October 05, 2013
— Ace Well, he didn't storm it. He did jog into it though.
Of course a cop had to assault him -- pushing him -- as he was leaving.
Just to show who's boss. As the State feels compelled to do.
Great pictures of civil disobedience at the link.
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Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 05, 2013 01:46 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Self-Elected Blog Police at October 05, 2013 01:47 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Big Ben at October 05, 2013 01:48 PM (I5Htn)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2013 01:50 PM (N/Sup)
Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2013 01:50 PM (ELdpj)
Posted by: tubal at October 05, 2013 01:51 PM (2NeaA)
Posted by: nothinglefttolose at October 05, 2013 01:51 PM (J3IzX)
Drove to Buford Dam. Despite the statement on the GA DNR website that "all state parks will be open, a Park Ranger driving a US Corps of Engineers vehicle had locked the gates to the Lower Overlook Park, a favorite fishing spot.
Ranger said that " the entire stretch of the Chattahoochee River has been closed due to the shutdown." I was so angry I could only spit and shake my head. He looked straight at me then at the ground sort of embarrassed and said sympathetically, " I know. Tell me about it."
We then went to a county boat ramp which accesses the Chattahoochee. Their was a sign on a yellow barrier that said " All National Parks are closed due to the shutdown" . This despite the fact that the ramp is NOT a national Park.
Someone pushed the barricades out of the way. A large group fished, kayaked and had a great day. The guys fishing just sorta smiled and nodded at each other. We ignored the subject od shutdown completely
(It led to a good discussion about tyrants throughout history with my 12 yr old later though. He will remember the Obamasign forever. )
I wonder if I will come home next week to a yellow sign telling me that the Chattahoochee which supplies 80% of the Metro Atlanta water supply, will be closed at the water main at the street.
Posted by: noone, really at October 05, 2013 01:52 PM (5ikDv)
I will keep banging this drum but when you elect, of your own free will, to go work for the public, the public has every single right to know your name when you act within your public duties.
If you don't like being Alinsky'd when you do something stupid? Well, there's a damn easy way to avoid that.
Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at October 05, 2013 01:53 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 05, 2013 01:54 PM (9jLim)
Posted by: rd at October 05, 2013 01:54 PM (D+lxs)
Posted by: pep at October 05, 2013 01:55 PM (6TB1Z)
I seriously don't know what to make of all this. I love seeing the pushback, and it gives me hope that Americans are still Americans. But then I remember all those oblivious mouth-breathers out there, riding their recumbent bikes in the street, tweeting about their awesome breakfast at the place with the steel cut oats, and love LMFAO.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 05, 2013 01:56 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: EC at October 05, 2013 01:57 PM (doBIb)
"He ended the month with a display of resolve and strength that could redefine his presidency. All it took was a government shutdown."
Indeed. Indeed.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 05, 2013 01:57 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 05, 2013 01:57 PM (9jLim)
Not sure about DC but IIRC taking pics of cops is a crime now in MD.
Posted by: DaveA at October 05, 2013 01:57 PM (DL2i+)
This behavior is reminiscent of watching a kid meltdown in the checkout line.
Posted by: garrett at October 05, 2013 01:58 PM (tijLK)
>>>I'm beginning to have serious doubts about Barry's mental stability. I'm not kidding. This is getting biblical, as in Samson in the temple. It's one thing to do stupid things like this initially to see if you get away with it. It's another entirely to do this when, as the lefties are fond of saying, "the whole world is watching". Or at least the American electorate.
.
.It's the weekend. No one is watching but us. Come Monday about 0800 I suspect there will be less fences around the DC area. This is all about Obama being mocked and butt hurt right now and his petty childish reaction to that.
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 01:58 PM (AHX9J)
Posted by: steevy at October 05, 2013 01:59 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: EC at October 05, 2013 01:59 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Jmel at October 05, 2013 01:59 PM (cfFqn)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 05, 2013 01:59 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 05, 2013 01:59 PM (bxpf3)
Posted by: EC at October 05, 2013 02:00 PM (doBIb)
All we need is one cop or ranger to say, "fuck this shit" and turn in his badge and gun.
Waiting....
Posted by: EC at October 05, 2013 05:57 PM (doBIb)
How about just staying home for a few days? The Blue Flu.
Posted by: rd at October 05, 2013 02:00 PM (D+lxs)
All we need is one cop or ranger to say, "fuck this shit" and turn in his badge and gun.
Waiting....
An outbreak of the Blue Flu is much more likely.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 05, 2013 02:00 PM (0IhFx)
Our enemies are watching this with rapt attention and taking notes
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 05, 2013 02:01 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 05, 2013 02:01 PM (NjJzM)
I hope my fellow limp Christians remember this, and stop being so damned accommodating to the tyrant-in-chief. Christianity has not survived this long by its' followers taking the "sheep" thing literally - in other words being pussies - or moral cowards.
Posted by: tubal at October 05, 2013 02:01 PM (2NeaA)
Posted by: T. at October 05, 2013 02:01 PM (duTpJ)
Yup. We should be making these people stars. Time to out Alinsky the Alinskyites.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 05, 2013 02:01 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: EROWMER at October 05, 2013 02:01 PM (OONaw)
Posted by: DaveA at October 05, 2013 05:57 PM (DL2i+)
WTF? It is not illegal to taking pictures of cops while in the performance of their public duties.
Insty goes off about that all the time.
Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at October 05, 2013 02:02 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Big Ben at October 05, 2013 02:03 PM (I5Htn)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 05, 2013 02:03 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Putin at October 05, 2013 02:04 PM (gWHwW)
Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2013 02:05 PM (HjPtV)
It's interesting to be certain.
When I was an 18 year old in 1990 had you bet me I'd trust Putin over an American(heh) President named Obama...
I'd have lost that 1000 bucks.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 05, 2013 02:06 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Brewer at October 05, 2013 02:06 PM (WjMgb)
Is it time for us to flood DC? Occupy the memorials, dare them to kick us out?
If so, how far do we go?
Posted by: rd at October 05, 2013 02:07 PM (D+lxs)
This isn't a tantrum. This isn't child's play. This is serious business conducted by a president of the United States.
I responded to one of Barky's tweets, (apparently that federal employee is 'Essential'), and called him a petty tyrant.
Spending the evening getting my receipts, and records in order for the expected call from the IRS.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 05, 2013 02:07 PM (0IhFx)
Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at October 05, 2013 02:08 PM (/sohm)
Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2013 06:05 PM (HjPtV)
Obama is ruling, not governing. He does not come from an American background, but was raised under authoritarian teachings.
He'll never stop being what he is-a megalomaniac.
Posted by: tubal at October 05, 2013 02:08 PM (2NeaA)
Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2013 02:08 PM (HjPtV)
Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 05, 2013 02:09 PM (fsem8)
This happened.
We just got home . Son played football and after the game wanted to try out some new lures.
Posted by: noone, really at October 05, 2013 02:09 PM (5ikDv)
Voting for RINO's every 2 years is not the correct answer.
Posted by: Big Ben at October 05, 2013 02:10 PM (I5Htn)
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 05, 2013 02:11 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: no good deed at October 05, 2013 02:11 PM (k55Fc)
Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 05, 2013 02:11 PM (/OUqZ)
Now Obama wants to change the discussion to the Redskins / aka raaaacism.
He's lost.
FINISH HIM!
Seriously, stupid GOP, FINISH HIM!
Posted by: Amanda Marcotte at October 05, 2013 02:11 PM (X/+QT)
39>> The United fucking States of America. Just cause a bunch of America hating shit stains have been elected and are doing their best to set us against each other is no reason to throw up our hands and wail like pussies. Isn't it ironic that Americas greatest generation is leading this fight while others younger and more capable are sitting on the sidelines?
