1

I've been laid off six times in my career. I never once blamed The Rich or capitalism. I was eligible for unemployment all six times but only took it twice. I am not a freeloader.

 

Hear me, lefty whiners.

2 Monty swings the DOOM bat.

3 Could be a small number...

4 The way we're headed, Moody's should change its name to Doomy's.

5 Illinois is walking towards the cliff.

6 It's been a long time since the last DOOM

Good to see you posting, Monty.

7 I wish we could blow a big fat hole in the notion that China is anywhere near us in terms of economic dominance: For the Chinese to reach our GDP, they would have to continue to grow their economy at +10% a year for the next 30 years, while our economy continued to do what it is now, barely treading water at ~1-1.2% growth. Most economists say that level of growth is unsustainable.

8 As for the immigrant problem, that implies that illegal immigrants spend most of their time in the fields working menial jobs. We both know that's not the case, as many of them are now finding free rides at our fine state schools the en vogue thing to do.

9 DOOM! - It's what's for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and midnight snack!

10 Yes, the answer is education and training.

Basic math.
Clear, simple writing.
Ability to read at the high school level.

If the youth of Detroit got those things, I would bet that there are 500 companies in America who would relocate to Detroit.

11

Soon....very soon!!!!

12 It's just that my Kyrgyz prison cell did not have internet access. You misspelled "Peruvian" Monty.

13 For the Chinese to reach our GDP

But...a huge quantity of what we count as GDP is in fact net liability rather than asset.

14 A former boss of mine got let go recently.  He was the best supervisor I ever had, by far, and his being out of work is just another marker on how shitty the JEF economy is.

15 many of them are now finding free rides at our fine state schools the en vogue thing to do. Posted by: Just Lurkin' at July 29, 2013 08:25 AM

And more are finding free rides at our fine state welfare offices. Build them a paradise of free housing, free education, free food, free phones, free hospitalization, bonuses for punching out fresh spawn and so much more, and they will come....

16 You show me somebody who never had to hustle to make the rent during a rough patch, and I'll show you a trust-fund baby who probably isn't worth a mousefart in a hurricane. *waves* Guaran-fucking-tee you I'm worth more than that. The fact that several generations of my family busted their ass (as I continue to do) so that we don't have to worry as much during lean times doesn't mean shit about our worth.

17

But under the reign of His Majesty the King Barack Hussein Obama, the Imperial Will is all that matters: if His Majesty wishes to retain his status as savior of Detroit, he may make it known to his minions that the failure of Detroit would equal an insult to the Royal Person.

 

Translation - what happened to us is anything but an abberation in the era of ObamiNation.  Those of you who hold "secured" bonds in Detriot, bend over and spread 'em because it's going to hurt.

18 OMG!!!!!
Monty is back with DOOM!
And on my Birthday none the less!
Thank you, thank you, thank you Monty!

now all I need is SMOD...and my day will be complete!

19 Hooray for Monty!! MONTY MONTY MONTY MONTY!!!!!! Intresting take on Egypt, especially the part about people in south America rarely starving, even Banana republics have Bananas. Violence starts when bellies rumble. It has always been that way. We would have our own riots and battles if not for the massive subsidies of the FSA. We as a nation are not real far from that.

20

The history of the Industrial Age is in part the history of machines taking over the tasks of farming from human beings.

 

********

 

Although there is a push by libs in the media to return everything to 19th century farming methods. This is nonsense. Why would be want to try to emulate third world nations who don't have  access to enough food?

21 Automation of manual labor will come a lot quicker if the minimum wage is raised.

What makes sense at $7.25 might not make sense at $10.

I have no doubt that MacDonalds has prototype burger assembly lines.

I wonder what the break-even wage is?

22 Posted by: Paladin at July 29, 2013 08:33 AM (ycm4Q) Happy Birthday. More LEOs. Goodness there are a bunch of us here.

23 Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 29, 2013 08:30 AM (da5Wo)

Agreed.

Monty's hyperbole is in rare form today.

24

But...a huge quantity of what we count as GDP is in fact net liability rather than asset.

 

Posted by: Purp at July 29, 2013 08:28 AM (S3yfV)

 

Counter-counterpoint - essentially the entirety of the ChiCom GDP is government-controlled.

25 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 29, 2013 08:34 AM (gqgiP) I have a present for you. The Upton. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=vnkw8g&s=5

26 What makes sense at $7.25 might not make sense at $10.

The hikers never grasp this...which is why min-wage hikes are ALWAYS followed by UE spikes.  ALWAYS.

27 Counter-counterpoint - essentially the entirety of the ChiCom GDP is government-controlled. Posted by: steveegg at July 29, 2013 08:37 AM (o44nj) Which sort of makes it an origami tiger.

28

I have no doubt that MacDonalds has prototype burger assembly lines.

 

I wonder what the break-even wage is?

 

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 29, 2013 08:33 AM (gqgiP)

 

Somewhere under $15 (2013 dollars)/hour, I suspect.

29 " We know what brought Detroit to this low state; what's more topical is what is going to happen to Detroit going forward. The city was built to house about twice the people it currently contains. Detroit faces a situation that no other major American city has had to face until now: how to shrink rather than grow."


You are looking at this all backwards.  Obviously the solution to Detroit's problems is to double the population of Detroit.  Of course, there we face the problem that there are some jobs that most Americans just won't do.  Living in Detroit is one of those jobs. 

The traditional response to that problem has been to import illegal immigrants from Mexico but that raises other problems.  Hispanics, as we have seen in Southern California, particularly Compton, don't particularly like blacks and can be viewed in this context as an invasive species driving out a fragile native species.  Even more important is that if enough Hispanics lived in Detroit they might be inclined to vote the entrenched black kleptocracy out of office and that can simply not be allowed to happen.

The answer is so obvious that we will kick ourselves for not seeing it sooner.  We need to import a million illegal immigrants from Africa to populate Detroit.  Obama's Aunt Zeituni should be a harbinger for saving America's cities, and more importantly, for saving the corrupt Democratic machines that govern those cities.  Once Detroit's population is restored, we can apply this solution in America's other declining urban centers.

30

No other city has ever succeded or even tried to educate or train their unemployable minorities.  Urban renewal is simply a matter of pricing the trash out and moving young, wanna-be-hip people in.

 

Offering buyouts and relocation bonuses could help.  Take advantage of Kelo while it's still constitutional to seize prime areas while setting up "reservations" where stubborn residents can be placed.

 

 

31 Peruvia has named Detroit as it's new financial capital, and is moving all of its infrastructure there. Fortunately, said infrastructure already looks like the average Detroit neighborhood.

