March 13, 2014
— Gabriel Malor I've mentioned the RNC's new digital and data effort a couple of times. The idea is to modernize the GOP's voter targeting effort, make it a permanent program, and keep it in-house rather than revive it for election years with a different contractor every time. Then campaigns, committees, and vendors could use and update that data in near real-time across multiple simultaneous races. We're still waiting to see if that second part works out, but Rep-elect Jolly' surprise win in Florida was a good test run for the program.
RNC says its digital team is making headway, as proven by what the committee accomplished on the ground -- and online -- in Florida's St. Petersburg-area 13th district, where on Tuesday Republican David Jolly narrowly defeated Democrat Alex Sink. RNC officials said the party was still analyzing the results, but they pointed to a handful of new data gathering and analysis capabilities the party now possesses that they believe made a difference:
I can't in good conscience steal Drucker' list of the new tools, so you'll have to click over. I've been hearing about this for a little over a year, so it's good to see it working.
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Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 13, 2014 07:00 AM (JQuNB)
Posted by: toby928© at March 13, 2014 07:01 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Karl Rove at March 13, 2014 07:02 AM (Aif/5)
It's long past time to get rid of the Republicans' Old Tools (you know who they are). All the digital goodies and scientifically tested techniques woin't do a damn bit of good until the party has a message to offer that is a) worth a shit and b) consistent. They could try sticking to principles, too, but maybe that's asking too much.
I guess if you're On the Inside this is fascinating stuff, but from out here in the cold it doesn't mean much.
Posted by: MrScribbler at March 13, 2014 07:02 AM (jiM5S)
The idea is to modernize the GOP's voter targeting effort, make it a permanent program, and keep it in-house rather than revive it for election years with a different contractor every time.
Likely. Hey, hold my beer and watch this!
Posted by: The Stupid Party at March 13, 2014 07:02 AM (A0sHn)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 13, 2014 07:02 AM (o3MSL)
But the GOP-e doesn't want to put the piano player out of business and be seen as heartless!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 13, 2014 07:04 AM (o3MSL)
On the one hand, that's smart--if they intend to use it. You know, for stuff like: Voter registration, petition drives, human interest stories, etc.
On the other hand, this is the GOP, they'll most likely just spam their mailbox with solicitations for donations.
'Cause Karl Rove says that's smart politicking.
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 13, 2014 07:04 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: John McCain at March 13, 2014 07:04 AM (JQuNB)
Posted by: John McCain at March 13, 2014 11:04 AM (JQuNB)
And you get to play with wet clay!
Posted by: High Sheriff Joe Biden at March 13, 2014 07:05 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 07:05 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: ORCA at March 13, 2014 07:05 AM (W7ffl)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 13, 2014 07:06 AM (gBnkX)
Who knew!
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 13, 2014 07:07 AM (VtjlW)
Next thing, ace will be posting sans hobo pelts and Valu-Rite hangovers.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at March 13, 2014 07:08 AM (DQZLr)
Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 13, 2014 07:08 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 13, 2014 07:08 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 13, 2014 07:08 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 13, 2014 07:09 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Beagle at March 13, 2014 07:10 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Mainah at March 13, 2014 07:10 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2014 11:08 AM (T2V/1)
Are they (gasp) re-writing history already? I thought that the RNC was not exactly supportive of Jolly and gave him lots of really bad (Rovian) political advice, which he ignored.
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 13, 2014 07:11 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: backhoe at March 13, 2014 07:12 AM (ULH4o)
McConnell has pledges to crush us, so why bother tracking us for GOTV or donations?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 13, 2014 07:12 AM (aq/zi)
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 13, 2014 11:09 AM (VjL9S)
I have to admit, I have never associated the word "bossy" with Hillary.
Shrewish, bitter, screeching, cankled banshee, sure. But bossy? No.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 07:13 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Veeshir at March 13, 2014 07:14 AM (In/o+)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2014 07:14 AM (oMKp3)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 13, 2014 11:11 AM (o3MSL)
Levin was all over that shit last night, stating that Top Men sent their apparatchiks to Politico on Friday to leak away providing some ass covering in case of a loss. I subsequently was directed to a link that showed Jolly's money was just slightly less than Sinkhole's with a major input from the Chamber of Crony Capitalism, which is kind of strange considering he campaigned against amnesty.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 13, 2014 07:14 AM (YbFCe)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 07:16 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Whitey99 at March 13, 2014 07:16 AM (TRkgs)
Posted by: John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Miss Lindsay, and John McCain at March 13, 2014 07:16 AM (APuJ7)
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That's my impression, as well.
Seems the general sentiment here was that the GOPe wanted him to lose, expected him to lose.
Remember, CAC thought he would lose--not his fault, but that impression was created because all the "important" people were saying he would lose.
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 13, 2014 07:17 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: ThreePercent at March 13, 2014 07:17 AM (lSett)
The money needed to fund these "new tools"?
Won't be coming from me.
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Relax. They were free downloads from DNC.gov
Posted by: Bigby's Frostbitten Hands at March 13, 2014 07:17 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 07:17 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 07:18 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Kate and Edith Tuell at March 13, 2014 07:18 AM (ODr92)
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 13, 2014 11:17 AM (VjL9S)
Sometimes, those damn voters just ignore sage political advice and vote the wrong way, potentially slowing down the gravy train I have helped fabricate over the years.
Posted by: Karl Rover at March 13, 2014 07:20 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 13, 2014 07:20 AM (APuJ7)
Posted by: toby928© outrage hoader at March 13, 2014 07:20 AM (QupBk)
Whoa, just checked my balance and I'm running low on hyphens.
Posted by: mrp at March 13, 2014 07:21 AM (JBggj)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 13, 2014 07:21 AM (9Bdcz)
Posted by: ThreePercent at March 13, 2014 11:17 AM (lSett)
What lead you to the conclusion that we have any intention of doing that?
Posted by: Juan Boner and Bitch McConnell at March 13, 2014 07:21 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: MTF at March 13, 2014 11:21 AM (oKs5r)
Which is, of course, a type of weasel.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 13, 2014 07:22 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 13, 2014 07:22 AM (APuJ7)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 13, 2014 11:02 AM (o3MSL)
Nah what they will do is if its successful they will only give access to the information for their preferred candidate. Primaries? Tea Party candidates or other nonpreferred candidates, sorry you're out of luck. Good establishment Tools, here you guys go. Tea Party candidate wins the nomination? Sorry we just don't have the resources to allow everyone to use this stuff.
Posted by: buzzion at March 13, 2014 07:22 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: toby928© outrage hoader at March 13, 2014 11:20 AM (QupBk)
And have I got a deal for you!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 13, 2014 07:23 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 07:23 AM (659DL)
In fairness, I know we're all supposed to be instant FL-13 experts now, but the way I first saw this framed was a flat-out referendum on Obamacare, with a flawed insurgent against a high name-recognition "keep it but fix it" type.
Which means Obamacare lost, which is technically a good thing.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 13, 2014 07:23 AM (A0sHn)
Posted by: toby928© outrage hoader at March 13, 2014 07:24 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 07:24 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 07:24 AM (659DL)
Posted by: buzzion at March 13, 2014 11:22 AM (LI48c)
Isn't that known as the "Ken Cuccinelli game"?
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 13, 2014 07:25 AM (o3MSL)
I believe Reagan called that the 11th commandment. But he was kinda so-con, so you know, purge him out (and embrace populist fascism).
