1 So this is bad news?

2 Nothing starts the week like a dose of DOOOOM from Monty!

3 Ahhhh.... Doom! Luvs it. Life's funny. At times I have made as much, & had as much, money as any of the storied people around my little burg. Now? To mangle a metaphor & Dean Martin's "Houston?" I'm so poor when I walk my church mice squeak. Know what? I simply do not care, anymore.... LIB.

4 It really comes as no surprise to me that the drones can't even get a $100 bill right. The good ship America is captained and crewed by idiots.

5 I'm with backhoe, I care not anymore as well.

6 Regarding the government " estimates" of inflation, those books have been cooked to the point of approaching charcoal!

7

>>>who thinks that this mind-boggling sum will ever be repaid in full?

 

What will be the effects of a global default? I figure it all lasts as long as everybody continues to pretend, but someone will default and then its a race for everyone to do the same.

8 Monty,

China will be moderately successful because of productivity gains (manual labor ---> mechanized = huge gain) and their longer work week.

But we shouldn't be looking over our shoulders quite yet.

9

 >>>>Chinese history is basically a long, sad tale of China almost succeeding and then finding ways to fail

 

Natural Conservatives!

10 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

11 5 I'm with backhoe, I care not anymore as well. Posted by: Bayou City I had that jet-set "lifestyle" with my first dead wife- jewels & gems, fur coats & flying everywhere. House on the west coast. It was nice. It was also more trouble than it was worth. Emily & I lived in what I call "genteel poverty." Nice house, but hardly any money. I just don't care, anymore. I'll get by.

12 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

13 The thing about China that worries me is that at least part of their commie bureaucracy is playing a long games by securing footholds throughout the world and buying access to necessary natural resources as well. Our incompetent bureaucracy only manages to alienate our best allies!

14 12 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est Hey! Don't forget me!

15 The thing about China that worries me is that at least part of their commie bureaucracy is playing a long games by securing footholds throughout the world and buying access to necessary natural resources as well. That doesn't matter; we can have far better than mere "footholds." In fact, we could virtually monopolize the supply of some things. Our incompetent bureaucracy only manages to alienate our best allies! Oh. What I said before? Forget it.

16

 >>>In fact, we could virtually monopolize the supply of some things.

 

Such as?

17 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 19, 2013 08:32 AM (/PCJa) I notice you used "can" and " could", not "will"!

18 In fact, we could virtually monopolize the supply of some things. Pretty well anything, if we set our minds to it, short of oil and (I think) chromium. Of course, the point was it was a joke. A riff on "this wouldn't be a problem if we had competent leaders- but we don't have competent leaders."

19 We do have a monopoly on incompetant leaders.

20 Creating wealth is just as much a personal choice as golfing 6 times in 8 days.

21 >>>In fact, we could virtually monopolize the supply of some things. Such as? Posted by: Bigby's OTOH at August 19, 2013 08:34 AM (3ZtZW) useful idiots?

22 The thing about China that worries me is that at least part of their commie bureaucracy is playing a long games by securing footholds throughout the world and buying access to necessary natural resources as well. Our incompetent bureaucracy only manages to alienate our best allies!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 19, 2013 08:30 AM (XdnQT)
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They've also been conducting joint naval and military exercises with the Soviets Russians- which I find very unnerving.  With good reason we expended a lot of effort to keep those two forces at each others throats throughout the latter half of the 20th century and their new found friendship does not bode well for us.

23 >>>In fact, we could virtually monopolize the supply of some things. Such as? Posted by: Bigby's OTOH at August 19, 2013 08:34 AM (3ZtZW) Kardashians.

24

>>useful idiots?

 

Idiocy is a fungible resource

25 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 19, 2013 08:35 AM (/PCJa Far too early in the morning (and the coffee cycle) to be so subtle! Based on our demonstrated ability to pick only the best candidates for high office, I have little hope for the future!

26 Ms. BC will find out today, or tomorrow if her position at the company she works for will be moved to Salt Lake, or eliminated. There seems to be a small possibility that she'll be retained, but who knows. It all part of a massive downsizing and "streamlining". Oh yeah, she works for a world-wide shipping company. A Chinese company. Yeah, their's is the model to follow, eh Krugman.

27

>>>I have little hope for the future!

 

That's the Spirit!

28 I got a statistic, 56% drop out rate for High School students in El LA County...87%out of wedlock for Blacks,...everybody has a number but no common denominator of responsibility.

29 Damn, snuck right in there.

The basic atom of society is not the individual human being; it is the family. If the family is destroyed, so is society. It�s really just that simple.



And that is what happened to black families since LBJ's great society went into place.  It rewarded bad behavior.  The black illegitimacy rate shot to 75% and poverty became permanent even though it had been steadily improving for blacks before then.


But you can not convince blacks of this.

30 Posted by: Nighthawk at August 19, 2013 08:37 AM (OtQXp) Well, it's not like control of the Pacific is in our national interest or anything!

31 Someone had posted on FB of how the government will just print more money to keep things running. My comment was the Treasury has 30 million $100 bills with a printing error, that they can't even get right printing money.

32 So let me see if I have that SNAP sellback story right. A bodega owned by one guy is more likely to end up doing something shady than a local chain of Super Globo Mega Corp where everything is subject to audit three or four times up the line. You. Don't. Say. Monty, there's even more hilarity in the comments to the Detroit story. Apparently a coyote showed up at an Allen Park Meijers. Allen Park didn't used to be frontier land. Moral of that story? Blessed Mother Gaia will reclaim all and Outside will eat you. Here's where I'm at on the public pension stuff. It sucks for the people who have spent the last 30 years planning on getting that pension and so they haven't saved (or invested *see how I pay attention*) their own money. It does. But it's not my fault that they didn't see the handwriting on the wall. It's been obvious for the last 30 years that those promises could not be met. I will not pay the taxes necessary to meet those promises. I won't. I have no sympathy for those who would steal from me to take care of themselves when they refused to open their eyes and see what was coming. I should note that if my investments all go belly up? I don't expect anyone else to take care of me. Feh. A pox on all of them.

