 2013 12:37 PM (qFpRI)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 06, 2013 12:37 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: fireside chat at March 06, 2013 12:38 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 06, 2013 12:38 PM (B/VB5)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at March 06, 2013 12:38 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 12:38 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 04:11 PM (Y/HG5)
So you were one of those True Conservatives (TM) who, when confronted by a stealth socialist takeover of the United States, stayed home rather than vote for Mitt Romney. Romney had his faults as a candidate, to be sure, but hiding bedrock Marxist beliefs beneath a moderate facade wasn't one of them.
Posted by: troyriser at March 06, 2013 12:38 PM (vtiE6)
Or is that against the rules of this august body (ugh a little bile came up)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 06, 2013 12:39 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 06, 2013 12:39 PM (ATdet)
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 12:39 PM (Y/HG5)
Posted by: Bigby's Interposing Rand at March 06, 2013 12:39 PM (3ZtZW)
And as always, "Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you"
Posted by: pep at March 06, 2013 12:39 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Virginian at March 06, 2013 04:33 PM (aojzb)
And thus, when the smoke had cleared, and thier bombs and barbs had been for naught; for still standing was The Gingrich, his thirst for blood un--- oops. Sorry, wrong guy.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 06, 2013 12:39 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at March 06, 2013 12:39 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Bigby's Interposing Rand at March 06, 2013 12:40 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 06, 2013 12:40 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 06, 2013 12:40 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: VJay at March 06, 2013 12:40 PM (K4Gdd)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 06, 2013 12:40 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Eaton Cox at March 06, 2013 12:41 PM (q177U)
Saxby needs to say this right now:
"I was looking forward to dining with President tonight, but this is too important. I will stay here, with my fellow senators, fighting for the consitution and the american way. Please send the President my regrets."
Posted by: jwest at March 06, 2013 12:42 PM (u2a4R)
Or is that against the rules of this august body (ugh a little bile came up)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 06, 2013 04:39 PM (8sCoq)
He has to stay on the floor. The best he could do is stick one foot in the Republican Cloakroom and keep the other on the Senate floor if he wants to drink something other than water or grab a bite to eat. Potty break? Nope.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at March 06, 2013 12:42 PM (K+I6z)
Is this what it sounds like when adults speak?
no race card?
no Hitler comparisons?
no rape analogy?
no class warfare?
I do not understand it
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 12:42 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: troyriser at March 06, 2013 04:38 PM (vtiE6)
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So you made up a description about a person based solely on their desire for a third party...and it was complete bullshit. Neat.
Too bad I did vote, you fucking imbecile. And too bad it didn't do any good. Your candidate fucking sucked, and didn't deserve votes. I'll never vote Republican again, and if you continue to do so, you're part of the problem.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 12:42 PM (Y/HG5)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 12:42 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 04:37 PM (piMMO)
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Show off.
Posted by: M. Cleland at March 06, 2013 12:43 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: tony redenzo at March 06, 2013 12:43 PM (TtA6H)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 06, 2013 12:43 PM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 12:43 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 12:44 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 12:44 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 12:44 PM (/b8+5)
Fucking barrel. Now.
And yes there are weasels inside.
Hungry weasels.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 06, 2013 12:44 PM (fMgJk)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 04:43 PM (/b8+5)
Guarantees a media circus outside?
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at March 06, 2013 12:44 PM (K+I6z)
Setting them up for a drone strike?
Posted by: Retread at March 06, 2013 12:45 PM (zxitI)
who, when confronted by a stealth socialist takeover of the United
States, stayed home rather than vote for Mitt Romney. Romney had his
faults as a candidate, to be sure, but hidingbedrock Marxist beliefs
beneath a moderate facade wasn't one of them.
Posted by: troyriser at March 06, 2013 04:38 PM (vtiE6)
----------So you made up a description about a person based solely on their desire for a third party...and it was complete bullshit. Neat.Too bad I did vote, you fucking imbecile. And too bad it didn't do any good. Your candidate fucking sucked, and didn't deserve votes. I'll never vote Republican again, and if you continue to do so, you're part of the problem.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 04:42 PM (Y/HG5)
Your milieage may vary
Posted by: The Jackhole at March 06, 2013 12:45 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 12:45 PM (LCRYB)
Line....sand....assembled.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 06, 2013 12:45 PM (Tgggp)
I'd psych the dems out and walk up fitted with a catheter and a big fucking plastic bag down my pants...
...then start slugging multiple 64oz Big Gulps while talking.
Nap time for me, I'll see you morons later. I been up for 36hr straight now and the caffeine ain't working anymore...
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 06, 2013 12:45 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 06, 2013 12:45 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Mama AJ at March 06, 2013 12:45 PM (ndxIr)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 12:45 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 06, 2013 12:46 PM (p/cQy)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 06, 2013 12:46 PM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 12:46 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 06, 2013 04:46 PM (p/cQy)
Someone tell him to STFU
Posted by: The Jackhole at March 06, 2013 12:47 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 12:47 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at March 06, 2013 12:47 PM (kqqGm)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 06, 2013 12:47 PM (B/VB5)
The question as to whether or not American citizens can be attacked by drones in this country needs to be answered. Not much in politics is important, but THIS is important.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 06, 2013 12:47 PM (bb5+k)
I'd psych the dems out and walk up fitted with a catheter and a big fucking plastic bag down my pants...
...then start slugging multiple 64oz Big Gulps while talking.
Nap time for me, I'll see you morons later. I been up for 36hr straight now and the caffeine ain't working anymore...
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 06, 2013 04:45 PM (/gHaE)
Lol
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 06, 2013 12:47 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 06, 2013 12:47 PM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 06, 2013 12:48 PM (Tgggp)
Posted by: The Hard Truth at March 06, 2013 12:48 PM (yAor6)
Can Rand go take a piss while some guy runs the bases for him?
I'd psych the dems out and walk up fitted with a catheter and a big fucking plastic bag down my pants...
Fuck that. Astronaut diapers FTW.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 06, 2013 12:48 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at March 06, 2013 12:48 PM (kqqGm)
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 06, 2013 04:26 PM
Well, it's like this: John F'n Kerry, Hagel, Lew, amnesty....
In other words, Rubio's water bottle does not wash away past sins of himself and the other Brave Young Guns who are
But I see that's a minority view. Rubio is now Mr Wonderful, and a shoo-in for the nom. He's today's Official Chris Christie Media Darling.
Rubio-Paul '16, suckas !!eleventy11!!
Posted by: MrScribbler at March 06, 2013 12:48 PM (cFhY4)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 12:48 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 06, 2013 04:42 PM (bb5+k)
"my" Senator is Levin (D) and if he joined this thing I think I would go shoot myself you guys, no joke. (Or maybe just puke to death. It would be a sign that the whole thing is a joke. To what end I have no clue.)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 06, 2013 12:48 PM (FDQnE)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 12:48 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 12:48 PM (piMMO)
Harry Weed is a creepy little bastard
Posted by: The Jackhole at March 06, 2013 12:48 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 12:49 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 12:49 PM (LCRYB)
Nice update, Ace. I like the Old Ways myself, too, especially the part about taking politics seriously.
That's why I like this filibuster thingy. It inserts a bit of realism into the conversation.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 06, 2013 12:49 PM (+z4pE)
It's a service he's provided me on-and-off for months.
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Are you ever going to explain why you have such a bug up your ass about me? We've barely ever talked, to my recollection, yet you seem to be pissed about my mere presence. What the hell did I do to ever upset you, except I think once arguing with you on Twitter, where you acted this same, inexplicable way?
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 12:49 PM (Y/HG5)
This is boiling over like a china syndrome.
Posted by: tony redenzo at March 06, 2013 12:49 PM (TtA6H)
Posted by: The Q at March 06, 2013 12:49 PM (yVmMc)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 06, 2013 12:49 PM (g7q64)
Posted by: fireside chat at March 06, 2013 12:49 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 06, 2013 12:50 PM (eKiiX)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 06, 2013 12:50 PM (Tgggp)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 06, 2013 12:50 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 12:50 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 06, 2013 12:50 PM (ATdet)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 12:51 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 06, 2013 12:51 PM (FsUAO)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 06, 2013 04:50 PM (GEICT)
Seems so, but I don't think he can actually do that.
