March 19, 2013
— andy Cue the sad trombone for poor Dianne Feinstein. When we last saw her, Ted Cruz was mercilessly beating her with a simple question that she could only respond to with emotional blather because logic and fact are lost on her. And now Harry Reid has delivered the most unkindest cut of all.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said on Monday that a controversial assault weapons ban will not be part of a Democratic gun bill that was expected to reach the Senate floor next month.After a meeting with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Monday, a frustrated Feinstein said she learned that the bill she sponsored — which bans 157 different models of assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines — wouldn’t be part of a Democratic gun bill to be offered on the Senate floor. Instead, it can be offered as an amendment. But its exclusion from the package makes what was already an uphill battle an almost certain defeat.
6th grade was a tough year for DiFi, but I'm sure liberal "journalists" will be there to console her.
Just listened to Feinstein's takedown of Ted Cruz on radio, her off the cuff eloquence is lost on TV, listen w your eyes closed.
— Luke Russert (@LukeRussert) March 15, 2013
Related: Magpul is set to pull up stakes from Colorado, Defense Distributed gets its FFL
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Posted by: RioBravo at March 19, 2013 05:53 AM (eEfYn)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 19, 2013 05:54 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 05:56 AM (da5Wo)
Luke needs a class in logic.
I want to know why "appeal to authority" works as a logical argument for liberals, but not for conservatives.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 05:56 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 19, 2013 05:57 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: HB Goon at March 19, 2013 05:57 AM (CB4QO)
Posted by: H. at March 19, 2013 05:57 AM (zCQAZ)
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 05:58 AM (GQ8sn)
But its exclusion from the package makes what was already an uphill battle an almost certain defeat.
Well, if Rob Portman's son told Dad he doesn't like guns either, that's at least one vote.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 19, 2013 05:58 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 19, 2013 05:59 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: jd at March 19, 2013 05:59 AM (Tjv8J)
His father was a reliable liberal.
He just wasn't a douche.
Although, I'm not seeing much daylight in that fine distinction.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2013 06:00 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at March 19, 2013 06:00 AM (XvrTA)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 19, 2013 06:00 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Regular Moron at March 19, 2013 10:00 AM (feFL6)
duh.
Posted by: George Zimmerman at March 19, 2013 06:01 AM (AWmfW)
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 09:58 AM (GQ8sn)
__
His old man started out OK, but as time progressed he just became a big blathering libtard grinning balloon head.
Posted by: kallisto at March 19, 2013 06:02 AM (jm/9g)
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 06:02 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: jimmytheclaw at March 19, 2013 06:02 AM (Sex4z)
Fixed... like a bayonet on an assault rifle.
Posted by: andycanuck at March 19, 2013 06:03 AM (ORGYc)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 19, 2013 06:04 AM (3Mkrp)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at March 19, 2013 06:04 AM (7ObY1)
If it needs to be said, this is not the end. It's a pause.
They are always only regrouping after their defeats, and it's only a matter of time before they are back at it.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 19, 2013 06:04 AM (TOk1P)
Her bill did not ban 157 different models of assault weapons and high capacity ammunition magazines. It banned 157 different models of ordinary everyday firearms and regular factory-capacity magazines.
Posted by: the roof is on fire at March 19, 2013 06:05 AM (sD84o)
Posted by: Sardiver at March 19, 2013 06:05 AM (AXyXV)
>>her off the cuff eloquence is lost on TV
Good grief.
Well, I'm sure that line won't be used against him every time he opens his mouth. Always.
Made for radio eloquence...riiiight.
Posted by: Mama AJ at March 19, 2013 06:05 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: monica at March 19, 2013 06:05 AM (ORGYc)
Posted by: [/i]akula51 at March 19, 2013 06:05 AM (Vgn84)
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 19, 2013 06:06 AM (A9hpr)
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at March 19, 2013 06:07 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Dianne Feinstein at March 19, 2013 06:08 AM (oB7O2)
Posted by: jimmytheclaw at March 19, 2013 06:08 AM (Sex4z)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 19, 2013 06:09 AM (1V6Pv)
Beeyotch has eyes and sees shit! How dare you, sir.
Posted by: Fritz at March 19, 2013 06:09 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Salt Creek at March 19, 2013 06:09 AM (CB4QO)
Posted by: monica
Keeping it off the muff....that's the smoking section.
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at March 19, 2013 06:09 AM (BrQrN)
Posted by: monica at March 19, 2013 06:10 AM (ORGYc)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at March 19, 2013 06:10 AM (IkHXL)
#37, Well, since this one has more comments, I'd guess that...
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This one gets it. It's the AoS way.
