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April 15, 2013

DOOM: Unsafe At Any Speed
— Monty

UPDATE: (via Instapundit) The terrifying reality of long-term unemployment. It won't be long before chronic joblessness is classified as a disability; then going on SSDI will be nothing more than a legal formality instead of fraud. I do disagree with this, however:

It's time for the government to start hiring the long-term unemployed. Or, at the least, start giving employers tax incentives to hire the long-term unemployed. The worst possible outcome for all of us is if the long-term unemployed become unemployable. That would permanently reduce our productive capacity.

The last thing we need is another harebrained government employment program...which we don't have the money for anyhow.

The one number you need to know in Obama's budget.

Under ObamaÂ’s budget, in 2020 interest payments alone would amount to more than national-defense spending in that year. By 2023, interest payments alone would amount to more than all nondefense discretionary spending in that year.

Retirement? Don't count on it. I don't -- I've known since my teen years that Social Security was a lie, and that if I wanted to retire, I'd have to do so on my own savings. And since I don't know how long I'll live or what my expenses will be when I'm old, I'll simply work as long as I'm able to.

The problem with Barack Obama isn't that he's an economic illiterate -- he's hardly unique among lawmakers in that respect. The real problem is that he thinks he understands just fine. Barack Obama is a vain man, and nowhere is his vanity stronger than in his own intellect. He really thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.

Margaret Thatcher predicted the failure of the Euro twenty years ago. She was a woman of protean gifts, a formidable clearsightedness primary among them.

The financial networks have an attention span like a toddler on a sugar-high, and like most others in the media they spin madly to advance the liberal narrative on the economy. The recent upswing in equities has them in a tizzy, but the fact is that the stock market is illustrating stagnation, not recovery.

It's become apparent that many workers, having exhausted their unemployment benefits, are simply transitioning to SSDI. And once in that program, they are for all intents and purposes divorced from the work force permanently -- not many in SSDI ever re-enter the workforce. Fraud in the program is rampant, aided by compliant doctors and lax regulators.

Yes, Virginia, America still makes stuff. Quite a lot of stuff, as a matter of fact. It's just that we no longer need as many people to make all this stuff as we used to.

The blue-on-blue civil war that Walter Russell Mead has been predicting is underway. Public-sector pensioners are going to start consuming an ever-larger part of municipal and state funds, and there's no way local governments can raise taxes enough to cover the shortfall. So other things will have to give, and those things are likely to be programs that liberals like: the bookmobile, meals on wheels, stuff like that. Eventually they'll have to start cutting into muscle: public safety, roads, and other services. In other words, cities (like Stockton, CA) will fail at their basic job of providing protection and public services to their citizens...all so they can keep sending money to people who no longer work for them.

If you come out of school owing $100,000 in student debt, that's pretty much the equivalent of owing a mortgage on a house. Except that you don't have a house; you have four years of an education that may nor may not be worth the debt you took on to get it. Buying a house means borrowing another couple of hundred grand (or so)...and you may find that banks are unwilling to extend that kind of credit to a twentysomething with high debt and uncertain job prospects.

Dear France: HA HA HA HA! Hope you're enjoying that socialist paradise you voted for. It sounds like the Frenchies need to re-read Orwell's Animal Farm.

The Eurozone crisis is back? I've got news for you: the Eurozone crisis never went away.

China's economy continuing to slow. And given how unreliable the economic numbers out of China are, I bet the news is a lot worse than they're letting on.
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Posted by: Monty at 04:15 AM | Comments (164)
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1 Foist?

Posted by: Professor Unrat at April 15, 2013 04:17 AM (uLCJ+)

2 Second?

Posted by: Professor Unrat at April 15, 2013 04:18 AM (uLCJ+)

3 All this DOOM and no one else to appreciate it

Posted by: Professor Unrat at April 15, 2013 04:19 AM (uLCJ+)

4 Monday morning alone is enough doom all by itself.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 15, 2013 04:21 AM (4Mv1T)

5 Gun control legislation will kick-start the economy!

Posted by: Typical Low-Info Dem at April 15, 2013 04:21 AM (JQuNB)

6 Read the whole post and still #4. I must be a speed reader.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 15, 2013 04:22 AM (4Mv1T)

7 We're so screwed. Be like Rockhound in Armageddon and pick out a good seat early. Ride it, even.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 15, 2013 04:23 AM (BAS5M)

8 Sun rises in the east, DOOM befalls the world. Nice to know Mondays haven't changed.

Posted by: JDTAY at April 15, 2013 04:25 AM (a0nis)

9 Man, those kittehs look PISSED! Got catnip?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 15, 2013 04:25 AM (026j9)

10 remain calm! all is well! I was told there would be no posts to read.

Posted by: Kevin Bacon at April 15, 2013 04:25 AM (SSWdi)

11 No worries, folks, picked up a 100 trillion dollar bill from Zimbabwe at the gun show this weekend. Soon as I can figure out where to cash it in, drinks are on me.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at April 15, 2013 04:25 AM (6NIyO)

12 Doom Kittehs!

Posted by: CanaDave at April 15, 2013 04:25 AM (W006b)

13 Heh. Everyone must be doing their taxes.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 15, 2013 04:26 AM (026j9)

14 Doom beaver has bitten California.

Posted by: The Larch at April 15, 2013 04:27 AM (3K3Md)

15 doom doom doom...

Posted by: chemjeff at April 15, 2013 04:31 AM (BBWjt)

16 OT, but very good: Why the Gun is Civilization, by Marko Kloos. http://goo.gl/GKmYY

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at April 15, 2013 04:31 AM (JQuNB)

17 Margaret Thatcher predicted the failure of the Euro twenty year ago. All those scumbags crashing the funeral can say thanks for keeping the system they leech off of on the Pound.

