May 05, 2013
— Gabriel Malor Steven Den Beste sent the following, which I am pleased to publish here for ya'll.
Let's talk about the Third Amendment for a moment. Remember that one? Probably not; in this day and age it's something of a Constitutional joke. "No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law."
Remember now? The Bill of Rights which passed Congress had twelve clauses, and ten of them were almost immediately ratified by the states. Amendment Three was one of those. Why did they bother?
It's because memory of the Revolution was still current. It was only a few years after the Revolution succeeded, remember, and memory of British tyranny was still fresh. The British had done this, and the citizens of the nascent United States wanted to make sure their new government didn't.
The reason the colonies revolted was because the King of England was viewed as having become a tyrant. Having fought a bloody war to become free of his tyranny, the founders wanted to make sure the new government they created did not in turn become tyranny. Trading one tyrant for another wasn't what they had in mind. So the Constitution contains layers of mechanisms to try to prevent tyranny. And the last and best of these is the Second Amendment.
Remember how the shooting revolution began? The Battles of Lexington and Concord. Rebels in the Boston area had been stockpiling weapons, powder, and ammunition near Concord MA, and the British got wind of it and sent an armed column out from Boston to seize the stockpile. Superb espionage by rebel forces detected this, and word spread through the countryside for the militia (remember that word; it's important) which formed up and fought against the British force. The main battle was fought at Lexington MA, which repelled the British and caused them to retreat again back to Boston.
The "militia" was all able bodied men in the area, who were to show up with their own rifles (or muskets). Weapons of that era varied quite a lot, and of course they were muzzle-loaded using black powder. It took a lot of training to use such a weapon effectively (especially rifles, which were much more difficult to load than muskets) and that's why it was desireable that the men have their own weapons. It was assumed they already knew how to use them.
The earliest battles of the revolution were fought by such militia formations. Another was the Battle of Bunker Hill. It was only later that the Revolutionary Army was formed, and began training at Valley Forge.
Having just won their revolution, in which privately owned firearms played such a critical role, and mindful of the potential for their new government to potentially become tyrannical, the purpose of the Second Amendment was to make sure that the people of the United States would have the means to rise in revolt once again, should it become necessary.
That's what it's really about. It's not about hunting weapons; it's not about the "National Guard" (which isn't a militia). It's about everyday law-abiding citizens having the ability to resist a tyrannical government. And with that deterrent in place, we've managed 230 years without our government descending into tyranny (though it's come close).
And that's why Progressives hate it. Deep down, progressives (i.e. socialists) are not populists. Deep down, progressives despise the majority of their fellow citizens, and don't trust them at all. They love America but hate most of the Americans. Progressives are entranced with the possibilities presented by a benevolent dictatorship. They ignore the peril, that it can mutate into a malevolent dictatorship because they believe in their own virtue. They're sure it won't happen if they're in charge. As to Democracy? It's a burden, a barrier; it gives the vote to all the rednecks and knuckle-draggers who have been mislead by the evil capitalists (remember the Doctrine of False Consciousness? Pernicious claptrap, that one, but it has a lot of currency on the left) and will resist the Progressive program even though it's Obviously the right thing to do.
If only Progressives, as an enlightened elite, had the ability to impose their program on the rest of us, eventually we'd come around to their point of view. But that means they need dictatorial power, and Democracy prevents that.
And the last and strongest barrier against the creation of a benevolent dictatorship by the Progressive enlightened elite is that damned Second Amendment, and all those firearms owned by the rednecks and knuckle-draggers.
So let's be clear: Progressives don't fear guns in the hands of criminals, or not very much. It's not about school shootings, either. It's guns in the hands, and homes, of law abiding citizens that Progressives hate. Those are the guns they wish were gone; those are the guns they will try to eliminate if they can. Because those are the guns which stand in the way of them taking over.
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Great argument, Steven!
Now dumb it down to 25 words so that it will reach the Dumb People who vote.
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 08:47 AM (vyPsz)
"[Socialists/Progressives] love America but hate most of the Americans. "
What evidence is there of their love for America? Other than than their own politically motivated and expedient claims?
Posted by: Neucker at May 05, 2013 08:47 AM (u3N3z)
Posted by: eman at May 05, 2013 08:51 AM (cQ4xo)
( I am embarrassed and angry to say that somehow managed to get through twelve years of K-12, two degrees and fifty years without ever hearing about that until a couple of months ago when Obama and Biden and Cuomo decided the Second Amendment is just about hunting.)
Posted by: Neucker at May 05, 2013 08:51 AM (u3N3z)
Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at May 05, 2013 08:51 AM (JHZvw)
I used to believe this, but recent events have shown me that progressives are quite comfortable with what dictatorships inevitably become.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2013 08:52 AM (/WLC3)
Progressives are merely Consequentialists.
Their 'beliefs' are nothing but masks to serve their ends.
Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2013 08:52 AM (z7R8a)
Posted by: eman at May 05, 2013 08:55 AM (cQ4xo)
Never did like the word progressive when describing lefties.
Their mentallity is of a medieval European attiude.
Elites/ruling class vs peasant/serfs
Posted by: YIKES! at May 05, 2013 08:56 AM (mETGQ)
btw, here are some "facts" about the Plan B pill that you all should know
-- Science says Plan B is an after-the-fact birth control measure, not an abortion drug.
--Plan B does not terminate a fetus, rather, it prevents conception.
Do you understand what this means?
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 08:57 AM (+oin+)
Posted by: Vercingetorix at May 05, 2013 08:57 AM (dST8f)
Posted by: torabora at May 05, 2013 08:58 AM (yWZIy)
Period.
Posted by: Berserker at May 05, 2013 08:58 AM (FMbng)
Progressives, and all liberals of today, do NOT love America. They hate America and everything it stands for. They believe America was founded on slavery and that the 3/5th clause of the Constitution enshrined slavery into law. They believe that Christianity has killed more people in the history of the world than any other philosophy and so hate Christians even if they consider themselves to be Christian. It's those Evil Right Wing Christians who are the bad guys. Most liberals have no idea that communism and socialism killed more people in the 20th century alone than the Crusades and Inquisition ever did.
I really wish all you people who consider yourself conservative but have all these liberal friends you like so much would actually talk to them about politics. You will find out just how stupid and full of hate they are.
Posted by: Jaynie59 at May 05, 2013 08:58 AM (4zKCA)
Posted by: eman at May 05, 2013 08:59 AM (cQ4xo)
Posted by: turfmann at May 05, 2013 08:59 AM (GgGgG)
Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at May 05, 2013 08:59 AM (MhA4j)
Plenty of evidence. they love the resources, they love the wealth, they're pretty fond of our ski slopes....
they just hate *us* and they hate *us* because we're not beautiful beings like they are.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 05, 2013 08:59 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: torabora at May 05, 2013 09:00 AM (yWZIy)
I was thinking something like this for the Dumb people:
Government cannot be trusted because goverment is nothing more than highly corruptible men and women with authority and power. And that is why we have the Bill of Rights which we should always preserve.