Posted by: Jess1 at March 19, 2013 06:11 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: Rule #2 at March 19, 2013 06:11 AM (CypDC)
Posted by: no good deed at March 19, 2013 06:12 AM (oB7O2)
Whatever the house and senate eventually reconcile will almost certainly include de facto national firearm registration so I don't see much reason to celebrate. Good on Magpul, though.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's award-winning solid gold diaphragm at March 19, 2013 06:12 AM (7xeJQ)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 19, 2013 06:12 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Ernst Hollings at March 19, 2013 06:12 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Diane Feinstein at March 19, 2013 06:13 AM (mV8sg)
Posted by: naturalfake at March 19, 2013 06:14 AM (G9qZk)
Posted by: ChampionCapua at March 19, 2013 06:14 AM (q00GQ)
Posted by: Zombie Sheriff Darth Tim Russert at March 19, 2013 06:15 AM (MBqvE)
Posted by: cicero skip at March 19, 2013 06:19 AM (3m9Uc)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2013 06:34 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2013 06:35 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2013 06:35 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2013 06:36 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 06:36 AM (GQ8sn)
72 So about my question in #25. Anyone know the answer?
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 10:36 AM (GQ8sn)
The kind with the shoulder thing that goes up?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 06:38 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: clemenza at March 19, 2013 06:38 AM (HMQ8k)
Posted by: no good deed at March 19, 2013 06:39 AM (oB7O2)
Posted by: clemenza at March 19, 2013 06:39 AM (HMQ8k)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at March 19, 2013 06:39 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Hillary "artisanal" Clinton at March 19, 2013 06:39 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 19, 2013 06:40 AM (L2I78)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2013 06:41 AM (XYSwB)
80 You can really tell Feinstein schools Cruz if you close your eyes and imagine her as Ned Beatty in Deliverance.
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 19, 2013 10:40 AM (L2I7
Well that was unnecessarily horrifying.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 06:42 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Attila at March 19, 2013 06:42 AM (Cs2tJ)
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 06:42 AM (53z96)
7 Marines dead in a training accident in NV.
My stepson just left for more training this morning. Probably not a good idea to tell my wife about this story.
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 06:44 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Former Mass. Resident at March 19, 2013 06:45 AM (VRCBg)
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 10:44 AM (GQ8sn)
A couple years ago they had a rash of accidents with training pilots down in Corpus Christi. Where my BIL was stationed. And was an instructor.
My in laws would freak every time until they heard from him. Didn't matter what the details of the story were, until my MIL heard from him personally, it was freakout time.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 06:46 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 10:02 AM (GQ8sn)
5.7 upper. I don't think its sold as a rifle. You just slap it on and push the pins. The spent brass drops down the magwell.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 19, 2013 06:46 AM (t06LC)
Luke Russert, charter member of the Lucky Sperm Club
Posted by: kbdabear at March 19, 2013 06:47 AM (mCvL4)
Posted by: BSR at March 19, 2013 06:47 AM (CBCxo)
Yup. I think my wife is going to be on full freakout mode from now on.
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 06:47 AM (GQ8sn)
87 -
Real sorry to hear that. I don't understand why, but it seems they have more training accidents than any other branch. I have always assumed their equipment is crappy and old, comparatively speaking.
Thoughts and prayers...
Posted by: BurtTC at March 19, 2013 06:47 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Luke Russert at March 19, 2013 06:48 AM (DGIjM)
Posted by: ejo at March 19, 2013 06:48 AM (GXvSO)
@89
I remember those. Seemed like a lot of them at one time. I especially recall the T-45 which had trouble leading the pilot to eject. The plane landed itself in a field and was mostly unharmed.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 19, 2013 06:49 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 06:50 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 19, 2013 06:52 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: johnd01 at March 19, 2013 06:52 AM (ukNFU)
Well, we may have dodged that bullet, but I'm sure the Dem/Coms in DC will find another way to screw us and the Constitution.
SNAFU.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 19, 2013 06:53 AM (+z4pE)
Jeezis Christ Luke Russert is a fucking pussy.
Wow.
She was just so enchanting...
He is less masculine than his potato head father. Good gravy.
Posted by: Rev dr E buzz at March 19, 2013 06:53 AM (raGXo)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 19, 2013 06:54 AM (xN73L)
Posted by: ChampionCapua at March 19, 2013 06:54 AM (q00GQ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 19, 2013 06:55 AM (xN73L)
I seem to recall Plugs Biden running over to Colorado right before all this shit happened.
I am guessing old Creeper Barry sent his sas over there to get this whole shitstorm going.
The timing was quite obvious. Then those asinine comments from the dillhole Dems about chicks not needing to protect themselves, at all, and now this.
But no collusion, of course not!!! IMPOSSIBLE!!!
Posted by: Rev dr E buzz at March 19, 2013 06:55 AM (raGXo)
Doesn't matter. I wasn't going to obey it anyway.
