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July 09, 2013

Good News: The Future is Still Happening
Bad News: It's Happening in China
— Ace

I like arcologies, or at least the idea of them.

Via Hot Air, this building in Chengdu, China is very large. Not quite an arcology like you see in sci-fi books, but still the world's largest building. (Not tallest -- it's got a very big footprint.)

If you can get past the Engrish and the clawhammer-subtle Red Chinese Triumphalism (the narrator is trying a bit too hard to sell the message that "China has arrived!!11!!"), the below video gets interesting between 4:40 and 8:00.

Thomas Friedman just nutted.

I think that as far as politics, this project and should be faulted for of course being yet another gigantic project undertaken by a China determined to harness the power of government into catapulting it into First World status. They're going about it wrong, of course.

We don't really build big things too often any more. Maybe it's that we've matured as a culture and don't need to. Maybe it's because the government, often a necessary partner or prime actor in big civil engineering programs, is simply too corrupt and inept to be trusted with anything complicated.

But yet... a culture's energy is reflected in these sorts of major projects. From the 1880s to 1930s, America had a lot of cultural energy. Now, not so much.

Now you see big projects being built, but they're always in China or fficial&channel=fflb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=4pHcUejEJNOy4AOU5YDYAg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1058&bih=535">Dubai or whatever. Oh sure, we throw one up every once in a while, but nothing that really excites me. Nothing that says "Here's the future, kiddo."

(Although in fairness, the 8 Spruce Street building has a Public School inside of it, so it does have one feature of an arcology.)

It should be noted that China is also pouring billions into building enormous ghost cities where no one has ever lived (and no one lives at the present). So Thomas Friedman's notion that an Authoritarian Empowered Government is the Answer We've Been Looking for is wrong.

But putting aside who builds such thing -- someone ought to build them.

Posted by: Ace at 02:52 PM | Comments (268)
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1 How many people are going to live in that? Look at all those ghost cities. They are actually pretty nice looking and well built neighbourhoods, but they're empty. Why is that?

Posted by: EC at July 09, 2013 02:54 PM (doBIb)

2 Foist?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 09, 2013 02:54 PM (0HooB)

3 Meh. Still can't top internet porn.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at July 09, 2013 02:54 PM (ZETiK)

Shazbot!

That sorta looks like Elysium, the new movie with MATT DAMON!!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at July 09, 2013 02:55 PM (0HooB)

5 Arcologies make a lot of sense for the MegaCorps but I don't think I could cope.

That said evidently the international left thinks I should have to cope or else.

Agenda 21 for the loss.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 09, 2013 02:55 PM (LRFds)

6 I am the future

Posted by: george jetson at July 09, 2013 02:55 PM (V+Pei)

7 Its ok to build something big if there is a purpose other than to say 'look we built something really big'.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 09, 2013 02:55 PM (/tUlE)

8 What is the over under in weeks before this thing falls down?

25

Posted by: jukin at July 09, 2013 02:56 PM (WGm5T)

9 I give it two weeks before block wars break out like in Judge Dredd.

#twoweeks

Posted by: EC at July 09, 2013 02:56 PM (doBIb)

10
China, believe it or not, is also doing a lot of ;large humanitarian projects in Africa, as in infrastructure. For example, they built a friggin highway in Ethiopia that nobody hardly uses. It is Ethiopia, after all. I was quite surprised when I learned that.

Posted by: soothsayer at July 09, 2013 02:56 PM (Fely/)

11 8 Junkin,

heh "yeah" and that's the other thing, these arcologies take a massive amount of resources and if you fuck up materials engineering, structural engineering, or HVAC dynamics you get to have an implosion.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 09, 2013 02:57 PM (LRFds)

12 But yet... a culture's energy is reflected in these sorts of major projects. From the 1880s to 1930s, America had a lot of cultural energy. Now, not so much. -------------- You know who had a lot of cultural energy? The Soviets during the Purges who built the Trans-Siberian railroad. Well, until they starved or froze to death.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 09, 2013 02:57 PM (YygV/)

13 Arcologies are the fatal conceit of the vision of the anointed, writ small-ish. I'd throw more book titles in there, but I've just started drinking . . .

Posted by: filbert at July 09, 2013 02:58 PM (7vimm)

14 China also built the Three Gorges Dam. In the process, they fucked up the ecological balance of the surrounding countryside permanently.

Posted by: EC at July 09, 2013 02:59 PM (doBIb)

15 10 Soothsayer,

The Chinese are very slowly setting up an economic empire. The leftoids in this nation prevent the Africans from being incentivized by American wealth into growing out of brushfire wars. Prosperity is probably the only way for the tribalism to be channeled to less theatrical outbursts.

Thank God their economic and martial purity of non-intervention like some fuckheaded prime directive endures.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 09, 2013 03:00 PM (LRFds)

16 Ace is a Judge Dredd fan. Of course he likes the idea of arcologies. Can't toss a bitch off the 200th floor unless you have 200 floors. Saw that last night, btw. Awesome.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 09, 2013 03:00 PM (YygV/)

17 I appreciate your stance on this, Ace.

Posted by: Larry Craig at July 09, 2013 03:00 PM (WSC6V)

Didn't the Canadians have a ridiculously huge mall at one point that ultimately ended up flopping and being shut down? This strikes me as the same sort of thing. We'll see if it works out.

And as far as arcologies are concerned...

I think Hong Kong had the first (and thus far only) arcology - Kowloon Walled City.

http://tinyurl.com/yxnzll

Posted by: junior at July 09, 2013 03:00 PM (UWFpX)

19 >>>Its ok to build something big if there is a purpose other than to say 'look we built something really big'.

right.

in this case I think the purpose is to create a resort destination in a place which has no other claim as a resort.

For example, you could put one of these up in icy-cold Minnesota, out in some farmland you buy for relatively cheap, and now people have a reason to visit minnesota in the winter. "Ocean," waterslides, Mediterranean village shopping, etc. Whatever.

I mean, ultimately, they'll make an enclosed golf course. But that'll be in China too.

Posted by: ace at July 09, 2013 03:00 PM (/IWYB)

20 I assume they will be using the moldy/asbestos-laden wallboard?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 09, 2013 03:01 PM (+98Gb)

21 Who cares? Anyone can build a new building. In this country, we produce the things that REALLY matter ... like the new TV show "Social Media Stars". We also do a great job making celebrities out of every two-bit douchebag like Paris Hilton, the Kardashians, The Situation, etc.

Posted by: Slappy at July 09, 2013 03:01 PM (LTbLf)

22 Nice try China, we're getting a moon park!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at July 09, 2013 03:01 PM (+lsX1)

23 12 Empire of Jeff,

Quite. Flagrant displays of conspicuous greatness are on noble if the people doing them are treated nobly.

You give me license to Dance it Stalin Style with worker relations I can do magic tricks too.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 09, 2013 03:01 PM (LRFds)

24 Hey we're like doubling the size of the Mall of America. Come visit us.

Posted by: Minnesota Tourism Board at July 09, 2013 03:01 PM (qo244)

25 It's all fun and games until the power fails.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 09, 2013 03:01 PM (xvZYu)

26 For example, they built a friggin highway in Ethiopia that nobody hardly uses. It is Ethiopia, after all. I was quite surprised when I learned that.

That's for the invasion and to remove the resources.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 09, 2013 03:02 PM (/tUlE)

27 I see the roof is high enough to base jump from. That's kinda cool.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 03:02 PM (/gHaE)

28 you know we kill people that fuck up here, might wanna try that in usa

Posted by: china inspector general at July 09, 2013 03:03 PM (V+Pei)

29 What's the old line? Chemical engineers build weapons while civil engineers build targets?

There's a reason not to concentrate your operations in arcologies.