Stand up, speak out..and when push comes to shove be ready to fight this petulant, wannabe dictator.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 05, 2013 02:11 PM (jNNPU)
Posted by: DavidR at October 05, 2013 02:12 PM (/B8uv)
Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 05, 2013 02:12 PM (/OUqZ)
Can you believe The Jerk has closed pull-offs along highways that travelers can use to stop and take a look at Mt. Rushmore?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 05, 2013 05:46 PM (DmNpO)"
Those orange cones are a major safety issue for cars that NEED (i.e. disabled cars) to pull over but can't.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 05, 2013 02:13 PM (KL49F)
Good grief! TFG is OBSESSED.
When does his goon squad start deserting him? Monday morning, I hope. Even the MSM won't be able to ignore it then.
Posted by: PJ at October 05, 2013 02:13 PM (ZWaLo)
Posted by: The Farmer at October 05, 2013 02:13 PM (eBupg)
Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 05, 2013 02:13 PM (fsem8)
Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2013 06:05 PM (HjPtV)
"Nudging" the serfs.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 05, 2013 02:13 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: Putin at October 05, 2013 06:04 PM (gWHwW)
I'd rather that he voluntarily drank hemlock tea.
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at October 05, 2013 02:13 PM (MnSla)
I took photos of the BARRYCADE and the stupid sign that was erected across the parking lot fo the public boat ramp.
Kid had fun but I was watching the NPS helicopter overflying the Chattahoochee. I was prepping for a confrontation which didn't come.
My son said this was "like Egypt" in the Bible and Obama is Pharoah.
Love that kid.
Posted by: noone, really at October 05, 2013 02:13 PM (5ikDv)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 05, 2013 02:14 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 05, 2013 02:14 PM (/OUqZ)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2013 02:14 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Billy Ayers at October 05, 2013 02:15 PM (m4gAJ)
Posted by: steevy at October 05, 2013 02:15 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 05, 2013 02:15 PM (DmNpO)
here's a dirty little secret:
the godamn GOP is on obama's side in all this!
Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 05, 2013 06:13 PM (fsem
The vichy republicans dont want to fight the turd reich.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 05, 2013 02:15 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at October 05, 2013 02:15 PM (/OUqZ)
If you do run into any of these officers, be nice, do not use foul language. But be sure to ask them if their Mommy and Daddy are proud of them?
Do their kids look up to them as they enforce vindictive petty rules of a petty tyrant?
Make them feel small.
Make them cry.
Make them apply for PTSD.
Posted by: rd at October 05, 2013 02:16 PM (D+lxs)
The United fucking States of America. Just cause a bunch of America hating shit stains have been elected and are doing their best to set us against each other is no reason to throw up our hands and wail like pussies. Isn't it ironic that Americas greatest generation is leading this fight while others younger and more capable are sitting on the sidelines?
Stand up, speak out..and when push comes to shove be ready to fight this petulant, wannabe dictator.
Wolverines!
I had the idea of photoshopping the wolverines 'tag' on various closed monuments. I didn't for two reasons:
1. Photoshop? Even if I had it, I don't know how to do that.
2. I'd be afraid some people would actually try to tag our monuments.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 05, 2013 02:16 PM (0IhFx)
>>Is it time for us to flood DC? Occupy the memorials, dare them to kick us out?
If so, how far do we go?
.
.I have nothing to do for the next 30 years or so.
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 02:16 PM (AHX9J)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 05, 2013 02:17 PM (NjJzM)
Posted by: SFGoth at October 05, 2013 02:17 PM (V/gGh)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 05, 2013 02:18 PM (WjLUf)
When does his goon squad start deserting him? Monday morning, I hope. Even the MSM won't be able to ignore it then.
The MSM !IS! part of his goonsquad.
Posted by: rd at October 05, 2013 02:18 PM (D+lxs)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 05, 2013 02:19 PM (WjLUf)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 05, 2013 02:19 PM (IA4Jx)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 05, 2013 02:19 PM (X/+QT)
Posted by: garrett at October 05, 2013 02:19 PM (tijLK)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 05, 2013 02:20 PM (8719b)
Now Obama wants to change the discussion to the Redskins / aka raaaacism.
He's lost.
FINISH HIM!
Seriously, stupid GOP, FINISH HIM!
Posted by: Amanda Marcotte at October 05, 2013 06:11 PM (X/+QT)
Yeah, the GOP dont really fight back here , it's barely enough to pretend to their voters.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 05, 2013 02:20 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: tubal at October 05, 2013 05:51 PM (2NeaA)
Just out of curiosity: what uniform have you earned the right to wear?
Posted by: tangonine at October 05, 2013 02:21 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: T. at October 05, 2013 02:21 PM (duTpJ)
Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2013 02:22 PM (ELdpj)
Posted by: Sister Sestina at October 05, 2013 02:23 PM (1wI7y)
Posted by: and the horse you rode in on at October 05, 2013 02:23 PM (z1JtH)
Life got flipped, turned upside down since the Fresh Prince of Chicago was elected.
Posted by: no good deed at October 05, 2013 02:24 PM (k55Fc)
Posted by: JQP at October 05, 2013 02:24 PM (U4GjV)
My son said this was "like Egypt" in the Bible and Obama is Pharoah.
Love that kid.
Posted by: noone, really at October 05, 2013 06:13 PM (5ikDv)
How much did that helicopter flight cost?
Someone, anyone, from the GOP needs to go out there and start demanding to know where the money is coming from to do this.
Look, GEICO informs me that a tree falling in the forest do make noise so there's a chance it would get some press attention.
Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at October 05, 2013 02:24 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2013 02:24 PM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at October 05, 2013 02:24 PM (/sohm)
That right there . . . nice, atc.
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 02:25 PM (8lmkt)
Does this prick actually think this shit will stand?
Posted by: and the horse you rode in on at October 05, 2013 06:23 PM (z1JtH)
Well , he was reelected , the media adores him even when he beats them. The GOP fights him reluctantly only to pretend being an oppo party.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 05, 2013 02:26 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2013 02:26 PM (a4Omg)
Coming soon to Mt. Rushmore: people with pointy sticks to poke your eyes out if you look at the monument.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 05, 2013 02:27 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: garrett at October 05, 2013 02:27 PM (tijLK)
Posted by: zombie at October 05, 2013 02:28 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 05, 2013 06:27 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 02:28 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2013 02:28 PM (ELdpj)
To be fair, drivers have long been warned not to park, stand, or stop while driving through the National Forests in Arizona after dark.
Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2013 02:28 PM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 05, 2013 02:29 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 05, 2013 02:29 PM (jucos)
U.S. Says Navy SEALs Stage Raid on Somali Militants
They nabbed a high level target. Which means he'll end up in New York, and his trial will drag on for six or seven years.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 05, 2013 02:29 PM (0IhFx)
Starts off telling her that he wants to burn all churches, and he is 'in conflict' with here, 'lots of people are in conflict' with her,
then says that 'when we're stronger, we will stop you', then says f*ck you while walking past her.
He does that to a lone young woman, but he's also promising to silence all of us 'when we're stronger'.
So much hate...
Posted by: Pepe Loco at October 05, 2013 02:29 PM (omBWL)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 05, 2013 02:30 PM (P/gm7)
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 02:30 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 05, 2013 02:30 PM (xCdYZ)
FYI
Pentagon Ordering Most of Its 400,000 Furloughed Civilians Back to Work -The Blaze (found via small dead animals)
http://tinyurl.com/o5sbcmz
Posted by: rd at October 05, 2013 02:30 PM (D+lxs)
Posted by: Jack at October 05, 2013 02:31 PM (gWHwW)
Eh maybe...I'm wondering if we should get in their face asking why they didn't tune up the occutards....
I really am to the "fuck them I'll take my beating" point.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 02:31 PM (9jfyN)
From my house we can see the Colorado National Monument. It still looks pretty. I wonder if Christo is a government employee and if so, is he furloughed?
