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April 09, 2013

Filthy Reid Vows to Break GOP Filibuster on Guns on Thursday
— Ace

Either he'll break the filibuster, he says, or he won't; but the point is, he claims he's bringing it to a vote either way, which is a warning shot to "conservative Democrats" that they won't be permitted any hiding place.

And if he doesn't break the filibuster, he's vowing to use procedural tricks to keep bringing the issue up.

If Democrats fail to achieve the 60-vote threshold required to end the filibuster, Reid pledged to use procedural tricks provided to the majority leader to gum up the Senate legislative calendar to continue to force votes on gun legislation. "It will take a little bit of time, but we're going to do it," he said.
It is unclear whether there are 60 votes in the Senate to end the filibuster, and Reid conceded he did not know either. At least six Republican senators have said they will vote with Democrats to end the filibuster and allow an up-or-down vote on the gun bill. Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., is ill and will not be in the Senate this week to vote, and at least two leading Democrats, Sens. Max Baucus of Montana and Mark Pryor of Arkansas, have not said whether they will support Reid's effort to move to the gun bill.

Posted by: Ace at 01:55 PM | Comments (139)
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I'd enjoy an up or down vote. Are the GOP devious enough to agree to something that could allow such a vote to occur?

Pass the popcorn.

Posted by: Extra Testicles at April 09, 2013 01:58 PM (i/wHs)

2 Hate the Washington Triangle: JEF, Pelosi, Reid

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 09, 2013 01:58 PM (XYSwB)

3 In related news Biden quotes 3,300 to have died of gun violence.

Incidentally, it happens to be the average number of Babies aborted daily (3,28

Posted by: Comrade J at April 09, 2013 01:59 PM (Cq/0w)

4 P.S.: 3,280

Posted by: Comrade J at April 09, 2013 01:59 PM (Cq/0w)

5 I'm kind of a dummy on this stuff. Why not bring it to vote and make the senators choose? Kind of the sunlight is the best disinfectant route. Bring the gun grabbers to the front.

Posted by: Bosk at April 09, 2013 01:59 PM (n2K+4)

6 Maybe they can take his mind off the vote by dangling some young boys in front of him.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 09, 2013 02:00 PM (9H+iJ)

7 Can't wait to see how the GOP screws this up--Red State Dems being forced to vote for gun control? So easy, only the GOP could fuck it up!

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 09, 2013 02:00 PM (VjL9S)

8 Slander!! Reid takes a bath every month, whether or not he needs one!

Posted by: mallfly at April 09, 2013 02:01 PM (bJm7W)

9 "3 In related news Biden quotes 3,300 to have died of gun violence. Incidentally, it happens to be the average number of Babies aborted daily (3,28. Posted by: Comrade J" Maybe Dr. Kermitt the Terrible is using guns to abort babies.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 09, 2013 02:01 PM (9H+iJ)

10 OT/

Its now 8:02 am on the Korean peninsula and still no missile launch.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 09, 2013 02:02 PM (UypUQ)

11 The NRA thinks Reid is good on gun issues. Now...?

Posted by: zsasz at April 09, 2013 02:02 PM (MMC8r)

12 or there was a launch and the Norks don't want to talk about it.

Posted by: mallfly at April 09, 2013 02:03 PM (bJm7W)

13 The more I hear about Kermit Gosnell, the more I see Dr. Mengele at Auschwitz. And I do not think for a second that Gosnell is the only one out there. Truly hideous on every possible level.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 09, 2013 02:04 PM (tqLft)

14 When and where will the Searchlight Pederast strike again?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 09, 2013 02:04 PM (+z4pE)

15 Its now 8:02 am on the Korean peninsula and still no missile launch.

Posted by: Serious Cat

You can't possibly be suggesting that Lil Kimmy2 is all party hat and no cattle?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 09, 2013 02:04 PM (mN8D3)

16 I'm kind of a dummy on this stuff. Why not bring it to vote and make the senators choose? Kind of the sunlight is the best disinfectant route. Bring the gun grabbers to the front. Posted by: Bosk at April 09, 2013 05:59 PM (n2K+4) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Under normal circumstances I would agree but the Dems will fold just like they did on O-care. The only way to stop this is to filibuster it. Of course, Reid may be bluffing too - daring the R's to filibuster and then hang its defeat in their laps. Don't know how some of these Dems keep their NRA chops if they vote with this though. Not like they care or anything.

Posted by: volfan at April 09, 2013 02:04 PM (RTb48)

17 Soon to be ex senator Pryor. Arkies don't cotton to gun grabbers.

Posted by: Jose Wales at April 09, 2013 02:04 PM (lPbS1)

18 This monstrosity dies in the House ( or what's a majority for ? )

Scientology episode on Comedy Central now.............pure gold

Posted by: Jerry Jack in Jacksonville at April 09, 2013 02:05 PM (Dll6b)

19 "...And if he doesn't break the filibuster, he's vowing to use procedural tricks to keep bringing the issue up..." And of course McCain blasts Ted Cruz and Rand Paul for wanting to filibuster. McCain has got to go. And Goober.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 09, 2013 02:05 PM (tqLft)

20 People in real life are saying that the president's folks are saying they aren't backing down, they are going to succeed in taking "all the guns" and that biden said they would do it by any means necessary. Funny, don't own guns, these folks don't own guns, but they are upset enough on hearing this to repeat it to co workers.

