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December 06, 2013

12/6 ONT-draft
— Open Blogger

So here we are. Friday. Ill met in Lankhmar, we have returned from our weekly grind at the Hobo-hunt to find all our fucks have been taken from us, and so, we simply have no more to give.

Having found myself at the very summit, please allow me, Sensei krak/t, in my Obammic benefecience to enlighten you all in the way of Lettin' it Burn.

I'll begin with a video parable, wherein Obama is Kiai Master Rykerin, and his students being tossed around like so many straw-men are the media and his fawning public.

Master Obama is the master of magic. Magic words. Magic executive pen. Magic unicorns spraying the benighted hinterlands with magical skittle sputum falling like mana from their bedazzled (and, dare I say, magical) hind-mouths.

And Master Obama can do no wrong. He is invincible. He is the closest thing to a deity that has walked this earth in at least 2000 years.

He is, as Ace mentioned during his long-overdue review of Raiders of the Lost Ark earlier today, the Leading Man in firm possession of the only MacGuffin worth holding in politics today.

Then October 1 happened.

I know. Too pat. Too easy you say.

"What if", you say:

"Is this really Obama as Master Rykerin, his assertions vs reality?

Or is the figure of Master Rykerin actually America finding itself in the fetal position on the mat in a puddle of blood and teeth after its exercise in being super duper post-racial?"

Well, maybe we're all just over-reaching here, and it's just a dumb guy with an overblown sense of accomplishment and skill bringing his patented air-slap to a fist-fight.

Moment of zen: I have a shadenboner that has lasted far longer the 4 hours, and could make a good living carving diamonds if it weren't spending all its free time auditioning for the lead in "Life, Love, Pumas -- Dick Cheney Bares All". But I'm here to chew bubblegum, crack wise, and give fucks.

And I'm all out of bubblegum and fucks.

The jokes really do write themselves from here on this segment, so have at it in the comments.

My next lesson involves snakes, because, Raiders.

What we have with Obamacare, and all its attendant subsidies, kickbacks, payoffs, and cronyism, is a cobra infestation.

Due to fair-use laws and copyrights and things a lawyer would give a few fkucs about, I can only really quote a small portion. Do read it all.

Please tell us that wasn't in your pants. It was in your pants, wasn't it?

The answer to the whole mess, according to this Roanoke, Va. man who happens to be a completely non-introspective Real-Estate broker in a fairy upscale region, is the Golden Rule as distilled by Marx.

Which seems to segue nicely to this Christmas list...

~~"A little thing with that can turn into anything at any time."~~ As you can see, my kid bumped this item up the list. Owning an imaginary object that can grant her God-like powers is now THIRD on her list, right behind the bead kit. Priorities.

And this math problem, courtesy of common-core:

@TwitchyTeam from assessment guild. This pic shows publisher pic.twitter.com/r41Qx6PPeN
— Kevin (@kevinpost) December 6, 2013

"But Master krak/t", you say, "This simply can't end well..."

Except, well, you know the drill:

DGAF ONT brought to you by my pup Ziva, Terror of crunchy leaves beneath a full moon.

Disclaimer: Not giving a fuck may only last until Monday. Or the next news cycle. Whichever comes first. Neither Master krak/t, nor AoSHQ LLC are liable for premature fucks being given.

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1 Good evening, all! Countdown to the Colorado Morondezvous, December 14 in Wheatridge! See the Yahoo group for details.

Posted by: Mindy at December 06, 2013 05:08 PM (GRLuN)

2 No way! I'm never first!

Posted by: Mindy at December 06, 2013 05:09 PM (GRLuN)

3 3?

Posted by: wow-zer at December 06, 2013 05:12 PM (jHkZU)

4 Well, shit. Have no idea what the thread is about but I just got home after delivering several loads of wood to folks who are out electricity. They plied me with some alcohol too, so, burp. I'm flippin' buzzed, actually loving the weather, and, still wound tighter than a bow-string. Oh, and, getting home tonight was worse than my first venture out on the roads this morning. I was a fish-tailing mo-fo getting back to the house. Sheees.....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2013 05:12 PM (JeK8N)

5 to find all our fucks have been taken from us, and so, we simply have no more to give.

Ain't that the truth.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 05:13 PM (hO8IJ)

6 If you're not first, you're last!!

Posted by: Ricky Bobby at December 06, 2013 05:13 PM (dCwZe)

7 isn't the common core unsolvable without more info? or are they promoting talking out of your ass like the current presidnet? hmmm

Posted by: wow-zer at December 06, 2013 05:13 PM (jHkZU)

8 Uh oh. Power just went out and while it isn't as low as nine degrees here it's gonna get cold if this lasts very long. Plus it's really dark.

Posted by: Retread at December 06, 2013 05:14 PM (OCBPC)

9 First two vids no show up .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 06, 2013 05:14 PM (XWw96)

10 I'm a few counties south of HeatherRadish ... iced in up to my ass ... and almost out of beer.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 06, 2013 05:15 PM (6/+vz)

11 Good evening, fake Internet friends in the magic box! What's happening?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2013 05:16 PM (UAMVq)

12 I just noticed the Huggies ad banners. Is Ace trying to capture a new demographic? DependsÂ™.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 06, 2013 05:16 PM (V4CBV)

13 Alternate House Stark: Winter is a motherfucker.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 06, 2013 05:16 PM (6rcHp)

Mindy just deflowered herself, live and online! She was her first "first".

Things like this can ONLY happen at Ace of Spades!

Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 06, 2013 05:16 PM (vvk2F)

15 There's a whole series of Qi Master videos on youtube pulling the same shit. Awesome thing is how universal it is. There are Chinese fake ass Qi Masters, Dutch fake ass Qi Masters, Redneck fake ass Qi Masters, etc. It's kind of awesome. They all generally are fat middle-aged duded who somehow have convinced a surprisingly large # of followers that they have magic Qi energy powers that allow them to beat up people with mind punches.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 06, 2013 05:17 PM (ZPrif)

16 The world has gone to shit here. It's supposed to get to down to the 40s tonight

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 06, 2013 05:17 PM (/7Xis)

17 isn't the common core unsolvable without more info?

I think they're trying to get at numbers that can be divided by both 4 and 6. Lowest Common something-or-other, for adding fractions (1/4 + 1/6 is 5/12 sort of thing). They just didn't say "fewest stickers that can go into 4 bags or 6 bags with none leftover." So some generous kid's gonna say 48--totally acceptable--and get it wrong.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 05:19 PM (hO8IJ)

18 Search youtube for "no touch KO" or "qi master KO" or stuff like that and you'll find the videos.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 06, 2013 05:19 PM (ZPrif)

19 It's quite warm here in Classic City Â— 67Â° degrees.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 06, 2013 05:19 PM (V4CBV)

20 beer bottles or cans of beer? cans for the win?

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 05:19 PM (Iu2bR)

21 What the hell just happened?

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 06, 2013 05:20 PM (lq3Ak)

22 Bill... keep trying. It comes up fine in chrome. And yes, wow-zer, that math problem does seem a little sparse in details. My thought was that it was taken out of context, and the details were on the lesson sheet. Nope. That is the puzzle in its entirety. I think the proper answer is "Take all the stickers from the rich, and give them to everyone else. After the rich decide it's pointless to keep making stickers, there will be no stickers left."

Posted by: krakatoa at December 06, 2013 05:20 PM (eCtnP)

23 Alright, who embiggened the blog?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 05:21 PM (GEICT)

24 Howdy!

18* and counting...downward, that is....supposed to get single-digit temps tonight!

Brrrrrrr!

Hope you all are nice and warm!

Posted by: JeanQ at December 06, 2013 05:21 PM (82lr7)

25 1 Good evening, all! Countdown to the Colorado Morondezvous, December 14 in Wheatridge! See the Yahoo group for details. ................ You are kidding me right? Can't we do something like this when the weather is compatible? I'm in that area twice a year.

Posted by: Molly k. at December 06, 2013 05:21 PM (V4Dp4)

26 The correct answer to the common core question is eleventy.

Posted by: Lucky Pierre at December 06, 2013 05:21 PM (5fSr7)

27 Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 09:19 PM (hO8IJ) what about 12 stickers?

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 05:22 PM (Iu2bR)

28 I-pad krak .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 06, 2013 05:22 PM (XWw96)

29 The world has gone to shit here. It's supposed to get to down to the 40stonight >>
<<Twin Cities Metro Area Forecast tonight through Sunday: Clear and very cold tonight with sunrise ( 7:37 a.m. ) temperatures Saturday near -10 below and wind-chills from -15 below to -25 below. Winds tonight will be from the West at 5 to 10 mph....>>

Yeah I feel real bad for you.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 06, 2013 05:22 PM (TI3xG)

30 Poor Fahfred and Mouser, one time they got such a jinx laid on them oh dear every girl that they got close to suffered a misfortune.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 06, 2013 05:22 PM (iGP6J)

31 the magic she uh ain't er working...

//bho

nice ont Krak

Posted by: sven10077 at December 06, 2013 05:22 PM (9jfyN)

32 I had my kids attend a summer camp at a Korean Karate school. I just wanted them to gain some skills and exercise. So the guy running the school turns out to be a real dick and a bully. I trained in Kenpo at a real fight club but he didn't know this. So I go in one day and my daughter wants to quit. I find out later the guy had slapped her for talking. My son still wants to go and I'm chewing on this when; here's the good part...A couple days later he's going to do a demonstration to show how bad ass he is and I look athletic so he asks me to participate. He says "Hit me in the face." I say "Really?" he says yes. So I hit that fucker so hard he needed dental repair.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at December 06, 2013 05:22 PM (MhA4j)

33 Can I comment even if I have no fucking clue what this thread is about? Also know as Friday here.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 06, 2013 05:23 PM (bCEmE)

34 I'm a few counties south of HeatherRadish ... iced in up to my ass ... and almost out of beer.

I found a case of Yuengling in my garage last night. I haven't been to Ohio since June. I suck at life.

Weather's fine up here, though. More bitching than precip.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 05:23 PM (hO8IJ)

35 Hi y'all. I dodged a bullet today, only 5 inches of snow and 1/4 inches of ice. For some morons that may be considered Friday, but for me this is a BFD. I suspect Al Gore has secretly visited the area.

Posted by: tbodie at December 06, 2013 05:24 PM (qG1i2)

36 23 Alright, who embiggened the blog? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 09:21 PM (GEICT) Seems to me lately, every thread is embiggened after you hit 'continue reading' or 'comments'. Videos blow the margins.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 06, 2013 05:24 PM (bCEmE)

37 16 The world has gone to shit here. It's supposed to get to down to the 40stonight Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 06, 2013 09:17 PM (/7Xis) .................................... Poor guy. When I started my car this morning it was -12, drove 40 miles north and it hit -17. I would be envious of you but it did warm up to _2. That is EXCLUDING the windchill factor which was -28 this morning

Posted by: Molly k. at December 06, 2013 05:24 PM (V4Dp4)

38 24 Howdy! 18* and counting...downward, that is....supposed to get single-digit temps tonight! Brrrrrrr! Hope you all are nice and warm! Posted by: JeanQ at December 06, 2013 09:21 PM (82lr7) Nice and warm here in Florida. 72 degrees where I am.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2013 05:24 PM (UAMVq)

39 Hey, weather peopleÂ….high was in the low/mid 80s today. And expected to stay that way for at least 3 or 4 more days.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 05:25 PM (GEICT)

40 Common Core is Far From An Altruistic Endeavor Just who is developing Â“Common CoreÂ” curricula and where is that money coming from? Interestingly enough, Common Core Inc. was founded and funded years before the standards had been adopted by the statesÂ… or even released! Interestingly enough, it was funded by Bill Gates More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=4104

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 06, 2013 05:26 PM (Vk2pI)

41 The hell is "a black rist"? Are we sure that isn't racist?

Posted by: rickl at December 06, 2013 05:26 PM (sdi6R)

42 Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2013 09:24 PM

Lol--glad somebody is warm right now!

It's usually closer to 30-40 degrees this time of year, here in podunk. Not ready for the deep freeze just yet!

Posted by: JeanQ at December 06, 2013 05:27 PM (82lr7)

43 what about 12 stickers?

Yeah, that's the smallest answer. But the question doesn't call for "smallest" so 48 is OK, too. But if the teacher's guide says 12 and you say 48, you're fucked, because that's more math than she's done since she was in third grade herself.

*drink*

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 05:27 PM (hO8IJ)

44 Is this the ONT? I can't tell, my brain is mush from trying to figure out the health insurance earlier, finally got all snivelly and took a pill. Quite chilly in SoCal, although nothing like what you flyovers are getting, but 50s in the daytime, low 40s at night. Brrrrrrr . . .

Posted by: Peaches at December 06, 2013 05:27 PM (8lmkt)

Greetings from the Great White Death, Ohio edition.

This ONT was a masterpiece, a veritable Zen of casual nihilism that embraces the coming post-despair America, where nothing is left but the flames set in motion by liberal dreams made manifest in all their incedinary and self-destructive glory.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 05:27 PM (sQ0LB)

46 Love the theme. I don't give a fuck either. Love the killer dog awesomeness

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 06, 2013 05:27 PM (HVff2)

47 The correct answer to the common core question is ~~eleventy~~ potatoe. Posted by: Lucky Pierre at December 06, 2013 09:21 PM (5fSr7) ficked!!1!

Posted by: Publik Skewl Teechre at December 06, 2013 05:28 PM (Vk2pI)

48 Okay I am throwing the flag on this week and heading off to bed for rest and sleep and not to play Uncharted for eleventy hours because someone did an Indy post and made me want to play Uncharted. koff

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 06, 2013 05:28 PM (Gk3SS)

49 DGAF? We can help! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX-Us7Qhk-c

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2013 05:28 PM (8Fl6F)

50 Joe Rogan has done funny bits on black "karate masters" in New York. There's this weird subset of black dudes in NYC who teach each other "karate". It's mainly based off old kung-fu movies and rap songs. They don't train with any actual legit martial arts, just with each other, but convince themselves they have mastered some high level ninja shit. One guy like that tried out once for The Ultimate Fighter or some show like that, can't remember. It was funny. Then it was sad. Then kind of frightening. The black dude just had a full-on mental breakdown once he was exposed and laughed at by the actual mma dudes. He kept insisting he was a karate master, despite all the evidence. And went downhill quickly into violent threats and vowing to prove he was a karate master by going home and getting his gun. He came in all cocky in his karate master costume, and left in a mix of crying, screaming, and threatening revenge.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 06, 2013 05:29 PM (ZPrif)

51 33 Can I comment even if I have no fucking clue what this thread is about?

Also know as Friday here.

Posted by: Tami at December 06, 2013 09:23 PM (bCEmE)

Just so long as you don't give a fuck what the thread is about? If you do give a fuck you have to wait until monday.

Posted by: buzzion at December 06, 2013 05:29 PM (LI48c)

52 Poor Fahfred and Mouser, one time they got such a jinx laid on them oh dear every girl that they got close to suffered a misfortune. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 06, 2013 09:22 PM (iGP6J) I bet they split all the hobo pelts 60%/60%Â…

Posted by: Your Pall Fritz at December 06, 2013 05:29 PM (Vk2pI)

53 So are we supposed to talk about commie core where 1+1=3

Posted by: Fourth Horseman RN now your MD at December 06, 2013 05:29 PM (KuZ6A)

54 >>>Hey, weather peopleÂ….high was in the low/mid 80s today. And expected to stay that way for at least 3 or 4 more days It was 65 yesterday. Gonna be snowing on Sunday. Pissing down rain right now. In unrelated news, you suck.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 06, 2013 05:30 PM (eQJwb)

55 The following is an itemization of the fucks I remain capable of giving: Yeah, that covers it. Oh, and just 'cause, the trailer for Mega Shark vs. Mecha Shark. http://tinyurl.com/mnhwfv8

Posted by: Brother Cavil needs to sort his socks at December 06, 2013 05:30 PM (m9V0o)

56 8 Uh oh. Power just went out and while it isn't as low as nine degrees here it's gonna get cold if this lasts very long. Plus it's really dark. Posted by: Retread at December 06, 2013 09:14 PM (OCBPC) Shit man, plug in that solar charger before your battery goes dead.

Posted by: Barry, Chom leader at December 06, 2013 05:30 PM (0FSuD)

57 sorry, I fixated on: ...nothing is left but the flames set in motion...

Ooooh! WARM!!!!!

Posted by: JeanQ at December 06, 2013 05:30 PM (82lr7)

I'm going to come back when some semblance of order has been restored.

...all this on a day when Seattle gets Robinson Cano. It is all too much right now. B.B.L.

-Your Self-Proclaimed Voice of Truth and Reason,

-Your Friendly Neighborhood Slapweasel

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 06, 2013 05:30 PM (lq3Ak)

59 Weather's fine up here, though. More bitching than precip. Down here, it had the audacity to rain all day just warm enough to sleet - then it got colder. Ice out the ass. But damn it - just like Donna Summer - I will survive.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 06, 2013 05:31 PM (6/+vz)

60 16 degrees here. Lake Michigan keepin us 'warm'

Posted by: Red Shirt at December 06, 2013 05:31 PM (FIDMq)

61 Has your dog been in Mexico hijacking freight trucks, lately?

Posted by: garrett at December 06, 2013 05:31 PM (od1df)

62 In unrelated news, you suck. Posted by: DC in Towson at December 06, 2013 09:30 PM (eQJwb)

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 05:31 PM (GEICT)

63 One guy like that tried out once for The Ultimate Fighter or some show like that, can't remember. It was funny. Then it was sad. Then kind of frightening. The black dude just had a full-on mental breakdown once he was exposed and laughed at by the actual mma dudes. Ever watch Bully Beatdown? They'd get guys who thought they were real tough in the cage with actual MMA fighters. Unsurprisingly they got their asses handed to them. It was hilarious.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2013 05:32 PM (UAMVq)

64 but 50s in the daytime, low 40s at night. Brrrrrrr . . . Posted by: Peaches at December 06, 2013 09:27 PM (8lmkt) Lol. Hahaha. Hi Peaches.

Posted by: tbodie at December 06, 2013 05:32 PM (Bfbpz)

65 Can I comment even if I have no fucking clue what this thread is about? Also know as Friday here.
Posted by: Tami at December 06, 2013 09:23 PM (bCEmE)

Oh, bless you, Tami, I thought it was just me. Zero idea what DGAF means. It's kinda like DIAF, but clearly not. I'm just callin' it Friday, too. xoxo

Posted by: Peaches at December 06, 2013 05:33 PM (8lmkt)

66 Hah. That's awesome, Alberta Oil. I'm saving that one.

Posted by: krakatoa at December 06, 2013 05:33 PM (eCtnP)

67 BC from other thread, when did gift go from 13 to 14? I have already mailed checks, oh well, fuck em.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 05:33 PM (0FSuD)

68 70 degrees in NC

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 05:34 PM (0FSuD)

69 23 here 3 to 6 inched of snow forecasted. The kids are excited about hookey-bobbing behind a 4Wheeler in the AM. tonight going to drink myself to a point I forget JEF is presidentn

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 05:34 PM (Iu2bR)

70 I think DGAF stands for Don't Give A Fuck.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2013 05:34 PM (UAMVq)

71 Oh, bless you, Tami, I thought it was just me. Zero idea what DGAF means. It's kinda like DIAF, but clearly not. I'm just callin' it Friday, too. xoxo

Posted by: Peaches at December 06, 2013 09:33 PM (8lmkt)

Don't Give A Fuck

Posted by: Red Shirt at December 06, 2013 05:34 PM (FIDMq)

72 Oh, bless you, Tami, I thought it was just me. Zero idea what DGAF means. It's kinda like DIAF, but clearly not. I'm just callin' it Friday, too. xoxo Posted by: Peaches at December 06, 2013 09:33 PM (8lmkt) I'm guessing Don't Give A Fuck. But damn if I'm following the post. It's like CAC when he starts firing up.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 05:34 PM (GEICT)

73 I just realized: This is an ONT that recaps the day's thread topics, more or less. Brilliant.

Posted by: rickl at December 06, 2013 05:34 PM (sdi6R)

74 Come on Fritz mein komerad you know the story. They went haring off to their local deity who seemed to tolerate the two miscreants. To find out they had to go on a quest but only if a girl came to them. After that it was almost a classic defeat the wizard story with a heart hidden away.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 06, 2013 05:34 PM (iGP6J)

75 There better be blue stickers in those bags...

Posted by: Sugar, Spice, and AN ICEPICK IN UR ORBITAL at December 06, 2013 05:34 PM (R6JT1)

76 Well, that was a pleasant ride. Tomorrow morning it's supposed to be 58 degrees and then it is going to drop throughout the day and end up in the mid 40's. Sunday it's going to be in the high 30's, but what the hell, I have to go to work Sunday anyway.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 05:34 PM (yh0zB)

77 Peaches, DGAF = don't give a fuck!

Posted by: Fourth Horseman RN now your MD at December 06, 2013 05:34 PM (KuZ6A)

78 67 Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 09:33 PM (0FSuD)

It's now indexed to inflation/devaluation of the dollar...

you know that stuff the media insists is not happening?

Posted by: sven10077 at December 06, 2013 05:35 PM (9jfyN)

79 tonight going to drink myself to a point I forget JEF is presidentn Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 09:34 PM (Iu2bR) That much? I hope you have the paramedics on standby...

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2013 05:35 PM (UAMVq)

80 16 The world has gone to shit here. It's supposed to get to down to the 40stonight

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 06, 2013 09:17 PM (/7Xis)

Yeah temp outside right now is 22 degrees with 40 mph winds so about 14-15 with wind chill. Average this time of the year is 46 degrees in washington.

Love the global warming!

Posted by: NWConservative at December 06, 2013 05:35 PM (M1gmo)

81 tonight going to drink myself to a point I forget JEF is presidentn Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 09:34 PM (Iu2bR) So, Sid, you own a liquor store?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 05:35 PM (0FSuD)

82 It's just cold here but the scanner has been entertaining. TXDOT tried to use graders as snow plows. I hear the interstate and other roads have been closed off and on.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at December 06, 2013 05:36 PM (kxSZr)

83 >>>Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 09:31 PM *grumblegrumblegrumble* Shots?

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 06, 2013 05:36 PM (eQJwb)

84 For bonus points ... a lot of us wear DILLIGAF stickers on our hardhats.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 06, 2013 05:36 PM (6/+vz)

85 The Bully Beatdown guy was Jason "Mayhem" Miller who appears to have had a complete mental breakdown since that show. Got cut from the UFC, went crazy, flipping out in interviews, threatening people on twitter, multiple arrest. A year or two ago he got arrested buck naked in a church he had broken into and ransacked or something like that. He was always kinda crazy. Don't think the head trauma helped.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 06, 2013 05:36 PM (ZPrif)

86 How odd you bring up giving fucks. I was just thinking about this on the drive home from work today. It went something like this: As far as this country's current direction... I have quite a few 30-fuck magazines to give, and many more fucks stashed away to re-fill them. I just love to practice giving fucks all the way out to 600 fucking yards or so, with various size fucks in different fucking platforms. Then again, as long as you're not dressed in midnight terror troop blue and an executioner's hood and are intent on disturbing my fucking peace and quiet, you many never find out how many fucking fucks I'm willing to give.

As it should be.

Posted by: The Norweigan Fir at December 06, 2013 05:37 PM (wgzFF)

87 Oh, bless you, Tami, I thought it was just me. Zero idea what DGAF means. It's kinda like DIAF, but clearly not. I'm just callin' it Friday, too. xoxo Posted by: Peaches at December 06, 2013 09:33 PM (8lmkt) Peaches! Where ya been hiding? Did you see the previous thread about the Cali docs?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 06, 2013 05:37 PM (bCEmE)

88 48 Okay I am throwing the flag on this week and heading off to bed for rest and sleep and not to play Uncharted for eleventy hours because someone did an Indy post and made me want to play Uncharted. koff

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 06, 2013 09:28 PM (Gk3SS)

1. Love Uncharted, you should play for eleventy hours.

2. Just looked through the morning threads and saw boot marks all over jwest's face.

Posted by: NWConservative at December 06, 2013 05:37 PM (M1gmo)

89 Shots? Posted by: DC in Towson at December 06, 2013 09:36 PM (eQJwb) *sigh* Have mine for me. In addition to nothing spicy and severely limiting my caffeine, alcohol prob isn't a good idea.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 05:38 PM (GEICT)

90 85 The Bully Beatdown guy was Jason "Mayhem" Miller who appears to have had a complete mental breakdown since that show. Got cut from the UFC, went crazy, flipping out in interviews, threatening people on twitter, multiple arrest. A year or two ago he got arrested buck naked in a church he had broken into and ransacked or something like that. He was always kinda crazy. Don't think the head trauma helped. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 06, 2013 09:36 PM (ZPrif) Didn't know he'd come unhinged like that. That's a shame.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2013 05:38 PM (UAMVq)

91 I think DGAF stands for Don't Give A Fuck.

Thank you so much, Insomniac and all the other generous morons who put me some knowledge. Personally, I like saying the word "FUCK" so much, I would never acronym it but, fuck, good to know.

Posted by: Peaches at December 06, 2013 05:39 PM (8lmkt)

92 Oh, excitement! Something has been ripping up my sod in back yard, so I got a havahart trap and last night I caught a big as Raccoon. He was not happy when I introduced him to my Colt 22 Huntsman, but he quieted down rather quickly.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 05:39 PM (0FSuD)

93 I've got a cold so I'm taking the rum cure.

Posted by: Northernlurker AKA Ragnar the Phillips screwdriver of Thor at December 06, 2013 05:40 PM (BLAfs)

94 86 How odd you bring up giving fucks. I was just thinking about this on the drive home from work today. I'm right with you on that kind of thinking. But you know ... I don't look forward to it. Not for my kids.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 06, 2013 05:40 PM (6/+vz)

95 86 How odd you bring up giving fucks. I was just thinking about this on the drive home from work today. As Peaches would say, fuckity, fuck, fuck, fuckity fuck

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 06, 2013 05:41 PM (HVff2)

96 I caught a big as Raccoon.

Skin it and salt the hide is your next step then.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at December 06, 2013 05:41 PM (kxSZr)

97 Holy shit, I'm a huge Stephen Kruiser fan today.

Posted by: logprof at December 06, 2013 05:41 PM (fETNt)

98 Has your dog been in Mexico hijacking freight trucks, lately? She does look spooky. But no, she comes by it naturally. Well, as natural as the led "flash" on my S4 can be.

Posted by: krakatoa at December 06, 2013 05:41 PM (eCtnP)

99 It's soooo cold here, I just turned on my oven. Not to cook anything, just for the additional heat source. The crappy little space heater is not rockin' it out and, although I finally cut through the paint on the in-wall-heater access panel, after 2.5 years it is covered in dustbunnies, there's no way I can even attempt to light it tonight (vacuuming is simply out of the question until tomorrow). I hate my life.

Posted by: Peaches at December 06, 2013 05:41 PM (8lmkt)

100 95 86 How odd you bring up giving fucks. I was just thinking about this on the drive home from work today. As Peaches would say, fuckity, fuck, fuck, fuckity fuck Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 06, 2013 09:41 PM (HVff2) And topped off with a maximum strength dose of Fuckitall.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2013 05:41 PM (UAMVq)

101 >>>In addition to nothing spicy and severely limiting my caffeine, alcohol prob isn't a good idea. Bwahahaha! Enjoy your nice weather, with no flavor, no caffeine, and no buzz. Fair trade if you ask me.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 06, 2013 05:42 PM (eQJwb)

102 92 Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 09:39 PM (0FSuD)

Fuck...I'm out

Posted by: sven10077 at December 06, 2013 05:42 PM (9jfyN)

103 GGE - Calling for freezing rain in the western parts, Sat. night. At least it will get the hipster doofuses off the streets..., maybe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 06, 2013 05:42 PM (aDwsi)

104 Lawyers. Why does it always have to be lawyers?

Posted by: Indiana AmishDude at December 06, 2013 05:42 PM (xSegX)

105 It isn't 40 below here...yet. But it is -28Â°C, which is getting uncomfortably close. And around here, the standard rig for plowing snow on rural roads is a grader with a "wing" blade on the right side. Does a fine job with a skilled operator at the wheel.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2013 05:43 PM (8Fl6F)

106 I had to take a pill today after speaking with my insurance lady and trying to figure this 404care shit out. I was on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Could barely even dress myself, I just put on the same thing I wore yesterday. It's so fuckin' cold, I'm sure it was still fresh. (new socks and panties, don't go there)

Posted by: Peaches at December 06, 2013 05:43 PM (8lmkt)

107 Bwahahaha! Enjoy your nice weather, with no flavor, no caffeine, and no buzz. Fair trade if you ask me. Posted by: DC in Towson at December 06, 2013 09:42 PM (eQJwb) *shoots DC the bird* Stupid fucking stomach issues.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 05:43 PM (GEICT)

108 Skin it and salt the hide is your next step then. Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at December 06, 2013 09:41 PM (kxSZr) My son would do that in a heart beat, but I already have too much shit on the walls and I don't need a coon tail either. @102 shit I close to out of here too.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 05:43 PM (0FSuD)

109 I've got a cold so I'm taking the rum cure.

Posted by: Northernlurker AKA Ragnar the Phillips screwdriver of Thor at December 06, 2013 09:40 PM (BLAfs)

I prescribe clear ~~liquors~~ liquids.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 05:44 PM (yh0zB)

110 Yeah, Mayhem's most recent freakout was to go up to a young upcoming UFC guy, who is black, getting in his face and just screaming over and over, you ain't nothing but a bitch-ass n****. It was at like a fight or a fan convention or something. Very public, very nasty. Uriah Hall was the black UFC guy. There's several media interviews where Mayhem would go crazy. He'd demand to be called different names. At first people thought he was doing an Andy Kaufman style bit. But eventually it was clear he was just going nuts.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 06, 2013 05:44 PM (ZPrif)

111 That math question makes no sense. From the comments above I guess that might be inferred, but it is still really really poorly written. It is also an example of schools being anti-boy. Word problems that seem like trick questions tend to be easier for girls, while simple straightforward equations are easier than boys. Amongst the problems it that it talks about both bags of stickers and number of stickers. There is no information about the number of stickers per bag. The questions simply assumes that the "bag of stickers" bought is the same thing as the "bag of stickers" given out to friends. The question being how many "sickers" to buy throws that off. It also isn't specified how many friends there are. Perhaps the kid doesn't know if there will be four or six friends that will end up getting it? In that case, ya, you'd need at least 12, though any number that can be divided by 4 or 6 would be equally valid, so really, an infinite number of answers would work. If it has asked what the smallest number of bags the kid should buy to make sure that it could be divided amongst either 4 or 6 other kids, the answer would be 12 (assuming that buying 12 bags is affordable, in which case an even number of bags would be 0 if it weren't). If you are teaching mathematical principles, badly worded problems are the worst thing you can use, especially with a boy.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 06, 2013 05:44 PM (Vk2pI)

112 While consuming rum I find myself pondering the verbal tick the SCOAMF has about asking permission to be perfectly clear. Is that possibly a plea for help? Perhaps the most brialliantist orator ever is under thrall to someone who forces him to speak only in terms of idiotic, sophomoric twaddle? Who could that be?

