"New York Democrats to Address “Inconsistencies” in New Gun Laws They Just Rammed Through"

Where's the GOP figure willing to go on the air to mock this? Anyone?

"Germany is planning to cut many of its flagship green programs"

Who here believes that Bohner will bring this up?

"Who the hell is New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg to presume that he has a say in what I or any other American chooses to drink?"

What GOP talking head will run with this?

And that's just the low hanging fruit from today's dump...

GAH damn you Ben! I was trying to go all week without hearing shit about Obummers bracket.

I just filled one out at work and the admin said "I can't wait to see the President's.  His is always good." I went "sure whatever, don't care about his." and walked away.

Well at least he's got his priorities in order.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 09:44 AM (4OvDk)

I'm currently devoting tons of time to closing out the F*cking popups on Townhall.com

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 09:41 AM (4OvDk)

He read it right away, Allen....video below.

That state has quickly gone off the rails

The 'Bite Me' coalition?

Sounds ok...although I'm more partial to the 'Lick my Taint' Coalition.

Seems more 'big tent' that way.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 20, 2013 09:49 AM (FsUAO)

And then, they try to take your kids, with all the money and power of the state.  I know I don't have the money to fight a protracted battle through the courts, which, in all likelihood, I have a 50/50 chance of losing. 

Can you combat the financial power of the state?  I know I can't.

Posted by: EC

Is it considered cock when there's a lack of pubic hair?

the 'Lick my Taint' Coalition.

Seems more 'big tent' that way.

Ah, you've seen my taint.

#12,

He's (Kurt) spot on. Making it personal here - my kids are all "growed up" and out, and wouldn't be caught dead identifying as "GOP", yet are increasingly fed up w/the entire "left" side on most issues. Instead of preaching to such, though, the GOP continues to engage in such winning topics as "religion", "sexuality", and "we're not Obama"...

Head, meet desk.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnel

I suspect that would take research on the scale of the Manhattan Project.

Only more dangerous.

I love Professor Jacobson.  lol!   You can tell he's got a great sense of humor.

Bravo to the winner AND the runner up!

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 20, 2013 09:54 AM (FsUAO)

In this case, you're absolutely correct.  The precedent being established here is the problem. 

Posted by: Tami at March 20, 2013 09:49 AM (X6akg)

I think AllenG means "did he read it before hand, or was that the first time he had seen it."

Posted by: tsrblke at March 20, 2013 09:57 AM (GaqMa)

No, I mean: presumably Ace wrote it before Gabe even went to CPAC. So when did Gabe first read it? I know if I were going to read a prepared speech, I'd want to read through it at least a couple of times before I actually delivered it.

The point being, Gabe was a really, really good sport about it.

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Ah....well, given his delivery, I suspect he had read it before hand.

"Pioneering goth-rocker Peter Murphy was arrested Saturday after he allegedly rear-ended a vehicle..."

The guy was in BAUHAUS. 

 I just say thanks and ask him to sign my bumper.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 20, 2013 09:57 AM (4df7R)

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the link is blocked at my job, can you just give a quick summary?

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 20, 2013 09:54 AM (FsUAO)::::

The police were trying to gain entry, not for themselves, but for a woman who refused  to identify herself or show any credentials, to this man's home and force him into opening up his  gun safe.

CHA-CHING!!!! 

There are any number of lawyers that would take this on a contigency basis.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 20, 2013 09:49 AM (FsUAO)

"Search warrant, motherf*ckers!  Do you speak it?"

Then they'll sculpt the ashes into his likeness, and they'll suck its dick.

Semi-unrelatedly, clarifying a point from the last thread: The media isn't "liberal," it's partisan, and it's partisan against you, non-Democrats. No amount of positional or rhetorical appeasement or GOP leftification will result in the press treating you any better than they do now. They're against you, period, and they'll say whatever they have to say about you to fuck you up. And every time you cave, their confidence/fury/glee/bloodlust increase.

They're the jock, you're the nerd, and they have your head deep in the toilet. Is "This cool and shade is really clarifying my thoughts!" a defense to that?

What's that you say?   Democrats don't understand shit about    revenue generation?