Posted by: The UFO from Simcity 3 at July 09, 2013 03:03 PM (hO9ad)

30 Hi. The thing is, it doesn't work if the impulse isn't organic. That's a problem for the Chinese. None of their grandiose impulses these days seem to be organic. They are a product of trying to read the minds of the people they want to admire them. They are basically propaganda.

Posted by: Mr Pee Pee at July 09, 2013 03:03 PM (DrC22)

31 26 Guy Mohawk,

The Chinese will either prove they are more willful than we are, or suffer their next Vietnam in Africa when the locals slaughter them.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 09, 2013 03:03 PM (LRFds)

It's all fun and games until the power fails.

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A place that big had better have its own nuclear reactor...

Posted by: junior at July 09, 2013 03:03 PM (UWFpX)

Ace, have you ever read Caro's book about Robert Moses, "The Power Broker"?

Caro is by no means a small-government conservative type, but what he wrote stands strongly against all this Friedman-style grotesquerie.

Posted by: RamonAllones at July 09, 2013 03:03 PM (2/63a)

34

Look, we all know the President is hard at work and stuff.

He is studying hard for his tests! I mean, FOR GOS SAKE PEOPLE!!!

JOBS JOBS JOBS is what's important here! A three letter word. JOBS.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Commissar at July 09, 2013 03:03 PM (HQml1)

>>> in this case I think the purpose is to create a resort destination in a place which has no other claim as a resort.

I don't care how big the place is, it'll be a Sausagefest.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2013 03:03 PM (WSC6V)

36 Other good news: Conceal Carry is now a "thing" in Illinois. I believe it's a shall-issue state now?

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 09, 2013 03:04 PM (X4HxX)

37 Bet that thing echos like a MFer.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 09, 2013 03:04 PM (BAS5M)

38 27 Purp,

You bet ya!

//Morsi coming soon with new improved HANO action

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 09, 2013 03:04 PM (LRFds)

39 Chinpokomon Executive: You are American. South Park Toy Store Owner: Yes. Chinpokomon Executive: Ohhh, you must have very big penis! South Park Toy Store Owner: Excuse me, I was just asking you what your up to with these toys. Chinpokomon Executive: Nothing, we are very simple people with very small penis. Mr. Hosik's penis is especially small! Mr. Hosik: So small. Chinpokomon Executive: We cannot achieve so much with such small penis, but you American wow, penis so big, so big penis! South Park Toy Store Owner: Well aah I guess it is pretty good size. Read more tv spoilers at: http://www.tvfanatic.com/quotes/shows/south-park/episodes/chinpokomon/#ixzz2YanINuJp

Posted by: wooga at July 09, 2013 03:04 PM (Co5Zi)

40 The Chinese have always done big shit...like building walls visible from space.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 03:05 PM (/gHaE)

41 Video needs more adjectives. They aren't quite a 1:1 ratio with the other words.

Posted by: UWP at July 09, 2013 03:05 PM (r98SZ)

42 arcologies -- space habitat
It's the economies of the thing. Planet side, why are there cities?
In space, there has to be something to exploit, some way to make money.
Why are there big buildings? They don't just happen.

Hong Kong is what it is because there was money to be made there, and very little land. Good harbor, shelter for maritime trade vessels, and product to transport.

This big building in China is going to be the domain of 'special people' , i.e. government people, party people. It's like a big gated community. It will be like the old Imperial Holy City of the old Emperors of China.

Or maybe it's nothing. Just another Imperial Order from the Central Committee; build a bridge, build a dam, build a space station, build something to keep the peasants employed.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 09, 2013 03:05 PM (Mcfue)

43 35

I don't care how big the place is, it'll be a Sausagefest.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2013 07:03 PM (WSC6V)

You don't say?!?

Posted by: Barney Frank at July 09, 2013 03:05 PM (LTbLf)

44 So what does it take to be on the HOA for one of those things? Party membership and about a thousand hookers, right? Gotta keep the riff-raff out.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 09, 2013 03:05 PM (A0glY)

45 Wonder what the carbon footprint is of that project

Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2013 03:05 PM (5H6zj)

46 Meh, Now, if the New Century Global Centre were orbiting the Earth or built on the Moon I'm impressed in a Future Has Arrived kind of way. But that, that right there in the video, all that makes me think is "Wow, somebody built a bigger, more energy inefficient Galleria." In that case, the Future Arrived on November 16, 1970.

Posted by: Somewhat Sorry To Offend You at July 09, 2013 03:06 PM (n50fF)

47 they are gonna need a lot of bathrooms, their own police station and a clinic

Posted by: thunderb at July 09, 2013 03:06 PM (zOTsN)

>>> ...like building walls visible from space.

How come every time a Chinaman build a wall a fucking Mongorian knock it down?

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2013 03:07 PM (WSC6V)

49 new improved HANO action

The Scots got the highland games and caber toss, the Egyptians got the same thing, only the caber is some dude and he's tossed off a roof

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 03:07 PM (/gHaE)

50 Did Organizing for America make that video?

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 09, 2013 03:07 PM (v1mq9)

51 Apparently they do shit the hard way. According to the video, they first build it in the ocean, then either move it from the ocean or drain the ocean and build the city around it. Can't tell which.

Posted by: UWP at July 09, 2013 03:07 PM (r98SZ)

52 48 We should've reamed their fucking asses back in '52.

Posted by: Mr. Paul Anka at July 09, 2013 07:06 PM (Ks4nX)

You don't say?!?

Posted by: Barney Frank at July 09, 2013 03:08 PM (LTbLf)

53 50 Purp,

Your rebuttal siirrrrrrrrr thud

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 09, 2013 03:08 PM (LRFds)

54 The Chinese have always done big shit...like building walls visible from space.

It's nice you Americans aren't into that sort of thing.

Posted by: Future democrat still in Mexico at July 09, 2013 03:08 PM (hO9ad)

55 Now Ace is an architect?
Yeah. Sure.

Posted by: george costanza at July 09, 2013 03:08 PM (Adm3q)

56 Think how many jobs will be created when this giant Chinese building collapses. Everything from emergency medical services to concrete recyclers!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at July 09, 2013 03:08 PM (+lsX1)

57 When they build that thing, we should set off a sonic boom nearby. Just because we can. Plus, broken window right Tom F?

Posted by: bonhomme at July 09, 2013 03:09 PM (QehQP)

58 Looks like an enormous waste of money, but at least in pissing away their nation's wealth to politically favored cronies, they'll have something to show for it. We don't even bother with the cool project pretense anymore.

Posted by: mugiwara at July 09, 2013 03:09 PM (hpYnL)

I was born in 1985.

SciFi movies from the 50s would have insinuated I was conceived in a flying car and birthed on Mars.

Where are the flying cars?

AND WHY THE FUCK AREN'T WE ON MARS?

Posted by: CAC at July 09, 2013 03:09 PM (/7B3U)

60 must be a pauly shore comeback vehicle here somehow

Posted by: mtv at July 09, 2013 03:10 PM (V+Pei)

61 This big building in China is going to be the domain of 'special people' , i.e. government people, party people. It's like a big gated community. It will be like the old Imperial Holy City of the old Emperors of China.

Which puts it at the top of anyone's nuclear first strike list.