Posted by: zsasz at April 15, 2013 04:32 AM (MMC8r)

18 The problem with Barack Obama isn't that he's an economic illiterate -- he's hardly unique among lawmakers in that respect. The real problem is that he thinks he understands just fine. Barack Obama is a vain man, and nowhere is his vanity stronger than in his own intellect. He really thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.

THAT is the problem. Really, the whole problem. I cannot understand why so few seem to grasp this fully. You cannot possibly work with someone who really thinks himself all but omniscient; he's the grown up, everyone else is at best, just a naughty, stupid child. He will never grasp what anyone else is trying to tell him as, from his point of view, there is no reason for him to do so. He already understands, about anything, far more than you can. He even understands what you believe better than you do yourself.

The King of Pointland is our ruler.

Posted by: George LeS at April 15, 2013 04:32 AM (C4s3i)

19 6 Read the whole post and still #4. I must be a speed reader.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 15, 2013 08:22 AM (4Mv1T)

Really not a lot to say about the decline - when all is said and done it's every one look to their own interests as best as they can. Me, I'm moving to the best area of the country as soon as possible. To delay the bad stuff coming for as long as possible.

Posted by: tubal at April 15, 2013 04:33 AM (BoE3Z)

20 Patriots Day in MA and ME today! I am in the South now, but I'll celebrate with a few brew skies anyway. This used to be the day we'd have a parade through the neighborhood, repair the winter damage at the Little League fields, then have a big cook-out at the church field. Nowadays I suppose they recite an Ode to Che.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 15, 2013 04:34 AM (ZshNr)

21 All this DOOM and no one else to appreciate it It's some first-rate doom.

Posted by: fluffy, doom aficionado at April 15, 2013 04:35 AM (z9HTb)

22 Must have needed to laugh because the Word Cloud for Ace's Thousand-Word Coffee Maker Review has me rolling on the floor.

Posted by: Winston at April 15, 2013 04:36 AM (FggW0)

"Under ObamaÂ’s budget, in 2020 interest payments alone would amount to more than national-defense spending in that year. By 2023, interest payments alone would amount to more than all nondefense discretionary spending in that year."

This will break us. Not in 2050 or 2075, but in the lifetime of most people now alive. It's coming like a hundred car freightrain with no brakes.

I say this all the time. Obama is an economic illiterate. I hope all the academics that regularly give him tongue baths will appreciate his goodness and intelligence when the economy goes "ooomph" and throws up all over them

Michael Beschloss, you lying bastard, I am looking at you.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense..... at April 15, 2013 04:36 AM (RFeQD)

24 Read the whole post and still #4. I must be a speed reader.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 15, 2013 08:22 AM (4Mv1T)

You'd have been #1 if you didn't have to mouth the big words.....

Posted by: MY Times style writer looking down on the South at April 15, 2013 04:36 AM (/WLC3)

Slight disagreement about the blue on blue civil war...

The first instinct of the blue sector is to raise taxes, I agree. But when it comes time to cut, their instinct is to cut the essential services first, so as to punish the unruly taxpayers for being unwilling to send more of their checks to the government.

So I disagree that the B on B civil war is underway, since there's still political mileage to be had for blaming conservatives for being unwilling to agree to tax hikes which, in their telling, consequently requires cuts to police and fire departments.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 15, 2013 04:37 AM (eytER)

26 8 Sun rises in the east, DOOM befalls the world. Nice to know Mondays haven't changed. Sun rises in east DOOM befalls us. Nice to know, Monday; still the same. Don't mention it. (really!)

Posted by: haikuizer at April 15, 2013 04:38 AM (SSWdi)

27 20 Patriots Day in MA and ME today! I am in the South now, but I'll celebrate with a few brew skies anyway. This used to be the day we'd have a parade through the neighborhood, repair the winter damage at the Little League fields, then have a big cook-out at the church field. Nowadays I suppose they recite an Ode to Che. The British army went to Concord in search of an arms cache. Today's residents would throw rose petals at them.

Posted by: fluffy at April 15, 2013 04:39 AM (z9HTb)

28 DOOM!!

How I've missed you.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 15, 2013 04:39 AM (fwARV)

Posted by: somejoe at April 15, 2013 04:39 AM (SSWdi)

But other than his vanity, his golf swing, his pitching arm, his jump shot, his layup, his head-swiveling teleprompter speech delivery, his silibant sssss, his socialism, his birth certificate, his bike riding, his umbrella wielding, his expressive wrist flapping coming down AF1's stairs, . . .

he's a swell fellow.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 15, 2013 04:40 AM (BAS5M)

31 DOOM is my mistress. I have worked too hard at her conquest to allow anyone to take her away from me.

Posted by: Fritz at April 15, 2013 04:40 AM (UzPAd)

Off, damned sock

And who gets the barrel shift now?

Posted by: @JohnTant at April 15, 2013 04:40 AM (eytER)

33 ?

Posted by: somejoe at April 15, 2013 04:40 AM (SSWdi)

34 Oh Monty Ogabenomics means he nukes the value of our savings through currency games...

there is NO RoR on our voluntarily surrendered/deferred purchasing power bud....

er uh "apple slices!" you'll get less than 2% RoR and like it!

//Emperor Giggles MomJeans noMoney II

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 15, 2013 04:40 AM (LRFds)

35 Thatcher and Reagan managed to uplift the entire world only to be vilified for it. Makes you wonder why anyone would try to help the dregs that only hate those that don't completely agree with them.

