July 18, 2013
— Pixy Misa It's the largest municipal bankruptcy in US history.
You can read more about it here.
The Motor City faces $20 billion of long-term liabilities. The Wall Street Journal's Matt Dillon says those holding onto $11 billion in unsecured debt are basically staring into the abyss, facing the prospect of getting next to nothing from the city's obligations.The pension funds want to block Orr's attempt to drastically reduce the amount of benefits owed to current and former city workers.
Apropos of nothing, the last time Detroit had a Republican Mayor was 51 years ago.
[Update] In completely unrelated news, they're remaking Robocop. Is this Chapter 9 bankruptcy just a creative marketing ploy by MGM?
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Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 12:17 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 18, 2013 12:18 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 18, 2013 12:18 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 18, 2013 12:18 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:18 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2013 12:19 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: The Detroit Government at July 18, 2013 12:19 PM (v1mq9)
Posted by: Pat Sajak at July 18, 2013 12:19 PM (oATMN)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 12:19 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2013 12:19 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:19 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 18, 2013 12:19 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Mallfly at July 18, 2013 12:19 PM (bJm7W)
hey don't look now but my home region of my home state thinks the Detroit model is paradise.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 12:20 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Clownf*cker at July 18, 2013 12:20 PM (CGjum)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2013 12:20 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:20 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: @SOEarpiece at July 18, 2013 12:20 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: wooga at July 18, 2013 12:20 PM (myr0b)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 18, 2013 12:20 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: fluffy at July 18, 2013 12:21 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2013 12:21 PM (SxbfN)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 18, 2013 12:21 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 18, 2013 04:19 PM (0HooB)
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: The RNC at July 18, 2013 12:21 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:22 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:22 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: The Greater Detroit Visitors Bureau at July 18, 2013 12:22 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Detroit at July 18, 2013 12:22 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at July 18, 2013 12:23 PM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:24 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: Khan Noonien Math at July 18, 2013 12:24 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:24 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 18, 2013 12:26 PM (a3iAA)
Posted by: President Barack Hussein Obama at July 18, 2013 12:26 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:26 PM (mCNwt)
51 If Detroit had a vagina, it would be closed for remodeling.
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 04:24 PM (mCNwt)
Well if it did they couldn't be anymore F**ked.
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at July 18, 2013 12:27 PM (MnSla)
Posted by: The Old Man, CEO of Omni Consumer Products at July 18, 2013 12:27 PM (a3iAA)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2013 12:27 PM (SxbfN)
Which oddly sorta sucks for those idiots who leveraged their assets into tax free munis on this shitheap since they can't really force the city to liquidate assets past a point...
REALLY shitty.....I do wonder if the city will have to legit auction off sections of eminent domained land?
Cleveland by the way did not use Chapter 9 on its default when I was 6.
Detroit come on down!
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 12:27 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: NSA Agent #334-OPQ at July 18, 2013 12:27 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 12:28 PM (8sCoq)
>>>I'll do far worse than kill you. I've hurt you. And I wish to go on...
hurting you. I shall leave you as you left me ... Marooned
for all eternity, in the center of a dead city... buried alive. Buried alive.
O hay thats cool you reminded me becoz Ricardo Montalban *always* reminds me of Mr. Peanut becoz I figger thats how Mr. Peanut talks, right? He's like "Rich, Corinthian Toffee-covered Peanuts mmmm-Hmmm" anyway was looking for a costume for the kid and we settled on *that*.
Not the buried alive shit. The Mr. Peanut. Maybe a tux onesie, IDK
Posted by: Bigby's Invisible Hands at July 18, 2013 12:29 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Mallfly at July 18, 2013 12:29 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2013 12:29 PM (SxbfN)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 18, 2013 12:30 PM (a3iAA)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:30 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: tony redenzo at July 18, 2013 12:30 PM (LwRkC)
Posted by: Francis Ford Coppolla at July 18, 2013 12:30 PM (jfUIE)
Posted by: yinzer at July 18, 2013 12:31 PM (/Mla1)
Posted by: redguy at July 18, 2013 12:31 PM (oqvI4)
Posted by: yinzer at July 18, 2013 12:32 PM (/Mla1)
Posted by: tommylotto at July 18, 2013 12:32 PM (A3a8d)
Posted by: JamesT at July 18, 2013 12:32 PM (H5spP)
Posted by: redguy at July 18, 2013 12:33 PM (oqvI4)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 12:33 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 12:33 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: wiserbud at July 18, 2013 12:34 PM (WCe8r)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2013 12:34 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 12:34 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 18, 2013 04:26 PM (a3iAA)
The city may cease to exist, but not the people. They will screw up wherever they go.
Posted by: KG at July 18, 2013 12:34 PM (p7BzH)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 12:34 PM (+98Gb)
For EC, someone <> Victoria
http://en.bijin-snap.com/2013/07/19/no-952/
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 12:34 PM (zXm5+)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 18, 2013 12:34 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: Democrat Party at July 18, 2013 12:34 PM (obXkJ)
Posted by: Obi Wan Kenobi at July 18, 2013 12:34 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada (This Can't be My Planet. Stop fooling around you guys) at July 18, 2013 12:34 PM (jopHG)
Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at July 18, 2013 12:35 PM (uLzrM)
Who would have thought those Robo Cop movies were right all along.
Posted by: Johnnyreb at July 18, 2013 12:35 PM (cDr8Y)
Posted by: DanInMN at July 18, 2013 12:35 PM (XqeyF)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2013 12:35 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 18, 2013 12:35 PM (t3Yuc)
I don't know how the fuck I got the date wrong on it and the story of LA both wrong.....
//K Reese
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 12:35 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 18, 2013 12:36 PM (VtjlW)
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.