33 In some places in China, there is a lot of wealth and energy. A lot of economic vitality and growth.. Other places, not so much. It's a HUGE country, in terms of both size and people. Don't underestimate them

34

>>>everybody has a number but no common denominator of responsibility.

 

Racism!

35 Wasn�t SNAP supposed to end this problem?


Yes, but the commies (mostly CBC) resisted Repuke efforts to restrict how the SNAP cards were used and fraud became the byword.

36 Hello  Vic..75% out of wedlock, you are very generous ....in reality  it is a lot closer to 90%

37 I can't see the video on "real inflation" but I have been estimating it at around 20% for a long time.

38 Incompetent leaders?  I think Zimbabwe still holds the gold medal in that category.

39

>>>But you can not convince blacks of this.

 

Not exactly their fault. There's simply no 'institutional' memory left. Generations where no one has gone to a wedding, or held a job to pension, or gone to college, owned a home, or lived in a single-family dwelling.

40 I'll bet kitteh and doggeh don't like their pawsee's in that snow.   Anytime I put one of my cats out in the snow they got mad and ran back for the door screeching at me.

41 Yes, but the commies (mostly CBC) resisted Repuke efforts to restrict how the SNAP cards were used and fraud became the byword. There was a service station in St. Louis (I think) where I wanted to take a picture. They had a sign (the first I've seen in ever) that said quite clearly: "We do not accept SNAP/EBT." I nearly fainted. Of course, that's not nearly as funny as the one we saw somewhere in IL that said (paraphrase): "If you have stored your cash in your under-garments, we are not able to accept it for health reasons." o_O

42 DOOM kitteh has a very confident demeanor and jaunty step, almost as if he does not see the coming DOOM.

43 It sucks for the people who have spent the last 30 years planning on getting that pension and so they haven't saved (or invested *see how I pay attention*) their own money.

-------------------------------------

You will go far, my young apprentice. I sense great power in you.

44 Not exactly their fault. There's simply no 'institutional' memory left. Generations where no one has gone to a wedding, or held a job to pension, or gone to college, owned a home, or lived in a single-family dwelling. No, I'll disagree here. To some degree you're correct, but what is exactly their fault is that they attack anyone who suggests that maybe family life and not being thugs is the answer they're looking for to pull them out of poverty. See also: Cosby, Bill. See also: Any Black Conservative.

45 And that is what happened to black families since LBJ's great society went into place. It rewarded bad behavior. The black illegitimacy rate shot to 75% and poverty became permanent even though it had been steadily improving for blacks before then.


But you can not convince blacks of this.

Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2013 08:41 AM (lZvxr)

=======

The worst thing about the Great Society is that it was wildly successful in it's designed purpose- that purpose being securing the black vote for the Democrat party.

LBJ didn't give a d*mn about poor people- all he wanted was a way of insuring that they would vote Democrat.  If it ruined their lives who cared?

He sure as Hell didn't

46 Moynihan got slattered by his fellow libs when he predicted dire consequences from the decline of the black family; so that was an early shot across the bow to stfu.

47 Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2013 08:45 AM (lZvxr) Mrs H notes that she raised four kids and spent per month for groceries what she now spends for the two of us per week. Imagine what it would be like if there were inflation?

48

Nice human interest story.

http://tinyurl.com/kdwqtvh

49 32  Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 19, 2013 08:42 AM (VtjlW)



Coyotes are now nationwide.  They have already infested NYC.

50 *puts out a platter of small sammiches for the Monday morning Doom Party*

51 I often wonder if the government's 'zero' inflation is a back method to keep a handle on Social Security payouts. No cost of living adjustments, the fund lasts until 2033, instead of running out in 2031.

52 36 Hello Vic..75% out of wedlock, you are very generous ....in reality it is a lot closer to 90%

Posted by: Clemenza at August 19, 2013 08:44 AM (3GuQx)

Those were the numbers in the Census Tables I looked at last year.

53

>>>who suggests that maybe family life and not being thugs is the answer they're looking for to pull them out of poverty

 

The ones who do this guard their families with a tenacity thats very admirable. They do know quite well what results when the family is shattered and will  shun  a member who threatens that cohesion. Thats also a cultural thing.

54 Well, it's not like control of the Pacific is in our national interest or anything!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 19, 2013 08:42 AM (XdnQT)
==========

Heh- yeah...

With our Navy in the state it's in it's not like we could secure it anyway.

And after all, nothing west of Catalina island matters, right?

55 Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2013 08:45 AM (lZvxr) I understand (from a friend) that they don't barbecue well either!

56 Black America does not want to be forced to introspection. They've accepted a philosophy that tells them at every turn that every failure is the fault of someone else, and every cure is from the hand of the people telling them it's someone else's fault. This is a recipe for disaster, and will continue to fail and fail and fail, because no one else can give them the cure for what ails them.

57

>>>*puts out a platter of small sammiches for the Monday morning Doom Party*

 

These little cucumber wedges are teh bomb

58 Obama Admin Rewards Palestinian Authority With $148 MillionÂ… Even though Congress banned funding for the Palestinians over their attempts at U.N. statehood. But screw the Egyptian Military and let Egypt go over to the Russians?

59 Posted by: maddogg at August 19, 2013 08:49 AM (xWW96) D*mn allergies. I need a Kleenex.

60 #51 That's what I've assumed, to make it an unCOLA. And to make Gaylord Focker appear less hapless, either by accident or design.

