August 12, 2013

DOOM: The Fresh-Maker!
— Monty

DOOOOM

Times were so hard in England during the Great Famine of 1315 that no bread could be found even for the King himself. So, you know, perspective.

20 things 20-year-olds don't get. It's a good list, with some caveats. But I can boil the list down to only three basic items: 1. Be on time; 2. Hustle; 3. Listen more and talk less. Just showing up is half the battle. If you just arrive on time, dressed in the proper clothes for the job, and be ready to work, you'd be amazed at how far you'll go.

Incentives matter. Generous disability benefits combined with lax oversight and partisan liberal resistance to reform means that SSDI is a reliable and low-risk way for dishonest people to live off the public dole indefinitely. (The UK is suffering from almost exactly the same problem.) Check this out (emphasis mine):

We find that among the estimated 23 percent of applicants on the margin of program entry, employment would have been 28 percentage points higher had they not received benefits. The effect is heterogeneous, ranging from no effect for those with more severe impairments to 50 percentage points for entrants with relatively less severe impairments.

In a normally-functioning market economy, private businesses are not social service agencies. It's a socialist or Fascist economic system that seeks to integrate the private sector and the public sector and meld it into a single, unified bureaucracy. Much of the burden of Obamacare, for example, rests on the notion that business owners will act as de facto agents of the government. Government policy compliance is a notorious sink for cash; policy enforcement even more so.

Given a choice between wizened little gnome Paul Krugman and intellectual titan Milton Friedman, Friedman wins by such a hilarious margin that I feel kind of bad for Kruggie. But Krugman gonna be Krugman, a little ratty dog who exists only to yap and pee on the rug. Friedman looks down from on high and laughs.

Public pension shortfalls are "everyone's problem"? Maybe, but maybe not. Taxpayers can still vote with their feet, and many will choose to do so rather than be sheared like sheep by ever-more-desperate politicians in failing cities. And note this fallacy:

No matter how gracefully such changes can be accomplished, it wonÂ’t be fair to expect workers and retirees to be the only ones to sacrifice. After all, they are not the people who set the unaffordable policies in the first place.

Some jurisdictions will have to help meet their pension obligations by cutting spending elsewhere, finding new revenue or both. Those steps wonÂ’t be popular, but this is a shortfall too large to close easily or cheaply.

Taxpayers will not tolerate the kind of tax increases that would be necessary to close the fiscal hole many cities are looking at, which leaves bankruptcy. And so far, we've seen precious little "sacrifice" from public sector workers. Taxpayers and bond-holders have so far been asked to bear the full brunt of pension shortfalls, but that day is ending. Pensioners can't escape all responsibility for their own predicament, especially those who belong to unions that pushed for these unsustainable benefit packages in the first place. There are no innocents in this story.

It's not just public-sector pensions that are driving cities into bankruptcy, either. Retiree healthcare is a broken faucet gushing red ink onto the ledger. Healthcare benefits are harder to account for than pension benefits, especially given the "creative" ways that many municipalities classify the spending. Any estimate of the true costs of retiree healthcare is bound to be inaccurate, and cities have shown a marked reluctance to push for more rigorous methods out of fear of the outcome.

Elon Musk's new project reminds me of that Simpsons episode about the monorail. Monorail! Monorail! Monorail!

(Thanks to Arthur K. for the DOOM kitty.)

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Posted by: Monty at 04:00 AM | Comments (123)
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1 "1. Be on time; 2. Hustle; 3. Listen more and talk less. Just showing up is half the battle. If you just arrive on time, dressed in the proper clothes for the job, and be ready to work, you'd be amazed at how far you'll go." Too many black yutes think that that is racist.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 12, 2013 04:18 AM (+98Gb)

2 Worked for me.

I have weak skillz and hate to work.  However, I am famous for always coming to work, neatly dressed, and willing to give anything a shot.

Posted by: trainer's looking for a Militia to join... at August 12, 2013 04:20 AM (K5X44)

3 DOOOOOOM!!! 'Morning, all.

Posted by: rickl at August 12, 2013 04:22 AM (sdi6R)

4 So, it turns out government is the source of the problems.  Who could have foreseen that?!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 12, 2013 04:23 AM (xjpRj)

5 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 12, 2013 04:23 AM (/PCJa)

6 Ironically, if I sit here reading DOOM for much longer, I'll be late for work.

Posted by: rickl at August 12, 2013 04:23 AM (sdi6R)

7 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 12, 2013 04:24 AM (/PCJa)

8 My new license plate for the scooter reads "DOOM". I have said for years, "Motorcycles, chainsaws and redheads: Eventually all of them will try to kill you." Tip of the headband to Monty's doom posts. Glad you are back.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at August 12, 2013 04:24 AM (f/Y6g)

9 Ah some fresh doom before I wander off

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 12, 2013 04:31 AM (4+uhW)

10 No matter how gracefully such changes can be accomplished, it wonÂ’t be fair to expect workers and retirees to be the only ones to sacrifice. Ah yes. The F word. Wonder how the dinosaurs or the dodo birds feel about that word?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 12, 2013 04:32 AM (659DL)

11 J.J., it's not just blacks--we've got a whole generation that think rules are optional.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 12, 2013 04:33 AM (659DL)

12 No matter how gracefully such changes can be accomplished, it wonÂ’t be fair to expect workers and retirees to be the only ones to sacrifice. After all, they are not the people who set the unaffordable policies in the first place. Fair is a place with a Ferris Wheel and Corn-dogs. It's got nothing to do with public policy. The fallacy also forgets this: it was the workers (whether an actual union or other "professional group") who colluded with public officials to "set the unaffordable policies in the first place." The Tax-payers had no say.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 12, 2013 04:33 AM (/PCJa)

13 "1. Be on time; 2. Hustle; 3. Listen more and talk less. Just showing up is half the battle. If you just arrive on time, dressed in the proper clothes for the job, and be ready to work, you'd be amazed at how far you'll go." Man, ain't that the damn truth! 20 somethings think that they are entitled to a paycheck. Hell, they don't even think they should have to show up for it. And don't ask me how I know that because the answer isn't good for my blood pressure.

