March 14, 2014

Good News...Senate Reaches Deal To Extend Unemployment Benefits
— DrewM

Not just any deal mind you. No it's the best kind of deal...a bi-partisan one.

Two leaders of the negotiations —Sens. Jack Reed, D-R.I., and Dean Heller, R-Nev. — said in a statement that the deal would be retroactive to Dec. 28, when the emergency benefits program expired.

"We're not at the finish line yet, but this is a bipartisan breakthrough," Reed said.

Heller expressed satisfaction that "Democrats and Republicans have come together on a proposal that will finally give Americans certainty about their unemployment benefits."

...

Lawmakers said the proposal was fully paid for, with the bulk of the money raised by extending some customs fees through 2024 and changing how some companies set aside money for pensions, in effect increasing their taxes. More federal revenue would be raised by letting some companies make earlier payments to the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp., which guarantees workers' pensions.

"Retroactive"? So people will be getting checks to cover the last 2/5 months? Ok.

And the deal is for 5 months so....we'll be back here in August doing it again. Just in time for the start of the campaign season and another round of "Republicans hate the unemployed".

Of course that's if the House passes this. And that's the rub. Because five idiot Republicans can't stay on script the House will now be pressured "to do something".

Prediction...after weeks of wrangling and MSM hits on the the House GOP for being big meanies, Boehner will bring this bill to the floor and let it pass with Democrats and a handful of liberal Repubicans.

Maybe we should just cut to the chase this time.

Here are the Republican sellouts.


Ever notice the Democrats never have any problem finding Republicans who will sellout to help them? Even when the Democrats have 59 votes and the GOP is down to a rump caucus they can find a few turncoats. Hell, even when the GOP has a majority the Democrats can find allies across the aisle that will stymie the Republican message.

But yeah...go Team GOP. Yay! Or something.

Maybe if there were some evidence that endless unemployment benefits hurt people in the long run these idiots would do the right thing. If only. Oh wait.

Posted by: DrewM at 06:31 AM | Comments (308)
Post contains 412 words, total size 3 kb.

1 Hey, those votes don't buy themselves.

Posted by: Erowmero at March 14, 2014 06:33 AM (1gcFZ)

2 In before the apologists start whining about Drew attacking the gutless fucks in the GOP.

Posted by: buzzion at March 14, 2014 06:34 AM (LI48c)

3 Bipartisen, re all Dems and 5 RINOs.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 14, 2014 06:34 AM (T2V/1)

4 Portman's son must be out of work because he "evolves" by talking with him.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2014 06:34 AM (YvXkB)

5 It's just what has been said time and time again, there is not a opposition party, just the loyal opposition.

Posted by: dantealiegri at March 14, 2014 06:35 AM (EQ7xf)

6 Gee, why am I not at all surprised to see Collins and Murkowski   among the turncoats.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 06:36 AM (4df7R)

7 It has been repeatedly shown that extending UE benefits extends unemployment.  Why go to work if you can get paid for sitting at home?  Especially if you are in a State that has high payments.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 14, 2014 06:36 AM (T2V/1)

8 I'm trying to remember the last time the word "bipartisan" was used to describe something that was actually good for the country.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 14, 2014 06:36 AM (QFxY5)

9 5 It's just what has been said time and time again, there is not a opposition party, just the loyal opposition. I look at the GOPe as The Washington Generals of politics. Losing on purpose and gettin' paid. But mostly gettin' paid.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 14, 2014 06:36 AM (7ObY1)

10 let it burn

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at March 14, 2014 06:38 AM (u8GsB)

11 Retroactive unemployment but they can't find the funds to sustain the Military Commissary system? And Republicans remain silent

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 14, 2014 06:38 AM (t3UFN)

12 From what I can see of Portman, he's just eager to get votes by looking like he's doing the "right" thing. The thing that "helps" people. Typical leftist stuff.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at March 14, 2014 06:39 AM (yE8uc)

13 Palin needs Murkowski's job.

Posted by: Beagle at March 14, 2014 06:39 AM (sOtz/)

14 Yay! My beautiful cousin, only in her early twenties, had gone completely deaf over the past year. She's always been mostly deaf. She got a double-cochlear implant (like Rush Limbaugh's) and we just got word that she can hear again! Better than she ever did before, too. So happy for her.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 14, 2014 06:39 AM (7ObY1)

15 That's not fair, we won once.

Posted by: Washington Generals at March 14, 2014 06:39 AM (Aif/5)

16 Heller expressed satisfaction that "Democrats and Republicans have come together on a proposal that will finally give Americans certainty about their unemployment benefits." Stop and thing about that one for a minute folks.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 14, 2014 06:40 AM (659DL)

17 Wouldn't it be easier to just make unemployment benefits permanent?  FFS, we're practically at that point now!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2014 06:40 AM (zF6Iw)

18 14 Yay! My beautiful cousin, only in her early twenties, had gone completely deaf over the past year. She's always been mostly deaf. She got a double-cochlear implant (like Rush Limbaugh's) and we just got word that she can hear again! Better than she ever did before, too. So happy for her. Posted by: Citizen X at March 14, 2014 10:39 AM (7ObY1) fantastic!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at March 14, 2014 06:40 AM (u8GsB)

19
She got a double-cochlear implant (like Rush Limbaugh's) and we just got word that she can hear again! Better than she ever did before, too.


So happy for her.


Posted by: Citizen X at March 14, 2014 10:39 AM (7ObY1)



That's awesome, Citizen X!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 06:40 AM (4df7R)

20 I'm one of those unemployed and have not received a dime in two months.  Believe me when I say that not all unemployed people are moochers.  I need those benefits for now.  I got laid off from my job in sales.  Please understand that there are fellow conservatives that need help from time to time.  I hope they resolve this TODAY!

Posted by: Tami at March 14, 2014 06:40 AM (8bixK)

21 How about the government stop buttfucking the private sector with taxes, regulations, and Obamacare, then maybe people would be able to, I don't know, get jobs!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 14, 2014 06:40 AM (DrWcr)

22 Boehner will bring this bill to the floor and let it pass with Democrats and a handful of liberal Repubicans Boehner and the moderates are increasingly caucusing with the Democrats. I think the GOP may split soon. The moderates who boogie man about the Dem threat are forever cozying up with them. Most of them support the Dem if they lose the primary.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 14, 2014 06:40 AM (yU1Dt)

23 Oh yeah, keep crushing the Tea Party and enabling the Democrat's agenda.
#WINNING

Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2014 06:41 AM (aq/zi)

24 I blame Boehner.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 06:41 AM (IXrOn)

25

How is a 5 month extension considered "certainty" ?

I guess if you compare to Obamacare which changes every week, it is relatively certain

 

 

 

 

 

Posted by: McCool at March 14, 2014 06:42 AM (nCSwS)

26 I'll just wave a Kentucky Rifle around on stage and you rubes will forget all about this.

Posted by: Ole Mitch at March 14, 2014 06:42 AM (Fu1Vx)

27 Just ask the GOP "leadership" the problem is the Teaparty, not good repubs like McLameass. Fucking renoB, I hate that bastard.

Posted by: maddogg at March 14, 2014 06:42 AM (xWW96)

28 2Posted by: buzzion at March 14, 2014 10:34 AM (LI48c) It's that not all gutless fucks are the same. Drew has a little trouble differentiating between a Collins and a McConnell. Some of us can tell the difference.

Posted by: JJ Stone at March 14, 2014 06:42 AM (sACCt)

29 and some idjuts still think the Republican's are going to win in November.

Posted by: Racist Opposittion Party at March 14, 2014 06:43 AM (Cs2tJ)

30 I'm conflicted on this. Son in law has worked a total of four weeks since last August. He's a journeyman electrician with a medium sized commercial electrical company on northern Illinois. They have a huge contract that will break ground soon weather permitting, but there has been virtually no work since fall. What do you do when there's no work out there?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 06:43 AM (oMKp3)

31 Happy for your cousin, Citizen X!

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, We Be Bossy at March 14, 2014 06:44 AM (kXoT0)

32 I'm going to play devil's advocate here for a bit. What's the rationale for extending long term unemployment benefits apart from we don't want to be meanie mcmeanersons? If the extension of long term unemployment benefits will result in a net gain due to people not receiving cash assistance, food stamps, housing assistance, heating assistance and will keep people from moving over to SSD and then getting Medicare, I can see a reason to support it from a financial standpoint. Is there any data on that or is it all meanie mcmeanersons?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 14, 2014 06:44 AM (VtjlW)

33 But if you work, you'll have to take out the trash and might get sweaty and slightly winded. Like that ex Politico reporter who beat up his girlfriend.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 14, 2014 06:45 AM (6qlHs)

34 Drew has a little trouble differentiating between a Collins and a McConnell. One of them is supposed to have testicles (at least, in theory).

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 14, 2014 06:45 AM (yU1Dt)

35 29  What do you do when there's no work out there?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 10:43 AM (oMKp3)



Get the Dems out of office so there will be work.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 14, 2014 06:45 AM (T2V/1)

36 What do you do when there's no work out there?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 10:43 AM (oMKp3)


You extend unemployment, but increase the documentation requirements.

or

You extend unemployment, with the caveat that the recipient has to do community service.

Posted by: grognard at March 14, 2014 06:45 AM (/29Nl)

37 Tami/grammie: I understand (been there a couple of decades ago). What we need is a coherent national policy to get the economy going.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 14, 2014 06:45 AM (659DL)

38 Murkowski and Collins. Reliable Democrat votes.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 14, 2014 06:46 AM (ELs9k)

39 The Democrats purged their party of anyone who goes against them.The GOP can't seem to manage rhat.

Posted by: steevy at March 14, 2014 06:46 AM (zqvg6)

40 20 I'm one of those unemployed and have not received a dime in two months. Believe me when I say that not all unemployed people are moochers. I need those benefits for now. I got laid off from my job in sales. Please understand that there are fellow conservatives that need help from time to time. I hope they resolve this TODAY! Posted by: Tami at March 14, 2014 10:40 AM (8bixK) Mind choosing a different nic....

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 14, 2014 06:46 AM (bCEmE)

41 Only a wacko bird would ignore the chance to sometimes support good government.

Posted by: John McVain at March 14, 2014 06:46 AM (VBbtu)

42 Prediction...after weeks of wrangling and MSM hits on the the House GOP for being big meanies, Boehner will bring this bill to the floor and let it pass with Democrats and a handful of liberal Repubicans. My (better) prediction- DrewM will be proven wrong. Again.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 14, 2014 06:47 AM (SY2Kh)

43 Democrats are Michael Corleone. GOP are Fredo Corleone. Both scumbag criminals, just one has balls and brains and the other, well...... Any questions?

Posted by: IrishEd at March 14, 2014 06:48 AM (D0NZx)

44 You extend unemployment, but increase the documentation requirements. ---------- Yeah that's the joke. I was on unemployment for a couple of months a few years ago. You had to keep a log of the jobs you applied for. You were required to apply for one job a week. One.

