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March 18, 2013

GOP Autopsy Report Is Out And It's...Meh
— DrewM

Here's the report (pdf)

The short version is...Romney was a terrible candidate and his campaign was awful. They never say that but it's clearly the subtext of everything.

After saying they aren't a policy making board, they make one policy suggestion.

We are not a policy committee, but among the steps Republicans take in the Hispanic community and beyond, we must embrace and champion comprehensive immigration reform. If we do not, our PartyÂ’s appeal will continue to shrink to its core constituencies only. We also believe that
comprehensive immigration reform is consistent with Republican economic policies that promote job growth and opportunity for all.

They don't call for embrace of "same sex marriage" but they hint at it pretty strongly.

Young voters are increasingly rolling their eyes
at what the Party represents, and many minorities wrongly think that Republicans do not like them or want them in the country. When someone rolls their eyes at us, they are not likely to open their ears to us.

They suggest spending $10 million on minority outreach. Not sure how that's going to work or be received by the target audience.

Here's my favorite bit. Once upon a time it got you branded as someone who hated capitalism. Now it's key to our growth.

We have to blow the whistle at corporate malfeasance and attack corporate welfare. We should speak out when a company liquidates itself and its executives receive bonuses but rank-and-file workers are left unemployed. We should speak out when CEOs receive tens of millions of dollars in retirement packages but middle-class workers have not had a meaningful raise in years.

Honestly they could have saved a lot of time on the messaging section and just reprinted this post from a week after the election.

You want a free idea on making the GOP more friendly to new voters...move the RNC HQ out of DC and into Pittsburgh or Cleveland. Don't just say you're going to be different, actually BE different.

The "what went wrong" stuff is easy, everyone can see it. The how do you fix it is harder. All this report offers is some gentle prods that basically amount to "we need to rebuild and retrain our base to deal with the modern world".

It's exactly the kind of thing you'd expect from a committee made up of a lobbyist, a long time RNC insider, a "veteran strangest and and top ally of Jeb Bush", and a member of W. Bush's team, Ari Fleischer. Only one member seems to have any grassroots credibility.

This is a pretty vanilla report. That would be fine because that's what these things are. The problem is the RNC hyped it as some important moment in the history of the GOP's renewal. Once again, they are over promising and under delivering. Stopping that bit of terrible marketing would be a major step in the right direction.

Posted by: DrewM at 06:47 AM | Comments (306)
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1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 06:48 AM (4OvDk)

2 That's award-winning html tag closing, right there.

Posted by: Andy at March 18, 2013 06:49 AM (C/NnJ)

3 I'm feeling all boxed in, for some reason.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 06:49 AM (4OvDk)

4 I feel boxed in

Posted by: Jay in Ames at March 18, 2013 06:49 AM (i2Lsf)

5 I'm feeling all boxed in, for some reason. With a sickly grey pallor.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2013 06:50 AM (GFM2b)

6 I'm claustrophobic!

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 18, 2013 06:50 AM (KjlbF)

7 "Well it's cold outside/and the sky is grey..."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 06:50 AM (4OvDk)

8 Well, it's 40 below and I don't give a ....

Posted by: Jay in Ames at March 18, 2013 06:51 AM (i2Lsf)

9 Let there be white.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 18, 2013 06:51 AM (KjlbF)

10 ...and there was white.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 18, 2013 06:51 AM (KjlbF)

11 That's award-winning html tag closing, right there.

Posted by: Andy at March 18, 2013 10:49 AM (C/NnJ)

Vintage AOSHQ.

Take a shot at the mistake, and then fix it (I'm just guessing about that).

Clearly you aren't an inside-the-beltway Republican.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 18, 2013 06:53 AM (3Mkrp)

12 Well, it's 40 below and I don't give a ... Got a heater in the truck, and I'm off to the rodeo!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2013 06:53 AM (GFM2b)

13 It won't matter. Until a fix to the Lautenburg amendment is passed and signed, I won't be appearing at the polls anyway.

Posted by: badanov at March 18, 2013 06:54 AM (2roz+)

14 I read it and saw "more of the same now with 10% more OUTREACH!"

It was so well crafted a document I have accepted that banging the tip jar here for a 100 bucks is better for my beliefs than giving the RNC the same hundred.

Draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 18, 2013 06:54 AM (LRFds)

15 This all strikes me as a return to the spineless me-too republicanism of FDR's time. So they're gonna spend 10 million on minority out reach, which translates to they're going to give some consultants 10 million to waste in a half-ass attempt to pander to brown people. Hell we're so panicked in the GOP we're willing to legalize 20 million people who will vote 70% democrat, see we'll commit electoral suicide to convince democrats and the MSM that we're not racist.

Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at March 18, 2013 06:56 AM (HEa5q)

16 To the actual point of the post... Yeah, actually, I think the report comes so close to what's actually going on, but for some reason they won't confront it. First (since Drew brings it up first): We do need to address "Comprehensive Immigration Reform." I think it's time to stop being afraid of that term and start redefining it. I have three steps that could make CIR "palatable" to Conservatives. 1: Enforce current law. Really enforce it, target employers especially. 2: No welfare benefits of any kind for non-citizens. No food stamps, no WIC, nothing. If you're not here legally, you don't get public money. 3: A new immigration status which denotes someone accepted Amnesty- which precludes them from ever attaining citizenship unless they first return to their country of origin and apply the "long" way. Once those things are done (and I would have to see evidence that they are "done"), then I could support something resembling Amnesty. The details on that would have to be worked out. For the Gay Marriage thing, as much as I abhor it (and I do), I think it's time the national party said "We have bigger fish to fry," let DOMA die (for the moment) and sent it back to the States. I don't like that answer (for reasons I've stated before), but I think we're in a "choose your battles" situation, and I don't think that one is one we will win, and is one which could do us great harm.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 06:56 AM (4OvDk)

Of course DrewM thinks the unwritten subtext of the report is that Romney was a terrible candidate and the campaign was terrible.

He thinks the subtext of the ingredient list on the back of the cereal box says that Romney was a terrible candidate and the campaign was terrible.

Posted by: polynikes at March 18, 2013 06:56 AM (m2CN7)

18 Did they hire Democrats to tell them what's wrong with the Republican Party? These people need to hire a farmer with a tractor to pull their heads out of their asses.

Posted by: sherlock at March 18, 2013 06:56 AM (U0GBa)

19 I don't trust anything the GOP puts out, but we do need to attack corporate welfare. Agricultural subsidies, reform copyright, repeal the Hollywood Tax Breaks, stop bailing out car companies, banks, and "green chutes" of Obama's buddies. Start with that.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 06:56 AM (FsUAO)

20 Republicans are STILL getting brutally beaten over abortion and it's legal. Gay marriage is killing GOP with young voters. In my humble (and possibly dumb) opinion those are the two thing that are killing us the most with single issue voters, and I think there a shit ton of those.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at March 18, 2013 06:57 AM (+wxCD)

21 If the report doesn't mention a lack of media savvy/strategy for dealing with a hostile press the it's worthless.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2013 06:57 AM (0/zfR)

There's only one man who can save the GOP; Jeb Bush.

Posted by: JB at March 18, 2013 06:57 AM (2RjMf)

I love that the RNC keeps trying to diagnose what happened in November, when all of us have already picked the corpse apart and had its various diseased organs on display for months.

I gather that this post-mortem was populated, at least in part, by that survey I got in the mail back in February about my take on the 2012 election. I'm sure most of you got it, too. I took every opportunity to call them on the carpet for being Dem-lite poseurs. So hey, at least they KINDA heard me.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 18, 2013 06:58 AM (4df7R)

"Young voters are increasingly rolling their eyes at what the Party represents"

That's because young voters are increasingly stupid and lazy. Rarely do I meet non veteran kids in their early 20s that I don't want to slap the hell out of.

Posted by: UGAdawg at March 18, 2013 06:58 AM (osx1V)

25 Corporate welfare...like funneling tax dollars to Coca-Cola and PepsiCo and FritoLay via SNAP?

I denounce myself for my racism and shit.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 18, 2013 06:58 AM (/kI1Q)

26 And why is "outreach" a bad word? How do you think the libs got black folk et al to vote for them? In the beginning proud black folk wouldn't take welfare. It was sold door to effing door. We need someone selling freedom door to door.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 06:59 AM (FsUAO)

27 I'm all for free markets, but why is every call for stopping banks from ripping off their customers (JP Morgan, Maddoff, Corzine, etc) or pointing out that giving management fat bonuses for failure is stupid (Hostess, etc) met with calls of derision? Note in the management instance I'm not even calling for any kind of legal action, merely saying pointing it out as shitty would probably help. In the bankster case some of those clowns should be in jail.

