1 Grumpy cat and doom!, my morning complete!

2 Nobody has left the early thread yet apparently.

3 Thanks for the Doom!

4 Day 7 of SHUTDOWN! Delay tactic still considered genius?

5 Birthday Doom for Cicero Kid! German Chocolate, please!

6 Its all DOOM all the time now.

7 "King Barry, the Petulant"

Sort of rolls off the tongue in a smooth and easy manner, no?

8 Life is getting up every morning and doing the necessary, and then getting up the next day and doing it all over again. Sometimes we do this right up until death interrupts the process



LOL, sounds like quoting Big Daddy in Cat On A Hot Tin Rood.

9 Nice Doom Monty.

Two types of people "want to take of each other"

1) idealists or lazy assholes who want to be taken care of

2) the guy who wants to be in charge of the taking care of....

1 enables 2

10 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

11 Yes. I got the memo.

12 Here is an odd gentleman thing. When entering an elevator , man enters before women, just in case the extra weight sends the car plummeting down. Ladies exit first.

13 Economics literacy is if anything less prevalent in our society than an understanding of civics and good citizenship.

You're welcome for the happy reminder.

and now a word from the NEA.

"You're welcome for the syllabus."

//NEA

14 1 enables 2 Posted by: Sven10077 at October 07, 2013 08:31 AM (9jfyN) And 2 doesn't do it for free. He usually morphs into the all controlling evel.

15 11 Allen G,

Well in lieu of advocating getting out of donkey's way I have taken to basket weaving....

the two stitch is a keeper.

16

Socialism works great for the elite in charge.

 

Also, people who submit to socialism don't do it because they don't want to work.  The vast majority are willing to work hard if they are freed of responsibility. 

 

They want to be told what to do, when to do it, how to do it and so on in exchange for a guarantee of their basic needs.  A parent/child relationship.

 

Certainly, there are a percentage of loafers who want something for nothing, but the vast majority of socialist accepting people are frightened sheep who desperately want to be told what to do.

17 How have we come to this point? Because Humanity (as a rule) is lazy, selfish, and greedy. Next question?

18 Monty gets it: 404Care problems are not an IT issue but in the underlying moebius strip "logic".

19

DOOM!  Like an old friend, always good to see a Monty post.

 

We, as a society, are running up enormous debts and laying the burden of repayment on our children and grandchildren. They will be fully justified if they repudiate this debt.

 

I've always wondered about this - creditors eventually die or go bankrupt.  After strange eons, cannot debt itself die?

20 14 Old Sailor's Poet,

Quite...

hey relax everyone...I'm certain Barack will be just as restrained with our healthcare in a shutdown as he is with our war dead...

"oh"

21 16 JWest,

I advocate free airline tickets to EUrabia for them then.

22 19 Bevel L,

Debt is a lot like the negative zone of Intellectual Property....

Once upon a time yes you could outrun the reaper and death was a get out of jail free card, BUT given that most debt is corporate based I'd say no.

Mick E Maus is still Walt's despite the old laws....

we are on pace to have people again inheriting their father's and grandfather's debt much to our detriment as a society.

23 The yearning for socialism goes far deeper than just that society would be better off if we all would just be able to live at the expense of everyone else. It goes to the very core of the human psyche. It is the social and economic manifestation of the need to transcend mortality, to achieve a form of "salvation" to eternal life through collective salvation. It is a deity-free religion. This is not an idle theory. Even Obama himself has said in speeches several times that he seeks our collective salvation. see for example: The myth of 'collective salvation' by Mark Callaghan http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/the_myth_of_collective_salvati.html also see: Marx as Millennial Communist by Murray N. Rothbard http://mises.org/daily/3769 Early Secular Communism by Murray N. Rothbard http://lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard294.html

24

>>>The lousy rollout of ObamaCare is testament to the government's essential inability to execute on large, complex projects like this

 

But Rachel Maddow did a commercial at Hoover Dam to remind us all how govt does Big Things alla  time!

25 DOOM: A little dab'll do ya

 

DOOM: You'll look so debonair

26

Here is an odd gentleman thing. When entering an elevator , man enters before women, just in case the extra weight sends the car plummeting down. Ladies exit first.

 

Huh.  Never heard that one before (part 1 that is).  Makes sense I suppose....guess I'll be tackling the ladies out of the way  at work today!

 

(And by 'tackling' I mean 'subtly groping'....because  Momma taught me to be a gentleman!)

 

 

27 I am not so cynical about helping people. Perhaps a little Matthew 25:31-46 is to be considered. But compelling other poeple to help people is not helping people.

28 Posted by: Sven10077 at October 07, 2013 08:31 AM (9jfyN) You forgot #3: Family. Specifically - close family. That aunt I've never met and whose name I don't even remember? Yeah, she doesn't really count. OTOH, I'd impoverish myself to care for my parents or brothers if I had to. But no one in DC is asking forcing me to do that.

29

For all those idjits who say Obamacare is the law of the land - like the Dems and squishy sector of the GOP:

 

Do we have to live with bad law, or is it our right and duty to change it if it is bad for this country and we donÂ’t want it?

 

If we have to live with it, then shouldn't we live with the Dred Scott Decision, the separate but equal doctrine, Prohibition, and only men having the right to vote?

 

 

30

"One of the principles I've always lived by is that, most of the time, there's no reward for doing the right thing. No pat on the back, no promotion, no bonus payment, no certificate, no trophy, no party. No one's going to congratulate me for doing something I should be doing anyway. This is not injustice. That's just the way things are. That's how things should be."

=========

I taught my son to do the right thing. It actually paid off for him. One time he volunteered to help an older lady haul her groceries out to her car and she gave him 2 dollars.  Now this was a few yrs ago and #1 it surprised the lady that a kid his age would even offer to help and #2 shocked the hell outta my boy that she would give him money for just helping carry stuff.

  And yet, this is what people are not teaching kids anymore. They demand that everyone get a trophy for participating because no one should have hurt feelings. This has brought us a whole army of kids who think they should get special treatment just for getting out of bed.  

 

 

31 Happy Monday Morning Doom. Should be another interesting week. I have to say: there were comments and arguments about essential vs non essential government employees. All the rational arguments aside, the issue is not about certain job functions. The issue is the size of government and the cost to run it. There will be unfortunate job losses but those jobs should never have created in the first place.

32 Monty is bringing the common-sense DOOM.

33 28 AllenG,

The family is the basic unit of humanity and it is what differentiates the simian kingdom from other pack animals.

There's a reason the evangelical left seeks to undermine the family and it ain't a benign one.

34 Ahh, I loves DOOM™ Here on the GA. coast? 20% white joblessness, 50% black. But Duh!1 can golf, so "what difference does it make?" I'm squeaking by. Sure would like a job but I guess nowadays that is optional....

35 Debt
Is the threat
That we bet
Won't get met

It's got DOOM
It's got feelin'...

36 Awesome post, Monty...

37 From the other thread: 102 A word to the wise for the Morons and 'Ettes who were no here this weekend. Be careful in your comments because Ace was wielding the banhammer over comments he thought were advocating violence. And his tolerance was VERY low. Posted by: Vic at October 07, 2013 07:45 AM (zZbNF) Yep. Ace was not happy. Even "Burn it down" may release the hounds. Especially after Flatbush Joe complained about it (again). This time he got to complain to the teacher. To be forewarned is to be forearmed.

38

Rachel Maddow at Hoover Dam.

 

There is a great joke in there somewhere.

39

"DOOM: A little dab'll do ya"

 

 

I don't want no DOOM!, goddammit! I'm a Dapper Dan man!