Posted by: Adam at March 14, 2014 06:48 AM (Aif/5)

45 What do you do when there's no work out there?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 10:43 AM (oMKp3)



You make it intolerable for the people who created that situation for the last six years to remain in office unless they radically change their policies.  The JEF and his enablers have damaged the economy greatly yet the "opposition party" sits around wringing its hands like it can't do a fucking thing, unlike what they campaigned on.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2014 06:48 AM (YvXkB)

46 This is tough. I know people who have been out of work for a very long time, and eventually, you are just unable to keep up with living expenses. Savings are drained, etc. Many people are caught in this net, and it is those unfortunate - who are really looking for a job that are getting screwed. If we stopped all the excess waste, we could pay for this. Chair humping studies. Bridges to nowhere. Global faux Warming allnighters.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 06:48 AM (IXrOn)

47 Get the Dems out of office so there will be work Long term, yes. Short term, you've got kids to feed. Fortunately my daughter has a good job and they are frugal. They live on her salary and bank most of his when he's working, so they are used to living on basically one income.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 06:48 AM (oMKp3)

48 If the extension of long term unemployment benefits will result in a net gain due to people not receiving cash assistance, food stamps, housing assistance, heating assistance

When you sign up for your first UE check, the forms tell you where to go get all that shit.

Posted by: HR at March 14, 2014 06:48 AM (ZKzrr)

49 Posted by: Tami at March 14, 2014 10:46 AM (bCEmE) OK so not you. Well then I can feel better going off on a concern troll then. (And a lot less confused.) Listen Not-Tami, I'm also unemployed, but because my previous job was an academic assistantship, I'm not eligible for unemployment. I can't say it better than this: I understand (been there a couple of decades ago). What we need is a coherent national policy to get the economy going. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 14, 2014 10:45 AM (659DL) So extend it all you want, but I'm still totally fucked until we actually get the economy moving.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 14, 2014 06:49 AM (HDwDg)

50 Dems understand that they could become victims of Markos-Lieberman Syndrome. RINOs seem to be immune to that sort of thing.

Posted by: Mallfly at March 14, 2014 06:49 AM (bJm7W)

51 And now, a message from Hollowpoint, to correct us on the error of our ways.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 14, 2014 06:49 AM (659DL)

52 What do you do when there's no work out there? There's no work and, sadly, no money either. Our welfare state is subsidized by China, who is more screwed up than we are, but better at keeping it secret. Once the secret is out, who are we going to get money from?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 14, 2014 06:49 AM (OCBPC)

53 Fuck it. Let's just pay people a living wage whether they work or not. We can fund it with unicorn farts. Because having a job blows.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 14, 2014 06:49 AM (ELs9k)

54 39 20 I'm one of those unemployed and have not received a dime in two months. Believe me when I say that not all unemployed people are moochers. I need those benefits for now. I got laid off from my job in sales. Please understand that there are fellow conservatives that need help from time to time. I hope they resolve this TODAY!

Posted by: Tami at March 14, 2014 10:40 AM (8bixK)  


Mind choosing a different nic....

Posted by: Tami at March 14, 2014 10:46 AM (bCEmE)

 

I was wondering about that.  That also reads like bullshit.  This is to extend the Unemployment benefits longer than what they already have.  If you haven't seen a dime in two months from unemployment then that's because you were passed the previous deadline, which I believe is damn near close to two years.

Posted by: buzzion at March 14, 2014 06:49 AM (LI48c)

55 Yeah that's the joke. I was on unemployment for a couple of months a few years ago. You had to keep a log of the jobs you applied for.

You were required to apply for one job a week. One.

Posted by: Adam at March 14, 2014 10:48 AM (Aif/5)





When I last had it in NY in 2009/2010, I had to keep the log, but they never once asked to see it.  I did everything online, went to the mandatory resume class, and then that was it.

I'm betting relatively few people are ever asked.

Posted by: grognard at March 14, 2014 06:50 AM (/29Nl)

56 Yeah, bipartisan = X democrats and 1 Republican.

Posted by: joncelli at March 14, 2014 06:50 AM (RD7QR)

57 ... and then you vote for Mike Lee, who you find out is in cahoots with Reid? Who do you trust to turn this around?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 06:50 AM (IXrOn)

58 You were required to apply for one job a week. One. Posted by: Adam at March 14, 2014 10:48 AM (Aif/5) The MAN had you struggling then. All I had to do was go online and click a box saying that I applied. (only on it for three months thankfully)

Posted by: RWC at March 14, 2014 06:51 AM (fWAjv)

59 So extend it all you want, but I'm still totally fucked until we actually get the economy moving. Yep. As are tax receipts, those needing health insurance, and all the other crap that Democrats claim to care about. A conspiratorily minded person would be inclined to blieve this was all some sort of grand charade.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 14, 2014 06:51 AM (659DL)

60

I call them sycophants.  If I used the street language translation for sycophant, I'd be banned!

 

Posted by: burt at March 14, 2014 06:51 AM (1+kJ5)

61 Unemployment is turning into another de facto welfare program.

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 14, 2014 06:52 AM (PFy0L)

62 You were required to apply for one job a week. One. At Vandalay Industries.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 14, 2014 06:52 AM (659DL)

63 Yeah that's the joke. I was on unemployment for a couple of months a few years ago. You had to keep a log of the jobs you applied for. You were required to apply for one job a week. One. Posted by: Adam at March 14, 2014 10:48 AM (Aif/5) And, in California, it is all done online. You search for a job online, find one, send your resume, then log onto the gov site and report it. Voila! Unemployment check! You can get, what, up $15K/annual in a mere 5 minutes.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 06:52 AM (IXrOn)

64

As I'm a special snowflake as in living Down Under and where it's almost 2am

 

I reckon I can interrupt and go OT

 

Good night everyone and have a wonderful yesterday!

 

 

Posted by: aussie at March 14, 2014 06:53 AM (yeSac)

65 OT, but this is a genius statement by our   Secretariat    of    State:



Kerry flew to London see if there are    “possibilities that we may be able to find about how to move forward,”    he said in a meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov today.




BLOOMBERG: http://tinyurl.com/pxrkpfc




Could you be    a little     more mealy-mouthed,        Horseface?     I don't think  you've humiliated our country enough yet.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 06:53 AM (4df7R)

66 61 So you want to be my latex salesman? Kjell Varnsson

Posted by: steevy at March 14, 2014 06:53 AM (zqvg6)

67 If you haven't seen a dime in two months from unemployment then that's because you were passed the previous deadline, which I believe is damn near close to two years. I think it's six months now, with possible emergency extension of a few months from your state. I could be wrong, but I know my son in law was nervous about bumping up against the deadline before he gets back on the job.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 06:54 AM (oMKp3)

68 Bottom line - if you are unemployed, then your job is finding a job.  You should be spending your 40 hours per week toward that goal.

This "apply for one job per week" shit is ridiculous.

Posted by: grognard at March 14, 2014 06:54 AM (/29Nl)

69 And now, a message from Hollowpoint, to correct us on the error of our ways. You're welcome: http://tinyurl.com/k326c89

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 14, 2014 06:54 AM (SY2Kh)

70 Good night, aussie!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 06:54 AM (4df7R)

71 The Senate GOP never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2014 06:54 AM (TE35l)

72 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 10:52 AM (IXrOn) I'm actually finding lots of part time places won't take paper applications anymore. I've chatted with some friends who say it's fear of the EEOC record keeping requirements. I've walked in, asked for an application and been told "we're no long allowed to take paper." One of those even resulted in an interview (no call back past that though, so meh, plus shitty part time retail, I'm sad but not crushed.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 14, 2014 06:54 AM (HDwDg)

73 so they are used to living on basically one income. Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 10:48 AM (oMKp3) This is key.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 06:55 AM (IXrOn)

74 Could you be a little more mealy-mouthed, Horseface? I don't think you've humiliated our country enough yet.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 14, 2014 10:53 AM (4df7R)



Levin was all over Reporting for Doody's anti-Israel garbage last night.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2014 06:55 AM (YvXkB)

75 11 NeverGiveUp, NGU they are giving us the chance to show we're patriotic... In their own way they are as shameless as Stalin and thw Churches...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2014 06:56 AM (TE35l)

76 the whole unemployed thing is pretty bad, the govt throws a wrecking ball through the economy through regulations and Obamacare  and millions become un-employed.

and everyone will have to chip in  to keep people from becoming homeless, and the media will cover because the Obama administration cannot be seen as driving a continuous stream of fkdness through the economy.

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2014 06:56 AM (nqBYe)

77 Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 10:54 AM (oMKp3) I thought I've heard 99 weeks in MO.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 14, 2014 06:56 AM (HDwDg)

78 If the gop somehow doesn't screw this year up (amnesty1111!!) and the 16 dem senators see their 14 brethren and sisteren get their peepees spanked over obama's priorities, they have a calculus, "my cushy high graft, low work life in the Senate or obama's failed policies?" Which to vote for, which to vote for?

Posted by: traye at March 14, 2014 06:56 AM (OJlrN)

79 When you sign up for your first UE check, the forms tell you where to go get all that shit. Posted by: HR at March 14, 2014 10:48 AM (ZKzrr) Yeah, see, I figured that was the case but I was making some passing attempt at seeing a rationale to it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 14, 2014 06:56 AM (VtjlW)

80

I'm also unemployed, but because my previous job was an academic assistantship, I'm not eligible for unemployment.

 

My cousin is unemployed and doesn't get unemployment because he had one of those tool delivery franchises (buy a truck and sell to mechanics) that failed.  I was unemployed last year because I had been an independent consultant and couldn't keep steady enough business. I didn't get unemployment. 

 

I know it really sucks.  I have an MBA and I still find myself waiting tables from time to time because life is hard. 

 

What I don't understand -- really don't, not being facetious, I lack the knowledge -- is how this became a federal issue.  I though UE was a state thing.  And I really don't understand how 1.5 years of UE isn't enough.  Longest I'd heard of was like 6 months.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 14, 2014 06:57 AM (A0sHn)

81 Kerry has been embarrassing this country since his filthy lying testimony about Vietnam in Congress.

Posted by: steevy at March 14, 2014 06:57 AM (zqvg6)

82 Pretty sure UE is 99 weeks, BEFORE this extension.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 06:57 AM (4df7R)

83 As I'm a special snowflake as in living Down Under and where it's almost 2am I reckon I can interrupt and go OT Good night everyone and have a wonderful yesterday! Posted by: aussie at March 14, 2014 10:53 AM (yeSac) night mate

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 06:57 AM (IXrOn)

84 If you need assistance with your pathetic existence a Government Employee will be with you in a moment.

Posted by: 7 Days in May at March 14, 2014 06:57 AM (WYUAi)

85 *slams door    on  willow's behalf*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 06:58 AM (4df7R)

86 The USA is living on borrowed money anyway. The collapse is inevitable. This vote will make no difference.

Posted by: eman at March 14, 2014 06:58 AM (AO9UG)

87 you know who never seems to pay for trainwrecking economies, Those who wreck em.

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2014 06:58 AM (nqBYe)

88 What a surprise that Mary Kirk went along with the Dems

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 14, 2014 06:58 AM (1Jaio)

89 MWR, thank you as i was carrying bagels and cream cheese for you.

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2014 06:58 AM (nqBYe)

90 Could you be a little more mealy-mouthed, Horseface? Yes. We might, if we worked really, really hard and burned the midnight oil and put our backs into it, at some point down the line-and we're not putting a deadline on it-if we keep our fingers crossed-decide on something related to the situation eventually.