Posted by: Ook? at March 19, 2013 06:55 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2013 06:55 AM (9Bj8R)
Stolen from Facebook:
If you're a vegan atheist who does mud runs, how do you decide which conversation to annoy people with first?
and
Did you know America ranks the lowest in education but the highest in drug use? We can fix that. All we need to do is start a war on education.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 06:56 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2013 06:56 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Baldy at March 19, 2013 06:57 AM (opS9C)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 19, 2013 06:57 AM (xN73L)
Um, Luke, dude, DiFi didn't take down Cruz, it was the other way around. And she did not answer his question.
Her reply was unseemly and showed she thinks she's teh shizzle. Maybe one of her idiot aides should tell her that bullets don't "implode."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 19, 2013 06:59 AM (+z4pE)
From those stockpiles Saddam Hussein trucked to Syria, and handed over to the Syrian government.
Posted by: Kristophr at March 19, 2013 07:00 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: Regular Moron at March 19, 2013 10:00 AM (feFL6)
DiFi tried to compare Guns to Child Pornography to answer Cruz's question (in fairness I suppose only after someone else proposed it from the crowd.)
Which the MSM will count as "eloquence" not realizing of course that the 1st amendment protects regular old adult pornography (IIRC there's lots of caselaw on this) however the so-called "exception" to it in the case of children has zero to do with "speech" and everything to do with "consent." So the comparison is horrifically wrong on so many levels.
As an aside if DiFi had any actual eloquence she'd have tried to compare the "imminent threat" standard of 1A restriction to some sort of sophistry about guns. (I'm not saying it's a *good* argument, just that it produces more red meat than what she tried.)
Posted by: tsrblke (work) at March 19, 2013 07:00 AM (ULkyQ)
Posted by: Attila at March 19, 2013 07:02 AM (Cs2tJ)
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 07:02 AM (53z96)
Posted by: mpfs, assualt fishstick at March 19, 2013 07:02 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 10:02 AM (GQ8sn)
One that's chambered for 5.7.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 19, 2013 07:03 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 19, 2013 07:03 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 19, 2013 07:03 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at March 19, 2013 07:04 AM (9+ccr)
FWIW, NBCnews has been reporting "someone" used gas. Everyone's pointing fingers at the other guy.
Since we can't trust anyone over there I'm forced to resort to Occam's razor which would point to Assad only because his access to it would be easier.
But anyway, that red line, we're totally still doing that right.
Posted by: tsrblke (work) at March 19, 2013 07:04 AM (ULkyQ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 19, 2013 10:57 AM
If all you're doing is selling ammo you can get a kind of FFL-Lite. It's pretty cheap. But you'll also need to get all the crap business stuff, including liability insurance, and that's what's going to cost you.
From a pure materials standpoint, $3k for equipment and brass/lead/primers seems a little low to me.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 19, 2013 07:04 AM (tVWQB)
Posted by: SurferDoc at March 19, 2013 07:05 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 19, 2013 07:05 AM (RTZ9e)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 19, 2013 07:06 AM (e0xKF)
127@EC,
FWIW, NBCnews has been reporting "someone" used gas. Everyone's pointing fingers at the other guy.
Don't look at me!
Posted by: Al Roker at March 19, 2013 07:06 AM (UrENZ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 19, 2013 07:06 AM (xN73L)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 19, 2013 07:07 AM (xN73L)
Speaking of Magpul and Defense Distributed, that brings up a question about the 3D printing craze: Why? Just... why?
Defense Distributed, according to the article, recently made a magazine that fed 347 rounds before shitting the bed. For a 30-round magazine, that's less than 12 cycles before it fails. What amazing new technology! And I can make this wonderment of reliability in the comfort of my own home?! Tell me more!
On the other hand, Magpul already makes plastic magazines that don't fail after 11.5 loads. And the cost is a hell of a lot cheaper.
Hasn't plastic been around for over 100 years already? Why are we inventing ways to make it LESS useful? For less than $5K I could buy an injection molder and all the dies I need to start pumping out high quality magazines, pistol grips, foregrips, buttstocks, etc.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 07:07 AM (CJjw5)
I hope both sides use poison gas on each other. Fuck them all.
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 07:07 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 19, 2013 07:08 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: H. at March 19, 2013 07:08 AM (zCQAZ)
Posted by: SurferDoc at March 19, 2013 07:09 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 19, 2013 07:10 AM (xN73L)
Freaking love this guy. And he's not alone. County sheriffs in CO are lining up behind him. No one is going to enforce this shit.
Sheriffs are elected officials here and run all LE in the state. City police don't do dick without permission from the county guys. Now, in my county, our sheriff has a horse stable not 2 miles down the road from me, and whenever I see one of his deputies parked on the side of the road running traffic, I bring him a cup of coffee.
Dear Misplanted California Liberals,
You fucked with the wrong cowboys. We've got this. You should probably just turn around. You're not welcome here any more.
