August 18, 2013

Economists: Brit high speed rail scheme costs will be 2X projections
— Purple Avenger

I know, its a real shocker that proponents of these schemes might grossly low-ball their actual costs.

The study by the Institute of Economic Affairs warns the scheme’s cost has been dramatically underestimated and says it “defies economic logic”.

It will bluntly call for it to be cancelled and will suggest ministers are pursing the project to “buy votes” in Labour’s northern heartlands.

The verdict of the report is the latest blow to the troubled scheme and comes after the Department for Transport admitted its own official estimate of the cost was wrong...

Dramatically underestimated? Defy economic logic? Vote buying? Un-possible! These are TOP MEN, of unimpeachable integrity.

In other completely unrelated news, a BBC Australia correspondent is making a move to New York to become their NY/UN correspondent.

His "goodby Australia" and "hello NY" columns are worth a read. This is a "full Weiner" thread -- let it all hang out.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at 01:34 PM | Comments (301)
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1 Such good news coming right after their disaster with all those wind turbines.  Its like "green stuff" is all shit huh?  Who wold have known it. <sarc>

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2013 01:55 PM (lZvxr)

2 Can you believe these guys?  Wasting money on high speed rail when what we really need is flying cars.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 18, 2013 01:57 PM (VlXYw)

3 ( Cue Mighty Mouse theme.... ) Here I come to save the day!

Posted by: Hi! Speed! Rail! at August 18, 2013 01:59 PM (ULH4o)

4 The people must be Trained!

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 18, 2013 02:00 PM (ZshNr)

5 We are fixated on really fast, useless and expensive railroads.

Posted by: The Left at August 18, 2013 02:01 PM (Dwehj)

6 And the color of your skin. That fascinates us to no end, as well.

Posted by: The Left at August 18, 2013 02:03 PM (Dwehj)

7 2x?  fuckin' pikers . . .  c'mon out to Califuckinfornia and find out how to do this thang. 

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 02:03 PM (8lmkt)

8 I thought we already had 'high speed rail', AKA airplanes.

Posted by: profligatewaste at August 18, 2013 02:03 PM (R3JkO)

9 As the WSJ pointed out years & years ago, these idiot projects are beloved of mayors & unions & "people who like to tell everyone else how they ought to live their lives." What they don't do is get people where they want to go on time. For that? You need cars....

Posted by: backhoe at August 18, 2013 02:05 PM (ULH4o)

10 srsly, you wanna defy economic logic, you are on the wrong continent, folks.  c'mon, it's nice here and there's a decent chance you won't be murdered or robbed.  plus, we totes have mosques!!!

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 02:06 PM (8lmkt)

11 9 As the WSJ pointed out years & years ago, these idiot projects are beloved of mayors & unions & "people who like to tell everyone else how they ought to live their lives." What they don't do is get people where they want to go on time. 

For that? You need cars.... 
Posted by: backhoe at August 18, 2013 06:05 PM (ULH4o)


In college, it took an hour to take the bus from home to campus.    Driving by car, it took 10, maybe 15 minutes.   

The only reason why the bus was cheaper is because they folded it into our student fees. 

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 18, 2013 02:07 PM (GoMJD)

12 What they don't do is get people where they want to go on time.

Dangerous talk comrade.  You'll go where the state wants you to go when they tell you to go.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 18, 2013 02:08 PM (vZOX+)

13 A Sacramento (CA capital) judge last week ruled that CA violated one of the funding provisions of the High Speed Boondoggle-rail (i.e., the obligation to identify legitimate funding sources) and will hold another hearing to determine the remedy.  Let's hope he doesn't get squeezed and puts the kibosh on this vulgarity.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 18, 2013 02:10 PM (t2cD9)

14 The trains will run on time.

Posted by: Benito Obama at August 18, 2013 02:11 PM (Dwehj)

15 Someday, I hope someone can explain to me in simple terms why the left is so obsessed with high speed rail

Posted by: NR Pax at August 18, 2013 02:12 PM (U+O64)

16 >>I thought we already had 'high speed rail', AKA airplanes. Nah. Airplanes can be sent to any airport where there is public demand for transportation to a given destination which may change over time. Trains are constrained by those track thingies. Anyone can see spending metric tons of money on trains is a better use of the public fisc.

Posted by: Aviator at August 18, 2013 02:13 PM (DI+ja)

17 Can you believe these guys? Wasting money on high speed rail when what we really need is flying cars.

Ahem.

http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=305933#c10927423

Posted by: Mojo Nixon at August 18, 2013 02:13 PM (kqqGm)

18 I think it was the Daily Mail that had a recent piece on British rail travel costing 3 times as much as airfare already. I'm sure hi speed rail will bring that discrepancy down.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 18, 2013 02:13 PM (ccXZP)

19 Someday, I hope someone can explain to me in simple terms why the left is so obsessed with high speed rail

Posted by: NR Pax at August 18, 2013 06:12 PM (U+O64)


unions



Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 02:14 PM (8lmkt)

20 Call me, Davie.

Posted by: Elon Musk at August 18, 2013 02:14 PM (8JoF4)

21 My sons college just raised the mandatory meal card to 1700 dollars.  Him and 3 others rented a house instead.  A lot of other kids are moving out too.  At some point it comes back to bite the libs in the butt.

Posted by: Big Ben at August 18, 2013 02:14 PM (I5Htn)

22 Airplanes are not the answer. We'd be spending a fortune spraying vinegar into the air.

Posted by: Low Information Voter at August 18, 2013 02:14 PM (Dwehj)

23 We just got a light rail line here in Norfolk a while back. All whopping 7 miles of it from downtown to city border. It Doesn't go to the local major school (ODU), it doesn't go to the Navy base. Was WAY over schedule, budget, etc. it wasn't wanted by taxpayers, but of course we were ignored. And now that the federal tax dollars to support it have dried up, guess who gets to subsidize it? Exactly, homeowners. But the couldn't latest push for a real estate tax rare hike was "for the children" -read, we need to build new schools. Fuckin' thieves make me sick.

Posted by: shredded chi at August 18, 2013 02:15 PM (hhWz5)

24 The ridiculous part about this rail fiasco is that we already have a fantastic rail system.

For freight, which is the best use by far for rail.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 02:15 PM (gqgiP)

25 Someday, I hope someone can explain to me in simple terms why the left is so obsessed with high speed rail


Posted by: NR Pax at August 18, 2013 06:12 PM (U+O64)

unions

Eliminate a method of freedom (the automobile) and you further the elimination of freedom.

Posted by: Mojo Nixon at August 18, 2013 02:16 PM (kqqGm)

26 $100 billion to link London and Birmingham by 2026, according to the article. What to do in the meantime? Freaking drive! They're only two hours apart.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2013 02:16 PM (FcR7P)

27 When I lived in Seattle with that first Dead Wife of mine the public transit was actually good- 50 cents & you could ride all over King county. You had to be able to read a schedule- yeah, basic literacy. But it was decent. It also was bus, trolley, & ferry based- not Hi! Speed! Rail!

Posted by: backhoe at August 18, 2013 02:17 PM (ULH4o)

28 15 Someday, I hope someone can explain to me in simple terms why the left is so obsessed with high speed rail

The train is simple enough to be understood and controlled by leftists. It goes from one place to another. No complicated route maps like with airplanes. It is almost always government-controlled. It is in one place, inflexible, unable to move away from Government authority, and no one else can build parallel tracks and compete with it. It is a control freak's wet dream. And, yes, I agree with Peaches, unions.

Posted by: Splunge at August 18, 2013 02:17 PM (bKA83)

29 You had to be able to read a schedule

That sounds racist, to me.

Posted by: Low Information Voter at August 18, 2013 02:18 PM (Dwehj)

30 unions

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 06:14 PM (8lmkt)

Not fair.

You are ignoring the left's fondness for telling the rest of us how to spend our money and how to run our lives.

Yes, they buy votes, but that's only half their scuminess.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 02:18 PM (gqgiP)

31

Posted by: shredded chi at August 18, 2013 06:15 PM (hhWz5)

 

That's nothing.

When the STL light rail went over budget, they sued the contractors (who had fucked some of it up.)

They got a settlement offer and TURNED IT DOWN, resulting in a huge trial, which they lost and had to pay attorney's fees to the winner.

Yep. So not only were we over budget, they saddled us with unneeded legal fees.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 18, 2013 02:18 PM (GaqMa)

32 President Obama.....We are all excited that you are finally coming back from vacation to help us common people. We missed and cannot wait for what is next on your legislative agenda. Welcome back sir !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Laquisha LargeAss' at August 18, 2013 02:18 PM (3Z1wn)

33 Trains are controlled, defined, orderly, they do what they're told and nothing else, predictable, and make people do things together whether they want to or not. Of *course* the left loves them. They're a bottleneck to transportation, and there's nothing the left loves more than squeezing people into a bottleneck. They're also a huge opportunity for graft, corruption, taxation, public spending, etc. It's like a leftist Candyland.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 18, 2013 02:20 PM (qyfb5)

34

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 06:15 PM (gqgiP)

 

"Norfolk Southern, what's your function!"

"Helping this big country move its stuff on time."

 

(Why did they have to take the catchiest of the school house rock songs and turn it into an ad I see all the time!)

Posted by: tsrblke at August 18, 2013 02:20 PM (GaqMa)

35 Yay!!1! Choo-choo trainz!!1!

Posted by: Little Joey Biden at August 18, 2013 02:20 PM (Vk2pI)

36 Here is the green problem they don't tell you. Air resistance, airplanes fly high to reduce it. Make a tube and pump out the air. Yes that stupid idea was floated too. Anyway high speed trains loose efficiency with speed. Yeah, their fuel mileage goes way down. Enjoy the lies.