40 Yaaaay Doom! When you ignore the human element and focus only on the numbers, you miss most of what economics really is.
I used to remind both my bosses and the clients at my old firm that the client's emotional state had a dollar value and only the client could tell me what it was. We had clients who were terrified of going to court and thus would take less in settlement than we would likely have gotten at trial because they would not go to court. We had clients who were adamant that they have their day in court and thus rejected excellent settlement offers and ended up with far lower verdicts. In neither case did I think that the person was acting contrary to their best interests. Instead, they were placing a tangible value on an intangible good. That is life. Needless to say, my bosses hated this because we got screwed out of fees but, as I reminded them, that was the risk to which they agreed when they decided to go into a practice area in which their pay was contingent. Life is getting up every morning and doing the necessary, and then getting up the next day and doing it all over again. There's a reason that the ALL THE THINGS post resonated so well. It's because being an adult is precisely that. Doing it over and over and over again with no end in sight. The All The Things post for those who haven't read it - http://bit.ly/cN31fS I must admit to being at the last stage of that process at the moment right now. I've read the article on repudiating the debt and shall have to ponder it more. I don't necessarily disagree on a philosophical basis but it has practical implications that are significant. Then again, that which cannot be repaid won't so theory is great and all but reality will win. It always does.

41 DOD Civilians going back to work today.   The wife got a text from a former co-worker saying they all had to come back to work this AM.

42 To be forewarned is to be forearmed.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at October 07, 2013 08:45 AM (r+7wo)

 

And to be four armed probably means you're a mutant.

43 Ask any of the "law of the land" types what they thought of Don't Ask Don't Tell, and did opposing it mean extremism?

44

"...When you hear someone say "We all need to take care of each other", what they're really saying is "I want someone to take care of me"..."

And somebody else saying "I want to control you."

45 Posted by: blaster at October 07, 2013 08:39 AM (W6bkf) There's a difference between "helping people" and "taking care of each other." "Helping people" is one way. Everyone involved in the transaction (as it were) is aware that Party A (the helper) is not getting anything of value from Party B (the helpee). Any value Party A receives is purely internal (unless we want to get into a theological debate- which I don't at 7:42 CDT on Monday morning). "Taking care of each other" turns that around. If I fail to "help" someone else, then I am in their debt. Party A helping Party B is no longer a voluntary transaction wherein Party A expects no material return; it is instead a transaction whereby Party A propitiates a "debt" incurred by simply being a member of society. Party B incurs no debt by being unable to care for himself, but instead accrues some form of "credit" in society- credit which is balanced by Party A "helping" him. Jesus never suggested that I owe it to the poor or the infirm to help them. Rather that those acts of mercy are among the things required to gain entry into Heaven. And I'll leave it there cause: no theological debate this early.

46 37 Chicque D'Africque,

Yup....we have our own little cacaphony of Poppin' Fresh Acolytes here.

Flatbush Joe thinks Ogabeism is a cold that will pass...

I think it is Ebola and is gonna kill the village

47 I see that the Selective Service site has a notice that it's currently shut down.
But, you can still peruse the front page.

Now help me out here please, and tell me if this really means that male Undocumented Pre-Citizens  in the correct age group are required to Register with the Selective Service.


http://tinyurl.com/9yerttc

48 But compelling other poeple to help people is not helping people. Posted by: blaster at October 07, 2013 08:39 AM (W6bkf) Exactly. I don't know why grocery stores have decided to get into schilling for different charities but that pisses me off. "Would you like to donate to the dying children's fund?" Right in front of a line of shoppers. I don't appreciate using the shame card. I say clearly, "No I would not."

49 I always remember the line from the Incredibles when the villian (can't remember his name) finally tells Mr. Incredible what his ultimate goal is: to sell everybody super powers.

"Because when everybody's a super, nobody's a super".

This is the goal of the left.  Substitute any liberal buzzword for super: "special", "exceptional", "a winner", "a family unit".  They all fit. They all apply.

They will make us all beggars, 'cuz they're easier to please...

50 When entering an elevator , man enters before women, just in case the extra weight sends the car plummeting down. Ladies exit first.

Just in case there's a mental case with a gun lurking in the lobby, lol.

51

52 Here is an odd gentleman thing. When entering an elevator , man enters before women, just in case the extra weight sends the car plummeting down.



A rule made by, coincidentally, the ladies.  Seems like this is the perfect time and place for a little equality in the workplace.

53 When Ace went on his rampage a couple of weeks ago and banned Marple, he wasn't sleeping. He was posting all over the internet all night. I thought, okay, he's taking the next day off. Nope. A couple of hours later, he was back here. He was so out of control, he was insulting puppies.

54 47 Village Idiot's Apprentice,

Yes sir it does....

Wolfman Jack used to do a PSA where he alluded to it.

It's in this mix of Route 66.

http://youtu.be/1oZPtbXBn-4

55 Whew - saved from the other thread by Doom. A good Monday all around.

56

"We, as a society, are running up enormous debts and laying the burden of repayment on our children and grandchildren. They will be fully justified if they repudiate this debt."

 

We do have that option, but only because we're the U.S.

 

No other country can unilaterally say that they are changing the rules of the game and that everyone else has to accept it.  There is an argument to be made to take this route, although there are reasons to continue playing by the old rules.

 

My position is that if shit hits the fan to the extent that it would substantially degrade the quality of life in the  U.S., it's time to pull the trigger and assert our authority in the world.

57 And Detroit is not the only city going under due to a mountain of debt.  It is just the worst.  And we are still bailing them out from those union contracts they signed.  And that really aggravates me.


http://tinyurl.com/oh99n6w

58 You quote the New Testament at the end, while missing the broader point: Americans have been trained for generations to worship false Gods, not the one that made the U.S. great.

59

If a debt was run up in my name but without my knowledge or consent, I have no obligation (ethically) to repay that debt. ItÂ’s a fundamental precept of contract law, going all the way back to ancient times. We, as a society, are running up enormous debts and laying the burden of repayment on our children and grandchildren. They will be fully justified if they repudiate this debt.

 

Just laying the groundwork for the grandkids to say to mom (and if he's in the picture, pop), "Fuck you, you old hag. I want, so you won't get."

 

We Gen-Xers are so terminally boned it's not funny.  Our only hope is the collapse comes fast enough so at least some of the Boomers get boned as well.

60 Italics FAIL.  At least I don't have to go to the barrel because of it.

61

Thanks for the DOOOOOOOM Monty.  It amazes me that there are so many people out there that work the system so they don't have to work.  60 Minutes covered SS Disability fraud last night.  They game the system with Lawyers and crooked Doctors all to get a stipend of about 1100 dollars.  If you just applied yourself to a job it should not be too hard to exceed that figure.  Somewhere along the way the people have lost all pride.  I remember my grandparents working well into their 70's so as not to be dependent on SS or any kind of welfare.  Menial jobs.  There took pride in what they did and cherished what they had because they earned it.  Different world now.

62 To go totally OT? I confessed to the either fabulously wealthy or totally destitute ( Depending on which gossip-mongers you believe ) Crazy Cat Lady of the Island that I might love her- a little. And she admitted the same thing about me. So? We'll see where it goes. It's been three years & some months since we both said "the long goodbye" to our mates for decades.

63 If a debt was run up in my name but without my knowledge or consent, I have no obligation (ethically) to repay that debt. ItÂ’s a fundamental precept of contract law, going all the way back to ancient times. We, as a society, are running up enormous debts and laying the burden of repayment on our children and grandchildren. They will be fully justified if they repudiate this debt. -- Monty Moreover, the debt is increased AGAINST our specific determination made evident by electoral results and communications with national representatives, AND the tax funds are spent to augment authoritarianism AGAINST our specific determination made evident by our responses, electoral results and communications with national representatives. "Make Washington Listen" got Reid's response: Why Should I/We Care? To Washingtonians, no one else matters except to keep Washingtonian pockets full of gold and Washingtonian access to all things open and available to elitists only. We Don't Count in their book. We are the butt of the Soviet joke. It doesn't matter who votes; only who counts the votes. Seasons change. I got a rat with my pitchfork last week. Fall gardening begins by removing the weeds and turning over the soil.

64 Mmm....fresh Monday morning DOOM....

65 "Yes sir it does...."

Thanks Sven.
I was really hoping I would be wrong in that, but nope.
There seems to be no limit to the degree of stupid that we can strive for.

It's as if there are people in the government having a contest about how stupid a policy can be before the people reject it.

66 So Flatbush Joe can bitch about every fucking thing we talk about and others get run but dagny and Miss Marple say some relatively innocuous things and get insulted and placed in the sidebar? Yeah that makes sense...