34 simple words.
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 09:00 AM (1WM2H)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 05, 2013 09:01 AM (yWZIy)
a decided willingness to accept massive casualties....
of course we reelected barry Choom in part because we couldn't bear the thought of unfree ginny pills for Fluckhead and the cessation of Obamafo so there's that
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 05, 2013 09:02 AM (LRFds)
It means get tampons, too?
Maybe, but no.
It means that PLAN B is a Time Traveling drug.
Once it enters the bloodstream, it travels back in time to prevent contraception. There is no termination of an unborn baby because there is no fetus!
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 09:02 AM (vyPsz)
btw, here are some "facts" about the Plan B pill that you all should know
-- Science says Plan B is an after-the-fact birth control measure, not an abortion drug.
--Plan B does not terminate a fetus, rather, it prevents conception.
Do you understand what this means?
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 12:57 PM (+oin+)
Since the JEF said it's OK for a fifteen year to by Plan B over the counter.
Does that mean the age of consent has been lowered to fifteen?
Hopefully these lefties that are OK that their daughter could be dating some fifty year old.
Posted by: YIKES! at May 05, 2013 09:02 AM (mETGQ)
Posted by: eman at May 05, 2013 09:04 AM (cQ4xo)
"Government cannot be trusted because goverment is nothing more than highly corruptible men and women with authority and power. And that is why we have the Bill of Rights which we should always preserve.
...and fuck monkeys."
Still under 40 words.
Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2013 09:04 AM (z7R8a)
>>>it travels back in time to prevent contraception.
You are thinking of 'The Ghost of Social Diseases, Past'.
Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2013 09:06 AM (z7R8a)
Posted by: t-bird at May 05, 2013 09:06 AM (FcR7P)
It means that PLAN B is a Time Traveling drug.
Once it enters the bloodstream, it travels back in time to prevent contraception. There is no termination of an unborn baby because there is no fetus!
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 01:02 PM (vyPsz)
Then we have the mentality of if one Plan B is good then taking two is even better.
Posted by: YIKES! at May 05, 2013 09:06 AM (mETGQ)
Posted by: Socktopus at May 05, 2013 09:06 AM (1FLBb)
I have a dream!
I have a dream that some day the 25th Amendment will be "There shall be no fucking monkeys!"
Posted by: soothsayer luther king jr at May 05, 2013 09:07 AM (LVtr+)
"Hey fucknuts the guy stole the shit he gives you from your neighbor, you anybody's neighbor?"
16 words
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 05, 2013 09:07 AM (LRFds)
It is the most compelling explanation of a constitutional amendment ever put on film. It is nine minutes of film that explains the origin and necessity of the Second Amendment better than any constitutional scholar or historian ever could.
A citizen is brutally victimized by the government -- one son kidnapped, another murdered, his house burned, his property stolen. That free man picks up his own firearms and together with his remaining two younger sons -- who he has trained to use firearms-- puts an end to government tyranny and oppression.
As you watch it remember, in those scenes, the Progressives think Mel is the bad guy.
Posted by: Neucker at May 05, 2013 09:08 AM (u3N3z)
Posted by: Aloha Akhbar @PirateBallerina at May 05, 2013 09:08 AM (/lWM8)
Posted by: Socktopus at May 05, 2013 09:08 AM (1FLBb)
Posted by: eman at May 05, 2013 09:09 AM (cQ4xo)
well do recall he is a pastiche of Francis Marion and Marion had slaves ergo "bad guy"
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 05, 2013 09:09 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 05, 2013 09:10 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: kartoffel at May 05, 2013 09:10 AM (OgNv0)
Those are the talking points for Plan B to quell the fears of the bitter clingers and Catholics who keep hearing about this "abortion pill" for teens.
I didn't make them up; that's what they're saying.
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 09:11 AM (8dspl)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 05, 2013 09:11 AM (X6akg)
"Every Communist must grasp the truth, “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.” "Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party."
– Mao Tse-tung
November 6, 1938
Yes as Mr. Beste put it, they are afraid of something. Deep down in their guts.
These tyrants crooks liars and thieves, lording their ways of corruption, and moral turpitude against us.
It permeates their thoughts, it rumbles in their guts, it haunts their dreams, the vision of a citizenry with a bone in it's teeth, and an AR15 strapped across their chests.
They are afraid of us having arms, because frankly they are afraid of what we could do to them, for what they are doing to us.
They should be afraid.
I hope they are afraid.
Very afraid.
I hope them to have to seek the same protections the Constitution and bill of rights affords us.
It is as the great TL Davis put it so succinctly:
“It is not ours to restore the power of the Constitution. It is ours to show them the wrath of America without the protections the Constitution offers them.”
“Let them restore it to find refuge from us.”
Quite so.
It is the proper thing to do to these crooks liars thieves and tyrants.
And so too, all this is boils down to two things, naked tyranny in our time, and the birth of restoration of Liberty in the hearts of men, everything else, is secondary to this reality.
So yes, by all means, lets not beat around the bush about this. It All about guns. Everything these terrible people do revolves ultimately about guns. It is guns that give these pieces of shit their power. It is guns that they fear. It is guns that they must have, if they are to take over our country in order to rule with an iron fist. It is guns that they must take from the populous in order obtain that absolute power. It is guns they understand like none other are the real power behind anything. It is guns this system of government now lives by. It is guns that they use to enforce everything. It is a monopoly of violence they are creating. And of all the enemies they have, none are the existential threat to their power than that of the arms in the hands of We The People.
It is what that they fear most.
Any thing else is a cheap side show.
Lets WIN!
Posted by: Mt Top Patriot at May 05, 2013 09:12 AM (BTp3s)
Posted by: Tami at May 05, 2013 01:11 PM (X6akg)
Since I doubt that there can be any record keeping due to privacy concerns, no!
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 05, 2013 09:12 AM (Cnqmv)
scientists say that th lead projectile from my gun is not a bullet it is a respiration inhibiting device
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 05, 2013 09:12 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Weirddave at May 05, 2013 09:13 AM (aH+zP)
I guess the Left figures that most people are okay with contraceptives. Today, a lot of mothers put their teen daughters on the pill as soon as they start dating.
So, the solution is simple: call it a contraceptive...after-the-fact. The Dumb People will believe it, and believe it they shall.
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 09:13 AM (DlaLh)
Posted by: eman at May 05, 2013 09:13 AM (cQ4xo)
Posted by: Socktopus at May 05, 2013 09:14 AM (1FLBb)
Posted by: Aloha Akhbar @PirateBallerina at May 05, 2013 09:14 AM (/lWM8)
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 05, 2013 01:12 PM (LRFds)
Side effects include long-term cessation of cardiac activity!
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 05, 2013 09:14 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at May 05, 2013 09:15 AM (p/Sn/)
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 05, 2013 01:12 PM (Cnqmv)
So, a girl could purchase a dozen and just use them at will. (I have no idea how much they cost.) Bombarding her body with hormones willy nilly. What could go wrong.
