1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

2 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

3 We will lose the messaging on this.

The only way to save this is to pass individual bills dealing with immigration.  The House needs to pass a border security bill.  Then it needs to pass a strong bill with new protections against visa overstay, including biometric identification.

Then, tell the Senate and Obama if they pass those bills and act on them, they (the GOP House) will consider talking about limited amnesty - perhaps for DREAM kids, etc - and work visas.

4 How can we forget; you remind us everyday how much Republicans suck. We get it.

5 The death of the GOP in CA is a suicide, not murder.  The state leadership has been actively working to destroy the base's power and support since 1996 at least.

6 When are the Republicans going to catch on to this trick? They used a sick kid to push for ObamaCare, they used Cindy Sheehan to protest the war, etc.There will always be a perfect victim. Either find your own victim (a legal immigrant following the rules) or craft a good rebuttal.

7 I'm still going long on Horchata Futures.

8 Personally, I don't believe Hispanics as a group are stupid. I think they vote overwhelmingly for Democrats and big government because... Free Shit.

9 It must be wonderful to be a Democrat: all you need to do is remember your talking points and remember that you and the others are motivated by goodness and kindness and other kinds of wonderful "ness".
I guess you just need to make sure you know the right people before you start grabbing women's backsides.

10 Amnesty is the third rail. Touch it and die as far as I'm concerned.

11 The only politics I ever talk with Hispanics involve how this country was stolen from them with the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and the conversation quickly turns racial. 

As for big government, they just feel like they are bleeding the beast. We are giving the stuff away, it would be stupid to not take it.

12 Amnesty?

Fuck that shit.

13 Amnesty is a desperation move by the GOP to survive. Won't work.

14 -ness's and -isms and -tives

15

The bedrock principle of this nation is that we adhere to the rule of law, not the whim of Man. 

 

Going up to a Congressman and asking him about your deported parents smacks to me of a peasant going up to a Bishop and asking about a Papal indulgence.  Such things sicken me.  It sickened me when a parent was asking Chris Christie to sign the Marijuana bill to save his kid, it sickened me when the parents of that kid petitioned to get her onto the adult list for a lung, and it sickens me here. 

 

Drew, you have a very perceptive point - the pop culture and LIVs are very concerned about the kids of illegal immigrants, but nary a thought is expressed over the kids of the legal citizens victimized by illegals.  A fellow who was in construction his entire life forced onto the public dole by illegals?  A teenager who can't get an entry level job because an illegal is doing it?  Broken eggs.

16 They will sell us out on amnesty.  The hand-writing is already on Boner's ass.  And the Republican Party will then be dead.

17 America does not have what it takes to stop and reverse a slow invasion. It is way too late.

18 >>We should remember the kids of parents who have had their identity stolen by illegal immigrants or brokers who cater to illegals.

About 1 month ago the local news ran a story about a 13 year old girl who discovered that her identity had been stolen and used by at least 4 people on job and entitlement applications. Yeah, she had a latino surname.They interviewed her mother, one of the employers who had unknowingly hired one of the identity thieves, and some state official.
Strangely, they never got around to discussing who might have used her identity and why. Nope, they just discussed what checks were in place to catch this sort of thing and why the system didn't work. Amazing amount of denial.

19

My daddy  wrote a number of bad checks   Mr. Senator.   How can you help my daddy from being sent to jail?  

 

 

 

20

It's serendipitous that I just caught this Dennis Miller tweet over at Twitchy, since it     applies to everything going on in this country right now.

 

Off to hike in the deep woods. Maybe I'll find our country back there with a broken leg and discover why we haven't heard from it in a while—

Dennis Miller Show (@DennisDMZ) August 14, 2013

 

 

Amen.

21 I had to drop this one on someone referencing Fatman (D-NJ) yesterday. Works well for occasions like these. https://twitter.com/akula_51/status/369289899578380289/photo/1

22 There is no such thing as an "average" Hispanic. 

The difference in attitude towards government and institutions varies wildly by region.

ex. Mexicans may trust govt a LOT more than Guatemalans or Salvadorans.

The distrust is so high here in south FL, many in the central American enclaves literally walk around with their life savings, many many thousands of dollars, in their pocket because they don't trust banks.  When robbed, they don't report to the police either, because they don't trust the police to not rob them again.

Various "outreach" programs to try and get them to trust US institutions and put their money in banks and call the police have largely been ineffective.

23 I'm still going long on Horchata Futures. I'm in favor of Horchata. I think that "hey, we separate legal resident criminals from their children, too: what did you think jail is?" is a good start. We got away from "illegal" for some reason- and it's important to get back to using it. I know La Raza and others started saying "illegal alien is raaaaacist!" but we really need to ignore them and continue using the correct legal term- illegal alien.

24 I think President Obama should give priority statatus to Gay and Lesbians of color trying gain access to the US. These people should be protected because it is not their fault they were born like this. Write your Congressman and Senators of color to let them know how you feel. Let's do it people !!!!!!!

25 Oh,  good.  Drew is here to remind me not to waste my time reading until after lunch.

It's a new incentive for me to get my housework done early!

26

I just love it when I see some illegal   who doesn't speak English in a brand new vehicle, while   my truck has been  out of operation for nearly a year and I'm in my sixth year of funemployment.

 

This is an invasion. One that is supported by the Open Borders crowd of  Prog/Coms  in both parties.

27

>>>And the Republican Party will then be dead.

 

It already is. This is the part in CSI where Caruso takes off his sunglasses while declaring the time of death according to post-mortem effects.

28
Considering the rise in the state's Hispanic population basically tracks with the downward spiral of the GOP there, I'm unclear on how amnesty helps the problem.

It just does. Trust us on this.

29 22 Various "outreach" programs to try and get them to trust US institutions and put their money in banks and call the police have largely been ineffective. Yeah. Folks just do everything differently South of Lauderdale. It's a bizarre world down here.

30 But, but, but if we did that, we would be relegated into sharing control over 45%-52% of the voting population rather than having absolute control over 35%-40% of the voting population.

31

I'm also hedging  with a small investment in Bathtub Cheese Futures.

32

I have the ability to see into the future and determine what jokes will kill with the audience in 20 years.   For example.

 

 

Oiga, perdone, mi gato ha matado a su perro. - Pero si es un Doberman - Ya, y mi gato es hidraulico.  

 

 

(stolen from comedian whose name I cannot recall)

33 Is their any hope for a party too dumb to let Obama and the D's fully own the Egypt failure? Republicans did not even raise questions on how Obama FAILED to stop the Boston Marathon terrorist bombing.

34

The Left will use their kids to further any cause won't that.

Sadness.

And Emotivism in a nut shell.

Put this under things I never thought I'd say, but DrewM does a pretty good job of undercutting every assumption in that stunt.

Sadly it won't be heard above the cries of "Justice for Latino Girl!"

35 One more thing.. concentrating on Hispanics is wrong.. we need to change the face of immigration.

There are millions here on visa overstays, and they aren't Hispanics.  They look more like our notion of ME terrorists than Juan Valdez.

We need to start a movement to out these illegals.  They are working illegally in 7-11's, Dunkin Donuts.. everywhere.  Some of them came for a visit and simply never went home.  Some of them came on H-1B visas and simply stayed - waiting for their opportunity to legally re-enter the workforce and take more of our jobs away.

36

>>>Considering the rise in the state's Hispanic population basically tracks with the downward spiral of the GOP there, I'm unclear on how amnesty helps the problem.

 

GOP cannot import white males in sufficient number to stay alive, and white males won't vote for them anymore anyway, so they're trying to shift their base. First, they want numbers.

37 Sadly it won't be heard above the cries of "Justice for Latino Girl!" Posted by: tsrblke at August 19, 2013 11:09 AM (GaqMa) Well, if cake girl shows up, they'll forget about her.

38

Oiga, perdone, mi gato ha matado a su perro. - Pero si es un Doberman - Ya, y mi gato es hidraulico.

 

"Listen, my cat has killed your dog.

 

But it's a Doberman

 

Yes, and my cat is hydraulic."

 

?   Did I translate that right?

 

 

39 ? Did I translate that right? Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 19, 2013 11:10 AM (4df7R) LOL

40 a little girl who asked a GOP Congressman about how he could help stop her father from being deported. He can't. High-speed one-way rail is coming!

41

We need to start a movement to out these illegals. They are working illegally in 7-11's, Dunkin Donuts.. everywhere.

 

 

 

Tell me about it.

42 Years ago a local paper did a piece on overstayers in south FL.  There's about 100,000 Canadians here who came for a vacation and never went home.

At the time there were more illegal Canadians than Haitians

43

They will sell us out on amnesty. The hand-writing is already on Boner's ass. And the Republican Party will then be dead.

 

Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2013 11:01 AM (lZvxr)

 

As dead as fucking fried chicken?

 

Oh, and I'm done walking the Earth.

44
Why I would never get elected, my answer to the little girl:

"Wouldn't it be awful if somebody broke into your home and stole and broke your stuff? Some people are breaking into our country and stealing and breaking our stuff.  We would like to stop that."

45 They are working illegally in 7-11's, Dunkin Donuts.. everywhere.

Dunkin has required that all of its franchises use E-Verify since 2006.  They're on the ThinkProgress boycott list for that.

46

This is completely OT, and    is    of little import to anyone, but have any of the rest of you paid attention to this Lady Gaga/Perez Hilton feud on Twitter?   I've   only just discovered it on Twitchy, and it's quite the little drama.  

Lady GaGa, in case you didn't know, is fucking insane.

 

And while I don't care for Perez Hilton, the death threats he and his baby boy are getting are just ridiculous.  

 

Though I    must admit    that a traitorous, horrible little   piece of my soul keeps saying,  "Now you know what it's like to be a conservative, Perez.   Welcome to the club."

47

Years ago a local paper did a piece on overstayers in south FL. There's about 100,000 Canadians here who came for a vacation and never went home.

 

 

Whoa....we will  need a porn starlet cut-out before I can support this.

48

Alright gotta go

 

Take the last train to Clarksville.

I'll be waiting at the station.

We'll have time for coffee flavored kisses

And a bit of conversation.

Oh... Oh, no, no, no!

Oh, no, no, no!

49 We also need to point out that every illegal alien is committing at minimum 2 felonies. 1- Coming (and staying) here illegally. 2- Identity fraud (whether they're working or receiving welfare benefits, if they're here illegally they're doing so under false pretenses- and probably with a fake or stolen SSN) There is no such thing as a "non-criminal undocumented worker."

50 I know La Raza and others started saying "illegal alien is raaaaacist!" No. Illegal alien is illegal.

51 Though I must admit that a traitorous, horrible little piece of my soul keeps saying, "Now you know what it's like to be a conservative, Perez. Welcome to the club." Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 19, 2013 11:14 AM (4df7R) I look at that as two cockroaches fighting. I'll wait till one is victorious then stomp the other one.