Posted by: HR at March 13, 2014 07:25 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 13, 2014 07:25 AM (VtjlW)
According to the terms of TARP, the result of the reorganization is not subject to review by the courts. The liabilities of 2001-2007 GM have be quantified by the TARP settlement (however lousy it is).
DOJ has no say at this point regarding a new civil settlement. That can only be done by Barack Obama.
But does that also apply to criminal activity that might generate a "fine" or legal fees ?
Given the President's position, does DOJ have a conflict-of-interest ?
Did the government know they might sue GM when they sold securities of the new GM to on the stock market ? This might be fraud .. like what DOJ is prosecuting now with Wall Street firms who sold tainted securities to clients, but this would be fraud by the government.
Posted by: Obama For Suckers at March 13, 2014 07:25 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Kate and Edith Tuell at March 13, 2014 07:26 AM (ODr92)
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 13, 2014 11:09 AM (VjL9S)
I have to admit, I have never associated the word "bossy" with Hillary.
Shrewish, bitter, screeching, cankled banshee, sure. But bossy? No.
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Bossy is often a polite way of saying "quit being a bitch." Or a more gentle way of saying, "You rub people the wrong way. Keep it up and they'll hate you. Be nice. You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar."
That's why they want it banned--they want even polite and deserved criticism of Hillary out-of-bounds.
They want "bossy" to be their "N-word" so they can accuse anyone making any criticism of Hillary of being a bigot, a woman-hater, etc., etc.
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 13, 2014 07:26 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Chris Christie at March 13, 2014 07:26 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 13, 2014 07:26 AM (ihCPW)
I didn't sleep in a Holiday Inn last night so I need some 'splaining of this:
" . . . they pointed to a handful of new data gathering and analysis capabilities the party now possesses that they believe made a difference:"
How do the new capabilities transmorgify into voters coming out to vote and pulling the lever for your candidate?
Personally, I hang up on all the pre-election robo-calls AND toss 95% of the political ad mailers right into the paper recycle bin.
Someone put me some knowlege.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 13, 2014 07:27 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: HR at March 13, 2014 11:25 AM (ZKzrr)
The 11th commandment only applies to establishment go along to get along reach across the aisle hacks. Ever notice which sorts of commenters here are the quickest to start screaming "11th commandment!"
Posted by: buzzion at March 13, 2014 07:27 AM (LI48c)
Now you're catching on.
Posted by: Obama's Favorite Republican Senator, Dick Lugar at March 13, 2014 07:28 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 07:28 AM (aDwsi)
This is a repost from yesterday:
Just got called by RNC wanting a donation on a RECORDED line, I said,
"Listen to me clearly, I am not donating to the National party because you keep listening to people like Karl Rove."
Then I hung up.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, We Be Bossy at March 13, 2014 07:28 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 13, 2014 07:28 AM (VtjlW)
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A friend of a friend told me to hold out for the Olympian Disdain. It's the real deal, so I've heard.
Posted by: mrp at March 13, 2014 07:29 AM (JBggj)
Tactically good. Strategically - we're still screwed.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 07:29 AM (BZAd3)
If the Obama administration does it, it must be legal!
And if you thought Congress didn't have to follow the Law, you ain't seen nothing yet!
Posted by: Eric "Red" Holder at March 13, 2014 07:30 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 13, 2014 11:25 AM (VtjlW)
I believe there's a pair of them out back, one in Inferno Red, the other in Strangulated Purple.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 13, 2014 07:30 AM (hLRSq)
Not the plane, wingnuts, the RNC's miracle database.
Posted by: Fritz at March 13, 2014 07:30 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 07:31 AM (659DL)
In 2012 I was against Saint Willard of the Latter Days in the primaries because I was afraid he'd run the type of limp dick campaign in the general election which he ultimately did. But once he got the nomination I shut my fucking pie hole and even praised him for giving one of the best defenses of the free market system during the first debate that I've heard since Reagan. Contrast that to fuckface Rove going ballistic when COD defeated his mancrush Mike Castle and the usual suspects continuing the badmouthing until the actual election.
I'm getting real tired of playing by two sets of rules.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 13, 2014 07:32 AM (YbFCe)
Posted by: ( I learned the truth from ) Lenny Bruce at March 13, 2014 07:32 AM (omBWL)
Posted by: Kate and Edith Tuell at March 13, 2014 07:32 AM (ODr92)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 13, 2014 07:32 AM (Os+6p)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 11:28 AM (aDwsi)
Priority Overnight or Regular Business?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 13, 2014 07:32 AM (hLRSq)
Alright! Time to drive around in Snowapocalypse! I'm only going to *some* twisty never-plowed ghetto areas today and only 2 way out in the boonies ones, so woot!
later, all.
[thanks for the hand heater]
Posted by: Bigby's Frostbitten Hands at March 13, 2014 07:32 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 13, 2014 07:32 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Beagle at March 13, 2014 07:32 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 11:29 AM (BZAd3)
What I find strange is that they are telling us upfront that they intend to fast-track AMNESTY no matter what!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 13, 2014 07:33 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: mrp at March 13, 2014 11:29 AM (JBggj)
Sold out - I'll put in an order special.
How many metric ckuf tons do you want?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 13, 2014 07:34 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: troyriser at March 13, 2014 07:34 AM (V9ol4)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 07:34 AM (dfYL9)
This is their plan?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2014 07:35 AM (QFxY5)
Brilliance is fleeting, but industrial strength stupid has a long half life!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 13, 2014 07:36 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 13, 2014 11:32 AM (VtjlW)
I'm not.
Posted by: John McCain at March 13, 2014 07:36 AM (QFxY5)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 13, 2014 11:32 AM (VtjlW)
I'll have them prepped. Moral Certainty is in aisle three, next to Smug Self-Rightousness.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 13, 2014 07:36 AM (hLRSq)
This is their plan?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2014 11:35 AM (QFxY5)
If you just fell in line, you would feel better.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 07:36 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 13, 2014 07:36 AM (9Bdcz)
Apparently it's not necessary to have a perpetual outrage blog post to get perpetual outrage comments. Good job!!
I find that comment outrageous!
In perpetuity!
Posted by: Perpetually Outraged Commenter at March 13, 2014 07:37 AM (87y4e)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 07:37 AM (659DL)
Here's some dirt re David Jolly:
"They faced [Jolly] a lobbyist opponent with personal issues — a divorce, a girlfriend people referred to as his “child bride,” and an auto accident from decades ago in which he’d killed someone."
So Jolly has all this baggage and yet a civil lawsuit verdict is the death knell for Dr. Greg Brannon. Yeah, not buying it. Next reason why we should support the GOPe candidate in North Carolina?? And keep in mind that Jolly was facing the best funded best known candidate out there and had to deal with a 3rd party idiot as well in a district Obama won twice.
Go Brannon!! Of course, his views on buttfucking might be too "old-fashioned" and thus the GOPe could Ken C him and deny him access to $$ and allow him to go down. So there's a wildcard.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 13, 2014 07:37 AM (tVTLU)
later, all.
[thanks for the hand heater]
Posted by: Bigby's Frostbitten Hands at March 13, 2014 11:32 AM (3ZtZW)
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If we don't hear back from you soon, we'll send in a Malaysian search team.
Posted by: RNC at March 13, 2014 07:38 AM (Wz9US)
As Circa (and others) pointed out above, all the process in the world is essentially meaningless when there is no substance. Data-mining to win squeaker elections will be a purely academic victory if the people elected don't run on anything other than "I'm not the other guy". Without the implied power and also discipline of a "mandate" (yes, an over-rated concept, but there is validity to it when the country's mis-governance has become so fundamental and intrusive), any GOP elected are of dubious value.