Posted by: Bayou City at August 12, 2013 04:36 AM (8yWf/)

14 Welcome back AllenG!!  Don't forget to burn it all down and scatter the stones.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 12, 2013 04:36 AM (4+uhW)

15 J.J., it's not just blacks--we've got a whole generation that think rules are optional. A couple of them (generations) actually. And it's true that such attitudes occur across all ethnicities. What's interesting (to me) is that if you tell an Hispanic "hey, you know you could get a haircut, show up on time, and not steal from your boss," he might not listen to you, and he may call you names, but "racist" won't be one of them. Try the same thing to the average black wanna-be thug, and that's probably the 2nd or 3rd word out of his mouth.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 12, 2013 04:36 AM (/PCJa)

16 Had an older black patient the other night tell me that so many black yutes voted for Bammer because they thought he would legalize marijuana.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 12, 2013 04:37 AM (Zswg6)

17

"A lot of state and local governments have too much debt, too generous public pensions. We need a national conversation on how to fix this."

 

I think we all know what this means, Federal bail-outs for everyone!

Posted by: Registered Voter at August 12, 2013 04:38 AM (RlPjE)

18

'Doo doo doo doo, doo-doo, do-Wah!'

It doesn't matter what comes

Fresh goes better in life,

with Doom fresh and full of life!


Nothing gets to you, staying fresh staying cool

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at August 12, 2013 04:39 AM (3ZtZW)

19 Good mornin rons, I once mentored a young tattooed gentleman who had a great work ethic but wouldn't shut up and didn't understand the value of EQ, (Emotional Qoutiant). He is now a manager at his business. Take the time to sit and chat with the young ones. Be gentle but honest, share your experiances. Give them a few tools to navigate the shitstorm that is corporate America. You would be surprised how some may respond. This one had no father and anger issues, 10 years later I couldn't be more proud if he was my own son. Some of these kids just need a little love and attention. It's also Prolly be best if you stick with your own gender when doing mentoring. Protects all patries.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 12, 2013 04:40 AM (XIxXP)

20 Yes, it's not just a black attitude. But the only reason I said that is because that group of people set the pattern for how other allegedly "oppressed" groups behave. And they behave that way because white liberals/Democrats have made them that way, and it's reinforced through music, film and other cultural outlets. Chuck D., Snoop Dog, Trayvon = authentic Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice = sell-out, race traitor, Uncle Tom, not down with the struggle, etc.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 12, 2013 04:42 AM (+98Gb)

21 Amen to the show up clean and dressed properly and ladies, unless you have gorgeous legs and pay to have them waxed and buffed, either wear longer skirts or put on some hose. Fat sweaty bumpy white legs are not a professional look. Some people show up for office work in attire that I wouldn't wear to clean out the garage. Grunge and sleeves of tattoos just announce how self-absorbed you are. Rant closed. ...cause I could go on and on...

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 12, 2013 04:43 AM (GS1WZ)

22 If the only thing Obama had done was to legalize marijuana I wouldn't give a damn.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at August 12, 2013 04:43 AM (3ZtZW)

23 Nice doom Monty...just wanted to say hey have missed you buddy.

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 12, 2013 04:44 AM (dCa1/)

24 My dad (we'll, the man that raised me) always used to tell me "Fair is a little circus that comes to town once a year. The sooner you learn that, the better off you'll be." That, and "I'll kick your ass up between your shoulder blades" pretty much prepared me for life.

Posted by: shredded chi at August 12, 2013 04:45 AM (O66FG)

25 That, and "I'll kick your ass up between your shoulder blades" pretty much prepared me for life. Posted by: shredded chi at August 12, 2013 08:45 AM (O66FG) LOL, your dad and my dad must be from the same generation.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 12, 2013 04:46 AM (XIxXP)

26 Ah, 20 year olds. My son went to his summer job on Friday properly dressed (his job requires a suit), with shined shoes on, ID in hand, and he arrived on time. I was proud of him. All was well, except (as I learned at the end of the day) he decided not to shave. "Why did you not shave?", I asked. "It's almost the weekend, Dad!"

Posted by: MTF at August 12, 2013 04:48 AM (ZuiHO)

27 Speaking of DOOM!!! I was in Northern Michigan for most of two weeks (4 days of travel time). The people there (by and large) are not exactly rich; most are what might be called "lower-middle class" or perhaps "working poor." The economy is such that there just aren't that many who are affluent in the area. Nevertheless, with very few exceptions, things were clean (including buildings) and in good repair. When someone was dressed shabbily, they were one of: 1) a tourist, 2) not working, or 3) obviously trying to dress decently and just having to rely on very old clothes. I liked it there (except for the weather- there's something unnatural about 75 degree days in August). On the way back home, we stopped in St. Louis to see the Gateway Arch. While there, we went to Pappy's Smokehouse (the ribs are a Religious Experience), which is kind of downtown-ish. I saw more urban blight in the 5 minutes it took to get from the river front to Pappy's than I had seen anywhere else in my life- with the exception of the one time I've been through Detroit. The difference isn't money. It isn't race. It's a mindset that says, "They owe me."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 12, 2013 04:51 AM (/PCJa)

28 Good morning, fellow doometic morons.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 12, 2013 04:52 AM (1EJ2w)

29 AllenG, they don't 'own' their failure.  The Man is keeping them down.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 12, 2013 04:53 AM (4+uhW)

30 The difference isn't money. It isn't race. It's a mindset that says, "They owe me." Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 12, 2013 08:51 AM (/PCJa) Hi AG!, Glad your trip was successful. Meaning, you are home safe.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 12, 2013 04:53 AM (XIxXP)

31 Just finished the Monday Morning Power Point so I can sit in the Monday Morning meeting for an hour and a half looking at everyone else's Power Point. Productivity. It's not just for breakfast anymore.