Posted by: Caustic at April 09, 2013 02:05 PM (/b8+5)

21 Happiness is a warm gun. (Bang, bang, shoot, shoot . . . )

Posted by: The littl shyning man at April 09, 2013 02:05 PM (PH+2B)

Fucking Pryor better remember who he is supposed to be representing.

Posted by: maddogg at April 09, 2013 02:05 PM (OlN4e)

23 Laws! Laws! There must be more laws. So decree the law makers. Because freedom is (only) for fags. Apparently.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 09, 2013 02:05 PM (wtW72)

8 Slander!! Reid takes a bath every month, whether or not he needs one!

Hairy Reed has the sort of filth that doesn't wash off.

Posted by: wheatie at April 09, 2013 02:06 PM (GwAS0)

25 Stomped again...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 09, 2013 02:06 PM (aDwsi)

26 The Soviet Union had very "good" gun laws. That's why it was such a utopia.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 09, 2013 02:06 PM (wtW72)

27 Someone needs to find a procedural trick to read secreted info RE Benghazi into the Senate record.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 09, 2013 02:06 PM (P3w3I)

28 By the By what exactly is in this "Gun Bill" or do I have to pass it to find out?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2013 02:06 PM (9Bj8R)

29 Sorry I just got in from work. Okay so Dr Gosnell (hah!) - he got his MD from Jeff. My mom worked in the Dean's Office then. He was infamous - lazy, unprepared, only there due to AA. Dr. Souderman had no idea what to do, but the gov't wouldn't let him fail poor Kermie - didn't matter that he never showed up, except very occasionally. No one ever thought he'd really practice medicine, being so . . . well. He found his niche, didn't he?

Posted by: BlackOrchidFriday at April 09, 2013 02:07 PM (J6kXj)

30 Tomorrow, running dogs, kill you long time.

Posted by: Kim Jong-un [/i] at April 09, 2013 02:07 PM (feFL6)

Maybe Ace should add Ol' Slow Joe's mocking of the citizenry today, calling them the "black helicopter crowd."

This guy doesn't represent me in any way, shape, or form.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 09, 2013 02:07 PM (+z4pE)

32 he's vowing to use procedural tricks to keep bringing the issue up. Like what, passing a budget?

Posted by: t-bird at April 09, 2013 02:07 PM (FcR7P)

33 killing the filibuster, sure why not. What comes around goes around.

Posted by: The Dude at April 09, 2013 02:08 PM (vJdyz)

34 I hope they have a up or down vote. This will be great!

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 09, 2013 02:08 PM (R8hU8)

35 I'd kinda like to see where some of these dem senators from red states stand.

Posted by: huerfano at April 09, 2013 02:08 PM (bAGA/)

I think there are a lot of Dems who are counting on the Republicans to save them from themselves.

They want to be able to say..."Hey, we tried"...and then hope that people will forget all about it by the next election.

Posted by: wheatie at April 09, 2013 02:09 PM (GwAS0)

37 "29 Sorry I just got in from work. Okay so Dr Gosnell (hah!) - he got his MD from Jeff. My mom worked in the Dean's Office then. He was infamous - lazy, unprepared, only there due to AA. Dr. Souderman had no idea what to do, but the gov't wouldn't let him fail poor Kermie - didn't matter that he never showed up, except very occasionally. No one ever thought he'd really practice medicine, being so . . . well. He found his niche, didn't he? Posted by: BlackOrchidFriday at April 09, 2013 06:07 PM (J6kXj) " Guess he never learned about the Hippocratic Oath then. What's everyone else's excuse? They can't all be literal imbeciles.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 09, 2013 02:09 PM (wtW72)

38 RELATED:

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NRA plans to challenge Maryland gun law

By Erin Cox

The Baltimore Sun

3:38 PM EDT, April 9, 2013

National Rifle Association President David Keene said Tuesday the organization plans to challenge the constitutionality of Maryland's newly passed gun law.

Keene said the group will "absolutely" go to the courts during in an interview with Washington, D.C. radio station WTOP.

"We are already in court in New York and we will be in court and aiding those in Maryland - and I'm myself a Maryland resident - who want to challenge the constitutionality of this and other provisions here in Maryland," Keene said.

The gun bill passed last month bans the sale of 45 types of military-style semi-automatic rifles, among other strict provisions. Keene said it is unconstitutional to ban firearms in common use and that the AR-15 is nation's best-selling rifle.

The gun law, which Gov. Martin O'Malley does not plan to sign until May, also limits magazines to 10 bullets, and requires a license to buy a handgun.