52 Dunkin has required that all of its franchises use E-Verify since 2006. They're on the ThinkProgress boycott list for that.
Posted by: HeatherRadish
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Note to Self : Stop in at DD today.

53 No. Illegal alien is illegal. Wouldn't it be nice if our representatives would point this out?

54 Dunkin has required that all of its franchises use E-Verify since 2006. They're on the ThinkProgress boycott list for that.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 19, 2013 11:14 AM (/kI1Q)

I need to pick up some donuts on the way home...

55 Townhall Tactic 2013: Why do you want to deport my daddy? (points across room) Can that little girl's unemployed daddy go to Mexico and get a job to feed her? No, because it's illegal for him. He's stuck here.

56 All good points but you will never ever win against the 'emotional' argument. The Left has conservatism painted into a corner.

57

Seems to me, if they're going to send little girls to townhall meetings to ask about deporting their daddies, this is a perfect opportunity for us to identify which daddies need deporting. 

 

That's how I see it, but I'm generally a lemons into lemonade kinda guy, so...

58 Mmmm... Duncan Donuts- the only franchise donut that's worth anything.

59 There's about 100,000 Canadians here who came for a vacation and never went home. Buying the flannel shirts that Americans won't.

60         One more time

  Amnesty is a JOKE.

    Secure the border FIRST.

    Enforce EXISTING immigration law.

    Not rocket science, assholes.

61

No, because it's illegal for him. He's stuck here.

 

 

I don't care.  Deport his ass.

62 Buying the flannel shirts that Americans won't.

Posted by: t-bird at August 19, 2013 11:18 AM (FcR7P)

 

And in Florida, too.    That's hardcore.

63 Reform immigration ? Thats the nuclear option for changing the US forever. And there will be many leave the Reservation, when that POTUS decree is flown.

64 Seems to me, if they're going to send little girls to townhall meetings to ask about deporting their daddies, this is a perfect opportunity for us to identify which daddies need deporting. That's how I see it, but I'm generally a lemons into lemonade kinda guy, so... Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2013 11:17 AM (TOk1P) Maybe I'll take my daughter and she can ask, "Why are all of these spanish speaking people building houses around ours and my daddy can't find a job?

65

Related: Townhall Tactic 2013: Why do you want to deport my daddy?

 

"Maybe  because your daddy is a lawbreaking cocksucker who's hiding behind you because he's only sorry he got caught?"

 

- - former state  senator Poppins

66 Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2013 11:18 AM (6UErM) Note the "points across room" (it took me a minute to follow, too). The idea is to point at some *other* little girl and point out that her (citizen) father can't just skip the border into Mexico and get a job, so why should the first little girl's dad get a pass?

67 GOP cannot import white males in sufficient number to stay alive, and white males won't vote for them anymore anyway, Don't import. Support. Don't fuck us every chance you get.

68

My answer to said little girl?

 

Talk to her like you are a parent...

 

"Wow.. you are brave for asking that question... but tell me... is it important that you follow the rules?  Is it important that we follow Laws?  If you don't do what your parents tell you, and follow the rules... are you punished?

 

You are asking me not to punish someone who broke the law.... who broke the rules....

69 Considering the rise in the state's Hispanic population basically tracks with the downward spiral of the GOP there, I'm unclear on how amnesty helps the problem.

Doesn't matter, my friendsh. It's bad policy and we're sticking with it!

70

Ah... the "undocumented" students in Raleigh, NC had a protest demanding discounted tuition....because....well, they think they are entitled. My son, a college student there said, "Did anyone call the police and have them deported? Because THAT is what should have happened according to the law."

Meh. But of course not. The students fail to blame their parents for coming here illegally and thus not being "granted" in state rates. If that was how the system worked, my U. Michigan Student would be fucking home free, because tuition there is cheaper than here at in state rates!!!

AllenG...I still love you...I smile whenever I see your words...burn, scatter,salt...

71 >>"Now you know what it's like to be a conservative, Perez. Welcome to the club."

Sorry there's a child dragged into this. Perez was the nasty piece of work responsible for the Miss California Carrie Prejean incident at the Miss USA pageant. He is a vile, ugly person. Is it possible to root for Gaga and Hilton destroying each other with this feud?

72 Where are the children who lost their parents and siblings to drunk illegals on our roadways?

73 Fine. We can play this game too. Then R's need to bring in victims of illegal drunk drivers and rapists to tell their stories.

74 re: the side-bar on the accidental upside of current foreign policy.  In other words the fly trap effect for attracting terrorist thugs that Iraq turned into under Bush is why the current policy might be a success in Egypt.  Okay....  what else will these chumps steal from the Bush years?

75 Years ago a local paper did a piece on overstayers in south FL. There's about 100,000 Canadians here who came for a vacation and never went home.

***

Look out for the Canadians.  They are preparing a stealth attack.

http://tinyurl.com/n7ve3su

76 So while IÂ’m not unsympathetic to this young girlÂ’s fears, sheÂ’s not the only one with skin in the game. Maybe we could occasionally remember the people her dad and people like him are hurting. It might even make people realize we are compassionate too. Yeah. About that. I have not an ounce of compassion for people who will use a child like that. In fact, it ups my not give a shit about what the kid's parents went through to get here to 11,000% of capacity. I stand by my response this morning that the proper response to the adults who put her up to this is FYNQ. No, seriously, it is. This is a when did you stop beating your wife question. This is pathetic, pathetic, emotionally manipulative bullshit. I am beyond sick to death of these bullshit stunt questions. I mean, I can come up with a metric fuckton myself. "Ms. Pelosi, why do you think I'm too stupid to make my own financial decisions?" "Mr. Reid, why won't you let the authorities check the crawl spaces at your house?" "Ms. Wasserman-Schultz, here. This is my stylist's card. The woman's a miracle worker, really, and I know she can help you." You want to know why we can't have grown up discussions about grown up problems? Because one side insists on using actual children to hide behind. Why did I use up all my E tickets for this ride? Why?

77 - - former state senator Poppins


Poppins?  Hey!  That guy owes me money!  Git back heah you deadbeat!

78 Screw Amnesty. I repeat myself time and time again on this issue, because I did it legally. I laid the fees, I filled out the forms, I travelled across the country for my interview with the state department, I went to the overpriced doctor who only took cash for my physical, I waited. Amnesty is a slap in the face to all of those who came here legally. I will never, ever cast a vote for any politician in favour of amnesty for illegal aliens - they are not undocumented citizens, they are criminals - EVER.

79 garrett thinks he's cute nobody pulls the rug out from soothie

80 Though I must admit that a traitorous, horrible little piece of my soul keeps saying, "Now you know what it's like to be a conservative, Perez. Welcome to the club."

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 19, 2013 11:14 AM (4df7R)

 

You should tweet that.

81 Where are the children who lost their parents and siblings to drunk illegals on our roadways?

That would be racist. And bigoted.

82 That's how I see it, but I'm generally a lemons into lemonade kinda guy, so... Posted by: BurtTC
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Congress person : "I see, little girl. And, is your daddy here with you?"
LG: "Yes."
CP: "Ah! Good. Can you point to him?"
LG: " Yes..., he's right there (pointing)."
At this point plain-clothes ICE agents seize the daddy.

83

nobody pulls the rug out from soothie

 

Well, if anyone should have seen that coming...

84

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 19, 2013 11:20 AM (lZBBB)

 

Ask her if she likes it when others cut in line in front of her at lunch?  Or the movies?  Or at Six Flags?

85 You think Clinto would ever say what difference does it make if a family member was sitting there?

86 For every sweet child wanting to stop her parents from being deported there's one of these:
"Vivencia Bellegarde, 25, of Everett was being held on $10,000 bail after police say her drunken driving forced a Boston Globe delivery truck off the road and down a 40-foot embankment.Apparently a real charmer with a driving record that includes 10 suspensions and a previous drunken driving charge..."

She also had 3 EBT cards on her - only one in her name.

87 Why did I use up all my E tickets for this ride? Why?  Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 19, 2013 11:22 AM (VtjlW)


*passes Blondies*

*Runs to Bing see if science has discovered the cure for rage-stroke*

88 Amnesty is a slap in the face to all of those who came here legally. I will never, ever cast a vote for any politician in favour of amnesty for illegal aliens - they are not undocumented citizens, they are criminals - EVER. Posted by: Gingy at August 19, 2013 11:23 AM (aH+zP) +1 I remember the look on my immigration case officer's face when he asked my wife and I if we got married as a sham for a green card. We looked over to the baby stroller where our infant son was sleeping. "Ok, I'll put that one down as a 'no'."

89 Over the weekend saw a couple of articles saying that the president is issuing an executive order on immigration. Maybe they think that's a fait au compli and therefore they've moved along to health care? Also noticed a couple of articles saying he's signing some UN gun treaty while congress is away on vacay.

90 You want to know why we can't have grown up discussions about grown up problems? Because one side insists on using actual children to hide behind. Sounds like Pali's.

91 *Runs to Bing see if science has discovered the cure for rage-stroke* Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 19, 2013 11:25 AM (d4ZzM) *replace contents of a saline IV with Val-U-Rite*

92 Lizzy, I kept asking Ace and Andy to post about that story, but nah Filner is more interesting.

93 Ask her if she likes it when others cut in line in front of her at lunch? Or the movies? Or at Six Flags?

Posted by: CDR M at August 19, 2013 11:24 AM (cqZXM)

 

And ANOTHER horrible little piece of my soul   would feel the need to ask, "Or do you not worry about that    since nobody messes with you, because your daddy's probably MS13?"

 

*facepalm*

 

I hate myself for that.     I hate the lefties more for creating a    racialist atmopshere in this country that would even make me THINK of that.

94

Previous episodes of  the left using kids:

 

Asking why mean Republicans want to take away their school lunch programs. 

 

Asking why we don't care about kids who just want to play midnight basketball.

 

Asking why we want ALAR contaminating their apples.

 

EVERY FREAKIN' SKOOL  SHOOTING EVARRRRRR!

 

The list goes on...

95 The word "illegal" must be used. MUST be. It would help if we stopped using the word "Hispanic" altogether. It would REALLY help if conservatives would stop using "Hispanic" as a synonym for either "illegal alien" or "Mexican." Well, the lunatics are running the asylum. These illegals came here voluntarily, they CHOSE this life. Yet their supposed "suffering" is the problem that needs to be addressed. No. The problem is the ruling class's contempt for law that allowed this invasion in the first place.

96 E-Verify is a joke. All the illegals have to do is give false info and they can skirt through the system, for a while.

The government still has to verify their claims and I recall reading something about how they've been slacking or softening checks on their side of E-Verify.

