July 18, 2013
— Ace This guy keeps misspelling "America" as "Detroit," which seems odd, because they're not really even that close.
But keep in mind, he means America.
WR Mead wrote about this today, under the headline "Obama to Detroit: Drop Dead."
This is where blue governance has brought Detroit in the end: not even a liberal Democratic administration will step in to save the pensions of thousands of public workers and African Americans, condemning countless innocents to having their pensions and health benefits gutted in bankruptcy court....
Detroit has been spending on average $100 million more than it has taken in for each of the past five years. The cityÂ’s $11 billion in unsecured debt includes $6 billion in health and other retirement benefits and $3 billion in retiree pensions for its 20,000 city pensioners, who are slated to receive less than 10 percent of what they were promised...
And now DetroitÂ’s desperate request for a bailout has been turned down by the Obama White House.
Progressive politicians, wonks, and activists can only blame big corporations and other liberal bogeymen for so long. The truth is that corrupt machine politics in a one-party system devoted to the blue social model wrecked an entire city and thousands of lives beyond repair. The sooner blues come to terms with this reality, the greater chance other cities will have of avoiding DetroitÂ’s fate.
But we won't: ObamaCare is Detroit.
The media wants to talk a bunch about the Zimmerman case and have "national conversations" about lessons we need to learn from a 45-second confrontation involving two people.
Notice they don't want to have national conversations about what lessons we can learn from 51 years of True Blue Democratic administration in Detroit.
Incidentally, today's game on Twitter is retweeting all the liberals and liberal groups who tweeted about Romney saying "Let Detroit go bankrupt" before the election.
That last link via @mamaswati.
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Posted by: ersta mahn at July 18, 2013 04:06 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: The Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench at July 18, 2013 04:06 PM (BTguA)
Posted by: toby928© Person of Pallor at July 18, 2013 04:07 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Mallfly at July 18, 2013 04:07 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Low Information Voter at July 18, 2013 04:07 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: LIV-Man, to the rescue! at July 18, 2013 04:08 PM (27BfC)
//D-Tr0it Yo
On a more serious note if we are very very lucky some of the retards may grasp the truth of your post old boy right before impact...
not that it'll save us but their realization like the "Bridge on the River Kwai" MY GOD WHAT HAVE I DONE!?!
Priceless....
http://youtu.be/tRHVMi3LxZE
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 04:08 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Mallfly at July 18, 2013 04:08 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 18, 2013 04:08 PM (azHfB)
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at July 18, 2013 04:09 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at July 18, 2013 04:09 PM (b9K4P)
Blues come to terms with reality. Hmph. That'll be something.
The reality is that they will not, and that there will consequently be more Detroits.
My money is on Shitcargo as the next blue city to fail.
Hopefully this will not happen until after Obama is out of office. He has no longstanding ties to Detroit, but he certainly does to the Windy City, and as we all know, everything is about him all of the time, nonstop.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 18, 2013 04:10 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 18, 2013 04:10 PM (ccXZP)
America hasn't deliberately driven out (or killed) its own taxpaying base.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 18, 2013 04:11 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2013 04:11 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 18, 2013 04:11 PM (hZKDR)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 04:12 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Ace stumbling out of the time bubble at July 18, 2013 04:12 PM (QupBk)
yes. conversations on race. Below a quote from a noted racist, by todays standards
"There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the black race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the black to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs."
"I am afraid that there is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public."
Who said this?
Booker T. Washington in 1911
Posted by: thunderb at July 18, 2013 04:13 PM (zOTsN)
Detroit.
Unsustainable pension plans.
Angry Muslims.
Angry and aimless illiterate blacks dressed like burglars.
Millions of illegal aliens.
Unsustainable welfare programs.
A devalued currency.
Men 'marrying' men.
These are the fruits of Democrats' looms. This is what Democrats' policies have wrought.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 18, 2013 04:13 PM (FC8Yl)
I realize this blog is a math free zone but the Dems have been sticking it to Detroit for only 51 years.
Posted by: AndrewsDad at July 18, 2013 04:13 PM (C2//T)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 18, 2013 04:13 PM (NEIxp)
Every one of your posts has to do with race.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 18, 2013 04:14 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 18, 2013 04:14 PM (hZKDR)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 18, 2013 04:14 PM (X6akg)
I think you are right, but I cannot grasp how they think they can live any kind of life in Detroit, Chicago, Haiti, Zimbabwe, etc., once their short term goals are met.
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 18, 2013 04:14 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 04:15 PM (wR+pz)
It's more than just the Blue Social - Political model.
It's the deliberate effort of African American Democrat politicians to create a black majority, black run city, that they would rule and dominate.
The expected to be rich and powerful, ruling the manufacturing metropolis of Detroit. A new mecca of political power for African Americans. Coleman Young said in so many words over 40 years ago.
And it has all come true, except the part about being rich and powerful. Because a lot of the automobile manufacturing and associated companies, with the good-paying blue collar jobs got up and left. They moved to the suburbs, out in the country or somewhere else in America, Canada or Mexico. And took their tax receipts with them. Imagine that.
This new mecca of Detroit is a paradigm of the Inner City African American Ideal. Kind of a tattered version of the Emerald City in Oz. Where street gangs roam, where thousands of vacant houses fall into disrepair. Where thousands are on welfare or unemployment. The population is half of what it was 40 years ago. The people and the jobs are gone. Just a husk of a burned out city remains. The same thing has happened in my hometown of Dayton, Ohio. Just on a smaller scale.
They should build a statue to Coleman Young and dedicate the future of Detroit to him. But they probably couldn't afford it.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense at...... at July 18, 2013 04:15 PM (9bMee)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 18, 2013 04:15 PM (NEIxp)
yup, work it out someplace else, dude.
And soothsayer, calm yourself down. You sound like a fucking racist. Whether or not you want to sound that way is your business. I'm just telling you how you sound.
Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 04:15 PM (/IWYB)
Fascinating, the property tax on a house in Detroit (per ace's article) worth 50k is higher than my house assed at 200k.
Incredible.
Also, why is DC's Property tax so low? Extrapolating out, their tax rate is about 1/3 of mine and to be honest, I didn't think mine was that high.
Posted by: tsrblke at July 18, 2013 04:15 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: zsasz at July 18, 2013 04:15 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: The Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench at July 18, 2013 04:16 PM (BTguA)
Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 18, 2013 04:16 PM (hZKDR)
I am sick to death of talking about race this week. I think this GZ crap is all to embroil and distract the public from the failing of this President
Unfortunately, this distract wants a gunfight and to burn down the neighborhood next to mine this Sunday. Its on my mind
Posted by: thunderb at July 18, 2013 04:17 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 04:17 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 04:17 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2013 04:18 PM (MkZzi)
Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 18, 2013 04:18 PM (hZKDR)
Things will change then.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 18, 2013 08:16 PM (bZLLe)
That's what I thought four years ago!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 18, 2013 04:18 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 18, 2013 04:18 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 04:18 PM (wR+pz)
Wait until Ohio gets the memo it's just a crushed beer can to him now...
I figure that'll be at most 3 months after the mid-terms and at the soonest 3 months
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 04:18 PM (LRFds)
Lib tears would be sweet, if they weren't so bitter.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2013 04:19 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: logprof at July 18, 2013 04:19 PM (3VBXw)
work it out someplace else.
You sound stupid and ugly and, frankly, not part of MY race.
My race isn't stupid and ugly.
I think it's just wonderful that you've decided to let your inner racialist out (and this is Obama's fault, of course -- black man causes anti-black racism, film at 11) but do it somewhere else.
I feel like bathing after some of this shit.
Some of you are way, WAYYY too happy about black misfortunes. It's ugly. It stinks like shit. It makes the rest of us feel like showering.
Take your problems elsewhere.
Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 04:19 PM (/IWYB)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 04:20 PM (QupBk)
OK.
So, looking at the ripple effect here.
Detroit goes bust, gets 0 bailout (perhaps? I thought that was a big if, but apparently not.)
I see IL going next (although IIRC there's some potential pitfalls over states going broke.)
Meanwhile, more cities/counties in CA will go belly up as well (especially as, I am to understand, the jobs are pulling out.)
Finally, in local effect, I expect that within 5 years STL city will also declare bankruptcy. Which I think, overall is a good thing. The county needs to pull them in to get them under control (financially mostly) but cannot do it unless it's on the county's term, which requires a bankruptcy.
Then and only then can the mess start to get cleaned up. (I think STL city has about 5 more years until it's income tax on all employees working or living in the city sundowns, which is when the hell really breaks loose.)