From the progressive tax revenue shortfalls link:

The country's fiscal condition thus poses a choice for Democrats. They can harvest a great deal of revenue by making peace with a profitable and growing economy and with those productive individuals who create such an economy. Or they can embrace new taxes on both upper- and middle-income earners that will restrain economic growth. The latter course will make it harder and harder to raise the revenue that Democrats demand to fund the government they love.

Doesn't matter.   Today's Dim-o-rats will always choose more taxes.   Even if they know that higher taxation means lower revenue, they'll do it anyway.   It's all    about the optics of making    the so-called   "wealthy" members of society     suffer, so that the mouthbreathing LIVs will     have the feral satisfaction of being able to point and laugh     and say,  "HA HA!  You have to pay more taxes, asshole!      Let's see your shiny Bentley and $1million    mansions    rescue you from that!     BWA HA!"    Doesn't matter that most of these    alleged 1%'s   have as much in common with Bill Gates or George Clooney's bank account as I do.

LIVs     and the FSA      are the dumbest people in the world, and Dim-o-rats are their intellectual gurus.

given yourself horrible diseases because of your lifestyle? Sucks to be
you.

-- I got tingly reading that.--

I'd get that checked.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 20, 2013 10:00 AM (FsUAO)

To a certain extent there are multi-state issues regarding this, however I suppose many of them could get sorted out the way they get sorted out now. (My city sees a lot of IL residents in hospitals, which has us dealing with IL law for things like proxy consent and foster kids, and we do OK at it, so I imagine there could be something figured out.)

Where   is   all   the   press   that   I   had    last   week?   Don't    make   me  do   something    outrageous    and   fabulous   to   get   attention!

BTW, if you haven't read the followed the sidebar link to Ember's post over at DoublePlusUndead, do it. She says in perfect fashion absolutely everything that anyone with good conscience should say about Steubenville.

Yeah, that's not happening here. 

/snark

Posted by: BSR at March 20, 2013 10:06 AM (CBCxo)

There's a special place in Hell for eagles and flyers fans.  You get a pass on the sixers but only because of Dr. J.

Posted by: kallisto at March 20, 2013 09:59 AM (jm/9g)

In short:   Fuck the two rapists.   They're animals and deserve no sympathy, no pity, and    a lifetime of misery.     They've ruined this girl's ability to    ever have a normal,     healthy relationship,   and for that they should pay   dearly.    It's sickening how all the media attention has been focused on the two rapists and how this "terrible mistake" has forever changed their lives, which were otherwise very promising.    Nobody seems to give a rat's ass for the girl who was repeatedly violated,    then    taunted     and harassed after the fact.

Ember     also explains    that she herself was raped in the past.   Bravo to   her     for sharing that;   that's got to be a difficult thing to    talk about    in an online forum.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 20, 2013 10:00 AM (CJjw5)

Exactly.  I'm not the suing type but this one calls for all of those freedom organizations to lend their attorneys to this family and sue the crap out of NJ, CPS and the police and also to identify the cunt who called in the complaint.

Posted by: BSR at March 20, 2013 10:03 AM (CBCxo)

^^ This ^^

They don't want a _conversation_ about race, they want to _lecture_ whites and force them to live cowed by angry black men (Sharpton, et al.).

"Why can't we just leave drug legalization/criminalization up to the states? "

Heathen. Why next you'll want states to control education, roads, and other local issues.

That's Racist.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 20, 2013 10:10 AM (fwARV)

so you're saying you --don't-- want the "white guilt" lapel pin?

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 20, 2013 10:04 AM (ATdet)

Ditto.  I'm sick of    being told we have to be nice.   Screw that shit.

PS - I've never understood the "like taking candy from a baby" idiom.   Have you ever TRIED to take candy from a baby?  They're not strong enough to fight you, but my GOD how they scream and wail.  

Posted by: Melodicmetal at March 20, 2013 10:11 AM (QY9FJ)

it's 0812 mountain time.  Thanks for THAT mental image prior to my Cinnamon Life cereal.  There goes the whole day...