97 I guess it would be mean to ask Why the girl  thinks her parent  might be deported and leave her and other children behind ?
Because that's what parents do right? leave the tots behind!

great parents worthy of admiration i guess.

98 When are the Republicans going to catch on to this trick? They used a sick kid to push for ObamaCare, they used Cindy Sheehan to protest the war, etc.There will always be a perfect victim. Either find your own victim (a legal immigrant following the rules) or craft a good rebuttal.


Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2013 10:57 AM (el1mU)

-----------

I think that if I were ever crazy enough to run for public office I would give press credentials to a reporter from Pravda and whenever one of these ridiculous situations arose I would re-direct to him: "Ah, excuse me sweetheart, Vasily? can you please explain to this poor child how she's being used by whoever put her up to this- oh, and how would you rate this attempt to paint me as an ogre?  Pretty lame and amateurish, da?"

99 E-Verify is a joke. All the illegals have to do is give false info and they can skirt through the system, for a while. The government still has to verify their claims and I recall reading something about how they've been slacking or softening checks on their side of E-Verify. Posted by: Gaff at August 19, 2013 11:27 AM (jPS2y) Obviously, the govt doesn't have that classified technology that credit card companies have that alerts them whenever a fraudulent charge comes up.

100 *replace contents of a saline IV with Val-U-Rite*  Posted by: EC at August 19, 2013 11:26 AM (GQ8sn)


Nice

*fist bump*

Our work here is done.

To the Boobehmobile!

101 Where are the children who lost their parents and siblings to drunk illegals on our roadways? That would be racist. And bigoted. Life's a bitch sometimes.

102 Congress person : "I see, little girl. And, is your daddy here with you?"
LG: "Yes."
CP: "Ah! Good. Can you point to him?"
LG: " Yes..., he's right there (pointing)."
At this point plain-clothes ICE agents seize the daddy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 19, 2013 11:24 AM (aDwsi)

 

Add a chorus of middle schoolers singing Hit the Road, Jack, and you've got my vote.

103 Nice *fist bump* Our work here is done. To the Boobehmobile! Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 19, 2013 11:29 AM (d4ZzM) I posted an awesome one last night on the ONT and only got one comment about it. *sad*

104 We are way past 'illegal'. Now you can't even say non-citizen. Everyone is a 'resident' now in Seattle.

105 "So Ms. Democrat, how do you feel about using children as human shields for your agenda?"

106 Obviously, the govt doesn't have that classified technology that credit card companies have that alerts them whenever a fraudulent charge comes up.

Posted by: EC at August 19, 2013 11:29 AM (GQ8sn)

 

Gubmint    doesn't even have    the Google-search level of technology to suggest     "Did you mean Tsarnaev?" when they've    got multiple spellings of     a potential terrorist's    last name.

107 Congress person : "I see, little girl. And, is your daddy here with you?"LG: "Yes."CP: "Ah! Good. Can you point to him?"LG: " Yes..., he's right there (pointing)."At this point plain-clothes ICE agents seize the daddy. Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 19, 2013 11:24 AM (aDwsi) If only. ICE won't do shit.

108 Related: Townhall Tactic 2013: Why do you want to deport my daddy? --- Ben Howe fell for that one hook, line, and sinker yesterday. He's really quite a scold -- invariably directed at conservatives.

109 Well if ICE employed this person, don't think Pedro would complain too much.  NOW would.  So would Allred and the Spew Crew...
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/selection-du-weekend-49-34.jpg

110 Look out for the Canadians. They are preparing a stealth attack.

And funding it by being cheap/no tippers.

111 An honest answer would be" "There is nothing stopping your daddy from taking you with him back to Mexico. If he wants to be apart from you, that's his problem, not mine."

112 Daily reminder: The establishment media in this country is pretty much openly Marxist at this point.

113 Obviously, the govt doesn't have that classified technology that credit card companies have that alerts them whenever a fraudulent charge comes up.

 

 

Posted by: EC at August 19, 2013 11:29 AM (GQ8sn)

 

Yep.... just like Obama's campaign contribution mechanism.... that the press was totally silent about... TWICE...

 

Federal Election Commission?    /crickets...

114 Gubmint doesn't even have the Google-search level of technology to suggest "Did you mean Tsarnaev?" when they've got multiple spellings of a potential terrorist's last name. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 19, 2013 11:31 AM (4df7R) It's like someone hardwired some coding in their search parameters that says "-everything except for muslims/islam".

115 "Lady GaGa, in case you didn't know, is fucking insane." Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 19, 2013 11:14 AM


Which is why I find this parody so hysterical/disturbing.  I hesitate to do this to you on a Monday, but if your sense of humor is anywhere near as warped as mine is, I'm sure you'll have fun with this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2IIwYKposw

116 For every sweet child wanting to stop her parents from being deported there's one of these:

Almost all deportations of illegals are the result of criminal behavior.  YOu get the occasional deportation as a result of a workplace enforcement raid, but for the most part it's because they were arrested.

Nobody (the MSM in particular) bothers asking the little girl what her father did to get himself deported.

As it stands now, illegals face almost no chance of deportation if they keep their heads down and don't get caught driving drunk, committing sex crimes, etc.

117 Ted Cruz released his birth certificate and the Canadians are claiming he's a citizen. "Paging Mr. Cruz, paging Mr. Ted Cruz, please pick up your Canadian citizenship at the courtesy desk on the mezzanine."

118 >>Lizzy, I kept asking Ace and Andy to post about that story, but nah Filner is more interesting.

Yeah, Ms. Bellegarde is a perfect example - illegal immigrant from Haiti, flouting so many laws (and yes, she has a child), and then she has the nerve to tell the police officer arresting her that he's stupid because he pays for his own food. Sadly, she has point - those of us still following the rules are being played, big time.

119 78---Amnesty is a slap in the face to all of those who came here legally. I will never, ever cast a vote for any politician in favour of amnesty for illegal aliens - Posted by: Gingy at August 19, 2013 11:23 AM (aH+zP) ----------------------- From one first-generation LEGAL immigrant to another, AMEN.

120 congressman could have said. through no fault of ours your parent decided to break law, not go through immigration channels available , work illegally , Have children , and than send YOU to us to tell us He is afraid he will be deported because He broke the law and might leave YOU behind. because? nothing like scaring children  that You are responsible for as a parent.

right?

121

"Tell me, little girl, who asked you to ask me that question?     Because whoever it was, i want to make sure that they know how shameful and cowardly they are for using a little girl to fight their battles.   And if it was your daddy, he    should be doubly shamed.

 

Next question."

122 75 Years ago a local paper did a piece on overstayers in south FL. There's about 100,000 Canadians here who came for a vacation and never went home. *** Look out for the Canadians. They are preparing a stealth attack. http://tinyurl.com/n7ve3su Posted by: WalrusRex at August 19, 2013 11:22 AM (XUKZU) -- Oh, please. I came here as part of a grand scheme to subvert your economy. I never hid my identity, there was no stealth involved. If you want something done right, you ask a Canadian. Politely.

123 Her father has nothing to worry about.  Obama will never enforce the law.

124 Look out for the Canadians. They are preparing a stealth attack. http://tinyurl.com/n7ve3su Posted by: WalrusRex at August 19, 2013 11:22 AM (XUKZU) Codename: Loki. Awwww fuck yeah!!!!!

125 The establishment media in this country is pretty much openly Marxist at this point.

Wonder how those tools will react to being just another slub at the back of the soup line?

126 Inspired by sidebar story:  I don't usually favor movie remakes but one is crying out to be updated, Doctor Zhizago does Obamacare.

 Unknown: The doctor's a gentleman.

The Bolshevik: Right! It's written all over him.

Unknown: He's a good man.

The Bolshevik: God rot good men.

[Lara silently stares in loathing at the Bolshevik]

127

102 -

 

Hey kids!  Congressman Poppins wants to treat your parents to a FREE TRIP to Washington!!  All you have to do is give him their name,  let him know where to send the ticket.  He really REALLY wants to hear how hard it is for them to be in this country illegally.

 

The return trip?  Oh, don't worry about that.  Congressman Poppins is gonna make sure they  go  home  afterwards.  Oh yes he will. 

128 If you want something done right, you ask a Canadian. Politely. Posted by: Gingy at August 19, 2013 11:34 AM (aH+zP) Did you bring Poutine with you?

129 Walter Russell Mead:

President Obama has had a rude awakening in the Middle East. The region he thought existed was an illusion built on American progressive assumptions about the way the world works. In the dream Middle East, democracy at least of a sort was just around the corner. Moderate Islamists would engage with the democratic process, and the experience would lead them to ever more moderate behavior. If America got itself on the “right side of history,” and supported this hopeful development, both America’s values and its interests would be served. Our relationships with the peoples of the Middle East would improve as they saw Washington supporting the emergence of democracy in the region, and Al Qaeda and the other violent groups would lose influence as moderate Islamist parties guided their countries to prosperity and democracy.

This vision, sadly, has turned out to be a mirage, and Washington is discovering that fact only after the administration followed the deceptive illusion out into the deep desert. The vultures are circling now as American policy crawls forlornly over the dunes; with both the New York Times and the Washington Post running “what went wrong” obituaries for the President’s efforts in Egypt, not even the MSM can avoid the harsh truth that President Obama’s Middle East policies have collapsed into an ugly and incoherent mess.

... this belies the irrational symbiosis between Muslims and Progressives in the US

130 Thank you, Bannion. *noms sadly* I hate myself for that. I hate the lefties more for creating a racialist atmopshere in this country that would even make me THINK of that. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 19, 2013 11:26 AM (4df7R) I agree. Hubris being what it is, I used to take some smug pride that I worked very hard not to be racist. Now? Now I assume all kinds of horrible things about people and I feel like not only am I back to square one but I'm actually negative 57 squares. I don't like this. I am trying to change that. But it seems like every time I make any progress something happens to make it even harder to battle those presumptions.

131 How about asking that sweet child of illegals what she would say to a little girl her age who has parents/family following the rules who have been waiting years to become citizens.
Also, it wouldn't hurt to remind her that citizenship is a privilege, not a gift. There's a reason people want to come to the US, and it has to do with how citizens are (well, used to be) treated equally before the law. That includes her parents.

132 @46 - That's the left's go-to position on ANYONE they don't like or are unhappy with at the moment:  DIE, MF'er!!!!!!!!!!  DIE HORRIBLY.

It's all they got.

133 can i say something rude here about the congressman?

Lets' see they are openly advocating For amnesty for the last several mths. Yet not prepared to answer a question asked about amnesty?

flop.

134

She also had 3 EBT cards on her - only one in her name.

 

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2013 11:25 AM (el1mU)

 

And laughed at the arresting cop, calling him a chump for actually paying cash for food.

 

Tar.  Feathers.  Rope.

