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January 04, 2013

Democrats Introduce 8 Anti-Gun Laws on First Day of Work
— Ace

Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) led the way with four bills introduced.
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But McCarthy wasnÂ’t alone. Rep. Bobby Rush (D-IL), apparently ignoring the fact that his heavily gun-controlled home city of Chicago is the nationÂ’s leader in murder with guns, introduced legislation that would create more stringent licensing for gunowners. So did Rep. Rush Holt (D-NJ).
And Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) proposed a bill that would prevent anyone under age 21 from carrying a handgun Â– even though people of 18 can vote and serve in the military.
But wait Â– thereÂ’s more! Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA) pushed forward a bill requiring background checks on all gun sales, which would essentially prevent non-gun-shop transfers of weapons.

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1 Seventeenth.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at January 04, 2013 01:36 PM (PMGbu)

2 Ace, since Moran's son kicked his girlfriend's ass would he pass the background check?

Posted by: madamex at January 04, 2013 01:36 PM (Ztp7S)

3 Shouldn't they be focusing on violence in movies?

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 04, 2013 01:37 PM (Rq+Vo)

And...how would any of this new legislation have prevented even one of the shooting massacres that have happened?

Posted by: wheatie at January 04, 2013 01:38 PM (dC04t)

5 New gun control measures have the same chances of passing the House as spending cuts: No chance.

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 01:38 PM (Hz1zc)

6 The American Revolution started when the Brits went to Concord to try and seize the Americans' arsenal there. And, of course, a basic issue was taxation. The Americans didn't like it.

So now the two big issues of the last week have been guns and taxes.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 04, 2013 01:38 PM (XUKZU)

Moran's bill probably specifically disallows women owning guns. That would give them an unfair advantage, when, you know, you want to plow their heads into a garbage can or something.

Posted by: Liberty Lover at January 04, 2013 01:40 PM (encrR)

8 and you can bet your ass Republicans' phones are ringing off the hook from concerned 'longtime Republicans' calling to urge them to 'work with' Democrats

Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2013 01:40 PM (GcwH1)

9 My bill would require an applicant gun owner to draw a full house or higher in a seven-card hand dealt from a freshly-shuffled pack of cards, for at least three consecutive hands.

Justice Roberts would like it because it's kind of like a tax.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 04, 2013 01:40 PM (QKKT0)

10 Welcome to The United Socialist States of America.

Brought to you by:

Every fucking shitbag liberal to ever grace the earth with their fucked up shitbag presence........

Stop the world, I want to get off.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 04, 2013 01:40 PM (UK9cE)

11 I have a large collection of baseball bats.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at January 04, 2013 01:41 PM (qwK3S)

12 I like what Frank Fleming tweeted a few days back, paraphrasing here:

If they take my gun, I'll shoot them with my other gun.

Posted by: BuckIV at January 04, 2013 01:41 PM (gedHR)

13 Maybe some go-getter could attach a Federal Budget as an amendment.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at January 04, 2013 01:41 PM (qwK3S)

14 New gun control measures have the same chances of passing the House as spending cuts: No chance.
Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 05:38 PM (Hz1zc)

In before the other guy that always says this:

IS the TEXAS LEGISLATURE still in session?

Posted by: © Sponge at January 04, 2013 01:42 PM (UK9cE)

15 in b4 all the seccession talk!

Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2013 01:42 PM (QVBzT)

16 This'll go over like a lead balloon.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 04, 2013 01:42 PM (oKVrA)

17 I just bought another revolver yesterday.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 04, 2013 01:42 PM (DuH+r)

18 A gun made me squeal like a pig. And by gun I meant a bisexual inbred hillbilly

Posted by: Ned Beatty at January 04, 2013 01:43 PM (zUW8g)

19 Surprising to no one.

Posted by: steevy at January 04, 2013 01:43 PM (dBYCN)

20 Budget? We don' need no steenkeen' budget.

Posted by: Gold Hat Pelosi at January 04, 2013 01:43 PM (QKKT0)

People who believe in this type of gun control always tell us that our government is benelovent and would never hurt us, so we don't need the guns.

Many of these same people believe the government conceived, planned, or executed 9/11/2001. Go figure.

Posted by: Morseus at January 04, 2013 01:43 PM (8Syx4)

22 I just bought another revolver yesterday.

Anything interesting?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 04, 2013 01:44 PM (QKKT0)

23 No online purchases of ammunition, and licensing of ammunition dealers, as well as reporting to the federal government all bulk ammunition purchases;Prohibition on the transfer, sale, or possession of ammunition clips beyond a certain size. (That's my predictions where we'll end up-)

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 01:44 PM (XDC0v)

24 As a group Texans told Santa Ana, Come and take it. Would love to see some of these idiots at my door instead of making some local cop do their dirty work. Give them my ammo, one round at a time.

Posted by: bigred. at January 04, 2013 01:44 PM (mIcI8)

25 If any of these law pass, I think my idea of rocket-propelled knives might just take off.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 04, 2013 01:44 PM (Rq+Vo)

26 A revolver is now a semi auto.

Posted by: Diane at January 04, 2013 01:45 PM (qBLA2)

27 in b4 "STFU, dunce" @ Jordan the dunce

Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2013 01:45 PM (1WM2H)

28 Would banning private sales of firearms be unprecedented? Is there already some type of material property that the owner is required to sell to an approved and licensed dealer, rather than just another person?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 04, 2013 01:45 PM (evdj2)

29 Crap. I just got gulaged on twitter. I think it was because I pointed out - vigorously - that democratic elections won't prevent Islamists from genociding the Copts ... but who knows?

Posted by: Chicagorefugee at January 04, 2013 01:45 PM (MbXOQ)

30 And Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) proposed a bill that would prevent anyone under age 21 from carrying a handgun

You gotta be 21 to buy a handgun right now. Its been that way for decades.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 04, 2013 01:45 PM (hc3eM)

31 @21 - a Smith and Wesson Governor. Reviews are up and down all over the web. I like it cos it looks big and mean.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 04, 2013 01:45 PM (DuH+r)

32 So far this year I've picked up a Kimber .45 and Remington 870 tactical. Got my eye on a Remington 700P and another revolver. I just wish they didn't all get lost in that boating accident that will occur later.

Posted by: BuckIV at January 04, 2013 01:45 PM (gedHR)

33 Since no one ever reads the bills until they've passed, the conservatives ought to slip in a bill -- worded like a nice little liberal, such as Reverse Harmful Gun Laws: Save A Life, which actually reverses, blocks, or denies all of the Democrats bills in one sweep.

Posted by: fire back at January 04, 2013 01:45 PM (LpQbZ)

34 Those that would choose safety over liberty, deserves liberty nor safety.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2013 01:45 PM (3wlvV)

35 Unpossible,as any number of bloggers assured us that this wouldn't happen...

Posted by: Jess1 at January 04, 2013 01:45 PM (Vm+XF)

36 Oops meant @22.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 04, 2013 01:45 PM (DuH+r)

37 But we're the crazy ones.

Posted by: Truman North, idol of dozens at January 04, 2013 01:45 PM (I2LwF)

Guns are about 1% of the deadly threat to American lives that abortion mills are.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 04, 2013 01:46 PM (XCxgL)

39 If all of these bills don't pass, I will leave the country.

I mean it this time, guys!!!

Posted by: Piers Morgan and I'm serial, totes at January 04, 2013 01:46 PM (gCa4h)

40 Lets see. We need to ban the following:

Guns (any and all)
Knives (from Chef on down, including anything with a blade that cuts)
Box Cutters
Blunt Objects
Cars
Texting
Salt
Beef
17 oz. Cups and Larger
Deep Fryers
Gasoline
.......

Liberals. I hope you all die in a fiery hell because you are RUINING life for the rest of us.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 04, 2013 01:46 PM (UK9cE)

41 13 Maybe some go-getter could attach a Federal Budget as an amendment.
We have a winner.