(this comment only makes sense if you know who Christo is.)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2013 02:31 PM (N/Sup)
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 05, 2013 02:32 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: Chinotex at October 05, 2013 02:33 PM (H1NYX)
Posted by: UWP at October 05, 2013 02:33 PM (vj51i)
President's typically lead and therefore try to find a means to accommodate the people they serve.
Instead Obama has used the available auspices of the state, our state, to inflict hardship upon the people our government serves.
Our government, being used against us.
My guess is his approval rating tracks below 40 if this keeps up.
Posted by: Marcus at October 05, 2013 02:33 PM (vVTPh)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 05, 2013 05:59 PM (bxpf3)
The Conservative Treehouse just did a post on this provocation:
http://tinyurl.com/ncm5c4a
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 05, 2013 02:34 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 05, 2013 02:34 PM (xWRth)
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 05, 2013 02:34 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: EC at October 05, 2013 02:34 PM (doBIb)
Don't take the bait. Pointing and laughing is our best tactic--it'll drive him apeshit.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 05, 2013 02:34 PM (P/gm7)
Posted by: Jack at October 05, 2013 02:34 PM (gWHwW)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2013 02:35 PM (a4Omg)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 05, 2013 02:36 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Delmar at October 05, 2013 02:36 PM (tkP0O)
Don't give them that--make them lash out unprovoked.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at October 05, 2013 02:36 PM (P/gm7)
Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 05, 2013 02:37 PM (l8Vo2)
I went to "Gates" in Central Park. Pretty cool.
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 05, 2013 06:34 PM (ZshNr)
***
He did his valley curtain over Rifle Gap back in the 70's. Used to go fishing with my dad at Rifle Gap reservoir.
(link in nick for Valley Curtain)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2013 02:38 PM (N/Sup)
like we needed more proof that he's an America-hating asshole. that is unconscionable . . .
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 02:38 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: BuckIV at October 05, 2013 02:39 PM (CLfqv)
140 Our govt being used against us. Why that is just like Iran or Palestein. Or North Korea.
Posted by: Jack at October 05, 2013 06:34 PM (gWHwW)
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have."
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 05, 2013 02:39 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 05, 2013 02:40 PM (DmNpO)
And everyone knows it's the Republicans fault that the Boehnercades are going up at all the national parks. Why would Boehner think he could close the ocean?
Posted by: Anachronda at October 05, 2013 02:41 PM (U82Km)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 05, 2013 06:40 PM (DmNpO)
so, the C-in-C has not issued the "jag-off" order yet?
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 02:42 PM (8lmkt)
Why does Boehner hate the troops?
Posted by: LIV at October 05, 2013 02:42 PM (U82Km)
Posted by: Deety at October 05, 2013 02:42 PM (JOXw+)
>>54
Federal employees who are going along with this are just as big of cocksuckers as obama.
.
.And the lowly GS4 commissary checkout clerk who is living paycheck to paycheck is a huge cocksucker why?
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 02:43 PM (AHX9J)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 05, 2013 02:43 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Phinn at October 05, 2013 02:45 PM (oFH2D)
B/C they are part of a corrupt system that overpays them benefits wise wildly Chief?
Sorry but I have better things to do than be preached at by the DECA clowns about how MY side has to be the one to cave.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 02:45 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: T. at October 05, 2013 02:45 PM (duTpJ)
Posted by: RWC at October 05, 2013 02:46 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Flying Toaster Circus at October 05, 2013 02:46 PM (o3wbo)
You know he won't give it up without a fight . . .
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 02:47 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Anachronda at October 05, 2013 06:41 PM (U82Km)
Media tell the massess that it's the fault of GOP and the extemist tea party.
Even moby "conservative" media hacks like Kathleen Parker writes stuff like "Nearly any but the die-hardest tea party member regrets the shuttering of the U.S. government."
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 05, 2013 02:47 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: backhoe at October 05, 2013 02:47 PM (ULH4o)
Posted by: RWC at October 05, 2013 06:46 PM (LpbKr)
Cant let that "freedom" thing get out of hand...
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 05, 2013 02:48 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: osoloco at October 05, 2013 02:48 PM (R5JSa)
Posted by: Beagle at October 05, 2013 02:49 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2013 02:49 PM (ELdpj)
What we need is a mass sit-in at some of the most popular monuments in DC. What I mean by that is a few dozen people at each monument, sitting on the ground, seeing "We Shall Overcome".
And force the cops to drag the people in question out.
Posted by: junior at October 05, 2013 02:50 PM (wX+eD)
Fill the jails. Respect is earned and these goons will get none from me.
Posted by: navybrat at October 05, 2013 02:50 PM (wIJJF)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 05, 2013 02:50 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at October 05, 2013 02:51 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (Mentioned in Despatches) at October 05, 2013 02:51 PM (yL0v8)
You are, of course, quite correct, Beagle. However, the two stories linked on Drudge read like they were written by Vince Flynn (sniff) or Brad Thor. Can't think what possessed the Drudge org to snap to it on a weekend, but I'm glad they did. Course, I could have also read it from the Yahoo link, lol.
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 02:51 PM (8lmkt)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/nfnbkee
Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2013 02:52 PM (T7XIT)
A leg of our upcoming vacation is scheduled to be driven through Yosemite. As of last note the state highways through there are open, though you're not supposed to park, stop or stand.
There are some privately run concessions at Tioga Pass...gas station, market, etc. I imagine Obama's brownshirts have forced them to close.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 05, 2013 02:52 PM (0IhFx)
>>B/C they are part of a corrupt system that overpays them benefits wise wildly Chief?
Sorry but I have better things to do than be preached at by the DECA clowns about how MY side has to be the one to cave.
.
.So you have no response to the huge encompassing statement of hate against every single Federal employee that you just made and it is the lowly GS4 commissary checker who is preaching at you from his/her $10 an hour job.... OK, got it.
Hey it's OK, not a problem, your hate is your hate to own no matter who it is directed at. Not like my E4 's wife needed that job to make ends meet or anything while he was deployed to Iraq or anything.
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 02:54 PM (AHX9J)
http://is.gd/f5wdAF
Posted by: Jose at October 05, 2013 02:55 PM (zc/sw)
Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2013 02:56 PM (T7XIT)
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 02:56 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Brewer at October 05, 2013 02:56 PM (WjMgb)
*Tripping over a poorly made straw-man*
Dammit, quit leaving shit in the middle of the floor.
*Glares at someone...he knows who*
Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 05, 2013 02:57 PM (6rcHp)
I have bagged groceries on post, I've interacted with the angels.
Bronko Bama just established that in his eyes the DECA services are not needed.
Who am I to quibble with their godlings' choices?
Shut down DECA replace it with a Kroger for all I give a fuck.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 02:57 PM (9jfyN)
So,DHS procured the billions of rounds of ammo to keep America's parks safe... From other Americans.
Posted by: RWC
Remember when Responsible Conservatives(tm) told us not to worry because the zillions of rounds were just for training. The guns would never be pointed in our direction.
And anyway, the US had to buy in bulk. Saves money that way.
Good times, good times.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 05, 2013 02:57 PM (kdS6q)
@ 193 Whats stopping people from picking up the cones and removing them? Do it enough times and it will stop
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I'm guessing that NPS personnel are either present at the blocked off areas, or patrol by frequently.
Posted by: junior at October 05, 2013 02:57 PM (wX+eD)
>>I have bagged groceries on post, I've interacted with the angels.
Bronko Bama just established that in his eyes the DECA services are not needed.
Who am I to quibble with their godlings' choices?
Shut down DECA replace it with a Kroger for all I give a fuck.
.
.So why are you blaming the workers?