61 Posted by: Bigby's OTOH at August 19, 2013 08:53 AM (3ZtZW S glad you cut the crusts off!

62 They have already infested NYC.

Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2013 08:50 AM (lZvxr)

Eh. A few showed up in Central Park and a few other places, and everyone freaked out. I haven't heard of any recently.

Cougers, on the other hand.......

63 Report: Former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to be freed Wonder if obama and State will come out against this?

64 Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2013 08:54 AM (9Xc5j) Wonder how much will come back as Dem campaign contributions?

65 Speaking of Egypt, Mubarack has been cleared of corruption charges and has been ordered freed.


http://tinyurl.com/kytpea5

66 Posted by: fluffy at August 19, 2013 08:50 AM (z9HTb) I'm pretty sure that's part of it. But part of it is to be able to avoid the "stagflation" moniker (which is what we've really had) and to help keep interest rates low (as long as there's "zero" inflation, the Fed can keep interest rates at or near zero, if they started paying attention to inflation, interest rates would be nearing 5 or 6% (at least)).

67 Doom Morning, Ace-oids. Since this rock covers Gabe's scissors, I'll comment here about there. I'm not in the anti-Gabe fan club. I do appreciate it when other commenters dissect Gabes words and reinterpreted articles he links to. Today, in a light reading, it looked like Gabe was apologizing for having been misled by the Laughingstock Media. Okay. But then toward the end he said, yeah but a lot of you guys did, too. Seemed a little... defensive, at best. Well, now, on to the doom.

68

The really bad news behind the drop in jobless claims.

 

Inflation sucks. But wait, it gets worse for production/non-supervisory employees. While the June-to-July drop in inflation-adjusted weekly wages wasn't quite as bad for them as it was overall (-0.48% for produciton/non-supervisory, 0.53% overall), they lost a lot more in inflation-adjusted weekly wages over the last year (-0.42% for production/non-supervisory, -0.09% overall).

 

Oh yeah, the inflation for urban wage earners/clerical workers (CPI-W, used for the production/non-supervisory numbers), at 2.00%, was a bit worse than the inflation for the inflation for all urban consumers (CPI-U, used for the all-employees numbers), at 1.96%.

69 One of the fastest growing groups of food stamp recipients are the recently discharged vets. Probably this is why that group voted for Obama

70

I often wonder if the government's 'zero' inflation is a back method to keep a handle on Social Security payouts. No cost of living adjustments, the fund lasts until 2033, instead of running out in 2031.

 

Posted by: fluffy at August 19, 2013 08:50 AM (z9HTb)

 

Helps on one end, hurts on the other - no inflation equals low interest rates, which lessens the amount of "interest".

71

I'm pretty sure that's part of it. But part of it is to be able to avoid the "stagflation" moniker (which is what we've really had) and to help keep interest rates low (as long as there's "zero" inflation, the Fed can keep interest rates at or near zero, if they started paying attention to inflation, interest rates would be nearing 5 or 6% (at least)).

 

 

Funny. Here in NC the teacher unions are freaking out that Governor McCrory gave them only a 4.5% increase in funding from last year instead of the 6% that they wanted, claiming that they need that extra money due to "inflation" among other things.

 

 

72 Speaking of Egypt, Mubarack has been cleared of corruption charges and has been ordered freed. http://tinyurl.com/kytpea5 Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2013 08:57 AM (lZvxr) He still has other charges pending against him, but if possible, If I were him, I'd get the hell out of Egypt

73 Posted by: Grey Fox at August 19, 2013 09:02 AM (210xL) It is funny how inflation is real when the Prog/Commies want it to be, and not when they don't want it to be. It's almost like they're Humpty Dumpty, declaring what words mean.

74 Black America does not want to be forced to introspection. They've accepted a philosophy that tells them at every turn that every failure is the fault of someone else, and every cure is from the hand of the people telling them it's someone else's fault. This is a recipe for disaster, and will continue to fail and fail and fail, because no one else can give them the cure for what ails them.

 

Posted by: zsasz at August 19, 2013 08:52 AM (MMC8r)

 

The white man and slavery.  Were the black community aware of their own history, Oprah's laughable statement about "millions" of blacks having been lynched would have been enough to deep-six her career.

 

Remember when McStain, being his usual asshole pandering self, went on "The View" and was asked by Whoopie Pie if his being elected would return her to slavery?  That senile old bastard could have hammered the softball out of the park if  he'd called her out not only on her utter idiocy  but also on the whole "slavery" bullshit.  Reparations have been paid, bitch.  With blood.  On the fields of Gettysburg, Shiloh, Manassas and Fredericksburg.  You want money?  Go to the congress and get it from the white Democrats who enslaved you, you simpering anal pustle.

75 Being poor didn't suck for me when I was 8yrs old.  I didn't know I was poor, everybody around me wore their sisters hand me downs, so it was normal. I did get a few strange looks when I started wearing her bras for earmuffs though.

76 Aaaaand occam's got nothing.

77 Here is what real inflation looks like;


Groceries 1950:  Eggs 47 cents

This morning in Walmart Superstore: $2.78

I'm math challenged this morning so I will not calculate the % inflation since 1950.

http://tinyurl.com/mpeunvn

78 He still has other charges pending against him, but if possible, If I were him, I'd get the hell out of Egypt Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2013 09:03 AM (9Xc5j) He'll prolly end up in the Lincoln bedroom. Good mornin rons.

79 He still has other charges pending against him, but if possible, If I were him, I'd get the hell out of Egypt I think it would be absolutely hilarious if he wound up in charge again. As if the entire nation of Egypt (excepting the MB, of course) stood up and said, "Mulligan!"