Posted by: tsrblke at July 18, 2013 04:20 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2013 04:20 PM (9XBK2)
Angry and aimless illiterate blacks dressed like burglars.
You mean this, Ace? It's a piece of an earlier comment I made about how Holder and Obama are using Trayvon Martin to make sure they keep the black community down for their own benefit.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 18, 2013 04:21 PM (BUcLz)
Posted by: Mallfly at July 18, 2013 08:08 PM (bJm7W)
--Only the shooting events should be held there.
Posted by: logprof at July 18, 2013 04:21 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2013 08:18 PM (MkZzi)
I am so past thinking Geraldo ever had anything to say that actually made sense at any level. But, he was instrumental in my decision to stop watching Fox, so there''s that!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 18, 2013 04:21 PM (XdnQT)
Heh like I said "my God what have I done?"
TWACK CRASH BOOM!
HAHAHAHA
I look forward to bathing in that gaze
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 04:21 PM (LRFds)
Lib tears would be sweet, if they weren't so bitter.
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And they'd be even sweeter if more of the libs could manage to add 1+1 and figure out just how badly Obama's screwing them over.
But I suppose I might as well wish for a heretofore unknown rich uncle who left me his life savings.
Posted by: junior at July 18, 2013 04:22 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 04:22 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 04:22 PM (QupBk)
It won't be limited to those. There will be a large number of midsize cities, Cleveland-sized cities, that are also going to fail.
And then there will be scattered failed small municipalities everywhere, a lot of which aren't even big enough for there to be much consciousness of them outside the immediate area. Slumburbia.
And these failed places will essentially stay failed, because there just is not any remaining financial capability in the rest of the country to underwrite rehabilitating all of these busted urbs.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 18, 2013 04:22 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 18, 2013 04:23 PM (hZKDR)
Do a study of a large sample of Americans of a certain generation, say around 50 years old. Ask them to give a detailed account of the places they lived their entire life. Compare those locations to the dominant party in power at the time. With the local government party in power rating higher than state party. Then run correlation against the income level of the people in the study. Are people at the higher end of the income distribution more likely to have lived under conservative local governments then those who lived most of their lives under Democrat dominated government?
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 18, 2013 04:23 PM (UOjzE)
The connected hacks in good standing with Obama For America and Al Sharpton will keep their bling, and will not see any curtailment to their continued looting of taxpayers
Posted by: kbdabear at July 18, 2013 04:23 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: UWP at July 18, 2013 04:23 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2013 04:23 PM (9XBK2)
>>Shep killed my interest in FNC.
O'Reilly and his Body Language segments didn't exactly make up for lost ground either.
Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 04:24 PM (/IWYB)
I'll be better.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 04:24 PM (LRFds)
You didn't bankrupt that
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And yet, I have this strange feeling that I'm going to be left with the bill anyway...
Posted by: junior at July 18, 2013 04:26 PM (UWFpX)
I've been reading the British papers, the Canadian ones, the Russian ones, and sometimes the Chinese.
Fox is slouching towards Frum's chins...
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 04:26 PM (LRFds)
I've been saying for awhile now...
Hey... America... you want to live like California??? High Taxes? Illegals? A State which does not listen to its own people (Prop 
? A State that is 50th in business Climate? A State that will soon be bankrupt?
Vote Democrat... because that is the Root cause of the Problems in the 'Golden State'.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2013 04:26 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 04:26 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Adjoran at July 18, 2013 04:27 PM (473jB)
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at July 18, 2013 04:27 PM (6WVi+)
Posted by: Adjoran at July 18, 2013 08:27 PM (473jB)
They never come crying to the R's to save them, they BLAME them.
Posted by: Red Shirt at July 18, 2013 04:28 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 04:28 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 04:28 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Sean Hannity at July 18, 2013 04:28 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Fritz at July 18, 2013 04:29 PM (bWoh5)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at July 18, 2013 04:29 PM (b9K4P)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 04:29 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: The Flying Fickle Filthy Filner's Finger of Fate Award at July 18, 2013 04:29 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: Splunge at July 18, 2013 04:29 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at July 18, 2013 04:31 PM (jucos)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 08:26 PM (QupBk)
Compound interest..... its either your bestest buddy... or your worst nightmare... depending on which side you are on...
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2013 04:31 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 18, 2013 04:31 PM (UOjzE)
Missus Muldoon and I were talking this morning about the parallel between the jihadi problem and black culture in America (in the wake of the Zimmerman verdict). It seems that until the bulk of mainstream blacks are willing to disavow the thug actions of the extremists rather than a knee-jerk defense as their default position, it is hard to envision an America where we will be judged on the content of our character rather than the color of our skin. Much like waiting for 'moderate' muslims to speak out against jihadis. Is this a false construct?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2013 04:32 PM (pxDth)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 04:32 PM (ZPrif)
let's make it permanently. It's not as if you're saying something Unexpected and New. I get it, blacks are stupid savages and ruin everything they touch. Is that about it? Are you done with your little racial victory dance or would you like to add more to that?
Do you have anything of your own you can be proud of besides your white skin?
See, apart from the racial ugliness, this is the other part of racism that's so repellent: the sad notion that there are people out there whose sense of value consists only of their skin color. They sort of throw their ropes behind the S. S. White and let the Big White Boat pull them along in the water.
I think it's pathetic that a fucking guy can be so proud of being white. Is that all you got going on for you?
And frankly, let's follow this logic a bit: given that white people have accomplished a hell of a fucking lot, how pathetic is that a white guy chooses to make his mere Whiteness his fucking source of pride?
Doesn't that sort of make you a free-riding n*gger on the rest of us, dude? To put it into your sort of language?
Okay once again, because you guys don't seem to get this:
YOU ARE REPELLENT. YOU REPEL PEOPLE. WE DO NOT SECRETLY AGREE WITH YOU. WE CONDESCEND TO REMAIN SILENT, HOPING YOU WILL GET IT OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM AND MOVE ON AND SAVE US THE SOCIAL EMBARRASSMENT OF INTERVENTIONS LIKE THIS.
Okay you got that now? Since you're just being honest about race, I'll do you the favor and be honest right back. THAT'S what we really think.
So the next time you want to pop off, and you think you're earning Secret Silent Nod Hero Points for your shit-- NO. You sound like low-class gutter-dwelling degenerates whose only achievement is having been born to a white mother and now you're riding that GLORY to the grave.
People are pathetic for clinging to glory years of high school.
How about those who cling the glory of their mere birth?
If I get to to decide who's "White," myself, personally, I toss out all the fucking deadweight welfare cases whose only contribution is an accident of their birth.
Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 04:32 PM (/IWYB)
The mayor of Indianapolis insists that the new generation is moving back to the urban center so a new beginning is certainly upon us.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2013 04:32 PM (MkZzi)
Thanks Ace.
Spent more than 25 years in the company of young black men with guns and never had a problem. Of course, there was a dress code.
It's not race. It's culture. Victim and Rescuer vs. Self-Reliance.
The professional Rescuers always need more Victims.
Posted by: lowlife lurker at July 18, 2013 04:33 PM (Xfd6m)
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 04:33 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 04:33 PM (ZPrif)
We should just let Detroit print it's own currency.
William Saletan of Slate or Salon loves this idea. It would make Detroit bankrupt-proof, just like the U.S.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 18, 2013 04:33 PM (DlaLh)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 04:34 PM (QupBk)
Unions, and as Vic likes to say, black democratum.
Add the MFM and you have the suffocating combination that has effectively blighted urban areas in blue states for the last 50 years.
Posted by: ontherocks at July 18, 2013 04:34 PM (SKknC)
Posted by: EROWMER at July 18, 2013 04:34 PM (OONaw)
Posted by: DrDrill at July 18, 2013 04:35 PM (QM5M6)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 04:35 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Mallfly at July 18, 2013 04:36 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 04:36 PM (ZPrif)
What? This isn't the mirror universe where Geraldo is intelligent? Never mind, then.
Posted by: epobirs at July 18, 2013 04:37 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2013 08:32 PM (MkZzi)
Yeah that's what I keep hearing from fellow millennials, they want to move into the city but it's usually places like Portland, Seattle, San Fran, Austin. It's never Cleveland, Detroit, Los Angeles. They want city urban living but they don't want to be around minorities.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at July 18, 2013 04:38 PM (b9K4P)
The Left has been pushing for large "metro-wide' forms of government and taxation so the productive people can't flee to the suburbs to escape crime and taxation and corruption.
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Which will only work right up until people realize that they can telecommute into work, and thus can live just fine out in the rural areas.