67 I always remember the line from the Incredibles when the villian (can't remember his name) finally tells Mr. Incredible what his ultimate goal is: to sell everybody super powers. Syndrome. "No Capes!" And I'm *still* surprised that movie made it past the Disney filters- it was all about actually being the best you can be, even if others don't appreciate it, and taking responsibility for one's choices and actions, even when it's painful. Heck, it even included the necessity of the traditional family, and that Mom and Dad both have a role which must be fulfilled. I mean- it was a big dose of Social Conservatism right there in 90 minute format.

68

No one's going to congratulate me for doing something I should be doing anyway.

 

This gets to the heart of why I HATE it when people heap praise on someone -- self included -- for doing their job.  When someone asks me,  "Hey, MWR.  Can you please format this document so it matches the formatting of the other docs in this series," I say, "Okay!" and do it.  While it's nice to receive a, "Thank you!" after it's done, it irritates me no end when someone heaps effusive praise on me like I just cured cancer and discovered cold fusion AT THE SAME TIME.  

 

"OMG you're the greatest!  Thank you so much!  I don't know what we'd do without you!"

 

I'm guessing    what you'd do is    figure out how to do it yourself     or else not do it    at all.     

 

All that praise like that says to me is that we've gotten to a point as a society where just doing the minimum activity required     to be considered   competent    has become a damned      milestone.      If you actually    DO YOUR JOB -- the job you were hired to do,  and are expected to do -- it's cause for celebration.    How pathetic is that?   

 

And that's just in the workplace.  How about in the home?   While it's nice   and rewarding   when strangers    compliment a parent on how well-behaved their children   are,   isn't it less a testament to how good a parent they are and more a testament to how BAD a parent     someone    else is?      "Children should be seen and not heard" isn't just some stuffy Victorian era social expectation; it's basic courtesy that   a   parent keep their child from   acting out in a setting where such behavior is unacceptable.     Why is it that we feel okay about complimenting someone on the good behavior of their children, but we feel uncomfortable    remarking to someone else about the poor behavior of THEIR children?    The former should go without saying;   it's the latter that should draw   attention.

69 #24

Maddow neglected to mention that the dam project started in the private sector and was only taken over by the government after FDR's policies wreaked so much economic damage that the funding stalled.

Also, in general it wasn't especially complex. Just physically very large. Countless construction projects of much greater complexity have been executed in the private sector all along. The Empire State Building, for example, is arguably a far more complex object and project.

70 Keep an eye on your kiddies. The Ambert Alert system is shut down.

71 I don't think I have ever seen a live banning. They must all happen during football or late at night.

72 Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 07, 2013 08:54 AM (Hh4B5)

Ace's blog....Ace's rules.

73 So Flatbush Joe can bitch about every fucking thing we talk about and others get run but dagny and Miss Marple say some relatively innocuous things and get insulted and placed in the sidebar? Yeah that makes sense... Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 07, 2013 08:54 AM (Hh4B5) And who ever told you life was fair?

74 The former should go without saying; it's the latter that should draw attention. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 07, 2013 08:55 AM (4df7R) Good points all. When good work and good behavior becomes exceptional one can only assume that bad work and bad behavior has become the norm.

75 Posted by: Lincolntf at October 07, 2013 08:57 AM (ZshNr)

The ban hammer had just come out of the shop after an overhaul.

There was blood everywhere!

76 And the corollary to that is "if you CAN'T work, you don't eat."

So, until you can convince enough folks to throw granny to the wolves when she gets to old to fend for herself, then you'll have to fume alone about those who you feel are superfluous to requirements and the oh so exorbitant cost you must bear to allow them to live. (which is what? A dollar? Two? Scrooge Monty to the rescue for all those with iron hearts and tiny souls)

Oh and don't bring up the strawman about how those who want granny to live should pay for granny to live as that already happens. What I mean by granny is someone else's granny who's family is dead or unable to provide for her. In your world, somehow, being unable to predict the future and/or unable to reach financial security is solely the fault of the person's laziness or indolence and never ever caused by any outside circumstances.

I've asked before but you for some reason never answer; what is YOUR past history as far as family support? What is your current status and how did you reach it? How would others without your advantages be able to reach the same place?

It's known fact that we're not all the same. We may have equal rights but we don't have equal abilities. Somehow, you've come to the conclusion that those who have less ability than you have less value and as such can be disregarded, discarded and should be left to die for their inabilities or mistakes.

That's not civilized nor is it in societies best interest. (neither is full on socialism but compromise doesn't seem to be in your lexicon when you write these screeds.

77 While it's nice and rewarding when strangers compliment a parent on how well-behaved their children are, isn't it less a testament to how good a parent they are and more a testament to how BAD a parent someone else is? Oh, Gawd yes. I actually get uncomfortable when people compliment my kids' behavior. I'm sitting there thinking, "Huh? Did you see the fight I had to have with him just to get him to sit down on the bench instead of on (or under) the table?" And *then* I notice all the other kids who are being little terrors.

78 59 "We Gen-Xers" spoiled rotten eggs

79

With every bit of respect to AllenG, Barack Obama is a Shutdown Clusterfuck Of A Malignant Tyrant.

 

I'm waiting for the tarps to be draped over the memorials and "No Tresspassing - Use of Deadly Force Authorized" signs hung. Teh SCOAMT wants a repeat of the Bonus Army Battle, even though he's too stupid to realize that the public reaction to that was only a benefit to the Rats because they weren't in power, not because they were Rats.

80 The ban hammer had just come out of the shop after an overhaul. There was blood everywhere! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 07, 2013 08:58 AM (/kU/5) I always miss the excitement. Hey did everyone get home ok the other night. Especially one person I was worried about?

81 "Taking care of each other" turns that around. If I fail to "help" someone else, then I am in their debt.

I hate the shit out of "doing a charity thing" being called "paying back" or "giving back."  I haven't taken anything from kids with cancer; I'm not paying any debt or restoring any wrong I've done by participating in office fundraisers for the local children's hospital.  I'm just doing a nice thing with some spare time and dollars.

82 Jesus never suggested that I owe it to the poor or the infirm to help them. Rather that those acts of mercy are among the things required to gain entry into Heaven. And I'll leave it there cause: no theological debate this early. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 07, 2013 08:47 AM (/PCJa) I'll help out. For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.” (2 Thessalonians 3:10 NIV) The Bible is all about helping widows and orphans. Still 1 Timothy 5 talks about widows' families helping them out first before coming to the church for help. Young widows were supposed to get remarried so as not to depend on the charity of others. Older widows would be given help only if they had proved to be women of character in the past. In the Mosaic law people were supposed to go through their fields during harvest only once so that widows orphans and other poor people could pick the leftovers. But as my dear mother said, they actually had to get off their butts and do something. (She didn't use the word butts.)

83 Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 07, 2013 08:54 AM (Hh4B5) The best comment I read during that time was, "and Curious remains."

84 Fartbush Joe is a little bitch who got sand in his box and had to let everyone know just how sore it was. So now we have to watch what we say.

That's awesome.

85 But Rachel Maddow did a commercial at Hoover Dam to remind us all how govt does Big Things alla time!

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 07, 2013 08:38 AM (3ZtZW)

-------- ------ -------- --------- -----

But in the real world, away from presidential speeches or Maddow's talk show, the Department of the Interior says no dams will  be built in the US, ever, and  certainly  not   on Obama's watch.

 

The  can-do spirit  and  progressive  rhetorical flourishes  meet the hammer of bureaucracy.  

86 Posted by: Kill the Old at October 07, 2013 08:58 AM (lAZep) Straw Man Down! Send the Fire Department, STAT! We might still save... Nevermind. He's gone.

87 the president is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure

88 Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2013 08:59 AM (1RQeV)

Just one?

Yes.

89 68 All that praise like that says to me is that we've gotten to a point as a society where just doing the minimum activity required to be considered competent has become a damned milestone. Yeah. I remember a certain sport when I was growing up - ONLY the best 11 got to get on the field. That often didn't include me when I started. That really pissed me off. I got a lot better. Faster. Smarter. Stronger. Afterwards, I was *always* one of those 11. You couldn't get me off the field. Today, everyone's a winner. Everyone gets to play. Woot! What a nation of pussies. Won the cold war...lol. Yeah. Thanks, progressives.

