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November 18, 2013

Federal Government Spent $4.4 Billion On State Insurance Exchanges
— Ace

14 websites -- $4.4 billion dollars. Only the US Government can spend that much money and produce nothing but a heaping pile of failure.

Quick, let's put them in charge of everything.

The Obama administration gave states roughly $4.4 billion in taxpayer dollars to set up their own ObamaCare websites, according to a new analysis, in the latest revelation about the faucet of federal spending switched on by the 2010 passage of the health care law.
Some of the states even took federal money, then decided to let the federal site handle enrollment.

So it was just another Obama slush fund.

Meanwhile, as regards the several hundred million dollar healthcare.gov pile of rancid garbage, Obama's team has a great idea: Let's just skip the website altogether, and tell people to contact insurers directly.

On a mission to help people bypass distressed health-insurance websites, the Obama administration said it may allow big insurers to directly sign up those who qualify for tax credits, The Wall Street Journal reported Monday.
Currently, customers who are eligible for subsidies can get them only when purchasing coverage on the exchanges.

Wow, sounds like another deployment of Unilateral Executive Lawmaking.

As you probably know from @benk84, Obama has a hot new way to define a 100% functioning website: as an 80% functioning website.

he Washington Post reported on Sunday that the Obama administration will consider the new online marketplace a success if 80 percent of users can buy health insurance. That is absurd. First, it's another broken promise. The president and his advisers responded to the disastrous rollout last month by vowing to deliver an Amazon.com-quality website by the end of November. (If history remembers President Obama for one thing, other than his barrier-breaking 2008 election, it might be the outsized and unmet expectations that paved the path of his presidency.) Second, in what other line of work is 20 percent failure considered a success? If one out of every five meals served by a restaurant is inedible, the joint goes out of business.

This is similar to, but more generous than, his previous guarantee that 100% of you could keep your insurance if you liked your insurance, which actually meant about 40% of you could.

That could mean that 1 million of the 5 million of the people who've lost their insurance due to Obamacare are prevented from getting new insurance altogether, at any price. They won't even be able to pay the sticker-shock prices that everyone else will be subjected to.

Update: An Administration official says 80% functionality is the best case scenario.

Update via @elliosch.

Posted by: Ace at 02:12 PM | Comments (215)
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1 *cough cough* *climbs up on pedestal* *points at LIVs* FUCKING. TOLD. YOU. SO.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 18, 2013 02:14 PM (GEICT)

2 Why not just build one site and then clone it and give it to each state (or something on the way to a full site)?

Posted by: @ParisParamus at November 18, 2013 02:14 PM (/vlep)

3 All that sweet,sweet Federal money is why Federalism is long gone.

Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2013 02:15 PM (zqvg6)

4 We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House

Posted by: John McCain at November 18, 2013 02:16 PM (Pr6hk)

5 Why not just build one site and then clone it and give it to each state (or something on the way to a full site)? Because not only does the ACA federalize health insurance, it also keeps insurance policies segregated by state.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at November 18, 2013 02:16 PM (QF8uk)

6 80 percent of our flights land safely without major mechanical problems.

Posted by: Aeroflot at November 18, 2013 02:17 PM (8ZskC)

7 Yeah what #1 said

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2013 02:17 PM (HVff2)

8 Is this the plan where we hand a blank check to the insurers and let them estimate subsidies then pocket any over estimate and make up for any under estimates? Yeah, that'll end well.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at November 18, 2013 02:17 PM (a8eFL)

9 Guess we have to spend our way to good health too.

Posted by: NCKate at November 18, 2013 02:18 PM (w7CQT)

10 ....The Aristocrats!

Posted by: jakeman at November 18, 2013 02:18 PM (vH4YP)

11 Don't look at me. I was only in charge of the Stimulus.

Posted by: Sheriff Joe Biden at November 18, 2013 02:18 PM (ALOVq)

12 The difference between 0% and 100% is only, um, 10%.

Posted by: Barry Bama at November 18, 2013 02:18 PM (rCS6C)

13 I love the smell of desperation in the evening.

Posted by: COL Kilmore at November 18, 2013 02:18 PM (UmpK8)

14 The natural evolution of capitalism is squeezing the disciples of socialism out of their diapers. But, I doubt they'll take their first step.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2013 02:18 PM (IXrOn)

15 Hey, Ace Can you please give Andrea Marcotte a little slap down?-figuratively speaking, I mean. She's stuck on stupid again: "Taking antibiotics terminates more life than an abortion. One organism < the billions you kill with antibiotics."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2013 02:19 PM (23Kgq)

Are any of us truly surprised that this thing is over-budget, under-performing, over-due, and, entirely too complicated?

Really?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 18, 2013 02:19 PM (LA7Cm)

17 People against government are troglodytes caring only about "money". Money that we can print endlessly!

Posted by: Paul Krugman at November 18, 2013 02:19 PM (aN78T)

18 Maybe TFG & his death panels wii reinvent cash for clunkers for folks with pre-existing conditions. I'm not surprised about the low bang for the buck. Fuck you democrats who voted for this boondoggle

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2013 02:20 PM (HVff2)

19 As you probably know from @benk84, Obama has a hot new way to define a 100% functioning website: an 80% functioning website.

Why don't they get a Wheel of Fortune and Insurance? It would put the excitement back into buying health insurance.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2013 02:20 PM (8ZskC)

You'd think we'd be thanking him.

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2013 02:20 PM (ALOVq)

21 Great post. We should definitely spend more, and we will! I promise.

Posted by: President For Life Obama at November 18, 2013 02:21 PM (aN78T)

22 Wow, sounds like another deployment of Unilateral Executive Lawmaking.

It's what I do best. I pull new laws right out of my arse and impose them upon the masses!