Posted by: Horseface at March 14, 2014 06:59 AM (XyM/Y)

91 Kerry has been embarrassing this country since his filthy lying testimony about Vietnam in Congress he was born. Posted by: steevy FIFY

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 14, 2014 06:59 AM (aDwsi)

92 Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 14, 2014 10:57 AM (A0sHn) While I haven't been as devoted to the job hunt as I could be I suppose, I'm even having trouble finding part time retail work out there. Fact is it's shitty. If you can pull up stakes fairly quickly you can probably find work somewhere, but for those of us whose stakes are more like roots, we're just sorta hosed. Even falling back on the STEM degree hasn't helped me yet.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 14, 2014 06:59 AM (HDwDg)

93 The vet called. kitties are "fixed", still waking up. I can pick them up at noon. In and out in 3 and a half hours, that's not bad.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 14, 2014 07:00 AM (ZshNr)

94 92 When they go to lick themselves after the cone comes off,boy are they going to be angry with you.

Posted by: steevy at March 14, 2014 07:01 AM (zqvg6)

95 92 The vet called. kitties are "fixed", still waking up. I can pick them up at noon. In and out in 3 and a half hours, that's not bad.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 14, 2014 11:00 AM (ZshNr)

 

I think your kitties would argue they weren't broken in the first place.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 14, 2014 07:01 AM (DrWcr)

96 And, in California, it is all done online.
You search for a job online, find one, send your resume, then log onto the gov site and report it.
Voila! Unemployment check!
You can get, what, up $15K/annual in a mere 5 minutes.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 10:52 AM (IXrOn)

Before I officially retired, I attempted to apply in person at a couple of places.
I was told they (the companies) only took electronic applications, and that my paper resume would just be trashed.

Now that I'm officially retired, I still get phone calls and emails from a 3 year old resume.
They ask me if I can update it.
I tell them to just read it again.  I haven't written a professional line of code in 2 years and don't plan to start up again anytime soon.

Posted by: jwb7605 [/i][/u][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 07:01 AM (ZALPg)

97 you know who never seems to pay for trainwrecking economies, Those who wreck em. Posted by: willow at March 14, 2014 10:58 AM (nqBYe) I think we need to all drink to that. I will say that I deeply regret not applying for unemployment when I left my last job. Now, the reason I didn't is because I quit and you don't get benefits when you quit but I am very certain that had I applied my former bosses wouldn't have disputed it. Looking around and seeing all the graft and corruption, I feel like a fool for playing by the rules. See also Insty's the coming middle class anarchy.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 14, 2014 07:02 AM (VtjlW)

98 Possibilities that we may be able to find about how to move forward and develop contingencies consistent with our goals and progressing toward a solution incorporating possibilities that we may be able to find about how to move forward.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 14, 2014 07:02 AM (ZshNr)

99 So long as the economy stumbles along the Ds can win pathetic debates over entitlements. Yay for them.

Posted by: Beagle at March 14, 2014 07:03 AM (sOtz/)

100 That's what I said!

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 14, 2014 07:03 AM (ZshNr)

101 What a surprise that Mary Kirk went along with the Dems Look up the unemployment rate in IL and NV and you'll know why their Senators voted the way they did.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 14, 2014 07:03 AM (SY2Kh)

102

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!)

 

Dude, I was trying to reinforce your point.  Unemployment goes to people who meet one definition of unemployed, but not others.  I was, my cousin is, and you are the kind of unemployed person who doesn't get a safety net.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 14, 2014 07:03 AM (A0sHn)

103 My (better) prediction- DrewM will be proven wrong. Again.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 14, 2014 10:47 AM (SY2Kh)

 

The portrait of  President Jackson in my wallet  says you're going to eat those words.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2014 07:03 AM (zF6Iw)

104 81 Pretty sure UE is 99 weeks, BEFORE this extension. That was the case in some states a year or two ago. Since unemployment has dropped ( on paper, but I digress) that has been adjusted downward, in some states by half.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 07:04 AM (oMKp3)

105 " a proposal that will finally give Americans certainty about their unemployment benefits."

Oh, Boy, Just what we always wanted! As opposed to, say, certainty about our chances for employment. Who would want that.


tsrblke, I have a degree in ChemE, working as an "Editorial Coordinator" - fancy name for Editorial Dept gofer, so you are not alone.

Posted by: West at March 14, 2014 07:04 AM (1Rgee)

106 98 So long as the economy stumbles along the Ds can win pathetic debates over entitlements. Yay for them.

Posted by: Beagle at March 14, 2014 11:03 AM (sOtz/)

 

^This.  A vibrant economy is exactly what the Dems don't want, as it lets people get off the government teat.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 14, 2014 07:04 AM (DrWcr)

107 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 14, 2014 11:02 AM (VtjlW) My family is incredibly right leaning, to the point of libertarianism. And yet the one thing we've come to realize is that if you pass up on the chance to funnel some of the money your way you're only hurting yourself. Until we can elect people to stop redistribution, it's going to happen, the key is making sure you don't bleed to death in the meantime.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 14, 2014 07:04 AM (HDwDg)

108 90 Kerry has been embarrassing this country since his filthy lying testimony about Vietnam in Congress he was born.
Posted by: steevy
FIFY
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 14, 2014 10:59 AM (aDwsi)

John Kerry is the lowest common denominator between all things then and now.
Same tactics, same result.

Posted by: jwb7605 [/i][/u][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 07:04 AM (ZALPg)

109 This will have the odd effect of raising the Unemployment Rate by putting 100's of thousands back on the unemployment roles.

Posted by: Obama For Suckers at March 14, 2014 07:05 AM (e8kgV)

110 Have we developed options for the possibilites that we may find for moving forward?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 14, 2014 07:05 AM (659DL)

111 Want me to recite some cowboy poetry?

Posted by: Dingy Hairy Reid, known pederast at March 14, 2014 07:05 AM (7ObY1)

112 alex,  for many in certain fields  Many of those jobs are not coming back.

for instance coal, much  maufacturing,  building , construction, etc. etc.  if one is of a certain age, they are finished after running through their savings to stay a float.

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2014 07:05 AM (nqBYe)

113 President Obama is now the most powerful insurance salesman in the free world

Posted by: Obama For Suckers at March 14, 2014 07:06 AM (e8kgV)

114 Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 14, 2014 11:03 AM (A0sHn) Huh? Oh I was merely tacking on to how 6 months isn't enough, not actually refuting anything.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 14, 2014 07:06 AM (HDwDg)

115 John Kerry is the lowest common denominator between all things then and now. Same tactics, same result. Posted by: jwb7605 at March 14, 2014 11:04 AM (ZALPg) what drivel will he spew from London this morning...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 07:07 AM (IXrOn)

116 Levin was all over Reporting for Doody's anti-Israel garbage last night.

 

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2014 10:55 AM (YvXkB)


Remember, Cap, Levin is a huckster entertainer who makes money telling people what they want to hear.  We're not allowed to mention him anymore, or be damned  for being insufficiently pure.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2014 07:07 AM (zF6Iw)

117 The portrait of President Jackson in my wallet says you're going to eat those words. I carry Millard Fillmore around. LIFE-SIZED.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 14, 2014 07:07 AM (659DL)

118 also those too old to re enter college for jobs that still exist , and too young to retire

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2014 07:07 AM (nqBYe)

119 In and out in 3 and a half hours, that's not bad. Posted by: Lincolntf -------------------------- Yeah. Easy for you to say...

Posted by: The Emasculated Kitties at March 14, 2014 07:08 AM (aDwsi)

120

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 14, 2014 10:44 AM (VtjlW)

 

 meanie mcmeanersons

 

the research shows that extended and "generous" unemployment benefits extend unemployment. moreover, the longer the period of unemployment the more marginally attached someone becomes to the workforce (skills degrade, attitude get worse, etc).

 

it is a tough point to have the outrage meter get pegged over though. output is falling and if you find yourself in an unlucky industry or area it can take a while to find any job let alone one comparable to the one lost.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 14, 2014 07:09 AM (3yFC4)

121 MWR, thank you as i was carrying bagels and cream cheese for you.

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2014 10:58 AM (nqBYe)



Ooh,  thank you!    *noms*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 07:09 AM (4df7R)

122 And yet the one thing we've come to realize is that if you pass up on the chance to funnel some of the money your way you're only hurting yourself. If you paid taxes, you paid for this benefit. Get it while you can.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 14, 2014 07:09 AM (Qh0T+)

123 alex, for many in certain fields Many of those jobs are not coming back. for instance coal, much maufacturing, building , construction, etc. etc. if one is of a certain age, they are finished after running through their savings to stay a float. Posted by: willow at March 14, 2014 11:05 AM (nqBYe) That's why I was playing devil's advocate earlier. Let's say you are a 50 year old construction worker. You live in a state where the construction industry has cratered right along with the housing market. You are willing to pick up and move but you have a house that you must sell. The house has been on the market for 18 months with no buyers even though you have it priced realistically. Your savings are gone. You didn't want to do it but you cashed out the IRAs. Those are gone. Your spouse is working but her hours got cut down to 27 per week because Obamacare. Even if you let the house go, you still won't be making enough to rent an apartment in a semi decent neighborhood. Of course you're going to apply for SSD. What other choice do you have?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 14, 2014 07:10 AM (VtjlW)

124 for instance coal, much maufacturing, building , construction, etc. etc. if one is of a certain age, they are finished after running through their savings to stay a float. Posted by: willow at March 14, 2014 11:05 AM (nqBYe) And, for those that have to consider moving for a job, it does not only mean pulling their children from schools, etc, but, it costs SO much to move, some people just don't have the money to do so. They are already drained. And, they cannot sell their homes. Some people are just trapped, and need to feed their family.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 07:10 AM (IXrOn)

125 Is there anything Dem that Murkowski will not support. She's not even a RINO. That would be too trucon for her.

Posted by: Chique at March 14, 2014 07:11 AM (r+7wo)

126 if one is of a certain age, they are finished after running through their savings to stay a float. Posted by: willow --------------------------- A reality that Mrs. Hammer and I are acutely aware of. I vacillate between concern and panic regarding the resources we will have to live on.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 14, 2014 07:11 AM (aDwsi)

127 >>>119 also those too old to re enter college for jobs that still exist , and too young to retire

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2014 11:07 AM (nqBYe) <<<

 

bs. i was the oldest student in one of my classes (and pretty much all the classes I've been in since I enrolled)-even older than the instructor in one case. it probably isn't the most cost effective way to update or modernize skills but it does provide a pathway to comparable or better employment.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 14, 2014 07:12 AM (3yFC4)

128 if one is of a certain age, they are finished after running through their savings to stay a float. Posted by: willow So many, who were frugal enough to save money, and build 401K/IRA's have now dipped into them, too. So, any kind of retirement any time soon is off the table. The left says the economy is doing just fine...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 07:14 AM (IXrOn)

129 Remember, Cap, Levin is a huckster entertainer who makes money telling people what they want to hear. We're not allowed to mention him anymore, or be damned for being insufficiently pure.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2014 11:07 AM (zF6Iw)



Hmmmm, when was that directive released and by whom?  There are a lot of people who don't like listening to Levin because he screams a lot but if he was lacking in content, like Michael Savage for example, I wouldn't spend a second on him.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2014 07:14 AM (YvXkB)

130 hell we did Move for a new Job, which lasted 3 mths before That went Under, so those many thousands   spent to move across country was Lost , for 3 mths work. now spouse makes 1/3  and consider ourselves lucky to have at least  that.
i doubt we will ever again have the standard of living in our previous existance and yes i do blame our leadership .

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2014 07:14 AM (nqBYe)

131 Whew, reading Drudge (any news) really takes a lot of fortitude lately. Might be time for a news break. My hatred and sadness for mankind ratchets up. Principles? Right and wrong? The Constitution? Laws? Buying power and votes? Outright theft in the House and Senate? We are definitely in the Empire downhill slide.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 14, 2014 07:14 AM (A98Xu)

132

"And the deal is for 5 months so....we'll be back here in August doing it again. Just in time for the start of the campaign season and another round of "Republicans hate the unemployed"."