80 Okay, time for more coffee...

81 I'm too lazy to check but did vets *really* vote for the JEF? Or is the troll just being "ironic"?

82
*spritzes computer with Lysol to get the zerohedge stink off*

83

  Or is the troll just being "ironic"?

 

Yes

84 And when Humpty Dumpty Gaylord Focker falls, not all of the FSA will be able to put him back together.

85 He'll prolly end up in the Lincoln bedroom. Good mornin rons.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 19, 2013 09:05 AM (XIxXP)

 

Mornin', OSP!

 

And nah.  Obammy's completely in the pocket of the Muzzie Bro'hood    now.  The best Mubarak would get is a subsidized apartment in some Chicago housing project.

 

86 67 - Gabe fills a certain segment in the GOP. Partly I suspect he's there to further his career amongst the GOP and we will benefit from that access, but also he's very much reflective of what the Party leadership is really like, including the dismissive and defensive tone. What Gabe supports, and how he supports it, is *GOP mainstream in DC* and its why the fractures will not heal.

87

OT

The Battle of Medina occurred on this day in 1813. The Battle of Medina is the bloodiest ever fought on Texas soil. Republican forces of the Gutierrez-Magee expedition fought a Royalist army under General Joaquin Arredondo. 1,400 Republicans faced off against 1,830 Royalists about 20 miles south of San Antonio. The battle ended in a Royalist victory with only about 100 Republicans surviving.  The bodies of the rest were left on the field of battle for nine years.

Among the Royalist officers in the battle was Antonia Lopez de Santa Ana who would later command a Mexican force in a victory in another war of rebellion in nearby San Antonio.

 

88 No offense to Baldilocks or Chique d'Afrique, both of whom I admire immensely, I have noticed the trend of successful Black males marrying White women. I am not just talking Black athletes with their gorgeous trophy wives. I mean middle class and upper middle class Black guys with White women of roughly the same status. I know several of these couples. I know no couples where the reverse is true. Anybody else?

89 Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2013 09:05 AM (lZvxr)

+500%

90 Speaking of shitstains in the Repuke establishment, did anybody see Preibus on Stuffadickupmyass yesterday?

91 Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 19, 2013 09:09 AM (kw3Tc)

Not sure that's a trend.

Successful colleague of my wifes married a Black woman. Of course she is a stunner, and quite conservative.

92 As long as Mubarak is not invited to tour Ft. Marcy Park he should be good.

93 According to a serious commenter over at the CNBC article about job bad news...

"The Fed has one and only one tool, and that is to print money. And when it prints money, the greatest beneficiaries are the ultra-wealthy who basically get boat loads of free money to play around with." Free money to play around with.

Yeah, buddy. Scrooge McDuck loves to dive into his cash piles as well as his gold coins. Which he got for free.

94 #85  Saudis will give Mubarak asylum.   They are giving billions to the Egyptians and disagreed with forcing him out to begin with.

95 Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 19, 2013 09:06 AM (4OpkQ) It's mouth is open. It's either lying or vomiting all over the thread.

96 Retired 68-year-old US Army general and former NATO Supreme Allied Commander Wesley K. Clark has won yet another esteemed decoration — he is dating 30-year-old Shauna Mei, the founder of online retailer AHAlife.com.

Clark, who was married to Gertrude Kingston Clark for 45 years before filing for divorce last year, is spending time with the young New York-based entrepreneur, who graduated from MIT and worked at Goldman Sachs as an investment banker before launching her luxury e-commerce site.

97 >>> Aaaaand occam's got nothing Maybe it's just the times I am around, but lately occam has been pointing out how the Obama administration is good for the super rich, not so good for the rest of us.

98 89 
89 Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2013 09:05 AM (lZvxr)

+500%

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2013 09:09 AM (gqgiP)

Think about this as well.  That price has been held down to some extent by the use of corporate egg farms now mass producing eggs.  In 1950 it was more of a mom and pop operation. 

99

I know no couples where the reverse is true. Anybody else?

 

I know of a couple white man-black woman marriages. One of them is Star Parker.

100 With all due respect, Sherry, I fail to see how that comment would be construed as offensive by rational people like Baldilocks and Chique.  I have seen the white male/black female couple several times on shows like Law and Order and a recent episode of Royal Pains.  In real life though, no, I've never known one that I can think of.

101 Think about this as well. That price has been held down to some extent by the use of corporate egg farms now mass producing eggs. In 1950 it was more of a mom and pop operation. Yeah, but it's also been pushed up (and this is part of why it's more Ultra-Corp instead of mom-and-pop, too) by Federal Regulations.

102 Congrats to Clark's ex for finally being rid of that worthless turd.

103 Miss Marple, think Ms. Mei is a Decepticon?  And by now Weasel Clark is wired for sound?

104 Doggehs & kittehs prowling together? This won't end well.

105 I'm math challenged this morning so I will not calculate the % inflation since 1950.

According to this inflation calculator, that price increase is actually less  than  the CPI increase since 1950: 5.9x vs 9.4x.

http://www.westegg.com/inflation/

106 In real life though, no, I've never known one that I can think of. I've seen it, but it's rare. As someone mentioned: Starr Parker.

107 I know of a couple white man-black woman marriages. One of them is Star Parker.

Michelle Obama and Barry.

108 CAC just married a black gal about a year ago.

109 >>> Groceries 1950: Eggs 47 cents >>> This morning in Walmart Superstore: $2.78 I can get cage free (organic?) eggs from DeMoulas for $2.69

110 I should clarify my last remark--I've never personally known one.

111 CAC just married a black gal about a year ago. Yeah, but we're talking about successful (economically) couples.

112 Isn't whoopie married to a white actor from Cheers?

113 What will be the effects of a global default? I figure it all lasts as long as everybody continues to pretend, but someone will default and then its a race for everyone to do the same. Effects? World war.