He also tried to steal the floor from Paul when Paul wouldn't actually yield (Paul specifically said he would not yield the floor, only take questions.)
Posted by: tsrblke (work) at March 06, 2013 12:51 PM (IsyJh)
Not even worth the energy I'd use to dial....
Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 06, 2013 12:51 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: The Jackhole at March 06, 2013 12:51 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: alex® at March 06, 2013 12:51 PM (m9cpE)
Posted by: Arbalest at March 06, 2013 12:51 PM (cq7Gp)
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 06, 2013 12:52 PM (ATdet)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 12:52 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at March 06, 2013 12:53 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 06, 2013 12:53 PM (g7q64)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 04:48 PM (/b8+5)
If the GOP had their shit together they would've already bought up theater time at cinemas in college towns across the country and bussed all the liberal and libertarian students to watch this live
Posted by: Unreasonable Cat at March 06, 2013 12:53 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 06, 2013 04:50 PM (GEICT)
He wanted to limit remaining debate and then go to a cloture vote on the nomination. After Rand objected, Reid threw in the towel and said that Brennan won't come to a vote tonight. Rand will talk as long as he wants now.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at March 06, 2013 12:53 PM (K+I6z)
I was gobsmacked to hear Gohmert say he hasn't received a single call regarding Obamacare in weeks. Said it seemingly has dropped off the public's radar.
And thanks to the seagull that shit in the middle of my windshield.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 06, 2013 12:53 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 06, 2013 04:51 PM (TOk1P)
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I'm coming off like a twit solely because I want there to be a viable third-party alternative to the GOP and DNC? Thanks for letting me know I'm on a blog where parties must not be challenged.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 12:53 PM (Y/HG5)
"Did Reid just try to close business for the day?"
It's telling how many regard this as irrelevant and aren't even there. This is the whole effing job of the senate, to debate issues like this. Oop, it's 5PM, time to call it a day. Let's not discuss assassinating Americans on US soil without due process, what a silly debate.
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 12:53 PM (HS3dy)
Posted by: Retread at March 06, 2013 12:53 PM (zxitI)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 06, 2013 12:53 PM (UU0OF)
Posted by: mama winger
***
Those are the standard leftist religious beliefs.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 06, 2013 12:54 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: beach at March 06, 2013 12:54 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 12:54 PM (piMMO)
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Yes, and for reference, I've only been posting comments on AOS for a few months. I know someone else was posting comments under my name beforehand, but it was not me. I'm wondering if that's why Ace always is such a dick to me.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 12:54 PM (Y/HG5)
Rubio-Paul '16, suckas !!eleventy11!!
Posted by: MrScribbler
What is the record for most straw men in one comment?
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 06, 2013 12:54 PM (4cRnj)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 12:54 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 12:54 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: alex® at March 06, 2013 12:54 PM (m9cpE)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at March 06, 2013 12:54 PM (K+mtQ)
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 12:55 PM (HS3dy)
Posted by: beach at March 06, 2013 12:55 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 12:55 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 06, 2013 12:55 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 12:55 PM (piMMO)
324 -
No, you're coming off like a twit, because there is a time and a place for everything, and you coming in here trying to throw cold water on a thread about Republicans actually doing something right makes you look like a troll.
Either join the fun, or go away.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 06, 2013 12:55 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 06, 2013 12:55 PM (B/VB5)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 06, 2013 12:55 PM (GEICT)
Re: Return to the old ways
I'm for it. Speaking of which, lightsabers: a more elegant weapon from a more civilized time. Time to bring them back.
Women can't have them though, they might get them taken away when they get raped.
Posted by: Ben "Oh-B-WAN" Kenobi at March 06, 2013 12:56 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 12:56 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 12:56 PM (/b8+5)
wasn't Toomey in the reserve at some point? I think he is trying to get to LOAC
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 12:56 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 06, 2013 12:56 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Retread at March 06, 2013 12:56 PM (zxitI)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at March 06, 2013 12:56 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: alex® at March 06, 2013 04:54 PM (m9cpE)
Yep. Gives Rand Paul a new starting point.
Posted by: antisocialist at March 06, 2013 12:57 PM (7Xm6u)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 06, 2013 12:57 PM (jE38p)
Posted by: beach at March 06, 2013 04:55 PM (XYSwB).
To tenderize the meat?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 06, 2013 12:57 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 06, 2013 12:57 PM (eKiiX)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at March 06, 2013 12:57 PM (qFpRI)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at March 06, 2013 12:58 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at March 06, 2013 12:58 PM (KL49F)
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Code Pink and I are in agreement? It truly must be the End Times.
Posted by: mama winger at March 06, 2013 12:58 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 04:54 PM (LCRYB)
Da fuq you calling square?
Posted by: Fresh Prince at March 06, 2013 12:58 PM (t06LC)
You know, just FYI.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff
***
He's this much fun on HA too.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 06, 2013 12:58 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 06, 2013 12:59 PM (VgkUy)
Line....sand....assembled.
At last, someone here who can play this game.
Posted by: Casey Stengel at March 06, 2013 12:59 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: IdioticPennsySchool at March 06, 2013 12:59 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 06, 2013 12:59 PM (ZOf1l)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at March 06, 2013 12:59 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at March 06, 2013 12:59 PM (kqqGm)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 01:00 PM (/b8+5)
Another Muzzie sympathizer.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 06, 2013 04:55 PM (UOM4
You're so close minded.
Posted by: Grover Norquist at March 06, 2013 01:00 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at March 06, 2013 01:00 PM (qFpRI)
Barky's trifecta: Hagel, Horse Face, and Brennan.
Go Rand!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 06, 2013 01:00 PM (UOM48)
Interesting that Holder has a passing aquaintance to the constitution.
Too bad he doesn't pay much attention to it unless forced.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 06, 2013 01:00 PM (qyv02)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at March 06, 2013 04:59 PM (kqqGm)
No.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at March 06, 2013 01:00 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord
***
In that case, if I couldn't move away I would PRAY for a Hellfire missile.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 06, 2013 01:00 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 06, 2013 01:00 PM (Tgggp)
I would let it go. It's just words. The crew has said a lot of stuff about me and other people as well. It's just words.
It's not what they call you, it's what you answer to.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 06, 2013 01:01 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 06, 2013 01:01 PM (ZWvOb)
Posted by: beach at March 06, 2013 01:01 PM (XYSwB)
Something else one of these senators should note is if the O admin will not straight out say they won't attack our citizens on our soil, is that he must believe that he can.
It should be specifically stated that he must believe that.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 06, 2013 01:01 PM (p/cQy)
Posted by: MJ at March 06, 2013 01:02 PM (vl5mg)
Posted by: beach at March 06, 2013 01:02 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at March 06, 2013 01:02 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: The Q at March 06, 2013 04:49 PM (yVmMc)
Call anyway. It reassures them when they think they have the support of their constituency.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 06, 2013 01:02 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 06, 2013 01:02 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: toby928© for TB
***
Thread winner (I am slightly biased however).
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 06, 2013 01:02 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 04:53 PM (Y/HG5)
You'd get your third party and start bitching about them shortly thereafter. Its what people like you do.
Posted by: polynikes at March 06, 2013 01:02 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at March 06, 2013 04:59 PM (kqqGm)
No.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at March 06, 2013 05:00 PM (K+I6z)
The key is gatorade bottles. You show up with 10 empties on the floor, people know you mean business. Nice wide opening on the top and resealable.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 06, 2013 01:02 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 06, 2013 01:02 PM (J6kXj)
This reminds me of when Democrats filibustered the Civil Rights Act.
Except in this case Senators are doing something good.
I'd like to see Rand blocking the Drone House door.
Maybe Rand should read from Brennan's Koran. The part about killing gays should be riveting.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 06, 2013 01:03 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 06, 2013 01:03 PM (BuSM8)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 06, 2013 04:49 PM (g7q64)
Call your Senators Offices, and call your Rep. Urge them to support the filibuster until the question is answered.
