January 06, 2013
— Open Blogger I donÂ’t know whether it is some sort of über-hip response to conventional expectations, or maybe itÂ’s the prevalence of young chefs who know how to cook but donÂ’t have the management experience to crack the whip with the help, but too many restaurants with solid, interesting kitchens and bars have lousy service. Oh, the waiters are unique in their own waysÂ…with a fascinating collection of tattoos, piercings, odd haircuts, ripped shirts, pants around their thighs, pendulous breasts untethered by anything so pedestrian as a bra, ultra-cool facial hair (if they actually have enough testosterone to grow it), and many other irritating affectations that make me want to drag them outside and beat them.
But the worst by far is the exaggerated disinterest in the job at hand. Look, I know that you are a playwright (or an actor or a performance artist) and not a waiter, but in the interest of paying the rent, why donÂ’t you actually pay attention to the work for which your employer and I are paying you.
These two restaurants are in New York City, but the experience is common to pretty much every metropolitan area in the country.
The Meatball Shop is a great place on the Lower East Side (otherwise known as hipster heaven) for a quick meal, or a snack and an excellent beer. But be prepared to tolerate some profoundly bored waiters. And we were almost in our seats when the greeter rushed over and gave our table to her just-arrived friends. Oh, here is a tip for our waiter: silverware is almost always a good idea.
The Redhead is an East Village pub with first-rate Southern influenced food, and some innovative cocktails that wowed the table. But you know what would have made the very good meal even better? Getting all the drinks we ordered instead of being served the beer that came out of the closest tap. And that oldie-but-goodie advice about silverware? ItÂ’s just as true above Houston as below.
These two restaurants were worth the visit, especially because we were in the neighborhood. But please, when you eat at the equivalent in your neck of the woods, make the tip appropriate to the level of service you receive, and not a reflexive gesture. Maybe that budding actor needs some feedback so that in the unlikely event that he doesnÂ’t make it big in the next off-off-Broadway production of Waiting For Godot, he has something to fall back on that he does well.
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Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 01:40 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 01:41 PM (GcWBz)
Can't argue with that point, but when I go to a restaurant in NYC, must I be plagued with these toads?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 01:42 PM (GsoHv)
I'm sorry, was this all on the same server? Because that would be so NYC.
Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 01:42 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 06, 2013 01:45 PM (o1kXv)
Posted by: G. at January 06, 2013 01:45 PM (PeX8d)
Posted by: VIA, on the tiny keyboard at January 06, 2013 01:47 PM (8jDEF)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 05:42 PM (GsoHv)
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Absolutely. It's part of that shithole's ambience.
Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 01:48 PM (GcWBz)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 01:50 PM (b1VIZ)
Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 01:50 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Zombie Patron at January 06, 2013 01:50 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 05:50 PM (b1VIZ)
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Hooter's has food?
Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 01:51 PM (GcWBz)
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 01:53 PM (w3+gB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 01:53 PM (HXcdb)
Hooter's has food?
Yes, but it's apparently in poor taste to order a milkshake and then motorboat the waitress.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 06, 2013 01:53 PM (o1kXv)
Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 05:51 PM
Sure, beer is a grain and according to the food pyramid grains are the most important.
Posted by: Beto at January 06, 2013 01:54 PM (BAnPT)
Posted by: FURPC at January 06, 2013 01:55 PM (0ImZM)
Posted by: RushBabe at January 06, 2013 01:55 PM (tQHzJ)
Posted by: Jade Sea at January 06, 2013 01:56 PM (x1tp+)
Posted by: Guy Fieri at January 06, 2013 01:56 PM (tEGWR)
I can always dine in someone else's parking lot.
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 01:56 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: taylork at January 06, 2013 01:57 PM (ppNDn)
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2013 01:57 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Ends With Prepositions And Fists at January 06, 2013 01:57 PM (I4o0Z)
Posted by: DangerGirl at January 06, 2013 01:59 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2013 01:59 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2013 05:57 PM (BAS5M)
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You said these two places were in a strip mall........?
Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 01:59 PM (GcWBz)
Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 01:59 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Guy Fieri at January 06, 2013 01:59 PM (tEGWR)
Posted by: taylork at January 06, 2013 02:00 PM (ppNDn)
A quote from the whore monger, "“I love and always have loved policy issues and trying to have an impact on the issues that are out there,” he said. “I cherish my years in government. I have loved my participation at CNN, at Current; writing; teaching. Where I will go next, I will have to sort out.”
The asshole has no shame.
Posted by: Long Island at January 06, 2013 02:01 PM (hl8SI)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 02:01 PM (G9qZk)
Posted by: DangerGirl at January 06, 2013 05:59 PM (GrtrJ)
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I have made some exceptions to that rule. Especially if it involves BBQ.
Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 02:01 PM (GcWBz)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 02:02 PM (HXcdb)
government. I have loved my participation at CNN, at Current; writing;
teaching. Where I will go next, I will have to sort out.”
mop n bucket man at all night peep show
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 02:02 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Beto at January 06, 2013 02:03 PM (BAnPT)
Posted by: dodging bullets in Chicago at January 06, 2013 02:03 PM (wx8cF)
Rudest waitstaff (US) = Boston. I assume the college student factor combined with the obnoxious Bostonian factor
Rudest waitstaff (int'l) = France
Most inept waitstaff = Orem/Provo and Park City off-season. Fortunately, Salt Lake pulls a fairly decent group of servers.
In fairness to the Orem/Provo kids, the people here will not pay for service. They want cheap food, fast service, and kid-friendly. Needless to say, we tend to drive north for good meals.
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 02:04 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 02:04 PM (HXcdb)
** I say this as someone who waited tables in high school and college **
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 06, 2013 02:05 PM (HDgX3)
Moved to Dallas, the service blows me away, as well as anyone who visits from the Northeast or Westcoast
Posted by: phreshone at January 06, 2013 02:06 PM (0SXI6)
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Lots of low-talkers in this generation, too. Passive-aggressive behavior, imho.
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 02:06 PM (5H6zj)
The Cosmopolitan was positively obsequious to guests during its first six months of operation, then later opted for "just the wrong amount of wrong" on drink service on the casino floor, room cleaning, etc.
Aria had a very long line at check-in for two solid days (January 3-5); Planet Ho allowed perhaps the smelliest homeless guy in the world to wander around the Earl of Sandwich--his stink lingered long after he had shuffled off, rendering the Earl's otherwise great sandwiches inedible.
And there seems to be a growing trend for casinos to allow children on the gaming floor. I've seen kids sitting on the floor leaning against a wall near the keno lounge at 11pm, no doubt waiting for mom & dad to hit that mega-keno progressive so they all could eat and get a room to sleep in. I've seen three teenagers walking across Aria's casino floor carrying four-foot-long skateboards; Bellagio is a virtual Disneyland of kids, with what often seems like a 1-to-1 ratio of gamblers to children. Normally, I don't have anything against kids, but come on, parents! I don't bring hookers and blow to ride in the Pirates of the Caribbean boat with me (although the auto-pic I could get in the front seat of the Grizzly River Run makes that very tempting); stop bringing your snotnosed spawn to Vegas.
I realize I've drifted a bit afield from restaurant grousing, but hospitality is hospitality, and the current generation filling the lower end of jobs is unfamiliar with the word; most of the excellent service I've seen lately has come from older people.
Posted by: jwpaine (@PirateBallerina) at January 06, 2013 02:06 PM (VcDCJ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2013 02:06 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 02:06 PM (G9qZk)
As for waiters in NYC I am not surprised that the service is shit. Strossel did a special a few weeks ago and he interviewed a manager of a restaurant in NYC. The manager said he can not hire waiters and keep them even as they were making about $150 - $200 per day in salary and tips STARTING.
For that you can blame all the liberal payments for NOT working.
Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 02:07 PM (53z96)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 06, 2013 02:07 PM (UTq/I)
We got crap service at Blue Smoke...a Danny Meyer joint.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 02:08 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 02:08 PM (HXcdb)
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That's hard to believe since it is strictly forbidden for anyone under 21 to be in the gaming area and management follows shit like that to the letter since fines are high for breaking the law.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 06, 2013 02:09 PM (HDgX3)
We have the safest food in the world. Why they insist upon creating more regulation and not just trying to enforce the old, simple stuff is textbook liberalism.
Is that a new hash?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 02:09 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 06, 2013 02:09 PM (tEGWR)
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I don't doubt it. The only time I've had good service in a Chinese restaurant in the US is when I've been dining with a Chinese-speaking person.
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 02:10 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 06, 2013 02:11 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 06, 2013 06:09 PM (tEGWR)
Never been. But my in-laws like it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 02:12 PM (GsoHv)
\Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 06:09 PM (GsoHv)
Yeah, it changed on its own last week.
Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 02:12 PM (53z96)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2013 02:12 PM (MBqvE)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 02:12 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Truman North at January 06, 2013 02:13 PM (I2LwF)
The folks I rarely like are the hostesses. It's rare that they do a good job and not unusual for them to manage to irritate me in my 20 second contact with them.