Posted by: fluffy at January 04, 2013 01:46 PM (VLfx+)

42 "Guns are about 1% of the deadly threat to American lives that abortion mills are." A typical liar. Look it up.

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 01:47 PM (Hz1zc)

43 32 So far this year I've picked up a Kimber .45 and Remington 870 tactical. Posted by: BuckIV at January 04, 2013 05:45 PM (gedHR) How do you like the Remington 870? I'm really close to pulling the trigger on one.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 04, 2013 01:47 PM (IvVLN)

Do you think that a republican proposed a law that women shouldn't be allowed to have guns since they suffer from PMS, it would force the Left to argue FOR guns?

Posted by: Invictus at January 04, 2013 01:48 PM (OQpzc)

45 I'd like some republican to submit a gun control bill that bans any kind of projectile weapon from all federal land... Including all of DC. When I was in DC to protest Obamacare in 2010, they trotted out hundreds of Capitol policemen with AR-15s or M-16s or something. There were snipers on every rooftop. There were black helicopters in the sky. But they want to ban out guns.

Posted by: Truman North, idol of dozens at January 04, 2013 01:48 PM (I2LwF)

46 If any of these law pass, I think my idea of rocket-propelled knives might just take off.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 04, 2013 05:44 PM (Rq+Vo)

Too late. The Russian spetsnatz already have projectile knives. Press a button in the handle and it fires the blade at speed and with great accuracy.

Posted by: troyriser at January 04, 2013 01:48 PM (vtiE6)

47 @21 - a Smith and Wesson Governor. Reviews are up and down all over the web. I like it cos it looks big and mean.

I love S&W revolvers. I have a 1955 Model 25. Damn noisy and with a barrel that looks like the Alaska pipeline.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 04, 2013 01:48 PM (QKKT0)

48 >>>3 Shouldn't they be focusing on violence in movies? Don't forget the violence inherent in the system.

Posted by: Eric the Peasant at January 04, 2013 01:48 PM (Dqcf5)

49 If any of these law pass, I think my idea of rocket-propelled knives might just take off.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 04, 2013 05:44 PM (Rq+Vo)

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Thanks for reminding me. One of my weekend projects was to go to the knife shop at the mall and buy a k-bar.

Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2013 01:48 PM (X70gw)

50 Don't forget lead.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 04, 2013 01:48 PM (oKVrA)

51 We are all semi-automatic now.

Posted by: fluffy at January 04, 2013 01:49 PM (VLfx+)

52 Fuck them all. Cold dead hands.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 04, 2013 01:49 PM (XkWWK)

53 And Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) proposed a bill that would prevent anyone under age 21 from carrying a handgun

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Liberal aren't against all guns, only rifles, shotguns, and handguns.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 04, 2013 01:49 PM (XUKZU)

54 I'm still willing to trade a Weatherby .375 H and H magnum for an M1.

Posted by: Invictus at January 04, 2013 01:49 PM (OQpzc)

55 So if you've served your country in the military, shooting Tolleebon in Afghanistan, you shouldn't be allowed a handgun if you're under 21?

16 year-old gangbangers will appreciate that.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 01:50 PM (UOM48)

56 When I was in DC to protest Obamacare in 2010, they trotted out hundreds of Capitol policemen with AR-15s or M-16s or something. There were snipers on every rooftop. There were black helicopters in the sky. But they want to ban out guns. Posted by: Truman North, idol of dozens at January 04, 2013 05:48 PM (I2LwF) Laws are for thee, not for me. Peasant.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 04, 2013 01:50 PM (IvVLN)

57 Seriously, some republican should submit a bill banning all women from carrying guns-- that would be a good compromise.

Posted by: Truman North, idol of dozens at January 04, 2013 01:50 PM (I2LwF)

58 Shouldn't they be focusing on violence in movies? Posted by: Dr Spank at January 04, 2013 05:37 PM (Rq+Vo) oh yes done

Posted by: movie violence subsidy at January 04, 2013 01:50 PM (LpQbZ)

59 You gotta be 21 to buy a handgun right now. Its been that way for decades. In Texas you can become a commissioned security guard at 18. I did in '82. Could carry to and from work and while at work. Couldn't buy the gun or ammo until 21.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2013 01:50 PM (3wlvV)

60 43 How do you like the Remington 870? I'm really close to pulling the trigger on one.

Family has always had an 870 or two laying about, tried and true. I like the tactical just fine.

Posted by: BuckIV at January 04, 2013 01:51 PM (gedHR)

61 But wait Â– thereÂ’s more! Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA) pushed forward a bill requiring background checks on all gun sales, which would essentially prevent non-gun-shop transfers of weapons.

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Why do Democrats love BIG GUN?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 04, 2013 01:51 PM (HDgX3)

62 This is all BS show for their low-life constituents. They have to now it is going nowhere in the House. They will not even get support from all the Dems.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2013 01:51 PM (53z96)

63 These libs need to man (and woman) up and make all of DC a gun-free zone. No security at the WH, the Capitol....and make Minnie Rodent Jarrett give up her damned Secret Service detail (which still makes my head explode).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 01:51 PM (UOM48)

64 5 New gun control measures have the same chances of passing the House as spending cuts: No chance.

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 05:38 PM (Hz1zc)

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I take it you were asleep from about 11/6 to 1/2 ?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 04, 2013 01:52 PM (HDgX3)

65 When I was in DC to protest Obamacare in 2010, they trotted out hundreds of Capitol policemen with AR-15s or M-16s or something. There were snipers on every rooftop. There were black helicopters in the sky. But they want to ban out guns. Posted by: Truman North, idol of dozens at January 04, 2013 05:48 PM (I2LwF) ----------------------------------------------------- Not OUR guns..... YOUR guns. We want to ban YOUR guns.

Posted by: ATF at January 04, 2013 01:52 PM (jucos)

66 Those who would choose pancakes over waffles, deserve neither pancakes nor waffles.

Posted by: Barack "Fig Syrup" Obama at January 04, 2013 01:52 PM (Dqcf5)

67 They should just submit a bill criminalizing everything. That way they can throw anybody in jail they want.

Posted by: Truman North, idol of dozens at January 04, 2013 01:52 PM (I2LwF)

68 43 I have a Remington 870, I love it, however when I clean it I always ALWAYS have an issue reinserting the slide block, and breech bolt back into the receiver. It does not want to stay positioned properly on the action bars for some reason. There's got to be a trick, as I appear to be the only one who ever owned one that has this problem.

Just bought a Benelli M2 which doesnt have the same problem for me, but also doesnt have the satisfying sound that racking the 870 does.

Posted by: BoGart at January 04, 2013 01:52 PM (Ugngr)

69 Dunce Jordan gets all its facts from wiki and huffpo. So when it says look it up, that's your cue to laff.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2013 01:52 PM (+oin+)

70 Notice also that everyone of these shitbrains are from districts where they cold eat live babies on network TV and still get reelected.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2013 01:53 PM (53z96)

71 "How do you like the Remington 870? I'm really close to pulling the trigger on one.:"

Does Remington still sell the 870 Express Marine Magnum? Nickle-plated..

Posted by: mrp at January 04, 2013 01:53 PM (HjPtV)

72 "60 43 How do you like the Remington 870? I'm really close to pulling the trigger on one." Pull it! The Wingmaster is the best hunting gun as well as the best home defense weapon.

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 01:53 PM (Hz1zc)

73
Looks like these gun control bills are all going first to the House Committee on the Judiciary. Good thing we're got our A Team working there.

Committee Members
Quayle (R) Arizona, 3rd

Oh fuuuu....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 04, 2013 01:53 PM (kdS6q)

74 TFG needs to lead by example: No guns for his security detail.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 01:53 PM (UOM48)

75 53 And Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) proposed a bill that would prevent anyone under age 21 from carrying a handgun

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Liberal aren't against all guns, only rifles, shotguns, and handguns.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 04, 2013 05:49 PM (XUKZU)

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Let's be fair, they would allow you to keep a water gun and a Nerf gun.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 04, 2013 01:53 PM (HDgX3)

76 Any football on tonight?

Posted by: Truman North, idol of dozens at January 04, 2013 01:53 PM (I2LwF)

77 According to Dunce Jordan, Somalia would make for a great vacation spot...safer than anywhere in the USA, even.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2013 01:54 PM (FC8Yl)

78 43 60...can't go wrong with an 870 or a Mossberg 500...

Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2013 01:54 PM (KAAnO)

79 76 Any football on tonight? Posted by: Truman North, idol of dozens

Texas A&M v. Oklahoma

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 04, 2013 01:54 PM (Rq+Vo)

80 ..has Jordan the Court Jester posted pix of its guns yet?

Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2013 01:55 PM (KAAnO)

81
According to Dunce Jordan, Somalia would make for a great vacation spot...safer than anywhere in the USA, even.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2013 05:54 PM (FC8Yl)

____________

Somalia must be safer.

There are no white people there and since only white people commit crimes, it must be crime free. And there is a nationwide gun ban too.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 04, 2013 01:55 PM (HDgX3)

82 "Ace, since Moran's son kicked his girlfriend's ass would he pass the background check?"

Well of course - democrats are exempt.

Posted by: Chris M at January 04, 2013 01:55 PM (b3vSq)

83 "Guns are about 1% of the deadly threat to American lives that abortion mills are."

A typical liar. Look it up.

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 05:47 PM (Hz1zc)

There have been over 12,000 abortions in the US so far into 2013. Gun deaths, not so much.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 04, 2013 01:55 PM (XUKZU)

84 I'll consider Sheila Jackson Lee's legislative offerings when she can produce the photo of the flag our astronauts put on mars.

Posted by: Truman North, idol of dozens at January 04, 2013 01:55 PM (I2LwF)

85 "76 Any football on tonight?" Nothing that matters. Roll Tide!

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 01:55 PM (Hz1zc)

86 The Remington 870 has been the top shotgun in America for about 60 years. It's probably alright.

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 01:56 PM (XDC0v)

87 >>Too late. The Russian spetsnatz already have projectile knives.

The Russian's are pussies.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 04, 2013 01:56 PM (Rq+Vo)

88 That's live white babies, Vic.

Posted by: bigred. at January 04, 2013 01:56 PM (mIcI8)

89 Jordan is here parading his intelligence again.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 04, 2013 01:56 PM (QKKT0)

90 stick your head back up your ass Jordan, you look better that way.

Posted by: Killerdog at January 04, 2013 01:56 PM (gYvhT)

91 Can we ignore Jordon for this thread.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2013 01:56 PM (53z96)

92 More people are killed with hammers than guns.

JORDAN: Look it up buddy. FBI stats.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 04, 2013 01:56 PM (HDgX3)

93 I now hate Alabama.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 04, 2013 01:57 PM (Rq+Vo)

94 This is all BS show for their low-life constituents. They have to now it is going nowhere in the House. They will not even get support from all the Dems.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2013 05:51 PM (53z96)

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I'm just sitting back and watching the circus. Aren't clowns supposed to make you laugh? Not evil clowns, maybe, but good clowns. Are there any good clowns?

Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2013 01:57 PM (X70gw)

95 30 And Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) proposed a bill that would prevent anyone under age 21 from carrying a handgun

You gotta be 21 to buy a handgun right now. Its been that way for decades.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 04, 2013 05:45 PM (hc3eM)

Sshhhh....she's on a roll.

Posted by: Tami at January 04, 2013 01:57 PM (X6akg)

96 Thanks Dr. Spankypants

Posted by: Truman North, idol of dozens at January 04, 2013 01:57 PM (I2LwF)

97 Pull it! The Wingmaster is the best hunting gun as well as the best home defense weapon.

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 05:53 PM (Hz1zc)

Yeah, just hang a bayonet on that 30" barrel and you have a reasonable spear. If the balloon goes up, my wife's Wingmaster is going to make friends with Mr. Hacksaw.

Posted by: Invictus at January 04, 2013 01:57 PM (OQpzc)

98 "89 Jordan is here parading his intelligence again. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 04, 2013 05:56 PM (QKKT0) 90 stick your head back up your ass Jordan, you look better that way." Roll Tide!

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 01:57 PM (Hz1zc)

99 I really have no interest in the national championship game. A football factory school versus an asshole factory school. It's a lose-lose.

Posted by: Truman North, idol of dozens at January 04, 2013 01:58 PM (I2LwF)

100 78 43 60...can't go wrong with an 870 or a Mossberg 500... Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2013 05:54 PM (KAAnO) Debating between... http://tinyurl.com/avcr454 and http://tinyurl.com/ctah9c4

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 04, 2013 01:58 PM (IvVLN)

101 THIS is why I gotz me a Hanwei Katana.

Posted by: Protected by the[i] Kill Bill[/i] Subsidy at January 04, 2013 01:58 PM (LpQbZ)

102 Ace, since Moran's son kicked his girlfriend's ass would he pass the background check?

Background checks are only for you little people. We, the enlightened ruling class, need no such impediments. We are holy, clean, and above reproach, by definition of the D that follows our names. Praise the Republic.

Posted by: Nope, I don't own *any* guns at January 04, 2013 01:58 PM (WYR8b)

103 >>> since only white people commit crimes... Whoa! Here at AoS we strive for accuracy...using scientific methods. Whites don't commit all crimes, per se, they are however the root cause of all crime in the world.

Posted by: soothsayer, king of siam at January 04, 2013 01:59 PM (+oin+)

104 You guys remember that movie with Eddie Murphy when he wins an election by having the same name as the dead guy before him? I think this could happen in real life with Sheila Jackson Lee. Her constituents are that stupid.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 04, 2013 01:59 PM (HDgX3)

105
H.R.142 To require face to face purchases of ammunition, to require licensing of ammunition dealers, and to require reporting regarding bulk purchases of ammunition. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn [NY-4]

So much for mail-order....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 04, 2013 01:59 PM (kdS6q)

106 Roll Tide roll Round the bowl And down the hole!

Posted by: Jordumb at January 04, 2013 01:59 PM (UgFxe)

107

Let's start this whole gun ban issue with Fast & Furious shall we? Our government is allowed to let weapons to cross the border to drug cartels, no tracking of weapons, and they are used in murders? But this same government wants to disarm law abiding citizens?

Sheila Jackson Lee reminds me of the other genius, Dem. Rep. Gwen Moore who after a particularly inane interview on MSNBC led fellow democrats in chants of "Death to Republicans!".

These are your people Jordon, aren't you proud?

Posted by: Cheri at January 04, 2013 01:59 PM (G+Wff)

108 92 More people are killed with hammers than guns

Rifles, not all guns, just long guns.

Posted by: BuckIV at January 04, 2013 01:59 PM (gedHR)

109 I already know what kind of gun I'm going to buy: a blue one

Posted by: Truman North, idol of dozens at January 04, 2013 02:00 PM (I2LwF)

110 Nothing that matters. Roll Tide!
Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 05:55 PM (Hz1zc)

Ahh....that explains a lot.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 04, 2013 02:00 PM (UK9cE)

111 Here at AoS we strive for accuracy...using scientific methods.

Whites don't commit all crimes, per se, they are however the root cause of all crime in the world.

Posted by: soothsayer, king of siam at January 04, 2013 05:59 PM (+oin+)

____________________

My bad. And actually it's not white people, it's white, heterosexual men.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 04, 2013 02:00 PM (HDgX3)

112 Any football on tonight? Texas A & M vs. Oklahoma. Cotton Bowl.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2013 02:00 PM (3wlvV)

113 What's a shame is, there are like 188 democrats in the house. So really, they've come up about 180 bills short of "par for the course"

Posted by: Truman North, idol of dozens at January 04, 2013 02:00 PM (I2LwF)

114

CHOOT 'EM!! CHOOT 'EM!!

