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July 09, 2013

Elliot Spitzer Cries n' Stuff
— Ace

On Twitter -- at that link, at Twitchy -- there's a lot of debate over whether his tears are real or not. Conservatives think he's faking; liberals, of course, are quite sure that we "can't know his heart" and can't tell if his tears are real (with the stealth suggestion that if we can't know his heart we have to assume the question in his favor).

But who cares either way? I happen to think he really got misty. So what? Even hardened criminals will cry on occasion as they wallow in self-pity. Crying (or nearly crying) in response to major embarrassment in front of many people is a inborn response. Even psychopaths and sociopaths have the ability to feel their own pain.

I'm not saying Spitzer is either of those. (Only his victims can tell us that.) I'm just saying to credit this as saying anything at all about his sincerity or his character or his changes is asinine.

Elliot Spitzer is sad that his once-glittering career was derailed by a serious prostitution scandal and that he was publicly humiliated in front of the world. Who would not be?

Crying over someone else's misfortune does tell us something about the crier -- that he has a level of empathy for others. Crying about one's own misfortune tells us nothing except that one still has a heartbeat and a functioning limbic system.

We should sooner argue about whether or not Spitzer was breathing and whether or not his cells were successfully employing the Krebs cycle.

This is part of the thesis of that book I read about Television Culture -- television invites, or perhaps demands, a focus on the trivial. And then we argue over the trivial, because that's what television has put on our intellectual menu for the day.

And self-pity and embarrassment is not the same as contrition and certainly not the same as redemption. But television does things simply, and has taught us that the simple thing (crying on TV) is equal to the difficult things (contrition and redemption).

Posted by: Ace at 09:07 AM | Comments (320)
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1 Sorry Ace, as long as people in NYC vote for people like him and Bloomingidiot they deserve what they get.

Posted by: Vic at July 09, 2013 09:09 AM (lZvxr)

2 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 09:10 AM (/PCJa)

3 The prospect of trying to join today's private sector can be terrifying.

Posted by: t-bird at July 09, 2013 09:10 AM (FcR7P)

4 Hang down your head, E. Spitzer.
Hang down your head and cry.
Hang down your head E, Spitzer.
Poor boy, you're gonna cry.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 09, 2013 09:10 AM (XUKZU)

5 All your hookers belong to me

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 09, 2013 09:10 AM (nTgAI)

6 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 09:10 AM (/PCJa)

7 In the wrong hands, a vagina can be deadly.

Posted by: Elliot Spitzer at July 09, 2013 09:11 AM (8ZskC)

8 Hey it worked for Cankles.

Posted by: flmom at July 09, 2013 09:11 AM (nSjrf)

9 So we're moving from vaginas to dicks?

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 09, 2013 09:11 AM (XUKZU)

10 Great, back-to-back posts about vaginas

Posted by: The Chicken at July 09, 2013 09:11 AM (Pr6hk)

11 Spitzer / Weiner 2016

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 09, 2013 09:11 AM (nTgAI)

12 I can't help it. My dick has a mind of its own. I've given up on it.

Posted by: Elliot Spitzer at July 09, 2013 09:12 AM (8ZskC)

13 I've seen much cuter rats.

Posted by: BignJames at July 09, 2013 09:12 AM (Sg0G/)

14 >>>I would cry to if I had to be that close to Mika.

she looks like she smells.

Posted by: ace at July 09, 2013 09:12 AM (/IWYB)

15 Or is it Weiner / Spitzer 2016

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 09, 2013 09:13 AM (nTgAI)

16
We should have an Acquittal Meter for George Zimmerman. A meter that weighs the evidence and testimonies and also takes into account the daily measure of stupidity of the American people.

For instance, this 'poem' moves the needle on the Acquittal Meter a bit closer to 0.

added: Eliot Spitzer and Weiner running for elected office also moves the needle closer to 0.

Posted by: soothsayer at July 09, 2013 09:13 AM (UbXPv)

17 I remember when the old man used to pull off his belt and say, "I'll give you something to cry about." He meant it.

Posted by: Fritz at July 09, 2013 09:13 AM (UzPAd)

Posted by: The Chicken at July 09, 2013 09:13 AM (Pr6hk)

If the tears were fake, he's a manipulative sociopath.

If they were real, he's a self-pitying nancy-boy.

I loathe our political class.

Posted by: LibertarianJim at July 09, 2013 09:14 AM (CMbMd)

20 This is part of the thesis of that book I read about Television Culture -- television invites, or perhaps demands, a focus on the trivial. I don't think that's true. At least, not if you mean the medium itself. What does invite (and, yes, demand) a focus on the trivial is the MFM, and for a variety of reasons. It's too late now (thanks, Media) but I've often wondered how the world would have been different if reasonable, well-reasoned Conservatives had a news show. Not 10-second blurbs, but real news: here are some facts, here are some more facts, oh, and here are some more facts. Here's a little analysis. Next story.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 09:14 AM (/PCJa)

21 Maybe Larry Craig wants to consider running for the Senate again.

Posted by: Mallfly at July 09, 2013 09:14 AM (bJm7W)

22 So we're moving from vaginas to dicks? They go hand-in-glove.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 09:15 AM (/PCJa)

23 Do you have any idea how much the prostitution industry expanded on my watch?

Posted by: Elliot Spitzer at July 09, 2013 09:15 AM (8ZskC)

24 Client 9 is your typical spoiled rotten rich NY Jew. There are 1,000's in NYC. They think they are entitled to rule. He is nothing unusual. You've met them at airports demanding a better seat. You've seen them a restaurants complaining. If I were Jewish, I would tell these dickheads to STF.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 09, 2013 09:15 AM (wR+pz)

25
Ya big crybaby.

Suckitup Buttercup.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 09, 2013 09:15 AM (nELVU)

26 I'm not sure this is an improvement over the Twat post....

Posted by: backhoe™ at July 09, 2013 09:15 AM (ULH4o)

27 Someone better turn that man's vagina into a gun.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at July 09, 2013 09:15 AM (NF2Bf)

28 Hey, give him a break, it's not like he killed anybody

Posted by: Ted Kennedy at July 09, 2013 09:15 AM (Pr6hk)

Since we're on a new thread now, I am going to link to my comment on the previous thread because I think i came up with some really fun and exciting new misogynist insults and I want to share.

http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=341520#c20871419

And to tie that to the content of THIS post, if Elliot Spitzer's vagina was a gun, it would be full of sand and therefore useless.

Or something.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 09, 2013 09:16 AM (4df7R)

30
Psychopaths and sociopaths is redundant, fyi. They're the same thing.

see: Fersch
see also: Hare

Posted by: soothsayer at July 09, 2013 09:16 AM (UbXPv)

31 Is NYC sanitation commish elected or appointed? There's a job for Elliot.

Posted by: BignJames at July 09, 2013 09:16 AM (Sg0G/)

32 I'm not depressed. I've been in dark places before. Dark, warm places that smelled like fish.

Posted by: Elliot Spitzer at July 09, 2013 09:17 AM (8ZskC)

33 "Elliot Spitzer is sad that his once-glittering career was derailed by a serious prostitution scandal and that he was publicly humiliated in front of the world. Who would not be?"
-----------------

Oh, I dunno..., maybe Bill Clinton?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 09, 2013 09:17 AM (aDwsi)

34 It's my party and I'll cry if I want to. You would cry too if it happened to you.

Posted by: Leslie Gore Spitzer at July 09, 2013 09:17 AM (OgQih)

35 So, I guess he's stopped wearing Black socks? That's a change.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 09, 2013 09:17 AM (wR+pz)

36 If my vagina were a gun, I could've mugged Eliott Spitzer like 47 times since Sunday.

Posted by: Brisco_County at July 09, 2013 09:18 AM (6OVKm)

37 As long as he keeps his socks on, I'll....nah, still can't vote for him.

Posted by: SD3 at July 09, 2013 09:18 AM (JSetw)

38 "liberals, of course, are quite sure that we "can't know his heart" and can't tell if his tears are real (with the stealth suggestion that if we can't know his heart we have to assume the question in his favor)"

oh, puleeeze. these are the people who see racism behind every criticism of Obama's policies, the same people who trash Palin at every turn but think we dislike Hillary! becuase she's a "Strong Woman."