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at November 18, 2013 02:21 PM (Dwehj)

23 In positive news, Mrs. Jakeman's health insurance only went up $380 a month for 2014. Consider me thrilled. Thanks, ObamaCare!

Posted by: jakeman at November 18, 2013 02:21 PM (vH4YP)

24 btw, all the pics I saw of Marcotte she looks like Capt Kangaroo -- exact same haircut

Posted by: soothsayer at November 18, 2013 02:21 PM (AoGUl)

25 This a glowing example of one of our great public/private partnerships.

Posted by: brick obama at November 18, 2013 02:22 PM (bMeMt)

26 They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time.

Posted by: Brian Fantana at November 18, 2013 02:22 PM (HgfyP)

27 Shit we could have been to Mars now with that kind of money.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 18, 2013 02:22 PM (b9K4P)

28 WTF?

Posted by: Xi Jinping, president of China at November 18, 2013 02:22 PM (aN78T)

29 Posted by: jakeman at November 18, 2013 06:21 PM (vH4YP) Good gosh! Sounds like it's time to find an entirely new area of the country to live in.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at November 18, 2013 02:22 PM (a8eFL)

30 3 All that sweet,sweet Federal money is why Federalism is long gone. Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2013 06:15 PM (zqvg6) See seatbelts, DUI, free lunch at school, et al.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 18, 2013 02:23 PM (UmpK8)

31 I foresee silos filled with rotting birth control pills.

Posted by: pharmaceutical hedging at November 18, 2013 02:23 PM (IXrOn)

32 When I said that nothing would happen in your mouth, we all knew that my promise included a 25% error rate.

Posted by: wooga at November 18, 2013 02:23 PM (KcMHw)

33 Jeebus, there sure is a whole chitload of math in this post... And Barky hates math.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at November 18, 2013 02:23 PM (97jsO)

34 27 Shit we could have been to Mars now with that kind of money. Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 18, 2013 06:22 PM (b9K4P) Do the math, we could've insured each & every American for that kind of money

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2013 02:23 PM (HVff2)

35 How many cops and teachers could we have hired with that money???

Posted by: buzz at November 18, 2013 02:23 PM (i27M5)

36 Federal Government Spent $4.4 Billion On State Insurance Exchanges

That's less than an hour of printing press operation.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2013 02:23 PM (8ZskC)

37 pats pockets and smiles; All the President's cronies.

Posted by: willow at November 18, 2013 02:23 PM (nqBYe)

I read about the risk corridor provision in the law. The evil insurance companies will get reimbursed for policies lost due to Obamacare? Have I got that right? So the feds will reimburse the insurance companies at the tax payers expense for all of the cancelled policies due to O-care.

Insanity.

Posted by: Cheri at November 18, 2013 02:23 PM (G+Wff)

39 Haha, so far then we've paid roughly $5B (state exchanges $4.4B + ~$600M healthcare.gov) to enroll 106k people. That's (drumroll please) $47k per enrollee. Seems legit.

Posted by: Ted Danson at November 18, 2013 02:24 PM (MarbK)

40 So about 1.625 million dollars for everyone who looked at a plan. Money well spent.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 18, 2013 02:24 PM (jucos)

41 Yes we can't!

Posted by: Do Anything Right at November 18, 2013 02:24 PM (Ctc7M)

If one out of every five meals served by a restaurant is inedible, the joint goes out of business.

*****

Ahem.

Posted by: Apple-bees at November 18, 2013 02:24 PM (N/Sup)

43 Batting average is probably the only other measure where a 70% failure rate means you are very good at your job.

Posted by: FishUnderTheSea at November 18, 2013 02:24 PM (rtZ6u)

44 Hey, I smoke crack and chase hookers around my office, but I reduced spending and increased effectiveness of services in Toronto. So, what's worse: an export smoker who can't manage a dinner orde or a crack smoking piece of crap like me, who manages the hell out of bureaucrats?

Posted by: Rob Ford at November 18, 2013 02:24 PM (aN78T)

45 The money they're gonna spend fixing it ought to be a real laffer .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 18, 2013 02:24 PM (XWw96)

46 >>>Wow, sounds like another deployment of Unilateral Executive Lawmaking.<<<

One Branch to rule them all,
One Branch to fine them,
One Branch to bring them all,
And under Obamacare, bind them.

Posted by: The Dark Lord at November 18, 2013 02:25 PM (auEor)

47 With all that money, the entire country could be on the plans the WH and Congress enjoy.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2013 02:25 PM (IXrOn)

48 Shit we could have been to Mars now with that kind of money.

I could get my picture taken next to the flag.

Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee (D)umbass at November 18, 2013 02:25 PM (8ZskC)

49 Even we could not make this up.

Posted by: The Onion at November 18, 2013 02:25 PM (Ctc7M)

50 27 Shit we could have been to Mars now with that kind of money.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 18, 2013 06:22 PM (b9K4P)

****

And back!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 18, 2013 02:25 PM (N/Sup)

51 Because not only does the ACA federalize health insurance, it also keeps insurance policies segregated by state.

Gee, the one time Democrats believe in federalism is wrong time? Shirley that could be created something centrally and then given it to the states...

Posted by: @ParisParamus at November 18, 2013 02:26 PM (/vlep)

52 heaping pile of failure.
xxx

HOT heaping pile of failure.

FIFY.

Posted by: Shibumi at November 18, 2013 02:26 PM (25HWz)

53 >>If one out of every five meals served by a restaurant is inedible, the joint goes out of business.

*****

Ahem.

Posted by: Apple-bees

No, no, I got this.

Posted by: Arby's [/i] [/b] at November 18, 2013 02:26 PM (rSTkb)

54 If you build it, they will come!

Posted by: Barry Ray Kinsella at November 18, 2013 02:26 PM (PLOz8)

So only 40 percent of new cars driven off of the lot will break down and not run? Wow!