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at January 04, 2013 02:01 PM (yvSVk)

115 50 cans of tuna

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 04, 2013 02:01 PM (oKVrA)

116 Beck has a pretty funny video on The Blaze of a debate regarding gun control on Hannity. The pro gun control guy puts his hands over his ears like a five year old to avoid hearing the gun right's guy's argument. "I can't hear you. Nah nah nah nah nah nah."

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 04, 2013 02:01 PM (XUKZU)

117 "Texas A & M vs. Oklahoma. Cotton Bowl." O hell yeah. Go Aggies!

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 02:01 PM (Hz1zc)

118 "Its been that way for decades."

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 04, 2013 05:45 PM (hc3eM)

Um....it was introduced by Sheila Lee...who has been profoundly ignorant and stupid for decades.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 04, 2013 02:02 PM (GsoHv)

119 Carolyn McCarthy D+3 but went for Obama by > 10 points in 2008

Booby Rush D+34 need not say more

Shitty Jackson Lee D+24

Jim Moron D+16

So the NY scrunt is in the lowest D rated district but Obama won in by a landslide in a State that loves it some gun control.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2013 02:02 PM (53z96)

120 THIS is why I gotz me a Hanwei Katana.

Posted by: Protected by the Kill Bill Subsidy at January 04, 2013 05:58 PM (LpQbZ)

I have a broadsword that used to be a leafspring.

My freedom purchase this week was not a firearm, but a drill press and a stand grinder.

Posted by: Invictus at January 04, 2013 02:02 PM (OQpzc)

121 White people don't commit all crimes, that's crazy.

We did invent Aids though. And crack. And you know what we did with them.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 04, 2013 02:03 PM (Rq+Vo)

122 Christian Heterosexual Armed White Males CHAWMs A Leftist's perfect scapegoat.

Posted by: Truman North, idol of dozens at January 04, 2013 02:03 PM (I2LwF)

123 Any football on tonight?

Texas A & M vs. Oklahoma. Cotton Bowl.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2013 06:00 PM (3wlvV)

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It's officially known as the Tampex Cotton Bowl.

Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2013 02:03 PM (X70gw)

124 The Mossberg 500 has only been around since 1961. 50 years versus 60 for the 870.

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 02:03 PM (XDC0v)

125 >>>New gun control measures have the same chances of passing the House as spending cuts: No chance. Hahah, just wait a couple years. Democrats will have both houses.

Posted by: Eaton Cox is kind of a LIBNO at January 04, 2013 02:04 PM (q177U)

126 >>> it's white, heterosexual men. You are learning, grasshopper. We know, scientifically, that it is white heterosexual Christian and Joo men that is the root cause for all the bad in the world.

Posted by: soothsayer, king of siam at January 04, 2013 02:04 PM (LPRBM)

127 120 Prudent

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 02:05 PM (XDC0v)

128 I passed 100 gun-control measures.

Out my rectum.

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 02:05 PM (P1xyf)

129 "4 The Mossberg 500 has only been around since 1961. 50 years versus 60 for the 870." The 870 is the best god-damned gun you can own.

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 02:05 PM (Hz1zc)

130 It's officially known as the Tampex Cotton Bowl. Hmmm. Because Oklahoma is in it? I keed, I keed.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2013 02:05 PM (3wlvV)

131 100 Cant go wrong with either one of those. I went with M2 cause I thought I might want to try some 3-gun at some point and its faster than my 870 and inertial is supposed to be more reliable than gas recoil. Which ever one you go with, invest in a tube extension. More shots = more love.

Posted by: BoGart at January 04, 2013 02:06 PM (Ugngr)

132 Come on, some cranky 'Pub tender a bill requiring ownership of a gun or you have to pay a $700 fine collected by the IRS.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2013 02:06 PM (XN0LR)

133 It's officially known as the Tampex Cotton Bowl. I thought it was the Dr. Scholl's Odor Eater Bowl?

Posted by: Truman North, idol of dozens at January 04, 2013 02:06 PM (I2LwF)

134 Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 04, 2013 05:58 PM (IvVLN) 100
I have the older Mossberg 500 with pistol grip only...I really like the new Tactical Persuader...but that 870 spec ops is pretty sweet too...prices for each as equiped for you?...have you fired either?

Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2013 02:06 PM (KAAnO)

135
These bastards are gonna make a criminal of me yet. Not that I haven't violated at least some of the 30 million laws in this country, I'm sure.

I better buy some more lead.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 04, 2013 02:07 PM (69Mdf)

136 We seem to forget why the 2nd Amendment exists. It is to allow citizens the ability to dispose of a government that is abusive. Period. It is not for "Hunting" or "Target Shooting." It is to protect us from the government. Gee, why would the government want on jump on every opportunity to create restrictive gun legislation. Hummm....

Posted by: Truman North, idol of dozens at January 04, 2013 02:07 PM (I2LwF)

137

Congress can do what they want. I got my weapons and ammo. In time our stores will have replenished their ammo supplies if I need more.

If they want me to register my firearms, they're SOL. It is my right to have them.

Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2013 02:07 PM (X70gw)

138 Posted by: Truman North, idol of dozens at January 04, 2013 06:00 PM (I2LwF)

Blued supremacist I see.

There are many other colors and finishes in the beautiful mosaic that is the gun world.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 04, 2013 02:07 PM (GsoHv)

139 I prefer the Mossberg 590 over the Remington 870 due to the placement of the controls. However, either will serve equally well and will last several lifetimes.

Posted by: Witchfinder at January 04, 2013 02:07 PM (pLTLS)

140 >> Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA) pushed forward a bill requiring background checks on all gun sales, which would essentially prevent non-gun-shop transfers of weapons. In any other sector of the economy, the affected business would back that legislation and join the rent-seeker rolls. Gun store owners are smart enough to know you can't feed this alligator.

Posted by: Andy at January 04, 2013 02:08 PM (XN0LR)

141 >>> CHAWMs so close to brilliance, Tru! if you can somehow add a "P" at the end, CHAWMPs would be a great evil acronym for us.

Posted by: soothsayer, king of siam at January 04, 2013 02:08 PM (8dspl)

142 Where is Moran from originally?

Aside from sounding like a garden variety, corrupt, muzzie loving Dhim, his accent sounds more like Boston than VA.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 04, 2013 02:08 PM (aZ6ew)

143 I have the older Mossberg 500 with pistol grip only...I really like the new Tactical Persuader...but that 870 spec ops is pretty sweet too...prices for each as equiped for you?...have you fired either? Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2013 06:06 PM (KAAnO) Cursory glance shows the Remington to be quite a bit more expensive. I have not had a chance to fire them. Very limited opportunity. No public shotgun ranges around me.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 04, 2013 02:08 PM (IvVLN)

144 The 870 is the best god-damned gun you can own.

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 06:05 PM (Hz1zc)

The Belgian Browning A5 is the best shotgun ever manufactured. Buy two.

Posted by: Invictus at January 04, 2013 02:09 PM (OQpzc)

145 The 870 is the best god-damned gun you can own.
Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 06:05 PM (Hz1zc)

...yours is day-glo green with an orange flash suppressor, right?

Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2013 02:09 PM (KAAnO)

146 You guys remember that movie with Eddie Murphy when he wins an election by having the same name as the dead guy before him? I think this could happen in real life with Sheila Jackson Lee. Her constituents are that stupid. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 04, 2013 05:59 PM (HDgX3) lol, so true.

Posted by: tgibeachf at January 04, 2013 02:09 PM (LpQbZ)

147 Hmmm. Because Oklahoma is in it? I keed, I keed.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2013 06:05 PM (3wlvV)

-----------------------------------------

There's nothing wrong with being surrounded by pussy.

Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2013 02:09 PM (X70gw)

148 Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2013 06:06 PM (KAAnO)

I've been eying the pistol grip pumps, but I am suspicious about how controllable they are. I'm not worried about recoil, but it seems that a short barreled pump with a stock will return to target more quickly.