While financiers and businessmen are essential to our economy, they aren't doing God's work, and our side putting them on a pedestal is just as stupid as the Left and their entertainment industry worship.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 18, 2013 06:59 AM (K1JW0)

28 "comprehensive immigration reform"

Do they define what this means anywhere? Because if they mean amnesty, they can get fucked. If they mean border security and enforcement of immigration laws like every other country in the world does, then I'm on board. With that particular item, anyway.

Posted by: Marmo at March 18, 2013 06:59 AM (QW+AD)

29 Republicans are STILL getting brutally beaten over abortion and it's legal. Gay marriage is killing GOP with young voters. In my humble (and possibly dumb) opinion those are the two thing that are killing us the most with single issue voters, and I think there a shit ton of those.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at March 18, 2013 10:57 AM (+wxCD)

Romney won white voters under 30. And nonwhite voters under 30 aren't voting Dem because of gay marriage.

Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at March 18, 2013 07:00 AM (CfjR/)

30 http://ace.mu.nu/archives/333618.php#333618 ORCA became self aware and read Ace's post. Now, it's like reading the Schlieffen plan in 1919.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 18, 2013 07:01 AM (Ec6wH)

31 For the Gay Marriage thing, as much as I abhor it (and I do), I think it's time the national party said "We have bigger fish to fry," let DOMA die (for the moment) and sent it back to the States. I don't like that answer (for reasons I've stated before), but I think we're in a "choose your battles" situation, and I don't think that one is one we will win, and is one which could do us great harm. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 10:56 AM (4OvDk) ..and as much as I hate to agree with that, I do. As long as the FED stays out of it.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 18, 2013 07:01 AM (JoWEB)

"comprehensive immigration reform"

Do they define what this means anywhere? Because if they mean amnesty, they can get fucked.

Any time I hear "comprehensive immigration reform," I immediately replace it with "amnesty." It's the same thing. If they were planning to follow current law and enforce border security it wouldn't be "reform," nor would they need "comprehensive" in there like some two dollar whore.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 18, 2013 07:02 AM (4df7R)

33 26 HoboJerky,

I posted earlier on "missionaries" and it is *not* a joke...

get a part time job ~12 hours a week and *show* the bright ones in the poor that work and thrift pay off.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 18, 2013 07:02 AM (LRFds)

34 "17 Of course DrewM thinks the unwritten subtext of the report is that Romney was a terrible candidate and the campaign was terrible. " actually the standard operating procedure of the consultant class is to blame the candidate and those are the people who wrote this report. So he's probably right there.

Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at March 18, 2013 07:02 AM (HEa5q)

35 That's because young voters are increasingly stupid and lazy.

We say "opportunity", they hear "gonna make you get a job."

(Meanwhile, I'm selfish and ruining America. Ho-hum. http://is.gd/3fgyA2)

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 18, 2013 07:02 AM (/kI1Q)

36 There is so much low-hanging conservative fruit to grab voters, but the GOP won't do any of them. They have corporate masters to attend to.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 07:02 AM (FsUAO)

Simple stuff.

After every campaign, make two lists, what went right and what went wrong. You then fix what went wrong and reinforce what went right.

Unless of course, NOTHING went right.

Posted by: MisterMoney at March 18, 2013 07:03 AM (wN82N)

38 35 Ms Radish,

another case of "told you so" tasting like ass or ash will be when Free Shit Army finds out what work camps are like...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 18, 2013 07:03 AM (LRFds)

39 why is every call for stopping banks from ripping off their customers (JP Morgan, Maddoff, Corzine, etc) It's not that "every call" is met with derision. It's that every attempt is met with derision, because they are so transparently failure prone. I actually agree with you that this kind of thing needs to be stopped, but the way to do that is not through more regulation, but through de-regulation. As time goes on, I'm more and more convinced that the National Bank is kind of the capstone of "the problem." Banks exist (more than just about any other business in the world) to make profit. National Banks have a special need to do that, especially when they're publicly traded. But that means they'll resort to more and more shady ways to do that- and they can absorb more risk (nevermind that "absorbing" that risk means screwing over their account holders). Smaller banks are naturally more risk-averse. But no one (at least, no one with any power) is calling for breaking up the big banks.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 07:03 AM (4OvDk)

40 Jon, agree completely. The media keeps insisting that younger voters bailed on Romney--he won Reaganesque levels of younger voters, but was overwhelmed by the tribalistic (?) aspect of the election. American politics is purely tribal.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 18, 2013 07:04 AM (Ec6wH)

41 my friends son who is a hard core republican now is a gay marriage convert. hes a junior at WASH U. we are going to lose the youth on this wedge issue.And yet i cant completely surrender on it

Posted by: Avi at March 18, 2013 07:05 AM (z9OI2)

42 15 vote Lord Humungus
Reaching out to minorities is bad, but Republican outreach to bible thumpers is OK. Typical hypocrisy.

Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 07:05 AM (QIwIs)

43 The big question is does Obama's voting coalition show up when chocolate jesus is not on the ballot? If no then this demographic shift of doom is a myth. Having a GOP candidate with some fucking charisma might help with low information voters too.

Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at March 18, 2013 07:06 AM (HEa5q)

44 Troll makes a good point. How do you think the Christian Vote was captured? Endless wooing, in part by Dubya.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 07:07 AM (FsUAO)

45 Seeing the reaction of the people on this blog to the GOP's report shows why they will lose. The establishment gets it, but the base voters do not. The GOP is heading to extinction and it will be fun to see the whining and crying around these parts.

It's tough being losers!

Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 07:07 AM (QIwIs)

46 IOW, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

The race is to the bottom.

The GOP is telling those of us who are raising our children to value:

the rule of law,
self sufficiency,
deferring gratification,
honesty,
hard work,
thrift,
that sin is real,
that morality is not situational,
that firearms are only as bad as the people using them, and
that doing charity is good and necessary but receiving it is to be avoided at all costs...
that a government that cannot even secure its border has no legitimacy

the GOP is just telling us that we're just setting our kids up to be social pariahs.

This will end badly.

To hell with the GOP. Rove. Boehner. Rubio. And the rest of them.

If the GOP nominates Rand Paul or Ted Cruz, maybe I'll listen.

Posted by: Bear Claw Chris Lapp at March 18, 2013 07:07 AM (u3N3z)

47 For the Gay Marriage thing, as much as I abhor it (and I do), I think it's time the national party said "We have bigger fish to fry," let DOMA die (for the moment) and sent it back to the States. I don't like that answer (for reasons I've stated bore), but I think we're in a "choose your battles" situation, and I don't think that one is one we will win, and is one which could do us great harm. if it goes back to the states will alabama have to accept a new york gay marriage license?

Posted by: Avi at March 18, 2013 07:07 AM (z9OI2)

48 26 Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 10:59 AM (FsUAO) Outreach is a dirty dirty word to Drew. We clearly have the numbers if we just turn out our base; we don't need anyone new. And demographics and psychographics stay static and the same for decades upon decades....right?

Posted by: JJ Stone at March 18, 2013 07:07 AM (33gJp)

49 we are going to lose the youth on this wedge issue.And yet i cant completely surrender on it And that's why the National Republicans should just let it die. It's one thing if you say, "Look, the People of Washington have decided that they will not allow same-sex marriage." It's something different if you say, "Republicans are against same-sex marriage." The moderates are right on one point (and this may be the only point they're right about)- what is possible and even worthwhile at the State level is not necessarily possible at the National level. So, as long as the Republican position was, "We're going to keep the Fed out of it. Period," I could accept that.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 07:08 AM (4OvDk)

50 If Republicans would just embrace everything on the Democrat's agenda, they would win elections in a landslide.

Posted by: The Autopsy Report's Summary at March 18, 2013 07:08 AM (71LDo)

51 Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 11:05 AM (QIwIs) no my point was they'll just cheaply pander and make a hash of it. the GOP can't out pander the democrats anyway. They should be trying to appeal to everyone not just along tribal lines.

Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at March 18, 2013 07:08 AM (HEa5q)

52 45 YBR,

I am willing to bet that one of the two parties to survive the economic oops you shitbags are brewing will not be called "Republicans"...

I am also willing to bet that "democrat" won't mean "marxist"

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 18, 2013 07:09 AM (LRFds)

I recognize stupidity when I see it.