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 02:13 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Jade Sea at January 06, 2013 02:13 PM (x1tp+)
I always try to visualize what it would be like to have sex with my waitress. That's how I evaluate and tip. That may sound shallow, sexist and vulgar, but it makes the wait for the meal full of fantasy projection. Waiters, not so much.
I was at a restaurant for lunch a few months ago, and one of the waitresses was so built and so hot, that it really made the meal go fast, and I really don't remember how good the food was.
Hooters is full of young girls that could be my daughter. That's a big turn-off. I was at a Hooters in Grand Rapids years ago, and one of my "co-workers" was flirting with this girl that could have been his daughter. That's just plain sick. 
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...... at January 06, 2013 02:13 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 06:07 PM (53z96)
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$150/200 a day for NYC? Meh. I made $100-150 a night when I bar-tended in college on a good night. And this was 15 years ago in a place with 1/2 the cost of living of NYC.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 06, 2013 02:14 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 02:14 PM (QupBk)
According to their own figures, there were 14 deaths from food illness last year. The rules (every farmer must submit a safety plan for govt approval) will cost each producer thousands. And it doesn't touch imported food, which has twice the death toll. Same old, same old.
And when you boil it down, the business end of the law is all stuff that county and state inspectors ought to be doing anyway, or things already in the USDA bailiwick. They just decided not to do their job until they got a shitload more power.
Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 02:14 PM (qaVK+)
I have a longstanding and visceral hatred for NYC and its inhabitants, so learning that people who live there are having to endure shitty restaurant service is just distilled schadenfreude for me.
With luck they'll get food poisoning too.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 06, 2013 02:14 PM (gqT4g)
The wait staff we have in the little hick town near here is damn good too because the know they are working for tips.
I have had more problems with customers ruing my dining experience than wait staff. Such as a woman who changed her baby's diaper on the table next to me while I was eating.
Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 02:14 PM (53z96)
But where the fuck is the pride in doing something well? And how come your casual dining joints in Bristol County MA can get better waiters than NYC?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 02:15 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Truman North at January 06, 2013 02:15 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 06, 2013 02:16 PM (tEGWR)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 02:16 PM (QupBk)
Bar tenders typically make a lot more in tips than table waiters and that was starting salary.
Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 02:16 PM (53z96)
My most recent pet peeve is the greeter attempting to seat me at the bar even when I ask for a table. I appreciate that I'm eating alone, I appreciate that you're busy, I will quite happily take the tiny little table in the corner that gets hit by the door to the kitchen but do not fucking say oh you'll like the bar better. No. No, I fucking won't. I'll be in and out fairly quickly, I'm a very easy customer and I'm a very good tipper. If I notice that it's very crowded, then I'll ask for the bar. But if not? Do not try seating me there.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 02:17 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: CraigPoe at January 06, 2013 02:17 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Jehu at January 06, 2013 02:17 PM (cSD32)
My vote for worst service by the friendliest waitstaff in the world goes to:
Every restaurant in the Republic of the Philippines.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 02:18 PM (b1VIZ)
Posted by: Ends With Prepositions And Fists at January 06, 2013 02:18 PM (I4o0Z)
Union Square Cafe is the best bar dining in NYC. Best food/bartender combination...hands down.
He knows what he is doing, but Blue Smoke is out of control for some reason. Weird.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 02:18 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 02:19 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: . at January 06, 2013 02:19 PM (Q8Wa9)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 06, 2013 02:19 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: keena at January 06, 2013 02:21 PM (JpqtI)
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Someone mentioned the great service in Chicago.. I gotta agree..
EXCEPT for waiters in Greek restaurants! Usually they are older Greek men and they all have the same peevish attitude.. like you are imposing on them and would you please hurry up and decide between the fucking leg of lamb and the souvlaki!
Now, if you are talking about the Greek-owned family restaurants with a 10 page menu of all kinds of food, then I will agree. Those make up half the restaurants in the Chicago area.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 06, 2013 02:21 PM (UTq/I)
It all shows daily drip by drip the indisputable evidence that todayÂ’s liberalism is truly a dangerous mental disorder. ItÂ’s no longer a political persuasion, rather a vicious lazy way of life cult. An infectious blind idiocy promoted with squalling child like credence that needs to sicken all to survive. A fair analogy that defines socialism and like a cancer, only one solution to survive it.
Kill the host?
Posted by: Infidel at January 06, 2013 02:21 PM (bzOLE)
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When I was younger, I'd take the table given to me. Now I routinely ask for a different one.
Huge pet peeve is for a hostess (ahem) to seat lousy tables first in a not full restaurant or to seat everyone in one section. I understand about sections, but I do not want to listen to the other diners' conversations.
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 02:21 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 02:21 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 02:21 PM (G9qZk)
Having eaten many meals in Paris, I have to say that the waiters, etc. are not all the penultimate rude people typically described.
Younger people that are waiters/waitresses are almost always polite and friendly. It's the older people that are rather aloof and appearing rude. Also, while it is customary to order drinks first in an American restaurant, when you do that in Paris, it ticks off the waiters because they think you are just there to drink and not order a meal.
I've eaten a couple of times at this little restaurant in the Latin Quarter in Paris, and because it is family owned, the help really knock themselves out to give good service. One of the first times I had a restaurant meal in Paris was at another small restaurant, where two absolutely beautiful women were doing the table waiting, and they were both very friendly and pleasant.
The small family owned restaurants usually have pretty good servive, even if they don't have tipping in Paris.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...... at January 06, 2013 02:22 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: The Ghost of Flannery O'Connor at January 06, 2013 02:24 PM (mMtFx)
Especially popular were the ones about movie stars or other rich people who would come in with a huge crowd run up a huge bill then stiff them with little or no tip.
That's why they are no longer around. One of those "rich people" sued them.
Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 02:24 PM (53z96)
Posted by: EBL at January 06, 2013 02:25 PM (09GRP)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2013 02:25 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 02:26 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2013 02:26 PM (MBqvE)
Posted by: The Ghost of Flannery O'Connor at January 06, 2013 06:24 PM (mMtFx)
Maybe that's why it was good the times I was there. It was still British when I was there. Singapore was good too.
Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 02:26 PM (53z96)
@100
The other nice thing about eating in Paris or France in general, is that the children are extremely well behaved. None are running around going apeshit in the restaurant and no parents are begging them to do anything. I also like that the people are not screamingly loud and there is not music blasting so you have to yell to talk to your friends. Yes, there are some wonderful things about France. Think that covered them all!
Posted by: keena at January 06, 2013 02:27 PM (JpqtI)
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 02:27 PM (qw+yV)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 02:28 PM (G9qZk)
Moo Moo: I know. I recall me and a buddy of mine were going on leave (a bazillion years ago) from A school in the Navy, and stopped in Vegas. I was legal, he was a year too young (which I didn't know). He put a quarter in a machine as we were walking to a restuarant in some casino and of course hit a hand-pay, and jeebuz! security was on him like white on rice. Only my constant insistence that I had hit the hand-pay caused them to back off and pay me (after making my buddy go stand at the entrance).
At the Bellagio just a couple of years ago, my wife tripped over a stroller as she was walking across the gaming floor. Mommy was pushing Baby across the floor, and sorry to say, my wife was not watching for cross-traffic strollers among the slot machines.
In any case, I would imagine there's been no back-off to that law, but man, the number of kids I see in the casino these days makes me wish the mob was still running that town.
Posted by: jwpaine (@PirateBallerina) at January 06, 2013 02:28 PM (VcDCJ)
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 06, 2013 02:28 PM (zOP5o)
Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 06, 2013 02:29 PM (G6kli)
With about three exceptions, mosta youse would get run outta my jernt.
Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 02:29 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 02:29 PM (qw+yV)
Posted by: keena at January 06, 2013 06:27 PM (JpqtI)
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I've never met anyone from France I didn't like. It's like collectively the country is a jerk. But individually they're very nice people. Weird.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 06, 2013 02:29 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 06, 2013 02:29 PM (RuUvx)
Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 02:32 PM (53z96)
Of course, the other thing about restaurants in general in Europe is that people will bring their dogs in with them to the restaurant. Not so much the loud and out of control children, but dogs in a restaurant.
Years ago, we were having dinner in this nice little place in the Operahouse District, and one of my co-workers got dogshit on her purse when she put it on the floor under the table. That's something that usually doesn't happen at TGI Fridays, for all its other shortcomings.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...... at January 06, 2013 02:33 PM (Md8Uo)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade is the best and true ending for the Indiana franchise. Crystal skulls, meh!
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 02:33 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Fart at January 06, 2013 02:33 PM (erQJO)
Posted by: RickZ at January 06, 2013 02:33 PM (3o0hi)
What I've seen more of recently are snotty customers ripping into waitstaff. I saw an old lady just tear into some girl who'd spilled something on the lady's purse. Mistake yeah but she was apologetic.
I said something later to the waitress and she wasn't as livid as I'd have been, which is why I last as a waiter until my first incident, then I'd be kicked off the property.