Posted by: Northernlurker AKA Ragnar the Phillips screwdriver of Thor at December 06, 2013 05:45 PM (BLAfs)

113 The Norweigan Fir at December 06, 2013 09:37 PM (wgzFF) So you're the one what's been bogarting all the fucks? No wonder the rest of us are fresh out.

Posted by: krakatoa at December 06, 2013 05:45 PM (eCtnP)

114 106 I had to take a pill today after speaking with my insurance lady and trying to figure this 404care shit out. I was on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Could barely even dress myself, I just put on the same thing I wore yesterday. It's so fuckin' cold, I'm sure it was still fresh. (new socks and panties, don't go there) Posted by: Peaches at December 06, 2013 09:43 PM (8lmkt) Sorry about your miserable Obamacide experience.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2013 05:45 PM (UAMVq)

115 Today when I had my meeting with Maxine Waters (D-Watts) she was so impressed with something I said she repeated it to everyone else there.

Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 05:45 PM (b7yum)

116 Gotta love all that "climate change" weather (otherwise known as "winter") out there, obviously caused by us greedy Americans and our cars... (around 35 here in northern Louisiana).

Posted by: Thrawn at December 06, 2013 05:45 PM (ZyqBH)

117 107 Bwahahaha! Enjoy your nice weather, with no flavor, no caffeine, and no buzz. Fair trade if you ask me. Posted by: DC in Towson at December 06, 2013 09:42 PM (eQJwb) *shoots DC the bird* Stupid fucking stomach issues. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 09:43 PM (GEICT) That sucks, get better you are too young for that kinda shit

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 06, 2013 05:46 PM (HVff2)

118 Oh, more excitement. I got the Christmas tree up that wifey picked out. It is crooked as shit and no amount of adjusting will save it. Putting up a tree and ornaments sober is a SERIOUS challenge, but I made it. Trying to lose weight.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 05:46 PM (0FSuD)

119 106 I had to take a pill today after speaking with my insurance lady and trying to figure this 404care shit out. I was on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Could barely even dress myself, I just put on the same thing I wore yesterday. It's so fuckin' cold, I'm sure it was still fresh. (new socks and panties, don't go there)

Posted by: Peaches at December 06, 2013 09:43 PM (8lmkt)

My wife and I are going without insurance. The plans similar to our current canceled one have none of the benefits it currently does and all ask for deductible first before they pay anything. So I would be paying out of pocket either way. Not paying 400$ just to pay it.

Posted by: NWConservative at December 06, 2013 05:46 PM (M1gmo)

120 I had to take a pill today after speaking with my insurance lady and trying to figure this 404care shit out. I was on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Could barely even dress myself, I just put on the same thing I wore yesterday. It's so fuckin' cold, I'm sure it was still fresh. (new socks and panties, don't go there) *Hugs* I'm right there with you. I don't really drink, but I'm about to go all Clark Griswold with the egg nog.

Posted by: Lauren at December 06, 2013 05:46 PM (hFL/3)

121 Calling for freezing rain in the western parts, Sat. night. At least it will get the hipster doofuses off the streets..., maybe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 06, 2013 09:42 PM (aDwsi)

I'm heading off to the toy run in Lenoir tomorrow afternoon, debating on whether I should take the 'stang or the Scoobydo. I do believe the little yellow trucklet is going to win this argument because AWD. Which is why I was out driving the 'stang with the top down until the wee hours of the evening.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 05:46 PM (yh0zB)

122 Fake insurance, fake President, now fake math?

Hooray for consistency.

Posted by: Splunge at December 06, 2013 05:47 PM (bKA83)

123 "...letting it burn..." bullshit. I'm ready to set forth with a couple of bottles of lighter fluid and a propane torch. g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 05:47 PM (JMmQ9)

124 NWConservative, Have you looked at Samaritan Ministries? Assuming that you don't have the theological hangups that we do, it could really be a great program $370/ month for the entire family, less for a couple.

Posted by: Lauren at December 06, 2013 05:47 PM (hFL/3)

125 I let little boys put stickers on my sack.

Posted by: Harry Reid at December 06, 2013 05:48 PM (UAMVq)

126 Juanita is the web designer for the ACA.

Posted by: no good deed at December 06, 2013 05:48 PM (HsJeN)

127 Buy ZERO bags of stickers. Then all friends get the exact same number of stickers, and infinite number of friends can be accommodated.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 06, 2013 05:48 PM (L0b3J)

128 115 And yes, I was close enough on multiple occasions to smack dat booty

Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 05:48 PM (b7yum)

129 Today whenI had my meeting with Maxine Waters (D-Watts) she was so impressed with something I said she repeated it to everyone else there.

Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 09:45 PM (b7yum)

Would have been so much more awesome if you had simply snatched that nasty wig off her fool head and posted the whole thing on youtube . . . just sayin . . .

Posted by: Peaches at December 06, 2013 05:48 PM (8lmkt)

130 That sucks, get better you are too young for that kinda shit Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 06, 2013 09:46 PM (HVff2) Thanks. The doc actually said pretty much the opposite. "You're not 23 anymore. You can't just dump spicy food and caffeine into your stomach and think nothing will happen."

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 05:49 PM (GEICT)

131 127 Buy ZERO bags of stickers. Then all friends get the exact same number of stickers, and infinite number of friends can be accommodated. Posted by: Purp at December 06, 2013 09:48 PM (L0b3J) The fuck the stickers and fuck her friends solution. Simple and elegant.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2013 05:49 PM (UAMVq)

132 TXDOT tried to use graders as snow plows>>

They plow/grade my road all year round here with a grader.

I live on a dirt road though so it's different and from talking to the driver at the bar. It take talent when you are plowing snow with the grader to keep from putting it in the ditch.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 06, 2013 05:49 PM (TI3xG)

133 "Juanita is the web designer for the ACA." Did you see the DC exchange's error message? "Your session got expired." *blink* *blink blink* Is this real life?

Posted by: Lauren at December 06, 2013 05:49 PM (hFL/3)

134 On this night of possible ice storms, I want to mention the movie, The Ice Storm, which made a strong impression on me. I saw it as being about what happens when adults refuse to behave as adults and choose to live as children. Lots of that going around now.

It's one of those movies like The Deer Hunter, where you're glad you saw it, and you never want to see it again.

Posted by: Splunge at December 06, 2013 05:49 PM (bKA83)

135 DGAF = don't give a fuck! Posted by: Fourth Horseman RN now your MD at December 06, 2013 09:34 PM (KuZ6A) I have plenty of those to give!!1!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke, Wholesaler of Fucks at December 06, 2013 05:50 PM (Vk2pI)

136 When did Megyn Kelly come down with throat cancer?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 06, 2013 05:50 PM (oFCZn)

137 115 Today whenI had my meeting with Maxine Waters (D-Watts) she was so impressed with something I said she repeated it to everyone else there. Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 09:45 PM (b7yum) "Hi"?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 05:50 PM (GEICT)

138 Would have been so much more awesome if you had simply snatched that nasty wig off her fool head and posted the whole thing on youtube . . . just sayin . . . Posted by: Peaches at December 06, 2013 09:48 PM that would have been EPIC

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 05:50 PM (JMmQ9)

139 Word problems that seem like trick questions tend to be easier for girls, while simple straightforward equations are easier than boys.

I'm not going to dispute your premise, but math in the real word (except for the corner where AmishDude lives, but for the rest of us...) is nothing but word problems. My garden is twelve feet long and three feet wide, how much mulch do I need?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 05:50 PM (hO8IJ)

140 Today whenI had my meeting with Maxine Waters (D-Watts) she was so impressed with something I said she repeated it to everyone else there.

Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 09:45 PM (b7yum)

I'm thinking she would be impressed by the ability to string more than 4 or 5 words together into a coherent sentence, so the bar isn't really all that high.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 05:50 PM (yh0zB)

141 I hope at least a few students spoke up about that piss-poor math problem. I was in fifth grade when I called out my social studies teacher for asserting that Mt. Rainer was the highest mountain in the Lower 48 (it's actually Mt Whitney). She probably was bitter about it thereafter, but truth is truth.

Posted by: logprof at December 06, 2013 05:50 PM (fETNt)

142 Fuck...I'm out Posted by: sven10077 at December 06, 2013 09:42 PM (9jfyN) I still have a bunch. I shot him with that low noise shit and he just got pissed off. There must be no powder in those shells. The second shot was with a yellow jacket hollow point. That stopped his complaining. You can not hear a gun shot when there are 30 Mexicans blowing leaves around the neighborhood.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 05:50 PM (0FSuD)

143 Nip Sip, It's a twitter joke.... If ever inclined look at @sven10077 You'll laugh

Posted by: sven10077 at December 06, 2013 05:51 PM (9jfyN)

144 "Your session got expired."

Are you serious, Lauren? We've blown past the absurd into the surreal.

Posted by: no good deed at December 06, 2013 05:51 PM (HsJeN)

145 136 When did Megyn Kelly come down with throat cancer? That's a joke, right?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 05:51 PM (0FSuD)

146 139 Word problems that seem like trick questions tend to be easier for girls, while simple straightforward equations are easier than boys. I'm not going to dispute your premise, but math in the real word (except for the corner where AmishDude lives, but for the rest of us...) is nothing but word problems. My garden is twelve feet long and three feet wide, how much mulch do I need? Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 09:50 PM (hO8IJ) Trick question. You hire Paco from the Home Depot parking lot and let him figure it out.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2013 05:51 PM (UAMVq)

147 Buy ZERO bags of stickers. Then all friends get the exact same number of stickers, and infinite number of friends can be accommodated. Posted by: Purp at December 06, 2013 09:48 PM (L0b3J) Cut. Jib. Newsletter

Posted by: Equality Now! Activist at December 06, 2013 05:51 PM (Vk2pI)

148 138 She had been up since 3am eulogizing St. Nelson Mandela on 2 different tv news shows

Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 05:52 PM (b7yum)

149 "Are you serious, Lauren? We've blown past the absurd into the surreal. " Yep. It's on a screen shot in the hotair piece about the hill staffers not being able to enroll.

Posted by: Lauren at December 06, 2013 05:52 PM (hFL/3)

150 "Your session got expired."
*blink* *blink blink* Is this real life?

Grammar is racist.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 05:52 PM (hO8IJ)

151 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 09:49 PM (GEICT) After this week don't get me going on doctors or worse their little punk ass physicians assistants. Fucking butt boys

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 06, 2013 05:52 PM (HVff2)

152 Juanita's real problem seems to be she doesn't know how many friends she has.

She should buy some Mad Dog 20/20 instead. It's always been her best friend.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at December 06, 2013 05:52 PM (680hC)

153 My garden is twelve feet long and three feet wide, how much mulch do I need?

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 09:50 PM (hO8IJ)

One oak tree's worth of leaves should set you right up.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 05:52 PM (yh0zB)

154 89 In addition to nothing spicy and severely limiting my caffeine, alcohol prob isn't a good idea.

Damn, that sucks. Sorry you have to deal with that. Are you sure it's the caffeine? I'd more think it was the acidity in coffee and tea. Caffeine itself can be obtained from energy drinks and caffeinated mints.

Posted by: Splunge at December 06, 2013 05:53 PM (bKA83)

155 145 136 When did Megyn Kelly come down with throat cancer? That's a joke, right? Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 09:51 PM (0FSuD) It's either that or she's been gargling with gravel while smoking five packs of cigarettes. Most likely she's sick as hell with a cold.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 06, 2013 05:54 PM (oFCZn)

156 It makes sense. Have you ever heard the President speak in active voice? It's always "Let's get this done."

Posted by: no good deed at December 06, 2013 05:54 PM (HsJeN)

157 Oh, and here's a fun fact about the new o-style shitcare. If you sign on through the California Care website (all but guaranteeing you will have your identity stolen), you can get a "subsidy." If you have the exact same financials and choose the exact same plan, but do it through your insurance agent, or directly with the spawn-of-satan insurance company, you can't get it. Not now, not later, not ever. Does anyone know why there are not a million discrimination lawsuits pending in the courts? Srsly, my fuckin' head is exploding.

Posted by: Peaches at December 06, 2013 05:54 PM (8lmkt)

158 I am not much on Twitter, I have an account as Richard Blaine, but I never use it. To old to figure it out, and lazy. Speaking of Richard Blaine, Casablanca comes on at midnight, TCM.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 05:54 PM (0FSuD)

159 Word problems that seem like trick questions tend to be easier for girls, while simple straightforward equations are easier than boys. ***** I'm not going to dispute your premise, but math in the real word (except for the corner where AmishDude lives, but for the rest of us...) is nothing but word problems. My garden is twelve feet long and three feet wide, how much mulch do I need? Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 09:50 PM (hO8IJ) There is a difference between word problems and poorly worded word problems that come across like trick questions. And no, figuring out how much mulch you need is not a "word" problem. It is a concrete and calculable problem that does not need to involve any words whatsoever. The question "My garden is twelve feet long and three feet wide, how much mulch do I need?" does not provide enough information to give an answer. But then, this is just another example of the difference between male and female brainsÂ…

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 06, 2013 05:55 PM (Vk2pI)

160 After this week don't get me going on doctors or worse their little punk ass physicians assistants. Fucking butt boys Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 06, 2013 09:52 PM (HVff2) Lol. Someone didn't follow perfect clean procedures during my endoscopy. Which is why the sore throat I had after the procedure turned into a nice tight chest cough within 48 hours.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 05:55 PM (GEICT)

161 158 nip sip, You can bing it as @10077.... You'll see my totem animal.....

Posted by: sven10077 at December 06, 2013 05:56 PM (9jfyN)

162

I'm having a serious run of patients trying to die right in front of me. Twice in the past two weeks had youngish people (under 60) have their hearts up and stop with me in the room with little or no warning. Death is going to let me win only so many times on this run before it comes collecting.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 05:56 PM (sQ0LB)

163

148 Unfortunately her calendar did not permit me to share my feelings on the demise of Nelson Mandela as well: http://tinyurl.com/ledtrjp

F'in KNX, supposedly an all-news radio station, just gave Mandela and Obama a tongue bath all day long.

"He no longer belongs to us..." WTF??? When did he belong to us???

Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 05:56 PM (b7yum)

164 'evening, infidels.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 05:56 PM (4Mv1T)

165 Damn, that sucks. Sorry you have to deal with that. Are you sure it's the caffeine? I'd more think it was the acidity in coffee and tea. Caffeine itself can be obtained from energy drinks and caffeinated mints. Posted by: Splunge at December 06, 2013 09:53 PM (bKA83) Xantac-tini, it's a thing.

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker, Needs a Hugs and a Sedative, Wears Prada at December 06, 2013 05:56 PM (GeVLX)

166 My garden is twelve feet long and three feet wide, how much mulch do I need?

None, because private gardens are not permitted comrade.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 06, 2013 05:56 PM (L0b3J)

167 "Someone set us up the bomb!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 06, 2013 05:57 PM (kFy87)

168 On the lighter side, the latest reconnaissance satellite (NROL-39) was launched last night bearing a logo depicting the earth being eaten by giant Cthulhu like octopus with the words:
"Nothing is beyond our reach"

http://tinyurl.com/owtv2jb

I approve

Posted by: RayJ at December 06, 2013 05:57 PM (pI/IV)

169 Twice in the past two weeks had youngish people (under 60) have their hearts up and stop with me in the room with little or no warning.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 09:56 PM (sQ0LB)

Holy crap. You're bad luck.

That's why I don't go to the doctor. You don't get sick until you go to the doctor.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 05:57 PM (yh0zB)

170 Damn, that sucks. Sorry you have to deal with that. Are you sure it's the caffeine? I'd more think it was the acidity in coffee and tea. Caffeine itself can be obtained from energy drinks and caffeinated mints. Posted by: Splunge at December 06, 2013 09:53 PM (bKA83) I don't drink coffee or tea. But enough dt mtn dews and energy drinks to jumpstart a 747.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 05:57 PM (GEICT)

171 --- according to this Roanoke, Va. man who happens to be a completely non-introspective Real-Estate broker in a fairy upscale region Teh ghey neighborhood?

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at December 06, 2013 05:58 PM (6RwsK)

172 Today whenI had my meeting with Maxine Waters (D-Watts) she was so
impressed with something I said she repeated it to everyone else there.

Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 09:45 PM (b7yum)

Wait until she finds out that "scoamf" isn't a compliment.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2013 05:58 PM (8Fl6F)

173 The correct answer is that Juanita should not buy the stickers at all, but should agitate for the government to provide an equal amount of stickers to everyone. Social Justice by Scratch-n-Sniff.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone but Likes This Post at December 06, 2013 05:58 PM (wiDhi)

174 163 If he belonged to me I would have had him mow my lawn

Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 05:59 PM (b7yum)

175 >Tonight: Mostly clear, with a low around -21.

Q: Where do you go when the weekend's highs aren't expected to break -5?

...

A: Ice fishing.

Posted by: Moxie at December 06, 2013 05:59 PM (b8ieg)

176 Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 09:56 PM (sQ0LB)

Dammit, Crank. That's hard stuff to deal with on a work shift. And, as you say, probably only gonna get more and more SOP.

How's little miss Maddie? Haven't asked in a while. I hope she's all good and looking forward to Christmas.

Posted by: Peaches at December 06, 2013 05:59 PM (8lmkt)

177 166 My garden is twelve feet long and three feet wide, how much mulch do I need? None, because private gardens are not permitted comrade. Posted by: Purp at December 06, 2013 09:56 PM (L0b As long it ain't the IRS easier to beg for forgiveness rather than ask for permission. Hey TR Rodent Infidel

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 06, 2013 05:59 PM (HVff2)

178 The theme song for tonight's fine ONT
http://youtu.be/DFG9dwolo3Q

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 06, 2013 05:59 PM (kFy87)

179 Train A leaves Chicago at 40 MPH toward DC - full of Democrats. Train B leaves Boston thirty minutes later - with an equivalent passenger list and destination. How many rounds of ammunition should one stock, in case both trains arrive at Congress ? Bonus ... what caliber ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 06, 2013 05:59 PM (6/+vz)

180 166 My garden is twelve feet long and three feet wide, how much mulch do I need? None, because private gardens are not permitted comrade. Posted by: Purp at December 06, 2013 09:56 PM (L0b3J) You just gotta love HOAs.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2013 06:00 PM (UAMVq)

181 Alberta Oil. That was the nightly closing song at a bar called The Fifth National Banque in Norfolk -- early 80's

Posted by: PMRich at December 06, 2013 06:00 PM (KDUNf)

182 Mandela is not MLK. I don't remember MLK running a terrorist bombing campaign to end Jim Crow. Mandela can be credited for not exterminating the whites once he took power like some of his followers wanted. But he was Communist. He supported Castro. He also supported the Iran and the mullahs. Probably just for cash.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 06, 2013 06:00 PM (ZPrif)

183 How many rounds of ammunition should one stock, in case both trains arrive at Congress ? Bonus ... what caliber ? Posted by: ScoggDog at December 06, 2013 09:59 PM (6/+vz) Same answer to both: All Of Them.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 06:00 PM (GEICT)

184 172 You should see her husband. Like Norma Desmond's in "Sunset Boulevard"

Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 06:01 PM (b7yum)

185 Hey, it's Peaches! How've you been? I missed you at the Patriots / Texans thread... was that an act of mercy on your part? :^)

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 06:01 PM (Nsoq9)

186 @161 I must be a fucking idiot, all I get is a Bosch drill link with @10077

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 06:01 PM (0FSuD)

187 The correct answer is that Juanita should not buy the stickers at all, but should agitate for the government to provide an equal amount of stickers to everyone. Social Justice by Scratch-n-Sniff. Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone but Likes This Post at December 06, 2013 09:58 PM (wiDhi) Numbers are just an oppressive social constructÂ…

Posted by: Critical Number Theory Graduate Student fighting against the pejorative label "negative numbers" at December 06, 2013 06:01 PM (Vk2pI)

188 Mandela didn't go Mugabe. And he no doubt could have. So ... thanks for not being super, extra evil and, as Communists go, having a relatively low body-count.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 06, 2013 06:01 PM (ZPrif)

189 Hey TR Rodent Infidel Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian ----------------------- I have found that managing rodents is more about expectations than anything else. I stay up late, again, drink a crap-load of scotch, again, and I don't here them in the walls anymore...

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:02 PM (4Mv1T)

190 http://tinyurl.com/ledtrjp Read the article. See if you EVER hear the real reason he was arrested ANYWHERE else

Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 06:02 PM (b7yum)

191 175 >Tonight: Mostly clear, with a low around -21. Q: Where do you go when the weekend's highs aren't expected to break -5? A: Ice fishing. Posted by: Moxie at December 06, 2013 09:59 PM I would say yes with tip ups & Mr. Fucking Heater. I'm locked inside with my Walker

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 06, 2013 06:02 PM (HVff2)

192 *hear* them, damnit.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:03 PM (4Mv1T)

193 There is a difference between word problems and poorly worded word problems that come across like trick questions.

It's not a "trick question"--it's just missing one piece of information: how generous does she want to be? She's either making 4 bags or 6 bags, and she doesn't want any leftover, so the answer is very clearly a multiple of 4 and 6. Just can't figure out which multiple without more information.

There's no tricks at all, it's very clear except for the one thing. Like my mulch example. Very clear except for one thing.

Now, if you want to bitch that it's "anti-male" because it's stickers and not toy soldiers, that's something different altogether. And risible.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 06:03 PM (hO8IJ)

194 Speaking of Richard Blaine, Casablanca comes on at midnight, TCM. Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 09:54 PM quite possibly my mostest favorite movie EVAH...dvd copy within arm's reach...I may not wait until midnight and "Richard Blaine" as a twitter handle? Pure genius; I shouldn't have waited so long to become a twit. I'm sure "Captain Renault" is already taken, as well

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 06:03 PM (JMmQ9)

195 Possession of a slingshot is a felony where I live. Regulation of forked branches and rubber tubing just around the corner I guess.

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker, Needs a Hugs and a Sedative, Wears Prada at December 06, 2013 06:03 PM (GeVLX)

196 Mandela didn't go Mugabe. And he no doubt could have. So ... thanks for not being super, extra evil and, as Communists go, having a relatively low body-count. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 06, 2013 10:01 PM (ZPrif) It's more profitable to keep the Whites around and under your boot than to kill 'em off. Mandala and Winnie lived very well and weren't interested in redistributing their wealth to the poorÂ…

Posted by: Used Tyre Salesman promoting "Afrikaaner" special at December 06, 2013 06:03 PM (Vk2pI)

197 188 Mandela didn't go Mugabe. And he no doubt could have. So ... thanks for not being super, extra evil and, as Communists go, having a relatively low body-count. Mandela got bought off and Mugabee did not have the largest gold and diamond mines in the world to save his ass. He's got diamond mines, but no one will work them because..Mugabee.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 06:04 PM (0FSuD)

198 Hey, BTH!!! {{{{{}}}}} Life is a little weird right now, and for the foreseeable future. I miss a lot of threads, but I am always with you in spirit. How you doing?

Posted by: Peaches at December 06, 2013 06:04 PM (8lmkt)

199 189 Hey TR Rodent Infidel Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian ----------------------- I have found that managing rodents is more about expectations than anything else. I stay up late, again, drink a crap-load of scotch, again, and I don't here them in the walls anymore... Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 10:02 PM (4Mv1T) Well once you've located there suspected entrances you can come up with a good game plan, good luck

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 06, 2013 06:05 PM (HVff2)

200 I would say yes with tip ups & Mr. Fucking Heater. I'm locked inside with my Walker Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian -------------------- So how's the bionic man doing, anyway? Meds working? I burned the shit out of my hand today on the muffler of a power tool. I can't imagine being sliced and diced as you were earlier this week. Hope you're feeling better.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:05 PM (4Mv1T)

201 That was the nightly closing song at a bar called The Fifth National Banque in Norfolk -- early 80's

Posted by: PMRich at December 06, 2013 10:00 PM (KDUNf)

Been a long time since I've been to The Banque.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 06:05 PM (yh0zB)

202 Purp got it right - buy ZERO fuckin stickers and all your friends will be happy they were treated the same.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 06, 2013 06:05 PM (80R0X)

203 Hey Peaches! Maddie has been well, went to Disney World last month I think. Other than the scars appears none the worse for the wear.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 06:06 PM (sQ0LB)

204 Have you looked at Samaritan Ministries? Assuming that you don't have the theological hangups that we do, it could really be a great program $370/ month for the entire family, less for a couple.

Posted by: Lauren at December 06, 2013 09:47 PM (hFL/3)

That looks interesting. Went to check washington's website again to see if there are any new plans (state run exchange) and it is still down. It has been down for over three days now.

Posted by: NWConservative at December 06, 2013 06:06 PM (M1gmo)

205 quite possibly my mostest favorite movie EVAH...dvd copy within arm's reach...I may not wait until midnight I agree totally. The DVD version is soo much better. They cut a lot of shit out of the TCM version. He's looking at you kid. Now where is my damn copy.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 06:06 PM (0FSuD)

206 I have found that managing rodents is more about expectations than anything else. I stay up late, again, drink a crap-load of scotch, again, and I don't here them in the walls anymore... Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 10:02 PM (4Mv1T) A good pair of hearing protectors and Yoko Ono blasting on the Bose. Rodents flee.

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker, Needs a Hugs and a Sedative, Wears Prada at December 06, 2013 06:06 PM (GeVLX)

207 Apart from the Texans, I'm doing okay. 11 straight hours of work today but hey, overtime.

I hope to be far away from here during the Broncos / Texans game

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 06:07 PM (Nsoq9)

208 And I'm back. BC, in your honor I'm drinking Jim Beam. Even mixed, it barely qualifies as bourbon. Where's toby? I need a dirty joke.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 06, 2013 06:07 PM (eQJwb)

209 I'm quite pleased to live where I can sometimes wear flip flops and shorts in December. Just for typing that, we will probably be stationed in Alaska next.

Posted by: no good deed at December 06, 2013 06:07 PM (HsJeN)

210 You are kidding me right? Can't we do something like this when the weather is compatible? I'm in that area twice a year. Posted by: Molly k. at December 06, 2013 09:21 PM (V4Dp4) Molly, we'e love to see you at a meet up! Are you in the Yahoo group? I'd like to know what your availability is so we can plan a good location/date next time.

Posted by: Mindy at December 06, 2013 06:07 PM (GRLuN)

211 Well once you've located there suspected entrances you can come up with a good game plan, good luck Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian --------------------------- I think I found they're entrance to my fortress of solitude. I bricked it up, and stuffed steel wool in some other spots in the attic. I bought a gallon of Rozol rat poison. Die you furry little farks.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:08 PM (4Mv1T)

212 I don't drink coffee or tea. But enough dt mtn dews and energy drinks to jumpstart a 747.

Lot of acid in Mt. Dew.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 06:08 PM (hO8IJ)

213 45 This ONT was a masterpiece, a veritable Zen of casual nihilism that embraces the coming post-despair America, where nothing is left but the flames set in motion by liberal dreams made manifest in all their incendiary and self-destructive glory. Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 09:27 PM (sQ0LB) --------------------------------------- Damn, that was good. As good as the ONT itself.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 06, 2013 06:08 PM (dfYL9)

214 @205 Fuck I can not type tonight Here's looking at you kid.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 06:08 PM (0FSuD)

215 The magic is the manifestation of the successfulness of affirmative action.When it raises all those whom are unworthy such that "The One" is the ultimate beneficiary, its job is done and needed no more.

Posted by: Ringo Phonebon at December 06, 2013 06:09 PM (mt4PO)

216 Oh boy! A slingshot thread. It's about time. We can talk rubbers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 06, 2013 06:09 PM (aDwsi)

217 If you have one of these is it still Ice Fishing?

http://www.milacaicecastlefishhouses.com/houses/grand-castle.html

Posted by: The Hickster at December 06, 2013 06:09 PM (TI3xG)

218 Lot of acid in Mt. Dew. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 10:08 PM (hO8IJ) Yup. So now I'm rocking the acid reflux and "multiple baby ulcers". Yay me.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 06:10 PM (GEICT)

219 "Went to check washington's website again to see if there are any new plans (state run exchange) and it is still down. It has been down for over three days now." I feel your pain! I have yet to successfully get on healthcare.gov. 2 months without a successful log in...just like Amazon,right? Have you looked on Value Penguin? I don't know how often they update, but I have seen new plans pop up there from time to time.

Posted by: Lauren at December 06, 2013 06:10 PM (hFL/3)

220 The question is horribly worded, but the answer is 12 stickers, I believe. I think the intent is to say that she does not know if 4 or 6 of her friends are coming. By purchasing 12 stickers, she can divide them evenly either way. But MAN, horribly worded. No kid should be expected to get that.