Posted by: Kim Jong something or other at July 09, 2013 03:10 PM (hO9ad)

62 Who TOLD them the wall was visible from space? Oh thats right. We did. Because we went there and looked.

Posted by: UWP at July 09, 2013 03:10 PM (r98SZ)

63 Lifelike pleasure-bots = THE FUTURE This is a bigger mall. Even the Japanese had an enclosed beach in a building years ago. This is that, with two hotels and some other shit added on. Now, if you could buy pleasure-bots in this mall, then youve got something.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 09, 2013 03:10 PM (YygV/)

64 "Wow, somebody built a bigger, more energy inefficient Galleria."

In that case, the Future Arrived on November 16, 1970.>>

Pffft The Southdale indoor mall opened in 1956.

Posted by: Minnesota Tourism Board at July 09, 2013 03:10 PM (qo244)

65 Never understood the point actually. Yea the one in Oath of Fealty was cool but most of the success in the story was because it was a Libertarian 'Utopia' thing. And if you could get a State to give you that sort of State within a State autonomy for a single big honking building you could probably get the same thing for a small gated community/city and achieve most of the benefits without living like ants.

Shorter version, the attraction is getting the failed Blue model off your back, not the idea of living and working in a single building.

The stories arose as the idea of a new frontier in space died and authors looked for a way to create new worlds here.

Posted by: John Morris at July 09, 2013 03:11 PM (OMT3n)

66 If you don't live in DC, manhattan or LA, you're a fucking asshole hick and don't deserve shit. Women's health, you morons. Thus, we have a moral mandate to tax your fat fucking ass out of existence you fuckwad walmart shoptards.

Posted by: No h8 in my st8. at July 09, 2013 03:11 PM (hemD9)

67 Shep claiming to be breaking: NE TE admits to firing fatal shots.

Posted by: Methos at July 09, 2013 03:11 PM (hO9ad)

68 Big ass building for three tenants.

Posted by: RWC at July 09, 2013 03:11 PM (8FeS+)

69 SIREN: Elisabeth Hasselbeck to co-host FOX & Friends; joins Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade in mid-Sept.--Gretchen Carlson gets daytime hour

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 03:12 PM (8sCoq)

70 It would be so much easier to be the president of China.

Posted by: BuhRock O-bah-muhh at July 09, 2013 03:12 PM (nbGZj)

71 Does China have Doritos Locos Tacos? No? It doesn't?

Then let's stop pretending that China will overtake American technological supremacy anytime soon.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 09, 2013 03:12 PM (8ZskC)

72 gotta buy a lot of carbon offsets for a building that big

Posted by: thunderb at July 09, 2013 03:12 PM (zOTsN)

73 60

AND WHY THE FUCK AREN'T WE ON MARS?

Posted by: CAC at July 09, 2013 07:09 PM (/7B3U)

Exactly. I risked my life to give the people on Mars air for a reason.

Posted by: Arnold "Quaid/Hauser" Schwarzenegger at July 09, 2013 03:13 PM (LTbLf)

74 SIREN: Elisabeth Hasselbeck to co-host FOX Friends; joins Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade in mid-Sept.--Gretchen Carlson gets daytime hour *** I'm gonna guess it's one of Megyn Kelly's hours.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 09, 2013 03:13 PM (jjvz+)

>>>I was born in 1985.

Get off the lawn.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2013 03:13 PM (WSC6V)

76 30 years from now people will look at that ad think WTF were they thinking building such an ugly POS.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 09, 2013 03:13 PM (HDgX3)

77 in this case I think the purpose is to create a resort destination in a place which has no other claim as a resort.

Chengdu is the grimy, industrial Gateway to Tibet, FWIW.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 09, 2013 03:13 PM (8ZskC)

78 Just eyeballing that thing it looks like it is about 300 cubits by 50 cubits by 30 cubits. Maybe it is an arcology after all.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 09, 2013 03:14 PM (JZA60)

79 Big is not better. I look at all these celebrity homes that are ginormous. They are usually bought by these assholes from these commie or ex-commie countries. The houses look like large hotels. If you want to live in a hotel, book one. Or, many have entire penthouses that you can book forever.

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 03:14 PM (vDjkK)

80 Oh, it's a CG video. I'll see if I can get out of my contract for the suite on the city on a cruise ship project.

Posted by: RWC at July 09, 2013 03:14 PM (8FeS+)

81 >I'm gonna guess it's one of Megyn Kelly's hours.

the big Q is: whose nighttime hour does Megyn get?

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 03:15 PM (8sCoq)

82 I cannot believe there's a Gehry building I don't instantly hate.

I. I have to go lie down now.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at July 09, 2013 03:15 PM (Gk3SS)

16 Ace is a Judge Dredd fan. Saw that last night, btw. Awesome.

You talking about Judge Dredd (Stallone) or Dredd (not Stallone)?

Posted by: Anachronda at July 09, 2013 03:15 PM (IrbU4)

84 Kiss our ass, China! That's right. We were there first! http://www.greatwolf.com

Posted by: Great Wolf Lodge at July 09, 2013 03:15 PM (n50fF)

85 I hear there's a creepy statue of an ancient warlord in the middle of this monstrosity. Here's what it looks like : http://tinyurl.com/ka7fkog

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 09, 2013 03:15 PM (v1mq9)

Probably want to lease, not buy your Pleasurebot, EoJ.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2013 03:15 PM (WSC6V)

87 In 20 years the entire place will be dedicated to selling knock-off Rolexes and Mao cigarette lighters that play The East Is Red when you open the top.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 09, 2013 03:16 PM (8ZskC)

88 there wuz a big mall north of Yonkers by 1957. Big f*ckin' place

and Seven Corners; can't overlook Seven Corners, circa 1961

used to go there in Summer to look at girls in shorts; life was simple but good

Posted by: Wayne from Fort Wayne at July 09, 2013 03:16 PM (omBWL)

89 60
I was born in 1985.

Posted by: CAC at July 09, 2013 07:09 PM (/7B3U)

Pull up your pants!

Posted by: Denis Leary at July 09, 2013 03:16 PM (LTbLf)

90 Reminds me of the Biosphere 2 project: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2

Posted by: Tesh at July 09, 2013 03:17 PM (cnjni)

In 20 years the entire place will be dedicated to selling knock-off Rolexes and Mao cigarette lighters that play The East Is Red when you open the top.

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Think they'll go the Nork route, and employ people to walk in and out of the shops all day long?

Posted by: junior at July 09, 2013 03:17 PM (UWFpX)

92 This is a hotel - not a home: http://goo.gl/N4PIi And what are those cabana like structures around the pool? You can't change in them. They have beds. Are they for fucking? Naked massaging? Where is that cabana boy who use to post here?

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 03:17 PM (vDjkK)

93 You talking about Judge Dredd (Stallone) or Dredd (not Stallone)? Posted by: Anachronda at July 09, 2013 07:15 PM (IrbU4) ---------------- The one with Karl Urban as Dredd, not that other shit show.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 09, 2013 03:17 PM (YygV/)

94 NE TE admits to firing fatal shots.

What did that guy say?

Posted by: bonhomme at July 09, 2013 03:17 PM (QehQP)

Well, that's nice and all.

But in Los Angeles, we built a fucking millipede-like transport to move a massive boulder through 135 miles of suburban Los Angeles and dangled it over a concrete trench.

That's real accomplishment.

That's art.

This is a glass canyon with a shitty roof.

Posted by: CAC at July 09, 2013 03:18 PM (/7B3U)

96 Does it have a Costco, six buffets and a Dollar Store? It won't survive without those.

Posted by: Max Entropy at July 09, 2013 03:18 PM (TkEDL)

60 AND WHY THE FUCK AREN'T WE ON MARS?

Maybe we are and everyone has been lying to you.