135 Why yes little girl I think that it is very important to keep your daddy here in the USA  where he can continue to depress wages, and absorb social services while keeping our corporate labor costs down. 

Would you like a job?

136 128 If you want something done right, you ask a Canadian. Politely. Posted by: Gingy at August 19, 2013 11:34 AM (aH+zP) Did you bring Poutine with you? Posted by: caustic at August 19, 2013 11:35 AM (/b8+5) --- Hell no. I'm from Alberta - want a steak? How about some oil? A conservative government?

137 Years ago a local paper did a piece on overstayers in south FL. There's about 100,000 Canadians here who came for a vacation and never went home. _____________ And how many of them go to the ER when they have a cold? How many of them send their kids to schools (none since they're all retirees most likely)? How many of them steal identities from Americans? If it's more than 50 out of 100,0000 I'd be shocked

138 But it seems like every time I make any progress something happens to make it even harder to battle those presumptions. You know? I've stopped trying. If someone wants me to see "the content of their character," they'll need to show me their character. The first step in doing that? Consider how you present yourself in public- from how you dress, to how you walk, to how you speak. Until then, I'll judge you based on your looks- and, yes, that includes the color of your skin. No. I'm not sorry.

139 not even the MSM can avoid the harsh truth that President ObamaÂ’s Middle East policies have collapsed into an ugly and incoherent mess

Just keeping pace with his domestic policies.

140 Hell no. I'm from Alberta - want a steak? How about some oil? A conservative government? Posted by: Gingy at August 19, 2013 11:38 AM (aH+zP) Maybe we can make America the 14th Canadian province.

141 A better stealth snowmobile: http://tinyurl.com/lm9yzbm No batteries.

142 For a GOP town hall: how about a little AA kid saying, "Why are you giving my Daddy's job to someone who snuck into our country"?

143 Hell no. I'm from Alberta - want a steak? How about some oil? A conservative government? Posted by: Gingy at August 19, 2013 11:38 AM (aH+zP) _____________ Can I have all that without -25 temps in Jan?

144 Hell no. I'm from Alberta - want a steak? How about some oil? A conservative government? Posted by: Gingy at August 19, 2013 11:38 AM (aH+zP) *raises hands* Timbits and poutine please.

145 nevermind, I can't do politics today.

burnt.out.


later.

146 and yet the Republicans won't stand back and let Obama his failures

147 Organizing for America is planting these kids in town halls all across the country We don't know if their stories are even true. Congressman should get their names and addresses for "constituent service", ask who brought them to the townhall, what group got them together Expose the lie, reject the premise.

148 For a GOP town hall: how about a little AA kid saying, "Why are you giving my Daddy's job to someone who snuck into our country"? Posted by: PJ at August 19, 2013 11:39 AM (ZWaLo) Because shut the fuck up

149

133 -

 

Prepared answer?  I thought I had one. 

150 And how many of them go to the ER when they have a cold? How many of them send their kids to schools (none since they're all retirees most likely)? How many of them steal identities from Americans? Doesn't matter. If they're here illegally, they need to be deported. Are they less of a problem than the illegals from 3rd World dung-heaps? Most of them. Are they still guilty of breaking the law? Yes.

151 Maybe we can make America the 14th Canadian province. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 19, 2013 11:39 AM (XIxXP) When did Canada get 13 provinces?

152 I'm bored

153 Thunderb, Voter ID at Town Halls...

154 141 A better stealth snowmobile: http://tinyurl.com/lm9yzbm No batteries. Posted by: EC at August 19, 2013 11:39 AM (GQ8sn) --- EC, exactly what my Iqalummiut friends have been saying. Plus, you can feed them the muqtuq and they won't complain. And if you're stuck on the land, you can eat 'em.

155 Steak? Check Oil? Check Conservative government? Check Not 25 below in January? Check Texas

156

You know what I hope?

 

I hope that Obama    will be    giving a    live    press conference at some   point in the near future,    and at this press conference I would like one of the MFM hacks in the   audience to lob him a planted question.     Something along the lines of,  "Mr.    President, there has been talk    lately   that your extensive use of Executive Orders to circumvent    Congress is counter to   the duties required of the President by the Constitution.     That, essentially, what you're doing is illegal.   How would you answer those allegations, Mr. President?"

 

And I hope that Obammy,   illiterate as he is in matters of history, and overflowing as he does with pomposity and hubris, will     abandon the teleprompter and answer off the cuff:      "Well first off,    (reporter's name), when the President does it, it's not illegal."

 

Because you   know he thinks it.   And you know he's too stupid to realize what he'd said.

157 "Miss, I admire your courage in asking that question. The United States is a country that is governed by a system of laws.  When people break those laws, they must face the consequences.  Every day, little girls like you are mistreated by parents who break laws, and then leave their children to suffer more of the consequences.

In some cases, other people's kids suffer because someone broke laws.  Like when <illegal immigrant drunk driver killed story>

This has nothing to do with which law was broken.  If your Daddy broke the law, he has to face the consequences, or else the laws mean nothing."

158

We're going Full French by declaring DREAMers second-class residents - http://bit.ly/14PC4hK

 

Of course, we expect to negotiate that to full citizenship with our betters in the Rat half of the bipartisan Party In Government.

159 Maybe we can make America the 14th Canadian province.

Canada only has 10 provinces. NWT, Yukon and Nunavut are "territories".

160 Facing an intense bid for reelection, Sen. Mark Pryor (D-Ark.) appears to be distancing himself from President Barack Obama. In an interview with Politico published on Monday, Pryor cleared the air about where he stands in comparison to the commander-in-chief, noting that Obama “doesn’t connect well” with Arkansas. “I think that President Obama has in some ways what you would think of as a hard-left agenda in various ways, and that agenda is not popular in our state,” Pryor said. “And a lot of that agenda I don’t support.” Yeah Fuckhead? I bet you've voted with obama right down the line

161 Consider how you present yourself in public- from how you dress, to how you walk, to how you speak. Until then, I'll judge you based on your looks- and, yes, that includes the color of your skin. No. I'm not sorry. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 19, 2013 -- How is someone's skin color relevant to how they present themselves? It's not within their control. I really feel sorry for you if you have allowed yourself to get to this point of pre-judging based on a genetic trait rather than on a behavior. Most people have some tendency to certain prejudices. Most people of good character fight those tendencies.

162

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 19, 2013 11:36 AM (VtjlW)

 

the corner for me was that I realized I am not a Racist.... but I AM a Culturalist.

 

Its not about the color of your Skin... its about how you ACT.  Its how you self portray yourself.

 

Its not that you are Hispanic... its that you won't learn English, and fly your damn Mexican Flag...

 

Its not that your black... its because you want to be separate, yet have everything that comes with inclusion.

 

Its not that you are Gay... but that you act like a flaming Homo... and constantly shove it in my face.

 

I hate ALL Gangbangers... black, white, and brown....

 

And on Amnesty?  I don't care if you are from Europe, or Mexico... if you are here illegally you need to go.

163 You know? I've stopped trying. If someone wants me to see "the content of their character," they'll need to show me their character. The first step in doing that? Consider how you present yourself in public- from how you dress, to how you walk, to how you speak.

Until then, I'll judge you based on your looks- and, yes, that includes the color of your skin.

No. I'm not sorry.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 19, 2013 11:38 AM (/PCJa)

+1

164 How many of them steal identities from Americans? If it's more than 50 out of 100,0000 I'd be shocked

So?  They're taking jobs Americans could be doing.  I know several of them -- all employed locally -- not sweltering in some field.

165 Saw this in one of our local lib blogs this morning (first story) - http://tinyurl.com/jwe29vt

Of course it's always presented as a sad tale about our messed up immigration system and not a single mention that the illegals are the ones messing it up and never, ever a story that paints the illegals in a bad light, just pure propaganda.

166 Steak? Check Oil? Check Conservative government? Check Not 25 below in January? Check Texas Posted by: Thunderb at August 19, 2013 11:42 AM (zOTsN) Alberta: north north Texas.

167 Expose the lie, reject the premise. Posted by: Thunderb at August 19, 2013 11:40 AM (zOTsN) The sick part is OFA thinks this is clever. The sicker part is that OFA is right. Insty refers to this as child abuse and I think that's right. For the record, I don't like it one bit when pro-life people parade kids around with Mommy Chose Life! signs. That's a child, not your political prop. If you want to bring a kid along, fine. But stop it with making the kid a billboard. If it's wrong to do, it's wrong to do, doesn't matter whose side it's on. Of course, if these are the rules, I'm down with making some giant papier mache puppet heads, planting kids with signs and sending out limping one eyed dogs with why won't you pay for my health care placards on them. Play to win, baby.

168 Texas

Posted by: Thunderb at August 19, 2013 11:42 AM (zOTsN)

 

 

They like Horse Steak.  Can't get that in Texas.

169 Alan West, Thomas Sowell? Come on people, be better

170
How is someone's skin color relevant to how they present themselves? It's not within their control.

I really feel sorry for you if you have allowed yourself to get to this point of pre-judging based on a genetic trait rather than on a behavior.

Most people have some tendency to certain prejudices. Most people of good character fight those tendencies.

Posted by: Y-not at August 19, 2013 11:44 AM (5H6zj)

He never said that was the only factor, just a contributing factor.  And that's reality.  I see nothing wrong with acknowledging that reality.

171 I think this qualifies as a LOL for the day.

Zuckerberg's FB page hacked.
http://tinyurl.com/n38ha38

172 In the "burning times", the Make Believe Media and it's minions should be among the first to be strung up on lampposts.......

173 If only.

ICE won't do shit.

You're right, but no matter how much an individual ICE agent might want to deport them, they know there's no point in even trying when the policy from DC is to cut them loose.

The stories I'm hearing from my ICE buddies are horrible- illegals who are supposed to be detained- including felons- are being cut loose pending their court date that they won't show up for.

On the rare occasion that the MSM asks for info about an individual, privacy rules prevent them from sharing info- even that which is publicly available.

174 New York University President John Sexton has decided to resign, following weeks of criticism over the lavish perks he received — including a vacation home financed with university loans.

He is set to leave NYU in 2016 — after collecting a $2.5 million bonus.

Sexton makes $1.5 million a year, and is one of the highest paid college presidents in the country. He also took advantage of a university loan program that helps top faculty and administrators afford luxurious vacation homes on New YorkÂ’s Fire Island and the Hamptons.

175 H20house, how do you know that; are you a secret canuck?

176 Bear in mind that all of these Dream kids go to the head of the line for college admissions and jobs. Because raaaaacist. The GOP could win a lot of Reagan Democrats by opposing all of this. But no.