The Maryland Attorney General's Office reviews every law for constitutionality before it is signed. The law is scheduled to take effect on Oct. 1.

"We believe, as does the Attorney General, that our new law is constitutional," O'Malley spokeswoman Raquel Guillory said. "We currently have a ban on enumerated assault pistols, which has been on the books for decades."

Pro-gun advocates flooded Annapolis during the gun debate voicing displeasure, but on Tuesday were mum about their future plans.

"We are looking at our options," said John H. Josselyn, legislative vice president for the Associated Gun Clubs of Baltimore.

The group posted a message to members on Sunday cautioning against a "knee-jerk" response to petition the law to referendum and ask voters to tear it down.

"We have never won a referendum in Maryland, and it may not be the best course of action," the message read. "We may be better off pursuing litigation in the courts."

A ban on cheap handguns known as Saturday Night Specials in 1988 was petitioned to referendum and failed, which was at a time when there was less public outcry for new gun laws.

Several public polls conducted since January suggest most Maryland residents support the new gun law, which was prompted by the December mass shooting that killed 27 people at a Connecticut elementary school.

Josselyn's group has asked members to set aside $1 a day to fund a developing political action committee, which could target pro-gun control legislators in the next election.

Shannon Alford, NRA's lobbyist in Annapolis, said there are not yet specifics on the next course of action.

"We're trying to figure out what's next too," she said. "We're at headquarters reviewing the (Maryland) law. Connecticut passed a bill the same day too."

In late March, the NRA and the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association filed a lawsuit with several other New York gun groups alleging that state's new gun laws prohibiting commonly possessed guns and magazines violate the Second Amendment.

In Maryland, the group responsible for petitioning three laws onto the November ballot has taken a circumspect approach to whether to challenge Maryland's gun law.

Del. Neil Parrott, founder of mdpetitions.com, said the group is surveying online and by mail members who helped with previous petition drives.

The group learned the process is far more expensive and time-consuming than simply gathering signatures and they want to target their resources where they can be most effective, said Parrott, a Washington County Republican.

The survey asks which of eight possible bills - including the gun bill, repeal of the death penalty and the issuance of driver's licenses to illegal immigrants - should be petitioned.

Copyright Â© 2013, The Baltimore Sun
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Posted by: Serious Cat at April 09, 2013 02:09 PM (UypUQ)

39 Rumor has it that Harry "The Pederast" Reid also uses procedural tricks to lure young boys into his secret chambers of pain.

Posted by: Fritz at April 09, 2013 02:09 PM (UzPAd)

40 Black orchid He couldn't heal do he killed instead? What a creep

Posted by: phoenixgirl, commenter at the best conservative blog at April 09, 2013 02:09 PM (q1bGP)

41 30 Tomorrow, running dogs, kill you long time. Posted by: Kim Jong-un at April 09, 2013 06:07 PM
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That's Mister running dog to you Porky.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 09, 2013 02:09 PM (aDwsi)

42 I'd kinda like to see where some of these dem senators from red states stand. Posted by: huerfano at April 09, 2013 06:08 PM (bAGA/) Problem is once the filibuster is broken, there would be enough votes in all likely hood for some of those red state dems to vote against the Bill and still have it pass by simply majority

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2013 02:10 PM (9Bj8R)

43 I'm sure Harry Reid and tricks are very well acquainted.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 09, 2013 02:11 PM (AC0lD)

44 If it saves one child who grows up to be a Sacred Abortionist, we must take your guns.

Posted by: t-bird at April 09, 2013 02:11 PM (FcR7P)

45 Gahhhh! cat piss is back again? Always and always.

Posted by: jem at April 09, 2013 02:11 PM (7g1yh)

46 and btw it's very hard to find MDs to perform abortions . . . it occurs to me that they HAVE to have non-MDs do them, or they wouldn't get done. I'd bet most clinics are fudging regs just to keep "in business." Sorry OT but the Gosnell story - it's big around here - whew. am glad you guys are talking about it.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 09, 2013 02:12 PM (J6kXj)

47 Have been swamped lately, is it true the immigration bill is 1500 pages of taxes again, like the AHB?

Posted by: Caustic at April 09, 2013 02:12 PM (/b8+5)

48 37 "29 Sorry I just got in from work.

Okay so Dr Gosnell (hah!) - he got his MD from Jeff. My mom worked in the Dean's Office then..........................