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 05, 2013 09:16 AM (X6akg)
>>>Is there, or will there be, any limitation on the number of Plan B pills you can buy at any one time?
Yes.
I just got off the phone with Kathy Sebelius and we agree that a person should not be allowd to buy more Plan B Pills than they can fit US Dimes in their own nose.
I can buy 14.
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 05, 2013 09:16 AM (z7R8a)
"in the corn field" denotes being made scare crows not slaves...
too many of us even LIVs and "Moderate/left" won't make good slaves so as you say far better to eradicate the American culture and then have the magic person blink us into the cornfield.
http://youtu.be/dFJ1H1XvT4I
Twilight Zone It's a Good Life
*blink* cornfield
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 05, 2013 09:17 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Tonawanda at May 05, 2013 09:18 AM (GeFHE)
attn Sen Schumer et al: please note that that last phrase "but in a manner to be prescribed by law" was not attached to the Second Amendment.
Posted by: mallfly at May 05, 2013 09:19 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Ian S. at May 05, 2013 09:21 AM (OevbG)
while I agree with your summary and am in agreement that the leftoid fuckers are masters' of obfuscatory dissembling the fact is it is a bunch of geeks trying to finagle and jedi mind trick away reality...
what is the "success rate"?
What happens when a failure to inhibit implantation goes ectopic....
fuck their weasel words show the fucking data
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 05, 2013 09:23 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: t-bird at May 05, 2013 09:23 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: TheTruth at May 05, 2013 09:23 AM (iHeMr)
Steven Den Beste's words ring true, but do they sell?
Nope.
You and I are already sold. The people who need to buy are way too dumb to appreciate this post.
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 09:24 AM (LVtr+)
Posted by: The Providers at May 05, 2013 09:25 AM (MhA4j)
It is *always* topical and always applies.
As grandpa said "If they can give you all you want they may have already taken all you have."
His generation was smart enough to figure it out by '48
I think ours and my son's will take 'til 2098
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 05, 2013 09:25 AM (LRFds)
Iranian cleric Hojatoleslam Kazem Sedighi blamed earthquakes on women who wear revealing dresses.
Posted by: mallfly at May 05, 2013 09:27 AM (bJm7W)
sven, do you really believe people have an appetite for data?
or even the capacity to absorb cold hard data?
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 09:27 AM (+oin+)
Posted by: Aloha Akhbar @PirateBallerina at May 05, 2013 09:27 AM (/lWM8)
Progs DO love America. Not the one you and I live in, the one in their head where only the elite class has cars and electricity and grocery stores and everyone else works in Chinese style conditions.
that is, from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
Posted by: mallfly at May 05, 2013 09:29 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: t-bird at May 05, 2013 09:29 AM (FcR7P)
do you really think *we* are that exceptional?
I don't that people have gotten lazy and don't look does not mean they can't look.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 05, 2013 09:29 AM (LRFds)
We tried to defeat Obama with a 59-point economic plan.
Obama countered with a simple and elegant retort: My opponent causes cancer.
Obama won.
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 09:30 AM (yhYn1)
Look you want to know how I knew instantly that "teabaggers" weren't responsible for Boston?
The media was alive to report it.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 05, 2013 09:31 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: DaS at May 05, 2013 09:32 AM (zvHEQ)
Posted by: The Jackhole on Ventura Highway at May 05, 2013 09:34 AM (/7Xis)
Wonder if Reagan's simple summation is too brilliant to be included in the 25-word contest:
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take it all away."
How about this: "Of course the government will take good care of you. Just like it did the American Indians."
Posted by: Sergei Kirov at May 05, 2013 09:34 AM (IDSI7)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 05, 2013 09:35 AM (ZPrif)
With Texas actively inviting manufacturers here, I hope our legislature passes even more firearm-friendly legislation and tort protection for citizens. I like setting examples and defang the lawyer-types too. Make states safe havens to protect your arms but also shield you in cases where you use them.
Posted by: Yip at May 05, 2013 09:35 AM (/jHWN)
Yeah it's not like Barry Choom's protege Billy Ayers ever said "bury 25 million capitalists this'll be a better place..."
I'll take strange but true for 25 million Alex
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 05, 2013 09:35 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: t-bird at May 05, 2013 09:36 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: BignJames at May 05, 2013 09:36 AM (H9MGI)
Posted by: eman at May 05, 2013 09:36 AM (cQ4xo)
by the end of the week, Plan B will be sold* as a female condom in pill form
*figuratively, not literally, for those of you in Rio Linda
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 09:37 AM (LVtr+)
Socialists ride the backs of the poor while gorging themselves on whatever they can plunder from others. If only we could disarm the citizens, think of the feasts they could steal while riding in their sedan chairs shouldered by the wretches they claim to help!
Still too verbose.
Kneel!
Posted by: pep at May 05, 2013 09:38 AM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: SKOAL brand Plan 'B' - Long-Cut at May 05, 2013 09:40 AM (z7R8a)
Once upon a long time ago, I took an oath--the same one many of you here took. It doesn't expire.
Something for you who hold true to that oath to remember--it doesn't always take weapons to fulfill.
Only as a last resort.
Can't know the final outcome here, I can only pray it falls short of armed rebellion.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 05, 2013 09:40 AM (SAMxH)
Posted by: occam at May 05, 2013 09:40 AM (Vns6X)
Sunday: preaching to the choir.
Posted by: 13times at May 05, 2013 09:40 AM (fGPLK)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 05, 2013 09:41 AM (ZPrif)
Ah.....the first victim of the great purge.
[although he was a cocksucking piece-of-shit murderer in his own right]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2013 09:41 AM (/WLC3)
Their intentions are good but misguided.
Yes and no. To the average brain-dead liberal (I always think of a soccer mom with a "Coexist" or "Department of Peace" bumper sticker), yes. But to the hard-core Reds (I always think of Soros) who actually drive the bus, no. They know perfectly well where they want to go, and each of their "issues" is but a vehicle for agitation to push us towards Communism.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 05, 2013 09:42 AM (IDSI7)
Posted by: soothsayer
How about 11 and a pi'chur?
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2013 09:42 AM (Yr6sH)
[although he was a cocksucking piece-of-shit murderer in his own right]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2013 01:41 PM (/WLC3
He was indeed. So was Trotsky, come to that. But it just goes to show today's Reds that they may be the victims of the tyrannical government they want to impose on us, and that they think they'll be running.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 05, 2013 09:44 AM (IDSI7)
Posted by: The Dept. of Acuracy at May 05, 2013 09:44 AM (MhA4j)
This current generation of young geniuses today, how many of them perceive China the way we did -- as a cruel totalitarian regime ruling over a billion serfs?
The answer is none because no one talks about China anymore in that way.
Because of that, the chances that someday we will become more like China is more likely due to the simple fact that we no longer fear a Chinese-style government.
Guns, government 'planned parenthood', health care, it's all tied in together.