177 168 TexasPosted by: Thunderb at August 19, 2013 11:42 AM (zOTsN) They like Horse Steak. Can't get that in Texas. Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2013 11:46 AM (EgQjl) --- Who does? I believe that's primarily a Québécois thing. I've never seen or heard of people eating horse in Alberta. We ride them. And oh boy, cowboys (drool). Can't tell I'm from Southern Alberta, nope, not one bit.

178 Hiding behind Children a tactic out of the Mooslim Freedom Fighters Handbook Page 11.

179
    I have to wonder why screaming about securing the border and enforcing existing law gets basically ignored--both here and nationally.

     All I see is bitching about what the left is doing with examples of children affected and the like.

     Employing what I suggest may not be the end-all, but it WILL undoubtedly be effective.

    Do these suggestions not make sense to you people?

    Am I not seeing something here?

180 I approve the use of children as human shields for leftist causes and beliefs.

181

67 GOP cannot import white males in sufficient number to stay alive

 

If we import more Raelians, they could clone us up some.

 

182 If you see a restaurant with a horse head near the door, its not for decor.

183 When did Canada get 13 provinces?

Posted by: EC at August 19, 2013 11:42 AM (GQ8sn)

 

They have 10 provinces (the last entering in 1949 when the Brits finally gave up control of Newfoundland) and 3 territories (the third, Nunavut, carved out of the Northwest Territories in 1999 in an early display of political correctness).

184 They like Horse Steak. Can't get that in Texas. If they are your own horses, you can.

185 Maybe we can make America the 14th Canadian province. Canada only has 10 provinces. NWT, Yukon and Nunavut are "territories". Posted by: Waterhouse at August 19, 2013 11:43 AM (uYaYO) Not according to the Cartologists I have consulted. 1. Alberta 2. British Columbia 3. Manitoba 4. New Brunswick 5. Newfoundland & Labrador 6. Northwest Territories 7. Nova Scotia 8. Nunavut 9. Ontario 10. Prince Edward Island 11. Quebec 12. Saskatchewan 13. Yukon

186 Well, little girl, we want to deport your daddy 'cause he's a goddam illegal alien. He belongs back in his third world shit hole, not up here knocking out anchor babies and sucking up resources. Understand? Mebbe he can take you with him?

187 Who does? I believe that's primarily a Québécois thing. I've never seen or heard of people eating horse in Alberta. We ride them. And oh boy, cowboys (drool). Can't tell I'm from Southern Alberta, nope, not one bit. Posted by: Gingy at August 19, 2013 11:48 AM (aH+zP) And don't forget... Calgary Stampede girls!

188 He never said that was the only factor, just a contributing factor. And that's reality. I see nothing wrong with acknowledging that reality. ---- I can't disagree more strongly. Being such law and order types, I'm sure none of you racial profilers are applying this to your work life. Because that would be against the law and you wouldn't do that.

189 Steak? Check Oil? Check Conservative government? Check Not 25 below in January? Check Texas And we don't talk funny. Ceral y'all.

190 When Reid brings up the bill for a vote, they should rename it the Cloward-Piven Immigration Act of 2013.

191 Maybe we can make America the 14th Canadian province. Canada only has 10 provinces. NWT, Yukon and Nunavut are "territories". Posted by: Waterhouse at August 19, 2013 11:43 AM (uYaYO) Not according to the Cartologists I have consulted. 1. Alberta 2. British Columbia 3. Manitoba 4. New Brunswick 5. Newfoundland & Labrador 6. Northwest Territories 7. Nova Scotia 8. Nunavut 9. Ontario 10. Prince Edward Island 11. Quebec 12. Saskatchewan 13. Yukon Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 19, 2013 11:50 AM (XIxXP) Three of them aren't provinces. NWT, Yukon, and Nunavut are territories. Like Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands.

192 How is someone's skin color relevant to how they present themselves? It's not within their control. Because we're more comfortable with that with which we're familiar, and statistics are what they are. I'll not hold your skin color against you- but if you're going to dress according to stereotypical norms, I'm going to consider you a stereotypical sample. If the Black Community wanted me to do differently, they'd self-police to explain "that culture" (the drug/thug culture which is highly prevalent) is not "our culture." I don't hold much respect for the white guy with the tattoos on his arms and neck wearing the stained wife-beater, either. Don't blame me for race relations in 2013. I spent my entire life not caring. If people (the MFM largely) would have allowed me to continue not caring, I would have continued. They seem hell-bent on *making* me care, however. If that's the case, then I'll care- but I know enough to know that Blacks are not some virginal "victim" class.

193 Children of ranchers on the border have some stories to tell That five year who was being raped by an illegal 50 year old in a field in Texas, the one who got beat to death by her young father? She has a story to tell The kids who lost parents to drunk drivers who are illegals? Why does la Raza hate children?

194

Posted by: irongrampa at August 19, 2013 11:49 AM (SAMxH)

 

IMO?  Unless we militarize the border (which I'm actually for, but will never happen)... we cannot 'control' the border... its too long...

 

BUT... simply enforcing the identity theft laws... the fraud laws... most of which ARE State laws... and then telling them once caught that, as this IS a State Law, we will not chase you across international borders... here... you have a court date in 90 days...

 

Self Deport for the win....

 

They would not be here if they FEARED our Law..... if they FEARED getting caught.... but they know that we are not enforcing our own laws...

195 OSP, I respectfully disagree. YT, NT, NU are considered territories legally. They are referred to as such in everyday vernacular as well. The benefits and transfer payments, as well as some aspects of government, are handled differently than those of the provinces.

196 I vacationed once at Nunavut. Too many Catholics.

197 Maybe we can make America the 14th Canadian province. Canada only has 10 provinces. NWT, Yukon and Nunavut are "territories". Posted by: Waterhouse at August 19, 2013 11:43 AM (uYaYO) OK, I have consulted a Canadian website and indeed my fellow rons are correct, 10 provinces 3 Territories.

198

Off-topic, but there's only so much banging of my head against a brickwall that I can stand in an hour.

 

Electro-shock therapy sees a resurgence, despite controversial past

 

WTSP (Tampa, FL): http://tinyurl.com/mlcu27a

 

Fort Myers, Florida (News-Press) -- The patients are rolled on gurneys into a small screened-off area at Park Royal Hospital every 15 minutes with assembly line regularity.

 

One is a woman in her 60s, who, like the others, gets a momentary jolt of electricity sent through her head, causing a brain seizure and her body to tense for several seconds. The hope: That this treatment - the electroconvulsive, or "electro-shock," therapy - will ease the symptoms of her bipolar disorder that has so far not responded well to drugs.

 

The procedure, one of thousands performed at Park Royal since the 76-bed hospital opened last year, has worked on the woman in the past, says Dr. Ivan Mazzorana, who performs all of them on patients here. And, he said, it's likely to do so again.

 

These days, the treatment goes by its more clinical-sounding acronym, "ECT."

 

"When you bring it up, most people say, 'Oh my God! Not ECT, that's something from the past,'" Mazzorana said. "It's a very simple procedure, safer, and it's a lot quicker than the medication."...

 

 

I can almost guarantee you -- GUARANTEE -- that there will be idiot leftwing     Luddites who, when they   discover such a "resurgence," will begin protesting and calling ECT   "barbaric."    The same idiots who protest against vaccines.

199

152 I'm bored

 

There's a switch. Usually, you're boring ... into some poor innocent skull!

 

200 First it's important to remind people that this isn't about singling out illegal aliens and their families. US citizens break the law and get separated from their kids all the time. There's no reason why we should feel worse for kids of illegal immigrants than we do those kids who are punished for things they didn't do. Bingo. Apparently, anyone who has kids now has the right to break any law they want and be a completely incompetent employee, because if they are arrested or fired, their kids will be hurt by that. It boggles my mind that we have to tip-toe around saying that people need to follow the laws of this country or face the consequences.

201 O/T Looks like Obama is back into hi "I will not rest until..." mode with this busy schedule:

11:00 am || Receives the Presidential Daily Briefing
11:45 am || Meets with senior advisors
2:15 pm || Meets with independent financial regulators

202 White House asks that all wanna-be Leni Reifenstahl's help out Dear Leader extol the virtues of TFGCare. http://tinyurl.com/my8em4y Participants will be encouraged to submit three different types of videos advertising the benefits of the exchanges: a song, an animated short, or a video designed to convince viewers that they arenÂ’t invincible. Using funds from the Affordable Care ActÂ’s education and outreach budget, HHS will award $3,000 each to the creators of the three most popular and persuasive videos, while second and third place winners will get $2,500 each.

203 don't forget about amnesty, way ot: and all the FREE STUFF for "new" illegitimate citizens, but not as if you won't get YOURS: amnesty... amnesia words, just words... memory loss isn't all so bad, now is it? Those uncomfortable memories and life circumstances, Obummercare, you'd rather just forgetaboutit...and that has been arranged. Electroshock "Therapy" endorsements include the American Psychiatric Association, the American Medical Association, and the U.S. Surgeon General." If Pharmaceuticals fail to alleviate your depression (the depression they likely caused/worsened), never fear the electroshock. Of course it has the positive endorsement of your eugenics surgeon general. ...One watt away from laser lobotomy.

204 Why does la Raza hate children?

They only hate white children, so that's OK.

205 Regimes that use children for their propaganda often do terrible things

206 192 How is someone's skin color relevant to how they present themselves? It's not within their control. ---------- Because we're more comfortable with that with which we're familiar, and statistics are what they are. I'll not hold your skin color against you- but if you're going to dress according to stereotypical norms, I'm going to consider you a stereotypical sample. ---------- You said this: "Until then, I'll judge you based on your looks- and, yes, that includes the color of your skin." So I guess your nuanced position is that if a white kid is wearing a hoodie that is not going to raise the same flags for you as if a black kid is wearing one. Really disappointed to hear you and others here embrace that position. I think it's fundamentally unAmerican and intellectually lazy.

207 "I will not [do the] rest until..." Mr. Persistently Obama

208

White House asks that all wanna-be Leni Reifenstahl's help out Dear Leader extol the virtues of TFGCare.

http://tinyurl.com/my8em4y

 

And I am again sickened that taxpayer money will be used to generate propaganda for this criminal enterprise.

209 >>Why does la Raza hate children?

Ask San Antonio mayor Julian Castro. His mom was one of the founders of La Raza.

210 Hey, apparently there was a big sweep and 193 MS-13 gand members were arrested yesterday. Only 10-15 thousand left to go.

211 11:00 am || Receives the Presidential Daily Briefing 11:45 am || Meets with senior advisors 2:15 pm || Meets with independent financial regulators Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2013 11:55 AM (el1mU) Seriously? 11AM? Wasn't it 10 before? Was that too early for President Half Day?

212

179 -

 

Who are you talking to?  Who is NOT talking about securing the border and enforcing the laws? 