114 Here is what real inflation looks like;


Groceries 1950: Eggs 47 cents

This morning in Walmart Superstore: $2.78

I'm math challenged this morning so I will not calculate the % inflation since 1950.

http://tinyurl.com/mpeunvn

Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2013 09:05 AM (lZvxr)

 

Divide $2.78 by $0.47.

 

Raise by 1 over 63 (the number of years between 1950 and 2013).

 

Average inflation is 2.86%.

115 Yeah, CAC, but he's one of those fake people living in the gray boxes on the intertubes, like the rest of you morons.

116 But fluffy those organic eggs.  How thick or thin were the shells?  If the shells are very thin then Mr. Organic Farmer is not feeding his chickens enough calcium so the chicken is killing itself to produce those eggs.

117 Isn't whoopie married to a white actor from Cheers? Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2013 09:17 AM (lZvxr) The whoopster has been married and divorced a couple of times.

118 Isn't whoopie married to a white actor from Cheers? I don't think so. I think she and Ted Danson were a thing for a while, but I don't think they are now.

119

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2013 09:04 AM (zF6Iw)

 

Will you marry me?

 

*swoon*

120 No offense to Baldilocks or Chique d'Afrique, both of whom I admire immensely, I have noticed the trend of successful Black males marrying White women. I am not just talking Black athletes with their gorgeous trophy wives. I mean middle class and upper middle class Black guys with White women of roughly the same status. I know several of these couples. I know no couples where the reverse is true. Anybody else?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 19, 2013 09:09 AM (kw3Tc)

 

 

From Kanye West's "Gold Digger":

 

"He gonna    make it into a Benz out of that Datsun

He got that ambition,    baby,   look at his eyes

This week he moppin' floors, next week it's the fries

 

 

So, stick by his side

I know this dude's ballin', but yea, that's nice

And they gone keep callin' and tryin'

But you stay right, girl,

But when you get on he leave yo' ass for a white girl."

 

 

121 I don't think so. I think she and Ted Danson were a thing for a while, but I don't think they are now.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 19, 2013 09:18 AM (/PCJa)

They were married though.

122 I don't think so. I think she and Ted Danson were a thing for a while, but I don't think they are now.

 

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 19, 2013 09:18 AM (/PCJa)

 

 

Yeah, the whole "Going to Whoopi's roast in blackface" thing sort of killed that relationship dead.  

 

Anyone who would be married to    Whoopi needs his   head examined.

123 As of May 31, 2013, when the CRS analysis was completed, the White House had yet to meet 9 of 12 deadlines from the first year after the Affordable Care Act was enacted. It failed to meet 22 of 53 deadlines in the second year; another 8 became moot after Congress did not appropriate funds to complete the assigned tasks. In year three, the administration missed 10 out of 17 deadlines. ThatÂ’s a total of 41 out of 82 deadlines missed.

If you exclude the 9 deadlines that became moot because Congress never appropriated the funds to meet them, the Obama administration missed 41 out of 73 deadlines, or 56 percent.

124 I know no couples where the reverse is true. Anybody else?

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My friend's white father married a black woman.  Regular middle class people.  I even saw a commercial the other day, for what I don't remember, that featured a white guy and his AA girlfriend.  Or I assumed so, since they were romantically embracing and kissing.  And this was a commercial, not a TV show.

125 Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2013 09:19 AM (lZvxr) Were they? I seriously don't remember. But, if'n so, that's example #2.

126 But when you get on he leave yo' ass for a white girl." Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 19, 2013 09:18 AM (4df7R) Well, It's certainly not bridge over troubled water, but I guess it's a song.

127

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 19, 2013 08:42 AM (VtjlW)

 

You know in fairness, wife and I had a possum approach us last night while on our back patio.

And Coyotes aren't unheard of.

I don't exactly live in the frontier lands either.

But still..Detroit.

128 #103  It's amazing to me how all of the articles just act like the oly interesting thing is her AHA business and her age.  No one mentions she is Chinese,  or her miraculous rise to millionaire status from nothing,  or how she wound up in this country,  or who the investors (Cough* PRC* Cough) are.

I know I am just a Midwest grandma with no super-smart degrees in journalism or foreign policy,  but it sure looks a little odd to me.

129 They were married though.

Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2013 09:19 AM (lZvxr)

 

I don't    think so.   They dated for a while, but as far as I know they were never married.

130 When you include unfunded liabilities, per  Richard     Fisher of the Dallas Fed, the actual debt number is close   to $200 trillion.

131 Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2013 09:17 AM (lZvxr) Think she divorced "blackface"Ted Danson a while back!

132 I know I am just a Midwest grandma with no super-smart degrees in journalism or foreign policy, but it sure looks a little odd to me. Posted by: Miss Marple at August 19, 2013 09:21 AM (GoIUi) So you are saying she's like Joyce Kim from the Big Bang Theory? Everything that man does looks suspect to me.

133
Groceries 1950: Eggs 47 cents

This morning in Walmart Superstore: $2.78

I'm math challenged this morning so I will not calculate the % inflation since 1950.

http://tinyurl.com/mpeunvn

Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2013 09:05 AM (lZvxr)

 

$.47 in 1950 would be about $4.50 today.

134 Well there is good news about Whoopi.  Like Alec Baldwin she has been relegated to doing commercials.  Now if only the Vikings would pillage her Poise...

135 129 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 19, 2013 09:21 AM (4df7R)


OK, I just checked.  They were never married.

136 Well, It's certainly not bridge over troubled water, but I guess it's a song.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 19, 2013 09:20 AM (XIxXP)

 

it's actually got a pretty good beat.  Kanye's a douche, but when he gets a   song right, he gets it right.  