32 I have no doubt that MacDonalds has prototype burger assembly lines.

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I can't find the article now (it may not be on the intertubes), but more than a decade ago McDonald's had a fully automated kiosk operating in a few airports overseas. There was a limited menu, of course, but the system could deliver a standard burger-and-fries meal (freshly-cooked) with no human hands involved.

As you say, I think the reason they never pushed the idea was because it wasn't cost-effective with low-wage human workers. That could change if the minimum wage is raised significantly. I have no doubt that McDonald's has the technology to switch to more automated restaurants pretty quickly if they find it cost-effective to do so. (This goes for most other large fast-food chains.)

33 All cities and towns with large municipal worforces are headed for ruin and Will probably take down most of the country. Take new york for instance, they spend more on retired cips than current employed police officers. This is all unsustainable given that our economy has not only been stagnant but is in fact contracting. We are circling the drain, and no one in the GOP seems to give a damn but we has ta gots ta legalize 11-30 million people at a time when unemployment is really about 15%

34 let it burn

35 Never had to hustle for rent, even on a grad student stipend. But I've always been pretty thrifty and industrious. And I was fortunate enough to have parents who were able to ensure none of their 4 kids incurred any student debt. (No trust fund, though, sadly.) I demand an apology from Monty! Ok, seriously, adversity does build character for those who allow it to and, while unpleasant, is valuable.

36 Cry havoc and slip loose us!

37 Posted by: Monty at July 29, 2013 08:39 AM (G8OwX)

I worked at UPS for a long time, and they were doing automated trailer loading research 20 years ago.

With processors so fast now, I'll bet they are pretty close.

Too bad....that would mean about 100,000 fewer teamster jobs.

38 I demand an apology from Monty!

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Apology willingly and humbly tendered.

39

The answer is so obvious that we will kick ourselves for not seeing it sooner. We need to import a million illegal immigrants from Africa to populate Detroit. Obama's Aunt Zeituni should be a harbinger for saving America's cities, and more importantly, for saving the corrupt Democratic machines that govern those cities. Once Detroit's population is restored, we can apply this solution in America's other declining urban centers.

I think the plan is Chechens and Syrians. no?

40 Counter-counterpoint - essentially the entirety of the ChiCom GDP is government-controlled.

Not really.  There's a huge component that's simply grass roots "chaos capitalism" the PRC government has little interest in "controlling" other than to extract taxes from.  Civil engineering and other large projects, and government run factories excepted of course.

For the most part the chaos capitalism is allowed to run free as long as it doesn't cause the government international problems (ex. software/media piracy).  They understand well that international penetration of the China "brand" is something worth not inhibiting.

41 Yes, the answer is education and training. Basic math. Clear, simple writing. Ability to read at the high school level. If the youth of Detroit got those things, I would bet that there are 500 companies in America who would relocate to Detroit. You forgot the most important part: a work ethic Simply showing up for work on time plays a huge factor in employee reliability and productivity. You could have someone intelligent enough to read, write, and count but that's worth fuck-all if they don't show up at 8AM. BCochran, thanks for the early morning Upton. Things are certainly "up" this morning. That it's on tinypic makes me that much happier because the work firewall doesn't know to block it!

42 Detroit II : the expandening. Coming to a country near you.

43 The stock market is doing great. The top 10% are doing VERY well. If you are not in that top 10% whose fault is it? Obama's? BIG GOVERNMENT? If taxes on the top 10% went up they would have a choice, reinvest or give the money to the government

44

Morning, all!  Ahhh, DOOM.  How we've missed ye,   though you've never been far from our thoughts.   Welcome back, Monty!   How'd the Kyrgs treat you?  Did you have sufficient fish heads in your gruel?

 

The AP catches a glimpse of the obvious: most people are out of work at one time or another in their lives.

 

I already went through a period of joblessness back around 2004-2005.  Does that mean I'm good from hereon out, according to the AP?

45 EC...Barrel

46 Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 29, 2013 08:37 AM (da5Wo)

That's a good one....although it looks like the airbrusher was a little aggressive on her legs.

I have no problem with the meat on her bones!

47 Aww fuck.

48

EC.   *points to barrel*

49 And I see how it is. When you're smart and pretty like Chique, you get the apology.

50 And I see how it is. When you're smart and pretty like Chique, you get the apology.

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That is, and has always been, my policy.

51 Aren't there areas in Germany where they are having to spend tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars widening the pipes in the sewer system because there are not enough people flushing the toilets to move the waste through the pipes? Welcome to the future of the world. I can trace much of the development of my political belief system to growing up across the state from Detroit and knowing by the time I was 11 that there was no way Detroit could survive. I could not comprehend why if it was so obvious to me then it wasn't obvious to the supposed grown ups in charge. Steyn had a wonderfully trenchant blurb up at NRO about how at least everyone in Egypt agrees that the real problem is the Jooooooos. Le plus ca change, le plus c'est la meme chose. I still say that the spark for the emburnening will be when Our Betters decide that the way to solve the problem of public pensions, which will be presented as a problem with all retirment plans, is to seize all 401(k)s and the like and "invest" them in government issued securities that provide for a guaranteed stream of retirement income. Hey, do you think it's fair that a hard working single mother who struggled and slaved for years to save money should watch as her retirement income is cut by over half because of Greedy Wall Street Capitalists? Of course you do, you're not a monster. A visual representation of how I feel about pretty much everything all the time right now - http://youtu.be/oWiJw-0b8fQ

52 That is, and has always been, my policy. Posted by: Monty at July 29, 2013 08:48 AM (G8OwX) I cannot argue with that policy.

53 Awww, look who's here!   It's ickle occam and his inane belief      that    the gubmint should have everyone's money    and that would make everything better!       Isn't he so cute?   I'd just pinch his ickle cheeks and ruffle his foofy hair if I didn't mind getting infested with lice and scabies.

54 they were doing automated trailer loading research 20 years ago.

WMT is working on preloaded restock carts and racks that would be loaded at the distribution centers based on the product location in any particular store and position on the specific shelves.

The preloaded racks would be staged on the truck in optimal extraction order and rolled straight off the truck to the isle where the product gets restocked.

55 Yeah, yeah...I'm going. What's this? It's a note from Washington Nearsider... "Help. Trapped in MWR's slave pit. Need food, water, and clothes. Running out of hope." Ehhh, it's nothing. *tosses note away*

56 A visual representation of how I feel about pretty much everything all the time right now - http://youtu.be/oWiJw-0b8fQ Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking for to celebrate my birthday now. at July 29, 2013 08:49 AM (VtjlW) Did you just link to NIN? *swoon*

57 Aww fuck.

Posted by: EC at July 29, 2013 08:47 AM (GQ8sn)

 

 

See?   Y'all make fun of    the    closed formatting tags   in my nic, but y'all ain't laughing now, are ya?   Huh?   *is smug*

 

*gives EC a   Swiffer Wet Jet and some kerosene*   The Swiffer's to fend off whatever might come at you in the barrel.  The kerosene's to burn it   if it gets too close.