90 By the way, I had this conversation with my pastor yesterday.

91 Americans must be "incentivized" to do the necessary

I got 3 out of 5, where is my trophy?

92 Speaking of DOOM: https://twitter.com/TucsonNewsNow/status/387060506840035328/photo/1 http://tiny.cc/4glk4w Be very afraid.

93 Today, everyone's a winner. Everyone gets to play. Woot! What a nation of pussies. Won the cold war...lol. Yeah. Thanks, progressives. Posted by: akula51 at October 07, 2013 09:01 AM (4p5/2) I blame soccer.

94

Posted by: Kill the Old at October 07, 2013 08:58 AM (lAZep)

 

And you accuse US of    burning strawmen?

95 Posted by: steveegg at October 07, 2013 08:59 AM (o44nj) Oh, yes. He wants violence. He thinks that the Kent State Massacre was a good thing. More important to him (at the moment, at least- that may change) is that *we* start the fighting. Then he can put on a martyred expression and say, "It is with a heavy heart..."

96 'because when everybody is super...nobody is'

97 Just one? Yes. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 07, 2013 09:01 AM (/kU/5) She seemed a little tipsy and actually fell on the floor. The one that had a small confrontation with a police chief in her town

98 Very inspiring words. What a blessing of a mother. You are a blessing,Monty. Thks.

99 Weirdave thanks for the freak out before tea!


alex tea.

100 But as my dear mother said, they actually had to get off their butts and do something. (She didn't use the word butts.) She said "hinneys" or something similar, didn't she? (That's the language my mom uses).

101 She said "hinneys" or something similar, didn't she? (That's the language my mom uses). Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 07, 2013 09:04 AM (/PCJa) Mine said, "Fanny Perpendicular."

102 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 07, 2013 08:55 AM (4df7R)

I was on a train a few days ago (going to the moron meet-up) and there was a mother with her teen-aged son sitting behind me. he was obviously autistic, and being a bit difficult, but she was enforcing normal rules of behavior.

If she can do it, anyone can do it.

103 #68 MWR...so right about the obnoxious behavior of a lot of children in public places these days. My Dad was very strict about that and at the time I wondered why he was so adamant about it. Now, after being unable to enjoy a meal because someone's kid(s) was screaming, crying, kicking, or throwing things, I sigh and remember how wise he was. Also, Amen to the effusive praise for simple competence being out of control. Join Special Snowflakes United if you need a certificate for every thing.

104 NPR Laughably Claims Tingles Is Non-PartisanÂ… Weasel Zippers: And how much does the US Gov give them?

105 Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2013 09:03 AM (1RQeV)

Everyone survived the night!

106

Why not pay off the national, state and other public debt along with all recorded private debt?

 

One shot.  Clean slate.

 

It could be just the reset needed to fuel a few hundred years of global prosperity.

 

 

107

Straw Man Down!

Send the Fire Department, STAT! We might still save...

 

Nevermind. He's gone.

 

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 07, 2013 09:00 AM (/PCJa)

 

The straw, the straw, the strawman is on fire.

We don't need no water, let the motherfucker burn.

Pour gas on the fucker, BURN!

108 The Bible is all about helping widows and orphans.

I also hate the shit out of proggs and fymynysts conflating "women who make lots of babies without even considering being married to their fathers" with "widows with children" all into "single mothers", to hijack the urge people have to help women who have found themselves in a tough situation through no fault of their own and use it to further the destruction of the social order.

I'm just all hatey this morning.

109

Burn baby burn

straw man inferno

burn baby burn

burn that mother down.

110 #83 Curious: the slightly less feminine Jeff B. What an asylum. Has EoJ vanished?

111 I watched Cruz spank Candy Crowley yesterday( sorry for the mental image!), and I seriously thought: I hope that this man is well guarded and protected. I truly fear for him.

112

"....but the blame ultimately lies with the people who voted for him."

 

 

I feel that way about what's happened to our healthcare, and all our fading freedoms, really.     I blame the voters - my neighbors and co-workers and family who have voted for these power-hungry liars.

 

113 Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at October 07, 2013 08:59 AM (r+7wo)

"The Gleaners"
Millet -- 1857

http://tinyurl.com/mnpsteb

114 Pyro sock off (before I forget or I get a hotfoot, whichever comes first).

115 Point of clarification. Flatbush Joe did not get anyone run out of town, to my knowledge. He just complained.

116 I cannot speak for everyone here of course. I don't think many people have an issue with helping take care of those that Truly aren't able to take care of themselves, old, infirm etc ..

1. I think the issue is with coercion by the govt to take care of people that are perfectly able to assist in their own support and futures stepping into society as a fruitful citizen for their OWN good and personal security in their own personal  abilities  .. To not have govt shelter able people to think survival Is only possible with the govt paying for your survival Long Term or indefinitely  . It does harm somes ability to find  personal survivability skills for themselves and their children. which I think is abusive  and damaging to that person and family.

only my opinion.

117 Monty, I am reminded from what you said on this saying. I don't know where it came from originally, but it hangs up on a poster on my wall: "People are often unreasonable, illogical and self centered. Love them anyway. If you are kind people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives. Be kind anyway. If you are successful you will win some false friends and some true enemies. Succeed anyway.If you are honest and frank people may cheat you. Be honest and frank anyway. What you spend years building someone could destroy overnight. Build anyway. If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous. Be happy anyway, The good you do today people will often be forgotten tomorrow. Do good anyway. Give to the world the best you've got and it may never be enough. Give to the world the best you've got anyway. You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and God. It was never between you and them anyway."

118 Tornado warning in the 'hood. Northern NC- Western/Central VA, not my County but close enough that the Alerts are interrupting my radio/TV broadcasts. Warm and pouring rain right now.

119

This does look like fun. Risky fun, but fun.

http://tinyurl.com/pnjpmjj

120 Speaking of doom, I see that now in the land of fruits and nuts illegal aliens can practice law. So people whose very presence is an insult to the law are now charged with enforcing it. Next it'll be illegal alien judges. We'll need translators so the attorneys and jurors can have some idea what the judge is talking about.

121
LiveScience conducted a poll of an international group of scientists from a range of disciplines to determine what types of categories modern scientists feel are missing from the Nobel Prizes.

Foremost, many wondered why there is not a prize in mathematics. Tied in second place after mathematics were technology and social sciences. "The most obvious omission are all the social sciences," said Anthony Leiserowitz, director of the Yale Project on Climate Change. "The social sciences are vitally important in understanding human nature, the human condition and how to construct a more sustainable world."

http://tinyurl.com/nzn2toy



Social "Science" 

122 CENTENNIAL, Colo. — James Holmes is returning to court Monday for two weeks of hearings focusing on what evidence prosecutors can use against him in the Colorado theater shooting case. Holmes is charged with killing 12 people and injuring 70 others in 2012. He pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty. Some of the evidence in dispute comes from two dating websites, Match.com and AdultFriendFinder.com, where Holmes set up accounts before the shootings. Prosecutors say that in his website profiles, Holmes asked, “Will you visit me in prison?” Prosecutors say they plan to use that to show Holmes knew the shootings were wrong, undercutting his insanity plea. The judge has already rejected one defense attempt to suppress the website evidence. Trial is scheduled for next year. Oh yeah he must be a real catch?

123 100 But as my dear mother said, they actually had to get off their butts and do something. (She didn't use the word butts.) She said "hinneys" or something similar, didn't she? (That's the language my mom uses). Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est My Mom was a Master Sergeant in the old WAAC- before they became WACs. Enlisted after Pearl Harbor. Mustered out of Caspar, Wyoming & came to the GA. coast "to see something I had never seen before- the Ocean." She was an Ohio coal-mining town farm girl. So naturally with all that she could blister paint when cussing was needed. She called 'em "fannies" in normal talk. Love you, Alice P- wherever you fetched up....