Guess he never learned about the Hippocratic Oath then. What's everyone else's excuse? They can't all be literal imbeciles. Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 09, 2013 06:09 PM
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Parallel with Ft. Hood shooter. No one had the guts to speak frankly about the guy. Hey..., it just came to me... Obonger

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 09, 2013 02:12 PM (aDwsi)

49 I can't say I agree with those calling for an up or down vote. It passes the Senate, then Boner will allow a House vote, passes with a few dozen RINO members supporting. We lose more of our liberties just to get a few red state dems on record as pro-gun control. Fuck that shit, I'd rather just kill it now.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 09, 2013 02:12 PM (hpYnL)

50 Harry Reid smells of catpiss and mildew and talks like a fucking perv. Well done, Nevada, for inflicting that pile of shit on the rest of the country. When the country was founded, he'd have been tied up in the town square and beaten until his dowager hump came out his chest.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 09, 2013 02:13 PM (ymbS7)

51 We still have a chance to make 2014 just as good for us as 2010. I have no idea why we're not making the most of this midterm election next year. As it is, we'll be lucky to keep the House.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 09, 2013 02:13 PM (xIzGn)

Posted by: Bosk at April 09, 2013 05:59 PM (n2K+4)

Becasue once it passes the Fillibuster.... it WILL pass with 50 votes.... thus passing the Senate...

Which allows teh Precedent to Rant and Rave about the Obstructionist Republicans in the House, stopping 'common sense' gun legislation that passed the Senate...

And the Press, will EAT IT UP....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 09, 2013 02:13 PM (lZBBB)

53 What was Reid trying to quote with that number?

Posted by: mare at April 09, 2013 02:13 PM (A98Xu)

54 Blame McCain.

Posted by: pat at April 09, 2013 02:14 PM (jlQR7)

55 The more I hear about Kermit Gosnell, the more I see Dr. Mengele at Auschwitz. And I do not think for a second that Gosnell is the only one out there.

Truly hideous on every possible level.
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Mitch McConell can be bugged but thousands of abortion clinics have more secrecy than Area 51?

Every fucking day in every abortion clinic in America there are "consultations" that engage in high-pressure tactics beyond the pale--every fucking day.

I know for a fact: Our local killing mill gave a girl a sonogram that was all blurry and covered with static--"Nothing there, see?" they told her. She comes to us and gets a real sonogram and there's the baby clear as day.

It is far past time for men of good conscience to accept there are rules any more.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 09, 2013 02:14 PM (VjL9S)

56 Bring it Searchlight...if we show balls YOU ARE FUCKED....

oh damn...

never mind

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 09, 2013 02:14 PM (LRFds)

57 *double facepalm* @20 and 47

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2013 02:14 PM (lVPtV)

58 Filibuster schmilibuster we are doomed with grahnesty and mc queen rhino fucks that they are, it will pass and boner the boneless wii once again shoot errr I mean stab us in the back

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 09, 2013 02:14 PM (HVff2)

All the GOP should bring this to the floor.

But they won't; they be counting on the Donks to block some shit they don't want to vote on later.

Posted by: Extra Testicles at April 09, 2013 02:15 PM (i/wHs)

60 "52 Posted by: Bosk at April 09, 2013 05:59 PM (n2K+4) Becasue once it passes the Fillibuster.... it WILL pass with 50 votes.... thus passing the Senate... Which allows teh Precedent to Rant and Rave about the Obstructionist Republicans in the House, stopping 'common sense' gun legislation that passed the Senate... And the Press, will EAT IT UP.... Posted by: Romeo13 at April 09, 2013 06:13 PM (lZBBB) " Communist-sense gun legislation.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 09, 2013 02:15 PM (wtW72)

61 Posted by: Romeo13 at April 09, 2013 06:13 PM (lZBBB)

When the republicans go along they get the media shaft (see recent presidential election). When the republicans don't go along, they get the media shaft. So they should just not go along, they get treated the same. But, they should make sure they are on the offensive not the defensive this time.

Posted by: Caustic at April 09, 2013 02:15 PM (/b8+5)

62 "13 The more I hear about Kermit Gosnell, the more I see Dr. Mengele at Auschwitz." Yeah, you'd think that women's rights groups and African Americans would be screeching about this guy. The woman who died and the babies he killed, were they black or white? Is it true he had separate entrances for suburbanites and poor blacks?

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 09, 2013 02:15 PM (9H+iJ)

63
I'd kinda like to see where some of these dem senators from red states stand.
Posted by: huerfano

"Nay" to have the vote for their campaign flyer, while 50+ Democrats and Republicans vote the bill through.

That's where.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 09, 2013 02:15 PM (kdS6q)

64 Blame McCain.

Posted by: pat at April 09, 2013 06:14 PM (jlQR7)

That's my default setting; whenever something fucks up that dickhole is somehow involved.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 09, 2013 02:16 PM (ymbS7)

65 As it is, we'll be lucky to keep the House. Posted by: soothsayer at April 09, 2013 06:13 PM (xIzGn) No actually going district by district we are pretty sure to retain the house. Now it would be nice to increase our margin and chip away at the Senate.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2013 02:16 PM (9Bj8R)

66 13 JJ Sefton,

Gosnell is making me run out of arguments against violence against his kind....

Not there yet but I am wondering "what morality?"