58 There was a discussion on local radio the other day about the "soft skills" (don't know where that term came from) that so many young people are lacking.

Examples included answering and talking on a cell phone during an interview,  showing up for an interview wearing inappropriate clothing such as sweats or short shorts,  prominent and uncovered offensive tattoos (Miss Marple finds almost all tattoos offensive,  but I digress), and undiplomatic comments such as "How much vacation time do I get?" asked right off the bat.

These were often COLLEGE GRADUATES.   I would guess they also do not have a work ethic nor will they show up on time.

59

Half of Egyptians live on $2 a day, and that $2 is about to collapse along with the national currency, and the result will be a catastrophe of, well, biblical proportions.

 

It's long past time to call bullfuckingshit on the $2/day bullfuckingshit.  If the average living budget is $1.85/day, then living on $2/day is well-off, though not by Western standards.

 

Oh yeah - those Western standards are to try to live a $100/day lifestyle on a $85/day income.

60 Aren't there areas in Germany where they are...

Here too..."water saving" low flow shitters cause all sorts of problems.

61 Here too..."water saving" low flow shitters cause all sorts of problems. *lightbulb* My stepson's first 3D printing project: return of the high-flow toilet. I'll be richer than shit!

62 "Help. Trapped in MWR's slave pit. Need food, water, and clothes. Running out of hope."

Ehhh, it's nothing.


*tosses note away*

Posted by: EC at July 29, 2013 08:50 AM (GQ8sn)

 

 

*clucks tongue*   Slave pit?   It is NOT a slave pit.  I happen to have a   lushly appointed,   fully   furnished,  well-ventilated and spacious slave    ABODE, thank you very much.   And I gave Nearsider food and water just last night, so he can quit his bellyaching.

63 Our favorite game to play at Wal-Mart is 'spot the scabies'

64 Seven people drown in seas off France's Mediterranean coast after 80mph winds and unpredictable currents cause treacherous conditions If Barack Obama had beach bum buddies they would be in the South of France

65 Happy birthday, Paladin! I'll see what I can do about the SMOD summoning. *waves* Guaran-fucking-tee you I'm worth more than that. The fact that several generations of my family busted their ass (as I continue to do) so that we don't have to worry as much during lean times doesn't mean shit about our worth. Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 29, 2013 08:30 AM (da5Wo) Yes but you are busting your ass to keep the business going during rough times so I would argue that counts as pretty much the same thing. Also I did not just link to NIN, I linked to NIN + Joker which means I win even harder. Of course then you busted out the Upton. *narrows eyes* Game on.

66 Hahaha...look at Drudge's main headline right now. Good luck with that, Detroit!

67

Aren't there areas in Germany where they are having to spend tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars widening the pipes in the sewer system because there are not enough people flushing the toilets to move the waste through the pipes? Welcome to the future of the world.

 

We built that.

68
   I have a simple response to the idea of seizing any of my assets used for retirement---try it, and I will kill you.

   There is a point, and that would be it.

    I'm quite willing to accept the consequences.

69 Even getting rid of the thousands of abandoned houses in Detroit won't be simple, or cheap. The cost to demolish a home in Detroit runs around $8000 to $10,000 dollars (http://tinyurl.com/odzvtky). There are according to some estimates about 50,000 abandoned and vacant homes in Detroit. That translates into half a billion dollars, more or less, just to tear down all the blight. And that doesn't include any of the funds needed to rebuild or repurpose the sites.

70 Funny. I have yet in 64 years ever gotten a job from a poor man. But? "Eat the rich." Fucking idjits....

71 Posted by: Purp at July 29, 2013 08:50 AM (S3yfV)

The UPS systems require a tight load built from random sized and weighted packages. It would require a 3D analysis of the package, the ability to manipulate it within a trailer, and the speed to keep up with the unloaders at the beginning of the process.

Not a trivial problem, but eventually it will happen.

72 I have,  for some time,  purchased sterling silver items when they are well below market prices.  I told my kids that when I am gone,  quietly remove them as  heirlooms and divvy the stuff up.

Since I often find these things at garage sales or in box lots at auctions,  there is no record of my purchases.  

73 I posted this yesterday but it might have gotten lost at the end of a thread. It's the inspiring story of a man born without arms who works as a engineer at Hendrick Motorsports (connected to NASCAR).-a wonderful story of determination and family support and love: http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=195983

74 You show me somebody who never had to hustle to make the rent during a rough patch, and I'll show you a trust-fund baby who probably isn't worth a mousefart in a hurricane. Some of us are blessed. I've only been unemployed of the sum total of 1 week in the last 3 decades, and that was just to take some time off between jobs.

75 These were often COLLEGE GRADUATES. I would guess they also do not have a work ethic nor will they show up on time.

Five-six years ago I noticed WMT was hiring mostly younger people.  These days I'm seeing a lot more older faces among the staff when I shop. 

The older ones do actually show up, don't come equipped with a cell phone grafted to their skull, don't show up wasted from a night of partying, and have better ability to figure out the little efficiency tricks to get the job done on time.

I once witnessed a store manager in a heated argument with a young employee confiscate their cell phone for the rest of the shift.  The kid just couldn't understand why he couldn't jabber on the cell phone for hours each night and repeatedly not get his aisle restocking completed. 

76 Monty read my silly comment? *swoon* You sir, are no Ace, actually reading the comments.

77

There was a discussion on local radio the other day about the "soft skills" (don't know where that term came from) that so many young people are lacking.

 

One of our local career and tech ed centers makes "soft skills" a required part of the curriculum for their students.  Hard skills are things like how to install brakes, or how to frame a house, or how to take someone's pulse.  The soft skills are the employability skills: ability to work with others;    good   conduct and attitude;      ability to accept feedback and use it to improve    performance; work ethic; and work readiness.     The hard skills each student learns from semester to semester   change as the student progresses through the program, but the soft skills are incorporated into    each student's marks every semester.    It's really a great program.

78 I have a simple response to the idea of seizing any of my assets used for retirement---try it, and I will kill you. There is a point, and that would be it. I'm quite willing to accept the consequences. Posted by: irongrampa at July 29, 2013 08:57 AM (SAMxH) That's why I have that as the front runner in what will start the hot civil war. I used to roll my eyes when people started muttering darkly about that being Their plan and even more so when the usual suspects would try to introduce such a bill. I'm not laughing now. Hell, I could bust out the alter ego and slam together a persuasive sounding encomium to such an action in about five minutes, including time to sip tea and laugh. There will be a push for it and it will get very very ugly very very very quickly when such a bill is passed.