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 02:58 PM (AHX9J)
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 02:58 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2013 02:59 PM (T7XIT)
Posted by: Chilling the most at October 05, 2013 02:59 PM (gxtMZ)
Posted by: junior at October 05, 2013 06:57 PM (wX+eD)
Which, of course, they NEVER fuckin' did until this week. Srsly, I have been to some of these national parks, just try to find somebody working there. Now that the gubmint is "shut down?" Dammit, they are just crawling around everywhere. America is not gonna fall for this kabuki bullshit. Even the LIVs aren't stupid enough to buy into this nonsense.
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 02:59 PM (8lmkt)
when does a line reach when it becomes a conscious moral dilemna?
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 03:00 PM (nqBYe)
Uh b/c here at Ft Jackson they are rather loud partisan Bronko Obama backers?
I shop at DECA 2 times a week or rather did.
After running a side by side analysis of my bills the savings at Kroger or even Wal-Mart justify the hassle of going out Bronko Bama's Sequester temper tantrum single or one of three exits to do shopping off post.
The Feds are in a LOT of tasks they have NO business engaging in.
I keep hearing from FISCAL CON that the military needs good deep cuts....
well okay there are a LOT of civilian employees I'd start with first.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:01 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 05, 2013 03:01 PM (ndp2I)
Posted by: Delmar at October 05, 2013 03:02 PM (tkP0O)
Now that the gubmint is "shut down?" Dammit, they are just crawling around everywhere.
Posted by: Peaches
So the ones working are getting overtime, and the ones not working are now getting an extended paid vacation courtesy of The House.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 05, 2013 03:02 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: LIV at October 05, 2013 03:03 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: Beagle at October 05, 2013 03:03 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2013 06:59 PM (T7XIT)
Thanks, buddy. I got the credit card out and was all set to make a generous donation, but their "donate now" button is fubar. sadface
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 03:03 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: just sayin at October 05, 2013 03:03 PM (V+Pei)
Bronko is temporary(God willing) but the pervasive invasive nature of the civil service is in fact the problem.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:03 PM (9jfyN)
They sure love to use our military as Tools but slap them after they're finished with the task they used them for.
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 03:03 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Tutu at October 05, 2013 03:04 PM (CpWI4)
So why are you here on a website, and not storming the barricades?
Posted by: pep at October 05, 2013 07:00 PM (6TB1Z)
That's some pretty not-well-thought-out bullshit commenting right there.
Posted by: tangonine at October 05, 2013 03:05 PM (x3YFz)
But are we than saying there really isn't a line ?
The obligation is to the President and not the constitution or the citizens ?
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 03:05 PM (nqBYe)
That's my personal Rubicon I am not yet wading in.
Once that happens the American experiment is as over as a 3d Ogabe term would make it....
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:05 PM (9jfyN)
Yes, I saw that shit, too. Made me wanna do bad things. I would pretty much kill for a paid vacation like these clowns are getting. {spits . . . thinks about it some more, spits again}
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 03:06 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Phil at October 05, 2013 03:07 PM (QzdcC)
Posted by: Tutu at October 05, 2013 07:04 PM (CpWI4)
Except not really. And you don't want this nation's military turning inward. You don't.
It's not a good plan.
Posted by: tangonine at October 05, 2013 03:07 PM (x3YFz)
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 03:07 PM (nqBYe)
>>Uh b/c here at Ft Jackson they are rather loud partisan Bronko Obama backers?
I shop at DECA 2 times a week or rather did.
After running a side by side analysis of my bills the savings at Kroger or even Wal-Mart justify the hassle of going out Bronko Bama's Sequester temper tantrum single or one of three exits to do shopping off post.
The Feds are in a LOT of tasks they have NO business engaging in.
I keep hearing from FISCAL CON that the military needs good deep cuts....
well okay there are a LOT of civilian employees I'd start with first.
.
.My experiences in the Navy are mostly good. That GS4 job for the wife of my Non Rated or Third Class is what kept that family off of food stamps and let them have a little extra spending cash on the weekends. When me and the wife went to the Commissary and saw one of my or her people manning the cash register or doing the bagging we gave them something extra. Not much but an extra buck or two to help. They were trying to get ahead, and political squabbling on who voted for who has nothing to do with that.
I am not busting on you....just saying that those entry level position people are not the ones to blame for Obama and his pettiness even if they are O voters.
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 03:08 PM (AHX9J)
when does a line reach when it becomes a conscious moral dilemna?
Posted by: willow
I hope you're just going for a rhetorical flourish here. For all you Keyboard Kommandos out there, there is a big, big difference between torpedoing your career and probably your family's well-being for something where other people are inconvenienced vs really hurt. It's not right, it's a sleazy tantrum by the pouter in chief, but it ISN'T the fault of the average worker, and it sure as hell doesn't mean they'd start loading the trains for the camps. Quit trying to make all feds out to be loutish ingrates. They aren't. They're you, and this kind of ridiculous rhetoric is just plain wrong.
Posted by: pep at October 05, 2013 03:09 PM (6TB1Z)
General Zero having fun with his personal Seal Team Six again. Somalian warlord RIP.
I heard they took him alive. But...I suppose he could have suffered a 'work place incident' at 10k feet while enroute back to the boat.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 05, 2013 03:09 PM (0IhFx)
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 07:08 PM (AHX9J)
No disrespect, sir, and all compassion for their situation, but they are exactly the ones to blame.
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 03:10 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Vendette at October 05, 2013 03:10 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 03:10 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: T. at October 05, 2013 03:10 PM (duTpJ)
I would pretty much kill for a paid vacation like these clowns are getting.
Posted by: Peaches
I wonder if that Fed who was boo hooing at the end of the week in that post Gabe put up -- the only man in government between us and the abyss -- will return and at least say thanks for the paid vay-kay.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 05, 2013 03:10 PM (kdS6q)
so?
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 03:11 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Dan at October 05, 2013 03:12 PM (m3gf3)
Posted by: phreshone at October 05, 2013 03:12 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Delmar at October 05, 2013 03:12 PM (tkP0O)
No, they have every right to complain. What they don't have a right to do is slam others for inaction when they themselves aren't doing anything but bitching.
Posted by: pep at October 05, 2013 03:13 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 07:08 PM (AHX9J)
Disagree. Ignorance isn't an excuse. O voters bought the ticket on the Titanic. They ride it out. I didn't. You didn't.
They did.
Fuck 'em.
Posted by: tangonine at October 05, 2013 03:13 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 03:13 PM (8lmkt)
Just like the innocent IRS agents who were told to audit anybody with "Patriot" in their names? Hey, just people going to work every day.
Nope, there's nothing bizarre about putting barriers in front of the Lincoln memorial. Those people are just like me.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2013 03:13 PM (uhAkr)
we saw very enlightened countries succumb .
so i ask.
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 03:13 PM (nqBYe)
Right, it sounded completely neutral.
Posted by: pep at October 05, 2013 03:13 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 05, 2013 03:14 PM (ocNin)
Posted by: Tutu at October 05, 2013 03:14 PM (CpWI4)
Their union backs one candidate exclusively. They give for the most part subpar service compared to what people in a more competitive off-post environment requires to maintain employment. DECA engages in practices that if conducted off-post would be "illegal."
There is a LOT and I do mean a LOT of things Bronko's little temper tantrum has me to the point of jettisoning from the Mil budget.
Basically the more services and "perks" the Military gets the easier it is for us to be pawns in Shutdown Theater.
Giggles has played chicken with Mil pay how many times?
5 by my count arguably and unarguably 3.
Do I go to bed stabbing a Kachina doll of the overpaid DECA employees?
Nope mostly I don't give them a second thought, but the power has gone out at the Ft Jackson DECA 3 times, including a catastrophic loss of power that led to a big spoilage claim.
The reason their physical plant is deteriorating so badly is by golly "government."