 

 

The point of extending it is to remove it from as a topic, and it will be extended again in August for the same reason.  I prefer to keep ObamaCare front and center and not these other issues.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 14, 2014 07:14 AM (hLRSq)

133 A reality that Mrs. Hammer and I are acutely aware of. I vacillate between concern and panic regarding the resources we will have to live on.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 14, 2014 11:11 AM (aDwsi)

Just give up cable and your cell phone.  It's that easy.

If you have problems after that, just call or get online.

Posted by: JugEars McF**stick [/i][/u][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 07:14 AM (ZALPg)

134 But the brunt of unemployment benefit cost is incurred by business taxes consumers. FIFY

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 14, 2014 07:14 AM (aDwsi)

135 Of course you're going to apply for SSD. What other choice do you have?
*****************

Per Maetenloch, you're evil.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at March 14, 2014 07:15 AM (vgIRn)

136 F the party of 5tOOpid.

this is why it doesn't matter if the GOP does well in November or not.

they'll do the same shit the Demonrats do,

Let.
It.
Burn.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 14, 2014 07:15 AM (q+fqH)

137 rich, good for you, my spouse is almost 60 , seems a little old to start a new. I however have a better chance  than he if i can be freed up taking care of the little ones  (cost)

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2014 07:16 AM (nqBYe)

138 Kirk's career should have been over when he broke ranks with the party on Cap and Trade as a Congressman. http://tinyurl.com/mmbmfww  Instead he got elevated to the Senate.  Would be nice if the GOP was as hard on itself as it is on its base.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 14, 2014 07:16 AM (XO6WW)

139 Have you bought your Health Insurance yet?

Posted by: I am Your Mother.... The Scold at March 14, 2014 07:16 AM (32Ze2)

140 Hmmmm, when was that directive released and by whom? There are a lot of people who don't like listening to Levin because he screams a lot but if he was lacking in content, like Michael Savage for example, I wouldn't spend a second on him. Yesterday, by one of the usual cast of betters around here.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 14, 2014 07:16 AM (659DL)

141 Remember, Cap, Levin is a huckster entertainer who makes money telling people what they want to hear. We're not allowed to mention him anymore, or be damned for being insufficiently pure. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2014 11:07 AM (zF6Iw) Hmmmm, when was that directive released and by whom? There are a lot of people who don't like listening to Levin because he screams a lot but if he was lacking in content, like Michael Savage for example, I wouldn't spend a second on him. Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2014 11:14 AM (YvXkB) Levin is a fighter, who's health has taken many hits as a result. I love the guy. I don't always agree with him (although it's very rare), but I love his fight. It's not just words, he takes action.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 07:16 AM (IXrOn)

142 Is this another post about that "money" thingy I hear so much about?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 14, 2014 07:18 AM (0HooB)

143 How come no Democrats ever compromise to cut spending or taxes?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2014 07:18 AM (0LHZx)

144 OT Spring might make an appearance in Wisconsin after all. There's a pair of mourning doves tweeting on my porch. Life!

Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 07:19 AM (oMKp3)

145 RINOs stab us in the back. Again. Hollowpoint: "It's just a flesh wound!" All but 5 Republican Senators voted against this, including Senators routinely described as RINOs. That it passed the Senate should be blamed on those 5 individuals. The House (Boehner) has blocked similar bills in the past. We have no indication that the House will disregard the "Hastert Rule" to pass this.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 14, 2014 07:19 AM (SY2Kh)

146 146 How come no Democrats ever compromise to cut spending or taxes?
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2014 11:18 AM (0LHZx)

Because there's nothing left to cut.
Sheesh.

Posted by: jwb7605 [/i][/u][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 07:19 AM (ZALPg)

147 OT: This has Krispie Kreme's fingerprints all over it.

http://tinyurl.com/q2dadee

Somebody alert Maddow.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 14, 2014 07:19 AM (XUKZU)

148 On Day 1, you march your ass to Micky D's, or drive to Texas and live outta your car for a few weeks.

That doesn't sound like a government program.

Posted by: HR at March 14, 2014 07:20 AM (ZKzrr)

149 Beer news break: Steelheads hockey fans sue arena owner over beer prices The lawsuit, filed in Boise's 4th District Court on Tuesday, contends that Block 22 LLC, which does business as CenturyLink Arena, defrauded customers by fooling them into thinking that a tall, narrow cup of beer sold for $7 was substantially bigger than a shorter, wider cup sold for $4. video at link of him pouring a small into a large, virtually identical http://tinyurl.com/kwltlhg

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 07:20 AM (IXrOn)

150 so anyway budgets , smudgets, who needs em.

Posted by: Unites States of America at March 14, 2014 07:20 AM (nqBYe)

151 In my state the employer pays about 95% of the cost. Sure the employee pays a buck or two a week and therefore feels entitled. But the brunt of unemployment benefit cost is incurred by business taxes. Period. We're not going to pretend that taxes aren't a big vat, are we? Most of our social security checks went into bridges. Revenue is revenue.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 14, 2014 07:20 AM (Qh0T+)

152

If you qualify, you've got to draw unemployment. You're shorting your household if you don't.

 

And before some of you rock-ribbed, bloviating fucks start calling me a grifter, I've drawn a grand total of three unemployment checks in my life.

 

The friggin' uncertainty drove me crazy. Literally crazy. Hated it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 14, 2014 07:21 AM (C9oSS)

153 Compare Levin to, say, Harry Reid. There is a shockingly small gravitas gap between talk radio and political leadership. Levin when I heard him seemed to be doing outrage for entertainment while making some good points. Reid when I see him is demonizing the Koch brothers like an inquisitor on a witch.

Posted by: Beagle at March 14, 2014 07:21 AM (sOtz/)

154 "Hmmmm, when was that directive released and by whom?" Obscure hint: willow called him a turd yesterday. Brightened my day.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 14, 2014 07:21 AM (gBnkX)

155 I did a calculation once on how much money I could get from the govt, legally, using all available welfare programs. It would be SSI, WIC, Food stamps, Section 8, Medicaid, Obamaphone, free WiFi for low income, discounted electricity rates. All in total it added up to $42,000 a year for a family of 4. Granted that's not exactly luxury living, but it's enough of an incentive to make people not want to work.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2014 07:21 AM (0LHZx)

156 Looking around and seeing all the graft and corruption, I feel like a fool for playing by the rules.

See also Insty's the coming middle class anarchy.

The New Class guys keep setting up perverse incentives.  Then they act all shocked when people logically follow them.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 14, 2014 07:21 AM (B/VB5)

157 147 OT Spring might make an appearance in Wisconsin after all. There's a pair of mourning doves tweeting on my porch. Life! Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 11:19 AM (oMKp3 They are tweeting that UE Benies have been extended!!!

Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 14, 2014 07:21 AM (HVff2)

158

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2014 11:16 AM (nqBYe)

 

thought you were referring to the marginal revolution post flagged up a few days back. sorry i was so snarky. i am sympathetic to your situation. my dad has been unemployed for a while and i just recently joined him. school is about the only bright spot for me right now.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 14, 2014 07:22 AM (3yFC4)

159 I am coming up on 4 years of off and on employment/unemployment. The market sucks out there. That is why I started my own business. Loyalty and dedication to an employer is a fools errand in this day and age. I am sure I will be fine in the end but I have also cashed in everything just to live. If the business does well I can sell it or turn it over to my kids and have some little retirement, but the last 4 years have aged me, and I feel it. I feel sorry for others who are in the same shoes I am. It's tough.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 14, 2014 07:23 AM (32Ze2)

160 If you qualify, you've got to draw unemployment. You're shorting your household if you don't. And before some of you rock-ribbed, bloviating fucks start calling me a grifter, I've drawn a grand total of three unemployment checks in my life. The friggin' uncertainty drove me crazy. Literally crazy. Hated it. Posted by: ScoggDog at March 14, 2014 11:21 AM (C9oSS) ______ I agree. If it's there, there's no shame in getting the money. You'd have to be stupid to NOT take the money. The money just shouldn't be there to begin with. I don't blame people for being on welfare. I blame the government for providing the welfare. There is a difference.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2014 07:23 AM (0LHZx)

161 >Spring might make an appearance in Wisconsin after all. There's a pair of mourning doves tweeting on my porch. Life!

Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 11:19 AM (oMKp3)<



Sounds like brunch grammie. 

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 14, 2014 07:23 AM (sjdRT)

162

Looks like Obammy will have to use his pen and phone again ::

Deadline Looms For 'High Risk' Enrollees

The Wall Street Journal, March 14, 2014

Thousands of "high risk" people with existing medical conditions remain enrolled in a federal health-insurance program slated to close March 31, making it likely the Obama administration again will have to extend the program or risk seeing sick people lose coverage. The program was set up soon after the 2010 health law was passed to offer temporary assistance to people who couldn't get coverage from commercial insurers. Participation in the program got off to a slow start, but at its peak it covered more than 100,000 people. The program suspended new enrollment in February 2013 to guarantee that its $5 billion in funding would be sufficient to continuing paying members' medical claims through Dec. 31, the last date on which their health conditions would count against them in insurance plans. Amid the messy launch of the online insurance portals, which delayed millions of Americans from getting new health plans, the federal government postponed the program's closure to Jan. 31 to avoid the prospect that roughly 85,000 people still enrolled in it then would find themselves without coverage. People have to sign up by the end of this week for coverage that takes effect April 1.

 

Posted by: McCool at March 14, 2014 07:23 AM (nCSwS)

163 Ever notice the Democrats never have any problem finding Republicans who will sellout to help them? It's not just your GOPers selling out. It's the people who vote for them. Garbage in, garbage out.

Posted by: WTP at March 14, 2014 07:23 AM (sPO/s)

164 Of course you're going to apply for SSD. What other choice do you have? On Day 1, you march your ass to Micky D's, or drive to Texas and live outta your car for a few weeks. Posted by: Beefy at March 14, 2014 11:16 AM (yn6XZ) Back to devil's advocacy here. Okay so you get 20 hours a week at Micky D's. That doesn't pay the mortgage. You can't drive to Texas and live out of your car because there's only one car and the spouse needs it to get to her part time job. You can't just move somewhere else because you are trying not to lose the 17+ years equity you have built up in your house. You can't move to ND because your elderly mother lives in town and you are her main caregiver. Again, I'm not saying that I agree with people going on SSD or with the extension of unemployment benefits, because I don't, but what I am saying is that I comprehend why this is an issue that the Dems believe is fantastic to throw in the faces of those on the Right.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 14, 2014 07:24 AM (VtjlW)

165 rich , np.

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2014 07:24 AM (nqBYe)

166 "And before some of you rock-ribbed, bloviating fucks start calling me a grifter, I've drawn a grand total of three unemployment checks in my life." I don't think I've seen any Moron call another Moron a grifter for having to draw unemployment. As far as I'm concerned, if you've been contributing into the system you're more than entitled to get your money back if you're able.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 14, 2014 07:25 AM (gBnkX)

167 Posted by: Muad'dib at March 14, 2014 11:23 AM (sjdRT) LOL. I was thinking the exact same thing!

Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 07:25 AM (oMKp3)

168 All in total it added up to $42,000 a year for a family of 4.
Granted that's not exactly luxury living, but it's enough of an incentive to make people not want to work.