Posted by: Flyguy at April 15, 2013 04:40 AM (35x9C)

36 I ran out of memory. My formatting got suspended. I didn't have enough money for an OS upgrade. My hard drive was dirty. I got an instant message. Someone stole my ampersands. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts! IT WASN'T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD! NOT THE BARREL!!!

Posted by: somejoe at April 15, 2013 04:40 AM (SSWdi)

37 doom!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 15, 2013 04:42 AM (GVxQo)

"He really thinks he's the smartest guy in the room."

Just the room? I suspect Barry considers his superiority to extend somewhat farther.

Posted by: otho at April 15, 2013 04:42 AM (9gNQd)

39 In a country where it is legal to pull a baby halfway out of the womb so a pair of scissors can be used to cut its spinal chord anything is possible. Is it really that surprising that the same country would vote to kill its future generations with debt, if they would legalize a medical "procedure" to do it literally? OT a little but has anyone else tried to stop caring about politics? It is like watching a slow motion trainwreck anymore.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at April 15, 2013 04:42 AM (++kZl)

40 Morning all. I got nothing

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 15, 2013 04:42 AM (9Bj8R)

41 Â“I think I could probably do every job on the campaign better than the people IÂ’ll hire to do it,Â” he said. Â“ItÂ’s hard to give up control when thatÂ’s all IÂ’ve known.Â” Obama said nearly the same thing to Patrick Gaspard, whom he hired to be the campaignÂ’s political director. Â“I think IÂ’m a better speechwriter than my speechwriters,Â” Obama told him. Â“I know more about policies on any particular issue than my policy directors. And IÂ’ll tell you right now that IÂ’m gonna think IÂ’m a better political director than my political director.Â”

-- Barack Obama

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 15, 2013 04:42 AM (fwARV)

OT but funny:

I helped a friend install an adjustable-height basketball hoop over the weekend. It has a crank thingy that raises and lowers the hoop and backboard.

There are now three marked heights on the crank:

-Competition height (highest setting)

-Children's height (Mid range)

-Obamaball (lowest)

Posted by: @JohnTant at April 15, 2013 04:43 AM (eytER)

43 What a mess. How are we gonna fix it?

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 15, 2013 04:45 AM (bb5+k)

44 43 Diogenes Lamp,

We sent Lez Warren to the Hill to fix it...

the Sven J Olafson weather forecast involves fire and brimstone and pain....

"Burn"

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 15, 2013 04:46 AM (LRFds)

45 36 somejoe Golf clap. Bravo!

Posted by: fluffy at April 15, 2013 04:47 AM (z9HTb)

46 39OT a little but has anyone else tried to stop caring about politics? It is like watching a slow motion trainwreck anymore.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at April 15, 2013 08:42 AM (++kZl)

I have. What I think doesn't matter - I have friends who are pissed off 24/7 about the state of the state - bitch and complain constantly. Means shit around here. Why raise your blood pressure for nothing? It's like the piss-boy seething against Louis Quatorze. Better to move the bucket once in a while, and let His Majesty piss on his own foot.

Posted by: tubal at April 15, 2013 04:47 AM (BoE3Z)

47 What a mess. How are we gonna fix it? This is a good question. Problem is, I don't think there is an answer. We need a better political class. That is not in the offing. We may get some stars here and there, or maybe reverse a little bit of the stream for a little while. Look at Margaret Thatcher. She brought England back, if only for a bit, and they hate her for it. The better question is what to do to survive it.

Posted by: blaster at April 15, 2013 04:48 AM (GBWoT)

48 Oh Monty Ogabenomics means he nukes the value of our savings through currency games... Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 15, 2013 08:40 AM (LRFds) It's funny. When I scan through the comments and come across something I regard as exactly right, I look down and see the name sven10077 under it. This happens quite a lot for some reason.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 15, 2013 04:49 AM (bb5+k)

49 We need a better political class.

And a better electorate.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, very old maid at April 15, 2013 04:50 AM (/kI1Q)

50 Eye-talians banned? I just don't know what to do. Vote in every election, support half-sane politicians. We end up with 2-term Zer0. All I can do is look out for myself & the Cute Cat Lady.

Posted by: backhoe at April 15, 2013 04:50 AM (ULH4o)

51 The better question is what to do to survive it.

Posted by: blaster at April 15, 2013 08:48 AM (GBWoT)

Stock up on the things that matter. Love, family, ammo, food.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 15, 2013 04:51 AM (fwARV)

52 He already understands, about anything, far more than you can. He even understands what you believe better than you do yourself. Posted by: George LeS at April 15, 2013 08:32 AM (C4s3i) I'm finding this a quite common problem, especially among liberals. You can't tell them anything because they think they already understand everything.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 15, 2013 04:51 AM (bb5+k)

53 Ah the smell of angst for the cheese eating surrender monkeys. You know they suck when you can honestly say "at least we aren't as bad as those idiots, yet."

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at April 15, 2013 04:51 AM (X+nFp)

Now I know why it was called Beethoven's Fifth. He was drinking as he wrote the lyrics:

duh duh duh DOOM.

duh duh duh DOOM

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon is a solid man (link in nick) at April 15, 2013 04:51 AM (pxDth)

55 We tend to focus our attention on the political end of the DOOM effect.
And I am sure that most of us prior military already read commander salamander on a regular basis.

But, I offer a link from the Front Porch that gives some insight into the direction we are going with our senior leaders.

Enjoy, or not

http://tinyurl.com/d7aozqd

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 15, 2013 04:51 AM (Hdt3V)

56 49We need a better political class.

And a better electorate.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™, very old maid

Meh, to late for that...look what they just did.

Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at April 15, 2013 04:52 AM (IanLz)

57 And a better electorate.

--

And a better media.
And a better public education system.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 15, 2013 04:52 AM (3V9LU)

58 OT a little but has anyone else tried to stop caring about politics? It is like watching a slow motion trainwreck anymore. Posted by: Mr. Pink at April 15, 2013 08:42 AM (++kZl) Yep. Started with avoiding hearing Obama's voice at all costs. That helped a lot.

Posted by: Mainah at April 15, 2013 04:53 AM (659DL)

59 The better question is what to do to survive it. Posted by: blaster at April 15, 2013 08:48 AM (GBWoT) I take the "burn" as a given. I'm just wondering what we are going to do to get through the burn and start rebuilding. Tribulation is a pretty good choice of word to describe what I think is coming.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 15, 2013 04:53 AM (bb5+k)

60 First thing this morning, had to check the ONT, 'cause I peeked in late & briefly, and thought I saw the return of Stuck on Stupid. I was reading up on Wolverine cheating on his gf and SoS livin wif 2 wimmins when I ran across a startling bit of blasphemy: "...sleep is good! sleep is better than ONT." -elizabethe at April 14, 2013 11:41 PM Deeply disturbing. Someone needs to straighten Liz out!

Good Morning

Posted by: mindful webworker, off-topic in under-100 at April 15, 2013 04:54 AM (ktPHV)

61 And a better electorate. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™, very old maid at April 15, 2013 08:50 AM (/kI1Q) I think one is a function of the other. It's an interacting feedback loop.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 15, 2013 04:54 AM (bb5+k)

OT (sort of) - News from the weekend:

President Barack Obama was able to throw a basketball into the ocean from a rowboat two times out of twenty-one attempts on Saturday. The White House Press Corps gave him a 15 minute standing ovation.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon is a solid man (link in nick) at April 15, 2013 04:56 AM (pxDth)

63 45 36 somejoe Golf clap. Bravo! Posted by: fluffy at April 15, 2013 08:47 AM (z9HTb) Danka! My hard drive? It really is dirty...

Posted by: somejoe at April 15, 2013 04:57 AM (SSWdi)

64 ...You'd have been #1 if you didn't have to mouth the big words.....

Ah yes. CBD must be in the house.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 15, 2013 04:57 AM (4Mv1T)

65 Deeply disturbing. Someone needs to straighten Liz out! Good Morning Posted by: mindful webworker, off-topic in under-100 at April 15, 2013 08:54 AM (ktPHV) Good luck with that. It's like kickin a hornets nest full of ettes.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at April 15, 2013 04:58 AM (l86i3)

66 We get a doom thread, and missed this?

"South Florida residents are being warned to be on the lookout for one of the world's most destructive invasive species: the giant African land snail, which can grow as big as a rat."

And

"The snails also carry a parasitic rat lungworm that can cause illness in humans, including a form of meningitis, Feiber said, although no such cases have yet been identified in the United States."

Perhaps mankind's only hope is that Chinese gypsum in Florida homes may kill the damn things.

From
http://tinyurl.com/cd35zo4

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 15, 2013 04:59 AM (Hdt3V)

67 OT I know, but does anyone know where Captain Hate went? His comments always made me feel warm and fuzzy.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at April 15, 2013 04:59 AM (X+nFp)

68 The vast majority of new graduates owe money because of the regressive policies of the Republican administrations and Republican legislatures.

If government were more focused on the citizen rather than the investor and foreign entanglements, then college would be free, and they could subsidize home purchase for new graduates and the housing boom would start up, except this time it would be for the people!

Posted by: Peggy Jean from Santa Rosa at April 15, 2013 04:59 AM (/WLC3)

69 That article from insty indicates a recovery. It says that the people out of work less than 6 months are getting hired just fine. That is total bullshit. There is no recovery.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 15, 2013 04:59 AM (R8hU8)

70 Okay- Got to go let the physical therapist to see if he can twist my arm off at the shoulder. He swears it's good for me. I just wonder why I'm paying HIM for this, and not the other way around.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 15, 2013 05:00 AM (4Mv1T)

71 Gold tumbles to two-year low.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 15, 2013 05:01 AM (fwARV)

72 Tribulation is a pretty good choice of word to describe what I think is coming.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 15, 2013 08:53 AM (bb5+k)

--- Texas!

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 15, 2013 05:01 AM (R8hU8)

73 Ah yes. CBD must be in the house.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 15, 2013 08:57 AM (4Mv1T)

[just to make sure...it was said with affection and humor, and without any malign intent]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 15, 2013 05:01 AM (/WLC3)

In other news, the price of gold is collapsing, a bear market in gold has arrive.

World price has plunged through the $1400 an ounce mark.

(from a link at Drudge)

I read a report from Newmont that predicted $1100 an ounce gold by year's end.

Keep your powder dry and be ready to buy sometime this year. The price collapse is a signal to get ready to buy. It appears that the PIIGS and Cyprus may be selling off some of their gold reserves to raise cash. When this ends, prices will stabilize and begin to climb again.

Hold on to your butts!

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense..... at April 15, 2013 05:02 AM (RFeQD)

75 Let me tell everybody something about the long term future: you are all dead. In the long term the top 1% will continue to do just fine. Their share of the pie will continue to increase.

Posted by: occam at April 15, 2013 05:02 AM (Vns6X)

76 CBD- No foul. I recognize your MO. And good morning to you sir.

I even considered changing my nic to Johnny Reb. I hadn't heard that since I was a wee lad, till you mentioned it a few weeks ago.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 15, 2013 05:03 AM (4Mv1T)

77 occam at April 15, 2013 09:02 AM (Vns6X) Why didn't anyone tell me there was pie? I like pie! Greedy Bastards!