Posted by: polynikes at March 18, 2013 07:09 AM (m2CN7)

54 20 Republicans are STILL getting brutally beaten over abortion and it's legal. Gay marriage is killing GOP with young voters. In my humble (and possibly dumb) opinion those are the two thing that are killing us the most with single issue voters, and I think there a shit ton of those. Posted by: Eaton Cox at March 18, 2013 10:57 AM (+wxCD) time for us to move to legal safe and rare

Posted by: Avi at March 18, 2013 07:09 AM (z9OI2)

55 We're Republicans And we're okay! We're for abortion and marriage that's gay. We love illegals And pet our beagles And hate the free marketry On Sunday we go golfing And hate that poser JC We're Republicans And we're okay We're for abortion and marriage that's gay We spend all your money We think that's funny And of course we get our cut Boehner's just like Pelosi But with a smaller butt We're Republicans Don't roll your eyes We don't have principles that you despise!

Posted by: The New Republican Partay!!! at March 18, 2013 07:10 AM (j2lYi)

56 hard core republican

Hard-core republican like Juan Mccain or Speaker Boner? That term has completely lost meaning.

Posted by: JACK SHIT at March 18, 2013 07:10 AM (Vgxrl)

57 So, as long as the Republican position was, "We're going to keep the Fed out of it. Period," I could accept that. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 11:08 AM (4OvDk) Indeed. *plugs Rand Paul here* And contrary to what people are saying, we aren't losing voters we want to abortion. It's the pro-death leftists we lose.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 07:10 AM (FsUAO)

58 The economic strangulation of the young stupids will continue until they re-orient their views on gay marriage. I'm done hiring 30-and-unders unless they're veterans or have proved some serious bonafides.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 18, 2013 07:11 AM (Ec6wH)

59 Rarely do I meet non veteran kids in their early 20s that I don't want to slap the hell out of.

Posted by: UGAdawg at March 18, 2013 10:58 AM (osx1V)

And that's just for dressing like assholes.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 18, 2013 07:11 AM (3Mkrp)

60 I'd be all for Comprehensive Immigration Reform if it wasn't for all the foreigners!

Posted by: The Democrat's at March 18, 2013 07:11 AM (71LDo)

61 @46 Bear Claw Chris Lapp~ I second your post. To hell with the GOP and them. Just to hell with them. The autopsy report was my "closure moment" with the GOP. Done.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at March 18, 2013 07:11 AM (dDQqO)

62 if it goes back to the states will Alabama have to accept a new york gay marriage license? Nope. There was a time when most states didn't recognize marriage licenses from Nevada (because of the "getting hitched in Vegas" thing) without some specific provisos and curlicues. Similarly, a state (even with a reciprocity agreement) doesn't have to accept my CHL as valid if I move there. The way I envision it, if you're traveling through, then your "marriage" is valid. If you change residency to a state that does not acknowledge SSM, however, then your marriage license is annulled or converted to the state equivalent (domestic partnership, for example).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 07:11 AM (4OvDk)

63 52 sven10077
Republicans gave into bigotry and are now facing the consequences. In 100 years, the Republican Party and Conservative movement will be relics like flat earthers. There will be a Rightwing, but it will not be Conservatives or the GOP.

Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 07:11 AM (QIwIs)

64 I'd be all for Comprehensive Immigration Reform if it wasn't for all the foreigners!

Posted by: The Democrat's Caricature of a Republican at March 18, 2013 07:12 AM (71LDo)

65 A strange strategist indeed.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 18, 2013 07:12 AM (ORGYc)

66 I recognize stupidity when I see it.
Posted by: polynikes at March 18, 2013 11:09 AM (m2CN7)

Like every time you look in a mirror.

Posted by: DrewM. at March 18, 2013 07:12 AM (6cEN2)

67 So, as long as the Republican position was, "We're going to keep the Fed out of it. Period," I could accept that. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 11:08 AM (4OvDk) in principle i agree, but the libs have destroyed our constitution. there are conservative arguments for gay marriage, but the gay activists wont stop until they shove moral equivalence down our throat. when our constitution still applied a baker could refuse to make a gay wedding cake. now he gets successfully sued.

Posted by: Avi at March 18, 2013 07:12 AM (z9OI2)

68 "43 The big question is does Obama's voting coalition show up when chocolate jesus is not on the ballot? If no then this demographic shift of doom is a myth."

Bingo.

They sure won't show up for Hillary or Biden or O'Malley.

You know who else won't show up? The Obama fellating media.

Posted by: Bear Claw Chris Lapp at March 18, 2013 07:12 AM (u3N3z)

69 54 Avi
You are a voice of reason, these people will not listen. I am convinced conservatives love to lose.

Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 07:13 AM (QIwIs)

#26

As much as I despise the current concept of "community organizer", there could be lessons learned from the current crop of organizers, along with the idea of "selling freedom door to door", maybe that could be the start of something. Might sound kooky but it could be part of a multi-faceted approach to outreach.

Posted by: fastfreefall at March 18, 2013 07:13 AM (MPEti)

71 What have you won when had to become your foe in order to win?

Posted by: eman at March 18, 2013 07:13 AM (64rcm)

72 The point to drive home to young people is that the gay marriage issue is much less important than the issue of a socialist, overbearing government.

Posted by: Marmo at March 18, 2013 07:13 AM (QW+AD)

73 63 YBR,

Yector....

good to see you mi amigo...

I need you to explain to me how the GOP "embraced bigotry" now no ad ho and no "derp suthern stragtegy!" since well donks pretend to be pro gun and such ala Saint Gabby of the AR-15....

oh and before I forget...go fuck yourself.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 18, 2013 07:13 AM (LRFds)

74 Seems to me they've simply affirmed every crap thing slung out by the Docrats in the last cycle.

Posted by: Catmman at March 18, 2013 07:14 AM (C8XlI)

75 Did anybody watch "The Bible" last night? Folks are all a twitter over the fact that Satan resembled the real devil in the White House.
Hey, Freud says there are no accidents, Jack.

Posted by: ALH at March 18, 2013 07:14 AM (yAPdC)

76 Republicans are STILL getting brutally beaten over abortion and it's legal. Actually, that's not true. We get beaten over abortion when we have idiots who talk about magic vay-jay-jays and about it rape being a "blessing." (Yes, I know that's not what he said- but that's what everyone heard. St. Palin also did not say she could "see Russia from my house.") As long as we keep our rhetoric in the realm of the reasonable, we're fine. It's when we start letting weirdos or nincompoops talk for us that we start getting hurt.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 07:14 AM (4OvDk)

77 "Bingo. They sure won't show up for Hillary or Biden or O'Malley. You know who else won't show up? The Obama fellating media." I'm not even sure a white male can win the democrat nomination anymore.

Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at March 18, 2013 07:14 AM (HEa5q)

78 The way I envision it, if you're traveling through, then your "marriage" is valid. If you change residency to a state that does not acknowledge SSM, however, then your marriage license is annulled or converted to the state equivalent (domestic partnership, for example). Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 11:11 AM (4OvDk) asa libertarian tenther, that I can accept. but some lib activist will then bring Alabama to the supreme court and her dykeness Kagan will say its a federal right.

Posted by: Avi at March 18, 2013 07:14 AM (z9OI2)

THIS>> You want a free idea on making the GOP more friendly to new voters...move the RNC HQ out of DC and into Pittsburgh or Cleveland. Don't just say you're going to be different, actually BE different.

Now that is a BOLD SMART thing to do!

Posted by: Liberty Lover at March 18, 2013 07:15 AM (encrR)

80 What is a "veteran strangest"? I imagine Bill Clinton.

Posted by: logprof at March 18, 2013 07:15 AM (+iA5G)

81 asa libertarian tenther, that I can accept. but some lib activist will then bring Alabama to the supreme court and her dykeness Kagan will say its a federal right. Posted by: Avi at March 18, 2013 11:14 AM (z9OI2) Another reason to get an R in the whitehouse.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 07:15 AM (FsUAO)

82 As long as we keep our rhetoric in the realm of the reasonable, we're fine. It's when we start letting weirdos or nincompoops talk for us that we start getting hurt. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 11:14 AM (4OvDk) we must show no quarter to reps who spout the Akin line ( and there are more than a few)

Posted by: Avi at March 18, 2013 07:16 AM (z9OI2)

83 I'm seeing DrewM. telling me this report is stupid, but I'm not seeing why from what he's quoting. Is DrewM. really trying to suggest that it's a bad idea for us to rail against crony capitalism and corporate welfare? That's actually brilliant (and necessary) positioning for the GOP, of the type already recommeded by people like James Pethokoukis, Phil Klein, and Tim Carney: we are the only party that seems to care about defending capitalism, and one way to do that is to prevent its corruption by big-money and lobbying interests. (Remember: big government and big business are boon companions.)