The Philly Mag controversy is exactly why I laugh
when lefties say they want to have a "conversation on race". That
conversation invariably has the form of black democrats lecturing white
people on how everything is their fault.

Posted by: BSR at March 20, 2013 10:03 AM (CBCxo)

Bingo.    The race hustlers' idea of a "conversation" is the same as the Dim-o-rats' idea of a "compromise."  

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 20, 2013 10:13 AM (FsUAO)


I usually just go with a cattle prod.  Diaper change after, but it slows them down enough.

Posted by: Vic at March 20, 2013 10:14 AM (53z96)

This would be termed racist by the racists but the 25% of illegitimate white babies is based on the mother's race and a rather significant percentage of that percentage would show that the baby's father was of a different race.  Just saying.  

Posted by: EC at March 20, 2013 10:16 AM (GQ8sn)

*arches eyebrow*  You make it a habit of taking small children's candy, EC?

And no.  Believe it or not, I am   one of the few chicks who has never babysat.   Which is odd, because kids actually seem to like me.  :\    Not sure why that is.     The    looming 5'11" woman with a    huge mass of curly copper hair akin to Bigfoot would have scared ME to death as a kid.  

Well they don't ever punch back... what? Everyone here was thinking it.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 20, 2013 10:13 AM (FsUAO)

So true.   Very true.

So Colorado has gone full libtard with their gun    legislation now.    I dearly hope our CO 'rons and 'ettes are looking for somewhere else to live.   I recommend following Magpul and any other gun manufacturers when they pull up stakes and leave the state.

I still love the Cheney's so mean line.

Cheney is so mean he takes candy away from babies and then gives it to diabetic babies.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 20, 2013 10:19 AM (VjL9S)


Most county sheriffs have basically told Denver to go fuck themselves.  They won't enforce it.  I'm buying the entire El Paso county sheriff's dept pizza today to show my appreciation.  Molon Labe bitches.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 20, 2013 10:20 AM (tkWnt)

lol!

Sounds like the perfect scene for    one of those   auto-generated   pulp sci-fi titles.    "The Priestess of the Turbines."

(heee, here's a good one:  "Scintillating Nymphs.")

Posted by: tangonine at March 20, 2013 10:11 AM (r119a)

Sadly no.  My lapel will have to go unpinned. 

And guilt?  For what?  That there used to be white people here who used to own black people?  That every single person associated with either the owners or the owned is now dead?  That the United States is the only country in the history of the world to fight a war against itself to (in part) destroy the idea that one man can own another?

I'll pass on the pin.  I've done nothing (in this context) for which I should feel guilty. 

"Here's a clue: Mitt Romney was a fucking disaster and the assholes who pushed him on us need to lose their fucking jobs"

Yep. Nailed it.

RE: CO governor Hickenlooper and the repercussions of him signing the gun legislation, the CO Republicans don't seem to have a clear front runner for the 2014 nomination.  None of the names listed in this article have strong statewide recognition.  But the gun control issue may just light a fire under some Republican butts.  We'll see. 

http://tinyurl.com/brgqhmg

Posted by: EC at March 20, 2013 10:24 AM (GQ8sn)

Who doesn't?  

I bet Mooch steals candy from babies all the time and then binges on    her ill-gotten gains at night, shoveling handfuls of Smarties and    Tootsie Rolls into her mouth like   Slimer attacking a plate of cocktail weenies.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 10:25 AM (4OvDk)

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Opposing free trade with Colombia now? /

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 20, 2013 10:21 AM (4df7R)

*****

Not leaving MWR.  I was born here and will continue to fight the good fight.  Time and God are on our side.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 20, 2013 10:30 AM (/kI1Q)

Yes it does.  But only on those who are still mentally a small child.

"The Scintillating Nymphs of Asse"

That sounds like the title of a Gor novel.  lol!

"The Scintillating Nymphs of Asse"
That sounds like the title of a Gor novel. lol!"

or an early King Crimson LP...

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 20, 2013 10:31 AM (pLvWv)

Power to you, Seamus.  Hopefully you and likeminded Coloradans can turn your state around.  