 

 

213

Electro-shock therapy sees a resurgence, despite controversial past

 

Limited online research shows that the Sybian is making huge strides in the treatment of Hysteria.

214 Seriously? 11AM? Wasn't it 10 before? Was that too early for President Half Day?

Posted by: Mainah at August 19, 2013 11:58 AM (659DL)

 

Hey, go easy on him.   He's getting back into the swing of things after a week's vacation on the Vineyard, remember?   He's got to ease back into the routine.

 

[/sarc]

215 I hate it when I don't change the sock.

216

Meets with independent financial regulators

 

 

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2013 11:55 AM (el1mU)

 

 

What the HELL is an 'independent financial regulator'?

 

Isn't that an oxymoron?  (Oxymoron... hmmm... is that someone from here who walks into an Oxygen Bar, looking for the ValueRite?)

217 2:15 pm || Meets with independent financial regulators Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2013 11:55 AM (el1mU) Seriously? 11AM? Wasn't it 10 before? Was that too early for President Half Day? Posted by: Mainah at August 19, 2013 11:58 AM (659DL) 2:17, Golf 6:30 Beers 8:30 Teh butt sex.

218 I can't disagree more strongly.

Being such law and order types, I'm sure none of you racial profilers are applying this to your work life. Because that would be against the law and you wouldn't do that.

Posted by: Y-not at August 19, 2013 11:51 AM (5H6zj)

1) Not a racial profiler.  A big-picture profiler.  Dress, demeanor, skin color, age, gender. Not illegal, unless including race in police descriptions is illegal. 

2) Hell of a jump to implying AllenG and I are guilty of illegal activities in the workplace. That earns you a hearty GFY, long time poster or not. I suggest you take your holier-than-thou and shove it where the crime statistics apparently don't shine.

My viewpoint is admittedly cynical, but no one of any color or background gets a pass from me until they prove themselves personally, and I sure as shit am not going to sacrifice some readiness and safety just so someone won't call me racist.

219 What the HELL is an 'independent financial regulator'? I believe that's the new euphemism for the Fed.

220 Less than a week till I'm in Texas. Because f*** Florida, there's no jobs here, the wages if you do have one resemble Alabama wages, and cost of living resembles New Jersey. Oh, and our politicians are RINOs and traitors.

221 I can almost guarantee you -- GUARANTEE -- that there will be idiot leftwing Luddites who, when they discover such a "resurgence," will begin protesting and calling ECT "barbaric." The same idiots who protest against vaccines. Cattle prods FTW!

222 We've got to destroy this country! For the children!

223

*spinning in chair*

 

We need a new thread.

224 *spinning in chair* We need a new thread. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 19, 2013 12:02 PM (4df7R) *spins MWR's chair faster and faster*

225 Really disappointed to hear you and others here embrace that position. I think it's fundamentally unAmerican and intellectually lazy.

Posted by: Y-not at August 19, 2013 11:57 AM (5H6zj)

 

You and Jesse Jackson agree.  Its only valid if you are profiling skin color late at  night  while  at  an  ATM. 

226 We've got to destroy this country! For the children!

That's going on my list of things to embroider on a sampler print on fabric because I don't have time for embroidery.

227 I can't disagree more strongly. Being such law and order types, I'm sure none of you racial profilers are applying this to your work life. Because that would be against the law and you wouldn't do that. Posted by: Y-not at August 19, 2013 11:51 AM (5H6zj) Yeah, I sort of apply it to my life in general. I am kind to all I meet but I judge my situation accordingly. There are white tatooed yutes in this area I feel the same way about.

228 Kardashians - Womyn of Mass Distraction.

229 "*spinning in chair*

We need a new thread. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 19, 2013 12:02 PM"

Don't forget to bookmark the oddly compelling/disturbing YouTube humor I left you upthread.

230 I only profile obtuse women at my work. 

231

If we take a lead role in immigration reform, we can shape it so that we know who is in the country, where they work, where they live, we can have background checks, take fingerprints and DNA, delay any possible hope of citizenship for at least 20 years, limit benefits, have the ability to recover costs from their home country, be able to deport criminals and undesirables quickly and easily plus many other things.

 

If we leave this to the liberals, there will be 15 million new democrat voters before the next election.

 

We can either write the law or bitch at what others have wrote while we weren't in the room. 

232 Wow, I wonder how many people are choosing ECT because Carrie on Homela...sigh. This place, it be fucked.

233 So I guess your nuanced position is that if a white kid is wearing a hoodie that is not going to raise the same flags for you as if a black kid is wearing one. It's not the hoodie- it's what the hoodie signifies. Again, I wanted it to be different. I wanted to be able not to care. I wanted to be able to look at someone wearing a hoodie and say "hey, that's a nice hoodie." But Blacks- represented by the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton- among others- decided that I had to care about race. They decided that race should be given consideration in how I feel about someone (specifically someone I don't know). If that's going to be the case, that's going to be the case. And the simple fact is: the white kid in a hoodie is probably just some hipster douche wearing a hoodie. The black kid wearing a hoodie is probably *not*. Heck, many of them self-identify with known thug, drug user, and violent criminal Trayvon Martin. They made that choice, not me.

234 I'm out.


    Enjoy the day, good people.  There is never enough of them.

235 We write it, they rape it in conference. Get real.

236 I dislike the dual citizenship. They will vote here and in their home country. There is a good chance most think Mexico is their home and the USA is the meal ticket. I see the Mexican flag in classrooms here too. Some classrooms had no American flag. Out of many --One isn't happening

237 Hey, go easy on him. He's getting back into the swing of things after a week's vacation on the Vineyard, remember? He's got to ease back into the routine. [/sarc] Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 19, 2013 12:00 PM (4df7R) Heh, true, it can get hectic there in the summer! Watch out for the mopeds! Oh, and speaking of the Vineyard, there's a particular beach where people segregate themselves. One side is called the ink well. I'm sure nobody says it anymore, but I remember hearing the term over a decade ago. And I'm pretty sure the island wasn't invaded by racist conservatives who introduced the term.

238 And the simple fact is: the white kid in a hoodie is probably just some hipster douche wearing a hoodie.

*snort*  Hoodies are too mainstream for hipsters.

More likely he's just a fan of the team whose logo is printed on the hoodie.

239 Less than a week till I'm in Texas. Which part?

240 More likely he's just a fan of the team whose logo is printed on the hoodie. True. Sorry, I should have said "emo douche" not "hipster." But the point remains.

241

"We write it, they rape it in conference. "

 

We're going to own the Senate at the midterms and even if we don't take it, we would have a bill that our team could stick with.  You don't need to make any changes in conference.

242 *spins MWR's chair faster and faster*

Posted by: EC at August 19, 2013 12:02 PM (GQ8sn)

 

HEY!  

243 Hey AllenG, how goes building your Viking land yacht?

244 *watches MWR spin round round right round...  *

245 Hey AllenG, how goes building your Viking land yacht? It doesn't? Did I spout off about a viking land-yacht and not remember? I can't even blame booze.

246 My bigotry is not that I think I will be a victim of crime, its that there is an over 90 per cent chance he voted for TFG twice

247

Wow, I wonder how many people are choosing ECT because Carrie on Homela...sigh.

This place, it be fucked.

 

Posted by: akula51 at August 19, 2013 12:05 PM (4p5/2)

 

 

I have no idea what that refers to.  But the truth is that ECT really does WORK.  People who could have been helped by it have instead been scared away for years because of inaccurate pop cultural portrayals.   

248 *spins MWR's chair faster and faster* Posted by: EC at August 19, 2013 12:02 PM (GQ8sn) HEY! Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 19, 2013 12:09 PM (4df7R) *runs*

249 *watches MWR spin round round right round... * Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 12:10 PM (kENvx) *then sets a cocktail 30 ft away and watches her run after it*

250 Posted by: Mainah at August 19, 2013 12:07 PM (659DL) Never watched it, but there is a movie 'The Inkwell' about that spot.

251

Remember amnesty.  Remember Ocare.  Remember Benghazi.   Remember Fast and Furious.  Remember the IRS oppressing the Tea Party.  Remember the NSA snooping.  Remember  Dear Leader's foreign policy (or lack thereof).  Remember Dear Leader's declaring what's law and what's not.  Remember the disregarding of  federal court decisions.  Remember Soliendra (among others).   Remember  GM. 

 

So much to remember.  It's  all one can do anymore.

252 We're going to own the Senate at the midterms 'We' won't own the Senate even if Republicans sweep.

253

236   "I dislike the dual citizenship. They will vote here and in their home country."

 

If our team writes the immigration bill, we will decriminalize people here illegally, get all their information and have a clause that provides for immediate deportation if they are caught registering to vote or voting in an election.

 

This will cut down on voter fraud substantially.

254 Posted by: EC at August 19, 2013 12:11 PM (GQ8sn) On the up side: you get a head start if she's too dizzy to chase you. On the down side: she may just ask AtC to borrow the Ravage.

255 238 *snort* Hoodies are too mainstream for hipsters. Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 19, 2013 12:07 PM (/kI1Q) ---------------- No kidding. My kids wear hoodies a lot. All of their friends wear hoodies. I can see how hoodies would be useful if you're going to rob a little old lady at an ATM, covering your face, etc. But I never knew they were supposed to be a thug-sign, as it were, much less that there were racial connotations.

256 It's not the hoodie- it's what the hoodie signifies. Again, I wanted it to be different. I wanted to be able not to care. I wanted to be able to look at someone wearing a hoodie and say "hey, that's a nice hoodie." But Blacks- represented by the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton- among others- decided that I had to care about race. They decided that race should be given consideration in how I feel about someone (specifically someone I don't know). If that's going to be the case, that's going to be the case. And the simple fact is: the white kid in a hoodie is probably just some hipster douche wearing a hoodie. The black kid wearing a hoodie is probably *not*. Heck, many of them self-identify with known thug, drug user, and violent criminal Trayvon Martin. They made that choice, not me. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 19, 2013 12:06 PM (/PCJa) ____________ Well said.

257 I have no idea what that refers to. But the truth is that ECT really does WORK. People who could have been helped by it have instead been scared away for years because of inaccurate pop cultural portrayals. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 19, 2013 12:11 PM (4df7R) Homeland. Claire Danes' character gets ECT right as she figures out the terrorist plan.

258 198 MWR Back around 1960, we went to church with a family, the dad was the police chief. They lost a child in an auto accident. Her mourning period lasted more than a month, so he had his wife submitted for electoshock therapy until she simply wasn't "there" any more even though she still took up the same "space" as before. Before the shock, while she would easily cry, she was still herself. But after the electorshocks, she was like a rag doll. That decade, another mother in our congregation lost her son in the Vietnam War, and just couldn't get over it quickly. Same thing; husband had her go through electroshock after which she no longer spoke with congregants, in her case because she just quit leaving home to go out in public after the electroshock therapy. Those women were turned into near mutes, shadows of themselves, and they NEVER got better after the electroshocks. At least while they were mourning, they were still themselves, and only crying on occasion. But after the "therapy" they became completely withdrawn instead of a little withdrawn and still "there" with their eyes connecting, and listening intently instead of seeming deaf and mute. So yeah, I don't like the idea that electroshock therapy is endorsed, particularly when ObamaCare will utilize the LEAST EXPENSE when "treating" patients according to the bureaucratic determined "best" means to THEIR ends.