Were it a private business the profit margin of the corp bears the loss and is thus motivated to have their operation in gear....here you and I bear the cost....
or more honestly in recent modern times China and the Money Fairy bears the loss.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:14 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: pep at October 05, 2013 07:13 PM (6TB1Z)
They can complain, but not insult the dignity of Federal employees who put barricades in front of the Lincoln memorial.
Got ya.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2013 03:14 PM (uhAkr)
In that case, it's not just sleazy, it's a crime. Hang 'em high.
Posted by: pep at October 05, 2013 03:15 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: phreshone at October 05, 2013 03:15 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 03:16 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 03:16 PM (nqBYe)
I'd prefer a as peaceful as can be divorce now through law.
They have no desire to maintain the Republic and the ONLY reason they demand we not leave is their entire reason for being is to dominate and destroy us.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:16 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: obama at October 05, 2013 03:16 PM (vx61Q)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 03:16 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2013 07:13 PM (uhAkr)
I have been to the Lincoln Memorial, and the Vietnam War Memorial, and all over the Mall there. Not a fuckin' federal worker in sight. NOW is when they are deployed? They should have done a "blue flu" and said no. This is despicable.
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 03:16 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: pep at October 05, 2013 07:15 PM (6TB1Z)
I don't see you storming Washington to hang them.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2013 03:16 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: phreshone at October 05, 2013 07:12 PM (Pr6hk)
Did the bill go through ?
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 05, 2013 03:16 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 05, 2013 03:16 PM (ocNin)
Got ya.
Now you're just being deliberately obtuse. Don't waste my time.
Posted by: pep at October 05, 2013 03:16 PM (6TB1Z)
I did not make the original statement by the way, BUT my experience has been as I have stated.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:17 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Gingy (Not as cool as she thought) at October 05, 2013 07:14 PM (jt8G9)
Dammit, Gingy, I didn't see you there! mwah and, yes, you are totes cool. my bad
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 03:17 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Beto at October 05, 2013 03:17 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: pep at October 05, 2013 07:15 PM (6TB1Z)
But you see those at the top don't want to hang em high .
so we the ?
did you see where the Judge decided to Shut down fast and furious response by govt because SShut Down?
this is Where we are at.
we are being fkd with by those we give honor and intrust our freedom , safety and liberty to?
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 03:18 PM (nqBYe)
>>No disrespect, sir, and all compassion for their situation, but they are exactly the ones to blame.
.
.Why?
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 03:18 PM (AHX9J)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 03:18 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: T. at October 05, 2013 03:19 PM (duTpJ)
did you see where the Judge decided to Shut down fast and furious response by govt because SShut Down?
this is Where we are at.we are being fkd with by those we give honor and intrust our freedom , safety and liberty to?
Respectfully, I don't understand what you wrote here.
Posted by: pep at October 05, 2013 03:19 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: backhoe at October 05, 2013 03:19 PM (ULH4o)
Posted by: pep at October 05, 2013 07:18 PM (6TB1Z)
I'm one of those guys who thinks you can criticize Federal employees when they screw up.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2013 03:19 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Kristophr at October 05, 2013 03:20 PM (c6N69)
Posted by: just sayin at October 05, 2013 03:20 PM (V+Pei)
I vote for the law and order candidate. You?
Posted by: pep at October 05, 2013 07:18 PM (6TB1Z)
Which candidate was that, exactly?
Posted by: tangonine at October 05, 2013 03:20 PM (x3YFz)
I beg to differ. The Feds are selfish ingrates, they are behaving like petty tyrants, and since I pay for their fucking jobs, I get to flame them with whatever blistering rhetoric I want. They deserve worse than what I will give them. Fuck them, and fuck their apologists.
Posted by: navybrat at October 05, 2013 03:20 PM (wIJJF)
Posted by: slippery when soothsayer
You've always been clear in your opinions.
Posted by: pep at October 05, 2013 03:20 PM (6TB1Z)
using political pressure to make sure we don't actually have justice in the country?
where is the line.
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 03:20 PM (nqBYe)
T "all father in DC" seems to think they are a luxury here in CONUS...
At Ft Bliss the ease of access to the DECA probably saved the family 100 bucks at a 1400 buck pay era in fuel.
That said All-Father in DC doesn't give a fuck and oddly eliminating DECA means less union payola for OFA....
4 more years and we'll duffel bag drag back to the block and ideally never look back.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:20 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 07:16 PM (nqBYe)
nah, I haven't seen fun or joy in so long, I'm not sure I would recognize it if it bit me right on the ass. however, that is what beer is for and I've had quite a bit of that.
{{{{lauren}}}} i see i have gotten myself into a bit of a pickle here, due to my beery lack of strict attention. don't taze me, bitchez!!! 
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 03:20 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 03:21 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 05, 2013 03:22 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 03:22 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 05, 2013 03:23 PM (ocNin)
Posted by: phreshone at October 05, 2013 03:23 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 07:18 PM (AHX9J)
because elections have consequences and do not ever, ever come whining to me, because i pay their salaries whether i like it or not and now, apparently, whether they actually "work" or not. capisce?
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 03:23 PM (8lmkt)
and to me that is the crux of the matter and why this shutdown theater enrages me in a way that Bill Clinton's did not...
Beijing Billy was an asshole but he was an American asshole...
this fucking guy is not an American asshole he is an Indonesian by way of Kenyan asshole.
He is spending more in OT man hours to put "the word out" than he spends during "normal business"
I think the NPS just made me an enemy for life.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:23 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: beach bum at October 05, 2013 03:24 PM (V+Pei)
>>We do not own the NPS employees anything.
They are the ones faced with a choice, not us.
They made their choice.
Fuck them.
.
.So when are you going to go and get in their faces and tell them that? Right up in their faces just like you do on your keyboard? I have a camera and I will record anything you want me to. I will be there on 13 October to march peacefully and I can get some video if you want me to.
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 03:24 PM (AHX9J)
see url
Posted by: phreshone at October 05, 2013 03:24 PM (Pr6hk)
using political pressure to make sure we don't actually have justice in the country?
where is the line.
The topic of this discussion is the average Federal employee. The people you're describing are political appointees or wannabees trying to please Barry. Who here is defending them?
Posted by: pep at October 05, 2013 03:24 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2013 03:24 PM (ELdpj)
What would that be?
Ogabe had Seal Team Six nail the asshole of the week again....
or is the asshole of the week now declared to be Ted Cruz?
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:24 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 07:18 PM (AHX9J)
pls excuse these heathens at the AoShq
they do not realize they are lesser humans than a CPO
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 05, 2013 03:25 PM (qzVZP)
Yup...basically Obama gets it even if the newsies want to pretend he doesn't....
He is losing.....
end of story Boehner kicked his ass.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:26 PM (9jfyN)
>>Why?
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 07:18 PM (AHX9J)
because elections have consequences and do not ever, ever come whining to me, because i pay their salaries whether i like it or not and now, apparently, whether they actually "work" or not. capisce?
When did I whine to you? I did 22 years and never ever whined (well not much), and I payed taxes those 22 years also and still do with my civilian job. Who is your hate directed at? That GS4 who goes to work to try and keep their family off of food stamps?
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 03:26 PM (AHX9J)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 03:27 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 05, 2013 03:27 PM (ocNin)
Posted by: T. at October 05, 2013 03:28 PM (duTpJ)
What would that be?
Ogabe had Seal Team Six nail the asshole of the week again....
or is the asshole of the week now declared to be Ted Cruz?
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 07:24 PM (9jfyN)
It wasn't "team 6" and announcing it was SEALS places their lives and the lives of the families in jeopardy. Irresponsible and vile. You don't advertise what our teams do in public. You shut the fuck up and not take victory laps at the cost of safety to our men and their families.
Obama is a fucking cunt whore sonofoabitch.
Posted by: tangonine at October 05, 2013 03:28 PM (x3YFz)
The topic was the claim that if we criticize Federal employees for putting up barricades at national monuments, we are also morally culpable because we aren't tearing them down.