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at April 15, 2013 05:04 AM (X+nFp)

78 OMG - I owe more in taxes than I ever did, thanks to a bank forgiving SOME credit card debt. Bumped me way up into another bracket, even though I never really saw any money... Going to pay higher rate than the POTUS!!!! I cn deal with it on a payment plan, but now I cant seem to file the state taxes through HR Block - keeps sending me back to diff same screen

Posted by: Baldy at April 15, 2013 05:04 AM (opS9C)

79 and they could subsidize home purchase for new graduates

Fuck that shit.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, very old maid at April 15, 2013 05:04 AM (/kI1Q)

80 Somebody break out Occam's taser.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon is a solid man (link in nick) at April 15, 2013 05:04 AM (pxDth)

81 I guess we have Mary Kay of Cloggestain, ME dumber sister posting?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 15, 2013 05:05 AM (AgRBF)

82 Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 15, 2013 09:03 AM (4Mv1T)

Oh, but Tobacco Road is subtle, and evocative of a different time.

I love it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 15, 2013 05:05 AM (/WLC3)

the giant African land snail, which can grow as big as a rat."

*****

A snail is nothing more than a slug in a Winnebago.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon is a solid man (link in nick) at April 15, 2013 05:07 AM (pxDth)

84 Seamus unless it has permanent bad hair, then its elected to the House.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 15, 2013 05:08 AM (AgRBF)

85 A little salt for the snail should fix them right up.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at April 15, 2013 05:09 AM (X+nFp)

"You cannot possibly work with someone who really thinks himself all but omniscient; he's the grown up, everyone else is at best, just a naughty, stupid child"

As others have noted, it's not just "Teh Won", but an entire strata of American society now believes themselves to be the annointed ones...

To be certain, this isn't new - the early 20th Century saw an explosion of "progressive" idiots in every field - but the scale and scope of government was far, far less in everyday life (at least until the 18th Amendment - which should be serving as a stark reminder of Government failure)

Posted by: Kitty Frontage, previously known as Jess1 at April 15, 2013 05:09 AM (lbiWb)

87 Whoever occutard is: Statists like you simply believe there is a fixed pie to be plundered, while the productive class is baking and distributing new pies daily. Fuck off, statist.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 15, 2013 05:09 AM (FsUAO)

88 How about this. Schumer is pissed that New York would have to recognize out of state CCW permits. I lived in Vermont, which has NO permit necessary to carry concealed. I smell a rat here. With the disparate laws concerning CCW state to state, how do they square that circle? You CAN'T tell me they didn't consider this.

Posted by: Anthony L. at April 15, 2013 05:09 AM (bl6Iq)

89 Yeah AP- Instead of the House of Hanover we seem to be ruled by the House of Combover.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon is a solid man (link in nick) at April 15, 2013 05:09 AM (pxDth)

90 OT a little but has anyone else tried to stop caring about politics? It is like watching a slow motion trainwreck anymore. Posted by: Mr. Pink at April 15, 2013 08:42 AM (++kZl) I stopped for about 8 weeks after the elections. Helped, but eventually drifted back. I no longer watch even Fox, and never listen to Obama, Biden, Carney et al via insta-mute. All I really need to know about politics and politicians is that no matter what they (any of them) say, they're lying to me. I know bad times are just around the corner, and that is darn little an individual can do to avoid them.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 15, 2013 05:10 AM (Cnqmv)

91 And Hrothgar is sharpening his axe for the coming bad times. Just so he can say, "Vikings! Pillage! Plunder! Party!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 15, 2013 05:11 AM (AgRBF)

92 Seamus or House of Dickovers.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 15, 2013 05:12 AM (AgRBF)

93 One of you assholes is going to tell me where the damn pie is! I'm not joking. Don't make bust a cap in Occam's ass. I will, seriously, you guys.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at April 15, 2013 05:12 AM (X+nFp)

94 It's telling that Dr. Ben Carson is controverial, but Dr. Kermit Gosnell isn't.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 15, 2013 05:13 AM (fwARV)

95 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 15, 2013 08:59 AM (Hdt3V)

Put a bounty on them. 25Â¢ for each whole snail, payable to anyone 10-14 years old.

At that age, I would have spent all of my waking hours on that project.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 15, 2013 05:13 AM (/WLC3)

@93

"Don't tase me bro."

Posted by: Occam's taser at April 15, 2013 05:13 AM (pxDth)

97 You CAN'T tell me they didn't consider this. Posted by: Anthony L. at April 15, 2013 09:09 AM (bl6Iq) I'm willing to bet that the prog legal teams have already written briefs for the challenges to "state" power when it comes to gun control.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 15, 2013 05:13 AM (Cnqmv)

98 If government were more focused on the citizen rather than the investor and foreign entanglements, then college would be free, and they could subsidize home purchase for new graduates and the housing boom would start up, except this time it would be for the people! Posted by: Peggy Jean from Santa Rosa at April 15, 2013 08:59 AM (/WLC3) I look forward to a time when we can make college free and FIRE all those G*dD@M*** Liberal College professors who brainwash heads full of mush like yours. The reality is we are moving in that direction. On line education may one day achieve credentialed status. Texas is working to implement a $10,000.00 degree program, and I hope they succeed. We very badly need to defund the snakes nest which is what Universities have now become.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 15, 2013 05:14 AM (bb5+k)

99 3.14159265

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 15, 2013 05:14 AM (AgRBF)

100 All I really need to know about politics and politicians is that no matter what they (any of them) say, they're lying to me. I know bad times are just around the corner, and that is darn little an individual can do to avoid them. Posted by: Hrothgar at April 15, 2013 09:10 AM (Cnqmv) Point taken. I try to pay attention, educate others using a velvet boxing glove and keep a smile on my face whenever possible. I am blessed to have good things and it all came the right way. If we walk the walk we can change things, one knucklehead at a time.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at April 15, 2013 05:14 AM (l86i3)

101

83the giant African land snail, which can grow as big as a rat."