The American people WILL be on our side on this. Even the Liberals.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 06, 2013 01:03 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 06, 2013 01:03 PM (ZPrif)
btw, I have been listening and Rand Paul is not asking for an absolute bar on this especially for crimes or terrorism in action.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 06, 2013 01:03 PM (p/cQy)
I don't think he feels love for teh Joooooos.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 06, 2013 01:04 PM (UOM48)
Rand Paul: I came to see your face so that I alone may find you on the battlefield. And it will be good of you to mark my face, Democrat, for the next time you see it, it will be the last thing you see on this earth.
Harry Reid: Ahhh, finally, a man worth killing
Thwok. Harry's head rolls on the ground.
Posted by: pep at March 06, 2013 01:04 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 06, 2013 01:04 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: tasker at March 06, 2013 01:04 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: JustLurkin' at March 06, 2013 01:04 PM (EJQEA)
Posted by: tasker at March 06, 2013 01:04 PM (r2PLg)
Rand Paul can't lose with this.
All he has to do is stay with this. Every republican senator who doesn't want a primary needs to get on the floor with him. He's already told Obama the way to end this is to make or send over a clear statement saying he won't violate the consitution by killing Americans in the U.S.
There is no one on the left or the right who can defend Obama's position, so Rand has this in the bag.
The longer he goes, the raspier his voice gets, if he takes his jacket off and leans into the speech, the better off he is. You can't pay for shit this good.
If only those pussies who are going to dinner at the White House would cancel to be on the floor with Rand, this would be a moment people would point to for years.
Posted by: jwest at March 06, 2013 01:04 PM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 01:04 PM (HS3dy)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 06, 2013 05:03 PM (BuSM
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He's going to need a truckload of empty Gatorade bottles. I'll start rounding some up.
Posted by: mama winger at March 06, 2013 01:05 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 06, 2013 05:03 PM (BuSM
Thread winnah.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 06, 2013 01:05 PM (UOM48)
I completely disagree with Ace's allowance for drones on US soil wrt terrorists. It's the price worth paying in a free society. Freedom is "dangerous" and WORTH IT. If a drone thinks a guy on the street is packing nukes, call the proper authorities and apprehend him on the street.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at March 06, 2013 01:05 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 04:54 PM (LCRYB)
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If you don't like my personality, that's fair enough, because I don't like yours either. However, we share almost identical beliefs and values, so your answer is bullshit.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 01:05 PM (Y/HG5)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 06, 2013 01:05 PM (Tgggp)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 06, 2013 01:05 PM (GEICT)
Email/call your senator asking them to join Rand now. Talk up a great game about your senator's courage in filibustering. The more the merrier. Drag it out as long as it is possible.
This is PR. This is deathly for Obama's approval. I'll bet he's already taking a hit.
Posted by: Comrade J at March 06, 2013 01:05 PM (Cq/0w)
Posted by: beach at March 06, 2013 01:05 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at March 06, 2013 01:05 PM (ndlFj)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 06, 2013 05:05 PM (8sCoq)
Threadwinner
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 06, 2013 01:05 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: dantesed at March 06, 2013 01:05 PM (k16bb)
Posted by: Pipe Holder at March 06, 2013 01:05 PM (VTeUD)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, the future Pope Ampersand I at March 06, 2013 01:05 PM (GBXon)
Line....sand....assembled.
What do you mean you won't fire on the Senate?
Posted by: Emperor Palpobama at March 06, 2013 01:05 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 06, 2013 01:06 PM (g7q64)
Seriously?
Posted by: Infidel
***
Maybe someday he'll go pro.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 06, 2013 01:06 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 06, 2013 01:06 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 04:54 PM (Y/HG5)
Inform him of this, and he can check IP addresses to verify. Might straighten things out.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 06, 2013 01:06 PM (bb5+k)
You double posted at The Conversation--ha!
Posted by: tasker at March 06, 2013 05:04 PM (r2PLg)
LMAO!!!
Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 06, 2013 01:07 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 06, 2013 01:07 PM (yAor6)
Filibustering is prohibited by House rules.
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 06, 2013 01:07 PM (YjDyJ)
Yeah, yeah, gift horse, mouth, etc.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 06, 2013 01:07 PM (fMgJk)
Posted by: polynikes at March 06, 2013 05:02 PM (m2CN7)
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Really amazing how many people on this blog seem to know me that I've never talked to. Or do you just go along with the boss? I guess every blog eventually wanders down the LGF route with commenters.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 01:07 PM (Y/HG5)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 06, 2013 01:08 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 01:08 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at March 06, 2013 01:08 PM (e8kgV)
Thanks for the link to code pink.
My brain just exploded.
And my dogs and cats are living together.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 06, 2013 01:08 PM (Tgggp)
Posted by: Jmel at March 06, 2013 01:08 PM (9tSXa)
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Yeah. Madison was an idiot who dared to talk about a third party, and not gladly take abuse for doing so. What an asshole.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 01:08 PM (Y/HG5)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 06, 2013 01:08 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Unreasonable Cat at March 06, 2013 01:08 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: tasker at March 06, 2013 01:09 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 01:09 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 01:09 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 05:07 PM (Y/HG5)
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This place is nothing like LGF.
Posted by: mama winger at March 06, 2013 01:09 PM (P6QsQ)
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Sweetie, you're a Debbie Downer your whole life. You know this. That it only took some of us ONE THREAD here to figure it out isn't because we're so smart.
You're just that obvious.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 06, 2013 01:09 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 06, 2013 01:09 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, the future Pope Ampersand I at March 06, 2013 01:09 PM (GBXon)
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 06, 2013 01:09 PM (ZWvOb)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 01:09 PM (piMMO)
And here I thought I was the only one who noted how "handy" they are.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 06, 2013 01:10 PM (qyv02)
"Brennan is a lying shitbag.
Just not sure if he's our loyal shitbag or not.
He's a lying, betraying dickwad. Just not clear who he's betraying."
Let's not take a chance then.
Bring out the pee bottle and the bath towel.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 06, 2013 01:10 PM (1Y+hH)
Don't even go down the LGF path.
The mere fact that you are still posting here defines the difference between the two blog owners.
Now get your shine box.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 06, 2013 01:10 PM (Tgggp)
Posted by: Arbalest at March 06, 2013 01:11 PM (cq7Gp)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 01:11 PM (LCRYB)
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When? When have I come on here spoiling for a fight? Talking about a third party? Disagreeing with you? I've barely ever posted here.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 01:12 PM (Y/HG5)
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 06, 2013 01:12 PM (VgkUy)
Posted by: beach at March 06, 2013 01:12 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 06, 2013 01:12 PM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 06, 2013 01:12 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: beach at March 06, 2013 01:13 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 01:13 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: jwest at March 06, 2013 01:13 PM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Arbalest at March 06, 2013 05:11 PM (cq7Gp)
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And the GOP is doing good...how exactly?
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 01:13 PM (Y/HG5)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 06, 2013 01:13 PM (8sCoq)
Let's not be hasty. Free expensive food is my favorite.
Posted by: The rest of the GOP at March 06, 2013 01:13 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 06, 2013 01:13 PM (UU0OF)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 01:13 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 05:07 PM (Y/HG5)
I know you are advocating for a third party in the midst of a Conservative Republican frontal attack on our Socialist President. That tells me more than enough about what kind of 'Conservative' and in general person you are. You obtuse , narcissistic pinhead.
Posted by: polynikes at March 06, 2013 01:13 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: beach at March 06, 2013 01:14 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 06, 2013 01:14 PM (8sCoq)
Who are you attempting to convince exactly? Just let it goooooo.
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 06, 2013 01:14 PM (ZWvOb)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 01:14 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, the future Pope Ampersand I at March 06, 2013 01:14 PM (GBXon)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 06, 2013 01:14 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 06, 2013 01:14 PM (g7q64)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 01:15 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: fluffy at March 06, 2013 01:15 PM (HZwp0)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 06, 2013 01:15 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 06, 2013 01:15 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: glenno greenwaldo at March 06, 2013 01:15 PM (ORGYc)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at March 06, 2013 01:15 PM (9+ccr)
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It's just bewildering to come onto a site and be instantly attacked by people you've never talked to who assume all kinds of things about you. But, whatever. If Ace doesn't want certain people on here, he can always take the initiative. Instead, he seems more content piling on people whom he won't even give a fair shake at debating.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 01:15 PM (Y/HG5)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 06, 2013 01:15 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at March 06, 2013 01:16 PM (m2IdD)
Very good one. He should have done that while smirking and outright laughing at him. And then asked where he stashed the kid's bodies...