Two parents working full-time at $10/hr would bring in $40k minus payroll taxes and childcare expense.  Work is for chumps.

Posted by: HR at March 14, 2014 07:25 AM (ZKzrr)

169 I know it doesn't do any good but it makes me feel better to say fuck the GOPe

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 14, 2014 07:26 AM (R8hU8)

170
Kerry flew to London see if there are “possibilities that we may be able to find about how to move forward,” he said in a meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov today.

-
From the No Shit Sherlock files:


Kerry: IÂ’m approaching the Keystone XL pipeline with a totally blank slate

John, John, you approach everything with a totally blank slate.  that's why we are where we are/.


From HA

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 14, 2014 07:26 AM (XUKZU)

171 >As far as I'm concerned, if you've been contributing into the system you're more than entitled to get your money back if you're able.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 14, 2014 11:25 AM (gBnkX)<



Except for the fact that unemployment insurance is 100% employer funded.  No employee contributes a dime to it.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 14, 2014 07:26 AM (sjdRT)

172 Are thee 5 RINOs up for re-election in 2014 or are they safe?

Posted by: votermom at March 14, 2014 07:26 AM (GSIDW)

173 The money just shouldn't be there to begin with. I don't blame people for being on welfare. I blame the government for providing the welfare. There is a difference. I blame the government for not doing everything possible to promote a robust economy with a diversity of opportunity for all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 14, 2014 07:26 AM (0HooB)

174 Unemployment and SSD benefits can be a lifeline to    people who genuinely need them.  I have no problem with those people, anymore   than I have    problems with people who legitimately need welfare to keep them afloat until they can support themselves again.   People fall on hard times.   That doesn't make them bad people, it just makes them human.   I genuinely believe that most people, if given the choice, are still going to choose to have a job and support themselves   rather   than depend on someone else.



But that's the problem:   our fucking gubmint   has decided that   it's better to strangle the private sector    and force more people     into   seemingly unending unemployment    instead of getting the hell out of the way   so that those people can find jobs again.      I don't direct my anger at those collecting unemployment or SSD or welfare;   even   the fraudsters    bilking those systems for billions of dollars    get less derision from me than the g-ddamn POLITICIANS and BUREAUCRATS who won't do the simplest    things   to free up the economy and   genuinely HELP people.



Fuck them all.   Throw the bastards out and salt the ground so they can never return.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 07:27 AM (4df7R)

175 I would say that Republicans can show cause and effect of What has been done to the economy, What can be done to change the course of our disaster. Openly and often, I'm sure those still unemployed that worked  everyday for years aren't digging their funvacation and would like to go back to a life style previously enjoyed.
not to mention the strain of trying to stay afloat  and without much future hope for their children at this rate.

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2014 07:27 AM (nqBYe)

176

Posted by: Beefy at March 14, 2014 11:16 AM (yn6XZ) -

 

lol. and we wonder why we lose elections...

 

don't see too many 55 year old men, without the skill set, putting on a hardhat and steeltoes for some drilling work.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 14, 2014 07:28 AM (3yFC4)

177 Laura I. just played audio of a conversation between the JEF and Ryan Seacrest - talked about the GAP. Yesterday. We have such a cool potus...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 07:28 AM (IXrOn)

178 Robert Papierz ‏@RobertPapierz 13h SXSW driver is 21 years old, has 6 kids, multiple mothers. Has a brother w different last name. When can we address culture? Who in their right mind wants to be the father of 6 kids with multiple mothers? Sure, he's not paying for them but if he were to ever make any money, the gov is coming after him. But, since he is headed to prison for the rest of his life or death row, he won' have to pay a dime. I guess the kids will be good tools to use to beg to spare his life. You cant believe how many assholes who are on deathrow, have multiple kids they have never seen or supported, who suddenly become father of the year.

Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 14, 2014 07:28 AM (r7mtu)

179
I blame the government for not doing everything possible to promote a robust economy with a diversity of opportunity for all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 14, 2014 11:26 AM (0HooB)


they might not be able to create jobs, but they can sure keep the boot off the neck of a  economic recovery

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2014 07:29 AM (nqBYe)

180 Yesterday, by one of the usual cast of betters around here.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 14, 2014 11:16 AM (659DL)



Holy shit, there was quite a slattering in response, about which I was previously unaware.  Yes Landmark Legal Foundation is walking the walk.



And in response to his voice being grating, it can't possibly be more irritating than I find listening to the JEF's smooth nothingness of anti Americanism.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2014 07:29 AM (YvXkB)

181 Except for the fact that unemployment insurance is 100% employer funded. No employee contributes a dime to it. Posted by: Muad'dib at March 14, 2014 11:26 AM (sjdRT) You are flat out wrong. Different states have different rules. Some states have 100% employer taxation and some states have both employer and employee taxation.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 14, 2014 07:30 AM (VtjlW)

182 I see horse face is 90 minutes late for his presser. I guess the horse is learning punctuality from obama

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 14, 2014 07:30 AM (t3UFN)

183 Except for the fact that unemployment insurance is 100% employer funded. No employee contributes a dime to it. It's an employment expense. One could argue if it wasn't being paid to the gov't it would be paid to the employee.

Posted by: WTP at March 14, 2014 07:30 AM (kZVsz)

184 Insiders very close to House White House Press Secretary Jay Carney indicate that heÂ’s on his way out of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, The Mirror has learned. Carney has told people heÂ’s leaving the White House soon.

Posted by: William Jefferson "Bill" Clinton at March 14, 2014 07:31 AM (e8kgV)

185 Robert Papierz ‏@RobertPapierz 13h

SXSW driver is 21 years old, has 6 kids, multiple mothers. Has a brother w different last name. When can we address culture?



Who in their right mind wants to be the father of 6 kids with multiple mothers?


I doubt he cared one way or the other   about   whether the women he    had   sex with got pregnant or not.   Odds he sees any of those kids on more than a    once or twice a    week/month/year basis,  if at all?     Not very high.    He's only 21,   so either he's been fucking a lot of women in a very short time or he started   at a young age.



Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 07:32 AM (4df7R)

186 "Except for the fact that unemployment insurance is 100% employer funded. No employee contributes a dime to it." Which is why I separated the more-general "the system" from the comment on unemployment. Sorry for my lack of clarity. Bottom line is, the system has been milking you (or your employer on your behalf) for years, so if you have a chance to get some of that back, go for it.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 14, 2014 07:32 AM (gBnkX)

187 Malaysia Airlines plane found in box of Cracker Jacks

Posted by: Bernie Maddoff at March 14, 2014 07:32 AM (e8kgV)

188 When I was unemployed, I played video games for the first 6 months. I did my 1 job search a week as required (but never verified) in about 10 minutes and that was it. I didn't even start looking until they told me its the last month of freebies. I know its not very conservative of me, but hey, free shit yo!

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 14, 2014 07:32 AM (9Bdcz)

189 Except for the fact that unemployment insurance is 100% employer funded. No employee contributes a dime to it. Down here, you have to work and pay taxes for a certain length of time in order to collect unemployment. I was told this by a state employee a few years back.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 14, 2014 07:32 AM (0HooB)

190 I saw the 5 Dems listed, now who were the Repubs?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 14, 2014 07:32 AM (gorVZ)

191 and we wonder why we lose elections...

Just because fascism is popular right now doesn't mean it's right.

When can we address culture?

You can't, because imposing your white middle-class mores is racist.

Posted by: HR at March 14, 2014 07:32 AM (ZKzrr)

192 >It's an employment expense. One could argue if it wasn't being paid to the gov't it would be paid to the employee.

Posted by: WTP at March 14, 2014 11:30 AM (kZVsz)<



One could argue it unsuccessfully in my company. 

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 14, 2014 07:33 AM (sjdRT)

193 Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 14, 2014 11:11 AM (aDwsi) This downturn has made Mrs. tsr even more concerned about our liquid cash, non retirement savings. Which, given that I'm out of work and we need a new driveway puts even more pressure on the budget. Which, puts even more pressure on life in general. Which makes her more concerned about the savings. You see where this is going right?

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 14, 2014 07:33 AM (HDwDg)

194 Remember, Cap, Levin is a huckster entertainer who makes money telling people what they want to hear. We're not allowed to mention him anymore, or be damned for being insufficiently pure. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2014 11:07 AM (zF6Iw) I hope Carol understood your /snark this morning. I suppose she's around enough to know.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 07:33 AM (IXrOn)

195

This comment section, as is shockingly often the case, sort of illustrates the probably-unrecoverable state we have reached - if you look closely.  I'm talking about the underlying issue, not the pathetic GOP.  Economic literacy and understanding of the role of government in a *successful* free economy - these are not universally strong points among "conservative" types, even wingnuts like many around here.

 

Oh - and slightly OT, the current GOP effort to pass a law saying a president must, er, follow the law perfectly illustrates two separate embarrassments.  First, it reveals how deeply flawed the wonderful unique American constitutional system has become, in that "standing" basically allows suspension of the constitution and all laws on a whim (by the judiciary).  Second, the cowardice of the GOP.  The power of the purse was intended as the main check on executive power, which is why it was invested in the House, which was the only directly-elected federal body under the constitution as written and adopted.

 

 

Posted by: non-purist at March 14, 2014 07:33 AM (afQnV)

196 But that's the problem: our fucking gubmint has decided that it's better to strangle the private sector and force more people into seemingly unending unemployment instead of getting the hell out of the way so that those people can find jobs again. I don't direct my anger at those collecting unemployment or SSD or welfare; even the fraudsters bilking those systems for billions of dollars get less derision from me than the g-ddamn POLITICIANS and BUREAUCRATS who won't do the simplest things to free up the economy and genuinely HELP people. Fuck them all. Throw the bastards out and salt the ground so they can never return. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 14, 2014 11:27 AM (4df7R) This. I don't remember if I mentioned this but the other day my current boss, who is fairly liberal, came out from meeting with some people and he went on this Moron worthy rant about how they were both on SSD and they both looked like they could work and between the SSD and all the other benefits they were getting, they made more than he paid us and how we all work so hard and it wasn't right that they made more. I had to bite the inside of my cheek to stop from shouting out told you so!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 14, 2014 07:34 AM (VtjlW)

197 >Down here, you have to work and pay taxes for a certain length of time in order to collect unemployment. I was told this by a state employee a few years back.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 14, 2014 11:32 AM (0HooB)<



This is also true in WI. 

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 14, 2014 07:34 AM (sjdRT)

198 I doubt he cared one way or the other about whether the women he had sex with got pregnant or not.

If you make a lot of kids with a lot of women, it's proof you're a stud (to use my white middle-aged vernacular).  If you make kids of with a lot of men, it's proof men desire you.

It's the culture, and you can't talk about it because that's racist, but it doesn't matter because they're not going to listen to white people of any political stripe.

Posted by: HR at March 14, 2014 07:35 AM (ZKzrr)

199 Breaking News: Clown Carney is leaving the regime.  Get your resumes in now.  Be sure to include all the times you lied to your wife that she never found out about.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 14, 2014 07:35 AM (XUKZU)

200 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 14, 2014 11:24 AM (VtjlW) I'm lucky enough to not be in dire straights over here. Nevertheless, I'd like to see the left focusing more on building the economy than extending UE benefits. Call it sour grapes because I can't get them, but that's where it stands.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 14, 2014 07:35 AM (HDwDg)

201 "Down here, you have to work and pay taxes for a certain length of time in order to collect unemployment. I was told this by a state employee a few years back." My head just broke by desk.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 14, 2014 07:35 AM (gBnkX)

202 Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 14, 2014 11:33 AM (HDwDg)

Yup....no sex.