This is a bit like saying that inaction during a bank robbery is the same as robbing a bank.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2013 03:28 PM (uhAkr)
Depends on whether he was a Chief or an E7. I've known both.
Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2013 03:29 PM (T7XIT)
It also FAILED -- the Seals most powerful weapon is stealth. This was a snatch op that went bad - probably because we were stupid enough to tell whatever passes for a govt in Somalia that the op was going to happen
If Obama wanted to just waste that dude, a couple TLAM's from a sub or destroyer would have done just fine.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 05, 2013 03:29 PM (9MLX+)
Right now, my respect for low life piece of shit apparatchiks who close monuments that do not belong to them and deny access WWII vets in wheelchairs is running pretty low. As low as it could get. I don't care they have badges and guns, I would not piss on them if they were on fire. They made their choices.
Posted by: navybrat at October 05, 2013 03:29 PM (wIJJF)
>>Irrelevant.
Hire me as an NPS employee and order me to close down a park.
Watch me say no.
That is the case in question.
These NPS employees had and still have the ability and opportunity to say no.
I am not obliged to say no with them.
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.So you just chickened out. Thought so.
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 03:29 PM (AHX9J)
Chief we are paid by tax money period. That we pay a percentage of the stream back in "taxes" does not mean we are ever anything but the public's servants.
The GS-04 stay off foodstamp heroine while inspiring is well "working" she can do the same off post.
Off post unless she is a member of the UFCW local whatever she is not paying into one party's coffer.
Change is coming big guy, rather than worry about DECA I'd be more worried about maintaining more than 150 decks...as in Ship decks.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:30 PM (9jfyN)
306 Well, we can always be assured that regardless of whether or not they are lesser humans, a chief will assume they are
you're either a member of the mess or you are a mess
this would be a cool motto
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 05, 2013 03:30 PM (qzVZP)
I was talking about the people you are defending whining, not you, RNC. I have no disrespect for you, I thank you for your service. My dad was Navy. But if these folks voted for Obama, then they made their bed and they should maybe feel the consequences of their collective decision and maybe make a better one next time. I just don't want to hear about their fuckin' problems. I don't care now and I will never care. They will eat and feed their families by the grace of my hard-earned tax dollars either way. And, yes, I am a little resentful. Okay, a lot.
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 03:30 PM (8lmkt)
>>Depends on whether he was a Chief or an E7. I've known both.
.
.After reading what has been posted on here, which one do you think I am?
Clue: I don't really care.
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 03:31 PM (AHX9J)
I used to be a "cop-sucker" back in the days when we had a real crime epidemic and liberals coddled criminals, but these days, they're just over-paid government bureaucrats that use every opportunity to bully people instead of going after real criminals.
That cop wouldn't have dared push around a real thug because he's fat ass would get flattened, but they love to show what a tough guy they are when it comes to people that follow the rules.
Posted by: Jeepers at October 05, 2013 03:31 PM (XDRsa)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 05, 2013 03:31 PM (gHRnl)
So FEMA requires construction near coasts or rivers be benchmarked according to data provided by NOAA National Geodetic Survey's OPUS system. Its been shut down.
A lot of people losing a lot of work right now. They mandate you must use their system and then they mandate you can't use it. And no back pay for us.
Posted by: bern at October 05, 2013 03:31 PM (q+BUG)
Posted by: Beto at October 05, 2013 03:32 PM (MhA4j)
I was making a point and trying to use disinfo on opsec...
but otherwise point taken...
I fully expect SCOAMF to get another Seal Team zapped by playing "the Bronk O'bama pop-up how and why we did it wonderbook" briefing....
That is all.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:32 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 03:32 PM (ZPrif)
***
Is this the Twilight Zone? Boner doesn't kick ass. He does something with asses, sure, but it damn sure isn't kicking.
Posted by: cool arrow at October 05, 2013 03:32 PM (WMsq+)
Posted by: beach bum at October 05, 2013 03:32 PM (V+Pei)
310 If Obama wanted to just waste that dude, a couple TLAM's from a sub or destroyer would have done just fine.
with the added benefit of an ice cream social and spades tourney
unless you've done a cruise or two, you don't know the glory of the ice cream social
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 05, 2013 03:33 PM (qzVZP)
exactly....
He's making a case alright and a SMART GOP or Tea Party better yet would be pointing out this asshole is nothing but a more genial Louis Farrakhan Chicago Shakedown Pol
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:33 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 03:33 PM (AO9UG)
>> was talking about the people you are defending whining, not you, RNC. I have no disrespect for you, I thank you for your service. My dad was Navy. But if these folks voted for Obama, then they made their bed and they should maybe feel the consequences of their collective decision and maybe make a better one next time. I just don't want to hear about their fuckin' problems. I don't care now and I will never care. They will eat and feed their families by the grace of my hard-earned tax dollars either way. And, yes, I am a little resentful. Okay, a lot.
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.Why are you resentful? Trust me most low level Federal employees did not vote for Obama.
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 03:33 PM (AHX9J)
That is all.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 07:32 PM (9jfyN)
copy. wasn't at you as much as it was a vent at the administration.
Posted by: tangonine at October 05, 2013 03:33 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 05:58 PM (AHX9J)
Once upon a time Chief one of youse guys told me never to give an order that I knew was going to be disobeyed. Makes you look weak.
Nothing like seeing that in action.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 05, 2013 03:34 PM (yh0zB)
that was awesome, Flatbush Joe, really awesome. thank you!
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 03:34 PM (8lmkt)
>>*sigh*
No, I did not.
The NPS employees took a job with the Federal Government.
The Feds have ordered them to do something.
They obeyed.
Their obedience is a badge they wear and it is not shared with others.
.OK sometimes I am stupid and need it spelled out. What exactly is it that they did wrong? Type slow because I can't read fast OK?
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 03:34 PM (AHX9J)
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 07:33 PM (AHX9J)
and you know this, how? because I think you are wrong there and until you can show me some source material, I'm calling bullshit.
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 03:35 PM (8lmkt)
I am in and out on Boehner but understand he is in many ways the most cunning guy on that hill.
He is hamstrung by the partisan press but he smoked out BAM's left Bauer early in this game...
Passing the Mil Pay and putting the Civilian authorization in there made this literal Kabuki not just seeming Kabuki....
That does not mean he will take the tricks to Euchre BAM but he played a good hand.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:35 PM (9jfyN)
Uh...I beg to differ but regardless their unions did....
sorry Chief so long as the civil service is essentially a money laundering operation for the donks vice union donations I have other places to put my sympathy.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:37 PM (9jfyN)
but i can now not verify, so ..
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Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 03:37 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Delmar at October 05, 2013 03:37 PM (tkP0O)
I never said whether I felt you were one or the other. Only time will tell. But keep the chip off your shoulder around here. Service is revered in this joint, but don't get the attitude that your shit don't stink because you served, or because you wore khakis.
Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2013 03:37 PM (T7XIT)
I hate the JEF
who is this persuading?
He is the face of the government
this in your face tactics will only redound to him
Posted by: thunderb at October 05, 2013 03:37 PM (zOTsN)
They obeyed.
Their obedience is a badge they wear and it is not shared with others.
.OK sometimes I am stupid and need it spelled out. What exactly is it that they did wrong? Type slow because I can't read fast OK?
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 07:34 PM (AHX9J)
Nuremberg Defense. Didn't work for them either.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 05, 2013 03:37 PM (yh0zB)
>>Once upon a time Chief one of youse guys told me never to give an order that I knew was going to be disobeyed. Makes you look weak.
Nothing like seeing that in action.
.
.Actually the original quote was from Douglas McArthur but it holds true.
