October 26, 2013

Google patented putting computers on a boat
— Purple Avenger

There's nothing "novel" here; why it would be granted is a mystery

A system includes a floating platform-mounted computer data center comprising a plurality of computing units, a sea-based electrical generator in electrical connection with the plurality of computing units, and one or more sea-water cooling units for providing cooling to the plurality of computing units.

Computers have been on boats forever. Water cooling of electronics? Old. Anchored generators? Old.

What is here that wasn't done by Soviet fishing "trawlers" 40 years ago during the cold war? Yea, because we're The Google, so SHUT UP, that's why.


It occurs to me this isn't actually an IP move, rather a political one; a "shot across the bow" directed towards local government and power companies. Google is saying there is a point at which excessive taxation and high electrical costs will cause them to seek alternatives.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at 07:11 AM | Comments (183)
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1 We're google.  You're not. 

Posted by: RightWingProf at October 26, 2013 07:16 AM (RtR5I)

2 And FIRST, btw.  Eat it slow 'rons.

Posted by: RightWingProf at October 26, 2013 07:16 AM (RtR5I)

3 What is here that wasn't done by Soviet fishing "trawlers" 40 years ago during the cold war? Yea, because we're The Google, so SHUT UP, that's why.

That'll learn the Soviets to not file for a US patent on their spy tech.

Posted by: International Patent Trolls, LLC at October 26, 2013 07:17 AM (0HMaA)

4 Google donates to Democrats. Democrats control America. So Google gets its patent. Republicans could learn a thing or two about how you run a country here. You do it with a fucking iron fist. When you get power, you destroy your enemies. Democrats understand this. Republicans do not.

Posted by: someguy at October 26, 2013 07:19 AM (8XRrT)

5 That's so Google can operate outside the US territorial waters...  this is gonna end up like some bad James Bond plot..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 26, 2013 07:20 AM (b/lt+)

6 Next  Google patent:   sails.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 07:21 AM (0HooB)

7 They are going to use those "plurality of computing units" to fix 404Caredotgiv.

Be done by the end of November, bitches.

Posted by: Ian Galt at October 26, 2013 07:21 AM (QdOC1)

8 Intercourse all those Obama loving commie douches at Google. I hope the whole thing sinks

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 26, 2013 07:23 AM (JivuR)

9 That's so Google can operate outside the US territorial waters...

Remember the old freighter based "pirate" radio stations that anchored off shore in the English Channel years ago?

The Gulf Stream off FL moves at about 3mph pace.  That's fast enough to generate significant power if you drop enough turbines in it

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 26, 2013 07:24 AM (4tK7k)

10 Google: Don't be evil.

Well that didn't last long.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at October 26, 2013 07:24 AM (MnSla)

11 It's pluralities   all the way down.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 07:25 AM (0HooB)

12 Exactly, No taxes in international waters.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 26, 2013 07:26 AM (XIxXP)

13 Posted by: Purp at October 26, 2013 11:24 AM (4tK7k)

The NSA already has that stuff floating around out there.

Snowden is just about ready to release that bit of info, so Google jumps the gun and files a patent.

How's that for a kooky conspiracy theory?

Posted by: Ian Galt at October 26, 2013 07:26 AM (QdOC1)

14 Google, spying on Americans before the NSA.

Posted by: Gmac-Pondering the coming taxational singularity at October 26, 2013 07:26 AM (IanLz)

15

ooh, ooh.  I think this is the one where Kevin Costner has webbed hands and gills!  Kewl!!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 26, 2013 07:26 AM (N/Sup)

16 Ain't it interesting that they want our industries regulated to death but when it comes to their industries they want as much freedom as possible? They're hypocrites, and we let them get away with it.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at October 26, 2013 07:27 AM (p0SKy)

17 Time to go outside and play, Later ronulans.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 26, 2013 07:27 AM (XIxXP)

18 Ckuf Google.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 26, 2013 07:27 AM (cHZB7)

19 are they going to sink the boat?

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 26, 2013 07:28 AM (8JJ6O)

20 Google named it the S.S. Guppy.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 07:28 AM (0HooB)

21 So butt buddies gets a patent because they paid enough bribe money to their bestest friends and now they have 'something' that has been done for a long time that was never patented. Isn't there precedence involved here?

Posted by: Gmac-Pondering the coming implosion at October 26, 2013 07:29 AM (IanLz)

22 according to the link it looks like the generator itself will be only wave powered instead of the standard diesel or steam that would be different and imho pretty gay

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 26, 2013 07:29 AM (qVKcL)

23 20 Google named it the S.S. Guppy.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 11:28 AM (0HooB)


The Incredible Mr. Limpet is guarding it.

Posted by: Ian Galt at October 26, 2013 07:30 AM (QdOC1)

24 This would be the same Google that Obama tapped to help foment  revolutions in the middle east, yes?

Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2013 07:30 AM (vhBPL)

25 From teh Cloud to the waves....

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 26, 2013 07:30 AM (kaGpp)

26 are they going to sink the boat?

You'd just anchor it so the generators have a fixed mounting point and see relative water movement.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 26, 2013 07:30 AM (4tK7k)

27 The latest Mark Steyn piece in NRO:
 
http://tinyurl.com/pad52yc

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 26, 2013 07:30 AM (cHZB7)

28

Can sharp elbows  be far away?

 

And navels, don't forget the navels, DiT.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 07:30 AM (0HooB)

29

and imho pretty gay

 

and that's coming from a Navy guy who grew up in Boystown!

Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2013 07:30 AM (vhBPL)

30 Yeah, time to go put up a new garage door so I can have time to watch Alabama make orange juice.

Posted by: Gmac-Pondering the coming implosion at October 26, 2013 07:31 AM (IanLz)

31 GIVE ME EPCC OR GIVE ME DEATH wait, make that retirement blackshoes will know what an EPCC is of course

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 26, 2013 07:31 AM (qVKcL)

32 Google is saying there is a point at which excessive taxation and high electrical costs will cause them to seek alternatives.