Posted by: Married Morons everywhere at March 14, 2014 07:36 AM (QFxY5)

203 Where's hollowpoint to tell us how great the GOP is and we need to blindly keep voting GOP no matter what?

Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 14, 2014 07:36 AM (sOx93)

204 Down goes Carney???

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 14, 2014 07:36 AM (gBnkX)

205 Except for the fact that unemployment insurance is 100% employer funded. No employee contributes a dime to it.

Theoretically, the employees do pay, its all considered part of the compensation to an employer.  Money that could be deferred to salaries.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 14, 2014 07:36 AM (gorVZ)

206 Insiders very close to House White House Press Secretary Jay Carney indicate that heÂ’s on his way out of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, The Mirror has learned. Carney has told people heÂ’s leaving the White House soon. ------------------------- At last, Carney is tired of playing the stooge. Too bad the rest of the administration is not subjected to the same sort of grilling and discomfort on a daily basis.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 14, 2014 07:36 AM (aDwsi)

207 You can't, because imposing your white middle-class mores is racist.

Posted by: HR at March 14, 2014 11:32 AM (ZKzrr)



I do find it    darkly   comic   (ironic?)    that   the driver was black,   and SXSW is notoriously    pale   in terms of those who attend  and exhibit.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 07:37 AM (4df7R)

208 Re Carney. Who would want to go down with a sinking ship? A lot for the moment, but many are dropping. He'll stick with the Dems, though.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 07:37 AM (IXrOn)

209 Would it really be that hard for the GOP to hold a presser, say exactly what Alexthechick said as the devil's advocate in this thread, and then put the blame for the circumstances squarely where it belongs?

I'm no longer asking if they are too stupid to realize these very obvious things.  Of course they are smart enough to know how to fight, if they really believed in their supposed cause.

If you believe someone is out to destroy your family, you fight it with everything you have.

If you swore an oath to defend the Constitution, and you take that oath seriously, you fight with everything you have.

So when the GOP doesn't do anything more than lip service to counteract the march of the leftists, even though they are constantly *saying* the Constitution is threatened...well, frankly, it implies that either they don't believe it, or don't care.

Either of those make them unfit for office.

Posted by: grognard at March 14, 2014 07:37 AM (/29Nl)

210 B-b-but it's all good, ya see. These people are REPUBLICANS. It's been argued right here at Ace-o-Spades that -- !!first things first!! -- we have to elect REPUBLICANS and then we can change how our government works. Hahahahahah! = = = = = = = NOW will some of the "gotta find electable Republicans" crowd PLEEEEZE notice what's wrong with their proposition? When you elect "Republicans" who are pro-big-government Progressives, you get Big-Government Progressivism. The "R" after their name does not change that. = = = = = = = On a different note, did anybody see this National Review article by Sen Jeff Sessions http://www.nationalreview.com/node/373230/print titled "Becoming the Party of Work" ? (sigh). It would be nice if the dinosaur GOP would take heed, and focus on helping Americans get jobs instead of wringing their hands over amnesty and the urgent(?!) "need" to bring lawbreakers "out of the shadows".

Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at March 14, 2014 07:37 AM (03xO6)

211 My oldest stepson's upstairs neighbours are on food stamps and WIC and whatever else they've managed to get.  It's a sister, her younger brother, and the sister's boyfriend.

The sister approached my stepson recently and offered to sell him her EBT card for X dollars.  He is trying to figure out a way to record her saying it so he can turn it over to the state auditor or IG or whoever else handles that kind of stuff.

He's dirt poor himself but has so far managed to stay away from the bennies.  I commend him and will help him in any way I can.

Posted by: EC at March 14, 2014 07:38 AM (GQ8sn)

212 Economic literacy and understanding of the role of government in a *successful* free economy - these are not universally strong points among "conservative" types, even wingnuts like many around here. Please, tell me how to be absolved of my sins. Give it a rest. Calling the horde ignorant in couched terms is not a good communications strategy. Just sayin'....

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 14, 2014 07:38 AM (659DL)

213 At last, Carney is tired of playing the stooge. Too bad the rest of the administration is not subjected to the same sort of grilling and discomfort on a daily basis.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 14, 2014 11:36 AM (aDwsi)

I'd like to see him replace Alan Colmes at Fox News.

The irony would be magnificent, and Carney is actually likeable sometimes.

Posted by: jwb7605 [/i][/u][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 07:38 AM (ZALPg)

214 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 14, 2014 11:34 AM (VtjlW)

It's irrational to expect people not to take advantage of the system.

Our jobs as conservatives is to explain to the great unwashed that the system is what is keeping them from achieving a better life.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 14, 2014 07:38 AM (QFxY5)

215 Jay Carney's next job: Infommertial spokesman on Lifetime Network selling Miracle Grapefruit Diet Pills.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 14, 2014 07:39 AM (XUKZU)

216

Posted by: HR at March 14, 2014 11:32 AM (ZKzrr) -

 

yea "fascism"...because telling older, displaced workers caught up cyclical unemployment to go work at MickyD's (good luck getting an interview) or living out of your car in Texas (or ND) is... 

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 14, 2014 07:39 AM (3yFC4)

217 @45 artisanal 'ette I know a couple of people like that. One is 69 and finally landed a low rent job as a driver and is barely making it. Obama really killed off alot of the small jobs that would have kept him going-- no one is hiring as Obamacare is looming on the horizon.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at March 14, 2014 07:39 AM (S+FO9)

218 "At last, Carney is tired of playing the stooge. Too bad the rest of the administration is not subjected to the same sort of grilling and discomfort on a daily basis." I doubt it. He's done enough time to land a lucrative job with All the Right People. Any discomfort he's had to deal with has been mild compared to what it would be if his boss were an R.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 14, 2014 07:39 AM (gBnkX)

219 Bottom line - you're not going to fix unemployment or any sort of entitlement until you improve things so people have reasonable alternatives in a growing job market.

THEN you can say, "get a job you deadbeat" and be justified.

Posted by: grognard at March 14, 2014 07:40 AM (/29Nl)

220

Be sure to include all the times you lied to your wife that she never found out about.

 

Ex-wife

Posted by: she found out, alright at March 14, 2014 07:40 AM (A0sHn)

221 Our jobs as conservatives is to explain to the great unwashed that the system is what is keeping them from achieving a better life. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 14, 2014 11:38 AM (QFxY5) Fear wins though. People are afraid to give up the system for a better life because there's a chance it won't be better.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 14, 2014 07:40 AM (HDwDg)

222 I still have a hard time dealing with the fact that there's a whole slew of people in office who are dedicated to making sure we have less. Less money, less freedom, less of everything. And we keep putting up with it. I just don't get it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 14, 2014 07:40 AM (0HooB)

223 Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran possible flight path /sigh

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 07:40 AM (IXrOn)

224 Carney ends up at NBC--hosting Meet the Press. TAKING ALL BETS.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 14, 2014 07:40 AM (659DL)

225 Visit Russia ...

Before Russia Visits YOU

http://tinyurl.com/ln2o6zu

Posted by: kbdabear at March 14, 2014 07:41 AM (aTXUx)

226 At last, Carney is tired of playing the stooge. Too bad the rest of the administration is not subjected to the same sort of grilling and discomfort on a daily basis.


Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 14, 2014 11:36 AM (aDwsi)


I hope he waits until after  Obammy and Horseface have created a further clusterfuck of the Ukraine situation, so that we have that much more chance of seeing Carney barker     collapse in a twitching, crying heap   at the podium.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 07:41 AM (4df7R)

227 Our jobs as conservatives is to explain to the great unwashed that the system is what is keeping them from achieving a better life.

And they laugh, because you think having to go out and work for less than you can get for not working is a "better life."

Posted by: HR at March 14, 2014 07:41 AM (ZKzrr)

228 I was laid off for 2 weeks last year. Here in NH you can't draw the first week, so I could have drawn 1 week of UE. I've never taken a dime and didn't then either. Screw it I know you can't eat pride but at least I have mine. Plus we're cheap assed frugal bastards here and the lost of wages didn't screw us

Posted by: NativeNH at March 14, 2014 07:42 AM (cU5m3)

229 Carney is actually likeable sometimes. Posted by: jwb7605 at March 14, 2014 11:38 AM (ZALPg) NO he isn't

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 14, 2014 07:42 AM (t3UFN)

230

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 14, 2014 11:34 AM (VtjlW)

 

PA did a good study on this (assumption was a single mom) and Cato extended the study. eye opening.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 14, 2014 07:42 AM (3yFC4)

231 McRINO Says He’s “Embarrassed” By Republicans Holding Up Ukraine Bill, Claims Ronald Reagan Would Be Ashamed Of Them… What a jackass. Weasel Zippers: Go home you senile bastard

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 14, 2014 07:43 AM (t3UFN)

232 @214 EC "He is trying to figure out a way to record her saying it so he can turn it over to the state auditor or IG or whoever else handles that kind of stuff." The state will not do a thing. Welfare fraud is so rampant it is easier for the state to ingnore the evidence than act on it.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at March 14, 2014 07:43 AM (S+FO9)

233 NO he isn't
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 14, 2014 11:42 AM (t3UFN)

Carney is incompetent in a pathetically funny way.
Colmes is just pathetic, and always makes me angry.

Posted by: jwb7605 [/i][/u][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 07:43 AM (ZALPg)

234 reality chuckle Palin: “I certainly don’t complain or whine about this, but, for example, consider the stupid stuff that comes out of Joe Biden’s mouth all the time. If I had said even one-tenth of the crazy things he said in 2008 or since then, the media would call for me to be institutionalized. Some of that is the typical media bias against conservatives, but not all of it. thegatewaypundit

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 07:44 AM (IXrOn)

235 Fear wins though.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 14, 2014 11:40 AM (HDwDg)

And that is why Ronald Reagan was so successful.

He removed the fear of the future from his speeches. "Morning in America" was something he took to heart.

Contrast that with the current cocksucker who holds that office. He is a fear-mongering bastard.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 14, 2014 07:44 AM (QFxY5)

236 From RDBrewer's link in the sidebar:



Peggy Noonan: Warnings From the Ukraine Crisis
"Not being George W. Bush is not a foreign policy. Not invading countries is not a foreign policy. Wishing to demonstrate your sophistication by announcing you are unencumbered by the false historical narratives of the past is not a foreign policy. Assuming the world will be nice if we're not militarist is not a foreign policy."



Thanks for waking up, Peggy.    Too bad you      voted for the bastard.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 07:44 AM (4df7R)

237 Reached at her home in South Carolina, his grandmother said she was grief-stricken and shocked to hear of the allegations against her grandson. “I pray. I pray. I pray,” she said, declining to give her name as she did not yet know the full details of what happened overnight Thursday and was still processing the shock. “He is good. He is so good. …Whatever happened was out of his control, I am sure.” Apparently, so is is dick. 6 kids. Well, it's hard to give the black kid death and the white kid probation. I guess an argument could be is one is a teen and the other 21. Still, the white kid go no jail time and he killed 4 people

Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 14, 2014 07:44 AM (r7mtu)

238 tsr - 196 - Same here. There are maintenance issues with our house that I am putting off, as though delaying them will help. It won't..., in fact, it may make things worse, but I can not bring myself to make the outlay when I am concerned about the future.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 14, 2014 07:44 AM (aDwsi)

239 McRINO Says He’s “Embarrassed” By Republicans Holding Up Ukraine Bill, Claims Ronald Reagan Would Be Ashamed Of Them… What a jackass. Weasel Zippers: Go home you senile bastard Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 14, 2014 11:43 AM (t3UFN) He really needs to retire.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 07:45 AM (IXrOn)

240 If only we had Mike Castle in there fighting for us.

Posted by: jwest at March 14, 2014 07:45 AM (u2a4R)

241 "McRINO Says He’s “Embarrassed” By Republicans Holding Up Ukraine Bill, Claims Ronald Reagan Would Be Ashamed Of Them…" Sounds like John's picking up a little speed on that slide into irrelevance.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 14, 2014 07:46 AM (gBnkX)

242 He really needs to retire.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 11:45 AM (IXrOn)



You're far too nice.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 07:46 AM (4df7R)

243 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 Betelgeuse! Betelgeuse! Betelgeuse!