Posted by: mcg at December 06, 2013 06:10 PM (4kr86)

221 Fuck it's still 70 degrees outside. Better crank up the A/C. Prayers for you cold morons.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 06:10 PM (0FSuD)

222 Oh boy! A slingshot thread. It's about time. We can talk rubbers. Posted by: Mike Hammer --------------------------- I like 'em like that. You can say whatever you want. Nobody sees it 7 minutes later.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:10 PM (4Mv1T)

223 You can't call it anti-male based on one confusing question. Tricky word problems with extra information are good for boys and girls alike---we all need to practice the skill of determining which info is necessary in practical situations. That question is some bullshit, but saying "trick question/confusing word problems are antimale" strikes me as similar to claiming nonfiction reading or science instruction is anti-female.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone but Likes This Post at December 06, 2013 06:10 PM (wiDhi)

224 A slingshot thread

The longbow and crossbow partisans will put an end to that right quick

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 06:11 PM (Nsoq9)

225 186 Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 10:01 PM (0FSuD)

My mistake @sven10077...

anyway there is a chorus of raccoons and my avatar is a snarling raccoon

Posted by: sven at December 06, 2013 06:11 PM (9jfyN)

226 And I'm back. BC, in your honor I'm drinking Jim Beam. Even mixed, it barely qualifies as bourbon. Good stuff. But if you're looking to get drunk 1981 style, double Jack and cokes.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 06:11 PM (GEICT)

227 we're rockin' the zeros up here in the front range until Thursday

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 06:11 PM (Nsoq9)

228 wrist rockets and cross bows go together quite well, I think

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 06:12 PM (Iu2bR)

229 yeah the answer is also 72, 84 etc etc

now back in the 70s I was taught you had a duty to reduce the number to the lowest common denominator as reflex so there's that as well

Posted by: sven at December 06, 2013 06:13 PM (9jfyN)

230 Good evening, Horde! My girlfriend and I have had a spa evening. She has a French manicure, red toenails, and streaked hair... I have sparkly silver nails because I'm apparently a 12-year-old girl. She quit working awhile ago and needed a pick-me-up, and I good at this beauty-treatment crap.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 06, 2013 06:13 PM (N/cFh)

231 Help. I need another beer and I'm trapped under a cat.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 06:13 PM (hO8IJ)

232 Fuck I can not type tonight Here's looking at you kid. Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 10:08 PM I knew what you meant. I had about talked myself out of watching it tonight, but I keep hearing this little voice whispering "Ingrid Bergman"... so, I may been inattentive for the next two hours

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 06:13 PM (JMmQ9)

233 I feel your pain! I have yet to successfully get on healthcare.gov. 2 months without a successful log in...just like Amazon,right?

Have you looked on Value Penguin? I don't know how often they update, but I have seen new plans pop up there from time to time.

Posted by: Lauren at December 06, 2013 10:10 PM (hFL/3)

No because washington state's website doesn't make you create an account to look at health plans like the fed one does. They have the full prices listed with a subsidy calculator if you qualify (I don't of course).

Posted by: NWConservative at December 06, 2013 06:14 PM (M1gmo)

234 @225 Oh shit, I shot his brother!

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 06:14 PM (0FSuD)

235 Two places that email me with deals to re-supply fucks are J and G Sales in Prescott AZ, and Aim Surplus in Middletown, OH. They may be out of the M855 62 Gr. green tip right now, but probably have some Wolf 55 Gr. steel cased. Both reputable companies I've done business with.

Posted by: The Norweigan Fir at December 06, 2013 06:14 PM (wgzFF)

236 So I go in one day and my daughter wants to quit. I find out later the guy had slapped her for talking. My son still wants to go and I'm chewing on this when; here's the good part...A couple days later he's going to do a demonstration to show how bad ass he is and I look athletic so he asks me to participate. He says "Hit me in the face." I say "Really?" he says yes. So I hit that fucker so hard he needed dental repair.

*applause*

I hope that none of the other parents let you buy your own beers for awhile.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 06:14 PM (Nsoq9)

237 231 Help. I need another beer and I'm trapped under a cat. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 10:13 PM (hO8IJ) *blasts airhorn at cat* There you go. You're welcome.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 06:14 PM (GEICT)

238 It's not a "trick question"--it's just missing one piece of information: how generous does she want to be? She's either making 4 bags or 6 bags, and she doesn't want any leftover, so the answer is very clearly a multiple of 4 and 6. Just can't figure out which multiple without more information. Wait, where does it state that the the six bags or 4 bags were per person. That seemed to be a total number. Thus both 24 and 12 could be answers not consistent with the question stated. The question seems to state that the choice is between 4 total bags and 6 total bags. Without knowing the number of friends, it becomes impossible to answer. One must infer the number of friends or infer that the number of friends is unknown but that 4 or 6 would somehow satisfy. There's no tricks at all, it's very clear except for the one thing. Like my mulch example. Very clear except for one thing. The mulch question requires assumptions to be made. In order to fully answer that question, one would need to know: What percentage of the total area would be covered; is it just to cover, or to cover at a certain depth; and what volume/weight of mulch covers how much area? Now, if you want to bitch that it's "anti-male" because it's stickers and not toy soldiers, that's something different altogether. And risible. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 10:03 PM (hO8IJ) It ain't got jack to do with stickers or toy soldiers. It's about a question that forces people to make assumptions and pseudo-random inferences. It is not clear what the question is even asking! It's badly written.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 06, 2013 06:14 PM (Vk2pI)

239 What happened to liberals? They used to be stupid and gullible, but now they're fucking brain-damaged. It's like they really have all gone literally insane.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 06, 2013 06:15 PM (JexlF)

240 HeyTR, hanging in there. Thanks for the well wishes. Bet don't hurt as bad as Little TR

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 06, 2013 06:15 PM (HVff2)

241 >>>But if you're looking to get drunk 1981 style, double Jack and cokes. Nope. Jack tastes like sour mash, acid reflux and regret.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 06, 2013 06:15 PM (eQJwb)

242 ALSO I AM DONE CLASSES DIID I TELL YOU. NO I AM NOT AT ALL EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 06, 2013 06:15 PM (N/cFh)

243 I keep hearing this little voice whispering "Ingrid Bergman". "Oh, Rick I love you, I have always loved you. I can't do any more thinking, you will have to do the thinking for both of us." OK, but first, lets fuck, just one more time, off camera.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 06:15 PM (0FSuD)

244 Heather you haven't trained the cat to fetch your beer yet? Tsk, tsk.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone but Likes This Post at December 06, 2013 06:15 PM (wiDhi)

245 wrist rockets and cross bows go together quite well, I think Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 10:12 PM Add PVC bows to the list...

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 06:16 PM (JMmQ9)

246 Let's see... Rain then sleet now snow and my snow boots won't be delivered from LL Bean until next week. Fuck.

Posted by: mpfs at December 06, 2013 06:16 PM (x8AwZ)

247 Not 42 stickers?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 06, 2013 06:16 PM (kFy87)

248 now back in the 70s I was taught you had a duty to reduce the number to the lowest common denominator as reflex so there's that as well

Yeah, 10/24 is mathematically correct but only 5/12 gets marked correct on the test.

My grandma taught me fractions. She dropped out in 11th grade.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 06:16 PM (hO8IJ)

249 -16 here now. I hate winter. At least I don't live in North Dakota anymore. You get used to -35 (no wind chill) a few times. We would start cars at half time of the basketball games so you had a chance of starting again after the game. So I moved to Montana. High tomorrow is -5. I did buy 4 cases of beer today.

Posted by: free tibet, etc. at December 06, 2013 06:17 PM (jAc/f)

250 Nope. Jack tastes like sour mash, acid reflux and regret. Posted by: DC in Towson at December 06, 2013 10:15 PM (eQJwb) Your point?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 06:17 PM (GEICT)

251 >>>>My girlfriend and I ~~have had a spa evening. She has a French manicure, red toenails, and streaked hair... I have sparkly silver nails because I'm apparently a 12-year-old girl.~~ I'm sorry, you lost me after "my girlfriend and I"

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 06, 2013 06:18 PM (eQJwb)

252 @232 Speaking of Twitter handles, I bet Victor Laszlo is still available.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 06:18 PM (0FSuD)

253 239 What happened to liberals? They used to be stupid and gullible, but now they're fucking brain-damaged. It's like they really have all gone literally insane.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 06, 2013 10:15 PM (JexlF)

I've said this before, but my boss has said that Obama comes to her in dreams and tells her to fight the rethuglikkkans.

Posted by: NWConservative at December 06, 2013 06:18 PM (M1gmo)

254 HeyTR, hanging in there. Thanks for the well wishes. Bet don't hurt as bad as Little TR Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian ------------------------ He's going back to work at the supermarket Monday. He can't really lift anything, but he can punch a cash register. He recovered much quicker than we expected. Ah, youth.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:18 PM (4Mv1T)

255 Not 42 stickers? ---- The answer really is 42.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone but Likes Douglas Adams at December 06, 2013 06:19 PM (wiDhi)

256 He kept insisting he was a karate master, despite all the evidence. And went downhill quickly into violent threats and vowing to prove he was a karate master by going home and getting his gun. He came in all cocky in his karate master costume, and left in a mix of crying, screaming, and threatening revenge. Posted by: Flatbush Joe also known as holidays with sisters; my moms or mine .

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 06, 2013 06:19 PM (ya3AJ)

257 "You wore blue, the Germans wore grey"...

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 06:19 PM (JMmQ9)

258 246 Let's see... Rain then sleet now snow and my snow boots won't be delivered from LL Bean until next week. Fuck. Posted by: mpfs at December 06, 2013 10:16 PM (x8AwZ) Welcome to my past 48 hours. Only stopped snowing here about 4 hours ago.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 06, 2013 06:19 PM (bCEmE)

259 My girlfriend and I have had a spa evening. She has a French manicure, red toenails, and streaked hair... I have sparkly silver nails because I'm apparently a 12-year-old girl. I'm sorry, you lost me after "my girlfriend and I" Posted by: DC in Towson at December 06, 2 a french manicure with red nails?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 06, 2013 06:20 PM (ya3AJ)

260 NWC: I'm normally a pretty hard-core skeptic about all matters paranormal, but I have to admit I've seriously wondered over the past few years if Obama has some way to control people's minds.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 06, 2013 06:20 PM (JexlF)

261 Heather you haven't trained the cat to fetch your beer yet? Tsk, tsk.

He won't admit he can open the fridge. O_o

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ trinken trinken trinken at December 06, 2013 06:20 PM (hO8IJ)

262 253 NWConservative at December 06, 2013 10:18 PM (M1gmo)

but we're the crazy ones....

the United States is the world's largest open aired insane asylum

Here's a Playlist....

http://tinyurl.com/qjk33ve

Fallout Lore

Posted by: sven at December 06, 2013 06:20 PM (9jfyN)

263 Too bad about Willie Nelson Mandela dying. I loved his music and he was a great Democrat.

Posted by: joey biden at December 06, 2013 06:21 PM (4NEdy)

264 That starting-your-car-at-halftime might be an idea. My car's been sluggish lately, just leaving it all day in a parking lot.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 06:21 PM (Nsoq9)

265 more important than "DGAF" is "WTFIP" Where The Fuck Is Peaches

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 06, 2013 06:21 PM (ya3AJ)

266 263 Too bad about Willie Nelson Mandela dying. I loved his music and he was a great Democrat. Posted by: joey biden at December 06, 2013 10:21 PM (4NEdy) That and he had the best weed!

Posted by: Barry, Chom leader at December 06, 2013 06:21 PM (0FSuD)

267 251 I'm sorry, you lost me after "my girlfriend and I" Posted by: DC in Towson at December 06, 2013 10:18 PM (eQJwb) --- You can get yours done too if you like. I'll even polish up your head.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 06, 2013 06:21 PM (N/cFh)

268 Juan has 4 AK47s, 6 friends, and two 30-round magazines. Which Federal Agency should he contact, in order to make up the shortfall?

a) BATF
b) FBI
c) NOAA
d) NASA
e) all of the above

Fixed it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2013 06:22 PM (8Fl6F)

269 I came here for the waters .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 06, 2013 06:23 PM (WK8VM)

270 Good night, all. If you see Obama in your dreams, fight back!

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 06, 2013 06:23 PM (JexlF)

271 What happened to liberals? They used to be stupid and gullible, but now they're fucking brain-damaged. It's like they really have all gone literally insane. Posted by: Trimegistus --------------------------- It used to be just a political ploy. Now, it is a wide-spread, full-blown, fully-invested psychological infestation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 06, 2013 06:23 PM (aDwsi)

272 You can't call it anti-male based on one confusing question. Tricky word problems with extra information are good for boys and girls alike---we all need to practice the skill of determining which info is necessary in practical situations. That question is some bullshit, but saying "trick question/confusing word problems are antimale" strikes me as similar to claiming nonfiction reading or science instruction is anti-female. Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone but Likes This Post at December 06, 2013 10:10 PM (wiDhi) If faces with a question like that, the response ought to be "WTF are you asking?" If you are teaching mathematical principles, then you teach those principles. Once you know those principles than you can apply it. Women do tend to be more linguistically oriented, while men tend to be more spatially and numerically oriented. From my point of view, you have to parse out the poorly worded text and derive the numerical information with certaintyÂ… which you really can't do with the information given.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 06, 2013 06:23 PM (Vk2pI)

273 218 Yup. So now I'm rocking the acid reflux and "multiple baby ulcers".

Ouch. Shall I assume that you have had the breath test for the ulcer virus, and have checked to make sure that a fundoplication is not in order?

Posted by: Splunge at December 06, 2013 06:23 PM (bKA83)

274 268 Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2013 10:22 PM (8Fl6F)

Cut out the lackeys and dial up 1600 Penn Ave or George Soros

Posted by: sven at December 06, 2013 06:24 PM (9jfyN)

275 Where The Fuck Is Peaches Posted by: yankeefifth ------------------------------- She is/was here. The cold is not kind to her. I think we need to attach some jumper cables and give her a boost.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:24 PM (4Mv1T)

276 254 Ah, youth. Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 10:18 PM (4Mv1T) Well, I don't have that going for me. The PT was also a little surprised to see the extent of bruising. Oh how I love pt, snark

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 06, 2013 06:24 PM (HVff2)

277 She is/was here. The cold is not kind to her. I think we need to attach some jumper cables and give her a boost. Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2 cold? she is in el lay.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 06, 2013 06:24 PM (ya3AJ)

278 >>>I'll even polish up your head. There's a joke in there somewhere, I think. Also, I have hair now. And a beard, since my career is going all sorts of nowhere.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 06, 2013 06:24 PM (eQJwb)

279 239 What happened to liberals? They used to be stupid and gullible, but now they're fucking brain-damaged. It's like they really have all gone literally insane.

This. My theory is that success has ruined them. At some level, they knew their principles ought not to prevail, then they did. So they have to scramble to justify why they should, which is impossible. So their brains broke.

Posted by: Splunge at December 06, 2013 06:25 PM (bKA83)

280 Costco sells these little pills called acid reducer. If I am having bad gas, etc, I take one before bed. They work.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 06:26 PM (0FSuD)

281 Speaking of Twitter handles, I bet Victor Laszlo is still available. Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 10:18 PM slim to none Ugarte is probably still open, but who would want it? Lorre is the most excellent weasel ever, but who wants to identify with the uber-weasel? Switching movies, I'll bet that "Wilmer" (Elijah Cooke, Jr.'s character from "The Maltese Falcon") is still available

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 06:26 PM (JMmQ9)

282 cold? she is in el lay. Posted by: yankeefifth at December 06, 2013 10:24 PM (ya3AJ) house has no heat, she has the kitchen oven on and the door to it open Lavern and Shirley style

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 06:27 PM (Iu2bR)

283 cold? she is in el lay. Posted by: yankeefifth ------------------------------- It will be 44 tonight in Hell lay. She had the oven on for heat and sounded near "suicidal". Meaning, she won't do it, but wishes she was dead.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:27 PM (4Mv1T)

284 So, Kubiak got booted.

Years from now, the Texans will pretend this year just didn't happen.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 06:27 PM (Nsoq9)

285 From my point of view, you have to parse out the poorly worded text and derive the numerical information with certaintyÂ… which you really can't do with the information given. Posted by: The Political Hat at December 06, 2013 10:23 PM (Vk2pI) True. But it's a good experience for future employment where you work with idiots. "How many days to regression test just the new features or worst case, the most important 6"

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker, Needs a Hugs and a Sedative, Wears Prada at December 06, 2013 06:27 PM (GeVLX)

286 I came here for the waters . Posted by: awkward davies at December 06, 2013 10:23 PM Spot on. Are my eyes really blue?

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 06:28 PM (JMmQ9)

287 Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 10:27 PM (4Mv1T) hey! first

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 06:28 PM (Iu2bR)

288 She's one of CJ's neighbours, specifically. Must be an allergic reaction to cheeto dust

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 06:28 PM (Nsoq9)

289 230 Good evening, Horde! My girlfriend and I have had a spa evening. She has a French manicure, red toenails, and streaked hair... I have sparkly silver nails because I'm apparently a 12-year-old girl. She quit working awhile ago and needed a pick-me-up, and I good at this beauty-treatment crap. Silver and ginger go well together I'm sure.

Posted by: Northernlurker AKA Ragnar the Phillips screwdriver of Thor at December 06, 2013 06:29 PM (BLAfs)

290 @281 Yeah you are right there are three VL's one looks like a real hockey player. Wilmer, what a hoot. He shows up in a lot of WB pictures in the 30's 40's.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 06:29 PM (0FSuD)

291 288 boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 10:28 PM (Nsoq9)

I think I saw a mushroom cloud of orange dust to the west....

//H Reid esq from Searchlight

Posted by: sven at December 06, 2013 06:29 PM (9jfyN)

292
That math question is not a math question, but if it was a math question the answer would be 0.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 06, 2013 06:30 PM (caCiW)

293 Here's Joe Rogan talking about that fake Chinese Qi master getting his ass kicked by an actual mma fighter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJCA8s06c5U

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 06, 2013 06:30 PM (ZPrif)

294 I saw Fundoplication open for Esophagus, Evanston, IL, 1981

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 06, 2013 06:30 PM (aDwsi)

295 house has no heat, she has the kitchen oven on and the door to it open Lavern and Shirley style Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2 sigh, and here I am always too hot in nyc with the door and windows open to get a cross breeze. even worse one of my minor superpowers is warmer man - I throw off enough heat to warm anyone nearly instantly, without even resorting to naughty things. fyi one of my other minor super powers is dog man, nearly effin dog is instantly convinced we are best ever friends. not much but all I got so .

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 06, 2013 06:30 PM (ya3AJ)

296 "My garden is twelve feet long and three feet wide, how much mulch do I need?" What is this mulch you speak of?

Posted by: mpfs at December 06, 2013 06:31 PM (x8AwZ)

297 hey! first Posted by: Sid ----------------- By 60 seconds or less. Great minds, and all that.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:31 PM (4Mv1T)

298 Rum works on colds. This I know. Does it work on malfunctioning give a fuck switches?

Posted by: Northernlurker AKA Ragnar the Phillips screwdriver of Thor at December 06, 2013 06:31 PM (BLAfs)

299 It will be 44 tonight in Hell lay. She had the oven on for heat and sounded near "suicidal". Meaning, she won't do it, but wishes she was dead. Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2 naturally, not wanting to be on the wrong end of an angry Peaches, all warming offers are platonic only.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 06, 2013 06:32 PM (ya3AJ)

300 I saw Mushroom Cloud of Orange Dust open for Halestorm, Tempe AZ, 1991

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 06, 2013 06:32 PM (aDwsi)

301 Okay, I'm here. Now what? That's the extent of my wit / wits at the moment. It's a balmy 17Â° now, and by my and the sun's rising time, it's s'posed t'be... 1. Yes, not 0, not 2. 1Â°F. Picnic weather! You, too? Now to actually read the post & the best of comments...

Posted by: mindful the frozen-witted webworker at December 06, 2013 06:32 PM (WbOdn)

302 Great minds, and all that. Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 10:31 PM (4Mv1T) morons.......

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 06:33 PM (Iu2bR)

303 Just heard that Adult Swim will be airing AkiraÂ…

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at December 06, 2013 06:33 PM (Vk2pI)

304 So here's who I miss. Jones in CO. And Billy Bob, yea Billy Bob. Place ain't the same.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:33 PM (4Mv1T)

305 If you you do not reduce the fractions, you might have a wormhole in your pants. Peeing on the porch is pretty much the same result, just spy stuff, these days. Not that -17 below would keep the faithful from appointed rounds, and all.

Posted by: neal at December 06, 2013 06:33 PM (DEWE2)

306 fuckery

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 06, 2013 06:33 PM (ya3AJ)

307 Just a reminder, tomorrow is Pearl Harbor Day.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 06, 2013 06:34 PM (aDwsi)

308 Ouch. Shall I assume that you have had the breath test for the ulcer virus, and have checked to make sure that a fundoplication is not in order? Posted by: Splunge at December 06, 2013 10:23 PM (bKA83) Breath test? No. But waiting on lots of test results. Little soon for surgery option.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 06:34 PM (GEICT)

309 Place ain't the same. Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 10:33 PM (4Mv1T) they got banned?

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 06:34 PM (Iu2bR)

310 304 Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 10:33 PM (4Mv1T)

It never is the same TR....

I miss a lot of folk

Posted by: sven at December 06, 2013 06:34 PM (9jfyN)

311 "My garden is twelve feet long and three feet wide, how much mulch do I need?" What is this mulch you speak of? Posted by: mpfs at December 06, 2013 10:31 PM (x8AwZ) Much like Peanut Butter and Jelly sandwiches, mulch is RAAAAAAACIST!!1!

Posted by: Critical Garden Theory Graduate Student at December 06, 2013 06:34 PM (Vk2pI)

312 Yup

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:34 PM (4Mv1T)

313 TR, Jones is on twitter; not sure what happened to billy bob

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 06:35 PM (JMmQ9)

314 ust a reminder, tomorrow is Pearl Harbor Day. Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 06, 2013 10:34 PM (aDwsi) OhÂ… we know.

Posted by: Chinpokomon at December 06, 2013 06:35 PM (Vk2pI)

315 Eh, I agree that the question shown is bullshit for boys, girls or houseplants, unless there is an option of "I don't have enough information to answer". I agree that men tend to have different strengths than women. Where I part ways with you is the idea that it is anti-male to include questions that are designed to challenge a weakness that is more common in boys/men. There should be some confusing (not unanswerable) word problems *because* boys may need more work on those skills, and there should be plenty of plain-numbers drilling *because* girls may need more work on those skills. Tl;dr: the crappy question is not, by itself, evidence of anti-male bias.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone but Likes Douglas Adams at December 06, 2013 06:36 PM (wiDhi)

316 Almost eleven on Dec 6, sleeping with the Windows open. I asked my wife today if complaining about the heat would be inappropriate since I hate the cold, she said that would be. I feel terrible for the morons out west of here encased in ice. Be careful out there.

Posted by: traye at December 06, 2013 06:36 PM (2tOdJ)

317 It never is the same TR.... I miss a lot of folk Posted by: sven ----------------------------- I imagine there are many more I don't know. I got here fall 2012. I know most of you have been here much longer.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:36 PM (4Mv1T)

318 fuckery indeed

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 06:37 PM (ZPrif)

319 Miss Marple

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 06, 2013 06:37 PM (aDwsi)

320 304 So not Chemjeff???

Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 06:38 PM (b7yum)

321 >>>they got banned? Yep. Didn't see the Jones one, but Billy Bob had been flirting with the banhammer for a while.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 06, 2013 06:38 PM (eQJwb)

322 not sure what happened to billy bob Posted by: AltonJackson -------------------------- He's a loon, but comes from stomping grounds. We had too much in common, even though he is certifiable.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:38 PM (4Mv1T)

323 TR, You weren't here when Gator was around. He was hilarious.

Posted by: mpfs at December 06, 2013 06:38 PM (x8AwZ)

324 323 mpfs at December 06, 2013 10:38 PM (x8AwZ)

Heh I miss Jack Coldcuts, and Nam Grunt being more present

Posted by: sven at December 06, 2013 06:39 PM (9jfyN)

325 rum wicked pinto

Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 06:39 PM (b7yum)

326 but Billy Bob had been flirting with the banhammer for a while. Posted by: DC in Towson ------------------------ He was so outrageous, and didn't even know it. Made me laugh it was so crazy.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:39 PM (4Mv1T)

327 Stuck on Stupid

Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 06:40 PM (b7yum)

328 I think I have a fuck around here somewhere. brb...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 06, 2013 06:40 PM (0HooB)

329 December 17th is Spurwing Plover day. Remember to hoist one for the departed.

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker, Needs a Hugs and a Sedative, Wears Prada at December 06, 2013 06:40 PM (GeVLX)

330 ♬ To all the girls I humped before
In and out their backdoors
Humm-humm-hum-hum-hum-hum ♬

Bye-bye, Willie. You'll be missed.

Posted by: joey biden at December 06, 2013 06:40 PM (4NEdy)

331 Jan/Feb 2011 for me, but I don't use the same nick all the time. From work I post as Fred Q.

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 06:41 PM (Iu2bR)

332 304 So not Chemjeff??? Posted by: DAve ------------------------- And Chemjeff! Where'd he go? He's at an Applebees right now, I guarantee you. I was talking about those who can't come back.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:41 PM (4Mv1T)

333 I've said this before, but my boss has said that Obama comes to her in dreams and tells her to fight the rethuglikkkans.

Posted by: NWConservative at December 06, 2013 10:18 PM (M1gmo)

...does your company health plan include checkups from the neckups? cause I'm detecting a need...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 06:41 PM (yh0zB)

334 278 >>>I'll even polish up your head. There's a joke in there somewhere, I think. Also, I have hair now. And a beard, since my career is going all sorts of nowhere. Posted by: DC in Towson at December 06, 2013 10:24 PM (eQJwb) --- Shave it immediately. Ew.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 06, 2013 06:42 PM (N/cFh)

335 278 >>>I'll even polish up your head. There's a joke in there somewhere, Posted by: DC in Towson --- Shave it immediately. Ew. Posted by: Gingy @Gingy --------------------------------------- DO. NOT. MAKE. ME. stop this car. So help me.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:44 PM (4Mv1T)

336 billy bob getting banhammered would not surprise me. I wouldn't like it, but would not be surprised. Jones in CO is now a twit, now; fairly active. I can't imagine him getting the TB3K treatment, but maybe he got caught up in the Great Unpleasantness here at the HQ a couple of months ago.

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 06:44 PM (JMmQ9)

337 Shave it immediately. Ew.
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 06, 2013 10:42 PM (N/cFh)

We understand if his bearded manliness both frightens and excites you, but the beard is sacred.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 06, 2013 06:45 PM (lr3d7)

338 Interesting post.. I wonder what master Obama is up to. Americascivilwar.boogspot.com

Posted by: Darian at December 06, 2013 06:45 PM (pCf+a)

339 Looks like that Sid muddafucka is still at work

Posted by: Fred Q. at December 06, 2013 06:45 PM (wF/yx)

340 I believe girls should be drilled frequently too.

Posted by: roman polanski at December 06, 2013 06:46 PM (4NEdy)

341 So Road Boy # 2 is taking the SAT tomorrow. If he does well I'll have to spend a ton for a good school. If he does lousy, I'll have to pay a ton for a crappy little private school. I'm done either way.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:46 PM (4Mv1T)

342 Looks like that Sid muddafucka is still at work Posted by: Fred Q. at December 06, 2013 10:45 PM (wF/yx) Zip it punk

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 06:46 PM (Iu2bR)

343 December 17th is Spurwing Plover day. Remember to hoist one for the departed. Posted by: The Hobo Hooker, Needs a Hugs and a Sedative, Wears Prada at December 06, 2013 10:40 PM I did not know that. So noted.

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 06:46 PM (JMmQ9)

344 340 I believe girls should be drilled frequently too. Posted by: roman polanski at December 06, 2013 10:46 PM (4NEdy) Ew, gross. Oh, my way to spread awareness about the non-scariness of the vulva is to knit vag-scarfs. Do you want yours white or with streaks of red? Timing is important in answering this question.

Posted by: Vag-Knitter at December 06, 2013 06:47 PM (ZyqBH)

345 Looks like that Sid muddafucka is still at work
Posted by: Fred Q. at December 06, 2013 10:45 PM (wF/yx)

Zip it punk

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 10:46 PM (Iu2bR)

speaking of needing a checkup from the neckup...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 06:47 PM (yh0zB)

346 Why does this scarf smell funny?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 06:48 PM (yh0zB)

347 What up GGE? Cars and Coffee in the AM?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:48 PM (4Mv1T)

348 Say, what???

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 06:48 PM (T1005)

349 337 Shave it immediately. Ew. Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 06, 2013 10:42 PM (N/cFh) We understand if his bearded manliness both frightens and excites you, but the beard is sacred. Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 06, 2013 10:45 PM (lr3d7) --- I'm half Icelandic - I am lucky to have escaped one myself... It isn't the beard I'm afraid of, it's what he looks like with hair. --- Tobacco Road, DC lives five minutes drive from me on a bad traffic day.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 06, 2013 06:49 PM (N/cFh)

350 Jones in CO is now a twit, now; fairly active. I can't imagine him getting the TB3K treatment, but maybe he got caught up in the Great Unpleasantness here at the HQ a couple of months ago. Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 10:44 PM (JMmQ9) Story I got was that Jones crossed the line onÂ…violent rhetoricÂ…in regards to TFG.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 06:49 PM (GEICT)

351 I can't even tell you how hard I laughed at the Deadspin piece. Hilarious!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 06:49 PM (DmNpO)

352 TR - On the upside, I figure student loan forgiveness is in Barkys quiver..., and likely to be used. Probably too soon for your boy, however. Hmm. Come to think of it, ~~*you*~~ *we* are likely to end up picking up the tab for someone else's kid.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 06, 2013 06:50 PM (aDwsi)

353 Cars and Coffee in the AM?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 10:48 PM (4Mv1T)

Oil change in the AM. Lenoir in the afternoon.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 06:50 PM (yh0zB)

354 speaking of needing a checkup from the neckup... Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 10:47 PM (yh0zB) So how was the Lenoir trip?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 06:50 PM (0FSuD)

355 Where I part ways with you is the idea that it is anti-male to include questions that are designed to challenge a weakness that is more common in boys/men. There should be some confusing (not unanswerable) word problems *because* boys may need more work on those skills, and there should be plenty of plain-numbers drilling *because* girls may need more work on those skills. Tl;dr: the crappy question is not, by itself, evidence of anti-male bias. Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone but Likes Douglas Adams at December 06, 2013 10:36 PM (wiDhi) It's when such questions become the de facto norm of teaching, that the problem fully arises. Word problems are perfectly good, if they are well written. It is when they are poorly written or confusing where boys will tend struggle more than girls because the subtle nuances of language the inferences thereof becomes what is being taught rather than the simple mathematical principles. If we're taught the mathematical principles first, then it is easier to extract the pertinent information from the word problem, than to play word games and somehow divine the mathematical principles therefrom. Far too often boys are shamed and made to feel inferior for asking questions when the verbal explanation isn't clear, or the principle being taught isn't elucidated. I am a far better numerical and spacial person than a verbal one. I was doing basic algebra before I could read!