259 Nah AllenG, I just suddenly remembered that picture of some dude in the DFW area with the Viking land yacht...

260
Remember amnesty. Remember Ocare. Remember Benghazi. Remember Fast and Furious. Remember the IRS oppressing the Tea Party. Remember the NSA snooping. Remember Dear Leader's foreign policy (or lack thereof). Remember Dear Leader's declaring what's law and what's not. Remember the disregarding of federal court decisions. Remember Soliendra (among others). Remember GM.

So much to remember. It's all one can do anymore.

Posted by: Soona at August 19, 2013 12:12 PM (Nxs/f)

Death by 1000 cuts, and no way to stop the bleeding from all of them.  Or with this GOP, any of them.

261

Oh FFS.   Warning, incoming douche spray from  David "Douche Punch" Sirota at     amateur webzine Salon:

 

What if the president lied to us?

So many of President Obama's statements about NSA have been wrong. But he's too smart not to understand the truth

 

I'm not even going to link it or quote from it.   The title and subheading are proof enough of this   assbasket's stupidity     and   god worship.

262 Jest They are not on our team We have no team

263 No kidding. My kids wear hoodies a lot. All of their friends wear hoodies. I can see how hoodies would be useful if you're going to rob a little old lady at an ATM, covering your face, etc. But I never knew they were supposed to be a thug-sign, as it were, much less that there were racial connotations. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2013 12:12 PM (C8mVl) They weren't until the gangs got a hold of them. Like NASCAR jackets. Saw a Black yute with a M&M's Kyle Bush Jacket. I says, "So, you a KB fan?" He looks at me and says "Who?" They are using them for local gang colors.

264

"Until then, I'll judge you based on your looks- and, yes, that includes the color of your skin." 

--

 

Who said this?

265 I work at an office that provides criminal defense for indigent people, one of the victims of a crime I was working around earlier had been arrested over 20 times, and was afraid to talk to the police because he was told one more time and he would be deported - - - OVER 20 TIMES!!!!!!  and he had spent plenty of time in jail too, guilty of plenty of things, what the hell?  this is all such nonsense, innocent men are not sitting at home reading a bed time story when the deportation crowd shows up, they have to be real assholes to bring this down upon themselves, we have so many people in our jails that are here illegally and they are not being deported, if this girl's dad is just a fine upstanding citizen then I do not believe for half a second that he is facing deportation just for being here illegally

266 If our team writes the immigration bill, we will decriminalize people here illegally, get all their information and have a clause that provides for immediate deportation if they are caught registering to vote or voting in an election. How cute. Let's say you're right, and that's really what happens. About 10 minutes after the law goes into effect, some newly "legalized" illegal alien undocumented worker tries to register to vote, is denied (and threatened with deportation) and the ACLU and La Raza step in to sue the US Government on 14th Amendment grounds. Then, CJ John Roberts finds "it's a tax," and strikes down that part of the law- allowing 12 million more new Democrat voters. But I don't think "our" (that is: your) team will really write such a tough law. That would make them "mean" and they can't stand people not thinking well of them.

267 They weren't until the gangs got a hold of them. Like NASCAR jackets. Saw a Black yute with a M&M's Kyle Bush Jacket. I says, "So, you a KB fan?" He looks at me and says "Who?" They are using them for local gang colors.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 19, 2013 12:14 PM (XIxXP)

Lots of yoots wearing ball caps for teams not in that city?  Also gang-related.

268

Steak? Check

Oil? Check

Conservative government? Check

Not 25 below in January? Check


Texas

Posted by: Thunderb at August 19, 2013 11:42 AM (zOTsN)

 

 

Alberta: north north Texas.

Posted by: EC at August 19, 2013 11:44 AM (GQ8sn)

 

Canada.  Hate speech laws.  No, thank you.

269 Britain suspends joint projects with Egyptian security forces Published: 08.19.13, 18:06 / Israel News Britain decided to partially suspend security cooperation with Egypt in response to the violent clashes in the country between security forces and Muslim Brotherhood supporters. "We have suspended projects with the Egyptian security forces. We have revoked a number of export licenses, and I think then among the European countries we should review together how we try to aid Egypt, what aid and assistance we give to Egypt in the future," said British Foreign Secretary William Hague in an interview to BBC radio. (Ynet) The West has gone fruckin nuts.

270 Anyone who wears a hoodie when it's not 50 degrees or less is up to no good. You don't need a sweater when it's warm for any legitimate purpose.

271 The politician could have explained to the girl that all nations must have laws (rules), or there will be chaos. He could have asked her if she'd ever seen another kid trying to push his way into the front of a line --either in school, or at an amusement park, etc. He could have explained that the kid was breaking the rules, and that his rule-breaking had to be punished because we need rules in order to have fairness and safety and order in society. The politician could have explained to the little girl that her father made a choice to break the law (the rules) and push himself ahead in the line of people waiting to get into this country legally, and that was a bad choice and the wrong thing to do, and that her father knew in advance that his bad choice could have consequences that would negatively affect his family -- but he did it anyway. Put the blame where it belongs -- on the lawbreakers.

272 We can either write the law or bitch at what others have wrote while we weren't in the room.

 

 

Posted by: jwest at August 19, 2013 12:05 PM (u2a4R)

 

 

Novel idea... how about enforcing the EXISTING Laws...

 

The only reason we have a problem, is that existing laws are not enforced... but Governments only response.... and yours... is another Law?

 

Its funny how Republicans are all OK with grabbing my email and phone records... but not OK with going after Actual Crooks... ie... identity theft?

 

Turn that dam NSA data mining project onto illegals for 10 minutes... and you'd have most of Illegals identified through the various fraudulent records they must keep.  Heck.... a simple check of IRS Records... which they are SUPPOSED to be doing... would identify most...

273 I just suddenly remembered that picture of some dude in the DFW area with the Viking land yacht... Not me. Though, I'll admit I'm jealous.

274 Has anyone reminded Gaylord Focker or McCain of Task Force Sinai?

275 Never watched it, but there is a movie 'The Inkwell' about that spot. Posted by: RWC at August 19, 2013 12:11 PM (fWAjv) Hmmm, came out in 94. I wonder if Hollywood coined the term. Didn't know there was a movie about it.

276 147 Organizing for America is planting these kids in town halls all across the country We don't know if their stories are even true. Congressman should get their names and addresses for "constituent service", ask who brought them to the townhall, what group got them together Expose the lie, reject the premise. Posted by: Thunderb at August 19, 2013 11:40 AM (zOTsN) ___________ It's like the gotcha abortion questions that no Republican can ever answer coherently. It's not that hard to have a canned no-response response. Dems have one for every topic.

277 Just got kitty Bella to eat a few bits of sardine from my hand. She has trouble finding/swallowing the pieces, but at least I got some food in her.

278 AllenG: College Station/Bryan

279 Remember amnesty. Remember Ocare. Remember Benghazi. Remember Fast and Furious. Remember the IRS oppressing the Tea Party. Remember the NSA snooping. Remember Dear Leader's foreign policy (or lack thereof). Remember Dear Leader's declaring what's law and what's not. Remember the disregarding of federal court decisions. Remember Soliendra (among others). Remember GM. So much to remember. It's all one can do anymore. Remember The Alamo!

280 Posted by: EC at August 19, 2013 11:52 AM (GQ8sn) 6, 7, 13 are NOT provinces. They are territories.

281 263 ---They weren't until the gangs got a hold of them. Like NASCAR jackets. Saw a Black yute with a M&M's Kyle Bush Jacket. I says, "So, you a KB fan?" He looks at me and says "Who?" They are using them for local gang colors. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 19, 2013 12:14 PM (XIxXP) --------------- Very interesting. I didn't know about that.

282 Has anyone reminded Gaylord Focker or McCain of Task Force Sinai? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 12:17 PM (kENvx) I am sure they have their express tickets to the Israeli Border in their pockets and an a good escape route planed out

283 6, 7, 13 are NOT provinces. They are territories. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 19, 2013 12:18 PM (HDgX3) Read the thread, we have worked our way through that already.

284

It's time to ask Liberals this question:

 

Why do Mexicans get to cut in line in front of everyone from the rest of the world waiting to emigrate to the USA?

 

 

Where's the equality in that?

285 Novel idea... how about enforcing the EXISTING Laws... -- Yes. And that would require the Executive Branch to be prosecuted for fraud and crimes. 2 birds 1 stone Accountability.

286 The only reason we have a problem, is that existing laws are not enforced... but Governments only response.... and yours... is another Law? Welcome to the 2nd Amendent fight. Same fight, different flavor.

287 247 I have no idea what that refers to. But the truth is that ECT really does WORK. People who could have been helped by it have instead been scared away for years because of inaccurate pop cultural portrayals. What it refers to is that people in this country aren't swayed by medical evidence or reason/logic, but if some star on the Idiot Box does something, somehow it's now mainstream to most of America. No doubt it's helped people and will continue to help people. Just like vaccines and countless other technologies.

288 Anyone who wears a hoodie when it's not 50 degrees or less is up to no good. You don't need a sweater when it's warm for any legitimate purpose.

Posted by: Cato at August 19, 2013 12:16 PM (sJRju)


Not sure about that.  I see Caribbean guys wearing jackets and toques when it's 75-80.  It's cold for them.  I watched a guy for a couple of weeks earlier this summer.  Happened to walk the same way as I do to work, and that's all it is.  Perfectly normal dude.  Just seemed odd at first.

The key in determining potential threat is what kind of warm clothing, are they in a group of people wearing similar, what sort of posture does the person have?

289 Why do Mexicans get to cut in line in front ofeveryone from the rest of the world waitingto emigrate to the USA? They don't. But, they can walk here from there.

290 Why does la Raza want to take jobs from hardworking African Americans?

291 Posted by: EC at August 19, 2013 11:52 AM (GQ8sn) 6, 7, 13 are NOT provinces. They are territories. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 19, 2013 12:18 PM (HDgX3) That's what I said. Read it again.

292 That's what I said. Read it again. Posted by: EC at August 19, 2013 12:21 PM (GQ8sn) Next he'll want to argue BBQ sauce.

293 Why are little girls (non-voters) allowed to ask questions at a town hall?

Children are meant to be seen and not heard.