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 14, 2014 07:46 AM (naUcP)

244 Posted by: jwest at March 14, 2014 11:45 AM (u2a4R)

First troll of the thread!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 14, 2014 07:47 AM (QFxY5)

245 McRINO Says He’s “Embarrassed” By Republicans Holding Up Ukraine Bill "DON'T TOUCH MY PUDDING!!!" "LET'S BOMB MALAWI!!!" "AMENHOTEP!!!"

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 14, 2014 07:48 AM (659DL)

246
"He is trying to figure out a way to record her saying it so he can turn it over to the state auditor or IG or whoever else handles that kind of stuff."

The state will not do a thing. Welfare fraud is so rampant it is easier for the state to ingnore the evidence than act on it.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at March 14, 2014 11:43 AM (S+FO9)


Then I should tell him to go fill out some forms himself.  Some of that EBT money is his to begin with.


Posted by: EC at March 14, 2014 07:48 AM (GQ8sn)

247 "Thanks for waking up, Peggy. Too bad you voted for the bastard." People who bitch about the shit they vote for should have the common fucking courtesy to sit down and shut up for awhile after they realize their mistake.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 14, 2014 07:48 AM (gBnkX)

248 Anybody here who's out of work, I will pay you twenty bucks to go grocery shopping for me. I hate going to the store but I need twenty pounds of potatoes and a hunk of salt pork.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 07:48 AM (oMKp3)

249 Ronald Reagan would be ashamed of all of you! He'd have bombed those f*cking Syrian Christians back to the stone age!

Posted by: John Mccain at March 14, 2014 07:48 AM (QMRMM)

250 248 Posted by: jwest at March 14, 2014 11:45 AM (u2a4R)

First troll of the thread!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 14, 2014 11:47 AM (QFxY5)


No, this is.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at March 14, 2014 07:49 AM (sOx93)

251 I thought the House passed appropriations. If we had some leadership they would say to the senate don't bother.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 14, 2014 07:49 AM (vVOWk)

252 Anybody here who's out of work, I will pay you twenty bucks to go grocery shopping for me. I hate going to the store but I need twenty pounds of potatoes and a hunk of salt pork. Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 11:48 AM (oMKp3)
Dude, I would go to the store and get you that for the nominal fee of getting a plate of whatever it is you are making.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 14, 2014 07:49 AM (VtjlW)

253 HOUSTON — Four years after the Deepwater Horizon rig explosion, BP is being welcomed back to seek new oil leases in the Gulf of Mexico.

An agreement on Thursday with the Environmental Protection Agency lifts a 2012 ban that was imposed after the agency concluded that BP had not fully corrected problems that led to the well blowout in 2010 that killed 11 rig workers, spilled millions of gallons of oil and contaminated hundreds of miles of beaches.

BP had sued to have the suspension lifted, and now the agreement will mean hundreds of millions of dollars of new business for the company. But even more important, oil analysts said, it signifies an important step in the companyÂ’s recovery from the accident, which has been costly to its finances and reputation.

“After a lengthy negotiation, BP is pleased to have reached this resolution, which we believe to be fair and reasonable,” said John Mingé, chairman and president of BP America. “Today’s agreement will allow America’s largest energy investor to compete again for federal contracts and leases.”


... Mary Landrieu was unavailable for comment

Posted by: Bernie Maddoff at March 14, 2014 07:49 AM (e8kgV)

254 Unemp. benefit downsides have to be balanced against the fact that the economy's still slow and people don't necessarily have total control over finding shit. But yeah I know, BIG GOVT BOEHNER PUSSY blah blah.

Posted by: Cleric at March 14, 2014 07:50 AM (euS+w)

255 John McCain said that he didn't believe the polls that said everyone hated him. He goes around AZ and hears such nice things. DEMENTIA. Ever heard of it, John?

Posted by: Seems legit at March 14, 2014 07:50 AM (A98Xu)

256 Colmes is just pathetic, and always makes me angry. Posted by: jwb7605 ----------------------- That is because Carney is passively defensive. Colmes aggressively promotes the party line, without conscience or remorse. Colmes would have made an excellent Commissar for Stalin...., or perhaps a quisling for Goebbels. In fact, when I see Colmes, I am reminded of Goebbels. You tell me: http://czechfolks.com/plus/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/joseph-goebbels.jpg

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 14, 2014 07:50 AM (aDwsi)

257 Bottom line - you're not going to fix unemployment or any sort of entitlement until you improve things so people have reasonable alternatives in a growing job market. THEN you can say, "get a job you deadbeat" and be justified. THIS! I just love the assholes who say "well, get another job." I tried snapping my fingers, but no job appeared. Now what? I've made lifesaving medical devices and put stuff in low Earth orbit and you expect me to be happy as a telemarketer? What a waste of my intellect. And an insult. Maybe we need some sort of instant recall of representatives after about four months in office. Unless we get something like that, how will we be able to demand accountability and responsiveness from those we elect?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 14, 2014 07:50 AM (0HooB)

258 NO, I did not even get close to passing the deadline.  I drew unemployment for 5 months.  Sales jobs do not come easily to a 55 yr. old woman.  I have over 25 yrs experience.  Companies today want to hire the younger less experienced morons with no work ethic.  That is just a fact.  Some of your comments concerning my plight are untrue and hurtful.  Do any of you honestly think I don't want to find a job?  Really?  Walk a mile in my shoes.  I'm as conservative as they come but there are some people that truly need a cushion until they get a job.  I have worked my whole life.  Don't judge me so harshly.  And, NO, CA does not get instant benefits for two years.  I live in CA and they cut me off with NOTHING to fall back on.

Posted by: Tami at March 14, 2014 07:51 AM (8bixK)

259 Feds Spend $30,410 for ‘Beauty Salon’ in Minnesota Federal Prison ‘Porcelain shampoo bowls,’ ‘Massage Tables’ The government is spending over $30,000 for “beauty salon” equipment for a women’s federal prison, an order that includes “porcelain shampoo bowls,” eight nail stations, and four massage tables. The unemployed could use this $30K. freebeacon.com

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 07:52 AM (IXrOn)

260 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 14, 2014 11:49 AM (VtjlW) You wouldn't like it, unless you are partial to gray Norwegian potato dumplings that sit like lead in your stomach for a minimum of 8 days.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 07:52 AM (oMKp3)

261

Thanks for waking up, Peggy. Too bad you voted for the bastard.

 

The unpardonable sin? 

 

I didn't vote for anyone in '08.  Only time in my voting life that I've ever opted out, but fuck Obama and fuck McCain.  But I was moved on the day after the election.  People were walking around town visibly happy.  I had a moment where I thought maybe it would be good for the country if everyone were happy for a while.  It wasn't, or it wasn't enough. 

 

So, Peggy bought into the optimism back then.  She is still one of the most eloquent writers we have, she still provides fresh insights.  She still has lessons that she learned working for Reagan. 

 

There are parts of Hordeistan where grudges never die.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 14, 2014 07:52 AM (A0sHn)

262 The House outdoes Obama and has voted to delay Obamacide by a decade.


http://tinyurl.com/krv2u2c

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 14, 2014 07:53 AM (T2V/1)

263 Colmes aggressively promotes the party line, without conscience or remorse. Have we mentioned that he is just a regular run-of-the-mill ignoramus? Infections. Cause. Down's. Syndrome. Remember that one?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 14, 2014 07:53 AM (659DL)

264

Posted by: non-purist at March 14, 2014 11:33 AM (afQnV)

>>>Economic literacy and understanding of the role of government in a *successful* free economy - these are not universally strong points among "conservative" types, even wingnuts like many around here.<<<

 

enlighten me.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 14, 2014 07:53 AM (3yFC4)

265

... they never seem to have any trouble finding turncoats?   Well, correct me if I'm wrong here, but are you trying to say in as many words that THE MFKN GAME IS RIGGED?  Shocka.

Posted by: Todd Bridges, first to go bad, last to go down at March 14, 2014 07:53 AM (HWgnC)

266 Speaking of patriots:

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) was caught on a hot mic Thursday telling Secretary of State John Kerry to let him know how he could “help” with House Speaker John Boehner.

Well, Boner John is a Reich-wing nutjob so someone has to lead him back to the center.

From the Blaze.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 14, 2014 07:54 AM (XUKZU)

267 Ace up

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 14, 2014 07:54 AM (T2V/1)

268 I live in CA and they cut me off with NOTHING to fall back on. Posted by: Tami at March 14, 2014 11:51 AM (8bixK) There's lots of subsidizing in Cali. You can get a break on your phone, and your rent, for example. I know someone who did. In NY, I know you can get a break on your energy costs, housing, etc.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 14, 2014 07:55 AM (IXrOn)

269 Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 14, 2014 11:44 AM (aDwsi) At least in my case the delay is a new driveway (which only gets easier to remove as it turns to gravel) and some other stuff that's not really "necessary" repairs and won't get worse. We pulled together the money to have the drainage problem in the side yard addressed (at least we hope it fixes it, they're going to put in a catch basin and throw a bunch of the water past the house, and fix the swale).

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 14, 2014 07:55 AM (HDwDg)

270 *what do you do when there is no work?* Flood the labor market with 20 million illegals,duh.

Posted by: Paul Ryan at March 14, 2014 07:56 AM (d4qrU)

271 271 Ace up Posted by: Vic ----------------- Hit me..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 14, 2014 07:56 AM (aDwsi)

272 "She is still one of the most eloquent writers we have, she still provides fresh insights. She still has lessons that she learned working for Reagan. There are parts of Hordeistan where grudges never die." So it's a grudge if someone disagrees with your assessment of her insights? If someone fails to respect her intellectually because she's a reliable Democrat voter who bitches about the foreseeable results of her voting patters? Try again.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 14, 2014 07:56 AM (gBnkX)

273

Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 11:48 AM (oMKp3)

 

do you live in NoVA? I'd be over in a flash.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 14, 2014 07:56 AM (3yFC4)

274
Maybe Boehner will retaliate against those RINOS consistently voting with the Donks by threatening a loss of committee assignments and pork opportunities.

And maybe I'm a Chinese jet pilot.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 14, 2014 07:57 AM (TIIx5)

275 Basically what I'm getting out of this thread is that nobody should be expected to do anything new or different or difficult or unpleasant to care for themselves...except the people getting tax-farmed to give checks to the first group.

And this is the conservative view.