Posted by: Anachronda occasionally gets Deep Thoughts at July 09, 2013 03:19 PM (FzhYM)

98 Oh, hey, so I'm watching an ep of Ancient Aliens, as one does, and the Big Fucking Rock is currently being shown.

For some odd reason, I want to blaze up and go visit other dimensions now.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at July 09, 2013 03:19 PM (Gk3SS)

99 Riiight. What's a 'cubit'?

Posted by: noah cosby at July 09, 2013 03:19 PM (Adm3q)

100 We don't even bother with the cool project pretense anymore.

$3.2T in "stimulus" spending since Obama took office and we don't even got a lemonade stand to show for it.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 03:19 PM (/gHaE)

101 And WTF is a "meter". Speak American!

Posted by: UWP at July 09, 2013 03:19 PM (r98SZ)

102 Its ok to build something big if there is a purpose other than to say 'look we built something really big

We don't see the problem.

Posted by: Tsar Bell, Tsar Cannon, Tsar Bomba at July 09, 2013 03:19 PM (6TB1Z)

103 "DREDD" was all kinds of awesome. Esp. in 3D in a theater with a great sound system. That is all.

Posted by: Somewhat Sorry To Offend You at July 09, 2013 03:20 PM (n50fF)

104 The future is happening at this place in China? I had better get my Dippin' Dots franchise set up there, hadn't I?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 09, 2013 03:20 PM (BAS5M)

105 Posted by: CAC at July 09, 2013 07:18 PM (/7B3U)

I am officially freaked out now.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at July 09, 2013 03:20 PM (Gk3SS)

106 It will be falling apart in less than a year.

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at July 09, 2013 03:20 PM (c6tHt)

107 The Chinese don't wash the windows on the buildings they've already got.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 09, 2013 03:21 PM (8ZskC)

108 Thomas Friedman just nutted.

Newsletter?

Posted by: Sandra Flook at July 09, 2013 03:21 PM (uLzrM)

109 Lemonade stands are forbidden, comrade.

Posted by: NSA at July 09, 2013 03:21 PM (Adm3q)

110 It will be falling apart in less than a year.

BIIIIIG DIIIIIIG!

That poor woman.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 09, 2013 03:21 PM (QehQP)

111 I'd sooner live in a mud hut.

Posted by: Kerry at July 09, 2013 03:22 PM (AYfPj)

112 Garrett, don't want to get stuck with penalties and a high residual for excess fuckage on my pleasure-bot. Leasing just doesn't make sense with my habits.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 09, 2013 03:22 PM (YygV/)

113

Well, first of all, my client will never be safe because there are a percentage of the population who are angry, they're upset and they may well take it out on him. So he'll never be safe.

GZ lawyer when interviewed by Piers Morgan

Posted by: thunderb at July 09, 2013 03:22 PM (zOTsN)

114 China, like the Europe Union and America, are trying to keep the can moving down the road. Pay no attention to the can, look into the vagina.

Posted by: angel with a sword at July 09, 2013 03:22 PM (2y8mE)

115 China has to go arcology at some point .. they don't have the arable land otherwise! Mew

Posted by: acat at July 09, 2013 03:22 PM (gGEmy)

116 Ever see that psych hospital/prison in Coalinga CA? It's a cross between a high school and a mall. Except everybody is a violent sex offender and or kiddie diddler.

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 03:22 PM (vDjkK)

117 Girl animation in the bathing suit at 9:29 looks to either be bow legged, or has a rash on her pussy. She should get that looked at.

Posted by: UWP at July 09, 2013 03:23 PM (r98SZ)

118 This project could never have ever been attempted without innovative Chinese materials such as concrete/workman's empty lunch bag composite.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at July 09, 2013 03:23 PM (PB4fJ)

119 It's a cross between a high school and a mall.

Sooo, it's a college campus?

Posted by: bonhomme at July 09, 2013 03:23 PM (QehQP)

120 A new life awaits you in the off-world colonies.

Posted by: NSA at July 09, 2013 03:23 PM (Adm3q)

121 For some odd reason, I want to blaze up and go visit other dimensions now.

Please call my East of the Rockies Hotline this evening.

Posted by: George Snoory at July 09, 2013 03:23 PM (uLzrM)

122 Thomas Friedman just nutted.
That's all I need to know.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 09, 2013 03:24 PM (OgQih)

123 116 China has to go arcology at some point .. they don't have the arable land otherwise! Mew Posted by: acat at July 09, 2013 07:22 PM (gGEmy) Somebody published soil studies showing ground contamination. It was considered a state scecret and now they are rotting away in prison. Where are all the fucking eco terrorists? How come they aren't speaking up for these people?

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 03:24 PM (vDjkK)

124 China has essentially built an indoor slum (or it will be, soon). Why is America languishing? Because we have half our society dedicated to hanging on like leeches and sucking out the vitality of what was built before, and their own political class that helps them do it.

Posted by: zsasz at July 09, 2013 03:24 PM (MMC8r)

125 It's not actually that big.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 09, 2013 03:25 PM (qyfb5)

126 I would look favorably on building the Great Wet Bar of China.

Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 03:25 PM (IZTTb)

127 It will be falling apart in less than a year. No way, lound eye! Our steel is alloyed with the finest nuclear waste and industrial sludge. Our concrete has lots of extra sand for lots extra strength....lots of extra sand....lots...

Posted by: Chinese Giant Mall Builders Association at July 09, 2013 03:25 PM (n50fF)

128 China has to go arcology at some point .. they don't have the arable land otherwise!

Isn't there a desert about 20 miles from eating their capitol?

Posted by: Methos at July 09, 2013 03:25 PM (hO9ad)

129 Animation has been used in criminal cases for decades. This guy is using more sophisticated equipment. Get the fuck over it, DA.

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 03:25 PM (vDjkK)

130 Where are all the fucking eco terrorists?

Go way man, getting my freak on.

Posted by: Eco Terrorist with a rabbit pelt at July 09, 2013 03:25 PM (QehQP)

131 I am officially freaked out now.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at July 09, 2013 07:20 PM (Gk3SS)

Join. Us.

Posted by: CAC at July 09, 2013 03:25 PM (/7B3U)

132 Arcologies will never go anywhere, because the population will drop long before they become useful.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 09, 2013 03:25 PM (lr3d7)

133 Err, Why must the future be a giant Logan's Run shopping mall? Why can't it be a dispersed telecommuting population with more or less off grid energy and utilities? Haven't we had enough of cramming people together in huge cities and carrying out great social projects/experiments on them?

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at July 09, 2013 03:26 PM (Nl4r1)

134 Would you like to take a moment to register me?

Posted by: Wicket Sexbot 6900 (extra fur) at July 09, 2013 03:26 PM (Adm3q)

135

...Chengdu, China?

Isn't that the place where they routinely have all that flooding?

Maybe that thing is really...an Ark.

Posted by: wheatie at July 09, 2013 03:26 PM (XWSNs)

136 It's not actually that big. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2013 07:25 PM (qyfb5)

Why? Did it go swimming?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at July 09, 2013 03:26 PM (Gk3SS)

137 >A new life awaits you in the off-world colonies.

Call today!
TOTAL RECALL

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 03:26 PM (8sCoq)

138 our space program is the bomb yo

Posted by: fly the friendly sky's at July 09, 2013 03:26 PM (V+Pei)

139

Err, Why must the future be a giant Logan's Run shopping mall? Why can't it be a dispersed telecommuting population with more or less off grid energy and utilities? Haven't we had enough of cramming people together in huge cities and carrying out great social projects/experiments on them?