 

Of course, "Gold Digger" is further hampered by the fact it's got frigging Jamie Foxx wailing away in his best Ray     Charles impersonation   over the chorus.   I love Ray Charles;  Jamie Foxx makes my skin crawl thanks to his being a stonecold racist.

137

>>Michelle Obama and Barry.

 

Whoopie and Ted Danson

138 It takes a f'n village!

139 Hello darkness my old friend...

140 Lets see, China problems off the top of my head - China has major problems with civil unrest that we never hear about. Not enough women has seriously screwed up the demographics. The Taiwan problem. The Sea of China problems. They are immigrating into Siberia and need the water and natural resources, especially water, and will probably end up taking it away from Russia, either by buying it, or taking it.

141 Hello darkness my old friend... Posted by: lauren at August 19, 2013 09:24 AM (ELdpj) Great opening line to a doom thread, lol.

142 Per wiki Danson has had 3 wives and none were Whoopi.

143 Maybe they should have hired Stevie Wonder for the background vocals.  Just don't tell him he's in Florida is all.

144 OK, rain has slacked off enough now I can haul my trash to the dump. bbl

145 Families are inherently racist

146 Well there is good news about Whoopi. Like Alec Baldwin she has been relegated to doing commercials. Now if only the Vikings would pillage her Poise... Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 09:23 AM (kENvx) I wonder if she could win the eyebrow growing contest. Morning!

147 Successful colleague of my wifes married a Black woman. Of course she is a stunner, and quite conservative.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2013 09:11 AM (gqgiP)

 

And that's the thing, isn't it?   I personally don't care what    the color is of a person's skin, so long as their beliefs and values are similar to mine.  I would have no problem marrying a black man   provided he, too, shared my conservative ideals.

 

On the left, on the other hand,  skin color trumps all.  

148 “Gold? All over?” M asks James Bond upon hearing how Jill Masterson died in 1964′s Goldfinger. While Bond goes on to explain that the gold coating on Ms. Masterson caused her to die of “skin suffocation”, the same fate will not befall the next iPhone. But only because the iPhone will not require oxygen.

Yes, there will be a gold iPhone.

149 #100, I was trying not to imply that Black women are somehow inferior or "less" than White women. I wanted that to be very clear. I just see a lot of very nice Black guys with White women, while not seeing a lot of very nice White guys with Black women--none, in fact. MWR, love you bunches, but it impossible for me to care less than I do about Kanye's racist pouty little opinion on anything...especially since he Baby Mama be White.

150 Race, race, race. I just gonna presume most folks around here know there is but one race. The human race. And that things get talked about around here in terms of black, white and such because that's what those folks we oppose pretty much force us to do. Right? Or close but not well stated?

151 $.47 in 1950 would be about $4.50 today. Give it time...

152 #132  Yes!  Correct analogy from pop culture!

The day this news first broke Anna Puma and I went digging.  

She arrived here with her parents right after Tienanmen Square.  She had a hole in her heart which disappeared. (On this I will tak one of the docs' word here that that sometimes happens.)  They did not return to China.  She got into MIT.  After graduating,  she went to work for Goldman Sachs. After woring there ONE YEAR,  she apparently decided "climing the technology ladder wasn't for her" so she took a job in Sweden in internet retail or something.  (Apparently she left her parents in the states,  or they havve gone back to China.  I can find no info on this.)

Then she got the idea for her internet shopping service for high-end customers,  called AHA.  Then she got "angel investors" (again,  we don't know who) and voila! She is now famous and rich and of ALL the people she could date she winds up with the former Supreme Commander of NATO,  a guy over twice her age,  who just happens to sit on a lot of boards and knows a lot of people in government and the military.

I am suspicious.

153 We are New Rome.

154 Families are inherently racist I wouldn't be surprised to hear that meme start up in the next couple of years. We'll be told how Africans, Aborigines, and "Native Americans" all had clan/tribal structures, and the children were raised "communally" with the fathers largely not present (because: hunting), and that its only our Caucasian cultural roots that make us think Family is the building block of society- and so that makes us raaaaacist.

155

And that's the thing, isn't it? I personally don't care what the color is of a person's skin, so long as their beliefs and values are similar to mine. I would have no problem marrying a black man provided he, too, shared my conservative ideals.

On the left, on the other hand, skin color trumps all.

 

*golf clap*

 

156 MWR, love you bunches, but it impossible for me to care less than I do about Kanye's racist pouty little opinion on anything...especially since he Baby Mama be White.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 19, 2013 09:27 AM (kw3Tc)

 

lol!  I    was just quoting it    as an example of how the trend -- if it can be called a trend -- has   not gone unnoticed in popular culture.

 

See, too,   that Julia Stiles movie, "Save the Last Dance," where her boyfriend's     sister   has a racist freakout     over Julia Stiles being white.

157 Nero fiddled while Rome ..

Nay, Obama golfed while the US ...

158

>>>>Right? Or close but not well stated?

 

Correct, but you're not going to get anywhere with that. The world is what it is.

159 31 Someone had posted on FB of how the government will just print more money to keep things running. My comment was the Treasury has 30 million $100 bills with a printing error, that they can't even get right printing money.
  Luckily only a fraction of those bills are unusable. There is a plan in place to weed out the bad ones.

160 Sorry for spelling errors.  My keyboard sticks and I forget to proofread before posting.

161 We'll be told how Africans, Aborigines, and "Native Americans" all had clan/tribal structures, and the children were raised "communally" with the fathers largely not present (because: hunting), and that its only our Caucasian cultural roots that make us think Family is the building block of society- and so that makes us raaaaacist.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 19, 2013 09:29 AM (/PCJa)

 

Remember Hillary's  "It Takes a Village?"