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 09, 2013 02:16 PM (LRFds)

67 I can't say I agree with those calling for an up or down vote. It passes the Senate, then Boner will allow a House vote, passes with a few dozen RINO members supporting. We lose more of our liberties just to get a few red state dems on record as pro-gun control. Fuck that shit, I'd rather just kill it now.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 09, 2013 06:12 PM (hpYnL)

Kill it before it grows

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 09, 2013 02:16 PM (nTgAI)

68 Fuck that shit, I'd rather just kill it now.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 09, 2013 06:12 PM (hpYnL)

No fuck that shit, we need to move this into the sunlight now

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 09, 2013 02:16 PM (R8hU8)

69 I hope the NRA feels good about their endorsement of Harry Reid in 2010. It's all about "access," right? Sheesh. Will no one rid me of this turbulent, child molesting gun-grabber?

Posted by: Cowboy Bob at April 09, 2013 02:16 PM (6GZ+p)

70 I'd like to see a filibuster in the form of the Second Amendment repeated over and over. Hairy Reed should listen to it for a few hours, then go home and try to get some sleep, then come back and hear it for a few more hours.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 09, 2013 02:18 PM (+z4pE)

71 69 I hope the NRA feels good about their endorsement of Harry Reid in 2010. It's all about "access," right? Sheesh. Will no one rid me of this turbulent, child molesting gun-grabber? Posted by: Cowboy Bob at April 09, 2013 06:16 PM
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Yeah..., I sensed my gorge rising when they did that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 09, 2013 02:18 PM (aDwsi)

72 Agree with killing it now, cuz the Roberts court sure isn't going to do the right thing

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 09, 2013 02:18 PM (HVff2)

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 09, 2013 06:16 PM (R8hU

Yeah.... just like all those Dems were going to 'pay' for their Obama care Votes?

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 09, 2013 02:18 PM (lZBBB)

74 Fuck that shit, I'd rather just kill it now.
Posted by: mugiwara at April 09, 2013 06:12 PM (hpYnL)No fuck that shit, we need to move this into the sunlight now

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 09, 2013 06:16 PM (R8hU

I'm sorry, but I prefer to preserve my liberties, even if it means we won't have a campaign issue to use against some dems which our guys will just fuck up anyway.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 09, 2013 02:19 PM (hpYnL)

75 Let him. Who cares? No filibuster! Make the red state democrats vote up or down and then we will beat them in 2014. Everyone does remember we control the House and this bill is DOA over there, right? So let's play rope a dope. Box them in!

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 09, 2013 02:19 PM (wR+pz)

76 Apparently the Jodi Arias trial today is all about "teh buttsex" and Einstein's IQ.

Posted by: wooga at April 09, 2013 02:19 PM (1AhEz)

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 09, 2013 06:18 PM (+z4pE)

2 points... repeated repeatedly....

If you need permission to do somthing... its not a RIGHT....

And 'shall not be infringed' is self explanatory.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 09, 2013 02:20 PM (lZBBB)

78 "74 Fuck that shit, I'd rather just kill it now. Posted by: mugiwara at April 09, 2013 06:12 PM (hpYnL)No fuck that shit, we need to move this into the sunlight now Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 09, 2013 06:16 PM (R8hU I'm sorry, but I prefer to preserve my liberties, even if it means we won't have a campaign issue to use against some dems which our guys will just fuck up anyway. Posted by: mugiwara at April 09, 2013 06:19 PM (hpYnL) " Maybe it's time to start pointing out to people that party affiliation actually does matter. At least when it comes to Democrats.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 09, 2013 02:20 PM (wtW72)

79 Will "Comfort Dogs" be supplied? Or will senators have to provide their own?

Posted by: Waldo at April 09, 2013 02:20 PM (8yFIG)

80 Oh yeah that's right all my guns went swimming,DAMN

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 09, 2013 02:21 PM (HVff2)

81 No actually going district by district we are pretty sure to retain the house. Not if turnout is as low I suspect it will be. I'm sure the polls will have the Republicans looking fairly good, but the results on election day will a tell a different story if the Republicans don't give people a reason to vote for them.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 09, 2013 02:21 PM (vyPsz)

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 09, 2013 06:19 PM (wR+pz)

Yeah.... cause that thinking worked SOOOO well with Obama care....

Insanity... doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 09, 2013 02:21 PM (lZBBB)

83 "79 Will "Comfort Dogs" be supplied? Or will senators have to provide their own? Posted by: Waldo at April 09, 2013 06:20 PM (8yFIG) " Obama ate everyone's comfort dogs. No comfort dog for you!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 09, 2013 02:21 PM (wtW72)

Bring on the ladies basketball game!! I'm sufficently non - sobery!

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 09, 2013 02:22 PM (wIgpo)

85 oooops. Dog is giving me the "Take me out now, or I'm gonna stink up the rug" look...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 09, 2013 02:22 PM (aDwsi)

86 Yeah, you'd think that women's rights groups and African Americans would be screeching about this guy.

The woman who died and the babies he killed, were they black or white? Is it true he had separate entrances for suburbanites and poor blacks?
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Far more businesses and far more institutions have faced lawsuits for substantially less of a "disparate impact."