Posted by: junior at July 18, 2013 04:38 PM (UWFpX)
The only mistake a leftist will consider is that they didn't enact enough collectivism
Posted by: kbdabear at July 18, 2013 04:38 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 04:39 PM (QupBk)
Harrisburg PA is 300 million in the hole, AND it already tried and was rejected...
"we'll see"
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 04:39 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Low Information Retard at July 18, 2013 04:39 PM (dvRYt)
Posted by: The Flying Fickle Filthy Filner's Finger of Fate Award at July 18, 2013 04:40 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 04:40 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Fritz at July 18, 2013 08:29 PM (bWoh5)
--If it's halftime in America, this is what happens on first down:
http://youtu.be/XFzp3uHua40
Posted by: logprof at July 18, 2013 04:41 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Manolo at July 18, 2013 04:41 PM (wbHYr)
You forgot to repeat it your usual 7 times in 4 minutes Mr Hannity I almost didn't recognize you.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 04:41 PM (LRFds)
See Cloward/Piven or Jugears' uncle Saul Alinsky for evidence.
Posted by: ontherocks at July 18, 2013 04:41 PM (SKknC)
It's difficult to do actual physical work (construction, repair etc.) over the internet.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2013 04:41 PM (MkZzi)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 04:41 PM (wR+pz)
===
Some people never learn the difference between shearing sheep and skinning them.
Posted by: jc at July 18, 2013 04:42 PM (i8c5b)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 04:42 PM (QupBk)
So Detroit is the first big city to go tits up.
Which state will be the first?
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Not a clue
*cough*
Posted by: junior who lives in California at July 18, 2013 04:42 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 04:42 PM (ZPrif)
So Detroit is the first big city to go tits up.
Which state will be the first?
I've read that there is actually no mechanism for that to take place, no bankruptcy law that applies to a state. But maybe California will blaze the trail. I'd take the rule of a bankruptcy judge over the current crop of Marxist thieves and petty tyrants any day.
Posted by: Splunge at July 18, 2013 04:42 PM (bKA83)
No, it's not a false construct, S. Muldoon. I had the exact same conversation with someone else the other day. I think the root of the problem among the majority of blacks, as with radical Islam, is a toxic combination of poverty, the destruction of the public education system esp in the inner city, and the indoctrination provided by the media.
Posted by: L, elle at July 18, 2013 04:42 PM (0PiQ4)
If bailed out functionally they will have. Make no mistake these blue heavens elected Obama he knows it, they know it, and woebetide they don't get saved.
Helicopter Ben functionally works for Barack Obama ergo they run the Xerox after a fashion.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 04:43 PM (LRFds)
It is EMBARRASSING for the rest of us. You are free-riding on the respectable company people make here. You are USING and ENJOYING that respectable company, but then undermining it, stealing from it, vandalizing it.
Because people don't wish to be embarrassed and don't wish to take the socially-horrifying step of calling out a fucking weirdo, I'll take the hit and do it my damn self.
If you're going to embarrass us, I'll embarrass you back. Okay? Sound fair? Otherwise you're just a Taker, not a Maker, taking a shit in a well-maintained public area and then calling yourself proper for doing so because you're White so of course that particular shit was Classy and somehow linked to Leonardo DaVinci by the White Gene.
Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 04:43 PM (/IWYB)
"The Left has been pushing for large "metro-wide' forms of government and taxation so the productive people can't flee to the suburbs to escape crime and taxation and corruption."
That was a favorite theme of Coleman Young 30 some years ago, and the
suburbs weren't going to have any part of it back then.
Posted by: spc at July 18, 2013 04:43 PM (WDovF)
I think I am going to apply for monsoon payments. Posted by: Billy Bob,
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My deck is turning green and my roof is turning black from the heat and humidity and all the crap that grows as a result.. It's like living in a jungle.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 18, 2013 04:43 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2013 04:44 PM (2mSdf)
Which state will be the first?
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Not a clue
*cough*
Posted by: junior who lives in California at July 18, 2013 08:42 PM (UWFpX)
It couldn't possibly be California. I hear you guys have a SURPLUS.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2013 04:44 PM (MkZzi)
From which does Michael Moore personally benefit from, a thriving Detroit or a depressed Detroit?
These Leftists-celebrities (that includes politicians) make their living on other people's misery.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 18, 2013 04:44 PM (yhYn1)
It's difficult to do actual physical work (construction, repair etc.) over the internet.
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True. But how many jobs these days involve actual physical labor instead of sitting at a desk all day long?
Posted by: junior who lives in California at July 18, 2013 04:44 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: YIKES! at July 18, 2013 04:44 PM (mETGQ)
George Will was right when he described GM as a healthcare/pension provider that made cars on the side.
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 04:45 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Madtom at July 18, 2013 04:45 PM (IyxzF)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 04:45 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Rachel Corrie at July 18, 2013 04:45 PM (Aif/5)
I'm not banning, I'm delivering a lesson and some information that some people resist hearing even though I've now said it 40 times.
Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 04:45 PM (/IWYB)
Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2013 04:46 PM (9XBK2)
which is why I will leave Colorado as soon as it is practical
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 04:46 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 08:36 PM (ZPrif)
--Doesn't NYC have a "commuter tax" that does that already?
Posted by: logprof at July 18, 2013 04:46 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 04:46 PM (wR+pz)
I'm very sorry to hear it. Catch you over on Derbyshire's threads, dude.
Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 04:46 PM (/IWYB)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 04:46 PM (ZPrif)
Which state will be the first?
I've read that there is actually no mechanism for that to take place, no bankruptcy law that applies to a state. But maybe California will blaze the trail. I'd take the rule of a bankruptcy judge over the current crop of Marxist thieves and petty tyrants any day.
Posted by: Splunge at July 18, 2013 08:42 PM
As high as California ranks in the Dead Pool, most who have some clue about finances say that Illinois is the leading contender to go tits up
Posted by: kbdabear at July 18, 2013 04:47 PM (/9IC1)
It's difficult to do actual physical work (construction, repair etc.) over the internet.
***
Perhaps. But if I were a construction foreman, couldn't I lean on my own shovel at home just as well as out at the job site?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2013 04:47 PM (pxDth)
Posted by: UWP at July 18, 2013 04:47 PM (r98SZ)
For the Left, what better example than Detroit (in their twisted and make-believe view, of course) is there for the failure of capitalism?
Your damn right the Left is pleased that Detroit is suffering.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 18, 2013 04:47 PM (GcwH1)
--------------------------------
Dude. Think.
Hospital.
Grocery store.
Amazon fulfillment center.
THE ENTIRE US SUPPLY CHAIN.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 18, 2013 04:47 PM (4Mv1T)
Oh, they want to talk about how benighted and ignorant black culture is, and how stupid blacks sound, and etc.
But when you try to tell them, "Hey, you sound that way to me too," all of a sudden they're like, "Hey man, that's IMPOLITE to say."
Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 04:47 PM (/IWYB)
Posted by: logprof at July 18, 2013 08:21 PM (3VBXw)
U O Me A Kbrd.
Posted by: Joe Mama at July 18, 2013 04:47 PM (2hpna)
that's some authentic internet butthurt right there
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 04:48 PM (8sCoq)
How does one have an honest conversation about race?.... avoid talking about anything bad emanating from the AA community.
How does one have an honest conversation about reli--------aw fuck it.
RELIGION OF PEACE!!
Posted by: Come to Egypt, see the Pyramids...and stay forever in an unmarked grave at July 18, 2013 04:48 PM (2Q0dI)
Sadly the devolution of work ethic and drive and understanding of the mechanism and structures of economics and production are dying across the spectrum of America.
Our entire culture needs a kick in the butt.
I thank the NEA with an assist from to too many parents and the inability of those of us versed in the system as it worked to get past the noise machine of the media.
There's plenty enough fail to go around, add in my personal feelings of shame at my not hanging in there to at least have a try at being a voice in the academy and....as I said plenty of blame to go around.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 04:48 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at July 18, 2013 04:49 PM (dvRYt)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 18, 2013 04:49 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 04:49 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: YIKES! at July 18, 2013 04:49 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 18, 2013 04:49 PM (XdnQT)
OK, but we in CA have many more of the kind of tits that would float.