Posted by: Cheri at November 18, 2013 02:26 PM (G+Wff)

56 A frend in Arkansas went to the site, spent hours inputting but never got anywhere. Later he read soemwhere that he could just call a healthcare company directly for insurance. He called Blue Cross Blue Shield. They asked if he had used the site. He said yes. They said, "then we can't help you."

Posted by: Meremortal at November 18, 2013 02:26 PM (1Y+hH)

57 One Branch to rule them all, One Branch to fine them, One Branch to bring them all, And under Obamacare, bind them. Posted by: The Dark Lord at November 18, 2013 06:25 PM (auEor) *stands* *slow clap* Come on people, show the respect that deserves.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 18, 2013 02:27 PM (GEICT)

58 *poses, smiles primly into the camera*

Posted by: Kathy Sebelius at November 18, 2013 02:27 PM (oFCZn)

59
These simpletons should simple let Amazon dot com complete the process and sell insurance with our on-line site. There is no question Amazon wouldn't fuck it up.

Posted by: Jeff Bezos at November 18, 2013 02:27 PM (pJF+c)

60 If you like your 100%, you can keep 80%.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 18, 2013 02:27 PM (aDwsi)

61 80 percent success rate? That'll do

Posted by: Aeroflot at November 18, 2013 02:27 PM (aTXUx)

62 It just dawned on me in the last few days that the whole purpose of "ObamaCare' is to get people addicted to federal entitlements. In other words, it's yet more Cloward-Piven, this time on steroids. I'd been sort of wondering: if people (as is now confirmed) can just buy insurance directly through the insurer anyway, then what is the purpose of healthcare.gov? I mean, the ACA didn't eliminate private insurance -- there is no real thing as "ObamaCare," because it's still the private insurance companies that you're getting insurance from. And even though it was ultra-obvious from the get-go it felt like a revelation when I realized that the only reason anyone would go to healthcare.gov would be to get that sweet sweet free subsidy money, since one could simply skip healthcar.gov entirely and just call up the insurer if you didn't care about the subsidy. Obama is like a heroin dealer trying to get the ENTIRE COUNTRY addicted to his "drug," which is handouts from the government. And like all good dealers, it's free -- at first. But once you're hooked -- the bill comes due. Obama's flavor of "progressivism" is a special specific kind -- the Cloward-Piven Road to Total Government Control. Mind you, not all progressivism is about this. But the Obama wing has seized the Left, and now this flavor blots out everything else.

Posted by: zombie at November 18, 2013 02:27 PM (+cx5n)

63 He called Blue Cross Blue Shield. They asked if he had used the site. He said yes. They said, "then we can't help you."

Kafka, you magnificent bastard!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2013 02:27 PM (8ZskC)

64 45 The money they're gonna spend fixing it ought to be a real laffer . Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 18, 2013 06:24 PM (XWw96) I read real "later." Sadly, true.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 18, 2013 02:27 PM (UmpK8)

65 I bet a class action against 404Care would be worth billions to the lawyer with the balls to pull it off. Of course, you'd start with the full understanding that you'd be audited every year for the rest of your life. But the payoff would be awesome.

Posted by: Peter Angelo's at November 18, 2013 02:27 PM (aN78T)

66 Now see here. Youz can all agree to this wonderful idea of mine, or youz can get a real good understanding of what I really mean when I say:
"If you like your knees unbroken, you can keep your knees unbroken. Period."

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama in a pin-stripe suit, fedora cocked to the side at November 18, 2013 02:28 PM (KLy64)

67 That's some good stuff.

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2013 02:28 PM (ALOVq)

68 Good gosh! Sounds like it's time to find an entirely new area of the country to live in. Nah, life in Arizona is cheap till we can retire on that sweet, sweet yacht in the Caribbean. Of course, spending $4700 more a year on healthcare is $4700 that doesn't go into teh retirement fundz (or anything else we'd rather spend it on). Unintended consequences and all that.

Posted by: jakeman at November 18, 2013 02:28 PM (vH4YP)

69 Not even a B+ .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 18, 2013 02:28 PM (XWw96)

70 Sex Panthercare: 100% effective 80% of the time!

Posted by: Barack Oburgama at November 18, 2013 02:28 PM (7/um6)

71 If one out of every five meals served by a restaurant is inedible, the joint goes out of business.

*****

Ahem.

Posted by: Apple-bees

No, no, I got this.

Posted by: Arby's at November 18, 2013 06:26 PM (rSTkb)

_________________________

YO! Over here!

Posted by: Golden Corral at November 18, 2013 02:29 PM (jucos)

72 I read about the risk corridor provision in the law. The evil insurance companies will get reimbursed for policies lost due to Obamacare? Have I got that right? So the feds will reimburse the insurance companies at the tax payers expense for all of the cancelled policies due to O-care. Insanity. Posted by: Cheri at November 18, 2013 06:23 PM (G+Wff) Out: Pyramid Scheme In: Escher Scheme* *aka cannibalism

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2013 02:29 PM (IXrOn)

73 $4.4 billion - rounding error

Posted by: Turbo Tax Timmy at November 18, 2013 02:29 PM (Pr6hk)

74 Come on you guys, when Peyton Manning completes 80 percent of his passes you worship him

Posted by: King Barry the Almost Perfect at November 18, 2013 02:30 PM (aTXUx)

75 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 18, 2013 06:27 PM (GEICT) Yeah I laughed and a bunch of students looked sideways at me

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at November 18, 2013 02:30 PM (a8eFL)

76 Four years and billions of dollars! Thank God Japan surrendered before the spending barreled out of control.

Posted by: MTF at November 18, 2013 02:30 PM (aN78T)

77 Yeah these brake pads work 80% of the time but c'mon! We both know you're a risk taker! You'll love these things! They'll keep you on your toes.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 18, 2013 02:30 PM (oFCZn)

78
Quit bitching and just do as you're told bitches.

Posted by: Val Jar at November 18, 2013 02:30 PM (pJF+c)

79 Oh, and I'm not going to add "Glenn Beck was right" to my comment #62, because I was blogging about Cloward-Piven before Beck ever mentioned it -- in fact, I kind of half suspect he learned about it from me. So yes, Beck was right, but then again so was I.