Never. This time they'll get it right. This time the correct people are in charge...

Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 09, 2013 03:27 PM (lr3d7)

140 Live like bees!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 09, 2013 03:27 PM (BAS5M)

141 I used to think that China was going to take over the world, then I visited there. They still crap in a hole in the ground with lye on the floor

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 09, 2013 03:27 PM (nTgAI)

142

not enough women in that damn building

how they gonna fix that!

Posted by: thunderb at July 09, 2013 03:27 PM (zOTsN)

143 Shitty Gobi Desert!

Posted by: Lu Kim at July 09, 2013 03:28 PM (Adm3q)

144 Chengdu, China?

Isn't that the place where they routinely have all that flooding?

Maybe that thing is really...an Ark.

Posted by: wheatie at July 09, 2013 07:26 PM (XWSNs)

And earthquakes

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 09, 2013 03:28 PM (nTgAI)

145 Millions of rural Chinese actually live in caves

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 03:28 PM (8sCoq)

146 Why is America languishing? Because we have half our society dedicated to hanging on like leeches and sucking out the vitality of what was built before, and their own political class that helps them do it.

This is another reason why we must provide a Path to Citizenship for our many good amigos south of the border.

Posted by: Marco Rubio, Schumer's Bitch at July 09, 2013 03:28 PM (8ZskC)

147

126 It's not actually that big.

True.

Some of the tribal Casinos being built here are about that size.

Posted by: wheatie at July 09, 2013 03:29 PM (XWSNs)

148

I don't wanna be in that during an earthquake

too far to get out

Posted by: thunderb at July 09, 2013 03:29 PM (zOTsN)

149 Why must the future be a giant Logan's Run shopping mall? Because Jenny Agutter in a tiny silk half-dress.

Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 03:29 PM (IZTTb)

150 Probably want to lease, not buy your Pleasurebot, EoJ. Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2013 07:15 PM (WSC6V) If it flies, floats, or fucks, rent it.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 09, 2013 03:29 PM (MBqvE)

151 Hack the database, carve yourself off a crib and make it vanish from the records. Give yourself a fat local credit account.

Go full Stainless Steel Rat and live large

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 03:29 PM (/gHaE)

152 Err, Why must the future be a giant Logan's Run shopping mall? Collectivization. Everybody's doin' it. Of course, 'eggs in one basket' never gets brought up. Compartmentalization prevents catastrophe from swallowing it all. This 'single unit' concept has a showcase: cruise ships. That gets ugly when it goes bad.

Posted by: zsasz at July 09, 2013 03:29 PM (MMC8r)

153 PleasureBots really are long overdue. I heard this guy alrighty invented a PleasureBot that runs on water. But then, Big Vagina had him murdered.

Posted by: wooga at July 09, 2013 03:29 PM (Co5Zi)

154 I used to think that China was going to take over the world, then I visited there. They still crap in a hole in the ground with lye on the floor

Only the nice ones have the lye.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 09, 2013 03:30 PM (8ZskC)

155 A shining path to citizenship, comrade. We'll let you off just this once with a warning.

Posted by: msnbc at July 09, 2013 03:30 PM (Adm3q)

156 not enough women in that damn building
how they gonna fix that!

Barky will give 'em their pick from our camp population in exchange for an autographed copy of The Little Red Book.

Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at July 09, 2013 03:30 PM (uLzrM)

157 Last Sunday afternoon on NBC was women's beach volleyball -- which is quite an enjoyable spectacle, as you might know. Germany vs China. China won. The Chinese are bent on winning.

China isn't screwing around anymore, is my point.

Posted by: soothsayer at July 09, 2013 03:31 PM (Fely/)

158 They still crap in a hole in the ground with lye on the floor Hey, we're on our way. The men's room in this office has those "water-free" urinals. Smells like an alley in Paris in there.

Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 03:31 PM (IZTTb)

159 Caves are good. Warm in the winter, cool in the summer. The above ground caves Americans are fond of are cold in the winter and warm in the summer.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 09, 2013 03:31 PM (/gHaE)

160

China isn't screwing around anymore, is my point

that's why not enough women!!

Posted by: thunderb at July 09, 2013 03:31 PM (zOTsN)

161 Because Jenny Agutter in a tiny silk half-dress. Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 07:29 PM (IZTTb)

Your argument is compelling.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at July 09, 2013 03:32 PM (Gk3SS)

162 >Why is America languishing?

too many folks ridin' in the wagon, and not enough out front pullin'

add to that a government that taxes the shit out of those pulling the wagon in order to buy the votes of those riding in the wagon

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 03:32 PM (8sCoq)

163 sounds like judge in GZ trial will let animation in a least as an aide in closing argument

Posted by: thunderb at July 09, 2013 03:33 PM (zOTsN)

164 >Because Jenny Agutter in a tiny silk half-dress.

fappity fappity fappity fappity fappity fappity fappity fappity fappity

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 03:33 PM (8sCoq)

165

not enough women in that damn building

how they gonna fix that!

---------------

Oh 400 people came to Chengdu Peak!

There were fools enough to swim in,

But not a bit o' wimmin!

There were just 400 men in Chengdu Peak!

(h/t to "Paint Your Wagon")

Posted by: junior at July 09, 2013 03:33 PM (UWFpX)

166 We are not ants We do not respond well in high density environments and you can guaranty that the following will be underengineered HVAC Waste disposal the entire structure

Posted by: Mark in Houston at July 09, 2013 03:34 PM (mT+TO)

167 China is a bubble, they will get old before they achieve true prosperity. Don't be fooled by the empty facades they have been erecting.

Posted by: Ken Royall at July 09, 2013 03:35 PM (csm7B)

168

plus Chinese loooove to smke

its gonna stink in there

Posted by: thunderb at July 09, 2013 03:35 PM (zOTsN)

169 The men's room in this office has those "water-free" urinals.

All of your bodily functions are belong to us.

Posted by: The Evil Empire of the EPA at July 09, 2013 03:35 PM (uLzrM)

170 Daily reminder: Your grandchildren will be speaking Chinese. And they also will be transgender.

Posted by: MSM at July 09, 2013 03:36 PM (6sqK6)

171 We are not ants.

Argument by assertion!

Posted by: Social Engineer with a Sneer at July 09, 2013 03:36 PM (QehQP)

172 #167 Fresh Soylent BrownÂ® on sale all this week!

Posted by: Soylent Brown® at July 09, 2013 03:36 PM (Adm3q)

173 #167 Fresh Soylent BrownÂ® on sale all this week! Posted by: Soylent BrownÂ® at July 09, 2013 07:36 PM (Adm3q) Considering the subject, shouldn't that be Soylent Yellow? Yes, I preemptively denounce myself.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 09, 2013 03:37 PM (MBqvE)

174 plus Chinese loooove to smoke

I love how devoted to health the Chinese people are. They'll eat any number of awful roots and herbs for "health reasons". Yet they smoke like Hillary in church.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 09, 2013 03:38 PM (QehQP)

175 The Chinese have a reason to build out, not up. http://is.gd/oi0NG3

Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 03:38 PM (IZTTb)

176 Soylent Yellow is the Asian knockoff. You can tell because the taste varies from person to person.

Posted by: Soylent Corporation at July 09, 2013 03:39 PM (Adm3q)

177 Is that some sort of weird racism?

You people all taste the same to me!

Posted by: bonhomme at July 09, 2013 03:39 PM (QehQP)

178 From the side bar Democrats Propose Historical Park... on the Moon>>

Will it look like a giant penis aimed at America?