Comments?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 04, 2013 02:10 PM (GsoHv)

149 Posted by: Dr Spank at January 04, 2013 05:44 PM (Rq+Vo)

There's always an opportunity to make money. Go for it. I'd love one! Or two...

Posted by: Pentangle at January 04, 2013 02:10 PM (JwuOq)

150
Make sure to call your reps and tell them to stand firm.

If the GOP caves on this...

Posted by: RarestRX at January 04, 2013 02:10 PM (9ct4e)

151 I've been eying the pistol grip pumps, but I am suspicious about how controllable they are. I'm not worried about recoil, but it seems that a short barreled pump with a stock will return to target more quickly. Comments? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 04, 2013 06:10 PM (GsoHv) Pretty much everything I've read says that they're a bitch on your hand and wrist. Plus much harder to be accurate with.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 04, 2013 02:11 PM (IvVLN)

152 Pistol grip only equipped shotguns suck and are worthless (unless they are dedicated breachers.) Get a shotgun with a stock.

Posted by: Witchfinder at January 04, 2013 02:11 PM (pLTLS)

153 Remember when Leftists were accusing teh Evil McShrubitlerchimp of using "teh fear of teh Muslims" to bring about a totalitarian police state reminiscent of 1984? Projection.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 04, 2013 02:12 PM (mb+Yr)

154 My law stipulates not only that we'll forbid guns, we'll absolutely forbid guns. I'm sure it will work this time. Criminals will follow this law.

And you really don't have to fear the government for its gun confiscation. The Nazis, for example, just confiscated them wrong.

Posted by: Rep. Bobby Rush (D-IL) at January 04, 2013 02:12 PM (eHIJJ)

155 Light bulbs aren't light bulbs, they're German space heaters.

Guns aren't guns, they're Gorn ventilation units.

Posted by: pep at January 04, 2013 02:12 PM (6TB1Z)

156 Cursory glance shows the Remington to be quite a bit more expensive. I have not had a chance to fire them. Very limited opportunity. No public shotgun ranges around me.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 04, 2013 06:08 PM (IvVLN)

...you can't go wrong with either -- friends had both so I was able to handle and fire multiple times before buying. I chose the Mossberg for its...concealability...

Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2013 02:13 PM (KAAnO)

157 148 The 3-gun folks say traditional stock is faster than the pistol grips, I would think if you have the room, more mass up front will return to target faster. For home defense though... I think its a tradeoff between being able to move with it and getting back on target.

Posted by: BoGart at January 04, 2013 02:13 PM (Ugngr)

158 Jordan just needs a nap and a spiffy song. http://tiny.cc/acteqw Understand his crankiness since he recently lost a member of his group.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at January 04, 2013 02:13 PM (YYyqq)

159 My freedom purchase this week was not a firearm, but a drill press and a stand grinder. Posted by: Invictus at January 04, 2013 06:02 PM (OQpzc) Nice. I've built some fine furniture in the past, so had a nice wood shop a few years back. When I moved, most recently, I had to sell off my heavy equipment as they were way to much to move due to the weight. I kept all of my hand tools, and small power tools, of course. Slowly building my machinery back up. I miss my bandsaw probably the most. But, the drill press, a good 2nd.

Posted by: tgibeachf at January 04, 2013 02:13 PM (LpQbZ)

160 Related via Twitter:

@loudobbsnews

Putnam County Exec. MaryEllen Odell explains why she will never reveal the names of gun owners to The Journal News. 7pm on #LouDobbsTonight

Posted by: Y-not at January 04, 2013 02:14 PM (5H6zj)

161 The 870 is the best god-damned gun you can own. Watch. The. Blasphemy.

Posted by: Gabriel at January 04, 2013 02:14 PM (PMGbu)

162 This proves nothing! Those Democrats are outliers!

I mean, out-liars.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 04, 2013 02:14 PM (Tt6ky)

163

You just wait until possession of boxing gloves is a crime. Nationally, I mean.

Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at January 04, 2013 02:15 PM (z4+1a)

164 "Guns are about 1% of the deadly threat to American lives that abortion mills are." A typical liar. Look it up. Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 05:47 PM (Hz1zc) Dumbass. Not counting suicides (and hey, aren't leftists are all about the "right to die?"), the numbers fit perfectly. Perfectly.

Posted by: Chicagorefugee at January 04, 2013 02:15 PM (MbXOQ)

165 Pretty much everything I've read says that they're a bitch on your hand and wrist. And lips, nose, and forehead. At least the 12 gauge is.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2013 02:15 PM (3wlvV)

166 if you can somehow add a "P" at the end, CHAWMPs would be a great evil acronym for us. Posted by: soothsayer, king of siam at January 04, 2013 06:08 PM (8dspl)

Yes! I've always wanted a great evil acronym!

I'm not worried too much about these new gun grabs. Quite a few Dems are smart enough to see the demographics of the 'newest' gun owners, and will cast their minds ahead to 2014. On the other hand, ya never want to get lackadaisical about 2nd, so eyes open.

Posted by: Pentangle at January 04, 2013 02:16 PM (JwuOq)

167 Jordan just needs a dirt nap

Fixed.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 04, 2013 02:16 PM (BoHve)

168 One too many "are"s in my last post. Aaarrrgh!

Posted by: Chicagorefugee at January 04, 2013 02:17 PM (MbXOQ)

169 BCochran1981 http://tinyurl.com/9f9rmhz

Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2013 02:17 PM (KAAnO)

170 ot, but lol my house has become a bakery today tourtiere for dinner fresh bread for the weekend brownies, for, meh, don't need a reason for chocolate... Just keeping my house warm. It's too cold for comfort up yonder.

Posted by: Not exactly Bouchon Bakery, but it works at January 04, 2013 02:17 PM (LpQbZ)

171 "163 You just wait until possession of boxing gloves is a crime. Nationally, I mean. Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at January 04, 2013 06:15 PM (z4+1a) " Makes sense. Ever try to donkey punch someone while wearing boxing gloves? awk-WARD.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 04, 2013 02:17 PM (mb+Yr)

172 Those proposals seem sensible to me!

Posted by: Iosef Stalin at January 04, 2013 02:18 PM (Vk2pI)

173 Debating between...

http://tinyurl.com/azjhogb

and

http://tinyurl.com/a6bxoxw

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 04, 2013 05:58 PM (IvVLN)

FIFY

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 04, 2013 02:18 PM (GsoHv)

174 Jordan just needs a dirt nap
Fixed.
Posted by: Waterhouse

Wouldn't hold him for long. He'd just eat his way to the surface.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 04, 2013 02:18 PM (KDq5l)

175 I have a Remington 870 with a 100-round removable tube clip.

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 02:18 PM (P1xyf)

176 Scaramanga's gun fired venom-coated bullets. Where can you find those?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 04, 2013 02:19 PM (oKVrA)

177 More people commit suicide with handguns than are murdered with handguns! Aren't Liberals the pro-euthanasia party?!

Source: FBI stats

Posted by: Dan at January 04, 2013 02:19 PM (vQtvL)

178 "172 Those proposals seem sensible to me! Posted by: Iosef Stalin at January 04, 2013 06:18 PM (Vk2pI) " "Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas." -- Joseph Stalin "If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves." -- Joseph Stalin

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 04, 2013 02:19 PM (mb+Yr)

179 For a 12 gauge with pistol grip, look up Serbu Super Shorty. www dot serbu dot com.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2013 02:19 PM (3wlvV)

180 Even in a private sale, if the seller had reason to suspect the buyer may be prohibited, the seller IS legally on the hook, even under current law.

A private sale is NOT an exemption from due diligence.

An easy "fix" would be to simply have private sales require a signed 4473 the seller would retain. It forces the buyer to answer all the questions and protects the seller if the buyer lies.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 04, 2013 02:19 PM (hc3eM)

181 I have a Remington 870 with a 100-round removable tube clip. I believe that's a Red Ryder 870...

Posted by: t-bird at January 04, 2013 02:20 PM (FcR7P)

182 173 thats a fine butt on that stock on the first one, but Im a bit concerned on the trigger pull.