Posted by: bob from table9 at August 18, 2013 02:20 PM (H7qrs)

37 29 You had to be able to read a schedule That sounds racist, to me. Posted by: Low Information Voter It is! I denounce mah'sef! RAAACIST! ( HT to the little gay boyz at Hillbuzz for coining the triple-A spelling.... )

Posted by: backhoe at August 18, 2013 02:21 PM (ULH4o)

38 Monorail!  Yeah, that's the ticket!

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 18, 2013 02:21 PM (VlXYw)

39 True Fact : High Speed Salmon Trains will pay for themselves in under 100 years. 

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2013 02:21 PM (0XHMd)

40 A little mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQF8CILMt8c

Posted by: The Ungreatful Living at August 18, 2013 02:21 PM (Vk2pI)

41 I really couldn't give two shits why it costs so much. If the TSA does for the rail travel experience what is has done to the air travel experience, it won't matter how much it costs because people will be reluctant to use it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 18, 2013 02:21 PM (ELs9k)

42 Why do they always want the trains to be high speed but they want the highway speeds lowered?

Posted by: Big Ben at August 18, 2013 02:22 PM (I5Htn)

43
For freight, which is the best use by far for rail.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 06:15 PM (gqgiP)

 

 

You forgot  the Ancient Hobo Migration Routes.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2013 02:23 PM (0XHMd)

44 Anyway high speed trains loose efficiency with speed. Yeah, their fuel mileage goes way down. Drag increases as the cube (!!!) of velocity so all you have to do is keep your speed down to get nice, green mileage. Oops.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2013 02:23 PM (FcR7P)

45 freedom ain't free . . . and, yeah, it's a cookbook

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 02:24 PM (8lmkt)

46 Okay, it's about 120 miles by road, and 100 miles by air.
Let's be generous and assume £50,000,000,000, which is about $75 billion.

For 120 miles. That is $625,000,000/mile.

Please, someone explain this. I cannot wrap my head around a boondoggle of this magnitude.

This is positively Californian in its stupidity.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 02:24 PM (gqgiP)

47 42 Why do they always want the trains to be high speed but they want the highway speeds lowered?
Posted by: Big Ben at August 18, 2013 06:22 PM (I5Htn)
Because the trains are driven by the collective whereas the cars are driven by individuals.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 18, 2013 02:25 PM (YgTB4)

48 The left like trains for the same reasons the German liked trains.

Mass people movers along closed pre-determined routes.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 18, 2013 02:25 PM (hmUex)

49 Whenever I hear a government program referred to as a scheme , both my wallet and sphincter snap shut , not necessarily in that order .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at August 18, 2013 02:26 PM (0iJzo)

50 You know who travels in style? Mercurial NY Knicks guard JR Smith. Apparently he's doing his summer club-hopping in a Gurkha F5 armored vehicle.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 18, 2013 02:27 PM (ZshNr)

51

Anyway high speed trains loose efficiency with speed. Yeah, their fuel mileage goes way down. 

 

 

Pretty sure if you inflate your tires properly, you'll getter better mileage.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at August 18, 2013 02:27 PM (0XHMd)

52 Absolutely no one wants a 200 mph train ripping through their city, so they have to slow down, to keep the chillins safe. High speed trains are so bankrupt in so many ways.

Posted by: bob from table9 at August 18, 2013 02:27 PM (H7qrs)

53 In college, it took an hour to take the bus from home to campus. Driving by car, it took 10, maybe 15 minutes.

The only reason why the bus was cheaper is because they folded it into our student fees.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster
----------------------------

Locally, what takes me 15 minutes by car, takes an hour (and $1.00) by bus. Moreover, the bus system is heavily subsidized, it doesn't come close to collecting what it costs.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 18, 2013 02:27 PM (aDwsi)

54 Meanwhile, First Dog Bo gets his own plane.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 18, 2013 02:28 PM (VlXYw)

55 Posted by: Lincolntf at August 18, 2013 06:27 PM (ZshNr)

Is he clubbing in Detroit?

[they are exceedingly cool looking however]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 02:30 PM (gqgiP)

56 So what NYC African-American neighbourhood will that British dick be living in? He will be living in an African-American neighbourhood, won't he???

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at August 18, 2013 02:31 PM (4qnX5)

57 *wanders in nomming on sammiches*

So hi-speed rail has a high price tag.  Colour me shocked.

Fight the collectivist, drive your car.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 02:31 PM (kENvx)

58 NYC. Probably bring it on road trips to Motown.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 18, 2013 02:32 PM (ZshNr)

59 Meanwhile, First Dog Bo gets his own plane.

wonderful, now I am envious of a fuckin' dog . . .  sigh.

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 02:33 PM (8lmkt)

60 Gurkha F5 armored vehicle.

***

They could use some of them in Chicago. 

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 18, 2013 02:34 PM (VlXYw)

61 This is a scam.

Posted by: Shelbyville at August 18, 2013 02:34 PM (lq3Ak)

62 HI Anna, powerball is at 70 mil. you could buy enough high speed track to make the end of your driveway.

Posted by: bob from table9 at August 18, 2013 02:34 PM (H7qrs)

63 Just pray that Obama doesn't see the article about ekranoplans.  He'll be trying to send them over the Rockies.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2013 02:35 PM (6TB1Z)

64 The Gurkha was the missing piece in our Buy Detroit plan. Who's back in? 450K.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 18, 2013 02:35 PM (ZshNr)

65

The only time we take a train anywhere is to the hockey game. It runs between downtown Fort Worth and American Airlines Center.

 

I will admit, I don't mind it at all. There is the occasional urban camper, or gang banger to deal with, but for the most part, its pretty tame. But getting anywhere other than where the train stops would suck.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 18, 2013 02:35 PM (zEeUf)

66 wanders in nomming on sammiches*

wait, you got sammiches???  you taunty thang, you . . .

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 02:35 PM (8lmkt)

67 I know this is totally off-topic, but I was reading the gun thread and read about the phosphate ban for dishwasher detergent.  I knew about it and have been contemplating adding a little pure TSP to my detergent. Can any of you science types tell me if I should and, if so, how much?

Posted by: Grandma Mimi at August 18, 2013 02:37 PM (u5LFV)

68 Peaches, Dad's birthday was this weekend.  Mom set out a giant spread.  Then after we bid everyone adieu, she realised she had left in the other fridge a whole party tray of those small sammiches.  So guess who got gifted with them.  Me. Evil things.  Nom on a couple and quickly forget had eaten so another couple vanish..  Evil I tell you. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 02:38 PM (kENvx)

69

I have an idea.  Let's outlaw cars, and trains, and suburbs and country living.  Move everybody into extreme high rise apartment/self-contained cities, say 2 million stories high.  Then we can install  high-speed elevators to get people where they need to be, on time.  Cost overruns?  Pshaw! 

 

Genius?  I think so!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 18, 2013 02:38 PM (pxDth)

70 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 06:31 PM (kENvx)

Thanks for the info on the B24/B17.

Interesting that the specs, at least according to Wikipedia, are quite similar.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 02:38 PM (gqgiP)

71 "What they don't do is get people where they want to go on time. For that? You need cars...." Exactly. I've used Amtrack to get to and from Chicago from Michigan. When it works, it's nice avoiding the traffic and parking issues. But when anything goes wrong, it is very similar to the problems you have with airlines. Everything can get backed up for hours. And you are dealing with all these employee issues that I assume are related to union rules. Trains that have already been held up are held up further because they have so little flexibility in putting employees on trains. And the employees have a lot of down time, by that I mean they sit around and read newspapers for most of the trainride. The impression I have that there are very few jobs that are less demanding.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 18, 2013 02:40 PM (D/aIK)

72 No problem CBD.  As a side note the Yankee Air Museum is trying to save part of the Willow Run plant that produced about half of the B-24s.  Bad news Willow Run is close to Detroit and YAF has had one extension to raise the money. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 02:40 PM (kENvx)

73 Bob, I think we all have better things to spend such winnings on.  I am still eying that 16,000 acre island for sale in Chile for $12 million US. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 02:41 PM (kENvx)

74 Posted by: Grandma Mimi at August 18, 2013 06:37 PM (u5LFV)

I did it with powdered detergent. I used about 1/2 tsp per load. It works.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 02:41 PM (gqgiP)

75

My sons college just raised the mandatory meal card to 1700 dollars...


Posted by: Big Ben at August 18, 2013 06:14 PM (I5Htn)


*****

 

$1700 would buy a whole trainload of Ramen noodles!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 18, 2013 02:43 PM (pxDth)

76 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 06:38 PM (kENvx)

well, I gots to tell you, mine is Wednesday and if I got some little bitty super tasty sammich, I'd be pleased as punch!! 

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 02:43 PM (8lmkt)

77 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 06:40 PM (kENvx)

By the way, my father's 1st cousin was a B17 pilot in Europe. He flew 50 missions, and stayed in after the war. Retired a colonel. Still alive and kicking.

As I am sure you know, he was a bit busy 70 years ago yesterday.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 02:44 PM (gqgiP)

78 I can see you are getting serious about that island

Posted by: bob from table9 at August 18, 2013 02:44 PM (H7qrs)

79

They keep trying to install a "higher speed" rail line from STL to CHI.

I will never understand why.  Currently it takes only a bit longer than driving (and honestly, when you consider you're getting into downtown Chicago, it's probably not any longer.)