I don't think so, Google is mouth deep in govt kickbacks.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 26, 2013 07:32 AM (nKUHR)

33 The S.S. Aquaman.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 07:32 AM (0HooB)

34 They already have these very smart sonar buoys. From the price, I'd guess they had video, and gps and everything else.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at October 26, 2013 07:32 AM (ujMoa)

35 Hey Google, while you're at it how about patenting your tax free jet fuel obtaining system  -- Corporate jet + bullshit + contacts in crony gubmint = Profit.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 26, 2013 07:33 AM (cHZB7)

36 and the mini-medusa is awake and wearing a vol football jersey she's been corrupted

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 26, 2013 07:33 AM (qVKcL)

37 You'd have to use wave/turbines for power generation or the whole thing would fall apart economically.

At a 1/4 Giga-watt continuous power draw, Google's power bill is a huge chunk of their operating cost.

http://tinyurl.com/3ogm3lz

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 26, 2013 07:35 AM (4tK7k)

38

Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale.
A tale of a fateful trip.
That started from this tropic port
Aboard this tiny ship!
The mate was a mighty computer man
The skipper brave and sure
Five passengers set sail that day
For a three hour tour...
A three hour tour.

 


With Google-gan...

The Skipper too.

The billionaire...

And his wife...

The movie star, the Perfessor and Mary Ann.

 


Here on Google-gan's isle.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 26, 2013 07:36 AM (N/Sup)

39 When my mom died recently we found old bits of a "fluidics" computer -- plastic parts with grooves for the water to power the 1/0 of the old bits.  When I was a kid, advanced math taught base 2 and base 8 as part of the curric (60s).  Of course, in the 60-70s, the local natural gas company used natural gas on their car fleets.  Everything old is new again. 

Posted by: Mustbequantum at October 26, 2013 07:36 AM (MIKMs)

40 Google is not as good at the continuous suck as me.


Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 26, 2013 07:36 AM (QdOC1)

41 I don't think so, Google is mouth deep in govt kickbacks.

Google has ~1/4 gigawatt continuous power draw.  No amount of kickback can paper over that fixed operating cost.

Their power bill is such a big deal that they have their own operating system and compiler writers to tweak stuff up and make it more efficient.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 26, 2013 07:38 AM (4tK7k)

42 hotdamn!!! the girl got me a hester jersey and pre-paid battlefield4 and MWghosts may have to keep her for another year

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 26, 2013 07:38 AM (qVKcL)

43 Google has ~1/4 gigawatt continuous power draw. No amount of kickback can paper over that fixed operating cost.>>

A new Hover dam payed for by taxpayers and owned by them?

Posted by: The Hickster at October 26, 2013 07:39 AM (MVBSu)

44 41 still the maintenance costs will kill them I think

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 26, 2013 07:40 AM (qVKcL)

45 The USPTO is a self-financing organization that pays for itself based on the number of patents it issues. An examiner takes, on average, 20 hours to prosecute a patent.

You get patents like this because of perverse incentives and lack of proper prosecution.

It would not hold up in a challenge and would probably be struck down in an inter parties re-examination.

Posted by: smergle at October 26, 2013 07:41 AM (YTsQk)

46 Tomato=Tamato

Hoover=Hover

Posted by: The Hickster at October 26, 2013 07:41 AM (MVBSu)

47 I despise google..., avoid any connection at all. They busy themselves creeping into peoples lives.

Posted by: Cosmo Kramer at October 26, 2013 07:42 AM (aDwsi)

48 Goggle Pirates??

Posted by: Jesse at October 26, 2013 07:43 AM (As/N8)

49 This clearly will better enable the Riddler and Two-Face to have their off-shore lair once the Riddler perfects his mind-reading device. Beware, good people of Gotham!

Posted by: "The Batman" at October 26, 2013 07:43 AM (nr6q0)

50 Google is saying there is a point at which excessive taxation and high electrical costs will cause them to seek alternatives. If that was true, they wouldn't throw millions of dollars at the Dems who seek to make those things happen.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 26, 2013 07:44 AM (102Hx)

51 Google, spying on Americans before the NSA. That's probably all the NSA does. They sit at the their computers all day and use Google.

Posted by: t-bird at October 26, 2013 07:44 AM (FcR7P)

52 The google version of a floating point operation? This project is sure to flop.

Posted by: Went West at October 26, 2013 07:45 AM (MvGWt)

53 Google patented putting computers on a boat

Bring me one of those putting computers; how about a swing computer too while you're at it. But not in a boat. Maybe mount it on a girl's bike.


Posted by: King Barky The First at October 26, 2013 07:45 AM (cHZB7)

54 Where do they plug the water computer in?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 26, 2013 07:45 AM (jucos)

55 Happy Birthday, NCJ! Here....have a toaster.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 26, 2013 07:45 AM (bCEmE)

56 @51: I hear NSA's top project is cracking the Brazzers mainframe so they can watch for free.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 26, 2013 07:45 AM (102Hx)

57 every skateboard should have a computer

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 26, 2013 07:46 AM (8JJ6O)

58 Yea, saltwater operations get expensive, but still, if you have floating real estate, you can do a lot of maintenance for whatever CA taxing them on commercial real estate rates.

Google may be hard left politically, but that doesn't mean they're eager to pay taxes.  They've been very aggressive in implementing all manner of tax avoidance schemes.

Leftists only want YOU to pay high taxes, not them.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 26, 2013 07:46 AM (4tK7k)

59 Good grief....there is no getting away from Juan Williams on Fox. He's fuckin' everywhere!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 26, 2013 07:46 AM (bCEmE)

60 Oh, and happy bday ncj.

Posted by: King Barky The First at October 26, 2013 07:46 AM (cHZB7)

61 Where do they plug the water computer in?>>

A Toaster?

Posted by: The Hickster at October 26, 2013 07:47 AM (MVBSu)

62 This just in... a pix of Ace on va cay cay: http://goo.gl/22AcrS

Posted by: Jesse at October 26, 2013 07:48 AM (As/N8)

63 That poor toaster.

Posted by: The chicken at October 26, 2013 07:48 AM (cHZB7)

64 Rest up, big fella!

Posted by: Jesse at October 26, 2013 07:49 AM (As/N8)

65

Good grief....there is no getting away from Juan Williams on Fox. He's fuckin' everywhere!

Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 26, 2013 11:46 AM (bCEmE)

 

He feels it's his job to spread stupidity to the whole world

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 26, 2013 07:49 AM (/7Xis)

66

Happy Birfday, NCJ.