Posted by: Mallfly at July 09, 2013 09:18 AM (bJm7W)

39 Come on, you guys know you'd hit that. SFW.

http://tinyurl.com/mxrwjcw

Posted by: Joe Scarborough at July 09, 2013 09:18 AM (Aif/5)

40 Vagina thread... to a Dick Thread.... do I sense... a Theme?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 09, 2013 09:19 AM (lZBBB)

41 wait..did he limbo w/ hookers?

Posted by: jeff at July 09, 2013 09:19 AM (B0Wnx)

42
We live in a time when the shameless and unaccountable can thrive in public office.

Posted by: soothsayer at July 09, 2013 09:19 AM (UbXPv)

43 Let he who has not paid for cooter cast the first stone.

Posted by: Elliot Spitzer at July 09, 2013 09:19 AM (8ZskC)

44 If my vagina was Elliot Spitzer It'd cry on TV From all the genital warts Vajazzling me.

Posted by: Lame Ass Poetess at July 09, 2013 09:19 AM (n50fF)

45 Zim update. Still in recess. One guy just got in trouble for knocking a kid down and stealing the swing.

Posted by: UWP at July 09, 2013 09:19 AM (r98SZ)

46 49 Let he who has not paid for cooter cast the first stone. Posted by: Elliot Spitzer at July 09, 2013 01:19 PM (8ZskC) Let he who can't find free cooter, pay for it.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 09, 2013 09:20 AM (wR+pz)

47 If my vagina were an onion, my tears would be delicious.

Posted by: Elliot Spitzer at July 09, 2013 09:20 AM (UzPAd)

48 Ripped off from a comment on HotAir. Remember, John Profumo? Of course you don't. But Profumo rehabilitated himself by doing charitable acts for he next 40 years. He did not continue to seek out fame and power: http://goo.gl/lZwvL

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 09:20 AM (vDjkK)

He's a narcissist and he needs to be in power over others.

IIRC, his legal career involved sleazy, hypocritical, and abuse of power tactics to get convictions. Typical for a sociopath to destroy others to gain more power and fame for himself.

Posted by: Charles Saatchi at July 09, 2013 09:20 AM (+aCe4)

50 Sock off

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at July 09, 2013 09:20 AM (+aCe4)

51
hey, if Marion Barry can make a comeback, anyone can

see: Cynthia McKinney

see also: Mark Dayton (D-MN)

see also: John McCain, a Keating Five

Posted by: soothsayer at July 09, 2013 09:21 AM (UbXPv)

52 @54 I remember. He was also a fucking Russian spy, or his whore was.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 09, 2013 09:21 AM (wR+pz)

Maybe stupidity is finally painful?

Hope springs eternal.

Posted by: Aerosmith at July 09, 2013 09:21 AM (0HooB)

54 Jimmy Swaggart. I have sinned! Too late for a recount? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpeeaIfF9c

Posted by: 13times at July 09, 2013 09:21 AM (fGPLK)

55 I also thought I heard the "ladies" weren't allowed to talk to him.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at July 09, 2013 09:22 AM (+aCe4)

whether or not his cells were successfully employing the Krebs cycle.

I've...had this discussion before.

In fairness I worked in a lab that did research an area that affected the Krebs Cycle. But still, it was a heated discussion.

Posted by: tsrblke at July 09, 2013 09:22 AM (GaqMa)

57 I cry when I think about the poor hooker that had to lower herself to service this knob. How would you like to be a woman in the flower of youth, and look up to see this ugly bastard with his fuckin Bozo the Clown male pattern baldness hairdo sweating and grunting on top of you?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 09, 2013 09:23 AM (YygV/)

58 see also: John McCain, a Keating Five

Posted by: soothsayer at July 09, 2013 01:21 PM (UbXPv)

And yet we continually wonder how McCain could do and say the things he does. He has been corrupt (and senile) for a long time!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 09, 2013 09:23 AM (Cnqmv)

59 55 He's a narcissist and he needs to be in power over others. IIRC, his legal career involved sleazy, hypocritical, and abuse of power tactics to get convictions. Typical for a sociopath to destroy others to gain more power and fame for himself. Posted by: Charles Saatchi at July 09, 2013 01:20 PM (+aCe4) He advocated for the prosecution of pimps and prostitutes while employing them himself. Why anyone would vote for this asshole, beats me. If he or Weiner does get elected, fuck you, NYC.

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 09:23 AM (vDjkK)

60 45 Come on, you guys know you'd hit that. SFW.

http://tinyurl.com/mxrwjcw

Posted by: Joe Scarborough at July 09, 2013 01:18 PM (Aif/5)

Wait, what? I thought she was a Serious NewspersonÂ™? Has to be a photoshop.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2013 09:23 AM (lVPtV)

61 there are no unforgiveable sins....for us

Posted by: Democrats at July 09, 2013 09:23 AM (SO2Q8)

62 None of this would have happened if women wore burkas and goats roamed free.

Posted by: Mohamed, the goat fucker at July 09, 2013 09:23 AM (wR+pz)

63 Any whore in America has more integrity and work ethic as this lousy piece of sh*t.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at July 09, 2013 09:23 AM (71LDo)

Someone should kick Spitzer in his balls as hard as possible; then we can compare his real tears to possibly fake ones.

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 09, 2013 09:24 AM (PWWdd)

65 Psychopaths and sociopaths is redundant, fyi. They're the same thing.

see: Fersch
see also: Hare

Posted by: soothsayer at July 09, 2013 01:16 PM (UbXPv)

I will add to this. Stay away from these people they are dangerous

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 09, 2013 09:24 AM (nTgAI)

66 This guy is a crooked lawyer who selectively prosecuted those who had committed the same legal infractions that he had.

How did he not get in my Administration?

Oh, that right, he's a total douche

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at July 09, 2013 09:24 AM (Pr6hk)

67 John Profumo was a good lay, all day--so Bob's your uncle, matey

Posted by: Mandy Rice-Davies at July 09, 2013 09:24 AM (omBWL)

68 I cry when I think about the poor hooker that had to lower herself to service this knob. How would you like to be a woman in the flower of youth, and look up to see this ugly bastard with his fuckin Bozo the Clown male pattern baldness hairdo sweating and grunting on top of you? It was worth it.

Posted by: Ashley Dupre at July 09, 2013 09:25 AM (GQ8sn)

69 *yawn* This Spitzer douche in NYC's problem. I quit caring about NYC a long time ago. They've never really been a part of America. History tells all.

Posted by: Soona at July 09, 2013 09:25 AM (MCKTB)

70
He has been corrupt (and senile) for a long time!

What's worse is that McCain leaves a trail of ruined or spoiled Republicans in his wake, in way or another.

See: Graham, Lindsey

See: Rubio, Marco

See: Flake, Jeff

See: Palin, Sarah

Posted by: soothsayer at July 09, 2013 09:25 AM (UbXPv)

71 63 I cry when I think about the poor hooker that had to lower herself to service this knob. How would you like to be a woman in the flower of youth, and look up to see this ugly bastard with his fuckin Bozo the Clown male pattern baldness hairdo sweating and grunting on top of you? Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 09, 2013 01:23 PM (YygV/) He like unprotected anal sex, so maybe they didn't really have to look at him too much...

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 09:25 AM (vDjkK)

72 He advocated for the prosecution of pimps and prostitutes while employing them himself. Why anyone would vote for this asshole, beats me. If he or Weiner does get elected, fuck you, NYC.

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 01:23 PM (vDjkK)

Heh heh. You said "beats" then said "Weiner." Heh heh.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 09, 2013 09:25 AM (4df7R)

if they vote for him

they deserve him

Posted by: Kiss at July 09, 2013 09:25 AM (zOTsN)

74 The prospect of trying to join today's private sector can be terrifying. They expect results!

Posted by: toby928© at July 09, 2013 09:25 AM (QupBk)

75 Those aren't tears!

They're vinegar and water.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 09, 2013 09:25 AM (xvZYu)

76 Spitzer looks like an evil rodent, kind of like Valerie Jarrett. If those two ever bred...gah.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2013 09:25 AM (lVPtV)

77 @71: Excellent suggestion.