124 I support what Monty is saying, though he may not be saying what I am saying. He is saying that when the culture comes unmoored, it is on a glidepath to DOOM. Though I am more explicit - we are culturally abandoning God. Being religious is considered a bad thing. Boy Scouts and Chik-Fil-A are demonized. And there are plenty of FisCons who are okay with abandoning God, who spit on the SoCons, and just completely miss this. Breitbart said Politics is downstream of culture. I think a lot of people think that just means make some funny TV that is conservative and we are all set.

125

Heather,

thank you! I hate that too. I was a young widow with a 2yr old son. My biggest problem with that was reversed.... i.e.  the people who automatically assumed I was either divorced or never married in the first place.  They lumped me in with the welfare queens who breed for cash.  It was (and still is, even though I'm remarried) extremely offensive. 

The idiots who started that shit should have been bitch slapped.  A widow with children is not the same as a welfare breeder.

126 Thank you, willow. Shit, the Intertubes ate my long winded comment so tl;dr version is that I once got an employee of the month award for picking up the phone and telling someone that the person they needed was out of the country and they needed to call this other person and here's that person's number. Took me a minute, maybe, including where the hell did I put that number time. My response to getting the award was that I shouldn't have been rewarded for doing it, I should have been fired if I didn't. On the complimenting parents thing, I view it as an attempt to say thank you to someone doing a thankless job. Maybe it'll mean nothing. Maybe it'll make someone's day. But it takes me very little effort to do so I try to do it.

127

I've asked before but you for some reason never answer; what is YOUR past history as far as family support? What is your current status and how did you reach it? How would others without your advantages be able to reach the same place?

------------

 

My history is hard-bottom rural poor, but I won't bore you with the details. Suffice it to say that I can claim authentic white trailer-trash roots: our hovel was about a quarter-mile from the interstate, and it was years before I could get to sleep without the sound of big trucks droning by in the night.

As for how I got to where I am: a willingness to work hard. I'm smart, but not *that* smart. I'm lucky, but not *that* lucky. Really, the only thing I have going for me is a willingness to work, and do what is necessary to make a go of life. This principle has stood me in good stead all these years.

But if you want to believe that I am some Olympian superman from a long line of super-wealthy plutocrats, go ahead. You may also believe that I am devilishly handsome and a demon with the ladies. BECAUSE IT'S TOTALLY TRUE.

 

128

We'll need translators so the attorneys and jurors can have some idea what the judge is talking about.

 

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 07, 2013 09:15 AM (ee9LE)

 

That's why as part of building a new base we'll require Spanish be taught at every grade level.

129 Odd, s18.postimg.org was taking forever to load, locking out the comment box while it did so.

130 If she can do it, anyone can do it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 07, 2013 09:05 AM (/kU/5)

 

EXACTLY.  And in cases like that it's understood by everyone that the child is not necessarily acting out because s/he is misbehaving, so some leeway is allowed.  But   as with that mother, it is still incumbent upon the parent to try and keep their child under control.    

 

You must   adapt your behavior to the environment in which you find yourself; you mustn't expect the environment to adapt to YOU.     You don't build an   igloo in the Everglades    even if you've always wanted to live in an igloo,   and you don't throw basic social    and work     conventions out the window    even if    adhering to them is difficult.

131 ""The social sciences are vitally important in understanding human nature, the human condition and how to construct a more sustainable world.""


The creation of the Reevers.

Straight out of the movie "Serenity"

132

@121

"The social sciences are vitally important in understanding human nature, the human condition and how to construct a more sustainable world."

--------- ---------- ----------- ----------

 

Can anyone name even one example?  Seriously, I'm drawing a blank.   Physics and chemistry, not  things  I studied in school, I could rattle off examples all day.  

133 Tornado warning in the 'hood. Northern NC- Western/Central VA, not my County but close enough that the Alerts are interrupting my radio/TV broadcasts. Warm and pouring rain right now. Posted by: Lincolntf at October 07, 2013 09:14 AM (ZshNr) Tornado watch here until 5pm, hopefully it will stay a watch and not a warning. I hate high wind events.

134 More clarification. Flatbush Joe did not instigate the bannings. He just chimed in after Ace started talking about people needing to calm down. So please don't blame him for something he didn't do. I apologize to Flatbush Joe for inadvertently painting him as doing something he did not do.

135 You may also believe that I am devilishly handsome and a demon with the ladies. BECAUSE IT'S TOTALLY TRUE.

Posted by: Monty at October 07, 2013 09:17 AM (G8OwX)
sure -sure, But do you listen to the television at full blast, or worse , leave it on all night?

136 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 07, 2013 09:17 AM (4df7R) I have a daughter with a mild form of autism and as she gets older, she is better at controlling herself. However, when she was younger something like too much noise in a restaurant would set her off. I got up and ushered or carried her to the car while moma paid the check and got everything to go. My daughter, my responsibility. I shall not make her actions anothers problem.

137

Tornado warning in the 'hood. Northern NC- Western/Central VA, not my County but close enough that the Alerts are interrupting my radio/TV broadcasts. Warm and pouring rain right now.

 

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 07, 2013 09:14 AM (ZshNr)

 

If the sky turns green, get your ass underground.

138 George ClooneyÂ’s new girl dated Barry Bonds ??? No comment

139 Posted by: Citation X driver

Without fail, when I read this, I think "That's an unusual car to be a fan of and still own".

http://preview.tinyurl.com/lrjrcth

Then I recall that he actually flies a sweet jet for a living, and I cry a little.

140 The Bible is all about helping widows and orphans. *** Jesus was about free will. Barky is about coercion.

141 >>She said "hinneys" or something similar, didn't she? (That's the language my mom uses). Lol. African mothers don't say hineys. I just paraphrased what she said.

142 You may also believe that I am devilishly handsome and a demon with the ladies. BECAUSE IT'S TOTALLY TRUE. I BELIEVE.! I believe all the men here are that way and the women look like supermodels, just with more attractive flesh on their bones. ;^)

143 capt hate exactly...

144 "When you hear someone say "We all need to take care of each other", what they're really saying is "I want someone to take care of me". Socialism is the creed of the deluded, the lazy, the timid, the dull, and the inept. People who desire it are either children or adults with the minds of children. Socialism in whatever guise is not just a silly ideology; it’s an impossible ideology. It violates the principle of ex nihilo nihil fit (nothing comes from nothing). You cannot draw more energy out of a system than you put into it. Socialism whispers sweet nothings into the ears of the dullards, but reality speaks more bluntly: “If you don’t work, you don’t eat.” And reality always wins. Always." Monty, that is poetry.

145 Doom with Kaboom, it's what's for breakfast!

146 The community has been replaced by government. The community used to help the widows, disabled and those down on their luck. When these folks didn't act responsibly the community had some recourse. With this in mind, my main charity is my church. I have some say so. We have no recourse through the government for others bad behavior. Line up for that check. If you get it, you're set.

147 Oh yeah he must be a real catch? Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2013 09:16 AM (1RQeV) The orange hair reels them in

148 Jesus was about free will. Barky is about coercion. Posted by: WalrusRex at October 07, 2013 09:22 AM (ee9LE) So, when do you think they will trot out a new updated version of the bible to be used at the I'm OK your OK, Jesus in concert, feel good, there is no sin only love, blaxsploitation, mega churches? Maybe they'll call it the King Barack Version.

149 Here is an odd gentleman thing. When entering an elevator , man enters before women, just in case the extra weight sends the car plummeting down. Ladies exit first.

Posted by: Mbruce at October 07, 2013 08:31 AM (CjTV9)

-

A gentleman also leads going down a flight of stairs, to grab the lady if she should stumble, and allows her to go first when ascending.