Posted by: non-purist at March 13, 2014 07:38 AM (afQnV)
KERRY SAYS RUSSIA DOESN'T YET HAVE FORCES FOR UKRAINE TAKEOVER. Oh ok. Phew
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 07:38 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 13, 2014 07:39 AM (APuJ7)
Posted by: booger at March 13, 2014 07:40 AM (xRDdL)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 11:38 AM (BZAd3)
Well, DoS has been right about everything else!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 13, 2014 07:40 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Cosmo Kramer at March 13, 2014 07:40 AM (APuJ7)
It's not about what you associate. It's about guilting people into voting a certain way, which worked pretty well the last two times.
Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Decade at March 13, 2014 07:40 AM (hHFOx)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 11:36 AM (BZAd3)
This is what I wrote back:
You send a note from a backstabbing warmonger?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2014 07:40 AM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 07:41 AM (t3UFN)
$5.00/lb. Next day delivery.*
*Special handling is required - can't let it get loose or there goes half the township.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 13, 2014 07:41 AM (hLRSq)
Is your Smug Self-Righteousness certified cruelty-free?
Posted by: HR at March 13, 2014 07:41 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Beagle at March 13, 2014 07:42 AM (sOtz/)
KERRY SAYS RUSSIA DOESN'T YET HAVE FORCES FOR UKRAINE TAKEOVER.
I think there's a rule that can be applied here.
Posted by: Opposite George Costanza at March 13, 2014 07:42 AM (87y4e)
From the linked article: "The committee now ranks prospective voters on a complex scale of one to 100, with each data point representing a piece of information about a voter that helps determine how best to talk to him or her and motivate him or her to vote."
Wait. 100 pieces of data on me as a voter? FTN.
Yet the local geniuses still cant figure out where my voting precinct boundries are to only mail / call me about Primary Election candidates I can actually vote on in my precinct for the down ballot races. There's more than one such boundary in my zipcode, guys.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 13, 2014 07:42 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: toby928© at March 13, 2014 07:42 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Roy at March 13, 2014 07:42 AM (VndSC)
How many Ohio precincts did he win by 100%.
That shit is a statistical impossibility on a real-world practical level.
Posted by: Something at March 13, 2014 07:43 AM (ZW1Ga)
Posted by: John McCain, Karl Rove, John Boehner, et al at March 13, 2014 07:43 AM (hHFOx)
Posted by: Wulford Simplus at March 13, 2014 07:43 AM (UK3jc)
Got the first ever RNC mailing I can remember last week. Depressing and darkly hilarious to read the cartoon-like language and concepts used to try and motivate a contribution - yes, this is a reflection of how ignorant and unsophisticated most Americans are about their government and country, but still.
So I'm wondering if there's a pattern. This past Christmas I got the official C-card of a former friend who I helped in his first state-level election. He's now in the top tier of the House Dem leadership. Haven't heard from him/his organization in years.
Posted by: non-purist at March 13, 2014 07:43 AM (afQnV)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2014 07:44 AM (xorT2)
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Dunno. The way this winter's going, I could park a case of OD on the back deck and I'd be good through June.
Posted by: mrp at March 13, 2014 07:44 AM (JBggj)
Posted by: Something at March 13, 2014 11:43 AM (ZW1Ga)
Not so fast there with conclusions.
Posted by: Kim Jong Un at March 13, 2014 07:44 AM (o3MSL)
I think there's a rule that can be applied here.
Posted by: Opposite George Costanza at March 13, 2014 11:42 AM (87y4e)
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It's got to be true. SecDef Hagen told him so.
Posted by: Soona at March 13, 2014 07:45 AM (Wz9US)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 07:45 AM (aDwsi)
The fact that Romney won independent voters nationally by double digits yet still lost the election just doesn't happen. Bush actually lost the independent vote in 2004.
I can't blame it all though on IT, a conservative shouldn't need prodding to go to the polls and get rid of Obama.
Posted by: McAdams at March 13, 2014 07:46 AM (K1mZp)
Posted by: HR at March 13, 2014 11:41 AM (ZKzrr)
Absolutely not! We make sure that only the finest in hypocritical cruelty and double standards go into our Smug Self-Rightousness.
It's a tradition.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 13, 2014 07:46 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: toby928© plays the bouzouki at March 13, 2014 07:47 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 11:36 AM (BZAd3)
Actually, you're right. I'm filled with anxiety sometimes because I know in my bones that many/most of these politicians we've elected to oppose the socialist weasels attempting to destroy our Republic are, for the most part, just not committed, unserious, lacking courage and conviction. They don't realize the stakes. They won't fight.
I think it would be so much easier if I just let go and not give a damn anymore, and who cares but me if I give a damn or not anyway? But then I think, me, I care. I love my country and it would be a betrayal of principles not to care.
So I keep giving Republicans money (and time et al), doubting much of anything will be accomplished. And I'll keep doing it until the GOP goes full Whig and shows itself as utterly useless. In the meantime, I try not to lose heart.
Posted by: troyriser at March 13, 2014 07:47 AM (V9ol4)
Posted by: PaleRider at March 13, 2014 07:47 AM (m+nIW)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 13, 2014 07:47 AM (APuJ7)
18Somehow, the words "RNC" and "tools" are a perfect fit.
Funny, I thought it was redundantly redundant.
Posted by: drill_thrawl at March 13, 2014 07:47 AM (H84UO)
I know! Let's shitcan the A-10, and put all our eggs in the F-35 basket!
And the F-22s we have should do the job. No need to spin that up again.
Posted by: Band of Democrat Incompetants at March 13, 2014 07:47 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: WVinMN at March 13, 2014 07:47 AM (Dge+E)
I heard all the magical computer-enabled data-driven GOTV shit back in Romney's campaign. It didn't amount to crap then, and I'm having a hard time believing it had much if anything to do with Jolly's win now.
Based on my perspective, it's the GOPe trying to claim credit for something that I doubt they had much to do with at all.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 13, 2014 07:48 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: ontherocks at March 13, 2014 07:48 AM (xoXX5)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2014 07:48 AM (xorT2)
KERRY SAYS RUSSIA DOESN'T YET HAVE FORCES FOR UKRAINE TAKEOVER
As in right now this second.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/p3k934s
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 13, 2014 07:48 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 13, 2014 07:48 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Zombie Quint at March 13, 2014 07:49 AM (APuJ7)
Excellent. I'll need the 55-gal drum delivered to my office.
Posted by: HR at March 13, 2014 07:50 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: toby928© plays the bouzouki at March 13, 2014 07:50 AM (QupBk)
Here's a list of losers who now pollute our thinkers, aka faux conservatives. If we listen to them, not only do we lose every fucking time, but conservatism would have been dead long ago as we would have no borders whatsoever. Third world mofos:
1) WSJ
2) George Will
3) Jen Rubin
4) Dr. Krauthammer
5) Peter Wehner
6) Paul Mirgenhoff (Powerline)
7) Commentary
Any politician that submits an article to the New York fucking Times
9) Noemie Emery (Washington Examiner)
10) Rich Lowry
11) Jonah Goldberg
I like many people on this list. However, they are just fucking wrong. And they always fucking lose. The only "conservative" they could all get behind, George W. Bush. Yeah, look how that turned out. And I like GWB as well!! But he was no conservative.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 13, 2014 07:51 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 07:51 AM (659DL)
Troy... if it makes you feel better (or helps you let go), it's actually worse than you think. It's not just that most of them lack conviction... they are already playing for the other side.
There... feel better?
Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Decade at March 13, 2014 07:51 AM (hHFOx)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 07:51 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 13, 2014 07:52 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 13, 2014 07:52 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: troyriser at March 13, 2014 11:47 AM (V9ol4)
I don't and won't give money to any political group. In my weak mind, things are moving more quickly than even the politicos could ever have imagined. And just like a drunk, sometimes the only cure is hitting rock bottom and the bottom is a lot closer than the middle from here.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 07:52 AM (BZAd3)
I just got an e-mail from the RNC, from John McCain, blathering about how we must elect Republicans to promote peace and freedom throughout the world.
Fuck you, McStain. I want to promote prosperity right here at home. A prosperous America will have the strength to protect itself and then promote peace and freedom.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 07:52 AM (zF6Iw)
You paid extra for that hash, didn't you? Diamond Level subscription?
You want regal disdain.
You'd settle for the Ampersand Package.
You get a cool hash.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 13, 2014 07:53 AM (A0sHn)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 13, 2014 07:53 AM (oFCZn)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/p3k934s
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 13, 2014 11:48 AM (o3MSL)
Wow. This administration is right on top of things alright.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 07:54 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at March 13, 2014 07:54 AM (bbivj)
I just got an e-mail from the RNC, from John McCain, blathering about how we must elect Republicans to promote peace and freedom throughout the world.
--------
I got the same one.
It started out "Friend..."
I stopped reading right there, jumped to the bottom, and clicked unsubscribe. What's odd is I never subscribed in the first place. It was sent to an email address I only use for personal stuff.
So the money people are sending to the GOP is enabling spam. THAT'S what those shiny computers you saw are doing, Gabe.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 13, 2014 07:54 AM (PFy0L)
It seems both parties are moving toward non-intervention in foreign policy. What do you folks think about a new isolationism? If the U.S. completes its withdrawal from world conflicts, who will act up first?
Posted by: Sphynx at March 13, 2014 07:54 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: t-bird at March 13, 2014 07:55 AM (FcR7P)
Bottom line. These assholes won't even go out of their way to curbstomp the media. Instead, they continue to play the game of politics as usual.
Sorry, we're well fucking beyond that. I daresay most thinking Americans are well aware of that.
Why isn't the GOP trying to make these people their constituency?
Because. They. Are. In. On. It. And they think promoting "cybertools" is going to get people to say "yep, they really get it now" and send money again.
Until they are holding daily press conferences, titled "Bullshit of the Day," and actually fighting these traitors, they deserve the same amount of contempt as the Dems.
Instead, we get a commercial released only to YouTube, about once every 2 months. And "hard work" toward amnesty.
Posted by: grognard at March 13, 2014 07:55 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at March 13, 2014 11:54 AM (bbivj)
But I bet they can print ampersands!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 13, 2014 07:55 AM (o3MSL)
Based on my perspective, it's the GOPe trying to claim credit for something that I doubt they had much to do with at all.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 13, 2014 11:48 AM (PFy0L)
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I'm sure the RNC is noticing the lack of green coming back from their fundraising mail. We're going to see some wild claims coming from this group, just so they can shill for the money they're not getting.
Posted by: Soona at March 13, 2014 07:55 AM (Wz9US)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 07:56 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Adam at March 13, 2014 07:56 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: t-bird at March 13, 2014 07:57 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 13, 2014 07:57 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: toby928© plays the bouzouki at March 13, 2014 07:58 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 07:58 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 13, 2014 07:58 AM (gBnkX)
Jefferson ran on a single issue - a central bank. He was against it.
He was a smart man. We should have listened.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 07:58 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 13, 2014 07:58 AM (APuJ7)
Posted by: mrp at March 13, 2014 07:59 AM (JBggj)
Posted by: Low-hanging fruit obligatory Barney Frank sock at March 13, 2014 07:59 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: Sphynx at March 13, 2014 11:54 AM (OZmbA)
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Pay attention. They've been acting up for almost 3 years now.
Posted by: Soona at March 13, 2014 07:59 AM (Wz9US)
Posted by: Zombie Dave Dudley for Malaysia Flight 370 at March 13, 2014 11:56 AM (BAS5M)
Heh. I love Dave Dudley. Cowboy Boots is my fave song.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 08:00 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 08:00 AM (659DL)
Posted by: ontherocks at March 13, 2014 08:00 AM (xoXX5)
Posted by: Chick Fil A at March 13, 2014 11:54 AM (+KtKI)
Dammit, now I want a Cookies and Cream shake.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 13, 2014 08:00 AM (DrWcr)
Yeah. No.
100%? Not one single miscue or mistaken vote? Really?
No. Bullshit. Statistically impossible given the laws of probability.
Posted by: Something at March 13, 2014 08:00 AM (ZW1Ga)
Posted by: SarahW at March 13, 2014 08:01 AM (Lbv/k)
prescient11, nice comment. I think I've posted before that I was shocked (and this was the late 80s) when my boss/senator asked for my comments on a George Will column. I took my incredulity to the chief of staff and he sort of rolled his eyes. I couldn't believe a senator actually took these columnists seriously - their shit was almost always very superficial and lightweight, and when correct, exclusively "duh, obvious".
The quality of "conservative" punditry, perhaps, just mirrors the cretinization of society as a whole. And especially the dumbing-down of what is considered "elite" and intelligent.
Pretty much a random process beyond our control now whether the US regains some of its positive and unique qualities. Odds are against, however. We are surrounded by people who happen to live here, most even born here, but cannot seriously - in any substantive, historically meaningful sense - be considered "Americans".
Posted by: non-purist at March 13, 2014 08:01 AM (afQnV)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 13, 2014 08:01 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 13, 2014 08:02 AM (APuJ7)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2014 08:02 AM (oMKp3)
Posted by: toby928© plays the bouzouki at March 13, 2014 08:03 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Beagle at March 13, 2014 08:03 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 08:03 AM (zoehZ)
I've always felt that if they were serious about saving the Republic, at least one Repub Congress person would be out on the Capitol steps every day pointing out the inherent evil foisted upon us by the progs!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 13, 2014 08:03 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Low-hanging fruit obligatory Barney Frank sock at March 13, 2014 08:03 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 13, 2014 08:04 AM (APuJ7)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 13, 2014 08:05 AM (PsyMC)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 13, 2014 08:05 AM (0MVzQ)
Posted by: Jerry Reed at March 13, 2014 08:05 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: buzzion at March 13, 2014 08:07 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 13, 2014 12:03 PM (o3MSL)
You see that. I see that. If they cared, they could use their status as elected representatives on the Federal level to play some fantastic mind-games with the media, including the Capitol steps bit. Sure, it would only work once, maybe twice, but then move to some other live circus that tricks the media.
If they cared, they could do these things. They try to convince us they care, but what do we see that reinforces that?
Working hard on amnesty.
Posted by: grognard at March 13, 2014 08:07 AM (/29Nl)
Let's call it Wrecking Ball and have Miley and Lena swing from it in the nude.
Posted by: Fritz at March 13, 2014 08:07 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 13, 2014 12:05 PM (PsyMC)
I think the value of that for you disappeared Nov 2012 after all your "reweighting" of polls to show the "true" percentages.
Posted by: buzzion at March 13, 2014 08:08 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 13, 2014 08:08 AM (A0sHn)
http://tinyurl.com/kyut7v6
Russia agrees to build two new nuke plants in Iran.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 08:08 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 13, 2014 08:08 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: non-purist at March 13, 2014 12:01 PM (afQnV)
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I've held this view since the weeks after 9/11 when the troofers and the anti-war assholes started their anti-American rhetoric. I've felt the feeling grow since then. So many citizens, so few Americans.