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2013 07:12 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 19, 2013 11:07 AM (CJjw5)
IMO you're seeing a tech that has some good, useable applications being force fit into an application for which it wasn't designed in response to current events. And I believe that everyone associated with 3-D guns/mags/etc is very upfront about saying this is the very beginning of the process, not anywhere near an end product.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 07:12 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Sen. Dianne Feinstein at March 19, 2013 07:12 AM (Ys0KI)
Defense Distributed, according to the article, recently made a magazine that fed 347 rounds before shitting the bed. For a 30-round magazine, that's less than 12 cycles before it fails. What amazing new technology! And I can make this wonderment of reliability in the comfort of my own home?! Tell me more!
On the other hand, Magpul already makes plastic magazines that don't fail after 11.5 loads. And the cost is a hell of a lot cheaper.
Hasn't plastic been around for over 100 years already? Why are we inventing ways to make it LESS useful? For less than $5K I could buy an injection molder and all the dies I need to start pumping out high quality magazines, pistol grips, foregrips, buttstocks, etc.
For one, this is a home-brew project and not a commercial operation. Someone is using technology that isn't the injection molding type to make something equivalent.
Second, this takes the pressure off a commercial vendor supplying the product and into the hands of the masses that can reproduce the product at home by themselves. No one will know how many of these mags they have. If and when they finally figure out how to make the plastic durable enough to pass mil-spec standards, this will be awesome.
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 07:13 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Katfish at March 19, 2013 07:13 AM (Nx5wc)
Posted by: Sen. Dianne Feinstein at March 19, 2013 11:12 AM (Ys0KI)
Hate to break it to you, but you are the ass.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 19, 2013 07:13 AM (DrWcr)
Yeah I think AllenG's got it.
Also I'd add that the price of 3D printers is going to drop fairly quickly over the next few years. Lack of high demand and mass production seems to be what's keeping their price up, but just like flatscreen TV's someone will innovate a way to make them significantly cheaper soon enough.
Also I could be wrong, but I think that an injection molder takes skill to use. 3D printers, not so much. Load up the spec hit "go."
Posted by: tsrblke (work) at March 19, 2013 07:13 AM (ULkyQ)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 19, 2013 07:13 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: eman at March 19, 2013 07:14 AM (64rcm)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2013 07:14 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: L, elle at March 19, 2013 07:14 AM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 19, 2013 07:15 AM (LP0Fj)
Note to self: don't play the "pull my finger" trick in Damascus
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 19, 2013 07:15 AM (QTHTd)
Boy oh BOY I sure do miss that gorgeous front range! (aka far northwestern TEXAS
)Posted by: Katfish at March 19, 2013 07:15 AM (Nx5wc)
Posted by: polynikes at March 19, 2013 07:17 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: polynikes at March 19, 2013 11:17 AM (m2CN7)
The Bill of Rights must have gotten lost in the mail.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 19, 2013 07:18 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 19, 2013 07:18 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 19, 2013 07:19 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: and irresolute at March 19, 2013 07:20 AM (DBH1h)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2013 07:20 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: SurferDoc at March 19, 2013 11:18 AM (6H6FZ)
By all appearances he already has one, and it constantly has sand in it.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 19, 2013 07:20 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 19, 2013 07:20 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 19, 2013 07:21 AM (xN73L)
Posted by: Katfish at March 19, 2013 11:15 AM (Nx5wc)
I miss San Antonio. Not the gangs or the heat... but hell. It's just Texas.
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2013 07:21 AM (x3YFz)
Lindsey Graham @GrahamBlog: Finally, I applaud and appreciate @SenRandPaul support for a path to citizenship. This is an important piece of immigration reform.
I wouldn't trust that cocksucker to tell me the sun rises in the east.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 19, 2013 07:21 AM (zF6Iw)
I misspoke. I should have said Matthews has an intern shave his snatch and saved us all a few pixels.
Posted by: SurferDoc at March 19, 2013 07:22 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: traye at March 19, 2013 07:22 AM (Aaz/e)
Posted by: irright at March 19, 2013 07:23 AM (pMGkg)
Posted by: Yale Taft Portman: Gay Son at March 19, 2013 07:23 AM (wIgpo)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 19, 2013 07:24 AM (UU0OF)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 19, 2013 07:25 AM (B/VB5)
At the last gun show I went to, I stopped at the local Tea Party Patriots table and was talking to the guys there. Signed up for the email list. Then came the intense looks, lowered voices and Agenda 21.
Now I've just gotten a hysterical email about how Agenda 21 is coming to Jacksonville. "Our mayor is highly educated in Agenda 21 and came directly from A21 and was put in our city to implement it."