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 02:34 PM (MPjT8)
And while we're at it, maybe someone smarter than me can explain why they insist on clearing my table first. I am sure that they have been instructed to do so, but I don't understand why. I want the check when I am done.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 02:34 PM (4Mv1T)
One of my favorite lunch places in San Francisco's Financial District is Schroeder's. Great German food and it was served by REAL NAZIs!
Talk about crisp saurbraten served crisply.....
Took a date to the Waldorf-Astoria one time and the service was too, too much. Wouldn't let us eat and smooze in peace and then added their own tip to the bill.
Posted by: Whitehall at January 06, 2013 02:35 PM (FmPSC)
Posted by: The Heartland - where people still act like they enjoy life at January 06, 2013 02:35 PM (0JB89)
Posted by: The Ghost of Flannery O'Connor at January 06, 2013 02:35 PM (mMtFx)
I am not referring to the attractive kind, but rather to the busty-dyke-with-an-attitude-and-no-bra kind.
The ones who can tuck their nipples into their pockets.
The sexy ones are guaranteed a 20% tip from me, and I don't usually notice whether they serve me the correct order.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 02:37 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2013 02:37 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Cashpipe at January 06, 2013 02:37 PM (75sW/)
in general, is that the children are extremely well behaved. None are
running around going apeshit in the restaurant and no parents are
begging them to do anything.
I am notoriously child unfriendly but I will admit to having a huge double standard when it comes to kids in restaurants. If I'm in a nicer place, then keep your screaming brats home. If I'm in TGIF on kid's eat free night? Please keep your kid from puking on my food. If I voluntarily go to a family restaurant then that's on me.
I will also say that I do not comprehend people who insist on taking small kids, say six or seven years old and younger, out to fancy restaurants. Of course the kids are acting up, there's nothing for them to eat and there's nothing for them to do. If you can't afford the sitter, then don't go out.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 02:37 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 06, 2013 02:37 PM (iHs4Z)
Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 02:38 PM (RlvM2)
Posted by: Uncle Jed at January 06, 2013 02:38 PM (AVfT8)
Might be fun to watch them cry when Gordon Ramsay unleashes that gate to Hell he calls a mouth though
Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 02:40 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Mike James at January 06, 2013 02:40 PM (cgDgK)
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 02:42 PM (qw+yV)
?Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 02:42 PM (qw+yV)
AtC- actually my kids were better behaved when they were 7 and 4 than when they were 16 and 13.
They have gotten a little bit better lately (18 and 15 now), but it is really annoying when people have small or medium sized children that don't behave. Years ago I was at dinner with my boss, his wife and my wife at a rather casual dining place, and the table next to us only had kids at it. Their parents were seated at the other side of the restaurant. Even the waitstaff was embarrassed about how that went. I came really close to picking a fight with one of the Dads as we all left together - it was that miserable.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...... at January 06, 2013 02:43 PM (Md8Uo)
I prefer them with mustard, sauerkraut, and potato-salad. And beer.
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 02:43 PM (w3+gB)
Posted by: Your waiter who is really an oppressed performance artist at January 06, 2013 02:44 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 02:44 PM (qw+yV)
Posted by: Ends With Prepositions And Fists at January 06, 2013 02:44 PM (I4o0Z)
Posted by: Jonathan Swift at January 06, 2013 02:45 PM (Vk2pI)
Wonderful opportunity -- these f--ksticks, with nearly the same regularity as black people, voted for Obama. So I shouldn't have to tell you how to tip.
Personally, I don't patronize the restaurants in the first place. But in those rare times I do, I'm looking for that "I'm Julia" or "I belive in Hope & Change" "Coexist"-y kinda vibe. Oh... $40 meal for two? Sorry... here's a buck-o-five for a tip.
Posted by: Sam In VA at January 06, 2013 02:46 PM (YCvRs)
Posted by: derit at January 06, 2013 02:47 PM (I88Jc)
No, they are both successful. I think it is the NY attitude that if the place isn't relatively formal, then service can be an afterthought.
I don't buy it, and won't spend my money at places that don't take service seriously. Hell, most diners have better service than these kinds of places.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 02:48 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2013 02:49 PM (MBqvE)
Must be talking about the ones at GITMO that Oscar Brand knew about. Try about 1:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M1JHtNJvw8
Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 02:49 PM (53z96)
Soona wins this one. NYC can go to HE double toothpicks.
Posted by: Jacke at January 06, 2013 02:49 PM (5Cwv4)
Someone woke up on the bitchy side of bed.
Posted by: DC Zombie at January 06, 2013 02:50 PM (EZ3C3)
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Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 02:54 PM (53z96)
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Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 02:55 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Zippity Doo Dah at January 06, 2013 02:56 PM (E55AK)
I so fucking hate our tipping system. e.g., when my mom, sister, daughter and neice go have lunch, we are there for about 2 hours, and all the grownups are drinking lots o' beers. The wait-staff, if they know us, will give great service, but there's lots of turnover at these places, and the ones who don't know us, size us up as bad tippers. because we're women with children. We are super-generous tippers, but some don't get to know that, because of their self-fulfilling prophesies. So we tip well, even though bad service, and maybe eradicate their view of "women", or we tip minimally, because of the horrible service. I don't know what's right. But we almost always do the former. Even if we're evil republicans. ('cept Mom.)
This para-Superbowl is making me a bit drunk, so please excuse the hiccups.
Posted by: kalneva at January 06, 2013 02:57 PM (S+/pH)
147 Who eats out?
Posted by: mama winger at January 06, 2013 06:45 PM (P6QsQ)
Oh my....you didn't really go there, did you??
Posted by: JMKN1 at January 06, 2013 02:58 PM (JMKN1)
A few years ago, I was in a very high end steak house when two families came in with small children. They were seated a table over from me and within five minutes the kids were shrieking and crying and running around. My waitress came over to ask if I needed anything and I said, very very loudly, "Yes, a new table as soon as possible." She said she'd be right back. One of the mothers comes stomping over and starts to light into me for being rude. I cut her off with "Oh, I'm sorry, are you going to be paying the $100 or so bill that this meal will be? Because if not, I don't think I'm being unreasonable by asking that we both be allowed to enjoy our meals." She goes stomping off, though not after calling me a cunt, and I go back to sipping my martini. The manager came over and apologized as they moved all my stuff and I told him that it wasn't his problem that apparently people had no consideration for others.
I could tell my waitress was convinced I was going to short her on the tip but she still gave great service. I made sure that she saw I was leaving a her 30% tip and I thought she was going to cry.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 02:59 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 02:59 PM (MPjT8)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 03:00 PM (G9qZk)
You were kinder to her than I would have been.
Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 03:01 PM (53z96)
If you can get me a gig like Hänsel und Gretel with Kirsten-what's-her-name as the main dish, we'll talk.
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 03:02 PM (w3+gB)
Not the waitress' fault the the families turned out to be a tribe of savages. And the business did fix the problem.
$100, besides the martini what else was on the menu? For me $100 would be some really nice sushi.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 03:03 PM (HXcdb)
"The Skin Game"
give it a look if you have the chance.
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It sucks. Seattle just took the lead.
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 03:04 PM (MPjT8)
Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 03:04 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 03:04 PM (qw+yV)
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 06, 2013 03:05 PM (zOP5o)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 03:05 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 03:05 PM (8sCoq)
OK I will break a resolution...my favorite parts: The 'hood' dialog, the 'Stairs' dialog, and the 'Steven' intro dialog. All the other is just filler.
Posted by: sTevo at January 06, 2013 03:05 PM (VMcEw)
Please excise the unnecessary comma between impressed and that.
Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 03:05 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 03:06 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 03:06 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 03:07 PM (pozvt)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 03:07 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 03:07 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 03:08 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Tami at January 06, 2013 03:08 PM (X6akg)
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Something similar happened to me at a sushi restaurant, except that instead of just noise (which is bad enough) the kid threw a ball on our table.
Who gives a child a ball to play with at a restaurant?
Meanwhile, Shanahan's stubborness has killed the Skins season and possibly RGIII's career.
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 03:08 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: TXBill at January 06, 2013 03:08 PM (ChYZ7)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 03:09 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 03:09 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 03:09 PM (MPjT8)
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 06, 2013 03:10 PM (PjE3A)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:03 PM (HXcdb)
Steak the size of my head, nice caesar salad, baked potato also the size of my head and, most importantly, three very very strong martinis.
Not to mention the chocolate cake which they cut into three pieces and boxed up two ahead of time for me.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 03:10 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 03:10 PM (G9qZk)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 03:10 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 03:10 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 03:11 PM (qw+yV)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 03:11 PM (HXcdb)
Shanahan should've brought in Cousins while they had a lead and given the kid a chance to win.
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 03:11 PM (5H6zj)
There went RG3's ligaments and a few knee cartilages.
It's stupid to have had him in there.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 07:10 PM (G9qZk)
Yup. The play before I actually said out loud "what the hell are you doing pull him before he gets hurt."
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 03:11 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 03:12 PM (MPjT8)
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 03:12 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 03:13 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at January 06, 2013 03:13 PM (tlhtD)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 03:13 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 03:13 PM (qw+yV)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 03:14 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 03:14 PM (QupBk)
I live in NW Louisiana, near Shreveport.