79 Was out of work several times, once for nine months.  That last time I came within a day of losing my house, finally getting the VA to buy it temporarily, then sell it back to me when I was back to work.  That was 22 years ago.  I would not have been close to foreclosure except the oldest was at USC and I made the conscious choice of tuition over mortgage payments. 

I spent the nine months retraining myself to a completely different field...and haven't been out of work since.  Different jobs, but not out of work for a day.

80 Posted by: Purp at July 29, 2013 08:53 AM (S3yfV)

We just installed a new toilet, which admittedly is one of the best low-flows I have seen. But it still isn't great.

The fix is pretty simple. The flapper is a sphere with two holes in it, so it fills with water and quickly closes off the outflow. Just decreasing the size of the holes will increase the time before the outflow closes.

Easy, cheap, and oh-so-satisfying!

81 occam? Love "ignore." You are a fool, clown, & disruptor.

82 Also Rita - http://bit.ly/17b9oBp

83 Of course then you busted out the Upton. *narrows eyes* Game on. Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking for to celebrate my birthday now. at July 29, 2013 08:56 AM (VtjlW) Oh, this is going to be fun. Rules.....eh. Are we limiting to a specific type of post? Or just going for most awesomest?

84

I love this headline over at Drudge:

 

Angelina Jolie Takes a Stand, Opposes Rape in War

 

Uh... good?  I guess?   Though one must ask, isn't    rape in general something to be opposed?  

85 Miss Mare @58. No one needed to tell me never to do any of those things at a job interview. It goes without saying, or so I thought. The problem is that kids going up today are often not taught how to respect others and not to be so self-centered and self absorbed.

86 My stepson's first 3D printing project: return of the high-flow toilet.

Its really just a tank swap.  Might even be able to sell a retrofit extender kit that plugs the old handle hole, and gives another 2-3" of height to a standard tank and a new handle hole.

87 Custom armored vehicle aided Pennsylvania State Police in Latrobe standoff

http://preview.tinyurl.com/kvp5d55

88 Thread needs more doom. This one's downright optimistic, and that's pretty fucked up.

89 Angelina Jolie Takes a Stand, Opposes Rape in War The Brilliance of hollywood.

90 They should start rehabitating Detroit by evacuating the city for 3 months. Then there should be a land rush, like those we saw in those old B&W movies. People in Detroit have to really want to be there or there is no hope.

91 Rules.....eh. Are we limiting to a specific type of post? Or just going for most awesomest? Please, please keep them running on tinypic!

92 CBD -- Brand and model number?

93 Its really just a tank swap. Might even be able to sell a retrofit extender kit that plugs the old handle hole, and gives another 2-3" of height to a standard tank and a new handle hole. Posted by: Purp at July 29, 2013 09:04 AM (S3yfV) Isn't the diameter of the "flow pipe" from the tank to the bowl wider? I want a lot of water flowing through at one time.

94

cost to demolish a home in Detroit runs around $8000 to $10,000 dollars (http://tinyurl.com/odzvtky). There are according to some estimates about 50,000 abandoned and vacant homes in Detroit.

 

Detroit should offer up these abandoned buildings for Demolition    Derbies or somesuch.     But instead of cars ramming into each other, you'd have  cars and trucks and farm equipment ramming into empty buildings. 

95 Please, please keep them running on tinypic! Posted by: EC at July 29, 2013 09:05 AM (GQ8sn) That is a bitch to do. However, as your Marginally Honorable Chairman, I shall make the effort.

96

Even getting rid of the thousands of abandoned houses in Detroit won't be simple, or cheap. The cost to demolish a home in Detroit runs around $8000 to $10,000 dollars (http://tinyurl.com/odzvtky). There are according to some estimates about 50,000 abandoned and vacant homes in Detroit. That translates into half a billion dollars, more or less, just to tear down all the blight. And that doesn't include any of the funds needed to rebuild or repurpose the sites.

 

Posted by: Monty at July 29, 2013 08:59 AM (G8OwX)

 

The EPA at work.

97 I'm sure Jolie struggled for months with thorny ethical issues before reaching that position.

98 Detroit should offer up these abandoned buildings for Demolition Derbies or somesuch. But instead of cars ramming into each other, you'd have cars and trucks and farm equipment ramming into empty buildings. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 29, 2013 09:07 AM (4df7R) Also, new explosives testing grounds.

99 "I think the plan is Chechens and Syrians. no?

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at July 29, 2013 08:45 AM (5lVZz)"

You think that Chechens and Syrians would vote for Dave Bing or Kwame Kilpatrick?  No.  That seems unlikely.

100

Damn dirty sock OFF!

101
DOOM is the mosquito that torments you in your bed at night.
DOOM never sleeps.

102 Angelina Jolie Takes a Stand, Opposes Rape in War What massive courage that must have taken. What a role model/ sarc.

103 You'll notice occam's "solution" is "Moar Detroit".

You have to notice it for occam, because it's a fucking retard and can't do so itself.

104 Did she say rape twice? I like rape.

105 Because I think she's hot... XTina Still hot, but now skinnier. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=149mnab&s=5

106

The Doom thread us back. All is right with the world.

 

 

107 XTina Still hot, but now skinnier. Pre-baby boobs. Still hot.

108 Isn't the diameter of the "flow pipe" from the tank to the bowl wider?

Standard gasket used by 90+ percent of units in the field for that opening is 3". 

109 Oh, this is going to be fun. Rules.....eh. Are we limiting to a specific type of post? Or just going for most awesomest? Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 29, 2013 09:04 AM (da5Wo) Most awesomest though in deference to it being daywalking time, must be SFW with a profanity exception for video clips though it would be polite to note that in the link.

110 They should start rehabitating Detroit by evacuating the city for 3 months. Then there should be a land rush, like those we saw in those old B&W movies. People in Detroit have to really want to be there or there is no hope.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at July 29, 2013 09:05 AM (fBZmK)

 

 

The other necessity?   Get rid of every remaining vestige of the current government.  I mean everything.   Start fresh.     No one's going to want to go to Detroit if it means they have to pay the fucking taxes to keep the ninnies in the municipal gubmint happy.