As for the whole "ZOMG THE REAL SUBTEXT IS ROMNEY SUCKED," well that's just DrewM being a crazy person again. I'm beginning to think he hears voices, voices softly whispering "Mitt...Mitt...Mitt..."in his ear at all times.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 18, 2013 07:16 AM (bcLhD)

84 The Republicans have become the party Of " I promise not too Poop on your Lawn Party" Let EM Burn... We need the ballistic trajectory of a 22-250 party.. Straight and with a Direst hit at longer range goals at center of Liberal Mass...

Posted by: clemenza at March 18, 2013 07:16 AM (HMQ8k)

85 Posted by: Jeff B. at March 18, 2013 11:16 AM (bcLhD) Repeal the Hollywood Tax Breaks!

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 07:17 AM (FsUAO)

What is a "veteran strangest"? I imagine Bill Clinton.

That cocksucker always stiffs us on the tab.

Posted by: Al Swearengen at March 18, 2013 07:17 AM (BrQrN)

87 Shorter GOP autopsy report: Become more like the Democrats. Attract voters. Win!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2013 07:17 AM (XkWWK)

88 Like every time you look in a mirror.

Posted by: DrewM. at March 18, 2013 11:12 AM (6cEN2)

I was referring to the poster 'you better recognize' but since you brought it up, that must have hurt your brain coming up with that 2nd grade retort.

Posted by: polynikes at March 18, 2013 07:17 AM (m2CN7)

89 "We're going to keep the Fed out of it. Period," I could accept that.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 11:08 AM (4OvDk)

That's an easily defensible position too. It's simple and to the point.

Have you considered expanding the idea of limiting the power of the federal government, perhaps based on the Constitutional limitation as expressed in the 10th amendment?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 18, 2013 07:17 AM (3Mkrp)

90 WAF The republican primary voters nominated Romney, McCain, Dole, two Bushes, and I still remember Nixon.

Burn it with phosphorous and put it out of it's misery.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at March 18, 2013 07:18 AM (epxV4)

91 but some lib activist will then bring Alabama to the supreme court and her dykeness Kagan will say its a federal right. It's not without risk. But wouldn't it then be better to attempt to neutralize that issue? Should our Federal Government be handing down moral pronouncements at all? If you can show that you really mean it when you say "The Federal Government is going to stay out of it," then you'll get (at least some) of the proponents of Gay Marriage on your side. And not all of those are gay themselves. If you can get real small-government Conservatives in the White House and Congress, then you can start affecting real change- including defanging the Supreme Court- which really, really needs to happen.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 07:18 AM (4OvDk)

92 The GOP is a substitution party not an opposition party.

Posted by: eman at March 18, 2013 07:18 AM (64rcm)

93 Have you considered expanding the idea of limiting the power of the federal government, perhaps based on the Constitutional limitation as expressed in the 10th amendment? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 18, 2013 11:17 AM (3Mkrp) He *might* if he had some sorta internet-based publishing mechanism to expound on such a view... nah. crazytalk.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 07:18 AM (FsUAO)

Have you considered expanding the idea of limiting the power of the federal government, perhaps based on the Constitutional limitation as expressed in the 10th amendment?

And if so, perhaps you could write about it in the media. Maybe on a blog perhaps?

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at March 18, 2013 07:19 AM (BrQrN)

95 5 Did anybody watch "The Bible" last night? Folks are all a twitter over the fact that Satan resembled the real devil in the White House. Hey, Freud says there are no accidents, Jack. Posted by: ALH at March 18, 2013 11:14 AM (yAPdC) i think he looks more like Solozzo from the Godfather

Posted by: Avi at March 18, 2013 07:19 AM (z9OI2)

96 Posted by: Jeff B. at March 18, 2013 11:16 AM (bcLhD)

Did you not notice that whole paragraph is a repudiation of Romney? They also called him out for using the term "self-deportation".

Have you read the whole thing? If not, why don't you go read the report before you tell me it's not a slam at Romney and his team.

Posted by: DrewM. at March 18, 2013 07:19 AM (6cEN2)

97 83 Jeff B,

I am not speaking for Drew and lord knows Drew and i had our falling out, but poistioning yourself to reform crony socialism is meaningless if you decide to jedi hand wave ~30-40 million people their democrat voting rights....

if I am dying, literally dying of thirst and I come across Vana White in her prime at an oasis and she asks "want a blowjob?" I am going to ask by way of reply "Is that the price of water?"

In other words Amnesty ain't the problem, it is *a* problem but there is a reason the donks are HOT for it.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 18, 2013 07:19 AM (LRFds)

98 Any mention of Dick Morris in this report? 8 weeks of 'Romney 6 point blowout' probably made a lot of people decide not to vote. I know I thought twice about it being necessary, but I still voted.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 18, 2013 07:19 AM (UU0OF)

99 95 i think he looks more like Solozzo from the Godfather Posted by: Avi at March 18, 2013 11:19 AM (z9OI2) He is half-eggplant...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2013 07:20 AM (XkWWK)

100 Instead of being Democrat lite they should get out ahead of the Democrats. Nationalize every company, seize private property, have everyone live in government apartments, get a 5 year economic plan, abort children after their born, make everyone have to be gay at some point in their life. Watch the MFM have seizures over supporting it or ripping them apart.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 18, 2013 07:20 AM (1Jaio)

101 In other words Amnesty ain't the problem, it is *a* problem but there is a reason the donks are HOT for it. Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 18, 2013 11:19 AM (LRFds) But being against cronyism is a freebie. In fact it's a repudiation of the Big Corp Repubs who allow all the illegal immigration to happen for their gain.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 07:21 AM (FsUAO)

102 92 The GOP is a substitution party not an opposition party. Posted by: eman at March 18, 2013 11:18 AM (64rcm) THIS.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2013 07:21 AM (XkWWK)

103 we must show no quarter to reps who spout the Akin line ( and there are more than a few) At least until we've proven we don't want the Federal Government to have any say in it, you're right. Even then we'll need to keep them on a very tight leash. Note to all Republicans running for National Office: the correct answer to any question about Abortion is "I'm running for a Federal Position, my belief is that the Federal position on abortion should be no position. This is an power the Federal Government usurped from the States, and it should be returned where it belongs."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 07:21 AM (4OvDk)

104 The point to drive home to young people is that the gay marriage issue is much less important than the issue of a socialist, overbearing government.

Socialist = free birth control, paid for by those evil jerks who get up and go to work every day. Why would they want to avoid that?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 18, 2013 07:21 AM (/kI1Q)

105 The Republican party is dead and a national laughing stock. The party stands for bigotry, theocracy and war. The 21st century is passing the party on by!

Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 07:21 AM (QIwIs)

106 "As long as we keep our rhetoric in the realm of the reasonable, we're fine. It's when we start letting weirdos or nincompoops talk for us that we start getting hurt."
*****

True. But a lot of damage is done in the way that Republicans react to these bad apple candidates. Why was every other Republican caught off guard and stumbling when the MSM predictably stated that this represented the party's belief and asked them to defend Akin's statement? The Republicans need to work on dealing with the media, especially in situations like the Akin comments, if it has a chance. There will always be stupid statements - Dems say worse stuff everyday - but the Republicans continue to allow themselves to be bashed for weeks, months afterward.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2013 07:22 AM (0/zfR)

107 For the Gay Marriage thing, as much as I abhor it (and I do)Â… I think we're in a "choose your battles" situation, and I don't think that one is one we will win, and is one which could do us great harm. Yes. People, even Â“olderÂ” people (by which I mean people my age, good God) who have never even met a gay person, let alone a gay person who wants to be married, think this is totally unfair and it is a major feeder of their feeling the GOP is vaguely evil. As for abortion, yes, Â“legal, safe, and rareÂ”. We need to ju-jitso that abortion question into an attack rather than just play thoughtful defense. Â“Is it wrong for women to have an abortion after being rapedÂ” => Â“Of course abortion should be legal, but we need to make sure women can effectively defend themselves against rapists. We need to make sure that rapists go to jail when theyÂ’re found guilty, and stay in jail. We need to stop accepting that rape will always be a common occurrence and take steps to stop it forever.Â” Or something similar. See the link in my name for a related post that is not on AllanGÂ’s blog. (Really, itÂ’s not.)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 18, 2013 07:22 AM (QF8uk)

108 100 Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 18, 2013 11:20 AM (1Jaio) This is how I win arguments with the lefties, by going as far to their left as I can. It points out their hypocrisy and silences them. As for actually implementing it in real life? Not so much.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2013 07:22 AM (XkWWK)

109 There will always be stupid statements - Dems say worse stuff everyday - but the Republicans continue to allow themselves to be bashed for weeks, months afterward. Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2013 11:22 AM (0/zfR) This is like complaining that the sky is blue. They have the MSM. We don't. We have to drag our nincompoops in the back and shoot them in the head. They don't.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 07:23 AM (FsUAO)

110 Dear RNC

If I want to vote for immigration reform and same sex marriage, wouldn't it be easier for me to just vote for Democrats?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 18, 2013 07:23 AM (Fp0nO)

111 > Meanwhile, I'm selfish and ruining America. Ho-hum. http://is.gd/3fgyA2

Most people don't take every single mention of a group to which they belong being mentioned in a bad light due to easily apparent statistical points as being a personal attack. However, not doing so would prevent you from the wailing and the gnashing of teeth these opportunities provide for you, so carry on.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 18, 2013 07:23 AM (K1JW0)

112 101 HoboJerky,

Yup...

no doubt, essentially we need to take the hit on cutting a deal with the private union moderates to defang the PEUs there are a LOT of plays we have to make that don't involve trying to be a telepathic ninja who flips 70% democrat blockvoting into 60/40 or 50/50....

wven if we were at 50/50 I would not take the 10 million guys named Juan gambit because frankly the democrats ate their seedcorn in the 80s and 90s and we'd be able to REALLY get back our freedom in 20 years IMHO.