Posted by: dfbaskwill at March 06, 2013 01:16 PM (ndlFj)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 01:16 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Eaton Cox at March 06, 2013 01:16 PM (q177U)
Posted by: alex® at March 06, 2013 01:16 PM (m9cpE)
Posted by: Lauren at March 06, 2013 01:16 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 06, 2013 05:10 PM (qyv02)
High school football bus trips. Turns out after a disappointing loss, coaches don't stop too often, and Texas is big. Its a long way from where you lose to home.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 06, 2013 01:16 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 06, 2013 01:16 PM (UOM48)
I know it's wrong, and your comment is really stupid and juvenile, but I laughed. **hangs head in shame**
Posted by: pep at March 06, 2013 01:16 PM (6TB1Z)
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Not 13 year old girls. This is the internet. In real life, one of us 13 year old girls would have punched him in the mouth and shut him up by now, but we can't do that here.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 06, 2013 01:17 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo
Greater good?
Um, care to rephrase? Or are you just looking to get in on the MadCon lecturing gig?
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 06, 2013 01:17 PM (fMgJk)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 06, 2013 01:17 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 06, 2013 01:17 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 01:17 PM (LCRYB)
Accordingly, our Constitution saw monarchs, appropriately, as an anathema to our republic. They vested power in checks and balances purposely. It wasn't a mistake.
So unpopular as it may be, I don't like the idea of one man in our government having the power of life or death over another citizen. What checks that power? Not only that where does such power come from? It's certainly not under the presidents constitutional power. Nor do I buy the argument it's part of his duty to protect us.
Furthermore, I am a bit unclear why a "single man" is the only option. Surely there would be some consultation with Congress in advance in which, given the gravity, proof, reasoning and decisions would be explained.
I am not some bleeding heart liberal and glad Alwaki rest in pieces. But I am also a practical constitutionalist and feel presidents, and the governments sacred duty is to protect and defend this nation. But that also means our constitutional ideals and principles. I worry about the lack of checks and balances. When does that come in? Proving today's case does not mean that tomorrows wont involve democratic abuses.
Posted by: Marcus at March 06, 2013 01:18 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 06, 2013 01:18 PM (jE38p)
It has been some time I am sure, but since Sen Paul is also a doctor, at one time he probably did 24 hour shifts. The vocal cords will be quite different though.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 06, 2013 01:18 PM (p/cQy)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 05:17 PM (LCRYB)
I'm a star. A bright shining star.
Posted by: Dirk Diggler at March 06, 2013 01:19 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 06, 2013 05:07 PM (yAor6)
Ya dinna ken the Scottish mindset. As often as not, I PREFER to be in places where nobody wants me!
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 06, 2013 01:19 PM (bb5+k)
Um, care to rephrase? Or are you just looking to get in on the MadCon lecturing gig?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 06, 2013 05:17 PM (fMgJk)
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You can't be this obtuse.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 06, 2013 01:19 PM (HDgX3)
This place is nothing like LGF.
I got kicked off of LGF for mentioning that a spoof on Chas was funny. Can't imagine that happening here...
Posted by: Beeech at March 06, 2013 01:19 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: beach at March 06, 2013 01:19 PM (XYSwB)
Can you start your own blog, and start a thread about your awesomeness?
This thread is about events unfolding before our eyes, which are far beyond your ability to comprehend.
Now shut up
Grown folk be talking.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 06, 2013 01:19 PM (Tgggp)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 06, 2013 01:19 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: TheWizz at March 06, 2013 01:20 PM (eEfYn)
Agree with the overall concept. Disagree with the exact location for cranial placement.
Posted by: pep at March 06, 2013 01:20 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 06, 2013 01:20 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: MadCon THE TrueCon at March 06, 2013 01:20 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at March 06, 2013 01:20 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 01:20 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Eaton Cox at March 06, 2013 01:20 PM (q177U)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 06, 2013 01:21 PM (T0NGe)
An debate? Well lah-di-dah **extends pinkie**
Posted by: pep at March 06, 2013 01:21 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Dirk Diggler at March 06, 2013 05:19 PM (t06LC)
Nothing is funnier than a good Dirk Diggler reference.
Posted by: jwest at March 06, 2013 01:21 PM (u2a4R)
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You always say this, and it's still incomprehensible. Most of my comments have been related to the topic. Some of them have been questions or arguments regarding the point addressed to you, and you utterly refuse to engage them at all, instead reacting with personal insults. I guess it's impossible to be civil if Ace has made up their mind who you are without ever trying to talk to you.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 01:21 PM (Y/HG5)
Posted by: beach at March 06, 2013 01:22 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 06, 2013 01:22 PM (UypUQ)
Conservatives get upset.
Someone mentions it's time of a new party.
Conservatives scream that new party = socialist scum.
GOP acts even more like Dem-Lite.
Rinse repeat.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 06, 2013 01:22 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 06, 2013 01:22 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at March 06, 2013 01:22 PM (ndlFj)
@547
icwydt
But seriously, ace is pretty cool. We give him shit all the time. I also like it when he comes down to the comments to rub elbows with the little people. Its easier to cut him.
I appreciate that.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 06, 2013 01:22 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Arbalest at March 06, 2013 01:23 PM (cq7Gp)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 06, 2013 01:23 PM (BuSM8)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 05:20 PM (LCRYB)
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Gee thanks ace, you're the best!
*bows, scrapes*
Is there a way to confine MC to the Gamer Threads? Cuz that would be funny....
Posted by: Beeech at March 06, 2013 01:23 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 06, 2013 01:23 PM (eKiiX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 06, 2013 01:23 PM (jE38p)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 06, 2013 01:23 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: The Chicken at March 06, 2013 01:23 PM (q177U)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 06, 2013 01:23 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Helen Thomas, riding a bicycle with no underpants on at March 06, 2013 01:23 PM (m2IdD)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 01:23 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at March 06, 2013 01:24 PM (cQBh3)
Yup, Darryl Hannah. Darryl did not age well, though.
Posted by: pep at March 06, 2013 01:24 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 05:21 PM (Y/HG5)
Boo fucking hoo.... get a blog and run it any way you want
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 06, 2013 01:24 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at March 06, 2013 01:24 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 06, 2013 01:24 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 06, 2013 01:24 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 06, 2013 01:24 PM (uhftQ)
I'm for droning the hell out of anyone, American citizen or not, that goes overseas and joins up with our enemies. In my eyes they have given up their citizenship when they travel to another country with the intent of assisting our enemies to do our Country harm.
On the other hand, no way in hell is it Constitutional to launch a hellfire missile or assasinate in anyway a citizen who remains on American soil. Due process has not been waived either directly or indirectly.
Posted by: polynikes at March 06, 2013 01:24 PM (m2CN7)
Another reinforcement of Rands efforts
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 06, 2013 01:24 PM (Tgggp)
Well, content before 3:00PM EST from Ace would be nice.
That's not a complaint of course.
Posted by: Marcus at March 06, 2013 01:24 PM (GGCsk)
We used to like linking videos ....
Posted by: Waterhouse at March 06, 2013 01:25 PM (vBSha)
Yup, Darryl Hannah. Darryl did not age well, though.
Posted by: pep at March 06, 2013 05:24 PM (6TB1Z)
Meth'll do that.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 06, 2013 01:25 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 01:25 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 06, 2013 05:14 PM (HDgX3)
That's not it. It's the fact that they control everything which gets on television or the big screen, and every word that's printed in magazines.
All sources of information are produced by people who are Liberal with an automatic Liberal perspective as the default position of whatever is being produced.
The American people are deprived of hearing the other side.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 06, 2013 01:25 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 06, 2013 01:25 PM (GFM2b)
Is that still there? I was banned 3 years ago because I stuck up for something Ann Coulter said. Simple as that. Chuckles was livid. Turns out of course that she was right...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at March 06, 2013 01:25 PM (9+ccr)
I recommend that MadCon look up a guy named Vic. He usually posts in the mornings. He'll show you how to disagree without being disagreeable.