Posted by: Chinpokomon at December 06, 2013 06:50 PM (Vk2pI)

356 rum wicked pinto Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 10:39 PM also, editor and runningrn (although she's a daywalker now) and PGiS could come around more frequently...just sayin'

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 06:50 PM (JMmQ9)

357 Story I got was that Jones crossed the line onÂ…violent rhetoricÂ…in regards to TFG. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk ---------------------- I had heard that. You know he knew better. I think he must have decided to go out with a bang. He's not that stupid to make that mistake.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:51 PM (4Mv1T)

358
I!
Give!
Four!
Bags!

Posted by: Janita-Luc Picard at December 06, 2013 06:51 PM (bvtgt)

359

I've said this before, but my boss has said that Obama comes to her in dreams

.

Posted by: NWConservative at December 06, 2013 10:18 PM

Phrasing!

Posted by: stering archer at December 06, 2013 06:52 PM (9gNQd)

360 Salutations Morons! High School Basketball season kicked off tonight. Hagerstown was a long way to go in this shit weather. We lost too. The boy's senior year. Psyched.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 06, 2013 06:52 PM (jucos)

361 So how was the Lenoir trip?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 10:50 PM (0FSuD)

I'll let you know tomorrow after I make it.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 06:53 PM (yh0zB)

362 I had heard that. You know he knew better. I think he must have decided to go out with a bang. He's not that stupid to make that mistake. Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 10:51 PM (4Mv1T) He admitted to ace he was over the line. It was late, I think alcohol was involved.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 06:53 PM (0FSuD)

363 I had heard that. You know he knew better. I think he must have decided to go out with a bang. He's not that stupid to make that mistake. Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 10:51 PM (4Mv1T) Eh, it can happen. I did it one day. Made a joke offhand and it was over the line. Knew it about 1 second after I hit post. Fortunately it was overlooked.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 06:54 PM (GEICT)

364 Heaven help me before I blow through an artery. Geraldo Rivera ‏@GeraldoRivera 1m Star athletes get busted for steroids. But unless there's video of the crime, they usually get away with date rape

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 06:54 PM (DmNpO)

365 I'll let you know tomorrow after I make it. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 10:53 PM (yh0zB) Thought you said earlier you were going cruising looking for shit in Lenior. Sorry misunderstood.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 06:54 PM (0FSuD)

366 Here's Joe Rogan and Bas Rutten talking about fake karate bullshit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeA__6aVkK0 Rutten was UFC champ back in the late 90s.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 06:54 PM (ZPrif)

367 Story I got was that Jones crossed the line onÂ…violent rhetoricÂ…in regards to TFG. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 10:49 PM The Great Unpleasantness...now that I think about it, you may be right.

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 06:55 PM (JMmQ9)

368 and PGiS could come around more frequently...just sayin' I see her regularly. Who I haven't seen in a while is Ima Wurdibitsch.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 06, 2013 06:55 PM (0HooB)

369 I'm not going to dispute your premise, but math in the real word (except for the corner where AmishDude lives, but for the rest of us...) is nothing but word problems. My garden is twelve feet long and three feet wide, how much mulch do I need? That Common Core math problem would be a great example of an ill-posed problem. Except that it isn't supposed to be.

Posted by: Indiana AmishDude at December 06, 2013 06:56 PM (xSegX)

370 The deer hunters are thrilled the snow is coming down tonight. Fresh tracks in the morning. If they don't shoot themselves instead.

Posted by: mpfs at December 06, 2013 06:56 PM (x8AwZ)

371 Thought you said earlier you were going cruising looking for shit in Lenior. Sorry misunderstood.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 10:54 PM (0FSuD)

Nope, cruising around tonight with the top down while it's warm, going to Lenoir tomorrow afternoon for a toy run with the Mustang Forums crowd. I haven't decided if I'm actually going to drive the Mustang or not.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 06:56 PM (yh0zB)

372 sigh, and here I am always too hot in nyc with the door and windows open to get a cross breeze. even worse one of my minor superpowers is warmer man - I throw off enough heat to warm anyone nearly instantly, without even resorting to naughty things. fyi one of my other minor super powers is dog man, nearly effin dog is instantly convinced we are best ever friends. not much but all I got so . Posted by: yankeefifth at December 06, 2013 10:30 PM (ya3AJ) Sounds like you're going through menopause. Prayers, brother. *fist bump*

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 06, 2013 06:56 PM (oFCZn)

373 Geraldo Rivera ‏@GeraldoRivera 1m Star athletes get busted for steroids. But unless there's video of the crime, they usually get away with date rape Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 10:54 PM (DmNpO) The fuck is that even supposed to mean? And I'm assuming he's talking about the FSU kid. Fucking idiot might want to actually read the report released. It was investigated by the police and then again by the State Attorney. And that particular SA has shown anÂ…eagerness..in the past to go after FSU athletes. No charges filed.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 06:56 PM (GEICT)

374 He admitted to ace he was over the line. It was late, I think alcohol was involved. Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 10:53 PM (0FSuD) well since the JEF drives people to be booze-aholics I remember when B_L_A_Z_E_R burned down even this nic

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 06:56 PM (Iu2bR)

375 364 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 10:54 PM (DmNpO)

Yeah Gerry Rivers nothing disparate in the treatment of Duke LaCrosse...

and Johnny Football baby

Posted by: sven at December 06, 2013 06:56 PM (9jfyN)

376 I haven't decided if I'm actually going to drive the Mustang or not. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 10:56 PM (yh0zB) My vote no. What's the upside vs downside? Roads are going to suck up there.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 06:57 PM (0FSuD)

377 Geraldo Rivera ‏@GeraldoRivera 1m Star athletes get busted for steroids. But unless there's video of the crime, they usually get away with date rape and did you know that most pro athletes are Republicans?

Posted by: Heraldo at December 06, 2013 06:57 PM (1Y+hH)

378 Who I haven't seen in a while is Ima Wurdibitsch. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at December 06, 2013 10:55 PM This. And she hasn't posted on her blog in like, forever.

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 06:58 PM (JMmQ9)

379 373 BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 10:56 PM (GEICT)

Gerry was relitigating the Duke case and passive aggressiving the FSU case...

He's a Phil Donahue school Woman

Posted by: sven at December 06, 2013 06:58 PM (9jfyN)

380 Screw Jerry Rivers and the koi he swam in behind.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 06, 2013 06:58 PM (0HooB)

381 Rogan actually was a pretty accomplished Taekwondo fighter before he became a comedian. Here's an interview where Rogan talks about how he felt when he realized Taekwondo was bullshit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrH_Wfhk2kI Well, not total bullshit. Just very limited. Rogan had won real Taekwondo tournaments and then tried kickboxing and ... got destroyed. So he realized he could only beat people up who promised not to use their hands. Rogan said he realized he'd spent a lot of time getting really good at something that was dumb.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 06:59 PM (ZPrif)

382 Gerry was relitigating the Duke case and passive aggressiving the FSU case... He's a Phil Donahue school Woman Posted by: sven at December 06, 2013 10:58 PM (9jfyN) He's the fucking Paris Hilton of tv news.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 06:59 PM (GEICT)

383 GGE- Heck of a weather change tomorrow night from west to east. Careful in that overpowered RWD.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 06:59 PM (4Mv1T)

384 Who I haven't seen in a while is Ima Wurdibitsch.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at December 06, 2013 10:55 PM (0HooB)

I left a comment on her place a while back, she sent me an email saying she was taking a break from the crazy for a while. I'm guessing the crazy of real life is intruding.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 06:59 PM (yh0zB)

385 I miss Jones, but I understand why he can't be here.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 06:59 PM (Nsoq9)

386 The fuck is that even supposed to mean? And I'm assuming he's talking about the FSU kid. Fucking idiot might want to actually read the report released. It was investigated by the police and then again by the State Attorney. And that particular SA has shown anÂ…eagerness..in the past to go after FSU athletes. No charges filed. *** Yes, Jameis Winston. I checked his TL and he tweeted about him hours ago. If the fuck had even read the story he would have noticed that her story was very fishy right from the start. I tweeted about this story (yesterday or Wednesday) while waiting for the announcement about charges. I said that I bet Winston will not be awarded the Heisman now because it won't look good. I still bet that will be the case. Geraldo's bullshit is one reason why.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 06:59 PM (DmNpO)

387 Right, but by looking at one (again, piss poor) question, you can't tell that it is the de facto norm of instruction. It's one element of instruction, one that will encourage more girls and challenge more boys. If this sort of problem is the only sort, you're right, antiboy. But if it's not, then, no. But while we're on it, though, I do disagree that it's always better to *completely* master a given principle of math before seeing it practically applied, and I'm not sure it's even possible at the stage of development we're talking about. But potato, potahto.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone but Likes Douglas Adams at December 06, 2013 07:00 PM (wiDhi)

388 Careful in that overpowered RWD.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 10:59 PM (4Mv1T)

And that's why I'm thinking Subaru, because AWD.

BRB, gotta take intoxicated neighbor on a beer run. Better that than he goes by himself IYKWIM.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 07:00 PM (yh0zB)

389 Maybe ace should have a general amnesty for the New Year and un ban everyone. It would be chaos for a few weeks, but fun. What's the downside for him? He gets more traffic. There seems to a lot of folks missing or people passing on the HQ lately. That can not be good for business.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 07:01 PM (0FSuD)

390 I remember when B_L_A_Z_E_R burned down even this nic Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 10:56 PM I was there that day...he not only burned the bridge, he burned the river

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 07:01 PM (JMmQ9)

391 Hey all! What's up?

Posted by: EC at December 06, 2013 07:01 PM (doBIb)

392 I tweeted about this story (yesterday or Wednesday) while waiting for the announcement about charges. I said that I bet Winston will not be awarded the Heisman now because it won't look good. I still bet that will be the case. Geraldo's bullshit is one reason why. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 10:59 PM (DmNpO) I'll take that bet. That kid is so fucking good, so head and shoulders above everyone else, that it would be a joke if it went to someone else.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 07:01 PM (GEICT)

393

My wife was on hold with Anthem today for 1.5 hrs. The lady said she had 100 people on hold at he same time.

also..Geraldo is a cocksucker

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 06, 2013 07:02 PM (/7Xis)

394 389 Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 11:01 PM (0FSuD)

Well Barry's Magic Chaos Caliope ain't helping....

I have been hitting the gym more and going to get the hand looked at....

turns out I did some surgery on at least part of a muscle band subcutaneously and may have knocked out most of a whole band....

Go Car Boxing.

Posted by: sven at December 06, 2013 07:03 PM (9jfyN)

395 And she hasn't posted on her blog in like, forever. I know. I leave comments over there occasionally, but haven't heard from her in a while. I hope she's OK. Now that I'm gainfully employed, I'd kinda like to plan a trip up there to see a bunch of folk I haven't seen in a looooong time, and I want to look her up and see her 'Vette if she still has it. It'd be a micro MoMee.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 06, 2013 07:03 PM (0HooB)

396 I'll take that bet. That kid is so fucking good, so head and shoulders above everyone else, that it would be a joke if it went to someone else. *** I hope you're right because his talent should be all that matters when it comes to the award.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 07:03 PM (DmNpO)

397 Wife has the Sound of music remake with Carrie Underwood on in the background. Sounds pretty good, even though the critics praised her singing and panned her acting. FWIW

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 07:03 PM (Iu2bR)

398 also..Geraldo is a cocksucker Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 06, 2013 11:02 PM (/7Xis A Jewish Puerto Rican Cocksucker. Really, his mom was Jewish.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 07:03 PM (0FSuD)

399 I was there that day they sank the Space Battleship but I think I missed the *moment*.

The Yamato still sails in other venues under another name. He's better off now.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 07:04 PM (Nsoq9)

400 Cobra Snakes. Why did it have to be Cobra snakes.

Posted by: Indiana Jones and the temple of Doom Kitteh at December 06, 2013 07:04 PM (6fSty)

401 I haven't decided if I'm actually going to drive the Mustang or not. Posted by: GGE of the Moron ------------------ May be rainy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 06, 2013 07:04 PM (aDwsi)

402 389 Ace could call it the Unbanning Of The Damned Day.

Posted by: mpfs at December 06, 2013 07:04 PM (x8AwZ)

403 I hope you're right because his talent should be all that matters when it comes to the award. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 11:03 PM (DmNpO) Agreed. I hate FSU. But that kid is stone cold legit.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 07:04 PM (GEICT)

404 26 degrees here going to 16. Damn.

Posted by: AnnaS at December 06, 2013 07:04 PM (UN0/t)

405 turns out I did some surgery on at least part of a muscle band subcutaneously and may have knocked out most of a whole band.... Go Car Boxing. Posted by: sven at December 06, 2013 11:03 PM (9jfyN) I am there with you. Getting Carpal Tunnel operation and nerve repair done in Jan. OLD SUCKS.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 07:05 PM (0FSuD)

406 If LFG ever had an amnesty of the banned... oh man.

That shitty website would explode

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 07:05 PM (Nsoq9)

407 Just for the sake of laughs... Heard in my home just a few minutes ago: [my daughter to my grandson] "If you don't stop that, I will take your balls."

Posted by: Name at December 06, 2013 07:05 PM (kdYPC)

408 Sounds pretty good, even though the critics praised her singing and panned her acting. *** With this I concur. She's a singer, and as such, did a great job singing. She is not, however, an actress. I wouldn't expect a big film debut for her anytime soon.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 07:05 PM (DmNpO)

409 I think alcohol was involved. Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 10:53 PM Isn't that a pre-req for the ONT?

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 07:06 PM (JMmQ9)

410 Here is the Twitter feed of Jones: @BDJonesInCO Check the pics. He posted a funny comment about Hillary Clinton wearing a colorful garment. Called her Mrs. Roper.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 06, 2013 07:06 PM (oFCZn)

411 With Twitter I can throw jabs at will at the mean-spirited right! This is why we became journalists, to make a difference! Aiieeuh!

Posted by: Heraldo at December 06, 2013 07:06 PM (1Y+hH)

412 Isn't that a pre-req for the ONT?

well it's not like we can remove our pants in this weather

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 07:06 PM (Nsoq9)

413 406 If LFG ever had an amnesty of the banned... oh man. That shitty website would explode Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 11:05 PM (Nsoq9) Nah, no one even remembers LGF exists any more, let alone their nic and password. I haven't been over there in five years.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 07:07 PM (0FSuD)

414 also..Geraldo is a cocksucker>>

Not nearly as good as Cris Mathews though.

Posted by: Barry Sotero at December 06, 2013 07:08 PM (TI3xG)

415 Nah, no one even remembers LGF exists any more, let alone their nic and password. I haven't been over there in five years. Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 11:07 PM (0FSuD) Funny how many of us were there once. I was there in 2004-2005 I think. I migrated to Hot Air when that place opened in 2006 (I think).

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 06, 2013 07:09 PM (oFCZn)

416 TR start little TR2 to start checking out grants, scholarships etc. & good luck with the sat

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 06, 2013 07:09 PM (HVff2)

417 If LFG ever had an amnesty of the banned... oh man.

That shitty website would explode

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 11:05 PM (Nsoq9)

++++++++++++++++

Who the hell would want to go back there????

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 06, 2013 07:09 PM (jucos)

418 WTF it's been 70 in CLT for six hours straight. Still is.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 07:09 PM (0FSuD)

419 That prick Geraldo still owes me two hours for that Al Capone's vault shit when I was like 10 yo

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 06, 2013 07:09 PM (/7Xis)

420 Agreed. I hate FSU. But that kid is stone cold legit. Next season, all will have been forgotten. Or maybe after that. He's still a freshman. Dude is scary good.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 06, 2013 07:09 PM (0HooB)

421 Impressive KO in the UFC fight. Boom!

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 07:10 PM (ZPrif)

422 406 If LFG ever had an amnesty of the banned... oh man.

That shitty website would explode

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 11:05 PM (Nsoq9)

Other than to tell Charles to take a picture of the bridge he should ride his bike off of why would anyone go back? Besides the psycho Wild Irish Rose.

Posted by: buzzion at December 06, 2013 07:10 PM (LI48c)

423 I don't know if Eboni Williams on O'Reilly right now is a pinko or not, but staring at here rack with the sound off is mesmorizing.....

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 07:10 PM (Iu2bR)

424 So it begins....
DENVER (AP) - A baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex ceremony must serve gay couples despite his religious beliefs or face fines, a judge said Friday.

Posted by: Red Shirt at December 06, 2013 07:10 PM (FIDMq)

425 Other than to tell Charles to take a picture of the bridge he should ride his bike off of why would anyone go back?

I think you answered your own question.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 07:11 PM (Nsoq9)

426 419 That prick Geraldo still owes me two hours for that Al Capone's vault shit when I was like 10 yo I was older. We got drunk, so I am good with it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 07:11 PM (0FSuD)

427 Next season, all will have been forgotten. Or maybe after that. He's still a freshman. Dude is scary good. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at December 06, 2013 11:09 PM (0HooB) Redshirt Freshman. Which means, barring injury or a total collapse, he's coming out after next season.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 07:11 PM (GEICT)

428 heh, who knew 7 out of 10 doctors in CA were racist Republicans.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 06, 2013 07:11 PM (3CzNG)

429 Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at December 06, 2013 11:03 PM (0HooB) How's your lady friend....and how's the job going?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 06, 2013 07:11 PM (bCEmE)

430 So it begins.... DENVER (AP) - A baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex ceremony must serve gay couples despite his religious beliefs or face fines, a judge said Friday. Posted by: Red Shirt ---------------------------- He just needs to move to another country, er, city/state.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 07:12 PM (4Mv1T)

431 I could feng shui any of those martial arts bastids.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at December 06, 2013 07:12 PM (Dwehj)

432 I hope you're right because his talent should be all that matters when it comes to the award. A.J. McCarron is 36-3, and two of those loses are on his kicker. He also has 2 National Championships. He hasn't been flashy, but he's been a winner.

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at December 06, 2013 07:12 PM (QupBk)

433 So it begins.... DENVER (AP) - A baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex ceremony must serve gay couples despite his religious beliefs or face fines, a judge said Friday. **** He can force them to make the cake, but he cannot force them to make a good cake.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 07:12 PM (DmNpO)

434 DENVER (AP) - A baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex ceremony must serve gay couples despite his religious beliefs or face fines, a judge said Friday

If he's a true Christian, he'll refuse to pay the fine, and go to prison as a "Confessor". If he's killed in prison: "Martyr", and "Saint".

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 07:12 PM (Nsoq9)

435 419 That prick Geraldo still owes me two hours for that Al Capone's vault shit when I was like 10 yo

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 06, 2013 11:09 PM (/7Xis)

LMAO, I remember that and with the follow up 'special' by Father Guido Sarduci

Posted by: Red Shirt at December 06, 2013 07:13 PM (FIDMq)

436 For some reason I wound up rereading "Heart of Darkness" this week.

Man, the way everybody fawned over that Kurtz chap reminds me of Chris Matthews and his "tingle up the leg" for Obama. I mean, everybody let Kurtz do whatever he wanted and even lied to make him look good.

And how about this as a description of O's expedition up America's backside?

"But the wilderness had found him out early, and had taken on him a terrible vengeance for the fantastic invasion. I think it had whispered to him things about himself which he did not know, things of which he had no conception till he took counsel with this great solitudeÂ— and the whisper had proved irresistibly fascinating. It echoed loudly within him because he was hollow at the core. . . ."

Posted by: Tim Fountain at December 06, 2013 07:13 PM (8jm+y)

437 If LFG ever had an amnesty of the banned... oh man. That shitty website would explode Posted by: boulder toilet hobo Why would anyone want to return to Capt. Spazz' site?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 06, 2013 07:13 PM (uCNam)

438 I, ummmmmmmm, paint better that any, uhhhhhhhhhhhhh, of those martial artists.

Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at December 06, 2013 07:13 PM (jucos)

439 Well it would be nice if Tetsuo would blow up everyone at Cartoon Network with his powers.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 06, 2013 07:14 PM (kFy87)

440 Well batteries are running low & oxy shit is kicking in. Good nite horde, be well.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 06, 2013 07:14 PM (HVff2)

441 OK morons, going to get in bed and try to talk wife into letting me watch Casablanca for the 50th time, just so I can practice the lines. "round up the usual suspects" Night.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 07:14 PM (0FSuD)

442 Here's the Shogun KO. Just happened a few minutes ago. http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2013/12/1-4.gif Dude walked into that left.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 07:14 PM (ZPrif)

443 Hey all! So EC Jr had his first real date tonight. The wife and I took him and his date, a girl down the street, to the roller rink for a couple hours of rollerblade fun. They are both 11. He's got more game than me when I was that age. Good work son!

Posted by: EC at December 06, 2013 07:14 PM (doBIb)

444 TR start little TR2 to start checking out grants, scholarships etc. & good luck with the sat Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian -------------------------- If you have assets, they aren't sharing the wealth. We have it figured out. I just like bitching about it.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 07:14 PM (4Mv1T)

445 LMAO, I remember that and with the follow up 'special' by Father Guido Sarduci Posted by: Red Shirt at December 06, 2013 11:13 PM (FIDMq) My husband and I (well, mostly me) named our first dog Guido after him.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 06, 2013 07:14 PM (bCEmE)

446 DENVER (AP) - A baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex ceremony must serve gay couples despite his religious beliefs or face fines, a judge said Friday.

Posted by: Red Shirt at December 06, 2013 11:10 PM (FIDMq)

I sense a big market for capsaicin in time-release micro-capsules.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2013 07:15 PM (8Fl6F)

447 Other than to tell Charles to take a picture of the bridge he should ride his bike off of why would anyone go back?>>

I just got disgusted and left. Might be fun to go back and be properly Banned. The effort would be so minimal that it likely wouldn't be worth it though.

Posted by: Barry Sotero at December 06, 2013 07:15 PM (TI3xG)

448 DENVER (AP) - A baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex ceremony must serve gay couples despite his religious beliefs or face fines, a judge said Friday. Posted by: Red Shirt at December 06, 2013 11:10 PM (FIDMq) Been going on for a while. The baker should just bake the cake and put a figure of a man and a woman as husband and bride and declare that is his artistic interpretations and that anyopne is free to buy or not buy it as they darn well see fit. Some other thoughts on the matter: http://tinyurl.com/qa6sb8f http://tinyurl.com/kb4kf2s http://tinyurl.com/kff88ke

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 06, 2013 07:15 PM (Vk2pI)

449 Why would anyone want to return to Capt. Spazz' site?

Come on, admit it...you miss the bicycle, fence and tanker pics.

Posted by: Caharles Jonson at December 06, 2013 07:15 PM (Dwehj)

450 Anyway, this does demonstrate that Colorado law is anti-Christian.

Anti-Jewish, too. (Rabbinic Judaism may or may not allow for homosexuality - I haven't checked my Talmud - but it cannot allow for marriage as anything other than between one man and one woman.)

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 07:15 PM (Nsoq9)

451 A wedding is supposed to be a joyous occasion. What kind of fucked up mentality does it take to force someone to provide a service to you in direct contradiction to their beliefs? May their wedding be filled with the heavy odor of smug and fail. But mostly fail.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 07:16 PM (DmNpO)

452 @442 Holy shit, the guy hit him while he was down. Pretty rough shit.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 07:16 PM (0FSuD)

453 Good work son! Posted by: EC at December 06, 2013 11:14 PM (doBIb) Tell him to lock the bathroom door.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 06, 2013 07:18 PM (0FSuD)

454 May their wedding be filled with the heavy odor of smug and fail. But mostly fail. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse ----------------------------------------------- This should be etched in stone somewhere.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 07:18 PM (4Mv1T)

455 If I was forced to bake a cake for the Gheys it would be the WORST cake they ever had, and they would pay me up front.....

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 06, 2013 07:18 PM (jucos)

456 I want to ride my bicycle, I want to ride my bike.

Posted by: Caharles Jonson at December 06, 2013 07:18 PM (Dwehj)

457 On a side note, I've got ads on my blog and the fixed-fee for the next year will be determined by how many click-throughs it gets in the next few weeks. So, if all yall would be so kind as to occasionally click on 'em, I'd be obliged for the extra beer moneyÂ…

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 06, 2013 07:19 PM (Vk2pI)

458 May their wedding be filled with the heavy odor of smug and fail. But mostly fail. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 11:16 PM (DmNpO) and butt sex stank I really don't like Illinois Nazi's and militant homos I don't march around with a "I'm Straight" chip on my shoulder. Don't march around with your I'm gay chip either

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 07:19 PM (Iu2bR)

459 How's your lady friend....and how's the job going? Job is great. Good company and a good crew, many of them musicians of some stripe, strangely enough. Even the Head Dude plays guitar. I've already floated the idea of a company jam session. B'Gal gets released Monday. They're clearing up the strep infection that got into her lungs. Nothing too terribly serious, but both of us will quit smoking as a result, so there's that.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 06, 2013 07:19 PM (0HooB)

460 Posted by: Barry Sotero at December 06, 2013 11:15 PM (TI3xG)

I know at one point he was banning anyone who commented over at Blogmocracy under using the same nic they used at LGF.

That's what happened to me.

He would MONITOR the comments at blogmocracy and watch for any comments/clues who was commenting and if they were still able to do so at LGF.

That's how I got caught. I didn't know until the next day when I went to log on to LGF - BANNED

What a loon.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 06, 2013 07:19 PM (LSDdO)

461 444 TR start little TR2 to start checking out grants, scholarships etc. & good luck with the sat Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian -------------------------- If you have assets, they aren't sharing the wealth. We have it figured out. I just like bitching about it. Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 11:14 PM (4Mv1T) Feel your pain with 2 under grads. Actually I'm not feeling much of anything right now, ha

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 06, 2013 07:20 PM (HVff2)

462 Yeah, that last blow was unnecessary. But that's the rules. You keep punching until the ref stops the fight. Some guys would have held off there. The problem is sometimes with flash KOs the guy wakes up when he hits the ground. I've seen guys lose fights because they didn't follow through like that and the guy recovered. So most guys err on the side of brutality.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 07:20 PM (ZPrif)

463 Oh my goodness! I am so sorry. I must have mixed up the sugar and the salt when I was mixing the icing.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 07:20 PM (DmNpO)

464 Tell him to lock the bathroom door. Should've seen the look on his face when they announced Couples Skate. Hehe...

Posted by: EC at December 06, 2013 07:20 PM (doBIb)

465 If I was forced to bake a cake for the Gheys it would be the WORST cake they ever had, and they would pay me up front..... Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 06, 2013 11:18 PM (jucos) You'd be sued for discrimination. Better yet to then openly advertise that you'd bake a "wedding cake" for a human/animal "marriage" or a human/dating-sim character marriage, or a incestuous "marriage" or whateverÂ… And in all cases include a plastic figure of a man and a woman dressed as groom and bride, respectively. In that case, you are providing the same exact service regardless!

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 06, 2013 07:21 PM (Vk2pI)

466 451 A wedding is supposed to be a joyous occasion. What kind of fucked up mentality does it take to force someone to provide a service to you in direct contradiction to their beliefs? It makes sense if they never really cared about weddings or marriages in the first place.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2013 07:21 PM (xSegX)

467 Posted by: Barry Sotero at December 06, 2013 11:15 PM (TI3xG)>>

Oops sock fail

Posted by: The Hickster at December 06, 2013 07:22 PM (TI3xG)

468 The article quotes a few other cases going on, a florist in Washing State is on the hot seat for refusing services and New Mexico SC ruled against a photographer. Business owners not batting too good.

Posted by: Red Shirt at December 06, 2013 07:22 PM (FIDMq)

469 Should've seen the look on his face when they announced Couples Skate. Hehe... Posted by: EC ------------------------ Wait. There are no pictures? I was told this blog had pictures. You ALWAYS have pictures.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 07:22 PM (4Mv1T)

470 I sense a big market for capsaicin in time-release micro-capsules. Or you could always go old-school and substitute Ex-Lax for chocolate.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 06, 2013 07:23 PM (0HooB)

471 Job is great. Good company and a good crew, many of them musicians of some stripe, strangely enough. Even the Head Dude plays guitar. I've already floated the idea of a company jam session. B'Gal gets released Monday. They're clearing up the strep infection that got into her lungs. Nothing too terribly serious, but both of us will quit smoking as a result, so there's that. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at December 06, 2013 11:19 PM (0HooB) Good news all around! Wow...she'll have been in almost a week.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 06, 2013 07:23 PM (bCEmE)

472 446 I sense a big market for capsaicin in time-release micro-capsules.

Capsaicin is French for Soma, right?

Posted by: Anachronda at December 06, 2013 07:23 PM (U82Km)

473 Don't know 'bout same sex wedding cake but when I was in the Army we had a bunker full of amyl nitrate poppers, which were supposed to be used if the Russians hit us with "blood agent" chemical weapons.

Wonder if there's a peace dividend by which those can be included in Obamacare plans, as marital aids? Used to be a popular orgasm enhancer in the gay community.

Posted by: Tim Fountain at December 06, 2013 07:24 PM (8jm+y)

474 451 A wedding is supposed to be a joyous occasion. What kind of fucked up mentality does it take to force someone to provide a service to you in direct contradiction to their beliefs?

May their wedding be filled with the heavy odor of smug and fail. But mostly fail.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 11:16 PM (DmNpO)

Because for them its not simply about being happy together and celebrating their love. For them its about forcing those who don't agree with them into participating or face punishment.