I love the people here. The neighbors don't just hand out Halloween candy, many of them take the time to talk to each kid about his or her costume.
We usually get wonderful service at restaurants. In 3 years here, there was one bad waiter.
One time, at Sue's Country Kitchen, the waitress cut up my son's pancakes for him so I could go ahead and get started on my food.
Oh, and parents make their kids behave here, too. I had stopped noticing it until once, on 4th of July, at a touristy place there was a misbehaving child and I realized I couldn't remember the last time I saw that in public.
Apropos nothing, Margaritaville Casino/Resort is opening in June...
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 03:14 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: CraigPoe at January 06, 2013 03:14 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 03:15 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 03:15 PM (W50F+)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:13 PM (8sCoq)
Yup. I'm assuming if the injury was as bad as I assumed it was, then there's no way in hell the medical staff would let him walk off.
I agree about putting Cousins in when they had the lead. He played well when he started. And appears to be playing well now.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 03:16 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: CarolT at January 06, 2013 03:16 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 06, 2013 03:17 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 03:18 PM (QupBk)
As a new former restaurant owner, I feel the pain. It's hard finding help at the min wage level, let alone good help. If you're like me and you didn't want overly pierced, tatted, poorly kempt staff, you've just wiped out about 2/3rds of your potential candidates who are actually experienced. It's just how it is these days - people don't give a shit about their appearance.
And a lot of these poeple aren't going to get the picture if you tip according to service. You're just going to be bad-mouthed after you leave and if you come in again, you'll get shit service again. This is the entitled generation you see? They not only deserve to make an X% tip, they deserve a "living wage" even though their job is low skilled entry level labor and they usually suck at it.
If they are actually good, you'll probably only have them for 6 months if you're luky.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 06, 2013 03:20 PM (IgvLC)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 03:20 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 03:20 PM (0V8v0)
Posted by: MrCaniac at January 06, 2013 03:20 PM (Zd/NW)
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I guess you've never seen RGIII give an interview if you're questioning his intelligence.
The injury was no worse than Doug Williams' knee injury during SB XXII.
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 03:20 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 03:20 PM (qw+yV)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 03:21 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 03:21 PM (Gk3SS)
Hubby and I had a string of horrible service back in Philly and Jersey, back in the day.
The funniest story was this place that had tried to go upscale and failed. Failed so badly that Failed called and said "dude you guys are making me look bad".
One failed idea, of many things that failed:
Hey, if a dessert cart is a good idea, how about a seafood cart?
With. Raw. Seafood.
Sitting on plates. On a cart. For the whole evening.
Only time I can remember seeing people recoil at the sight of food in a restaurant.
And the waiter would hold up each plate and say "this is the shrimp".
The shock of how stupid it was kept me from saying "no shit" to each of 8 or 9 plates.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 03:21 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 03:23 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 06, 2013 03:23 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (0V8v0)
shaddap and make us sandwiches
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 03:23 PM (8sCoq)
Hope your nose ring infection clears up soon.
But, seriously, I think you're full of shit. The comments have been reasonable.
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 03:24 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at January 06, 2013 03:24 PM (53riN)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 03:24 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (0V8v0)
Looks like someone's got a raw nerve.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 06, 2013 03:25 PM (IgvLC)
IIRC it's french for the guy who is currently serving his turn in the ships barrel.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 03:25 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 06, 2013 03:26 PM (mb+Yr)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 03:26 PM (HXcdb)
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Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 03:26 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 03:27 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at January 06, 2013 03:27 PM (tlhtD)
One that we've tried several times is about 20 min away. The food is pretty good (some of it is excellent), but the service is gawd awful. The sad thing is that the problem comes not just from a weak talent pool but mostly from a really heavy-handed manager. He's got the staff so twisted in knots that they're like deer in the headlights. Last time we were there our primary server was like that hysterical chick in Airplane! We wanted to grab him by the shoulders and shake him to snap him out of it.
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 03:27 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 06, 2013 03:28 PM (IgvLC)
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (0V8v0)
Dude, bringing a bottle of Yellow Tail to a table doesn't make you a Sommelier, it makes you a cocktail waitress.
Now bring me a martini.
Posted by: MrCaniac at January 06, 2013 03:28 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 03:28 PM (Gk3SS)
The Bitter Truth About Why Your Coffee Isn't Tasting as Good Lately
http://tinyurl.com/a6eeprj
Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 03:29 PM (wwsoB)
Now that's just hurtful. Why would you call be a "snobby ilk"?
Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 03:29 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 03:29 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 03:29 PM (JxJPF)
Posted by: angienc at January 06, 2013 03:29 PM (Ynbgq)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 03:30 PM (G9qZk)
Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 03:30 PM (obHYs)
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 03:30 PM (0V8v0)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 03:30 PM (MPjT8)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 06, 2013 03:31 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2013 03:31 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 03:32 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 03:33 PM (QupBk)
WASH never scored again- SEA ran off 24 pts
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 03:33 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: ontherocks at January 06, 2013 03:33 PM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 03:33 PM (obHYs)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 03:33 PM (QupBk)
The remake of The Italian Job is a very good movie. The rest of them are Jason Statham in a Jason Statham Action Movie (hi, I'm stealing that). Which I consider a very good thing indeed. Crank 2 is my all time favorite wtf sequel. I mean, there's not even any possible pretense that the plot makes an iota of sense.
I will say, even for someone who has no standards when it comes to Jason Statham movies, In The Name Of The King takes a lot a lot a lot of alcohol to get through.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 03:34 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 03:34 PM (MPjT8)
The one thing that bugs me here is the waiter/ress who decides they're gonna be your new best buddy, coming by every five seconds asking you if the food is great.
It's annoying as hell. Just serve me my food and watch to see if I need more water or another drink. I don't need a new best friend.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 06:21 PM (G9qZk)
I hear you! Waiter/waitress hovers around until he/she can catch you with a mouth full of something that needs chewing. "Is the food OK?" "No, it's shitty. That's why I have my mouth stuffed with it."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2013 03:34 PM (29+x5)
It was the whiney tone. If you speak to me in German I'll assume you are German. So if you speak to me in lib douch I will assume you are lib douche.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 03:35 PM (qo244)
That is when Rifftrax will tackle Plane 9 from Outer Space.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 03:35 PM (HXcdb)
Jason Statham was in Snatch which I consider one of the best films of all-time or at least a film I watch whenever it's on when I'm looking at things that have films showing on them!
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 06, 2013 03:35 PM (zOP5o)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 03:35 PM (QupBk)
Bravo.
Don't forget to tell everyone to try the veal.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 06, 2013 03:36 PM (eHIJJ)
I ran my ass off making sure to do absolutely the best I could despite the non-optimal conditions. The nicest folks I encountered were the ones to whom I gave the poorest service. Family is sitting in the booth. Lady orders liver and onions. I bring it over, and proceed to tip the entire contents into her purse. I was mortified, and told them so. They saw I was hustling and left me a nice tip. Bless you, people, wherever you are.
Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 03:36 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Flying Manatee at January 06, 2013 03:36 PM (YEDer)
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^This.
I've never stiffed a waiter. I think I've left 10% a couple of times.
Husband did at one local Mexican joint (in Orem) where the waitress copped a 'tude when we tried to order beer. They used to have a beer license and beer still appeared on their menu. She gave us really bad service after that, but I think the kicker was when the owners' 8 yr old kid appeared in the dining room "serenading" the patrons with terrible singing and guitar. (This was after their 4 yr old was allowed to play hostess during the seating process.)
Pro-tip to restauranteurs: your restaurant is not your family room and I am not there to humor your kids.
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 03:36 PM (5H6zj)
Yeh, fuck us. Sorry you didn't get that part in "Star Trek, The Musical"
Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 03:37 PM (wwsoB)
I eat out a LOT..... and what I do is be upfront...
Catch the Waiter's eye.... and say "Just to let you know... I pay for the food, but I TIP for the service...."
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 06, 2013 03:37 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 03:38 PM (8sCoq)
Mama AJ, I have a kinda funny story to tell about the one in Biloxi MS that opened early last summer. Their business plan was 'soak the tourists', with no attention paid to locals. Charging $12 for a margarita, no customer loyalty plan, very few comps, etc.
So when summer ran out, so did business. Since then they have replaced the manager, instituted comps and players cards, put in some better odds video poker, and basically apologized to the entire Coast about their formerly shitty attitude.
I still haven't been there. A few friends have, but only once. This has happened before on the Coast, notably when the Beau Rivage and Imperial Palace both first opened. Shitty attitudes about the locals made them both eventually come crawling on hands and knees, begging for local traffic.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 03:39 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 03:39 PM (obHYs)
Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at January 06, 2013 03:39 PM (tlhtD)
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 03:41 PM (w3+gB)
Posted by: Zombie JV Stalin at January 06, 2013 03:41 PM (9wBsM)
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 03:41 PM (3YN0H)
298 Pete Carroll frantically trying to find someone on the Seahawks bench that recognizes him.
Carroll could pull off a pretty decent Andrew Jackson if he lets the hair get longer and gets that wild look in his eye.