Purge the schools, DEMAND results from the fucking NEA or defund public schools...

there are a LOT of easy targets in play but trying to outdonk the donk is what "mainstreamed" their retardation to this level in the first place.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 18, 2013 07:24 AM (LRFds)

113 Abortion don't matter.
Gay marriage don't matter.
A secure border and illegal immigration don't matter.
Gun rights don't matter.
Affirmative action don't matter.
Drug policy don't matter.
Tax policy don't matter.
Spending policy don't matter.
Defense policy don't matter
Judicial appointments don't matter.

Just ape the Dems. All that matters is ... is ... is ... WINNING!

Posted by: Zombie Gerald Ford Rovian Strategerist at March 18, 2013 07:24 AM (u3N3z)

114 In the future, everyone will be gay for 15 minutes.

Has it been 15 minutes yet?

Posted by: You better regurgitate at March 18, 2013 07:24 AM (Vgxrl)

115 It's not without risk. But wouldn't it then be better to attempt to neutralize that issue? Should our Federal Government be handing down moral pronouncements at all? If you can show that you really mean it when you say "The Federal Government is going to stay out of it," then you'll get (at least some) of the proponents of Gay Marriage on your side. And not all of those are gay themselves. If you can get real small-government Conservatives in the White House and Congress, then you can start affecting real change- including defanging the Supreme Court- which really, really needs to happen. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 11:18 AM (4OvDk) while you and I agree philosophically, RvW was the greatest repudiation of the 10th Amendment in our history. and its now taught that its repeal would ban abortions. our country is so dumbed down that i bet less than 5% know that abortion was legal in 17 states pre Roe

Posted by: Avi at March 18, 2013 07:24 AM (z9OI2)

116 I'm seeing DrewM. telling me this report is stupid, but I'm not seeing why from what he's quoting. Is DrewM. really trying to suggest that it's a bad idea for us to rail against crony capitalism and corporate welfare? That's actually brilliant (and necessary) positioning for the GOP, of the type already recommeded by people like James Pethokoukis, Phil Klein, and Tim Carney: we are the only party that seems to care about defending capitalism, and one way to do that is to prevent its corruption by big-money and lobbying interests. (Remember: big government and big business are boon companions.)
...

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 18, 2013 11:16 AM (bcLhD)

But isn't that a bit of a scapegoat? Does anyone on our side really believe excessive CEO compensation is what ails our economy?

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 18, 2013 07:24 AM (UypUQ)

117 "..., and many minorities wrongly think that Republicans do not like them or want them in the country. When someone rolls their eyes at us, they are not likely to open their ears to us."

When they allow democratic politicians and the democratic party media complex (NBC, MSNBC, NY Times, etc.) to paint them as racists, WTF do they think is going to happen?

It's called developing a media/messaging strategy and having elected Republicans, WITH the guts to, go out and push back against this propaganda.

Posted by: liontooth at March 18, 2013 07:25 AM (xk0Xg)

118 105 The Republican party is dead and a national laughing stock. The party stands for bigotry, theocracy and war. The 21st century is passing the party on by! Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 11:21 AM (QIwIs) So you are in favor of enslaving all caucasians, shuttering all religious institutions and disbanding our armed forces?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2013 07:25 AM (XkWWK)

119 Drew-
I don't understand. If you accept the report as accurate in describing Romney as a terrible candidate, then you accept their wisdom, so then you have to accept that CRI is a good thing. Either these people are competent political analysts, or they aren't. Which is it?

Posted by: pep at March 18, 2013 07:25 AM (YXmuI)

120 Daddy got me a job on the panel. If children are the future, then the future is now...or something.

Posted by: Meghan McCain at March 18, 2013 07:25 AM (gZeJA)

121

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 18, 2013 11:22 AM (QF8uk)

How is that position valid when only 2 out of 34 states have voted to legalize gay marriage?

Posted by: polynikes at March 18, 2013 07:25 AM (m2CN7)

122 Cocksucka! Cocksucka!

Posted by: mister wu; ethnic voter at March 18, 2013 07:25 AM (ORGYc)

123 I remember reading similar eulogies for the Democrats in 2004, You Better Recognize. Your president is a lame duck and even Bill Maher is getting tired of his rap. Now go away and stop bothering people.

Posted by: ALH at March 18, 2013 07:25 AM (yAPdC)

124 while you and I agree philosophically, RvW was the greatest repudiation of the 10th Amendment in our history. and its now taught that its repeal would ban abortions. our country is so dumbed down that i bet less than 5% know that abortion was legal in 17 states pre Roe Posted by: Avi at March 18, 2013 11:24 AM (z9OI2) This is why things take time. Preach it during debates, and speeches.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 07:26 AM (FsUAO)

125

"Young voters are increasingly rolling their eyes
at what the Party represents, and many minorities wrongly think that Republicans do not like them or want them in the country. When someone rolls their eyes at us, they are not likely to open their ears to us."

Ewenowhut dipshits? The young voter is a product of leftard indoctrination. Out goal should be to educate the shit heads, not fucking succumb to their stupidity.

Posted by: maddogg at March 18, 2013 07:26 AM (OlN4e)

126 100, 108. Concur. I do this with my libtard brother. When he states, "I'd pay another 10% in taxes to keep someone less fortunate from paying more..." I tell him to go ahead and send in ALL his income, so that we have a state of perfectly re-distributed socialism.

Posted by: YourBetter,Really at March 18, 2013 07:26 AM (uEm7J)

127 19I don't trust anything the GOP puts out, but we do need to attack corporate welfare.

Agricultural subsidies, reform copyright, repeal the Hollywood Tax Breaks, stop bailing out car companies, banks, and "green chutes" of Obama's buddies.

Start with that.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 10:56 AM (FsUAO)

Even that term has lost its bite. Rename it "Corporate Favoritism Corruption." It splashes more of the shit on the politicicians who set up a "pay to play" system.

Posted by: Minuteman at March 18, 2013 07:26 AM (RTgp5)

128 "Safe, legal, and rare" is meaningless unless you mean exceptions for rape and incest. It's literally meaningless.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 07:26 AM (FsUAO)

129

Remember how Democrats won after 2004 following that epic speech by the DNC chairman?

Of course not.

Posted by: CJ at March 18, 2013 07:27 AM (9KqcB)

130 117 liontooth
Too many Republican voters do hate minorities. The GOP can do all the outreach they want, but if a minority reads blogs like this, the true nature of Republican voters are revealed.

Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 07:27 AM (QIwIs)

131 Posted by: Minuteman at March 18, 2013 11:26 AM (RTgp5) We can settle on a name later. I'm fine with things like "theft".

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 07:28 AM (FsUAO)

132 It's too bad the GOP doesn't put as much effort into winning as they do self-flagellation.

Posted by: Fritz at March 18, 2013 07:28 AM (UzPAd)

133 "This is like complaining that the sky is blue."

Nope, they need to admit the sky is blue and then deal with it.
The Republicans continue to behave as if the MSM will treat them fairly, when we know that it is biased. What I'm saying is that they need to be better prepared for MSM hit jobs. They need to challenge interviewers when they cue up a loaded question (Scott Brown was excellent at this in his 1st Senate campaign, Newt is fabulous at this). They need to bring along cameras to taped interviews so that they can show when their responses have been edited. They need to refuse an MSNBC-hosted debate.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2013 07:28 AM (0/zfR)

134

Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 11:27 AM (QIwIs)

Go fuck your stupid assed self, you seething bucket of rat pus.