Posted by: blaster at August 12, 2013 04:54 AM (W6bkf)

32 " LOL, your dad and my dad must be from the same generation. " Career Navy. Ret'd master chief. A real man. Sadly, we lost him in 2000 to lung cancer. Another favorite... Of any of us kids couldn't find *whatever and made the mistake of asking him of it's whereabouts -"if it was up your ass you'd know where it was."

Posted by: shredded chi at August 12, 2013 04:54 AM (O66FG)

33 AllenG, they don't 'own' their failure. The Man is keeping them down. Exactly. Never mind that "The Man" is all that's enabling their lifestyle. Hi AG!, Glad your trip was successful. Meaning, you are home safe. Thanks, OSP. We had fun. Of course, coming home to a 105 degree day was a bit of a shock, but we'll all live, I expect.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 12, 2013 04:56 AM (/PCJa)

34 Another favorite... Of any of us kids couldn't find *whatever and made the mistake of asking him of it's whereabouts -"if it was up your ass you'd know where it was." Posted by: shredded chi at August 12, 2013 08:54 AM (O66FG) Now see, My dad was X Nay.. He would would say, "If it was going up your ass at 30 Knots you'd know where it was."

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 12, 2013 04:57 AM (XIxXP)

35 I know a woman my age. Married, several grown kids.  Husband has been gainfully employed all during their marriage.

She's been on disability for about 20 years now.  Not that she was ever really working to begin with, mind you.  She went a little bonkers back in the day, running up some really nice bills (to the point where they cut up her credit cards).  Had some substance problems.  Diagnosed with whatever the flavor of the week was back then.

Think she's gonna get off that fucking gravy train? Think she's even LOOKED for work in the last 10 years?  Why should she if she's being PAID to be the stay-at-home mommy?

Oh yeah, it's not just a ghetto thing...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 12, 2013 04:57 AM (wtvvX)

36 Just finished the Monday Morning Power Point so I can sit in the Monday Morning meeting for an hour and a half looking at everyone else's Power Point. I hate meetings. I especially hate meetings with Power Point. I even more especially hate meetings where I'm expected to watch 20 different Power Point presentations. Just let me work, darn it. Of course, I type that as I sit here waiting for the guy who was covering for me for two weeks to get here so he can explain to me what changes he made to my code...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 12, 2013 04:58 AM (/PCJa)

37

Greetings, people  in my  computer.

 

What fresh DOOM! is this?   'Tis Monty, who is like unto the Monday as is the, um, uh, something.

 

Or something.  SNAFU.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 12, 2013 04:58 AM (0HooB)

38 After a career largely spent documenting the art and architecture significant to the life and travels of Saint Francis Xavier, the wife will be visiting his tomb tomorrow morning in Goa. If there was one day I wish I could be with her in India, it's tomorrow.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 05:00 AM (ZshNr)

39 Some of these kids just need a little love and attention. It's also Prolly be best if you stick with your own gender when doing mentoring. Protects all patries. IOW, no Filnering!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2013 05:00 AM (FNtJ6)

40 OT Mary Katharine Ham had a baby girl, named (ofcourse) Georgia. Congrats to MKH! JackM hardest hit.

Posted by: EC at August 12, 2013 05:00 AM (GQ8sn)

41 After a career largely spent documenting the art and architecture significant to the life and travels of Saint Francis Xavier, the wife will be visiting his tomb tomorrow morning in Goa. If there was one day I wish I could be with her in India, it's tomorrow.

 

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 09:00 AM (ZshNr)

 

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She don't have a hair on her ass if she doesn't plank on top of it and send you a pic.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 12, 2013 05:01 AM (CJjw5)

42 put on some hose.

It's 2013. I haven't seen anyone but old ladies and cross-dressing men wear "hose" in  years.

*shrug*  I'd rather be judged by my work than superficial shit like the crease of my pants (that's turned out so well for us, hasn't it?), but I think we've established I'm a failure at life.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 12, 2013 05:01 AM (/kI1Q)

43 Yummy yummy DOOM. Schrodinger's cat is supposed to be in a black box, though.
 
Yeah, those poor oppressed union workers really need to be made whole. After all, they sacrifice so much -- like getting plastic surgery for free, and refusing to give it up. Also, they don't like cleaning up spilled milk.
 
Buffalo teachers say cleaning up milk is for little people, will keep free plastic surgery (article title)
 
http://tinyurl.com/kfzchz4 (Daily Caller, 4 days ago)

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 12, 2013 05:01 AM (ccXZP)

44 I'll E-mail her that suggestion right now.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 05:01 AM (ZshNr)

45

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 12, 2013 08:51 AM (/PCJa)

 

Welcome back- and Pappy's ribs are not to be missed, I've planned trips around a stop there.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at August 12, 2013 05:02 AM (0tHG6)

46 Also, I discovered that my F-i-L has no idea how to handle guns beyond the "point-and-click" level. He let us borrow his .22 to teach my son how to shoot. What he didn't tell us was the thing had a pull tougher than my XD and hadn't been cleaned in years. Yeah, that was a fiasco. Then, my B-i-L and I pulled out the handguns and shot some targets. All well and good. My F-i-L decides to play, too. So he borrows my B-i-L's pistol (a Ruger 9MM) and, after being instructed how to hold it properly etc., manages to have the widest spread I've ever seen from 10 yards AND cut his hand with rack-bite. I'm not sure why I'm surprised though. This is the same man who, earlier in the week, lost a fight with a mason jar and ended up getting 5 stitches.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 12, 2013 05:03 AM (/PCJa)

47 My dad (we'll, the man that raised me) always used to tell me "Fair is a little circus that comes to town once a year. The sooner you learn that, the better off you'll be." That, and "I'll kick your ass up between your shoulder blades" pretty much prepared me for life. "Want in one hand & shit in the other & see which fills up the quickest". IOW, you want something, work for it.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2013 05:04 AM (FNtJ6)

48 " Mary Katharine Ham had a baby girl, named (ofcourse) Georgia. " I would've named her Smithfield. Just because.