 

Yeah, it started a long time ago.

162 We'll be told how Africans, Aborigines, and "Native Americans" all had clan/tribal structures, and the children were raised "communally" with the fathers largely not present (because: hunting), Who taught the kids to become a man, hunt & become warriors? Sure wasn't mom & auntie.

163 We'll be told how Africans, Aborigines, and "Native Americans" all had clan/tribal structures, and the children were raised "communally" with the fathers largely not present (because: hunting), and that its only our Caucasian cultural roots that make us think Family is the building block of society- and so that makes us raaaaacist. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 19, 2013 09:29 AM (/PCJa) It's the building block of CIVILIZED society. Want to be hunter gatherers? Yeah, not so much.

164 Luckily only a fraction of those bills are unusable. There is a plan in place to weed out the bad ones.

Posted by: Auslander at August 19, 2013 09:32 AM (52I7p)

 

*SNORT*   Right.   Like I trust the gubmint to be able to effectively "weed out" unusuable bills.  They'll fuck that up, too.

165

>>>>We are New Rome.

 

I wish. Pax America is still kinda wet behind the ears

166
Inflation will not be a factor in my securing the nomination of the Democrat Party, or the inevitability of my coronation. 

167

Late to the party, as usual, but a good DOOM round-up, Monty. As far as the first piece about the family, it is absolutely correct. That is why the progs have been trying to destroy it for a century. It is the only institution, loyalty to which should exceed that to the State. Therefore, it must go. Virtually all of our current problems can traced to its destruction.

168 The VP of my departnent is here this week and just came over to talk to me. I wish I wasn't such a nervous, awkward dweeb.

169 *SNORT* Right. Like I trust the gubmint to be able to effectively "weed out" unusuable bills. They'll fuck that up, too.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 19, 2013 09:33 AM (4df7R)

 

Oh, and if one of those non-legal tender bills makes it into circulation, and you use it to buy something and it gets refused,     do     you think the gubmint's going to swap it for you    with a usuable bill?     Free of charge?  

 

Yeah.  Right.    And my name's    Hildegaard Bunsen.

170

>>>Luckily only a fraction of those bills are unusable. There is a plan in place to weed out the bad ones.

 

White-Out?

171 These 30 million bills was the Treasury's second screw up with the $100 denomination.  So one has to wonder what happened to those bills?  It was costing a small mint to store the defective bills while they sorted that out.  And now we got bills with a 'mashing' problem, ie the ink bled which seems an appropriate analogy for our financial woes.

172 Dump up.

173 I wish. Pax America is still kinda wet behind the ears Posted by: Bigby's OTOH at August 19, 2013 09:34 AM (3ZtZW) Technology accelerated the decline. Seriously. Anti-biotics cured Venereal disease, thereby encouraging promiscuity. "The Pill" prevented pregnancy, thereby encouraging promiscuity. World War II took millions of men out of the pool of potential husbands, thereby encouraging promiscuity. LBJ created the "War on Poverty" which made Husband's unnecessary, thereby encouraging promiscuity. And so on.

174 #171  What a good question!   I wonder what the next sleight-of-hand will be.

175 Families are also inherently homophobic. We just can't leave that one out.

176 Right? Or close but not well stated? Posted by: nothinglefttolose at August 19, 2013 09:28 AM (M3APu) Wrong, I didn't start this racist shit. I don't belom ng to the NAACP or LaRaza or any number of orgs that promote one race over another. I'm married, here for my kids and work. I don't take Gov handouts. No, it's not the color that makes you bad, it's using it as an excuse not to live up to your potential or responsibilities that's bad. I'm just tired of being told my life is a cakewalk cause i'm white. I risked my life on the deck of an aircraft carrier when there were no opportunities in 1982. I worked 6/10's in a nasty ass factory to lear a skill set. I went to college part time on my own dime to get a degree. Nobody gave me a fuckn thing. I am sick of these sorry MFKrs from all races that's not mine treating me like I have a harem of bleck girls i'm raping and I keep prison full of mexicans to handle my hard work. Everywhere in this country where people of color are concentrated, It's a mess. That's the truth.

177 Therefore, it must go. Virtually all of our current problems can traced to its destruction. Posted by: RS at August 19, 2013 09:34 AM (YAGV/) And the road to it's destruction is just as much a by product of technology as any overt attempts to destroy it. (See previous commentary above.)

178 Great post as usual Monty
The Family as Society's Atom is a gem of an analogy.


I wish that when these Leftist economic "trolls" start with their inequality BS, people would respond with choices and opportunities as economic goals, not equality.


That's my typical response, spiced with increasingly direct and rude subjects and modifiers as deemed necessary/gratuitous.

179 It's ridiculous for leftists to compare 21st century American society to aboriginal societies and say "It takes a village". We are not a village; We are not a group of 50 people living together In order to get along we do needs friends and/or family members to help out with things, but the basic building block of society here has always been the family and in earlier times the church. If we do not have intact families there is no village caring for the children that don't belong to families. The state doesn't want strong, intact families because of the state is caring for us we will depend on the state. Dependency=Control.

180

What's a Monday morning without a hot,  steaming cup o' DOOM?

 

I read somewhere on teh Intertoobs a few days ago that the economist Walter J. Williams said the real live   funemployment  rate was 23%.

 

I believe it. The  same goes for the  actual rate of inflation, which is around 8%, not the 1%   or 2%   the government professors say it is. All it takes is a quick perusal of how they arrive at that figure       (by  conveniently excluding all the purchases that families make like groceries and gasoline)    to know that their numbers are manipulated bullshit.