 

Mine was two weeks ago.  Many Morons celebrate this month. February     is cold.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 07:49 AM (0HooB)

67 A Toaster?

Posted by: The Hickster at October 26, 2013 11:47 AM (MVBSu)

To get you up to speed:

http://tinyurl.com/oeep9dl

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 26, 2013 07:49 AM (QdOC1)

68 OT but the dirt road in front of my house has become a large Ag equipment Highway. God I love this time of year.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 26, 2013 07:51 AM (MVBSu)

69 He feels it's his job to spread stupidity to the whole world Posted by: The Jackhole at October 26, 2013 11:49 AM (/7Xis) Well, he's good at it and they give him multiple platforms.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 26, 2013 07:51 AM (bCEmE)

70 Mine was two weeks ago. Many Morons celebrate this month. February is cold.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 11:49 AM (0HooB)

Mine was on the 18th.  At least I know that my parents had sex at least once in February..... not that I needed to know it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 26, 2013 07:52 AM (jucos)

71 Brothels used to be on boats in DC because they were between jurisdictions, same concept.

Posted by: Jean at October 26, 2013 07:52 AM (CMlD4)

72 Hope they built it strong, since the Pacific from Monterey Bay north to Alaska has some pretty fierce winter storms

Posted by: kbdabear at October 26, 2013 07:52 AM (aTXUx)

73 I have patented a canoe-based ferrying system for moving firearms across bodies of freshwater.   Beta-testing has not been going well however.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 26, 2013 07:52 AM (N/Sup)

74 Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 26, 2013 11:49 AM (QdOC1)>>

I had missed the birthday gift toaster and was going for the kill your rich husband in the bathtub toaster.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 26, 2013 07:53 AM (MVBSu)

75 Mine was on the 18th. At least I know that my parents had sex at least once in February..... not that I needed to know it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 26, 2013 11:52 AM (jucos)

 

 

*****

 

 

OMG, I never considered that.   My parents had sex?    Ewwwwwwwww.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 26, 2013 07:54 AM (N/Sup)

76 Good grief....there is no getting away from Juan Williams on Fox. He's fuckin' everywhere!Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 26, 2013 11:46 AM (bCEmE)He feels it's his job to spread stupidity to the whole world Posted by: The Jackhole ------------------- Having put one foot off of the plantation (by merely appearing on Fox), Juan was fired from NPR/PBS. He has been doing penance ever since, trying to work his way back into the liberal establishments good graces.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 26, 2013 07:54 AM (aDwsi)

77 Google is saying there is a point at which excessive taxation and high electrical costs will cause them to seek alternatives. Nah. Prepping for conservatives retaking power. Subpoena for Donk's financial records? Fuck you, no jurisdiction.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 26, 2013 07:55 AM (MBqvE)

78 Posted by: The Hickster at October 26, 2013 11:53 AM (MVBSu)

Two completely different functions.
The perils of the written word, implication, and oblique references!

Posted by: Ian Galt at October 26, 2013 07:56 AM (QdOC1)

79 What my kids don't know about Momma and I would make their hair curl. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 26, 2013 07:57 AM (jucos)

80 Next Google patent: rudders.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 07:57 AM (0HooB)

81
Having put one foot off of the plantation (by merely appearing on Fox), Juan was fired from NPR/PBS. He has been doing penance ever since, trying to work his way back into the liberal establishments good graces.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 26, 2013 11:54 AM (aDwsi)

 

 

*****

 

 

I sometimes get the feeling that neither Juan Juilliams  doesn't really believe most of the twaddle he spews.   He gets paid to be the "opposing viewpoint"  on Fox News and plays that role fairly well.   It's his job and he gets paid for it.   I  can't comment on the ethics or integrity of what he does.    (Well, actually I could, but I won't)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 26, 2013 07:59 AM (N/Sup)

82 Pointy Elbow Hour approacheth.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 08:00 AM (0HooB)

83 80 Next Google patent: rudders.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 11:57 AM (0HooB)

 

*****

 

 

Is that how you steer a cow?  

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 26, 2013 08:00 AM (N/Sup)

84 Good grief....there is no getting away from Juan Williams on Fox. He's fuckin' everywhere!Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 26, 2013 11:46 AM (bCEmE)He feels it's his job to spread stupidity to the whole world Posted by: The Jackhole at October 26, 2013 11:49 AM

Yet every lefty on social media or who ruins Thanksgiving dinner tells you that Faux News is just a round the clock propaganda network that spews right wing lies

Fox gives you three plus hours a day from a gay leftist which would be like MSNBC giving 3 hours to Glen Beck.

You can try, but it won't sink in. Pointing out facts to obtuse leftists is like trying to grow hair on a frog

Posted by: kbdabear at October 26, 2013 08:00 AM (aTXUx)

85 10 Google: Don't be evil. Well that didn't last long. --- Whatever a leftist says, the opposite is the truth.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 26, 2013 08:00 AM (rwgSb)

86 Nah. Prepping for conservatives retaking power. Subpoena for Donk's financial records? Fuck you, no jurisdiction.>>

And if the Republicans were a opposition party we could have a little fun with that answer.

Posted by: Virginia-class submarine at October 26, 2013 08:01 AM (MVBSu)

87

Is that how you steer a cow?

 

You   owe me a new monitor.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 08:02 AM (0HooB)

88 Yeah, well, I invented boats. And the letter B. Shoulda got a patent. I'd be rich by now.

Posted by: Phinn at October 26, 2013 08:02 AM (3zlTf)

89

Is that how you steer a cow?

With a "Steer"ing wheel?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 26, 2013 08:03 AM (jucos)

90 Nah. Prepping for conservatives retaking power. Subpoena for Donk's financial records? Fuck you, no jurisdiction. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 26, 2013 11:55 AM

Hey, pirates and terrorists ruining your shiny new boat? Sorry, that's out of our jurisdiction.

Posted by: kbdabear at October 26, 2013 08:03 AM (aTXUx)

91 Can't wait until Greenpeace decides to attack it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 08:04 AM (0HooB)

92 You owe me a new monitor.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 12:02 PM (0HooB)

 

*****

 

 

Here's a voucher.   Go pick one up from the store room. 

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 26, 2013 08:04 AM (N/Sup)

93 Years ago someone patented the XOR method of painting mouse pointers in motion, even though it was totally obvious and the ONLY high performance way to do it.  Any other method would have been completely retarded

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 26, 2013 08:04 AM (4tK7k)

94 59 Good grief....there is no getting away from Juan Williams on Fox. He's fuckin' everywhere! Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 26, 2013 11:46 AM (bCEmE) Sure there is. Don't watch him.