Posted by: BoGart at January 04, 2013 02:20 PM (Ugngr)

183 There were approximately 32K gun deaths last year
There were approximately 1.4M abortions last year

There are 4283% more abortions than gun deaths.

Some more stats for Jordan he who sucks cock by choice.

From 1981-2001 there have been 707,635 gun deaths, 948,135 vehicular deaths and 25,840,584 abortions

Guns don't kill people. People with Dr. in their name kill people!

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 04, 2013 02:20 PM (RrD4h)

184 I have a Red Ryder. It's up in my room.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 04, 2013 02:21 PM (oKVrA)

185 Bobby rush introduced a anti-gun bill? The domestic terrorist bobby rush? Really?

Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 04, 2013 02:21 PM (ogVxN)

186 Will they open the re-education camps during this Obama term or next? I only ask because it will take time to take away the guns, but then again you may need the camps for those who refuse to give their guns up. Watching the US' future through movies about Nazi death camps.

Posted by: ALL_IS_LOST at January 04, 2013 02:21 PM (T/L2Z)

187 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 04, 2013 06:10 PM (GsoHv)

I like it...but it does require more control and can be an absolute bitch with stronger loads (magnum)...as mentioned to BC1981, I bought it for concealability.

Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2013 02:21 PM (KAAnO)

188 "177 More people commit suicide with handguns than are murdered with handguns! Aren't Liberals the pro-euthanasia party?! Source: FBI stats Posted by: Dan at January 04, 2013 06:19 PM (vQtvL) " They're only in favor of "extremely regulated euthanasia." Everything must be "extremely regulated."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 04, 2013 02:22 PM (mb+Yr)

189 Posted by: BoGart at January 04, 2013 06:20 PM (Ugngr)

As long as you can get a finger in there.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 04, 2013 02:22 PM (GsoHv)

190 100 rounds? You're gonna poke an eye out with that...

(ellipsis mine)

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at January 04, 2013 02:22 PM (zpqa2)

191 169 BCochran1981 http://tinyurl.com/9f9rmhz

Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2013 06:17 PM (KAAnO)

http://tinyurl.com/avhuofk

I cannot imagine even trying to bag dinner with the Mossberg.
The 870 has provided me with excellent meals for 35 years, though.
And I can hip-shoot it if I need to, but mostly I like to stay on target.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at January 04, 2013 02:22 PM (Qxe/p)

192 This is all BS show for their low-life constituents. They have to now it is going nowhere in the House. They will not even get support from all the Dems.

Hopefully Vic you didn't hear this from Speaker Boehner.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at January 04, 2013 02:24 PM (kqqGm)

193 Sheila Jackson Lee, the dumbass that makes Cynthia McKinney look smart. Texas is ashamed of her.

Posted by: L, elle at January 04, 2013 02:24 PM (qG1i2)

194 Guns don't kill people. People with Dr. in their name kill people! Posted by: General Woundwort at January 04, 2013 06:20 PM (RrD4h) Add in "medical misadventure." Doctors - greatest threat to mankind, or menace?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 04, 2013 02:25 PM (bxiXv)

195 Pistol grip shotguns with no stock? Those are illegal here in California. Unless you can get it classified as a "sexual aide".

Posted by: wooga at January 04, 2013 02:26 PM (Dqcf5)

196

I'm serious about boxing gloves btw. while I'm no lawyer, CA penal code definitions look so sloppy that pretty much anything would be "composite knuckles". I don't know how to find all the references or exemptions, but I expect lawmakers to be as lazy as possible.

16405.

As used in this part, Â“composite knucklesÂ” means any device or instrument made wholly or partially of composite materials, other than a medically prescribed prosthetic, that is not metal knuckles, that is worn for purposes of offense or defense in or on the hand, and that either protects the wearerÂ’s hand while striking a blow or increases the force of impact from the blow or injury to the individual receiving the blow.

Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at January 04, 2013 02:27 PM (z4+1a)

197 There are more expensive shotguns.

There are more refined and fancy shotguns.

But none are better than a Remington 870.

It insists upon itself

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 04, 2013 02:27 PM (RrD4h)

198
There are lots of reasons to argue against registering firearms, the best one being 'because fuck you, that's why'... but that being said just look at what that stupid newspaper did and there's a good reason right there.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 04, 2013 02:27 PM (69Mdf)

199 Texas is ashamed of her.

Posted by: L, elle at January 04, 2013 06:24 PM (qG1i2)

No we are not. Isn't she next in line to be Chairman of the Finance committee if the Dem take control of the House? That will be all kinds of win. If Dems take the house, she is gonna rule the banking industry.

Go ahead, limo libs. Make our day.

Posted by: Invictus at January 04, 2013 02:27 PM (OQpzc)

200 There are 4283% more abortions than gun deaths.

We haven't even gotten to the women who have been beaten or strangled to death by their boyfriends/husbands/abusers for refusing to have an abortion.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 04, 2013 02:27 PM (hO8IJ)

201 Looks like these gun control bills are all going first to the House Committee on the Judiciary. Good thing we're got our A Team working there.

Dollars to donuts the Dems will put their heavy-weight gun grabbers on the committee this session. They already have Conyers.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at January 04, 2013 02:28 PM (kqqGm)

202 If this crap passes, all it means is black market; cartels; money laundering spikes.

Posted by: the underground revolution at January 04, 2013 02:28 PM (LpQbZ)

203 So, Ace, since you came to work late today, you're going to stay up late and post extra tonight, right?

Posted by: L, elle at January 04, 2013 02:28 PM (qG1i2)

204 "194 Guns don't kill people. People with Dr. in their name kill people! Posted by: General Woundwort at January 04, 2013 06:20 PM (RrD4h) Add in "medical misadventure." Doctors - greatest threat to mankind, or menace? Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 04, 2013 06:25 PM (bxiXv) " Doctors who shit all over the Hippocratic Oath should perhaps abort/euthanize themselves.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 04, 2013 02:28 PM (mb+Yr)

205 I cxan't get a s&w mp shield, a Kimber solo or a s&w MP ar-15 sport. My local sporting goods store has a restriction on ammo purchases of 300 rounds as most are gone, shelves are bare and they tell me they won't be getting any of the above weapons anytime soon.
Guess i was late to the party but hey my 20 gun cabinet is full some will have to be hidden.

Posted by: ConcealedKerry Forgit Mitt at January 04, 2013 02:28 PM (APrEV)

206 A football factory school versus an asshole factory school. In fairness, Alabama is both a football and asshole factory.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 04, 2013 02:29 PM (QupBk)

207 Brought to you by the number 2
Big Bird gets two in the hat

Posted by: Runs with Scissors at January 04, 2013 02:29 PM (tdaam)

208 As used in this part, Â“composite knuckles� means any device or instrument made wholly or partially of composite materials, other than a medically prescribed prosthetic, that is not metal knuckles, that is worn for purposes of offense or defense in or on the hand, For defense? Against getting knuckles torn up on a jobsite? Who knew Kali was so anti-OSHA?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2013 02:29 PM (3wlvV)

209 198 the best reason is the answer I used to use at my last command when confronted with a dumb question "Dude, I got a gun, that's why"

Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 04, 2013 02:30 PM (CPoFy)

210 197 There are more expensive shotguns.There are more refined and fancy shotguns. But none are better than a Remington 870. +1

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 02:30 PM (Hz1zc)

211 Doctors who shit all over the Hippocratic Oath

lulz

That's even older than the US Constitution!

Posted by: Juicebox Klein at January 04, 2013 02:30 PM (BoHve)

212 "203 So, Ace, since you came to work late today, you're going to stay up late and post extra tonight, right? Posted by: L, elle at January 04, 2013 06:28 PM (qG1i2) " Quality is much more important than quantity. Although quantity is good too.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 04, 2013 02:31 PM (mb+Yr)

213

You'd think that folks who like to describe themselves as "liberals" wouldn't want to ban so much stuff and curtail so many liberties. It makes me think that either they don't understand the meaning of the word or they're a bunch of fucking liars. Maybe both!