111 You sir, are no Ace, actually reading the comments.

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Oh, Ace farms that out to junior staff. He's Mr Big Shot now. Even his people have people. Probably has a gold-plated toilet in his executive suite. Has his Valu-Rite vodka delivered by his smoking-hot Peruvian "assistant" between deep-tissue massages. He's event taking to referring to himself in the plural in the corporate memos. "We do not wish to discomfit you, but it has come to our attention...."

Back in the day, he was all about dick jokes and B grade sci-fi pictures. Now? He just sits up in his cavernous office watching cartoons and muttering darkly about his precious bodily fluids.

112 Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 29, 2013 09:06 AM (aDwsi)

http://www.totousa.com/ProductDetail.aspx?productid=943

113 Pre-baby boobs. Still hot. Posted by: EC at July 29, 2013 09:10 AM (GQ8sn) That pic I just posted is from very recently.

114

As America's global reach diminishes, regional power-blocs will hold sway, just as they have always done. It may be that no other country can -- or even wants to -- take on the mantle of global hegemon. It's a pretty thankless job, after all.

 

We specialize in region-by-region domination.  After all, we subsumed most of Genghis Khan's offspring.

115

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 29, 2013 08:30 AM (da5Wo)

 

I dunno what Monty means by "hustle to make rent" but it's about as bad as it's been for the wife and I, and yet we're not in dire straits.

Sure we've slashed costs everywhere, and we're tapping into savings to get through.

Ah, but that's the key isn't it.  Savings.

How you ask?  Well, time's weren't lean we put away $800/month in case of personal DOOM. Also we spent 2.5 years in an apartment that was well under what we could afford. (And prior to that while she was away at Grad school, I lived with my parents and worked two jobs to make sure we had some capital.)

If this country had more savings, DOOM would be less scary.

116

Uh... good? I guess? Though one must ask, isn't rape in general something to be opposed?

 

Certainly in the West that's the view.  Unfortunately it's a rather recent one.  For much of history the opinion was that rape was simply part of the "spoils of war".  In many parts of the world that's still the case.  Additionally, some armies not only tolerate it but actually encourage it as both a means of humiliating their opponents as well as trying to "breed out" their enemies.

117 That pic I just posted is from very recently. Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 29, 2013 09:11 AM (da5Wo) They looked absolutely massive on The Voice.

118
   Time to take the newly minted aggression and channel it into yard work.

    Have the best day possible, good people.

119 Most awesomest though in deference to it being daywalking time, must be SFW with a profanity exception for video clips though it would be polite to note that in the link. Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at July 29, 2013 09:11 AM (VtjlW) Terms accepted. Shinedown - Enemies http://youtu.be/OoHGZFyMCHU Funny video, stay through the end.

120

Certainly in the West that's the view. Unfortunately it's a rather recent one. For much of history the opinion was that rape was simply part of the "spoils of war". In many parts of the world that's still the case. Additionally, some armies not only tolerate it but actually encourage it as both a means of humiliating their opponents as well as trying to "breed out" their enemies.

 

Posted by: Stephanie Mikles at July 29, 2013 09:12 AM (lr3d7)

 

How do you think we grow?

121 Detroit could drop that demolition cost to $0.00 by selling salvage rights for $10 or something like that.

"Old brick" - salable

"weathered board" - salable and chic in some markets

"5/4 T-and-G old growth flooring" - remachinable and very expensive.

Of course old door knobs and any stained glass panes still intact will fetch premium prices.

122 Off, overnight sock.

123 I could've also socked the Soviet Army, but they stopped that after Stalin kicked the bucket.

124 Certainly in the West that's the view. Unfortunately it's a rather recent one. For much of history the opinion was that rape was simply part of the "spoils of war". In many parts of the world that's still the case. Additionally, some armies not only tolerate it but actually encourage it as both a means of humiliating their opponents as well as trying to "breed out" their enemies.

Posted by: Stephanie Mikles at July 29, 2013 09:12 AM (lr3d7)

 

 

Oh yes, I know.     My point is simply that "rape in war" is a particularly    disgusting subset of "rape" in general.   My particular opinion of     all    rapists is they should all be raped themselves, multiple times over, and then stabbed through the soft palate with a rusty corkscrew  and left    for the buzzards.  

125 I know I'm late, but the paragraphs written on Detroit were some of the most compelling, well written paragraphs I've read and I wanted to let Monty know it is appreciated. Thanks.

126 For EC.... http://i43.tinypic.com/fpbars.jpg

127
.....diameter of the "flow pipe"......

Hmmm. I've used that phrase in some of my electronic outreach efforts with my younger supporters.

128 The good news, I guess, is that this development may solve the illegal-immigrant problem with no governmental action required. This is why we need further incentives to convince illegals to continue coming in illegally. And why I have to go to work this morning.

129 Hey, remember when things went sideways, backwards and 'splody in Somalia? And there was only one port in the country capable of bringing things in and moving them around? Somalia has 9 million people. Egypt has 85 million.

130

Detroit could drop that demolition cost to $0.00 by selling salvage rights for $10 or something like that.

 

I suppose any and all copper has already been stripped from most of these properties, else that would fetch a tidy sum, too.

 

Another Drudge headline (other than the laughable Obamacare one):

 

Detroit weighs garage sale of assets...

 

What assets?   What exactly does Detroit have that's worth anything at this point?  Didn't they already sell off    their art?

 

And here's a question:  if Detroit is going through bankruptcy, how can they still be on the hook for that new arena?   Wouldn't any money set aside for that project be used to pay    down   debt owed to creditors?  

131 I wonder what the break-even wage is?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

$13.46/hr -- taxes and insurance dependent as the vary by state

132 Okay, it's great that Angelina opposes rape in war, but how does she feel about rape (or even rape-rape) in photoshoots conducted by brilliant artistes?

133 Well come back, Monty, so you were in that pit, where they kept Ras Al Ghul.

134 Oh yes, I know. My point is simply that "rape in war" is a particularly disgusting subset of "rape" in general. My particular opinion of all rapists is they should all be raped themselves, multiple times over, and then stabbed through the soft palate with a rusty corkscrew and left for the buzzards.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 29, 2013 09:15 AM (4df7R)

 

In terms of celebrity causes, wartime rape is at least a respectable one. 

135 For EC.... http://i43.tinypic.com/fpbars.jpg Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 29, 2013 09:16 AM (da5Wo) I watched an ep where she was wearing a bustier/corset. Holy crap...