Posted by: Splunge at July 18, 2013 04:49 PM (bKA83)
The city might go ass up and sink, but I'll wager that the escort services will be flush with cash
Posted by: kbdabear at July 18, 2013 04:49 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2013 08:44 PM (MkZzi)
I know our beautiful surplus, that will stay intact as long the cost of pensions don't increase at all for the foreseeable future, unemployment some how plummets to a reasonable 6% and stays there for about a decade, and the govt. continues to role over debt. We will just be fine and dandy.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at July 18, 2013 04:49 PM (b9K4P)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, enjoying sweet bourbon, brownest of the brown liquors at July 18, 2013 04:49 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: Paul Krugman at July 18, 2013 04:50 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 04:50 PM (wR+pz)
Sometimes people sound pretty low-class to me and I don't say so, because that sort of statement is generally wildly out of bounds. There is a social rule that you avoid saying something truly derogatory.
But these guys kinda keep after this idea that "We have to be HONEST about how awful blacks are," sort of saying, "Fuck politeness, it's time to be REAL."
Okay, but then I hit them with some HONESTY and REAL-NESS back and all of a sudden, the butthurt. All of a sudden they're big believers in the social rules that usually keep conversation inoffensive and polite.
Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 04:50 PM (/IWYB)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, enjoying sweet bourbon, brownest of the brown liquors at July 18, 2013 04:51 PM (6rcHp)
Logistics is still a combination of muscle and motor powered. The problem is and it is again across the spectrum that as the older hard pros in the field are retiring they are being replaced with less driven individuals and to a degree you can't simply hire to replace the holes in productivity. There are practical limits to the time and motion that can be exerted space wise on a logistical operation and if a body is not meeting baseline methodology output of sorting, loading, or transition per man hour the bottom line suffers.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 04:51 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Sophie13 at July 18, 2013 04:51 PM (9HFdN)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at July 18, 2013 04:52 PM (Gk3SS)
Do a study of a large sample of Americans of a
certain generation, say around 50 years old. Ask them to give a detailed
account of the places they lived their entire life. Compare those
locations to the dominant party in power at the time. With the local
government party in power rating higher than state party. Then run correlation
against the income level of the people in the study. Are people at the higher end of the income distribution more likely to have lived under conservative local governments then those who lived most of their lives under Democrat dominated government?
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 18, 2013 08:23 PM (UOjzE)
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I would expect your study to be the most interesting when you compare modes, medians, means, and the two extremes.
I think the two economic extremes agree with each other much more than either group agrees with the folks in the middle.
Posted by: jc at July 18, 2013 04:52 PM (i8c5b)
Your best bet is to try to get skills that let you work on the edge of civilization, the problem is I sometimes wonder if the Liberal endgame isn't destroying us and then declaring the UN sovereign.
That I can even type that these days makes me want to drink bleach because a decade ago I would've mocked the notion.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 04:52 PM (LRFds)
I'm glad to do my part here to keep it real but civilized.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 18, 2013 04:52 PM (ccXZP)
I'm just having the Honest Discussion about Racists that Racists want to have about blacks.
If we're being totally honest, and throwing off the bounds of polite conversation, well, these are the Honest, Real Conversations we're going to have to have.
Honesty and Realness aren't a one-way street, guys. That's a true for you as it is for Holder.
Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 04:52 PM (/IWYB)
Posted by: Eton Cox at July 18, 2013 04:52 PM (q177U)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 04:53 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 04:53 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at July 18, 2013 08:52 PM (Gk3SS)
What area did you grow up in?
Posted by: Red Shirt at July 18, 2013 04:53 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 04:53 PM (ZPrif)
ok. I reviewed my posts. I have talked mainly about the New Black Panther Party in the last two days.
I am obsessing over this Quanell X thing near me. My husband is gone until Wed, I am alone with my Aspie kid, and I do not have a gun. The Mayor and the Chief of Police, by their own statements, seem very intent on protecting the rioters. I am, to be frank, afraid.
Posted by: thunderb at July 18, 2013 04:54 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Red Shirt at July 18, 2013 08:53 PM (FIDMq)
Southwest Michigan.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at July 18, 2013 04:54 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Kate58 at July 18, 2013 04:54 PM (oLZsm)
The thing is only the truly ignorant can even advance that claim to the first contratemp without laughing.
The problem is I think the Truly Ignorant are about 32% of the American population.
I just explained the concept of compound interest to a 31 year old who is going to rent from me and he is a bright guy lower upper management and he had never had it illustrated for him.
That is a big, big problem maybe 1 in 5 kids can pass a basic econ fluency quiz.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 04:55 PM (LRFds)
And, how do we get Ace's old hash back?
Posted by: L, elle at July 18, 2013 04:55 PM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 18, 2013 04:55 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Barack Obama at July 18, 2013 04:55 PM (NEIxp)
Is there anyone you can go stay with? There's nothing wrong at all with safety in numbers.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at July 18, 2013 04:55 PM (Gk3SS)
Anyone remember that SNL skit about a scene from 18th British pornography if they had porn back then?
They were alll very polite and proper. Quite weird stuff.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 18, 2013 04:55 PM (FC8Yl)
Posted by: thunderb at July 18, 2013 08:54 PM (zOTsN)
Please stay safe. And we here know you're not a racist.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2013 04:55 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: YIKES! at July 18, 2013 04:56 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at July 18, 2013 08:54 PM (Gk3SS)
Western suburbs of Grand Rapids here
Posted by: Red Shirt at July 18, 2013 04:56 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Adam at July 18, 2013 04:56 PM (Aif/5)
Dayton is known as Detroit's Shadow or was anyway. If I might ask ma'am was ~1984 pretty much the beginning of the end of sanity there as I recall? I got to go through the 75 strip between Detroit and Cincy every now and again and that is my impression.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 04:57 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 04:57 PM (ZPrif)
...not hanging in there to at least have a try at being a voice in the academy and....as I said plenty of blame to go around.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 08:48 PM (LRFds)
*****
Hey, sven- They say the reason for banging your head against a wall is that it feels so good when you stop. My outspoken bluntness was never very appreciated among my academic "betters". It did feel good when I stopped. As far as I am concerned, if we are making a good faith effort to "do the right thing" and taking care of our families, the failure is not ours.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2013 04:57 PM (pxDth)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 04:57 PM (wR+pz)
We're living in weird, frightening times. Our own president and his DoJ aren't looking out for us.
I feel sick to my stomach for my country.
Glad our son is leaving the Marines in a few weeks. He's fed up, too.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2013 04:58 PM (lVPtV)
4.3M in the metro area.
Detroit metro is the real Detroit.
Detroit proper could be Kandorized and Detroit the metro would be fine.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 08:53 PM (ZPrif)
Yeah I imagine if it was a problem with just Detroit the city, it would have been fixed a while ago. I'm sure there are plenty of union workers of Detroit who don't actually live in the city but in the metro area. This is true of most cops, firefighters, govt. employees that work in L.A. but don't actually live in L.A. city, they live in L.A. county or just outside of it. I'm sure many of those metro areas are solidly blue.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at July 18, 2013 04:58 PM (b9K4P)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 04:58 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2013 04:59 PM (2mSdf)
Posted by: Jones
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And WHO, exactly, are you referring to?
Posted by: Angela Corey at July 18, 2013 04:59 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: L, elle at July 18, 2013 04:59 PM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: UWP at July 18, 2013 04:59 PM (r98SZ)
The problem is I think the Truly Ignorant are about 32% of the American population.
And
Posted by: soothsayer at July 18, 2013 05:00 PM (yhYn1)
Posted by: YIKES! at July 18, 2013 05:00 PM (mETGQ)
They were alll very polite and proper. Quite weird stuff.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 18, 2013 08:55 PM (FC8Yl)
I have a book that's a reprint of a very popular Victorian era erotica work. It is, hands down, the most hardcore thing I've ever read. Pick a perversion and it's happily presented as grand and wonderful and just yeah. Not prim and proper and reserved at all.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at July 18, 2013 05:00 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 05:00 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 05:01 PM (ZPrif)
Ace you're obviously deeply affected and aghast at the mess you see. I am not deigning to speak for you, just speaking as someone who has happily walked and read by your side on this virtual road lo these years. Your words even when pointed at views I hold are always welcome, and often cherished by me as I was taught it never hurts to have a second set of eyes you've grown to trust to watch your demeanor.
If ever I am a burden or risk please let me know, and it is important that as you earn your way as a writer you lay out streams of thought to formulate your prose.
All my idiocy, cryptic rambling aside I would not indulge in labeling myself your friend it is an imposition but do know I have and always will remain barring some great break in your norm an admirer of your intellect and integrity.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 05:01 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 08:53 PM
dont blaim us, wee votid for snax
Posted by: teh kittehs at July 18, 2013 05:01 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: David (NOT Dave!), infamous sockpuppet at July 18, 2013 05:02 PM (w6ylO)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 05:02 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2013 05:02 PM (2mSdf)
Posted by: Buzzion at July 18, 2013 05:02 PM (xYk6F)
CON: too humid, hurricanes.