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 03:37 PM (AHX9J)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 03:38 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 05, 2013 03:38 PM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 03:39 PM (ZPrif)
>>Uh...I beg to differ but regardless their unions did....
sorry Chief so long as the civil service is essentially a money laundering operation for the donks vice union donations I have other places to put my sympathy.
.
.Let's do some math. How many Federal employees do you think are in unions? I will be here for awhile.
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 03:40 PM (AHX9J)
You gonna tell me with a straight face the non-partisan civil service is well "non partisan"?
Sorry big guy bring back the spoils system.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:40 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 03:40 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 05, 2013 03:40 PM (yh0zB)
an order to do something illegal is not a lawful order
you have an obligation to disobey unlawful orders
Posted by: thunderb at October 05, 2013 03:40 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 05, 2013 03:41 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: beach bum at October 05, 2013 03:41 PM (V+Pei)
fgs can't we just talk and find solutions, i really do need hope for change here.
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 03:42 PM (nqBYe)
>>They obeyed an order to block off public parks.
They let themselves be used as propaganda tools.
Their jobs were and are worth more to them than the cost of saying no.
.
.Let's go march and tell them that. I tell you what, I will spring for a one way plane ticket to DC for you and meet you at the airport. We can go and tell that to their faces on 13 October. I will video it.
Just say no!
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 03:42 PM (AHX9J)
AT DECA?
You want to play this game?
In my wife's office up at Camp Atterbury?
If you weren't a contractor you were in the union.
Sorry the batting average is ruthlessly consistent with the 6 bases I am intimate with.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:42 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 03:42 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 07:16 PM (AO9UG)
Or they could make a show of "pretending" to obey the illegal orders to blockade parks and monuments. Put up a few barricades, but do it sloppily, and make only token Keystone Kops moves to enforce the blockade.
"Hey you, park's closed!" Moves (slowly) to intercept visitor, trips over own feet, falls to ground. "Curses, foiled again!"
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 05, 2013 03:42 PM (8Fl6F)
But to close an open air park or mall or monument, to actually expend manpower and financial resources to deny Americans something, out of pure spite, that is a line that THEY crossed. Public servants, my ass.
Posted by: navybrat at October 05, 2013 03:43 PM (wIJJF)
i really do need hope for change here.
Don't worry, willow. There will be a new post soon and we'll make sure you aren't left behind.
Posted by: garrett at October 05, 2013 03:43 PM (8eGWb)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 05, 2013 03:43 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Delmar at October 05, 2013 03:43 PM (tkP0O)
Posted by: Beagle at October 05, 2013 03:43 PM (sOtz/)
there is something known as discretion
it means looking the other way, not fully enforcing, using your best judgment
cops use it all the time
some people get warnings
some people get tickets
these cops could decide to look the other way
Posted by: thunderb at October 05, 2013 03:44 PM (zOTsN)
>>AT DECA?
You want to play this game?
In my wife's office up at Camp Atterbury?
If you weren't a contractor you were in the union.
Sorry the batting average is ruthlessly consistent with the 6 bases I am intimate with.
.
.My initial questions stands. What percentage of all Federal employees are in unions? I know the correct answer and where to find it because my employees tried to get a union in and failed.
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 03:45 PM (AHX9J)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 03:45 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 05, 2013 03:45 PM (qzVZP)
Add in the petty petulant nature of his grounding the Thunderbirds and Blue Angels, his antics vis a vis profit generating activities "for optics." while maintaining until 900 this morning his divine right to golf on our gold courses....
Nah...sorry one nice impact of the pending American calamity will be a bunch of servants of the Imperial House wondering why they don't make 65,000 a year for shuffling papers.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:46 PM (9jfyN)
Please don't insult dogs by comparing those who wear government colors to them.
Posted by: Methos actually sees value in dogs. at October 05, 2013 03:46 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: T. at October 05, 2013 03:46 PM (duTpJ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2013 03:46 PM (a4Omg)
Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2013 03:46 PM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 05, 2013 03:46 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 05, 2013 03:46 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Delmar at October 05, 2013 03:47 PM (tkP0O)
Posted by: gracepmc at October 05, 2013 03:47 PM (rznx3)
Posted by: garrett at October 05, 2013 03:47 PM (8eGWb)
Given that your and my interaction was vis a vis DECA I'll go with 100% non-probationary for a 1000 Alex...
you were saying?
That factoid is why I declined being hired in at Ft Bliss BTW.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:47 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Lady in Black, in a dead thread talking to myself at October 05, 2013 03:47 PM (XB5Ak)
Posted by: T. at October 05, 2013 03:47 PM (duTpJ)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 03:48 PM (ZPrif)
369 its more than discretion in this case, its all in how the NPS handle it
here the Arizona is closed but you can get on the grounds
the NPS are extremely polite and explain the situation and then move on to the next tourist
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 05, 2013 03:48 PM (qzVZP)
correct the civil servants do not give a shit that their "brothers and sisters" over at EPA are waging a defacto holy war against affordable energy...
that holy war hurts the economy.
ergo cry me a river.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:48 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 03:48 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: navybrat at October 05, 2013 07:43 PM (wIJJF)
THAT!! eleventy
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 03:49 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: beach bum at October 05, 2013 03:49 PM (V+Pei)
Fedgov may be goin' to hell but don't forget Marie Callendar's has pies for SOOPER-CHEEP this month
Guess what WON'T be staying closed??? My pie-hole
Posted by: DAve at October 05, 2013 03:49 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 03:50 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 03:50 PM (ZPrif)
Yup one Lad10077 and I were looking very forward to...
NOW for frame of reference understand how dilapidated the American revolutionary fields are compared to the Civil War ones and know that that subpar treatment is the very same NPS at work....
Cowpens is barely patrolled and is in fact one of the better Revolutionary War sites....
there is no depth SCOAMF won't go to because he is a cetulant punt.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:50 PM (9jfyN)
390 although is that even in the motto anylonger
i'm not sure
but although I must admit there are some bad apples out there, the vast bulk of the LEO population would handle the situation with much more tact
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 05, 2013 03:51 PM (qzVZP)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 03:52 PM (ZPrif)
>>And if I refuse, my critique of the NPS and what they are doing is bankrupt?
Ninja, please.
Pay attention to the subject at hand: it is opinion of what the NPS employees have decided to do.
.
.And you have declined twice to be paid to go and tell them that straight to their faces. So your opinion matters how?
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 03:52 PM (AHX9J)
BREAKING NEWS: Libyan Al Qaeda leader captured by US forces http://fxn.ws/2E9Swb
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 03:52 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Delmar at October 05, 2013 03:52 PM (tkP0O)
Willow, I think the way to get through this is to ensure your congressman and senator k ow how utterly disgusted and mad you are, and that you will work to see their careers end in short order if they don't stand up to presnit pissant. And it would be helpful if you called your local news folks and told them you were just going to stop buying their news info and their sponsors products.
Make them the face of the administration. Hold them accountable for their support of that shit stain and his administration
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 05, 2013 03:52 PM (GwLJQ)
A great site to visit. I went there this July with my Dad and a brother. A nice visitors center with a very helpful staff.
Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2013 03:53 PM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 03:53 PM (ZPrif)
maybe the cops in DC are on edge because of all the weirdness the last two days, and that is why they are not doing this in a less dickish way
but I don't think so. Some people love the feeling of power they have. Its the best they feel all day
Posted by: thunderb at October 05, 2013 03:54 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 05, 2013 03:54 PM (ocNin)
Delmar you spoke of your partisan feelings. I respect you and I know that you would never engage in partisan games in your official capacity. My father in law died a NARFE President in good standing.....
I respect good civil service like few other things and I mean that in all sincerity.
Of course he and likely you are servants of an Old Order of service that is gone in all likelihood.
That honor is why we lose in part by the way.
You won't leak useful partisan data but Lois Lerner will.
