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November 01, 2013

DrewM., The Pessmistic Psychic
— Ace

Jonah Goldberg has a column up today about Obama being, well, basically, either dumb or full of overweening hubris or both, because if he were smart, he would have gladly accepted the GOP demand to delay Obamacare, to give him time to sort his Hot Health Care Mess out.

Drew actually began to suspect that Obama would do that, back on September 17:

A couple of things occurred to me after writing this post this morning.
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My concern has always been that Obama will yield on a one-year delay in order to try and ensure that the roll out isnÂ’t the disaster itÂ’s shaping up to be. HeÂ’ll then spend the next year insisting that Republicans help him fix it, while blaming them for keeping millions of people from getting coverage (or for not having any since so many people are about to be dumped by their employers into exchanges that will be delayed).

Well, that prediction wasn't perfect, because Obama didn't yield. But not even a psychic can foresee that level of arrogance and stupidity.

@johnekdahl also seems to have predicted something like this.

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1 Howdy

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 01, 2013 10:01 AM (MnSla)

2 O arrogant? pshaw

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 01, 2013 10:01 AM (MnSla)

3 I predicted this.

Posted by: Nostradamus at November 01, 2013 10:02 AM (QupBk)

4 Obama being, well, basically, either dumb or full of overweening hubris or both,

I vote 'both'.

Posted by: Ian 'Go' Galt at November 01, 2013 10:02 AM (QdOC1)

5 Cruz may as well have been psychic.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 01, 2013 10:03 AM (MnSla)

6 Obama and hubris? Nah, bro.

Posted by: NCKate at November 01, 2013 10:03 AM (2VHEL)

7 Catastrophic damage is what he is holding out on. The more chips fall, the more cannot be lifted up again.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: TGIF! at November 01, 2013 10:03 AM (IXrOn)

8 He is dumber as a stump otherwise we would have his college transcripts.

Posted by: RobD at November 01, 2013 10:04 AM (sV3Dv)

9 Lol "dumb as a stump"

Posted by: RobD at November 01, 2013 10:05 AM (sV3Dv)

10 I suppose it must be that 11th Dimensional Chess game Boehner is playing.. Hahaha.. He pretended to want a delay of Obamacare just so Barky would insist on implementing it.

Bazinga!!!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 01, 2013 10:05 AM (f9c2L)

11 He is dumber as a stump otherwise we would have his college transcripts. Gentleman's Cs everywhere.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 01, 2013 10:05 AM (sByIH)

12 Geez, even I didn't deliberately steer AT the iceberg.

Posted by: Capt. Edward Smith, RMS Titanic at November 01, 2013 10:05 AM (3e8zv)

13 Valerie Jarrett told me that Obama is so smart he's bored....so I guess he just made this Obamacare mess to make things a little bit more interesting. Because he's got everything else under control.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2013 10:06 AM (JRmiD)

14 I am finding it harder and harder to keep a sense of humor over all of this. I feel it in my bones.. something very bad is about to happen.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 01, 2013 10:06 AM (l/N7H)

15 Gentleman's Cs everywhere. In fairness, they are more likely to be Affirmative Action B's.

Posted by: toby928© at November 01, 2013 10:06 AM (QupBk)

16 I suppose it must be that 11th Dimensional Chess game Boehner is playing.. Hahaha.. He pretended to want a delay of Obamacare just so Barky would insist on implementing it. The new GOP nuclear option. Oppose anything you want Obama to do.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 01, 2013 10:06 AM (sByIH)

17 The SCOAMF likes all of the businesses and unions groveling on their knees before him. He cares naught for the peasants.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: TGIF! at November 01, 2013 10:06 AM (IXrOn)

18 Malicious AND incompetent.

Not quite chocolate and peanut butter.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ has heard this before at November 01, 2013 10:07 AM (/kI1Q)

19 I One.

Posted by: Barakhenaten I at November 01, 2013 10:07 AM (4qthX)

20 Uh, B plus, you know.

Posted by: NCKate at November 01, 2013 10:07 AM (2VHEL)

21 I figured it would be a rough start from the technology side, but this level of disaster exceeded my wildest dreams. The fact that no one in the administration thought that it might be a good idea to jump at the Republican lifeline just adds to the sweet taste of their tears of pain.

Posted by: Chris at November 01, 2013 10:07 AM (aBOfW)

22 I believe that Sun Tzu considered arrogance and stupidity the most desirable of attributes in an enemy.

Posted by: maddogg at November 01, 2013 10:07 AM (xWW96)

23 You simply don't get it, Obama and the Dems are playing Nth dimensional chess while the Repub are chasing squirrels with a poop covered stick. Gahhh, it's so obvious.

Posted by: BuckIV at November 01, 2013 10:07 AM (gedHR)

Yes, that prediction scared me because here we were again, with the Republicans lining to help Obama out of a huge jam of his own making, with the inevitability of it blowing up in Republicans' faces.

I still can't decide if Boehner was a sly genius, knowing Obama would reject it, or a naÃ¯ve fool once again.

Posted by: thruth fairy at November 01, 2013 10:07 AM (ue2Nm)

25 That was a Bold prediction, Drew.

Posted by: garrett at November 01, 2013 10:08 AM (4qthX)

26 Gentleman's Cs everywhere. Posted by: bonhomme at November 01, 2013 02:05 PM (sByIH) I'm sure it was the Pass/Fail system. But, regardless. He was a failure only because he was so darn bored.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: TGIF! at November 01, 2013 10:08 AM (IXrOn)

27 "But not even a psychic can foresee that level of arrogance and stupidity." I could, and so could all of Dionne's friends.

Posted by: Miss Cleo at November 01, 2013 10:08 AM (Y92Nd)

28 I still can't decide if Boehner was a sly genius, knowing Obama would reject it, or a naÃ¯ve fool once again.

Posted by: thruth fairy at November 01, 2013 02:07 PM (ue2Nm)

I vote 'lucky bastard'.

Posted by: Ian 'Go' Galt at November 01, 2013 10:08 AM (QdOC1)

29 Alas, he was hoist with his own petard.

Posted by: RolandTHTG at November 01, 2013 10:08 AM (QM5S2)

30 I still can't decide if Boehner was a sly genius, knowing Obama would reject it, or a naÃ¯ve fool once again. Posted by: thruth fairy at November 01, 2013 02:07 PM (ue2Nm) I'm going with FOOL.

Posted by: jwb7605[/i][/u][/b] at November 01, 2013 10:09 AM (Qxe/p)

31 >Not quite chocolate and peanut butter.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ has heard this before at November 01, 2013 02:07 PM (/kI1Q)<

Hey! You got incompetent in my malicious!

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 01, 2013 10:09 AM (KjlbF)

32 I still can't decide if Boehner was a sly genius, knowing Obama would reject it, or a naÃ¯ve fool once again. Posted by: thruth fairy at November 01, 2013 02:07 PM (ue2Nm) I'd go with drunk.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: TGIF! at November 01, 2013 10:09 AM (IXrOn)

33 Great prediction by Drew, but will anyone ever lose when betting Obama will blame Republicans?
I mean, the Dems still blame Bush for a friggin' hurricane.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2013 10:09 AM (JRmiD)

34 At some point, people will just have to accept that socialism cannot be made to work. Although, probably not before the Humongous explains it to them.

Posted by: toby928© at November 01, 2013 10:09 AM (QupBk)

35 Oh, he's definitely full of overweening hubris.

And by "overweening hubris", I mean "shit".

Posted by: Jugears McFuckstick at November 01, 2013 10:09 AM (wtvvX)

36 TWAS INDUBITABLY BOLD, SIRRAH.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 01, 2013 10:09 AM (Y92Nd)

37 If you like your hubris you get to keep nemesis. Now watch him three putt.

Posted by: Beagle at November 01, 2013 10:09 AM (sOtz/)

38 Hey! You got incompetent in my malicious!

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 01, 2013 02:09 PM (KjlbF)

No, you got malice in my incompetence!