Posted by: zombie at November 18, 2013 02:30 PM (+cx5n)

NIB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_SGQycuXUw

Posted by: BLACK SABBATH at November 18, 2013 02:31 PM (ALOVq)

81 This would be a great time for the partay of opposition to showcase all the ridiculous expenses (monetary as well as the human toll) Obamacare has already burned through and the absolutely disgustingly small return on those investments. Mitch? John? Anyone?

Posted by: runningrn at November 18, 2013 02:31 PM (PLOz8)

82 Holee crap!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 18, 2013 02:32 PM (DmNpO)

83 71 If one out of every five meals served by a restaurant is inedible, the joint goes out of business.*****Ahem.Posted by: Apple-beesNo, no, I got this.
Posted by: Arby's at November 18, 2013 06:26 PM (rSTkb)
_________________________
YO! Over here! Posted by: Golden Corral at November 18, 2013 06:29 PM

Yeh, like drunks at 3 AM know the difference

Posted by: Denny's at November 18, 2013 02:32 PM (aTXUx)

84 I was way ahead of my time, but Obama is lots better at destroying this country than I ever was.

Posted by: Benedict Arnold at November 18, 2013 02:32 PM (aN78T)

85 80%? What could happen?

Posted by: Trojan condoms at November 18, 2013 02:32 PM (b0/Zr)

86 So the government could have just given everyone in the US $15 million. I think that would cover everyone's medical bills for life.

Posted by: Shonuff at November 18, 2013 02:32 PM (gaxli)

87 Mitch? John? Anyone? Posted by: runningrn at November 18, 2013 06:31 PM (PLOz

*Nervous whispers and giggling*

Posted by: The GOP at November 18, 2013 02:33 PM (oFCZn)

88 That's about $5 billion for 15 shit sandwiches... winning.. and the middle class

Posted by: Guy Fieri at November 18, 2013 02:33 PM (Pr6hk)

89 If one out of every five meals served by a restaurant is inedible, the
joint goes out of business.*****Ahem.Posted by: Apple-beesNo, no, I got
this.

Word.

Posted by: Pizza Hut at November 18, 2013 02:33 PM (Dwehj)

90 Homes raided, subpoenas issued targeting conservative groups and allies of Scott Walker http://tinyurl.com/lfwsvra

Posted by: ahem at November 18, 2013 02:33 PM (lKGzI)

91 80 percent of our overnight mail makes it to its destination overnight.

Posted by: The Post Office at November 18, 2013 02:33 PM (8ZskC)

92

ObamaCare is not the hill to fight on.

Posted by: Mitch The Bitch McConnell at November 18, 2013 02:34 PM (Pr6hk)

93 Re: Aeroflot. I once flew out of Dulles Airport to Scotland. I vowed never to fly them again. On take off the emergency row seats came unmoored and fell into the passengers behind them. It only got better from there. The smoking brakes and mad dash for the gate on landing was the icing on the cake.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 18, 2013 02:34 PM (jucos)

94 Fucking beta tests, how do they work?

Posted by: Insane Clown Preezy at November 18, 2013 02:34 PM (KSjsb)

95 Maybe Val-J should step in. Remember the great PBS Masterpiece Theater series "I, Claudius?" The episode in which the totes over-the-top Caligula, having gone way too far, is assassinated by his Praetorian Guard guys? Armored-up guy with bloody sword finds Claudius cowering in a room, says "hey, let's make THIS guy the emperor!" Val-J!

Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 18, 2013 02:34 PM (tmFlQ)

96 What does a guy in this administration have to do to get an indictment around here, huh?

Posted by: Scooter Libby at November 18, 2013 02:34 PM (2iHnw)

97 86 So the government could have just given everyone in the US $15 million. I think that would cover everyone's medical bills for life. No -- not quite. 4.4 billion / 330 million = $15 each

Posted by: zombie at November 18, 2013 02:34 PM (+cx5n)

98 Obamacare is the greatest fraud perpetrated in history. Bernie Madoff, Ivan Boeskey, Mike Milliken, the UK Whale: all rank amateurs and really should take note!

Posted by: runningrn at November 18, 2013 02:35 PM (PLOz8)

99
But 80% means the glass is four-fifths full!

Posted by: Typical Moonbat at November 18, 2013 02:35 PM (WN9m7)

100 So, the websites were set up by ACORN?

Posted by: Comrade Jesse, not welcoming our socialist overlords at November 18, 2013 02:35 PM (kkbgQ)

101 If one out of every five meals served by a restaurant is inedible, the joint goes out of business.*****Ahem.Posted by: Apple-beesNo, no, I got this. Posted by: Arby's at November 18, 2013 06:26 PM (rSTkb) _________________________ YO! Over here! Posted by: Golden Corral --------------------------------------- Oh, ours are edible alright..., no problem there...

Posted by: Jack-in-the-Box at November 18, 2013 02:35 PM (aDwsi)

102 Remember when Obama went on the Ellen show and danced with the host?

He's so dreamy.

Posted by: Jay Carney at November 18, 2013 02:35 PM (UzPAd)

103 So the government could have just given everyone in the US $15 million. I think that would cover everyone's medical bills for life.