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In Detroit... that would be urban renewal.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 18, 2013 12:36 PM (nELVU)
Posted by: Steve Cohen (D) at July 18, 2013 12:36 PM (mCNwt)
/snark
Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2013 12:36 PM (8ifMA)
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 18, 2013 12:36 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 12:36 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: EC at July 18, 2013 12:36 PM (EdT+4)
Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at July 18, 2013 12:36 PM (uLzrM)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 12:36 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 12:36 PM (zXm5+)
You have a rare grasp of the conspiratorial mind.....
come sit at my side...
//Barry Tiberius Obama
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 12:36 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:36 PM (mCNwt)
>>$11B unsecured...some folks are not even gonna get some lube when they get reamed.
.
.One expects that level of debt from a State, but from a city? The City Unions in Detroit are in for a world of learnin up real quick. And it is gonna hurt.
Posted by: Johnnyreb at July 18, 2013 12:37 PM (cDr8Y)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 18, 2013 12:37 PM (a3iAA)
Posted by: Warthog at July 18, 2013 12:37 PM (WDySP)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 18, 2013 12:37 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 18, 2013 12:37 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 04:34 PM (8sCoq)
And your first thought is to come post over in this thread, too? Come on, son!
Posted by: red sweater at July 18, 2013 12:37 PM (oATMN)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 12:37 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: L, elle at July 18, 2013 12:38 PM (0PiQ4)
And hopefully the pervbots from AX will be hunted down and shunned.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 12:38 PM (zXm5+)
Posted by: David at July 18, 2013 12:38 PM (UtRhK)
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 18, 2013 12:38 PM (v1mq9)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 18, 2013 12:38 PM (0HooB)
we should cede it to Canada...
that'd rub salt in the wound when they had it hustling and bustling....
speaking of which
*note to self buy 1$ house in Detroit as "retirement" address for refugee status*
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 12:39 PM (LRFds)
The other two are in draft with comments saved and will be published in a bit.
Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 12:39 PM (/IWYB)
'Cause it is, racist from top to bottom, expecting Detroit to pay their bills.
Also: Imported from Detroit-- and coming soon to all of America.
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 18, 2013 12:39 PM (VjL9S)
Posted by: the Cohen post at July 18, 2013 04:38 PM (omBWL)
Smells like fish and sweat sock
Posted by: S. Cohen at July 18, 2013 12:39 PM (32Ze2)
If you owned the Detroit Redwings or Lions Or Tigers (oh my), would you be thinking about moving your team to another city?
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 12:39 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: those guys who can fold Space at July 18, 2013 12:39 PM (omBWL)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 18, 2013 12:39 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 12:40 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at July 18, 2013 12:40 PM (kqqGm)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 12:40 PM (zXm5+)
White people move out: White Flight!
White people move in: Gentrification!
White people stay put: Unwelcoming bubble!
It's almost like "my people" can do no right.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2013 12:40 PM (8ifMA)
Posted by: RS at July 18, 2013 12:40 PM (YAGV/)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2013 12:40 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Hostess at July 18, 2013 12:40 PM (MMC8r)
I sort of "lost time" (I had no idea it had been two hours, I thought it was one hour) since the last post, and I think drew and ben both noticed and tried to get something up, at the same time I realized it had been a very long time, and so bang, three posts in the span of five minutes.
Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 12:40 PM (/IWYB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 18, 2013 12:40 PM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 18, 2013 12:40 PM (a3iAA)
No wonder the unions are askeerd of Ocare. They're finding that the whirlwind is stronger than they bargained for.
Posted by: Soona at July 18, 2013 12:40 PM (24ag1)
Posted by: S. Cohen at July 18, 2013 12:40 PM (32Ze2)
So there's always guilt by Republican Proximity
Posted by: RiverC, White Chocolate Emancipator at July 18, 2013 12:40 PM (El+h4)
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 18, 2013 04:38 PM (v1mq9)
Don't worry. LA's time is coming.
For the bankruptcy I mean.
Posted by: Jollyroger at July 18, 2013 12:40 PM (t06LC)
Big Estate Sale - Old bonds, stained glass, copper, steel, something for everybody. This weekend at old Mr. Detroit's house, take a right at Lansing, you can't miss it. Everything priced to move, pennies on the dollar.
Don't miss this one. Cash only, NO CREDIT. All sales final.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 18, 2013 12:40 PM (4+FWp)
Posted by: RWC at July 18, 2013 12:41 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: puddleglum at July 18, 2013 12:41 PM (VVUvi)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 12:41 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:41 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at July 18, 2013 12:41 PM (BQ10H)
"let?"
At least I know the correct correct brackets to use when I'm here....
Posted by: wiserbud at July 18, 2013 12:41 PM (WCe8r)
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My son #2 is visiting my brother in San Diego. They have tickets. Ive been calling it the Nerd Herd Convention.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 18, 2013 12:41 PM (nELVU)
@158
I think I could buy it. But why piss away $15 on something other than alcohol or a lapdance?
Posted by: Jollyroger at July 18, 2013 12:42 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: zsasz at July 18, 2013 12:42 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Ian S. at July 18, 2013 12:42 PM (B/VB5)
Posted by: Detroit resident at July 18, 2013 12:42 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada (This Can't be My Planet. Stop fooling around you guys) at July 18, 2013 12:42 PM (jopHG)
And hopefully the pervbots from AX will be hunted down and shunned.
Squibob the Younger is there shooting video. He supposed to be shooting at the UbiSoft booth today. Look him up.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at July 18, 2013 12:42 PM (kqqGm)
Posted by: loneduck at July 18, 2013 12:42 PM (trhwS)
Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2013 12:42 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Jack Nine at July 18, 2013 12:42 PM (nsg2T)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:42 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: ace at July 18, 2013 04:40 PM (/IWYB)
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Coming soon: POSTNADO!
Posted by: Soona at July 18, 2013 12:42 PM (24ag1)
Posted by: ejo at July 18, 2013 12:43 PM (GXvSO)
well the hidden phase 1 of the plan is to change my name legally to Jorge Corzine....
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 12:43 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: RWC at July 18, 2013 12:43 PM (fWAjv)
Don't miss this one. Cash only, NO CREDIT. All sales final.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
..........