Posted by: Jason Newton at January 06, 2013 03:42 PM (z6KMg)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at January 06, 2013 03:42 PM (9wBsM)
I'm sick of...expensive "Italian" restaurants that don't serve Italian food.
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I know, right? I went to some 30 buck-an-entree place Il Trattoria and they didn't even have pizza. Bullshit.
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 03:42 PM (MPjT8)
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 07:41 PM (w3+gB)
That's been kicked around.
Randomly, is there some new federal mandate that Ryan Gosling be in every movie? Don't get me wrong, I like him and all, but it seems like he's in everything lately.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 03:42 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 03:43 PM (QupBk)
Sounds painful. Stiffing the waiter, however, isn't all that bad.
Posted by: Andi Sulli at January 06, 2013 03:43 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 03:43 PM (qo244)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 07:34 PM (MPjT
He's going to go kill a sommelier after the game.
Posted by: MrCaniac at January 06, 2013 03:43 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 03:44 PM (wwsoB)
And by reputable, you clearly mean filled with people who have lots more money than you do, or will ever have. You know, the world is filled with lots of fine folks who can't understand why someone is stupid enough to actually pay someone to open bottles of fermented grape juice.
Stow the attitude, grape boy. Your job isn't that impressive.
Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 03:44 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 03:44 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 03:44 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Jean at January 06, 2013 03:45 PM (IS2o0)
Posted by: DC Zombie at January 06, 2013 03:45 PM (EZ3C3)
Who's being "snobby" now?
Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 03:45 PM (wwsoB)
Yeah, Infernal Affairs is awesome.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 03:46 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 03:46 PM (dmcx3)
Now bring me a martini."
Haha, Yellow Tail? Can't think of one reputable restaurant that would serve that shit.
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:41 PM (3YN0H)
Thus, you are a cocktail waitress.
Scotch, neat.
Posted by: MrCaniac at January 06, 2013 03:46 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:44 PM
I judge the authenticity of an Italian restaurant by the sound level and content coming from yelling in the kitchen. If you can hear family arguments going on in the dining area from there, you're in a place run by genuine Italians.
"Cause fuck you, that's why !!!" is the clincher
Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 03:48 PM (wwsoB)
Maybe not today. I'm not sure if it broke zero!
Grape boy. Heh. How about Cork Dork?
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 03:48 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 03:48 PM (3YN0H)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 03:49 PM (G9qZk)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 03:50 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:44 PM (QupBk)
especially the end where everybody kills each other
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 03:50 PM (8sCoq)
Worst service I've ever encountered? The Jersey Shore.
Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 03:51 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Ends With Prepositions And Fists at January 06, 2013 03:51 PM (I4o0Z)
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Wow! That's wrong on so many levels.
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 03:52 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: John Stark Dark at January 06, 2013 03:52 PM (0JB89)
Posted by: Jean at January 06, 2013 03:52 PM (IS2o0)
Whoa! Well, I'll have to see if I can cajole my husband into trying that sometime.
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 03:53 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 03:53 PM (8sCoq)
Wow, your ignorance is impressive.>>
So sommelier the guy that suggests and brings wine to people that know nothing and wont know if your choice was correct or fetches wine for people that do know wine. Sounds difficult.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 03:54 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Jehu at January 06, 2013 03:55 PM (cSD32)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 03:55 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 03:57 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Tami at January 06, 2013 03:58 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 03:58 PM (qw+yV)
I have had consistently better service in the big franchise family chains then I've had in high priced places. I do think some of that is because I eat alone 90+% of the time and there is an assumption that I'll be a bad tipper. If the food's good, I'll go back and it's amazing how the service improves once the staff recognizes a regular who is a good tipper.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 03:58 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 07:54 PM (qo244)
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When I was still drinking and went to order wine, I'd tell the waiter(ess) to bring me anything that didn't have a screw-on cap. I was really easy to serve.
Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 03:59 PM (0QDQr)
Without me you're eatin off paper plates.
Posted by: Plongeur at January 06, 2013 03:59 PM (2rucj)
Me and my buddies would go to a local place that had 2 for 1 on Tuesdays. There were 5 of us and the place was always packed. People would ask us why the waitress walked by them to serve us. We never told them it was because she got a 10 spot for each round of 10 drinks she delivered. Still a cheap night out compared to full price.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 03:59 PM (qo244)
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 04:01 PM (3YN0H)
347 Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 07:49 PM (G9qZk)
We caught my father-in-law doing the same thing the first time our families met. Luckily my husband knew to to look out for that behavior and corrected it as soon as the f-i-l turned his back to leave. We had a huge table with multiple kids - generally well behaved, but even the well behaved take extra effort. The best part is that we were at a restaurant my dad used to manage, so he tried to stiff some of my dad's best hires.
Posted by: Princess Angelina Contessa Louisa Francesca...III at January 06, 2013 04:01 PM (Y+woW)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 04:01 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 04:01 PM (HXcdb)
And we had to explain to at that time 13 year old Little VIA that there was a serious dress code, and he needed to dress accordingly.
We get to the restaurant, and right there in the lobby is the dress code, on a big sandwich board. And I point to the code, and explain that it was important that we dress properly.
And the manager chimes in with how he denies entry to people ho do not meet the dress code.
And we all set down to eat.
And in comes the people wearing cut offs, and flip flops, and all the other styles that do not meet the dress code.
And they all get seated and served.
Yup, Little VIA learned a lesson that day all right.
Just not the one I wanted him to learn.
Weird thing is, when I emailed corporate about the issue, I never heard a thing back, not even an acknowledgement of the email.
One less restaurant that I need to spend money at.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 06, 2013 04:02 PM (jlngc)
I'm not wealthy or high class. Just polite.
I get confused when there is a plethora of utensils. I stay away from those establishments.
Posted by: Ronster at January 06, 2013 04:03 PM (JgkPs)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 04:04 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Plugs Biden at January 06, 2013 04:04 PM (IS2o0)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 06, 2013 04:04 PM (ehEyA)
Yeah, but spork-only restaurants are hard to find.
Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 04:04 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: harleycowboy at January 06, 2013 04:04 PM (wSTfB)
I get confused when there is a plethora of utensils. I stay away from those establishments.
Posted by: Ronster at January 06, 2013 08:03 PM (JgkPs)
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The spikey looking one is the fork..........
Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 04:05 PM (0QDQr)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at January 06, 2013 04:05 PM (tWFaN)
Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 08:04 PM (6TB1Z)
Go to any Obama fundraiser.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 06, 2013 04:05 PM (ehEyA)
Just work your way towards the plate.
Posted by: Buzzsaw (raised by Mrs Manners) at January 06, 2013 04:06 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 04:06 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 07:59 PM (qo244)
There was a local place that Boy BFF and I used to stop at all the time. It got to the point that we'd walk in and whoever was driving would hold up the car keys and the appropriate drink order would be waiting at our table before we even got there. We were walking past someone bitching about us getting a table on a busy Saturday night and Boy BFF turned around and said "Come here twice a week and tip 25% and you'd be amazed what happens."
Just caught the beginning of the miniseries that was the premiere for the new BSG. What a pity that never lasted beyond two seasons. *slaps hands over ears* lalalalalalalalala I can't hear you lalalalalalalalalalala
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 04:07 PM (Gk3SS)
Sometimes you have to push your way through a lot of utensils to get there.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 06, 2013 04:07 PM (ehEyA)
Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 04:08 PM (1CULz)
Posted by: Jehu at January 06, 2013 04:08 PM (cSD32)
>>Mama AJ, I have a kinda funny story to tell about the one in Biloxi MS that opened early last summer. Their business plan was 'soak the tourists', with no attention paid to locals.
Oh, good grief. There aren't that many tourists here, so I hope they aren't that stupid.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 04:08 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Ronster at January 06, 2013 04:08 PM (JgkPs)
I would agree that it looks bad on us when others aren't properly doing their jobs. Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 08:01 PM
Amazing experience? That insists upon itself, doesn't it
Let's see, I remember my first date, my first fuck, my graduation, my first car, my wedding, but most of all who I was with when I dined at "Che La Douche"
Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 04:09 PM (wwsoB)
>>When I was bar tending, the thing that absolutely surprised me the most
were the wives(girlfriends?) that would wait till their husband started
walking toward the door then quickly scoop the tip off the table and
dump it in their purse.
Wow. That blows my mind.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 04:10 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Buzzsaw (raised by Mrs Manners) at January 06, 2013 04:11 PM (qo244)
You pretentious bastard. You'll take that back if you know what's good for you.
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 04:12 PM (w3+gB)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 04:12 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Jehu at January 06, 2013 04:12 PM (cSD32)
You know I think we need to dump CBD as a Open-blogger,
He is just way to responsive to the hoard on his threads. I mean c'mon, where's the distant aloofness I've come to expect from the HQ
.
I can't speak to any of this post BTW, I have good service, I have crappy service, I have good food, I have crappy food.
Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 04:12 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Buzzsaw (raised by Mrs Manners) at January 06, 2013 08:11 PM (qo244)
I normally put them in my purse for gifting.