Oh, and fuck the lying scumbag.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 09, 2013 09:25 AM (wtvvX)

To summarize:

He's only crying because he got caught.

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Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 09, 2013 09:25 AM (zF6Iw)

79 Mandy Rice-Davies was a smarmy tart

Posted by: Christine Keeler at July 09, 2013 09:26 AM (omBWL)

those are not tears of regret

he is squeezing his balls really really hard under the table

Posted by: Kiss at July 09, 2013 09:26 AM (zOTsN)

81
Actually, Fersch and Hare are psychologists who studied and defined psychopathy.

Posted by: soothsayer at July 09, 2013 09:26 AM (UbXPv)

82 He was crying because she was pointing a "gun" at him, under the table.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 09, 2013 09:27 AM (A0glY)

83 MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 09, 2013 01:09 PM (4df7R)
========
Epic rant, from previous thread. Stomped for this?

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 09, 2013 09:27 AM (VjL9S)

84 Here's the stuff they think up when not writing vagina poetry: DoE demands pregnant students be treated equally, even in sports. Yes Virginia, you can be quarterback up to full term.

Posted by: UWP at July 09, 2013 09:27 AM (r98SZ)

85 Any whore in America has more integrity and work ethic as this lousy piece of sh*t.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at July 09, 2013 01:23 PM (71LDo)

Professional (whores) at least give you value for you money, and you can choose not to engage their services.

Political whores (like Spitzer and Weiner to name only a few) give you negative value for your money, and are only too glad to employ the power of the state to force you to engage their services!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 09, 2013 09:27 AM (Cnqmv)

those aren't tears of regret

its the ben wha balls

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:27 AM (zOTsN)

87 I also thought I heard the "ladies" weren't allowed to talk to him.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at July 09, 2013 01:22 PM (+aCe4)

That was just cover so that they wouldn't HAVE to talk to him. You just known he'd have spent the whole time complimenting himself and giving his dick nicknames.

"Time for some of Spitzer's spritzer, amiright?"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 09, 2013 09:27 AM (4df7R)

88 If my balls were a George Foreman grill and my meat was fat free would you eat it still?

Posted by: Elliot Spitzer at July 09, 2013 09:27 AM (SzAZ7)

89 What a pussy

Posted by: Richard Simmons at July 09, 2013 09:27 AM (entLs)

90 83 Spitzer looks like an evil rodent, kind of like Valerie Jarrett. If those two ever bred...gah. Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2013 01:25 PM (lVPtV) Only under lab conditions please.

Posted by: BignJames at July 09, 2013 09:27 AM (Sg0G/)

91 83 Spitzer looks like an evil rodent, kind of like Valerie Jarrett. If those two ever bred...gah.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2013 01:25 PM (lVPtV)

How did you learn of my origins???

Posted by: RatMan, Supervillain at July 09, 2013 09:28 AM (lZBBB)

92 When a man crying is supposed to score political points, our national ascendancy is at an end. Nay, our civilization is at an end.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 09, 2013 09:28 AM (pT3XC)

93 Spitzer is campaigning on how he's going to stick it to The Man on Wall Street

Yeh, the same Wall Street whose tax dollars keep NYC from turning into Detroit

"Sophisticated" lefty NYers of course will swallow that faster than a call girl who's double parked. They fall for that bullshit every time, not knowing that if he actually did get in Goldman Sachs face, their personal Senator Schmuckie would be on the phone to the mayor in a heartbeat with the ominous "you do know that federal cash you've been counting on is still tied up in committee, right?"

I predict that both Weiner and Spitzer are both elected by comfortable margins after a few "redemption" puff pieces by their holy oracle, The NY Times

Posted by: kbdabear at July 09, 2013 09:28 AM (/9IC1)

O/T

Congressional Dems have met with Chukey and say that they will block any immigration reform that does not give citizenship to the 11000000 illegals

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 09, 2013 09:28 AM (R8hU8)

95
When David Wu, the child rapist, makes his return to politics, we'll know the end is nigh.

Posted by: soothsayer at July 09, 2013 09:28 AM (UbXPv)

those aren't tear of regret

he is wearing super-restrictive underpants

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:28 AM (zOTsN)

The reason Weiner/Spitzer can continue nearly unblemished by sex scandals is because they were sex scandals. Rather than being an episode of embarrassment to the liberal establishment, liberals are tickled that the Right is offended.

That's the way they see it. We're hung up about sex so Weiner/Spitzer shoves it up our asses. They really hate us a lot.

Posted by: spongeworthy at July 09, 2013 09:28 AM (r5w1L)

98 Elliot Spitzer?

Never heard of her.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at July 09, 2013 09:28 AM (Pr6hk)

99 You know what I do when someone cries? Punch em in the face. I'm not saying I'm proud of it.

Posted by: eleven at July 09, 2013 09:29 AM (KXm42)

100 he hired a prostitute to squeeze ~~is squeezing~~ his balls really really hard under the table

Posted by: Kiss at July 09, 2013 01:26 PM (zOTsN)

FIFY

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 09, 2013 09:29 AM (4df7R)

101

Come on, you guys know you'd hit that. SFW.

I tell you, nothing says "serious newswoman" like posing in a skirt cut so high you need to shave before going out in the morning, then sticking your leg up in the air like a road-show Chicago reject.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 09, 2013 09:29 AM (zF6Iw)

102 Last summer Ashley was knocked up and "engaged" but I see nothing about her getting married to the asphalt king.

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 09:29 AM (vDjkK)

103 Epic rant, from previous thread. Stomped for this?

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 09, 2013 01:27 PM (VjL9S)

I figured we'd be on a new thread by the time I finished my critical analysis. You've got to be fast on the HQ!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 09, 2013 09:30 AM (4df7R)

104 Will Bob Bechel call him a wuss now or give him a pass 'cause he's a Dim and supposed to cry about confronting his sordid past and being better because of it?

Posted by: Nick Shaw at July 09, 2013 09:30 AM (9Xn+t)

105 Ouch, state could get todays testimony by the Dr. stricken because he was sitting in court during other testimony.

Posted by: UWP at July 09, 2013 09:30 AM (r98SZ)

106 Sorry I was crying. I was confronted by a thug wielding a vagina just this morning.

Posted by: Elliot Spitzer at July 09, 2013 09:30 AM (SzAZ7)

107 Court back in session....can't wait to see what the State does with Dr. Di Maio.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 09:30 AM (X6akg)

108 O/T Maj. Hassan is complaining about having to wear his uniform to court, because it represents "enemies of Islam." This, after still being paid over $200,000 in salary.

I don't recognize this country in the Age of Obama.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2013 09:30 AM (lVPtV)

109
The reason Weiner/Spitzer can continue nearly unblemished by sex scandals is because they were sex scandals. Rather than being an episode of embarrassment to the liberal establishment, liberals are tickled that the Right is offended.

Excellent.

Posted by: soothsayer at July 09, 2013 09:30 AM (UbXPv)

110 Spitzer and his wife are living apart so why don't they divorce? He's never going to change and he did make his wife look like a fool.

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 09:31 AM (vDjkK)

111 The NY Slime had a story recently, yesterday?, about the race. Spritzer has done the impossible, he has joined the unions and Wall St in opposing him. He won't win, the union hate his guts. Head of Home Depot, whom he tried to indict, might start a PAC just to run ads against him.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 09, 2013 09:31 AM (wR+pz)

112 experts are allowed to sit in on testimony IIRC

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:31 AM (zOTsN)

113 Court's back in session!

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 09:32 AM (vDjkK)

114 Who cares about this?

Posted by: dogfish at July 09, 2013 09:32 AM (NuPNl)

115 Anything interesting going on at the Z trial?

Posted by: Soona at July 09, 2013 09:32 AM (MCKTB)

116 Spitzer and his wife are living apart so why don't they divorce? He's never going to change and he did make his wife look like a fool.

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 01:31 PM (vDjkK)

Now... change Spitzer to Clinton....