Posted by: rickl at October 26, 2013 08:06 AM (sdi6R)

95 Whatever a leftist says, the opposite is the truth. Posted by: WalrusRex ---------------------------------- Moreover, they are founts of projection. Whatever it may be that they accuse conservatives of, it is only because they themselves have those thoughts. By way of example, when you hear 'Racist!', it is because they themselves are entertaining unspoken racist thoughts.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 26, 2013 08:07 AM (aDwsi)

96 GK Chesterton "Father Brown" mystery solving priest used for BBC miniseries. Episode 1 broadcasts tonight, The Hammer of God, PBS. Since it's a BBC production, bets are on revisionism from whatever the original "patented" work printed.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 26, 2013 08:07 AM (MhA4j)

97 This patent might have something to do with the big barge Google has over by Treasure Island:

http://scoamf.us/Gs

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 26, 2013 08:08 AM (JawqV)

98 71 Brothels used to be on boats in DC because they were between jurisdictions, same concept. Posted by: Jean at October 26, 2013 11:52 AM (CMlD4) The origin of the waterbed?

Posted by: rickl at October 26, 2013 08:09 AM (sdi6R)

99


Moreover, they are founts of projection. Whatever it may be that they accuse conservatives of, it is only because they themselves have those thoughts. By way of example, when you hear 'Racist!', it is because they themselves are entertaining unspoken racist thoughts.

 

The  Modern American  Progressive  Movement - so many psychoses, so little duct tape.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 08:09 AM (0HooB)

100 Hey goggle..take a chill pill. I invented the internet!

Posted by: Not_Al_Gore at October 26, 2013 08:10 AM (bcYkf)

101 Interesting this link is on drudge. http://cbsloc.al/1bnE4CG Seems like the newsies are getting trolled. For those who don't click (or copy and paste into the URL bar) that is a story about a "secret" Google facility, whic is this big barge in San Francisco Bay that was rumored to be a floating data center, but the crack journalists at CBS have found out is going to be a floating Google Glass store that Google doesn't have a permit for. Yeah, that's what it is. Everyone is attracted to the waterfront to go buy their high tech gear from a barge. Ever read Stephensons Cryptonomicon? I think it is like that, just instead of holding the secrets for a libertarian against fascists, it will make the world safe for Fascism, as well as keep rich Leftists swimming in Olympic sized pools full of dollars.

Posted by: blaster at October 26, 2013 08:10 AM (4+AaH)

102 Years ago someone patented the XOR method of painting mouse pointers in motion, even though it was totally obvious and the ONLY high performance way to do it. Any other method would have been completely retarded>>

So the Obamacare website uses something other than XOR?

Posted by: The Hickster at October 26, 2013 08:10 AM (MVBSu)

103 Later folks.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at October 26, 2013 08:11 AM (MnSla)

104 91 Can't wait until Greenpeace decides to attack it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 12:04 PM (0HooB)

Google writes a nice big check to Greenpeace from petty cash, and Greenpeace says "nothing to see here"


Posted by: kbdabear at October 26, 2013 08:11 AM (aTXUx)

105 So the Obamacare website uses something other than XOR?

They use NOR.

You shall have neither your old plan NOR one from the exchanges.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 26, 2013 08:12 AM (JawqV)

106 Uncle Sam will slap the shit out of Google if they start thinking they're big shots.  Just ask Billy Gates about his abandoned plans for a satellite network.

Posted by: Fritz at October 26, 2013 08:12 AM (TKFmG)

107 Back in the 1970s the Soviet Union had a portable computer made of telephone relays and built into the holds of a ship.  It could travel to any part of the world where there was computing power needed as long as there was a sea port.

ISTR that the max speed for a relay computer is about 5 Hz.

Back before Enron went off the rails, they were an innovative company that provided electricity with some out of the box thinking.  One of the things they did was build electric power plants on ships for third world countries.  They would park them there and provide power until the third world kleptocracies stopped paying their electric bill, then they would disconnect the power lines, cast off and sail across the bounding main to another third world country.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 26, 2013 08:12 AM (q1sF4)

108 Years ago someone patented the XOR method of painting mouse pointers in motion, even though it was totally obvious and the ONLY high performance way to do it. Any other method would have been completely retarded Posted by: Purp --------------------------- Well, very low tech by comparison, but years ago Harley tried to patent the sound of their motorcycle. The consequence would have required a royalty from anyone who produced a 60 deg. V-twin. The patent office laughed them off.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 26, 2013 08:12 AM (aDwsi)

109 @97 I was typing all that while you were posting! You bastard!

Posted by: blaster at October 26, 2013 08:13 AM (4+AaH)

110 Ever read Stephensons Cryptonomicon? I think it is like that, just instead of holding the secrets for a libertarian against fascists, it will make the world safe for Fascism, as well as keep rich Leftists swimming in Olympic sized pools full of dollars.

It took me six weeks, but yes, and I think you're right.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at October 26, 2013 08:13 AM (hO8IJ)

111 9 The Gulf Stream off FL moves at about 3mph pace. That's fast enough to generate significant power if you drop enough turbines in it Can we build enough turbines to slow down the gulf stream and ruin Europe's weather?

Posted by: 4th generation warfare is old hat at October 26, 2013 08:13 AM (0HMaA)

112 Ever read Stephensons Cryptonomicon? I think it is like that, just instead of holding the secrets for a libertarian against fascists, it will make the world safe for Fascism, as well as keep rich Leftists swimming in Olympic sized pools full of dollars. Posted by: blaster at October 26, 2013 12:10 PM

Google Earth employs hipsters to wear a big backpack to map large undeveloped areas

I wonder how certain "farmers" feel about some hipster mapping their.. uh .. crops


Posted by: kbdabear at October 26, 2013 08:14 AM (aTXUx)

113 UCF Ka-nigits score  on first possession.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 08:14 AM (0HooB)

114 Wake just put together a perfect drive, resulting in aTD against Miami. 16 plays, 79 yards.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 26, 2013 08:15 AM (ZshNr)

115 I was typing all that while you were posting! You bastard!

In my line of work "bastard" is an honorific.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 26, 2013 08:15 AM (JawqV)

116 So the Obamacare website uses something other than XOR? They use NOR. You shall have neither your old plan NOR one from the exchanges. Posted by: Blanco ----------------------- There is also a sprinkling of MAYBE gates/logic. I understand that most of them were incorporated into the WH press office. Some NOT's have found their way into the IRS structure also.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 26, 2013 08:15 AM (aDwsi)

117 I wonder how certain "farmers" feel about some hipster mapping their.. uh .. crops I would guess there is some sort of profit sharing there.