Posted by: Rose Goldberg at January 06, 2013 04:13 PM (ndqJC)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 04:13 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Buzzsaw (raised by Mrs Manners) at January 06, 2013 08:11 PM (qo244)
I do criss cross across the plate but, yes, that's what I was taught to signal that you're done.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 04:13 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 04:13 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 04:14 PM (Khu8a)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 04:14 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at January 06, 2013 04:14 PM (tlhtD)
Posted by: Jehu at January 06, 2013 04:15 PM (cSD32)
>>Margaritaville in Biloxi. Never been there and parents refuse to go back so I take that as a bad sign.
But this new one will be perfect and we'll have a moron meet up right down the road from me.
Posted by: Mama AJ, in a place better than at January 06, 2013 04:16 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Mama AJ, in a place better than East Saint Louis at January 06, 2013 04:16 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Jehu at January 06, 2013 04:17 PM (cSD32)
Yeah the custom is likely regional. But I have run into very few people where I live that were berated properly.
"It's a fork not a shovel you little piggy".
Posted by: Buzzsaw (raised by Mrs Manners) at January 06, 2013 04:17 PM (qo244)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 06, 2013 04:18 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 04:19 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: DC in Towson at January 06, 2013 04:19 PM (Ai+tZ)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 06, 2013 08:18 PM (hO8IJ)
Stabbing?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 04:19 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Bill H at January 06, 2013 04:20 PM (3sZO1)
Near topic...
At a soccer game last year, a kid (9-12 ish) whined to his dad that he needed his water bottle.
Dad said, in a voice that carried, "Son, this ain't Chang's Chinese and I don't deliver. You come get your water bottle."
I love this place.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 04:20 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 04:20 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 04:21 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Clemenza at January 06, 2013 04:23 PM (x59Gv)
Anna, both are under new owners now. Yes, I've eaten at every restaurant/buffet at each of them and was generally satisfied. For pricier stuff like steaks, I much prefer Carter's Steakhouse in Gulfport's Island View as their pricing is much better and actually includes salad and side dishes.
Service is generally good at all the Coast restaurants imho; it's a Southern thang dontcha know.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 04:23 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at January 06, 2013 04:23 PM (F3nFt)
Posted by: Clemenza at January 06, 2013 04:25 PM (x59Gv)
Posted by: Jehu at January 06, 2013 04:26 PM (cSD32)
>>it's a Southern thang dontcha know.
Amen.
I love going to McDonald's and having the drive thru get my order perfect 99 times out of 100 and having the teenagers call me ma'am and tell me to have a wonderful day.
I think my husband is starting to realize it's going to be damn near impossible to get me out of the South when he retires. (retires from the miltary, not retires-retires)
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 04:28 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 06, 2013 04:28 PM (vUK/h)
The FU Buffet.
http://tinyurl.com/bes3edx
Link only added to prove I'm not making it up
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 04:29 PM (qo244)
Man oh man, I miss Jack in the Box, Carl's Jr., Inn n Out, Fatburgers. And the Sommeliers never gave me an attitude.
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 04:32 PM (w3+gB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 04:33 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Fresh at January 06, 2013 04:34 PM (O7ksG)
Posted by: Clemenza at January 06, 2013 08:25 PM (x59Gv)
Cripes, Clinton will put his dick into anything.
Posted by: MrCaniac at January 06, 2013 04:34 PM (Zd/NW)
He is just way to responsive to the hoard on his threads. I mean c'mon, where's the distant aloofness I've come to expect from the HQ .
Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 08:12 PM
I assume that you somehow miss DrewM's threads
Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 04:34 PM (wwsoB)
"Me love you long time Me so horny"
http://tinyurl.com/aa38fqb
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 04:36 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 08:32 PM
Did you ever stop at the Carl's Jr at San Fernando and Los Feliz in Glendale? They closed it, but before they did the staff would take forever to bring your food even when the place was empty, and then there was the appetizing experience of having your arms stick to the table.
Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 04:37 PM (wwsoB)
No, I do not act like a jaded stuckup jackass. I'm humble and very gracious towards our customers. I take great pride in making sure our guests leave with an amazing experience.
I would agree that it looks bad on us when others aren't properly doing their jobs.
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 08:01 PM (3YN0H)
A Juiceboxer bring bottles of juice to people.
Do you recommend the Capri Sun or the Juicy Juice?
Posted by: MrCaniac at January 06, 2013 04:38 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's bikini line holding back the gray curlies at January 06, 2013 04:39 PM (jfSqj)
No, if I wanted that experience I'd go to King Taco. Best tacos for the money you didn't have to make yourself.
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 04:40 PM (w3+gB)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's bikini line holding back the gray curlies at January 06, 2013 04:40 PM (jfSqj)
>>When I was bar tending, the thing that absolutely surprised me the most were the wives(girlfriends?) that would wait till their husband started walking toward the door then quickly scoop the tip off the table and dump it in their purse.
I had a gal I'd just met scoop up my change (ca. $15), after spending the evening talking about how little money she had.
Adios, sister. And thanks for the warning.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 04:40 PM (DXlwL)
Always called it "Crap in a Box" when I lived in L.A.
Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 04:41 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, it's no longer Christmas at January 06, 2013 04:41 PM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Moron Labe! at January 06, 2013 04:42 PM (ZfBzk)
White Castle was experimenting with offering beer and wine in some Indiana stores. Don't know how that turned out...nothing pairs well with food that smells like cat vomit.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 06, 2013 04:42 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 04:43 PM (obHYs)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 04:43 PM (DXlwL)
Posted by: Moron Labe! at January 06, 2013 04:44 PM (ZfBzk)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's bikini line holding back the gray curlies at January 06, 2013 04:45 PM (jfSqj)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 06, 2013 08:42 PM
Perhaps they figure if you get drunk enough you won't even taste the ratburgers.
BTW, belated Happy Birthday to you
Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 04:45 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 04:46 PM (obHYs)
Within a few points of error; 1/3 of people tip well - regardless of service, 1/3 tip poorly, regardless of service, and 1/3 base their tip on their service.
Some servers will bust their ass for all customers, but some realize it's easier to be lazy when it doesn't effect 2/3rds of your tips.
Posted by: Icedog at January 06, 2013 04:46 PM (PTS+l)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 04:47 PM (MPjT8)
The town will never be the same. After the Tangiers, the big corporations took it all over. Today it looks like Disneyland. And while the kids play cardboard pirates, Mommy and Daddy drop the house payments and Junior's college money on the poker slots. In the old days, dealers knew your name, what you drank, what you played. Today, it's like checkin' into an airport. And if you order room service, you're lucky if you get it by Thursday. Today, it's all gone. You get a whale show up with four million in a suitcase, and some twenty-five-year-old hotel school kid is gonna want his Social Security Number.
Posted by: Ace Rothstein at January 06, 2013 04:47 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (0V8v0)
Ahhaahh!
one of those wine sniffing snobby little pricks. Check.
Posted by: exsanguine at January 06, 2013 04:48 PM (O/2PH)
Got chided by a coworker once for leaving a 15% tip (at a ski resort with overpriced food). Curious what is considered fair for standard service.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 06, 2013 04:49 PM (7um7O)
458White Castle was experimenting with offering beer
and wine in some Indiana stores.
Upper management figured that if you had to get drunk in order to eat them, might as well get snokered at their store!
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 04:49 PM (b1VIZ)
Posted by: Jehu at January 06, 2013 04:50 PM (cSD32)
White Castle was experimenting with offering beer and wine in some Indiana stores. Don't know how that turned out...nothing pairs well with food that smells like cat vomit.
If it doesn't smell like food, you're not drunk enough for White Castle. Seems like a smart business plan to try to help those customers who were not in-the-know enough to tank up before entering the place.
Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 04:50 PM (2IW5Q)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, it's no longer Christmas at January 06, 2013 04:51 PM (GVxQo)
DrewM has a habit of posting while I'm at work and thus I don't get to read many of his comments 
.
(Also I'm not sure I would call that "engaging" the horde.)
Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 04:51 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 04:52 PM (HXcdb)
I remember eating at some swanky place in Chicago about ten years ago, a place with a different guy for your salad, salt and pepper, wine, etc. That's the one thing I noticed, to these people it wasn't just a job but a career. Don't think a one of them was under thirty. Of course the bill for the two of us pretty much shot a hundred dollar bill.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 06, 2013 04:52 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 06, 2013 04:53 PM (iHs4Z)
Posted by: Adlib421 at January 06, 2013 04:55 PM (tGEIz)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 04:56 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 06, 2013 08:49 PM (7um7O)
I've always felt 15% is standard, for exceptional service 20%. Sometimes if I'm sufficiently tanked and service was really good (hence the tanked part) I'll make up a number that's higher. But I think only once I've hit 25% (and that was an exception where we had great service and the waitress helped us with my wife's disabled mom.)
Bar service gets treated a bit differently. It's usually $1/beer at the brewpubs I hit up.
When I go out with my Liberal leaning friends they balk at anything less than 20% regardless of service. I think they once got as high as a 30% tip. Once I had miserable service I wrote down $0.01 for tip and the libs actually put in the difference. (Seriously.)