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 09, 2013 09:32 AM (lZBBB)

117 "O/T
Congressional Dems have met with Chukey and say that they will block any immigration reform that does not give citizenship to the 11000000 illegals"

Why would they say that? All they have to do is let Boehner bring up some POS legislation then modify in conference to get 95% of what they want? It's not like anybody on the right is going to stop them.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 09, 2013 09:32 AM (Fz2C7)

118 Libs just don't care about what other people do while having sex. The only ones taht do are the christianists. who think only married people should have sex

Posted by: occam at July 09, 2013 09:33 AM (wlTLu)

119
The LoFo MoFoes will vote for him because they want their stuff.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 09, 2013 09:33 AM (/tUlE)

120 TV GOOD!!! ... ACE BAD !!!

Posted by: Low Information Viewer at July 09, 2013 09:33 AM (/9IC1)

121 What a fucking 9 year old girl whose dad couldn't afford to buy her a pony for Christmas.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 09, 2013 09:34 AM (N+qVl)

122

UWP

they can't un hear it

and experts are allowed to sit in

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:34 AM (zOTsN)

123
Posted by: occam

Yes. And you know what else?

YOUR SISTER'S GLOVE

Posted by: soothsayer at July 09, 2013 09:34 AM (UbXPv)

124 45 Come on, you guys know you'd hit that. SFW. http://tinyurl.com/mxrwjcw
Posted by: Joe Scarborough at July 09, 2013 01:18 PM (Aif/5)

Wait, what? I thought she was a Serious NewspersonÂ™? Has to be a photoshop.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2013 01:23 PM (lVPtV)

Who're those?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 09, 2013 09:34 AM (v3pYe)

125 Oh sweet and salty Jeebus. I wish I had time to read all these delicious comments. But I have to clean my assault vagina.

Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 09:34 AM (IZTTb)

126

Posted by: Christine Keeler at July 09, 2013 01:26 PM (omBWL)

What, no pic? Here you go:

http://tinyurl.com/ogabwro

And since we're on the subject. . .Joan Blondell:

http://tinyurl.com/mwzs2uc

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 09, 2013 09:34 AM (zF6Iw)

127 123 Anything interesting going on at the Z trial? Ace how about a live blog of the Z case? Someone give me link without comments, all I could find is with comments.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 09, 2013 09:34 AM (wR+pz)

128

Prosecutor looking like an asshole to a very distinguished expert witness

they got nothin

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:34 AM (zOTsN)

129 *Snorting benadryl, baking soda, and rat poison*

Posted by: occamz at July 09, 2013 09:35 AM (Aif/5)

130 But mom, I don't wanna get a real job.

Posted by: Elliot Sitzpinkler at July 09, 2013 09:35 AM (SzAZ7)

131 They really hate us a lot.Posted by: spongeworthy
The feeling is mutual.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 09, 2013 09:35 AM (OgQih)

132 Prosecutor looking like an asshole to a very distinguished expert witness Still the ME?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 09:35 AM (/PCJa)

133 I mean look at the OUTRAGE and SCANDAL from the right over Menendez and the underage Dominican hookers. How many here got hosed on that one?

Posted by: occam at July 09, 2013 09:36 AM (wlTLu)

134

yep

States cross examine

trying to rattle him at first

good luck

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:36 AM (zOTsN)

135 I wish I could turn my sexual perversions into a lucrative media career.

Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 09:36 AM (IZTTb)

136 Did Client 9 cry when fatassed Kathleen Porker was kicked off their dogshit program? I don't think so. I hate to break it to Spitzer's dumbass wife but there's like a 100% chance he's still out chasing strange.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2013 09:37 AM (hwwSK)

137 This prosecutor is such a weasely ass.

Posted by: RWC at July 09, 2013 09:37 AM (fWAjv)

138
Get back under the stairs, freak.

Posted by: soothsayer at July 09, 2013 09:37 AM (UbXPv)

139 now going after his qualification? seriously?

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:37 AM (zOTsN)

140 "112 Will Bob Bechel call him a wuss now or give him a pass 'cause he's a Dim and supposed to cry about confronting his sordid past and being better because of it?"

Wasn't old Bob caught in a little hooker extortion himself? I'm sure he shed a few crocodile tears in his life.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 09, 2013 09:37 AM (Fz2C7)

141 If occam's vagina was a gun, it would shoot blanks.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at July 09, 2013 09:37 AM (NF2Bf)

142 Still the ME?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 01:35 PM (/PCJa)

---

Yep

Posted by: RWC at July 09, 2013 09:37 AM (fWAjv)

143 Did anybody do this in the last thread?:

♪ ♫ Jenny's got a Vagina ♫ ♪

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 09, 2013 09:38 AM (/tUlE)

144 I hate to break it to Spitzer's dumbass wife but there's like a 100% chance he's still out chasing strange. And given the individual involved, "strange" may mean "outside of the species homo sapiens."

Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 09:38 AM (IZTTb)

145 O/T: Well, well. Looks like someone in the House grew balls and brains all at once. The new incarnation of the farm bill appears to have excised the Food Stamps for later consideration. (Also repealing that 1949 law that requires going over this crap again every year...) All I have is Roll Call - http://tinyurl.com/ljyaksd but that gives the basics well enough...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, in his happy place at July 09, 2013 09:38 AM (zUi7I)

146 I wish I could turn my sexual perversions into a lucrative media career.

Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 01:36 PM (IZTTb)

Works for me!

Posted by: Sandy Fluke at July 09, 2013 09:38 AM (zF6Iw)

147 now going after his qualification? seriously? Wait. What? ME: "I wrote the book on forensic ballistics. Literally." BLDR: "But were you really *qualified* to write that book?" What?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 09:38 AM (/PCJa)

148

Prosecutor has made a mistake of thinking he is smarter than this ME

not so

at all

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:39 AM (zOTsN)

149 [iI mean look at the OUTRAGE and SCANDAL from the right over Menendez and the underage Dominican hookers. How many here got hosed on that one?

Posted by: occam at July 09, 2013 01:36 PM (wlTLu) [/i]

Your failure to make a salient point is outdone only by your ineptitude in the attempt.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 09, 2013 09:39 AM (4df7R)

150

Gimme a F'ing break.

"There were two people there"

Posted by: RWC at July 09, 2013 09:39 AM (fWAjv)

151 I like this occam fella. You're right son, why should anyone care who anyone else sleeps with. Do you have any children, preferably boys? I'd like to offer my services as a baby sitter.

Posted by: NAMBLA President at July 09, 2013 09:39 AM (Aif/5)

152 Television news is dominated by people who have the emotional sensitivity of a charging rhino; i.e. virtually none. This is why reporters ask questions like "What are you feeling?" to somebody who just lost their children. This is not just a stupid question; it seems appropriate to the reporter because they really can't tell.

Everyone is about social skills - but really what social skills are is something to make up for poor emotional sensitivity.

Women in particular need to work on developing emotional sensitivity to go with their enormous emotional strength. Strength without sensitivity - in any thing - is destructive. Here is an exercise: instead of trying to get men to "show me your feelings" work on reading the small indications of emotion that men do show. Just as physical sensitivity is important in the physical world - emotional sensitivity is key in the emotional world. Ladies, there is a lot going on and a rich emotional world that you are missing.

Posted by: [/i] [/s] [/u] [/b] . An Observation at July 09, 2013 09:39 AM (ylhEn)

153 Prosecutor has made a mistake of thinking he is smarter than this ME It's like he thinks he's in family court, where just the judge has to agree with him. ... ... ... Oh.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 09:40 AM (/PCJa)

154 Prosecutor is a jerk, but witty: called Diamond Eugene a lady.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Medical Examiner at July 09, 2013 09:40 AM (baL2B)

155 now going after his qualification? seriously? Wait. What? ME: "I wrote the book on forensic ballistics. Literally." BLDR: "But were you really *qualified* to write that book?" What? Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 01:38 PM (/PCJa) I didn't see him go after his qualifications.... There is no way to rattle this witness. Unpossible.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 09:40 AM (X6akg)

156

now prosecutor trying to confuse him

not working

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:40 AM (zOTsN)

157 Andrew Branca, LOSD ‏@LawSelfDefense 51s #zimmermantrial #dimaio BDLR upset that Di Maio didn't consult with Rachel Jeanelt in coming to his expert opinion http://www.lawofselfdefense.com

Posted by: Ma Bell at July 09, 2013 09:41 AM (RLdcX)

158
Is it true that one of the rescue vehicles at SFO ran over and killed one of the passengers? I just heard that today. Those idiots.