Plus you can't even go above 65 until you're in the boonies in IL anyway.

But, the money will be spent.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 18, 2013 02:45 PM (GaqMa)

80 I have an idea. Let's outlaw cars, and trains, and suburbs and country living. Move everybody into extreme high rise apartment/self-contained cities, say 2 million stories high. Then we can install high-speed elevators to get people where they need to be, on time. Cost overruns? Pshaw!

Genius? I think so!

I have determined that evil Republicans are preventing progress by stubbornly insisting on the rule of the "laws of physics".  I find this inconvenient, so I hereby declare them null and void. 

Posted by: The God King, Barackus the Magnificent, ruler of the Hamptons at August 18, 2013 02:45 PM (6TB1Z)

81 To go with comment 38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEZjzsnPhnw

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 18, 2013 02:45 PM (qM18f)

82 Posted by: Grandma Mimi at August 18, 2013 06:37 PM (u5LFV)

You should google it, GM.  I have a dishwasher but I've never used it.  I do know, however, that the tsp is the trick.  Srsly, google that  . . .  Or, if you srsly don't know how, post back and I will find you a link. 

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 02:45 PM (8lmkt)

83 He flew the Regensburg mission or the Schweinfurt mission on 17 Aug 1943?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 02:45 PM (kENvx)

84 Hi! I badly need to contact the Gun Toting Liberal, who used to post comments on here. Can anybody help me? It's pretty important! Thanks

Posted by: Giulio Natali at August 18, 2013 02:45 PM (bXJpk)

85

"well, I gots to tell you, mine is Wednesday and if I got some little bitty super tasty sammich, I'd be pleased as punch!!"

 

Heh! How's it gonna be to turn 30?!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 18, 2013 02:46 PM (Lo5Rt)

86 Peaches, well Happy Birthday a bit early. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 02:46 PM (kENvx)

87 As I am sure you know, he was a bit busy 70 years ago yesterday.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 06:44 PM (gqgiP)


Is he, by chance, a single man???? 

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 02:46 PM (8lmkt)

88

I have determined that evil Republicans are preventing progress by stubbornly insisting on the rule of the "laws of physics". I find this inconvenient, so I hereby declare them null and void.


Posted by: The God King, Barackus the Magnificent, ruler of the Hamptons at August 18, 2013 06:45 PM (6TB1Z)


*****


Declaring them null and void?  Laws of physics? or evil Republicans? 

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 18, 2013 02:47 PM (pxDth)

89 If you want to meet people with a serious attention to history.  Plus sniffing too much glue, upcoming IPMS USA events.

http://www.ipmsusa.org/MemberServices/EventsCalendar/EventCalendarList2.asp

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 02:47 PM (kENvx)

90 Declaring them null and void? Laws of physics? or evil Republicans?

Choosing is for peasants. 

Posted by: The God King, Barackus the Magnificent, ruler of the Hamptons at August 18, 2013 02:48 PM (6TB1Z)

91 67 >> I knew about it and have been contemplating adding a little pure TSP to my detergent. Can any of you science types tell me if I should and, if so, how much?
 
Yes you should, Grandma Mimi, and a good starting point is about 1/2 tsp per dishwasher load. You might need to adjust up or down a bit depending on your water's hardness. You can get the pure stuff at Home Depot (well, at least you can in MS).

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 18, 2013 02:48 PM (ccXZP)

92

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 18, 2013 06:40 PM (D/aIK)

We had a guy expose himself on our train to Chicago, and the "Security" on Amtrak's plan was to hold him in the eating car (which they even did that poorly) not tell anyone why he was there (so my wife and I were sitting right behind him eating our breakfast) and then wait for the cops in Carlinville.

But not at the station, no we just stopped at a crossing and waited 20 minutes for them (Which considering we had already gone 20 minutes to get to that point is stupid.)

My only relief was..guy got offloaded in Carlinville, and I'm sure the police were less than hospitable towards him before they sent him packing back to Alton.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 18, 2013 02:48 PM (GaqMa)

93 dammit, you hear all the time about these fuckers drinking themselves to death and it sounds sooooo easy . . . I am here to tell you, uh, not so much. 

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 02:49 PM (8lmkt)

94 no we just stopped at a crossing and waited 20 minutes for them You could have just slowed down a little and booted him out the door. Or not slowed down.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2013 02:52 PM (FcR7P)

95 Grandma MImi- I took the horde's advice on the TSP for the dishwasher about a year ago. It works perfectly! I use about half a teaspoon per load, along with the normal amount of liquid detergent. I love having clean dishes again. Had a little trouble finding it in my local Home Depot, until I found it near the paint thinner. I was looking near the household cleaning supplies.

Posted by: FordCityKathy at August 18, 2013 02:52 PM (moC+6)

96 Purp,

Full Weiner?

Pics or it didn't happen....

heh.

Hey anyone remember an old poster who used to go by "I work for Dick Jones, Dick Jones here or am I slipping ever further into midheimers?

Posted by: miguel ambivalence@sven10077 at August 18, 2013 02:53 PM (A4hKL)

97 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 06:45 PM (kENvx)

Schweinfurt.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 02:54 PM (gqgiP)

98

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2013 06:52 PM (FcR7P)

 

At the very fucking least they should have closed the dining car. I mean for pete's sake there were kids on that train.

If anything had happened to them, I'd have felt inclined to tie the security guy to the perv and throw them both out the door.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 18, 2013 02:54 PM (GaqMa)

99 Had a little trouble finding it in my local Home Depot, until I found it near the paint thinner. I was looking near the household cleaning supplies. TSP is used for painting prep. You wash the walls with it.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2013 02:54 PM (FcR7P)

100 I did it with powdered detergent. I used about 1/2 tsp per load. It works.Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 06:41 PM (gqgiP)

Also Gnu breed and Peaches

Thanks loads (pun intended).  I was just worried about my new dishwasher.


Posted by: Grandma Mimi at August 18, 2013 02:55 PM (u5LFV)

101 5 more minutes till NFL on Fox . . . reason to live, even if it is the Dolts at the Gints.  (go Gints)

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 02:56 PM (8lmkt)

102 15 Perhaps because people in cars are independent, autonomous. They go where they want, when they want. Train passengers are a herd. Lefties love herds v

Posted by: Northernlurker at August 18, 2013 02:57 PM (ao/bv)

103 93 Peaches,

Ma'am in honor of the attempt I give you "Mike" from "breaking Bad" on 1/2 measures...

http://youtu.be/n3u-6UFLubI

I'd prefer you not kill yourself drinking...mom gave in to cancer from smoking probably an additional contributing factor was her drinking...

56 years old almost to the day...

I'm old and I am not that aged.

Posted by: miguel ambivalence@sven10077 at August 18, 2013 02:58 PM (A4hKL)

104 They should have parachutes on areoplanes for persons of expositional natures ...

Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 02:58 PM (/yH2j)

105

Union Pacific Railroad in the US purchased Southern Pacific Railroad for $1.2 Billion, and got 11,000 miles of  track and all of their rolling stock.

I take it that this government organization is not getting anywhere near 104 Southern Pacifics, or  1,144,000 miles of track and rolling stock?

Posted by: Kristophr at August 18, 2013 02:59 PM (c6N69)

106 for high speed rails, maybe a catapult ...

Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 02:59 PM (/yH2j)

107 Posted by: miguel ambivalence@sven10077 at August 18, 2013 06:58 PM (A4hKL)

Oh, sweetie, that is so sad, I'm sorry for your loss.  I drink like a fish and smoke like a chimney.  Oddly healthy, cept for that one knee.  62 on Wed.  oy vey!!!

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 02:59 PM (8lmkt)

108 88 Seamus Muldoon,

er six of uh one...half a third of a baker's dozen of the other...

//Obamacles I

Posted by: miguel ambivalence@sven10077 at August 18, 2013 03:00 PM (A4hKL)

109 "That is $625,000,000/mile."

A screaming bargain!

Out here in Pelosiville, a.k.a. Scum Scamfrisco, the new subway extension they're putting in is officially budgeted to cost ONE BILLION DOLLARS PER MILE.

The first round of study consultants for the project looked at the cost, and looked at the projected ridership, and concluded that it would be cheaper to give every patron their own ride in their own private limousine over the 1.7 mile distance.

The local Democratic/union/rent seeker/race hustler machine didn't like that answer, so they commissioned new studies which proved, Serious You Guys, that the subway would be a smashing financial success and the biggest public bargain since the purchase of Manhattan from the natives.

Of course, the thing is already behind schedule and already over budget. Extrapolating from other SF Bay Area public works fiascoes, it will probably come in closer to $1.5B/mile, the most expensive subterranean construction in all of American history, by far costlier per distance than even the Boston Big Dig.

And you want to know what the best part is? THE REST OF YOU ARE PAYING FOR THIS.

Yep. It's pretty much all federal money.

I said that when the GOP took back the House in 2010, the first order of business had to be to drive a stake through the heart of this thing. They couldn't be arsed to try. Because if they killed Pelosi's pork barbecue, she might spotlight, say, the matching obscene pork going to Hal Rogers's district, and that just wouldn't be good.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 18, 2013 03:01 PM (gqT4g)

110 purchased Southern Pacific Railroad for $1.2
Billion, and got 11,000 miles of track and all of their rolling stock.

Sounds like it was bought near/below scrap value..