I repeat, FFS.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 07:25 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 19, 2013 11:25 AM (B/VB5)
If that's the case, I welcome our new alien overlords.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 19, 2013 07:26 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: DocJ at March 19, 2013 07:26 AM (A5uiv)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2013 07:27 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: irright at March 19, 2013 11:23 AM (pMGkg)
What Bawney Fwank gets after partying too hard on the weekend.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 19, 2013 07:27 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 10:07 AM (GQ8sn)
Saddam's WMDs, shipped to Syria before the beginning of the war.
Posted by: joncelli at March 19, 2013 07:27 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2013 07:28 AM (XYSwB)
I miss San Antonio. Not the gangs or the heat... but hell. It's just Texas.
I miss El Paso. Yeah, I just said that. I was so excited to get a job in Colorado Springs, but with the way that this state is going I'm already starting to look towards getting the hell out in a few years.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 19, 2013 07:28 AM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 19, 2013 07:28 AM (RTZ9e)
Posted by: SurferDoc at March 19, 2013 07:30 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 19, 2013 07:30 AM (xN73L)
I will give the dems this, they are nothing if not robotic about their messaging. I can't even count the number of times I have heard "common sense gun control legislation" come out of the pie holes of national, state and local dems.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 19, 2013 07:31 AM (IY7Ir)
192 BCochran, sounds like your 'Tea Party Patriots' have been hitting the Conspiracy Sippy Cup.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 19, 2013 11:28 AM (RTZ9e)
I know. Upside, they're doing a raffle at some event soon where they're raffling off 2 SpringfieldXD 9mm's.
That I will be attending just long enough to buy a ticket.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 07:31 AM (da5Wo)
AllenG, will you be buying once-used brass, or scavenging? And do you intend to limit yourself to pistol cartridges at first?
For pistol components, bullet, primer and powder might cost you 0.18 to 0.25 per round, so if you stock up for 10k rounds that's $2500. I never buy brass, but I recall the prices for a small bag seem outrageous. You may want to find a source of spent and dirty casings that you can add value to. And research a cleaning process conducive to mass production.
Posted by: Rule #2 at March 19, 2013 07:31 AM (CypDC)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 19, 2013 07:31 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: irright at March 19, 2013 07:31 AM (8GKDa)
183 -
I'm on an email list. I love these people like my own brothers, but jeez I get tired of the hyperbolic "end of the world as we know it" nonsense.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 19, 2013 07:32 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at March 19, 2013 07:32 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: archie goodwin at March 19, 2013 07:32 AM (Jsiw/)
I don't need theories or papers to tell me what the end game is and how they're going about it, I can see it right in front of me. I can read about it every day. I can watch it on the news every night.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 19, 2013 07:34 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 19, 2013 07:34 AM (xN73L)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 19, 2013 07:36 AM (xN73L)
Posted by: AnnaS at March 19, 2013 07:36 AM (rOtZ6)
"Now I've just gotten a hysterical email about how Agenda 21 is coming to Jacksonville. "Our mayor is highly educated in Agenda 21 and came directly from
A21 and was put in our city to implement it."
"I repeat, FFS."
It's always crazy tinfoil hat stuff...until it's not.
Over-the-top reactions aside, the essential kernel of truth of the matter remains.
Posted by: Jaws at March 19, 2013 07:37 AM (4I3Uo)
http://www.godirtygirl.com/
Posted by: Katfish at March 19, 2013 07:37 AM (Nx5wc)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at March 19, 2013 07:37 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Jean at March 19, 2013 07:37 AM (DcbLC)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 19, 2013 07:39 AM (u82oZ)
It's the same bullshit as all conspiracy theories. Look hard enough and you can connect the dots to whatever conclusion you want to reach. Loose Change and Fahrenheit 9/11 are great examples.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 19, 2013 07:39 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 19, 2013 07:39 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Deli LLama at March 19, 2013 07:39 AM (lGu1O)
I was surprised to see that there are some off-brand makers of jacketed bullets out there - Montana Gold for one, and Zero Bullet Co. I've bought from both and the quality looks good.
Posted by: Rule #2 at March 19, 2013 07:40 AM (CypDC)
Posted by: Roy at March 19, 2013 07:40 AM (VndSC)
If they (gun owners and manufacturers) wait long enough the good citizens who support such legislation would be more than happy to pay for that last train ride out of town/state.
Posted by: Obamao at March 19, 2013 07:40 AM (JtyGg)
Posted by: Jackj at March 19, 2013 07:41 AM (4WesI)
Injection molding can produce a better product than 3D printing.
BUT when the products are illegal, and the cops bust down your door, the dies and molding machine are EVIDENCE. A 3D printer is just a printer. It is not evidence.
Posted by: rd at March 19, 2013 07:42 AM (zLp5I)
The Russians were quick (too quick) to label it a rebel attack.
Don't worry, Obama's got this.
Posted by: Tocquevillian at March 19, 2013 07:42 AM (iuY0Y)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at March 19, 2013 07:42 AM (kXoT0)
http://is.gd/lTrZ5T
This has to be illegal as hell.