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 20, 2013 10:03 AM (wR+pz)

Gonzaga.  Kelly Olynyk already graduated, 3.6 gpa Business, pursuing Masters. Academic All American.  Mike Hart 3.5, Business/Finance already graduated.

Guess they're done for. 1st round out.

Posted by: EC at March 20, 2013 10:31 AM (GQ8sn)

So approximately 51% of the country then.

Posted by: Clownf*cker at March 20, 2013 10:13 AM (CGjum)

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Actually there's been a significant white influx to Philadelphia, transplants are arriving from all over the country. It started post WTC attack, with the Manhattan refugees. The trickle became a flood and the gentrifiers are experiencing an existential crisis once they realize that they have chosen an urban jungle in which to build their state of the art townhomes.

It's funny that the article references 19th and Diamond specifically. A friend had just told me that an investor we know bought an apartment building there. I was stunned. "wtf was he thinking?". After a series of criminal incidents, he finally threw in the towel, and surprisingly, quickly found a buyer for the apt. building. The straw that broke the camel's back was when a female tenant was assaulted by two men who pushed her into the building when they saw her opening her door. An alert neighbor notified the police.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 10:33 AM (4OvDk)

And if they DO manage to   be successful,   God forbid they    should ever    forget "where they came from,"   lest they be accused of "acting white."  

How is it that being accused of "acting white" is okay if you're a minority, but if someone were to     accuse a white person of "acting black,"   it would be a legitimately racist thing to say?

But I bet we could sell this story easy: wanton lust and sex amongst the nymphs and humans. Set against the dramatic backdrop of a leaking nuclear waste dump! And the brave scientist who tries to warn them but is shouted down as a kill joy. Until the night the dam holding the uranium tailings failed during a rain storm... from that unholy contamination arose the 'Scintillating Nymphs of Asse.'

WRITE IT!

Cue Roger Corman!
 

lol!   I think Corman had to retire to his bunk for a while after reading that description.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 20, 2013 10:31 AM (pLvWv)

Amen.  Roots here since the 40's.  I've lived in a lot of places, but when the sun rises in the morning and kisses the mountains, well, let's just say it's a special place.  There's tough folks here, and like those Sangre de Cristo mountains, we'll weather this nonsense just fine.  It's temporary silliness.

Posted by: EC at March 20, 2013 10:37 AM (GQ8sn)

His son also has a certification.

"ShawnÂ’s son is also someone who has been certified by the state of New Jersey. In order for a person under the age of 18 to go hunting in New Jersey, they must be accompanied by a parent or adult supervisor, and they must also pass a state firearms hunter safety test. The young Mr. Moore passed the test and his father was NOT his instructor."

Posted by: EC at March 20, 2013 10:37 AM (GQ8sn)

Also the kid just got his accreditation and a new .22 gun. 

Posted by: clemenza at March 20, 2013 10:41 AM (HMQ8k)

no one talks about fight club.

Posted by: EC at March 20, 2013 10:37 AM (GQ8sn)

Which reminds me of that stupid story from Illinois about the legislator who wants to ban the    butchering and sale of lion meat.     Who the hell cares?   Seriously?   It's not like he's doing it because lions    are endangered or anything.   He just doesn't think it's right that people should eat lion.   I expect he'd get the vapors if he ever     found out that people eat kangaroo,   and that guinea pig is a common     meal     down in South America.

"Conversation on race? I've never heard of it."

Me neither.

Posted by: SurferDoc at March 20, 2013 10:34 AM (6H6FZ)::::

Is it a crime  to take a picture of your child holding a firearm?  Surely it must be.  After all, they DID  arrest him, didn't they?

Didn't  they?

ESPN revealed Wednesday that Obama picked the Hoosiers to win it all in his 2013 bracket. He predicted Louisville, Ohio State and Florida would round out the Final Four.

If I were Indiana I'd be pissed that he gave them the kiss of death

Posted by: SurferDoc at March 20, 2013 10:39 AM (6H6FZ)

That's the problem though.   You shouldn't have to worry about assholes knocking at your door when you've DONE NOTHING WRONG and have in fact done EVERYTHING RIGHT.