Posted by: Ian 'Go' Galt at November 01, 2013 10:09 AM (QdOC1)

39 If he is so fucking dumb, how come I have to hear his name for 8 years or more? He's just not playing the same game as we do.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 01, 2013 10:09 AM (l3vZN)

40 We've been pretty much unanimously screaming here that a delay would be the best thing to happen to the democrats, and plenty of republicans were eager to do the lifting for it.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 01, 2013 10:10 AM (eGmvn)

41 I am finding it harder and harder to keep a sense of humor over all of this. I feel it in my bones.. something very bad is about to happen. Posted by: jewells45 at November 01, 2013 02:06 PM (l/N7H) It already has. That is why the Robert's ruling was such a mind numbing body blow. I have never recovered from that.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: TGIF! at November 01, 2013 10:10 AM (IXrOn)

42 As long as the Democrats what to harp on the shutdown, they can't agree to delay ObamaDoesn'tCare a day.

You see I've been through the desert on a horse with no name
It felt good to be out of the rain
In the desert you can remember your name
'Cause there ain't no one for to give you no pain

Posted by: Orgainizing For Assholes at November 01, 2013 10:10 AM (e8kgV)

43 I mean, the Dems still blame Bush for a friggin' hurricane. Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2013 02:09 PM (JRmiD)
Remember, all of Detroit's problems are the Republicans' fault.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 01, 2013 10:10 AM (VtjlW)

44 @ABC7News BREAKING per @ABC: A TSA agent who was shot at LAX has died.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 01, 2013 10:10 AM (bCEmE)

45 Narcissistic and dumb.

Smart move = Oct. 1st

"My fellow Americans. The Republican House Majority has decided to forgo necessary funding of the Federal Government. As such the daily operation of which must be frozen. This will include our effort to provide quality health care insurance to the millions of uninsured and underinsured. "

Boom. He would have had the delay, the cudgel to beat the GOP, and plausible deniability.

The man is dense and self-absorbed. It's a miracle he's made it to age 50 without swallowing his own dick.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 01, 2013 10:10 AM (xz0nG)

"But not even a psychic can foresee that level of arrogance and stupidity."

'tis not possible, mon.

Posted by: Zombie Miss Cleo at November 01, 2013 10:10 AM (4qthX)

47 >>I still can't decide if Boehner was a sly genius, knowing Obama would reject it, or a naÃ¯ve fool once again.

Yeah, and all of the crap they flung at Ted Cruz was part of the act. Not. McCain et. al. really are that clueless.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2013 10:10 AM (JRmiD)

48 I still can't decide if Boehner was a sly genius, knowing Obama would reject it, or a naÃ¯ve fool once again.

Try "lucky, stupid bastard".

Posted by: Jugears McFuckstick at November 01, 2013 10:10 AM (wtvvX)

49 9 Lol "dumb as a stump" Posted by: RobD at November 01, 2013 02:05 PM (sV3Dv) You had it right the first time.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at November 01, 2013 10:11 AM (2Hgfp)

50 Barack: "You got your maliciousness on my incompetence!"

Michelle: "You got your incompetence in my maliciousness!"

Two Democrat characteristics that always go together!

Posted by: Reese's Obama Cups at November 01, 2013 10:11 AM (+H/11)

Jeanne Dixon wants ace to evaluate her predictions.

Posted by: polynikes at November 01, 2013 10:11 AM (m2CN7)

52 Jonah Goldberg isn't the sharpest guy. Just the smiliest.

Posted by: Jacques Webb at November 01, 2013 10:11 AM (MhA4j)

53 Well some of us predicted this a lot more precisely. Us RINOs. Obama was never going to defund or delay his signature legislation. It wasn't just him, it was Reid, Pelosi and all the others who helped ram this thing through. Even if they wanted to, which they didn't, how were they going to go back to the insurance industry that has been preparing for this for 3 years, building new risk pools, developing new plans, etc., and tell them never mind? Forget about all those people you have been contacting to tell them their plans have been canceled. Just scrap all that and redo your entire business plans in 50 states overnight? How were they going to go to the states and tell them to forget about their new Medicaid pools, the funding won't be there? Once this monstrosity was put in motion there were way too many moving, interlocking pieces put in motion to just pull a never mind. They were put in a trap of their own making. And thats why the bring it on and get the hell out of the way strategy was always the way to go. The Dems created this mess, make them own it entirely.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 01, 2013 10:12 AM (g1DWB)

54 Valerie Jarrett told me that Obama is so smart he's bored. Absolutely ridiculous. He can pick up the phone and talk with anyone he likes. If he were truly a genius (he's not), this would be a golden age for him. He could use his influence to collaborate with anyone he likes on any project he likes. He'd be corresponding with any number of geniuses on the planet on the rich wealth of inquiry ongoing. He's bored because he has nothing going on in his head. It's all circus music all the time. Pot and coke and heroin have burned out any intellect he might have had.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 01, 2013 10:12 AM (sByIH)

Gunman was off duty TSA. Workplace violence.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 01, 2013 10:12 AM (Kud5A)

56 Michelle: "You got your incompetence in my maliciousness!"

Two Democrat characteristics that always go together!

Posted by: Reese's Obama Cups at November 01, 2013 02:11 PM (+H/11)

Is that what she calls it now?

'Barky put your incompetence back in your pants. The maliciousness is closed!'

Posted by: Ian 'Go' Galt at November 01, 2013 10:13 AM (QdOC1)

57 The GOP, please don't throw in that briar patch. The Fox, Obama.... http://tinyurl.com/c9g45ut

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 01, 2013 10:13 AM (0FSuD)

Obama's refusal to delay just tells me that Slow Joe was telling the truth when he said he and Obama had no clue that the website was a disaster.

And that truth is more of an indictment of their incompetence than if he had known and refused a delay.

Posted by: polynikes at November 01, 2013 10:13 AM (m2CN7)

59 You misspelled "psychotic."

I actually repeatedly protested that delay was a gift, that ObamaCare was a disaster waiting to happen and the smart (non-Cruz) thing to do was just let it happen and fall of its own weight. Of course I had no idea about the website design flaws, that was just a gift. The PPACA (or as the acronym is properly pronounced, pointed out by someone else: "Pee-pee Ca-ca") was and is bound to fail because the young healthy people it MUST have paying in won't buy it and most everyone will experience sharply increased prices, not the $2500/year less per family promised by Obama (yeah, the "you can keep it" was far from his only lie about this).

Posted by: Adjoran at November 01, 2013 10:14 AM (473jB)

60 Weapons grade hubris by the gigaton.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 01, 2013 10:14 AM (qf9ds)

61 I'm going with a combination of dumb and an entire lifetime of being told that he was brilliant without ever having to back that so-called brilliance up with any actual non-affirmative action accomplishments. This is what you get when a dumb person has unearned self esteem. He really believes that he is a better speech writer than all those professional speech writers.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 01, 2013 10:14 AM (AALPt)

62 Its the nature of NPD

The NPD afflicted believe something is accomplished simply because it was stated. It is assumed minions will scurry off and "make it so"

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 01, 2013 10:14 AM (4tK7k)

63 55 Gunman was off duty TSA. Workplace violence. Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 01, 2013 02:12 PM (Kud5A) When did the TSA start hiring Postal workers? Same union?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 01, 2013 10:14 AM (0FSuD)

64 Alyssa Milano sex tape...Assholes!

Posted by: dananjcon at November 01, 2013 10:15 AM (wmU4G)

65 He's bored because he has nothing going on in his head. It's all circus music all the time. That allusion made me laugh. The calliope ... the calliope ...

Posted by: toby928© at November 01, 2013 10:15 AM (QupBk)

66 Fat bastard on fat bastard violence.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 01, 2013 10:15 AM (Kud5A)

67 @22 Not just Sun Tzu. The modern Chinese and Russians are threatening to nuke us on a daily basis while JEF purges the military and threatens to disarm completely. Simultaneously the MFM ignores the provocations. With this president and media, who needs enemies? I want a fallout shelter for Xmas.

Posted by: Beagle at November 01, 2013 10:15 AM (sOtz/)

68 Let It Burn

Posted by: Gmac - Pondering the coming implosion at November 01, 2013 10:15 AM (4pjhs)

69 Weapons grade hubris by the gigaton.

Giggity.

Posted by: Quagmire at November 01, 2013 10:15 AM (UHsBS)

70 5 Cruz may as well have been psychic. Posted by: JoethefatmanÂ™ (@joethefatman1) at November 01, 2013 02:03 PM (MnSla) A couple of days ago a friend said to me, "I guess maybe Cruz was right."

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 01, 2013 10:15 AM (AALPt)

71 39 If he is so fucking dumb, how come I have to hear his name for 8 years or more? He's just not playing the same game as we do. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 01, 2013 02:09 PM (l3vZN) Remember that TV show "24"? The movie "Deep Impact"? Battlespace preparation by Hollywood manipulators.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at November 01, 2013 10:16 AM (bb5+k)

72
He can't give a one year delay until after the date which gets him past next year's election.

call me a pessimist too.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 01, 2013 10:16 AM (nKUHR)

73 But not even a psychic can foresee that level of arrogance and stupidity.

No. But those of us who watched him double down on every disaster that ever came out of the White House could...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at November 01, 2013 10:16 AM (FvyJS)

If you want to be scared, think about the entirety of the past three years or so, and how the press and the democrats have literally lied about every failure. This administration, with the assistance of Reid, has literally stolen trillions of dollars, screwed up the auto industry, the medical industry, and the oil industry, destroyed our military preparedness, ruined our middle east diplomacy, ruined our medical and insurance industry, and have used illegal tactics to prevent fair elections, as well as doing so much damage to the economy that there are eight million more people on means-based assistance than hold full time jobs, and the dems are using our tax money to not only benefit their donors, but to push even more people onto welfare programs.