Support for abortion is racism. Pure and unfiltered racism. Those minorities that support it are the vilest of self-haters.

That these parents "can't afford" kids is the very definition of racism--it assumes an unfounded, prejudicial and stereotypical affliction upon all with dark skin: "They're not smart enough, not educated enough, not driven enough to support a family--but I am, in my rich community, in my privileged lifestyle, in my stable family."

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 09, 2013 02:23 PM (VjL9S)

87
No fuck that shit, we need to move this into the sunlight now
Posted by: Velvet Ambition

Remember when the Republicans were going to use the votes on the continuing resolutions and debt ceilings to destroy the Democrats in the 2012 election?

Yeah, that.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 09, 2013 02:23 PM (kdS6q)

88 I just keep thinking of that Far Side cartoon with the vultures sitting in a tree, and the one vulture says "Fuck this shit - let's kill something!"

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 09, 2013 02:23 PM (xhv9C)

89 @85 hey mike what kind of dog? Mine gave me that look earlier

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 09, 2013 02:24 PM (HVff2)

90 so. He's calling for a vote. Which pub caved

Posted by: thunderb at April 09, 2013 02:24 PM (+afNf)

91 @82 Yeah.... cause that thinking worked SOOOO well with Obama care.... We DIDN'T control the House when Obama care was voted on, you know that right? Obviously not.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 09, 2013 02:24 PM (wR+pz)

92 You give boner too much faith and credit to do the right thing Billy Bob

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 09, 2013 02:25 PM (HVff2)

93 the results on election day will a tell a different story if the Republicans don't give people a reason to vote for them. Posted by: soothsayer at April 09, 2013 06:21 PM (vyPsz) Yeah, but ain't that always the truth

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2013 02:26 PM (9Bj8R)

94 90 Thunder B,

hell a shorter list is a list of KNOWN non caves...

Juan Queeg has me ready to move to fucking Antarctica...

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 09, 2013 02:26 PM (LRFds)

95 The Dems seem a little worried about this vote.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 09, 2013 02:27 PM (baL2B)

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 09, 2013 06:24 PM (wR+pz)

YOu are thinking that dems who vote for this will pay some political price...

They won't.... so why give Obama the ammunition of being able to Rant about the House Republicans obstructionism?

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 09, 2013 02:27 PM (lZBBB)

Do we even know what's in this Senate Bill?

Does it include Chuck Shummer's amendment, which basically establishes a National Registry?

Posted by: wheatie at April 09, 2013 02:27 PM (GwAS0)

98
We DIDN'T control the House when Obama care was voted on, you know that right?
Posted by: Billy Bob

If you think "We" control the House now, you haven't been paying attention.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 09, 2013 02:28 PM (kdS6q)

99 Yeah, you'd think that women's rights groups and African Americans would be screeching about this guy.

The women's groups aren't going to say anything about a black guy, and the dead woman that started the investigation was an African immigrant, so the "African-American" groups that aren't explicitly pro-life aren't particularly interested.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ shoveling peanut butter cups down her maw, Mooch-style at April 09, 2013 02:28 PM (/kI1Q)

100

The NRA could really do itself a favor and issue a mea culpa wrt endorsing The Pederast in 2010. At some point they have to reexamine this too-clever-by-half strategic shit and simply do the right thing by endorsing the right people. Why they and others like them cannot wrap their brains around the notion that a vote for a "pro-gun" Donk is in a larger context a vote for the anti-gun Donk control of the committees and the Senate/House as well.

Yeah, holding your nose and voting for whatever turd the GOP is running is a hard thing to do but consider the fucking alternative.

Posted by: Jaws at April 09, 2013 02:29 PM (4I3Uo)

101 97 wheatie,

yeah about that....

they were still writing fucking Ogabecare 3 years after "passage"...

I want off this new Donkey Show Themed Federal Ride

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 09, 2013 02:29 PM (LRFds)

102 yeah but it won't stop CAC from massaging our ballbags with polls showing Republicans down only 5 points in East Bumfuck, Michigan

Posted by: soothsayer at April 09, 2013 02:30 PM (hA+ft)

103 That these parents "can't afford" kids is the very definition of racism--

I know no one keeps stats, but I'd be unsurprised to learn that the rate of abortion among "wealthy white women under 21" is as great or greater than "poor black women under 21." Greater pressures among family and friends to complete education, not embarrass parents, marry someone in your class (who won't want someone else's kid).

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ shoveling peanut butter cups down her maw, Mooch-style at April 09, 2013 02:32 PM (/kI1Q)

104
We DIDN'T control the House when Obama care was voted on, you know that right?
Posted by: Billy Bob

Also, Team Republican was aware the Dems controlled the House. But the brilliant strategy was that the bill would fail and vote would be used against Red State Dems in the next election.