Posted by: shredded chi at August 12, 2013 05:04 AM (O66FG)

49

Mary Katharine Ham had a baby girl, named (ofcourse) Georgia.

 

Why not "Virginia?"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 12, 2013 05:05 AM (zF6Iw)

50 I'm not sure why I'm surprised though. This is the same man who, earlier in the week, lost a fight with a mason jar and ended up getting 5 stitches. heh

Posted by: EC at August 12, 2013 05:05 AM (GQ8sn)

51 WWII enlistee ending up as a sergeant, my dad's favorite expression was "That's not worth sour owl shit."

He said it so much that my sister once drew a cartoon of the famous Sour Owl.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 12, 2013 05:05 AM (GoIUi)

52 Why not "Virginia?" Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 12, 2013 09:05 AM (zF6Iw) MKH is from Athens, Georgia and went to UGA.

Posted by: EC at August 12, 2013 05:06 AM (GQ8sn)

53 So if MKH brings her daughter to the Doctor for the sniffles, does she leave with a cured Georgia Ham?

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 05:06 AM (ZshNr)

54 Mary Katharine Ham had a baby girl, named (ofcourse) Georgia. At least she didn't name her Sugar.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2013 05:06 AM (FNtJ6)

55

I would've named her Smithfield. Just because.

 

Honey Baked. Or Hormel.

 

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 12, 2013 05:06 AM (0HooB)

56 So if MKH brings her daughter to the Doctor for the sniffles, does she leave with a cured Georgia Ham? LOL, someone should tweet that to her.

Posted by: EC at August 12, 2013 05:07 AM (GQ8sn)

57 "Want in one hand & shit in the other & see which fills up the quickest" One of my mother's favorites.

Posted by: blaster at August 12, 2013 05:08 AM (W6bkf)

58

The difference isn't money. It isn't race. It's a mindset that says, "They owe me."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 12, 2013 08:51 AM (/PCJa)

 

Thomas Sowell writes about this in "Intellectuals and Race".  The jobless rate, illegitimacy rate and illiteracy rates are the same in the UK as the US.  It is culture.  Nobody has ever seen anyone get up, clean up and go to work.  Yet they are overwhelmingly white.  It's not racism, it's culture. 

Posted by: Mr. Dave at August 12, 2013 05:08 AM (hKs1B)

59

This is the same man who, earlier in the week, lost a fight with a mason jar and ended up getting 5 stitches.

 

Hey, let's be careful, now.  Those Mason jars run the world, you know. 

 

Them and the Jooooooos.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 12, 2013 05:09 AM (zF6Iw)

60 MKH is from Athens, Georgia and went to UGA.

 

Posted by: EC at August 12, 2013 09:06 AM (GQ8sn)

 

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Poor kid's middle name is probably "Ugga".

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 12, 2013 05:09 AM (CJjw5)

61 #42  I consider the non-wearing of stockings to be symptomatic of the decline of western civilization.

And I suppose that is because I am an old lady.  I amright there with the Queen,  who REQUIRES stockings worn for events at Buckingham Palace.  I notice that the Duchess of Cambridge wears them as well,  as do all of the royals.

It is a look which was started by Vogue and promoted by Michelle Obama.  And that is enough to tell me that it is bad.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 12, 2013 05:09 AM (GoIUi)

62 Posted by: EC at August 12, 2013 09:05 AM (GQ8sn) Oh, there are tons of stories, dating from when he was as young as about 10- most of them gut-bustingly funny. Apparently, he once got himself stuck inside a pontoon (as in: for a pontoon boat) for most of an afternoon. There was a hole in the pontoon, and he wanted to fix it, but he wanted the weld beads on the *inside* (so it wouldn't look ugly). So he gets his patching equipment, and wiggles in (they're not that big to begin with), and patches the hole. However... he had done this when no one was home. And he got stuck. He remained stuck until his son got home- whereupon he started shouting for help. Such help was delayed for several minutes while my B-i-L literally had to sit down because he was laughing so hard.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 12, 2013 05:10 AM (/PCJa)

63 Feel free to tweet it. My Twitter account is dormant and I don't have time to get back into it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 05:10 AM (ZshNr)

64 "Want in one hand & shit in the other & see which fills up the quickest" Oh yeah. That was another one we heard a couple times a day. EoJ at 41 might have just won the internet.

Posted by: shredded chi at August 12, 2013 05:10 AM (O66FG)

65 The jobless rate, illegitimacy rate and illiteracy rates are the same in the UK as the US. It is culture. Nobody has ever seen anyone get up, clean up and go to work. Yet they are overwhelmingly white. It's not racism, it's culture.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at August 12, 2013 09:08 AM (hKs1B)

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As my old man used to say, "The government taught them not to work".

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 12, 2013 05:10 AM (D5iHx)

66 What fresh DOOM! is this? 'Tis Monty, who is like unto the Monday as is the, um, uh, something. Or something. SNAFU. Posted by: BackwardsBoy _________ ¡Elephantly articalated!

Posted by: mindful webworker, unready for the day at August 12, 2013 05:10 AM (ztCj0)

67 Morning all. Peoria was nice. The CO of the Navy NOSC was a dick

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 12, 2013 05:12 AM (9Xc5j)

68 We have an intern from ITT working part-time for us, nice kid, smart, works hard when he's in the shop. But he can't get to work on time to save his own life. We're talking like 75-80% late. The only reason we keep him around is because ITT pays his wages, and we've told him this. If we were paying him, he'd have been gone the first week.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 12, 2013 05:12 AM (MBqvE)

69 I have a co-worker who apparently steals from food donation boxes at Walmart.  He's poor, you see, so it's not really theft, or something.

He also told us his great strategy for avoiding hospital bills:  Show up at the ER, claim you don't have ID, then give them a fake name and address. 

The rot in this country runs deep.

Posted by: Secundus at August 12, 2013 05:12 AM (SM196)

70 #42...Hose..see Princess Kate...she's brought hose back to England. It may be a generational thing, but, even average legs look great in hose. If you have great legs and wear hose, then you look stunning. AMHIK.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 12, 2013 05:13 AM (GS1WZ)

71 [jingle]  Nothing beats a great pair of L'Eggs!