Now, watch what happens when their incompetence in world affairs causes an even deeper recession, and our credit dries up, and interest rates normalize.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 01, 2013 10:16 AM (eGmvn)

75 TSA agent killed at LAX by off-duty TSA agent.

Posted by: Grim Reaper at November 01, 2013 10:17 AM (e8kgV)

76 When you look at it from the correct perspective that the goal here is purely to ruin the country the perfect prediction is easy. The sooner the better, to them.

Posted by: Duh! at November 01, 2013 10:17 AM (Zs83Q)

77 Now, watch what happens when their incompetence in world affairs causes an even deeper recession, and our credit dries up, and interest rates normalize. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 01, 2013 02:16 PM (eGmvn) You left out Iran nuking Tel Aviv.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 01, 2013 10:18 AM (VtjlW)

78 @53 Jack That's why I keep saying the cancelled policies are gone for good. Further, I believe this administration wants chaos on January 1. And yes, that scares me.

Posted by: RS at November 01, 2013 10:18 AM (YAGV/)

79 13 Valerie Jarrett told me that Obama is so smart he's bored....so I guess he just made this Obamacare mess to make things a little bit more interesting. Because he's got everything else under control. Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2013 02:06 PM (JRmiD) Maybe if he'd get his ass off the golf course and put in an actual work day he wouldn't be so bored.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 01, 2013 10:18 AM (AALPt)

80 A. The SCOAMTT is all about making it hurt. Remember the shutdown? B. The SCOAMTT is into rewarding his friends ( big business) and punishing his enemies ( hard working self employed) C. A delay in the individual mandate would only bring it closer to midterms, allow for implementation to be thwarted and require the SCOAMTT actually care about people more than ideology.

Posted by: Justamom at November 01, 2013 10:18 AM (Sptt8)

81 A couple of days ago a friend said to me, "I guess maybe Cruz was right."

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 01, 2013 02:15 PM (AALPt)

Whether through intent or luck, the dems own this mess now more than ever, thanks to him.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 01, 2013 10:18 AM (MnSla)

82 Action Shep leaps into action.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 01, 2013 10:18 AM (ZPrif)

83 Lol "dumb as a stump"
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stump = tree = forest = jungle = racist!

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 01, 2013 10:19 AM (Hx5uv)

84 45 ---The man is dense and self-absorbed. It's a miracle he's made it to age 50 without swallowing his own dick. Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 01, 2013 02:10 PM (xz0nG) --------------------------- You assume he hasn't?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 01, 2013 10:19 AM (dfYL9)

85 You left out Iran nuking Tel Aviv.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 01, 2013 02:18 PM (VtjlW)

And then Israel manufacturing radioactive Iranian glass.....

Posted by: Ian 'Go' Galt at November 01, 2013 10:19 AM (QdOC1)

86 But not even a psychic can foresee that level of arrogance and stupidity. Teh JEF (Preznit I Won)is a 30-second prime-time national TV ad for exactly that level of arrogance and stupidity. Use this knowledge to goad him into completing this historic political crash.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 01, 2013 10:19 AM (FlRtG)

87 Hell he's tried to double down on the double down on the Arab Spring. He's tried to double down on the stimulus. He did double down on the green energy initiative. And he split 10's on the NSA surveillance.

Posted by: polynikes at November 01, 2013 10:19 AM (m2CN7)

55Gunman was off duty TSA. Workplace violence.

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Obama probably looked forward to talking about how well the TSA did in stopping this guy up until they realized it was another TSA agent.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 01, 2013 10:19 AM (/Crba)

Obama will never ever give the Republicans anything. He simply wont do it after his humiliating defeat on the gun control votes. He got smacked down there and threw a temper tantrum on National TV because he felt he had lost face and was beaten by the Republicans.

He has been given every single thing he has ever wanted or asked for in his life and no one has questioned him or denied him anything. He will never let anyone seem to win anything from him for the next three years.

Posted by: Registered Voter at November 01, 2013 10:20 AM (AiKJm)

90 Moar Cowbell!

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 01, 2013 10:20 AM (Y92Nd)

91 so I'm with Mrs VIA, at the beauty shop. My stylist tells me she just got her cancellation notice for her healthcare. Good kid, who trends strongly conservative, without recognizing that she is one. She felt worse yet after I explained to her that her situation is really just.the pre-shit before the next wave of cancellations.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 01, 2013 10:20 AM (spcUX)

92 ItÂ’s not exactly a vote of confidence in the powers that be: A sizable number of Americans think the undead would do a better job than the brain dead in Washington, D.C.

Thirty-seven percent (37%) of American Adults believe the federal government would do a better job than zombies running the country today. But the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that most Americans donÂ’t share that view, with just as many (37%) who feel zombies would do a better job running the country and another 26% who canÂ’t decide between the two.

Posted by: Glenn Rhee at November 01, 2013 10:20 AM (e8kgV)

Between this post and the previous post we have the Republicans saying again and again that ObamaScare is a hot liquid mess and the Democrats insisting on deploying it no matter what.

Besides the delightful "told you" going around there are the Democrats now begging the Republicans to help them delay ObamaScare to save their necks. I can just imagine the terror and frustration mounting as the GOP toys with them* and the absolute horror as Obama insists again that everything is going to go forward.**

*A man can dream.

**I cannot see him having enough humility to agree to further delays in ObamaScare.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 01, 2013 10:21 AM (hLRSq)

94 And thats why the bring it on and get the hell out of the way strategy was always the way to go. The Dems created this mess, make them own it entirely. Posted by: JackStraw at November 01, 2013 02:12 PM (g1DWB) That was the fallback strategy. The primary strategy was to stop it in any way plausible. Real people are going to be hurt by it's implementation. Yes, the pain will be beneficial, but massive damage is still occurring. If we could have prevented the massive damage, we should have exhausted every effort to do so before letting the mass suckage begin.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at November 01, 2013 10:21 AM (bb5+k)

95 He has been given every single thing he has ever wanted orasked for in his life and no one has questioned him or denied him anything. He will never let anyone seem to win anything from him for the next three years.

Posted by: Registered Voter at November 01, 2013 02:20 PM (AiKJm)

That's one hell of an Achilles heel to exploit.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 01, 2013 10:21 AM (eGmvn)

Completely OT-

My sister has just texted me that Ben and Jerry's, the commies from Vermont, have a Ron Burgundy flavor of ice cream... "Scotchy Scotch Scotch", which is butterscotch ice cream with butterscotch swirls in it.

I may actually have to try this, even if it means giving those assholes money.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 01, 2013 10:21 AM (/Crba)

97 14 I am finding it harder and harder to keep a sense of humor over all of this. I feel it in my bones.. something very bad is about to happen. Posted by: jewells45 at November 01, 2013 02:06 PM (l/N7H) You and me both. My previous employer has dumped all of us retirees on that f**king exchange site that doesn't work. I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to buy insurance when I can't even set up an account.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 01, 2013 10:21 AM (AALPt)

98 Oh, and Obama couldn't yield on the delay or anything else. The shutdown was our stupidity giving him the gift of respite. All the news had been of his being owned by Putin on Syrian and humiliated by Ruhani on Iran, the drop in confidence of our allies, and the first serious cracks in his media firewall questioning his competence.

Without Cruz' grandstanding, there would have been no three week distraction that served ONLY to diminish Republicans' public standing further and give Democrats another shot at cracking the sequester, whereas a "clean" CR would have set those cuts in stone for a year instead of a new negotiation in three months.

But some people got to vent a bit and Cruz built a database of over 1.5 million people dumb enough to believe that giving their info on an "internet petition" that was never presented to anyone had some meaning other than putting them on a fundraising list for the future. And Obama got a month off instead of having to go directly from foreign to domestic failure. So there's that.

Posted by: Adjoran at November 01, 2013 10:22 AM (473jB)

99 The man is dense and self-absorbed. It's a miracle he's made it to age 50 without swallowing his own dick.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 01, 2013 02:10 PM (xz0nG)

You are assuming he has a physical characteristic that has so far not been proven by UN Weapons Inspectors.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 01, 2013 10:22 AM (qf9ds)

100 Charlie Kaye ‏@CharlieKayeCBS BREAKING. Law enforcement source tells @CBSNews the LAX shooter was an off-duty TSA agent.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 01, 2013 10:22 AM (ZPrif)

101 @NewsBreaker 4m LAX SHOOTING: *1 gunman opened fire *Shooter reportedly a former TSA Agent *1 TSA agent dead, 1 wounded *Gunman killed by police (@NBCNews)

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 01, 2013 10:22 AM (bCEmE)

102 55 Boss Moss,

thank God they're armed....

we need job control

Posted by: sven10077 at November 01, 2013 10:22 AM (9jfyN)

103 Wow, live action on Fox, shep interviews a computer monitor. Boy did they piss away a lot of money on this stupid shit.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 01, 2013 10:22 AM (0FSuD)

104

92ItÂ’s not exactly a vote of confidence in the powers that be: A sizable number of Americans think the undead would do a better job than the brain dead in Washington, D.C.