Posted by: Soona at March 13, 2014 08:08 AM (Wz9US)
You say that like it is a bad thing.
Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2014 08:09 AM (Aqvh6)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 13, 2014 08:09 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 08:10 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Sheryl Sandberg at March 13, 2014 08:11 AM (NersQ)
Re "isolationism", it's simpler, and worse, than that. Why right here in these comment threads you have folks (and some of them are among the smartest ones here) who are unserious about the world. They echo the ridiculous, ignorant whining with which the country beclowned itself during Iraq. Any war needs to be practically cost-free, and over within 3 weeks - AND produce, in places completely different, wonderful outcomes that it took two generations to create in Japan and Germany.
The vile, indefensible, irresponsible, de facto pro-totalitarian behavior of one entire political party after 9/11 made me view many of my fellow citizens as alien creatures for whom I will never feel the slightest sympathy or interest. The whiny, clueless, unserious, cowardly behavior of a large minority of the rest of the populace and the other party convinced me to never again consider "serving" the country outside its borders. And motivated me to help a few friends prevent their sons from considering military or other overseas service.
Posted by: non-purist at March 13, 2014 08:12 AM (afQnV)
Posted by: toby928© blurts at March 13, 2014 08:12 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: MTF at March 13, 2014 08:12 AM (NersQ)
Posted by: Drooling Millennial at March 13, 2014 08:13 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 13, 2014 12:09 PM (32Ze2)
The Republican party displaced the Whigs in one election with Lincoln. In my ignorant mind, a new party could draw a significant percentage from both existing parties and win. In my heart, I don't think all libs are insane, they just won't vote repub, but they would vote libertarian. Just my two idiotic cents.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 08:13 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 13, 2014 08:13 AM (T2V/1)
Policy positions matter. Posted by: Burn the Witch
Sounds like you're defending the people that sat out the election and let Obama win.
You'll have to explain to me how giving Obama a 2nd term is somehow a win for conservatism.
No amount of technology is going to fix a stupid voter.
Posted by: McAdams at March 13, 2014 08:13 AM (K1mZp)
Posted by: Hardwood Floors at March 13, 2014 08:15 AM (A0sHn)
Posted by: TimothyJ at March 13, 2014 08:15 AM (ep2io)
Posted by: Roy at March 13, 2014 08:15 AM (VndSC)
No amount of technology is going to fix a stupid voter.
Posted by: McAdams at March 13, 2014 12:13 PM (K1mZp)
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Vote Republican! Now with more Kardashian facebook!!
Posted by: Sphynx at March 13, 2014 08:17 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 08:18 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 08:18 AM (dfYL9)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 13, 2014 08:18 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 08:19 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: Sphynx at March 13, 2014 12:17 PM (OZmbA)
Did someone threaten to activate Kim's gigantic ass of doom?
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 08:19 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 13, 2014 08:19 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 13, 2014 08:19 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: toby928© blurts at March 13, 2014 08:20 AM (QupBk)
So constant prodding and pressuring is needed, and with early ballots and month long early voting, they can really make up for lost ground.
Conservatives usually don't need constant phone banking and direct mail to know they need to vote, but at the margins, it makes a difference.
Posted by: McAdams at March 13, 2014 08:21 AM (K1mZp)
Posted by: naturalfake at March 13, 2014 08:22 AM (0cMkb)
Posted by: t-bird at March 13, 2014 08:23 AM (FcR7P)
Problem solved! That's it! That's the ticket! If only they'd had this new database deployed to bring conservatives to the polls for McCain and Mitt. Yeah buddy, GOP Inc. is on fire now!
nu/archives /
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Posted by: Born Free at March 13, 2014 08:23 AM (xL8Hf)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 13, 2014 08:24 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 13, 2014 08:24 AM (gBnkX)
>>>Cannabis also enhances the enjoyment of sex – on the one hand it gives an exquisite sensitivity, but on the other hand it postpones orgasm<<<
The man worked it with both hands. While high. And he never got a Nobel!
Posted by: Fritz at March 13, 2014 08:24 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 13, 2014 12:18 PM (gBnkX)
... and how voting for faux conservatives is going to fix this mess we're in.
I saw an article where global debt just topped 100 trillion. We have nearly 130 trillion in 'unfunded' (meaning it has already been spent, just not accounted for, but is still owed) obligations.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 08:24 AM (BZAd3)
True. But the social media technology they're going on about is (a big) part of pop culture now. And pop culture sets the CW (conventional wisdom, e.g. gays are magical, Obama is a great president, etc.).
So you might think of Rep-Con efforts in social media as an attempt to affect/influence pop culture. Which might have unfortunate outcomes if all they can do is something like an elect Mitch McConnell video.
Posted by: Sphynx at March 13, 2014 08:24 AM (OZmbA)
Right on, McAdams. The cretinous voters of MO and IN who elected/re-elected, knowingly, unfit creatures for Senate who would continue/accelerate the national collapse have no defense.
And if the dogs don't eat the food, go ahead and demonize the dogs. Modest proposal: consider for a minute how profoundly pathetic an opposition party must be to fail to motivate even a desperate protest/survival vote from many of those astonished and appalled at the national condition.
It's every citizen's job to ensure the country is well governed. It's the job of the select few who run for office to convince those citizens to elect them. Yes it's amazing that anyone could sit out 2012 - but you can't fire the electorate. The dog-food producers have to find a way to make their food more apetizing to the dogs.
Posted by: non-purist at March 13, 2014 08:24 AM (afQnV)
http://tinyurl.com/kyut7v6
Russia agrees to build two new nuke plants in Iran.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 12:08 PM (BZAd3)
It almost seems if they are balls to the walls undermining the real possibility of Peace.
Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 08:24 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 08:25 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 08:25 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 08:25 AM (r7mtu)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 13, 2014 08:25 AM (APuJ7)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 08:25 AM (84gbM)
The reason we won Florida in 2000 is that the Dems wrote the instructions wrong and a bunch of these idiots voted twice for President, invalidating their votes for Gore.
Yeah. They're idiots. Idiots with a high percentage of illiteracy. Which makes it even MORE LIKELY that written or even verbal instructions would most likely fail at least some small percentage of the time. So 100%? Nah. Complete bullshit. That fucking election was stolen plain and simple.
Posted by: Something at March 13, 2014 08:26 AM (ZW1Ga)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 08:26 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: J Kerry at March 13, 2014 08:26 AM (APuJ7)
Posted by: MtTB at March 13, 2014 08:27 AM (lQCe+)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 13, 2014 08:27 AM (gBnkX)
You'll have to explain to me how voting for liberals is a win for conservatives. Posted by: Burn the Witch
I'm saying it's an idiot "conservative" voter that didn't vote in the last election because they felt Romney was not a better alternative to Obama.
I've never had a "perfect" conservative candidate run for office, but I sure as hell can see a stark difference.
I was annoyed by Geroge W. Bush and some of his "compassionate" conservative nonsense, but compared to Obama, I'll take that any day.
Posted by: McAdams at March 13, 2014 08:28 AM (K1mZp)
Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 08:28 AM (zOTsN)
for their children*
Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 08:28 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: naturalfake at March 13, 2014 08:28 AM (0cMkb)
It almost seems if they are balls to the walls undermining the real possibility of Peace.
Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 12:24 PM (nqBYe)
It isn't the first time mankind has deluded itself of the end of war. Nor, might I add, and against human nature, of the viability of socialism.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 08:29 AM (BZAd3)
http://goo.gl/s38ZMs
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 12:25 PM (r7mtu)
From the article, "drug charges", so I am guessing that he was a peaceful pot farmer/meth cooker....