Sorry.. all the copper piping has been removed long ago..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 18, 2013 12:43 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 12:43 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: T. at July 18, 2013 12:43 PM (DOO4j)
Posted by: Anthony Weiner at July 18, 2013 12:43 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: zsasz at July 18, 2013 12:44 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 12:44 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 12:44 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Clint Eastwood at July 18, 2013 12:44 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: Lauren at July 18, 2013 12:44 PM (ELdpj)
Look in deference to the raw volume of my offered idiocy here I just tend to ride the waves of the posts....
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 12:44 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2013 12:44 PM (SxbfN)
Posted by: L, elle at July 18, 2013 12:45 PM (0PiQ4)
it's gotta be worth a small fortune in scrap metal
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 18, 2013 12:45 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:45 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: @AuthorLMendez at July 18, 2013 12:45 PM (yAor6)
Worst of all, SDCC has now become Corporate Con. Its no longer as fun as it used to be because it has become Hollywood's pet con.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 12:46 PM (zXm5+)
Hell in Detroit a riot is a vibrant sign of community cohesion...
I'd pay to have them do it.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 12:46 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 12:46 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at July 18, 2013 12:46 PM (yMSN1)
it's gotta be worth a small fortune in scrap metal
The horde could purchase a city block and build a fortress. Fortress of Moronitude!
Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2013 12:47 PM (8ifMA)
If someone offered you Detroit, would you take it?
Yes. Take it. It will be fun.
Posted by: The EPA at July 18, 2013 12:47 PM (8ZskC)
So..
Is this it? is this when we'll look back and say "Yeah, that's when the burning times began."
Assuming Obama doesn't bail them out (a big if I might add, a big one) how long until IL looks over and goes "yeah we want some of that too."
BAM, $120 billion (Detroit+IL), gone. Double the sequester just *poof* disappeared.
Meanwhile, all of us states with Balanced Budget Amendments will suffer.
Posted by: tsrblke at July 18, 2013 12:47 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 12:47 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: The Narrative at July 18, 2013 12:47 PM (HEo6y)
For all of you keeping score at home...
--Osama is dead, (so we are told),
--GM is alive, (sort of but not really -- it's more a zombie corporation being treated like Weekend At Bernie's' Bernie by UAW and Obama)
-- Detroit goes tits up
Obama 2016! Obama 2016!
Posted by: lynrd sythsayer with a girl named Linda Lou at July 18, 2013 12:47 PM (DlaLh)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:47 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 12:48 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 18, 2013 12:48 PM (a3iAA)
quick tell the nice people what you'll do if they dare refire the auto industry to capacity EPA...
it's the punchline....no really YOU are the star of this you cocksucker.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 12:48 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at July 18, 2013 12:48 PM (EGPJQ)
That's certainly one interpretation.
Posted by: AllenG
Hey, I didn't tell him to take it down. I merely commented about it in the most obnoxious manner.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 18, 2013 12:48 PM (xvZYu)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2013 12:48 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 18, 2013 12:48 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: L, elle at July 18, 2013 12:48 PM (0PiQ4)
They told me if I voted for Rombley that shit like this would happen, and goddamn it they were right.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 18, 2013 12:48 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 04:46 PM (zXm5+)
:'(
Sorry to hear that.
The wife and I had to grow up, tighten our belts and give up PAX this year (after 2 straight years of attending).
I won't miss shelling out the $1500-2k to have that vacation. I will miss the vacation part though.
We lived large, first year since we got married we won't have a big fancy vacation. (But we own a house, tradeoffs)
Posted by: tsrblke at July 18, 2013 12:49 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Steve Cohen (D) at July 18, 2013 12:49 PM (mCNwt)
Yes. We can't let foreigners get in on the good deal that is failed junk bonds.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 18, 2013 12:49 PM (4+FWp)
Posted by: MacGruber at July 18, 2013 12:49 PM (xvtYZ)
And this weekend - RED2 and RIPD. Ready the super large bucket of popcorn. The barrel of pop. Feed the Ravage and emus. And enjoy.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 12:49 PM (zXm5+)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 12:49 PM (+98Gb)
Detroit Files For Chapter 9 Bankruptcy
I would say "Let it burn", but the residents have already done a pretty good job of it.
Posted by: Armando at July 18, 2013 12:49 PM (5iuEW)
Crushed crack pipes underfoot. It's a beautiful sound, like walking in fresh snow.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2013 12:49 PM (8ifMA)
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 18, 2013 12:50 PM (v1mq9)
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 18, 2013 04:38 PM (v1mq9)
Now that's something I didn't think of: What happens to the Lions if Detroit becomes extinct? Lower Michigan Large Cats just doesn't have the same ring to it...
Posted by: joncelli at July 18, 2013 12:50 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 12:51 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 12:51 PM (+98Gb)
This will sound extremely racist, but Detroit was the first major American city to have a black mayor, and he couldn't have been a worse one - Coleman Young. He proceeded to turn the city into one giant patronage and spoils machine for his friends, while implementing every stupid liberal policy you can think of to "help his people." Smart white AND black people started fleeing the city, and it's been straight downhill ever since.
This has little to do with the decline of the auto industry in the 1970s and everything to do with a corrupt black city machine that looted the city treasury and scared away businesses and better off citizens who could afford to flee.
Posted by: rockmom at July 18, 2013 12:51 PM (Q4elb)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:51 PM (mCNwt)
Does it still smell like rutting goats?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2013 12:51 PM (8ifMA)
Posted by: EC at July 18, 2013 12:51 PM (EdT+4)
Posted by: President Barack Hussein Obama at July 18, 2013 04:26 PM (QF8uk)
There's a bumper sticker
Posted by: Shannow at July 18, 2013 12:51 PM (QFC9T)
it's the punchline....no really YOU are the star of this you cocksucker.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 04:48 PM (LRFds)
It's been pointed out that if the New World were discovered today, there is no possible way that anything useful would ever have been permitted to be built on it. No swamp could be drained, no road could be built.