PRO: Great football culture, beaches and of course jumbo Gulf shrimp.
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 05:03 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: David (NOT Dave!), infamous sockpuppet at July 18, 2013 05:03 PM (w6ylO)
What can I say I'd like to pretend it's a great insight on either our parts, but the reality is it has been the elephant in the room since probably about 1982.
I am truly ashamed when it was time for me to show moral and intellectual courage and endurance I was found wanting.
As I said earlier I now want the crash hard because I do not want my son or God willing my grandsons paying for my failure to stop the crash.
God bless you DL you are at times my candle in the dark on these things.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 05:03 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: NSA George at July 18, 2013 05:03 PM (QupBk)
It is, hands down, the most hardcore thing I've ever read.
Well, if the stories about Queen Whatshername and her horses are true...
But I'll bet those horses were polite. Quite polite, indeed.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 18, 2013 05:04 PM (GcwH1)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 05:04 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 18, 2013 05:04 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 05:05 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: YIKES! at July 18, 2013 09:00 PM (mETGQ)
the houses are too far apart - remember he's a 'community organizer' at heart
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 05:05 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 05:05 PM (QupBk)
Tomorrow I have to face the horror (literally) of having my eyes dilated and probed. I'd rather give birth again, via emergency c-section.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2013 05:06 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 05:06 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 05:07 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 05:07 PM (bb5+k)
Exactly. This is the point I have tried hardest to get through the heads of lefties of my acquaintance, and with the least success. If Organization A proposes to take money from person B, and give it to Person C, the motivation is not compassion for C, but the power and money which comes to Organization A, from being in charge of the transfer, and taking the skim.
People will believe it just fine until you tell them that Organization A is the Government. Which they think has some power to transcend human nature.
Posted by: Splunge at July 18, 2013 05:07 PM (bKA83)
God knows I've gone on at length. I honestly do think the battle was lost before I was 5. I am unproven on any but a simulated battlefield, my early life had me in harm's way but I can't in good conscience compare it to soldiering.
I crawled under fire from an M-60 and felt no fear, but I knew not felt I knew I'd either fail or be so unhappy it'd kill me.
The system does not want the kids taught to be self-reliant good citizens they are social activist neo-subjects.
I had enough old guard teachers I find the notion abhorrent.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 05:07 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 05:08 PM (wR+pz)
The Romance of Lust and there is no way in hell I would ever ever excerpt it. I want to be perfectly clear on this, I am in no way recommending that you read it. In fact, I am recommending that you do not read it. There are parts that blow way way way past mildly underage and straight into child porn. That's not even getting into the, how to put this, very very close indeed family relationships. That's not nearly the most disturbing stuff, by the way.
I know you guys are trying to be your usual pervy selves but, serious you guys, don't. I'm not kidding about this.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at July 18, 2013 05:08 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 09:07 PM (aDwsi)
Wut???
Seriously, I'm not from here, and spent my life until teen years on military bases here and in Europe.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2013 05:08 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 05:08 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 05:08 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 05:08 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: David (NOT Dave!), infamous sockpuppet at July 18, 2013 05:09 PM (w6ylO)
Posted by: UWP at July 18, 2013 05:09 PM (r98SZ)
The thing is, we don't come here for honesty and frankness. We come here for snark, tits, and fart jokes.
*****
And at the end of the day, there is nothing more honest and frank than tits and fart jokes.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2013 05:09 PM (pxDth)
Posted by: Eton Cox at July 18, 2013 05:10 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 05:10 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2013 05:10 PM (Bl/+f)
Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2013 05:11 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 05:12 PM (wR+pz)
We (well, not me) elected an Academic Marxist. First time we did that. It was really, really stupid. Bet we'd be seeing about the same crap if the skin tone of the Academic Marxist we (not me) put in charge were as white as a Scandi's is.
Posted by: Splunge at July 18, 2013 05:12 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 05:12 PM (bb5+k)
That is sad. I think I was 12 when my mother explained the concept to me and it isn't like math is her strong suit. It was just one of those critical concept you have to know before you start doing anything with money beyond cash purchases.
I find myself wondering "what the hell do the schools teach, if not this?" and feel a little less impaired by my lack of formal education.
Posted by: epobirs at July 18, 2013 05:12 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2013 05:12 PM (Bl/+f)
Yup. You all hit on something right there... All the attention that seems to continue to focus on Zimmerman is indeed done by the left to get minorities to vote in the off year election which won't have the Obama draw....
The race card is going to be played for the next year at a very loud and persistent beat.
Tingles to the 10th power. A dog whistle at every turn.
Wonderful.
Posted by: Come to Egypt, see the Pyramids...and stay forever in an unmarked grave at July 18, 2013 05:13 PM (2Q0dI)
I don't think Jane is THAT Old. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2013 09:12 PM (Bl/+f)
LOL. Thanks.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2013 05:14 PM (lVPtV)
Seriously, I'm not from here, and spent my life until teen years on military bases here and in Europe.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
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Well..., I-16 and I-75 were not completed until the mid 70's. Up until then, people often traveled back and forth between Savannah and Atlanta on the train, The Nancy Hanks. Ladies often made day trips to Atlanta for shopping, as it left in the morning, and returned in the evening.
Oh, and FWIW, Nancy Hanks was Abe Lincoln's mother.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 05:14 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: logprof at July 18, 2013 05:14 PM (3VBXw)
I know- if only Kate would go into labor
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 09:08 PM (8sCoq)
+++++
Heh Jones. I commented earlier that the little royal baby must have taken a peek** and seen the state of the British Empire and now has herself wedged into Kate's uterus with her feet braced against the inside of the cervix in a vain but valiant attempt to avoid being born. Stiff inner labia and all that, old chap.
**(must be a womb with a view)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2013 05:14 PM (pxDth)
Posted by: UWP at July 18, 2013 05:14 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 18, 2013 05:15 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at July 18, 2013 05:15 PM (t/pzi)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 05:15 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at July 18, 2013 05:15 PM (K8169)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 05:15 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: puddleglum at July 18, 2013 05:16 PM (Cgaph)
Posted by: USA at July 18, 2013 05:16 PM (VIaw0)
The Democrat party is the party of "vigorish" and the Republicans have been working to get in on the game.
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 05:16 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 05:16 PM (ZPrif)
word around the campfire is that Harry is telling friends he's thrilled to be getting a nephew
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 05:17 PM (8sCoq)
I'm going to take away a point because this story kind of ran for real. As the James Woods sidebar piece notes, Gore Vidal actually was in love with Timothy McVeigh, and I don't mean that as an exaggeration.
Posted by: ACE at July 18, 2013 05:17 PM (/IWYB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 09:14 PM (aDwsi)
I know who Nancy Hanks was. Are you aware there was a train that ran from downtown Savannah to Tybee Island until the great hurricane of 18-something. Businessmen used to hop the train to visit their families on Tybee for the weekends. Until most everyone was drowned, and the tracks destroyed.
Now the old tracks are (a portion of) a Rails-to-Trails hiking and biking path.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2013 05:17 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 18, 2013 05:17 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 05:18 PM (bb5+k)
We (well, not me) elected an Academic Marxist. First time we did that......
Posted by: Splunge at July 18, 2013 09:12 PM (bKA83)
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Harrumph !!
Posted by: woodrow wilson at July 18, 2013 05:19 PM (i8c5b)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 05:19 PM (ZPrif)
It was at the Monteleone Hotel in the French Quarter
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 05:19 PM (8sCoq)
This. When I finally traveled outside the country, I realized that this is a purely American frame to put things in. We're so immersed in it that we have trouble seeing that reality isn't lined up that way.
Posted by: Splunge at July 18, 2013 05:19 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at July 18, 2013 05:20 PM (K8169)
Posted by: UWP at July 18, 2013 05:20 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: Buzzion at July 18, 2013 05:20 PM (yPR+A)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 05:21 PM (bb5+k)
If you grasp how to pay bills, sound principles of accounting and budgeting, and understand the profit motive you're ahead of the game WRT many underclassmen in college. That is not hyperbole or false indulgence. I'd peg the value of education for practical living by the 10th grade to have peaked in this nation in the era of 1962-1977 depending on region.