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 12, 2013 05:15 AM (BAS5M)

72 Posted by: Secundus at August 12, 2013 09:12 AM (SM196) What's so depressing about that is that he has absolutely no shame about it. There's no way anyone with a normal shame response admits to doing those things. He's become so indifferent to the costs the rest of us have to bear on his behalf that it doesn't even embarrass him to admit that he's a thief and con-man.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 12, 2013 05:15 AM (/PCJa)

73 I can't read through all the spin I see in every story on the matter, but apparently mandatory-minimum drug sentences are no longer being enforced.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 05:17 AM (ZshNr)

74

He also told us his great strategy for avoiding hospital bills: Show up at the ER, claim you don't have ID, then give them a fake name and address.

The rot in this country runs deep.

 

I can't even work up the energy to condemn him.  Frankly, if I didn't have the faint traces of morality I do have, I'd do the same thing.  In today's America, honesty, probity, solvency and playing by the rules is a chump's game.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 12, 2013 05:17 AM (zF6Iw)

75

Gee whiz,  do I have to read Krugman's  inane crap again?  I've forgotten more about free market economics  than he'll ever know.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 12, 2013 05:18 AM (0HooB)

76 But he can't get to work on time to save his own life. We're talking like 75-80% late. I hate lateness. I hate it when I'm late. I hate it when people I'm expecting are late. I hate it when I know my wife is going to get somewhere late. I hate it when my doctor sees me late. I hate it when the repair man shows up late. Being late says more clearly than almost anything else that you're a selfish jerk who doesn't think of anyone else, and wouldn't care if you did.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 12, 2013 05:18 AM (/PCJa)

77
Christie, Booker share donors from Wall Street to Silicon Valley

Five dozen wealthy donors from Wall Street to Silicon Valley have placed their bets on both of New Jersey’s big political stars — Republican Gov. Chris Christie and Democratic Newark Mayor Cory Booker.

In all, 59 people in four states have given to both candidates this year, The Star-Ledger review found. From that donor base, Booker has received $300,550 and Christie has drawn $212,000.

"We are proud of the broad, bipartisan support weÂ’re receiving in this campaign, both from donors across the nation who believe in the governorÂ’s strong leadership and record of bipartisan accomplishments and from voters across the political and demographic spectrum," said Christie campaign spokesman Kevin Roberts.

NJ.com: http://tinyurl.com/lk2l9xv




I'll say it again in the land of the free
use your freedom of choice
freedom of choice

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 12, 2013 05:18 AM (kdS6q)

78 Apparently, he once got himself stuck inside a pontoon (as in: for a pontoon boat) for most of an afternoon. Good lord, how did this man ever remain alive for more than a year? And I mean that in the nicest possible way. He must have an angel looking out for him.

Posted by: EC at August 12, 2013 05:18 AM (GQ8sn)

79

"*shrug* I'd rather be judged by my work than superficial shit like the crease of my pants (that's turned out so well for us, hasn't it?), but I think we've established I'm a failure at life."

 

This attitude will get you uptwinkles at an Occupy Wall Street meeting, but conservative women have great gams.

 

Now, go shave those legs.

Posted by: jwest at August 12, 2013 05:18 AM (u2a4R)

80 #42...Hose..see Princess Kate...she's brought hose back to England. It may be a generational thing, but, even average legs look great in hose. If you have great legs and wear hose, then you look stunning. AMHIK. I like women who wear the hose with a little bit of shininess in them. Makes their legs look fantastic.

Posted by: EC at August 12, 2013 05:19 AM (GQ8sn)

81 Good lord, how did this man ever remain alive for more than a year? And I mean that in the nicest possible way. He must have an angel looking out for him. We really don't know. You know in Home Improvement when Tim would go into the ER, and they'd have a coffee mug with his name? Yeah... my F-i-L had that arrangement in real life for a while. He's an awesome guy, though. All kinds of fun- much of it of the "hold my beer and watch this" variety.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 12, 2013 05:20 AM (/PCJa)

82 Can't remember the name of the ship, but it was a biggie, that lost a man during construction, only to find his skeleton decades later, having welded/riveted himself inside a portion of the hull.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 05:20 AM (ZshNr)

83 What's so depressing about that is that he has absolutely no shame about it. There's no way anyone with a normal shame response admits to doing those things. And if he isn't stealing his and Secundus' employer blind, I'll eat my hat.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 12, 2013 05:20 AM (MBqvE)

84 I've seen SSDI abuse first hand. My oldest was born weighing 2lbs 4oz, and thus automatically qualified for SSI and SSI medicaid. Leaving aside the adverse incentives against making more money that SSI caused us (after a certain amount of time benefits, including medical care, become tied to income. If you make too much, you lose coverage and my son was on very, very expensive shots that our private insurance didn't cover) I was always completely shocked at the, er, quality of people who frequented the SS office. You'd think that it would be a cross section of the population. After all, everyone needs a SS card, and anyone could become disabled. As it turns out, not so much. Not so much. It was more like Wal Mart at 2 am. Anyway, it became moot because regardless of my son's extremely low birth weight, 7 weeks in the NICU, 4 surgeries, daily shots, and multiple diagnosed delays, he was dismissed from the program at 5. I'm sure we could have fought it, but we felt dirty enough already. I'm sure Laquesha the depressed needed those benefits far more,,and no, I don't denounce myself.

Posted by: Lauren at August 12, 2013 05:20 AM (ELdpj)

85

"We are proud of the broad, bipartisan support weÂ’re receiving in this campaign, both from donors across the nation who believe in the governorÂ’s strong leadership and record of bipartisan accomplishments and from voters across the political and demographic spectrum," said Christie campaign spokesman Kevin Roberts.

 

To paraphrase the quote attributed to Hermann Goering, every time I hear the word "bipartisan," I reach for my gun.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 12, 2013 05:20 AM (zF6Iw)

86 Can't remember the name of the ship, but it was a biggie, that lost a man during construction, only to find his skeleton decades later, having welded/riveted himself inside a portion of the hull.