Besides, even if it passed it would get killed by the conservative majority on the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 09, 2013 02:32 PM (kdS6q)

105 @96 YOu are thinking that dems who vote for this will pay some political price... I can only speak for NC. Kay Hagan votes for the gun bill, she will lose her ass. Actually, she is going to lose her ass one way or the other.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 09, 2013 02:32 PM (wR+pz)

106 I saaw where 38% of abortins were 'black'

Posted by: jakeinidaho at April 09, 2013 02:35 PM (W6iIX)

107 Planned Parenthood kills more blacks in one month than the Klan did in a decade at the height if its power.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 09, 2013 02:36 PM (tqLft)

108
I can only speak for NC. Kay Hagan votes for the gun bill, she will lose her ass.
Posted by: Billy Bob

"In the November election 2008, Hagan won by an unexpectedly wide margin, winning 53 percent of the vote to Dole's 44 percentÂ—the largest margin of victory for a Senate race in North Carolina in 30 years..."

Hmmm.... meebee, meebee not.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 09, 2013 02:37 PM (kdS6q)

109

Kill. It. Now.

This issue is too important to risk anything else. Especially if we're counting on the GOPers in Congress to stand firm with the MFM screaming for their blood.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 09, 2013 02:37 PM (TIIx5)

110

101 97 wheatie,

yeah about that....

they were still writing fucking Ogabecare 3 years after "passage"...

I want off this new Donkey Show Themed Federal Ride

-------------

The Donks are predators, sven.

All we needed were a few simple healthcare reforms...actual reforms.

The Donks used that premise to force a complete Government Takeover of our lives, down our throats.

Same thing going on now, with Gun Control.

There is nothing in this Senate Bill that would've prevented the spree killings that have happened.

The Donks are just preying on recent events.

They are fucking Predators.

Posted by: wheatie at April 09, 2013 02:38 PM (GwAS0)

111 @107 Since the Klan didn't kill over a 100 people in a 100 years, I'd say that's a good bet. New thread

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 09, 2013 02:38 PM (wR+pz)

112 The Founding Fathers would have been shooting by now.

Posted by: LGoPs at April 09, 2013 02:38 PM (4x8W0)

113

How come Ace et al can call Harry Reid a child molester, which is not true, but I cant call Gabby a goddamned whore, which is true?

Moral inversion, is what.

Posted by: njinfl at April 09, 2013 02:41 PM (Iis02)

114 and at least two leading Democrats, Sens. Max Baucus of Montana and Mark Pryor of Arkansas, have not said whether they will support Reid's effort to move to the gun bill ====== I like how there is supposed to be mystery and suspense regarding this. Note: The Democrats will vote in lock stop to end a filibuster Republicans will enable the end to the filibuster by voting to end debate. The Senate will indeed pass a gun control bill and at least 10 Republicans will vote for said bill. All the conservative commentors who are suggesting the Democrats were too scared to allow a vote on this issue, and who believe these votes will be good for Republicans will have egg on their faces yet again.

Posted by: Jay at April 09, 2013 02:42 PM (WSgyE)

115
I've seen this go down before.
Sorry guys, my money is on the Dems

Posted by: RayJ at April 09, 2013 02:42 PM (pI/IV)

116 Also, Team Republican was aware the Dems controlled the House. But the brilliant strategy was that the bill would fail and vote would be used against Red State Dems in the next election.

Besides, even if it passed it would get killed by the conservative majority on the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 09, 2013 06:32 PM (kdS6q)

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand if *that* didn't work, it could be used to defeat the JEF in 2012. Sooper jeanyus strategery FTW!! Top.Men.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 09, 2013 02:44 PM (ymbS7)

117 I wouldn't get too excited about retaking the Senate, what with the Republican leadership failing on all counts to push the red state D's into a gun vote, failing to scream about all of the horrors of Ocare as they roll outward and the great healthcare bill that wasn't unravels. We'll be lucky to hold our majority of governorships and see ANY gains in the house, maybe 1-2 in the Senate. Especially after the 2012 elections, I have little to no faith in our party winning elections or even trying. The establishment candidates failed utterly to deliver in their races, and the nutjobs like Akin fucked us from behind. Doom as far as the eye can see and none of the current polling looks very promising outside of North Dakota, Montana, Arkansas, Alaska and West Virginia.

Posted by: CAC at April 09, 2013 02:45 PM (49je5)

118 I understand Reid's father shot himself, I can understand why.

Posted by: Mandrill Redass at April 09, 2013 02:46 PM (EeJqQ)

119 @107

Since the Klan didn't kill over a 100 people in a 100 years, I'd say that's a good bet.

Are you sure of your stat?

According to the Tuskeegee Institute, between 1882 and 1964 3,445 Blacks were lynched and 1,297 Whites were lynched. That's 4,742 lynchings in less than 100 years. I'm not sure how many of those people were killed by the Klan and how many were not, but I think it's a safe guess that more than 100 people were killed by their members in 100 years.