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 18, 2013 03:02 PM (vZOX+)

111 68 years ago yesterday, my father was an 18-year old on Guam celebrating his head off because he wasn't going to die. It seem that a lot of 'rons and 'ronettes had fathers or grandfathers on Guam in 1945. Maybe there was some sort of radiation leak that explains how we turned out.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit, but you can call me Michael at August 18, 2013 03:02 PM (7cS5n)

112 And you want to know what the best part is? THE REST OF YOU ARE PAYING FOR THIS.


so true . . . suck it, America . . .

Posted by: Califuckinfornia at August 18, 2013 03:02 PM (8lmkt)

113 107 Peaches,

Thanks for the thought she's been gone since '01 she died two weeks after the towers fell, 1 week shy of her 56th birthday...

I'm nopt a preacher, life is precious and there are far too few decent people.

I consider you to be one, inasmuch as we "know" each other.

If my body is in fact a temple I am a poor renter myself as well.

Posted by: miguel ambivalence@sven10077 at August 18, 2013 03:02 PM (A4hKL)

114 Some more mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-W6k_jpcuk

Posted by: The Barack Öbama Cult at August 18, 2013 03:03 PM (Vk2pI)

115 Michael, happy birthday!!!   Leo's rule!!!! (can't be said often, or loud, enough) 

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 03:03 PM (8lmkt)

116 Purp: even at 10 times that, it was a bargain compared to what these retards are spending on "light" rail.

Posted by: Kristophr at August 18, 2013 03:03 PM (c6N69)

117 109 Torquewrench,

What must never be allowed to happen is genuine reform...and sadly you are likely correct...

what kind of fucking retard builds subterrainian tunnels in fault land?

Democrat fucking retards SIR!

Posted by: miguel ambivalence@sven10077 at August 18, 2013 03:04 PM (A4hKL)

118 Peaches - A very merry unbirthday! until Wed ...

Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 03:04 PM (/yH2j)

119 The avocado tree in my back yard has a bunch of nice 4" diameter orbs on it now. 

The best avocados are free avocados

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 18, 2013 03:05 PM (vZOX+)

120 {{{{{{sven}}}}}}  I lost the big guy on 2 months before 9/11.  when I woke up and watched that second tower going down, I was all, fuck it . . . was down to about 1 parlie a day and I didn't see any reason to not smoke.  still don't, truth be told. 

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 03:05 PM (8lmkt)

121 Ouch.  Schweinfurt was the b*ll buster with 60 aircraft lost.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 03:05 PM (kENvx)

122   If my body is in fact a temple I am a poor renter myself as well. 
Posted by: miguel ambivalence@sven10077 at August 18, 2013 07:02 PM (A4hKL)

Why are you renting a temple?  = PP

Never too late to take care of it.   

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 18, 2013 03:06 PM (GoMJD)

123 "I took the horde's advice on the TSP for the dishwasher about a year ago. It works perfectly! ... Had a little trouble finding it in my local Home Depot, until I found it near the paint thinner."

Exercise caution when shopping for TSP.

Due to ecoholic pressures, some of the stuff that prominently says "TSP!!!" on the label now actually also says "phosphate free" in the small print on the back of the box.

I suspect that phosphate-free TSP is not going to be good for the typical modern dishwasher.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 18, 2013 03:06 PM (gqT4g)

124 *Makes mental note to invest in birthday bacon and beer for Peaches*

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 03:06 PM (K+I6z)

125 I don't think this is how Peaches plans to celebrate her birthday...
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/selection-du-weekend-49-38.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 03:07 PM (kENvx)

126
Councils along the route will push for regeneration grants to provide new shops and other amenities around the new stations.

Local authorities in towns cities bypassed by the new line will “campaign vigorously” for similar funding to compensate them for losing out.




Yep.

Government, Ladies and Gents.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2013 03:07 PM (kdS6q)

127 Seriously ... give the existing railroads a federal contract to run scheduled passenger service on existing track.

Set harsh minimum on-time requirements, and let them bid for it. Then pay the low bidder.

Then shut down Amtrack.

I'll bet we could have this same service on existing heavy rail for a tiny fraction of the interest payment for the money these lunatics want to spend on government light rail.

Posted by: Kristophr at August 18, 2013 03:07 PM (c6N69)

128   Due to ecoholic pressures, some of the stuff that prominently says "TSP!!!" on the label now actually also says "phosphate free" in the small print on the back of the box.


I thought TSP tips were for buying boxes of the stuff direct from Home Depot and the like.  

Are there actual boxes of "TSP" at those stores that are "phosphate free"? 

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 18, 2013 03:07 PM (GoMJD)

129 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 07:07 PM (kENvx)

u r evil . . . and, no, I will probably just go to work and be irked.  after a while, you've just had too many of the fuckin' things and it's no big.  still, i will be on teh ONT requiring obeisance and loving it!!

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 03:09 PM (8lmkt)

130 So, "TSP" is now an officially registered ingredient for completely non-tri-sodium phosphate detergent?

How unsurprising.

Posted by: Kristophr at August 18, 2013 03:10 PM (c6N69)

131 funny - 3D printing fail pics

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23727229

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 18, 2013 03:11 PM (vZOX+)

132 "Are there actual boxes of "TSP" at those stores that are 'phosphate free'? "

I have in fact seen this with my own eyes at several different Home Cheapoes in Commiefornia.  And yes, the box says "TSP" in a big prominent font, while discreetly whispering the lack of phosphate in small type elsewhere on the label.

I don't know in which other stores and jurisdictions this ersatz crap may have shown up.

I found genuine TSP with phosphate at an Orchard Supply, but it was very dusty old back of the shelf stock, so who knows what they have restocked with since.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 18, 2013 03:12 PM (gqT4g)

133 Speaking of B-17s et al., I understand that Hanks and Spielberg are doing an HBO miniseries based upon Masters of the Air by Donald Miller.  I read the book a while ago and I thought it was very good.  It is about the Eighth Air Force in WWII.  It pulled no punches on the horror in the air or under the bombs.  Biggest surprise:  Switzerland was essentially pro-Nazi and brutal to our guys who were interned there.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 18, 2013 03:12 PM (VlXYw)

134 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 07:05 PM (kENvx)

He was a very good pilot, and brought his crew back safely.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 03:12 PM (gqgiP)

135 I take it that this government organization is not getting anywhere near 104 Southern Pacifics, or 1,144,000 miles of track and rolling stock? We make up the difference with efficiency!

Posted by: ScamTrak at August 18, 2013 03:16 PM (FcR7P)

136 Biggest surprise: Switzerland was essentially pro-Nazi and brutal to our guys who were interned there.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 18, 2013 07:12 PM (VlXYw)
Not surprising at all. Look how they treated Oprah.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 18, 2013 03:17 PM (YgTB4)

137 Conservative Monster,

All kidding aside I figure the body less important than the soul...

I dunno I always figured this flesh was transitory, a temporary test whilst navigating the mortal coil.

I used to exercise and stay tough, it is hard to stay motivated as I age and hate more and more of my reality...

I am terrified I am becoming a match or a flare and my rage and hate is burning me up inside and apathy without....

were it in my power I'd take you all to Atlantis.

Posted by: miguel ambivalence@sven10077 at August 18, 2013 03:17 PM (A4hKL)

138 They'll save enough money from the NHS to pay for the high speed rail.

Posted by: U.K. Death Panel at August 18, 2013 03:18 PM (mETGQ)

139 Not surprising at all. Look how they treated Oprah.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 18, 2013 07:17 PM (YgTB4)

And we have a thread winner!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 03:19 PM (gqgiP)

140 "We had a guy expose himself on our train to Chicago, and the "Security" on Amtrak's plan was to hold him in the eating car " Eeeew! Hope they made him pull his pants up.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 18, 2013 03:19 PM (D/aIK)

141

Not surprising at all. Look how they treated Oprah.


Piss on Oprah! She's a fucking monster!

Posted by: puddleglum at August 18, 2013 03:20 PM (QeoFE)

142 On one hand, I'm flabbergasted that they can tolerate such false advertising, on the flip side, it's unsurprising that this sort of shenanigan is happening under our ecofascism. 


I suspect that it'd be a good idea to discontinue web-browsing and commentating during a thunderstorm.   Later folks.  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 18, 2013 03:21 PM (GoMJD)

143 anybody wanna start some shit?  cause I am still a little irked about that douchenoz of a neighbor who woke me up at 6:30 this morning (may he roast on a spit in hell).

Posted by: Peaches, drunk and nasty at August 18, 2013 03:21 PM (8lmkt)

144 Posted by: Peaches, drunk and nasty at August 18, 2013 07:21 PM (8lmkt)

Power tools...or drunken braying?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 03:22 PM (gqgiP)

145 Power tools...or drunken braying?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 07:22 PM (gqgiP)


ruger .357 . . . let's not go there, you're not on my list.  you watchin' the game?  i need somebody to talk football with, keep my fuckin head from exploding

Posted by: Peaches, drunk and nasty at August 18, 2013 03:23 PM (8lmkt)

146 anybody wanna start some shit? It's 108 outside ... I'm only good for about 10 minutes worth of shit before I have to sit in front of the fan for 20 ...

Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 03:23 PM (/yH2j)

147 anybody wanna start some shit? Posted by: Peaches, drunk and nasty --------------------------------------- [[[[[[[{{{{{{shudders}}}}}}]]]]]]] Wo-wo-wo-wo-would you li-li-li-like ano-ano-ano-another b-b-b-b-b-beer?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at August 18, 2013 03:24 PM (4Mv1T)

148 TSP = total sucker punch. 

I believe the same company makes anhydrous water.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2013 03:24 PM (6TB1Z)

149 Posted by: miguel ambivalence@sven10077 at August 18, 2013 07:17 PM (A4hKL)

Was more just poking fun at the concept of a rented temple.    