Posted by: McGregor at July 09, 2013 03:39 PM (qo244)

179 Nobody, but nobody eats Soylent White. Too racist and full of carbs.

Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 03:40 PM (IZTTb)

180 Edifice Complex is a mental disorder

Posted by: tmitsss at July 09, 2013 03:40 PM (Pa9vP)

181 The Chinese have a reason to build out, not up.

http://is.gd/oi0NG3

Fuckin' foundations, how do they work???

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 09, 2013 03:41 PM (8ZskC)

182 Then try our new Soylent White, PolarÂ®, consumers.

Posted by: Soylent Corporation at July 09, 2013 03:41 PM (Adm3q)

183 From the side bar Democrats Propose Historical Park... on the Moon Not Mars? Can't be Sheila Jackson Lee then.

Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 03:41 PM (IZTTb)

184 180 Nobody, but nobody eats Soylent White. Too racist and full of carbs.
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 07:40 PM (IZTTb)

It's not that bad when you've got a hankering for crackers.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 09, 2013 03:41 PM (v3pYe)

185 Soylent Tartan, for the real taste of Scots heather.

Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 03:41 PM (IZTTb)

186 Nobody, but nobody eats Soylent White. Too racist and full of carbs. --- It's not that bad when you've got a hankering for crackers. That's creepy ass, man.

Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 03:42 PM (IZTTb)

187 China seems to go through these phases and always directed by the government. We will build a giant {wall, treasure fleet, city} and then once the regime changes, it falls into disuse and decay. I always like how some historians are baffled about why the technologically advanced Chinese never really expanded much beyond their borders. My limited opinion is because it was always government dictated. Sure they might send out a huge fleet to explore, but a new emperor shows up and he doesn't care. Fleet then just falls apart.

Meanwhile, late to the game Europe, with its squabbling powers, manages to colonize and explore the world with pitifully small ships and crews. Mainly because governments and private groups fund and provide incentives for the people involved. I believe it is a good example of the difference between a top-down command style operation and a more free society that provides opportunities and protects the rights of those who take risks.

Posted by: Chris at July 09, 2013 03:42 PM (aBOfW)

188 Captain Teemo for President.
Jessica Nigri reporting for Duty!

http://tinyurl.com/oy89g4z

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 09, 2013 03:42 PM (m8qXV)

189 New Century gives me that Rendezvous with Rama rush but the dream-concept never quite aligns with the reality.

Posted by: 13times at July 09, 2013 03:42 PM (fGPLK)

190 171 Daily reminder: Your grandchildren will be speaking Chinese. And they also will be transgender.
Posted by: MSM at July 09, 2013 07:36 PM (6sqK6)

On the plus side, you won't have to worry about great grandchildren.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 09, 2013 03:43 PM (sGtp+)

191 you'll get hungry an hour after you eat there

Posted by: Wayne from Fort Wayne at July 09, 2013 03:43 PM (omBWL)

192 Try our new Solyent Creepy-Ass-Cracker (CAC) variety.

Posted by: Soylent Corporation at July 09, 2013 03:44 PM (KiyII)

193 Our concrete has lots of extra sand for lots extra strength....lots of extra sand....lots...

Posted by: Chinese Giant Mall Builders Association at July 09, 2013 07:25 PM (n50fF)

And guess who provided a lot of that sand, h8rs...

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at July 09, 2013 03:44 PM (IDypm)

194 It's expected to open two months ago, yet the video is computer-generated?

Posted by: Waterhouse at July 09, 2013 03:45 PM (asfTx)

195 189 Captain Teemo for President. Jessica Nigri reporting for Duty! http://tinyurl.com/oy89g4z
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 09, 2013 07:42 PM (m8qXV)

Methinks you should go grab League of Legends to satisfy your Teemo love.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 09, 2013 03:45 PM (sGtp+)

196 this building in Chengdu, China is very large. Not quite an arcology like you see in sci-fi books, but still the world's largest building.

And that's great and all, but as I said previously when I saw this story linked at Drudge a few weeks ago, "The world's largest building just opened in China.   In six months, the world's largest building will collapse     in China."

They can build all the big stuff they want to show off their might,   but I guarandamntee you that it's the    same    kind of shoddy construction that gets thousands killed over there every year.

I agree that America USED to build great things and we haven't done that in a long time.   But this building in China? Meh.   It ain't the Great Wall.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at July 09, 2013 03:45 PM (CA2NO)

197 I'm sick of this DA and his bizarre tonal modulations.

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 03:45 PM (vDjkK)

198 57th look at China? All I care about China is their porn.

Posted by: eleven at July 09, 2013 03:45 PM (fsLdt)

199 How about Soylent ZimmermanÂ®, then? The MSM doesn't know what's in it!

Posted by: Soylent Corporation at July 09, 2013 03:46 PM (Adm3q)

200 I caught Chengdu once when I was on leave in Bangkok.

Posted by: Lucky Pierre at July 09, 2013 03:46 PM (5fSr7)

201 Yeah, sure, them Chinese can build big stuff and put men in orbit, but we have water-free urinals and separate but equal bathrooms for LBGTQs.

Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 03:46 PM (IZTTb)

202 "All I care about China is their porn."

You do realize that shit ain't really slanted?

Posted by: Lucky Pierre at July 09, 2013 03:47 PM (5fSr7)

203 One of the things that frosts my ass about the green scams (windmill farms, solar farms, ethanol, biomass etc.) is that there is a lot of good technology wrapped up in that shit being wasted. The problem isn't that we lack the alternative fuel and energy technologies-it is that we insist on using them in retarded ways. Like trying to power cities with windmill farms. We need to use that stuff to disperse and get rid of the grid, not power it.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at July 09, 2013 03:47 PM (Nl4r1)

204 187 Nobody, but nobody eats Soylent White. Too racist and full of carbs. ---
It's not that bad when you've got a hankering for crackers. That's creepy ass, man.
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at July 09, 2013 07:42 PM (IZTTb)

Hey, if the alternative is Soylent Brown ...

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 09, 2013 03:48 PM (oY6Yp)

205 Come on Fi. ...

And I find the weird South Korean portion of YouTube again. Looks like a PG-13 Weather Girls soap opera or something. Not sure which.
http://youtu.be/f0nhsTLsrrg

As for the arcology above, I guess we have found Shirow's Poseidon. Now where is Olympus?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 09, 2013 03:48 PM (m8qXV)

206 This building sort of reminds me of the Antonov AN-20, by far the largest airplane in the world when it was built in the 1930s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxim_Gorky_(airplane) Only two were built, and they both crashed for silly reasons. Both the Chinese building and the Russian plane were built for reasons of national pride, not for any practical purpose.

Posted by: rickl at July 09, 2013 03:48 PM (sdi6R)

207 We make big building....you no raugh.

Posted by: eleven at July 09, 2013 03:49 PM (fsLdt)

208 I'm sure that indoor artificial ocean smell will be very pleasing after a couple of years.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at July 09, 2013 03:49 PM (29vnO)

209 BTW, I would like to register my annoyance that I missed the earlier thread about the stupid whorebitch "woman" who got such a light sentence for making false rape allegations. That is the kind of red meat that makes my blood boil, as it happens to be one of my most virulent hot button issues.

Now I'm going to go pout in a corner and yell at passing Vaginas. That's what I call most "women" these days, since most "women" seem to want to be identified solely with their birth canal and not, you know, as PEOPLE. I figure calling them Vaginas will give them an idea of how an unborn baby would feel about being called nothing but a clump of cells.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at July 09, 2013 03:49 PM (CA2NO)

210 Daily reminder: Your grandchildren will be speaking Chinese.

My grandkids will be speaking Black English. You feel me?