Just wait until they make the evolutionary leap and learn to fly!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 15, 2013 05:15 AM (026j9)

102 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 15, 2013 09:11 AM (AgRBF) I like the "Party!" feature.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 15, 2013 05:15 AM (Cnqmv)

103 3.14159265 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 15, 2013 09:14 AM (AgRBF) MMM, Pi. Good morning AP.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at April 15, 2013 05:15 AM (l86i3)

104 It's a miracle my lawn just mowed itself...but oddly my back is sore....

//Obamanomics

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 15, 2013 05:16 AM (LRFds)

105 Morning OSP!

Managed to crank out 2,800 words yesterday. Poor Sluggor is finding his tongue hanging out his mouth because Moonlight Rain is merely sitting across the table from him.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 15, 2013 05:16 AM (AgRBF)

106 Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 15, 2013 09:14 AM (bb5+k) Using your tax dollars against you is a classic liberal trick.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 15, 2013 05:17 AM (Cnqmv)

107 Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at April 15, 2013 09:12 AM (X+nFp)

Check with AlextheChick, but ask nicely or you will get an emu in the mail....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 15, 2013 05:17 AM (/WLC3)

108 99 3~~.14159265~~ Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 15, 2013 09:14 AM (AgRBF) FIFY

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 15, 2013 05:17 AM (FsUAO)

109 Per the SWUG Code, I thought college was for finding husbands? Now drop your panties, Sweetie Pie.

Posted by: Fritz at April 15, 2013 05:17 AM (UzPAd)

110 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 15, 2013 09:16 AM (AgRBF) Kick ass, bang it out kiddo!

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at April 15, 2013 05:17 AM (l86i3)

111 Time for a national conversation about beavers. Which should be banned, of course.
http://is.gd/uZt0zS

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, very old maid at April 15, 2013 05:17 AM (/kI1Q)

112 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 15, 2013 09:14 AM (AgRBF) Oh no you don't Anna. I'm not falling for the pie/pi switcheroo. I want my fair share. The SCOD said so.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at April 15, 2013 05:18 AM (X+nFp)

113 I stopped for about 8 weeks after the elections. Helped, but eventually drifted back. I no longer watch even Fox, and never listen to Obama, Biden, Carney et al via insta-mute.

--

I could've written this exact statement about myself. Word for word. After a couple of months, I drifted back, too. Like rubbernecking a car wreck, I guess. Fox is off my radar completely. Perma-mute is also in strong force at my house. The split second I hear any of those people, my rage-o-meter just explodes and the mute it on before they get out the first syllable. Of course, then I still feel the need to verbally assault them with an intense hatred I've never felt for anyone in my life.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 15, 2013 05:18 AM (3V9LU)

114

but ask nicely or you will get an emu in the mail....

Send the emu to me. We can use the eggs.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 15, 2013 05:18 AM (026j9)

115

A snail is nothing more than a slug in a Winnebago.

*****

Or as we call them here in Colorado between Memorial Day and Labor Day:

"People from Kansas."

(I'm kidding, Teej)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at April 15, 2013 05:18 AM (pxDth)

116 Send the emu to me. We can use the eggs. Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 15, 2013 09:18 AM (026j9) Yep, you can paint amusing pictures on the shells and sell them at flea markets.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at April 15, 2013 05:19 AM (l86i3)

117 "The Pi is a Lie."
- Sayings of GLaDOS

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 15, 2013 05:19 AM (AgRBF)

118 Sandra Fluke has a Winnebago?

Maybe I'll stay over a while.

Posted by: Brian "unwashed" Johnson at April 15, 2013 05:19 AM (3K3Md)

119 Just wait until they make the evolutionary leap and learn to fly!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 15, 2013 09:15 AM (026j9)

We used to catch rats in the early morning (while cleaning the pool at a swim club) and stun them with carefully thrown kick boards. Then we would fling them into the pond next door. Our joke was that we had discovered a new species of flying rat.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 15, 2013 05:20 AM (/WLC3)

120 It's times like this you wish the Norks could hit the broad side of a barn.

Posted by: zsasz at April 15, 2013 05:20 AM (MMC8r)

121 #97 Hrothgar, Yeah, I didn't think of that, and the groundwork is already laid, see 'Roe v. Wade' etc. Just the next step in their war against liberty. I really, REALLY hate these fucking people...

Posted by: Anthony L. at April 15, 2013 05:20 AM (bl6Iq)

122 The problem with Barack Obama isn't that he's an economic illiterate -- he's hardly unique among lawmakers in that respect. The real problem is that he thinks he understands just fine. Barack Obama is a vain man, and nowhere is his vanity stronger than in his own intellect. He really thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.

This to the nth degree

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 15, 2013 05:20 AM (1Jaio)

123 South Korean or American barn?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 15, 2013 05:21 AM (AgRBF)

124 - "The last thing we need is another harebrained government employment program...which we don't have the money for anyhow." Obviously. Only on the Internet, on college and university campuses, in the liberal media, from the Democrat Party, or in other chattering class circles, could anyone suggest otherwise. Speaking of long-term unemployment, below are comparative figures of the ranks of the measured long-term unemployed, from three points in very recent history: March '13 -- "the Obama recovery" -- 4.6 million March '08 -- "the Bush recession" -- 1.3 million March '03 -- "the Bush recession" -- 1.8 million Go figure.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at April 15, 2013 05:21 AM (r2PLg)

125 On the "the irony it burns" they built a new house next to mine...they have a for rent sign no yard no effort at a yard and they managed to destroy 1/8th of my developed over 3 years yard...