Bible study covered that chapter recently; it's more about the spiritual aspect (not doing unholy things with your body) than physically keeping it in shape.   (though those are certainly good things to do for it) 

As Jesus says, it's not what goes into a man's mouth that makes him unclean, but what overflows from his heart and comes out of the mouth.   

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 18, 2013 03:24 PM (GoMJD)

150 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hayduke_%28author%29

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 18, 2013 03:25 PM (vZOX+)

151 i need somebody to talk football with, keep my fuckin head from exploding Posted by: Peaches, drunk and nasty at August 18, 2013 07:23 PM (8lmkt) Vendette at your service, Madam.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 03:27 PM (K+I6z)

152 It's 108 outside ... I'm only good for about 10 minutes worth of shit before I have to sit in front of the fan for 20 ...

Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 07:23 PM (/yH2j)


Adriane, I'm sorry for your discomfort (really, I am, especially if the humidity is high), but here in El Lay, it's been like the fuckin' arctic tundra all summer.  I would actually bask in a day of 108 (low humidity, of course).  Where you at, girl, Arizona?

Posted by: Peaches, drunk and nasty at August 18, 2013 03:27 PM (8lmkt)

153 Posted by: Peaches, drunk and nasty at August 18, 2013 07:23 PM (8lmkt)

Football?

Yankees-Red Sox are on in 30 minutes!

I can't think of football until December, and even then....meh.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 03:28 PM (gqgiP)

154 Football? Yankees-Red Sox are on in 30 minutes! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 07:28 PM (gqgiP) Let's listen to A-Rod get booed again!

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 03:29 PM (K+I6z)

155 Yankees-Red Sox are on in 30 minutes!

I can't think of football until December, and even then....meh.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 07:28 PM (gqgiP)


totally understandable, CBD . . .   loser . . .

Posted by: Peaches, drunk and nasty at August 18, 2013 03:29 PM (8lmkt)

156 149 Conservative Monster,

Heh my riposte while serious was part jest as well.

The thing is I have never felt "owner of my body"...I can't leave it to my loved ones...the soul and our works are what make us "us" IMHO...

anyhow I plan to exercise more this year, and if able get back towards fighting shape if not in fighting shape.

Posted by: miguel ambivalence@sven10077 at August 18, 2013 03:30 PM (A4hKL)

157 Sitting in the sun in Longview, AB, (home of Ian Tyson) listening to some really good music.

Posted by: Northernlurker at August 18, 2013 03:30 PM (ao/bv)

158 Posted by: Peaches, drunk and nasty at August 18, 2013 07:27 PM (8lmkt)

California always felt colder than it actually was. The heat was no problem, but the winter could be more unpleasant than the East coast's version.

Weird.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 03:30 PM (gqgiP)

159 Fake TSP, huh? Go figure. Fine, then, look for trisodium phosphate.
 
Accept no substitutes.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 18, 2013 03:30 PM (ccXZP)

160 Sitting in the sun in Longview, AB, (home of Ian Tyson) listening to some really good music. Posted by: Northernlurker at August 18, 2013 07:30 PM (ao/bv) Greetings, fellow Albertan!

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 03:31 PM (K+I6z)

161

So much for my second career   in computer repair. I just spent nearly three hours replacing the cooling fan in B'Gal's  laptop.

 

The laptop is   now dead.  Of course, it  was on its last legs anyway, seeing as how we  bought it in '05  and is running XP.

 

Wonderful. Just fucking wonderful.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 18, 2013 03:31 PM (0HooB)

162 loser . . .

Posted by: Peaches, drunk and nasty at August 18, 2013 07:29 PM (8lmkt)

Especially this year.

Nobody picked up my contract on ARod.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 03:31 PM (gqgiP)

163 NothernLurker, Vendette,

Hey if you prairie roses ever need good cheap landscaping ese and senora give me a holler!

//Sven Illegal Immigrant 2018 from South of the Border.

Posted by: miguel ambivalence@sven10077 at August 18, 2013 03:33 PM (A4hKL)

164 California always felt colder than it actually was. The heat was no problem, but the winter could be more unpleasant than the East coast's version.

Weird.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 07:30 PM (gqgiP)


it's pretty much always been teh suck . . . a complete fuckin' lie.  what a surprise, eh??

Posted by: Peaches, drunk and nasty at August 18, 2013 03:33 PM (8lmkt)

165 Let's Go Yankees!

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2013 03:33 PM (0XHMd)

166 Thank goodness that gaming thread is over.  I dont recognize 80% of the people there.

Anyway, did anyone see the Fox News Watch today?  Alan Colmes actually made the comment about George W getting the stint, "even the Washington Post had an article asking if the procedure was necessary".

I thought, when was it a question on whether a ex-president got a procedure, that by today standards is usually a out-patient procedure to maybe an overnight visit a question in the MSM?

These guys are sick in their hatred.

Posted by: Taiwan_Joe at August 18, 2013 03:33 PM (aKhUT)

167 I found genuine TSP with phosphate at an Orchard Supply, but it was very dusty old back of the shelf stock, so who knows what they have restocked with since.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 18, 2013 07:12 PM (gqT4g)


Do you remember the brand name?  I found Savogran at OHS which has elemental phosphorus content of 6.1% in the form of phosphates.  Is this real?

Posted by: Grandma Mimi at August 18, 2013 03:34 PM (u5LFV)

168 >> So much for my second career in computer repair. I just spent nearly three hours replacing the cooling fan in B'Gal's laptop.
 
That's a tough job to do on (some) laptops. You should probably take it back apart and check all your ribbon connectors. It's easy to not get them set right.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 18, 2013 03:35 PM (ccXZP)

169 161 BackwardsBoy,

Don't sell yourself short Scotty was a fictional character not a baseline for repair work...

Laptops are always dicier anyway...

best of luck w/the repair or if possible build her a breadbox from an A series APU and use the Hotel's flatscreens for a monitor on business.

Laptops are designed to die there is WAY too much heat in them thar innards IMHO.

Posted by: miguel ambivalence@sven10077 at August 18, 2013 03:35 PM (A4hKL)

170 Oh, and Peaches, I'll help you watch the Giants/Colts game.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 18, 2013 03:35 PM (0HooB)

171 Greetings Vendette

Posted by: Northernlurker at August 18, 2013 03:36 PM (ao/bv)

172 166 Taiwan Joe,

Blow for blow, fire for fire....

they want to hate W...I aim to hate Ogabe.

Posted by: miguel ambivalence@sven10077 at August 18, 2013 03:36 PM (A4hKL)

173 what a surprise, eh??

Posted by: Peaches, drunk and nasty at August 18, 2013 07:33 PM (8lmkt)

Are you talking people or weather?

Because it's true of both!

A Manhattan awaits me.

Cheers.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2013 03:37 PM (gqgiP)

174 AZ. 14% humidity. Was 113 yesterday. Rained in the evening, so a little cooler today though a bit muggy... Usually this hot in July ... oh well ...

Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 03:38 PM (/yH2j)

175

It appears as thought the   hard drive isn't  connected. It's just a bay with one screw to hold it in. I took it out and reinserted it, still nothing.

 

It's an old Toshiba with the little flashing lights that show when the HD  is working. Everything's clean on the inside. No lights at  all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 18, 2013 03:38 PM (0HooB)

176 Thanks, BackwardsBoy!!!  The Gints are ahead by a field goal . . . it's not Pats-quality play, but I'll watch. 

OOPS!!! 

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 03:39 PM (8lmkt)

177 Wow, what a comedy of errors to lead to a Colts TD.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 03:39 PM (K+I6z)

178 That's going to be on highlight reels tonight.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 03:39 PM (K+I6z)

179 Oh, and one other thing y'all:  please don't say anything about the race today, we recorded it but haven't watched  it yet.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 18, 2013 03:41 PM (0HooB)

180 Wow, what a comedy of errors to lead to a Colts TD.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 07:39 PM (K+I6z)


I know, right? 

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 03:41 PM (8lmkt)

181 >> I found Savogran at OHS which has elemental phosphorus content of 6.1% in the form of phosphates. Is this real?
 
Pure TSP would have an elemental P content of nearly 19% by weight.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 18, 2013 03:42 PM (ccXZP)

182 I know, right? Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 07:41 PM (8lmkt) Imagine if that was the Super Bowl-winning TD.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 03:42 PM (K+I6z)

183 32 I doubt Laquisha is that well spoken but it doesn't matter. Her Messiah knows what she wants.

Posted by: Tuna at August 18, 2013 03:42 PM (M/TDA)

184

Anybody watch the Pats game? Poor old  Tim Tebow  didn't do too well. -1 passing yards? At least he ran well.

 

It may take him a while to fit in   that offense up there. But I did like them just using him as a running back from center. When he was down here in   kollidge, you did not want  to try to tackle  him when he was at  full speed: he'd run  right through your ass.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 18, 2013 03:44 PM (0HooB)

185 Imagine if that was the Super Bowl-winning TD.

My imagination is not that fertile . . . 

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 03:44 PM (8lmkt)

186 My imagination is not that fertile . . . Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 07:44 PM (8lmkt) In other respects it is.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 03:44 PM (K+I6z)

187 Interception   Colts!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 18, 2013 03:45 PM (0HooB)

188 Anybody watch the Pats game? Poor old Tim Tebow

he sucked donkey bawls . . . but we won, that is really all I care about, but can't they find another position for him?  maybe waterboy? 