294 I'm pretty sure existing law calls for a secured border. So get back with us when that's done and we can figure out if anything actually needs to be reformed. Until then, anything is just pissing in the wind. This all needs to be on some sort of a macro.

295 Posted by: Cato at August 19, 2013 12:17 PM (sJRju) Whoop. (Get used to that, you'll hear it a lot in Aggieland). And, when you get a chance, I heartily recommend Freebirds World Burrito.

296 246 My bigotry is not that I think I will be a victim of crime, its that there is an over 90 per cent chance he voted for TFG twice Posted by: Thunderb at August 19, 2013 12:11 PM (zOTsN) Understandable. I catch this quite a bit. Also I catch shock in on faces when a stream of "Ebonics" does not issue forth from my mouth--not understandable. There are a shit ton of well-spoken blacks, of which Obama is not one.

297 292 That's what I said. Read it again.
Posted by: EC at August 19, 2013 12:21 PM (GQ8sn)  


Next he'll want to argue BBQ sauce.      

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 19, 2013 12:22 PM (XIxXP)

 

 

Its a well documented fact that Canadians prefer Crossbows...

298 Remember The Alamo!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2013 12:18 PM (uVkIH)

 

Remember  the Maine!

299 Death by 1000 cuts, and no way to stop the bleeding from all of them. Or with this GOP, any of them. Posted by: grognard at August 19, 2013 12:13 PM Yep, Saul Alinsky's Cloward Piven Strategy in action. http://bit.ly/1akLEkI One of two things must be true. Either the Democrats are unfathomable idiots, who ignorantly pursue ever more destructive policies despite decades of contrary evidence, or they understand the consequences of their actions and relentlessly carry on anyway because they somehow benefit. I submit to you they understand the consequences. For many it is simply a practical matter of eliciting votes from a targeted constituency at taxpayer expense; we lose a little, they gain a lot, and the politician keeps his job. But for others, the goal is more malevolent - the failure is deliberate. Don't laugh. This method not only has its proponents, it has a name: the Cloward-Piven Strategy. It describes their agenda, tactics, and long-term strategy. The Strategy was first elucidated in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation magazine by a pair of radical socialist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. David Horowitz summarizes it as: The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse. Cloward and Piven were inspired by radical organizer [and Hillary Clinton mentor] Saul Alinsky: "Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules," Alinsky wrote in his 1989 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system's failure to "live up" to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist "rule book" with a socialist one. (Courtesy Discover the Networks.org) Newsmax rounds out the picture: Their strategy to create political, financial, and social chaos that would result in revolution blended Alinsky concepts with their more aggressive efforts at bringing about a change in U.S. government. To achieve their revolutionary change, Cloward and Piven sought to use a cadre of aggressive organizers assisted by friendly news media to force a re-distribution of the nation's wealth. [ ... ] No matter where the strategy is implemented, it shares the following features: The offensive organizes previously unorganized groups eligible for government benefits but not currently receiving all they can. The offensive seeks to identify new beneficiaries and/or create new benefits. The overarching aim is always to impose new stresses on target systems, with the ultimate goal of forcing their collapse.

300 Why do they want to take benefits from hardworking Americans and give them to illegals?

301 Greasy nood up.

302 269---The West has gone fruckin nuts. Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2013 12:16 PM (9Xc5j) --------------- Why, yes, it has. The disjuncture between belief and objective reality has truly become psychotic.

303 Its a well documented fact that Canadians prefer Crossbows... Posted by: Romeo13 at August 19, 2013 12:23 PM (lZBBB) Readin Wiki again are ya? Everybody knows........

304 In Breitbart, culture drives politics, news -- pay attention to Dana White. The most freedom-loving major sports CEO out there. On his twitter today he post pictures of him shooting his 50 cal to celebrate UFC's launch on Fox Sports 1. https://twitter.com/danawhite/status/369490623910277121/photo/1 Dana also routinely rails against unions and any politician who tries to block people from attending a UFC event -- which the Dems/unions often do -- on the grounds that "This is America, who the fuck are you tell people what to do? Why should a fucking politician be telling you what you can and cannot do? This is fucking America." Dana's no social con. Very libertarianish. And he mainly cares about getting rich off UFC. Put he's pro-gun, pro-alcohol, and pro-dudes braining each other for our entertainment.

305 Next he'll want to argue BBQ sauce. And then crossbow vs. longbows.

306 @295: My there-local friends have been threatening to get me something called the Super Monster from Freebirds. I've heard it described as a "baby burrito", in that it's about the size of a baby.

307

That laughter you hear, it's not me laughing with jwest, it's laughing at teh stupid.  To paraphrase one of Teh SCOAMT's guiding lights, "It's not who writes the laws, it's who decides how and whether they're enforced."

308 It's like the gotcha abortion questions that no Republican can ever answer coherently. It's not that hard to have a canned no-response response. Dems have one for every topic.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo

That or come up with a visceral counter-narrative that might actually, you know, persuade.

Everyone knows the narrative for increased immigration/open borders: It's only Faaaair, Immigration is the holiest sacrament of America, etc.

The Right has never offered a counter to those and, if they don't come up with something just as powerful, just as easily understood, it's a lost battle.

309

Next he'll want to argue BBQ sauce.

 

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 19, 2013 12:22 PM (XIxXP)

 

Western Carolina or Kansas City, please.

310 256 It's not the hoodie- it's what the hoodie signifies. Again, I wanted it to be different. I wanted to be able not to care. I wanted to be able to look at someone wearing a hoodie and say "hey, that's a nice hoodie." But Blacks- represented by the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton- among others- decided that I had to care about race. They decided that race should be given consideration in how I feel about someone (specifically someone I don't know). If that's going to be the case, that's going to be the case. And the simple fact is: the white kid in a hoodie is probably just some hipster douche wearing a hoodie. The black kid wearing a hoodie is probably *not*. Heck, many of them self-identify with known thug, drug user, and violent criminal Trayvon Martin. They made that choice, not me. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 19, 2013 12:06 PM (/PCJa) ____________ Allen I understand where you're coming from, but holding black persons responsible for Jackson and Sharpton shows how successful (very white) the Left has been in putting forth yet another Big Lie: that they are any sort of "black leader" or represent anything other than themselves and those who fund them. Hint: not black people.

311 Clyde Shelton at August 19, 2013 12:24 PM (7A4qQ) When shit hits then fan it flys upward too. When you live inside the beltway you start to believe the lies.

312 Look out for the Canadians. They are preparing a stealth attack.

And funding it by being cheap/no tippers.

Posted by: Purp at August 19, 2013 11:32 AM (vZOX+)

Living in Florida, you have your perceptions tainted by dealing with so many Canadians from Quebec and Ontario. In the former, especially, they have raised rudeness to a science.

We Western Canadians consider ourselves to be better than that. I routinely tip 15-20 percent, and only truly rotten service will earn a "no-tip".

313 The Democrats will get everything they've ever wanted after Amnesty.

314 312 Look out for the Canadians. They are preparing a stealth attack. And funding it by being cheap/no tippers. Posted by: Purp at August 19, 2013 11:32 AM (vZOX+) Living in Florida, you have your perceptions tainted by dealing with so many Canadians from Quebec and Ontario. In the former, especially, they have raised rudeness to a science. We Western Canadians consider ourselves to be better than that. I routinely tip 15-20 percent, and only truly rotten service will earn a "no-tip". Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2013 12:38 PM (60Q+L) --- Ditto.

315

211 Seriously? 11AM? Wasn't it 10 before? Was that too early for President Half Day?

 

Jet lagged because of the long flight from Martha's Vineyard.

 

316 1. Alberta
2. British Columbia
3. Manitoba
4. New Brunswick
5. Newfoundland & Labrador
6. Northwest Territories
7. Nova Scotia
8. Nunavut
9. Ontario
10. Prince Edward Island
11. Quebec
12. Saskatchewan
13. Yukon

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 19, 2013 11:50 AM (XIxXP)

Northwest Territories, Nunavut, and Yukon are territories, not Provinces, and they are largely administered by the Federal government, although they do have assemblies. Mostly they are not populous enough to be Provinces.

And Guam and Puerto Rico aren't States, either.

317 231 If we take a lead role in immigration reform, we can shape it so that we know who is in the country, where they work, where they live, we can have background checks, take fingerprints and DNA, delay any possible hope of citizenship for at least 20 years, limit benefits, have the ability to recover costs from their home country, be able to deport criminals and undesirables quickly and easily plus many other things.

If we leave this to the liberals, there will be 15 million new democrat voters before the next election.

We can either write the law or bitch at what others have wrote while we weren't in the room.

Posted by: jwest at August 19, 2013 12:05 PM (u2a4R)

 

Delusional fucking retard.

318 Amazing. Fucking amazing. Here's TFG's "hometown" paper editorializing in favor of the GOP idea to postpone ObamaCare. http://bit.ly/14cPUi Has this ever happened before? A newspaper editorial opposing the God-King? What about the Middle Class?!!

319 "Until then, I'll judge you based on your looks- and, yes, that includes the color of your skin."

So I guess your nuanced position is that if a white kid is wearing a hoodie that is not going to raise the same flags for you as if a black kid is wearing one.

Really disappointed to hear you and others here embrace that position. I think it's fundamentally unAmerican and intellectually lazy.

Posted by: Y-not at August 19, 2013 11:57 AM (5H6zj)

No it's not. "Looks" isn't only skin color, it also includes dress. That's pretty important...

320 Allen I understand where you're coming from, but holding black persons responsible for Jackson and Sharpton shows how successful (very white) the Left has been in putting forth yet another Big Lie: that they are any sort of "black leader" or represent anything other than themselves and those who fund them. Hint: not black people.

Posted by: baldilockss at August 19, 2013 12:29 PM (Tnlh/)

I think it's a straw man to argue that what Allen is doing is holding black people "responsible". That's not what really what it is. If anything it's more a defense mechanism, because one would obviously behave differently around a thug than a banker in a suit.

321 Could a State write into law that giving false info on E verify means automatic loss of all State government benefits? Seems like the "we'll deport you" deterrent has about flown the coop. But I bet that more illegals would give pause to giving false info if told that it means no more Free Shit. Which brings up the larger issue that "in the shadows" is exactly right for illegals, which is cousin to the concept of self deportation. If you're not comfortable giving citizenship info i.e. here illegally then you should be relegated to crappy jobs, no benefits, and fearing imprisonment.

322 1, 2, 3... Testing.

323 I refuse to trust white people in a hoodie either. Probably Russian mafia.

324

Also if you have the following;

Voter #1 - Amnesty is the most important issue.

1) Politician A loves you would vote amnesty even if it ruined the country and would bring your entire family here and give them free education

2) Politcian B supports amnesty grudgingly

 

Why would you ever vote for Politcian B even if he supports amnesty?