There is a systemic and willful collusion to convince the modern student that the most important things they can grasp are Meteorology as deity, social justice doctrine, and IT. Children lucky enough to have innate gifts in math and science will be encouraged to use those gifts to "change the world." Absent that a child must be lucky enough to have one or more dedicated teachers to breathe a love of learning into them.
Classical Literature and Civics to foster a genuine sense of nation are dead, they willfully teach economic falsehood without counter example as a cornerstone of what little analysis of social structure and representative government theory they instill. My grandfather's generation was made to read Roger's Rules of Order and Common Sense. My father's education inasmuch as he availed himself was also well versed in understanding his role and duty as a US citizen.
Scholarship is not a destination, nor a closed club inasmuch as a path and personal avocation. This forum at its best is a valuable tool for those who need a pool of diverse experience to plumb their own walk on the various paths. I've never considered you a shoddy read.
Keep walking it, your will to learn is a tool of survival against prideful ignorance.
regards,
sven
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 05:21 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at July 18, 2013 05:21 PM (u0HjB)
Posted by: woodrow wilson at July 18, 2013 09:19 PM (i8c5b)
Well played. I had to look it up, but you win this one. In my defense, it has been a while.
Posted by: Splunge at July 18, 2013 05:22 PM (bKA83)
Was that Gore Vidal's attempt to copy Normal Mailer's popular relationship with and novel about Gary Gilmore?
If I recall, Gore Vidal and Normal Mailer hated each other. Or was it just Bill Buckley who was hated by Gore Vidal?
Posted by: soothsayer at July 18, 2013 05:22 PM (vyPsz)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 05:22 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2013 05:22 PM (Bl/+f)
Posted by: redguy at July 18, 2013 05:22 PM (oqvI4)
@286
Don't forget global warming. Schools are big on global warming.
Global warming, self esteem, socialism, racism against you know who (*whisper*don't tell Ace), sexism against males and how to put condoms on bananas.
...and yes, I know they call it Climate Change! now, but, I be a conservative traditionalist gun toten bible clingin' denier.
Posted by: Come to Egypt, see the Pyramids...and stay forever in an unmarked grave at July 18, 2013 05:23 PM (2Q0dI)
Posted by: Cato at July 18, 2013 05:23 PM (EJrVv)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 05:23 PM (wR+pz)
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You can pretty much tell who the racist is, its the guy talking about race. Same goes for the rest of the subsets. Someone gets up and starts talking womens "rights" - they're the sexist in the room. I've almost concluded that its one of the simple rules of life.
Posted by: UWP at July 18, 2013 09:14 PM (r98SZ)
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didn't everybody's Grandmother tell them: "it takes one to know one?"
Also known as 'projection.'
Rule of thumb: anything anyone accuses you of doing, they are either already doing that, or they are seriously considering doing that. Rule is probably doubly true in politics.
Posted by: jc at July 18, 2013 05:24 PM (i8c5b)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 18, 2013 05:24 PM (NEIxp)
Well said, in some of my "drunken monkey style" postings I pointed out how hard civilization is and the inherent strength of will to preserve it in the Chinese.
Intellect and will are not in the skin, they are in our species ideally and I reject the notion that there is an innate superiority or an inherent flaw in any human being barring moral, physical, or social degeneracy.
and I MEAN that
I love mankind warts and all, and I don't think we can be perfected but I sure as hell know that we are better than THIS.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 05:25 PM (LRFds)
****
I hope you don't now tell us that you "have the body of a 25-year-old."
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2013 05:25 PM (pxDth)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at July 18, 2013 09:20 PM (K8169)
That's a good night's work!
Posted by: Jeff Dahmer at July 18, 2013 05:25 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 05:25 PM (bb5+k)
I think you may have a valid point here. Well, Thomas Sowell talks about race in some of his books, but it's basically a necessary defensive maneuver, so I think he gets an exemption. Thinking about the consequence of the race focus you're talking about doesn't really count.
Posted by: Splunge at July 18, 2013 05:25 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at July 18, 2013 09:21 PM (u0HjB)
The Detroit Tigers are in 1st place right now.
How's that workin' out for Detroit?
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 18, 2013 05:26 PM (ccXZP)
Fawlty Towers:
Mrs. Fawltey " Basil, we have German guests, please keep your mouth shut about the WAR"
Basil: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Posted by: seamrog at July 18, 2013 05:27 PM (0Wk8o)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2013 05:27 PM (pxDth)
Also known as 'projection.'
Rule of thumb: anything anyone accuses you of doing, they are either already doing that, or they are seriously considering doing that. Rule is probably doubly true in politics.
I don't have any Ann Coulter books, but I'm pretty sure that one of them is mostly devoted to this concept. She is abrasive, but that's partly because she is right about a lot of things before other people catch on.
Posted by: Splunge at July 18, 2013 05:27 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2013 05:28 PM (Bl/+f)
Posted by: Basil Fawlty at July 18, 2013 05:28 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 18, 2013 05:28 PM (//Lhm)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at July 18, 2013 05:29 PM (K8169)
Mormons don't drink.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 09:23 PM (wR+pz)
True. But Romney's so rich, he can hire other people to drink for him.
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 18, 2013 05:29 PM (UOjzE)
The media was guilty of dereliction of duty, yes, but each is responsible for his own vote.
Posted by: Splunge at July 18, 2013 05:30 PM (bKA83)
This is a big school of thought on the left nowadays: people who fled prog-controlled cities to the suburbs are what actually caused the cities to fail (because it's never the progs' fault), and so it's only fair for cities to be able to levy taxes on the surrounding suburbs. (There's a significant racialist component to how some lefty "thinkers" discuss this, of course, but clearly we won't be going into that aspect here).
Posted by: Ian S. at July 18, 2013 05:30 PM (OevbG)
Posted by: Cato at July 18, 2013 05:30 PM (EJrVv)
Posted by: NC Ref at July 18, 2013 05:31 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2013 05:31 PM (Bl/+f)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 05:31 PM (bb5+k)
And I wonder if that character flaw didn't doom Romney's prospects as much as anything else.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 18, 2013 05:31 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 05:31 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 18, 2013 05:31 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: USA at July 18, 2013 05:32 PM (VIaw0)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at July 18, 2013 05:33 PM (K8169)
Another "lesson" that America just won't learn about progressives. You can't run from them. If you attempt to, they will follow you and punish you anyway for leaving their little social experiment.
Posted by: WolfinNC at July 18, 2013 05:33 PM (HVOxM)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 05:33 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 18, 2013 05:33 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2013 05:33 PM (Bl/+f)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 18, 2013 05:33 PM (//Lhm)
Posted by: Cato at July 18, 2013 05:34 PM (EJrVv)
Posted by: USA at July 18, 2013 05:34 PM (VIaw0)
Let me hindcast this : no racist corrupt motherfucker in detroit ever contributed a dime to my welfare.
Forecast: I will do my damndest to make sure not a dime of mine ever gets to those cocksuckers and any others in that same boat. Look at and listen to me you bankrupt fucks. I`ve already quit supporting this bunch of lib mutherfuckers that are running our Country down the pit to hell, they made that choice.
Posted by: rightlysouthern at July 18, 2013 05:35 PM (uOxBm)
Posted by: YTown Guy at July 18, 2013 05:35 PM (das+y)
338 Seamus you beat me to it. Guess the next round's on me.
Posted by: NC Ref at July 18, 2013 09:31 PM (/izg2)
*****
Let's just call it a dead heat! Sköl!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2013 05:35 PM (pxDth)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 18, 2013 05:35 PM (azHfB)
Posted by: DailyDish at July 18, 2013 05:35 PM (+b3dK)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 05:36 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: UWP at July 18, 2013 05:36 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 05:36 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: USA at July 18, 2013 05:37 PM (VIaw0)
So...politically...how does this square with Amnesty?
We have, one one hand, a struggling city in desperate need for business and jobs. On the other hand we have an inexplicable urgent push to add millions of 'new' Americans to the welfare system and Obamacare.
If the Republicans were smart...
Posted by: soothsayer at July 18, 2013 05:37 PM (yhYn1)
I don't think that that will be a problem for them.
Posted by: George Zimmerman, Honorary White Guy at July 18, 2013 05:37 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Joe Biden at July 18, 2013 05:38 PM (NEIxp)
And I wonder if that character flaw didn't doom Romney's prospects as much as anything else.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 18, 2013 09:31 PM (ccXZP)
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I would agree, and not in jest. Personally, I think the choom bus thing was calculated and was a net vote winner for Oblamer.