Posted by: HR at March 14, 2014 07:57 AM (ZKzrr)

276
It should be well known that the Leftists are going to play nothing but the "Economic Justice" card.  Yes, the repubs might want to point out the past effect of those policies.

but they are dumbasses and will instead allow leftism to advance because they don't want to be called uncaring.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 14, 2014 07:57 AM (gorVZ)

277 New thread, and Ace, are up.

Posted by: Bayou City at March 14, 2014 07:58 AM (8yWf/)

278 277 Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 11:48 AM (oMKp3) do you live in NoVA? I'd be over in a flash. Posted by: rich@gmu at March 14, 2014 11:56 AM (3yFC4) Sadly, no. I am in Scandi Land Wisconsin, but you are always welcome at my table should you want to make the trip.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 07:58 AM (oMKp3)

279 >>What do you do when there's no work out there? Posted by: grammie winger go to where the jobs are.

Posted by: X at March 14, 2014 07:59 AM (KHo8t)

280 Posted by: Tami at March 14, 2014 11:51 AM (8bixK) I understand; I hate these circular firing squads here. My spouse is 60. They were a Systems analyst downsized during Obama's first glorious reign. I can't even tell you how many applications they filled out. They even had a head hunter. Nothing. because nobody wanted to hire someone in their middle 50s. They were given a severance package of some money but not enough to last for five years Was on UE for a very short time and finally took a job making a quarter of what they made before because they couldn't stand being unemployed. It's VERY hard out there and nobody in in a position of judging. I wish you well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2014 08:00 AM (XyM/Y)

281 So, Peggy bought into the optimism back then. She is still one of the most eloquent writers we have, she still provides fresh insights. She still has lessons that she learned working for Reagan.

There are parts of Hordeistan where grudges never die.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 14, 2014 11:52 AM (A0sHn)



I agree,  Noonan is very eloquent.    She should also have been smart enough to see through the thin veneer of lies and   obvious deism that accompanied  Obammy's   2008   run.    There   is  no value in happiness    just   for the sake of  happiness.   Happiness comes from doing the right thing,   and   that does not include    electing an obvious    corruptocrat   to the Presidency   just because his skin tone is darker than   Dubya's.       If Peggy wasn't smart enough to figure out that Obammy was a snake oil salesman from the start then I feel no particular need to forgive her for her stupidity.    Doesn't mean I can't appreciate her columns, but it does mean they hold far less weight for me now than they did before.



Actions have consequences.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 14, 2014 08:01 AM (4df7R)

282 You wouldn't like it, unless you are partial to gray Norwegian potato dumplings that sit like lead in your stomach for a minimum of 8 days. Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 11:52 AM (oMKp3) You had me at Norwegian.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 14, 2014 08:01 AM (VtjlW)

283

The sister approached my stepson recently and offered to sell him her EBT card for X dollars. He is trying to figure out a way to record her saying it so he can turn it over to the state auditor or IG or whoever else handles that kind of stuff.

 

Who will then do jack shit.  And the governor of your state will decry EBT fraud as "anecdotal."

Just like Deval "Mini Me" Patrick here in Masshole-achusetts.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2014 08:03 AM (zF6Iw)

284 Circa, communications strategy?  Making friends?  "Persuading"?  Um, was not attempting any of those, really.  Just making a mundane observation that right here in this comment thread a minimally observant person can see how economic illiteracy and the default to emotional/self-dealing/short-sighted responses are nearly universal - certainly far too widespread and established to fight directly. 

Posted by: non-purist at March 14, 2014 08:04 AM (afQnV)

285 GOP wants a bigger Big Tent. Donks want a bigger Safety Net. Hmmmm. Ya know what this circus needs....?

Posted by: Barky McFuckStick's Clown Car Full of Stupid at March 14, 2014 08:06 AM (2oU2+)

286

McRINO Says He’s “Embarrassed” By Republicans Holding Up Ukraine Bill, Claims Ronald Reagan Would Be Ashamed Of Them…



What a jackass.

Weasel Zippers:

Go home you senile bastard

 

Zombie Ronald Reagan to McCain:  Eat a bag of drippy horse dicks.  For the Gipper.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2014 08:06 AM (zF6Iw)

287 Great job, the issue was deader than a doornail and now it's been revived.

I actually think the Democrats miscalculated the politics on this issue, I don't think 99 weeks of unemployment is a big winner at the ballot box. 

And yes, the economy sucks, but the reason why the politicians responsible for this economy get away with it is because of benefits like this.  It's become a little vacation for many people.  It's amazing how quickly people find a job when the last unemployment check comes.

I honestly believe had House Republicans stopped it as soon as they won back the House in 2010, it would have hurt Democrats far more than Republicans.  It's a one week story and then people who need a job stop focusing on Washington politics.  A person on unemployment is usually not in a very "Republican" state of mind.

Posted by: McAdams at March 14, 2014 08:08 AM (LTvGP)

288

HR @279, ahemm.  What I was getting at in my two comments. 

Ya know what?  Those who can demonstrate severe structural disadvantage - like the laid-off mid-50s IT people who bust their butt yet cannot get re-hired - maybe they should be eligible for specific benefits, after amply documenting their situation.  That's a compelling situation - and a small portion of the caseload overall.  The perverse incentives and social/economic damage of the current out-of-control system are huge, and relate to the average situation, not the exceptional.

 

Posted by: non-purist at March 14, 2014 08:10 AM (afQnV)

289

Posted by: HR at March 14, 2014 11:57 AM (ZKzrr)

 

yeah shitdick because working the shit hours in the small hours of the morning and making dean's list at school (an rewarded with a rif for the effort) is not taking a risk.

 

lucky you that you have all the answers. can i subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 14, 2014 08:11 AM (3yFC4)

290 and rewarded...

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 14, 2014 08:12 AM (3yFC4)

291 Unemp. benefit downsides have to be balanced against the fact that the economy's still slow and people don't necessarily have total control over finding shit. But yeah I know, BIG GOVT BOEHNER PUSSY blah blah.

 

Posted by: Cleric at March 14, 2014 11:50 AM (euS+w)

 

Next time, read the thread before posting.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2014 08:12 AM (zF6Iw)

292

Posted by: grammie winger at March 14, 2014 11:58 AM (oMKp3)

 

many thanks. probably won't make it to the Wisconsin anytime soon however.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 14, 2014 08:14 AM (3yFC4)

293

McAdams you touch on an absolutely central (political) point.  One reason our current socio-economic-governance debacle has been "sustainable" is precisely the ocean of money flowing to soften the blow.  Yes the electorate/society has changed a lot (for the worse, almost without exception) since the late 70s, but still, the disastrous economic situation we've been in would have guaranteed a bloodbath for incumbents, and a Jimmy Carter experience for the incumbent president, without the "political safety net" that cushions the horrible economic suffering (almost all of it avoidable) brought on by idiotic policies.

 

JackStraw has commented consistently on how he hopes/expects the roll-out of O-care to cause a Dem bloodbath.  Just focusing on the mechanics of that, the runaway welfare state (no other word for it - those who studied these issues 30 years ago can scarcely believe the extent and cost of all these systems that have exploded in the last few years), all these "benefits" surely have prevented a political reckoning, to some extent.  And of course the opera bouffe of O-care delays and administrative legislatin' is a starkly clear example of the same thing.

 

Posted by: non-purist at March 14, 2014 08:16 AM (afQnV)

294 F**k you Heller. F**k you.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 14, 2014 08:17 AM (XvHmy)

295 For me the frustrating thing about all this is that everyone involve knows its best if the benefits have a finite duration, so no one comes to depend or rely on them. But they also know that politically keeping them going forever is better for them all politically.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2014 08:19 AM (zfY+H)

296

So, Peggy bought into the optimism back then. She is still one of the most eloquent writers we have, she still provides fresh insights. She still has lessons that she learned working for Reagan.


There are parts of Hordeistan where grudges never die.

 

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 14, 2014 11:52 AM (A0sHn)

Oh, fuck that "optimism."  Noonan was a fucking self-blinded elitist  bitch who creamed her panties at being able to prove she wasn't a bigot.  Everything this jug-eared, dog-eating crackhead was or would do was obvious to anyone who took even the most casual look at his record.  She ignored it because she's a goddamn clown.  And her "eloquence" is warmed-over platitudes.  Reagan would be ashamed of her.

 

AFAIC, if you voted for Obama, your electoral rights should be stripped from you for the rest of your life.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2014 08:22 AM (zF6Iw)

297 Dude, I would go to the store and get you that for the nominal fee of getting a plate of whatever it is you are making.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 14, 2014 11:49 AM (VtjlW)


Alex, your speedy fingers are getting the way of me getting some food. Type. Slower. It's easy. Watch me do it.

...

See?

Posted by: physics geek at March 14, 2014 08:22 AM (MT22W)

298 We're all Socialists now.

Posted by: Richard Nixon at March 14, 2014 08:23 AM (JQuNB)

299 AFAIC, if you voted for Obama, your electoral rights should be stripped from you for the rest of your life.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2014 12:22 PM (zF6Iw)


I see that I'm not the only person who has to fight the urge to force cars into a tree if said cars are sporting an Obama bumpersticker.

Posted by: physics geek at March 14, 2014 08:24 AM (MT22W)

300 Trying being in a supermarket parking lot that has a car with both an Obama 2008 and 2012 sticker as well as a "I love Obamacare" sticker on it. I pray a lot. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2014 08:27 AM (XyM/Y)

301 This jackass who ran all those people over, did he think it was going to be like in the movies? Everyone jumping out of the way? I just can't imagine anyone so drunk that they didn't know what they were doing.

Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 14, 2014 08:30 AM (r7mtu)

302

Said it before ... will say it again.

 

Threads like this justify the instinctive mistrust some people carry for the GOP.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 14, 2014 08:47 AM (C9oSS)

303 I repeatedly tell my friends that the GOP is not their friend. How many times does this sheet have to happen before they get it?

Posted by: Pelosi Schmelosi at March 14, 2014 08:55 AM (jHf6U)

304 305 This jackass who ran all those people over, did he think it was going to be like in the movies?

Driver: Yolo Thug Life

SXSW Crowd: Mostly young white urban hipsters

you do the math.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 14, 2014 08:56 AM (q+fqH)

305 300 Oh, fuck that "optimism." Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2014 12:22 PM (zF6Iw) Great rant.

Posted by: rickl at March 14, 2014 09:08 AM (zoehZ)

306 "On Day 1, you march your ass to Micky D's"

round these parts, if you don't habla espanol perfectamundo, you can forget about your cracker ass slinging fries.

even if you do habla, chances are they will hire more of the tribe, and not you, pinche gabacho puto.

but thanks for the pro-tip!

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 14, 2014 09:10 AM (q+fqH)

307 McDonald's has multiple interviews now for hiring. Its an employer's market out there, they are not taking just anyone any more.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2014 10:47 AM (zfY+H)

308 More and more mid level restaurants with middle-aged waiters -service is fantastic, so why do I feel so bad?

Posted by: fiona at March 15, 2014 05:40 PM (UaqQz)

Hide Comments | Add Comment | Refresh | Top

Comments are disabled. Post is locked.
256kb generated in CPU 0.1708, elapsed 0.3245 seconds.
64 queries taking 0.2435 seconds, 436 records returned.
Powered by Minx 1.1.6c-pink.

Support





Donate to Ace of Spades HQ!


Contact

Change the At to "@" and the DOT to "."




Intermarkets' Privacy Policy
Support


Donate to Ace of Spades HQ!


Search Thingy



Archives

Monthly Traffic

  • Pages: 96530
  • Files: 474
  • Bytes: 3.2G
  • CPU Time: 180:08
  • Queries: 3692967

Content

  • Posts: 22824
  • Comments: 5953260

Feeds


RSS 2.0 Atom 1.0