Posted by: maddogg at March 18, 2013 07:28 AM (OlN4e)

135

125 -

I have the same problem with my kids. I tell them not to smoke crack, not to have indiscriminate sex with anybody and everybody, and they just roll their eyes at me.

I don't know what to do. Eye rolling... I can't imagine anything worse than that.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 18, 2013 07:28 AM (TOk1P)

136 126 100, 108. Concur. I do this with my libtard brother. When he states, "I'd pay another 10% in taxes to keep someone less fortunate from paying more..." I tell him to go ahead and send in ALL his income, so that we havea state of perfectlyre-distributed socialism. Posted by: YourBetter,Really at March 18, 2013 11:26 AM (uEm7J) Last week, I overheard an older gent bitch about Reagan's tax cuts, claiming that the 80% rate was good for the country. I countered by saying "well, just imagine how great we'd be if we had a 100% tax rate." His pie hole was shut faster than you can say Jack Robinson.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2013 07:28 AM (XkWWK)

137 The favorable/unfavorable ratio in young voters is 2/1 dem/gop. But when hasn't it been that way? If it's shifting in that direction, then it's an issue. If it's the same, no issue.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at March 18, 2013 07:28 AM (i2Lsf)

138 How about rebranding? We can call it the Whig Party.

Posted by: Roy at March 18, 2013 07:29 AM (6SqJF)

139 But isn't that a bit of a scapegoat? Does anyone on our side really believe excessive CEO compensation is what ails our economy? Exactly whatÂ’s wrong with this report. Cronyism is a serious issue. But the aspect of cronyism thatÂ’s a serious issue is not excessive compensation. ItÂ’s people in the governmentÂ—like the current PresidentÂ—making laws and regulations to benefit crony businesses over other businesses. ItÂ’s building up a regulatory environment that blocks competition from startups, that makes it harder for mom-and-pops to compete against the well-connected cronies. ItÂ’s the subversion of capitalism from a system where the product is political feeldgoodism, where the customer is the President or a Representative, and where the actual person receiving the goods/health care/service is screwed, because they arenÂ’t part of the transaction except as something for Presidents and Representatives to sell.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 18, 2013 07:29 AM (QF8uk)

140 94 Have you considered expanding the idea of limiting the power of the federal government, perhaps based on the Constitutional limitation as expressed in the 10th amendment? And if so, perhaps you could write about it in the media. Maybe on a blog perhaps? Posted by: Lurking Canuck at March 18, 2013 11:19 AM (BrQrN) the 10th Amendment ceased to exist after Roe

Posted by: Avi at March 18, 2013 07:30 AM (z9OI2)

141 Whats the cost of sending the Hispanics back to their Beloved Mexico? About 600 Billion,? Congress should form a caucus to investigate that scenario,,,thats sexy!!!

Posted by: clemenza at March 18, 2013 07:30 AM (HMQ8k)

142 As far as pro-life positioning at the federal level: We really really really need to add in rape/incest exceptions into the platform back in.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 07:30 AM (FsUAO)

143 RNC report may as well say they want to spend $10 million to snuff out grass root activists whom they can not control.

Posted by: Deli LLama at March 18, 2013 07:30 AM (lGu1O)

144 A professional eye-roller doesn't even make minimum wage.

Posted by: Roy at March 18, 2013 07:30 AM (6SqJF)

145

if it goes back to the states will alabama have to accept a new york gay marriage license?

If NY accepts my marriage license to Rebel, my hunting dog, we're cool.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 18, 2013 07:30 AM (+z4pE)

146 140 the 10th Amendment ceased to exist after Roe Posted by: Avi at March 18, 2013 11:30 AM (z9OI2) My penumbra ran over your dogma...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2013 07:30 AM (XkWWK)

147 137 Jay in Ames
In the 80's younger voters leaned Republican. That's when the party was inclusive and had an optimistic message. Now the GOP is a party of bible thumping KKK old cranks.

Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 07:30 AM (QIwIs)

148 Most people don't take every single mention of a group to which they belong being mentioned in a bad light due to easily apparent statistical points as being a personal attack.

Very ironic in a thread about how everyone who knows a gay person voted SCOAMF.

Please enjoy this glass of GFYWARC.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 18, 2013 07:31 AM (/kI1Q)

149 Corporate welfare...like funneling tax dollars to Coca-Cola and PepsiCo and FritoLay via SNAP? I denounce myself for my racism and shit. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at March 18, 2013 10:58 AM (/kI1Q) Corporate welfare...like funneling tax dollars...<-- could have stopped right there.

Posted by: we need a renaissance at March 18, 2013 07:31 AM (XYSwB)

150 141 Whats the cost of sending the Hispanics back to their Beloved Mexico? About 600 Billion,? Congress should form a caucus to investigate that scenario,,,thats sexy!!! Posted by: clemenza at March 18, 2013 11:30 AM (HMQ8k) Akin to George Carlin and the Bering Strait theory. I like it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2013 07:31 AM (XkWWK)

151 Young voters are increasingly rolling their eyes at what the Party represents, and many minorities wrongly think that Republicans do not like them or want them in the country. When someone rolls their eyes at us, they are not likely to open their ears to us.

Let's follow the Portman model and whatever the kids want or do let's just make that our new position

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 18, 2013 07:31 AM (1Jaio)

152 How is that position valid when only 2 out of 34 states have voted to legalize gay marriage? IÂ’d say that thatÂ’s one of the benefits of federalism. The more local the vote, the more likely voters are to concentrate on real issues rather than just vague concerns of fairness. On the federal level, people seem to be willing to vote with far less concern over how it affects them locally.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 18, 2013 07:31 AM (QF8uk)

153

119 -

Quit it. You're asking Drew to pass up an opportunity to take a shot at Mitt. He's genetically incapable of doing so. Best to just let him do his thing, then move on.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 18, 2013 07:31 AM (TOk1P)

154 141 clemenza
Would not gassing them be cheaper?

Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 07:31 AM (QIwIs)

155
Screw politics. I'm just gonna watch the next gripping episode of "Here Come's Honey Boo Boo's Mutant Three Thumbed Little Sister".

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 18, 2013 07:31 AM (0IhFx)

156

Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 11:30 AM (QIwIs)

And you are the excrement of a shit eating dog.

Posted by: maddogg at March 18, 2013 07:31 AM (OlN4e)

157 Kiwis (the bird, the fruit, AND the people of New Zealand) are looking at every fetid declaration from (QIwIs) and saying, "That fuckhead doesn't speak for us."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 18, 2013 07:32 AM (4df7R)

158

We do need to address "Comprehensive Immigration Reform." I think it's time to stop being afraid of that term and start redefining it.

Time to stop being afraid of everything involving race. That is, stand up tall and stop looking guilty. The Right is right on race relations. We are right on insisting that Mexico respect our border. Say it. As for "the Hispanic vote" - we say Hispanic voters deserve the same thing as white voters: A choice.

One gay marriage...The important thing to keep in mind is that the decline of opposition to gay marriage is as much about the decline of anyone giving a shit about marriage as it is anything else. The issue is riding on the back of a dying institution. Which should be the main concern.

Posted by: CJ at March 18, 2013 07:32 AM (9KqcB)

159 clean up on aisle 154

Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 18, 2013 07:32 AM (GVxQo)

160 @ 125 I just Vulcan Mind Meld with the MAd Dog...

Posted by: clemenza at March 18, 2013 07:32 AM (HMQ8k)

161

#138

Let's call the movement the "Constitution Movement", then when there's enough cash, publicity, etc, it goes to "Constitution Party". Why not?

Posted by: fastfreefall at March 18, 2013 07:32 AM (MPEti)

162 "Safe, legal, and rare" is meaningless unless you mean exceptions for rape and incest. Can you explain? If itÂ’s already legal, why does there need to be an exception for rape and incest?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 18, 2013 07:32 AM (QF8uk)

163 O/T but just got my Heart tickets for the Wisconsin State Fair thanks to the reminder in the sidebar.

Posted by: H Badger at March 18, 2013 07:33 AM (n/0Nw)

164 So the Paulian isolationist of the last thread is now a moderate, inclusive big tenter in this thread. Oh, my.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 18, 2013 07:33 AM (ORGYc)

165

Youbetterrecognize_has_no_soul:

Then again, the Democratic party is built on mountains of dead babies, anti-Semitism, and the intolerance of "being tolerant".....

Posted by: crowsting at March 18, 2013 07:33 AM (61BD9)

166 147, no they did not. Those are the people that vote democrat, always has been.