150 Jesus never suggested that I owe it to the poor or the infirm to help them. Rather that those acts of mercy are among the things required to gain entry into Heaven. AllenG, I agree with the Good Samaritan. In my life, Dr. Leonard Barbarisi happened to be on call passing by. And he made all the difference, God bless him. Jews and Christians made a covenant with God and owe* God a 10% tithe as commanded, SPECIFICALLY designated for the widows and orphans (the destitute). James 1:27; Numbers 18:25-27. And those without silver and gold to donate for charity, remember Peter's contribution being that power which he did have, and shared. Acts 3:6 *Muslim charity obligation is 1/40th income (rather than 1/10th) and is designated to redistribute wealth to end poverty. If the petro-dollar Wahhabi Sunni Islamic nation of Saudi Arabia (and others with oil wealth) actually spent 1/40th annually to provide upward mobility of Muslims, there would be no poverty across the Arabian Peninsula, there would be no Muslim immigration seeking employment outside of the Middle East... But then, Wahhabi fundamentalists kill at will any who become literate and knowledgeable of the world, who do not conform to Wahhabi authoritarianism... Again, fault US Policy and interventionist ILLEGAL war that destroyed Libya. For whatever his sins, at least Gaddafi actually perpetuated the modernization of Libya, spending oil profits to provide a completely modern infrastructure, utilities, highways, hospitals, from grade schools through universities, JOBS, regardless of gender, womens rights to become literate and professionals in the workplace, ALL PAID FOR BY OIL PROFITS, note even by taxation. Obama's diplomacy never existed. Neither has his charity. What Obama embodies is the "all about me" brat/thug thieve who brutalizes little old people and infants first, whether abortion from the womb or eviction from Chicago public housing's Altgeld Garden for destitute black seniors. Anything for his own wealth alignment empowering organized crime.

151

>>>And the corollary to that is "if you CAN'T work, you don't eat."

 

Also can be found in your bud Chairman Mao's scribblings

152

"More clarification. Flatbush Joe did not instigate the bannings. He just chimed in after Ace started talking about people needing to calm down. So please don't blame him for something he didn't do."

 

 

Wait!  Were there more bannings?  Again?  What did I miss? 

 

 

153 A gentleman also leads going down a flight of stairs, to grab the lady if she should stumble, and allows her to go first when ascending.

So he can watch her butt. 

154 Madonna revealed this week she has been studying the Holy Quran, a practice which has come alongside her efforts to build girls’ schools in Islamic countries. “I am building schools for girls in Islamic countries and studying the Holy Quran. I think it is important to study all the holy books,” the U.S. pop icon said in an interview with Harper’s Bazaar published on Friday. Madonna added that she agrees with what one of her friends tell her; that a good Muslim is a good Jew, a good Jew is a good Christian, and so forth. The “Material Girl” recently got her fans talking after posting a picture on Facebook from a photo shoot in which she wore what looked like a chainmail niqab. The picture was accompanied by the words: “The Revolution of Love is on…Inshallah [Arabic for 'God willing'].” Speculations over the “Like a Prayer” singer’s interest in Islam have sparked in recent years after the star began dating Brahim Zaibat, a Muslim of Algerian descent Weasel Zippers: They can have her

155 16 Socialism works great for the elite in charge. Posted by: jwest at October 07, 2013 08:33 AM (u2a4R) Socialism evolves quickly into Feudalism, with the Authorities being the "lords" and the party bosses being the squires. It's literally that simple.

156 allows her to go first when ascending.

But that's mainly to check out her ...

Because of falling, because of the danger of falling.

157 Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer and a cheeseburger at October 07, 2013 09:09 AM (/kI1Q) Tell me about it. I also mentioned the single motherhood issue to my pastor yesterday. If you deliberately make the choice to produce children out of wedlock ( I don't care whether it was unplanned – sex produces babies) or if you decide to leave your husband to discover yourself are stuck with your kids, there is no pride in that. Your single motherhood is a shameful choice in that case, and don't expect me to sing your praises. It's another thing if you had to leave an abusive husband or your husband died or your husband left you.

158 132 @121 "The social sciences are vitally important in understanding human nature, the human condition and how to construct a more sustainable world." --------- ---------- ----------- ---------- Can anyone name even one example? Seriously, I'm drawing a blank. Physics and chemistry, not thingsI studied in school, I could rattle off examples all day. Posted by: Beagle at October 07, 2013 09:19 AM (sOtz/) History, it repeats. Understanding demographics and polling is an art, not sure i would call it vital.

159 runningrn this thread http://minx.cc/?post=343954 nyc parent using a sock

160 George ClooneyÂ’s new girl dated Barry Bonds My hunch, at his age, is George may be needing a different kind of performance enhancing drug than what Barry used. Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 07, 2013 09:24 AM (OWjjx) With all the steroids Bonds was doing, he needed them also.

161

Oh yeah he must be a real catch?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2013 09:16 AM (1RQeV)

 

The tendency of some people to    fall for      prisoners      will never cease to baffle me,   especially when the worst    crimes     seems to attract    the most    groupies.          Clownhair Psycho and Flashbang Schnoz are two recent examples.        I bet if    Limp Dick Babykiller had survived    after Sandy Hook he'd be fielding marriage proposals left, right and center.

 

Just WTF.

162

Oh and don't bring up the strawman about how those who want granny to live should pay for granny to live as that already happens. What I mean by granny is someone else's granny who's family is dead or unable to provide for her. In your world, somehow, being unable to predict the future and/or unable to reach financial security is solely the fault of the person's laziness or indolence and never ever caused by any outside circumstances.

 

In your world, it is somehow our fault that bad things happen to people.  Why are we to be culpable for that?

 

If it worries you, you should pay for the granny you don't know.  Confiscating other people's money to do so doesn't make you a good person.  It makes you an asshole.

 

Let people choose to help each other, and you will be surprised by the results.  Force them, and you will have a bankrupt system where apathetic people think it is the government's problem.

163 Flatbush Joe thinks Ogabeism is a cold that will pass... I think it is Ebola and is gonna kill the village Posted by: Sven10077 at October 07, 2013 08:47 AM (9jfyN) I'm inclined to think that as well, especially if this Obamacare thing gets rooted into the soil here. At best, it is a serious disease that has a damn good chance of killing us, and if we survive it, we will be damn lucky.

164

A gentleman also leads going down a flight of stairs, to grab the lady if she should stumble, and allows her to go first when ascending."

 

 

Well, that's exactly how my momma raised me--to be a gentleman!

165 Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid thinks Democrats are treated unfairly by the traditional media as the government shutdown fight continues. “You and other journalists have a real shortcoming in that you are trying so hard to be fair that you are unfair,” Reid said in an interview published Monday in Politico. “Democrats have had almost nothing to do with the problems here. It’s all Republicans,” Reid said. The Nevada Democrat also confirmed that he would be running for re-election in 2016. ???? They really do live in another Universe

166 Rachel Maddow at Hoover Dam. There is a great joke in there somewhere. Posted by: Case Uh...she didn't build that?

167 "“If you don’t work, you don’t eat.”" Which is what Lenin said. I dunno. Me thinks you have this stereotype of Socialism.

168
Wait! Were there more bannings? Again? What did I miss?
Posted by: runningrn




Honeypot in a golf thread.

Not something you see everyday.

169 I dunno.

That much is abundantly clear.

170

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 07, 2013 09:29 AM (8JJ6O)

 

Thanks! 

171 Oh great tornado watch in NJ today also. Any high winds and I lose power here at my Office

172 We have no recourse through the government for others bad behavior. Line up for that check. If you get it, you're set. Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 07, 2013 09:25 AM (WaCPR) LBJ killed us. To be sure, he merely thought he was getting some short term political gain, but in fact, he let loose a disease upon us that will not be easily eradicated.

173 If there was any doubt remaining that's Candy Crowley is a big fat hack – even after her performance at the debates – then the Cruz interview put that to rest. I love how that tea party monster Cruz patiently and politely answered all her hacktastic questions and demolished all her false premises. He refused to let her move on when she didn't want him to provide a good answer. It was so obvious she wasn't even listening to his answers. She just wanted to ask questions and then move on. GOP people going on TV should take a page from Ted Cruz's play book

174 So he can watch her butt. No one said there weren't perks.

175

Rachel Maddow at Hoover Dam.

There is a great joke in there somewhere.

Posted by: Case 
 

 

 

Something about    fitting two dykes in one frame?

 

I denounce myself     most   severely.