Posted by: Shonuff at November 18, 2013 06:32 PM (gaxli)

*****

Someone's decimal point calibrator needs to be adjusted.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 18, 2013 02:35 PM (N/Sup)

104 This Obamacare thing is broker than us.

Posted by: Joe Theismann's Tibia and Fibula at November 18, 2013 02:35 PM (Pr6hk)

105 80% of bullets hit their target

Posted by: LAPD at November 18, 2013 02:35 PM (b0/Zr)

106 This would be a great time for the partay of opposition to showcase all the ridiculous expenses (monetary as well as the human toll) Obamacare has already burned through and the absolutely disgustingly small return on those investments. Mitch? John? Anyone?

Posted by: runningrn at November 18, 2013 06:31 PM (PLOz
____________________

*Lifts head off the bar*

*Looks around*

*Puts head back down*

Posted by: Jon Boner at November 18, 2013 02:35 PM (jucos)

107 That tingle up your leg are just the electrical shocks from the toy piano keys in your midway chicken cage.

Posted by: zombie at November 18, 2013 02:36 PM (+cx5n)

108 Obamacare is a great opportunity and everyone in the syndicate will have success with their shares.

Posted by: Milo Minderbinder at November 18, 2013 02:36 PM (7/um6)

109 Guys. This seems subeffective.

Posted by: Adam Smith at November 18, 2013 02:36 PM (Pr6hk)

110 79 He had the bigger megaphone as he was on Fox News at the time he first brought it up.

Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2013 02:37 PM (zqvg6)

111 42 If one out of every five meals served by a restaurant is inedible, the joint goes out of business.

*****

Ahem. Not if the ONLY place to eat is the FedGov. Starve of take the 20% shitty meal? You tell me...

Posted by: odd.... at November 18, 2013 02:37 PM (kduZC)

112 OT But the Dr. Who tapestry illustration in the sidebar caught my eye. Really quite wonderful.

Posted by: Tuna at November 18, 2013 02:37 PM (M/TDA)

113 Guys. This seems subeffective. *** Serious you guys.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 18, 2013 02:37 PM (DmNpO)

114 Obama once compared himself to Reagan. I've now become absolutely convinced that he really IS a conservative and he just got himself elected to do a real-world illustration of how bad liberalism is so we could put together the ridiculous liberal unicorn notions for a full generation. He figured that since people forgot that the government is the problem, they needed an object lesson. I truly cannot think of any other possible explanation for this. NO ONE could be this bad. Not possible. Nope.

Posted by: CR at November 18, 2013 02:37 PM (sJWQv)

115

Is that in ADDITION to the $600 million which was spent on the main Healthcare.gov site?

If so, that is 5 BILLION dollars spent before this thing opened for "business", and NOT ONE PERSON will be treated by these entities.

Tarring and feathering is too good for these thieves.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 18, 2013 02:37 PM (PZ6/M)

116 We serve a damn fine burger...... Seriously....... Fuck You!

Posted by: White Castle at November 18, 2013 02:37 PM (jucos)

117 Rand Paul on FNC

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 18, 2013 02:38 PM (ZPrif)

118 Damn near cheaper to just pay for the insurance for the 30 million that this whole cluserfuck was supposed to help.

Posted by: ET at November 18, 2013 02:39 PM (uGlk8)

119 Homes raided, subpoenas issued targeting conservative groups and allies of Scott Walker

http://tinyurl.com/lfwsvra

Posted by: ahem

Errr, major flaming skull story. Holy f.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 18, 2013 02:39 PM (rSTkb)

120 4.4 billion / 330 million = $15 each Posted by: zombie at November 18, 2013 06:34 PM (+cx5n) Birth control for everyone!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2013 02:39 PM (IXrOn)

121 4.4 billion? The reps for the code monkeys union earned their dues.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 18, 2013 02:39 PM (b9K4P)

122 I can hear Andrea Bitchell eagerly talking up the Cheney gay marriage tiff on NBC. Big fucking surprise there.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 18, 2013 02:39 PM (oFCZn)

123 I thought I was ballsy

Posted by: Charles Ponzi at November 18, 2013 02:39 PM (Pr6hk)

124 117 Rand Paul on FNC meh.... Let me know when Megyn has Maria B on....

Posted by: odd.... at November 18, 2013 02:40 PM (kduZC)

125 What difference does it make.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 18, 2013 02:41 PM (Pr6hk)

126 We serve a damn fine burger...Posted by: White Castle at November 18, 2013 06:37 PM

They certainly are my favorite!

Posted by: The Porcelain Bus at November 18, 2013 02:41 PM (Dwehj)

127 Don't worry... We'll make it up on volume...

Posted by: IPAB at November 18, 2013 02:43 PM (Pr6hk)

128

Come on you guys, when Peyton Manning completes 80 percent of his passes you worship him

***

Yeah, but we didn't pay him 4.4 billion dollars...

...er...wait a sec...

**double checks Peyton's contract**

...never mind. Disregard this comment

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 18, 2013 02:43 PM (N/Sup)

129 Ahem. Posted by: Apple-bees No kidding. I ordered a steak there once. It was hamburger meat, undercooked, covered with grease. I couldn't believe it. I literally couldn't believe it. I looked at the thing a couple of times, took a bite, and called the server back. I think I got some fried cheese sticks or something.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 18, 2013 02:43 PM (sByIH)

130 pubic spending is gonna be our downfall

Posted by: soothsayer at November 18, 2013 02:43 PM (AoGUl)

131 Rand Paul is a smart guy. Even when I disagree with him.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 18, 2013 02:43 PM (ZPrif)

132 Homes raided, subpoenas issued targeting conservative groups and allies of Scott Walker http://tinyurl.com/lfwsvra Posted by: ahem John Doe laws? WTH? It's the democrat's army of thugs. I have no words.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2013 02:44 PM (IXrOn)

133 #114- When more people realize what a total screw up Obama is as President, this is what will be trotted out as a excuse-not that liberalism has failed but that Obama was really a secret conservative.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2013 02:44 PM (23Kgq)

134 where do we go to get our money back?