Thirty-seven percent (37%) of American Adults believe the federal government would do a better job than zombies running the country today. But the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that most Americans donÂ’t share that view, with just as many (37%) who feel zombies would do a better job running the country and another 26% who canÂ’t decide between the two.

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Well, neither of the two groups have brains, but at least we know how the zombies will attempt to f*ck us over.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 01, 2013 10:23 AM (/Crba)

105 So... how does it work in the Alinsky book if you create the crisis? I'm sure there's some sort of plan to use this to further destroy America.

/guns, butter and gold baby!

Posted by: shibumi at November 01, 2013 10:23 AM (25HWz)

106 Brandon you can now buy Ben and Jerry in semi good conscience. Since an evil corporation called Unilever has bought them out.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 01, 2013 10:24 AM (qf9ds)

107 That allusion made me laugh. The calliope ... the calliope ... Posted by: toby928Â© at November 01, 2013 02:15 PM (QupBk) Playing "Entrance of the Gladiators"!

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at November 01, 2013 10:24 AM (bb5+k)

108 79---Maybe if he'd get his ass off the golf course and put in an actual work day he wouldn't be so bored. Posted by: nerdygirl at November 01, 2013 02:18 PM (AALPt) ------------------------ OMG, no. Keep him on the golf course. Can't he take up a hobby? Ceramics? Stamp collecting?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 01, 2013 10:24 AM (dfYL9)

109 Why should he yield when all he has to do is ask for more money to fix the problem and then more and more? Then, if the GOP doesn't immediately fold, we'll be subjected to days of polling.

Obama: Like my colleagues across the aisles, I agree the system needs fixed. Hopefully they will follow through by allowing more borrowing because grandma will be eating cat food otherwise.

New ABC poll shows GOP losing ground....rinse repeat.

This does qualify as a crisis right?

Posted by: ryukyu at November 01, 2013 10:24 AM (C6XFd)

110 9 Lol "dumb as a stump" Dumb as a box of rocks.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at November 01, 2013 10:24 AM (DoZD+)

111 This shit is what Action Shep lives for.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 01, 2013 10:24 AM (ZPrif)

112 The scary thing -- a McStain presidency probably wouldn't have been materially different. Some of the minor details would change but the general arc of careening from one clusterfuck to the next would likely have been the same...

...resulting in a possible 8 years of Ogabe starting last Nov.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 01, 2013 10:24 AM (4tK7k)

113 Ben and Jerry's? Those commies sold out to the man years ago.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 01, 2013 10:24 AM (l3vZN)

114

Obama is always politicking. Maybe he thinks he will have the kinks out by the next election. But if people starting getting letters that their employers are cancelling them and the plans are getting more expensive, I think his gamble will fail. I guess it's possible that it could all be good by 2016, and maybe that was his real goal.

It's very likely he can count on the media to cover up again soon.

Posted by: petunia at November 01, 2013 10:25 AM (DAcBA)

115 Bret Baier ‏@BretBaier LAW ENFORCEMENT SOURCES TELL ADAM HOUSLEY THE SUSPECT IS A FORMER TSA AGENT

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 01, 2013 10:25 AM (ZPrif)

116 Obamacare sucks. Huh-huh huhuhuhuhuh

Posted by: Butt-Head at November 01, 2013 10:25 AM (4BA+Y)

117

I like Drew's posts and even though he is a pessimistic psychic, one can not see through infinite layers of fricking bullshit.......

So you keep on predicting Drew and I will continue to read and enjoy.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 01, 2013 10:25 AM (HVff2)

118

Posted by: Adjoran at November 01, 2013 02:22 PM (473jB)

My interaction with the public is exactly the opposite of you have stated. Of course you were against Cruz and his strategy prior to the shutdown so I can see why you believe it was a negative.

Posted by: polynikes at November 01, 2013 10:25 AM (m2CN7)

119 Calliope that plays nothing but Send in the Clowns perhaps?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 01, 2013 10:25 AM (qf9ds)

120 So conflicting reports, CBS says off-duty, Fox says former. We'll see who's right. Probably Fox.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 01, 2013 10:26 AM (ZPrif)

121

112The scary thing -- a McStain presidency probably wouldn't have been materially different. Some of the minor details would change but the general arc of careening from one clusterfuck to the next would likely have been the same...

...resulting in a possible 8 years of Ogabe starting last Nov.

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I'd say the main difference would have been that the Republican party would have felt obligated to do a lot of the bullshit McSame wanted, such as amnesty, cap-and-trade, ObamaCare, etc.

At least with Obama doing it, things got polarized enough that they ended up owning ObamaCare and haven't had the votes to do amnesty or cap-and-trade.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 01, 2013 10:26 AM (/Crba)

122 Unilever is a big soap company here.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 01, 2013 10:26 AM (Kud5A)

123 A young asshole, being interviewed on Fox, said it was loud so it was was an assault rifle. Precious Shep now implying it was not just an automatic rifle, but a semi automatic rifle. What a bunch of no nothing pussies. Semi automatic rolls off Shep's tongue, as do other things.

Posted by: Bill at November 01, 2013 10:26 AM (uvyrw)

124 So was the echo put in for Halloween?

Posted by: logprof at November 01, 2013 10:26 AM (4BA+Y)

125 They actually spent money on a poll to find out whether people thought zombies would be better at running the governmen,t and people actually spent time answering? Whoever thought that up needs to waste some more money in the government. :^(

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 01, 2013 10:26 AM (23Kgq)

126

The US Postal Service forbids carriers from being armed.

The TSA, not so much.

Yet, I suspect their mindsets are not so different.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 01, 2013 10:26 AM (eGmvn)

127 Obama had 2 SCOTUS picks in his first term. Two far, far left SCOTUS picks.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 01, 2013 10:27 AM (ZPrif)

128 TSA agent goes Postal.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 01, 2013 10:27 AM (Kud5A)

129 Now, watch what happens when their incompetence in world affairs causes an even deeper recession, and our credit dries up, and interest rates normalize. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 01, 2013 02:16 PM (eGmvn) This is why Democrat control of the information disbursement system is a national security threat. We need to launch world war III on Democrat control of Media. They deliberately withheld information that would have precluded this "Obama" disaster.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at November 01, 2013 10:27 AM (bb5+k)

130 If we could have prevented the massive damage, we should have exhausted every effort to do so before letting the mass suckage begin.
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp
.............
I am sympathetic to that point of view although I completely disagreed with it at the time. It was a noble effort trying to get it delayed, not only to prevent the personal suffering many Americans will feel, but because once an entitlement gets established it is hard to repeal.

That said, I am certainly glad it turned out the way it did. Cruz and others fought a good fight and Barky insisted it be implemented on time. Delicious!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 01, 2013 10:27 AM (f9c2L)

131 And that's not counting the huge #s of other federal judicial appointments.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 01, 2013 10:27 AM (ZPrif)

132 Zombies are mindless, not malevolent per se, so yes, they obviously be much better at running government.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 01, 2013 10:28 AM (4tK7k)

133 I get the feeling this shooter is just an off duty, disgruntled TSA Agent.

Posted by: garrett at November 01, 2013 10:28 AM (4qthX)

134 Obama had 2 SCOTUS picks in his first term. Two far, far left SCOTUS picks. Posted by: Flatbush Joe
..........
But he replaced lefties.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 01, 2013 10:28 AM (f9c2L)

135 Photos of the LAX weapon on Hot Air. They are blurry and distant but it doesn't look like an evil assault rifle to me.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 01, 2013 10:29 AM (Hx5uv)

136 Repubs didn't give W amnesty when he was still a popular war leader in his first term -- and extremely popular among Repubs.. They wouln't have given McCain amnesty either.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 01, 2013 10:29 AM (ZPrif)

137 Heil, Ein Krankes Huhn http://tinyurl.com/lewkjce //Lame Duck strikes Hail to the Chief

Posted by: Jacques Webb at November 01, 2013 10:30 AM (MhA4j)

138

99 The man is dense and self-absorbed. It's a miracle he's made it to age 50 without swallowing his own dick.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 01, 2013 02:10 PM (xz0nG)

He has Reggie for that and then they swap spit although TFG is spineless he isn't that coordinated to do what you say.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 01, 2013 10:30 AM (HVff2)

139 Wonder if TSA agents are issued rifles? I've never seen one with one. If so they couldn't take them home, I would doubt that. I have seen some swat like guys, local, in the airport fully armed, but not any TSA guys. Probably just another ghey love triangle. It is LA.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 01, 2013 10:30 AM (0FSuD)

140 He's always been able to lie and ignore his way out of bad situations before, so it's a learned behavior. Wright, Benghazi, FnF, Ayers, the 750k people showing up in DC to protest 404Care... you get the drift. So it's his go to move, with a huge media assist of course.