176

WRT letting unknown Grannies die:

 

Its what the Eskimos did to their *own* grannies, and voluntarily at that. Who are we to question the wisdom of the First Peoples? They were near to Teh Erf, yoo know. And had no Global Warmening

177

Confiscate money from a future granny to pump it through an expensive bureaucracy to give to another granny in a poorly-funded Ponzi scheme filled with  worthless  IOUs and tens of trillions in outstanding liabilities.

 

What could go wrong?

 

One really good thing about rich people: I don't have to take care of them.  Of course we do all pay for their solar panels,  electric cars, and flood insurance on the beach house,  but at least I don't have to feed and clothe them as well.  

178 So he can watch her butt.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer and a cheeseburger at October 07, 2013 09:28 AM (/kI1Q)

 

We love to watch her strut.

We do respect her butt...

We love to watch her strut.

179 The "Root of Doom" is beyond the mere economic. It is comparable to living in a neighborhood that is going to seed, getting worse every year. And the momentum of it "getting worse" can't be reversed. When the societal economics have become so corrupted, people honestly don't know any better. If you remember "better" (and many do), then you are branded a reactionary, thug, old white person, etc. I wouldn't say the past was unqualified "better", but it seemed we were going in the right direction. Now, not so much. And maybe that is just the consequence of being human, and we're stuck with it. This may be as good as it gets

180 134 Chique D' Afrique,

He does constantly bitch about people being pissed and seeing the end game for SCOAMFyvision though...

let's not quibble over that nor the fact he loves bannings.

181

If you don't work you don't eat was 2 Thessalonians 3 10-13.

182

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2013 09:31 AM (1RQeV)

 

Just a case of a pimp giving the pimp hand to his presstitute organs.

183 #169 The stereotype that it doesn't work?

184
Flatbush Joe did not instigate the bannings. He just chimed in after Ace started talking about people needing to calm down.
Posted by: chique d'afrique,



Let the reader judge.

http://tinyurl.com/kpcfy5a

185 153 Bibgy's Typing Hands,

Quite...it takes a dullard or a moonbat to think "we'll just take the good from Communism and it'll all work out."

There is no good in communism because the evil is baked in the cake.

186 Best of joyous moments to backhoe & Crazy Cat Lady of the Island, however many moments you get together. Doggone you; I read your comment to the Mindful Mrs & she wept. Had a bit of trouble reading it through aloud, m'self, darn allergies.

187

>>>If you don't work you don't eat was 2 Thessalonians 3 10-13.

 

No way Jesus was Teh Socialist, you bastid

188

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid thinks Democrats are treated unfairly by the traditional media as the government shutdown fight continues.

 

FFS.   How did      Hairy Reed's    mouth not form a     singularity     of    self-absorbed    smarm       after saying something that    ridiculous?    I for one would pay money to see that smooth-bottomed pederast get    pancaked by    a black hole of his own making.

189 Speculations over the “Like a Prayer” singer’s interest in Islam have sparked in recent years after the star began dating Brahim Zaibat, a Muslim of Algerian descent Weasel Zippers: They can have her Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2013 09:28 AM (1RQeV) Oh God yes! She is an Embarrassment to any religion which she claims.

190 Something about fitting two dykes in one frame?

I denounce myself most severely.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 07, 2013 09:34 AM (4df7R)

 

Coffee through the nose. Nicely done.

191 The weed of government largesse chokes the flower of charity.


And when the field is full of weeds you have nothing else.

192 Just WTF. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 07, 2013 09:30 AM"


Seriously.  Did you hear the early morning whackjobs on Friday trying to defend Speedbump on Kuhner's show?  Wow...the crazy is strong with them.

193 It seems to me that people have forgotten how to "use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without".   They expect everything to be shiny and new always. If it breaks, don't fix it, throw it out and get a new one.  Does anyone patch the knees of a kids jeans anymore?  I do. But then again I use old shirts to make cloth napkins.  Most people just throw stuff away and get something new just because an item is outdated.  And  "do without"?  yeh, not going to happen.

194 It's another thing if you had to leave an abusive husband or your husband died or your husband left you. Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at October 07, 2013 09:29 AM (r+7wo) Agree. Beyond that, I think the option of Government support renders the likelihood of a bad marriage or no marriage at all, more probable.

195 I wasn't convinced that all of this DOOM was real until I read Maureen Dowd's dystopian epic.  Looks like Monty is gonna have to step up his game.

196

190 I didn't say that. Some Commie took Credit for something he didn't write.

197 199 John Smith said it also.

198 156. Nevergiveup "Madonna revealed this week she has been studying the Holy Quran, a practice which has come alongside her efforts to build girlsÂ’ schools in Islamic countries." She's setting whichever girls attend schools that she sponsors up for torture and death. So what precautions is Madonna taking on behalf of the girls she would educate? Which "Islamic" countries have zero tolerance for males that throw acid in the face of little girls, rape girls for reading, or bomb girl schools? Has she at least considered SILENTLY sponsoring boarding schools for Muslim girls outside of fundamentalist territory, even in "free" nations? As is, to the degree that they sense their public image disappearing into oblivion, she and Oprah make their "charity" a public issue, and plan to profit from their "charity" spending more donations on themselves than on the charity case girls.

199 The role of Gov and the role of the church are to be different.  My tithes send missionaries to Somalia, my taxes send Marines.  I really don't have a problem with either.

200 Headlines thread up!   *saddles up horse for willow*  Come on down!

201 NOT headlines; I mean the dump of course.   Stupid mondays.

202 The tendency of some people to fall for prisoners will never cease to baffle me, especially when the worst crimes seems to attract the most groupies. Clownhair Psycho and Flashbang Schnoz are two recent examples. I bet if Limp Dick Babykiller had survived after Sandy Hook he'd be fielding marriage proposals left, right and center. Just WTF. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 07, 2013 09:30 AM (4df7R) I've pondered this. Best as I can determine, it is probably because the characteristics which make a man powerful in a human community is the willingness and ability to murder people in cold blood. This is how Kings are made, and women instinctively know this. Their great desire in life is to be mated to a rich powerful man. The Rich part is cognitive, but the Powerful part is instinctive.

203 189 Best of joyous moments to backhoe & Crazy Cat Lady of the Island, however many moments you get together.... Posted by: mindful webworker I thank you for your kindly wishes. She is still mired in messes her husband saddled her with. And she's an Islander & I'm on the mainland. "She lived on the Morning side of the mountain, he lived on the twilite side of the hill" sort of thing. But? I like her a lot- she's a good girl. So? We'll see where it goes.

204 Let people choose to help each other, and you will be surprised by the results. Force them, and you will have a bankrupt system where apathetic people think it is the government's problem. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 07, 2013 09:30 AM (TpXEI) The reason these arguments don't persuade is that they are cognitive, not emotional. Among irrational people, Emotion always wins over reason.

205 da dump

206 If we have to live with it, then shouldn't welive with the Dred Scott Decision, the separate but equal doctrine, Prohibition, and only men having the right to vote? Posted by: Marybeth at October 07, 2013 08:40 AM (zFUKI) Prohibition was an amendment that was repealed. Prohibition was also broadly ignored and resulted in the rise of criminal gangs, so, yeah, the people at the time chose not to live with it - first by breaking the law, and later by repealing it. It was, however, passed as a result of allowing women to vote. As a result, I'm kind of on the fence about giving women the vote. It seems a great deal of our current problems can be traced back to that. Like it or not, women IN GENERAL are much more pliable to marketing and emotional ploys like 'if it saves even one child', and being 'social' creatures, seeing the need 'taking care of' others. That is how Prohibition was passed. Personally, I'm all for only NET federal taxpayers having a vote at the federal level. If your net tax burden is 0 or less, you have no vote. Same at the state and local level.

207 History, it repeats. Understanding demographics and polling is an art, not sure i would call it vital.

Posted by: Jean at October 07, 2013 09:29 AM (CMlD4)

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History is not a   nitpicky social science, but it falls under the umbrella sometimes.     Polling  is more about statistics which is applied math.   Some humanities I think are useful.   

 

Economics and anthropology, classic social sciences, some good work gets done.  Just nothing which alters the life of our species like fracking, finding the Higgs-boson, or drive-thru restaurants.   "Wow, that political science  professor  saved a  lot  of children with his groundbreaking article," nobody said ever.     