Posted by: blaster at October 26, 2013 08:15 AM (4+AaH)

118 "104 91
Can't wait until Greenpeace decides to attack it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 12:04 PM (0HooB)
Google writes a nice big check to Greenpeace from petty cash, and Greenpeace says "nothing to see here"

Posted by: kbdabear at October 26, 2013 12:11 PM (aTXUx)"



Or Google hands a suitcase of cash to Executive Outcomes, the Greenpeace boats lose radio contact and are never seen again.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 26, 2013 08:16 AM (q1sF4)

119 The Modern American Progressive Movement - so many psychoses, so little duct tape.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 12:09 PM (0HooB)

 

*****

 

Interesting that you say that.  Yesterday a friend commented that he and his wife missed seeing me at my  30th  school reunion this year.  

 

"Do you remember  Gene So-and-so?"  

 

Me- Yeah, I remember him vaguely, why?    

 

"He's not a dude any more.  We had dinner with him, he said, "Don't call me Gene.  Call my Jeanine."

 

Me- He wasn't terribly handsome as a man, how did the changeover work out?

 

"Not so well."

 

 

I found a recent picture of the dude/dudette on line and wholeheartedly agree.  Looks like Ben Franklin.   How effed up is that?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 26, 2013 08:16 AM (N/Sup)

120 Google takes defensive patents. Name the last time they've sued someone over patents. Yep.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at October 26, 2013 08:17 AM (E8IHS)

121 I've been trying to get a patent since 2003. They've fought me tooth and nail - even breaking their own rules (mixing 2 prior arts from 2 different companies from 2 different applications). Plus, the prior art has nothing to do with our patent nor is it even close. Other stupid patents competing with obvious prior art get marched through in a couple of years.

What gives?

Google started doing something similar, that's what. My Lawyer says, nah - conspiracy theories. I say yeah. Because, GOOGLE!

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 26, 2013 08:17 AM (pgQxn)

122 I found a recent picture of the dude/dudette on line and wholeheartedly agree. Looks like Ben Franklin. How effed up is that? I'd bet my next paycheck an Obama voter.

Posted by: blaster at October 26, 2013 08:17 AM (4+AaH)

123 Manned or unmanned, it will need frickin' lasers on it to protect it against pirates ...and other sharks with lasers.

Posted by: AE at October 26, 2013 08:17 AM (tTKaZ)

124 97 This patent might have something to do with the big barge Google has over by Treasure Island: --- I smell Nazis and aliens.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 26, 2013 08:18 AM (rwgSb)

125 Well, very low tech by comparison, but years ago Harley tried to patent the sound of their motorcycle. The consequence would have required a royalty from anyone who produced a 60 deg. V-twin. The patent office laughed them off. Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 26, 2013 12:12 PM

The sound of the Harley can be attributed to the configuration of two pistons attached to one Y connecting rod

Posted by: kbdabear at October 26, 2013 08:18 AM (aTXUx)

126 Google Earth employs hipsters to wear a big backpack to map large undeveloped areas ------------------------- I wonder about that. Surely if it is Federal or State property, and Google uses the result in profitable manner, then there would be a prohibition? It is one thing to do it from space, it is another to actually make use of the property in the process.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 26, 2013 08:18 AM (aDwsi)

127 I wonder how certain "farmers" feel about some hipster mapping their.. uh .. crops>>

Similarl to their feelings on getting aerial photos of how they spread manure. The ones I know got the gold star photo saying you are doing it right (but we know exactly what you're doing so kneel bitch)

Posted by: The Hickster at October 26, 2013 08:18 AM (MVBSu)

128 Just off a little town (not surprisingly) called Gulf Stream, the Gulf Stream passes within a couple hundred feet of shore.


Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 26, 2013 08:19 AM (4tK7k)

129 You wonder in the future if every piece of land or water not owned by the government is owned by Google or Disney

Posted by: kbdabear at October 26, 2013 08:19 AM (aTXUx)

130 129 You wonder in the future if every piece of land or water not owned by the government is owned by Google or Disney More Stephenson. Like Snowcrash.

Posted by: blaster at October 26, 2013 08:20 AM (4+AaH)

131 FWIW, the key distinguishing feature seems to be "data center."

Posted by: flounder at October 26, 2013 08:21 AM (Kkt/i)

132

How effed up is that?

 

A lot, unfortunately.

 

I signed up for my HS YourFace page.  A former classmate posts a lot of Progressive crap. I never miss an opportunity to deflate it.

 

It's great sport. She's a  typical Prog/Com,  and her tone towards me is dripping with condescension.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 08:21 AM (0HooB)

133 The sound of the Harley can be attributed to the configuration of two pistons attached to one Y connecting rod Posted by: kbdabear --------------------------------- It does not matter that it is a common crank pin, it matters only that it is a 60 deg V-twin with a single plane crank. There are other engines with similar configurations, though with different cylinder angles. Harley knew full well that they could never patent a 60 deg. single plane crank engine. They tried to do an end run.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 26, 2013 08:22 AM (aDwsi)