Same goes for the ruins of Detroit.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 18, 2013 12:52 PM (8ZskC)
If you speculate in muni bonds, you might have bought them for pennies on the dollar the way Jon Corzine did with EU debt thinking there would be a bailout.
and. lastly, I think all the auto assembly plants that remain in operation are in the suburbs, not in Detroit proper.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 18, 2013 12:52 PM (bZLLe)
Posted by: Clint Eastwood at July 18, 2013 12:52 PM (WmLrU)
Posted by: jakeman at July 18, 2013 12:52 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 04:36 PM (/PCJa)
Where you going to be at?
Posted by: Red Shirt at July 18, 2013 12:52 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: UWP at July 18, 2013 12:53 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 18, 2013 12:53 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 12:53 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:53 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: A Conservative Teacher at July 18, 2013 12:53 PM (idosS)
Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2013 12:53 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 12:53 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2013 12:53 PM (SxbfN)
Posted by: RWC at July 18, 2013 12:53 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at July 18, 2013 12:53 PM (29vnO)
Were I a wiser man or half the rhetorician your namesake was I'd have a pithy quip or fable about the idiot who raised a Tyrannosaurus Rex and got devoured....
but I don't.
Those idiot bastard motherfuckers built the bomb that obliterated their economy by MAXIMUM DONKEY!@DumbFuck.com
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 12:53 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: puddleglum at July 18, 2013 12:54 PM (VVUvi)
"So what's the equivalency between a Detroit Muni and a wheelbarrow full of Confederate graybacks.... "
There isn't any. At least Confederate money is collectable and worth something on the open market.
Posted by: Steve the Pirate at July 18, 2013 12:54 PM (Fl2Di)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 04:51 PM (/PCJa)
My understanding (low though it may be) from the local news around here is that IL proper may be worse off than Chicago.
Residents of that horrid state (but S. IL people, good gun loving people) tell me that the Chicago Machine has stacked the system so S. IL basically funds Chicago, and Chi-town has offloaded most of it's responsibilities to the state (hence the problem.)
Again, that's IIRC.
Posted by: tsrblke at July 18, 2013 12:54 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2013 12:55 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2013 12:55 PM (SxbfN)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 12:55 PM (zXm5+)
Posted by: RWC at July 18, 2013 12:55 PM (fWAjv)
Socialize risk; privatize profit.
It's the Chicago way!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2013 12:55 PM (gqgiP)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 12:55 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: DuPage County at July 18, 2013 12:55 PM (Ec6wH)
It's got great highway infrastructure with both 95 and 85 between them.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 18, 2013 04:53 PM (ZPrif)
Goddamn George Boooosh.... What can't he do?
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 18, 2013 12:55 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 18, 2013 12:55 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: Shark Cracka! at July 18, 2013 12:56 PM (cjFRv)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 12:56 PM (zXm5+)
I think Detroit's most valuable asset right now is its a holding pen for the worst dregs of the country. Anyone productive left long ago.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2013 12:56 PM (8ifMA)
Seriously, no really seriously, don't you just pack up and leave at this point, why would the cops and fireman even show up to work, it seems the writing is on the wall here (over by the graffiti giraffe).
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 18, 2013 12:57 PM (4+FWp)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 18, 2013 04:54 PM (OWjjx)
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*** dials Russian mafia "friend" ***
Posted by: Pavel Datsyuk at July 18, 2013 12:57 PM (nELVU)
"I'll buy that for a dollar" was positively prophetic in Robocop!
Posted by: H Badger at July 18, 2013 12:57 PM (n/0Nw)
Obama, Geither and Bernanke have a plan to save Detroit, I assume, and it'll look something like this:
1. Print more $$.
2. Buy all of Detroit's debt.
3. Sell new Detroit bonds for a 1/1000 of face value
4. Make politicians and cronies richer.
5. Claim success, wait for applause and awards.
And after all that, Detroit will be worse than ever and the U.S. will have more debt and a more devalued dollar. This is how Obamanomics.
Posted by: lynrd sythsayer with a girl named Linda Lou at July 18, 2013 12:57 PM (LVtr+)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 12:58 PM (mCNwt)
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If someone offered you Detroit, would you take it?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 04:41 PM (/PCJa)
With or without the people?
/rayciss
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 18, 2013 12:58 PM (v3pYe)
less often heard was the follow up...
"where the hell is my change?"
*cue second laugh loop*
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 12:58 PM (LRFds)
I will admit, I'm looking forward to some Chef Charles pizza in ER.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 04:55 PM (/PCJa)
TC is a nice area, lots to do and see. Lots o wineries . Ive been thru ER, but never stopped.
Posted by: Red Shirt at July 18, 2013 12:58 PM (FIDMq)
It starts small. Individuals, then banks. Next comes small to medium sized towns. Now it's major metro areas.
The bubble may not burst, but it's definitely got a bad leak.
It's all coming down eventually. Sooner than I thought.
Posted by: Soona at July 18, 2013 12:58 PM (24ag1)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 18, 2013 04:55 PM (V1ZIU)
It is now.
We're about 20 minutes ahead of the real news.
I got several comments in before the news feed I had alerted me.
Posted by: tsrblke at July 18, 2013 12:58 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: City of Detroit at July 18, 2013 12:58 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: DrDrill at July 18, 2013 12:58 PM (sOFZs)
Posted by: The USDA at July 18, 2013 12:59 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, in his happy place at July 18, 2013 12:59 PM (zUi7I)
Unions taken care of along with well connected hacks no matter how much they stole
Bondholders? How does Obama's ass taste?
Posted by: kbdabear at July 18, 2013 12:59 PM (/9IC1)
Hint: trick question
If you traveled due south from Detroit what is the first foreign country you would hit?
Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2013 12:59 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Camden NJ at July 18, 2013 01:00 PM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: SavEcig at July 18, 2013 01:00 PM (zWaPh)
E Pluribus, Unum
Out of many, one.
Posted by: [/i] [/s] [/u] [/b] An Observation at July 18, 2013 01:00 PM (ylhEn)
readers of Monty's DOOM! classics will recall he and I had great mirth knowing this was coming if you were leveraged in TF Munis in Donk havens YOU WERE WRONG!
Come home Monty we need your glee in this hour of joy!
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:00 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: fluffy at July 18, 2013 01:01 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: BuddyPC at July 18, 2013 01:01 PM (jfUIE)
Just get it over with, we know it's coming. The only thing left to quibble about is the cost to taxpayers.
Posted by: NSA at July 18, 2013 01:01 PM (2mSdf)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 01:01 PM (/PCJa)
Dearborn?
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at July 18, 2013 01:01 PM (0It32)
Posted by: SFGoth at July 18, 2013 01:02 PM (c/ao8)
Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at July 18, 2013 01:02 PM (XvrTA)
"dem honkies shudda been all patriotik and jez send money anyway!"
//DD Jenital Urban Planner
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:02 PM (LRFds)
What could go wrong?
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 18, 2013 01:02 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: White Liberal at July 18, 2013 01:02 PM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at July 18, 2013 01:02 PM (BQ10H)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 01:02 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 18, 2013 04:57 PM (4+FWp)
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I do see an upside though. Hollywood could just set up remote cameras around the city, film a few days, and then release a series of post-apocolyptic movies.
Posted by: Soona at July 18, 2013 01:02 PM (24ag1)
Posted by: jakeman speaking on behalf of the PHX Yotes at July 18, 2013 01:03 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, in his happy place at July 18, 2013 01:03 PM (zUi7I)
Posted by: NSA at July 18, 2013 01:03 PM (2mSdf)
Liberal "10 Best Lists" wouldn't steer me wrong would they?
Posted by: kbdabear at July 18, 2013 01:03 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 18, 2013 01:03 PM (v1mq9)
Now you grasp why I am firmly in the 125mph cult...
these idiot kids can't use a combination of civics and math to extrapolate the answer.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:04 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 01:04 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at July 18, 2013 01:04 PM (IlZPo)
Stock footage calling.....insert Mutant Tribe 3^9 with sun coming from behind....roll 5
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:05 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 18, 2013 01:05 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 18, 2013 01:05 PM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 01:05 PM (zXm5+)
Wall off Detroit and charge admission for ghetto tourism. Europeans will love it.
Posted by: kwame kilpatrick at July 18, 2013 01:06 PM (LwRkC)
Everyone knows the blue model is where all the money in Amerika is h8er...
//Ezra "De" Klein
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:06 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 01:06 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Fritz at July 18, 2013 01:06 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: jakeman at July 18, 2013 01:06 PM (96M6e)
Alls I know is that the politicians, lobbyists, lawyers, and insiders will all come out of this a little bit richer.
Posted by: lynrd sythsayer with a girl named Linda Lou at July 18, 2013 01:07 PM (KeJAW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 05:04 PM (/PCJa)
Better watch it. She will start pronouncing Bexar county as Bex - ar .
Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2013 01:07 PM (m2CN7)
Its amazing what nuking Washington DC from orbit could do to change that mindset though.
Posted by: [/i] [/s] [/u] [/b] An Observation at July 18, 2013 01:07 PM (ylhEn)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, in his happy place at July 18, 2013 01:07 PM (zUi7I)
Like Jurassic Park. Giant wall, gates, vehicles on rails with armor, and the occasional white boy chained to a platform for bait.
Posted by: grognard at July 18, 2013 01:07 PM (/29Nl)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 05:04 PM (/PCJa)
Salt Saint Marie
Posted by: Red Shirt at July 18, 2013 01:07 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: blindside at July 18, 2013 01:07 PM (x7g7t)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 01:07 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 18, 2013 04:58 PM (OWjjx)
But they're borrowing to fund Chicago, purely Chicago. If the Downstaters had their way, I doubt it'd be such a big problem (not a non-issue but less)
Posted by: tsrblke at July 18, 2013 01:08 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 18, 2013 01:08 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 18, 2013 01:08 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 01:08 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: kwame kilpatrick at July 18, 2013 05:06 PM (LwRkC)
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Open up an armored tour-bus agency. The opportunities are endless.
Posted by: Soona at July 18, 2013 01:08 PM (24ag1)
"291 216
My response: Atlanta"
If da ATL is the answer, it must have been a pretty fucked-up question.
Posted by: Jaws at July 18, 2013 01:09 PM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: tont redenzo at July 18, 2013 01:09 PM (LwRkC)
Posted by: T. at July 18, 2013 01:09 PM (DOO4j)
I have this idea that I've been kicking around for a little while, but I don't know how it would work. Basically it's a remote vehicle that would be armored enough that it could go into super high-crime neighborhoods. Like a large heavy sphere that would have cameras in it.
You know how the rich used to pay to look at the crazy people in Bedlam. This is the same idea, but without the personal safety risk. I was even thinking you could put speakers in the thing so you could taunt gang members or whatnot. I think it would be wildly popular, and would be denounced by all the usual suspects. In other words, perfect.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2013 01:09 PM (8ifMA)
Huh, a few clicks later and I found a shard of the time machine...
Posted by: tsrblke at July 18, 2013 01:09 PM (GaqMa)
Well arguably Detroit would still exist...I mean you're never really "not an addict" but you'd have you know Travon Heights, Kawzme Kourt etc etc
Hell sell it to them that there be fo-ty mayuhs now....
to use Dedebonics
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:09 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at July 18, 2013 01:10 PM (XvrTA)
And I guaran-fickin-tee you Michael Moore has already tweeted blame to Roger Whoeverthefuck, GM, Reagan, and Bush for ruining Detroit.