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 09:45 AM (ZgBZU)
Posted by: The Dept. of Acuracy at May 05, 2013 09:45 AM (MhA4j)
They ignore the peril, that it can mutate into a malevolent dictatorship because they believe in their own virtue. They're sure it won't happen if they're in charge. As to Democracy? It's a burden, a barrier; ............
excellent
Posted by: willow at May 05, 2013 09:46 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: eman at May 05, 2013 09:47 AM (cQ4xo)
That's JEA.
A longtime cocksucker who is so smart it always thinks it finds the hypocrisy in all AoS posts.
JEA, you are simple-minded fool. My poop spells out better arguments in the toilet than you do.
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 09:48 AM (yhYn1)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 05, 2013 09:50 AM (wR+pz)
The 2nd Amendment was also a warning: if it is attacked (or even diminished), then it's time to start seriously examining just how much power your government has.
Only despots seek to destroy the roots of a culture (through it's own legal system) in order to take power.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 05, 2013 09:50 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp Reporting from the Doghouse. at May 05, 2013 09:51 AM (bb5+k)
They ignore the peril, that it can mutate into a malevolent
dictatorship because they believe in their own virtue. They're sure it
won't happen if they're in charge. As to Democracy? It's a burden, a
barrier; ............
if They are in charge..
It was very clear during Bush they recognised a possible propensity of Govt becoming unwieldy and threatening (dhs -patriot act)
however the minute they were in control that massive mammoth growth neither disturbs them or causes stress, they assist in the mammoth never understanding it could be Used against them..
That those functions-regulations stripping of citizens rights ..forgetting
until a repub is in office.
Posted by: willow at May 05, 2013 09:51 AM (nqBYe)
A more accurate description of what state and federal Coalition governments do after Labor governments is that conservatives find the way to pay for the promises of their political opponents. In the 70 years of the Liberal Party there's not too many spending programs of Labor governments that Liberals have undone once they got into power.
http://ipa.org.au/news/2890/burn-the-boats-and-ditch-the-life-raft
Posted by: 13times at May 05, 2013 09:52 AM (fGPLK)
Posted by: eman at May 05, 2013 09:53 AM (cQ4xo)
"under progressive rule* the government will decide what you can have"
*socialist, progressive, liberal democrat... like saying shit, turds, feces...
Posted by: mallfly at May 05, 2013 09:53 AM (bJm7W)
what are the conditions of these firearms, Billy Bob?
S&W Model 29 with Wood Grips 44 mag nickel $1000
Can't you get this new for a grand?
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 09:53 AM (052zE)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 05, 2013 09:53 AM (U2UQk)
Lexington was a skirmish where "the shot heard round the world" was fired ( an organized militia stood up to and fired back at the British army ), but they were chased off Lexington Green. It was on a hill outside Concord where the British were defeated, and forced to march back to their barracks.
Posted by: Jerry Jack in Jacksonville, maintaining a simulacrum of normality at May 05, 2013 09:53 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: willow at May 05, 2013 09:54 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 05, 2013 09:54 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: occam
And the contrarian idiot self-identifies again.
First, if you had bothered to read the first fucking sentence you would have noted that the author is Steven Den Beste.
Second, your comment is worthy of a junior high drop-out. English motherfucker, do you speak it? Who is this 'they' you insist on obscuring?
Third, the colonial militia existed before and after the Constitution was written and had nothing to do with the armed services that were formalized after the Convention.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2013 09:55 AM (Yr6sH)
That Remington 1100 seems pricey. It's a great shotgun, but Remington made millions of them.
Colt Woodsman is a great and accurate pistol, but that price depends on condition. If it has seen some wear, then it is overpriced.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2013 09:55 AM (/WLC3)
baby food. dog food. lead in paint , etc.
Posted by: willow at May 05, 2013 09:56 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: eman at May 05, 2013 09:56 AM (cQ4xo)
Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2013 09:57 AM (1MFEL)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 05, 2013 09:57 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: eman at May 05, 2013 01:56 PM (cQ4xo)
uh hmm i had thought of this and thought.
don't worry be happy. sigh
Posted by: willow at May 05, 2013 09:58 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: WalrusRex at May 05, 2013 09:58 AM (VlXYw)
Posted by: eman at May 05, 2013 09:58 AM (cQ4xo)
JEA is so stupid.
A-hole doesn't even know why the Bill of Rights was added to the Constitution. It was a concession by the Federalists (pro-big central govt) to the anti-Federalists.
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 09:58 AM (8dspl)
There is a lesson there about a slippery slope.
Posted by: pat at May 05, 2013 09:58 AM (LLHgu)
#69 is right.
..."But that means they need dictatorial power, and Democracy prevents that."...
Not quite. History is full of tragic examples of "Democracy" which ended as one man, one vote, one time.
Democracy is necessary, but not adequate, to protect the freedoms of the minority (you) from the tyranny of the majority (everyone else). That's why the founders crafted the United States as a constitutional Republic, with as many built in road blocks to unchecked central power as they could muster.
The fact that even today in our 'enlightened' times so many want to run away from the founders' historically tremendous achievement rather than celebrate and reinforce it only demonstrates how sadly necessary it is for holding the darker impulses of human nature and selfishness at bay.
Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at May 05, 2013 09:59 AM (PtuJp)
Posted by: Yip at May 05, 2013 09:59 AM (/jHWN)
15 year old
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 05, 2013 09:59 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Walker 2016 at May 05, 2013 10:00 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Weirddave at May 05, 2013 10:00 AM (aH+zP)
Posted by: WalrusRex at May 05, 2013 10:00 AM (VlXYw)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 05, 2013 10:01 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Walker 2016 at May 05, 2013 10:01 AM (XIxXP)
Random thought: If you believe that JFK assassination was a conspiracy but that the marathon bomber was a lone wolf, you just might be a liberal.
A better way of saying it is like this: "If you believe Bush knew everything and Obama knows nothing..." (well, I'd go along with the second half of that)
Posted by: mallfly at May 05, 2013 10:02 AM (bJm7W)
as in Prescott Bush, father of Bush I and grandfather of W, also Senator from Conn
Posted by: Jerry Jack in Jacksonville, maintaining a simulacrum of normality at May 05, 2013 10:02 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: WalrusRex at May 05, 2013 02:00 PM (VlXYw)
A: At Walter Reed under cover names!
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 05, 2013 10:02 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: GuyfromNH at May 05, 2013 10:03 AM (YOe1f)
Posted by: mallfly at May 05, 2013 10:03 AM (bJm7W)
From the local paper, real life : HOBO WITH A SHOTGUN
"Ventura police were searching for a homeless man that allegedly threatened and attacked a family member with a shotgun Friday, officials said. "
Posted by: The Jackhole on Ventura Highway at May 05, 2013 10:04 AM (/7Xis)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Walker 2016 at May 05, 2013 10:04 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: pat at May 05, 2013 01:58 PM (LLHgu)
Hawaii wasn't a state until 1960, so there were no Senators or Congressmen to fight for their rights. Also, the Pearl Harbor Thing made people nervous in the service
Posted by: Jerry Jack in Jacksonville, maintaining a simulacrum of normality at May 05, 2013 10:04 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Walker 2016 at May 05, 2013 10:07 AM (XIxXP)
"They love America but hate most of the Americans."