Next it'll be that someone takes a picture of the pieces     of     french toast they cut up for their     cowboy-obsessed     kid to look like a pair of     wild    west six shooters.

BTW, if the dumb bastard didn't put up a picture of his kid with a gun, nobody would know or care who he is or what he does. He put it up as a "Fuck you" and got "Fuck me? No. Fuck you!" for an answer.

Change "gun" to homebrew kit, or longbow.

Point is there was and is nothing wrong going on in the picture.  Just some hyperventilating busybody got her panties in a wad and SWATed a family.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 20, 2013 10:44 AM (1Jaio)

lol... right?  I can't think of a worse curse than that shitbag rooting for me.  I'd just not even show up for the game.

Posted by: SurferDoc at March 20, 2013 10:39 AM (6H6FZ) ::::

What other exercises  of our rights must we  curtail to avoid  being  illegally  raided by the po-po?

Why is it  "common sense"  that you can expect a warrantless search  for doing nothing illegal?

Since    Obammy only seems to care about his brackets    and    golf,   maybe we need to get someone on ESPN to actually    ask him about    something important, like North Korea.

Of course that'd never happen, since 95% of the talent at ESPN are mouthbreathing dickwad   libtards.

Surfer Doc,

Why isn't the  woman from CPS who refused to identify herself  or show any credentials, and yet got the police to conduct an illegal search to blame?

Because he was "asking for it?"

Attention, all you Moronettes with your whorish dress and stompy boots.   

Thought experiment:

I don't know the race of the father or son in question in the    Facebook photo "controversy."    So you all tell me:   if they    had been of a different race,    would the reaction be the same?   Would it be worse?   Or would it    never have    happened?

Don't put up a picture of your kid holding a gun if you don't want assholes knocking at your door. He needs a certification for Common Sense.

NO!  That gives power to the assholes, who are in great need of a public and thorough smackdown.  I will not bow or kowtow to namby-pampy assholes.  The Dad did the right thing in asserting his rights.

He also kept his cool under pressure.  Seems like a  great guy to stand shoulder to shoulder with. 

Posted by: Whatev at March 20, 2013 10:51 AM (A7Wh1)

If "flaky" and "a little strange" were     illegal,   half the population of rural New England would be    in the clink.    You know what I'm talkin' 'bout, Mainas, Vermonters, and fellow NH-ites.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 10:51 AM (4OvDk) :::

Yep, and after  my lawsuit against  CPS and the Police Dept, I'd be sliding down a mound of   taxpayer dollars like Scrooge McDuck.  Fuck this  evil,  power-abusing  c*nt and  whoever made the decision to dispatch those cops on that  bullshit raid.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 10:51 AM (4OvDk)

*****

True, but I think Surfer Doc's point was that you almost have to expect backlash for standing up for your rights in the current environment.  And we all need to accept that as the reality.  Each of us needs to pick how we push back. 

Posted by: eman at March 20, 2013 10:15 AM (64rcm)

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Oh, I see you're aware of "RedState."

I got swatted with a former girlfriend when we left her 15 year old son to babysit his 11 year old sister for a couple of hours. 

Ex husband called CPS and the cops who came to the house as we were arriving home.  They tried to indimidate my girlfriend and myself and we both just laughed at them.  They knew they were way out of bounds and gave up with the threats and just lectured us on their way out.  We laughed at that too.  Cops don't like to be laughed at by the way. 

Posted by: EC at March 20, 2013 10:57 AM (GQ8sn)

*****

Yes, it is.

I sure as shit do want to leave CO, but Mrs. Mahon says we can't yet.

Short argument. But I'm working on how to get out from our financial obligations and maybe change her mind.

Posted by: BSR at March 20, 2013 10:29 AM (CBCxo)

______________

 Headline at Drudge:

TFG's limo breaks down in Israel.

Too. Fucking. Funny!

Posted by: EC at March 20, 2013 11:01 AM (GQ8sn)

I blame  the Sequester!

Posted by: SurferDoc at March 20, 2013 10:34 AM (6H6FZ)

Interesting newsletter you've got there, Doc.  How are your feelings on fluoridated water or the ChiComs stealing our precious bodily fluids?