136 If this country had more savings, DOOM would be less scary. Posted by: tsrblke at July 29, 2013 09:11 AM (GaqMa) Why save? No, seriously, given that there is currently negative ROI on savings, there's an argument to be made that saving is stupid. After all, if I put $1,000 in a savings account that is earning 0.023% interest, I am actually losing money given inflation. I may be better off putting it into some kind of investment but then I run risk of principal loss.
Now, the obvious counter to that is but then the money is there when there's a rainy day. True enough but there's a reason why it makes more sense to use OPM right now if you have the chance. Also it appears to be my turn - http://bit.ly/UXVwZ6

137 Posted by: Jean at July 29, 2013 09:19 AM (CMlD4)

I meant: what is the minimum wage that would allow MacDonalds to switch to automated production without financial penalty?

138

Regarding McD's.

 

As far as break even goes, I can tell you this, Labor wasn't allowed to go above I think was 30-40% gross sales in any hour and they were fairly rigorous about that with rare exceptions (Labor my spike just before lunch rush as your employees come in and prep).  A thousand dollar hour is considered good for a lunch rush at a "normal" store (i.e. one that's not located near some enhancing factor like a highway or a ballpark) So if you take a wage from $7.50-$15, you pretty much instantly have to reduce half your staff.   And it's not that hard.

Our McD's usually had 10-15 people to run full tilt (we never achieved actual capacity).  But you could do it with as little as 6-8 and your times wouldn't suffer as much as you think.

I can't speak to what they can or can't automate other than to say, I suspect human interaction helps them.

Also when something goes wrong, you need at least one human there to fix it.

Having said that, they tried some crazy things back in the day when I worked there: Drive though windows that actually dialed call centers rather than in restaurant workers for example.

The thing was though, there's just enough chaos in fast food that made the automation hard. (Which is why they abandoned the centralized drive though ordering.)  I'm not saying it's not possible I'm just saying we're still at a point where it's not necessary.  Based on my 2005 final wage, I'd say that cut off point is about $9/hour (for a good employee) anything above that and they'll seriously consider cranking up the automation.

139 And I don't mean   wouldn't Detroit take a hard look at their finances   and decide on their own "This $450 million for the new arena would be better used to pay down XYZ debts."   I mean   wouldn't that money be frozen (if it even exists) or seized as part of any bankruptcy ruling?

140 Miss Marple, sorry for calling you Miss Mare above. I blame Bush. And my phone. And the middle class.

141

Hey, remember when things went sideways, backwards and 'splody in Somalia? And there was only one port in the country capable of bringing things in and moving them around?

 

Somalia has 9 million people.

 

Egypt has 85 million.

 

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 29, 2013 09:18 AM (659DL)

 

Plus, the Suez Canal is a lot easier to close than the Gulf of Aden.

142 I meant: what is the minimum wage that would allow MacDonalds to switch to automated production without financial penalty? This is going to happen anyway. In fact, most of us could do better (and faster) placing our order at a kiosk.

143 Well come back, Monty, so you were in that pit, where they kept Ras Al Ghul.

--------------

Well...it was advertised as a "spa". It looked a lot nicer in the brochure.

144 In terms of celebrity causes, wartime rape is at least a respectable one.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 29, 2013 09:19 AM (lr3d7)

 

Very true.

 

I actually have quite a bit of respect for Angelina Jolie.   She's one of the rare Hollywood talents who actually walks the walk in addition to talking the talk.  I still don't agree with most if not all of her politics, but at least she doesn't just spew invectives and call   it   a day.   She   genuinely gets involved.

 

It was just an odd headline.

145 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 29, 2013 09:22 AM (659DL)

But most of the employees are producing food rather than dealing with customers, so the savings from production automation are possibly more significant.

146

Miss Marple, sorry for calling you Miss Mare above. I blame Bush. And my phone.

And the middle class.

 

Posted by: Chique d'afrique at July 29, 2013 09:21 AM (r+7wo)

 

 

*golf clap*  well remembered!

147 #140  LOL!  No offense taken.   I have such trouble with auto-correct on my phone that I rarely use it for posting.  I can't tell you how many incomprehensible and sometimes insulting text messages I have sent!

148 Back to me? Hips don't lie..... http://i40.tinypic.com/104mb2c.jpg

149 Rather then $10 demo rights - they could sell the right to burns shit for $20 bucks and just let it go like a viking raid

150 BTW, who is this    doughy-faced woman who looks like a lesbian   Pissy Chrissy Matthews who is supposedly going to take over from Helicopter Ben at the Fed?   She looks like she should be pressed into a pan, filled with cherries and baked into a pie.

151

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 29, 2013 09:18 AM (4df7R)

Setting aside the city buildings (which Detroit actually owns.)

They also own the art museum, and the art in it.

Which includes (among other things) Van Gough's self portrait. I heard $200mil being tossed around, dunno if that's total art value of just the Van Gough.

How the hell a city ended up with ownership of a priceless (or at least hugely priced) piece of art, I have no fucking clue.  St. Louis has a large Zoo, and decent sized art museum, but they're run by private non-profits to avoid this type of problem.

152

Oh, good.  I see Jimmah's going back to NoKo.

 

Hey,    Kim Jong Unni!   Keep him, will ya?

153

In certain circles, some forms of rape are respectable, or at least condoned.

154 Funny. I have yet in 64 years ever gotten a job from a poor man. But? "Eat the rich." Fucking idjits.... /"eat the rich" resonates amongst the unemployed when the rich horde, holding out for better times to invest (elsewhere), and refuse to employ stateside. It isn't that the trickle-down theory is shit. But the "because I could" people diverting the flow into their own pockets are shit.

155 150 BTW, who is this doughy-faced woman who looks like a lesbian Pissy Chrissy Matthews who is supposedly going to take over from Helicopter Ben at the Fed? She looks like she should be pressed into a pan, filled with cherries and baked into a pie. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 29, 2013 09:26 AM (4df7R) No fucking way, in any connotation, am I eating her. No.

156 It's time I spoke out: I hate stuff that is bad

157 I read the whole post along with the links.  DOOM!  Relax, we're soaking in it.  Great post Monty.  Talking to a friend yesterday about the situation we both find ourselves in.  It is sad and scary at the same time.  I started a business because over the last three years I have been on and off employed.  Quite a change for me.  It really messes with your mind and your self worth.

158 tsrblke---why can't they go with a automated order screen?  Like Sheetz, that would cut staff and reduce my fury at trying to order a burger without pickles in spanish

159

Setting aside the city buildings (which Detroit actually owns.)
They also own the art museum, and the art in it.

 

The problem with selling the buildings is you're then on the hook for the property taxes.   Ixnay.

 

And I wasn't sure if they'd sold the art already or not; I know I'd heard that talked about last week.   I've got about $0.85 to spare, so I'd be willing to grab anything from the clearance bin.   Normally I'd expect to pay more, but any   artwork    owned by the City of Detroit is permanently marred by having been   owned by the City of Detroit, and therefore should be offered at a steep discount.  