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, We Be Bossy at March 13, 2014 08:30 AM (kXoT0)
Non-purist:
Indeed. Fantastic authors though have arisen that actually provide some purpose to counter these.
Mark Levin is hands down I think the best on strategy and overall purpose and vision.
It has been a joy to start listening to him.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 13, 2014 08:30 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 13, 2014 08:30 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 08:31 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Beagle at March 13, 2014 08:31 AM (sOtz/)
Has Chris Mathews observed anything with Russia , Ukraine, Poland and This administration?
You know how interested He USED to be about Chamberlain?
Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 08:31 AM (nqBYe)
But I made a vow to the moon and stars
That I'd search the honky-tonks and bars
And kill that man who gave me that awful name.
Posted by: NCwoof at March 13, 2014 08:31 AM (aUQgu)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 08:32 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 13, 2014 08:32 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 12:25 PM (84gbM)
I obviously don't know what he said about Obama, but I agree with him on the rest.
If this country doesn't get back to the "enumerated powers" model, its over. That's what I believe anyway. There are very few options left.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 08:33 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Vladimir Spicoli at March 13, 2014 08:33 AM (RiTnx)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 08:33 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 08:33 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 13, 2014 08:33 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: Sphynx at March 13, 2014 08:34 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 08:34 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Keena at March 13, 2014 08:34 AM (RiTnx)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 08:35 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: toby928© blurts at March 13, 2014 08:35 AM (QupBk)
This is tantamount to the grumpy old senile bastard who intentionally shits his Depends at the Thanksgiving Dinner just to let everyone else know he's still "relevant".
Hey. Any attention is better than the anonymity of grave.
Posted by: Something at March 13, 2014 08:35 AM (ZW1Ga)
and eat a dick.
Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 12:34 PM (nqBYe)
I'm taking your side on this one.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 08:36 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 08:36 AM (r7mtu)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 08:36 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: non-purist
You can't fire the electorate, but you sure as hell can blame the electorate.
I honestly don't blame the collapse of a state like California on the GOP being bad at politics, I blame it on the left-wing voters that keep voting for the same shit and act surprised when it doesn't work.
If someone truly is a conservative, but decided they had better things to do instead of vote that day or wanted to send a message, I'm saying you're really only empowering the Left with that strategy, and I don't think that's a voter we need to chase.
Had we nominated an alternative like Santorum in order to get this 1% of purists, we would have easily lost the election by double digits.
Posted by: McAdams at March 13, 2014 08:36 AM (K1mZp)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 08:37 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 08:37 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 13, 2014 08:37 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: Sphynx at March 13, 2014 08:38 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 13, 2014 08:39 AM (0HooB)
But i'm not feeling particularly gentle at this point either.
Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 08:39 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 08:39 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Rev Jim Jones at March 13, 2014 08:39 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 13, 2014 08:39 AM (HVff2)
299 LoneStar at least Levin puts his money where His mouth is.
Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 12:37 PM (nqBYe)
He's a smart guy. I agree that he can get over-the-top animated, but he speaks what I perceive to be the truth.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 08:39 AM (BZAd3)
Jolly won despite them.
In fact, late last week they were bailing on him and providing all that anonymous tripe to Politico about how his campaign was "incompetent" and Boehner's guys at the NRCC were leaning on him to endorse that crying, useless douche (which he later did on Twitter- but I guess that wan't good enough.
There are a whole lot of people that should stop sucking each others johnson on how great a job the "RNC" did..
The RNC does not have a better "model". It is the same stupid, partisan established shartbags that have been circle jerking themselves since the dawn of time.
I hope when Jolly gets to Washington he dick punches Boehner and bitch slaps that little incompetent girl Priebus.
/rant
Posted by: Marcus T at March 13, 2014 08:40 AM (GGCsk)
I have a special spot in Hell reserved for him, incidentally. While he was press secretary, Clinton dispatched him to Kent State with full symbolism to declare literal war on the American people. My victory is not complete until his war-crimes trial.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 13, 2014 08:40 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 08:40 AM (t3UFN)
Good for you. It's nice to know that you think people who don't mimic your policy preferences are "idiots."
Don't bother telling me again about not wanting perfection in candidates since you wrongheadedly seem to think it should exist in voters.
Posted by: Burn the Witch
Burn the Witch,
Just so there's no confusion, if you think "conservatives" sitting out the election in 2012 was justifiable, I'm calling you an idiot.
Even if you want to make the case that Romney was actually more liberal than Obama (also idiotic) what about all the other races down the ticket?
Conservatives not voting is not going to put the country on a better path.
Posted by: McAdams at March 13, 2014 08:40 AM (K1mZp)
Posted by: Kate and Edith Tuell at March 13, 2014 08:40 AM (ODr92)
Posted by: Fritz at March 13, 2014 12:24 PM (UzPAd)
A joint in one hand and his dick in the other...
Posted by: Insomniac at March 13, 2014 08:40 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Kool Aid Man at March 13, 2014 08:40 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 08:41 AM (84gbM)
Hey, you don't know me, but you don't like me
You say you care less how I feel
But how many of you that sit and judge me
Ever walked the streets of Bakersfield?
--- D Yoakim/Buck Owens
Posted by: NCwoof at March 13, 2014 08:41 AM (aUQgu)
Not if we get zee chihuahas.
Posted by: Blocking the right as 1st loser, your GOP-e[/i][/b][/s] at March 13, 2014 08:42 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 08:42 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: naturalfake at March 13, 2014 08:43 AM (0cMkb)
Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 08:43 AM (zoehZ)
Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 08:44 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Sphynx at March 13, 2014 08:44 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: toby928© blurts at March 13, 2014 08:45 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Kate and Edith Tuell at March 13, 2014 12:40 PM (ODr92)
By implication, compassionate conservatism turned 'conservate' into an expletive. It basically meant that we can haz our big government and still be conservatives. Newspeak bullshit.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 08:45 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 13, 2014 08:45 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 08:45 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Sphynx at March 13, 2014 11:54 AM (OZmbA)
Historically, the United States has not been able to maintain an isolationist stance since emerging as a great power in the early 20th Century. Although a two-ocean buffer between ourselves and the other great powers seems like a great argument for the isolationist viewpoint, that argument is instantly refuted by the existence of ICBMs, nuclear submarines and carrier-based fleets. Just because we say we don't want to play doesn't mean the game won't come to us.
As an aside, both Japan and China have exercised extreme isolationism at various points of their respective histories. It didn't work out well. Either engage the powers of the world or be prepared to be engaged by them, on their terms.
Posted by: troyriser at March 13, 2014 08:45 AM (V9ol4)
I've got a 14 point plan with some charts and a chalkboard outlining our certain victory to the Midterms and the WH!
Here's a hint:
The secret is Compassionate Conservatism!
Email me your donations for further details.
Let's CRUSH the TEA BAGGERS!!!!
Lean FORWARD!!!!!
Posted by: Karl (Turd Blossom) Rove at March 13, 2014 08:46 AM (ZW1Ga)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 13, 2014 08:46 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Malaysian Air Force at March 13, 2014 08:46 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 13, 2014 08:47 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 13, 2014 08:47 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: BossyBodine at March 13, 2014 08:48 AM (2LJqa)
You know it's bad when they have to keep advertising a giveaway.
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 13, 2014 08:48 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 08:48 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 08:48 AM (659DL)
Posted by: troyriser at March 13, 2014 12:45 PM (V9ol4)
Da. Do that. I dare you.