134 previous open thread slight misquote as premise for essay I keep getting distracted from finishing The Supersessionists' blog entry @ Sultan Knish... chores calling away so y'all go figure... I'm wondering. The essay begins critical of Cruz's stand. I'll get to the end, but for now, I don't agree with becoming "more" like the enemy in order to destroy the enemy, since by becoming the enemy you only fooled yourself into thinking you were better at evil than they, hence the lesser of two evils. Don't ever argue it is wrong to uphold Rule of Law. Without it, we're stuck with the monster of both parties denying constitutional relevance. Though the enemy defies truth, hold to truth. You can not deny truth, defy truth, and expect people to rally for the cause of what you yourself destroyed. You can not resurrect what you yourself assassinated in the vain premise of out-Alinskying the enemy. You become Alinsky, and defy what you fooled yourself into thinking you cared about "saving". When I get to the end of the essay, maybe that's the point Greenfield comes to. Meanwhile chores call away from the screen and keyboard. Go figure: Sultan Knish blog by Daniel Greenfield, "The Supersessionists of the Liberal Confederacy" posted Oct. 20 2013 http://tinyurl.com/q843feu quote: The only laws that Obama will follow are those that allow him to do what he wants to do anyway. Like the Caliph who conquered Egypt and declared that if the Library of Alexandria should be burned because if its books contradicted the Koran they were heretical and if they agreed with it they were blasphemous, the entire American system, its laws and regulations, are at best supplementary. Law is a consensus. But the left rejects that consensus. It subjects each law to an ideological test. If the law meets the ideological test, which is based on social justice criteria entirely foreign to the American legal system, and the practical test of furthering social justice, it can stay. If not, then it will either be struck down or disregarded. They have applied that same ideological test to the nation as a whole and decided that the existence of the United States does not meet their ideological tests. end quote. -- Library of Alexandria at wikipedia http://tinyurl.com/ks2fsta In 642 AD, Alexandria was captured by the Muslim army of Amr ibn al `Aas. Several later Arabic sources describe the library's destruction by the order of Caliph Omar. Bar-Hebraeus, writing in the 13th century, quotes Omar as saying "If those books are in agreement with the Quran, we have no need of them; and if these are opposed to the Quran, destroy them." Ed. Pococke, p.181, translation on p.114. Latin: “Quod ad libros quorum mentionem fecisti: si in illis contineatur, quod cum libro Dei conveniat, in libro Dei [est] quod sufficiat absque illo; quod si in illis fuerit quod libro Dei repugnet, neutiquam est eo [nobis] opus, jube igitur e medio tolli.” Jussit ergo Amrus Ebno’lAs dispergi eos per balnea Alexandriae, atque illis calefaciendis comburi; ita spatio semestri consumpti sunt. Audi quid factum fuerit et mirare."

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 26, 2013 08:22 AM (MhA4j)

135 Google is saying there is a point at which excessive taxation and high electrical costs will cause them to seek alternatives.

Because Socialism!1!

Posted by: The Clueless Do-Gooders at October 26, 2013 08:22 AM (Dwehj)

136
I'd bet my next paycheck an Obama voter.

Posted by: blaster at October 26, 2013 12:17 PM (4+AaH)

 

*****

 

 

No doubt.    Just to make it even more ironic/troubling, he/she counsels teenagers and young college students with LGBTQBBQBLT issues.   I'll bet that's some unbiased guidance.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 26, 2013 08:23 AM (N/Sup)

137 It's great sport. She's a typical Prog/Com, and her tone towards me is dripping with condescension. Posted by: BackwardsBoy -------------------- But, has she called you a 'bagger' yet?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 26, 2013 08:23 AM (aDwsi)

138 Other stupid patents competing with obvious prior art get marched through in a couple of years.

USPTO has massive internal problems.  Clueless inspectors, unmanageable volumes, etc.  Some inspectors are very good, others abominable.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 26, 2013 08:24 AM (4tK7k)

139 you sunk my google ship

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 26, 2013 08:24 AM (8JJ6O)

140 LGBTQBBQBLT

Is that some kind of sammich?

Posted by: Low Information Voter at October 26, 2013 08:24 AM (Dwehj)

141 It's great sport. She's a typical Prog/Com, and her tone towards me is dripping with condescension.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 12:21 PM (0HooB)

 

****

 

 

I wouldn't imagine that you would sway her from her ideology, but do you get a sense that any outside observers or other classmates are leaning one way or another? 

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 26, 2013 08:26 AM (N/Sup)

142 I invented the motorcycle Gimmie patent.

Posted by: Gottlieb Daimler at October 26, 2013 08:26 AM (aDwsi)

143 "117 I wonder how certain "farmers" feel about some hipster mapping their.. uh .. crops

I would guess there is some sort of profit sharing there.

Posted by: blaster at October 26, 2013 12:15 PM (4+AaH)"



Yes.  The hipsters begin a new career in agriculture as fertilizer.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 26, 2013 08:27 AM (q1sF4)

144 140 LGBTQBBQBLT Is that some kind of sammich? --- Don't ask about the secret sauce.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 26, 2013 08:27 AM (rwgSb)

145 A slogan should be positive, like an exhortation. "Do good to those who oppose you" is positive. "Love one another." "Be of good cheer!" "Service with a Smile " Parents, teachers, Masters, best exemplify and exhort positively. Mainly because, if you tell the Pupils, students, young'n's, "Don't {x}!" what do they hear? "{x}!" Don't is a good reminder once one has learned Do. So, Do No Evil® tells you right away....

Posted by: mindful webworker - once a parent, always.... at October 26, 2013 08:28 AM (izPgb)

146 124 97 This patent might have something to do with the big barge Google has over by Treasure Island:
---

I smell Nazis and aliens.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 26, 2013 12:18 PM (rwgSb)

 

***

 

 

You may be on to something.  Maybe they are loading up the Ark of the Covenant.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 26, 2013 08:29 AM (N/Sup)

147

But, has she called you a 'bagger' yet?

 

Not yet, but I know it's coming. She's a teacher (color me surprised), so she may be a little cautious  about what she posts.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 08:29 AM (0HooB)

148 LGBTQBBQBLT

Is that some kind of sammich?>>

Yes Lettuce, guacamole, bacon,turkey,queso,bacon, bacon,queso,bacon,lettuce and tomato.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 26, 2013 08:32 AM (MVBSu)

149 Yes Lettuce, guacamole, bacon,turkey,queso,bacon, bacon,queso,bacon,lettuce and tomato.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 26, 2013 12:32 PM (MVBSu)

 

***

 

 

That actually doesn't sound half-bad.   Think I'll go see what's in the fridge.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 26, 2013 08:33 AM (N/Sup)

150 So, Do No Evil® tells you right away.... Posted by: mindful ------------------ Agreed. But there are times... Dietrich Bonhoeffer agonized over involvement with the plot to assassinate Hitler, but in the end decided that to do evil was less bad than to be evil. It would be difficult to find a more moral person than Bonhoeffer. It was not a rationalization of convenience.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 26, 2013 08:33 AM (aDwsi)

151 Maybe they are loading up the Ark of the Covenant

Everyone knows that shit is tucked away in Warehouse 13 out in the middle of nowhere.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 26, 2013 08:33 AM (4tK7k)

152

A slogan should be positive, like an exhortation.