(My Blue Dog friend once joined me in writing $0.01 after a miserable meal at a resturant near the Seattle Convention center, where the food took forever to come, we had to send my wife's back and the waitress didn't even know the beer list...at a place called the "TapHouse." The manager was inconsiderate, so we wrote a note to telling him we were pissed.)
Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 04:56 PM (GaqMa)
Got chided by a coworker once for leaving a 15% tip (at a ski resort with overpriced food). Curious what is considered fair for standard service.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 06, 2013 08:49 PM (7um7O)
Tell your coworker to go fuck him/herself. Problem solved. 15% is perfectly reasonable.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 04:57 PM (DXlwL)
White Castle was experimenting with offering beer and wine in some Indiana stores. Don't know how that turned out...nothing pairs well with food that smells like cat vomit.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 06, 2013 08:42 PM (hO8IJ)
Would you like some Ernest and Julio Gallo Red with you "Little Friskies' Repeat"?
Posted by: LivingFreeDaSommelier at January 06, 2013 04:59 PM (Zd/NW)
Do you recommend the Capri Sun or the Juicy Juice?
Posted by: MrCaniac at January 06, 2013 08:38 PM (Zd/NW)
Very nice!! Back to "lurkerville" I go. Enjoy the rest of your weekend Horde!!
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 04:59 PM (3YN0H)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, it's no longer Christmas at January 06, 2013 05:00 PM (GVxQo)
I'm Advanced Level 3: Court Of Master Sommeliers. Pile on with more snark!!
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 05:02 PM (3YN0H)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:57 PM (DXlwL)
The one good thing Europe has is a decent idea of tipping. In parts of Spain at least it's more or less an insult to the owner (claiming you don't pay the wait staff enough.)
5% might be acceptable for really good service. But they have an idea of a professional waitstaff (not just college drop outs passing the time.)
There are exceptions (Baristas in places like the train station, where getting your coffee quickly matters.)
Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 05:02 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 05:02 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Amazing Ampersands at January 06, 2013 05:03 PM (mbxHg)
Okay, now I feel a little bad. Sorry, guy, sometimes we're a bit rough on noobs around here.
Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 05:03 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2013 05:03 PM (BzGtc)
Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 05:04 PM (obHYs)
Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 05:04 PM (obHYs)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 05:05 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 05:05 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 05:05 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 05:05 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 05:05 PM (MPjT8)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 05:05 PM (MPjT8)
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 09:02 PM
I'm advanced level 5 on "Call Of Duty", so THERE !!!
Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 05:05 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 09:02 PM
I'm advanced level 5 on "Call Of Duty", so THERE !!!
Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 05:05 PM (wwsoB)
Does that mean you have the Champagne cutlass?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 05:05 PM (qo244)
Does that mean you have the Champagne cutlass?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 05:05 PM (qo244)
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 09:02 PM
I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night!
Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 05:06 PM (wwsoB)
Wow, you sat through a dozen night classes and took a test. Let the worshiping begin.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 06, 2013 05:07 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 09:05 PM
I had an Olds Cutlass once
Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at January 06, 2013 05:08 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 06, 2013 05:08 PM (jucos)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 05:08 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 06, 2013 05:08 PM (iHs4Z)
I'm Advanced Level 3: Court Of Master Sommeliers. Pile on with more snark!
I drive out to the oldest appellation zone in the US on a regular basis and chat with the wine makers.
What's you point?
(Also, I'd be curious if you can name it. Most people can't. Hint: It's not Napa.)
Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 05:08 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's bikini line holding back the gray curlies at January 06, 2013 05:09 PM (jfSqj)
494I'm Advanced Level 3: Court Of Master Sommeliers. Pile on with more snark!!>>
I'm a home vitner. Ye shall carry my wine!
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 05:09 PM (b1VIZ)
Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2013 05:10 PM (BzGtc)
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 05:10 PM (w3+gB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 05:10 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, it's no longer Christmas at January 06, 2013 05:10 PM (GVxQo)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 05:10 PM (QupBk)
Was the paint color Champagne? If it was I think it makes you a sommelier.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 05:10 PM (qo244)
But snobs? THAT, we ain't.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 05:11 PM (4Mv1T)
I do. I don't think they make it past Atlanta but if by a miracle they do, no way they get by San Fran or Green Bay.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 06, 2013 05:11 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 05:12 PM (MPjT8)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 05:12 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: CraigPoe at January 06, 2013 05:12 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2013 05:12 PM (BzGtc)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 05:13 PM (G9qZk)
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 09:10 PM (w3+gB)
There are maybe a few Ports (or Port style) wines I'd pay that much for, but that's unlikely.
Given that I'm a fan of sweeter wines, I usually can find something for less than $15 bucks I like. (thank you Missouri Tradition for granting me that gift of taste)
And when I'm tired of the local the Spanish Rioja imports run like $12 and are consistantly good IMHO.
Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 05:13 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 05:14 PM (w3+gB)
Was the paint color Champagne? If it was I think it makes you a sommelier. Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 09:10 PM
I think they called the color "sea foam"
Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at January 06, 2013 05:14 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 06, 2013 08:53 PM (iHs4Z)
Probably those worthless Quebecers and sleazy Ontarians. Being B.C. born and bred, and an Albertan by choice, I normally tip 15%, and will tip better if the service warrants it. And if the service is really lousy, I'll tip less or not at all. But rarely.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2013 05:14 PM (29+x5)
Posted by: Ronster at January 06, 2013 05:14 PM (JgkPs)
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 09:14 PM
Shit, for $400 American you can get an 18 year old call girl
Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 05:15 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Mindy doesn't have much to contribute to the conversation at January 06, 2013 05:15 PM (3pGXY)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 05:15 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 05:16 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 05:17 PM (qo244)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, it's no longer Christmas at January 06, 2013 05:17 PM (GVxQo)
Posted by: owlpellets at January 06, 2013 05:17 PM (dmEoV)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 05:17 PM (QupBk)
I'm Advanced Level 3: Court Of Master Sommeliers. Pile on with more snark!!
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 09:02 PM (3YN0H)
I'm still waiting on my martini and scotch. Now run along little fellow and get my drinks.
You are a wine waiter, period. There is no difference between you and a cocktail waitress, except that the cocktail waitress brings my drinks without any attitude and doesn't mind me pinching her ass.
There would be no sommeliers, but some owner or manager got snookered by the wine distributor to buy some overpriced grape juice. Panic sets in, owner/manager hires some hipster douche to be the establishment's "sommelier", then said sommelier goes out and tries to sell the overpriced shit to customers who eat that kind of shit up.
Do you recommend the Capri Sun or the Juicy Juice?
Posted by: MrCaniac, getting impatient at January 06, 2013 05:17 PM (Zd/NW)
Pet Peeve: Waitresses who say "you guys". Way too familiar. What ever happened to "ma'am" and "sir". Or "evening, folks."
Posted by: ALH at January 06, 2013 05:18 PM (eqV3Q)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 05:18 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Cato, gas clerk from Hell at January 06, 2013 05:19 PM (xFGqN)
Posted by: ALH at January 06, 2013 09:18 PM (eqV3Q)
That last time that happened to me, the waitress also brought out our standard appetizer and wine order when she came over.
The wife and I were so embarassed we actually never went back! (The worst part was, we didn't go there all to often, but it was like 3 weeks in a row and we got the same waitress all three weeks, and basically ordered the same thing.)
Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 05:19 PM (GaqMa)
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Posted by: John the Libertarian at January 06, 2013 05:21 PM (X5Zkj)
Posted by: owlpellets at January 06, 2013 05:22 PM (dmEoV)
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Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 05:23 PM (qw+yV)
Waitress service was reasonably good. The host opened the front door for us as we approached. I thought that was nice.
Posted by: Mindy doesn't have much to contribute to the conversation at January 06, 2013 09:15 PM (3pGXY)
Did the sommelier recommend the White Peach Sangria?
Posted by: MrCaniac, at January 06, 2013 05:23 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: owlpellets at January 06, 2013 09:22 PM
I wiped at booth in Reno, just to watch them die
Posted by: Olive Garden waitress at January 06, 2013 05:23 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Cato, gas clerk from Hell at January 06, 2013 09:19 PM (xFGqN)
There's an implication here that none of us have ever worked service.
I spent 5 years at a McD's and I know serveral others of the horde have done everything from tend bard to pickup garbage.
We recognize that all that, but we also know that sometimes you gotta soldier on. I got a friend who works at Bed Bath and Beyond, he doesn't want to be there, but it pays the bills. He puts on a happy face and tries not to scream at the old ladies. It's just what you do. Yeah we all have an off day, but usually that's when it's time for a manager to step in and say "Ok, great, time for you to go work in the back." (Been there, done that, learned my lesson.)
Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 05:24 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Cato, gas clerk from Hell at January 06, 2013 09:19 PM (xFGqN)
EXACTLY. It's amazing the abuse you take with a smile on your face. People come into restaurants on power trips.