Posted by: lynrd sythsayer with a girl named Linda Lou at July 18, 2013 01:10 PM (Y4TdB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 01:10 PM (zXm5+)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2013 01:10 PM (SxbfN)
Posted by: jakeman at July 18, 2013 01:10 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 01:11 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Fritz at July 18, 2013 01:11 PM (UzPAd)
1. Print more $$.
2. Buy all of Detroit's debt.
3. Sell new Detroit bonds for a 1/1000 of face value
4. Make politicians and cronies richer.
5. Claim success, wait for applause and awards.
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You forgot step #6. Get ready for California to follow suit.
Posted by: junior at July 18, 2013 01:11 PM (UWFpX)
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No..., Jewish..., uh.., or Hispanic..., wait, wait, I got it... Racist!
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 01:11 PM (aDwsi)
they need to learn to type trillion I think 20 billion will buy a loaf of bread at some point in my life
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:12 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: UWP at July 18, 2013 01:12 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: jakeman at July 18, 2013 05:06 PM (96M6e)
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Heh. Travyon City.
It's dead, Jim.
Posted by: Soona at July 18, 2013 01:12 PM (24ag1)
Posted by: bonhomme
Those Quadra-copters would work in a pinch. Besides, think of all the great footage of people throwing junk at them.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 18, 2013 01:12 PM (xvZYu)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2013 01:12 PM (SxbfN)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 01:12 PM (mCNwt)
"Also: the Charles Barkley story in the sidebar: Why do I think that's *not* the response the Media talking-heads were expecting?"
First Jimmy Carter and now the Round Mound of Rebound? Is this what going mad feels like?
I had no idea it'd tickle like this.
Posted by: Jaws at July 18, 2013 01:13 PM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 01:13 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: The Greys at July 18, 2013 01:14 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 18, 2013 01:14 PM (Ec6wH)
There's a store here in Arlington called "Cartridge World." I'm always sad that it's not an ammunition store.
Wicked! I lost my copy of "Asteroids."
Posted by: grognard at July 18, 2013 01:15 PM (/29Nl)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 01:15 PM (/PCJa)
I thought about that, and it's a great way to go. What's missing though is I want it to survive gunshots.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2013 01:15 PM (WhJf8)
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at July 18, 2013 01:15 PM (UlI/7)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 01:15 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 01:16 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: ejo at July 18, 2013 01:16 PM (GXvSO)
we call that "going over the bones" and no we don't really mean yours so much as "what's left to loot"
//OCP
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:16 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Soona at July 18, 2013 01:16 PM (24ag1)
Posted by: Arbalest at July 18, 2013 01:16 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 18, 2013 01:16 PM (mCNwt)
"Detroit man who ran for Congress, Detroit mayor accused of fraud in BP oil spill case"
Detroit Free Press, day before yesterday: http://tinyurl.com/oprmxew
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 01:16 PM (aDwsi)
"Tax-exempt Detroit general obligations that are backed by the cityÂ’s limited taxing power and mature in April 2015 traded June 10 at an average yield of 16.3 percent, data compiled by Bloomberg show. ThatÂ’s double levels from last month"
http://preview.tinyurl.com/kap9xdj
When 'creditors' are mentioned in the news, they mean hedge funds (like Corzine') and banks and retirement funds (like unions)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 18, 2013 01:16 PM (bZLLe)
Bah. I was hoping someone there could explain Star Raiders to me.
Posted by: grognard at July 18, 2013 01:17 PM (/29Nl)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 01:17 PM (/PCJa)
"Also: the Charles Barkley story in the sidebar: Why do I think that's *not* the response the Media talking-heads were expecting?"
First Jimmy Carter and now the Round Mound of Rebound? Is this what going mad feels like?
I had no idea it'd tickle like this.
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iirc, Sir Charles ran a few "tough on crime" ads back in the early '90s. Seeing him agreeing with the Zimmerman verdict doesn't really surprise me. There was also the sidebar link yesterday to a member of the King family agreeing with the verdict.
Posted by: junior at July 18, 2013 01:17 PM (UWFpX)
well as punishment I plan to have him advise targeted communities on gettingt eh Ogabecare subsidy...
//Bark
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:18 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Skip Tracer at July 18, 2013 01:18 PM (2+bRt)
xx
Oh, that's easy. "This has been directly caused by the WHITE residents who moved into the suburbs in the last 1960's because they are RACIST."
/um.. also... race riots in Detroit in late 60's, then uber corrupt black mayors since then. Riots-white flight-corrupt black liberals-bankruptcy.
Yep, that's a good summary of the past 50 years.
Posted by: Shibumi at July 18, 2013 01:18 PM (25HWz)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 18, 2013 05:10 PM (zXm5+)
That's a lot of movies.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 18, 2013 01:18 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: Louis C. Miriani at July 18, 2013 01:18 PM (yuTiW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 05:17 PM (/PCJa)
Isn't there some funkiness that these pensions will be covered by the federal government? A sort of Stupid FDIC for pensions? Or am I losing my mind?
Posted by: tsrblke at July 18, 2013 01:19 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: t-bird at July 18, 2013 01:19 PM (FcR7P)
I don't care what you say Detroit is only bankrupt because America is filled with racist white men.
Although I am fairly sure I saw a 4 million dollar ad by a company that received a taxpayer funded bailout telling me that Detroit was back... I suppose they just meant back in the red.
Posted by: Future Illegal Immigrant at July 18, 2013 01:19 PM (2XlH8)
Damn accountin' why de hell the positive be black and negative red and shit?
//DD Jenital CPA at large real large
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:19 PM (LRFds)
Now it just takes Democrats.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 18, 2013 01:19 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2013 01:19 PM (SxbfN)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 01:20 PM (/PCJa)
Ah Detroit, you shouldn't have spent all that money on robocop.
Posted by: caustic at July 18, 2013 01:20 PM (/b8+5)
I decree.... "Federal Bailouts for all types of government employees."