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 03:46 PM (8lmkt)

189 They probably add some inert ingredients as anti-caking agents and to dilute it a bit.  Straight up TSP is fairly alkaline.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 18, 2013 03:50 PM (vZOX+)

190

Well, I heard  Tebow was going to be the tight end after Hernandez, then there was that whole  unfortunate thingy with the murder. Thought he'd start at that position.   Apparently not now.

 

As much as I like the boy  off   the field,  I rather doubt he's  going to find a home in the pros.  If J'ville  had had any sense, they'd  signed him. Homeboy who could put butts in seats, which   they sorely need.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 18, 2013 03:50 PM (0HooB)

191 Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 18, 2013 07:50 PM (0HooB)

fuckin' Belichick, man, who knows what he's got in his head?  I just wear the shirt and stay turgid, it's all a body can do . . .

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 03:52 PM (8lmkt)

192 Tim Tebow. Such a nice young man. What about a career in coaching?

Posted by: Tuna at August 18, 2013 03:52 PM (M/TDA)

193 I killed the thread.

Posted by: Tuna at August 18, 2013 03:55 PM (M/TDA)

194 192 Tim Tebow. Such a nice young man. What about a career in coaching?

Posted by: Tuna at August 18, 2013 07:52 PM (M/TDA)


I say, let's trade him to Tammy for an update in teh comments.  She would sooooooo go for that . . . not to mention that it would be ol' Timmy's luckiest day on the planet so far. 

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 03:55 PM (8lmkt)

195

 They just showed a commercial for a kung-fu movie from Martin Scorsese (sp?).  WTF?

 

I've seen his concert  films, but I thought marital arts were a bit outside his area.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 18, 2013 03:56 PM (0HooB)

196 Holes aren't usually presented as a positive attribute in listings, yet without one, Blue Hole Bay, a 180-acre Bahamanian property listed for $24 million, would be just like any other stunning white-sand beach available for private ownership. In this "remotest part of the Bahamas," as Bob Simon of "60 Minutes" described it in a segment Sunday night, "you'll have trouble finding it on any tourist map today."

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 18, 2013 03:56 PM (e8kgV)

197 194 Is Tammy ok? Haven't seen her around this parts for awhile.

Posted by: Tuna at August 18, 2013 03:56 PM (M/TDA)

198 wow, giants are kinda takin' it up the squeakhole here, eh? 

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 04:01 PM (8lmkt)

199 #109 - Wowser!

Posted by: Ed Anger at August 18, 2013 04:01 PM (tOkJB)

200 Yes, yes they are.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 18, 2013 04:03 PM (0HooB)

201 Nice catch on the IND TD.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 04:04 PM (K+I6z)

202 189 >> They probably add some inert ingredients as anti-caking agents and to dilute it a bit. Straight up TSP is fairly alkaline.
 
Yeah I looked up the Savogran product and it will work fine Mimi. The product contains TSP (dodecahydrate) at around 75% by weight and the rest is sodium carbonate.
 
One pound box is about $4 at Home Depot.
 

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 18, 2013 04:05 PM (ccXZP)

203 what happened to that Manning boy, they trade him or something?  cause, they were good once . . .

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 04:06 PM (8lmkt)

204 I've been putting off a clutch job on the TDI cuz I didn't have a transmission jack and trying to do that shit with a floor jack is the way of pain and disaster...but I found just the thing in Harbor Freight's catalog.

Sweet.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 18, 2013 04:06 PM (vZOX+)

205 Heh, speaking of, here he comes.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 18, 2013 04:07 PM (0HooB)

206 Manning is headed to the Leavenworth league...oh, different Manning.  My bad.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 18, 2013 04:07 PM (vZOX+)

207 205 Heh, speaking of, here he comes.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 18, 2013 08:07 PM (0HooB)


and, like magic, shit is workin' again . . .

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 04:08 PM (8lmkt)

208 195 I don't like marital arts films.  Too much fighting

Posted by: DAve at August 18, 2013 04:09 PM (OksBo)

209 and, like magic, shit is workin' again . . . Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 08:08 PM (8lmkt) Since he already has one pick tonight, the magic had better come back fast.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 04:09 PM (K+I6z)

210

Ahh, the many times I laid  on the ground with a manual transmission on my chest...

 

No pilot   shaft,  just somebody  to push in the clutch pedal.  Good times.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 18, 2013 04:10 PM (0HooB)

211 haha, Eli's coming . . .

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 04:10 PM (8lmkt)

212 210 Hahaha students pay me to fix my car

Posted by: DAve at August 18, 2013 04:11 PM (OksBo)

213 >> I've been putting off a clutch job on the TDI cuz I didn't have a transmission jack and trying to do that shit with a floor jack is the way of pain and disaster...
 
Did you check with AutoZone to see if they have a loaner tranny jack? They loan a variety of needed tools as long as you buy your parts from them.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 18, 2013 04:12 PM (ccXZP)

214 Former Top Muslim Brotherhood Leader: Egyptian Military Chief a Jooooo, Working To Implement Protocols of The Elders of ZionÂ… Obviously. Gamal Nassar: I was trying to figure out Al-SisiÂ’s origins. I wanted to know more about him. I was surprised to learn, from the Algerian Al-Watan newspaper, that Al-Sisi is of Jewish origin. His mother is called Mulaika Titani, and her brother was a member of the Jewish Haganah organization. Thus, we see that this man, by any standard, is implementing a Zionist plan to divide Egypt.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2013 04:15 PM (jE38p)

215 All those garage shows make things seem easy.  They have all the tools and equipment to do every job properly.  There should be a John Muir show - Auto Repair for Idiots.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 04:16 PM (kENvx)

216 And TCM just started showing The Great Race.  Cars, Natalie Woods, Jack Lemon, and  Tony Curtis.  buh bai!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 04:18 PM (kENvx)

217

Hahaha students pay me to fix my car

 

Another heh:  in tech skool back home in Alabama, they'd  get us guys from the machine shop class to go over to the automotive class  and do stuff. They sent me and another guy over there once  with a cutting torch to cut up a car body.

 

It was turned upside down and  they   had    neglected to remove the seats.  So I'm standing on the top of this thing  having a good old time with the torch when I  start   to   smell smoke...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 18, 2013 04:18 PM (0HooB)

218 204 ...a clutch job on the TDI .... ***** Water Pump replacement on 1980 Ford Fiesta... Had to drop engine and transmission. Good Times

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at August 18, 2013 04:19 PM (MhA4j)

219 Those Brits are a bunch of pikers - I bet our CA high speed rail will be way more than 2X the projected cost!! Plus ours doesn't really go anywhere!!

Posted by: exhelodrvr at August 17 at August 18, 2013 04:19 PM (edmTQ)

220 I see that "The Butler" has opened to box office success. Oprah's seeming stunt in Switzerland paid paid off so far although the reviews seem mixed.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2013 04:25 PM (2Tv3A)

221 They don't need vinegar for high speed trains, too?

Posted by: exhelodrvr at August 17 at August 18, 2013 04:27 PM (edmTQ)

222 Well, at least taking the engine out isn't necessary to do the clutch...

When I did the timing belt the water pump was easy since most of the shit was out of the way by then.

I'll replace the rear main seal and input shaft seals at the same time as the clutch.  I'm gonna have to make/buy a flywheel lock for torquing the crank bolts.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 18, 2013 04:28 PM (vZOX+)

223 oh, yeah, why would we talk football, when we can discuss oprah . . . i have a lot of ghey friends, just now realizing how many. 

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 04:28 PM (8lmkt)

224 220 I see that "The Butler" has opened to box office success. Oprah's seeming stunt in Switzerland paid paid off so far although the reviews seem mixed.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2013 08:25 PM (2Tv3A)


---


So, what's the shop owners cut?

Posted by: Craig Poe at August 18, 2013 04:31 PM (BVkEs)

225 I thought this had turned into an open thread. Is it not appropriate to discuss Oprah's movie. Football doesn't interest me.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2013 04:31 PM (2Tv3A)

226 I think I fear the heater core more than the clutch.  Its only like a $30 part, but it takes all day disassembling the dash to get to it, or you can pay about $600 to have that $30 part installed.

They're saying cold winter coming.  I've been driving around for years with it just bypassed, which is usually no big deal in south FL...but

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 18, 2013 04:33 PM (vZOX+)

227 The Giants sure love their field goals. The Yankees are doing splendidly too.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 04:34 PM (K+I6z)

228 The Yankees are doing splendidly too.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 08:34 PM (K+I6z)


heh, BoSox . . . 

Posted by: Peaches at August 18, 2013 04:35 PM (8lmkt)

229

I'll replace the rear main seal and input shaft seals at the same time as the clutch. I'm gonna have to make/buy a flywheel lock for torquing the crank bolts.