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 07:42 AM (53z96)
Anybody can be bought these days
Posted by: Jackj at March 19, 2013 07:43 AM (4WesI)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 19, 2013 07:44 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 19, 2013 07:44 AM (1V6Pv)
And NZ has a Center right Government. Scary
Posted by: Jackj at March 19, 2013 07:44 AM (4WesI)
If they (gun owners and manufacturers) wait long enough the good citizens who support such legislation would be more than happy to pay for that last train ride out of town/state.
Posted by: Obamao at March 19, 2013 11:40 AM (JtyGg)
Too bad it's the same train the fucking imbeciles rode in from California on. They should just get on and ride it back to the worker's paradise they created there. Coloradians didn't want or need their sorry asses.
Posted by: maddogg at March 19, 2013 07:44 AM (OlN4e)
So is poison gas really that grave an escalation? Forget it Jake, its Syriatown. And before I forget, from Moshe Ma'oz book about Hafiz al-Asad 'Asad - The Sphinx of Damascus' it is mentioned between 1976 and 1979 the US and other countries including Iraq supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 19, 2013 07:44 AM (RTZ9e)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 19, 2013 07:45 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: kallisto at March 19, 2013 07:45 AM (jm/9g)
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 07:45 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2013 07:45 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 19, 2013 07:46 AM (xN73L)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 19, 2013 07:46 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2013 07:47 AM (9Bj8R)
Hickenpooper and Udall are both up in 2014. As of now they have no real GOP Opponents
Posted by: Jackj at March 19, 2013 07:47 AM (4WesI)
Syria,
The "chemical attack" mentioned a chlorine smell. Maybe the perpetrator used chlorine gas? Or maybe it was a conventional explosive rocket that hit a chlorine gas pressure tank?
FYI Chlorine gas is used in many water systems to disinfectthe water and to kill bacteria. It is cheap and easy to use in a water treatment system. You can also use a hypochlorite (liquid bleach) product, but gas was used in a lot of older systems.
Posted by: rd at March 19, 2013 07:47 AM (zLp5I)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2013 11:47 AM (9Bj8R)
You got that right...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at March 19, 2013 07:47 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2013 07:47 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Vic at March 19, 2013 07:48 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 19, 2013 07:48 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: Jackj at March 19, 2013 07:48 AM (4WesI)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 19, 2013 07:49 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 19, 2013 07:49 AM (QXlbZ)
So just your tin foil away. No one seeks political office because they seek power.
No man who has ever been called strongman, despot, tyrant, dictator, prince, king, caeser, emperor, shah, etc wanted power over others.
Please, go back to sleep.
Posted by: Obamao at March 19, 2013 07:49 AM (JtyGg)
Posted by: AnnaS at March 19, 2013 07:49 AM (rOtZ6)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 19, 2013 07:50 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 07:50 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 19, 2013 07:50 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Jaimo at March 19, 2013 07:51 AM (9U1OG)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 19, 2013 07:51 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: AnnaS at March 19, 2013 11:49 AM (rOtZ6)
I fear not. Both Co. and Florida have turned mostly blue... It's creeping in and I'm afraid that there will only be a small mostly Southern red States voting block. Hope I'm wrong...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at March 19, 2013 07:51 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: polynikes at March 19, 2013 07:52 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: maddogg at March 19, 2013 07:52 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Award-Winning Assault Citizen Anachronda at March 19, 2013 07:52 AM (FzhYM)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 07:53 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: 11B40 at March 19, 2013 07:53 AM (Z/kDh)
"My point is to have ammunition available for sale or to give as gifts to friends. "
Sounds like a less-than-commercial kind of scenario that could be worked out with a Dillon (or eq.) progressive press rather than some seriously big money setup.
Gathering components to roll your own is a stone bitch right now. Primers especially, followed by projectiles. Projectiles are solvable for most pistol applications by casting your own. Higher-velocity applications are another can of worms. I'm personally working through the process of powdercoating my boolits to deal with that independently. Work in progress.
Primers will be a neverending and expensive quest for the forseeable future - and that's *if* the other gun control shoe fails to fall.
Depending on your scale, you may be able to procure unsorted, dirty brass from the operator of an indoor range if you offer him one more dollar then the commercial reloader to whom he's currently offloading his floor sweepings.
Posted by: Jaws at March 19, 2013 07:53 AM (4I3Uo)
Speaking of money grabs, does the military still use script at any of the overseas posts?
Back when I was in Korea, we were paid in script. Used just like cash, but if you wanted to buy things off base you were suppose to trade it in at the bank for Korean money. Of course that never happened, as the Korean would give you a better rate.
Everything worked fine until one night when the base was locked down and the script was exchanged for a different style. The old script was worthless. If you had a ton of it, you needed to be able to explain where it came from.