 

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 09:20 AM (ZshNr)

 

The Great Eastern.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 12, 2013 05:22 AM (zF6Iw)

87 My grandson has inherited my horror of being late,  for which I am glad.

When I was in the 6th grade,  my school took a field trip to Chicago by airplane from Indianapolis.  The was a Big Deal,  as most kids had never been on an airplane.

Just prior to this trip, there was a terrible airline crash in Tell City,  Indiana,  in which an Electra jet just came apart and everyone was reduced to bits and pieces scattered over acres of cornfields.

My mother was spooked and offered me $100 (in 1960 dollars!) not to take the trip.  Of course,  being young and not seeing the financial benefit,  I said no. 

The day of the trip my mother,  probably for psychological reasons,  overslept.  We had to race to the airport while I dressed in the car (including putting on STOCKINGS-ha)  I had to run to the plane which they were holding for me! I was totally embarrassed.

To this day I am famous for getting everywhere on time,  if not a few minutes early.


Posted by: Miss Marple at August 12, 2013 05:23 AM (GoIUi)

88 " The rot in this country runs deep." And it comes from places you would least expect. FIL is ret'd Navy. He's a quite healthy 50 yr old. I've only been around about 3 years, but have never seen him work a day in his life. Every few months, he takes a night class at the local CC. Just the other day I heard him complaining to the kids (6 and 10, btw) why he couldn't afford to take them to the movies - "last year I made $144k, this year I'm struggling on $50k." How the Fuck do you make $140k without working? Unemployment, that's how. Wife works, too. A nice gov't job pulling in high 5 figured, but they have about 1%equity in a home she's had for 30 years. The entitlement mentality is not just ingrained in the younger generation or minorities.

Posted by: shredded chi at August 12, 2013 05:24 AM (O66FG)

89 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 12, 2013 09:15 AM (/PCJa)


Yep.  He also lived ran an under the table business for several years in Puerto Rico (no racial comment-- he's a white guy from New York) that he financed by selling his food stamps.  A real class act.

In happier news, the IRS has noticed that he's waaaaaaay behind on the whole 'taxes' thing, so hopefully he'll get the full monty from Uncle Sam.

Regarding young people (and how did I end up on this end of the conversation?  I'm 32, for Christ's sake.  Off my lawn!)  The thing I've noticed, above all, is they seem to have trouble taking things seriously enough, until something goes horribly wrong-- although that might just be youthful hubris.  If I could watch video of myself twelve years ago I might see the same behavior.

Posted by: Secundus at August 12, 2013 05:24 AM (SM196)

90 The Army cured me of lateness. I'm always early.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 05:25 AM (ZshNr)

91 I can't even work up the energy to condemn him. Frankly, if I didn't have the faint traces of morality I do have, I'd do the same thing. In today's America, honesty, probity, solvency and playing by the rules is a chump's game. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 12, 2013 09:17 AM (zF6Iw) Yeah, I know the feeling. My wife and I are going through green card hell at the moment (I start my MBA in two weeks, and the bureaucracy is SLOW for the green cards ex-China). If we had lied along the way, we could have saved ourselves a lot of hassle and saved probably $25k (no kidding). The only people that win are those that take advantage of the system and hop over the border or claim asylum, while honest taxpayers like me get screwed.

Posted by: In Exile at August 12, 2013 05:25 AM (AwxCS)

92 I've seen SSDI abuse first hand. My oldest was born weighing 2lbs 4oz, and thus automatically qualified for SSI and SSI medicaid. Hmmm. My twins were preemies, one even smaller than that, and honestly, no one ever mentioned nor did we ever dream that that entitled us to government benefits.

Posted by: zsasz at August 12, 2013 05:25 AM (MMC8r)

93

 So, paying taxes is no longer patriotic.

 

 Good!

 

 Someone finally bought a vowel.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at August 12, 2013 05:26 AM (klGLB)

94

But I can boil the list down to only three basic items: 1. Be on time; 2. Hustle; 3. Listen more and talk less.

 

As I said, four basic items.

 

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition or an accurate count.

 

(Seriously, just having fun with this, Monty.  It IS Monday, after all.)

Posted by: Cardinal Ximénez at August 12, 2013 05:27 AM (o44nj)

95 So far my Yearly vacations has consisted of 9 days at FT Drum, 13 Days at Parris Island, 6 days in Portsmouth Naval Hospital, and 3 days in Peoria IL. Hey obama hows that for a vacation?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 12, 2013 05:27 AM (9Xc5j)

96

and how did I end up on this end of the conversation? I'm 32, for Christ's sake. Off my lawn!

 

32?  You get off my lawn, you whippersnapper!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 12, 2013 05:28 AM (zF6Iw)

97 " no one ever mentioned nor did we ever dream that that entitled us to government benefits. " Seriously? The hospital I delivered at had a NICU social worker who approached us the day he was born. I had no clue about the program either, but birth weight under a certain threshold is an automatic qualification.

Posted by: Lauren at August 12, 2013 05:28 AM (ELdpj)

98 Why so much Navy stuff this year? Or is it like that every year?

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 05:29 AM (ZshNr)

99

So far my Yearly vacations has consisted of 9 days at FT Drum, 13 Days at Parris Island, 6 days in Portsmouth Naval Hospital, and 3 days in Peoria IL. Hey obama hows that for a vacation?

 

**sniff**

 

You'd think you'd be thanking Me!

Posted by: Barky O'Dogmuncher at August 12, 2013 05:30 AM (zF6Iw)

100
California lawmakers, back from their summer break and starting their final month in session, have a lengthy to-do list

Some 1,100 bills — about 275 a week, or 55 a day — require action before the Legislature adjourns Sept. 13.

Senate could approve legislation, already passed in the Assembly, to make more undocumented immigrants eligible for California drivers' licenses and limit the ability of local law enforcement agencies to hold immigrants who have no papers for deportation unless they are charged with serious crimes.