Yeah, I know. That's some pretty heavy stuff for a site like this, but i think you guys can handle it.

Posted by: Jaws at January 04, 2013 02:31 PM (A3yiq)

214 Posted by: ConcealedKerry Forgit Mitt at January 04, 2013 06:28 PM (APrEV)

SW has sold the sh*t out of the Shield since its introduction...dealer here in Ohio can't keep them in stock -- and that was before CT.

I was one week late on getting an SW MP Sport15...

Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2013 02:32 PM (KAAnO)

215 Sure it's all a show for their constituents. But notice the different media treatment Democrats get for actually proposing ridiculous, extremist legislation, and the treatment a Republican gets for saying something that liberals don't like.

Where's the "ZOMG Democrats proposing extreme laws!"? Where's the media freakout?

If it weren't for double standards, liberals wouldn't have any standards at all.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 04, 2013 02:32 PM (Tt6ky)

216 205. Not 'hidden" "Lost in a boating accident" Practice now

Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 04, 2013 02:32 PM (CPoFy)

217 "211 Doctors who shit all over the Hippocratic Oath lulz That's even older than the US Constitution! Posted by: Juicebox Klein at January 04, 2013 06:30 PM (BoHve) " Yep. Hippocrates is one Dead White Male.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 04, 2013 02:33 PM (mb+Yr)

218 Putnam County Exec. MaryEllen Odell explains why she
will never reveal the names of gun owners to The Journal News. 7pm on #LouDobbsTonight
Posted by: Y-not at January 04, 2013 06:14 PM (5H6zj)

I'm glad to hear O'Dell is on our side. I've always been leery of her, seems like a bit of an eco-nut. She first ran for the job in 2010 and lost the primary to Vinnie Liebel, who was being prosecuted for corruption charges at the time. Went Liebel was convicted and went to prison shortly after becoming County Exec, O'Dell won the special election to replace him. For the record, I voted for Liebel over her, but I'm glad to see her stand up to the gun grabbers, maybe I'll vote for her in the primary next year.

Posted by: mugiwara at January 04, 2013 02:34 PM (hpYnL)

219 Gun bans with seizure are just a necessary stop-gap until that day, coming soon, when they will have succeeded in perfecting Human Nature through the tax code. The prestigious Brookings Institution has had top men working on this, and it is now ready for Congress. Rep. Lee (D-TX1

will champion it.

Posted by: Thorvald at January 04, 2013 02:35 PM (1V6Pv)

220 My bill would be a mandate for all citizens to become proficient in the use of firearms.

Your own personal firearm would be issued to you between Home Economics and Study Hall in the ninth grade.

Posted by: Fritz at January 04, 2013 02:35 PM (w3+gB)

221 @219 Lee, D-TX18

Posted by: Thorvald at January 04, 2013 02:35 PM (1V6Pv)

222 But wait Â– thereÂ’s more! Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA) pushed forward a bill requiring background checks on all gun sales, which would essentially prevent non-gun-shop transfers of weapons.

To close "the gun show loophole" in CO you can get a background check and then buy a gun from a private seller. But I agree that the bill is yet one more hobble on our freedoms. Its already illegal to make a strawman gun purchase and re-sell to someone who can't pass a background check. Didn't stop that creep in NY from getting a gun.

Posted by: PaleRider at January 04, 2013 02:35 PM (dkExz)

223
They really should take these proposals send them thru the committes where they are amended to be the exact opposite of what the dems want them to be and make the dems vote against their own gun control bills.

But that would take cunning and wile.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 04, 2013 02:37 PM (69Mdf)

224 errr why aren't ya'll talking about fat yet?

Posted by: tgibeachf at January 04, 2013 02:37 PM (LpQbZ)

225 Didn't some muchkin fro West Virginny shoot a hole in gun control laws. With that rat on our side no way this crap passes.

I know responsible Concealed Kerry folks and avid hunters who try to tell me no one needs a 30 round clip. I tell these assholes no one needs a corvette or camaro either, Jackasses were f@cked!
This country is f@cked stock up while you can cause the coming civil war will be a hoot.

Posted by: ConcealedKerry Forgit Mitt at January 04, 2013 02:37 PM (APrEV)

226 But none are better than a Remington 870.

It insists upon itself

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 04, 2013 06:27 PM (RrD4h)

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Agree.

Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2013 02:38 PM (X70gw)

227 Doctors - greatest threat to mankind, or menace? Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 04, 2013 06:25 PM (bxiXv) " Coming to America via Obamacare? Â“CompassionÂ” Under Socialist Healthcare: Dying Â“Like A Battery HenÂ” http://tinyurl.com/aqwhg4a British Healthcare Policy: Killing Babies Slowly & Painfully http://tinyurl.com/ckcabcg The Biggest Victims Of Socialized Healthcare Are Babies http://tinyurl.com/czjp6mn Danish Doctors Try to Harvest Organs of Healthy Girl Declared Â“Brain DeadÂ” http://tinyurl.com/bd4v5ro EuropeÂ’s Death Penalty: Slaughter of the Innocents http://tinyurl.com/d5zjje5

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 04, 2013 02:38 PM (Vk2pI)

228 Y'all seemed very supportive of gun-grabber Romney? Why the change of heart? /troll.

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 02:39 PM (Hz1zc)

229 new "study" thread up

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2013 02:39 PM (53z96)

230 210 197 There are more expensive shotguns.There are more refined and fancy shotguns.
But none are better than a Remington 870.

+1

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 06:30 PM (Hz1zc)

+2.
The possible exception to the rule might be my L.C. Smith.
Single shot, though. It's how you learn not to miss.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at January 04, 2013 02:40 PM (Qxe/p)

231 "228 Y'all seemed very supportive of gun-grabber Romney? Why the change of heart? /troll. Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 06:39 PM (Hz1zc) " Because Mitt Romney spent his time beating up homos and giving people cancer. That's why.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 04, 2013 02:40 PM (mb+Yr)

232 Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 06:39 PM (Hz1zc)

You're still here Dunce?

Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2013 02:40 PM (KAAnO)

233 I know responsible Concealed Kerry folks and avid hunters who try to tell me no one needs a 30 round clip. Posted by: ConcealedKerry Forgit Mitt at January 04, 2013 06:37 PM (APrEV) Nobody needs to borrow one and a half trillion a year to pay for massive increases of the bureaucracy and corrupt patronage. Maybe we should ban that.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 04, 2013 02:42 PM (bxiXv)

234 I get a special joy, when my gun cases come with a sticker that says Not Legal in California.

Posted by: BoGart at January 04, 2013 02:42 PM (Ugngr)

235 Gee gosh, I can't remember how many 'those' republicans introduced back in January 2009.

Can you?

HAH! It's a NO BRAINER! In the dhimmi led house ABSOLUTELY NO BILLS WERE ALLOWED FROM ANYBODY WITH AN (R) AFTER THEIR NAME.

Chew on that barry boy

Posted by: Blacksmith8 at January 04, 2013 02:44 PM (Yzu6e)

236 I don't know why Republicans don't follow suit and submit their own gun control laws, as in "less" gun control, "commonsense" gun control and ."responsible" gun control.

For instance, why not amend the Sandy bills requiring shall issue to all states and municipalities tied to government grants and other largesse they receive? Just about all the major states which have a stake in the Hurricane Sandy relief appear to be only May Issue. Make relief dependent on state law being Shall Issue, which is sensible preparation as a precaution in emergency planning for such catastrophes as Hurricanes and their aftermath. Are Democrats support ensuring the safety of the public during catastrophes, or not?

Maybe some portion of the Sandy funding should be dedicated to municipality funding education programs in firearm education, training and responsible possession and use in, um, cities. Are the Dems against education for those hardest hit by disasters, the urban poor and people of color?