Posted by: soothsayer at July 09, 2013 09:41 AM (UbXPv)

159 Prosecutor looking like an asshole to a very distinguished expert witness

they got nothin

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 01:34 PM (zOTsN)

----------------------------------------------

The prosecutor's been an asshole throughout the trial. IMHO, only an asshole would agree to be part of the prosecution of this case.

Posted by: Soona at July 09, 2013 09:41 AM (MCKTB)

160 now prosecutor trying to confuse him "Sir, just because your ME was a barely functional retard who obviously got his position out of pity does not mean all of us are."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 09:42 AM (/PCJa)

161 apologies to assholes everywhere

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:42 AM (zOTsN)

162 I see the Sanford police are begging the citizens not to go all rioty if/when GZ is found not guilty.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2013 09:42 AM (lVPtV)

163

prosecutor now saying Zimmerman was the only one armed with a gun and a flashlight!!!

Clarence Darrow stuff here

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:43 AM (zOTsN)

164 118
Spitzer and his wife are living apart so why don't they divorce? He's never going to change and he did make his wife look like a fool.

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 01:31 PM (vDjkK)

Power. She wants the power and prestige and connections. She could lose that if she dumps him. This way she keeps it all and gets sympathy as well.

Posted by: buzzion at July 09, 2013 09:43 AM (LI48c)

165

LMAO! Just made the prosecutor look like a bitch.

"Oh, I thought it was a heavy flashlight."

Posted by: RWC at July 09, 2013 09:43 AM (fWAjv)

166 BDLR upset that Di Maio didn't consult with Rachel Jeanelt in coming to his expert opinion Who is Rachel Jeanelt? Or is that a typo? Also- don't *most* experts come to their expert opinions without extra consults? Especially when the information in question is so specifically within their area of expertise that they *literally* wrote the book on the subject?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 09:43 AM (/PCJa)

167

ME told him little plastic flashlight just not heavy enough to be an effective weapon

never ask a question you do not know the answer to

idiot

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:43 AM (zOTsN)

168 Prosecutor is a major asshole. So is the judge.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2013 09:43 AM (lVPtV)

169 State is flaying.....wildly. Just showed Di Maio Z's flashlight and called it a 'potential weapon'. Handed it to Di Maio to exam and he said, 'oh....I thought it was a metal flashlight....couldn't do much damage with that.'

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 09:44 AM (X6akg)

170 I see the Sanford police are begging the citizens not to go all rioty if/when GZ is found not guilty. They'll riot either way.

Posted by: EC at July 09, 2013 09:44 AM (GQ8sn)

171 Doctor feels the flashligt and laughs at the question if it could have been used to fend off the attacker.

Posted by: UWP at July 09, 2013 09:44 AM (r98SZ)

172 170 apologies to assholes everywhere Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 01:42 PM (zOTsN) s'aright

Posted by: BignJames at July 09, 2013 09:44 AM (Sg0G/)

173 You almost have to feel sorry for the prosecutor, he really does look like an idiot. I guess someone told him being loud and obnoxious helps when you're grasping at straws.

Posted by: spypeach at July 09, 2013 09:44 AM (0n1+D)

174 136 123 Anything interesting going on at the Z trial?

Ace how about a live blog of the Z case?

Someone give me link without comments, all I could find is with comments. Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 09, 2013 01:34 PM

If you have a twitter account, plenty of live coverage from http://legalinsurrection.com/

Posted by: Low Information Viewer at July 09, 2013 09:44 AM (/9IC1)

175 Oh, now he's getting into the experiments with the animals. Di Maio: Yes, following federal regulations.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 09:45 AM (X6akg)

176 I can't watch. Too tedious. DA is a dick.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 09, 2013 09:45 AM (wR+pz)

177 They'll riot either way.

Posted by: EC at July 09, 2013 01:44 PM (GQ8sn)

Target-rich environment?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2013 09:45 AM (lVPtV)

178 'oh....I thought it was a metal flashlight....couldn't do much damage with that.' Repeat after me: "force equals mass times velocity." Thank you.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 09:45 AM (/PCJa)

179 RE: Trial

Oh-oh! ME likes to shoot innocent animals for his research.

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 09, 2013 09:45 AM (UypUQ)

180

when you are doing this poorly, you should stick to your notes, sit down and shut up

Ohhhh

now underscoring he used animals to conduct his experiments

(please hate this ME please hate this ME)

prosecutor is a stupid dick

apologies to stupid dicks everywhere

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:45 AM (zOTsN)

181 I have the legal Insurrection link. Thanks.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 09, 2013 09:46 AM (wR+pz)

182 Damn it! I missed the Vagina Poetry Slam....

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 09, 2013 09:46 AM (32Ze2)

183 When will defense put the assault vagina on the stand? The cross-examination could require stirrups.

Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 09:46 AM (IZTTb)

184 Di Maio: Yes, following federal regulations. More Moron approved response: "Well, they get so testy when I use people."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 09:46 AM (/PCJa)

185 The ME shot cute fuzzy bunnies!!!

Posted by: RWC at July 09, 2013 09:46 AM (fWAjv)

186

Who is Rachel Jeanelt? Or is that a typo?

Jeannelt is the large 19 year old "star witness."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 09, 2013 09:47 AM (4df7R)

187 I hold my prognostications on the Zimmerman case, particularly when Nancy Grace gushes about how "moving" testimony from a Trayvon relative "can't help but move the jury"

If there are 6 Nancy Graces on that jury, GZ is toast

Posted by: kbdabear at July 09, 2013 09:47 AM (/9IC1)

188

hahahahah

not exactly a complicated case!!

hahahahahah

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:47 AM (zOTsN)

189 Great analysis. What does it matter that he feels sorry for himself?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 09, 2013 09:47 AM (jjvz+)

190 Andrew Branca, LOSD ‏@LawSelfDefense 1m #zimmermantrial #dimaio Can't believe how often BDLR asks questions and gets exploded by the answer--just ignorant trial practice.

Posted by: Ma Bell at July 09, 2013 09:47 AM (RLdcX)

191 Dammit. My immediate reaction was "Why, did someone punch him in the face?"

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 09, 2013 09:48 AM (VtjlW)

192 Repeat after me: "force equals mass times velocity."

Thank you.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 01:45 PM (/PCJa)

Um no thanks. That's momentum.

Force equals mass times acceleration.

Here's your dunce cap.

Posted by: buzzion at July 09, 2013 09:48 AM (LI48c)

193 Gah. The flashlight again!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2013 09:48 AM (lVPtV)

194

never ever ask a question you do not already know the answer to

that is what pretrial depos are for

stupid

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:48 AM (zOTsN)

195 Jeannelt is the large 19 year old "star witness." Oh, I thought her name was Jeantel. So, why would a medical expert "consult" with a 19 yr old druggie on a case?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 09:48 AM (/PCJa)

196 apologies to stupid dicks everywhere

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 01:45 PM (zOTsN)

On behalf of occam, who is currently playing with his Chuckie Menendez blow-up doll, I'll graciously accept that.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2013 09:48 AM (hwwSK)

197 apologies to assholes everywhere We good.

Posted by: eleven at July 09, 2013 09:49 AM (KXm42)

198

Please oh please compare his work with Bao's.

Posted by: RWC at July 09, 2013 09:49 AM (fWAjv)

199 prosecutor now shooting his own dick off

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:49 AM (zOTsN)

200 Posted by: buzzion at July 09, 2013 01:48 PM (LI48c) Dang it. That's what I get for posting too quickly. Yes, you're right: m = fv, f = ma.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 09:49 AM (/PCJa)

201 The state has to be throwing this case on purpose. Claim to the media they did the best they could, but it's like everyone gathered around the prosecutor's desk and agreed to tank the case.