 

 

*****

 

So, "Don't stay on my lawn any longer!"   would not be a good slogan?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 26, 2013 08:34 AM (N/Sup)

153 So, "Don't stay on my lawn any longer!" would not be a good slogan?>>

Set My Lawn Free!!

Posted by: The Hickster at October 26, 2013 08:36 AM (MVBSu)

154 Not yet, but I know it's coming. She's a teacher (color me surprised), so she may be a little cautious about what she posts. Posted by: BackwardsBoy ---------------------- I have found that no matter how rational my arguments are, no matter what hard data I present, no matter what evidence is laid on the table, sooner or later there will be an ad hominem attack.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 26, 2013 08:36 AM (aDwsi)

155

"You said 'queso' twice."

 

/Hedley Lamarr

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 26, 2013 08:36 AM (N/Sup)

156

I wouldn't imagine that you would sway her from her ideology, but do you get a sense that any outside observers or other classmates are leaning one way or another?

 

She'll post something perfectly ridiculous, cut and  pasted from Prog Central, I reply  the  refutation. Not many others  comment.

 

So it's basically just me and her. I knew her peripherally in HS but didn't hang in her crowd directly. I do try to stay congenial, but I don't let any of  her postings go unaddressed. She's the only one posting political stuff.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 08:36 AM (0HooB)

157 There is an article over at PJ Tatler about soldiers at Fort Hood being warned not to join or donate to Tea Party or Evangelical groups. At this time, I believe the story, for it jibes with personal experience. My best guess--and I admit it is a guess--is that the bureaucrats have decided the threat of revolution is real, are actively monitoring, and are taking inapropriate retalitory actions, thinking they have the groups they are monitoring are surely to be found guilty and thus politically they are on good ground. In other words, the non-partisan bureaucrats have chosen sides, and will crush any sentiment not in accordance with the Establishments. The bureaucrats are paving the road to tyranny, not aware of how they can be manipulated ala a Reichstag Fire.

Posted by: T. at October 26, 2013 08:36 AM (nr6q0)

158 What my kids don't know about Momma and I would make their hair curl.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 26, 2013 11:57 AM (jucos)

Yes that's probably true, but if you knew everything that your grown children had ever been up to, your eyes would probably be bugging out!

Posted by: jack.h at October 26, 2013 08:38 AM (E7i+5)

159 So it's basically just me and her. I knew her peripherally in HS but didn't hang in her crowd directly. I do try to stay congenial, but I don't let any of her postings go unaddressed. She's the only one posting political stuff.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 12:36 PM (0HooB)

 

*****

 

 

Maybe you're influencing some lurkers, eh?   That's similar to my strategy.  Push back firmly but congenially, let them be the ones that get ugly, and understand that it's not them you are trying to convince of anything.  Good luck!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 26, 2013 08:38 AM (N/Sup)

160 I should add that our graduation class was the largest ever in Alabama (750 or so),  so the lack of comments is rather surprising.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 26, 2013 08:39 AM (0HooB)

161

"Well, I like queso!"

 

/Taggart

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 26, 2013 08:40 AM (N/Sup)

162 "You said 'queso' twice."

/Hedley Lamarr>>

I'm not a Kennedy so a rape sandwich is off limits to me.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 26, 2013 08:41 AM (MVBSu)

163 So, "Don't stay on my lawn any longer!" would not be a good slogan? - Seamus Muldoon Perzackly!

Posted by: mindful webworker - once a parent, always.... at October 26, 2013 08:41 AM (i5xnd)

164 Well, despite my procrastinating, it looks like that drywall isn't going to texture itself.   Off to the other room with me.   Y'all stay safe.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 26, 2013 08:41 AM (N/Sup)

165 Well, despite my procrastinating, it looks like that drywall isn't going to texture itself. Off to the other room with me. Y'all stay safe. Posted by: Seamus ----------------- Yeah..., my boiler isn't going to mount a new circulator pump either. I've left the damn thing sitting next to it for a week. So far , nothing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 26, 2013 08:43 AM (aDwsi)

166 Yeah..., my boiler isn't going to mount a new circulator pump either. I've left the damn thing sitting next to it for a week. So far , nothing.>>

That is a job that the cold will force you to do soon. Or if it's for your shower the stink will.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 26, 2013 08:46 AM (MVBSu)

167 That is a job that the cold will force you to do soon. Or if it's for your shower the stink will. Posted by: The Hickster -------------------------- 26 deg. last night, so..., the former.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 26, 2013 08:48 AM (aDwsi)

168 Google, Punks for the Administration... Was it not that Mutt who runs Google who said the words.. "If you don't want people to know what you put on the internet then maybe you should not use it." That guy is in Huseins Pocket... A more smarmy butt cake was never born..

Posted by: jet Built Around Cannon at October 26, 2013 08:49 AM (5bB1J)

169 OK..., I'm out. *to be followed by spilled water, bleeding knuckles, and angry mutterings emanating from the basement*

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 26, 2013 08:50 AM (aDwsi)

170 50 Google is saying there is a point at which excessive taxation and high electrical costs will cause them to seek alternatives. If that was true, they wouldn't throw millions of dollars at the Dems who seek to make those things happen. Posted by: Ian S. at October 26, 2013 11:44 AM (102Hx) They want their "Holier than thou" cake and the ability to eat it too.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 26, 2013 08:53 AM (bb5+k)

171 You do it with a fucking iron fist. When you get power, you destroy your enemies. Democrats understand this. Republicans do not. Posted by: someguy at October 26, 2013 11:19 AM (8XRrT) Republicans want to believe that everyone is a gentleman and so they play by Marquis of Queens-berry rules, while the Democrats try to stab you in the kidneys.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 26, 2013 08:55 AM (bb5+k)

172 I wonder if that floating thing is a tax dodge?

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 26, 2013 08:55 AM (4tK7k)

173 just wait until google starts building their own navy to protect their  sea going data centers.