Posted by: Lord O, Preeezy for Life at July 18, 2013 01:20 PM (25HWz)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 01:20 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at July 18, 2013 01:21 PM (E8hSa)
East St Louis, my own Dayton Ohio, or perhaps cross fingers we can get an implosion in Blue Nebraska....
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:21 PM (LRFds)
I'm down for Baltimore. Who wants Philly?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2013 01:22 PM (WhJf8)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 01:22 PM (/PCJa)
Yeah the crisis is the incurred indebtedness...
the scam runs like this you have to leverage a 90,000 mortgage and they get 89.000 of it....
"ingenius"
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:22 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 05:20 PM (/PCJa)
Hella cheaper too! Think of the amount of money wasted(pocketed) by corruption and feelgoodery programs
Posted by: Red Shirt at July 18, 2013 01:22 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2013 01:22 PM (SxbfN)
Trust me I researched it...
the debt load is horrid...
of course the neat thing would be dissolution making it go away but I digress...
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:23 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: UWP at July 18, 2013 01:23 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 01:24 PM (/PCJa)
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There's a new SimCity game? Well, there goes my life...
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 05:15 PM (/PCJa)
The new Sim City game had serious issues, FYI.
Things like all your fire trucks try to go to one single fire, get stuck, and your city burns down even though you placed a ton of fire departments.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 18, 2013 01:24 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 18, 2013 01:24 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at July 18, 2013 01:24 PM (+KfUs)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 18, 2013 01:25 PM (a3iAA)
not yet...but soon.
//The NEA realizing it's screwed....
White Flight 2-the black middle class
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:25 PM (LRFds)
well I don't think we can say Barky isn't a man of action. Romney only SAID let Detroit go bankrupt. Obama actually did it!
Posted by: Future Illegal Immigrant at July 18, 2013 01:25 PM (2XlH8)
The new Sim City game had serious issues, FYI.
Things like all your fire trucks try to go to one single fire, get stuck, and your city burns down even though you placed a ton of fire departments.
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Doesn't it also require you to be on-line when you play? Or did they remove that "feature"?
Posted by: junior at July 18, 2013 01:25 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: caustic at July 18, 2013 01:25 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 18, 2013 01:25 PM (l3vZN)
@AllenG,
True, but I highly doubt the entire 20billion is pensions (but I could be wrong.) 11 billion is unsecured creditors (I'm not sure which side of that Pensions are on, but I doubt it's both.)
Which implies at least that they're looking at an upper limit of $11 billion in pension shortfall.
Not that it's insubstantial at that, just that I could still see a Uncle Sugar Bail out.
Posted by: tsrblke at July 18, 2013 01:26 PM (GaqMa)
Wait, I'm someone now?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2013 01:26 PM (WhJf8)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at July 18, 2013 01:26 PM (+KfUs)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at July 18, 2013 01:26 PM (RXQ2T)
Posted by: H Badger at July 18, 2013 01:26 PM (n/0Nw)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2013 01:26 PM (SxbfN)
Yeah, but it'll cost you $200k for the superfund cleanup of hazardous crackhouse chemicals.
Posted by: Fritz at July 18, 2013 01:26 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at July 18, 2013 01:27 PM (+KfUs)
Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2013 01:27 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at July 18, 2013 01:27 PM (+KfUs)
Posted by: caustic at July 18, 2013 01:27 PM (/b8+5)
PBGC
Posted by: Louis C. Miriani at July 18, 2013 01:27 PM (yuTiW)
Posted by: H Badger at July 18, 2013 01:28 PM (n/0Nw)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 05:24 PM (/PCJa)
Sim City is a miserable way to actually project cities.
Considering you as city planner put down all the businesses (rather than them coming in themselves.)
That's why the taxing structure was fucked up. It was modified Socialism.
Posted by: tsrblke at July 18, 2013 01:28 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2013 01:29 PM (SxbfN)
Posted by: caustic at July 18, 2013 05:27 PM (/b8+5)
Too late.
I was already reading an article about that.
IIRC, many of them tried to buy up plots and do that hipster "urban farming" thing.
But blight is blight, and eventually they looked around and went "I'm gonna die" and bolted.
Posted by: tsrblke at July 18, 2013 01:30 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 18, 2013 01:30 PM (a3iAA)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 18, 2013 01:31 PM (l3vZN)
Why do you pay attention to the mote around Detroit, but ignore the beam in DC's?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2013 01:31 PM (45N4D)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 18, 2013 01:31 PM (0HooB)
I've always wondered why some billionaire hasn't just bought the entire place. "oh, hey, nice yacht you got there, Bill. I own Detroit."
Then I remember what killed Detroit in the first place and realize why no one has.
Posted by: wiserbud at July 18, 2013 01:31 PM (WCe8r)
Look Jinx Paradise costs money, how the hell could you live in the Garden of Eden known as Detroit and begrudge us 5.3% of your swag?
//Mik'Al Moor
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:32 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 18, 2013 01:32 PM (a3iAA)
Here, CSmonitor about the Detroit hipsters from October of 2012 (I know it's old). http://tinyurl.com/nr6gmvj
I recall seeing a followup somewhere of "that didn't work out."
But it may have been my imagination.
Posted by: tsrblke at July 18, 2013 01:32 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Dondi at July 18, 2013 01:32 PM (V1ZIU)
Yeah because what I've always wanted was the entire cast of extras for the remake of "Reds" as my tenants...
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:33 PM (LRFds)
Hmm, a new Moron Startup company concept
MOATS "Я" US.
I don't expect a problem with having armed equipment operators!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 18, 2013 01:33 PM (XdnQT)
Back around the same time that Obama got elected into office (I don't remember whether it was before or after), The Weekly Standard had an article on their website talking about what a hell hole Detroit has become. It was perfectly clear just why homes were going for so little (the $200 price is about the same as it was then).
It caused me no small amount of amusement when one of the car companies ran an ad talking about how their cars were "Detroit Tough" or something like that.