Posted by: Dax at July 09, 2013 09:49 AM (gUYGX)

202 Talking talking talking, talking talking talking..... talking.

Posted by: ADA at July 09, 2013 09:50 AM (Aif/5)

203 DA should next ask how long a person is conscious after getting the guillotine. "Could I see the crowd looking back at me?"

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 09, 2013 09:50 AM (UypUQ)

204 209 prosecutor now shooting his own dick off

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 01:49 PM (zOTsN

So I guess he's a hermaphrodite.

Posted by: buzzion at July 09, 2013 09:50 AM (LI48c)

205 So, why would a medical expert "consult" with a 19 yr old druggie on a case? Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 01:48 PM (/PCJa) Jeez, I didn't know I had to add the snark tag

Posted by: Ma Bell at July 09, 2013 09:50 AM (RLdcX)

206 prosecutor now shooting his own dick off

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 01:49 PM (zOTsN)

Is he using someone's vagina to do it? Because that sounds like a porno.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 09, 2013 09:50 AM (4df7R)

207 I guess someone told him being loud and obnoxious helps when you're grasping at straws.

Posted by: spypeach at July 09, 2013 01:44 PM (0n1+D)

Tried, true, and proven liberal technique! Also it helps to yell "Racist!" if at all possible.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 09, 2013 09:50 AM (Cnqmv)

208

prosecutor is forcing comparison of State's ME and this ME

big big mistake

3 minutes is the longest TM could have lived

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:50 AM (zOTsN)

209 prosecutor now shooting his own dick off *cue Mayor's office scene with Bill Murray and EPA goon from Ghostbusters*

Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 09:50 AM (IZTTb)

210 Wait. Are the names of the doctors thus far Rao, Bao, and Maio?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 09, 2013 09:51 AM (jjvz+)

211 The state has to be throwing this case on purpose. Claim to the media they did the best they could, but it's like everyone gathered around the prosecutor's desk and agreed to tank the case. Posted by: Dax at July 09, 2013 01:49 PM (gUYGX) I'm starting to wander into the fuck you Angela camp for how the prosecution handled trial prep.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 09, 2013 09:51 AM (VtjlW)

212 Allen made the baby Isaac Newton cry.

Posted by: eleven at July 09, 2013 09:51 AM (KXm42)

213 Stupid DA is asking Di Maio all the things he CAN'T testify to.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 09:51 AM (X6akg)

214 Hepps the 8th ‏@HeppsThe8th 5m @LawSelfDefense How come he didn't ask if #DiMaio was aware that Rachel could hear wet grass? Retweeted by Andrew Branca, LOSD

Posted by: Ma Bell at July 09, 2013 09:51 AM (RLdcX)

215 Are the names of the doctors thus far Rao, Bao, and Maio? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 09, 2013 01:51 PM (jjvz+) Yes. Weird, huh?

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 09:51 AM (X6akg)

216 Claim to the media they did the best they could, but it's like everyone gathered around the prosecutor's desk and agreed to tank the case. That makes no sense. Of course, very little in this whole thing makes any sense, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but that makes no sense. Even if you wanted the fig-leaf of "we tried" the correct way to do that was not have the trial at all. Then you can say all kinds of mean things about Z "allegedly" and never have to back them up.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 09:52 AM (/PCJa)

217 220 Wait. Are the names of the doctors thus far Rao, Bao, and Maio?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 09, 2013 01:51 PM (jjvz+)

You got a problem with that meow?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 09, 2013 09:52 AM (oY6Yp)

218

this is about all he can do

replay the made of story of GZ the stalker murderer

not real effective

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:52 AM (zOTsN)

219 You know what would be really, really fucking cool? A starship armed with assault vaginas. I know just the man to command it.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at July 09, 2013 09:53 AM (IZTTb)

220 ) 226 Claim to the media they did the best they could, but it's like everyone gathered around the prosecutor's desk and agreed to tank the case. That makes no sense.
Of course, very little in this whole thing makes any sense, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but that makes no sense.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 01:52 PM (/PCJa)

File it under, "Only in Florida"?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 09, 2013 09:53 AM (v3pYe)

221 replay the made of story of GZ the stalker murderer not real effective Especially when the witness can basically say, "No, you're wrong in every particular. Shall I go through it again?"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 09:53 AM (/PCJa)

222

the shirt would hang down, you would have to pull the shirt away and then shoot

the problem with that is when the shirt is let go, the defect of the shirt would be different

bwahahahahahhah

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:54 AM (zOTsN)

223 File it under, "Only in Florida"? BLDR, putting the "duh" in Florida.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 09:54 AM (/PCJa)

224

he is a very experienced witness

prosecutor totally outclassed

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:54 AM (zOTsN)

225 This prosecutor is a stooge.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Medical Examiner at July 09, 2013 09:54 AM (baL2B)

226 Tree branches now guilty.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Medical Examiner at July 09, 2013 09:55 AM (baL2B)

227 This prosecutor is a stooge. I resent your slur.

Posted by: Moe Howard at July 09, 2013 09:55 AM (IZTTb)

228 The state has to be throwing this case on purpose. Claim to the media they did the best they could, but it's like everyone gathered around the prosecutor's desk and agreed to tank the case.

Posted by: Dax at July 09, 2013 01:49 PM (gUYGX)

--------------------------------------------

I've had my suspicions. Perhaps they're doing this to keep their houses from being burned down and their families safe.

Still no excuse for putting a person (Zimmerman) through something like this.

This is an attempted MFM lynching.

Posted by: Soona at July 09, 2013 09:55 AM (MCKTB)

229 Repubs in NYC, if they had a clue, would run the hooker for office. Hey, at least off-books income wouldnt be touched and private business would skyrocket.

Posted by: Bigbys Cell Fingers at July 09, 2013 09:56 AM (NRb6x)

230 Bud, you really need to go back to the vaginal mesh class action suits.

Posted by: Dr. DiMaio at July 09, 2013 09:56 AM (fWAjv)

231 That makes no sense.

Of course, very little in this whole thing makes any sense, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but that makes no sense.

Even if you wanted the fig-leaf of "we tried" the correct way to do that was not have the trial at all. Then you can say all kinds of mean things about Z "allegedly" and never have to back them up.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 01:52 PM (/PCJa)

It makes sense if you look at how much political pressure was brought to bear on this case. There's no way the gov't was going to allow Z to walk without a trial. This is the local DA's response.

Posted by: Dax at July 09, 2013 09:56 AM (gUYGX)

232 So we're pretty seriously to "yeah... George Zimmerman was telling the absolute truth from moment one." And the true criminal in this- Al "egations-of-Rape" Sharpton- will get away scot-free, despite the injustice for which he is responsible.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 09:56 AM (/PCJa)

233 I love this doc....he is calmly making the DA look like an idiot.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 09:56 AM (X6akg)

234 the prosecutor does not know the facts as well as the ME because he had to prep with his own ME who is an idiot

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:56 AM (zOTsN)

235 This prosecutor irritates the snot out of me. I guess that is his tactic: to irritate.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Medical Examiner at July 09, 2013 09:57 AM (baL2B)

236 apologies to stooges everywhere

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 09:57 AM (zOTsN)

237 never forget this fucker put people in jail for their crimes and he walked for his.

Posted by: X at July 09, 2013 09:57 AM (KHo8t)

238 Now were getting stories of gardening injuries? Really?

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 09, 2013 09:57 AM (UypUQ)

239 DA going on and on about 'tree branches making abrasions'.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 09:57 AM (X6akg)

240 he is calmly making the DA look like an idiot. I am not. He's making himself look like an idiot. I'm merely assisting.