160 A lot of those joints from the early 1900's got some sweet reclaimable hardwood flooring in them though...some of it is even quartersawn stuff (extremely wear resistant compared to flat sawn).

Back then even "cheap" houses came with what would be considered "premium" high dollar floors today.

161 158 tsrblke---why can't they go with a automated order screen? Like Sheetz, that would cut staff and reduce my fury at trying to order a burger without pickles in spanish Posted by: Jean at July 29, 2013 09:29 AM (CMlD4) You ever had to stand behind some LIV at a Coke Freestyle? That's why.

162 Dump.

163

No fucking way, in any connotation, am I eating her.

No.

 

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 29, 2013 09:28 AM (da5Wo)

 

 

Point.

164

"I meant: what is the minimum wage that would allow MacDonalds to switch to automated production without financial penalty?"

 

Automation follows the laws of diminishing returns.  The first dollars spent on the easiest and most obvious procedures gives the best return, but as the tasks become more varied, the costs escalate exponentially.

 

For some things, its less expensive to train a chimpanzee than try to build a robot to do the same thing.

165 Detroit's answer is quite simple, really. Build a new hockey stadium.

166 "I meant: what is the minimum wage that would allow MacDonalds to switch to automated production without financial penalty?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 29, 2013 09:20 AM (gqgiP)"

Regardless of wage, it will happen when Obamacare becomes unavoidable, like if they drop the hours for being considered full time down to 20 or something like that.

167 I see Jimmah's going back to NoKo. Maybe they'll take him hostage and we won't care.

168

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 29, 2013 09:22 AM (659DL)

 

You'd think that, but McD's would likely have to radically simplify their menu for that to happen and/or change their entire pricing structure.

Hell, I can come up with 6 different combinations for a Big Mac Meal off the top of my head (and I'm not talking about changing the actual food, just ordering combinations.)

Wait, 10.

Plus another 5 that people have tried to order (and make a certain level of sense) but aren't valid "combinations" (because if they were, it'd cut into McD's margins.)

It's even worse for breakfast.

Take an Egg McMuffin  meal.  If memory serves, possible drink combinations include: Orange Juice, Coffee, soda (and shake, but only because shake was always possible).

Milk, not a possible combination, margins weren't high enough. (The latte's didn't exist then, so I dunno about those.)

I'm not saying the job is hard, but it does require a bit of training in it's current state.

169 Nothing like a little DOOM with my coffee to make me want to open my veins.

Seriously, Monty -- missed you.

170

Posted by: Jean at July 29, 2013 09:29 AM (CMlD4)

I was typing a response to that as you posted.

171 #159   I am gobsmacked that the city owns art.  The idea that cultural treasures are owned by those idiots is appalling,  since I do not trust them to care for them properly.

I spent a few hours one day going through that web site of Detroit in ruins.   There were buildings that had been abandoned with furniture,  pianos, etc. still there!

I have a particular love for old furniture and architectural pieces,  and it made me sick.  Such waste!

MY prescription is to sell salvage rights by the block,  and send the National Guard in to protect people while the buildings are salvaged and demolished.

172 "154 Funny. I have yet in 64 years ever gotten a job from a poor man. But? "Eat the rich." Fucking idjits....

/"eat the rich" resonates amongst the unemployed when the rich horde, holding out for better times to invest (elsewhere), and refuse to employ stateside.

It isn't that the trickle-down theory is shit. But the "because I could" people diverting the flow into their own pockets are shit.

Posted by: panzernashorn at July 29, 2013 09:28 AM (MhA4j)"

So what you are saying is that they are wise to keep their wealth outside of the United States so that it cannot be appropriated?

173

Remote call centers for McD's ordering is a great idea.  I know the prototype stores results have been mixed, but the concept is too good to fail.

 

It doesn't make sense to take the orders at the locations when it could be done so much better elsewhere.

174 Sell Detroit to the Arny as a massive live fire MUOT training ground?

175

From a senior member of the Loyal Order of the Terminally Boned, Chicago (via the Sun-Times - http://bit.ly/18II28W):

 

- In 2012, the unallocated cash on hand fell from $167 million to $33 million...because of the introduction of "honest" accounting.

- Had Chicago fully-funded its employee pension plans last year, the total fund balance of $231 million and the "leased asset reserves" (I believe that's the remaining proceeds from the leasing of the Skyway and parking meters) of $625 million would have been completely wiped out.

 

- The long-term debt load has nearly hit $29 billion, $10,780 for every man, woman, and child in Chicago.

176

It's even worse for breakfast.
Take an Egg McMuffin meal. If memory serves, possible drink combinations include: Orange Juice, Coffee, soda (and shake, but only because shake was always possible).

 

Posted by: tsrblke at July 29, 2013 09:33 AM (GaqMa)

 

Wait a minute; I could've had a shake with my Egg McMuffin?

 

BTW, the entire McCafe menu is a possible drink combo in the morning.

177 MY prescription is to sell salvage rights by the block, and send the National Guard in to protect people while the buildings are salvaged and demolished.


Posted by: Miss Marple at July 29, 2013 09:36 AM


I would suspect that all that's left to salvage are bricks and boards.  It seems likely that any wiring, fixtures and salable items are already gone.

178 A friend of mine was working at the GM plant at the Hamtramck city line and there was a homeless guy with a shopping cart full of stolen copper being chased by wild dogs. It is the stuff of The Book of Eli.

179 Posted by: tsrblke at July 29, 2013 09:33 AM (GaqMa)


That suggests that fast food places ought to be developing apps so that people can order with their smart phones.  Obviously, security is going to be a really important part of the system and obviously, not everybody is going to choose to do this instantly, but it is the sort of thing that can be phased in and the bugs worked out with a small group of early adopters and eventually be the normal way that people get their food at drive up windows.  The normal McDonalds crew might be 3 to 5 people tending the machines and handling problems.

180

Well...it was advertised as a "spa". It looked a lot nicer in the brochure.

 

Posted by: Monty at July 29, 2013 09:23 AM (G8OwX)

 

Hey, we promised a reset of your clock, not beauty or sanity.

181

A friend of mine was working at the GM plant at the Hamtramck city line and there was a homeless guy with a shopping cart full of stolen copper being chased by wild dogs.

 

It is the stuff of The Book of Eli.

 

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 29, 2013 09:48 AM (l3vZN)

 

You know it's bad when feral dogs want copper.

182 Let this be a lesson to you kids - do drink and sock.

183 You'd think that, but McD's would likely have to radically simplify their menu for that to happen and/or change their entire pricing structure. I'm not so sure. The next gen soda machines from Coke are treed icon choices that are easy to operate.