Posted by: kj at October 26, 2013 09:09 AM (kw7uo)

174 A system includes a floating platform-mounted computer data center comprising a plurality of computing units, a sea-based electrical generator in electrical connection with the plurality of computing units, and one or more sea-water cooling units for providing cooling to the plurality of computing units. I've drafted patents for Google, and they don't typically do prior art searches before filing. The usual gig is $7,500 (normal case) or $9,500 (complex case) to prepare and file an application, including drawings but excluding filing fees (which you pay but then flow through at cost in addition to your drafting fees). They only do pre-filing searches in certain art units (they're in a great many) and that stage costs extra, so you usually just draft; get the approval of their [quirky] inventor groups; file; and bill electronically (which also sucks). So yeah, they have no idea if this is patentable or not. I'm guessing their perceived point of novelty is that there is no prior art expressly disclosing a plurality of computing units disposed on a floating vessel that are cooled by sea-water cooling units. Purp's point that the combination of computers on vessels and water-cooled computing units are known in the prior art (and thus the combination should render Google's claim unpatentable) is true, but that doesn't mean persuasive traversal of rejections and argumentation advancing objective indicia of non-obviousness won't get such claims allowed. For example, if Google can show that one of ordinary skill in the art wouldn't have looked to art disclosing statically located, land-based fresh (or distilled) water cooling systems to overcome problems associated with offshore vessel configurations cooled by sea water (e.g., with arguments that no such express combinations of disclosure exist, and providing evidence of long-felt but unmet need, prior unsuccessful attempts, etc.) then such claims might be allowed. Because of the way the Patent Act is written ("An Applicant is entitled to a patent unless ..."), the burden during prosecution isn't on the Applicant to prove non-obviousness, it's on the PTO to show that it is. And since Google can afford real patent attorneys to advance their positions whereas the PTO has mostly non-lawyer technical examiners, it is always possible Google could prevail. Finally, Google plays the "patent pending" game really well. You can say patent pending from the filing date forward until your application either abandons or is allowed as a patent, and when huge corporations like Google do that it inspires potential competitors to approach them as partners or licencees, and impairs the flow of capital into competitors during that brief, temporal, first-to-market advantage period when exclusivity really matters.

Posted by: Blacksheep at October 26, 2013 09:18 AM (bS6uW)

175 Purp, you're pissing me off. 

You basically did a 2-second "OMG" post with no research.  This is garbage, and smells like every recycled Politico "The patent system is broken because I don't understand it and I read an abstract and think they patented everything whaaaaaaaa..." piece of the past 5 years.

The system's much better tuned than that, believe it or not.  First, if you hate this patent so much, it's faster and cheaper than ever to invalidate a patent if you're so sure it shouldn't have granted.  That doesn't mean it's fast or cheap by the average Target shopper's standards, but if you have a meaningful business interest in the field, you'll be satisfied with your options.

Further, patentability isn't perfection.  It's a threshold.  If you want perfectly examined patents, you'll wait forever for them, and pay a lot more for them.  That would discourage people from utilizing the system and shut out anyone without a ton of funding.

You can see the examination that occurred quite easily with minimal research.  The Patent Office has the Patent Application Information Retrieval system.  Look it up.  You can see everything that went back and forth between the Office and the applicant.  I'm not wasting my time unless you want to pay me, but anyone claiming to report on the issue probably should have done that before going off on some NPR-esque screed about OMGEVILPATENT.  You can also just look at the cover page of the patent, and see a couple dozen documents that were cited against the application before it issued.  Yes, be embarrassed that you didn't.

So what did Google really patent here?  Well, you can only enforce the claims.  So their first independent claim is for "a computer data center proximate to a body of water comprising a plurality of computing units; a sea-based electrical generator in electrical connection with the plurality of computing units; and one or more sea-water cooling units for providing cooling to the plurality of computing units."  So if you don't have all those things, you're not infringing.  Still pretty broad, I'll grant you. 

But is that it?  Nope.  Then you look at the specification, because that's what defines the terms in the claims.  So if this is a decently-drafted patent, "computer data center," "sea-based electrical generator," and "sea-water cooling units," maybe some other terms, are very specifically defined to mean specific things.  That's why it's not your Russian trawler circa '74.  So while you may interpret it loosely to mean what you want it to mean for purposes of drawing some clicks, that's not how patents work.

Now I'm not saying this can't be a poorly-drafted, poorly-examined, or generally low-quality patent.  In which case it's pretty easy to invalidate.  But again, I'm not wasting my time - that's what the blogger should be doing to have a substantial post.  Right now, this smells like BuzzFeed (10 Totally Stupid Google Patents!) and I hate it.

Research and critical objective - not emotional - analysis.  It's the difference between the shitheads in MSM/lefty blogosphere and what this site should be.

Posted by: 0302 at October 26, 2013 09:34 AM (hllgx)

176 It's pretty apparent from looking at the claims of the Google patent that it is not all that broad and limited to sea-based computer systems that use sea water cooling units -- not just any computer on a boat. The patent only has two independent claims (1,16). They each recite sea water cooling as an element. All the dependent claims will also be so limited. I haven't read the file history, but it seems just from a cursory examination of the claims as written that this patent could be easily avoided by using another form of cooling for the computer units.

Posted by: Carlos Dangerfield at October 26, 2013 10:02 AM (m0le6)

177 0302 & CD - Sorry, I couldn't click through on this device so I was assuming a published app rather than an issued patent, but in any event agree with what you guys said. The patent system is far from perfect, but it isn't a joke, and these situations inevitably work themselves out when patentees try to enforce.

Posted by: Blacksheep at October 26, 2013 10:14 AM (bS6uW)

178

Blacksheep, I also draft patents -- although not for Google. 

Posted by: Carlos Dangerfield at October 26, 2013 11:16 AM (m0le6)

179 I could have sworn I just saw a catamaran built by Oracle - the massive enterprise database company - win the America's Cup.

Posted by: Darkmage at October 26, 2013 12:31 PM (CsgCf)

180 302, CD & Blacksheep: I just looked on PAIR. It was a first action allowance.  No back and forth with the Examiner over obviousness or anything. Also, the issue date was four and a half years ago, so it is kind of old news.


Posted by: rtw at October 26, 2013 01:55 PM (6zfQZ)

181 Remember when GE CEO Jack "Neutron" Welch said the ideal factory would be on a barge that a company can tow to where ever it was cheapest to run?

Google is doing it.

Posted by: Frank Reality at October 26, 2013 04:12 PM (Bn9It)

182 Internet liberty, by floating, it can avoid all rules simply by changing location on the sea as opposed to being on a fixed platform.   The very existence makes it international commerce, and so independent of all sovereign laws.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 26, 2013 06:39 PM (4A6is)

183 [;-)]

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