Posted by: pep at March 06, 2013 01:26 PM (6TB1Z)
"But seriously, ace is pretty cool. We give him shit all the time. I also like it when he comes down to the comments to rub elbows with the little people."
Let's try to keep the slobbering blow jobs to a minimum. Ace has a big enough head as it is.
Posted by: jwest at March 06, 2013 01:26 PM (u2a4R)
Posted by: pep at March 06, 2013 05:24 PM (6TB1Z)
to be fair, few of us will
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 06, 2013 01:26 PM (8sCoq)
I am also guessing that's why your Twitter posts are epic.
I am not a Twitter guy, but those are easier for me to digest during the day.
Posted by: Marcus at March 06, 2013 01:26 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 01:26 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Arbalest at March 06, 2013 05:23 PM (cq7Gp)
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It's debatable where Perot elected Clinton. But say he did. So what? In the long run Perot helped conservatives because he was a loud voice - the ONLY voice at the time - talking about the need to cut spending and worry about the deficit. Putting aside your political blinders, which 8 year period was better for fiscal discipline 1993-2000 or 2001-2008? Without Perot, there's no Clinton. But without Clinton, there's no Gingrich/1994 revolution. And without that there's probably no late 90s economic boom and balanced budgets.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 06, 2013 01:27 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 01:27 PM (LCRYB)
Dammit, I knew I should have got rid of this filibuster thingy when I had the chance.
Come here , little Jimmy, I want to filibuster YOU!
Posted by: Harry Reid at March 06, 2013 01:27 PM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at March 06, 2013 01:27 PM (9+ccr)
are we talking about the same Vic?
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 06, 2013 01:27 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 01:27 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: tony redenzo at March 06, 2013 01:27 PM (TtA6H)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 06, 2013 05:23 PM (jE38p)
Haven't visited in a long time. It was funny when the banning sword was singing, I'll say that.
Posted by: Beeech at March 06, 2013 01:27 PM (1Y+hH)
Just hours after Durbin made his comments, Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky took the floor to “actively filibuster” the nomination of John O. Brennan to be the next CIA director. Paul pledged to talk as long as possible to express opposition to the Obama administration’s policy regarding targeted killing of American citizens using drones.
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at March 06, 2013 01:27 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 01:27 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Jones in CO
***
I just hope I don't go insane like her.
Should I go insane, I hope I am least entertaining.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 06, 2013 01:28 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at March 06, 2013 05:25 PM (9+ccr)
And then there was Coulter's unabashed toungebathing of Chistie. Turns out she was wrong.
Tell you what MadCon, if Christie is the nominee, I'll go third party. No difference at that point at all.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 06, 2013 01:28 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 06, 2013 01:28 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: ace at March 06, 2013 01:28 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 01:29 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 06, 2013 01:29 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 06, 2013 05:28 PM (t06LC)
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WHAAAAAA? Don't you know that a socialist Republican is 10000000X better than a Socialist Democrat? Troll!! Commie!!
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 06, 2013 01:29 PM (HDgX3)
Nope.
Posted by: Fritz at March 06, 2013 01:29 PM (WM+rJ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 06, 2013 05:23 PM (GEICT)
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Try to follow along: I. Don't. Want. It. To. Be. About. Me.
I Don't Make it About Me.
Ace Does.
I wanted to see what Ace had to say about a couple of comments in response to posts of his. Both responses were along the lines of "Herp Derp MadisonConservative is the god of all blogging everyone bow to him". He's the one making a big deal about me being here. I don't want a big deal. I wanted to talk with him like the rest of you. He will not allow that. Apparently I have to pick a different name just to not be treated like shit.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 01:29 PM (Y/HG5)
Rand needs to take that jacket off and put a little strain in the voice.
"All I want is for President to promise not to kill any of the boys and girls who will be using this land as a way to get out of the city for a few weeks."
Posted by: jwest at March 06, 2013 01:30 PM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 06, 2013 01:30 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 01:30 PM (Dnbau)
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Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 05:15 PM (Y/HG5)
The problem is, you're taking this personally.
Those that are beating you down right now may not know you "personally," but they know your ONLINE persona that you put out there. They don't like it, so you're being rebutted to the point of anal bleeding.
In other words, stop being a little bitch and either defend yourself like a man or go the fuck home.
There are SOME things to be learned from Empire of Jeff.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 06, 2013 01:30 PM (xmcEQ)
Your application will be considered in due course. Don't call us.
Posted by: The comments admissions office at March 06, 2013 01:30 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at March 06, 2013 01:30 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 01:30 PM (HS3dy)
Or is it just 'drone strike'?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 06, 2013 01:30 PM (FDQnE)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 06, 2013 01:31 PM (UypUQ)
@594
I don't comment anywhere else but here. Comments anywhere are less useful than masturbation. At least that might develop grip strength and be good for one's prostate.
Commenting here is actually fun.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 06, 2013 01:31 PM (t06LC)
Come here, boy.
Posted by: Helen Thomas, Nancy Pelosi and Hillary at March 06, 2013 01:31 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 01:31 PM (piMMO)
C'mon Rand, I could last a lot longer and I'm older than you are. I'd just go til I dropped.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 06, 2013 01:31 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 06, 2013 01:31 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 06, 2013 01:31 PM (m2IdD)
Posted by: backhoe at March 06, 2013 01:32 PM (ULH4o)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez
Sorry, I don't know how to do the little emoticons. I suppose I could have put in \s.
Posted by: pep at March 06, 2013 01:32 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 01:32 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 06, 2013 05:29 PM (HDgX3)
Conceding that there are 'socialist ' Republicans to continue my point, you're damn right they are better than a Socialist Democrat if the only choice is between the two.
Posted by: polynikes at March 06, 2013 01:33 PM (m2CN7)
And Sean Penn's boyfriend is still dead.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 06, 2013 01:33 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 01:33 PM (HS3dy)
You always say this, and it's still incomprehensible. Most of my comments have been related to the topic. Some of them have been questions or arguments regarding the point addressed to you, and you utterly refuse to engage them at all, instead reacting with personal insults. I guess it's impossible to be civil if Ace has made up their mind who you are without ever trying to talk to you.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 05:21 PM (Y/HG5)
Look up Cascade and Herd theory. Just keep posting reasonable stuff, and eventually people will change their impressions.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 06, 2013 01:33 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 01:33 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 01:33 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 06, 2013 01:33 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Lord of War at March 06, 2013 01:33 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: beach at March 06, 2013 01:33 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 06, 2013 01:33 PM (J6kXj)
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1. The comments in question weren't.
2. So you don't have the balls to take people as they come, just as you believe them to be. Fair enough.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 01:33 PM (Y/HG5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s] at March 06, 2013 01:33 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 01:34 PM (piMMO)
Either way, he at least held up the senate for a day and got some press to the LIV that Obumbles thinks he has the power to unilaterally kill people.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 06, 2013 01:34 PM (p/cQy)
Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at March 06, 2013 01:34 PM (cQBh3)
Posted by: Helen Thomas, Nancy Pelosi and Hillary
Holy shit that's hot. Can you imagine the party you'd have with those three? By proxy you'd have banged every Soviet spy, B list journalist, mobster, closet homo, and crony capitalist since the Wilson administration.
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 06, 2013 01:34 PM (ZWvOb)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at March 06, 2013 01:34 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: polynikes at March 06, 2013 05:33 PM (m2CN7)
Lets be honest - how long until Christie has a "the party left me" moment?
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 06, 2013 01:34 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Irish Mike at March 06, 2013 01:34 PM (r4WRj)
Posted by: tony redenzo at March 06, 2013 01:34 PM (TtA6H)
Posted by: polynikes at March 06, 2013 05:33 PM (m2CN7)
________
Wow. Just wow.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 06, 2013 01:34 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 01:35 PM (Dnbau)
Don't know if I could do it to save my firstborn. Writing, maybe. Talking, dunno.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at March 06, 2013 01:35 PM (m2IdD)
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 05:33 PM (HS3dy)
Its done by the honor system.