Except it can't work when millions of people are holding those cancellation notices in their hands. No amount of self delusion can overcome that physical reality. But he had to go with what has always worked in the past.

The key now is for the Rs to NOT throw him a fucking lifeline, like that Crispy Creme eating fatass in NJ did right before the 2012 election.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 01, 2013 10:31 AM (cHZB7)

141 134 Obama had 2 SCOTUS picks in his first term. Two far, far left SCOTUS picks. Posted by: Flatbush Joe .......... But he replaced lefties. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 01, 2013 02:28 PM (f9c2L) --Fortunately, his appointments, while relatively young, are not in optimal health. Sotomayor is one fat churro (sorry, haven't been to PR so I can't think of an endemic dish) away from dancing with the Reaper.

Posted by: logprof at November 01, 2013 10:32 AM (4BA+Y)

142

So it's sounding like an off-duty or ex-TSA agent killed and wounded other TSA agents at LAX? Fabulous. Just wonderful. And we trust these people to keep us safe from terrorists?

Prayers to the victims.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 01, 2013 10:32 AM (4df7R)

143 It would be much easier to get a blurry rifle through security.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 01, 2013 10:32 AM (Kud5A)

144 @135 Looks like a Ruger 10/22. It is a rife and not a shotgun.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 01, 2013 10:33 AM (0FSuD)

145 Obama was more concerned with trying to divide the GOP than the impending implementation of Obamacare. Agreeing to a delay would've given Republicans a small victory, and heaven forbid he allow that.

There's not much to do now but sit back and say "We told you so".

I see it as unlikely that the Narcissist In Chief would admit defeat now.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 01, 2013 10:33 AM (SY2Kh)

146 That is why the Robert's ruling was such a mind numbing body blow. I have never recovered from that. Hey now, Chris Matthews was comparing me to Roger Taney before I even ruled on O-Care. What exactly was I supposed to do, uphold the Constitution or something? He was calling me NAMES. BAD names. All of them at MSNBC were doing it. Bad names, I tell you. What was I to do?

Posted by: John Iscariot Roberts at November 01, 2013 10:33 AM (7ObY1)

147

Well, that prediction wasn't perfect, because Obama didn't yield. But not even a psychic can foresee that level of arrogance and stupidity.

He's sure - he doesn't think, he's sure - that he's the smartest person in the room, as well as the most fascinating (remember his comment to some basketball players that he's not used to not being the center of attention). And he's sure - he doesn't think, he's sure - that any contrary views to his own are mendacious, inspired by racism or just plain ignorant. So I think Jonah's got it pretty spot on.

And having dispensed that bit of wisdom, I'm out for the weekend. Stay healthy, Ace.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 01, 2013 10:33 AM (zF6Iw)

148 Without Cruz' grandstanding, there would have been no three week distraction that served ONLY to diminish Republicans' public standing further and give Democrats another shot at cracking the sequester, whereas a "clean" CR would have set those cuts in stone for a year instead of a new negotiation in three months. But some people got to vent a bit and Cruz built a database of over 1.5 million people dumb enough to believe that giving their info on an "internet petition" that was never presented to anyone had some meaning other than putting them on a fundraising list for the future. And Obama got a month off instead of having to go directly from foreign to domestic failure. So there's that. Posted by: Adjoran at November 01, 2013 02:22 PM (473jB) NO! Cruz did EXACTLY the right thing. This health care disaster is a greater threat than you understand. There was always going to be an endless stream of horrible news resulting from it, and Cruz made certain that everyone in the world knew this Healthcare shit storm was Opposed by Republicans, and wildly supported by Democrats. It was EXACTLY what we needed to do. EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at November 01, 2013 10:33 AM (bb5+k)

149 142 MWR,

sounds like another Dorner to me

Posted by: sven10077 at November 01, 2013 10:33 AM (9jfyN)

150 Brandon you can now buy Ben and Jerry in semi good conscience. Since an evil corporation called Unilever has bought them out. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 01, 2013 02:24 PM (qf9ds) Didn't Unilever come in and say yeah about that whole the CEO can only make 14x (or whatever) the lower person is paid thing? Yeah. We're not doing that.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 01, 2013 10:33 AM (VtjlW)

151

I actually repeatedly protested that delay was a gift, that ObamaCare was a disaster waiting to happen and the smart (non-Cruz) thing to do was just let it happen and fall of its own weight. Of course I had no idea about the website design flaws, that was just a gift.

----------------

I don't think anyone (except maybe the people actually working on it) expected the website to turn out this badly. But I think events have worked out just about perfectly for the Republicans (short of actually managing to outright kill the ACA). I suspect that Obama is particularly opposed to delaying Obamacare at this point because of the fight that he just went through with Cruz and the House Republicans to avoid delaying the launch of Obamacare. He's shown similarly stupid pettiness in the past (for instance, when the House voted to authorize the delay of the employer mandate that Obama had unilaterally issued by illegal edict), and the idea that he might have to actually give in to the desires of some of his political opponents (otherwise known as "negotiating"...) seems to be particularly galling to him.

In short, I've got a sneaking suspicion that the Republican shut down over ACA pretty much guaranteed that Obama would follow his current course of action.

Posted by: junior at November 01, 2013 10:34 AM (UWFpX)

152 Delicious! Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 01, 2013 02:27 PM (f9c2L) It's not hitting your pocket book? Hardly delicious for those threatened with jail and home confiscation for not having the income required by the ACA mandated purchase of "policy" to pay everything and get nothing but debt. Don't fool yourself repeating Obama's lie that those who can't afford his unaffordable "insurance" of nothing will get a federal financial break. NO SUCH THING.

Posted by: Jacques Webb at November 01, 2013 10:35 AM (MhA4j)

153 Photos of the LAX weapon on Hot Air. They are blurry and distant but it doesn't look like an evil assault rifle to me.

Looks like an AR to me.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 01, 2013 10:35 AM (SY2Kh)

154 @98
Ted Cruz was a poopy pants. Me said so therefore it is !

Shutdown bad bad bad. Me smarticle!

Ted Cruz bad bad bad. Me predicto-man!

Me psychic me gooood!

Meeeee!

Posted by: Adnauseum at November 01, 2013 10:35 AM (5ikDv)

155 So odd that they keep showing Shep reading his Outlook Mail live on TV.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 01, 2013 10:36 AM (ZPrif)

156 Second picture is better. I think it is a Ruger Mini 14, shots 223. Great gun.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 01, 2013 10:36 AM (0FSuD)

157 The Dem urge to control and fk people over now overcame their desire to give free $hit away in order to get votes to fk people over later. Get it?

Posted by: dirks strewn at November 01, 2013 10:36 AM (kfcYC)

158 I don't think anyone (except maybe the people actually working on it) expected the website to turn out this badly.
---

Right. We're used to capitalism producing an at least somewhat useful product.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 01, 2013 10:36 AM (Hx5uv)

159 My interaction with the public is exactly the opposite of you have stated. Of course you were against Cruz and his strategy prior to the shutdown so I can see why you believe it was a negative. Posted by: polynikes at November 01, 2013 02:25 PM (m2CN7) So many suffering from Confirmation bias.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at November 01, 2013 10:36 AM (bb5+k)

160 Watching someone read their Outlook Inbox isn't any more exciting when it's done on a giant 60 inch HDTV.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 01, 2013 10:36 AM (ZPrif)

161 Didn't Malicious and Incompetent play at Carter's inaugural ball?

Posted by: shredded chi at November 01, 2013 10:37 AM (NVddU)

162 148. Diogenes' Lamp And you are exactly correct.

Posted by: Jacques Webb at November 01, 2013 10:37 AM (MhA4j)

163 153 Hollowpoint,

looks like a Ruger 10/22 Mall Ninjad up....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 01, 2013 10:37 AM (9jfyN)

164 Photos of the LAX weapon on Hot Air. They are blurry and distant but it doesn't look like an evil assault rifle to me.

Posted by: WalrusRex

Try this one.