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 18, 2013 02:44 PM (8JJ6O)

135 But skipping the website means you can't register them to vote (democrat), right? Also means your personal info isn't hany to the activists, er, plan navigators.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 18, 2013 02:45 PM (JRmiD)

136 Nice framing of the issue by Rand, freedom vs coercion. Standard libertarian framing, but he sells it well.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 18, 2013 02:45 PM (ZPrif)

137 "Re: Aeroflot. I once flew out of Dulles Airport to Scotland. I vowed never to fly them again. On take off the emergency row seats came unmoored and fell into the passengers behind them. It only got better from there. The smoking brakes and mad dash for the gate on landing was the icing on the cake."

In the mid-1970s, I did an Intourist tour of the USSR. My chief memory of Aeroflot was sitting down in my seat and attempting to buckle my seat belt - only to discover that my belt had two male buckles, rather than a male and a female. I thought briefly about getting off the plane, but that would mean being stuck in the middle of the Soviet Union, and that was the last thing I wanted. So I tied the two straps into a knot, and prayed.

And people ask me why I hate the Left.

Posted by: Brown Line at November 18, 2013 02:46 PM (WN9m7)

138 So he's gonna go with "Just don't use the website" aka, that 4.4 billion we blew we're just gonna chalk up to stimulus.

Posted by: Randy M at November 18, 2013 02:46 PM (vI8R6)

139 where do we go to get our money back?

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 18, 2013 06:44 PM (8JJ6O)

___________________

Ummmmmmm....... Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.... Ahhhhhhhhhh...... Hmmmmm

Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at November 18, 2013 02:46 PM (jucos)

140 pubic spending is gonna be our downfall

Posted by: soothsayer at November 18, 2013 06:43 PM (AoGUl)

***

Hey sooth- you forgot your Rob Ford sock.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 18, 2013 02:46 PM (N/Sup)

141 "Tarring and feathering is too good for these thieves."

I dunno. I think it's kinda cool!

Posted by: ACORN at November 18, 2013 02:47 PM (WN9m7)

142 Rand Paul is a smart guy. Even when I disagree with him. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 18, 2013 06:43 PM (ZPrif) The bar is low lately

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2013 02:47 PM (t3UFN)

143 "Seen as a welcome breath of fresh air when he took the throne, CaligulaÂ’s (12 Â– 41 AD / Reigned 37 Â– 41 AD) eccentricities soon became terrifying " We may get there yet with the man who would be god.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2013 02:48 PM (23Kgq)

144 Were it possible (and it might be, with sufficient cover by the Repubs) to just walk away from this, as they have from every other disaster, they might do so at this point. Just let the whole thing stumble on like a reeling, drunken hobo. Worked for everything else, stimulus, Benghazi, F and F, etc.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 18, 2013 02:49 PM (aDwsi)

145 In the mid-1970s, I did an Intourist tour of the USSR. My chief memory of Aeroflot was sitting down in my seat and attempting to buckle my seat belt - only to discover that my belt had two male buckles, rather than a male and a female.

A sure sign of capitalist sabotage in the Ministry of Female Seat Belt Buckles, comrade.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2013 02:50 PM (8ZskC)

146 In the mid-1970s, I did an Intourist tour of the USSR. My chief memory of Aeroflot was sitting down in my seat and attempting to buckle my seat belt - only to discover that my belt had two male buckles, rather than a male and a female. User error.

Posted by: Aeroflot[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 18, 2013 02:51 PM (sByIH)

147 "Dressed in silk robes and covered in jewels, Caligula pretended he was a god. He forced senators to grovel and kiss his feet and seduced their wives at dinner parties. " from a PBS website on the Roman Empire The Democratic Senators have already been kissing his feet and he has no interest in their wives, but I wouldn't put the rest of it past Obama

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2013 02:52 PM (23Kgq)

148

I did an Intourist tour of the USSR. My chief memory
of Aeroflot was sitting down in my seat and attempting to buckle my seat
belt - only to discover that my belt had two male buckles, rather than a
male and a female.

****

NTTAWWT

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 18, 2013 02:53 PM (N/Sup)

149 The plane had to make some sort of stop. It was an Aeroflot plane, which really looked it was being flown basically on vodka and high hopes.

Posted by: P.J. O'Rourke at November 18, 2013 02:53 PM (aDwsi)

150 If this was a private company, Client Nine would be in front of a television camera personally perp walking the fuck out of the CEO of the company that acted like this. You're welcome for that visual.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 18, 2013 02:53 PM (VtjlW)

151 British historians focus on Caligula's excesses because Caligula was straight. I'm not excusing Caligula, may he rot, just saying he gets the "special treatment".

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 18, 2013 02:54 PM (sByIH)

152 Rand insulting Chris Christie.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 18, 2013 02:55 PM (ZPrif)

153 Who are you to impose gender roles on hardware?

Posted by: Chelsea.Manning's.Pliers at November 18, 2013 02:55 PM (pj6Nr)

154 Rand insulting Chris Christie. Posted by: Flatbush --------------------- Pretty easy target.

Posted by: P.J. O'Rourke at November 18, 2013 02:56 PM (aDwsi)

155 Rand insulting Chris Christie.

Fat jokes?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2013 02:56 PM (8ZskC)

156 Math is not so hard. Hope + Change = Doom.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at November 18, 2013 02:56 PM (Dwehj)

157 British historians focus on Caligula's excesses because Caligula was straight. I'm not excusing Caligula, may he rot, just saying he gets the "special treatment". *** uh.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 18, 2013 02:57 PM (DmNpO)

158 Rand Paul. Don't trust him, never have. Fruit is to close to the tree. And why do I know that? My Dad died in 1984 and I am my dad.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2013 02:57 PM (t3UFN)

159 Rand insulting Chris Christie.

Posted by: Flatbush
---------------------

Pretty easy target.