I told guy at work about the CPS story. He wasn't surprised because NJ state troopers showed up at his hunting buddy's house - in PENNSYLVANIA - to confiscate his guns. His wife had fled to NJ to be with parents and told LE there that she felt threatened by her husband's cache of guns, which happened to reside in the state across the Delaware river.

When he protested, LE told him to shut up, that they could do it the easy way or a way that would be really difficult for him.

After they left (with his weapons), he called one of his other hunting buddies who was a Fed. His guns were returned in short order.

There was no history of domestic violence, in fact the guy's ex-wife had a history of filing frivolous reports against him. If a woman is truly being terrorized by a domestic partner, it has to be addressed. But it looks as though we've entered a Brave New World where women can use law enforcement and other agencies to harass their husbands.

Posted by: SurferDoc at March 20, 2013 10:55 AM (6H6FZ)

And in the case of walking in a    bad neighborhood after dark, I'd agree with you.    But the difference there is that the ones who would assault    you    are     the criminals.      You're unwise decision    could lead to    being attacked by criminal elements.     You might be accused    of   being    criminally   stupid, but who knows what would cause   you to have to walk through that neighborhood when you did,   or why.    

In the case of this father and his son,   the man did absolutely nothing wrong.   He took a legal photo of his son legally holding a legal firearm and shared it online.   It's the kind of    photo that millions of parents have    taken of their children, have shared of their children,   since photography was invented.      In this case    the man's legal actions didn't expose him to harassment by criminal elements;   rather, he was harassed by      legal   so-called     authorities    who    should   g-ddamn know better.      They violated his Fourth Amendment rights, not to mention his Second Amendment ones   and those of his son,   for absolutely no reason.   None at all.  

So maybe your     argument is correct,     but only if you agree to equate the     LEOs and government officials       with criminals;       in which case the man STILL isn't at fault.     The fault lies with the    illegal actions of government-sponsored    hacks.

TFG's limo breaks down in Israel.

The Lord works in mysterious ways.

Posted by: kallisto at March 20, 2013 11:05 AM (jm/9g)

Color me "meh" but it's not a as "new" of a world as you think.

I've got family members who have figured out how to use the power of the medical establishment to interfere with how we care for my mother-in-law.

Give a group too much power and too little oversight and this is what you end up with.

Posted by: BSR at March 20, 2013 10:29 AM (CBCxo)

But it looks as though we've entered a Brave New World where women can use law enforcement and other agencies to harass their husbands.

Red Pill.  Don't leave out imprison or impoverish.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 20, 2013 11:07 AM (tkWnt)

DO IT OMG.

Obama's limo breakdown caused by it being filled with diesel instead of gasoline.

You Had One Job!

Posted by: SurferDoc at March 20, 2013 10:55 AM (6H6FZ)

So showing a picture of your child holding a legal object - a child, moreover, who is completely accredited and trained on said object - is now "unwise?"  Tell me, O great and powerful Oz, what other objects is it "unwise" to show children holding?  Should an NYC parent not post a pic of their child holding a Big Gulp?  Should a parent in Provincetown not post a pic of their child with a Chik-Fil-A sandwich?

With "friends " like you, the Second Amendment doesn't need enemies.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 20, 2013 11:13 AM (BAS5M)

And the replacement limo is on it way from.....Jordan?!  W.T.F.?!

OK - not to bring back a dead and buried subject before its time (after all, it's only been 1 day).... (SWIDT?)

Read through yesterday's discussion and while I do think Ace was being obtuse, didn't find it offensive. BUT.....

There was one issue that he pointed out that I don't think was ever properly addressed and that was the focus on male homosexuality vs. female homosexuality, but there is a broader context that relates the issue to the human condition, specifically the male condition as it relates to sexuality and that bears on society and sexual culture generally.

The problem is this: men, generally as compared to women, have a much higher libido during pubescense extending into early adulthood. Men also are less risk averse and can be disdainful of the consequences of their actions; again, this condition is aggravated due to hormonal condition, and the relative youth/lack of wisdom of individuals in this cohort.