Posted by: John the Libertarian at January 06, 2013 05:24 PM (X5Zkj)
http://tinyurl.com/bfpt2t4
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 05:24 PM (qo244)
Posted by: owlpellets at January 06, 2013 05:25 PM (dmEoV)
That was good stuff. I hear you, and I sympathize. Anyone dealing with the general public is in an acting job, whether they know it or not. It is fair for a reasonable customer to not expect to be punished because some other customer was just a douche. It is human nature to get angry when dealing with douches. It falls to people who have to deal with the public to make that transition, from dealing with the douchy to dealing with well-brought-up human beings, gracefully and invisibly. Not easy. But it seems undeniable that it is part of what the job requires. That's where the acting comes in.
Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 05:25 PM (2IW5Q)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 05:25 PM (MPjT8)
Posted by: John the Libertarian at January 06, 2013 09:21 PM (X5Zkj)
Dollars to donuts, the ones that "don't believe in tipping" are leftists.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2013 05:25 PM (29+x5)
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 05:25 PM (qw+yV)
Posted by: Mister Christopher at January 06, 2013 05:26 PM (DQhAB)
Posted by: Justamom at January 06, 2013 05:27 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 05:27 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: © Sponge at January 06, 2013 05:28 PM (sw9Vn)
Posted by: Mindy doesn't have much to contribute to the conversation at January 06, 2013 05:28 PM (3pGXY)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 05:28 PM (qo244)
Part of me wants to know, and another part definitely doesn't want to know. I think the part that doesn't want to know is smarter.
Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 05:28 PM (2IW5Q)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 05:29 PM (QupBk)
And ironically, many waiters are aspiring actors, yet they lack the chops, or more accurately, the interest, to pull it off. I'll pay you if the service is good, but many people waiting tables seem to think they're too good for the job. If so, I have a way to express my displeasure.
Like I said earlier, I've done the job, and I have no patience for those who don't want to hustle.
Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 05:29 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 06, 2013 05:30 PM (xKC/c)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 05:31 PM (b1VIZ)
And finally, on to self-employment. I never get mad at the guy who makes all the mistakes anymore, 'cause it's usually me.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 05:31 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 05:32 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Amazing Ampersands at January 06, 2013 05:32 PM (mbxHg)
Or maybe your cashier just rang up a food stamp order for more than he'll bring home today and is wondering why he still bothers. Something to think about, anyway.
This.pisses.me.off. Standing in the checkout line at the grocery store behind someone purchasing steaks and perrier with an ebt card. Usually female with an expensive manicure.
Posted by: ALH at January 06, 2013 05:33 PM (eqV3Q)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 05:34 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Tango United at January 06, 2013 05:34 PM (7h71Q)
Posted by: Cato at January 06, 2013 05:35 PM (xFGqN)
Posted by: sTevo at January 06, 2013 05:35 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 05:36 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: CarolT at January 06, 2013 05:37 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 05:37 PM (QupBk)
I dunno. New York City, and I assume you're talking about the City, has its own way of looking at things, and if you haven't grokked it, it can look perverse. I'm not trying to feed you a shit sandwich or anything, but the City can be pretty lovable. The rudeness is just how they do business, they don't mean anything by it. In a way, it's an expression of a freedom ideology: you take care of your crap, I take care of mine, and so on. Adjust to that, and it turns out that New Yorkers are actually pretty friendly. Certainly compared to people in California, where I now live.
As so often, a cartoonist expressed it best. A Callahan comic about "The difference between New York and LA" has two panels. In the first, a New Yorker is saying "Fuck You!" and thinking "Have a nice day". In the second, a Los Angelite is saying "Have a nice day" and thinking "Fuck You!"
The time I've spent in both places has convinced me that this is much more truth than joke.
Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 05:38 PM (2IW5Q)
Posted by: Justamom at January 06, 2013 05:39 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Cato at January 06, 2013 05:39 PM (xFGqN)
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Posted by: sTevo at January 06, 2013 05:42 PM (VMcEw)
I just got an email announcing that a Brew Pub opened in my town tonight. Like three blocks from my house. I had no idea.
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Suh-weet.
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 05:43 PM (MPjT8)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:40 PM (QupBk)
I would be divorced in less than a year. Best walk....ever try to ride a bike home from a brew pub?
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 05:43 PM (b1VIZ)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 05:44 PM (QupBk)
Self-employment is not for everyone, but everyone should think about, where possible. I've placed engineers into manufacturing companies as a headhunter for nearly 25 years and I see that there is nearly no such thing as a "career" anymore. 3-5 years for the individual contributors. Maybe 18mos to 3 years for the mangers/directors/executives (all the guys with bull's-eyes on their backs)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 05:44 PM (4Mv1T)
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Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 05:45 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Ronster at January 06, 2013 05:45 PM (JgkPs)
I almost always tip 20% or more. If the service is bad I usually just don't go back to that restaurant. Sometimes I give the place a second chance if the food is really good and I think they're just having an off night. I also never send food back to the kitchen.
Posted by: not the mama at January 06, 2013 05:45 PM (kzCIn)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 05:46 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 05:48 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 05:48 PM (b1VIZ)
Posted by: Cato at January 06, 2013 05:49 PM (xFGqN)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 05:49 PM (QupBk)
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Oh.... as an avid archer myself....
thats teh hawt.....
Posted by: fixeruper at January 06, 2013 05:49 PM (9MmIU)
If she keeps her drawstring away from sensitive areas, okay. Otherwise, ouch!!!!
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 05:50 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: sTevo at January 06, 2013 05:51 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 05:52 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 05:52 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 05:52 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 05:53 PM (QupBk)
Good point. I shot some arrows in camp as a yout, and every now and then one would go all weird and everything would snap and vibrate and the arrow would sort of bail to one side or another. Presumably topless chick archers know how to not make that happen.
Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 05:53 PM (2IW5Q)
Embarrassing. The Entitlement Generation is ruining it for everyone.
Posted by: © Sponge at January 06, 2013 05:54 PM (sw9Vn)
"Oh, the waiters are unique in their own waysÂ…with a fascinating collection of tattoos, piercings, odd haircuts, ripped shirts, pants around their thighs, pendulous breasts untethered by anything so pedestrian as a bra, ultra-cool facial hair......."
But these are the things that give young people a sense of individuality, just like the rest of their hideously tatted and pierced annoying as fuck hipster generation.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at January 06, 2013 05:55 PM (8cOY0)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 05:55 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 05:55 PM (GEICT)
Yep. I'm a Sr. Network Engineer. That means I'm not *supposed* to work on end user issues unless it gets escalated through 3 tiers of support to get to me. Yet, once word got out that I fix shit on a regular basis, I get at least 3-4 direct calls a day for help. I actually love helping people, but these folks don't realize that I have projects I'm accountable for as well and I can't get them done if I'm helping them figure out that their mouse doesn't work and they need a new one.....
Posted by: DanInMN at January 06, 2013 05:56 PM (khf9A)
Posted by: Kevin at January 06, 2013 05:56 PM (0K4Xj)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 05:57 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 05:59 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 06:00 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 06:00 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:00 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 06:01 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 10:00 PM (QupBk)
Sit at the bar and the bartender won't know what your wearing.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 06:01 PM (b1VIZ)
I'm 110% sure that CBD is keeping others from putting up a new post so he can brag about how many comments he got on his thread.
Posted by: Mama AJ, trouble maker at January 06, 2013 06:02 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:02 PM (HXcdb)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 06:06 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: CarolT at January 06, 2013 06:06 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: CarolT at January 06, 2013 06:10 PM (z4WKX)
>> like being away from people at work, and reading my email and the site while I wait and eat.
Reminds me of my mom getting a car with a sunroof so she could eat lunch in the car with light coming in!
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 06:10 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 06:11 PM (GEICT)
My first job was in fast food and then through college as a waitress in nice joints and some bad ones,
This experience should be a good learning lesson on how to be a good customer/ I tip minimum 20% even if they are having a bad night. This is along they keep a good attitude and are attentive. don't blame thr waiter/ess for the fuckups in the kitchen
Posted by: Cheri at January 06, 2013 06:11 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 06:11 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2013 06:17 PM (29+x5)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 09:32 PM (HXcdb
Another techie. What company?
Posted by: MidwesterbSceptic at January 06, 2013 06:27 PM (cxl8k)
well, have not seen this posted
here in the south ( from the servers side)
working the sunday lunch crowd, after church....WORST tippers ever
even seen some folks leave bible tracts as a tip
Posted by: rain of lead at January 06, 2013 06:32 PM (uY3gJ)
Posted by: Caustic at January 06, 2013 06:54 PM (/b8+5)
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Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 06, 2013 08:07 PM (RXQ2T)
Posted by: Bill H at January 06, 2013 08:14 PM (3sZO1)
There's a place that has great food, but all of their staff looks like some Occupy Wall Street protest. I'm not some old timer, but it's just not appetizing to see people tatted up, pierced, and dreadlocked while you eat.
Also, I'm in the camp that most waiters are a lazy, entitled bunch that are ridiculously overpaid. I want to puke whenever I hear someone make a case that the deserve a big tip because they work so hard.
Posted by: McAdams at January 07, 2013 07:25 AM (424lA)
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