Posted by: P.J. O'Rourke at November 18, 2013 06:56 PM (aDwsi)

__________________

Broad side of a Barn easy.....

Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at November 18, 2013 02:57 PM (jucos)

160 Rand insulting Chris Christie. *** C'mon! He said Christie is a Conservative.... if you apply a broad definition. BROAD!!!!!!!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 18, 2013 02:58 PM (DmNpO)

161 Rand says America should look for somebody who isn't a career politician (Christie has been). Asked if Christie is a conservative, Rand says that he's sure that, by some loose definitions of "conservative" that Christie probably is. He also says he's glad the Republican party has a big tent and accepts moderates like Christie.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 18, 2013 02:58 PM (ZPrif)

162 We may get there yet with the man who would be god.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2013 06:48 PM (23Kgq)

Obama sees himself as a Titan...even greater than the gods.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2013 02:58 PM (oJ5Fd)

163 Rand insulting Chris Christie. Posted by: Flatbush --------------------- Pretty easy target.
Posted by: P.J. O'Rourke at November 18, 2013 06:56 PM (aDwsi)
__________________
Broad side of a Barn easy.....

Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at November 18, 2013 06:57 PM (jucos)

______________________

Meaning that I probably couldn't pull it off.

Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at November 18, 2013 02:58 PM (jucos)

164 If this was a private company, Client Nine would be in front of a television camera personally perp walking the fuck out of the CEO of the company that acted like this. You're welcome for that visual. Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 18, 2013 06:53 PM (VtjlW) I'd rather the other half of that equation do the walking. In as little as possible.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 18, 2013 02:58 PM (GEICT)

165 the Republican party has a big tent --------------- Ruthless

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 18, 2013 02:59 PM (aDwsi)

166 Christie won't lower the ocean but he can affect the tides.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2013 02:59 PM (8ZskC)

167 Rand looks kind of dour.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 18, 2013 02:59 PM (ZPrif)

168 151 British historians focus on Caligula's excesses because Caligula was straight. According to ancient historians, the first Roman Emperor who didn't screw the odd boy or two was Claudius.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 18, 2013 03:00 PM (uhAkr)

169 And welcome the ambulance chaser

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2013 03:00 PM (t3UFN)

170 Christie won't lower the ocean but he can affect the tides.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2013 06:59 PM (8ZskC)

_____________________

Has he ever been to Guam?

Posted by: Hank Johnson at November 18, 2013 03:00 PM (jucos)

171 Well as long as we're discussing Greek Mythology, Obama needs some Nemesis after him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2013 03:01 PM (23Kgq)

172 Flatbush gets 'Adjective of the Day' Gold Star.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 18, 2013 03:01 PM (aDwsi)

173 /cue AmishDude..

Posted by: soothsayer at November 18, 2013 03:01 PM (AoGUl)

174 They've done studies, you know. Eighty percent of the time, The Internet Exchange Interface works every time.

Posted by: Barack Fantana at November 18, 2013 03:03 PM (eHIJJ)

175 "my belt had two male buckles" I did that once, but I had half the belt from the next seat. D'oh.

Posted by: Meremortal at November 18, 2013 03:03 PM (1Y+hH)

176 /cue AmishDude.. Why?

Posted by: AmishDude at November 18, 2013 03:04 PM (T0NGe)

177 "my belt had two male buckles" I saw that once on Fire Island?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2013 03:04 PM (t3UFN)

178 Did Rand say "loose" or "broad" I want to believe he said "broad"

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 18, 2013 03:07 PM (DmNpO)

179 That Capitol City article was very chilling.

srsly wth is this?

Posted by: willow at November 18, 2013 03:08 PM (nqBYe)

180 " Update: An Administration official says 80% functionality is the best case scenario."

To be sure. 40% will probably be the new 80%. It's a good thing the government has bars set by pulley. That way no one gets a hernia.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 18, 2013 03:08 PM (eHIJJ)

181 It continues, Â“Copies of two subpoenas weÂ’ve seen demand Â‘all memoranda, email . . . correspondence, and communicationsÂ’ both internally and between the subpoena target and some 29 conservative groups, including Wisconsin and national nonprofits, political vendors and party committees. The groups include the League of American Voters, Wisconsin Family Action, Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce, Americans for ProsperityÂ—Wisconsin, American Crossroads, the Republican Governors Association, Friends of Scott Walker and the Republican Party of Wisconsin.Â”
*capitol city proj--*

Posted by: willow at November 18, 2013 03:09 PM (nqBYe)

182 More likely is that one of the seatbelt factories missed a quota in female buckles so they just fudged it.

Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2013 03:10 PM (zqvg6)

183 Be a shame if anything happened to doos female buckles over dere

Posted by: Mafia at November 18, 2013 03:11 PM (t3UFN)

184 Is everybody stuck in traffic?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2013 03:12 PM (t3UFN)

185 My Dad died in 1984 and I am my dad.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2013 06:57 PM (t3UFN)

He was quite a drinker?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2013 03:12 PM (oJ5Fd)

186 Is everybody stuck in traffic?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2013 07:12 PM (t3UFN)

The GW Bridge is going to be a clusterfuck...supposedly through tomorrow's commute.

Pro Tip:

Stay away from NY City tomorrow.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2013 03:13 PM (oJ5Fd)

187 see? you were conjured up immediately when someone uttered 'ambulance chaser'

Posted by: soothsayer at November 18, 2013 03:14 PM (AoGUl)

188 Christie does have some gravitas!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 18, 2013 03:14 PM (N/Sup)

189 188 He has midgets orbiting him.

Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2013 03:15 PM (zqvg6)

190 #81 The partay of opposition is made up of the world's largest collection of Stumblebum McFucksticks. Can you imagine if the Repubs had passed 404Care? There'd be busloads of people who've lost their healthcare descending on DC every fucking day demanding that this shit change STAT. But the fucking country clubbers and crony capitalists can't be bothered. I'm not sure if Top Men had Reince Priebus gelded after he took the job or if he went there initially minus his nads.

Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPhone at November 18, 2013 03:16 PM (1BlLI)

191

"my belt had two male buckles"

***

If you turn one of them around backwards, and push firmly you can make it happen, it just doesn't seem natural.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 18, 2013 03:16 PM (N/Sup)

192 189 188 He has midgets orbiting him.

Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2013 07:15 PM (zqvg6)

****

Now THAT visual image made me smile!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 18, 2013 03:16 PM (N/Sup)

193 zombie: "Mind you, not all progressivism is about this. But the Obama wing has seized the Left, and now this flavor blots out everything else."

The Obama wing is The New Party which is to the Left of Democrat Party. So Progressivism actually is all about this. Obama is Alinsky/Cloward-Piven writ large. This has always been the case. It's just been a matter of inserting the plan without boiling the frog too quickly.

ObamaCare boiled too quickly.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 18, 2013 03:18 PM (eHIJJ)

194 So, 50 of the time, it works all the time?

Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2013 03:18 PM (MjnhI)

195 It will be borne out that this law is the biggest money laundering scheme since the first light from our new sun.

Posted by: Mr. Wizard at November 18, 2013 03:19 PM (MhA4j)

196 He was quite a drinker? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2013 07:12 PM (oJ5Fd) he owned 2 liquor stores. Do the math

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2013 03:20 PM (t3UFN)

197 "An Administration official says 80% functionality is the best case scenario."

Based on recent weeks' experience, I say 80% functionality is wishful thinking.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at November 18, 2013 03:20 PM (DMtT+)

198 British historians focus on Caligula's excesses because Caligula was straight.

You been sharing a pipe with Rob Ford, bro?

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 18, 2013 03:21 PM (Nsoq9)

199 "Christie does have some gravitas!"

Christie has so much gravitas that light bends going around him.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at November 18, 2013 03:21 PM (DMtT+)

200 He has midgets orbiting him. *** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5hyNVU66cs

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 18, 2013 03:22 PM (DmNpO)

201 I may be wrong, but don't "gravitas" and "gravy" come from the same root?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 18, 2013 03:23 PM (N/Sup)

202 new up

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 18, 2013 03:24 PM (Nsoq9)

203 Don't forget the cool billion California was given to market Obamacare.

That's 5.4 billion dollars thrown directly down the well.

These motherfuckers are crooks like I have never seen untold billions shifted from our wallets directly to the well connected.

I'd like to say something right about now but it would get me banned.

Motherfuckers. I piss on them!

Posted by: Kreplach at November 18, 2013 03:25 PM (hmUex)

204

Quick, let's put them in charge of everything.

Please let this be the straw that breaks the ~~fucking government's~~ camel's back.

Posted by: NC Ref at November 18, 2013 03:25 PM (Myqtp)

205 For the amount of money they spent on Obamacare and the website, we could have actually built an operational Death Star. Think about that for a minute.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at November 18, 2013 03:27 PM (DMtT+)

206 80 percent of our flights land safely without major mechanical problems. Posted by: Aeroflot I can't beat this so I won't even try. Let's talk about robots with soul.

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 18, 2013 03:31 PM (QupBk)

207 I can't get the 911 calls to play but reading the msm side of things which you know are going to be spun against him, I don't think the latest zimmerman brohaha is going anywhere. http://goo.gl/MnUdtg He really does need to leave the state.

Posted by: Comrade Jesse, not welcoming our socialist overlords at November 18, 2013 03:31 PM (kkbgQ)

208 $4.4B could have bought a new aircraft carrier, though not the planes to go on it.

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 18, 2013 03:32 PM (QupBk)

209 Caligula was pretty hated by the romans. Why else did they destroy his likeness plus skew him, his wife, and his daughter?

Posted by: Comrade Jesse, not welcoming our socialist overlords at November 18, 2013 03:36 PM (kkbgQ)

210 165 the Republican party has a big tent
---------------

Ruthless

Hey, I didn't say that. I'M Ruthless, not you. Don't be posting in my nic. Back off or pay the consequences. And don't forget, I'm Ruthless.

BTW, think Aeroflot was bad? I remember a couple of internal Chinese flights in the mid-80s on Russian-built planes that would make your balls seek refuge somewhere behind your belt buckle.

Posted by: Ruthless at November 18, 2013 03:37 PM (KzHNA)

211
No doubt is a slush fund and not to just states. Individuals, dem orgs and companies are also getting free money.

That happens with no budget, spending is limitless.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 18, 2013 03:39 PM (iGPSR)

212 Fucking assholes. That's our money and our personal prerogatives, you arrogant, selfish, scumbuckets. Damn you all, again and again.

Posted by: eureka! at November 18, 2013 03:46 PM (hmMJD)

213

btw, all the pics I saw of Marcotte she looks like Capt Kangaroo -- exact same haircut

Posted by: soothsayer at November 18, 2013 06:21 PM (AoGUl)

OK, now I'm going to laugh my ass off everytime I see a picture of Marcotte.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 18, 2013 03:49 PM (R3gO3)

214 The problem OBVIOUSLY is, you racist wingnuts, we didn't give them ENOUGH money.

Posted by: wdk535 at November 18, 2013 04:22 PM (Sa0br)

215 What's funny about the "fundamental transformation" of, well, everything is this: The liberatti actually had to get their hands dirty making sausage with Obamacare. The real, permanent damage to life as we know it, Common Core, was all done with the stroke of a pen, with no legislative action at all. Sleep tight!

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 18, 2013 06:21 PM (NYTfE)

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