 

And yet not one Pubbie  has the cojones to call them out on it. I'd  like to see just one  somebody show up with a handful of grocery receipts from five years ago and today, and compare them. Then do some calculating

181 Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2013 09:32 AM (uVkIH) Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 19, 2013 09:32 AM (bb5+k) Just to be clear, I was pointing out what we'll hear, not what I believe. I'm on your side on this one. Also, as MWR pointed out- we started hearing this many years ago from Canckels herself.

182 154 Families are inherently racist

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that meme start up in the next couple of years.

We'll be told how Africans, Aborigines, and "Native Americans" all had clan/tribal structures, and the children were raised "communally" with the fathers largely not present (because: hunting), and that its only our Caucasian cultural roots that make us think Family is the building block of society- and so that makes us raaaaacist.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 19, 2013 09:29 AM (/PCJa)

 

Also note that all those peoples were still living in tents of animal skins or mud huts while the evil white Europeans were writing King Lear, and the family centered Asian cultures had been refining gunpowder for generations, and the Mediterranean cultures gave us Philosophy and aqueducts and the principles of sanitation--yes, I'm going to say that family-based cultures are superior to the tribal cultures.

183 179 It's ridiculous for leftists to compare 21st century American society to aboriginal societies and say "It takes a village". We are not a village; We are not a group of 50 people living together In order to get along we do needs friends and/or family members to help out with things, but the basic building block of society here has always been the family and in earlier times the church. If we do not have intact families there is no village caring for the children that don't belong to families. The state doesn't want strong, intact families because of the state is caring for us we will depend on the state. Dependency=Control. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2013 09:41 AM (2Tv3A) Some idiot at my last job mentioned the 'takes a village' b.s. and I said "yeah, that's what their problem is...if it takes an entire village just to raise one snot-nosed brat, then they won't have any capital left over to do something useful like cure a disease or build a plane. Besides, when did Africa become a place to look for civilization tips?"

184

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 19, 2013 09:45 AM (sQ0LB)

 

Is it even clear that this was the way back then anyway? or is that a convenient rewriting of history? It seems to me it's more likely than not the latter.  There's a stark difference between living in a community and having division of labor and "communal children" and entirely different idea.

185

>>>.I have noticed the trend of successful Black males marrying White women. I am not just talking Black athletes with their gorgeous trophy wives. I mean middle class and upper middle class Black guys with White women of roughly the same status. I know several of these couples. I know no couples where the reverse is true. Anybody else?.

.

.I know two couples with a white male and a black female.  Both are military (one is retired).  Just those two in 56 years that I have known about.

186

>>>.I have noticed the trend of successful Black males marrying White women. I am not just talking Black athletes with their gorgeous trophy wives. I mean middle class and upper middle class Black guys with White women of roughly the same status. I know several of these couples. I know no couples where the reverse is true. Anybody else?.

.

.I know two couples with a white male and a black female.  Both are military (one is retired).  Just those two in 56 years that I have known about.

187

Is it even clear that this was the way back then anyway? or is that a convenient rewriting of history? It seems to me it's more likely than not the latter. There's a stark difference between living in a communityand having division of labor and "communal children" and entirely different idea.

 

Also, that "community" included aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. Extended family is still family...

188 180 What's a Monday morning without a hot, steaming cup o' DOOM? I read somewhere on teh Intertoobs a few days ago that the economist Walter J. Williams said the real live funemployment rate was 23%. I believe it. The same goes for the actual rate of inflation, which is around 8%, not the 1% or 2% the government professors say it is. All it takes is a quick perusal of how they arrive at that figure(by conveniently excluding all the purchases that families make like groceries and gasoline) to know that their numbers are manipulated bullshit. And yet not one Pubbie has the cojones to call them out on it. I'd like to see just one somebody show up with a handful of grocery receipts from five years ago and today, and compare them. Then do some calculating Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit My "man, walking the streets of Coastal Georgia" view? 1 in 5 white people cannot find any kind of job. Black folks? 1 in 2. Not even the vilest, most demeaning kind of work. It is that bad. And has been since the fix was in for Duh!1....

189 DOG AND CAT SUPERHERO TEAMUP IS GO!!!!

190 Mornin', Horde. Seen interracials in both directions. Seems mostly a black gent and a white lady though; I can't cite any evidence, but I suspect it's kind of a 'status symbol' for the AA males, though the couples I've known personally were legit. So I may be full of crap here, which would come as zero shock to me. (It may also be cultural conventions of attractiveness, though that starts to get tangled in a hurry...)

191 The same goes for the actual rate of inflation, which is around 8%, not the 1% or 2% the government professors say it is.

Its dropped a little over the summer, per my personal QuickBooks "market basket" - to 7.4%

192 A. Bloom also talked about how the family is a point of resistance to government. When a man gets a wife and children and property, he wants to protect it. He wants to raise his children, he wants to keep his land and his bank accounts. (Of course, women do this too)

So that's the real reason the left wants welfare: it destroys resistance to power.

I remember a story I heard once about a man from India who snuck into the US. He said, "I want to live in a country where the poor people are fat." 

193

Santelli is awesome.  Why isn't he on FBN yet?

 

 

 

"The basic atom of society is not the individual human being; it is the family."  Back to science class for you! The family is analogous to a molecule. You can have a bar of gold with atoms, but not living things, so the rest of the analogy still works.

194

You may be right about China.  I'm no economist.  BUT, I do live in China.  And I see TRUCKLOAD after TRUCKLOAD of raw materials(bricks, sheets of steel, dirt, etc...) pass by my apartment every 5 minutes or so. I don't remember seeing that many tractor-trailers on the road when I left America in 2011.  In fact, I remember the ABSENCE of tractor-trailers during my commutes to Atlanta.