Posted by: buzzion at December 06, 2013 07:24 PM (LI48c)

475 Well managed to write a few more words.

Night all.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 06, 2013 07:24 PM (kFy87)

476 406 boulder toilet hobo If LFG ever had an amnesty of the banned... oh man.That shitty website would explode Having once stepped in dogshit, and then miraculously have it publicly removed with no ill effects (i.e. being publicly banned) ... ... why would you take the risk of stepping dogshit again?

Posted by: Arbalest at December 06, 2013 07:24 PM (FlRtG)

477 Ok, the chips and homemade (mild/medium) salsa seems to be agreeing with me. That's good. I'm thinking what my dad said earlier this week is probably true, "You can have spicy stuff from time to time, but it can't be your whole fucking diet."

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 07:24 PM (GEICT)

478 Wait. There are no pictures? I was told this blog had pictures. You ALWAYS have pictures. The wife took pics of the two them skating together. I didn't want to embarrass them too much.

Posted by: EC at December 06, 2013 07:24 PM (doBIb)

479 Bi-cy-cle, BI-CY-CLE!1!

Posted by: Caharles Jonson at December 06, 2013 07:24 PM (Dwehj)

480 'Cause I understand you've been running from the man
That goes by the name of the Sandman
He flies the sky like an eagle in the eye
Of a hurricane that's abandoned

Posted by: unambiguiously anonymous at December 06, 2013 07:24 PM (e8kgV)

481 So sorry I mixed up the Ex Lax squares for unsweetened chocolate.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 06, 2013 07:25 PM (TI3xG)

482 And in all cases include a plastic figure of a man and a woman dressed as groom and bride, respectively.

In that case, you are providing the same exact service regardless!

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 06, 2013 11:21 PM (Vk2pI)

Hell, just include plastic figures of Barbie with a strap-on cornholing Ken.

And use KY jelly for the goop between the layers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2013 07:25 PM (8Fl6F)

483 Yet the White House went with a lie, claiming that Obama had never met his uncle.

Now that the lie has been exposed, thanks to testimony from Â“Uncle OmarÂ” at his deportation hearing, the White House says it got its facts wrong. Why? Chiefly because it relied on ObamaÂ’s book Â“Dreams From My Father,Â” which contained no reference to uncle Omar.

How ridiculous is this?

Posted by: Herbert Hoover at December 06, 2013 07:26 PM (e8kgV)

484 Should I also point out that the judge is in the most discriminatory profession known to man? Explain why only lawyers can be judges. That violates the 14th amendment.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2013 07:26 PM (xSegX)

485 Until the right stops playing nice nice, the left will continue to throw snit fits and tantrums.

Rewarding bad behavior never works.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 06, 2013 07:27 PM (LSDdO)

486 The wife took pics of the two them skating together. I didn't want to embarrass them too much. Posted by: EC --------------------------- EC- Repeat after me, "As a Father...It is my solemn sworn duty, to embbarras my soon to be teenage kid whenever, and wherever possible." Because they will assuredly do it to you.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 07:27 PM (4Mv1T)

487 How ridiculous is this?

Posted by: Herbert Hoover at December 06, 2013 11:26 PM (e8kgV)

Forget it Jake, its Obamatown

Posted by: Red Shirt at December 06, 2013 07:27 PM (FIDMq)

488 @457 Hat needs x clicks for beer money. All his beer money for the year is set by the ratio of "few" to "weeks." If Hat has y Morons stopping in (don't forget to subtract Y-not), how many bags of goddamn stickers will he buy?

My idea of a "story problem":

http://tinyurl.com/m473uwz

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 06, 2013 07:27 PM (xq1UY)

489 What we have in Barack Obama is not Â“the most transparent administration in historyÂ” but the most convoluted one.

Posted by: Herbert Hoover at December 06, 2013 07:29 PM (e8kgV)

490 Too pooped to pop. I'm out, friends and strangers. Tomorrow night.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 07:30 PM (4Mv1T)

491 Night TR.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 07:30 PM (GEICT)

492 486 The wife took pics of the two them skating together. I didn't want to embarrass them too much. Posted by: EC --------------------------- EC- Repeat after me, "As a Father...It is my solemn sworn duty, to embbarras my soon to be teenage kid whenever, and wherever possible." Because they will assuredly do it to you. Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 11:27 PM (4Mv1T) *pulls out stack of full mooner baby pics* I'm ready.

Posted by: EC at December 06, 2013 07:31 PM (doBIb)

493 Tomorrow night. Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 06, 2013 11:30 PM (4Mv1T) kill those rodents Tobacco Road

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 07:31 PM (Iu2bR)

494 Cya TR!

Posted by: EC at December 06, 2013 07:31 PM (doBIb)

495 Now imagine being Hetro and forcing Gay cake maker to make you that refused to sell you one.

We joke about wrecking the cake. But if they had Polonium they would use it.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 06, 2013 07:32 PM (TI3xG)

496 Damn, NIU really shat the bed when the spotlight was on.

Posted by: logprof at December 06, 2013 07:32 PM (fETNt)

497 Yo, EC, we ever determine whether a Christmas meet up was doable?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 07:32 PM (GEICT)

498
   Were I that bakery owner, there would be no cake, no fine paid and no more bakery.

   Send me to jail if you wish, but any further association with ANYONE would cease.

   Be sayonara, assholes.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 06, 2013 07:33 PM (SAMxH)

499 Yo, EC, we ever determine whether a Christmas meet up was doable? I may be traveling up north. I don't know yet. It's up to the wife because its her family. I'd love to though.

Posted by: EC at December 06, 2013 07:33 PM (doBIb)

500 Now imagine being Hetro and forcing Gay cake maker to make you that refused to sell you one. We joke about wrecking the cake. But if they had Polonium they would use it. Posted by: The Hickster at December 06, 2013 11:32 PM (TI3xG) ಠ_ಠ

Posted by: Yasser Arafat at December 06, 2013 07:33 PM (Vk2pI)

501 Yeah, I oughta put a link to Hat's place at my place. And speaking of, I actually posted something today. I'm proud that I remembered how to do it. It's a funny Trek Christmas thingy I found this morning.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 06, 2013 07:34 PM (0HooB)

502 I've seen every blue eyed floozy on the way.

Posted by: Tim Fountain at December 06, 2013 07:34 PM (8jm+y)

503 I had hoped to offer my wit and wisdom until the small hours of the morning, but I must go watch Casablanca now tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 07:36 PM (JMmQ9)

504 Yeah, I oughta put a link to Hat's place at my place. And speaking of, I actually posted something today. I'm proud that I remembered how to do it. It's a funny Trek Christmas thingy I found this morning. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at December 06, 2013 11:34 PM (0HooB) Added to Blogroll.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 06, 2013 07:36 PM (Vk2pI)

505 @496 NIU has made mincemeat out of BGSU for decades, often when BG wasn't half-bad. There's a cycle to these things, within the "little" conferences. It was time, was all. Not too much savagery between plays, and a lot of hand-shaking at the end. Old fashioned college ball. Never make the grade in the Big Bowl series.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 06, 2013 07:36 PM (xq1UY)

506 I may be traveling up north. I don't know yet. It's up to the wife because its her family. I'd love to though. Posted by: EC at December 06, 2013 11:33 PM (doBIb) Ok, yeah, would love to see if we could manage it. I know AtC was interested. We drive up on the 24th and will prob drive back on the 4th.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 07:36 PM (GEICT)

507 And AJ is out. Night AJ.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 07:37 PM (GEICT)

508
Teaching young son the value of the cooter is a very important life lesson.
Without the furry little friend, all is lost.

Posted by: Father Time at December 06, 2013 07:38 PM (pJF+c)

509 Hey IG! I don't know that I've seen you so pithy when angry before.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 07:38 PM (sQ0LB)

510 505 @496 NIU has made mincemeat out of BGSU for decades, often when BG wasn't half-bad. There's a cycle to these things, within the "little" conferences. It was time, was all. Not too much savagery between plays, and a lot of hand-shaking at the end. Old fashioned college ball. Never make the grade in the Big Bowl series. Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 06, 2013 11:36 PM (xq1UY) --Except for FSU-Duke, I thought NIU beating BG was the surest sure thing of the championship games. Nevertheless, Lynch had a solid game stats-wise.

Posted by: logprof at December 06, 2013 07:39 PM (fETNt)

511 PRESIDENT OBAMA: By the way, Christmas time is no time for Congress to tell more than 1 million of these Americans that they have lost their unemployment insurance, which is what will happen if Congress does not act before they leave on their holiday vacation.

Meanwhile back at the White House:

The White House will not insist that an emerging budget deal include an extension of the unemployment benefits program set to expire at the end of the year, press secretary Jay Carney said on Friday.

Carney said that it would be Â“terrible to tell more than a million families across the country just a few days after Christmas that they're out of benefits,Â” but that the White House was agnostic on how the extension happened.

Posted by: Gregg O. McCrary at December 06, 2013 07:39 PM (e8kgV)

512 We drive up on the 24th and will prob drive back on the 4th. Ok, I will keep that in mind.

Posted by: EC at December 06, 2013 07:40 PM (doBIb)

513 Minimum number is 16. Since friends and stickers are plural, the number has to be at least two. The number of bags is four or six. With a minimum of four bags of two stickers each to two friends each, the number has to be at least sixteen. In the absence of any real information that is the lowest number you can get from that question.

Posted by: Bill R. at December 06, 2013 07:40 PM (Vhg+d)

514 Added to Blogroll. Ditto.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 06, 2013 07:41 PM (0HooB)

515 The gay couple is hiring the baker to bake a cake not to approve of their marriage. Would you refuse to bake a birthday cake for a pregnant teenager? I get that folks don't want to be forced to do business with folks that violate their strongly held beliefs, but from the customer's point of view you just slapped them in the face. Why not just bake the cake and let them be on their way? That's my Devil's Advocate scene for the night.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 07:42 PM (AO9UG)

516 I don't see Tonga in any of the World Cup groups. What gives?

Posted by: Tim Fountain at December 06, 2013 07:43 PM (8jm+y)

517 Warming up for Casablanca is Claudette Colbert in next-to-nothin as Cleopatra. Other than the color and the screen width, you wonder why they bothered with Liz. Hotcha, hard to believe her grandson Stephen turned out to be so dumb and ugly.

A-heh.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 06, 2013 07:44 PM (xq1UY)

518 @ 509

    CC, long ago that red line that you draw would have been reached.

    And enforced--unlike a certain WH resident.

    I reached my sticking point with the gay rights shit a while ago.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 06, 2013 07:44 PM (SAMxH)

519 Would you refuse to bake a birthday cake for a pregnant teenager? Apples and oranges.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 06, 2013 07:44 PM (VdOTu)

520 Would you refuse to bake a birthday cake for a pregnant teenager? So what if I did? It's my business. Who I serve and when I serve them should not involve the govt.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 07:45 PM (GEICT)

521 I don't see Tonga in any of the World Cup groups. What gives? Peruvia is also conspicuous by its absence.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 06, 2013 07:45 PM (0HooB)

522 Bi-cy-cle, BI-CY-CLE!1! Posted by: Caharles Jonson What a drama *Queen*...

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 06, 2013 07:45 PM (uCNam)

523 Why not just bake the cake and let them be on their way? Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 11:42 PM (AO9UG) Well cuz we are free to choose and free to deal with the consequenses, or at least we used to be free......

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 07:46 PM (Iu2bR)

524 Peruvia got left out, too?

Posted by: Tim Fountain at December 06, 2013 07:46 PM (8jm+y)

525 Would you refuse to bake a birthday cake for a pregnant teenager? So what if I did? It's my business. Who I serve and when I serve them should not involve the govt. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 11:45 PM (GEICT) I get that. So you would think it fair if the folks you turned away organized a private protest against your business?

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 07:46 PM (AO9UG)

526 IG, what I meant was that usually when you're torqued by something, you have a couple of legit paragraphs that go into depth about why you're aggravated. Not used to seeing a plain "F*ck those guys" type post from you.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 07:47 PM (sQ0LB)

527
If you are a PRIVATE business, who you serve or don't serve for whatever reason is strictly your own affair.

As long as you are willing to accept the consequences of your action everyone just needs to step back.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 06, 2013 07:47 PM (SAMxH)

528 eman: Why not just bake the cake and let them be on their way?

Because they're being forced to do it.

This isn't about whether or not the baker is correct in his religious views. If we were interrogate the baker in his full range of opinions, I'm sure we would turn up some material that disagree with our opinions. Probably quite a lot of material.

But we don't have access to unmanned drones and the US Military. The political establishment in Colorado does.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 07:47 PM (Nsoq9)

529 I get that folks don't want to be forced to do business with folks that violate their strongly held beliefs, but from the customer's point of view you just slapped them in the face.>>

And If somebody slapped me in the face why would I want their cake for my wedding? Is there only one cake maker in town?

Beelzebub's Advocate

Posted by: The Hickster at December 06, 2013 07:47 PM (TI3xG)

530 eman, I was sitting at a drive-thru this afternoon and suddenly thought of your jwest comment from last night and just started LMAO.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 07:49 PM (DmNpO)

531 I get that. So you would think it fair if the folks you turned away organized a private protest against your business? Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 11:46 PM (AO9UG) They're just as free to do as they wish as I am. Or as I should be. If they and their friends don't wish to do business with me, then that's their right. The government does not have the right to force two private parties into a contractual agreement.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 07:49 PM (GEICT)

532 Well cuz we are free to choose and free to deal with the consequenses, or at least we used to be free...... Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 11:46 PM (Iu2bR) And the customers are free to take action against you. I don't think they should use the government, but they can certainly not like your refusal and try to do something about it.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 07:50 PM (AO9UG)

533 #515: A baker or photographer who provides his services for a special event isn't just giving them what they want and letting them be on their way; he becomes an active participant.

You might as well tell a Catholic priest to let the gay couple have their wedding in his church and move on.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 06, 2013 07:50 PM (RGQmh)

534 Freedom of association.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 06, 2013 07:50 PM (TI3xG)

535 Yeah, the First Amendment used to guarantee the right of free association. *sigh* I miss the old days...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 06, 2013 07:51 PM (0HooB)

536 I don't think they should use the government, but they can certainly not like your refusal and try to do something about it. Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 11:50 PM (AO9UG) Yeah, like go find another baker. I'm betting there's quite a few of them. This has nothing to do with baking a cake and everything to do with forcing their beliefs on other people.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 07:51 PM (GEICT)

537 I don't think they should use the government, but they can certainly not like your refusal and try to do something about it. Posted by: eman But they are using the power of government to get their way. That *is* the actual case, if the article is to be believed.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 06, 2013 07:52 PM (uCNam)

538 534 Freedom of association.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 06, 2013 11:50 PM (TI3xG)

===

you are free to associate with everyone I tell you to.

the chocoration will be increased from 27 g to 14 g effective immediately.

Posted by: jc at December 06, 2013 07:52 PM (PlzOe)

539 534 Freedom of association.
Posted by: The Hickster at December 06, 2013 11:50 PM (TI3xG)
That hasn't existed in years.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 06, 2013 07:52 PM (XRt8X)

540 I don't think they should use the government, but they can certainly not like your refusal and try to do something about it.>>

And if they started a boycot you would be right but they did use the Govt that has no business in this.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 06, 2013 07:52 PM (TI3xG)

541 eman: Why not just bake the cake and let them be on their way? Because they're being forced to do it. This isn't about whether or not the baker is correct in his religious views. If we were interrogate the baker in his full range of opinions, I'm sure we would turn up some material that disagree with our opinions. Probably quite a lot of material. But we don't have access to unmanned drones and the US Military. The political establishment in Colorado does. Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 11:47 PM (Nsoq9) I understand that. I am trying to see if folks should have the right to protest the refusal, and I agree using the government to force people to take a job they don't want to take is wrong.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 07:53 PM (AO9UG)

542 Just got home from an evening with my Senator (Cruz) and Congressman (Gohmert), and it was time well spent. Spoke personally to each and asked them to continue being burrs under the old rino saddle.

Posted by: EROWMER at December 06, 2013 07:53 PM (OONaw)

543 Ingrid Bergman... I'll be in my bunk

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 07:54 PM (JMmQ9)

544 Its like forcing bar and restaurant owners to forbid smoking in their establishments. Although I have never been a smoker and won't even date someone who does, I voted against the anti-smoking amendment here in Florida. I have always known where my business is and is not welcome and have always been free to take it elsewhere.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 07:54 PM (DmNpO)

545 @ 526

    CC, this evening wife and I hosted a young Army couple for dinner.

    At the restaurant we had the great misfortune to have to listen to 2 gays making a loud scene about an alleged service discrimination. There was no reason for it to escalate to the extent it did.

    Everyone in the restaurant heard it and was embarrassed.

     I wish you could have seen the smug look on both their faces, you'd have stifled the same urge I did not to smack them both.

     So I'm still pissed.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 06, 2013 07:54 PM (SAMxH)

546 but they can certainly not like your refusal and try to do something about it. Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 11:50 PM (AO9UG) sure they can go someplace else, it is not like there is only one baker in the area

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 07:55 PM (Iu2bR)

547 How many bags of stickers do you have to buy for a gay wedding cake?
You can bet on Common Core having that story problem.

Had the baker refused the job (it usually isn't just a cake) "because the customers are assholes," nobody would have had a right to complain under law. Looks like both sides were intent on making a point, like the Monkey Trial.

Now, next term, when the Guaranteed Rights for Assholes Act is introduced, we'll all have standing of one kind or another.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 06, 2013 07:55 PM (xq1UY)

548 I am trying to see if folks should have the right to protest the refusal, and I agree using the government to force people to take a job they don't want to take is wrong.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 11:53 PM (AO9UG)

Yes, you should be able to protest the refusal. You should not, however, be allowed to use the courts and the power of government to force your opinion on others.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 07:55 PM (yh0zB)

549 For the gay couple its about what I figure the little every negative gay stereotype in one person on Survivor was trying to do. He had the chance to go on again with his "fiance'" All he wanted to do was to get on tv and rub it in all the breeders noses how happy him and his boyfriend are and they are going to get married. But once it became a returning players vs family members and no one on his team wanted to deal with his drama queen ways he quit. His boyfriend actually seems like a normal guy.

Posted by: buzzion at December 06, 2013 07:55 PM (LI48c)

550 The gay couple is hiring the baker to bake a cake not to approve of their marriage. Would you refuse to bake a birthday cake for a pregnant teenager? I get that folks don't want to be forced to do business with folks that violate their strongly held beliefs, but from the customer's point of view you just slapped them in the face. Why not just bake the cake and let them be on their way? That's my Devil's Advocate scene for the night. Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 11:42 PM (AO9UG) It's not about serving or not serving anyone. It is being forced to help express a behavior and choice that you find morally reprehensible. The 1st Amendment ought not to be waved if someone goes into business. It is like forcing a Jewish deli to serve pork at a banquet for neo-NAZIs. If the Jewish deli advertised that they do banquets, then shouldn't they be forced to give the neo-NAZIs the banquet they want? How is that different than a gay couple who go out of their way to sue someone who has a moral problem with it when others would happily help out? A business that is open to everyone should have to stand by that. But they should be able to do it the way they want and express themselves however they want.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 06, 2013 07:55 PM (Vk2pI)

551 I understand that. I am trying to see if folks should have the right to protest the refusal, and I agree using the government to force people to take a job they don't want to take is wrong. Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 11:53 PM (AO9UG) You're arguing against nothing. No one has said that the people who were refused don't have the right to never do business with him or talk poorly about his business or try and convince others to not go there.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 07:56 PM (GEICT)

552 Not to perpetuate a stereotype or anything, but imagine a gay couple running a floral shop. They do weddings, and one day a straight couple comes in wanting their services for their wedding.

Thing is, they recognize this bride... she's a deaconess at the local Baptist church.

Do they have the right to to turn her away? Absolutely. They have every right to tell her, "Hey, we know you don't support the idea of us getting married, so we're not going to take part in your wedding."

Why does this work one way and not the other?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 06, 2013 07:57 PM (RGQmh)

553 The government does not have the right to force two private parties into a contractual agreement

Oh but as sovereign, it does. It absolutely does have the right, to force you to marry - say - jwest. Or Helen Thomas! Who cares if she's dead?

Rather, the sovereign asserts that right; by right of the sovereign having the power, and by the fact of you not having that power. The Dark-Enlightenment critique of our Constitution pretty much boils down to just that.

The Dark-Enlightenment says that although Charles I has the right to boff your bride (or you yourself) - he won't do that. Because Charles I doesn't even really *want* your bride (or you). He knows that "prima-nocte" is just a means of asserting authority. True authority doesn't need to be asserted, except against enemies.

The fact that this government is forcing a business to serve homosexual perverts, only proves how insecure this government feels.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 07:58 PM (Nsoq9)

554 I understand that. I am trying to see if folks should have the right to protest the refusal, and I agree using the government to force people to take a job they don't want to take is wrong.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 11:53 PM (AO9UG)

I don't think anyone here has indicated that they should not be allowed to boycott or protest.

Posted by: buzzion at December 06, 2013 07:58 PM (LI48c)

555 Is "someone left the cake out in the rain" a defence?

Posted by: Tim Fountain at December 06, 2013 07:58 PM (8jm+y)

556 Yeah, like go find another baker. I'm betting there's quite a few of them. This has nothing to do with baking a cake and everything to do with forcing their beliefs on other people. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 11:51 PM (GEICT) Isn't the refusal a similar thing? Both sides are taking actions based on their beliefs. Imagine the gay couple attends a straight wedding and really enjoys the cake. They find out who made it and visit the bakery. They are refused business. They have money at the ready, have not broken the law, and have been refused business based on the baker's personal beliefs. Okay, then what? Their only option is to seek another baker? Why can't they do more? (Leaving the government out of it.)

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 07:59 PM (AO9UG)

557 Chris Matthews: Â“He came to us. He came amongst us.Â”

Relax donÂ’t do it
When you want to go to it
Relax donÂ’t do it
When you want to come
Relax donÂ’t do it
When you want to come
When you want to come

But shoot it in the right direction
Make making it your intention-ooh yeah
Live those dreams
Scheme those schemes
Got to hit me
Hit me
Hit me with those laser beams

Posted by: Frankie Goes To Hollywood at December 06, 2013 07:59 PM (e8kgV)

558 468 --- "New Mexico SC ruled against a photographer." Posted by: Red Shirt at December 06, 2013 11:22 PM (FIDMq) ----------------------------- This one is particularly disturbing --- the notion that an artist can be forced to depict whatever the state mandates, plus the requirement that you must physically attend (and thus participate in) an event you object to. Should a photographer be required to take pictures at an orgy? at a nudist wedding? at a Nazi rally?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 06, 2013 07:59 PM (dfYL9)

559 Frankly, I don't really give 2 shits either way on Teh Ghey marriage, but I do recognize the issue is currently fueled by a desire for cultural submission on the part of the Left. They, also, don't really care that much either way, but getting those that oppose gay marriage to kow-tow is their goal. It's subliminal revenge, and it's evil when they employ the government's guns to carry it out.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 06, 2013 08:00 PM (uCNam)

560 About the Gay Wedding Cake: IMHO, there's a great deal of forced societal pressure to say "Yes" to everything, regardless of what's being foisted upon us. Tolerance was once the mantra, but now we're being forced to accept what we once rejected. Say "No" to anything and watch what happens...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 06, 2013 08:00 PM (0HooB)

561 Why does this work one way and not the other? Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 06, 2013 11:57 PM (RGQmh) According to the rabid Left, straight is evil and can be discriminated against to achieve equality, while gay must always be accommodated, again in the name of equality. Same thing for race, biological sex, "gender preference," &c.s Inequality is the new equality. Black is white. The moon is just the sun out at night. There are FIVE fingers. There are FIVE lights. Right?

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 06, 2013 08:00 PM (Vk2pI)

562 So...this just happened. Was giving dinner to my kindergartner, and she was singing Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer. Ha ha, cute, right? Until she got to the last line.... "Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer, you'll go down in history - like Obama!" Uh. What.

Posted by: Fawn Dilmabals at December 06, 2013 08:00 PM (Mybop)

563 So I'm still pissed. Posted by: irongrampa at December 06, 2013 11:54 PM (SAMxH) I donÂ’t blame you one bit irongrampa. I would be pissed too. Did anyone say anything to them?

Posted by: Carol at December 06, 2013 08:01 PM (z4WKX)

564 http://tinyurl.com/my5ryaz

that is the article about the bakery.

Posted by: Red Shirt at December 06, 2013 08:01 PM (FIDMq)

565 498
Were I that bakery owner, there would be no cake, no fine paid and no more bakery.

Send me to jail if you wish, but any further association with ANYONE would cease.

Be sayonara, assholes.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 06, 2013 11:33 PM (SAMxH)

Refuse to bake the cake. When asked why, explain that the would-be customer was being a jerk and that he reserves the right to refuse service to jerks. When asked what the customer had done to be a jerk, reply "asked me to make a gay cake, when he knows I won't."

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 08:01 PM (T1005)

566 ICYMI when it originally aired, the Leno show with W and Laura is reairing now.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 08:02 PM (DmNpO)

567 This one is particularly disturbing --- the notion that an artist can be forced to depict whatever the state mandates, plus the requirement that you must physically attend (and thus participate in) an event you object to.

Should a photographer be required to take pictures at an orgy? at a nudist wedding? at a Nazi rally?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 06, 2013 11:59 PM (dfYL9)

Like I've said. They've gone from demanding the government get out of the bedroom to demanding that the government be in the bedroom, and forcing you in there as well and pointing a gun at your head to cheer and applaud wildly at the actions taking place.

Posted by: buzzion at December 06, 2013 08:02 PM (LI48c)

568

How do they know they are not getting butt r cream frosting ?

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 06, 2013 08:02 PM (/7Xis)

569 Is "someone left the cake out in the rain" a defence? Posted by: Tim Fountain at December 06, 2013 11:58 PM (8jm+y) Only in MacArthur ParkÂ… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHS8hj4TdT8

Posted by: Zombie Richard Harris at December 06, 2013 08:03 PM (Vk2pI)

570 Casablanca is the bestest movie ever...

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 08:03 PM (JMmQ9)

571 Isn't the refusal a similar thing? Both sides are taking actions based on their beliefs. No. Just no. One side is attempting to force the other side to take part in validating their beliefs. The other side is simply saying no. The baker isn't even coming close to "forcing his beliefs" on the couple. Okay, then what? Their only option is to seek another baker? Why can't they do more? (Leaving the government out of it.) Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 11:59 PM (AO9UG) Um, yes. This isn't even a good Devil's Advocate argument man. It's just silly. What option would you give them?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 08:03 PM (GEICT)

572 You're arguing against nothing. No one has said that the people who were refused don't have the right to never do business with him or talk poorly about his business or try and convince others to not go there. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 11:56 PM (GEICT) That is exactly the thing I wanted to make clear. Leaving the government out is the right thing to do. Moving on to another business is a good choice. Getting pissed and then peacefully and privately protesting the refusal is also a reasonable choice.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 08:03 PM (AO9UG)

573 They have money at the ready, have not broken the law, and have been refused business based on the baker's personal beliefs. Therein lies the rub: no law has been broken. What legal justification is there for any action by the court?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 06, 2013 08:03 PM (0HooB)

574 How did the Cake guy know it was for a gay wedding?

The pregnant teenager argument works here too.

I generally don't share a lot of my personal life with the businesses I deal with.

This is also my position on gays. Don't be too out in public and I could give a shit. This condition also applies to Hetro couples.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 06, 2013 08:04 PM (TI3xG)

575 Getting pissed and then peacefully and privately protesting the refusal is also a reasonable choice.

Posted by: eman at December 07, 2013 12:03 AM (AO9UG)

LOL @ peacefully, midnight firebombing more like.

Posted by: Red Shirt at December 06, 2013 08:05 PM (FIDMq)

576 That is exactly the thing I wanted to make clear. Leaving the government out is the right thing to do. Moving on to another business is a good choice. Getting pissed and then peacefully and privately protesting the refusal is also a reasonable choice. Posted by: eman at December 07, 2013 12:03 AM (AO9UG) And no one said anything different.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 08:06 PM (GEICT)

577
   I honestly do not care about anyone's sexual predilection.

    Not any of my business.

    Said this many times, I simply wish the gays would celebrate their homosexuality as I celebrate my heterosexuality--quietly and with no fanfare.

     IOW, GET OUT OF MY FACE WITH THE SHIT.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 06, 2013 08:06 PM (SAMxH)

578 eman, you are going to be really pissed off at this comment, but here goes... I don't think anyone should be forced to deal with ANYONE! Neither race, nor gender, nor sexual orientation. If someone doesn't want to serve you then someone else will. Pressures will arise from within the community to correct the problem and the government needs to stay the fuck out of it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 08:06 PM (DmNpO)

579 Okay, then what? Their only option is to seek another baker? Why can't they do more? (Leaving the government out of it.) Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 11:59 PM (AO9UG) yep, so if someone comes to my door and wants me to buy a set of fuller brushes, should they be able to force me to do that if I don't want to?

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 08:07 PM (Iu2bR)

580 545 @ 526

CC, this evening wife and I hosted a young Army couple for dinner.

At the restaurant we had the great misfortune to have to listen to 2 gays making a loud scene about an alleged service discrimination. There was no reason for it to escalate to the extent it did.

Everyone in the restaurant heard it and was embarrassed.

I wish you could have seen the smug look on both their faces, you'd have stifled the same urge I did not to smack them both.

So I'm still pissed.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 06, 2013 11:54 PM (SAMxH)

Reminds me of that piece that appeared in the sidebar earlier this week about how the leftists have to invent fake discrimination and keep the pot boiling to maintain their power.

Is hunting season still on? Maybe you can take out your rage on some ducks.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 08:07 PM (sQ0LB)

581 The baker should just take on a Muslim partner, then dare the next homosexual couple to try something.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 06, 2013 08:07 PM (VdOTu)

582 515 The gay couple is hiring the baker to bake a cake not to approve of their marriage.

Would you refuse to bake a birthday cake for a pregnant teenager?

I get that folks don't want to be forced to do business with folks that violate their strongly held beliefs, but from the customer's point of view you just slapped them in the face.

Why not just bake the cake and let them be on their way?