In a heterosexual man, this condition is tempered by societal mores AND by the (historically) less lebidinous, more concerned with CONSEQUENCES heterosexual female (after all, she can't walk away from pregnancy). If it makes sense to you, consider the male/female condition as paired sine/cosine waves.

In a homosexual relationship however, there is the potential for AMPLIFICATION (sine-sine paired wave, or cosine-cosine paired wave) of what might be considered less-desireable traits in either homosexual pairing; men who engage in random, unemotional, unattached sexual encounters vs. the tradional lesbian second date, complete with U-Haul. Additionally, by engaging in a homosexual lifestyle the individual has already thrown off traditional societal mores, so there is no well-known guidebook for youthful individuals to proceed. This unbounded condition has the potential to result in extremes, some of which would be considered to be directly harmful to society; this might include the spread of STDs, but could also include public displays of nudity and outright sexuality that occur in San Francisco (and occasionally in P-Town).

The thing is, you can also see this unbounded behavior occuring in heterosexual males when societal mores are disregarded; see Steubenville Rape. Similarly, you also have the unfettered fapping brigade.

One of the points of Christianity at least as I've learned to understand it is that one of the reasons that these acts are sinful (aside from the obvious, rape) is that the actor can be subsumed by the act and become subservient to his own lusts and desires, and in that sense, we are not free to be the best people that we can be. If you're spending an inordinate amount of time dialed in on sex then you're not spending time being Christianly to your neighbors; you aren't making the world a better place. You're simply satisfying a desire with an act that becomes empty because it has no meaning or purpose.

Now, having said all of this, I am minorly conflicted on one point and that is the issue of homosexual marriage. Where two men become married and maintain a monogomous relationship there seems to be societal benefits of stability, health (less spread of STDs), and the potential for the sexual act to have a similar effect in heterosexual sex of creating and nurturing a loving bond. Not trying to be offensive or obtuse, but speaking in a bit of ignorance here so feel free to chime in - I simply don't know if the sexual act between men can have precisely the same physio-chemical responses that result in a strengthening of a loving relationship the way they do in hetero sex. Again, this question has more to do with how women are different and what they bring to the table. To the extent that there exists a gradation of sexuality, perhaps some men are more closely wired to the feminine responses and this result could be effected.

Next, why would I even be open to this line of questioning or doubt on this issue based on what is fairly explicitly in the Bible? Ultimately it is not for me to judge. Also, with Christ the rules changed. A number of the laws and rules from Lev. et al., while commanded, seem to have been primarily for the purpose of protecting the society from problems with infection, dysentery, etc. (the food laws). Once hygiene and food preparation methods improved, these laws could reasonably be dismissed. Would homosexual marriage effectively deal with the societal ills that are associated with homosexuality? Would it lead to relationships where the individuals were able to devote time to their friends, relatives and neighbors? In other words, on the spectrum of being the best person they can be, does a marriage advance that goal? Perhaps. (I've also seen conflicting evidence, including a propensity for homosexual marriages to be 'open' thus negating some of the societal benefits.)

What I don't like is that no one wants to have an actual *discussion* on these issues. You're either a religious bigot or a sexual bigot.

And to answer your question Ace, the reason that the focus is on male homosexuality is that it is within that sphere that most of the negative connotations/societal ills are evidenced.

Now if you don't mind, it's time for my daily dose of 'Too many dicks on the dancefloor'. Best Regards, NED

276Obama's limo breakdown caused by it being filled with diesel instead of gasoline.

WTF? No sunshine, lollipops or unicorn farts?

Notice how social workers are playing a bigger role in the gun confiscation schemes?

These are the same social workers, btw, who regularly   fuck up and miss cases of genuine child abuse.   Hence the terrible stories we get several times a year of a child being starved to death, or beaten to death, or    shackled in a closet for years     and treated like an animal    by their  "caregivers,"   all of whom      will have    been investigated     by social services     at some time     before    the     tragedy occurred.         And we trust these people to make an assessment of    who should or shouldn't own a gun?