 

If you're doing what I think   you're doing, I've used a big screwdriver against the teeth on the flywheel to hold it in place. Of course, that was in the days before aluminum  housings.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 18, 2013 04:36 PM (0HooB)

230 Let the A-Rod booing begin.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 04:37 PM (K+I6z)

231 And the pitcher almost hits him. Someone in the crowd has a PED Xing sign.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 04:38 PM (K+I6z)

232 Pitcher hits him, gets ejected, Yankees manager going nuts.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 04:39 PM (K+I6z)

233 Well, at least taking the engine out isn't necessary to do the clutch... It was designed for a 1.1L. but I had an -S- Type with a 1.6 so it was really cramped under the hood. Speedo went to 115 on that model and I raced it in some Gymkhanas with great success. Best small car I ever owned. A drunk hit me from behind going 75 on a residential street. It nearly survived with the sub frame and all being so stiff. When I did the timing belt the water pump was easy since most of the shit was out of the way by then. I'll replace the rear main seal and input shaft seals at the same time as the clutch. I'm gonna have to make/buy a flywheel lock for torquing the crank bolts. Always best to do everything possible when any tear-down is necessary. I really respect that level of ownership Posted by: Purp at August 18, 2013 08:28 PM

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at August 18, 2013 04:39 PM (MhA4j)

234 Bob and Tom, Norfolk and Waypal:   http://tinyurl.com/leum4fu

Posted by: speedster1 at August 18, 2013 04:41 PM (yeM7r)

235 Correction: Pitcher not ejected, but home plate ump warned both benches. Girardi was mad, though.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 04:42 PM (K+I6z)

236 That was bullshit.  No reason to warn the Yankees bench on that.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2013 04:43 PM (0XHMd)

237

OK, y'all, it's time to watch   today's   NASCAR race we recorded   earlier.  And eat supper.

 

Have   fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 18, 2013 04:43 PM (0HooB)

238 A police officer has been detained after allegedly grabbing a baby from her father's arms and hurling her onto the ground in central China. The seven-month-old infant suffered a fractured skull but is now said to be out of danger. The apparently drunk officer is said to have made a bet with friends that the girl was only a doll.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 18, 2013 04:43 PM (e8kgV)

239 The statist left would like everyone densely clustered into urban centers and herded onto public conveyances.  Except for themselves--at least the rich ones. 

I used to drive to my job in 7.5 minutes.  I could get there by bicycle in under 12 minutes.  If I took the bus, it took an hour and twenty minutes and I had to walk 20 blocks (about 14 from home to the bus, and 6 from the bus to the job).  If I took the train to my current job, it gets me to work an hour and forty minutes early, or 15 minutes late.  And I'd still have to walk 8 blocks through a shitty neighborhood.

\Mass transit is not a bad deal if you work normal-people hours.  I never have.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at August 18, 2013 04:43 PM (ymovd)

240 Evening folks. So I've been gardening, which has provided some food and also a few giggles. My tomato is thinking of running for Mayor of NYC. pic.twitter.com/mo7jawiosC

Posted by: Y-not at August 18, 2013 04:45 PM (5H6zj)

241 And the Yankees tie it 2-2.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 04:45 PM (K+I6z)

242 Someday, I hope someone can explain to me in simple terms why the left is so obsessed with high speed rail

Posted by: NR Pax at August 18, 2013 06:12 PM (U+O64)


Well, duh, it's so they can force all the plebes off the highways so they can cruise unimpeded in their Lexuses (Lexii?) and Big Money Wasters.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2013 04:47 PM (60Q+L)

243 My tomato is thinking of running for Mayor of NYC. pic.twitter.com/mo7jawiosC Posted by: Y-not ------------------------------------ Garden erotica. Who knew 'maters got stiffies?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at August 18, 2013 04:48 PM (4Mv1T)

244 I just found some long lost relatives in Sicily using the pre-Ellis Island spelling.  I got a cousin who's a freaking scorching hot model!

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 18, 2013 04:48 PM (vZOX+)

245 A petition drive to recall San Diego Mayor Bob Filner got underway today, trying to oust the man who has been accused of sexual harassment by 16 women. The mayor's opponents turned out all over the city, including at a local marathon, trying to get the nearly 102,000 signatures they need to collect by Sept. 26 to get the issue on the ballot. Rachel Laing, a political consultant turned Filner recall worker, said a small army of volunteers was ready to begin circulating a recall petition against the mayor. "The groundswell to get this guy out of office is incredible," Laing said.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 18, 2013 04:48 PM (e8kgV)

246 I'm a huge Yankee fan as you all here know but I hate A-Rod. Good for Dempster. A-Rod is a cheat an liar. And a scumbag

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2013 04:51 PM (jE38p)

247 Native Americans were peaceful! http://tinyurl.com/k7z8ev6

Posted by: steevy at August 18, 2013 04:53 PM (9XBK2)

248 Native Americans were peaceful! http://tinyurl.com/k7z8ev6 Posted by: steevy ---------------------------------- Bad apples in every barrel. Those were the rottenest. Doesn't make all apples bad.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at August 18, 2013 04:57 PM (4Mv1T)

249 248 Of course not,that wasn't the point.Hollywood prefers to makes the whites the bad guys in all cases.

Posted by: steevy at August 18, 2013 04:58 PM (9XBK2)

250 This BBC asshole is, well, an asshole.

Aussies are what you get when you give Englishmen or Englishwomen proper food and sunlight.

Hey! New York!  Another asshole for you to celebrate!

Posted by: bob　(codename Sayuri) at August 18, 2013 04:59 PM (eGb5D)

251 Sitting in the sun in Longview, AB, (home of Ian Tyson) listening to some really good music.

Posted by: Northernlurker at August 18, 2013 07:30 PM (ao/bv)


Just made it home from the rig about 45 minutes ago. I get an extra day or two off for intermediate casing run, because they had to do a remedial cement job on surface casing. So I came home. I may get a full day at home tomorrow, and then back to the salt mines on Tuesday.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2013 05:04 PM (60Q+L)

252 A-Rod on deck, and since there are 0 outs he will be up unless there's a triple play.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 05:05 PM (K+I6z)

253 CBO Report: Deficit Was $1.087 Trillion In 2012, All Four Years of ObamaÂ’s First Term Saw Deficits In Excess of $1 TrillionÂ… Quite the achievement, Barack.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2013 05:06 PM (jE38p)

254 "Economists: Brit high speed rail scheme costs will be 2X projections —Purp I know, its a real shocker that proponents of these schemes might grossly low-ball their actual costs." The more it costs, the richer everyone will be! Because Keynes! Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at August 18, 2013 05:07 PM (VT4mV)

255 //tinyurl.com/k7z8ev6 Posted by: steevy ---------------------------------- Bad apples in every barrel. Those were the rottenest. Doesn't make all apples bad. Posted by: Tobacco Road at August 18, 2013 08:57 PM (4Mv1T) Exactly! That's what I kept on saying during those "trials" at Nuremberg!

Posted by: Hermann Göring at August 18, 2013 05:10 PM (Vk2pI)

256 When planned in 2000, CharlotteÂ’s light-rail line was supposed to cost $225 million. The final cost turned out to be $467 $1,000,000,00 million. Even after adjusting for inflation, thatÂ’s close to a 100 400 percent cost overrun.

My suggested motto was "Taking You For A Ride!"

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 18, 2013 05:11 PM (aDwsi)

257 256 - Ooops. just $1,000,000,000..., NOT $1,000,000,000 million

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 18, 2013 05:12 PM (aDwsi)

258 Quite the achievement, Barack. Flattery will get you nowhere. Now, make sure your grandkids pay my bill...

Posted by: Barack the I at August 18, 2013 05:13 PM (FcR7P)

259 Ooops. just $1,000,000,000..., NOT $1,000,000,000 million Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 18, 2013 09:12 PM (aDwsi) Well if your were talking about obamacare now......

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2013 05:13 PM (jE38p)

260 I'm sorta drunk, so I'm just gonna pretend this is the ONT, ok? Whatchall up to?

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 18, 2013 05:14 PM (ZFinx)

261 TR - I see there is consideration of allowing the Catawbas to open a casino. I didn't realize that the Catawbas are an organized tribe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 18, 2013 05:15 PM (aDwsi)

262 I'm sorta drunk, so I'm just gonna pretend this is the ONT, ok? Whatchall up to? Posted by: DC in Towson at August 18, 2013 09:14 PM (ZFinx) Waiting for A-Rod to get hit again in the Yankee game

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2013 05:16 PM (jE38p)

263 $75 billion. They could buy half a million Bentleys to serve the London to Birmingham route. Huge-ass parking lots filled with Bentleys, all with keys in the ignition. Pay the attendant a buck (or a quid) and away you go.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2013 05:17 PM (FcR7P)

264 @260 I'm up to about 5 foot two inches.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at August 18, 2013 05:18 PM (HL9N8)

265 Waiting for A-Rod to get hit again in the Yankee game Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2013 09:16 PM (jE38p) And the bench-clearing brawl to follow.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 05:18 PM (K+I6z)

266 And the bench-clearing brawl to follow. Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 09:18 PM (K+I6z) I suppose the Yankee players would have to defend A-Roid since he is on their team but their heart can't really be in it.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2013 05:19 PM (jE38p)

267 I'm sorta drunk, so I'm just gonna pretend this is the ONT, ok? ------------ This is not the ONT. And if you don't know that, then perhaps you should tread lightly.

Posted by: Walter White at August 18, 2013 05:19 PM (Aif/5)

268 >>>Waiting for A-Rod to get hit again in the Yankee game Yeah, flipping between that, BBT and How I Met Your Mother and the preseason game. Seeing Hasselbeck in a Colts uniform is taking some getting used to.

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 18, 2013 05:19 PM (ZFinx)

269 DC in Towson - Are you in Maryland?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 18, 2013 05:19 PM (aDwsi)

270 Yep, 2 miles from scenic downtown Towson.

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 18, 2013 05:21 PM (ZFinx)

271 This is not the ONT. And if you don't know that, then perhaps you should tread lightly. Posted by: Walter White at August 18, 2013 09:19 PM (Aif/5) Since he often lasts many hours into the ONT, it's best to cut him some slack tonight.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 05:21 PM (K+I6z)

272 High Speed rail?? It's like crack cocaine to liberals. I live in Norfolk VA & have watched the Light Rail to VA Beach, which only goes to Newtown Rd. Every time I see one pass, I count the riders. I don't think I've ever seen more than 10 on a car & usually much less. Corrupt Democrat Party boondoggle....always.