That's my Devil's Advocate scene for the night.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 11:42 PM (AO9UG)

The difference is creativity. If someone is in business and is merely vending something (e.g. hotels, taxis, grocery stores) that already exists or is uniform, then discrimination laws should apply. But people who are hired to create something personally should be able to freely choose who they associate with.

Or, to put it another way, it should be illegal for the same baker to refuse to sell a gay couple a premade cake, but the baker should not be compelled to bake one for the couple.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 08:07 PM (T1005)

583 Why does this work one way and not the other?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 06, 2013 11:57 PM (RGQmh)

Because diversity you bigot.

Posted by: The Left at December 06, 2013 08:08 PM (3qZbZ)

584

I don't respect your beliefs, but you must respect mine ?

Fuck that

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 06, 2013 08:09 PM (/7Xis)

585 Or, to put it another way, it should be illegal for the same baker to refuse to sell a gay couple a premade cake, but the baker should not be compelled to bake one for the couple. Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 12:07 AM (T1005) I disagree with this. I'm in sync with NDH on this issue.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 08:10 PM (GEICT)

586 eman, I was sitting at a drive-thru this afternoon and suddenly thought of your jwest comment from last night and just started LMAO. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 11:49 PM (DmNpO) Thanks, NDH. I do feel sorry for the turtle.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 08:10 PM (AO9UG)

587 The simple fact that Muslims and homosexual perverts are in (temporary) alliance under the Democratic Party and this government, should be enough to demonstrate who the common enemy is.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 06, 2013 08:11 PM (Nsoq9)

588 What hasn't been asked is... how gay was the cake they wanted?

Posted by: otho at December 06, 2013 08:11 PM (9gNQd)

589 sweet, low-crawling Jesus it's cold out there! Just got home and I'm tearing apart furniture to make a fire.

Global warming, my ass.

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 08:11 PM (x3YFz)

590 There was no reason for it to escalate to the extent it did.Everyone in the restaurant heard it and was embarrassed.I wish you could have seen the smug look on both their faces, you'd have stifled the same urge I did not to smack them both.So I'm still pissed. Posted by: irongrampa at December 06, 2013 11:54 PM (SAMxH) In NY state is it a hate crime to tell them to leave and go fuck each other in the ass?

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 08:13 PM (Iu2bR)

591 Crazy HW fight in the UFC. Big boys throwin bombs. Some serious head trauma. Yeesh.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 08:14 PM (ZPrif)

592 You know, as of last week, all I make for weddings from now on are super huuuuuuge cross cakes.

Guess you guys will have to live with that.

Posted by: if I were a rabble rouser baker at December 06, 2013 08:14 PM (bvtgt)

593 Time for the old folk. One good thing about dinner, we made some new friends to enjoy, regardless of the rest.

Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 06, 2013 08:14 PM (SAMxH)

594 588 What hasn't been asked is... how gay was the cake they wanted?

Posted by: otho at December 07, 2013 12:11 AM (9gNQd)

Probably the cake Patrick Stewart made in his crappy Saturday night live skit.

Posted by: buzzion at December 06, 2013 08:15 PM (LI48c)

595 Good night IG

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 08:15 PM (GEICT)

596 The government does not have the right to force two private parties into a contractual agreement.

-----

Sez you.

Posted by: John Roberts at December 06, 2013 08:15 PM (1j9qS)

597 5th round. Both these dudes have too strong of a chin for their own good. Impressive. Not good for their brains, thuogh.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 08:15 PM (ZPrif)

598 ACLU got involved

Colorado has a constitutional ban against gay marriage but allows civil unions. The civil union law, which passed earlier this year, does not provide religious protections for businesses.

"At first blush, it may seem reasonable that a private business should be able to refuse service to anyone it chooses," Judge Spencer said in his written order. "This view, however, fails to take into account the cost to society and the hurt caused to persons who are denied service simply because of who they are."

ACLU attorney Amanda Goad said no one is asking Phillips to change his religious beliefs.

"But treating gay people differently because of who they are is discrimination, plain and simple," she said.

Judge started off well, but stepped in FAIL

Posted by: Red Shirt at December 06, 2013 08:15 PM (FIDMq)

599 Good night, Grampa!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 06, 2013 08:15 PM (RGQmh)

600 eman, you are going to be really pissed off at this comment, but here goes... I don't think anyone should be forced to deal with ANYONE! Neither race, nor gender, nor sexual orientation. If someone doesn't want to serve you then someone else will. Pressures will arise from within the community to correct the problem and the government needs to stay the fuck out of it. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 07, 2013 12:06 AM (DmNpO) I agree. I think if you act on your beliefs you should be prepared for others to act on theirs. Both sides can deal with these things peacefully, lawfully, and with the Government sitting down and shutting the fuck up. I did not bring this up because I saw people writing how they thought otherwise. I brought it up as a message to those who need it spelled out for them. I suspect they lurk here and do not understand what Morons mean when they say the government should stay out of things.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 08:15 PM (AO9UG)

601 new thread up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 08:16 PM (DmNpO)

602 I don't see how they could stop the baker (or aforementioned photographer) from subcontracting the job out to someone else.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 06, 2013 08:16 PM (m0h0I)

603 'Night IG. Thanks for the tip a few weeks ago about the frayed wire causing the ECM fuse to blow. Truck is running again.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 06, 2013 08:17 PM (0HooB)

604 Now they are just exhausted. Blood everywhere. One dude can barely walk from leg kicks. Just go down dude. Jesus.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 08:17 PM (ZPrif)

605 Night IG.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 08:17 PM (sQ0LB)

606 This is about the third big case about gay wedding cakes I've heard. You know, if Duh Gheys had the monopoly on arteestick es-press-ion and creativity that goes with their well-ground-out stereotype, you'd think they already enjoyed a near-monopoly on cake decoration. It seems so right up their alley.

Suppose they sought out a straight wedding dress designer, too? And those shoes, my god...

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 06, 2013 08:18 PM (xq1UY)

607 Bigfoot wont go down

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 06, 2013 08:18 PM (/7Xis)

608 I like The Kelly File because Megyn is asking if TFG and his administration are telling bald faced lies. If only ABC, CBS & MSNBC would catch on to the fact that heÂ’s a serial liar.

Posted by: Carol at December 06, 2013 08:18 PM (z4WKX)

609 I'm late to the thread. So pardon me if I missed something but as a business owner it's your business. You're not compelled to do shit you don't want to do.

If I refuse to provide a service because I don't like your eye color? then tough shit. My business, my rules. Don't like it? Go somewhere else.

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 08:18 PM (x3YFz)

610 tangonine sitrep: "Just got home and I'm tearing apart furniture to make a fire."

I read somewhere that Poe had to do that when he didn't have money for firewood. So one option is to write some stuff that the French will admire now and Americans not so much 'til you're dead.

Or you can drink and wander around Baltimore.

Posted by: Tim Fountain at December 06, 2013 08:19 PM (8jm+y)

611 Big Foot Silva has eaten an ungodly # of blows to the head.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 08:19 PM (ZPrif)

612 Thirty years ago I worked as a baker in a rather conservative area - if you wanted to order up a 24" long dick complete with bavarian cream filled balls - you'd get your 24" long dick complete with bavarian cream filled balls, as long as myself or the other baker who would make such orders was around - otherwise fuck you they are not your damned slaves - get your shit off the shelf like everyone else.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 06, 2013 08:19 PM (80R0X)

613 What the hell just happened?

...again?

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 06, 2013 08:19 PM (lq3Ak)

614 Both men are gonna go immediately to the hospital. Yeesh.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 08:20 PM (ZPrif)

615 Hunt must have 2 broken hands by now

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 06, 2013 08:20 PM (/7Xis)

616 Hunt with the strategy of blocking punches with his skull.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 08:20 PM (ZPrif)

617 #598: "ACLU attorney Amanda Goad said no one is asking Phillips to change his religious beliefs."

That's funny, because the plaintiff couple has flat-out stated that they want to change Phillips's mind on gay marriage.

Of course this also begs the question... do you really think bringing down the weight of the government on him to force him to comply will change his mind? Of course it won't. People aren't like that. Force them to do things they don't want to do, and their opinions only harden and crystallize.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 06, 2013 08:20 PM (RGQmh)

618 holy smokes

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 06, 2013 08:21 PM (/7Xis)

619 totally unrelated, and:
/drumroll

Story Time!

A Navy corpsman is a student in one of my classes. He relayed a story of him having to haul a 33 year old Marine across the flightline at Kandahar in a fireman's carry ducking A-10's while the tower was yelling at him to get off the freaking runway... because dude had a heart attack.

Red Bull + 5 hour energy + all kinds of stupid body building supplements = dead.

There's a lesson there.

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 08:22 PM (x3YFz)

620 That was just two dudes hitting each other upside the head with baseball bats for 25 minutes. That was brutal.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 08:22 PM (ZPrif)

621 585 Or, to put it another way, it should be illegal for the same baker to refuse to sell a gay couple a premade cake, but the baker should not be compelled to bake one for the couple.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 12:07 AM (T1005)

I disagree with this. I'm in sync with NDH on this issue.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 07, 2013 12:10 AM (GEICT)

You'd argue that someone vending a product can discriminate against customers by class? As in a pharmacist saying, "I don't sell painkillers to Jews", a taxi-driver saying "I won't pick up blacks", or a grocer saying he won't sell to women?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 08:22 PM (T1005)

622 #612 Burnt Toast our son is getting married in Jan. and I might have to sub you in for the wedding cake. Need to research some other ball fillings and will get back to you - but the dick dimension sounds good.

Posted by: Tim Fountain at December 06, 2013 08:22 PM (8jm+y)

623 Red Bull + 5 hour energy + all kinds of stupid body building supplements = dead. There's a lesson there. Posted by: tangonine at December 07, 2013 12:22 AM (x3YFz) sorry to hear that yes, a lesson along with don't get killed in a car crash

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 08:24 PM (Iu2bR)

624 First two rounds had some actual technique, especially from Silva with the leg kicks. Last 3 were just undefended shots to the head.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 08:24 PM (ZPrif)

625 "But treating gay people differently because of who they are is discrimination, plain and simple," she said. Judge started off well, but stepped in FAIL Posted by: Red Shirt at December 07, 2013 12:15 AM (FIDMq) In some ways, gay couples are fundamentally and biologically different from straight couples. That ain't "H8," it's nature: http://tinyurl.com/lksu8sd P.S. That is the post that got a militant Atheist to have conniption fit despite that fact that I didn't use religious arguments.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 06, 2013 08:24 PM (Vk2pI)

626 Sounds like you're going through menopause. Prayers, brother. *fist bump* Posted by: Dack Thrombosis heh, I am always hot, always have been, always a big fan of cold weather, alaska cold. 60 degrees in december, which it was in nyc, is horrible. I have not needed my long underwear in years. somewhere a ways back one of my ancestors did it with a polar bear.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 06, 2013 08:24 PM (ya3AJ)

627 yes, a lesson along with don't get killed in a car crash

Posted by: Sid at December 07, 2013 12:24 AM (Iu2bR)

I also have it on good authority that burning to death isn't much fun. Fire = bad.

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 08:26 PM (x3YFz)

628 #621: A pharmacist who refused to sell painkillers to Jews would develop a reputation as such. Jews and Christians alike would refuse to do business with him. Good luck paying back your doctorate-level student loans under those circumstances.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 06, 2013 08:26 PM (RGQmh)

629 Hey, you guys who want to see the nova in Centaurus, there is a photo of the star field on APOD: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap131207.html

Posted by: whoever at December 06, 2013 08:26 PM (zu9Ee)

630 You'd argue that someone vending a product can discriminate against customers by class? As in a pharmacist saying, "I don't sell painkillers to Jews", a taxi-driver saying "I won't pick up blacks", or a grocer saying he won't sell to women? Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 12:22 AM (T1005) sure, free country right? nobody is stopping a Jewish guy from starting his own pharmacy right?

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 08:26 PM (Iu2bR)

631

Just go down dude.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 07, 2013 12:17 AM

Phrasing!

Posted by: sterling archer at December 06, 2013 08:27 PM (9gNQd)

632 Of course this also begs the question... do you really think bringing down the weight of the government on him to force him to comply will change his mind? Of course it won't. People aren't like that. Force them to do things they don't want to do, and their opinions only harden and crystallize. Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 07, 2013 12:20 AM (RGQmh) I do see FIVE fingers. I do love ~~Big Brother~~ ObamaÂ…

Posted by: Winston at December 06, 2013 08:27 PM (Vk2pI)

633 You'd argue that someone vending a product can discriminate against customers by class? As in a pharmacist saying, "I don't sell painkillers to Jews", a taxi-driver saying "I won't pick up blacks", or a grocer saying he won't sell to women? Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 12:22 AM (T1005) You'd argue that the govt has the right to force to private individuals into a business relationship?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 08:27 PM (GEICT)

634 somewhere a ways back one of my ancestors did it with a polar bear.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 07, 2013 12:24 AM (ya3AJ)

First reaction was "wut?"

Second reaction was "that's impressive."

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 08:27 PM (x3YFz)

635 these drapes really tie the room together http://bit.ly/18q2pcl

Posted by: The Dude at December 06, 2013 08:28 PM (vJdyz)

636 You'd argue that someone vending a product can discriminate against customers by class? As in a pharmacist saying, "I don't sell painkillers to Jews", a taxi-driver saying "I won't pick up blacks", or a grocer saying he won't sell to women?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 12:22 AM (T1005)

Yep, and then the pharmacist or grocer across the street or the taxi driver next in line can clean up by serving those who the first group won't. It's called the free market, and when it's allowed to it works pretty good.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 08:28 PM (yh0zB)

637 A pharmacist who refused to sell painkillers to Jews would develop a reputation as such. Jews and Christians alike would refuse to do business with him. Good luck paying back your doctorate-level student loans under those circumstances. *** ta da!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 08:29 PM (DmNpO)

638 633 You'd argue that someone vending a product can discriminate against customers by class? As in a pharmacist saying, "I don't sell painkillers to Jews", a taxi-driver saying "I won't pick up blacks", or a grocer saying he won't sell to women?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 12:22 AM (T1005)

Um. Yes. I'd argue that.

It's your business. You're not compelled by law to provide anything to any person.

Take it to the logical conclusion: if you are compelled to provide a service they have a name for that; it's called slavery.

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 08:30 PM (x3YFz)

639 somewhere a ways back one of my ancestors did it with a polar bear.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 07, 2013 12:24 AM (ya3AJ)

and then staggered back into the bar and said "Now where's that Eskimo woman you want me to rassle?"

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 08:30 PM (yh0zB)

640 I am reminded of the Oregon florist who refused to decorate a gay wedding. She had many times before sold flowers to a gay couple that she knew was gay and though they were lovely people. She refused to decorate their wedding. Rather than accept this, the gay couple sued to compel her to affirm their moral statement of marriage. She was tolerant. The Gay couple were not.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 06, 2013 08:31 PM (Vk2pI)

641 "Would you refuse to bake a birthday cake for a pregnant teenager?" ------------------------------- I can't imagine that anyone would object to that since it her pregnancy has nothing whatsoever to do with her birthday. Likewise, baking a birthday cake for a gay man's "husband" is entirely different from baking their wedding cake. Suppose there were a 50 yr old man marrying an 11 yr old girl. A baker who otherwise would make a birthday cake for either the man or the girl might not want to make them a wedding cake. It might seem an endorsement of a specific event. At the very least, it forces participation. If I know that the guy coming in every morning for donuts is a Nazi or Black Panther, I'd still sell him donuts. But if he asks me to cater his racist group's rally, I would refuse. There is a difference between not serving gays as individuals and not participating in a gay wedding.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 06, 2013 08:31 PM (dfYL9)

642 Majority draw for the UFC HW main event. I thought Hunt barely, barely won but a draw is fair. A Samoan vs a Brazilian with gigantism. Literally. Big Foot Silva had a pituitary tumor or something. Both dudes punches can kill normal men and they each took probably 50-100 shots from each other. Ridiculous.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 08:31 PM (ZPrif)

643 First reaction was "wut?" Second reaction was "that's impressive." Posted by: tangonine some tough ladies in my family. kinda slutty to, apparently. I heard when she did the polar bear she was on top of him.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 06, 2013 08:31 PM (ya3AJ)

644 FON=Fight of the Night. Usually a $50k bonus. Dana White ‏@danawhite Both Hunt and Silva win FON and both get their win bonus and I might buy them both their own private ISLANDS!!!! Sickest HW fight ever!!!

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 08:32 PM (ZPrif)

645 some tough ladies in my family. kinda slutty to, apparently. I heard when she did the polar bear she was on top of him.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 07, 2013 12:31 AM (ya3AJ)

...but that ruins the whole joke...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 08:32 PM (yh0zB)

646 if you are compelled to provide a service they have a name for that; it's called slavery. Posted by: tangonine at December 07, 2013 12:30 AM (x3YFz) there was this Jewish guy in ancient Egypt who had to build a pyramid..... there was also a guy from africa who had to pic cotton in Louisianna in 1840..... both were compelled by law..... weelll yyoouu can figure it out

Posted by: Sid at December 06, 2013 08:33 PM (Iu2bR)

647 If I open a lemonade stand and decide to only sell lemonade to people over 7 feet tall, that's my prerogative.

The question of whether it's a good business idea isn't what we're discussing here. It's the right of the business owner to run his or her business as they like. Obviously, there are consequences to being dumb, but that just plays out in a free market.

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 08:33 PM (x3YFz)

648
sure, free country right?
Posted by: Sid at December 07, 2013 12:26 AM (Iu2bR)
Not lately.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 06, 2013 08:34 PM (XRt8X)

649 I believed Hunt won

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 06, 2013 08:34 PM (/7Xis)

650

The pharmacist comparison is false equivalence. You cannot get painkillers from someone other than a pharmacist, so there actually is a compelling reason to say they may not refuse a customer who has a prescription written by a physician or other provider for treatment of a medical condition regardless of who or what the customer is--the moral examption for abortificants is for a class of drug, not a class of customer, so that's a different matter.

You don't need a license to bake a f*cking cake, yet.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 08:35 PM (sQ0LB)

651 The pharmacist who refuses to sell painkillers to a Jew is fundamentally different that someone who refuses to bake a cake for a gay wedding. In the former case, the owner of the business is refusing to sell the same exact product based on race, religion, &c. This is similar to a sandwich shop owner refusing to sell the same sandwich to someone because of those same factors. In the case of the baker or florist, it is not the same exact product or service, but a participation and contribution to a voluntary even (and thus be behavior) that they disagree with. If someone had a moral problem with selling a ham sandwich, such as a Jewish or Muslim deli, they should not be forced to even if they publicly say they sell sandwiches. The same situation applies to "same sex marriages."

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 06, 2013 08:35 PM (Vk2pI)

652 I believe the government had every right to step in with regard to the bullshit tactics that kept women and minorities from voting. I believe they have every right to step in when violence takes place. In most other instances regarding personal choice, I think they should keep their mitts off of us. And, before anyone goes there... no... that does not apply to abortion. I believe it should be illegal in most circumstances. Why? Because one person is making the choice for another person to die. There's a difference between that and refusing to serve coffee to someone.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 08:35 PM (DmNpO)

653 Obviously, there are consequences to being dumb, but that just plays out in a free market.

Posted by: tangonine at December 07, 2013 12:33 AM (x3YFz)

It appears the free market is dead, pretty sure these days you are going to get sued for discrimination right quick, or they need to start getting religious beliefs baked into these stupid laws.

Posted by: Red Shirt at December 06, 2013 08:36 PM (FIDMq)

654 You cannot get painkillers from someone other than a pharmacist, so there actually is a compelling reason to say they may not refuse a customer who has a prescription written by a physician or other provider for treatment of a medical condition regardless of who or what the customer is--the moral examption for abortificants is for a class of drug, not a class of customer, so that's a different matter.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 07, 2013 12:35 AM (sQ0LB)

The point is...there is more than just one pharmacist in the world. Most places have two or three. Hell, just here in my little back-asswards corner of the world we have no less than four different pharmacies within a 10 mile radius. If one of them wishes to write his own death certificate (business-wise) then (s)he should have every right to.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 08:37 PM (yh0zB)

655 That was a great fight. But those dudes both absorbed insane, brain-destroying amounts of damage. Chael Sonnen has a much more lucrative strategy. He talks shit to get people to buy his fights. He comes out strong and if he wins, great. But the moment he gets hurt and it looks like he'll probably lose ... he drops, turtles up, and just gets the loss over with. Doesn't win or lose or draw epic war fights. Makes money and save his brain. Fans want the epic gruesome wars though.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 08:37 PM (ZPrif)

656 Major pro-life activist here in South Dakota couldn't get service in some local coffee house run by liberals. They went so far as to tell her she wasn't welcome there.

She didn't sue. She went to a different coffee house.

Posted by: Tim Fountain at December 06, 2013 08:39 PM (8jm+y)

657 If y'all haven't seen it, go look at the video in the new thread. Transcendent.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 06, 2013 08:40 PM (N/cFh)

658 Can you bake _____ a cake?

"I'm not available that weekend."

Can you take photos for _____?

"I'm not available that day."

Sad this is what thing have come to, but it's probably gonna be the best solution to protect one's self. I'm not discriminating against _____. I'm busy, and fucking prove otherwise.

Posted by: wants off this crazy ride... at December 06, 2013 08:40 PM (bvtgt)

659 OK, bear wrasslers, it's bedtime for Bonzo. Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at December 06, 2013 08:41 PM (0HooB)

660 Night BB

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 08:42 PM (GEICT)

661 If y'all haven't seen it, go look at the video in the new thread. Transcendent. *** It caught my eye that from the moment the lone celloist started playing (it was the celloist, right?) that the crowd gathered around. It just stopped most in their tracks.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 08:42 PM (DmNpO)

662 Getting close.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 08:42 PM (yh0zB)

663 #656: Totally fair. I'm on the same side as the pro-life activist, but the coffee shop that didn't want to serve her should not be forced to.

Hell, for that matter, why would you want to ingest something prepared by someone who wants nothing to do with you? I'd much rather be told, "We won't serve you," than eat a cheeseburger that the entire crew spit on.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 06, 2013 08:43 PM (RGQmh)

664 Gays aren't a protected class -- maybe they are in certain states. If you aren't a protected class, as long as you aren't dealing with a common carrier (like a bus, hotel, etc), then you can be discriminated against. If you want to discriminate against someone just look them up on Facebook, figure out their politics, and say you want do business with Democrats, or pro-abortion people, or whatever. It's perfectly legal to discriminate against people for their political opinions. You can refuse to do business with people who like hockey. Certain groups are protected. Certain types of discrimination are illegal. The rest are fine.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 08:44 PM (ZPrif)

665 Time?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 08:44 PM (yh0zB)

666 Now!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 08:44 PM (yh0zB)

667 It seems the general state of Give-a-Fuckdom is malaise. Well shit. I looked in my suitcase just now and nope, didnt pack any. Grettings all from balmy Singapore. That Hunt/Silva fight was kickass sick.

Posted by: fastfreefall at December 06, 2013 08:45 PM (dS5nN)

668 661 If y'all haven't seen it, go look at the video in the new thread. Transcendent. *** It caught my eye that from the moment the lone celloist started playing (it was the celloist, right?) that the crowd gathered around. It just stopped most in their tracks. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 07, 2013 12:42 AM (DmNpO) --- People are not accustomed to seeing /hearing beauty in everyday life. I try to take joy in simple things. I sang right along with those zoomies

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 06, 2013 08:45 PM (N/cFh)

669 Hahahaha!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 08:45 PM (yh0zB)

670 633 You'd argue that someone vending a product can discriminate against customers by class? As in a pharmacist saying, "I don't sell painkillers to Jews", a taxi-driver saying "I won't pick up blacks", or a grocer saying he won't sell to women?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 12:22 AM (T1005)

You'd argue that the govt has the right to force to private individuals into a business relationship?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 07, 2013 12:27 AM (GEICT)

No, I'd argue that holding something out for sale in a marketplace means that it's for sale to all comers. Incidentally, the reason that I keep coming back to taxis, hotels, and pharmacies is http://www.nbcnews.com/id/16472393/ , http://tinyurl.com/9d92qce , and http://www.hpso.com/resources/article/63.jsp respectively. That contrasts with willing to enter "into a business relationship" -- which is what I'd argue for any commissioned work.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 08:45 PM (T1005)

671 Well, that's it for me folks. Gotta get up and change the oil in the Subaru tomorrow before taking it to the mountains, also have a fog light to fix in the 'stang, so my morning is filled up.

Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2013 08:46 PM (yh0zB)

672 Good night, BackwardsBoy! Good night, GGE!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 06, 2013 08:47 PM (RGQmh)

673 I have an early morning. Good night, darlings.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 06, 2013 08:50 PM (N/cFh)

674 "Sharknado" available on NetFlix

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 06, 2013 08:51 PM (e8kgV)

675 GGE, I probably phrased that badly. I meant to say one could make a strong argument for compulsion re: the pharmacist, not that I was personally advocating it. Frankly, they should already be compelled by their professional ethics and oath to provide all meds for all medical needs. Even a fairly rabid pro-lifer like myself would dispense an abortificant for medical necessity (as opposed to retroactive birth control).

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 08:52 PM (sQ0LB)

676 #656: Totally fair. I'm on the same side as the pro-life activist, but the coffee shop that didn't want to serve her should not be forced to. That question was settled in a suit concerning a lunch counter at F.W. Woolworths, several decades ago. The difference now is the apparent forced-participation; seemingly, forbidding discrimination against certain clients or customers is no longer enough, business are now being forced to participate in customer's or client's behavior, and against their will. Seemingly, the people owning / working for the corporation have lost their human rights, and without any due process. I think that we will soon need to deal with the question: "How does society legally deal with an unjust judge?". I happen to like very public trials, with continuous, unedited video and lawyers who have a chance to settle grudges against the judges in question.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 06, 2013 08:52 PM (FlRtG)

677 Ariel Helwani ‏@arielhelwani Hunt and Silva combined for 184 significant strikes, the highest amount in UFC heavyweight history, according to @fightmetric. -- Yeah, I've never seen two dudes take so much damage and not go down before. Brave. Also stupid. I hope when they 50 they both can remember what an amazing performance they put on. That was like a Rocky movie.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 08:52 PM (ZPrif)

678 #670: If one person doesn't want to do business with you, it's not hard to find someone else who will.

Do you know why we have a minimum wage? Eugenics. Before the minimum wage was instituted, you could hire a black man to do a job for less than it'd cost to have a white man do it. White eugenicists didn't like this, and so they decided to force black workers to charge just as much as white workers. They figured if black labor weren't such a bargain, people would naturally gravitate toward "superior" white labor.

The whole idea behind the minimum wage was to institutionalize discrimination against blacks.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 06, 2013 08:54 PM (RGQmh)

679 "If I refuse to provide a service because I don't like your eye color? then tough shit. My business, my rules. Don't like it? Go somewhere else."
Posted by: tangonine

You are quite correct and I agree with you en toto.

"Everything is Local" should be how policies are endorsed, enforced and Locally Justified.

-While the 'small-S' State has ultimate control over its jurisdictions, The Federal Horse-Shit has been an abdication of 'small-S' States' powers.

States' Rights have been sack-threatened for years. By our Federal Overlords. Squeezing.

Should a State pass a law that deems "Eye Color" an irrelevant issue, punishable by law? You'd be subject to the penalty, as administrated by Local Justice.

...such is the state of legal matters, nowadays. The Letter. Sometimes.

..."The Letter".

K-Street's wordsmiths and Defensive Perimeter have been employed and deployed.

Here's "The Rub"... We used to be a Nation of Laws.

We are now a Nation of Supplemented Connections. We are Maslow's Hierarchy of Justifiable Relationships, Excuses, Connections and Media-Justified, Storyline Stardom.

*props to ace*

We are all connected to The I.R.S. through the same Moral-Hammer "laws" they Federally Re-Enforce and change year-after-year.

...the same goes for the F.I.C.A.

...the same goes for Medicare.

...the same goes for Medicaid.

...the same goes for EVERYTHING they ask you to justify Federally.

Year, after year, after year... the debt and deficit increase. We are asked to Pay More, justified by nothing more than promises that have never been kept.

I've gotten off on a rant, here. I apologize.

I just didn't think that a "Welfare Clause" in the Preamble of Our Great Constitution meant anything more than -individual- Liberty, Justice and Freedom.

So sayeth the States.

...so sayeth local justice.

*Back To Your Regularly-Scheduled Program*

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 06, 2013 08:54 PM (lq3Ak)

680 It's perfectly legal to discriminate against people for their political opinions.

You can refuse to do business with people who like hockey.

Certain groups are protected. Certain types of discrimination are illegal. The rest are fine.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 07, 2013 12:44 AM (ZPrif)

That's pretty much how I see it. The Harley shop I work out of occasionally don't deal with outlaw bike gang types. Not gonna happen, don't need that fucking shit at the shop. Nothing good would come from it, fuck the money.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2013 08:55 PM (FMbng)

681 You'd argue that the govt has the right to force to private individuals into a business relationship? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 07, 2013 12:27 AM (GEICT) No, I'd argue that holding something out for sale in a marketplace means that it's for sale to all comers. Incidentally, the reason that I keep coming back to taxis, hotels, and pharmacies is http://www.nbcnews.com/id/16472393/ , http://tinyurl.com/9d92qce , and http://www.hpso.com/resources/article/63.jsp respectively. That contrasts with willing to enter "into a business relationship" -- which is what I'd argue for any commissioned work. Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 12:45 AM (T1005) But that's exactly what you're doing. You have two private individuals. One wants to do business, the other doesn't. The govt is stepping in and saying that the reason that person doesn't want to do business is invalid and they MUST do business with that person.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 08:55 PM (GEICT)

682 650 The pharmacist comparison is false equivalence. You cannot get painkillers from someone other than a pharmacist, so there actually is a compelling reason to say they may not refuse a customer who has a prescription written by a physician or other provider for treatment of a medical condition regardless of who or what the customer is--the moral examption for abortificants is for a class of drug, not a class of customer, so that's a different matter.