Koreans were tossing bags of the stuff over the fence hoping to get it exchanged. Some committed suicide.
Posted by: jwest at March 19, 2013 07:53 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2013 07:53 AM (XkWWK)
As someone who has produced guns from raw materials, I can assure you they are not easy to produce. Not decent, safe, accurate,and reliable ones capable of going into conflict at least.
Posted by: maddogg at March 19, 2013 11:52 AM (OlN4e)
But simple zip guns can be used to get you a nice government issued gun if it all falls apart.
Posted by: rd at March 19, 2013 07:54 AM (zLp5I)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 19, 2013 07:54 AM (RTZ9e)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at March 19, 2013 07:57 AM (oe1aw)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2013 07:58 AM (XYSwB)
Or you can exchange yer shillelagh for the .gov gun.
Posted by: Obamao at March 19, 2013 07:58 AM (JtyGg)
Posted by: rd at March 19, 2013 11:54 AM (zLp5I)
Zip guns are an act of desperation. You certainly wouldn't topple a government with them. You might secure a usable arm with them, if you are smart, stealthy, and CLOSE.
Posted by: maddogg at March 19, 2013 07:58 AM (OlN4e)
We need better control of the narrative
Posted by: minxxy at March 19, 2013 07:59 AM (qxcKC)
"Essentially a 400 acre Special Forces obstacle course/race you and a few thousand friends run and proceeds go to the Wounded Warrior Project. It sounds like way more fun than a traditional marathon if you're into that sort of thing."
Find another race. TM is fun but WWP can go choke on a bag of dicks. What was once a respectable organization I sent thousands to has become a progtard-penetrated, antigun, non-profit-but-not-really sham. Fuck be upon them forevermore.
Posted by: Jaws at March 19, 2013 07:59 AM (4I3Uo)
As someone who has produced guns from raw materials, I can assure you they are not easy to produce. Not decent, safe, accurate,and reliable ones capable of going into conflict at least.
A few years ago, Discovery, (I think), ran a special on how small shops in Pakistan produced weapons....often times in very small stalls, from lumps of scrap metal. Chopped up ships were popular, because the steel was of the right thickness. They'd rough it in, mill it out, then carbon soak it for 24 hours. Barrels were drilled out by hand...frequently by children...rifled too. Non metallic parts were carved by hand.
They were cranking out cheap copies of just about any firearm you wanted. It was pretty interesting.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 19, 2013 08:00 AM (0IhFx)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 19, 2013 08:00 AM (RTZ9e)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2013 08:00 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 19, 2013 08:01 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2013 08:01 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 19, 2013 08:02 AM (RTZ9e)
Posted by: rd at March 19, 2013 11:54 AM (zLp5I)
Many times this.
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at March 19, 2013 08:04 AM (rXcBX)
Posted by: Richard Jewell at March 19, 2013 08:04 AM (xGZ+b)
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 19, 2013 12:00 PM (0IhFx)
Yeah, I saw that. They substituted highly skilled hand labor for precision equipment. Parts would be of dubious quality, as the heat treat was hit or miss. If they weren't working for 10 cents an hour, they would be incredibly expensive. How many here can hand file an AK-47 from a block of hot rolled steel, case harden it and make a shooter? Not many, I'll wager. Takes a lifetime of working with hand tools to gain that level of skill, and even then the parts would not interchange.
Posted by: maddogg at March 19, 2013 08:05 AM (OlN4e)
Nonsense. How about wire cutters and other miscellaneous tools? Or, as the authorities like to say, "bomb-making implements"?
Pipe cleaners, cigarette lighters, aluminum foil, carat scale 'drug paraphernalia'.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 19, 2013 08:06 AM (0IhFx)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2013 08:06 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 19, 2013 08:07 AM (B/VB5)
Yeah, I saw that. They substituted highly skilled hand labor for precision equipment. Parts would be of dubious quality, as the heat treat was hit or miss. If they weren't working for 10 cents an hour, they would be incredibly expensive. How many here can hand file an AK-47 from a block of hot rolled steel, case harden it and make a shooter? Not many, I'll wager. Takes a lifetime of working with hand tools to gain that level of skill, and even then the parts would not interchange.
I wouldn't touch one. It's nice that people that want to protect themselves have access to weapons...but if it came to it, I'd prefer a quicky zip gun, or pipe shotgun.
The carbon soaking they did was very....inaccurate. Wrap metal parts, and lumps of charcoal in several layers of wet clay, and toss into a fire for a day. As the clay dried, and cracked in the fire, I don't see how you could prevent oxygen from getting inside, and screwing things up.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 19, 2013 08:10 AM (0IhFx)
Of course. All governments have wanted to do this, it's just a matter of who was going to go first.