Posted by: jc at July 18, 2013 05:38 PM (i8c5b)
Posted by: L, elle at July 18, 2013 05:38 PM (0PiQ4)
It's a good point, but I will say and not offering it as an excuse and feeling sincere shame at feeling this way I cannot escape the noise and I am and I really am running out of arguments not to indulge in the tribalism the very SYSTEM sworn to safeguard against institutional racism indulges in.
You can't escape it, the MSM never shuts up about it and I have seen too many otherwise good people of all stripes indulge in the cult of victimology that is going on.
It is like some bizzaro universe morphing of the "union rules" mentality wherein some protected class or the other tries to maximize their own gain gaming some perverted games dynamic on the back of creating a whole and the subsumal of others efforts.
I am ashamed that my sincere and honest analysis of where we are heading *is* telling me that this is going to be aimed at me and male descendants barring my son or his down the line in fact interbreeding with a minority.
This is as repelllant a "normal" to me as my being granted "mighty whitey super powers" would be and should be held by people of other stripes.
I don't have an answer and I am scared of my questions in the wake of TrayvonaThon and "you can't have an intellectual and political loathing of THIS man unless it is race based."
I'm sorry he is not a scumball Chicago Marxist politician because he's black... he chose that with that charming little mind of his I am barred from reverse engineering the curricula vitae of with too much precision.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 05:38 PM (LRFds)
Lib tears would be sweet, if they weren't so bitter.
Is the younger generation of libbies really that dumb?
Posted by: Titanium at July 18, 2013 05:38 PM (mSmJM)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 05:38 PM (wR+pz)
Which is what makes the Stockholm Syndrome sufferers even more annoying. They're leaving areas that they destroyed by voting for Dems, and the first thing they do in the new place is register Dem. Colorado went from respectable state to FARK punchline (the whole pee yourself to scare away rapists thing) in about a decade, and I think Texas will fall faster than a lot of people here want to believe.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 18, 2013 05:38 PM (OevbG)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 05:38 PM (ZPrif)
All right y'all. I'm out. Salt mines in the a.m. Endeavor to persevere.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2013 05:38 PM (pxDth)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 18, 2013 05:39 PM (NEIxp)
There are places in Detroit where no one resides. No one. Even the bums and criminals don't live there because there is no one to bum off of and no one to steal from. Pretty sad state.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 18, 2013 05:39 PM (4+FWp)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 18, 2013 05:39 PM (azHfB)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 05:40 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 05:40 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 05:40 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 05:41 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: LadyS at July 18, 2013 05:42 PM (0zpQW)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 05:42 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Cato at July 18, 2013 09:30 PM (EJrVv)
--I don't even find it a particularly interesting topic. I've had my lifetime quota of "discussions" from watching several Spike Lee and John Singleton movies (back in the '90s when they were at least entertaining even if you did not agree with them 100%) and Crash. The differences between men and women on the other hand? Fascinating, which is why lefty feminists are boring (because they try to deny those differences).
Posted by: logprof at July 18, 2013 05:43 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 18, 2013 05:43 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: President Snow at July 18, 2013 05:43 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: cleveland at July 18, 2013 05:43 PM (BmWNr)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 05:43 PM (ZPrif)
Let's say for a moment that the Republicans were clever and had ideas.
Republicans would be drafting an economic proposal, a grand plan, to save an American city, say, Detroit. They would present this proposal as an alternative to the Democrats' push for Amnesty.
Here's what would happen next: the Democrats would blow it off. The next move would be the Republicans' move: Force the Democrats to explain to their loyal base why they don't really care about them.
Finally, the Republicans sit back and watch. And laugh.
That's how politics are done.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 18, 2013 05:44 PM (052zE)
One of the measures that people apply to another person is -- Would I want to sit down and have a few beers with this person? That's a measure of character, per US standards.
Even TFG knows about this; witness the Gates/cop/TFG meeting that he pulled off including beers on the table. Romney by his religion would forever be forbidden from this simple ritual.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 18, 2013 05:44 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: ALH at July 18, 2013 05:44 PM (2LTPq)
Posted by: Trump at July 18, 2013 05:44 PM (8x6+z)
Posted by: Cato at July 18, 2013 05:44 PM (EJrVv)
Posted by: The Detroit Lean and the Gangsta Machine at July 18, 2013 05:44 PM (uLzrM)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 05:45 PM (bb5+k)
"You're a monster, Zorg."
"Yes, I know."
Posted by: epobirs at July 18, 2013 05:45 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: L, elle at July 18, 2013 05:45 PM (0PiQ4)
I'd contend that if you mix the cocktail well enough you blend to the point that it casn be argued there's a "new norm". Of course, that does bring up that as the Twilight Zone episode on masks once showed "new normative" will at some point schism and you will subdivide into units in a greater tribe. Part of me wonders if Brazil is not the exception that largely proves the rule?
To an untrained eye there are "three" races at play in Brazil but the Brazilians consider themselves 6 or ten "types" IIRC the reading and interaction with Brazilians is more than a decade old and I fear as I age my memory is finally going fuzzy on details at times.
The matter was an issue of interest for me, because the boy was more likely to have been 1/2 Viet or Khmer than white had I not switched back to my Alma Mater and courted my wife.
At any rate if I am in the ONT I will post SFW/NSFW/and Semi SFW pics of Brazilians...
of course as I reminded Giam my Vietnamese girlfriend once, "darling you're already a mix of Vietnamese, Chinese, and French."
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 05:46 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: General Zod at July 18, 2013 05:46 PM (Jsiw/)
They moved forward, while China remained stagnant.
Memes are forces on par with tribes and races. Islam is a prime example of this. It is a very powerful meme.
The American Meme was also very powerful, but it has become undone by it's own success.
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 09:31 PM (bb5+k)
--And my point is, look who's stagnant now? Chinese civilization will endure, but China is kind of eating its seed corn (in the form of females of the next generation) to modernize right now. But yeah, this is a topic bigger than a comment thread works with.
Posted by: logprof at July 18, 2013 05:46 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 05:47 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: The Detroit Lean and the Gangsta Machine at July 18, 2013 05:47 PM (uLzrM)
Amen to that. When I moved to NC five years ago, I thought I'd finally be living in a "red state". But between massive voter registration among the state's minority population and the influx of people from the northeast, we're now "purple". Two elections ago, this place was dead red. I think GWB took it by 15 points or something in 2004.
Now, I am one of the people who left NY for greener pastures, but for the life of me, if I see one more person from Long Island telling me how they love the low taxes and low crime, yet voting for the same damn party that gave them all the "comforts" of home in NY, I'm gonna scream.
Why is it so hard to see? Look at Detroit. Look at California. 60 years ago, they were at the leading edge of American ingenuity and the most successful areas of the country. 60 years of communist (lets be clear) control, and they're both stinking cesspools. I know the media pumps the pro-blue message, but at some point, who are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?
Posted by: WolfinNC at July 18, 2013 05:48 PM (HVOxM)
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The work camps will all be organized by then. No problem.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 05:48 PM (aDwsi)
she did have long standing relationships notably with Potemkin
haha, that's a funny name for a horse!
Posted by: soothsayer at July 18, 2013 05:48 PM (vyPsz)
The American experiment ideally was to be an exercise in transcending the bonds of biology and having a tribe based on adherence to Lockeian based ideals.
That we did not always live up to that is tragic, that we are empowering people who reject the enterprise entire is maddening.
Love Locke, hate Marx and find your niche and do right by your people.
I have yet to have that notion properly destroyed by anyone and I do strive to live up to it.
That I am in raw anger is because I am terrified our generation is the dying gasp of the enlightenment
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 05:48 PM (LRFds)
http://youtu.be/cFwEiG4I-Wg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 05:49 PM (zXm5+)
The reference to Fawlty Towers was a feeble attempt to address the "race issues" that are being both, thought and not talked about.
Strong feelings on both sides, promoted by the regime that wants to divide and conquer.
The British / German divide was not that large, through intermarriage and invasion ( Angles, Saxons, Jutes).
The American version is much more complex.
Posted by: seamrog at July 18, 2013 05:49 PM (0Wk8o)
Posted by: wooga at July 18, 2013 05:49 PM (myr0b)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 05:49 PM (QupBk)
They simply refuse, possibly from hubris, to see why they felt the need to run from "paradise."
It seems to be a cycle.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 05:50 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at July 18, 2013 09:15 PM (t/pzi)
no shit?!
I grew up in 'Jeni' and my parents still live there. I live in the Rockford area now.