Looks like an AR or AK variant from here. Def adjustable stock.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 01, 2013 10:37 AM (xz0nG)

165 119 Calliope that plays nothing but Send in the Clowns perhaps? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 01, 2013 02:25 PM (qf9ds) To Slow, too wistful. "Entrance of the Gladiators" or perhaps "Over the Waves." Something silly, to befit the mind it is in.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at November 01, 2013 10:37 AM (bb5+k)

166 LA cop cars and uniforms look weirdly old-fashioned.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 01, 2013 10:38 AM (ZPrif)

167 161. Obama owns Pernicious Obese Ego

Posted by: Jacques Webb at November 01, 2013 10:38 AM (MhA4j)

168 Try this one. Looks like an AR or AK variant from here. Def adjustable stock. Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 01, 2013 02:37 PM (xz0nG) So the shoulder thingy is up?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at November 01, 2013 10:38 AM (VtjlW)

169 "It's all circus music all the time." Memorable phrase, quite beautiful.

Posted by: Pttdu Apiptix at November 01, 2013 10:38 AM (GXWXg)

170

Gunman was off duty TSA. Workplace violence.

Terrorism!!!Eleventy!

Posted by: Department of Redundancy Department at November 01, 2013 10:38 AM (QM5S2)

171 OMG, no. Keep him on the golf course.
Can't he take up a hobby? Ceramics? Stamp collecting?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 01, 2013 02:24 PM (dfYL9)

Old silver. I hear there's this 18th century cow creamer he really should get.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 01, 2013 10:38 AM (hLRSq)

172 Looks like an AR or AK variant from here. Def adjustable stock.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 01, 2013 02:37 PM (xz0nG)

"Is that the shoulder thingy that goes up?"

- Some MFM scrunt

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 01, 2013 10:39 AM (4df7R)

173 156 NIp Sip,

private stock then...maybe an ACR 5.56 if that is what they are calling the "tacticool"Ruger now

Posted by: sven10077 at November 01, 2013 10:39 AM (9jfyN)

174 162 148. Diogenes' Lamp

And you are exactly correct.

Posted by: Jacques Webb at November 01, 2013 02:37 PM (MhA4j)

Ditto.

Posted by: Ian 'Go' Galt at November 01, 2013 10:39 AM (QdOC1)

175 So how are Drew and John doing with their Moron NFL pics?

Posted by: kbdabear at November 01, 2013 10:39 AM (aTXUx)

176 Yes, Stalingrad is not absolutely essential, but we simply need to capture the place for the signifigance of the name. It's the optics.

Posted by: A pattern seen before at November 01, 2013 10:39 AM (Lf7Ci)

177 That said, I am certainly glad it turned out the way it did. Cruz and others fought a good fight and Barky insisted it be implemented on time. Delicious! Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 01, 2013 02:27 PM (f9c2L) It was the best outcome we could hope for if we couldn't stop it.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at November 01, 2013 10:40 AM (bb5+k)

178 153 Hollowpoint,

looks like a Ruger 10/22 Mall Ninjad up....

Unlikely. There's a magazine next to it and from a distance it appears to be an AR mag.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 01, 2013 10:41 AM (SY2Kh)

179 55 Gunman was off duty TSA. Workplace violence. Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 01, 2013 02:12 PM (Kud5A) Really? Not satisfied with hand raping people?

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 01, 2013 10:41 AM (AALPt)

180 Why is it slow here today?everyone in candy comas?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 01, 2013 10:41 AM (RZ8pf)

181 177 Diogenes Lamp,

which is what You, Drew, and others(incl me) said.......

Posted by: sven10077 at November 01, 2013 10:41 AM (9jfyN)

182 From US News:

Eye witnesses tell ABC News a man walked through the terminal dressed all in black and carrying a military-style assault rifle. He stopped and asked people if they worked for the TSA, one witness said

Obama may have found his great white terrorist.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 01, 2013 10:41 AM (Hx5uv)

183 161 Didn't Malicious and Incompetent play at Carter's inaugural ball? Posted by: shredded chi at November 01, 2013 02:37 PM (NVddU) ----------------- No. Malicious didn't hook up with them until the following summer. At the Inauguration, Tom Petty was still with the band, so it was Petty and Incompetent.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 01, 2013 10:42 AM (dfYL9)

184 I think it is a Ruger Mini 14, shots 223. Great gun. It's great for plinking, brush work, and it's got a great extractor. However, out of the box most of them are very inaccurate. They don't mate to the stock very well, so it moves around way too much.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 01, 2013 10:42 AM (sByIH)

185

119 Calliope that plays nothing but Send in the Clowns perhaps?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 01, 2013 02:25 PM (qf9ds)

"Yakety Sax."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 01, 2013 10:42 AM (zF6Iw)

186 It was EXACTLY what we needed to do. EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!! Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at November 01, 2013 02:33 PM Mega dittoes!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 01, 2013 10:42 AM (7ObY1)

187 178 Hollowpoint,

the other picture looks like the Ruger Mini or their piston in 5.56

Posted by: sven10077 at November 01, 2013 10:43 AM (9jfyN)

188 That said, I am certainly glad it turned out the way it did. Cruz and others fought a good fight and Barky insisted it be implemented on time. Delicious!
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And Johnny Mac and Ms. Lindsey made fools of themselves.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 01, 2013 10:43 AM (Hx5uv)

189 Ok that is just dumb. A tsa agent would know that people who work for tsa are most likely on uniforms. I call BS on a scary guy all in black walking through the terminal asking people if they work for tsa.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 01, 2013 10:43 AM (RZ8pf)

190 Do da dodadoda Do da dodadoda Dum didi dum didi di di di dum dum

Posted by: toby928© with a head full of circus music at November 01, 2013 10:43 AM (QupBk)

191 Definitely not a Longbow.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 01, 2013 10:43 AM (Kud5A)

192 It was EXACTLY what we needed to do. EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp

Concur. Cruz and Lee set the table.

Posted by: mrp at November 01, 2013 10:43 AM (HjPtV)

193 184 bonhomme,

a barrel harmonics treatment does wonders

Posted by: sven10077 at November 01, 2013 10:44 AM (9jfyN)

194 a military-style assault rifle. But to the MFM, every weapon is an assault weapon.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 01, 2013 10:44 AM (7ObY1)

195 Another report says he was wearing camo.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 01, 2013 10:44 AM (Kud5A)

196 Obama may have found his great white terrorist. Now if they can just find a link to the Tea Party and Evangelicals or Catholics.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 01, 2013 10:44 AM (23Kgq)

197 Coming downstairs from lurker land, like Rush said today, Nixon didn't tell this big of a lie this is like LBJ territory lying about 'Nam. TRUE!!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at November 01, 2013 10:44 AM (8Hnjw)

198 "...Â so it was Petty and Incompetent." Well played.

Posted by: shredded chi at November 01, 2013 10:45 AM (NVddU)

199

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) Â— A suspect was in custody Friday following a shooting at Terminal 3 at LAX, police said.

CBS NewsÂ’ John Miller said the unidentified suspect entered the terminal wearing camouflage and opened fire around 9:30 a.m., wounding at least three people.

I really hate pointing these things out because I despise how the left instantly makes nightmare situations like this into something political.

That said, I see "shooter in camouflage," and I can instantly hear Piers "What a fucking stupid ponce I am" Morgan's prissy voice babbling about how this was probably a veteran who just got home from Bush's war in Afghanistan blah blah blah PTSD blah blah blah ban guns. It's like I'm standing in the future looking back at today.

They are ghoulish, spineless fools, every last member of the MFM.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 01, 2013 10:45 AM (4df7R)

200 LA cop cars and uniforms look weirdly old-fashioned. Throwback day.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 01, 2013 10:45 AM (CRyse)

201 Annnnnd like clockwork: @piersmorgan So many horrible shooting incidents in America in recent days. When will someone, anyone, at least TRY and stem the endless gun death?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 01, 2013 10:45 AM (bCEmE)

202 He can't give a one year delay until after the date which gets him past next year's election.

call me a pessimist too.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 01, 2013 02:16 PM (nKUHR)

Exactly...Next Tuesday he will save us from this turrible burden foisted upon us by the Republikkkans.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 01, 2013 10:45 AM (wmU4G)

203 a barrel harmonics treatment does wonders True, but it irritates me that you have to spend extra money to do something that should be done at the factory. Eg: CZ UHR. It's expensive, but that thing is a tack-driver out of the box.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 01, 2013 10:46 AM (sByIH)

204 >>That was the fallback strategy. The primary strategy was to stop it in any way plausible. Real people are going to be hurt by it's implementation. Yes, the pain will be beneficial, but massive damage is still occurring. Plausible is an even higher bar than possible. There was no plausible way to stop it. No amount of wishing or screaming was ever going to change that. Cruz's strategy wasn't totally futile as another demonstration of just how bad this law is but it was always that, a demonstration. Of course this is going to cause pain and massive damage. That was the entire reason not a single Republican voted for it and we ran in 2012 on getting rid of it before it happened. We lost. Not enough people believed it was going to be as bad as we knew it would. So this is our best and last chance to turn it around. Let it crash and burn and run against it 2014. We can keep the House and win the Senate. And then we are in business.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 01, 2013 10:46 AM (g1DWB)

205 But not even a psychic can foresee that level of arrogance and stupidity. I have a buddy who calls such behavior "cocksure ignorant."