Reference: http://preview.tinyurl.com/7kjauc8 [link to UMKC Law]

Posted by: bonhomme at April 09, 2013 02:47 PM (P3w3I)

120 If Juan McStain doesn't like the fillibuster, then it's probably a very good idea to fillibuster

Posted by: Ronster at April 09, 2013 02:47 PM (4PYOi)

121 "I know no one keeps stats, but I'd be unsurprised to learn that the rate of abortion among "wealthy white women under 21" is as great or greater than "poor black women under 21." Greater pressures among family and friends to complete education, not embarrass parents, marry someone in your class (who won't want someone else's kid). Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ shoveling peanut butter cups down her maw, Mooch-style" Ever wonder why Sarah Palin's daughter is the first daughter of a national political candidate to get preggers out of wedlock. Teenagers being what they are. That little mistake never happened to the daughter of a presidential, vice presidential or other high level candidate before? I'd be curious to know how many candidates' daughters were pushed into abortions in order to not embarrass daddy.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 09, 2013 02:48 PM (9H+iJ)

122 There's a ghastly irony about this entire subject, but my brain along with the collective mind of my supporters from back in '10 are so tiny we can't grasp it.

Posted by: Sharron Angle at April 09, 2013 02:51 PM (pmsMR)

123 Buck conventional wisdom fight Reid and his lovable Mc Queen

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 09, 2013 02:54 PM (HVff2)

124 102
yeah but it won't stop CAC from massaging our ballbags with polls showing Republicans down only 5 points in East Bumfuck, Michigan

Posted by: soothsayer at April 09, 2013 06:30 PM (hA+ft)

-Points and laughs-

Posted by: Resident of WEST Bumfuck, MI at April 09, 2013 03:00 PM (FIDMq)

125 123 Resident of WEST Bumfuck MI,

GOP bitchz better be sending me a phone....

//F$A E-7

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 09, 2013 03:04 PM (LRFds)

126 Depend on Mitch the Embattled, or the male version of Crying Wife? Tough choice.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 09, 2013 03:20 PM (0q2P7)

127 Where have all the comfort dogs gone? Long time passing Where have all the comfort dogs gone? Long time ago Where have all the comfort dogs gone? Barry ate every one When will Puffyface ever learn? When will she every learn?

Posted by: Waldo at April 09, 2013 03:22 PM (8yFIG)

128
I understand Reid's father shot himself, I can understand why.
Posted by: Mandrill Redass

"It's a boy!"

**BLAM**

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 09, 2013 03:29 PM (kdS6q)

129 112 The Founding Fathers would have been shooting by now. Posted by: LGoPs at April 09, 2013 06:38 PM (4x8W0) We are so far past and beyond the Â“long train of abuses and usurpationsÂ” that the Colonists and Founders experienced and which necessitated the Revolutionary War that they arenÂ’t even visible in the rear-view mirror. ~ Ann Barnhardt

Posted by: rickl at April 09, 2013 03:35 PM (sdi6R)

130 Guns? No. Young, tender boys? Yes!

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 09, 2013 03:39 PM (k4bdL)

131 Calling Dingy Harry Reid "filth" is truly an insult to filth.

Posted by: Dawn at April 09, 2013 03:47 PM (/nLBu)

132 Maybe Lautenberg will shoot himself in the fucking head. He can blame the gun but he would be dead...

Posted by: torabora at April 09, 2013 03:53 PM (f4BVp)

133 After today's Texas knife attack, the GOP should amend it to include a ban on all knives.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at April 09, 2013 04:10 PM (n8LUb)

134 58 Filibuster schmilibuster we are doomed with grahnesty and mc queen rhino fucks that they are, it will pass and boner the boneless wii once again shoot errr I mean stab us in the back Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 09, 2013 06:14 PM (HVff2) I don't know if this made the rounds here, but this sums it up well: http://preview.tinyurl.com/cdzjqeh

Posted by: BornLib at April 09, 2013 05:01 PM (zpNwC)

135 Sounds great to me. Not sure why dingy Harry wants to get rid of all his red state Democrat Senators, but I'm all in favor.

Posted by: Greg Q at April 09, 2013 06:41 PM (Hojrd)

136 I just want the attack on the 2nd Amendment to stop, by any means necessary. I can't believe this thing has gone on for 5 months now.

Posted by: Sea Monster at April 09, 2013 06:45 PM (QBDoj)

137 This is what the NRA gets for supporting him over Sharron Angle.

Posted by: DocMerlin at April 10, 2013 12:17 AM (giiNN)

138 Let 'em vote. Let 'em pass it. Let's get the fight over with once and for all. Otherwise we're just all frogs in the pot, waiting for Those-Who-Know-Whats-Better-For-Us-Than-We-Do to issue everyone their respective ball and chain.

Posted by: Letit Bern at April 10, 2013 08:27 AM (ox1XP)

139 Reid pledged to use procedural tricks provided to the majority leader to gum up the Senate legislative calendar to continue to force votes on gun legislation

Hey, Christmas is coming early. Stopping immigration AND recorded votes on gungrabbing ... thats a win/win!

Posted by: Hairy Rude at April 10, 2013 07:15 PM (oLIxy)

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