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at July 09, 2013 03:50 PM (5fSr7)

211 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 09, 2013 07:49 PM (CA2NO)

*pets soothingly*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at July 09, 2013 03:50 PM (Gk3SS)

212 So, why are they building those reproductions of European cities? I have thought and thought about this, and can only come up with two reasons:

1. Camps for captured or co-opted Westerners.
2. Giant mega-brothels full of Western women to serve the many, many Chinese men who cannot find a mate.

That's enough to send my creepy-meter to the eleventy111!! mark.

Posted by: Miss Marple at July 09, 2013 03:50 PM (GoIUi)

213 I'm sick of this DA and his bizarre tonal modulations.
Live feed of D.A. speaking:
http://tinyurl.com/yk97wak

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at July 09, 2013 03:51 PM (Adm3q)

214 I would like to see the reaction of the environmentalist of just merely just talking about putting one in say in California right next to Yosemite.

Posted by: YIKES! at July 09, 2013 03:52 PM (mETGQ)

215 Looks like a casino on an Indian reservation in Oklahoma.

Posted by: Fred at July 09, 2013 03:53 PM (1t4mr)

216 *pets soothingly*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at July 09, 2013 07:50 PM (Gk3SS)

*lean*

I was late to the Vagina Poetry Slam thread, and then I missed the false rape allegations thread completely, and then MY TEA GOT COLD and... and...

*LEAN*

Gomen ne, AtC-sama. I am just feeling a little wan.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at July 09, 2013 03:53 PM (CA2NO)

217 >I would like to see the reaction of the environmentalist
of just merely just talking about putting one in say in California right next to Yosemite.

there's a bill in Congress right now which proposes a new National Park....

on the moon

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 03:53 PM (8sCoq)

218 206 Come on Fi. ...

C'mon what? Then again, LOL is a very effective timesink, which might not be compatible with all the writing you're doing ...

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 09, 2013 03:54 PM (sGtp+)

219 *LEAN*
Gomen ne, AtC-sama. I am just feeling a little wan.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 09, 2013 07:53 PM (CA2NO)

Your. Tea. Got. Cold.

Your tea got cold.

Yourteagotcold.

*glares*

Okay, which of you let this horrific horribleness happen? The Ravage needs a romp.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at July 09, 2013 03:54 PM (Gk3SS)

220 Tupolev, not Antonov. I can't read, apparently.

Posted by: rickl at July 09, 2013 03:54 PM (sdi6R)

221

As for the arcology above, I guess we have found Shirow's Poseidon. Now where is Olympus?

------------

Eh... Gotta have Gaia first for Olympus. iirc, there were only two arcologies in Olympus, and they were specialty buildings to house Gaia and the bioroid creation equipment.

Posted by: junior at July 09, 2013 03:55 PM (UWFpX)

222 It's great to see the Chinese creating "outdoor" spaces indoors. Especially since the smog's so bad, they can't breathe and the water's so polluted, they can't touch it.

Posted by: red speck at July 09, 2013 03:56 PM (9Xu0X)

223 Whenever I see a megabuilding like this, I try to project 10-15 years into the future when it's no longer bright and shiny, and the management company is cutting back on maintenance. Think of what it would be like when half the elevators aren't working in a given day, something is always leaking somewhere, and whether the AC or heat work is a crapshoot for any given section.

Posted by: Eric J. at July 09, 2013 03:56 PM (bBqq8)

224

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at July 09, 2013 07:54 PM (Gk3SS)

I haven't seen Bannion today, so it must have been him.

Posted by: tsrblke at July 09, 2013 03:56 PM (GaqMa)

225 How can the United States designate a park on the Lunar surface? That would abrogate the treaty the United States signed with other nations that no one would claim any portion of the Moon as sovereign territory.

But when has things like law and reality ever stopped progressive-liberals when they 'feel' strongly about something. Even when the something in question has no air and is very hard to harm an environment that cycles every 14 days between almost 280F and -280F.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 09, 2013 03:57 PM (m8qXV)

226 218 there's a bill in Congress right now which proposes a new National Park.... on the moon Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 07:53 PM (8sCoq) That's actually good news. I assume that means they have plans to send park rangers to the moon?

Posted by: rickl at July 09, 2013 03:57 PM (sdi6R)

227 I haven't seen Bannion today, so it must have been him. Posted by: tsrblke at July 09, 2013 07:56 PM (GaqMa)

*taps chin*

This is an excellent point. BC! Fetch the Ravage.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at July 09, 2013 03:57 PM (Gk3SS)

228 random political bullshit generator

http://phrasegenerator.com/politics

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 03:58 PM (8sCoq)

229 Yeah need to get back to writing. 10.422 words. A bit behind the power curve. But no where near as behind the power curve as those 777 pilots.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 09, 2013 03:58 PM (m8qXV)

230 Okay, which of you let this horrific horribleness happen? The Ravage needs a romp.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at July 09, 2013 07:54 PM (Gk3SS)

I was able to warm it in the microwave, but... it... it just wasn't the same.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at July 09, 2013 03:59 PM (CA2NO)

231 there's a bill in Congress right now which proposes a new National Park.... on the moon Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 07:53 PM (8sCoq) If that happens, sending a park ranger to patrol the park may get a bit pricey.

Posted by: YIKES! at July 09, 2013 03:59 PM (mETGQ)

232 My daddy has bioroids. They make him sit funny.

Posted by: kelly bundy at July 09, 2013 03:59 PM (Adm3q)

233

OT - Ooooh... My local game store just received a new shipment of stuff that includes Pacific Rim Heroclix figures. I don't play that game, but I might need to get them anyway...

Posted by: junior at July 09, 2013 03:59 PM (UWFpX)

234 > computer-generated quote or actual obama quote?

I refuse to support an America where right-wing radio propagandists and 24-hour news networks can take away our cherished American values.

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 04:00 PM (8sCoq)

235 Real, Jones in CO.
Give us a difficult one instead.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at July 09, 2013 04:01 PM (Adm3q)

236

...a "National" Park on the moon?

Lunacy Park.

Perfect place to send all the Moonbats.

Posted by: wheatie at July 09, 2013 04:01 PM (XWSNs)

237

I Saw that this am, I tried to report it to twitter but damn. I guess I am a tardmonkey it was too damn hard

Posted by: Coldwarrior57 at July 09, 2013 04:01 PM (rO5kl)

238 >That's actually good news. I assume that means they have plans to send park rangers to the moon?

no- they'll just have the smug satisfaction of knowing it's up there

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 04:01 PM (8sCoq)

239 Speaking of arcologies -

http://youtu.be/7dd4pogcc4Y

OT - Ooooh... My local game store just received a new shipment of stuff that includes Pacific Rim Heroclix figures. I don't play that game, but I might need to get them anyway...
Posted by: junior at July 09, 2013 07:59 PM (UWFpX)

NOSEPRESS

NOSEPRESS

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at July 09, 2013 04:02 PM (Gk3SS)

240 That's actually good news. I assume that means they have plans to send park rangers to the moon? Posted by: rickl at July 09, 2013 07:57 PM (sdi6R) Gotta make sure their are no a pot farms.

Posted by: YIKES! at July 09, 2013 04:02 PM (mETGQ)

241 What's on the phone??

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 04:03 PM (vDjkK)

242 aw shit- the local H-D dealer is serving free pancake breakfast this Saturday

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 04:04 PM (8sCoq)

243 LOL Junior. Its been awhile since I have read Appleseed. I seem to expand the term arcology to define and encompass the whole Olympus city-state. But you are right when you say Gaia is the central computer system of Olympus and the birthplace for all bioroids like Hitomi.