"growth baby!"

"The boom is BACK!"

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 15, 2013 05:21 AM (LRFds)

126 South Korean or American barn? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 15, 2013 09:21 AM (AgRBF) San Franciscan.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at April 15, 2013 05:22 AM (l86i3)

127 and Diogenes Lamp thanks for the kind words but I just read a bunch and paid attention to Adam Smith and Uncle Milty...

I'll be gone a bunch this week carry on my insane work.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 15, 2013 05:22 AM (LRFds)

128 Just wait until they make the evolutionary leap and learn to fly!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 15, 2013 09:15 AM (026j9)

******

Sort of like a flying squid, only with a butt helmet.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at April 15, 2013 05:22 AM (pxDth)

129 Retirement? Don't count on it. I don't -- I've known since my teen years that Social Security was a lie, and that if I wanted to retire, I'd have to do so on my own savings. And since I don't know how long I'll live or what my expenses will be when I'm old, I'll simply work as long as I'm able to. You're correct about SS. Only you can dictate what your expenses will be when you're old (barring major health issues, etc). Yes. We NEED to save on our own. Plan NOW to live BELOW your means and you should be fine.

Posted by: Citation X driver at April 15, 2013 05:23 AM (hhAGy)

130 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at April 15, 2013 09:22 AM (l86i3) Prolly a hate crime OSP. Occam is watching.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at April 15, 2013 05:24 AM (X+nFp)

131 Looks like this economy is a job for Stupor Duck!

Oh wait, he's already been busy.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 15, 2013 05:24 AM (AgRBF)

132 Question for the financial types: is this stagnation we see in the economy similar to what happened at the beginning of the Great Depression? Government propping up the private sector, rather than letting it fix itself. Which extended the depression, rather than ending it?

I'm tired of reliving The Forgotten Man.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at April 15, 2013 05:24 AM (i2Lsf)

133 http://www.bookwormroom.com/2013/04/14/the-left-uses-sex-to-break-up-american-families/

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, very old maid at April 15, 2013 05:25 AM (/kI1Q)

134

"The boom is BACK!"

XOM is moving a bunch of folks from here (NoVa) to Houston over the next two years, and it's funny to listen to the "whaddyamean houses don't sell in three days" comments from the DC area denizens.

Posted by: Kitty Frontage, previously known as Jess1 at April 15, 2013 05:25 AM (lbiWb)

135 # 125 "The boom is BACK!" It's gonna be!

Posted by: zombie Thomas Jefferson at April 15, 2013 05:26 AM (bl6Iq)

136 LiFB

Posted by: toby928© for TB at April 15, 2013 05:26 AM (QupBk)

137 132 Jay in Ames,

No this is far far far worse.

In GD version 1.0 we did not have a government class happily devouring massive percentages of our manufacturing and economic capacity in the name of Mother Gaia, quite the opposite they were engaging in things like the TVA which while still fucking retarded, inefficient and a waste of time had SOME productive potential no matter how wildly and grossly inefficient....

no this new and improved fucktardery is unique in the annals of written records in western civ.

We've never had a great leap backward on purpose before.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 15, 2013 05:27 AM (LRFds)

138 "whaddyamean houses don't sell in three days" comments from the DC area denizens. Posted by: Kitty Frontage, previously known as Jess1 at April 15, 2013 09:25 AM (lbiWb) Yep, we lost 52k on the house we just sold, although, the peoples house we bought lost a 110k. Some how I'm supposed to feel like I'm ahead but I haven't figgered out how.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at April 15, 2013 05:27 AM (l86i3)

139 Chavez's boy wins close "election" in Venezuela. shocked, floored, gobsmacked and all that

Posted by: ashley Judd at April 15, 2013 05:28 AM (XvrTA)

140 When sovereign interest rates return to the historical 3-5% range, we're going to crash, and a lot sooner than 2020.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at April 15, 2013 05:29 AM (QupBk)

141 That is not a loss OSP, that is a tongue bath.

*checks bank account online. IRS not raided it yet for taxes*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 15, 2013 05:30 AM (AgRBF)

142 140 Toby 928th,

I don't think they will be allowed to return to mean ever or by "ever" I mean in my useful lifetime.

You lack the power to legally murder your banker.

The Feds do not, literally or metaphorically.

Brave New World Baby.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 15, 2013 05:31 AM (LRFds)

143 I thought the African ones were non migratory?

Posted by: Castle Guard at April 15, 2013 05:31 AM (BAS5M)

144 "When I scan through the comments and come across something I regard as exactly right, I look down and see the name sven10077 under it.... This happens quite a lot for some reason." -DiogenesLamp Weekly AoSHQ Commenter Standings Top 10 commenters: 1 [1111 comments] 'sven10077@sven10077' [155.95 posts/day] - AKA what psychiatrists call a 'cry for help' Something about a stopped clock? #JustSaying #JustKiddingSven

Posted by: mindful webworker, off-topic in under-100 at April 15, 2013 05:31 AM (YLiN/)

145 You're correct about SS. Only you can dictate what your expenses will be when you're old (barring major health issues, etc). Yes. We NEED to save on our own. Plan NOW to live BELOW your means and you should be fine. Posted by: Citation X driver at April 15, 2013 09:23 AM (hhAGy) As long as you never need medical care. The government induced inflation in the medical care industry has made ordinary procedures require a mortgage. Government has been controlling both the Supply AND the Demand, and all they have done is fuck the whole thing up.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 15, 2013 05:32 AM (bb5+k)

146 144 Mindful webworker,

my best defense is "how many of my posts try to make a point?"

Which is a far, far lower number and more the reason why the 5th amdmt was invented rather than a strong logical defense....