Lawmakers also are expected to decide whether to outlaw the sale, purchase and manufacture of semiautomatic rifles that accommodate detachable magazines that hold multiple bullets — one of a raft of gun bills filed after last year's massacre at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn.

And they will consider a bid to increase California's minimum wage by $1.25 an hour, to $9.25, over three years.

"This is the last four weeks of session," Senate leader Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento) said. "Some would say it's a time of peril, and I would say it's a time of great opportunity."

LATimes: http://tinyurl.com/mb344yr




pLz hELp uS....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 12, 2013 05:31 AM (kdS6q)

101 Why so much Navy stuff this year? Or is it like that every year? Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 09:29 AM (ZshNr) Well I do enjoy doing it. I volunteer. I'm good at it. Most people are just marking time to 20 years or have their heads up their ass. I'm asked. Stuff like that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 12, 2013 05:31 AM (9Xc5j)

102 That's good.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 12, 2013 05:34 AM (ZshNr)

103

I've seen SSDI abuse first hand. My oldest was born weighing 2lbs 4oz, and thus automatically qualified for SSI and SSI medicaid.

 

Posted by: Lauren at August 12, 2013 09:20 AM (ELdpj)

 

Supplemental Security Income abuse to be exact, used and abused by those who never worked and can't/don't want to. Social Security Disability Insurance, used and abused by those who once worked but "can't"/don't want to anymore, is an entirely separate program that will go belly-up by mid-2016 as it becomes the first of three welfare programs partially financed by "trust funds" to burn through said "trust fund".

Posted by: steveegg at August 12, 2013 05:34 AM (o44nj)

104 pLz hELp uS....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 12, 2013 09:31 AM (kdS6q)


I wonder if we could build a fence on the border.  Not the one with Mexico, the one with Cali.

Posted by: Secundus at August 12, 2013 05:35 AM (SM196)

105

>>>He also told us his great strategy for avoiding hospital bills: Show up at the ER, claim you don't have ID, then give them a fake name and address.

 

I see that all the time. Being in Disease Control, that means I sometimes can't find 'em [say 1 out of 10 times] which, needless to say, can have devastating effects on a community should the disease in question be nasty.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at August 12, 2013 05:36 AM (3ZtZW)

106 We need to start a rumor in the California state government that all the other states in the Union are infected with a horrible virus that leads to oil drilling, lack of social justice, and low minimum wages.  Anyone who leaves the state carries the virus back and risks infecting other Californians.

They'd have that state sealed up tighter than North Korea inside a year...

Posted by: Secundus at August 12, 2013 05:38 AM (SM196)

107 Fox has been hitting this pretty good lately.  Last night they had a program on food stamp abuse  and Huckabee had on Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs who said the exact same thing Monty posted about being on time, dress properly and hustle.  

Posted by: polynikes at August 12, 2013 05:42 AM (m2CN7)

108 Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs

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Mike Rowe is awesome. I've been a fan for years. He was on Adam Carolla's show a while back, and it was great. Two peas in a pod(cast).


Posted by: Monty at August 12, 2013 06:05 AM (G8OwX)

109 Yes there are innocents in this story.

The kids who can't vote yet -- and who haven't even been born yet -- who are being saddled with horrendous debt.

Posted by: Heh at August 12, 2013 06:06 AM (DzvS7)

110 Here's the YouTube link to the Carolla/Rowe thing.
http://tinyurl.com/kyxh28o

Posted by: Monty at August 12, 2013 06:07 AM (G8OwX)

111

Agree 100% on your additional advice for 20-year-olds.  I have one of those (well, he will be 20 in a month.)  He asked us if he could stay in his college town (Nashville) for the summer and rent a house with his bandmates.  We said yes, if he could find a job that would pay all his expenses.  Turns out Nashville is an expensive rental market, thanks to all the rich college kids at Vandy and elsewhere.  He managed to find an old house for rent in a working-class neighborhood pretty far from campus for $900 a month, split 3 ways.  It is not modern, but it has plenty of space.  He got a job at a Panera, where they are pretty strict about time clocking and appearance.  But he is punctual and personable and has gotten increased hours since he started, and is paying his way.  (Also gets free bread and cookies at the end of the day since he volunteered to do the closing shift.)  His roommates both got jobs doing valet parking.  They have found furniture and a washer and dryer for free or at yard sales and thrift stores.  We got him an old car that a friend gave us, but he is paying for the insurance and maintenance.  He has a lot to learn about running a house, cooking and cleaning, and paying bills, but we figured these will be valuable life lessons for him, and it's better to learn them over the summer than trying to do it during the school year. 

Posted by: rockmom at August 12, 2013 06:12 AM (NYnoe)

112 "If you just arrive on time, dressed in the proper clothes for the job, and be ready to work, you'd be amazed at how far you'll go."

That's not true, at least during the time the baby boomers were flooding the labor market. You had to know someone, you had to blow someone, you had to join the union, you had to be a college grad with a 4 year head start on the baby boomers or you were just cannon fodder for the labor pool. Just being smart and hard working wasn't enough.Same is true today, only today you have to be the 'right' demographic; female, gay, non-white.

Posted by: Old Joe at August 12, 2013 06:17 AM (DhrjM)

113 'Just showing up is half the battle. If you just arrive on time, dressed in the proper clothes for the job, and be ready to work, you'd be amazed at how far you'll go.'

This. So much of this.

When I was a yoot in College and wanted a Summer job my dad told me:
"Get a hardhat & boots, show up ready to work at any job on time.  Ask politely for work, if told 'no' go back tomorrow early and try again."

He (having been job manager for construction) said there's always someone on the job who he'd have replaced inside of a week with someone who consistently showed up on time ready to work.

Posted by: gekkobear at August 12, 2013 06:43 AM (X0NX1)

114 Jeez, strong opinions about hose here. Personally, I hate hose on women. I don't like it when my wife wears them, ruins her great legs.