I still need to pick up the FUNimation release of Appleseed XIII.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 09, 2013 04:04 PM (m8qXV)

244 1. Attempting to buy a gun. 2. Fight club. This was the stuff the DA deleted?

Posted by: Waldo at July 09, 2013 04:05 PM (vDjkK)

245 I actually drove past this during construction last fall. I think what I said was 'Holy shit, what is that?!' Made me think of 'Oath of fealty'

Posted by: esch at July 09, 2013 04:06 PM (XsxN8)

246 229 random political bullshit generator http://phrasegenerator.com/politics Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 07:58 PM (8sCoq) My opponent is receiving money from flight attendants, MSNBC cronies and overseas manufacturers.

Posted by: rickl at July 09, 2013 04:06 PM (sdi6R)

247 229 I will work for an America where filthy hobos and media moguls can't destroy our right to shoot brown people.

Posted by: rickl at July 09, 2013 04:07 PM (sdi6R)

248 My opponent is receiving money from sex workers, corrupt labor unions and Mexican drug mules.

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 04:07 PM (8sCoq)

249 Okay I am ordering ]i]Appleseed XIII. Blu-Ray from Amazon. Right now the Limited Edition of the complete series is half-price.

http://tinyurl.com/pxxsw9z

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 09, 2013 04:08 PM (m8qXV)

250 I will not stand for an America where Chilean miners and North Korean dictators can make a mockery of our delicious apple pies.

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 04:08 PM (8sCoq)

251 250 Okay I am ordering ]i]Appleseed XIII. Blu-Ray from Amazon. Right now the Limited Edition of the complete series is half-price.
http://tinyurl.com/pxxsw9z

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 09, 2013 08:08 PM (m8qXV)

That the one with the weird 3d animation?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 09, 2013 04:10 PM (v3pYe)

252 damn green light on my droid phone keeps flashing

I bought this smartphone to get connected- the last thing I want is a bunch of phone calls and emails

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2013 04:10 PM (8sCoq)

253 Hey, there's also a Wine Review Generator: Cedar Meadows Winery mixes bashful rosemary midtones and a South American espresso aroma in their 1754 Cabernet Sauvignon.

Posted by: rickl at July 09, 2013 04:13 PM (sdi6R)

254

Okay I am ordering ]i]Appleseed XIII. Blu-Ray from Amazon. Right now the Limited Edition of the complete series is half-price.
http://tinyurl.com/pxxsw9z

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 09, 2013 08:08 PM (m8qXV)

That the one with the weird 3d animation?

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You're probably thinking of the two movies.

Appleseed XIII is a series that was released a year or two ago. I saw the first few episodes fansubbed, but wasn't overly impressed with them. The characterization of Briareos in particular seemed horribly off. I probably still would have kept watching, but the fansubs dried up. Seems that people just weren't interested in it.

If Funimation's doing a release, though, I might see if I can track it down. I *really* like the manga, even if the animated versions perpetually seem to fall flat.

Posted by: junior at July 09, 2013 04:13 PM (UWFpX)

255 Yes in some of the episodes the computer animation looks worse than what can be generated by the free MMD software. But the reboot movies are far more horrendous when it comes to computer animation as in why is child Deunan's head is larger than her mother's. Almost want to scream 'that is no moon!' in that scene.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 09, 2013 04:13 PM (m8qXV)

256 The 1960 Sauvignon Blanc from Capone Bros Vineyards intertwines satirical musk undertones with a better-than-slow-death flouride flavor.

Posted by: rickl at July 09, 2013 04:13 PM (sdi6R)

257 The 2001 Pinot Grigio from El Burro Winery mixes Latino ketchup elements with a delightful cactus bouquet.

Posted by: rickl at July 09, 2013 04:16 PM (sdi6R)

258 Junior, the reboot movies made the original Appleseed OVA seem spectacular. I watched three of the fan-sub episodes of XIII and then it vanished. I want to see how they handle things. Briareos' background is not too shocking when one remembers Deunan's heritage.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 09, 2013 04:17 PM (m8qXV)

259 I take it there's a new thread up.

Posted by: rickl at July 09, 2013 04:17 PM (sdi6R)

260

Junior, the reboot movies made the original Appleseed OVA seem spectacular. I watched three of the fan-sub episodes of XIII and then it vanished. I want to see how they handle things. Briareos' background is not too shocking when one remembers Deunan's heritage.

----------------

While the movies were pretty bad in the animation department, I do think that the spider gun platforms "waking up" in the first movie is one of the most awe-inspiring things that I've seen on a big screen (I saw the first movie in a theater). It looked pretty cool.

My complaint with Briareos is how weak his personality seemed. I know about his canon background (or in other words, how they screwed up the depiction of his clone in the second movie), and I don't remember any mention of that in XIII. But his personality seemed way off. This is the guy who, in the manga, tells her to knock off the insults to the guys she beats in a mock battle. But he comes across as whiny and disrespected by Duenan in XIII.

Posted by: junior at July 09, 2013 04:25 PM (UWFpX)

261

"This is a platform thru which the new God favored land communicates with the world." Really, God favored. There were also multiple references to being in heaven or paradise. China has apparently moved on from worshiping Mao to worshipping mammon.

Posted by: Terentia at July 09, 2013 04:35 PM (DX/j9)

262 Remember when the future was in those big-ass dams the Soviets were throwing up every couple of years? Good times.
The World's Largest Hotel In The World (tm) is in Pyongyang, and everyone knows what an economic powerhouse that city sits astride.
Massive boondoggles like this are the past, not the future.

Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at July 09, 2013 05:29 PM (jqHOY)

263 China will build Mega Potemkin Villages.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at July 09, 2013 05:53 PM (2vl2+)

264 I hate indoor pools. Smelly, damp.... yuck. I just saved myself a trip to this one I guess.

Posted by: PJ at July 09, 2013 06:26 PM (ZWaLo)

265 With the Chinese building codes, and the conspicuous absence of re-bar in their schools, I want to see pictures of this thing after the next earthquake...

Posted by: ChrisP at July 09, 2013 06:30 PM (W3WhH)

266 It may be too large to be effective. It also linked to a super modern art museum. China is still poor and while Cheng-Du is a huge city, does it really need a super modern art museum? Probably not. BUT, the local officials who need to show growth numbers and who get massive kickbacks love to fund such projects. Then they slowly rot away or are under-used. I was in a city in China that was building all these amazing public works for the University Olympics....something I had never heard of, but they all had. I really had to wonder what happens when they have world class super structures after that is come and gone that no one will use. And every single podunk city in China is building these things. Because it make growth numbers look good, provides tons of kickbacks, and gives rationales for local officials to fly to Europe on fact-finding missions, aka vacations with the mistress.

Posted by: sexypig at July 09, 2013 08:38 PM (RiXbM)

267 Give me 40 acres and mule, and I'll do ok.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at July 10, 2013 05:25 AM (1hM1d)

268

I remember back in the 1980's when Japan, Inc. was going to be the wave of the future. So I take all of that with a grain of salt.

Ah, yes the "city inside one big building" thing that all of the good social engineers so love. Just like living in the mall. Funny how those later ended up being the perfect settings for dystopias - there were even a couple of Conan stories set in ancient cities like those.* So lovely, you are shoved right next to other people because your betters have decided that is what you should get. And you will like it or else.

*That H.G. wells movie had the same thing. Bloody-minded little Stalin.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at July 10, 2013 05:26 AM (hLRSq)

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