Posted by: junior at July 18, 2013 01:35 PM (UWFpX)
one cop sounds like Tone' Loc
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:35 PM (LRFds)
Then I remember what killed Detroit in the first place and realize why no one has.
What killed Detroit is terrible, toxic politics and people who believed those politics would benefit them. That's why God made the Israelites walk around in the desert for forty years. They had to be purged of those toxic traditions and thoughts before they could enter the promised land.
If you could buy the land and remove the people harmlessly, I don't see why buying the city would be a bad idea.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2013 01:36 PM (44jNh)
Somehow, this is racist. AG Holder should have DoJ look into it.
He should set up an anonymous tip line.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 18, 2013 01:37 PM (0IhFx)
Posted by: Dondi at July 18, 2013 05:32 PM (V1ZIU)
While you're at it, why not give all the residents advanced degrees in computer science or engineering, and presto, a modern workforce arising from the ashes of Detroit!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 18, 2013 01:37 PM (XdnQT)
I believe people imprint parts of their anima on the places they touch....
I'm not sure we have enough of Adam Smith Holy Water to cleanse that cesspool.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:38 PM (LRFds)
Oh, they would be evicted immediately.
Posted by: wiserbud at July 18, 2013 01:39 PM (WCe8r)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 18, 2013 01:39 PM (eMPxS)
Exactly. And the city would be taxing the living shit out of you to keep that gravy train running.
So buying it would be a bad idea in the long run.
Posted by: wiserbud at July 18, 2013 01:41 PM (WCe8r)
now it'll be non-paralyzed people with IQs over 40 flight....
that ought to net some lucky town 5 people.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 18, 2013 01:41 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 18, 2013 01:43 PM (eMPxS)
Now it just takes Democrats.
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I am stealing that....
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 01:43 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, proud OCP stockholder at July 18, 2013 01:46 PM (zUi7I)
Oh! Got it!
Amendment to the Gang of Eight immigration bill - All illegals who gain citizenship as a result of the Gang of Eight bill have to live in Detroit for their first ten years of citizenship.
Posted by: junior at July 18, 2013 01:47 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Sophie13 at July 18, 2013 01:48 PM (9HFdN)
While you're at it, why not give all the residents advanced degrees in computer science or engineering, and presto, a modern workforce arising from the ashes of Detroit!
Posted by: Hrothgar
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I say that we should work a full-on Berlin Airlift. We can air-drop great bags of money, the above-mentioned degrees, and just for good measure, several thousand tons of feel-good, self-esteem, and 3.0 GPA's
That ought to do it. Of course the rest of us will have to pony up all of the above because Social Justice.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 01:50 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Armando at July 18, 2013 04:49 PM (5iuEW)
++++++++++++++
Detroit: Where rioting means burning the same burnt out buildings you've been burning since 1967.
(Not kidding)
Posted by: Sophie13 at July 18, 2013 01:50 PM (9HFdN)
Posted by: paul krugman at July 18, 2013 01:50 PM (4eNxd)
Posted by: Iblis at July 18, 2013 01:51 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Sophie13 at July 18, 2013 01:51 PM (9HFdN)
Oops!
Posted by: Sophie13
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Barky appearing at your factory or plant is the kiss of death.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 01:51 PM (aDwsi)
I say that
we should work a full-on Berlin Airlift. We can air-drop great bags of
money, the above-mentioned degrees, and just for good measure, several
thousand tons of feel-good, self-esteem, and 3.0 GPA's
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Wouldn't it be easier to just airlift all of the residents to Berlin? Tell the Germans that if they don't accept the new refugees, then they're obviously racist and we'll send Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson over to pay them a visit.
Posted by: junior at July 18, 2013 01:52 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Armando at July 18, 2013 04:49 PM (5iuEW)
++++++++++++++
Detroit: Where rioting means burning the same burnt out buildings you've been burning since 1967.
(Not kidding)
Posted by: Sophie13
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I regard the destruction of some very fine, old, neighborhoods/houses one of the great tragedies. Some wonderful architecture and craftsmanship indifferently destroyed by a swinish multitude of barbarians.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 18, 2013 01:55 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Bill H at July 18, 2013 01:58 PM (3sZO1)
+++++++++++++++++++++
Agreed. I've posted some incredible photos here: http://tinyurl.com/bset4kd
Posted by: Sophie13 at July 18, 2013 02:01 PM (9HFdN)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 18, 2013 02:03 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: drawandstrike at July 18, 2013 02:05 PM (VP4GI)
Posted by: junior
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Ich bin ein extortionist.
Posted by: Jesse Jackson at July 18, 2013 02:06 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: I'm lighting my torch now... at July 18, 2013 02:09 PM (ULH4o)
OMG. So freaking hysterical....
... and true.
Posted by: shibumi at July 18, 2013 02:27 PM (25HWz)
Posted by: Ministry of Truth at July 18, 2013 02:28 PM (25HWz)
(Not kidding)
xxx
We care about the planet and are doing our best to be "green!!"
Posted by: Arsonists Local #1 at July 18, 2013 02:29 PM (25HWz)
Posted by: Veritas at July 18, 2013 03:00 PM (ipirO)
Posted by: Sophie13 at July 18, 2013 03:57 PM (9HFdN)
Posted by: Bill H at July 18, 2013 04:47 PM (3sZO1)
Posted by: Bill H at July 18, 2013 04:51 PM (3sZO1)
Posted by: cormac_mcroadie at July 18, 2013 06:04 PM (cG4Ti)
Posted by: Reverend Tol Yo So at July 18, 2013 07:55 PM (xtQpI)
"Somewhere, Rudyard Kipling smiles."
It's Heaven. No one who wrote such tremendously truthful poetry and prose could be anywhere else.
Posted by: mac at July 19, 2013 02:15 AM (TMssB)
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 18, 2013 04:33 PM (/PCJa)
Like this comment, you are a little late to that party, pal. Detroit makes Carthage look like an example of urban renewal.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 19, 2013 06:06 AM (hLRSq)
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