Posted by: jakeman at November 01, 2013 10:46 AM (vH4YP)

206 181 177 Diogenes Lamp, which is what You, Drew, and others(incl me) said....... Posted by: sven10077 at November 01, 2013 02:41 PM (9jfyN) Great minds think alike!

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at November 01, 2013 10:46 AM (bb5+k)

207 And Johnny Mac and Ms. Lindsey made fools of themselves. Posted by: WalrusRex at November 01, 2013 02:43 PM (Hx5uv) Yes. But when did their Tom Foolery stop them from producing more intrusive authoritarianism via legislating "common values" comprehensive reform packages?

Posted by: Jacques Webb at November 01, 2013 10:46 AM (MhA4j)

208

Eye witnesses tell ABC News a man walked through the terminal dressed all in black and carrying a military-style assault rifle. He stopped and asked people if they worked for the TSA, one witness said

So he was either dressed all in black or dressed in camouflage. I can easily see how those descriptions might work together.

Also, he was carrying a rifle, unless it was a shotgun, and wearing boots, although they might have been ballet slippers.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 01, 2013 10:47 AM (4df7R)

209

I hope that someone in the Republican party has the brains to go retrieve the video of the Dems shooting down the Republican proposal mentioned in the last thred. Give it to Fox and let them put it on continuous loop.

And how about all the videos of all the MSM talking heads chortling about how the racist Republican wingnutz were shot down unanimously by the heroic Dems!

There's a goldmine out there, Republicans. The only question is - how will you figure out how to lose the map?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at November 01, 2013 10:47 AM (Dxb1S)

210

CBS NewsÂ’ John Miller said the unidentified suspect entered the terminal wearing camouflage and opened fire around 9:30 a.m., wounding at least three people.

He was dressed as a trash can?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Your Stop for ThanksMas Squabbles and Festivus Grievances at November 01, 2013 10:47 AM (hLRSq)

211 I have a buddy who calls such behavior "cocksure ignorant." AKA teenager. BTW, have you heard that most Pot smokers arrest development at the age they start smoking? Just sayin'.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 01, 2013 10:48 AM (sByIH)

212 Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 01, 2013 02:43 PM (RZ8pf)

Crazy, deranged, and/or disgruntled isn't necessarily logical...

Posted by: Ian 'Go' Galt at November 01, 2013 10:48 AM (QdOC1)

213 While Obama is both arrogant and stupid enough to have not delayed while the delaying was good, I bet you my last dollar when the rubber meets the road and the tale is told it was Valerie Jarrett whose pride, ego, and full out asshole-ness and stupidity who made the "no delay" call. And all the good little idjits fell in line for full-in stupid with her. Think there will ever come a day before Obama leaves office she'll be thrown under the bus? Yeah, I don't either.

One thing no one seems to be talking about is the carve out Amendment saying if your insurance was gained "through collective bargaining" in any way the grandfather clause doesn't apply to them one way or another. Did anyone else notice how they were screaming foul back early in the year and then all went silent from them? Yeah.

Posted by: halodoc at November 01, 2013 10:48 AM (Fzbp3)

214 Now if they can just find a link to the Tea Party and Evangelicals or Catholics.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 01, 2013 02:44 PM (23Kgq)

- Or white supremicist

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at November 01, 2013 10:48 AM (R8hU8)

215 "He was dressed as a trash can?"

A TV monitor with CNN on.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 01, 2013 10:48 AM (IV4od)

216 Black is camouflage - if it is really dark.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 01, 2013 10:48 AM (eGmvn)

217
"You can't professionalize unless you federalize"

Posted by: Tom Daschle, D-S.D. at November 01, 2013 10:49 AM (5ikDv)

218 He was dressed as a trash can? Dr Who fans killin' people!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 01, 2013 10:49 AM (sByIH)

219 It's time we as a nation had a discussion about ballet slippers.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 01, 2013 10:49 AM (Kud5A)

220 No. I think you're wrong. Obama is secretly the Homey Badger. He doesn't give a shit.

I honestly believe that. He's acts in a completely illogical manner according to any other reasoning.

It's not "hubris". It's detachment. When one is solely focused on destruction, they are demurring, projecting blame, denying responsibility and trying to displace intellect with emotion. Ultimately, that is wht he is trained for; the art of community rabble rousing.

In diagnostic terms- I really believe he's a classic sociopath. Even his background bears that out.

Posted by: Marcus at November 01, 2013 10:49 AM (s5Etm)

221 I predicted I wouldn't cave to that terrorist Ted Cruz -- I couldn't let him win no matter how badly I wanted to delay BroncoBamaCare. Sigh. Also, MamaBama wouldn't let me. She hates Ted Cruz.

Posted by: Bronco Bama at November 01, 2013 10:49 AM (1I4sj)

222

@166LA cop cars and uniforms look weirdly old-fashioned.

----------------

The entire Greater Los Angeles area (i.e. both LA and the surrounding counties) still use black and whites, as opposed to blue and whites or whatever the current car colors are in other parts of the country. I know there was a move to shift toward other colors in some of the local city departments about 20-30 years ago, but it didn't go over well and everything was switched back.

It probably wouldn't be as noticeable if it weren't for the fact that 90% of the TV shows and movies with cops seem to be set on the East Coast.

Posted by: junior at November 01, 2013 10:50 AM (UWFpX)

223 214 "Â Or white supremicist " According to the MSM, that's the same thing.

Posted by: shredded chi at November 01, 2013 10:50 AM (NVddU)

224

Annnnnd like clockwork:

@piersmorgan

So many horrible shooting incidents in America in recent days. When will someone, anyone, at least TRY and stem the endless gun death?

Posted by: Tami at November 01, 2013 02:45 PM (bCEmE)

Never fails. What a colossal asshat.

Hey, Piers! I've got an idea. How about you offer to use yourself as a human shield? Go stand in front of elementary schools in high crime areas so that any gangland drivebys will hit your flabby English crumpet of a body first instead of wounding or killing innocent children.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 01, 2013 10:51 AM (4df7R)

225 AKA teenager. Heh. The first time he used it about his wife (now ex), who happens to be a ridiculously successful stockbroker. Very smart, not a lick of common sense, and a total pain in the ass. My buddy made out like a bandit from the split--lots of dough, and no more caterwauling. And yes, I've heard that about pot smoking...but I can't imagine what choom-baked world leader you're talking about.

Posted by: jakeman at November 01, 2013 10:52 AM (vH4YP)

226 My frenshh, it's up to reasonable Republicans to think of Americans first and help our President fix Obamacare.

Surely he'll appreciate it and thank Republicans for helping him out.

Posted by: John McCain at November 01, 2013 10:52 AM (aTXUx)

227 Wait until people who have signed up with 404Care start to get messages on how to fix the glitches. And includes this - http://tinyurl.com/lgkko8n

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 01, 2013 10:53 AM (qf9ds)

228 One thing no one seems to be talking about is the carve out Amendment saying if your insurance was gained "through collective bargaining" in any way the grandfather clause doesn't apply to them one way or another. Did anyone else notice how they were screaming foul back early in the year and then all went silent from them? Yeah.

Posted by: halodoc at November 01, 2013 02:48 PM (Fzbp3)

The fact that the supreme court refused to acknowledge disparate treatment, called the mandate a mandate for one section of the law, and a tax for another section of the law, and watched silently as the administration selectively added or removed portions of it on the fly was all I needed to see to know that there is no political solution. We live in a lawless, post-constitutional state, and elections are too peaceful (and fraudulent) to be the agent of change.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 01, 2013 10:53 AM (eGmvn)

229

"You got your incompetence in my malice!"

"You got your malice in my incompetence!"

Posted by: Reese's Malicious Incompetence Cups at November 01, 2013 10:53 AM (w41GQ)

230 Ted Cruz IS the chosen one as far as I can see, I'll vote for him unless something bad happens.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at November 01, 2013 10:54 AM (8Hnjw)

231 bonhomme, only if he kept yelling "Exterminate!" in a mechanical voice.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 01, 2013 10:55 AM (qf9ds)

232 A TV monitor with CNN on. That would be so crafty, no one would ever look at him.

Posted by: Nielsons at November 01, 2013 10:57 AM (QupBk)

233 These kinds of ballet shoes?
http://tinyurl.com/mrp8vd6

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 01, 2013 10:57 AM (qf9ds)

234 Annnnnd like clockwork: @piersmorgan So many horrible shooting incidents in America in recent days. When will someone, anyone, at least TRY and stem the endless gun death? I agree. Since this was a "cop", disarm the cops!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 01, 2013 10:57 AM (CRyse)

235 Here's what I posted on my Facebook today: For any doctors out there: I hope you are taking notes on the Democrats' treatment of the insurance companies to cover for their own lies. You are next since you also 'profit off the sick' and probably have some money.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at November 01, 2013 10:58 AM (9Bdcz)

236 174 162 148. Diogenes' Lamp And you are exactly correct. Posted by: Jacques Webb at November 01, 2013 02:37 PM (MhA4j) Ditto. Posted by: Ian 'Go' Galt at November 01, 2013 02:39 PM (QdOC1) 181 sven 186 Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 01, 2013 02:42 PM (7ObY1) Honestly, we don't need more laws. We certainly don't WANT any more laws. The only thing we want from Congress is to rescind their corruptions of Constitutional Governance from off our backs. Meanwhile, may they choke on their own perpetuation of legislation sooner than later. Of course Washingtonians are hell bent on squeezing blood from turnips. Even a worm will turn. http://tinyurl.com/km3o7bd

Posted by: Jacques Webb at November 01, 2013 10:58 AM (MhA4j)

237 @32 I'd go with drunk.