Look, I know not all social workers are incompetent hacks.     I know a lot of social workers have enormous case loads   that can make it difficult to catch every bad situation    before it red lines.        A good social worker is like a good teacher:   they're precious as gold.    But the fact of the matter is that most social workers     are low GPA bureaucrats      who are in their job     because they couldn't find one outside of government.       And even the good ones,   when they're   struggling under a heavy case load,    are apt to make mistakes.   

So just STOP.

Obama's limo breakdown caused by it being filled with diesel instead of gasoline.

OMG OMG OMG LAUGHING. SO. HARD!

 The category is: "Giant Blocks Of Text."

What causes your  eyes to glaze over for $200?

I guess in Israel the diesel pump is not colour-coded green and with a different diameter nozzle?

That was my question, Anna.  You'd find it impossible to put diesel in a gasoline-burning car in the States, at least without using a funnel.

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Your typical social worker makes $25K a year. That kind of pay doesn't exactly attract the best and brightest minds out there.  It's fucked up because there are a lot of kids out there being abused and nobody does a thing about it. And then you have this type of case where limited resources are wasted. I don't know if this is the social worker who is to blame or the "system" but in either case the whole thing is fucked up.

Curtis Bostic 7,149 - 13 percent

Larry Grooms 6,656 - 12 percent

Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at March 20, 2013 11:20 AM (73P6 :::

Just messin' with you, pal.  Remember - two carriage returns to make a paragraph   break on this stupid commenting software.

If you wanted to get in on the discussion,  you can always touch dicks with us on the last thread.

two carriage returns to make a paragraph break

Carriage returns?

"WTF is Petrol?" - TFG

Say it with me now:  Al-loo-min-e-um  and shed-ule

Two nations  separated  by  a common language

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 20, 2013 11:26 AM (/ZHx6) ::::

See the enter key?  See how it's got an arrow pointing down and then to the left?  It used to be called the "Return" key.

*sigh*

Once upon  a  time, there were these machines called typewriters...

See the enter key? See how it's got an arrow pointing down and then to the left? It used to be called the "Return" key

Got it.

It was the "carriage" bit which puzzled me.

:::Is it normal for a president to bring his own limo from the US to Israel?:::

Yes.  The President's  motorade  is flown ahead of time to where he will be landing.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2013 11:33 AM (UOM4

And he brings his own limo.

It was the "carriage" bit which puzzled me.

Oh, lord.  Do I feel old.

Posted by: Californio at March 20, 2013 11:31 AM (2eIwi)

Yes, the entire limo entourage, plus ambulances, helicopters and other vehicles.  Imagine AF1 as the carrier in the center of an armada.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 20, 2013 11:34 AM (UU0OF)

Here ya go:

It's a cool story, bro!

Got it.

It was the "carriage" bit which puzzled me.<<<<<

That's what was being  rotated one (or two)  lines and  "returned" to its  starting position - the carriage that  held the  paper.  Later on, the  daisy wheel or type ball was the element that was returned, and the paper didn't move.

Posted by: Tami at March 20, 2013 11:33 AM (X6akg

Lol

The word "carriage" in "carriage return" is a bit of an anachronism, no?<<<<

Yeah, probably.  I took a typing class in high school on actual typewriters.  You could hear the noise all down that hallway.  Nowadays, Typing class is called "Keyboarding"  and it sounds absolutely foreign  and unserious to my ears.

:::“We almost made it big.. We almost had a chance at power. We came that close, that close,” Biden said. :::

And then the  Vice President  swatted at some  imaginary bees around his head.

“We almost made it big.. We almost had a chance at power. We came that close, that close,” Biden said.

Yes, Joey.   Because    in a world in which your leftard    brethren are constantly      dubbing the slightest mention of   religion in the public sphere as "emergent theocracy," what you want to do is go out there on the world's biggest stage   and talk about how    an    American-born   Pope   would have given the US more power.  

What a fucking buffoon.

358 That's what was being rotated one (or two) lines and "returned" to its starting position - the carriage that held the paper.

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The bit being rotated is the platen. It is carried on the carriage, unless you're using something like a Selectric...

::::The bit being rotated is the platen. It is carried on the carriage, unless you're using something like a Selectric...::::

That is correct.  Thanks.