Posted by: KG at August 12, 2013 06:49 AM (p7BzH)

115 That's not true, at least during the time the baby boomers were flooding the labor market. You had to know someone, you had to blow someone, you had to join the union, you had to be a college grad with a 4 year head start on the baby boomers or you were just cannon fodder for the labor pool. Just being smart and hard working wasn't enough.Same is true today, only today you have to be the 'right' demographic; female, gay, non-white. Posted by: Old Joe at August 12, 2013 10:17 AM (DhrjM) Old Joe with old excuses.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 12, 2013 06:52 AM (XIxXP)

116 Jeez, strong opinions about hose here. Personally, I hate hose on women. I don't like it when my wife wears them, ruins her great legs. Posted by: KG at August 12, 2013 10:49 AM (p7BzH) I like them when they are thigh hi and clipped with garters. Yummy.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 12, 2013 06:52 AM (XIxXP)

117

There was some good stuff in that "20-year-olds" article (my favorite being, as I like to put it, "it's later than you think"), but also a major recycling of you might call the "management religion", which mostly serves to reinforce the narcissistic control-freak impulses of the managers themselves.

 

 

I've know plenty of people who were really good at getting in to warm their chair at the appointed nanosecond, sit in their kennel for the required duration, and go home at the buzzer. Most of them were useless.  They were employees in good standing, but they understood almost nothing about the product they were working on, were poorly educated no-talents, and would sit helpless if the least little thing went wrong. They would show no initiative whatsoever.

 

 

Worse, they would go in and "fix" things, which would make the system ever more complicated and unusable.

 

 

There was a guy who literally made a career out of "building the code".  A really nice guy, but if the he had any talent and initiative AT ALL, he would have automated that task with code of his own within the first six months of doing it. But he was the kind of guy who would sit and wait to be told before doing such a thing, and might well screw it up if he tried.

 

 

"Talent is overrated" is especially precious. This is the mark of a pathetic manager who doesn't like having a worker who is better at something than he is. In other words, of an insecure ass.  Imagine how well an NFL team would do it the coach wouldn't recruit somebody who could throw a ball better than he could.  It's that ridiculous. Untalented people can be given all the time in the world, and can still never accomplish what the talented can.

 

 

Overall, the author shows absolutely no interest in an employee actually being productive, and probably has no way to measure whether they actually are or not. Except for whether they're warming they're chair in the appointed hours, so he can stop by and have them jump and click their heels at his presence.

 

 

This is why huge bureaucracies have to get insane nonsense legislated - to keep small, efficient, business from eating their big, fat lunches.

 

Posted by: Optimizer at August 12, 2013 07:14 AM (Mxt9o)

118 Maybe, but maybe not. Taxpayers can still vote with their feet---  For Now, Bitches

Posted by: Obama's New Urban Initiatives at August 12, 2013 07:23 AM (CMlD4)

119 He has a lot to learn about running a house, cooking and cleaning, cockoach squishing and paying bills, but we figured these will be valuable life lessons for him, and it's better to learn them over the summer than trying to do it during the school year.

Posted by: Obama's New Urban Initiatives at August 12, 2013 07:25 AM (CMlD4)

120 Optimizer, #117: "'Talent is overrated' is especially precious. This is the mark of a pathetic manager who doesn't like having a worker who is better at something than he is. In other words, of an insecure ass." I disagree. I work in a field of research where you have to have talent to succeed, otherwise you'll be cranking out results indistinguishable from lots and lots of others', and no one who matters will care. The thing is, there's a certain (high) threshold of talent required - and once you are above that, there's a poor correlation between "excess" talent and success. I was identified early on as "talented", with great potential, and all that. And I floundered badly until I got my act together. I see it all the time. For each kid I've seen with rock-star-level talent who actually becomes a rock star, I see five others, equally talented, who don't understand that without discipline and fanatical determination, their less talented, harder-working competitors will eat their lunch. That's just my perspective, and I'm pretty secure these days. I'm delighted to find and take on students who have more talent than I do, and I cheerfully admit they do when I write their recommendation letters.

Posted by: JPS at August 12, 2013 07:40 AM (g11mv)

121 Monty, thanks for the Carolla link, listening to it now... and the DOOM post of course.   Always appreciate the effort!   Welcome back AllenG.

Posted by: Yip at August 12, 2013 07:51 AM (/jHWN)

122 1 "1. Be on time; 2. Hustle; 3. Listen more and talk less. Just showing up is half the battle. If you just arrive on time, dressed in the proper clothes for the job, and be ready to work, you'd be amazed at how far you'll go." Too many black yutes think that that is racist. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 12, 2013 08:18 AM (+98Gb) Interesting thing: my five nephews and six male cousins who are in their late teens and early twenties all have jobs. I may write about this.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 12, 2013 08:42 AM (Tnlh/)

123

"120 Optimizer, #117:

...


I disagree. I work in a field of research where you have to have talent to succeed, otherwise you'll be cranking out results indistinguishable from lots and lots of others', and no one who matters will care. ..."

 

 

 

 

That didn't even make any sense. You say you need to have talent to stand out and succeed, but you're taking the side that "talent is overrated"? You're more of a case study for what I was saying, that an example to repute it.

 

 

An outfit that isn't challenging it's people enough for some sort of ability to matter, isn't competing, and will eventually have somebody come along and eat their lunch. The talented will either move on, or just not bother to apply themselves, and the org misses out.

 

 

I presume this crap occurs the most in defense, where there are only a few players who have the capacity to do the job, the customer is spending other people's money with no fear of ever going out of business, and they put inane busywork as a requirement into the contract because that's how they do things in the government.

 

 

Again, the author focuses on superficial things - like what you LOOK LIKE, for cryin' out loud, rather than any actual measure of your real value-added. Unless you're a broadcaster, actor, or sales rep that often doesn't matter. It calls to mind how it was always the guys with the pony tails who really knew what the hell they were doing, when it  came to anything having to do with running or programming computers. It makes me sad when they bow to the pressure of clowns like the author, and get them lopped off.

 

Posted by: Optimizer at August 12, 2013 11:03 AM (Mxt9o)

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