Let's not get too caught up on this phrase, which I assume is meant more to be pithy than anything else. It's worth exploring what it means when a statist says they "love America", but that's not what this piece is about.
That being said, I enjoy finding constructive criticisms and doing critical analysis of such writing, and my impression was that it was as accurate, informative, effective, understandable, readable, and interesting as I have ever seen. It's an important and timely topic, as anyone who read it should readily see. In short the piece is very impressive - downright awesome.
Posted by: Optimizer at May 05, 2013 10:07 AM (Mxt9o)
Posted by: GuyfromNH at May 05, 2013 02:03 PM (YOe1f)
peruse # 127
Posted by: Jerry Jack in Jacksonville, maintaining a simulacrum of normality at May 05, 2013 10:07 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: eman at May 05, 2013 10:07 AM (cQ4xo)
Posted by: BignJames at May 05, 2013 10:09 AM (H9MGI)
Posted by: Princess Angelina Contessa Louisa Francesca...III at May 05, 2013 10:11 AM (ZZTmn)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 05, 2013 01:54 PM (wR+pz)
Careful....sentiments like that will get you banned.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2013 10:11 AM (/WLC3)
How about this for the LIVs?
"The government is that bitch (or fucker) that stole all your shit and ratted you out to the Man."
This is good. How about this: "The government's gonna take all your shit and make you work."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 05, 2013 10:13 AM (IDSI7)
Posted by: Yip at May 05, 2013 10:15 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Socktopus at May 05, 2013 10:16 AM (1FLBb)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Walker 2016 at May 05, 2013 10:16 AM (XIxXP)
Or this: "Vote for Republicans, they'll give you electrolytes!"
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 05, 2013 10:16 AM (IDSI7)
Lexington was the first armed confrontation of the Revolutionary War, but was not a major battle. It was a show of resistance by the American colonists, who were ordered to “disperse, ye rebels”, and had begun to do so when a shot rang out, from which side no one knows. When the skirmish was over eight Americans were dead, and no British. Continuing on to Concord, the British were confronted by another American force at the “rude bridge that arched the flood”. Here another four Americans and two British soldiers were killed, and the British turned for Boston. But Boston was sixteen miles away, and armed Americans were pouring in from the surrounding countryside, lining the road and training musket fire from behind trees and rock walls. By the time the British were met by a relief column near the entry to Boston, sixty-seven British and forty-nine Americans had been killed, and the flame of the Revolution was inextinguishable.
Posted by: paul at May 05, 2013 10:25 AM (6qiRq)
Posted by: U.W.P. at May 05, 2013 10:30 AM (FmFB3)
"in the corn field" denotes being made scare crows not slaves...
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 05, 2013 01:17 PM (LRFds)
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Thanks for clarifying, I like it. I'm a young guy, still picking up a lot of references and phrases.
Posted by: Socktopus at May 05, 2013 02:16 PM (1FLBb)
You could go in the corn field this way :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C34g5mz1ZQ
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 05, 2013 10:34 AM (BqEo0)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at May 05, 2013 10:35 AM (CKNcG)
Posted by: rickl at May 05, 2013 10:36 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at May 05, 2013 10:38 AM (vHxiM)
Posted by: U.W.P. at May 05, 2013 10:38 AM (FmFB3)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 05, 2013 10:38 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2013 10:42 AM (Wl/Ht)
Anyone see This Week this morning? Mary Matalin was talking about how she just joined the NRA as a lifetime member and she bought her first handgun, but she said she was having trouble finding ammo for it.
Cokie Roberts said "Good. I hope you can never find any"
Posted by: Albie Damned at May 05, 2013 10:43 AM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 05, 2013 02:13 PM (IDSI7)
Good as far as it goes, but it will be heard like this
"The Republican government's gonna take all your shit and make you work UNLESS you vote straight Dem!"
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 05, 2013 10:48 AM (Cnqmv)
Esp. as the Brits. fielded the most powerful, professional army in the world @that time.Posted by: BignJames at May 05, 2013 10:49 AM (H9MGI)
Cokie Roberts said "Good. I hope you can never find any"
Bitch said the 22nd Amendment was a mistake too. I despise the media.
Posted by: Infidel at May 05, 2013 10:49 AM (gqEUi)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 05, 2013 10:52 AM (bb5+k)
Cokie Roberts said "Good. I hope you can never find any"
And I hope you never find any more coke, "Cokie."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 05, 2013 10:52 AM (IDSI7)
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 05, 2013 02:48 PM (Cnqmv)
Yeah, you're right. I hadn't thought of it that way. Gotta work on it.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 05, 2013 10:53 AM (IDSI7)
Posted by: Cannot see the future at May 05, 2013 10:54 AM (nEDGE)
Lest you forget, IRS gets a lot of the bullets that Big Sis Nutpolitano is buying to save money for we taxpayers, and there's a reason for that.
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 05, 2013 10:57 AM (Cnqmv)
"142 ... Democracy is necessary, but not adequate, to protect the freedoms of the minority (you)from the tyranny of the majority (everyone else). That's why the founders crafted the United States as a constitutional Republic, with as many built in road blocks to unchecked central power as they could muster.
The fact that even today in our 'enlightened' times so many want to run away from the founders' historically tremendous achievement rather than celebrate and reinforce it only demonstrates how sadly necessary it is for holding the darker impulses of human nature and selfishness at bay."
You know, I had noticed that "democracy" oversimplification, but I liked the piece so much I forgot about that by the time I got to the end. "Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner." is supposedly a Ben Franklin quote, but I don't know if it's one of those deals that's attributed to him that he really didn't say.
My niece is just graduating from James Madison U, and I have to doubt if even THAT university would celebrate that James Madison is perhaps the "Isaac Newton" of political science. Yeah, I know that some say his role as "father of the Constitution" is overstated, and I really don't know if it's true. But I've read some of his stuff, and it's astounding how much this guy understood "the human condition" - it's all 100% relevant today, and he really spells it out. He even writes about the evils of communism, although he doesn't put it that way, and doesn't use the term (which hadn't really been formalized yet).
Not taking anything away from Washington, Franklin, Jefferson, or any of the other greats, but finding a workable way and stable for a country to govern itself without a King or dictator represents a whole new era in the history of humankind - one where people had a chance to live with freedom and prosperity. Freedom works!
Posted by: Optimizer at May 05, 2013 10:57 AM (Mxt9o)
Every Leftist imagines him or herself as Monarch.
Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2013 10:58 AM (oNJRf)
Posted by: Princess Angelina Contessa Louisa Francesca...III at May 05, 2013 10:59 AM (ZZTmn)
Posted by: Infidel at May 05, 2013 11:03 AM (gqEUi)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at May 05, 2013 11:04 AM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: Damiano at May 05, 2013 11:08 AM (BzT5x)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 05, 2013 11:09 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Princess Angelina Contessa Louisa Francesca...III at May 05, 2013 11:11 AM (ZZTmn)
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Lexington? What's Lexington? I haven't been there unless it's in Kentucky. I have been to Ohio St where the military industrial complex mowed down peaceful students 43 years ago.Posted by: Liberal Arts Major at May 05, 2013 11:12 AM (jucos)
Posted by: BignJames at May 05, 2013 11:17 AM (H9MGI)
Posted by: The Political Hat \m/ at May 05, 2013 11:18 AM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at May 05, 2013 11:20 AM (HVff2)
I was a little boy when that happened and to this day I can't get a straight answer. Did the hippies deserve the bullits or not? Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Walker 2016 at May 05, 2013 11:21 AM (XIxXP)
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Same thing man....... same thing. We were mostly peaceful rioters poised to change the world man.Posted by: Liberal Arts Major at May 05, 2013 11:23 AM (jucos)
Posted by: Princess Angelina Contessa Louisa Francesca...III at May 05, 2013 02:11 PM (ZZTmn)
Dot! Haven't seen you comment in ages.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at May 05, 2013 11:23 AM (lVb7s)
Posted by: Infidel at May 05, 2013 11:24 AM (gqEUi)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 05, 2013 11:25 AM (bb5+k)
You missed the nic "Liberal Arts Major"Posted by: BignJames at May 05, 2013 11:25 AM (H9MGI)
Posted by: Princess Angelina Contessa Louisa Francesca...III at May 05, 2013 11:26 AM (ZZTmn)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Walker 2016 at May 05, 2013 11:26 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Abe Vigoda at May 05, 2013 11:26 AM (jucos)
I have an explanation of how the statists "love" America that seems pretty simple, direct, and accurate.
The statists "love" America the same way Hillary Clinton "loves" rich people, which is the same way Willie Sutton "loved" banks.
Posted by: Optimizer at May 05, 2013 11:27 AM (Mxt9o)
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 01:02 PM (vyPsz)
We are aware that conception actually tends to occur 24-72 hours after sex right? It's possible to occur up to 5 days out, but that's pushing the limits of sperm survivability.
You have to remember that sperm aren't actually all that fast, and it's a long way up the uterus to the fallopian tube where the vast majority of conception occurs.
I'm very much against Plan B as an OTC drug at any age (even more so at the age of minority, which beyond the pale stupid.) But trying to push it as an abortifacent does two things 1) It really interprets the scientific evidence in a way that isn't suggestive of what it actually says. 2) It shoots us in the foot on about 100 other things, it desensitizes people to abortion arguments overall (in a similar way that we're all tired of hearing "that's racist!") and two it creates a nasty contradiction on how to handle rape victims that appear at the hospital. And the "Rape victims!ELEVENTY!" argument is a political winner whether you want to admit it or not, so shooting ourselves in the foot there is a monumentally bad idea (especially in light of point 1.)
Posted by: tsrblke at May 05, 2013 11:27 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: U.W.P. at May 05, 2013 02:30 PM (FmFB3)
I've been going through The Federalist Papers. It became clear *very* quickly why they aren't taught in school anymore. Their answer to *everything* (given that they found it nearly laughable that American citizens would let themselves be bullied by their government) was "You're armed, right?"
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at May 05, 2013 11:28 AM (lVb7s)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 05, 2013 11:28 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Liberal Arts Major at May 05, 2013 11:30 AM (jucos)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 05, 2013 11:30 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 05, 2013 11:32 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2013 11:33 AM (eXTRT)
My rule of thumb: " When in doubt, better to err on the side of shooting hippies."
Cut, jib, newsletter.
Posted by: Infidel at May 05, 2013 11:33 AM (gqEUi)
Posted by: Liberal Arts Major at May 05, 2013 11:33 AM (jucos)
Posted by: Princess Angelina Contessa Louisa Francesca...III at May 05, 2013 11:33 AM (ZZTmn)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 05, 2013 11:34 AM (bb5+k)
from Planned Abortionhood:
Morning-After Pill (Emergency Contraception) at a Glance
Birth control you can use to prevent pregnancy up to five days (120 hours) after unprotected sex
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 11:34 AM (Fely/)
Posted by: Freak Out! at May 05, 2013 11:35 AM (jmVS/)
Okay, here's the $64,000 question:
If the girl is already pregnant within those 120 hours, is Plan B no longer effective?
If the answer is No, it is, arguably, a contraceptive.
If the answer is...
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 11:37 AM (1WM2H)
Posted by: Abe Vigoda at May 05, 2013 11:37 AM (jucos)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at May 05, 2013 11:37 AM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 05, 2013 11:39 AM (piMMO)
No they didnt deserve it but did deserve fire hoses and tear gas.
Didn't they get wooden shampoos too? Maybe I mixing that up with some of the other shit that went on during that time. I'll have to go look that up.
Posted by: Infidel at May 05, 2013 11:39 AM (gqEUi)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2013 11:40 AM (eXTRT)
Posted by: Freak Out! at May 05, 2013 11:41 AM (jmVS/)
Posted by: Liberal Arts Major at May 05, 2013 11:42 AM (jucos)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 05, 2013 11:42 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 05, 2013 11:43 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2013 11:44 AM (eXTRT)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 05, 2013 11:46 AM (jucos)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at May 05, 2013 11:48 AM (Md8Uo)
The question he should be asking himself is, does the law love him?
The law is bulking up, getting bigger and stronger, and at its current size could ass rape den Beste no problem.
So no, the law doesn't love den Beste. The law wants to ass rape him and everyone else including "Law abiding citizens".
Posted by: badanov at May 05, 2013 11:52 AM (sxf7Z)
Posted by: rickl at May 05, 2013 11:52 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at May 05, 2013 11:52 AM (Md8Uo)
Diogenes Lamp, well growing up in a house that was very well stuffed in back issues of Readers Digest. Decades of back issues that came from library sales. So yes had a childhood reading about Kent State, Weather Underground, union thuggery, evils of Communism, and so on. Odd bits and pieces stuck along with a knowledge that Communism is truly evil.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2013 11:53 AM (eXTRT)
Posted by: Baldy at May 05, 2013 11:54 AM (tyDFN)
Posted by: Liberal Arts Major at May 05, 2013 11:56 AM (jucos)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at May 05, 2013 11:57 AM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2013 11:57 AM (eXTRT)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 05, 2013 11:59 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Designated Commenter at May 05, 2013 12:01 PM (5J54Q)
The 12th Annual 'No Pants' subway ride in NYC.
If they really wanted to make a statement, they would do it in January.
Posted by: Infidel at May 05, 2013 12:02 PM (gqEUi)
"They ["Progressive" statists] love America but hate most of the Americans . . . ."