Which begs the question: what do we do when it happens here? Because, frankly, as dumbed-down, wealth-envious and politically torpid as the 47% are, I can't see any resistance happening once Barky makes a move for the money.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 19, 2013 08:10 AM (zF6Iw)
Why would you want to do this again?
Posted by: Fritz at March 19, 2013 08:12 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 19, 2013 08:12 AM (xN73L)
OT: What's the over/under on whiny Bill Maher relocating to Colorado in order to escape high taxes in California.....that he supported until about a day ago?
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 19, 2013 08:12 AM (0IhFx)
I saw this on an episode of MASH.
Posted by: EC at March 19, 2013 08:15 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 19, 2013 08:16 AM (RTZ9e)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 19, 2013 08:16 AM (RTZ9e)
Posted by: Norcross at March 19, 2013 08:18 AM (MbUq6)
Posted by: Jackj at March 19, 2013 08:19 AM (4WesI)
Posted by: Ghostly Aspiration at March 19, 2013 08:21 AM (PP8La)
Any government which resorts to outright theft of its people's wealth is no longer a legitimate government.
Which is why I want to see Cypriot bankers and politicians swinging from lampposts. Since the nutless GOP won't even consider Insty's suggestion to immediately file a bill making this sort of confiscation illegal and shove it down the Democrats' throats, then the only check to Washington's thievery is to make them fear violence.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 19, 2013 08:22 AM (zF6Iw)
He gets so ronery.
Posted by: eleven at March 19, 2013 08:22 AM (KXm42)
The ol'chestnut "what is an assault weapon?"
If we define it as "anything that has been used or is designed for use in military assaults," we get all kinds of fun answers.
A wide array of bows and a wider array of arrows, including flaming.
Muskets, including match, flint, and percussion ignitions; rifled and smoothbore versions.
Any rifle that uses a Mauser-type bolt action, which is basically "all of them."
Any rifle that uses a lever action.
Any revolver that is similar to the many Colt designs
Any handgun that uses the Browning 1911 basic design. Or a Luger-type action.
Rocks
Pikes
Spears of any kind, including pointed-sticks (insert John Cleese joke here)
Fire in about 30 different forms
Any kind of throwing device - catapult, trebuchet, ballista, etc. Would the fetid carcass that these sometimes threw be considered an "Assault Weapon?"
A slingshot and/or sling.
A boomerang
I'm tired of this list. But there's no denying that all of these things most certainly HAVE been used to assault enemy formations and/or fortifications over the millenia.
There really is no limit to how ignorant liberals are...
Posted by: RobM1981 at March 19, 2013 08:29 AM (FgxCS)
You put your nasty finger in a bullet hole to get 'a pulse' ? What kind of insanely stupid medical advice is that? Thats not where you check for a pulse you fucking idiot.. WTF!?
How democrats are seen as the smart ones i'll never understand. We need to use some more shame and humiliation in our politics
Posted by: We are doomed. at March 19, 2013 08:31 AM (4pEBT)
You need an FFL type 6 for selling any reloads or manufacturing ammunition. The FFL requires you to have stated business hours and allow access to your "business" to the BATF. Form is here http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-5310-12.pdf
Watch out for any local land zoning and business licensing issues that can complicate getting the FFL. Worst of all, you have to register with the State Department http://www.pmddtc.state.gov/registration/index.html and pay an annual fee of $2250 per year for the privilege of existing. No apparent exemptions noted except for making shotgun shells for resale: http://www.pmddtc.state.gov/registration/lr.html
This is part of that wonderful ITAR to implement treaties that U.S. has signed regarding the arms trade.
Posted by: wg at March 19, 2013 08:32 AM (Hk7wz)
Posted by: Katfish at March 19, 2013 08:55 AM (Nx5wc)
Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2013 09:16 AM (zoehZ)
But they won't give up...there will still be a 'Democrat gun bill'.
Which means they will try to take the other route -- new regulations.
This is what the Dems do when they can't 'ban' something...they regulate it to death.
So this isn't over yet.
Posted by: wheatie at March 19, 2013 10:01 AM (rwujx)
Now this sow will return to CaliFuckusornia to free the state from the curse of GUNVIOLENCE! She's gonna double down on those baaaaad gun owners in the gelded state. Hate is baaad, unless you hate guns'n'owners'n'shit, in that case, hate is kewl!!!!
And save us all, chocolate jeezus!
Posted by: OKTHANKYOUGOODBYEYESIAMSHOUTING at March 19, 2013 12:28 PM (he33V)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 19, 2013 11:28 AM (lr3d7)
Terry Maketa has a good grip on things. Whenever I see a county cruiser running traffic I pull over and shoot the shit with them. The deputies are good people. It's solid here.
My family has been in CO since the 40's. Ranchers and miscreants, the whole lot of them. But we put down roots here and here I'll stand.
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2013 07:23 PM (x3YFz)
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