Posted by: Vladdie Putin at March 13, 2014 08:48 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 08:48 AM (t3UFN)
Just know it puts you in the same category as those who get their 'news' from the Daily Show.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 13, 2014 12:46 PM (SY2Kh)
Levin was chief of staff to Meese under Reagan. Also a real constitutional law professor.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 08:48 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: prescient11 at March 13, 2014 08:49 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 13, 2014 12:46 PM (SY2Kh)
Interesting. So you consider Levin to be the equivalent of Jon Stewart?
Okay.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 13, 2014 08:49 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 12:43 PM (zoehZ)
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Don't be so hard on Hollowpoint. He can express only so much "conservatism" being Juan McCain's spokesman.
Posted by: Soona at March 13, 2014 08:49 AM (Wz9US)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 13, 2014 08:50 AM (7ObY1)
The Landmark Legal Foundation is conservative non-profit 501(c)3 legal advocacy group, with a $1 million annual budget.[citation needed] The President is Mark Levin. Through litigation and direct interfacing with government agencies, it advances a platform of limited government.[1] Landmark has litigated a number of cases up to and before the US Supreme Court.
Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 08:51 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 13, 2014 08:51 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 13, 2014 08:51 AM (0HooB)
Conservatives voting for Republicans has a proven fail record.
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 13, 2014 08:51 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 08:51 AM (84gbM)
We have an election for State Rep, in what should be a fairly Conservative Central Valley district.... Dem is running UNOPPOSED.
Repubs are not even trying here anymore... which is why at least HERE we need another Alternative. Posted by: Romeo13
Again though, at some point you have to blame the voters. Even when there's been well funded, quality GOP candidates against absolutely horrible Democrats, the Democrats almost always win, except for small pockets of the state. It's about as liberal as a state can be and for the reasons you listed.
The fact that there's a state rep seat where the GOP is not running, that sort of thing happens all the time on both sides of the aisle. Probably because the California legislature is so lopsidedly Democrat, a GOP rep is basically a spectator.
Posted by: McAdams at March 13, 2014 08:51 AM (K1mZp)
If his voice (purely cosmetic issue) bothers you, then READ what he has written.
No amount of voice irritation can overcome the pursuit of the truth in what remains of the Republic.
Posted by: NCwoof at March 13, 2014 08:51 AM (aUQgu)
Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 08:51 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: prescient11 at March 13, 2014 08:52 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 13, 2014 08:52 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 13, 2014 08:52 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 13, 2014 08:52 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Kate and Edith Tuell at March 13, 2014 12:40 PM (ODr92)
And that is why the size of the federal government shrank under Bush
Posted by: buzzion at March 13, 2014 08:53 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 12:51 PM (nqBYe)
Plus he's a Jew. And as we all know, Jews are the best.
Happy Purim!
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 08:53 AM (BZAd3)
Nevergiveup:
He's on the ballot that you look at who he endorses in each race and vote for them!!
Posted by: prescient11 at March 13, 2014 08:53 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 13, 2014 08:54 AM (SY2Kh)
Romeo, nice observation about a Central Valley area (most likely devastated, economically, for years on end now? and perhaps even in a way directly related to the guvamint, i.e. Delta smelt/water?). I recall that in 2010, when one - (1) One that would be a single unit of measure - incumbent Dem officeholder in CA lost their seat, whilst the nation saw the 2nd greatest partisan change-over in 200+ years - some ag districts of CA had close to 40% unemployment. Depression-era levels.
CA's collapse in some ways is the story of the country. (yes, I did that there)
The collapse of the defense/aerospace industries, the emergency of the tech/web sector - these two trends pretty much substituted one default white shirt/black tie "conservative" voter of an earlier generation with one clueless (politically) young product of the national civic degradation era (60s onward). That's just one factor. The Hispanic thing, yeah, that too. The puzzling tendency of Asian immigrants to vote Dem (a more pristine inversion of political culture and policy instincts vs. selection of American political preference is hard to imagine).
Unionization of public "service" sector.
Oh - and doesn't that last one link back to the 2012 "sit-out" phenomenon? I thought that the absence of a large number of white male voters was key to Romney's defeat in the Midwest. I've been assuming a chunk of that is "Reagan Dems" - unionized cops/firefighters/etc. whose combined bigotry/envy ("rich guy not like me") and self-serving ignorant greed (union) kept them from voting for Romney. Which, if true, in the context of that election, pretty much is the final nail in the coffin for the country. Not the GOP - for the country, if these erstwhile backbones of common sense and centrist values have degraded to self-seeking bigoted ignoramuses like the busloads of the FSA who are herded to the polls to deliver their reliable mindless votes.
Posted by: non-purist at March 13, 2014 08:54 AM (afQnV)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 08:54 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 13, 2014 08:55 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 13, 2014 12:52 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 13, 2014 08:55 AM (4df7R)
Levin's voice really grated on me at first, but I've come to laugh and love it.
THAT'S RIGHT I SAID IT!!!! hahaha. He's just fucking awesome and with the bona fides to match it.
Who caught the IRS fucking over conservatives? Levin. It definitely wasn't Hollowpoint's anonymous comments.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 13, 2014 08:56 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 08:56 AM (dfYL9)
He currently makes his living as a radio celebrity entertainer, garnering ratings by telling his fans whatever they want to hear.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 13, 2014 12:54 PM (SY2Kh)
Ladies and gentlemen, he's gone to plaid.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 13, 2014 08:57 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 08:57 AM (zOTsN)
Are you
1) a Troll for the helluvit
2) a Dem troll
3) just a turd in the punchbowl kinda person
4) other fill in blank___________
??
Posted by: Sphynx at March 13, 2014 08:58 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 13, 2014 12:54 PM (SY2Kh)
Of course everybody has an opinion. He is STILL a practicing constitutional lawyer, and he has proffered many ideas for salvaging the republic. My opinion is that you are wrong on this one.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 08:58 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 13, 2014 08:58 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 13, 2014 08:58 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Paul at March 13, 2014 08:59 AM (9qDRl)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 13, 2014 08:59 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 08:59 AM (t3UFN)
Try slowing down when you read. Posted by: Burn the Witch
See, you won't sack up and say what you really believe, you just give these mealey-mouthed defenses that really say nothing.
Yes or no, do you think it was a good for conservatives to actively sit out the entire election in 2012 in order to make a point?
To just not vote at all if there was single person on the ballot you wish had not won the nomination?
If you want to start some sort of 3rd Party, fine, but to just sit on the sidelines until your Prince Charming comes and woos you to get off your lazy ass and vote sounds more like a typical LIV than a conservative.
Posted by: McAdams at March 13, 2014 08:59 AM (K1mZp)
But I decided to let him live.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 12:56 PM (dfYL9)
Could you please make arrangements to see Cher in concert?
Posted by: Sphynx at March 13, 2014 09:00 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 09:00 AM (659DL)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 13, 2014 12:59 PM (VtjlW)
In many ways, this is the story of Obama.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 13, 2014 09:00 AM (4df7R)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida%27s_13th_congressional_district
Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 13, 2014 09:00 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: BossyBodine at March 13, 2014 09:00 AM (2LJqa)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 09:00 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 09:00 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 13, 2014 09:01 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 13, 2014 01:00 PM (4df7R)
I. can't. get. off. the. floor!!!
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 09:01 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 09:01 AM (zOTsN)
What exactly about that is theory?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 13, 2014 09:01 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 13, 2014 09:01 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 13, 2014 09:02 AM (jlm/B)
Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 09:02 AM (zOTsN)
McAdams:
Crazy as it sounds, I do think it's better that obama won. It's come to that.