Posted by: ME Miao at July 09, 2013 09:58 AM (/PCJa)

241 Is the book the state's ME consulted with the book this ME wrote?

Posted by: buzzion at July 09, 2013 09:58 AM (LI48c)

242 occam, we don't really care who you or your fellow lefties sleep with or what drugs you do

We just don't think you have the sense to handle important stuff

Kind of like saying "my financial advisor has a $1000 a day coke habit and fucks anything that moves, but he's got a degree in finance"

Posted by: kbdabear at July 09, 2013 09:58 AM (/9IC1)

243 Andrew Branca, LOSD ‏@LawSelfDefense 58s #zimmermantrial #dimaio Di Maio struggling mightily with BDLR's childish ignorance. BDLR: "Why is the sky blue?" http://consiswww.lawofselfdefense.com

Posted by: Ma Bell at July 09, 2013 09:58 AM (RLdcX)

244 The true criminal is NBC and co. And Corey. Sharpton is just a scorpion.

Posted by: eleven at July 09, 2013 09:58 AM (KXm42)

245 251 Is the book the state's ME consulted with the book this ME wrote? Posted by: buzzion at July 09, 2013 01:58 PM (LI48c) Yes....one of 4 books this ME has written.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 09:58 AM (X6akg)

246 I resent your slur.

Posted by: Moe Howard at July 09, 2013 01:55 PM (IZTTb)

I resemble your slur. Resist me much.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Medical Examiner at July 09, 2013 09:58 AM (baL2B)

247 I don't see why you all are so down on the DA.

Posted by: Hamilton Burger at July 09, 2013 09:58 AM (IZTTb)

248 Ah ha! That fucker TreeBeard did it!!

Posted by: RWC at July 09, 2013 09:58 AM (fWAjv)

249 He's just crying cause he got caught.

Posted by: Bosk at July 09, 2013 10:00 AM (n2K+4)

250 The true criminal is NBC and co. And Corey. Sharpton is just a scorpion. I don't let him off that easily. Sharpton made his name by destroying (well, attempting to) an innocent man. And now he's done it again. I know he can't be, but Justice requires Sharpton be sued for slander.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 10:00 AM (/PCJa)

251 no way TM could've been on his back cause the shirt was hanging away from him when shot

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 10:00 AM (zOTsN)

252 243 I love this doc....he is calmly making the DA look like an idiot. Posted by: Tami at July 09, 2013 01:56 PM

We get that from our vantage point, but do the low information voters in the jury box?

Posted by: kbdabear at July 09, 2013 10:00 AM (/9IC1)

253

I would think the state is purposely throwing this case except for one thing - their own careers. Marcia Harding and Chris Darden didn't do too well after the OJ trial.

Who in the hell would want to be represented by these bozos? West's career on the other hand will skyrocket.

Posted by: Cheri at July 09, 2013 10:00 AM (G+Wff)

254 Repeat after me: "force equals mass times velocity."

Thank you.

Almost - force equals mass times the change in velocity.

Sorry.

Posted by: [/i] [/s] [/u] [/b] . An Observation at July 09, 2013 10:00 AM (ylhEn)

255 "Doctor, is it true that if I sneeze, fart, and burp at the same time, I'll die?"

Posted by: Croaker at July 09, 2013 10:00 AM (leNBy)

256 Almost - force equals mass times the change in velocity. Yes, it's been pointed out that I was quoting momentum, not force.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 10:01 AM (/PCJa)

257

Drs work was "lousy"

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 10:02 AM (zOTsN)

258 "Hamilton Burger"

I had to look that one up.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 09, 2013 10:02 AM (Fz2C7)

259 Boom.

@AP: Illinois legislature votes to override veto and allow concealed guns in public places: http://apne.ws/186w8Zv

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 09, 2013 10:03 AM (xvZYu)

260

I thinks this ME describes things very clearly, which is helpful to the LI jurist.

States ME was incomprehensible

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 10:03 AM (zOTsN)

261

I think old Elliot shoulda brought a big old onion with him and started carving it up right there.

It could have done two things, masked the stench from the gnarly weirdo interviewing him, and it could have made him cry.

He is the Jerry Sandusky of modern politics.

Posted by: Rev dr John Boehner at July 09, 2013 10:03 AM (raGXo)

262

265 "Doctor, is it true that if I sneeze, fart, and burp at the same time, I'll die?"

Yes, but only if you just ate Pop Rocks and drank a coke.

Posted by: Dax at July 09, 2013 10:04 AM (gUYGX)

263 Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2013 02:03 PM (xvZYu) I'm still saying that if I were an R in the Illinois leg, I'd have fought for Constitutional Carry, since all that would have required was no bill at all.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 10:04 AM (/PCJa)

264 Brilliant observation: "You deal with them after they are dead."

All but Diamond Eugene are a GSC of 15. I beg to differ in my experience as a ME, y'all.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Medical Examiner at July 09, 2013 10:05 AM (baL2B)

265

Ashley Dupree has an eight month year old kid now. What is ironic is that the kid won't be able to pull up a sex tape of their mom like the Kardashian kid or the Pamela Anderson kid or any potential kids of Paris Hilton.

They will have to settle for articles describing its mother as a whore.

Posted by: polynikes at July 09, 2013 10:05 AM (m2CN7)

266 are we OT yet?

Local radio reporting that since CO passed a civil unions law, gay divorce is on the increase

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 10:05 AM (8sCoq)

267 admits GZ could have hit TM and had no bruising on his knuckles

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 10:05 AM (zOTsN)

268 Current equals electromotive force divided by resistance. H8Rs.

Posted by: George Orwell mixing his formula metaphors at July 09, 2013 10:05 AM (IZTTb)

269 Almost - force equals mass times the change in velocity.

Sorry.

Posted by: . An Observation at July 09, 2013 02:00 PM (ylhEn)

----------------------------------------------------

Okay, masterminds. What's the equation that determines change in velocity?

Posted by: Soona at July 09, 2013 10:06 AM (MCKTB)

270 275 Ashley Dupree has an eight month year old kid now. What is ironic is that the kid won't be able to pull up a sex tape of their mom like the Kardashian kid or the Pamela Anderson kid or any potential kids of Paris Hilton.

They will have to settle for articles describing its mother as a whore.

Posted by: polynikes at July 09, 2013 02:05 PM (m2CN7)

You can't show my mommy being a slut because she was on Girls Gone Wild before she was 18. HA!

Posted by: Ashley Dupree's child at July 09, 2013 10:06 AM (LI48c)

271 no way TM could've been on his back cause the shirt was hanging away from him when shot

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 02:00 PM (zOTsN)

A passing black-hole in the sky that night could have briefly revered the affect of gravity in the condominium's common area.

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 09, 2013 10:07 AM (UypUQ)

272

again

asking questions he does not know the answer to and getting burned

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 10:07 AM (zOTsN)

273

He's addicted to power, he has to have power in the worst possible way. Sort of like how he had to have sex in the worst possible way.

Now that I think about it, it really is the same, isn't it?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at July 09, 2013 10:07 AM (hLRSq)

274 Local radio reporting that since CO passed a civil unions law, gay divorce is on the increase

One can only endure so many violent arguments about the pattern on the cushions and drapes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 09, 2013 10:07 AM (8ZskC)

275

Waiting for BDLR to pull the "What color tie am I wearing Doctor?"

turns around, fumbles about

"Wrong sir. I'm not WEARING a tie!"

Posted by: RWC at July 09, 2013 10:07 AM (fWAjv)

276 Local radio reporting that since CO passed a civil unions law, gay divorce is on the increase Color me stunned. admits GZ could have hit TM and had no bruising on his knuckles From a purely medical standpoint- sure. From a defense standpoint? No way he could have hit TM with any real effectiveness, regardless of any bruising. Besides, isn't up to the prosecutor to prove that GZ *did* hit TM? Not just "well, it could have happened..."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 10:07 AM (/PCJa)

277 I'm still saying that if I were an R in the Illinois leg, I'd have fought for Constitutional Carry, since all that would have required was no bill at all.

Posted by: AllenG

Understood, but good / perfection / enemy yadda-yadda.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 09, 2013 10:07 AM (xvZYu)

278

Just heard that. Let the games begin!

Posted by: Infidel at July 09, 2013 10:08 AM (O/fK8)

279

Okay, masterminds. What's the equation that determines change in velocity?

easy

black democratium

Posted by: Thunderb at July 09, 2013 10:08 AM (zOTsN)

280 Oh no, Z is left handed..

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 09, 2013 10:08 AM (wR+pz)

281 Local radio reporting that since CO passed a civil unions law, gay divorce is on the increase So have rentals of that old Astaire movie "The Gay Divorcee."