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 06, 2013 01:35 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 06, 2013 01:35 PM (J6kXj)
Tough stuff.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 05:32 PM (piMMO)
I get tired talking to myself.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 06, 2013 01:35 PM (X6akg)
652 -
I don't know how to do strikethroughs here, but I think you need to change the word "keep" to "start."
Posted by: BurtTC at March 06, 2013 01:35 PM (TOk1P)
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No point. It doesn't seem worth it if it requires weathering heaps of abuse from people who don't have the balls to get past their preconceptions. There was enough of that shit at Hot Air, and I was hoping there'd be less here.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 01:35 PM (Y/HG5)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 06, 2013 01:36 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 01:37 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at March 06, 2013 01:37 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 06, 2013 01:37 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 06, 2013 01:37 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: © Sponge at March 06, 2013 01:37 PM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 06, 2013 01:37 PM (g7q64)
$1.6 trillion in deficit reduction to be on a sustainable path and
another $3 trillion to put the nationÂ’s debt-to-GDP ratio on a downward
trajectory.
First, they came for my Obamaphone...
Posted by: Low Information Voter at March 06, 2013 05:36 PM (vbh31)
____________________
Uhm, so let's just tax evil rich (white) people an extra $3T. Simple.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 06, 2013 01:37 PM (HDgX3)
Hey, where are the blogs?
Smith had the "Boy Rangers". Who does Rand have, if not the morons?
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 06, 2013 01:37 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 06, 2013 01:38 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at March 06, 2013 01:38 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 01:38 PM (HS3dy)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 01:38 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 06, 2013 01:38 PM (eKiiX)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 01:38 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 01:38 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 06, 2013 05:34 PM (t06LC)
I'm actually a big Christie critic and have come to really dislike him. That said, he is that 10,000 times better than anything the Democrats have to offer.
Posted by: polynikes at March 06, 2013 01:39 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Ashley Judd at March 06, 2013 01:39 PM (r2PLg)
If so, it calls to mind the scene following the filibuster in Mr Smith Goes To Washington, where you see boy scouts trying to get the truth out about Smith, with full-grown adults running them off the road. I swear there was an SEIU logo on the truck.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 01:39 PM (Y/HG5)
Posted by: © Sponge at March 06, 2013 01:39 PM (xmcEQ)
Yeah, I'm enjoying this, but I think we might want to hold of the glorious victory talk until something is actually accomplished here. Absent the (worthless) promise not to conduct drone strikes on Americans from the regime, Rand hasn't really done much but fill up time on DC's day off for snow.
Is there rhetorical value in pointing out Obama thinks he has the power to kill us here? YMMV, but I don't remember that debt ceiling vote the day of the state of the union mattering to much of anyone.
Posted by: Methos at March 06, 2013 01:39 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 01:39 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 01:39 PM (piMMO)
This is going to play VERY well. Well played Rand!
Leslie has, he's going to dinner with The One tonight.
Graham has to go.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 06, 2013 01:40 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 01:40 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at March 06, 2013 01:40 PM (9+ccr)
Let's ask Randy Weaver's wife about her views on the use of lethal force by the State on US Citizens on US Soil without due process.
Oh, I see.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 06, 2013 01:40 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 06, 2013 01:40 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s] at March 06, 2013 01:40 PM (bxiXv)
Who cares about positions, it's the drama queen routine that is tedious.
I'm having to read commenter names first to avoid the silliness.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 06, 2013 01:40 PM (1Y+hH)
Yes, yes there is.
Posted by: pep at March 06, 2013 01:40 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 06, 2013 01:40 PM (UOM48)
A US Senator has been talking all day long about how the President of the United States WILL NOT SAY whether or not he would kill an American IN AMERICA with a drone strike
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 06, 2013 01:40 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: - Kabuki Commenter - at March 06, 2013 01:40 PM (9P+hO)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 06, 2013 01:41 PM (qyv02)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 06, 2013 01:41 PM (ZPrif)
When he loses the 2016 nomination and his career dead ends in Jersey. If he's so popular let's see him run for the senate where he might do some good.
Posted by: Irish Mike at March 06, 2013 01:41 PM (r4WRj)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 01:41 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 06, 2013 01:42 PM (9P+hO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 01:42 PM (piMMO)
Yielding the floor (with the exception of yielding to answer a question) ends the filibuster, as does leaving the floor and sitting.
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 06, 2013 01:42 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Arbalest at March 06, 2013 01:42 PM (cq7Gp)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 06, 2013 01:42 PM (jucos)
Posted by: dantesed at March 06, 2013 01:43 PM (k16bb)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 01:43 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 06, 2013 01:43 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 01:44 PM (Dnbau)
A U.S. senator took to the floor and, with the support of other U.S. senators, repeatedly pleaded with the POTUS to state for the record that he will not kill U.S. citizens on U.S. soil.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
***
Filiburger? Fillibuttster? Ooo, Honey Boo Boo is on!
Posted by: Low Info Voter at March 06, 2013 01:44 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 06, 2013 01:44 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: © Sponge at March 06, 2013 01:44 PM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 05:42 PM (piMMO)
___ ____ ____
A true patriot. Bless you and carry on.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 06, 2013 01:44 PM (1Y+hH)
Oh, I see.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 06, 2013 05:40 PM (BAS5M)
Fuck that. They killed a law enforcement officer first and were barricaded and armed. The court system Randy Travis refused to appear because he didn't trust it which started this who thing, is the same one who found him innocent. Ironic isn't it.
Posted by: polynikes at March 06, 2013 01:45 PM (m2CN7)
Go Rand Go. Mr Smith shuts it down!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRiJ_rOqkC0
PS sorry, can not get my tiny's to work on new computer.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 06, 2013 01:45 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Sterling Archer at March 06, 2013 01:46 PM (9P+hO)
just keep doing this!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 06, 2013 05:35 PM (J6kXj)
It will only work on topics sufficiently simple for the public to understand, and of which they feel strongly about.
Not killing Americans with Drone Missiles is simple to understand, and most of the public is against it.
Try it with another not so simple issue, and it will likely fizzle.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 06, 2013 01:46 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Beeech at March 06, 2013 05:19 PM (1Y+hH)
I got booted off LGF as well. I spoke up for Pam Geller without knowing speaking up for Enemies Of Charles was an instant banning offense. I've been permabanned from other sites, too. But hey, their sites, their rules. No hard feelings.
And MadCon? Get a grip. This is the Internets. Little of it matters. Step away from the keyboard and go have a real conversation with someone IRL. Pet a kitten. Shovel snow. Remember that your name isn't really 'MadisonConservative'.
Posted by: troyriser at March 06, 2013 01:46 PM (vtiE6)
Never heard a word of it.
Posted by: Charles Gibson at March 06, 2013 01:46 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 01:46 PM (/b8+5)
I'm starting to think Obama has someone specific in mind when it comes to this drone thingie....
Posted by: Meremortal at March 06, 2013 01:46 PM (1Y+hH)
hoping there'd be less here.
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 05:35 PM (Y/HG5)
no blog is under any obligation to accommodate anyone
if you want someone to powder your bottom and tell you how it's special and different from everybody else's, start your own blog
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 06, 2013 01:46 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 06, 2013 05:42 PM (YjDyJ)
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Get Rubio in there and ask him about his thoughts on oh I dunno, the 2012 NFL playoffs? Then take an hour nap. Then wake up, thank Rubio for is answer and continue.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 06, 2013 01:48 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 05:35 PM (Y/HG5)
It's a tough kitchen. Whatever doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 06, 2013 01:49 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Croaker at March 06, 2013 01:50 PM (W72X7)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 06, 2013 05:24 PM (UypUQ)
There is a candy desk. The Senator who uses it must keep the drawer stocked with candy. Current occupant is Mark Kirk.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at March 06, 2013 01:50 PM (K+I6z)
"Fuck that. They killed a law enforcement officer first and were barricaded and armed. The court system Randy Travis refused toappear because he didn't trust it which started this who thing, is the same one who found him innocent. Ironic isn't it. "
Actually, they don't know who shot first. What is known is that the "authorities" didn't identify themselves and didn't have a warrant and were unquestionably the aggressors. Randy Weaver and his dead family were all found 100% guiltless and he was paid millions in damages. But his family was still dead.