You don't need a license to bake a f*cking cake, yet.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 07, 2013 12:35 AM (sQ0LB)

There are a variety of weirditudes in the pharmacist example which would lead me, personally, to think more along the lines of "fill the damned prescription"....although the pharmacist associations are pretty powerful and they're actually closer to being able to say "we'll fill what we feel like" than the other examples.

But I take "compelled to labor" quite seriously....which is why I'd only protect a sale when the labor had already happened.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 08:55 PM (T1005)

683 Minimum wage was also meant to keep the coolies back in China. The whole point was to make the "inferior races" starve. Or at least not have enough money to reproduce.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 08:56 PM (ZPrif)

684 This beer is pretty good. *sip*

I shouldn't have rolled that "Green-Conscious-Cigarette" so early.

Screw it.
-For All I Be?
...this Bud's for me.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 06, 2013 08:58 PM (lq3Ak)

685 I shouldn't have rolled that "Green-Conscious-Cigarette" so early.

Screw it.
-For All I Be?
...this Bud's for me.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 12:58 AM (lq3Ak)

Yeah every once in a while you need a forehead like those easter island statues.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2013 09:00 PM (FMbng)

686 664 Gays aren't a protected class -- maybe they are in certain states.

If you aren't a protected class, as long as you aren't dealing with a common carrier (like a bus, hotel, etc), then you can be discriminated against.

If you want to discriminate against someone just look them up on Facebook, figure out their politics, and say you want do business with Democrats, or pro-abortion people, or whatever.

It's perfectly legal to discriminate against people for their political opinions.

You can refuse to do business with people who like hockey.

Certain groups are protected. Certain types of discrimination are illegal. The rest are fine.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 07, 2013 12:44 AM (ZPrif)

There is a whole lot of misinformation out there about discrimination laws. True story: I started working for a place in late 1989. Shortly thereafter, the EEOC started sniffing around the place saying that a certain prior employee had been treated like crap because they were black. I actually argued (and won) on the basis that everyone who worked at the company during the employee's tenure had been equally treated like crap -- and providing copious documentation.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 09:00 PM (T1005)

687 I'd much rather be told, "We won't serve you," than eat a cheeseburger that the entire crew spit on.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 07, 2013 12:43 AM (RGQmh)

Heh. Some of us worked in the food thingy for a bit waiting tables as undergrads or whatnot.

Do not fuck with people that prepare food. Ever.

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 09:00 PM (x3YFz)

688 Crap. It's 1am. Alright good people, I'm out. See you folks tomorrow.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 06, 2013 09:03 PM (GEICT)

689 @ 670 [cthulhu] -- I'd argue that holding something out for sale in a marketplace means that it's for sale to all comers.

I really don't think it's that cut-and-dried. Say, for example, you have a hot rod for sale, but you don't want to sell it to some 18-year-old kid who, even though he has every right to own such a vehicle as a licensed driver having attained the age of majority, she the state be allowed to step in and compel you to violate your conscience and sell the car to him, even though you think there's a good chance the kid will end up killing himself or someone else in it?

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 06, 2013 09:03 PM (m0h0I)

690 Certain groups are protected. Certain types of discrimination are illegal. The rest are fine.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 07, 2013 12:44 AM (ZPrif)

Uh.

No. No in the sense that you can't compel a person to provide a service. If I, say, don't like purple people. But purple people are a "protected" group. I just shut the fucking door and put the CLOSED! sign up. How you like me now?

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 09:05 PM (x3YFz)

691

"And Master Obama can do no wrong. He is invincible."

I'm bleeding... making me the victor!

Posted by: barry "wimp lo" soetoro at December 06, 2013 09:06 PM (9gNQd)

692 I don't see how I could have possible screwed that post up any worse than I did.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 06, 2013 09:07 PM (m0h0I)

693 690 @ 670 [cthulhu] -- I'd argue that holding something out for sale in a marketplace means that it's for sale to all comers.

I really don't think it's that cut-and-dried. Say, for example, you have a hot rod for sale, but you don't want to sell it to some 18-year-old kid who, even though he has every right to own such a vehicle as a licensed driver having attained the age of majority, she the state be allowed to step in and compel you to violate your conscience and sell the car to him, even though you think there's a good chance the kid will end up killing himself or someone else in it?

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 07, 2013 01:03 AM (m0h0I)

Hey Walt, damn fine point. However, I think for a unique item for the seller, there certainly should be a right of refusal. If I have only one authentic German Mauser rifle, I should get to pick and choose whose offer I accept. If I run the Mauser rifle dealership, I would have a much weaker case to refuse the item to anyone who can legally purchase it.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 09:08 PM (sQ0LB)

694 Walt, you can't even spell your damn signature right, we don't expect better in your posts.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 09:09 PM (sQ0LB)

695 Yo Berserk, if you are still around, got a good source for instrument-repair-grade powdered hide glue? Also, food poisoning sucks.

Posted by: Piercello at December 06, 2013 09:11 PM (P4dpU)

696 No, there really are legal defined protected classes and the penalties for discriminating against them are severe. At the federal level gays are not, yet, a protected class. They are pushing legislation to make them. Blacks are a protected class, for example. And you can be compelled to perform a service for them or face huge fines or not be allowed to operate your business. Yes, you can always shut down your taxi service or restaurant rather than comply. But you have no option of operating without complying. Feds will bring down the hammer of god on any business that defies them on that. That's what dudes like Holder freakin' live for.

Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 06, 2013 09:11 PM (ZPrif)

697 You have to be Really Good to be a Federal level Gay.

...it takes practice.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 06, 2013 09:13 PM (lq3Ak)

698 Certain groups are protected. Certain types of discrimination are illegal. The rest are fine. Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 07, 2013 12:44 AM (ZPrif) SomeÂ… are more equal than others.

Posted by: George Orwell at December 06, 2013 09:15 PM (Vk2pI)

699 Regarding that 'math' problem: How many Dem politicians voted in favor of it without even a cursory glance at the contents?

Posted by: Epobirs at December 06, 2013 09:15 PM (bPxS6)

700 Regarding that 'math' problem: How many Dem politicians voted in favor of it without even a cursory glance at the contents? Posted by: Epobirs at December 07, 2013 01:15 AM (bPx Voting? How quaint?

Posted by: Educrat Oligarchy at December 06, 2013 09:16 PM (Vk2pI)

701 700 Regarding that 'math' problem: How many Dem politicians voted in favor of it without even a cursory glance at the contents?

Posted by: Epobirs at December 07, 2013 01:15 AM (bPxS6)

I'll take "Not a F*cking One" for $1200, Alex.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 09:17 PM (sQ0LB)

702 "Regarding that 'math' problem: How many Dem politicians voted in favor of it without even a cursory glance at the contents?"

Posted by: Epobirs at December 07, 2013 01:15 AM (bPxS6)

All Of Them.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 06, 2013 09:17 PM (lq3Ak)

703 Let's not make the whole discrimination thing into a state vs federal discussion because the lawsuits against these businesses were state laws, not Federal. The Feds stick their noses into everything, and eventually, they will write the laws saying that we can't discriminate against those who are left handed. There are several reasons why it is kind of stupid to discriminate against anyone if you are in business. 1. The whole point of owning a business is to put money in your pocket. If a gay couple has money, you should be doing whatever it takes to get their money from their pocket to yours. 2. Lawyers are fucking expensive. Once you get sued, your lawyer goes on the clock, theirs? It's going for a percentage, so, they will take their time. Got sued by a former employee 10 years ago. We decided to fight it. 4 years later and $17K in legal bills for us, his lawyer decides to settle for $5K. $150K lawsuit settled for that. Why? Because it was a dog of a case, and we just couldn't get the judge to dismiss it. 3. Bad publicity. Let's face it, the media loves these stories about a poor downtrodden *insert victim group here* being discriminated against. While most people may agree with you, it is a negative story, and people will just remember that it was a negative story, not the particulars. 4. If you have any kind of government license or contract, kiss it goodbye or get ready for the agency overseeing your industry to spend months up your ass. The bottom line is that you better protect your bottom line.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 06, 2013 09:17 PM (BXLPR)

704 We have to vote for the problem, to find out what problems are in it.

Posted by: Nazi Pelosi at December 06, 2013 09:18 PM (bvtgt)

705 Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 07, 2013 01:17 AM (BXLPR)

^Practical^

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 06, 2013 09:19 PM (lq3Ak)

706 690 @ 670 [cthulhu] -- I'd argue that holding something out for sale in a marketplace means that it's for sale to all comers.

I really don't think it's that cut-and-dried. Say, for example, you have a hot rod for sale, but you don't want to sell it to some 18-year-old kid who, even though he has every right to own such a vehicle as a licensed driver having attained the age of majority, she the state be allowed to step in and compel you to violate your conscience and sell the car to him, even though you think there's a good chance the kid will end up killing himself or someone else in it?

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 07, 2013 01:03 AM (m0h0I)

If you put an advertisement out saying, "for sale, hot rod, $10,000" with a picture, you shouldn't be able to come back and say, "hey, wait, he's too young.....he's too dark.....he goes to a different church....he sucks different, er, body parts...." or whatever. On the flip side, there's nothing that says you couldn't publish an advertisement that said, "I'm looking for a good home to cherish my lovingly-restored hot rod. I'm looking for $10,000 and solid evidence that her new owner can take care of her."

The problem is that people shortcut things -- and when you shortcut things, you lose personal connection to them -- and when you lose personal connection, common-law and legal assumptions become increasingly dominant over personal concerns.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 09:20 PM (T1005)

707 #697: Racial discrimination isn't even a thing anymore with the generation that's reaching adulthood now. A hispanic kid calls a white kid "n***a", and the black kid sitting between them chuckles and says they're both "n***as".

Even if you agree with the idea behind anti-discrimination laws, I really think they've reached the end of their usefulness and can be safely discarded.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 06, 2013 09:20 PM (RGQmh)

708 @ 694 [Conservative Crank] -- Yeah, I can see a distinction there. I'll have to give it more thought. Still, I'm inclined to side with the vendor here.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 06, 2013 09:22 PM (m0h0I)

709 There are a variety of weirditudes in the pharmacist example which would lead me, personally, to think more along the lines of "fill the damned prescription"....although the pharmacist associations are pretty powerful and they're actually closer to being able to say "we'll fill what we feel like" than the other examples. But I take "compelled to labor" quite seriously....which is why I'd only protect a sale when the labor had already happened. Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 12:55 AM (T1005) Pharmacists are licensed by states, at least in Virginia, and dispense drugs that are controlled by the FDA. They might be able to say they won't fill a presciption, but I would bet that the government will step in and say "okay, don't fill that, but you can forget about filling any prescriptions again." Honestly, some of these groups are going out looking to make businesses the "test cases" for these lawsuits. If they can get a judge to rule in their favor, then they win, even if it gets overturned by an upper court. They just want the victory. Once they get that, they keep pointing it out forever.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 06, 2013 09:25 PM (BXLPR)

710 709 @ 694 [Conservative Crank] -- Yeah, I can see a distinction there. I'll have to give it more thought. Still, I'm inclined to side with the vendor here.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 07, 2013 01:22 AM (m0h0I)

I suspect that we're all somewhat reflexive in defending the vendor because this line of crap has been shoved way, way, way, way, way too far. But it didn't start out as bad as it has become and, having worked in the trenches with some of its aspects (and seen some of the more egregious violations), I can see where there needs to be a balance.

And that balance, to me, is clearly in favor of the custom backer and wedding photographer....but against the taxi driver and hotelier. And I'm leaning against the pharmacists.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 09:28 PM (T1005)

711

You should see the anti-discrimination paperwork you have to file with the USDA to get a Forest Service Commercial Use Permit.

It's fucking ridiculous.

Posted by: garrett at December 06, 2013 09:30 PM (wnwiA)

712 Casablanca is the bestest motion picture EVAH

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 06, 2013 09:31 PM (JMmQ9)

713 @ 707 [cthulhu] -- I'd argue that anyone to takes a hand in a creative endeavor inherently has a personal connection to it, be it a baker, photographer, or a singer.

Personally, I think this whole question could have been avoided had the wedding cake designer sub-contracted the job out to someone with "more expertise" in same-sex wedding cakes. And, if the cake designer had moral objections to profiting from same-sex marriages, either directly or indirectly, there's nothing keeping them from using the proceeds in support of his beliefs.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 06, 2013 09:32 PM (m0h0I)

714 Legal Linguistics.

Laws not people.

This shit just got complicated.

...Being Conservatives, we can decipher things, ...as we do. Being Libertarians? ...we fall on the side of Liberty and Justice.

Let's get those "Progressives" beyond the Preamble of our Great Constitution. Let's get them to the rest of the Great Theory that Individuals can Rule Themselves.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 06, 2013 09:32 PM (lq3Ak)

715 *sips beer*

Looks good.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 06, 2013 09:33 PM (lq3Ak)

716 Well, I'm done for the evening. Good night, everyone!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 06, 2013 09:37 PM (RGQmh)

717 Slap, sip another beer for me. With my work schedule this month I won't have much time for libations.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 09:38 PM (sQ0LB)

718 Evening all. So Paul Walker already has a charity. For what? I have no freaking idea.

Posted by: RWC at December 06, 2013 09:40 PM (LpbKr)

719 Oh, it's officially Pearl Harbor Day here in the East. I see fewer and fewer WW2 vets each year in the ER...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 09:41 PM (sQ0LB)

720 710
There are a variety of weirditudes in the pharmacist example which would lead me, personally, to think more along the lines of "fill the damned prescription"....although the pharmacist associations are pretty powerful and they're actually closer to being able to say "we'll fill what we feel like" than the other examples.

But I take "compelled to labor" quite seriously....which is why I'd only protect a sale when the labor had already happened.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 12:55 AM (T1005)

Pharmacists are licensed by states, at least in Virginia, and dispense drugs that are controlled by the FDA. They might be able to say they won't fill a presciption, but I would bet that the government will step in and say "okay, don't fill that, but you can forget about filling any prescriptions again."

Honestly, some of these groups are going out looking to make businesses the "test cases" for these lawsuits. If they can get a judge to rule in their favor, then they win, even if it gets overturned by an upper court. They just want the victory. Once they get that, they keep pointing it out forever.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 07, 2013 01:25 AM (BXLPR)

Pharmacists are licensed by states everywhere (like CPAs, though it's a much better gig for them), and the devil's bargain they made was that they are monopoly sources for prescription medications -- which, to my mind, means they've lost all reason to be seen as exercising independent judgment. Now ask me if they should be monopoly sources for prescription medications.....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 09:41 PM (T1005)

721 Evening all. So Paul Walker already has a charity. For what? I have no freaking idea. *** Is that a photo of James Dean above the Walker story at Drudge?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 09:42 PM (DmNpO)

722 714 @ 707
[cthulhu] -- I'd argue that anyone to takes a hand in a creative endeavor inherently has a personal connection to it, be it a baker, photographer, or a singer.

Personally, I think this whole question could have been avoided had the wedding cake designer sub-contracted the job out to someone with "more expertise" in same-sex wedding cakes. And, if the cake designer had moral objections to profiting from same-sex marriages, either directly or indirectly, there's nothing keeping them from using the proceeds in support of his beliefs.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 07, 2013 01:32 AM (m0h0I)

What if all his delivery boxes say, "proudly created by Jim Smith"?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 09:44 PM (T1005)

723 "Slap, sip another beer for me. With my work schedule this month I won't have much time for libations"

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 07, 2013 01:38 AM (sQ0LB)

Roger that, brother. Consider that deed done-done. ...lol.

Another prayer, this evening for Maddie. Continued Blessings along those lines, Sir!

May you and your Family enjoy this Christmas Season!

*Bless You!*

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 06, 2013 09:44 PM (lq3Ak)

724 Oh, it's officially Pearl Harbor Day here in the East. I see fewer and fewer WW2 vets each year in the ER... *** Speaking of, what the ckufing ckuf is this? SpaghettiOs ‏@SpaghettiOs 3h Take a moment to remember #PearlHarbor with us. http://t.co/B8E1cFKgEo

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 09:45 PM (DmNpO)

725 Is that a photo of James Dean above the Walker story at Drudge? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 07, 2013 01:42 AM (DmNpO) Looks like.

Posted by: RWC at December 06, 2013 09:49 PM (LpbKr)

726 Pharmacists are licensed by states everywhere (like CPAs, though it's a much better gig for them), and the devil's bargain they made was that they are monopoly sources for prescription medications -- which, to my mind, means they've lost all reason to be seen as exercising independent judgment. Now ask me if they should be monopoly sources for prescription medications..... Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 01:41 AM (T1005) Agreed. When my sister goes to Canada, she always goes to a pharmacy up there and stocks up on stuff that is OTC there, but prescription here.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 06, 2013 09:51 PM (BXLPR)

727 So Paul Walker already has a charity.>>

He was at his charity to raise money for the Philippines Typhoon victims just before he died. Was the reason he was in that area with his buddy with the Porsche.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 06, 2013 09:53 PM (TI3xG)

728 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 07, 2013 01:45 AM (DmNpO) Slap A Flag. Marketing technique. Combine the flag and pride of country...gold. Looks like,a defective Olympic slogan though.

Posted by: RWC at December 06, 2013 09:54 PM (LpbKr)

729 Slap A Flag. Marketing technique. Combine the flag and pride of country...gold. Looks like,a defective Olympic slogan though. *** Yes. Major fail.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 09:55 PM (DmNpO)

730 The mocking has begun! http://t.co/c7dsRQjmA2

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 09:56 PM (DmNpO)

731 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 07, 2013 01:56 AM (DmNpO) Looks like they're,selling the dream cruise that is 'Obamacare.'

Posted by: RWC at December 06, 2013 09:59 PM (LpbKr)

732 @ 723 [cthulhu] -- What if all his delivery boxes say, "proudly created by Jim Smith"?

Simply reword them to say "provided" instead of "created". Still, in that case, we're talking about something entirely separate from discrimination. I'm fairly sure that could be easily covered in the language contained in the agreement, wherein he be bound to provide a cake that met his own standards, subject to the customer's satisfaction with the service.

That at least gets the matter settled in small claims instead of going through the whole discrimination lawsuit business. He would then have offered his services in good faith, with the stipulation that his active participation would be subject to availability.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 06, 2013 10:00 PM (m0h0I)

733 She didn't sue. She went to a different coffee house.

Posted by: Tim Fountain at December 07, 2013 12:39 AM (8jm+y)

Which was the smart thing to do. Do you really, really want to eat food or drink beverages provided to you by people that hate your guts, and are compelled by law to serve you?

Enjoy your urinated cranky cake, gheys.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2013 10:00 PM (8Fl6F)

734 In the greater scheme of things, we are all compelled to work for each other by the fact that we'd otherwise starve. But we also live in a nation that says that it is fundamentally wrong to be compelled to work for another. The distinction is clear -- you should not be compelled to work for any one person.

There are certain de minimis rules where you do, in fact, have to do something. When driving down the highway, you must pull over to the side when in the vicinity of an emergency vehicle, for instance. This is the same sort of limitation on a fundamental right that says you cannot yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater, where you can stand in a city park and declaim against the Federal Reserve until you're blue in the face.

I believe that forcing someone to initiate or continue an action with any person is fundamentally wrong. I support the baker and photographer in their cases. But I also know that a sales transaction is initiated before the sale -- there is "offer" and "acceptance", and when someone walks into a store and picks up a pack of gum labeled $1, the offer has already happened, as has the acceptance. Taking it to the cashier and exchanging money is merely working out the logistics, or "vending". We have vending machines, because the process of vending is inherently mechanical.

And people are sloppy with offers. The whole UCC exists to patch up sloppiness in straightforward sales transactions, and is a busy little pile of laws, indeed.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 10:01 PM (T1005)

735 Looks like they're,selling the dream cruise that is 'Obamacare.'>>

Will the next placement be on the Kursk?

Posted by: The Hickster at December 06, 2013 10:02 PM (TI3xG)

736 Nobody else posts their Christmas lights?

Am I the only one who hangs them, or am I early?

I could barely contain myself when I was able to take One Photo before they went out, on timers.

I have not been able to decipher whether my ten-year-old camera took a "good" picture or not. I may post it tomorrow.

What I was able to see, was God's "frosting" that coated the ambient glow of the Christmas lights. I was able to snap one photo before the timers "kicked-in".

In God's Glory, I pray I remain humble amidst a decorated house without a Cross. May I remain His servant with every ounce of humility involved.

While I'm quite proud of my accomplishments? Pride comes before the fall. May I never accept Blessings without Thanks.

...and thanks to all of you. My laughter and tears are here. With you.

-Your Friendly Neighborhood Slapweasel.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 06, 2013 10:03 PM (lq3Ak)

737 Am I the only one who hangs them, or am I early?>>

I'm single, maybe 6 people pass my house a day and I'm lazy.The first 2 are my excuses the last one is the reason I don't put up lights anymore. I have kids and lived used to live in town so I used to put them up.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 06, 2013 10:08 PM (TI3xG)

738 NDH, I can't open it here at work, but I assume it is something that would set my blood to boil.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 10:09 PM (sQ0LB)

739 Slappy -- your lights are beautiful. Thank you for sharing their beauty to everyone driving by and us morons who saw the pic.

The BH is in charge of holiday decorations, and she hath not decreed that they are done yet, so there are no pics from Casa de Cthulhu at this time -- but I got a very special strand as a birfday present from Gushka, so there will be.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 10:10 PM (T1005)

740

Dec 6. The day before Pearl Harbor. My Grandfather was on the U.S.S. San Francisco heavy cruiser.

Today my 17 yr old Pekingese had to be put down. She was intelligent, mellow, LOVDED all people, and quiet-the antithesis of the breed. So perfect you would have thought she was genetically engineered,

So every year I will will think of my furry little girl, then my Grandfather the day after. My life was better thanks to them.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at December 06, 2013 10:11 PM (YMK+F)

741 No winner on Mega Millions tonight. Goes to $344 million next Tuesday.

They rejiggered the rules to encourage bigger jackpots and attract more players but perhaps they went too far. It used to be less likely you'd win the jackpot than be struck by lightning. Now it's less likely than being struck by lightning while doing an impression of Casey Kasem announcing the top 40 for the first week of June in 1973.

Posted by: Epobirs at December 06, 2013 10:13 PM (bPxS6)

742 Good lord, forecast high of 48 tomorrow.....and it's now 49.2. This does not bode well.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 10:14 PM (T1005)

743 NDH, I can't open it here at work, but I assume it is something that would set my blood to boil. *** The SpaghettiOs company has taken a cartoon image of a Big Smiling 'O', added an American flag, and tweeted out "Take a moment to remember Pearl Harbor with us" Folks on twitter are equally aghast and amused. The second link I posted is to a photoshop with the SpaghettiOs guy standing on the hull of the sunken Titanic.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 10:15 PM (DmNpO)

744

I came out this morning and there were these strange deposits upon my windshield.

It seemed to be very cold water. I had to scrape some of it off before I could see. Anyone else had this happen?

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at December 06, 2013 10:17 PM (YMK+F)

745 742 No winner on Mega Millions tonight. Goes to $344 million next Tuesday.

They rejiggered the rules to encourage bigger jackpots and attract more players but perhaps they went too far. It used to be less likely you'd win the jackpot than be struck by lightning. Now it's less likely than being struck by lightning while doing an impression of Casey Kasem announcing the top 40 for the first week of June in 1973.

Posted by: Epobirs at December 07, 2013 02:13 AM (bPxS6)

Yo, Epobirs! Heads up, weather headed your way!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 10:18 PM (T1005)

746 So every year I will will think of my furry little girl, then my Grandfather the day after. My life was better thanks to them.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at December 07, 2013 02:11 AM (YMK+F)

Condolences on the passing of your dog, Tilikum, and thank you for so nicely honoring the memory of your grandfather.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2013 10:18 PM (8Fl6F)

747 BTW, here are some photos from my trip to New Orleans this week.

http://is.gd/eHxZSj

I didn't get to see nearly as much of the city as I wanted to, but I had an absolutely great time and can't wait to go back.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 06, 2013 10:19 PM (m0h0I)

748 728 So Paul Walker already has a charity.>> He was at his charity to raise money for the Philippines Typhoon victims just before he died. Was the reason he was in that area with his buddy with the Porsche. Posted by: The Hickster at December 07, 2013 01:53 AM (TI3xG) Most celebs and athletes set up charitable foundations. That way they can have a family member run it for a salary, and they get to set it up to take advantage of the tax rules. Oh, and since they just donate to their foundation, they don't have to personally say "no" to anyone, their foundation says no.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 06, 2013 10:19 PM (BXLPR)

749 I came out this morning and there were these strange deposits upon my windshield.
It seemed to be very cold water. I had to scrape some of it off before I could see. Anyone else had this happen?

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at December 07, 2013 02:17 AM (YMK+F)

If those damn seagulls keep going on those fiberglass resin binges, somebody's going to wind up hurt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2013 10:20 PM (8Fl6F)

750 I haven't been back to NOLA since I was there for a conference in...2009 I think. Great food, and the booze flowed like the slobber from an MSNBC host while praising their god-king.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 10:23 PM (sQ0LB)

751 I came out this morning and there were these strange deposits upon my windshield. >>

Not that odd to have the deposits. but they now make special glasses that see though them so you don't have to scrape them off. And for$20K you're good to go.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 06, 2013 10:23 PM (TI3xG)

752 Condolences, Tilikum.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 10:23 PM (sQ0LB)

753 743 Good lord, forecast high of 48 tomorrow.....and it's now 49.2. This does not bode well. Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 02:14 AM (T1005) Mrs and I went to see the local symphony's Holiday Pops show tonight. 72 when we walked in at 7pm with a light mist starting. 50 and pouring rain when we got out 2 hours later. Sunday calling for temps in upper 20's with snow. The Mrs has decreed that the lights will be put up outside tomorrow, and that we shall go hunt for a tree tomorrow morning. She held up a pair of teh sexeh panties and told me she would be wearing them tomorrow. So, I have no control, I am a slave to my desires.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 06, 2013 10:26 PM (BXLPR)

754 748 BTW, here are some photos from my trip to New Orleans this week.

http://is.gd/eHxZSj

I didn't get to see nearly as much of the city as I wanted to, but I had an absolutely great time and can't wait to go back.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 07, 2013 02:19 AM (m0h0I)

DDR, those are some great shots! I particularly liked _IGP4920, _IGP4946, and _IGP4975 -- photography must start with what is there, and quickly choose a frame for it, and I thought that the balance of what was included and what was excluded was particularly well chosen on those shots.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 10:29 PM (T1005)

755 @ 751 [Conservative Crank] -- Yeah, I was pretty much plowed within a couple of hours on Bourbon St. It's a wonder any of the photos came out with any discernible subject matter.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 06, 2013 10:30 PM (m0h0I)

756 741
Dec 6. The day before Pearl Harbor. My Grandfather was on the U.S.S. San Francisco heavy cruiser.
Today my 17 yr old Pekingese had to be put down. She was intelligent, mellow, LOVDED all people, and quiet-the antithesis of the breed. So perfect you would have thought she was genetically engineered,
So every year I will will think of my furry little girl, then my Grandfather the day after. My life was better thanks to them.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at December 07, 2013 02:11 AM (YMK+F)

I'm so sorry about your puppy, Tilikum.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 10:31 PM (T1005)

757 @ 755 [cthulhu] -- Thanks! Of the entire bunch, _IGP4946 is my favorite. The girl was a hell of a lot of fun to watch.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 06, 2013 10:35 PM (m0h0I)

758 @ 741 [Tilikum] -- I am sorry to hear that. I know how tough it is. But the 17 years of companionship more than makes up for the sense of loss when they finally have to go.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 06, 2013 10:43 PM (m0h0I)

759 758 @ 755 [cthulhu] -- Thanks! Of the entire bunch, _IGP4946 is my favorite. The girl was a hell of a lot of fun to watch.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 07, 2013 02:35 AM (m0h0I)

Yes, but it wouldn't have been as good of a pic without the rest. The whole composition works.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 10:46 PM (T1005)

760 Oh, did I mention? If the rain has cleared out tomorrow, I get to replace my garage door opener. It started making awful noises about two weeks ago, and today it wouldn't open more than a foot.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 10:48 PM (T1005)

761

Thanks for the condolences everyone. Not looking for sympathy but had to vent a little. My parents babysat my pek and even they are broken up. Too many people should aspire to be as good as she was.

My grandfather and a cousin (landed at Omaha beach) saw the worst of humanity. Yet they were damned fine people.

My grandfather became a firefighter after the war. Greatest generation indeed.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at December 06, 2013 10:52 PM (YMK+F)

762 @ 760 [cthulhu] -- Thanks again. There was a certain tension between her and the guy on the bench. He was doing his best to ignore her (tying his shoes, looking off in the opposite direction, etc.) while she appeared to be either trying to piss him off, or get him to lighten up. I thought the negative space between them captured some tension, and the difference in body language conveyed a sense of conflict between them.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 06, 2013 10:52 PM (m0h0I)

763 The radar is showing heavy rains all over the place, but only the tops of my patio chairs are wet.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 10:56 PM (T1005)

764

cthulhu. don't you hate that?

They predict the flood of Noah and you get little more than spit.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at December 06, 2013 11:00 PM (YMK+F)

765 Having read the whole thread, and being a pretty open minded guy, my position is unchanged.

If I decide not to sell you twizzlers because you're a one-legged gay chinese woman. Tough shit. My business, my rules.

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 11:05 PM (x3YFz)

766 It's currently 18Â° with about 4" - 5" sitting on top of about Â½" of ice where I am. We lucked out in this ice storm, but the roads are going to be pretty crappy for the next couple of days. The road crews couldn't do much of anything to prepare for it, since there was so much rain leading up to the ice.

But, all in all, it ain't too bad -- no power outages in my area or fallen trees. Just a hell of a lot of windshield scraping.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 06, 2013 11:05 PM (m0h0I)

767 765
cthulhu. don't you hate that?
They predict the flood of Noah and you get little more than spit.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at December 07, 2013 03:00 AM (YMK+F)

The night is young....