Not sure how much they actually "love" America. They certainly don't love the ideals on which it was founded. "Liberal"* love for America is sort of like the "love" some trailer-trash wife-beater (usually wearing a wife-beater undershirt) on COPS has for his abused spouse: "I love her, but sometimes she gets out of line and I have to smack her around some. "
Or if you've ever known a woman (could be a man, but in my experience usually it's a woman) who has a boyfriend or fiance she seems to have little in common with, but whom she loves--and proceeds to make him (and herself) miserable by constantly nagging and browbeating him to change and become more like the guy she really should be with. "Liberals" are like the woman, and the rest of us in the USA are the miserable guy.
*i.e., tax-happy coercion-addicted State-fellators.
Posted by: Bilwick at May 05, 2013 12:03 PM (KZcFn)
Infidel, in January they would need all the EMT responders to pry people with frozen assets stuck to seats.
Freak Out! Been on those subways, I would not want to be that unprotected near surfaces that can keep alive nasty things.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2013 12:04 PM (eXTRT)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at May 05, 2013 12:04 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: Freak Out! at May 05, 2013 12:04 PM (jmVS/)
Posted by: Baldy at May 05, 2013 12:06 PM (tyDFN)
Posted by: Infidel at May 05, 2013 12:06 PM (gqEUi)
Posted by: Realist at May 05, 2013 12:09 PM (LmD/o)
searching speedbumps home again for bomb making stuff. Joker says they made the bombs there.
funeral home director still can't find a grave in MA, NY, NJ, or CT. heh
Posted by: thunderb at May 05, 2013 12:10 PM (nH8jP)
Posted by: thunderb at May 05, 2013 12:11 PM (nH8jP)
note: we were not trained on firing into a crowd. Just beatin' and stuff with shields and batons. Good times.. good times
Posted by: Yip at May 05, 2013 12:11 PM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 05, 2013 12:12 PM (3N0Zq)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 05, 2013 12:13 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: thunderb at May 05, 2013 04:11 PM (nH8jP)
With his autopsie'd guts in pressure cookers?
Posted by: KG at May 05, 2013 12:14 PM (IPz9m)
Posted by: BignJames at May 05, 2013 12:14 PM (H9MGI)
All their subsequent "tyranny" was to enforce this obvious right to taxation.
Hahahahaha!
Well done. Best sockpuppet of a shithead pseudo academic we've seen in a long time.
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 12:14 PM (LVtr+)
Posted by: TJefferson at May 05, 2013 12:16 PM (jmVS/)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 05, 2013 12:16 PM (U2UQk)
Instead, use "it's so because" or repeat the verb in the question; "They bothered because".
Why? Show your work...
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 05, 2013 12:17 PM (FvyJS)
If they're old enough to kill shouldn't they be able to vote and buy beer? Voting highschoolers is a liberal wet dream.
I'm having the strangest feeling of déjà vu all over again.
Posted by: Xavier at May 05, 2013 12:17 PM (z7c10)
Posted by: The Dept. of Acuracy at May 05, 2013 12:18 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Madamex at May 05, 2013 12:18 PM (1zsKV)
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Posted by: rickl at May 05, 2013 12:20 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 05, 2013 12:20 PM (3N0Zq)
I've heard it differently. Arnold was displeased that he didn't get the credit for the Battle of Saratoga. I believe it was Granny Gates who took the credit, while Arnold was passed over. He was also unfairly accused of corruption. Arnold may have cited that as his reason, I don't know, but it sounds like an attempt to justify his actions, when his main reasons involved at least partially justified personal pique.
I'm sure he had multiple motivations, though.
Posted by: pep at May 05, 2013 12:22 PM (YXmuI)
From the ONT.
39Hi Rons and Ettes. I'm riding in a 50-mile ride on Memorial Day Weekend to raise money for the Hole In The Wall Gang Camp's Angel Ride. And I'm trying to hit up the Moron Horde for some donational scratch.
The Ride supports the camp's Hospital Outreach program, which sends out camp staff to visit with and entertain kids with life-threatening illnesses at over 20 hospitals in the Northeast. My son Jonathan got hours of enjoyment from the program while he was hospital-bound in treatment for cancer.
While the ride takes place less than 6 months after my heart attack (hey - I'm a stubborn Sumbitch), it's the 10th anniverary ride, and it takes place almost 4 years to the day after my son's passing, so I'm not missing it. You can make a donation at http://tinyurl.com/cwyczc8
and you can find out more about the program at
http://tinyurl.com/c3c2kc2
So cut back on the pron for a week and give to a great cause.
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Posted by: blaster at May 05, 2013 12:34 PM (RUd/K)
Mr Hicks, Stevens deputy in Benghazi
"Everybody in the mission" in Benghazi, Libya, thought the attack on a U.S. consulate there last Sept. 11 was an act of terror "from the get-go," according to excerpts of an interview investigators conducted with the No. 2 official in Libya at the time, obtained by CBS News' "Face the Nation."
"I think everybody in the mission thought it was a terrorist attack from the beginning," Greg Hicks, a 22-year foreign service diplomat who was the highest-ranking U.S. official in Libya after the strike, told investigators under authority of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. Hicks, the former U.S. Embassy Tripoli deputy chief of mission, was not in Benghazi at the time of the attack, which killed Chris Stevens - then the U.S. ambassador to Libya - and three other Americans.
When he appears this week before the committee, chaired by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., Hicks is expected to offer testimony at odds with what some American officials were saying in public - and on "Face the Nation" - just five days after the attack. Benghazi whistleblowers have rallied attention to discrepancies among the administration's reaction to the attack, which The Weekly Standard suggests was frayed by ever-evolving talking points that sought to remove references to al Qaeda.
Posted by: thunderb at May 05, 2013 12:36 PM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Realist at May 05, 2013 12:37 PM (LmD/o)
Posted by: thunderb at May 05, 2013 12:40 PM (nH8jP)
Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2013 12:42 PM (Wl/Ht)
Really?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2013 12:42 PM (eXTRT)
Realist is good at being a stupid know-it-all.
As if the Declaration of Independence doesn't exist.
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 12:43 PM (+oin+)
Posted by: The Dept. of Acuracy at May 05, 2013 12:43 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at May 05, 2013 12:44 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2013 12:46 PM (Wl/Ht)
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 05, 2013 12:47 PM (Cnqmv)
Each colony had its own colonial legislature and having 13 MPs in the House of Commons wouldn't have changed much. BTW, there's an interesting link in my sock about the pre-Revolution era---check out the left-hand sidebar links there too.
Posted by: andycanuck at May 05, 2013 12:51 PM (mGBy8)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2013 12:51 PM (eXTRT)
poor speedbump
Stefan said he hasn't been able to find a cemetery in Massachusetts willing to take the body, but he has received offers to provide a grave and to contribute money toward the funeral expenses from people in other states. Stefan said he plans to ask the city of Cambridge, where Tsarnaev lived, to provide a burial plot, and if Cambridge turns him down, he will seek help from state officials.
Stefan said Tsarnaev's uncle told him he is anxious to bury his nephew.