"There is a providence that protects ~~idiots~~ morons, drunkards, children, and the United States of AmericaÂ” --Bismarck

It shall not fail us now. Not with our qualifications.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 01, 2013 11:02 AM (JNUY4)

238

"He was dressed as a trash can?"

Why is everybody looking at me?

Posted by: Oscar the Grouch at November 01, 2013 11:04 AM (5iuEW)

239 Remember when they used to hang looters from streetlamps? Instead of electing them to public office, I mean?

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at November 01, 2013 11:05 AM (yLz7K)

240

Obama is the King and the healthcare web site is his non existent clothes.

Posted by: polynikes at November 01, 2013 11:05 AM (m2CN7)

241 " My frenshh, it's up to reasonable Republicans to think of Americans first and help our President fix Obamacare. " = no matter who says that, there is no good to come throwing bad money after bad, not to mention going into massive bankruptcy nationally for SQUAT medical care via massive insurance industry profits. ACA is rotten from the core. No getting anything good from ACA. Just hardship and tragedy. Whoever passed ACA and enables its existence should get dumped alongside the shit and flushed away with their special packages.

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 01, 2013 11:06 AM (MhA4j)

242 239 stock parade, tar and feather, railed out of town

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 01, 2013 11:08 AM (MhA4j)

243 The Republicans snatched defeat from the jaws of victory... and Obama snatched it right back.

Posted by: sandy burger at November 01, 2013 11:08 AM (6ClcK)

244 Can anyone point to any evidence of Obama's intelligence? The Libs are so certain of his genius, it would be nice if they could cough up any examples other than "because."

Posted by: Null at November 01, 2013 11:15 AM (DuH+r)

245

I want to be on the doctors side when the SHTF for them more than it has already but they have inflicted much of the healthcare problem on themselves , either by being part of the corrupt system of treatment or their silence about that system. To be fair I have to say that the government in their quest for ' patient rights' have also allowed the system to become corrupt.

For example , are people aware of how many unnecessary back operations are done each year? And how many have resulted in the medical condition becoming worse? The pill mills and unscrupulous doctors are numerous. Fraud is rampant. That is reform we need.

Posted by: polynikes at November 01, 2013 11:15 AM (m2CN7)

246 15 Gentleman's Cs everywhere.

In fairness, they are more likely to be Affirmative Action B's.

I'm thinking they are Anti-Racist A's.

Posted by: Null at November 01, 2013 11:16 AM (DuH+r)

247 Everyone has their fatal flaw. As they say, there was never a horse that couldn't be rode, never a cowboy that couldn't be throwed. I think we have Obama's fatal flaw. He CAN'T let us look like we might be right even on a little thing because then we "WIN". Even when it's clear we are right. The fact that he CAN'T, not won't, CAN'T allow us minor wins when it is within his best interest to do so, opens up all sorts of gambit options like the one we just did. He CAN'T decline a gambit. He must always accept them.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at November 01, 2013 11:25 AM (0q2P7)

248

"He can't give a one year delay until after the date which gets him past next year's election."

He can't delay. If he does the insurance companies bail on the exchanges and any plans they've sold through them. They need all that extra money "young and healthy" market money coming in RIGHT NOW or they go into the red real fast.

It's going to collapse either way and delaying this monster will not save it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 01, 2013 11:28 AM (LA7Cm)

249 I have a question about the bills being proposed by Johnson and Landrieu and others, re "OK this time we mean it, you get to keep your plan."

How would that work, exactly?

So those who've already received cancellation notices... what, the insurance companies have to send them new letters, saying they get their old plans back? How exactly can the insurance companies do that, now? And what if those who received cancellation notices already signed on to the exchanges?
It just seems like a woulda-coulda-shoulda fantasy/ further clusterfuck. But do bills like that allow the Dem pols voting for them to more effectively shift blame to the insurance companies? Or (if passed) could such ad hoc "repairs" be bandaids that postpone (past election) the burning to come?

And what about the employer mandate, how would it affect that?

Someone explain.

Posted by: lael at November 01, 2013 11:33 AM (m6RUG)

250 Obama is shooting the moon. What does he care? He's done. And he will go down in history as the man who got the socialist nose under the tent.

The left will revere him; he hates everyone else.

Posted by: PJ at November 01, 2013 11:51 AM (ZWaLo)

251 PS I liked the original idea from Ron Johnson; but now that Dems like Landrieu seem to be piggybacking on it, I'm not so sure.

Dems voted for this debacle. They unanimously knocked down GOP attempts to ensure people who already had plans would have the choice to keep them. Why give Dems a chance (in appearance) to take some of that mistake back?

Especially since (it seems to me) it's too late now. But it may give some Dem incumbents a cover that they don't deserve.

Posted by: lael at November 01, 2013 12:03 PM (m6RUG)

252 There's lots of blatant and willful ignorance in what the talking heads and blogfathers have to say about Obama.

He's doing exactly what the engineered election picked him to do. He's the perfect figurehead for the neo-marxists who infest the DNC to the point of absolute and uncontested ownership of that party.

He was hand picked and gamed into his position to accelerate the destruction of this nation and begin the process of dissolving sovereignty of same.

The Long Marchers have nearly completed their oft stated objective.

Posted by: Grimmy at November 01, 2013 12:07 PM (uUsh9)

253 I signed up to Obamacare on an iPhone. Don't know what everyone's complaining about. Since I only make $18,000 a year, I was granted a generous subsidy. It feels good to be a taker. Don't hate me though. I plan to be a maker, which means I'll be taxed royally at some point. The bronze plan costs me only $34 a year and the silver plan costs me $66 a month. Going for the silver. I'm a smart taker/future maker. Heard almost no doctors accept the bronz plan, but the O admin is hiding that. Jan 1 is going to be a bad day for them. Hope they got drunk enough the night before. Two things: 1) The middle class, like 30,000-50,000 are going to be totally screwed by this. Forced to by more expensive plans that do the same or less. 2) The working poor, like me, say, 12,000-30,000 a year are going to benefit. The GOP can take the Senate w/ this, but they must be wise and tactical. Target the people making 30,000-100,000 (combined income), but don't forget that some people, many, really, are wining w/ this. Those in the 12,000-30,000 range (more people the you'd think). The way the GOP can do this is by proposing a plan that basically does what Ocare does, but at like a fifth or tenth of the cost. Also w/ malpractice reform that will lower costs for people who currently have insurance. But I'll tell you: If we don't produce our own plan we're going to lose this fight. By that I mean, we may win the battle to take the Senate in 2014, but ultimately lose the war for more efficient (if not less) government .

Posted by: trickamsterdam at November 01, 2013 12:26 PM (ZdAo1)

254 A big part of the reason Obama didn't take the Obamacare delay that he needed is he's a vindictive prick determined to get those Republicans. And now it's backfiring on him. Good!

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at November 02, 2013 04:51 AM (vFmT2)

255 Hey trick, I do NOT want the @#$% Feds to be more "efficient" in running my life!

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at November 02, 2013 04:54 AM (vFmT2)

256 @wannabeanglican: I get it. I'm just saying if the GOP doesn't follow my advice (and by that I don't mean mr personally, but the general ideas), your still going to get your huge Fed Gov, but it won't run even remotely efficiently in terms if cost vs services. Yeah, I get it. Some want to "let it burn". And that may be ok for this particular election cycle. Buy ultimately burning in a house means we all burn. Obamacare must be fixed or it has the potential to destroy the country. You must actually think of the reality of 75% of Americans w/out insurance. That's the kind of apocalypse we could be heading for. Ocare is not sustainable. Use it to take the Senate this year? Yes. But let it destroy the US? No. It must be repealed and replaced. That'd what I mean by "efficient". Fuck "let it burn". I mean, fuck, man, it's our own house.

Posted by: trickamsterdam at November 02, 2013 12:27 PM (5ujLp)

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