Plus, as that report indicates, it's the same message as the 80's. Why isn't it inclusive now, when it was then? Same message.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at March 18, 2013 07:33 AM (i2Lsf)

167 The young voter is a product of leftard indoctrination. Out goal should be to educate the shit heads, not fucking succumb to their stupidity. You're absolutely right. But you're also wrong. When you tell someone that they're a "product of indoctrination," that will make them just as defensive as if you say, "you're stupid and lazy." That's the point. Once you say that, you've lost your opportunity because your audience has written you off. So you have to give them some sop; some reason to believe "hey, I'm not a bad/underinformed/stupid/lazy person, it's all those other bastards." Then they'll listen to you. At least, they'll give you a hearing. You can't just walk up to them and say, "You're shiftless and lazy; get a haircut and a real job!" Instead, you have to commiserate with them, you have to tell them "Look, I understand it's hard to get a job. The Democrats lied to you; they said all you had to do was get a degree- they never mentioned that they'd be giving you the equivalent of a mortgage that you'd have to start paying before you could land real employment." As long as we see them as our enemies, or even just as allies of our enemies, they'll see themselves as our enemies. That costs us with those demographics. We don't have to promise them the moon; most of them don't believe the Democrats will deliver it either. What they do believe is that he Democrats "mean well," and "are looking out for me." We have to break through that auditory barrier and get ourselves a fair hearing.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 07:33 AM (4OvDk)

168 154 141 clemenza Would not gassing them be cheaper? Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 11:31 AM (QIwIs) National SOCIALIST Party? Buelller?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2013 07:33 AM (XkWWK)

169 Here's a thought. Actually thinking.

When the media lays the abortion/rape/incest trap respond thusly.

"When you talk about rape and incest in the abortion context you are necessarily talking about EXCEPTIONS to a general rule of no abortions. But it makes little sense to discuss to talk about what the exceptions will or won't be before we've talked about what the main rule should be. So let's have that conversation. You good with a abortion being used as a birth control method in the late third trimester?" (Shocking how many are.)

Posted by: I Dunno at March 18, 2013 07:33 AM (u3N3z)

170 clean up on aisle 154

Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 18, 2013 11:32 AM (GVxQo)

Amen. That guy is a class one asshole.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 18, 2013 07:34 AM (bb5+k)

171 Conservatism is dead! The 21st Century has passed it by and its now a dying remnant of society.

Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 07:34 AM (QIwIs)

172 Seriously, you guys. We lost last November because the election oversampled Democrats. John Nolte and Numbers Muncher told me so.

Posted by: November 1, 2012 Republican at March 18, 2013 07:34 AM (7WkAU)

173 RE: Young Voters
------
This is a tough nut to crack. Methinks the cynical approach of tearing down and demonizing dems among this group is more productive. Cause them to be disenchanted with both parties so that they stay home. Worry about winning them over at a later date. To this end, I think attacking Obama from the left, such as the drone policy, is a good idea. I know its super-hypocritical, I think if and when Obama ok's the Keystone Pipeline, we should funnel money into left wing groups to run attack ads against Obama as betraying green movement.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 18, 2013 07:34 AM (UypUQ)

174
   Screw immigration "reform". What the hell is wrong with simply enforcing EXISTING law regarding immigration?

If you are in my country illegally--GTFO.

   Don't care one iota.

   If you follow the law, then here is my hand and help.

    Illegal? GTFO--all of you AND your family.

    Gay and want to be married?

     Tough shit--marriage is between man and woman.

    Use any advantages afforded by civil unions.

      Don't like these ideas? Tough shit, I am beyond sick of this garbage.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 18, 2013 07:34 AM (SAMxH)

175 Embrace the Brawndo.

Posted by: eleven at March 18, 2013 07:35 AM (KXm42)

176

>>>>We have to break through that auditory barrier and get ourselves a fair hearing.

We also have to get them to stop chasing squirrels. Easier said than done.

Posted by: Roy at March 18, 2013 07:35 AM (6SqJF)

177

I have to admit - I read the summary and.... well, DUH! More GOP consultant crap that restates the obvious. And the action plan is: ??

Can you punt on 3rd down?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 18, 2013 07:35 AM (n8LUb)

178 Rumors of the demise of either the GOP or the Democrats (depending which one got hammered in which election) are premature, incorrect, and a perpetual source of pundit fodder when other topical ideas dry up.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at March 18, 2013 07:35 AM (hLRSq)

179 no they did not. Those are the people that vote democrat, always has been.

This particular troll lives to "adapt" history to conform to its own delusions.

Ask it if it thinks its Chetnik grandfather fought against the Nazis, unlike every other Chetnik, for instance.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 18, 2013 07:35 AM (3zG7W)

180 Young voters are increasingly rolling their eyes at what the Party represents"

That's because young voters are increasingly stupid and lazy. Rarely do I meet non veteran kids in their early 20s that I don't want to slap the hell out of.

Posted by: UGAdawg at March 18, 2013 10:58 AM (osx1V)

And young voters want, more than anything else, to be "cool." That's how we got that feculent anal lesion squatting in the Oval Office. We'll see how long the fuckers roll their eyes when they have to sell their bone marrow to afford food.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 18, 2013 07:35 AM (zF6Iw)

181 I called StormFront a few hours ago, they actually don't want him back

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 07:35 AM (FsUAO)

182 Third Party Time ( it means I get to drink some more with my BFF Barry)

Posted by: Johns Boner at March 18, 2013 07:35 AM (vYB+W)

183 168 J.J. Sefton
Many Conservatives would love to gas Hispanics. Let's be honest about this. If left to many conservative's devices, Hispanics would be roundel up and gassed. Gays, Single Women, young people and Blacks would not be far behind.

Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 07:36 AM (QIwIs)

184 We surrender.

Posted by: La GOP Francaise at March 18, 2013 11:34 AM (vbh31)

Very good summation. The problem with the GOP is not it' current policy positions. The Problem with the GOP is that it allows every means of communication with the public to be controlled by Democrats.

If the GOP doesn't acquire media assets, it doesn't matter what positions it takes. The Democrat/Media complex will simply switch to degrading public support for whatever issue is left separating the Republican position from that of the Democrat position.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 18, 2013 07:36 AM (bb5+k)

185 Comprehensive immigration reform is always always always code for Amnesty. Any deal I would ever make on immigration would include "If you were over 16 when you came here, you *NEVER* get to be a citizen unless you repatriate and re-enter legally in the same line as everyone else.

And I am really tired of getting lectured about marriage by people who clearly don't understand it's history or purpose. Marriage as an institution is about control. Control of human relationships by society. Expanding government control of human relationships will only end badly.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at March 18, 2013 07:36 AM (0q2P7)

186 Good thing young voters don't vote very often, isn't it?

Posted by: Jay in Ames at March 18, 2013 07:36 AM (i2Lsf)

187 > But isn't that a bit of a scapegoat? Does anyone on our side really believe excessive CEO compensation is what ails our economy?

How hard would be it be to say something like, "Our economic system is the greatest in the world, and has allowed our nation to be a leader in technology and innovation. That said, we are committed as a party in making sure that the laws written to protect depositors and investors need to be enforced, and those in business in finance who engage in bribery, in theft, in illegalities, need to be prosecuted. We are the party of honest business."

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 18, 2013 07:36 AM (K1JW0)

188 Clean up on aisle 184.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 18, 2013 07:36 AM (bb5+k)

189 @172 can you not seek your fellow travelers elsewhere...

Posted by: clemenza at March 18, 2013 07:36 AM (HMQ8k)

190 182 HoboJerky
This blog is just a softer version of stormfront.

Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 07:36 AM (QIwIs)

191 130 117 liontooth
Too many Republican voters do hate minorities. The GOP can do all the outreach they want, but if a minority reads blogs like this, the true nature of Republican voters are revealed.Posted by: You better recognize

Democrats only like Minorities who stay on the plantation. They don't like people like Dr. Ben Carson, or Condoleeza Rice. They don't like women, either. I read comments on liberal sites, and those people are really scary.
Why are you still here, anyway? Do you think you are going to accomplish anything positive with your drivel?
How old are you, anyway? Does your mother know you are skipping school?

Posted by: ALH at March 18, 2013 07:36 AM (yAPdC)

192 Cleanup on aisle 184

Posted by: Mindy, hall monitor at March 18, 2013 07:37 AM (wk9P4)

193 awesome clean up

Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 18, 2013 07:37 AM (GVxQo)

194 MISSING GOP* *New Big Gulp carton advertising campaign** **scratch n' sniff

Posted by: renaissance woman at March 18, 2013 07:37 AM (XYSwB)

195 Let's call the movement the "Constitution Movement", then when there's enough cash, publicity, etc, it goes to "Constitution Party". Why not?