"They just want to get it over with. They want to get him buried," Stefan said.
Law enforcement need to find out who those contributions are from. Prolly jihadi lovers
Posted by: thunderb at May 05, 2013 12:52 PM (nH8jP)
Law enforcement need to find out who those contributions are from. Prolly jihadi lovers
Posted by: thunderb at May 05, 2013 04:52 PM (nH8jP)
People are sending money??? 
And, why do they need to bury him. Just cremate the fucker and keep him on the bookshelf in a box.
Posted by: Peaches at May 05, 2013 12:54 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 05, 2013 12:55 PM (mGBy8)
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 05, 2013 04:47 PM (Cnqmv)
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Then why does the GOP?
Posted by: Guido at May 05, 2013 12:55 PM (NQq8e)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 05, 2013 12:58 PM (mGBy8)
Posted by: Guido at May 05, 2013 04:55 PM (NQq8e)
The Founders were literate intelligent self-starters that understood the fundamentals of the human condition.
The GOP ruling class are barely literate, not very intelligent, second raters that have found politics easier than actual work.
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 05, 2013 01:00 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 05, 2013 01:01 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: The Dept. of Acuracy at May 05, 2013 01:03 PM (MhA4j)
4.5 hours in here
here's what'll happen next: Gaming post will pop up, then it will be pushed down 5 minutes later
Posted by: soothsayer at May 05, 2013 01:04 PM (vyPsz)
The GOP ruling class are barely literate, not very intelligent, second raters that have found politics easier than actual work.
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 05, 2013 05:00 PM (Cnqmv)
That right there.
Posted by: Peaches at May 05, 2013 01:04 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: The Dept. of Acuracy at May 05, 2013 01:04 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: sexypig at May 05, 2013 01:06 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: AD at May 05, 2013 01:06 PM (xCVPC)
Posted by: Peaches at May 05, 2013 01:07 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2013 01:08 PM (Wl/Ht)
Posted by: The Dept. of Acuracy at May 05, 2013 01:09 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2013 01:11 PM (qBtUE)
Posted by: Jay in PA at May 05, 2013 01:11 PM (WSgyE)
WHY WE CAN’T TALK ABOUT GUNS: “I’ve come to realize after the Sandy Hook shooting that the reason we can’t have a rational gun debate is because the anti-gun side pre-supposes that their pro-gun opponents must first accept that guns are bad in order to have a discussion about guns in the first place. Before we even start the conversation, we’re the bad guys and we have to admit it. Without accepting that guns are bad and supplicating themselves to the anti-gunner, the pro-gunner can’t get a word in edgewise, and is quickly reduced to being called a murderer, or a low, immoral and horrible human being. You might think that’s hyperbole too, but I’ve experienced it personally from people I considered friends until recently. . . . How can we ‘gun people’ honestly be expected to come to the table with anti-gunners when anti-gunners are willfully stupid about guns, and openly hate, despise and ridicule those of us who own them? There must first be respect and trust — even just a little — before there can be even the beginnings of legitimate discussion of the issue.”
As with most lefty causes, the key driver is a craving for moral superiority, usually driven by oikophobia.
UPDATE: Prof. Stephen Clark writes: “This part of Snell’s column bears repeating: Gun people don’t trust anti-gun people because they lie to us. Yes, they do. For that reason alone, I will not trust them. Period.”
Posted by: andycanuck at May 05, 2013 01:12 PM (mGBy8)
Posted by: olddog in mo at May 05, 2013 01:12 PM (A9na/)
"327 ... The Founders were literate intelligent self-starters that understood the fundamentals of the human condition.
The GOP ruling class are barely literate, not very intelligent, second raters that have found politics easier than actual work."
That's such an unfair generalization!
Just look at my State Senator. His father was a politician, he only won his spot because it was a three-way race among weak candidates, he's never had a real job, or any real accomplishments, his position is essentially irrelevant, given the way NY is run by "three men in a room", he has personally lied to a group I was in, while showing his shocking ignorance of even what the largest cities in the state are.
Um... Never mind!!
Posted by: Optimizer at May 05, 2013 01:15 PM (Mxt9o)
Posted by: rickl at May 05, 2013 01:15 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: olddog in mo at May 05, 2013 05:12 PM (A9na/)
It might be in there somewhere by "don't squish your bro with the getaway car, dumbass," but I'm not an Islamic scholar.
Posted by: Peaches at May 05, 2013 01:17 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 05, 2013 01:18 PM (mGBy8)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2013 01:19 PM (32Scy)
Uhh... because history is always written by the side that won the war?
I'm sure that the Japanese view of Hiroshima as written by those vaporized there would be different than the story we usually get - but for some reason they are unavailable for comment.
Posted by: An Observation at May 05, 2013 01:20 PM (ylhEn)
Posted by: olddog in mo at May 05, 2013 01:30 PM (A9na/)
Shay's Rebellion happened in 1786-7.
The Federalists were kicked out of government as a result, and Jefferson and company passed the bill of rights in 1791. Including the Second Amendment, in order to prevent the government from winning another Shay's Rebellion.
You stupid fucking retard.
Posted by: Kristophr at May 05, 2013 01:31 PM (wYVte)
Progressives feel that the government is responsible for these things.
Posted by: Damiano at May 05, 2013 03:08 PM (BzT5x)
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This needs to be repeated repeatedly.
Posted by: Cannot see the future at May 05, 2013 01:35 PM (nEDGE)
Gabe,
It was a pleasure to read this article, written so well by you. You had me reaching for my pocket constitution to read the third amendment. I found myself wishing there were a way to insert your words into my leftie libtard, out of work son in law's head via ESP. Or, some sort of subliminal suggestion.
It's always a joy to read something that is thoughtful, and well written. That's why I keep coming back to AOSHQ. I am strictly a lurker...it takes me too long to type comments, and I often am very late in my reading, passing the relevancy mark.
Ace, Gabe, Drew, et al ---- keep up the good work! Oh, the moron horde, as well.
Posted by: abandon at May 05, 2013 01:43 PM (Jh8vR)
Posted by: Lincoln at May 05, 2013 01:48 PM (6Abip)
Posted by: Kristophr at May 05, 2013 02:01 PM (wYVte)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 05, 2013 02:01 PM (mGBy8)
pre-revolution the british govt was quartering soldiers specifically in houses of known/suspected leaders of the independence movement. it was to intimidate and keep tabs on them. an attempt to stop them from working w/ others. if that amendment weren't in the constitution I can imagine Woodrow Wilson would've been stationing federal agents in the houses of plenty of those who supported. and with that precedent fdr would've had a field day.
Posted by: chas at May 05, 2013 05:00 PM (t05mB)
The life cycle of a "benevolent dictatorship" is likely to be an extremely short one.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at May 05, 2013 05:43 PM (9+PGS)
Posted by: DRJ at May 05, 2013 08:40 PM (iqHi+)
Posted by: ErisGuy at May 08, 2013 12:02 AM (wqv11)
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