Posted by: George Orwell mixing his formula metaphors at July 09, 2013 10:08 AM (IZTTb)

282 Oh no, Z is left handed.. ??? Well that turns it all around. He must be guilty: left = sinister. What relevance does his handedness have? Is this prosecutor really that stupid?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 10:09 AM (/PCJa)

283

I can't imagine what it does to a kid's psyche to know that just about everybody you meet has seen / fapped to your mother's vajayjay.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 09, 2013 10:09 AM (zF6Iw)

284 Maybe he's crying because he misses the girls?

Posted by: Mr Pee Pee at July 09, 2013 10:10 AM (DrC22)

285 Repubs in NYC, if they had a clue, would run the hooker for office. Hey, at least off-books income wouldnt be touched and private business would skyrocket. Posted by: Bigbys Cell Fingers at July 09, 2013 01:56 PM (NRb6x) You know that the Madam is running against him right?

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 09, 2013 10:10 AM (VtjlW)

286 acceleration=pushing the gas pedal.

Posted by: eleven at July 09, 2013 10:11 AM (KXm42)

287 DA trying to say that because Z had a bloody nose and he was laying down, the blood would go down his throat making it hard for him to speak or scream......

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 10:11 AM (X6akg)

288 Is this prosecutor really that stupid?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 09, 2013 02:09 PM (/PCJa)

It really, REALLY seems that way.

Posted by: RWC at July 09, 2013 10:12 AM (fWAjv)

289
Okay, masterminds. What's the equation that determines change in velocity?

Change in velocity equals starting velocity minus ending velocity. Actually the correct force equation is force equals mass times acceleration - where acceleration is the change in velocity (see above) divided by the amount of time it takes to change.

Posted by: [/i] [/s] [/u] [/b] . An Observation at July 09, 2013 10:12 AM (ylhEn)

290 Good grief, this DA is all over the place.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 10:12 AM (X6akg)

291 Not OT
Regarding vaginas and dicks....

Thrust = Force = [(mV)₂-(mV)₁)]/(t₂-t₁₎

Posted by: RioBravo at July 09, 2013 10:12 AM (eEfYn)

292 What relevance does his handedness have? Southpaws are better shots.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2013 10:12 AM (ABRnS)

293 290 Oh no, Z is left handed.. Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 09, 2013 02:08 PM (wR+pz) Shoots right handed as testified by his friend that taught him to shoot.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 10:13 AM (X6akg)

294 The prosecutor has proven beyond a reasonable doubt he is a 1st degree retard.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at July 09, 2013 10:14 AM (SzAZ7)

295 I smell the desperation. They are going nowhere.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 09, 2013 10:14 AM (wR+pz)

296 My pursuit of happiness equals your taxes times your neighbors taxes divided by roughly 47 percent.

Posted by: RWC at July 09, 2013 10:14 AM (fWAjv)

297 The only thing the prosecution needs is to call John Edwards and have him channel Trayvon. "Creepy ass cracker shot me when I just offered to shine his shoes."

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 09, 2013 10:15 AM (S6kqj)

298
Note to Prosecutor.

Creating reasonable doubt is the Defenses job. If you're creating reasonable doubt.... you're doing it wrong.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 09, 2013 10:15 AM (nELVU)

299 I read that some gays got married in one state, lived in another, and could not get divorced because the state of their residence did not have gay marriage let alone day divorce. As far as dividing up property, I suspect they all had pre-nups. But the state that married them would not grant a divorce because they were not residents.

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 10:15 AM (vDjkK)

300 I can't imagine what it does to a kid's psyche to know that just about everybody you meet has seen / fapped to your mother's vajayjay.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 09, 2013 02:09 PM (zF6Iw)

Agree, except I couldn't fapp to the Paris Hilton tape if I wanted to. I've never seen a more disinterested person appearing totally disconnected from the sex act being performed on her. At least I've haven't been a position to see the same look on someone's face.

Posted by: polynikes at July 09, 2013 10:16 AM (m2CN7)

301 Regarding vaginas and dicks.... Thrust = Force = [(mV)2-(mV)1)]/(t2-t1) I was told there would be no fucking math.

Posted by: George Orwell mixing his formula metaphors at July 09, 2013 10:16 AM (IZTTb)

302 That's why you use a vac-u-seal food saver to collect biological evidence dammit!

Posted by: RWC at July 09, 2013 10:17 AM (fWAjv)

303 Illinois legislature votes to override veto and allow concealed guns in public places:

That means none of the Lefty Governors amendments to it. It also means concealed carry in Chicago. Boom! Eventual end of thug politics there. Thug politics, at its core, requires union goons to shove people around and intimidate them - much harder to do that in places where the intended victim might be armed. The idea for gun control originally came from Unions - who wanted effective goons - around 1900.

Posted by: [/i] [/s] [/u] [/b] . An Observation at July 09, 2013 10:17 AM (ylhEn)

304 I smell the desperation. They are going nowhere.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 09, 2013 02:14 PM (wR+pz)

------------------------------------------------

The US DOJ has told them to drag this trial out until the NAALCP covention in Orlando. Can't have riots without lots and lots of people.

Posted by: Soona at July 09, 2013 10:18 AM (MCKTB)

305

A passing black-hole in the sky that night could have briefly revered the affect of gravity in the condominium's common area.

That's rac- -

Oh, never mind.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 09, 2013 10:19 AM (zF6Iw)

306 Nood up. Traytable.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2013 10:19 AM (ABRnS)

307 Does the DA get paid by the hour or words?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 09, 2013 10:21 AM (wR+pz)

308 83 Spitzer looks like an evil rodent, kind of like Valerie Jarrett. If those two ever bred...gah. Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2013 01:25 PM (lVPtV) What would be great would be a talk show with Spitzer and Carville.

Posted by: Mr Pee Pee at July 09, 2013 10:21 AM (DrC22)

309 oh, no he's left handed, error.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 09, 2013 10:22 AM (wR+pz)

310 318 83 Spitzer looks like an evil rodent, kind of like Valerie Jarrett. If those two ever bred...gah. Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2013 01:25 PM (lVPtV) Is Valerie into "barebackin'"?

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 10:23 AM (vDjkK)

311 You know, if the whore's vagina was a gun, he'd either be Governor or dead.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 09, 2013 10:30 AM (dSE0q)

312

FYI, Kinetic engergy, the stuff that does the damage, is one half mass times the square of the velocity.

You're welcome.

Posted by: A Physicist at July 09, 2013 10:32 AM (YAGV/)

313

Oddly enough, were I given the choice between this assclown and the madam as comptroller, I'd vote for the madam. At least she ran a business and can spot talent.

/silver lining

But to be honest, New York City deserves everything that happens to it.

Posted by: sans_sheriff at July 09, 2013 10:35 AM (Lljg2)

314 The same stupid women who believe men liked any song by "Bread", or that Romney's 'binders full of women' was sexist, or that he really will leave his wife, or their private texts won't end up on textsfromlastnight.com ... . That's the target audience, because they're idiots and they vote. . Mew

Posted by: acat at July 09, 2013 10:42 AM (4UkCP)

315 I love Krebscycles. On a hot day, cherry is my favorite flavor.

Posted by: Joe Bidenopolous at July 09, 2013 11:32 AM (eHIJJ)

316 Did somebody summon me?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars[/i][/b][/s] at July 09, 2013 12:21 PM (HsTG8)

317 19 I remember when the old man used to pull off his belt and say, "I'll give you something to cry about." He meant it. Posted by: Fritz at July 09, 2013 01:13 PM (UzPAd) Oh, yeah! I heard that many times.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars[/i][/b][/s] at July 09, 2013 12:24 PM (HsTG8)

318 "can't know his heart" Libs are right, we can't, that's why we judge by his fruits....and they are pretty rotten. Case closed.

Posted by: Alinsky at July 09, 2013 12:43 PM (fSLdp)

319 Spitzer is Princeton '81, a year behind me. I met him a couple times, as he was friend-of-a-friend. I knew he was a prick when he was 18.

Posted by: Chester White at July 09, 2013 03:08 PM (dLF+N)

320 Maybe it's not the same thing, but Charlie Manson never cried. Not once.

Posted by: Banjo at July 09, 2013 07:23 PM (lMtGt)

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