Posted by: Red Shirt at July 18, 2013 05:50 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Telepresence Я Us at July 18, 2013 05:50 PM (U82Km)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 09:38 PM (wR+pz)
Uh oh
Posted by: The Chicken at July 18, 2013 05:50 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 05:51 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: wooga at July 18, 2013 05:52 PM (myr0b)
("The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls." )Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 05:52 PM (bb5+k)
The media was guilty of dereliction of duty, yes, but each is responsible for his own vote.
Posted by: Splunge at July 18, 2013 09:30 PM (bKA83)
Dereliction of duty? Not even close. They were active agents in the Democrat Election machine, and they still are.
The problem is that the fiction is still widespread that the media people have a "duty."
They are partisan soldiers in the army of socialism. They are propaganda agents.
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 09:40 PM (bb5+k)
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I don't believe in the 'accidental paycheck theory.' All those people were paid to do what they did. Whoever keeps authorizing those paychecks is doing so on purpose and with knowledge of what they are buying.
To me, that makes the highest probability explanation == 'the folks who own our politicians own the media.'
It is a nationwide stupidity test and it starts with someone taking a paycheck from a big corporation standing in front of a camera telling us all how they are: "for the little guy," and "out to protect you from big business." We are still flunking the test.
Hell, even if they don't succeed in telling people what to think, they succeed in telling people what to thing about -- such as a recent murder case that you are required to form an opinion about.
Posted by: jc at July 18, 2013 05:52 PM (i8c5b)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 05:53 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at July 18, 2013 05:53 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Jen at July 18, 2013 05:53 PM (7kelz)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 18, 2013 05:53 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: fluffy at July 18, 2013 05:54 PM (z9HTb)
Hey BillyBob
Re: the Irish:
Paga ma hone an bid da husk ye dirty debil.
Enough of the Irish bashing, asshole.
Posted by: seamrog at July 18, 2013 05:54 PM (0Wk8o)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 05:54 PM (bb5+k)
Is the younger generation of libbies really that dumb?
Yep, and many of the Olders. They scream give me something, you don`t deserve that, racism, we`re more intelligent than you, yet vote themselves onto a plantation run by official head honchos who could care less about their welfare. Then turn around and blame me for their troubles. LIB`s acomin`.
Posted by: rightlysouthern at July 18, 2013 05:55 PM (uOxBm)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 18, 2013 05:55 PM (X4HxX)
Posted by: Cato at July 18, 2013 05:55 PM (EJrVv)
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 09:46 PM (LRFds)
--Don't forget! 
Posted by: The Chicken at July 18, 2013 05:55 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at July 18, 2013 05:56 PM (9bMee)
Posted by: General Zod at July 18, 2013 05:56 PM (Jsiw/)
I may steal that line about a tribe arranged around Lockean ideals. I don't think I've ever heard it put better.
As to Detroit Syndrome (I think we should rename it... Stockholm, that old school. We new school. Our generation.), I wonder if it isn't anything short of a mental condition. These people essentially deny reality. It's not as if they can say, "well, my city/state's problems were caused by this, it's different" - almost every major city in America has been plagued by this disease, and it's always the same. Race baiting, marxist social policies, pitting police against citizens, pitting citizens against businesses. Yet they don't see. Like children who just want what they want and they don't care for the cost.
Posted by: WolfinNC at July 18, 2013 05:57 PM (HVOxM)
Romney had THAT OPPORTUNITY!
MY GOD how I cried inside when he never landed blows on the dysfunction of our industrial base and tied it into the evangelical EPA.
They're weak sooth they're weak and not because they are candy assed people and I am a Nietzchean God....
if the RINOs never you know attract the moderate democrats inasmuch as they may exist and never assert the absolute superiority of the American system as practiced prior to FDR how will we ever convince those people who never saw the "fully operational power of a functioning ARSENAL OF DEMOCRACY! industrial base there are alternatives?
How hard is it to look into the camera take the arrows and say, "look I am not gonna bullshit you that I can outgive this guy to you, I can't he'll write checks our great grandkids will have to cash but I can say I will empower you to run as hard and as far as you can......
if you don't believe in me I assure you I have total faith in you once freed of the illusory gains in minimum wage or pretending we are responsible with a 1/4 of what you earn to do mighty things.
I will die missing Reagan.....not because of the mythical Zombie man...
I know as a child I felt him look at me through that TV and say with his words and eyes "I love America and I love you and I know that the common American unfettered does MIGHTY THINGS!"
I miss him so much.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 05:57 PM (LRFds)
paper about "having to buy" insurance. And my not-so-young sister was
convinced her messiah was going to "give" her free healthcare. Because.
Lib tears would be sweet, if they weren't so bitter.
Is the younger generation of libbies really that dumb?
Posted by: Titanium at July 18, 2013 09:38 PM (mSmJM)
Cheer them up by telling them that for only $95 a year they can have the right to buy health insurance after they contract a dangerous disease or get in a horrible accident.
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 18, 2013 05:57 PM (UOjzE)
Posted by: loneduck at July 18, 2013 05:57 PM (trhwS)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 18, 2013 05:58 PM (RUw+I)
If only we could cut welfare, the modern plantation, black people might have a chance. The Founders' vision is really the answer.
Posted by: PJ at July 18, 2013 05:58 PM (ZWaLo)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 05:58 PM (bb5+k)
("The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls." )
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 09:52 PM (bb5+k)
--I am but have not posted there in ages. Also, right now there's some fuckery with my Yahoo password and I can;t get to my e-mails.
Posted by: The Chicken at July 18, 2013 05:58 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: The knockout game at July 18, 2013 06:00 PM (6Njaa)
Any words I combine in any decent way are horde domain...God knows you people put up with my hundreds if not thousands of posts, that alone is pay.
My terror is that when I say Lockeian ideals I am sensing maybe 1/2 the nation has any idea what I am on about.
I am not a huge fan of Glenn Beck, but we need young people who get it to steal the concept of "teach ins" from the left because frankly our way of life will die if the masses don't relearn what makes us "us."
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 06:00 PM (LRFds)
But it does make him The Green Hornet's chauffeur.
Posted by: Low Information Voter at July 18, 2013 06:01 PM (uLzrM)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 06:01 PM (bb5+k)
sven, someone told Mitt Romney it was a good idea to formulate and present a 59-point plan.
Someone advised Romney to pick Paul Ryan.
Someone told Romney to not bring up Cash For Clunkers or Solyndra.
Someone advised Romney not to bring up gas and unemployment.
Someone advised Romney to take a knee after the first debate and coast until election day.
I think if we scratch that someone an Obama voter will be revealed.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 18, 2013 06:02 PM (ZgBZU)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 06:06 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Cato at July 18, 2013 06:08 PM (EJrVv)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 18, 2013 06:08 PM (X4HxX)
Posted by: UWP at July 18, 2013 06:09 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 06:09 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Cato at July 18, 2013 06:10 PM (EJrVv)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 06:16 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 06:17 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 06:19 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 06:21 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 06:23 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at July 18, 2013 06:25 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: phunctor at July 18, 2013 06:40 PM (FMsYN)
Posted by: azjaeger at July 18, 2013 06:43 PM (niWgN)
http://tinyurl.com/orwppfs
Posted by: caustic at July 18, 2013 07:16 PM (/b8+5)
Here's a clip of the gigantic Ford River Rouge plant in the 1930s -- by far the biggest in the world. You youngsters should see it to get the magnitude of the destruction that has brought all this down.
http://tinyurl.com/lt2eg9l
Ford, Chrysler, GM: they powered the Arsenal of Democracy in World War II. Look up the figures and realize What We Were, and cry for what we've become.
Posted by: Beverly at July 18, 2013 07:18 PM (KOAKM)
You are absolutely correct and to my point.
These kids have NO IDEA what thieves the people their teachers have enabled and how much they have torn the economy asunder.
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Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at July 18, 2013 08:14 PM (01sLu)
"25 Reasons Why Detroit Is On The Verge Of An Epic Comeback"
http://tinyurl.com/kb7573r
Posted by: caustic at July 18, 2013 08:29 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at July 18, 2013 08:43 PM (01sLu)
http://tinyurl.com/m7om4p8
Detroit Files Chapter 9 Bankruptcy; Oakland, LA, Others on Deck; Pension Promises vs. Bondholders in Spotlight; The Bright Side
http://tinyurl.com/mma7ft7
Posted by: caustic at July 18, 2013 09:55 PM (/b8+5)
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Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at July 19, 2013 04:20 AM (01sLu)
Remember when 0b0z0 went after Romney over Detroit?
Is this just a first step for NY, LA, Chicago or other dem controlled cities or even states?
Posted by: Toronto Gal at July 19, 2013 07:44 AM (n39ll)
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