I'd prefer good honest graft to dishonest unilateral corruption.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:54 PM (9jfyN)
400 you know, as a fellow chief, you're starting to play the keyboard badass game
stop that, its beneath you
these folks here although they are mostly RINO trash, will respond intelligently to a valid argument
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 05, 2013 03:54 PM (qzVZP)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 03:54 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 05, 2013 03:55 PM (ocNin)
Posted by: Beto at October 05, 2013 03:55 PM (MhA4j)
I am however this week going to go after advertisers for media and have a few other people i know call and boycott their products.
those things I Can do.
Posted by: willow at October 05, 2013 03:55 PM (nqBYe)
Very much so.
I'll happily compare notes with anyone on American Battlefield Perusal.
I have a deep love for the NPS that is slowly turning to hatred.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:55 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 05, 2013 03:56 PM (4xOsM)
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 03:56 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 05, 2013 07:54 PM (qzVZP)
Uh, WTF?
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 03:57 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen of Tea Party, Eleventy District at October 05, 2013 03:57 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: DAve at October 05, 2013 03:57 PM (b7yum)
Well the Ewok is touchy about the dreaded C word...and I am already in the doghouse or rather was.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:57 PM (9jfyN)
Maybe, but it does help the transition away from the fairy tale notion that we have common interests with the people of government.
Posted by: Methos at October 05, 2013 03:57 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 05, 2013 03:57 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Big Ben at October 05, 2013 03:58 PM (I5Htn)
>>It matters just as much as anyone else's, including yours.
Your use of an invalid test to decide which opinions have merit and which do not is transparently transparent.
.
.Thanks you for your service and your opinion. When you wish to utilize someone else paying for a real actual opportunity to express your opinion let me know....Have a good night.
Later everyone.
Posted by: Retired Navy Chief at October 05, 2013 03:58 PM (AHX9J)
Bus tour knocks down Iwo Jima blockade in #WashingtonDC to bring veterans through @CNYcentral #shutdown
pic.twitter.com/6Vr4XjQ8IB
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 03:58 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: NWConservative at October 05, 2013 03:58 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 05, 2013 07:56 PM (4xOsM)
please tell me you're shittin' us . . .
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 03:58 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: T. at October 05, 2013 03:58 PM (duTpJ)
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 05, 2013 03:58 PM (qzVZP)
Government is the word for things *we* do together! you know like intimidate 90 year olds when they go to pray to friends about what the Camp Chow is like at the next AO.....
fuck Obama
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 03:59 PM (9jfyN)
There are criminal investigations into seriously bad guys which are in real trouble due to fed investigators and prosecutors being shut down. These investigations are not influenced by the political flavor of the week and are in danger of being derailed, declined due to this mess.
The investigators could potentially lose years of work.
Criminal investigators are prohibited from joining unions.
@ Jeepers,
Fuck Paultards.
Posted by: noone, really at October 05, 2013 03:59 PM (5ikDv)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen of Tea Party, Eleventy District at October 05, 2013 07:57 PM (baL2B)
Okay, sweetie. You know all those flags we put on the moon back in the 60s? They have been bleached white by solar radiation. Now it looks like the fuckin' French were there.
Posted by: Peaches at October 05, 2013 04:00 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 05, 2013 04:00 PM (qzVZP)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 04:01 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: gracepmc at October 05, 2013 04:01 PM (rznx3)
Someone say something funny, stat. I am a mess.
Da BEARS will win the superbowl because Cutler is an elite QB!!!!
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 05, 2013 04:01 PM (qzVZP)
Posted by: Delmar at October 05, 2013 04:01 PM (tkP0O)
But, there is SOME shit that I will not eat. So I resigned.
Posted by: navybrat at October 05, 2013 04:01 PM (wIJJF)
Posted by: T. at October 05, 2013 04:01 PM (duTpJ)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 05, 2013 04:02 PM (4xOsM)
Posted by: NWConservative at October 05, 2013 04:02 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 05, 2013 07:58 PM (qzVZP)
I am, so don't characterize me like that
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 05, 2013 04:03 PM (8sCoq)
"I am here for your women and croissants fuckers..."
Je suis ici pour vos femmes et des croissants baiseurs!
//Apollo 19
Followed for Faster Service by
Ich bin hier für eure Frauen und Croissants fuckers!
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 04:03 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Low Information Voter at October 05, 2013 04:03 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2013 04:03 PM (HjPtV)
I sign off my e-mails with "it is neither victory or defeat but in the end the struggle itself that gives us honor."
Believe me when I say I bear no opprobrium to good people stuck in a bad system, BUT the system itself is strangling America.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 04:05 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: T. at October 05, 2013 04:05 PM (duTpJ)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 05, 2013 04:05 PM (4xOsM)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 04:05 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 05, 2013 04:05 PM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at October 05, 2013 04:06 PM (/sohm)
Posted by: eman at October 05, 2013 04:08 PM (AO9UG)
A lot of guys like it in the nice warm bathtub of the Federal Services...
I just hope he enjoys this brave new world of Things we do together like destroy captive private business like Mt Vernon.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 04:10 PM (9jfyN)
Feds.
Should known they were being used to wag the dog and quit.
Posted by: noone, really at October 05, 2013 04:13 PM (5ikDv)
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 05, 2013 04:13 PM (VjL9S)
Ohj they know they're being used...
I don't recall anyone saying the Military is superfluous of course the military having its own grocery...
"maybe"
"nuance"
Too bad they killed the guy instead of bringing him to Congress to answer a few questions eh?
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 04:16 PM (9jfyN)
I would love to see the trail of proof leading to his participation in the mall shooting.
Hellaciously fast police work that.
Especially when compared to Benghazi.
Posted by: noone, really at October 05, 2013 04:19 PM (5ikDv)
Wouldn't an honest court have to say there is no compelling interest to staffing the same and keeping us out. Has the fed committed a crime against the CONUS/citizens? Yes, but I don't have the verbiage.
When is *our* lawfare going to kick in?
---
So getting close to my own red line, this gov't is....
Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 05, 2013 04:20 PM (X/+QT)
Well NSA has "work...and work
Bark needed a "win" sorta like when they got OBL it was "fortuitous"
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 04:21 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: EROWMER at October 05, 2013 04:22 PM (OONaw)
Can't have the Pubbies smearing the glass of Choomies narrative.
Hey look at those guys that did something I could never imagine doing. All for me !
Monarchy sucks.
Posted by: noone, really at October 05, 2013 04:28 PM (5ikDv)
Yeah but not too hard until the crown starts killing to keep the parties going.
Posted by: Sven10077 at October 05, 2013 04:30 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Bufalobob at October 05, 2013 04:42 PM (r8ENS)
Posted by: Beagle at October 05, 2013 04:51 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: The Poster Formely Known as Mr. Barky at October 05, 2013 05:09 PM (+alYF)
Posted by: Trivial Pursuer
****
Yeah. Perhaps driving the drug cartels out of the continental US might be a better allocation of resources for the Border Patrol and armed NPS rangers rather than using the NPS and Coast Guard to hassle law-abiding US citizens. And since when have Mexican drug cartels called the shots (so to speak) when occupying US territory? If it takes a military operation to drive those bastards across the border, then let's do it.
Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2013 05:14 PM (HjPtV)
Joyce Spencer is 77-years-old and her husband Ralph is 80. They've been spending most of their time in the family ice cream store since going home isn't an option.
The Spencers never expected to be forced out of their Lake Mead home, which they've owned since the 70s, but on Thursday, a park ranger said they had 24 hours to get out.
"I had to go to town today and buy Ralph undershirts and jeans because I forgot his pants," Joyce Spencer told Action News.
The Stewart's Point home sits on federal land, so even though the Spencers own their cabin outright, they're not allowed in until the government reopens.
Posted by: Felicia the Goat at October 05, 2013 05:35 PM (e8kgV)
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