208 Honeypot in a golf thread. Not something you see everyday. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 07, 2013 09:32 AM (kdS6q) Why was "Honeypot" banned? And in a golf thread?

209 127 Monty! lol hey, along with your willingness to work diligently towards "success", YOU READ!

210 I was at my Sons High School Basketball Shoot out this weekend and had the luxury to sit with 5 generations of a family.  Baby was about 6 months old and her Momma was no more than 18, and pregnant again.  Baby's Grandmother was no more than late 30's.  Baby's Great Grandma was a woman maybe just a bit older than me (Early 50's).  Baby's Great Great Grandma was a woman that was maybe 70.  The younger ladies had all of the swag and body art that you would expect them to have and no visible male support.  The was that they were talking I am pretty sure that they are not encumbered with a man.  I didn't know what to feel.  It just seemed so wrong.

211 It was so obvious she wasn't even listening to his answers. She just wanted to ask questions and then move on. GOP people going on TV should take a page from Ted Cruz's play book Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at October 07, 2013 09:34 AM (r+7wo) It is events such as these which lead me to have the desire to Punch "journalists" in the mouth for their efforts at deliberate propaganda. I'm tired of the charade. They want to make us enemies? We should treat them like enemies.

212

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure.  It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills.  It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies.  Increasing America 's debt weakens us domestically and internationally.  Leadership means that, 'the buck stops here.'  Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren.  America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.  Americans deserve better." Barrycade Obama March 2006

213

Madonna revealed this week she has been studying the Holy Quran

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I can't wait to see how this turns out.  Don't stop before you get to Suras Eight and Nine. 

 

Amazing how Islam gets powerful people to do their dawah for them.   David Cameron should be an imam by now.   

214 "Part of the reason people aren't rushing for the exits is that the comedy they are watching is so horribly fascinating."

The other part is that they cannot find any exits.

215

"If you don’t work, you don’t eat.”

 

I always change the wording on that quote:

 

"If you don't work, there won't be anything to eat."

216 She's setting whichever girls attend schools that she sponsors up for torture and death. Posted by: panzernashorn at October 07, 2013 09:43 AM (MhA4j) Madonna is an idiot that had some talent in singing, song writing and dancing. Her skill set is no match at all for the world beyond the entertainment stage. We are suffering from far too many of such fools nowadays.

217 You can't have any pudding if you don't eat your meat.

218 175 GOP people going on TV should take a page from Ted Cruz's play book Very good stuff, yes.

219 215  Posted by: DefendUSA at October 07, 2013 09:51 AM (S0aj


Foreign countries have not been buying our debt for years.  When we cranked up the printing presses with Obama they quit buying.  Now the fed buys the debt from the treasury.  IOW we are monetizing the debt and on the road to collapse just like Argentina.

220 "It was, however, passed as a result of allowing women to vote. As a result, I'm kind of on the fence about giving women the vote. It seems a great deal of our current problems can be traced back to that. Like it or not, women IN GENERAL are much more pliable to marketing and emotional ploys like 'if it saves even one child', and being 'social' creatures, seeing the need 'taking care of' others." Make it contingent upon the payment of (individual) taxes and most problems solve themselves. No Representation without taxation! That is how Prohibition was passed. Prohibition was the 18th amendment. Women's Votes was the 19th amendment. "Personally, I'm all for only NET federal taxpayers having a vote at the federal level. If your net tax burden is 0 or less, you have no vote. Same at the state and local level. Posted by: blindside at October 07, 2013 09:47 AM (WzWmY) Amen. This is absolutely necessary so as to create a negative feedback system to make it stable. People able to vote without having to pay taxes creates no pressure to oppose tax increases. The last three words of the 24th amendment were sheer idiocy.

221 48 But compelling other poeple to help people is not helping people. Posted by: blaster at October 07, 2013 08:39 AM (W6bkf) Exactly. I don't know why grocery stores have decided to get into schilling for different charities but that pisses me off. "Would you like to donate to the dying children's fund?" Right in front of a line of shoppers. I don't appreciate using the shame card. I say clearly, "No I would not." Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 07, 2013 08:48 AM (XIxXP) They're taking a page of GE's playbook in increasing their margins cheaply on the back end, by fundraising. -They hit however many up in collecting dollars for whatever. -They take dollars. -They cut their own check to whomever they were raising, in the amount of dollars accumulated. -They file receipt and claim charitable deduction without front cost of any charity. You may decide for yourself how virtuous this is, but it's not "exactly" similarly compulsion.

222 We, as a society, are running up enormous debts and laying the burden of repayment on our children and grandchildren. They will be fully justified if they repudiate this debt.

Are we justified in repudiating the debt our parents and grandparents ran up?

Intended as a real question, not snark.  At what point on the national timeline does repudiation become justified?

I don't believe that I am justified in abandoning WW2 debts, but I'd walk away from New Deal debts without a second thought. 

223 GOP people going on TV should take a page from Ted Cruz's play book Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at October 07, 2013 09:34 AM (r+7wo) Absolutely. Cruz KNOWS the research and his honed arguments before he takes the floor or the microphone. All Candy had were foolish and deceitful talking point to keep jamming airwaves. And even there, OF COURSE SHE LOST! She was talking over him, and he was not letting her phase him one bit. Every stupid thing she said he politely, stunningly volleyed truth between her eyes. Whether going into a conference meeting, on a phone call, wherever, come prepared with the whole enchilada, know your position and stay on point.

224 Intended as a real question, not snark. At what point on the national timeline does repudiation become justified? I don't believe that I am justified in abandoning WW2 debts, but I'd walk away from New Deal debts without a second thought. Posted by: Troll Feeder at October 07, 2013 10:03 AM (qxPIS) Corruption of Blood and Familial Indebtedness are bits of English Common Law which we through out when we created this country. I see no reason whatsoever to conclude that the Children must pay for the sins of their fathers.

225 "It often seems to me that many Americans must be "incentivized" to do the necessary: to have children, to get married, to vote, to save money, even to work for a living." I don't expect to be rewarded. I'd settle for not being punished.

226 "We, as a society, are running up enormous debts and laying the burden of repayment on our children and grandchildren. They will be fully justified if they repudiate this debt."

They would be, but by the time they're old enough to contemplate this, they'll be thoroughly co-opted. Would they then be willing to cast off all the benefits of that spending as well? All the entitlements? I bet not.  Need evidence? What's the current generation doing with the debt WE inherited? Spending more! WooHoo!

227

Monty--
Your words resonate with me:"Perhaps the deepest lesson my mom taught me is this: my "reward" for sheltering someone from the rain with my jacket might be nothing but a wet coat. It doesn't matter if the other person rewards me, or even acknowledges the gesture. In the end, I'm not doing it for them. I'm doing it because it's the right thing to do." 

We recently had our 30 year HS reunion. One of our classmates sadly reaped what he had sown throughout high school. In his effort to reconnect with his classmates (he did graduate)he was arrested for trespassing at the HS and although he is homeless, found a way to be there.

The classmates who managed not to mature were surely making fun of his dress of plaid shorts, prints with boots and a leather jacket. They ridiculed him behind his back and in a place he could not defend himself.

To me and those who get it, it was a miracle that he was still alive. I admonished them for their childish ways and let them know that kindness costs nothing and that helping him would have been more rewarding.

My grandpa sold Knights of Columbus insurance. He often came home without the coat he had worn when he left. When my Gram would say, 'Oh Rock! Again?" He would pull his morning newspaper from under his shirt that had insulated him for the rest of the day and reply, "I drive and move from out to in. Someone needed my coat more than I did. What's a newspaper good for?" And he would kiss her and move on.

228 Really nice post. Thanks Monty.

229 PeopleMajorities in democracies get the government they deserve. FIFY

230 Think Obamacare IT can work?

You have something else coming...

http://tinyurl.com/EHRscrewups

231 I know a bunch of Democrat LIV's that are freaking out about this.  BIG time. They don't have the money, and have now realized that gee, free isn't free, and I don't have $600 or $800 a year more to spend on this.

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