184

Sell Detroit to the Arny as a massive live fire MUOT training ground?

 

Posted by: Jean at July 29, 2013 09:41 AM (CMlD4)

 

Come on; we specialize in destruction, not urban renewal.

 

Ow, my back.

185

Posted by: jwest at July 29, 2013 09:41 AM (u2a4R)

 

Too much local chaos at the local store.

The results were mixed because I'm on the ground at the local store so I can quickly handle any funkiness that arises. A call center can't.

Also your order taker usually doubles as your money taker too, so it didn't really save any resources. (And if you have a dedicated order take they'll usually dishwash with downtime or they're running for the "presenter" (the guy who hands the food out the window.)

The automated drink machine was often a disaster BTW. I constantly broke, crushed cups, underpoured, or various other things.

186 You know it's bad when feral dogs want copper. It's all fun until they test that first nuke, laughing boy.

187

I'm not so sure. The next gen soda machines from Coke are treed icon choices that are easy to operate.

 

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 29, 2013 09:52 AM (659DL)

 

Unless you're a LIV.  After all, they're the majority who, back in the day, simply let the VCR flash 12:00.

188

It's all fun until they test that first nuke, laughing boy.

 

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 29, 2013 09:53 AM (659DL)

 

Bow wow BOOM!

189

Remote call centers for McD's ordering is a great idea. I know the prototype stores results have been mixed, but the concept is too good to fail.

 

Just like Detroit!

 

190

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 29, 2013 09:52 AM (659DL)

True, but there are only 50 soda combinations in that coke machine.

And the margins on them are all roughly equal.

Want to fuck up McD's day really quickly?  Order a double Cheeseburger meal, Add Mayo and Tomatoes, replace the soda with 2 milks.

The rough price of the meal itself is more or less the same, but you just tanked the margins. (Which is why an employee is there to try to steer you away from some of those things, or enforce various rules. Often those rules are simple like: If a customer is obviously trying to turn a lower priced sandwich into an exact equivalent of a higher priced one, you sell them the higher priced one. Also soda's are replaceable with milks.)

191 Welcome back Monty!

192 Posted by: tsrblke at July 29, 2013 09:59 AM (GaqMa) The choice trees fulfill the same function. If people can use an iPhone, they can order their own Big Mac.

193

If people can use an iPhone, they can order their own Big Mac.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 29, 2013 10:01 AM (659DL)

 

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.

194

Posted by: tsrblke at July 29, 2013 09:59 AM (GaqMa)

 

Wait a minute, I could add mayo and tomatoes to my Plain Jane McCheese?

195 Guess I hit my limit of socks for the day - that's now the third damn dirty sock I left on too long.

196 Posted by: Paladin at July 29, 2013 08:33 AM (ycm4Q)


Happy Birthday. More LEOs. Goodness there are a bunch of us here.

I remember seeing a Leo zodiac t-shirt in San Diego once for us.
"I'm not arrogant...I'm just better than you."
to this day I regret not buying it...even though it would have been a medium in stead of the XXL I wear now.  

197

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 29, 2013 10:01 AM (659DL)

I do get the idea in principle, but having run a McD's register before, the sheer amount of choices is somewhat staggering.  And as I said, there was no hard stop for "yeah we see you're trying to create a Big Mac there, No." That was all done by the human.

And you give the average customer far to much credit.  Lots of my customers had trouble ordering with prompts from me, I can't imagine how it'd go with them on their own.

Plus, never underestimate the power of suggestion. It's a huge part of the McD's business model, and it works best with a human doing it. (That and McD's numbers seemed to show at least then that people responded better to having a person greet them.)

McD's could tell me how my sales would adjust when a Dairy Queen opened a mile down the road, they already knew. I'm fairly certain if kiosk ordering made sense in the big picture they'd do it.

198

199 I just noticed the cat in the picture.

200 Monty, I apologize for being late to the doom but I am securing a cleaning team for the transition to renting the house.

I just wanted to say on Detroit:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!

Coming soon to other Metros near well just about everyone.

The tragedy is there is no reason you cannot have a renewed and streamlined Detroit except: outrageous wage demands, lack of willingness to adapt to an altered economic landscape, political graft and subtrefuge, inflexibility and greed on the part of PEUs, functional crippling cultural rot, out of control regulatory fiat, and an unwillingness to use eminent domain to allow the scavenging of sun resources and fallow land...in sum "Democrats."

201 You've been missed, Sir.

202 13 Purp,

None of this is rocket science, the only answer to economic stability is cheaper energy and competitive wages indexed to price for goods and services through a genuine strong currency.

This would require the utilization of our natural resources and the blessed environuts to endure a boom.

Ergo it will never happen, the sons of bitches have gained the power to control the entire national economy through lawfare and a complicit to the conspiracy EPA.

203 The DOOm in Peruvia is magnificent. Posted a #Peruvia limerick.

204 Sweet Lady Doom...Let's make out!

205

If Republicans have the ability to, for "once"  this time mold a message that will sparkle in the eyes of even the bottom rung low info voters,

The 63 year Democratcia/Socialatta pimp dance of "DETROITSCHKA!!"

very well could be an epic Waterloo that would sweep 2014 AND 2016 back into the red........plus getting that bitch Hillary twat-staked to the ground on

Bengaz would be a fine twist of the screw lubed by prison terms for her minions...

 

"priceless..."

 

WTF!!!! I can fuckin dream can't I????

(Even better if "Calibonya" has to bend over and do da perp walk with "Bath House Jerry" at the helm........

Still, even with ALL the red meat....the Repubican's may still find a way to put the enema tube up their own asses in the end...(HEY double oun tonte )

  

206 Democrats think if you plant trees in the desert, the desert will be transformed into a wonderful garden.  Actually, it will be transformed into a desert with a bunch of dead trees.  The reason?  Because the environment is not conducive to survival.


This is the problem Detroit faces.  They can build sports arenas and Renaissance Centers all they want.  The Democrats have transformed Detroit into an environment where business cannot survive and where even civilization hangs on by a thread.

207

Remember, lest we forget....DETROIT.....MOTOR CITY.......8 MILE

UNIONS...DEMOCRATES...UNIONS...DEMOCRATES

FOR 63 MUTHA-FO YEARS....yall!

TERMINAL RECTAL CANCER......

 

"HILLARY!!!!"-  2016.... A Colostomy with a "relaxed hair pouch" that will sure hold your shit together.....no doubt......

208 There are according to some estimates about 50,000 abandoned and vacant homes in Detroit. That translates into half a billion dollars, more or less, just to tear down all the blight. Fire is your friend. Also, LAST!