Romney sickens me w/ that bullshit support of Brewer's veto. And, on top of that shit sandwich, we get Paul "amnesty now mother fucker" Ryan as VP.
WHY IN THE FUCK ARE WE VOTING FOR ASSHOLES THAT VIOLATE OUR CORE PRINCIPLES???
No mas, for a language that Ryan might understand. I don't want conservatives to be blamed for progressive republican fucking retards.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 13, 2014 09:02 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 13, 2014 09:02 AM (VtjlW)
I'm glad someone else has admitted to buying tickets to see dead musicians. Jim Morrison won't disappoint me now.
Posted by: Soona at March 13, 2014 09:02 AM (Wz9US)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 09:03 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 13, 2014 01:01 PM (SY2Kh)
So you're only valuable because of what you're famous for? What you do otherwise is unimportant and renders your opinions vacuous and/or moot?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 13, 2014 09:04 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 13, 2014 09:04 AM (HVff2)
Vic:
I think you're wrong on that. This is a quote, from Slate granted, but it's quoting a DCCC email:
"President Obama won a majority of the vote across the district in 2008 (51.9% of the vote) and again in 2012 (50.7%)"
Posted by: prescient11 at March 13, 2014 09:05 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 09:05 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 13, 2014 01:01 PM (SY2Kh)
You shoulda just stopped digging.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 09:05 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 13, 2014 01:02 PM (VtjlW)
*adds "wailing gashes" to list of all-time favorite vaginalogue insults*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 13, 2014 09:05 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 01:02 PM (zOTsN)
---------------------------------------------
Hollowpoint, I'm sure, will state that this is just more entertainment buffoonery.
Posted by: Soona at March 13, 2014 09:06 AM (Wz9US)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 13, 2014 09:06 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 09:06 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 09:06 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 09:06 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 13, 2014 09:07 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: prescient11
Well, I'll give you credit for at least being honest about what you believe.
But I think you're greatly overstating the value of a "Ha, I told you so!" moment.
Posted by: McAdams at March 13, 2014 09:07 AM (K1mZp)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 13, 2014 09:07 AM (JQuNB)
Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 09:07 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 09:07 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Jerry Reed at March 13, 2014 09:08 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 13, 2014 01:07 PM (JQuNB)
*snigger* That'd be AWESOME.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 13, 2014 09:08 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Mr. Haney at March 13, 2014 09:08 AM (JBggj)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 09:08 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 13, 2014 09:09 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 13, 2014 09:09 AM (4df7R)
<<
Well, I am at this exact moment sitting on top of Baby Oil . . . etc.
Posted by: Kate Upton at March 13, 2014 09:09 AM (OZmbA)
That's like screaming at spouse slamming the car door and finding yourself in the middle of the desert in the dark.
Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 09:09 AM (nqBYe)
McAdams:
This is coming from a guy with a Romney sign, who publicly laughed at obama at every turn and who volunteered and went to meetings for Romney.
The last Republican president that I had pride in was Ronald Reagan.
And I went door to door for GWB, for days. Still like the man, but as a man, and anyone who was worth a damn in that administration had Reagan ties.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 13, 2014 09:09 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 01:09 PM (nqBYe)
...There's a story there.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 13, 2014 09:10 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 09:10 AM (dfYL9)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 09:10 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 09:10 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Inquiring Liberal at March 13, 2014 09:10 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 13, 2014 09:10 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 13, 2014 09:11 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 13, 2014 09:11 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 09:11 AM (zOTsN)
Yes. You ALWAYS start a radio show unconcerned about ratings and . . .
Posted by: Alternate Universe Rush, Hannity or Levin at March 13, 2014 09:12 AM (OZmbA)
McAdams: What I meant to say is that I'm not happy at all with an "I told you so" moment. I'm depressed, disappointed and angry.
No more letting these fucking squishes run the top of the ticket.
From our shitty faux conservative writers they try to convince us that Ted Cruz, champion ivy league debater, is just as crazy and wild as Ted fucking Nugent.
Yeah, not buying it assholes. So go fuck yourself and get your shine box. You've lost every popular vote SINCE 1992!!!!! except 2004, you fucking GOPe idiots. We've done it your way since ELEVENTY.
Time to nominate an actual conservative.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 13, 2014 09:12 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Soona at March 13, 2014 09:12 AM (Wz9US)
Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 09:12 AM (zoehZ)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 13, 2014 09:14 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 09:14 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 09:15 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 13, 2014 09:16 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: NCwoof at March 13, 2014 09:18 AM (aUQgu)
He currently makes his living as a radio celebrity entertainer, garnering ratings by telling his fans whatever they want to hear.
Posted by: Hollowpoint
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Mr Ezra Klein!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 09:19 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 13, 2014 09:19 AM (R8hU8)
He said: "Now you just fought one hell of a fight
And I know you hate me, and you got the right
To kill me now, and I wouldn't blame you if you do.
But ya ought to thank me, before I die,
For the gravel in ya guts and the spit in ya eye
Cause I'm the son-of-a-bitch that named you "Sue.'"
Posted by: NCwoof at March 13, 2014 09:22 AM (aUQgu)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 09:22 AM (r7mtu)
No more letting these fucking squishes run the top of the ticket.
Time to nominate an actual conservative.
Posted by: prescient11
I can completely understand frustration with a nominee, but we have primaries where we give our input. Remember, with Bush v. McCain, the more conservative candidate beat the "electable" Establishment moderate or Reagan vs Bush is another good example. And Richard Lugar was tossed on his ear in the Senate 2012. So it does happen.
I think the big problem is, candidate quality matters and Republican voters are not going to set themselves up for a trainwreck in order to just vote against the Establishment. It takes more than ideology.
Romney was too much of a centrist for my tastes, but I'm not going to put up a Santorum as a protest and hand the country over to Democrats.
I don't think sitting out elections helps, and I definitely don't think helping Democrats win in order to help set up some sort of backlash is the way to win back the country. It sounds like you're not a fan of either strategy,so thank you.
Posted by: McAdams at March 13, 2014 09:27 AM (K1mZp)
McAdams:
I understand completely. Until now. From now on I will sit out, and so will millions I believe.
You think winning before was hard, it will be impossible now. No more fake conservatives. No more progressive big govt GOP. Never again.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 13, 2014 09:31 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 13, 2014 09:35 AM (SY2Kh)
You think winning before was hard, it will be impossible now. No more fake conservatives. No more progressive big govt GOP. Never again.
Posted by: prescient11
So if one person on the ballot has an "R" next to their name that you feel is not sufficiently conservative, you're just no longer going to vote at all?
I don't think millions are going to follow that strategy.
And to work hard for Romney during the election and then hating him because he lost, that sounds like a fair-weather fan to me that has nothing to do with actual policy differences with the candidate and more about just not wanting to even have the sting of losing.
Posted by: McAdams at March 13, 2014 09:39 AM (K1mZp)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 13, 2014 09:53 AM (VtjlW)
Late again to a FL-13 thread, but for our children who may one day find this thread in the post-atomic wreckage of our long lost civilization:
1. It's not a surprise win. A R+1 district that was redrawn after the last census to be one of the whitest places in Florida narrowly went Republican. Better than a loss, but not a resounding victory.
2. And the Wapo story on the day of the election had the Repubs returning more of the absentee ballots, but -- as per CAC -- the Dems getting more votes from those ballots. So ORCA II still has voter intent ID problems.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 10:08 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 13, 2014 11:09 AM (SY2Kh)
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