IOW, start stealing their catch phrases, make them vote against their cherished expansion of government, and make them out to be the ones always saying no and holding up legislation or the ones who won't 'do something!'

Posted by: Dusty at January 04, 2013 02:50 PM (KR2Ca)

237 But none are better than a Remington 870.

+1

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 06:30 PM (Hz1zc)

Winchester model 12, holds seven shots and fires as fast as you can pump, hold trigger down and pump as fast as you can.

Posted by: ConcealedKerry Forgit Mitt at January 04, 2013 02:50 PM (APrEV)

238 Pass whatever laws you like. You're not getting mine.

Posted by: Warden at January 04, 2013 02:52 PM (HzhBE)

239

IÂ’d like to know why we canÂ’t get a clear answer to the simple question of whether the Bushmaster was in the trunk of the car or was used in the shootings? Seems to me that this is a salient question, particularly if the answer is that it was in the trunk. If it was in the trunk then it is ludicrous to even be discussing an assault rifle ban.

A good side issue here is that with the media politicizing everything, getting answers to basic questions like the one above are next to impossible. And if thatÂ’s the case then what the hell is the point of discussing anything whatsoever. Just implement tyranny and be done with it.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 04, 2013 02:54 PM (BJVEF)

240 If these laws pass what are we supposed to use when trumpkas knee crackers come with their ball bats?
Oh wait, I think the compound bow, the cross bow, the dog the meaner cat and the even meaner Mrs ConcealedKerry would work on those beer swillin fat asses whose knees just need a little encouragement to give out

Posted by: ConcealedKerry Forgit Mitt at January 04, 2013 02:55 PM (APrEV)

241 "Winchester model 12, holds seven shots and fires as fast as you can pump, hold trigger down and pump as fast as you can. " I don't own that gun. You may be right. Although, the 870 is the best all-around gun made. The NRA will tell you an AR is great for self defense, but they lie. A pump twelve gauge is as secure as it gets. Plus, it kills birds!

Posted by: Jordan at January 04, 2013 02:56 PM (Hz1zc)

242 A good side issue here is that with the media politicizing everything, getting answers to basic questions like the one above are next to impossible. Posted by: LGoPs at January 04, 2013 06:54 PM (BJVEF) One of the things a monolothic, ideologically inbred media industry does to society is create uncertainty and distrust and conflict between people who get their news from them and people who actually try to find out what happened. Most people also don't have a source of information they can trust as they don't know how to research and they were taught intellectual helplessness in school. Apathy is no accident.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 04, 2013 02:59 PM (bxiXv)

243 As usual, these boneheads are screwing up. I have never been particularly interested in the AR15 platform (I am a .308 fan, myself), but the idea of these idiot gun-banners trying to make it impossible for me to get one in the near future has made me go out and spend money on magazines, 80% lower receivers (yes, multiples), as well as stockpiling various useful parts for possible builds in the future. Also, there is a place nearby here where you can take your 80% lower receiver, give them some cash, push a button on their CNC machine and 8 minutes later, you have a complete and untraceable lower receiver. Unintended consequences, how do they work, motherfuckers? David

Posted by: David (NOT Dave!), infamous sockpuppet at January 04, 2013 03:00 PM (cx6S0)

244 Oh, and I would never DREAM of trying to convert some of the nice flat pieces of tool steel that I have in my garage to lightning links, because that would be against the law.

Posted by: David (NOT Dave!), infamous sockpuppet at January 04, 2013 03:01 PM (cx6S0)

245 243 As usual, these boneheads are screwing up. I have never been particularly interested in the AR15 platform (I am a .308 fan, myself), Posted by: David (NOT Dave!), infamous sockpuppet at January 04, 2013 07:00 PM (cx6S0) The .308 version was the original. The AR-15 is a scaled-down version. The AR-10 was first. Just FYI.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 04, 2013 03:12 PM (bxiXv)

246 remember that the police have a less than 30% hit to shot ratio, half that when the subject is shooting back. trained shooters, trained in high stress situations, with back up and contingencies = less the 30% vs unarmed single target. citizen awakened in the middle of the night in a dark house with multiple armed assailants worried about their family and their own safety. thats the answer to why do you need more than a 10 round magazine.

Posted by: evil libertarian at January 04, 2013 03:16 PM (Xcb5k)

247 Oh, I know about the AR-10, and that is another possible 80% purchase, once I get the AR-15 for my vanilla AR-15, the AR-15 pistol and the Scary Black Rifle AR-15. However, I already have an M1A, so that is less of a consideration for me at the moment. I am just not really a fan of the direct blowback of the ARs (you and I went around and around about that in an overnight thread about 3 months ago). Maybe I will see what a good piston system will cost for these buildups. Hmmmmm.

Posted by: David (NOT Dave!), infamous sockpuppet at January 04, 2013 03:22 PM (cx6S0)

248 I'm most worried about the bill ending the 'gun show loophole'. It shows that the government is illegally keeping the records of who buys what and they want the system perfected. Otherwise, why would private sales bother them so much?

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at January 04, 2013 03:26 PM (MNWe/)

249

Posted by: LGoPs at January 04, 2013 06:54 PM (BJVEF)

I think the shooter used his rifle to fire through the window of the classroom, then dropped it in the trunk and climbed in to finish himself off with a pistol. There are so many conflicting stories, it's hard to know.

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at January 04, 2013 03:30 PM (MNWe/)

250

@195: "Pistol grip shotguns with no stock? Those are illegal here in California."

Someone should let most of the gun stores know - the chains like Turner's do a brisk business in pistol grip shotguns with no stocks.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at January 04, 2013 04:24 PM (FsqHK)

251 Those looking at shotguns should consider the Browning BPS. Similar to the Ithaca 37, it loads and ejects from the bottom and has a top mounted safety, great for righties and southpaws alike.

Posted by: Bill at January 04, 2013 04:56 PM (xFYVW)

252 Friend of mine bought a Sig 9MM pistol at Academy yesterday. He called me last night and asked if I knew where he could get some ammo since Academy had none. I found 900 rounds at Academy this morning. Still on the pallet. Weird.

Posted by: EROWMER at January 04, 2013 05:24 PM (kxlCQ)

253 I read an interesting book by Michener about Hungary during the Soviet years. He described the difficult decision parents had to make, about when you let the kids in on the fact that the Government is actually the Enemy. If you tell them too young, they will innocently blab to their "friends" and "teachers", and you end up in prison or worse. But you don't want to wait so long that they turn you in when you finally clue them in. Tough call.

And here I thought we *won* the ColdWar.

Posted by: Jerome at January 04, 2013 05:31 PM (eQa5p)

254 ...Unintended consequences, how do they work, motherfuckers?

David

Posted by: David (NOT Dave!), infamous sockpuppet at January 04, 2013 07:00 PM (cx6S0)

Maybe this is common knowledge here, maybe not, but you might want to see if you can find the book, Unintended Consequences by John Ross. It's sorta a gun-nut cult book, but well worth the read. Ross weaves a historical novel about the history of our gun laws, and where these laws will take us. It is not a pretty picture, but unfortunately, quite accurate.

I bought my copy at a gun show years ago and I think I spent $30 or so. Today, Amazon has copies for $350 new/$138 used and I've seen them go for as much as $500 new. Yes: Many are panic-buying anything and everything related to guns (Cheaper-than-Dirt is selling AR magazines for $100 a pop. Used.) and some are even panic-buying books about guns.

Posted by: Feed the Hogs at January 04, 2013 05:44 PM (6bQ51)

255 These are all representatives, and since the GOP controls the House,...

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 05, 2013 01:42 PM (A3ftE)

256 You know what would be funny - if tomorrow everyone of these legislators was mugged by someone carrying a butter knife or a combination lock in a white sock. Yeah, that would be kinda funny.

Posted by: MWTexas at January 07, 2013 05:39 AM (N05oL)

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