What gets me with these internet weather thingies is that they keep changing. So Wednesday, you get "100% chance of rain Friday night", and Thursday, you get "90% chance of rain Friday night", and 5:00 today, you get "80% chance of rain tonight", and a couple of hours ago, you get "it's raining". Well....no shit. Anyone can "see into the present", it's when you "see into the future" that you're worth listening to.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 11:06 PM (T1005)

768

"... a one-legged gay chinese woman..."

Sound like fappimg material to me.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at December 06, 2013 11:08 PM (YMK+F)

769 #746

I welcome it. It takes some of the edge off being stuck at home with nothing to do. December is typically a horrible month for getting work. All of the IT projects are wound down and no new will start until into the new year. The SOHO work tends to be at a crawl as well.

Posted by: Epobirs at December 06, 2013 11:09 PM (bPxS6)

770 "I'm single, maybe 6 people pass my house a day and I'm lazy.The first 2 are my excuses the last one is the reason I don't put up lights anymore. I have kids and lived used to live in town so I used to put them up."

Posted by: The Hickster at December 07, 2013 02:08 AM (TI3xG)

Hah! That's Cool. Maybe your kids will "discover them" and take an interest in electricity, amps, watts, volts or ohms.

Ambience versus Lumens.

Horse-Shit, Dance-Club "Bright" versus Glow.

...L.E.D. is "too harsh" to "be Christmas."

I'll be swayed by computer-controlled programs, however.

...as long as they play good tunes.

*subjective*

For Christmas Lights Tips and Tricks, The Horde gets Free Answers.

The hayoo addy is at the home made gravy, (seventy-one), all-one-word-just-add-numbers in the parenthesis' stead.

Tip #1. "Icicle Lights". Noting does more to add lines and depth to the outline of Your House.

Tip #2. "Windows". One "candle" in every window makes your house look pretty damn Glorious.

Tip #3. Make sure that an electrician tells you that your circuit(s) can hold that load.

...I'm at the home made gravy - thing at the yooha. Seventy-One.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 06, 2013 11:10 PM (lq3Ak)

771 Oh, and as a side note? Go to Atlanta as a whit person and try to get some food.

Good luck with that.

Protip: if they actually do bring out a plate? I strongly advise against eating it.

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 11:11 PM (x3YFz)

772

"... it's when you "see into the future" that you're worth listening to."

Well yeah, but that tsakes effort,skill, and actual science. Making shit up does not.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at December 06, 2013 11:11 PM (YMK+F)

773 Jeez. I go away for a bit (partly due to work blocking posting) and fapping is censored? WTF?

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at December 06, 2013 11:14 PM (YMK+F)

774 766 Having read the whole thread, and being a pretty open minded guy, my position is unchanged.

If I decide not to sell you twizzlers because you're a one-legged gay chinese woman. Tough shit. My business, my rules.

Posted by: tangonine at December 07, 2013 03:05 AM (x3YFz)

In business law courses, they go into a whole bunch of stuff about when a deal becomes a deal. The biggest parts of it are "offer" and "acceptance". If I say, "I'll pay $100 to anyone who takes a dump on that patrol car" and someone takes a dump on that patrol car, there are significant limitations to my being able to walk away from the deal -- and there should be, if courts maintain the law.

Similarly, if someone has a cake in their cold case with a price tag that says $40, anyone who picks it up and proceeds to the checkstand should be able to consummate their transaction -- even if they casually mention that they intend to douse it with gasoline and burn it on film as a protest against capitalism.

But to clear the air for the morning, I'll relate the little rhyme that they teach folks in law classes to illustrate the importance of the concepts of "honor", "acceptance", and "offer".

She offered her honor...

He accepted her offer...

...and it was honor and offer all night.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 11:15 PM (T1005)

775 774 Jeez. I go away for a bit (partly due to work blocking posting) and fapping is censored? WTF?

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at December 07, 2013 03:14 AM (YMK+F)
?? you must have some 3d party filter. Ace would never filter fapping.

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 11:16 PM (x3YFz)

776
She offered her honor...
He accepted her offer...
...and it was honor and offer all night.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 03:15 AM (T1005)

Do I need to bust out the Henry VI quote again?

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 11:17 PM (x3YFz)

777 "Dec 6. The day before Pearl Harbor. My Grandfather was on the U.S.S. San Francisco heavy cruiser.
Today my 17 yr old Pekingese had to be put down. She was intelligent, mellow, LOVDED all people, and quiet-the antithesis of the breed. So perfect you would have thought she was genetically engineered,
So every year I will will think of my furry little girl, then my Grandfather the day after. My life was better thanks to them."

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at December 07, 2013 02:11 AM (YMK+F)

My condolences for your loss.

...we all love our puppies.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 06, 2013 11:19 PM (lq3Ak)

778 696 Get all that stuff from Stewert mac Donald

Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 11:22 PM (b7yum)

779 777
She offered her honor...
He accepted her offer...
...and it was honor and offer all night.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 03:15 AM (T1005)

Do I need to bust out the Henry VI quote again?

Posted by: tangonine at December 07, 2013 03:17 AM (x3YFz)

Bust out whatever you'd like -- I happen to think that "take the money, release the good" can have a valid discrimination claim by a would-be customer, where compelling an "agree to take money, start creating good" arrangement is tantamount to slavery.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 11:24 PM (T1005)

780 Shit! I just remembered I left half a blackened shrimp po' boy in the fridge at the hotel. I wonder if they'll mail it to me?

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 06, 2013 11:25 PM (m0h0I)

781 Similarly, if someone has a cake in their cold case with a price tag that says $40, anyone who picks it up and proceeds to the checkstand should be able to consummate their transaction -- even if they casually mention that they intend to douse it with gasoline and burn it on film as a protest against capitalism.

But to clear the air for the morning, I'll relate the little rhyme that they teach folks in law classes to illustrate the importance of the concepts of "honor", "acceptance", and "offer".

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 03:15 AM (T1005)

I'm certain there are thousands of doctoral dissertations on the topic. But I'm just a dumb physicist and unwashed in the ways of lawyering.

It just seems to me that if someone decides not to engage in a financial transaction, that they cannot be compelled to do so, for whatever reason, and the reason doesn't even have to be good: it's freedom of choice.

I don't want to sell you a chicken hat so you have no right to compel me to make said chicken hat and sell it to you. The reason I decide not to sell you the chicken hat isn't important. I just chose not to sell you a chicken hat.

I mean at the end of the day what are you going to do? Put a gun to my head and make me produce a chicken hat that I'll sell to you? What if I decline? What then?

It's a logical fallacy. You can't enslave someone to make chicken hats. Well, you could, but that's a whole new can of worms.

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 11:25 PM (x3YFz)

782 So what's my new hash?
Friggin' ISP.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 06, 2013 11:31 PM (vjQ/G)

783 We are thoroughly agreed that you should not be compelled to make someone a chicken hat.

What I am saying is that there are circumstances where you can offer a chicken hat, as is, for $10, and that is a valid legal offer -- and someone showing up with a $10 bill and saying "fine, gimme" is a valid legal acceptance -- and then it's far too late to be arguing over what scum you will and won't associate with.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 11:31 PM (T1005)

784 Oh, no! I've got a vj and a slash!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 06, 2013 11:32 PM (vjQ/G)

785 I can't believe that I sold chicken hats for nearly seven years.

...what a waste of time.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 06, 2013 11:32 PM (lq3Ak)

786 783 So what's my new hash?
Friggin' ISP.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 07, 2013 03:31 AM (vjQ/G)

vajina Questions/Government????

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 11:33 PM (T1005)

787

I'll be back- I'm gonna join the AF band so I can be an E-12 or -13 for playing my trombone

We salute the rank, not the man

Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 11:33 PM (b7yum)

788 This topic actually overflows into the *cough* "right" to health care.

Note that the bill of rights comprises very specific freedoms that do not impinge on other people.

The *cough* right to health care implies that someone is obligated to care for your health.

So what if there are no doctors? Where's your right, now? Guess you're just screwed. It's not a right, it's a luxury.

Same same with the topic we've been at: Some purple dude in a wheelchair shows up on my lawnmowing business and demands I mow his lawn. I say fuck off and close the shop.

Now what? What's he going to do? Sue me for a transaction I didn't agree to? No jury will ever come down in his favor and I wouldn't even have to hire a lawyer. I'd just say: "I don't want to mow his lawn."

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 11:34 PM (x3YFz)

789 786 I can't believe that I sold chicken hats for nearly seven years.

...what a waste of time.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 03:32 AM (lq3Ak)

But did they make people happy? It's not like you coerced people into buying them.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 11:35 PM (T1005)

790 Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale May the memory of her joy and devotion be with you forever ... May the pain of her leaving be forgotten, in time ...

Posted by: Adriane... at December 06, 2013 11:35 PM (jdRXP)

791 My "hash" is a "fall-between" leak and squeak.

I don't know what that means.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 06, 2013 11:36 PM (lq3Ak)

792 Hey there Adriane

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 06, 2013 11:38 PM (sQ0LB)

793 I'll be back- I'm gonna join the AF band so I can be an E-12 or -13 for playing my trombone
We salute the rank, not the man

Posted by: DAve at December 07, 2013 03:33 AM (b7yum)

It would have been funny except there's so much wrong that it's not funny.

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 11:39 PM (x3YFz)

794 789 This topic actually overflows into the *cough* "right" to health care.

Note that the bill of rights comprises very specific freedoms that do not impinge on other people.

The *cough* right to health care implies that someone is obligated to care for your health.

So what if there are no doctors? Where's your right, now? Guess you're just screwed. It's not a right, it's a luxury.

Same same with the topic we've been at: Some purple dude in a wheelchair shows up on my lawnmowing business and demands I mow his lawn. I say fuck off and close the shop.

Now what? What's he going to do? Sue me for a transaction I didn't agree to? No jury will ever come down in his favor and I wouldn't even have to hire a lawyer. I'd just say: "I don't want to mow his lawn."

Posted by: tangonine at December 07, 2013 03:34 AM (x3YFz)

Damned right it overflows into all sorts of leftist tropes, because coercion is their stock-in-trade, and they'd luv, luv, luv getting into every "free market" transaction. But even free markets need policing -- otherwise, you'd hand over the cash and frequently get nothing.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 11:39 PM (T1005)

795

788 We salute the rank, not the man, Mr. Tango

Anything less would be prejudicial to good order

Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 11:40 PM (b7yum)

796 And here I was trying to pimp my chicken hat biz on the ONT.

Dammit!

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 11:40 PM (x3YFz)

797 #670

I'd want to know what the terms of those cab drivers' employment is in regard to their ability to make such choices. Are they self-employed or are they regular employees of the cab company? Independent contractors is common with cab companies. Unless they are considered self-employed it should be reasonable for the cab company to make it part of the terms of their employment that they cannot exercise refusal of service on a religious basis. The cab company is under no obligation to employ someone who will not execute the job requirements, regardless of their religious beliefs. You can exercise your religion but if that is not compatible with the nature of the job employment should be sought elsewhere.

If they are self-employed there there is still the licensing requirements of the city or county. It could easily be made part of the licensing requirement for the cab to include signage that states on what grounds service may be refused. Since this signage pretty much declares the operator of the cab to be an overly devout Muslim, they may find that the cost of extending their religious beliefs to their job may come at too high a cost.

As for the hotel refusing a black man's credit card, it sounds like they let themselves in for a deluge of negative publicity. Why is government interference needed?

Posted by: Epobirs at December 06, 2013 11:41 PM (bPxS6)

798 otherwise, you'd hand over the cash and frequently get nothing.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 03:39 AM (T1005)

So you're married, too? Welcome, brother.

Posted by: tangonine at December 06, 2013 11:42 PM (x3YFz)

799 Happy Friday Night in Spirit, Conservative Crank ...

Posted by: Adriane... at December 06, 2013 11:43 PM (jdRXP)

800 That's a good idea. I think I'll stick with that take on it.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 06, 2013 11:45 PM (vjQ/G)

801 Slapweasel - do you live down the street from me? Cause out of no where the house up the streets-ish is COVERED with lights in an absolutely tasteful arrangement...

Posted by: Adriane... at December 06, 2013 11:46 PM (jdRXP)

802 A trip to Home Depot to buy ... a toric screwdriver. Applied same to space heater. Air blasted dust bunnies. Swapped dirt. Tweezered cat hair. Vacuumed prodigiously. Applied space heater to floor under desk. Feet still frozen, but getting better ...

Posted by: Adriane... at December 06, 2013 11:54 PM (jdRXP)

803 Shit! I just remembered I left half a blackened shrimp po' boy in the fridge at the hotel. I wonder if they'll mail it to me? Any joke would probably be labeled gay baiting or raaaaacist, so ... How much does it cost to ship a fridge these days?

Posted by: Adriane... at December 06, 2013 11:56 PM (jdRXP)

804 Yo Berserk, if you are still around, got a good source for instrument-repair-grade powdered hide glue?

Also, food poisoning sucks.

Posted by: Piercello at December 07, 2013 01:11 AM (P4dpU)

Well 3 hours late anyway. I usually get the stuff from LMI. It's around $10 a pound. It works great.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2013 11:58 PM (FMbng)

805 Roses are red, And snap in liquid nitrogen, I think therefore, I'll put on heavier socks, When I go venturing, out again ... Burma Shave!!!!!

Posted by: Adriane... at December 06, 2013 11:59 PM (jdRXP)

806 Good Night, Everybody ... Keep Warm and Drive Double Plus Good ...

Posted by: Adriane... at December 07, 2013 12:01 AM (jdRXP)

807 Woof! Has anybody mentioned lately that it's cold out there?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 12:04 AM (T1005)

808 We are the law. The "order" is local. It is based on The Ten Commandments.

"Order" is applied knowledge of previous history with common-sense societal structure, so as to achieve Liberated Peace.

"Societal Welfare" is merely the insurance of your individual peace, Free from Federal Interference.

The Pre-Amble to The Constitution Does Not describe the powers of governance described by Federalists or Anti-Federalists. It gathers no Applied Credence, given the writings of the Progressives' Beloved Jefferson.

It is given less credence, given the architecture of Our Constitution. The Laws of Governance were described over The Bill of Rights. These first ten Articles have been written as such, because they represent themselves bare, naked and exposed to the general population.

...as they should be.

We Learn.

We didn't even think about Miranda Rights until the Seventies, right?

I'll defend your right to be "Im-Moral", but the public won't.

Be All that You Can Be.

...just suck less at it.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 12:06 AM (lq3Ak)

809 808 No, because that would require going out there to find out

Posted by: DAve at December 07, 2013 12:06 AM (b7yum)

810 794 Yeah sorry 'bout that and thank you anyways

Posted by: DAve at December 07, 2013 12:09 AM (b7yum)

811 810 808 No, because that would require going out there to find out

Posted by: DAve at December 07, 2013 04:06 AM (b7yum)

But my beer's out there!!!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 12:09 AM (T1005)

812 @ 804 [Adriane] -- Ha!

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 07, 2013 12:15 AM (m0h0I)

813 The "right" to health care is akin to the "positive rights" afforded to those unfortunate subjects of the former USSR.

Their constitution said that you, the individual, have no value, except in service to the State.

The State will provide you with all of your needs. Food, housing, medical care, occupation.

These will be provided for you at the end of a very long queue, and will be decidedly inferior to that which you may have had in a free society.

By the way, take note of "occupation". The purpose of your life shall be decided by a committee, who shall assess your strengths and weaknesses and shall assign you an occupation according to the whimsy of the Committee.

You have no say in the matter. Your life is determined by the State, for the utility of the State, as long as the State says you shall serve the State.

Posted by: navybrat at December 07, 2013 12:22 AM (AW7Gr)

814 "Slapweasel - do you live down the street from me?

Cause out of no where the house up the streets-ish is COVERED with lights in an absolutely tasteful arrangement...

Posted by: Adriane... at December 07, 2013 03:46 AM (jdRXP)

Hah! Nope.

It took me two weeks, (rain is Kryptonite), to get it done.

I know how he did it, though! It is as easy as having a basement.

And Halloween.

And Blinker-Lights.

And a "plan".

http://tinyurl.com/peld2er

What you see could've been done in one day. Three people would take less than three hours to do.

It could have never been done without "staging", however. If lights aren't replaced before they're hung? Good luck with "outages" on a roof.

I'd "Hang your Place" for Three-Hundred -to- Fifteen Hundred bucks.

In Northeast Ohio.

*only*

The Rest of You get "Tips".

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 12:23 AM (lq3Ak)

815 Put your cursor over the image and go "back" one click.

That's my doggeh.

She's still skeptical.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 12:27 AM (lq3Ak)

816 Not to detract from other significant events that occurred on this date, but today is Delaware Day, which commemorates when Delaware became the first state to ratify the United States Constitution in 1787. Suck it, Pennsylvania!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at December 07, 2013 12:28 AM (aTZSK)

817

817 What's a Delaware??? Something you cook with???

Is it oven-safe???

Posted by: DAve at December 07, 2013 12:29 AM (b7yum)

818 ...and YEAH, I'm "That Guy" who doesn't give a shit about his old camera, nor its settings.

It was charged and the date just went along with it.

That picture was taken two days ago.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 12:29 AM (lq3Ak)

819 I don't think that Delaware is oven-safe.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 12:31 AM (lq3Ak)

820 816 Put your cursor over the image and go "back" one click.

That's my doggeh.

She's still skeptical.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 04:27 AM (lq3Ak)

It's not lettin' me do that.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 12:31 AM (T1005)

821 Eat me, Krebs. If PA was only 2 counties in size it would have been ratified there first.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 07, 2013 12:33 AM (sQ0LB)

822 ...most of the Mid-West is oven-safe.

...the South-East has girded their loins.

...the South-West is made of Adobe.

The North-East just rejected their oven-type origins.

...Benjamin Franklin is livid. I need him to stops screaming. Please allow Freedom to Ring.

...Please?

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 12:38 AM (lq3Ak)

823 "It's not lettin' me do that. "Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 04:31 AM (T1005)

Then how's this?:

Doggeh:

http://tinyurl.com/po6z3nh

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 12:41 AM (lq3Ak)

824 If Ben Franklin were alive today, he'd be Rupert Murdoch with his own reality show and would be boffing both Hillary! and Moochele, just because he could.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 07, 2013 12:41 AM (sQ0LB)

825 I'd have less respect for Ben if he "boffed" either of those two dried clams.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 12:44 AM (lq3Ak)

826 824 "It's not lettin' me do that. "Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 04:31 AM (T1005)

Then how's this?:

Doggeh:

http://tinyurl.com/po6z3nh

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 04:41 AM (lq3Ak)

Woof! Is it just the pic, or is one eye substantially larger than the other (NTTAWWT)?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 12:45 AM (T1005)

827
"Woof! Is it just the pic, or is one eye substantially larger than the other (NTTAWWT)?"

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 04:45 AM (T1005)

It is just the "pic", but She is "skeptical"... no?

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 12:46 AM (lq3Ak)

828 Paige Remains Skeptical

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 12:48 AM (lq3Ak)

829 Whoops!

Paige Remains Skeptical: http://tinyurl.com/po6z3nh

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 12:49 AM (lq3Ak)

830 Speaking of dried clams I had a meeting with Maxine Waters today

Posted by: DAve at December 07, 2013 12:50 AM (b7yum)

831 I should have added "like a Viking." Ben did have a reputation with the ladies.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 07, 2013 12:50 AM (sQ0LB)

832 Thread appropriate pic:

http://tinyurl.com/mussdvs

In the category of why didn't I think of this pic caption:

http://tinyurl.com/mrvgx2z

Thank you for your attention. Here, have some underboob:

http://tinyurl.com/kyqamar

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 07, 2013 12:50 AM (cHZB7)

833 >> I should have added "like a Viking."

No, that would be more like a Yike! King.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 07, 2013 12:53 AM (cHZB7)

834 Once again, My Lighting Pride and Joy:

#1. http://tinyurl.com/o8gfvmx

#2. http://tinyurl.com/qdj7lhd

#3. http://tinyurl.com/peld2er

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 12:57 AM (lq3Ak)

835 Ed Driscoll quotes from ace's excellent MacGuffin post at PJ Media:

http://tinyurl.com/l9mwbxl

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 07, 2013 12:58 AM (cHZB7)

836 828
"Woof! Is it just the pic, or is one eye substantially larger than the other (NTTAWWT)?"

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 04:45 AM (T1005)
It is just the "pic", but She is "skeptical"... no?

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 04:46 AM (lq3Ak)

She is certainly that.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 12:59 AM (T1005)

837 "Speaking of dried clams I had a meeting with Maxine Waters today."

Posted by: DAve at December 07, 2013 04:50 AM (b7yum)

HAH! I'd read about that! She "quoted you", and such?!?

Did you say something about yellow and blue making "green" -?

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 12:59 AM (lq3Ak)

838 Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 04:59 AM (T1005)

At least Merovign doesn't patronize me as obviously. He'd be a welcome re-addition to the ONT.

Where's he been?

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 01:09 AM (lq3Ak)

839 838 Nahhh I asked her if she had any white in her etc...

Posted by: DAve at December 07, 2013 01:10 AM (b7yum)

840 839 That was a GREAT post there slappy. Keep up the great work!!!

Posted by: DAve, el patron(izer) at December 07, 2013 01:12 AM (b7yum)

841 838 Her husband made me think of Paris Hilton's dog. Get used to living as someone else's accessory

Posted by: DAve, el patron(izer) at December 07, 2013 01:13 AM (b7yum)

842 Slapweasel, I'm going to need you to go ahead and keep on posting like this on Saturday's ONT, okay? That'd be greaaaaat.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 07, 2013 01:15 AM (sQ0LB)

843 DAve: "Are you part-White? You know. In your 'heritage'?"

Maxine: "I'm mostly Stupid with an African-retard mix."

DAve: "How do you continue to exist?"

Maxine: "Taxpayers."

DAve: "Have a good evening."

Maxine: "Gumball Machine!"

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 01:16 AM (lq3Ak)

844 Everyone in watts knows that blacks are on their way to becoming an endangered species. They been replaced by a heartier race, and they keep voting in lockstep for the people doing the replacing

Posted by: DAve, el patron(izer) at December 07, 2013 01:19 AM (b7yum)

845 As you can tell, I'm just waiting to fall-over dead at this point.

*crack*

...maybe after this beer!?!

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 01:20 AM (lq3Ak)

846

Moar beer!

I will have to settle for a brandy filled chocolate cordial when I get home. Now, if only it had been blackberry brandy...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 07, 2013 01:21 AM (sQ0LB)

847 This generation of black leadership in l.a. may well be the last

Posted by: DAve, el patron(izer) at December 07, 2013 01:22 AM (b7yum)

848 "Slapweasel, I'm going to need you to go ahead and keep on posting like this on Saturday's ONT, okay? That'd be greaaaaat."

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 07, 2013 05:15 AM (sQ0LB)

Maybe if you were posting it, but my insomnia won't let me set my alarm for your timeline.

...My apologies.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 01:24 AM (lq3Ak)

849

So what did you say to Maxine?

Is this the line she's repeating? http://tinyurl.com/klwy3fo

Posted by: PMRich at December 07, 2013 01:24 AM (KDUNf)

850 839 Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 04:59 AM (T1005)

At least Merovign doesn't patronize me as obviously. He'd be a welcome re-addition to the ONT.

Where's he been?

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 05:09 AM (lq3Ak)

Whaddaya mean, "patronize"?!? Your precious girl is looking at the camera like "what, again?" and I can't say she's certainly looking skeptical?

I last responded to Merovign on the 2nd, so he was alive up until then.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 01:25 AM (T1005)

851 844 DAve: "Are you part-White? You know. In your 'heritage'?"

Maxine: "I'm mostly Stupid with an African-retard mix."

DAve: "How do you continue to exist?"

Maxine: "Taxpayers."

DAve: "Have a good evening."

Maxine: "Gumball Machine!"

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 05:16 AM (lq3Ak)

*snork*

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 01:27 AM (T1005)

852

850 What a f'in IDIOT she is. http://tinyurl.com/ledtrjp

She was at my school today to pressure all the white people in the room to give money to her constituents

Posted by: DAve, el patron(izer) at December 07, 2013 01:31 AM (b7yum)

853 I've got an "Ultimate" Ace-in-the-Hole:

-I owned a Tanning Salon.
-I hired a Black Man at my Tanning Salon.
-He knew the ins-and-outs of the epidermis.
-He understood the Process and the Ultraviolet Exposure.
-He knew moisturizers better than I did!

He worked for less than two years, but the dudes liked him and the ladies loved him.

Go ahead. Call me a "racist".

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 01:32 AM (lq3Ak)

854 While not reading or commenting, I'm putting together a garage door opener. The freakin' instructions were fine up until about 15 minutes ago, when they said to bend a tab up that was on the bottom of the rail. Dickheads. Like we're supposed to be thinking of step 4 while we do step 1.....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 01:32 AM (T1005)

855 853
850 What a f'in IDIOT she is. http://tinyurl.com/ledtrjp
She was at my school today to pressure all the white people in the room to give money to her constituents

Posted by: DAve, el patron(izer) at December 07, 2013 05:31 AM (b7yum)

She has actual constituents??? I thought she had "folks on her plantation".

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 01:33 AM (T1005)

856

856 very much the same thing

They still haven't realized that the main reason the black unemployment rate is so high is because of the millions of illegal aliens

Posted by: DAve, el patron(izer) at December 07, 2013 01:35 AM (b7yum)

857 Nah-nah---na-na-na-na...

I ain't gonna play Sun City!

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 01:37 AM (lq3Ak)

858 want some good news? The new generation of hispanic young men has about a zero-percent amount of white guilt vis a vis handouts to blacks. They're all very aware of the land of opportunity that their ancestors came to and what it has turned into instead as a result of the welfare state

Posted by: DAve, el patron(izer) at December 07, 2013 01:39 AM (b7yum)

859 Have to send that Amazon drone pic to my sister. She is a scary good skeet shooter who never picked up a gun until she was 46.

Posted by: Epobirs at December 07, 2013 01:40 AM (bPxS6)

860 Regular Dude: "Hand-Up?"

Congress: "Hand-Out."

Regular Dude: "That's enough."

Pelosi: "If we spend One Dollar on Unemployment, it returns One-Dollar Forty to The Economy."

Regular Dude: "Then why don't we spend more?"

Pelosi: "I don't know, but we should."

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 01:44 AM (lq3Ak)

861 That's all fucked up.

Posted by: Math at December 07, 2013 01:49 AM (lq3Ak)

862 It seems I'm entertaining myself. It's not like it hasn't been done before.

*dances*

HAH!

...that was perfect.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 01:54 AM (lq3Ak)

863

It seems I'm entertaining myself. It's not like it hasn't been done before.

That's because by this time in the morning my brain is fried. Just have to make it 1 more hour, then I get to drive the nasty roads home. I hope they cleared the roads some overnight.

Posted by: PMRich at December 07, 2013 02:00 AM (KDUNf)

864 Slap, at risk of sounding patronizing, even talking to yourself you type some good stuff.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 07, 2013 02:01 AM (sQ0LB)

865 The Christmas lights look great. I went very small scale this year due to knee and back issues. Wife told me that there was no way she was letting me go on the roof.

Posted by: PMRich at December 07, 2013 02:02 AM (KDUNf)

866 Just watched the concluding episode of Matt Berry's 'Toast of London,' about a struggling actor who is far more convinced of his talent than anyone else. Definitely not for everyone but very funny in parts. There are a bunch of clips on YouTube and the whole episodes (6+pilot) can be torrented at the usual places.

Posted by: Epobirs at December 07, 2013 02:06 AM (bPxS6)

867 867 Just watched the concluding episode of Matt Berry's 'Toast of London,' about a struggling actor who is far more convinced of his talent than anyone else. Definitely not for everyone but very funny in parts. There are a bunch of clips on YouTube and the whole episodes (6+pilot) can be torrented at the usual places.

Posted by: Epobirs at December 07, 2013 06:06 AM (bPxS6)

Matt Berry's entire corpus seems somewhat.....eclectic.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN1L3HN0cvg

Posted by: cthulhu at December 07, 2013 02:15 AM (T1005)

868 "The Christmas lights look great. I went very small scale this year due to knee and back issues. Wife told me that there was no way she was letting me go on the roof."

Posted by: PMRich at December 07, 2013 06:02 AM (KDUNf)

You should never get on the roof with knee and back "issues". If there is enough ice, (a few years back), I can't do it. I won't do it. I didn't do it.

-In perfect health.

Rain is "Kryptonite". You can't hang Christmas lights without a broken bulb "charging" a gutter. You're always going to get a "nummer-ass-stupid-fuck-bulb-fucker-of-bullshit".

...In Honor of God.

-Merry Christmas!

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 02:27 AM (lq3Ak)

869 ...and now I can't have "Paragraphs".

I can't space this proprietary sentence from the rest of the subject? Pixy?

... meh

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 02:30 AM (lq3Ak)

870 Ah yes, the Snuff Box with Rich Fulcher. Ran once on TV and never again.

Posted by: Epobirs at December 07, 2013 02:33 AM (bPxS6)

871 Matt Berry has a great fondness for getting beat up on camera.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdWI5OksQNI

Posted by: Epobirs at December 07, 2013 02:37 AM (bPxS6)

872 ...and now the spacing goes 'swimmingly'.

It took me longer to apologize to Pixy than it did to hang those lights.

My hyperbole has exceeded my self-made perimeter.

*woot*

...*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 02:41 AM (lq3Ak)

873 release the Vic!!

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 07, 2013 02:46 AM (sQ0LB)

874 Slap: "Good night, dumb, black lady."

Maxine: "Sugar, with the times i could tell you about..."

Slap: "Knock it off, dumb, black lady. -Goodnight."

Maxine: "Good night, cracker."

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 02:48 AM (lq3Ak)

875 finally?

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 07, 2013 02:51 AM (lq3Ak)

876 *taps screen* Is this blog on?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 07, 2013 03:15 AM (sQ0LB)

877 ((taps back)) no?

Posted by: blog at December 07, 2013 03:37 AM (cK3Ih)

878 Go away, we don't want ANY!

(kidding)

Posted by: sven at December 07, 2013 04:34 AM (9jfyN)

879 Late with the Common Core answer, but anyone on this site has to know the answer is "42".

Posted by: Kafiroon at December 07, 2013 08:33 AM (U0DWi)

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