Posted by: Electric at August 18, 2013 05:21 PM (ZH9Zu)

273 Wasn't trying to be a dick Vendette, was a quote from last weeks Breaking Bad. He asked what we were up to and I'm watching tonight's new episode.

Posted by: Adam at August 18, 2013 05:23 PM (Aif/5)

274 Wasn't trying to be a dick Vendette, was a quote from last weeks Breaking Bad. He asked what we were up to and I'm watching tonight's new episode. Posted by: Adam at August 18, 2013 09:23 PM (Aif/5) Ah, I get it now! Sorry! I don't have enough cable to get Breaking Bad.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 05:24 PM (K+I6z)

275 270 Yep, 2 miles from scenic downtown Towson. Posted by: DC in Towson
--------------------------

Geeze. The wife of the most liberal friends I have is a big wig at Towson U.

It is astonishing how this guy parrots the Progressive line on anything. His wife is worse.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 18, 2013 05:24 PM (aDwsi)

276 $75 billion. They could buy half a million Bentleys ..... Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2013 09:17 **** It will buy about a dozen and maybe three or four G-550s

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at August 18, 2013 05:25 PM (MhA4j)

277 Feds: Americans Selling Their Food Stamps For Cash Has Jumped By 30%… Surprise! Via Fox News: The percentage of Americans selling their food stamps back to stores for cash has increased by 30 percent over the past several years, according to a new Agriculture Department study. The study on food stamps trafficking — which the agency said included “covert investigation” in stores — compared the periods of 2006 -2008 to 2009 -2011. Despite the increase, trafficking has declined since the 1990s, when the rate was nearly 4 percent of food stamps, also known as Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Programs benefits. The total amount of SNAP benefits is now at roughly $858 million, compared to $330 million annually in the 2006-2008 period. The increase reflects the overall growth in SNAP participation and benefits, the agency said in the August 2013 report. Recipients typically sell back their benefits at a discount, according to the agency, which said its undercover investigations and research into electronic SNAP transactions focused on stores that showed “suspicious activities.” Fraud in a Federal Program? The hell you say! Wait till obamacare kicks in, we'll be lucky to live thru it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2013 05:25 PM (jE38p)

278 Poor Hello Kitty, she has reason to worry.
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/selection-du-weekend-49-13.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 18, 2013 05:25 PM (kENvx)

279 >>>Wasn't trying to be a dick Vendette, was a quote from last weeks Breaking Bad. He asked what we were up to and I'm watching tonight's new episode. Hah! I was just wondering whether to jump ugly on you or not, and since I don't watch the show, I missed the reference. Glad I held fire. And lurk/Vendette, thanks for having my back! Although it's been a while since I've lasted too far into an ONT. Stupid adult shit.

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 18, 2013 05:26 PM (ZFinx)

280 I didn't realize that the Catawbas are an organized tribe. ----------------------------------- Like the Lumbee closer to me. But they both have rivers named after them, so there's that.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at August 18, 2013 05:26 PM (4Mv1T)

281 >>>Geeze. The wife of the most liberal friends I have is a big wig at Towson U. You mean North Jersey South University. You're in NC, right?

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 18, 2013 05:27 PM (ZFinx)

282 Ah, I get it now! Sorry! I don't have enough cable to get Breaking Bad. --------- No big deal, may not be a bad thing you don't get it, it's a pretty dark show. Not for everyone.

Posted by: Adam at August 18, 2013 05:27 PM (Aif/5)

283 Apologies if it's already been said:



Quelle suprise.

Posted by: NC Ref at August 18, 2013 05:28 PM (Myqtp)

284 No big deal, may not be a bad thing you don't get it, it's a pretty dark show. Not for everyone. Posted by: Adam at August 18, 2013 09:27 PM (Aif/5) You're very likely right. My mentality is that real life is depressing enough sometimes, so why watch depressing TV or movies?

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2013 05:29 PM (K+I6z)

285 #169

Why bother? You can get an entire A8 or A10 based laptop for not much more than it would take to build a decent Micro ATX or mini ITX box. The big brands get their stuff so much cheaper than we can building one-off systems. Laptops have gotten a lot better on the heat issue as the processors and chip sets are much better nowadays at ramping down the clock rate when there isn't any heavy lifting to do. Also shutting down whole cores when there isn't enough activity of the sort that can be distributed.

An SSD can also reduce heat quite a lot. A lot more heat comes off a busy hard drive than most people appreciate. It bumps up the price a fair bit while reducing capacity but well worth it.

Posted by: epobirs at August 18, 2013 05:29 PM (kcfmt)

286

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2013 09:25 PM (jE38p)

 

I saw that on Fox news about 90 minutes ago.

Best part they said "This doesn't actually cost the tax payers any money."

The hell it doesn't. If these people are selling their EBT (presumably below actual value) then we're spending to much on them.

Fuck 'em.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 18, 2013 05:29 PM (GaqMa)

287 obama's worst legacy of all in foreign policy is that he legitimized the Muslim Brotherhood on the international stage and that cat is not going back into any bag. What a cock sucker

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2013 05:30 PM (jE38p)

288 CAC post up. Bring your own hemostats.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at August 18, 2013 05:32 PM (4Mv1T)

289 Every time I see one pass, I count the riders. I don't think I've ever seen more than 10 on a car usually much less. Corrupt Democrat Party boondoggle....always.



I do that with the local regional buses.  Friday afternoon at 5pm...empty.  Quelle fkn suprise.

Posted by: NC Ref at August 18, 2013 05:32 PM (Myqtp)

290 Nathan Explosion cosplay?

Posted by: epobirs at August 18, 2013 05:32 PM (kcfmt)

291 You're in NC, right? Posted by: DC
--------

Yup

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 18, 2013 05:33 PM (aDwsi)

292 Just dropped in because it was here. And so am I. I didn't read the comments. Are we thoroughly off-topic yet? (What am I saying? It's more than 25 comments in!) Anyway High-speed rail reminds me of what's said of recycling. You know, if some recycle had value, you'd see bums picking through the trash for it, right (cans)? If there was a reason to have those rails, someone would be setting up to turn a buck on it. I mean, folks are setting up commercial space-travel passenger service, so I don't think much would be keeping them from building high-$peed rail$ if there were $ome good rea$on$ to do $o. And just for the halibut, let us all ask together, http://wherearetheflyingcars.com/ Well, what the hal: Barely related, here's the start of my collage master's thesis on Theory of Transportation or something from June, in case you weren't rickrolled into seeing it previously. 28 inscrutible panels. Yes I meant collage, not college. http://mindfulwebworks.com/doodles/transportation-basics There. Now, by the Law of Murphy and my track record holds, the ONT will have been posted while I wrote this, the Horde will have mooved on, and no one will see this. If we're all lucky.

Posted by: mindful webworker, high-speed swivel office chair at August 18, 2013 05:35 PM (U13jb)

293 You're very likely right. My mentality is that real life is depressing enough sometimes, so why watch depressing TV or movies? -------- I understand that attitude but something about the show pulled me in. The transformation of Walter White from a hapless chemistry teacher misguidedly trying to help his family to a drug kingpin monster has been interesting to watch.

Posted by: Adam at August 18, 2013 05:37 PM (Aif/5)

294 nood

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 18, 2013 05:38 PM (aDwsi)

295 CAC thread upÂ…

Posted by: Psychedelicat at August 18, 2013 05:39 PM (Vk2pI)

296 obama's worst legacy of all in foreign policy is that he legitimized the Muslim Brotherhood on the international stage and that cat is not going back into any bag. What a cock sucker -Nevergiveup Well, you can bag that cat again, but it might take a few years of hard war. Meanwhile, yeah, I can understand the Obama's legacy thing. Sigh. At least I could handle a bumbershoot.

Posted by: Zombie Neville Chamberlain at August 18, 2013 05:40 PM (U13jb)

297 You just hate speed rail 'cause you want to hurt the hard working middle class. Now get out of the way of progressives and let us transfer all this money to our political buddies.

Posted by: frankg at August 18, 2013 05:43 PM (NlJsJ)

298 292 Now, by the Law of Murphy and my track record holds, the ONT will have been posted while I wrote this, the Horde will have mooved on, and no one will see this. If we're all lucky. -mindful webworker, high-speed swivel office chair at August 18, 2013 09:35 PM 294 nood -Mike Hammer at August 18, 2013 09:38 PM SEE!

Posted by: mindful webworker, high-speed swivel office chair at August 18, 2013 05:43 PM (U13jb)

299

Australian train safety video.

 

https://tinyurl.com/m9o2vau

 


The earworm is worth it.

Posted by: Mustbequantum at August 18, 2013 05:54 PM (MIKMs)

300 Bah.  Long-time friend called me to recommend The Butler.

I told her I don't go to movies,  as I am too cheap.

Since she is still a democrat,  I just let it go.  I am going to have a hard time dealing with her now that she has retired.  I can only go so far without talking about politics.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 18, 2013 06:09 PM (GoIUi)

301 "Someday, I hope someone can explain to me in simple terms why the left is so obsessed with high speed rail"

Control where you go. Control when you go. Control where you live and work.

Funnel money to unions and other cronies.

Big expensive projects to demonstrate how important the bosses are.

The almost-sexual pleasure of running other people's lives.

Posted by: Voltaire at August 19, 2013 10:23 AM (T4dRn)

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