"heh"

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 15, 2013 05:34 AM (LRFds)

147 Must take doggeh for a stroll, later.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at April 15, 2013 05:34 AM (l86i3)

148 In the long term the top 1% will continue to do just fine. Their share of the pie will continue to increase. Posted by: occam

Heh. You would think there would be a limit to the schadenfeude I feel when the dunderkinds that voted to have a corrupt low-level Chicago ward-heeler as the chief executive discover that he implements the pay-to-play-Chicago-Way, but there isn't.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at April 15, 2013 05:38 AM (QupBk)

149 Posted by: Lady in Black at April 15, 2013 09:18 AM (3V9LU) I never realized the intensity of pure rage and hatred that I could and do feel for these people that are destroying the country I love.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 15, 2013 05:42 AM (Cnqmv)

150 "I never realized the intensity of pure rage and hatred that I could and do feel for these people that are destroying the country I love." THIS X1000!

Posted by: Anthony L. at April 15, 2013 05:45 AM (bl6Iq)

151 UGH - now HR Block said I goofed on my Fed return, and it is something stupid- code said I put number where letter goes or some character? I cant find it

Considering they are getting more than 25% of my GROSS income (and not the AGI), they should take it with a smile...

Posted by: Baldy at April 15, 2013 05:46 AM (opS9C)

152 Well here's another update on the inlaws

The daughter of the Aunt who died at 93 recently is fighting with my MIL over life insurance MIL got which she figures should pay for funeral.

Crazy uncle still fantasizing that he'll get any money.
Wife went to visit her parents this weekend, just visited last weekend after they got back from Detroit. She said all they did was bitch about the way the house was , tidied, repainted etc. Came home because she couln't stand another minute, had a headache and slept half the evening.

On the plus side she seems to appreciate me a lot more. Heh !

FIL got a truck from BIL, now he wants my truck saddlebox, but they're going to buy him one for his birthday next week. He'll just put all his junk and tools in the back seat anyway. MIL doesn't want the saddlebox, junk or tools or anything.
Keep in mind I don't hear even half of what goes on, nor do I want to.

Posted by: Bill sometimes Bill from Canada at April 15, 2013 05:46 AM (jIeDg)

153
I suspect that one could do more good with the judicious application of a baseball bat to certain people than all the rhetoric spouted.

Reasoning with them seems to be unproductive.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 15, 2013 05:50 AM (SAMxH)

154 I think I'll go pretend to do something useful now. Thanks for the dooms. Mind the fire and remember, "the brown snails are not particularly too good" (at least not without plenty of BBQ sauce).

Posted by: mindful webworker, pixel manipulator at April 15, 2013 05:52 AM (6B4ha)

155 Happy SAFE NY act day, irongranpa! I trust your firearms are now in compliance as mine are, comrade.

Posted by: Anthony L. at April 15, 2013 05:56 AM (bl6Iq)

156 Cut te pensions 50% of those who leave the municipality. Taxpayers in the northeast shouldn't subsidize early-bird specials in Florida

Posted by: Avi at April 15, 2013 06:01 AM (St5/6)

157 @ 155

   Now all that remains is to see if the vocal opposition translates into the physical.

   Of the 62 counties here, 57 (at last count) are in opposition, along with 81% of county and local LEOs.

   Enforcement will be key, pending the outcome of the various lawsuits.

    Be an interesting summer.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 15, 2013 06:02 AM (SAMxH)

158 The taxpayers in the NE are the folks who retired and moved to Florida. You aren't subsidizing anything in the NE but the folks who left after attaining their pensions who then leave.

Posted by: ejo at April 15, 2013 06:13 AM (GXvSO)

159

Wow! Well, that was a great way to start your week... and to think I was missing the DOOM.

I'm off to buy can goods and ammo...

Posted by: Freedomlost at April 15, 2013 06:21 AM (qZ464)

160 "Barack Obama is a vain man, and nowhere is his vanity stronger than in his own intellect. He really thinks he's the smartest guy in the room."

The really sad thing is that with people like Biden in the room with him, it may be true. I suspect that Obama intentionally picks stupid people for his cabinet so he can be the smartest in the room.

Posted by: zmdavid at April 15, 2013 06:34 AM (Vdfe0)

161 I share an office with a guy who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. Hell, he's not even the smartest guy in this office. He loves telling people how smart he is. He can't grasp that you shouldn't have to tell people that. IF you are truly smart, let people figure it out. It should be easy for them.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at April 15, 2013 07:20 AM (Gkhxf)

162

I know more than a few French citizens. Most of them are really smart, and hard workers. They have an attitude about them, for sure, but they're certainly not socialists.

How it must suck to be them, these days. To live in any of these Utopian Nightmares that your idiotic neighbors voted for, must be horrible.

It's bad enough here, with Wrongway Peachfuzz at the helm. I cannot imagine being a conservative Greek, Spaniard, Frenchman, etc.

Posted by: RobM1981 at April 15, 2013 07:49 AM (FgxCS)

163

I share an office with a guy who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. Hell, he's not even the smartest guy in this office. He loves telling people how smart he is. He can't grasp that you shouldn't have to tell people that.

I once was giving a performance appraisal to a guy, and was required to ask the stock question of what he thought his greatest attribute was.

He replied, "My great intelligence."

It was all I could do to keep from laughing. He was by far the dumbest guy in my department, and I had accepted him there on a personal request from my boss to try to get some use out of him.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 15, 2013 08:22 AM (IDSI7)

164 "It's time for the government to start hiring the long-term unemployed."

Anyone that consistently displays a penchant for believing that the government should do something to solve a problem that was basically CREATED by the government needs to have the shit beat out of them. Really.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 15, 2013 09:36 AM (vd7A8)

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