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 01:51 PM (HS3dy)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 01:51 PM (/b8+5)
Caught some of Rand on the live feed. He was just raping it up there.
Posted by: Bosk at March 06, 2013 01:51 PM (n2K+4)
Obama is Boooshhh plus eleventy
I suppose that is good politics, but he he not being fair to Bush right now. We knew Hussein had been developing WMD in teh past and was currently refusing to cooperate with inspectors who were trying to ensure that he didn't continue to do so. It wasn't just that he couldn't prove he wasn't developing them, it was that he was acting in such a way that indicated he was manufacturing WMD, but we didn't have positive proof. We weren't asking Hussein to prove a negative.
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 06, 2013 01:53 PM (VgkUy)
Does that in any way prevent him from doing so? No. Now if this results in legislation forbidding the use against domestic targets with real teeth against anyone involved in the decision, then we have something.
Is anyone other than us (being those who already mistrust the golden calf) paying any attention? That will have to wait a few days. Let's see some poll data.
I'm just trying to suggest people not get their hopes too far raised today.
Posted by: Methos at March 06, 2013 01:53 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 06, 2013 01:54 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 06, 2013 01:54 PM (g7q64)
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 05:51 PM (HS3dy)
Yes they had an outstanding warrant. For intent to sell illegal sawed offed shotguns to a White Supremacy group. The law endorcement officer was killed days before the standoff. There were only a couple of law enforcement observing the area at the time.
Posted by: polynikes at March 06, 2013 01:55 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Irish Mike at March 06, 2013 01:57 PM (r4WRj)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 01:57 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 01:59 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 06, 2013 01:59 PM (J6kXj)
Fuck that. They killed a law enforcement officer first and were barricaded and armed. The court system Randy Travis refused toappear because he didn't trust it which started this who thing, is the same one who found him innocent. Ironic isn't it.
Posted by: polynikes at March 06, 2013 05:45 PM (m2CN7)
It's my recollection that the whole thing started because the feds wanted someone to infiltrate some sort of white supremist group, and they picked Randy Travis to do it. Their undercover agent intentionally entrapped him by getting him to saw the barrel off of a shotgun so as to give the agent probable cause to arrest him and bring pressure on him to help them infiltrate this group.
This is just what I recall of the events leading up to the incident. I guess my point is, if the above is true, then THEY started it.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 06, 2013 01:59 PM (bb5+k)
Rand should have hired David Copperfield to create the illusion of a drone strike taking Rand out at the podium.
Thaaat would be teh awesome.
Then Rand appears out of the smoke, unharmed, wearing a colonial costume and holding a flintlock.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 06, 2013 01:59 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 06, 2013 01:59 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 02:01 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at March 06, 2013 02:02 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 05:51 PM (HS3dy)
That's right, it was Weaver, not Travis. And the rest of what you say also sounds familiar.
The agents stalking up to his home killed one of the family dogs, at which point his son shot him with a rifle, at which point one of the other agents (I think) killed Weaver's son.
It was an ugly clusterfuck, and about par for the course for anything involving the ATF. They have got to be the most incompetent law enforcement branch in US History.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 06, 2013 02:03 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 06, 2013 02:03 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 06, 2013 02:03 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 06, 2013 05:24 PM (UypUQ)
There is a candy desk. The Senator who uses it must keep the drawer stocked with candy. Current occupant is Mark Kirk.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at March 06, 2013 05:50 PM (K+I6z)
Hmm, interesting. Thanks.
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 06, 2013 02:04 PM (UypUQ)
"Yes they had an outstanding warrant.For intent to sell illegal sawed offed shotguns to a White Supremacy group. The law endorcement officer was killed days before the standoff. There were only a couple of law enforcement observing the area at the time. "
There was no warrant to trespass on Weaver's land. They had no warrant for the action that took place. There was in fact a bench warrant for Weaver for failing to appear in court over a year earlier. And it was later ruled that the authorities were guilty of trying to entrap Weaver and that he hadn't committed any crime.
During the incident in question, they had no warrant to breach the property or search for Weaver. They did not knock on the door and make the presence known and present a warrant. They were treating private property as public land sneaking around in the woods with guns and unmarked uniforms and ski masks. They scared his kids who then attempted to defend themelves and in the course of this a firefight commenced and Mr. Weavers children killed. He wasn't even there. He was on the property but far away from this initial incident. The noise from the firefight caught his attention and then it turned into an even bigger firefight.
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 02:05 PM (HS3dy)
Yes they had an outstanding warrant.For intent to sell illegal sawed offed shotguns to a White Supremacy group. The law endorcement officer was killed days before the standoff. There were only a couple of law enforcement observing the area at the time.
He, Randy Weaver, had an outstanding warrant for sawing off a shotgun 1/4" below the legal minimum length, at the request of an undercover FBI agent. When he did not appear at his hearing, they started ramping things up, as you correctly point out as a couple of LE observing....though not the area, they were monitoring the Weaver cabin.
Weaver's 16 year old son took one of the family dogs out to do some hunting. The dog alerted on one of these observers, who then shot the dog. Boy fired off a round, turned, and fled. He was shot in the back, and killed.
Vicki Weaver was standing in the door of their cabin, with her baby in her arms when FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi put a bullet through her throat....killing her, not instantly, but dead all the same. The FBI then taunted Weaver throughout the night, asking why the baby was crying, and what happened to it's mother.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 06, 2013 02:06 PM (eyJh9)
Posted by: polynikes at March 06, 2013 05:55 PM (m2CN7)
It is my recollection that the undercover Law Enforcement officer is the one who urged him to saw the barrel off. Initially Randy Weaver sawed it off, but it wasn't below the legal limit. The officer then induced him to saw it off even further, so as to make sure he could have cause to arrest him.
It was an entrapment sting is what I recall.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 06, 2013 02:06 PM (bb5+k)
"It was an ugly clusterfuck, and about par for the course for anything involving the ATF. They have got to be the most incompetent law enforcement branch in US History. "
Part of the problem is without a doubt they have tried to suppress information. Exactly what transpired is he said, she said, and a lot of those people are dead and can't talk. From day one the government started a media campaign to make Weaver sound like some kind of gun nut, a terrorist. And still do this day that's what most people think.
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 02:08 PM (HS3dy)
Remember the Alamo!
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at March 06, 2013 02:08 PM (baL2B)
We had someone like that in Russ Feingold, who I rarely agreed with but who was consistent in his views and pretty civil libertarian. We got rid of him for Ron Johnson but ended up with Tammy Baldwin in 2012.
In retrospect, if possible, I'd have held off Johnson til 2012 because Feingold >>> Baldwin.
But of course, no guarantees of a win in 2012 . . .
Posted by: The Q at March 06, 2013 02:09 PM (YpecZ)
"Yes they had an outstanding warrant.For intent to
sell illegal sawed offed shotguns to a White Supremacy group."
If these guys would learn to use a code word, like "black" for "white" they wouldn't have these problems.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 06, 2013 02:09 PM (1Y+hH)
"The FBI then taunted Weaver throughout the night, asking why the baby was crying, and what happened to it's mother. "
Jeez
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 02:12 PM (HS3dy)
Posted by: Low Information Voter at March 06, 2013 02:12 PM (gT3jF)
"Weaver's 16 year old son took one of the family dogs out to do some hunting"
Actually, I thought they had intentionally thrown rocks to try and rile the dogs up to see how they would respond. When the dogs started barking the boy then took the dogs out to see what they were barking about, and then saw the guys sneaking around in the woods, fled, got shot in back.
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 02:14 PM (HS3dy)
Posted by: thunderb at March 06, 2013 02:14 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 06, 2013 02:15 PM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 02:15 PM (piMMO)
Is this really true? That's disgusting, the names and pictures of every agent involved in that taunting should have been on the front page of every newspaper in the country. They should have been fired and driven out of society into the wilderness. My problem with the government isn't just the power it can wield but the type of sick personality that can sometimes be attracted to working for them.
Posted by: Irish Mike at March 06, 2013 02:15 PM (r4WRj)
Just read the Wiki version of Ruby Ridge to refresh memory. Vicky Weaver was killed while standing behind the door as Randy, daughter Sarah, and Harris were running towards / through it for cover. The shot blew half her face off. While holding a 10-month old baby.
The ROEs were changed by "someone" [Not Me!] and later found to be unconstitutional.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 06, 2013 02:18 PM (BAS5M)
*Reagan and Murphy together in This Is the Army: http://youtu.be/TnQDW-NMaRs (starting @ 4:09)
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 06, 2013 02:21 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 02:22 PM (/b8+5)
"My problem with the government isn't just the power it can wield but the type of sick personality that can sometimes be attracted to working for them. "
I would argue this is simply humanity. Federal government, local government, military, militia, there are turds everywhere. I knew a lot of great guys in the military, a lot of guys there for the right reason. But there were also some there simply because they truly enjoyed killing people. I know that sounds harsh, but it's for real. But since killing was our business I was happy to have them. They were great at it. But I wouldn't leave them alone with my kids, lol
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 02:22 PM (HS3dy)
Posted by: Irish Mike at March 06, 2013 02:24 PM (r4WRj)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 02:25 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 06, 2013 02:25 PM (FsUAO)
I'm suddenly reminded of the Family Guy sequence where Stewie is hounding Brian for his money.
"Where's the budget, Mr. President? Where's the budget? You had enough to pay for a dozen weekends of golf? Must've been fun! WHERE'S The BUDGET?!?"
The beating part would be hilarious and alas, non-PC.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 06, 2013 02:25 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 02:26 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 02:26 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: MadisonConservative at March 06, 2013 05:15 PM (Y/HG5)
Pity you don't have the Platinum level AOSHQ membership. Then you'd know that whenever one of your posts scrolls by, a flashing audio-visual Douche Alert is activated. It sounds sort of like the dive Klaxon on a submarine.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 06, 2013 02:26 PM (673KB)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 02:29 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 02:29 PM (piMMO)
"Yep, but I'm here for the long haul.
If he can give it his all, I can damn sure sit and listen to his effort."
Oh I'm with you, I've already committed, I'm staying up as long as he does. A lot of work I can do on the computer anyway while it's going on.
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 02:29 PM (HS3dy)
Of course, agree completely and let me say most of the people in law enforcement are decent people with a desire to serve and protect. The problem is that the type of personality attracted to being a prison guard is going to exhibit more problems in this area of abuse of power than the type of person attracted to being a florist. The harder it is to purge people from the federal government the easier it is for the bad apples to hide within their union employment rules barrel.
Posted by: Irish Mike at March 06, 2013 02:29 PM (r4WRj)
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 06, 2013 02:31 PM (YjDyJ)
So fake British comedy names are apparently more important than an historic filibuster, or something.
I am staying here and I hope others will as well. Otherwise, I will think morons are unable to discern which subjects are important, and which are fluff.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 06, 2013 02:31 PM (GoIUi)
I'm with you NDH.. this is riveting to me. I just talked to my mom about it. I said mom turn on Cspan2!! She doesn't get it though, had to downgrade her cable to basic because the cost of living just keeps going up and up and up...
Posted by: jewells45 at March 06, 2013 02:32 PM (u25eL)
This should've been bumped up.....
Posted by: Barky Obumbles...Idi Amin wannabe at March 06, 2013 02:33 PM (61BD9)
Posted by: jewells45 at March 06, 2013 02:33 PM (u25eL)
Paul~!
Lee
Cruz
Moran
Wyden
Rubio
Toomey
Cornyn
Have I missed anyone (besides the Searchlight Strangler), NDR?
Posted by: The Q at March 06, 2013 02:34 PM (YpecZ)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 06, 2013 02:35 PM (FsUAO)
"Of course, agree completely and let me say most of the people in law enforcement are decent people with a desire to serve and protect. The problem is that the type of personality attracted to being a prison guard is going to exhibit more problems in this area of abuse of power than the type of person attracted to being a florist. "
Another reason why it's so important to not have centralized power... because people aren't perfect. The less power people have, the lesser the mistakes they are able to make.
Posted by: Andrew at March 06, 2013 02:35 PM (HS3dy)
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 06, 2013 02:35 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 06, 2013 02:35 PM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Katfish at March 06, 2013 02:38 PM (Nx5wc)
I'd assume that he would've been for capturing and interrogating those targets, though IDK if the courts and/or O have completely shut off that opportunity and he might not have that option to propose anymore.
Posted by: The Q at March 06, 2013 02:38 PM (YpecZ)
Posted by: jewells45 at March 06, 2013 02:40 PM (u25eL)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 02:40 PM (/b8+5)
So fake British comedy names are apparently more important than an historic filibuster, or something.
I am staying here and I hope others will as well. Otherwise, I will think morons are unable to discern which subjects are important, and which are fluff.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 06, 2013 06:31 PM (GoIUi)
I too was dismayed by that. In a choice between trivial bullshit and something of consequence, my attention is riveted on the consequential. Faux Pas Ace.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 06, 2013 02:41 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 02:42 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 06, 2013 02:43 PM (PrDJQ)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 06, 2013 02:44 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 02:44 PM (/b8+5)
He's tired, and I'm hoping as we get to prime time, that more Senators show up.
Uhh OOO
What is he doing now?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 06, 2013 02:45 PM (Tgggp)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 06, 2013 02:46 PM (g7q64)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 02:46 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 02:47 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 02:48 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: jewells45 at March 06, 2013 02:48 PM (u25eL)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 06, 2013 02:48 PM (FsUAO)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 06, 2013 02:49 PM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 02:49 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 06, 2013 02:49 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 06, 2013 02:49 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: MFM at March 06, 2013 02:50 PM (PrDJQ)
Posted by: jewells45 at March 06, 2013 02:50 PM (u25eL)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 06, 2013 02:51 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 06, 2013 02:52 PM (PrDJQ)
But, he is getting very tired.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 06, 2013 02:52 PM (Tgggp)
Posted by: jewells45 at March 06, 2013 02:52 PM (u25eL)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 06, 2013 02:52 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: jewells45 at March 06, 2013 02:53 PM (u25eL)
Posted by: The Q at March 06, 2013 02:53 PM (YpecZ)
Posted by: jewells45 at March 06, 2013 02:54 PM (u25eL)
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 06, 2013 02:55 PM (PrDJQ)
No, busy chasing little boys around the school yard before it gets dark.
Loser gets a ride in Harry's trunk.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 06, 2013 02:56 PM (Tgggp)
Posted by: Katfish at March 06, 2013 02:56 PM (Nx5wc)
Not much, but a brief break from him having to speak.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 06, 2013 02:58 PM (Tgggp)
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Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 06, 2013 03:01 PM (FsUAO)
In late September 1981, Sen. William Proxmire of Wisconsin spoke for 16 hours and 12 minutes in an attempt to halt an increase in the debt ceiling to more than $1 trillion. He held the floor overnight, finally giving in at 10:26 a.m. Sept. 29. Proxmire, who had long expressed concern about the nationÂ’s rising debt, hoped his action would bring public attention to the issue. (RCP).
32 years and SIXTEEN TRILLION in debt later, it's still not enough for the Libs
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Posted by: Zanzibar at March 06, 2013 03:10 PM (PtWOt)
We should not be World Police but we must not turn a blind eye to threats, either. It is fantasy to believe that our enemies will leave us alone if we just leave them alone.
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 06, 2013 03:14 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Ken in NH at March 06, 2013 03:15 PM (N9thc)
Is this really true? That's disgusting, the names and pictures of every agent involved in that taunting should have been on the front page of every newspaper in the country. They should have been fired and driven out of society into the wilderness. My problem with the government isn't just the power it can wield but the type of sick personality that can sometimes be attracted to working for them.
Yes, it's all true. Horiuchi, the man that killed the unarmed Vicky Weaver, was later given an award for that action. He's now retired, and living under an assumed name.
The FBI also had a wheeled robot thing, that they trundled up in front of the cabin. It had a phone on it, ostensibly to communicate with Weaver. It had a shotgun mounted above the phone, which Randy wisely refused to use. They taunted him with that too, telling him to answer the phone....Vicky wanted to talk to him, (this was after she was killed).
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 06, 2013 04:29 PM (eyJh9)
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Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 06, 2013 12:06 PM (+z4pE)