Posted by: fastfreefall at March 18, 2013 11:32 AM (MPEti)

Much as I'm for hammering home our belief in the country's founding principles, I think we need to rebrand our movement in a way that DOESN'T mention the Constitution. It's absolutely ridiculous to say so, but too many LIVs have had their minds poisoned when they hear the word "Constitution." It conjures up instant images of "right wing extremist militias." Because LIVs are idiots.

If we're going to appeal to the mouthbreathing LIVs, we need to appeal to them using their own terminology. I am not a mouthbreathing idiot LIV, so I don't know exactly what terms those would be, but I expect if you throw the word "Idol" in there somewhere you'll have a good start.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 18, 2013 07:37 AM (4df7R)

196 172 Conservatism is dead! The 21st Century has passed it by and its now a dying remnant of society. Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 11:34 AM (QIwIs) If America is so awful, why do millions of people risk their lives to come here? Then again, why are you still here? You'd be much happier in North Korea, no?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2013 07:37 AM (XkWWK)

197 If they pass amnesty, they can kiss my vote and money goodbye. Forever.

Posted by: Dan in michigan at March 18, 2013 07:37 AM (2yD4G)

198 You better recognize at March 18, 2013 11:36 AM (QIwIs)

Fuck You

Posted by: Robert "Sheets" Byrd at March 18, 2013 07:37 AM (vYB+W)

199 Posted by: eleven at March 18, 2013 11:35 AM (KXm42)

Idiocracy was a documentary.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 18, 2013 07:37 AM (bb5+k)

200 186 : MikeTheMoose
Put gays and Hispanics in camps. That would solve the problem.

Be real, you would do that if you can.

Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 07:37 AM (QIwIs)

201 "Many Conservatives would love to gas Hispanics."

When was the last time you actually spoke to a conservative (I mean in the mouth tweeting sense)?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2013 07:38 AM (0/zfR)

202

Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 11:36 AM (QIwIs)

You better go. Your Mama is pulling a train and you don't want to miss out.

Posted by: maddogg at March 18, 2013 07:38 AM (OlN4e)

203 Oh, it's Hector! I thought the syntax seemed familiar.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 18, 2013 07:38 AM (/kI1Q)

204 and it's back on 184

Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 18, 2013 07:38 AM (GVxQo)

205 If they pass amnesty, they can kiss my vote and money goodbye. Forever. If they pass amnesty, I donÂ’t think theyÂ’re going to care about your vote. When youÂ’re a permanent minority, what does it matter by how much?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 18, 2013 07:38 AM (QF8uk)

206 Clean up on aisle 184.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 18, 2013 07:38 AM (bb5+k)

207 164 So the Paulian isolationist of the last thread is now a moderate, inclusive big tenter in this thread. Oh, my.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 18, 2013 11:33 AM (ORGYc)

********************

Shape shifter.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 18, 2013 07:38 AM (n8LUb)

208 Let's call the movement the "Constitution Movement", then when there's enough cash, publicity, etc, it goes to "Constitution Party". Why not? Posted by: fastfreefall at March 18, 2013 11:32 AM (MPEti) That's already a real party. Full of Christian Right voters.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 07:38 AM (FsUAO)

209 My wallet UNEXPECTEDLY remains closed to the RNC.

Posted by: [/i]akula51 at March 18, 2013 07:38 AM (Vgn84)

210 We also have to get them to stop chasing squirrels. Easier said than done. Yep. But the first part of that is getting them to listen to us. Once they no longer believe Conservative = Evil, then when they start talking about nonsense, we have a leg to stand on when we say, "You're missing the point. Sure there will be legitimate exceptions, but those are, by definition, exceptional. We can't spend all, or even most, of our time thinking about those. We have to look at the general rule first, and then figure out how to handle any exceptions."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 07:38 AM (4OvDk)

211 Oh this guy smells mightily of Hector. Has he called anyone a Nativist yet?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 18, 2013 07:38 AM (da5Wo)

212 197 J.J. Sefton
America has rejected conservatism, deal with it. You are a relic of the past!

Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 07:39 AM (QIwIs)

213 MISSING Spine* *New GOP Big Gulp carton advertising campaign** **scratch n' sniff

Posted by: renaissance woman at March 18, 2013 07:39 AM (XYSwB)

214 184 168 J.J. Sefton Many Conservatives would love to gas Hispanics. Let's be honest about this. If left to many conservative's devices, Hispanics would be roundel up and gassed. Gays, Single Women, young people and Blacks would not be far behind. Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 11:36 AM (QIwIs) You mean leftists, of course. The body count is over 200 million. Since conservatism is about individual liberty and freedom, you surely must be wrong, no?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2013 07:39 AM (XkWWK)

215 Look at all these smart losers looking for permission to keep falling off the same cliff with our donations, time, and votes. 2008 forever! Good luck with that. The closer you get to the democrats the weaker and stupider you will look, the harder they'll hit you, the more they will be encouraged to move even further left, and the less conservatives will want to defend you, support you, and associate with you. The feedback loop you've set up doesn't CARE how bright and reasonable you think you look as you damage yourself and become a national laughingstock and political goat. Oh well. We tried to wake you up. Bye.

Posted by: Cackfinger at March 18, 2013 07:39 AM (CCHli)

216 Cracked had an article the other day on the myths of revolutionary war. Great point was:

1/3 of the country were tea party patriots
1/3 of the country were loyal to the throne
1/3 of the country was "meh"

Is anything different now? Except our resolve?

1/3 is the best we can hope for and, passionate enough, that is all we need.

Posted by: minxxy at March 18, 2013 07:39 AM (qxcKC)

217 lizzy please whack the troll but don't copy his offensive comments in your replies

Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 18, 2013 07:39 AM (GVxQo)

218 This
will be huge with the college crowd, twenty somethings and even thirty
somethings, it's a huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge issue. People go out of their way to make sure they are getting a GOP party of bible thumping KKK old cranks, they even pay way more for them.

Posted by: You better regurgitate at March 18, 2013 07:39 AM (Vgxrl)

219 When was the last time you actually spoke to a conservative (I mean in the mouth tweeting sense)?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2013 11:38 AM (0/zfR)

Don't smear troll shit in the thread. (meaning don't quote their offensive comments.)

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 18, 2013 07:39 AM (bb5+k)

220

MPPP: "feculent anal lesion"

It's rich, visual imagery like this that keeps me coming back to the HQ day after day. Ah, the english language. Poetry!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 18, 2013 07:39 AM (4df7R)

221 184 168 J.J. Sefton Many Conservatives would love to gas Hispanics. Let's be honest about this. If left to many conservative's devices, Hispanics would be roundel up and gassed. Gays, Single Women, young people and Blacks would not be far behind. Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 11:36 AM (QIwIs) i wouldnt even waste gas on you

Posted by: Avi at March 18, 2013 07:39 AM (z9OI2)

222 but I expect if you throw the word "Idol" in there somewhere you'll have a good start.

Or "Real."

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 18, 2013 07:39 AM (/kI1Q)

223 200 Lizzy
I used to be a conservative. The bigotry and hatred turned me off.

Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 07:40 AM (QIwIs)

224 Oh I get it. He's a Concerned Christian Voter!

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 07:40 AM (FsUAO)

225 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2013 11:39 AM (XkWWK)

Don't smear troll shit in the thread. (Yeah, I found out the hard way too.)

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 18, 2013 07:40 AM (bb5+k)

226 210 197 J.J. Sefton America has rejected conservatism, deal with it. You are a relic of the past! Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 11:39 AM (QIwIs) Well, judging from the residents of blue state shitholes who suffer from Stockholm syndrome, i.e. allowing the Democrats to keep them enslaved post 1964, I'd say you are right. A large portion of our population has been completely brainwashed by leftists from K through PhD.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2013 07:40 AM (XkWWK)

227 Please don't reprint the comments of the troll. It's being trollbusted. Let the software do its thing.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 18, 2013 07:41 AM (TOk1P)

228 RE: Marriage
-----
I'm worried that this issue will cause the GOP to be riven by pro and against. I'm wondering if the idea to get the state governments completely out of the marriage business might be a good idea. Just have a blanket "civil union" license, with no ceremony necessary, and let people do the marriage thing in private churches.

We should pick a state to be a pilot program for this idea.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 18, 2013 07:41 AM (UypUQ)

229 I brush my teeth with smegma.

Posted by: You'd better recognize at March 18, 2013 07:41 AM (fWAjv)

230
Executive Summary

Burn money pandering to minority voters who will never vote Republican, while advocating polities to piss off the few remaining Republican voters.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2013 07:41 AM (kdS6q)

231 Gee. And now QIwIs is a leftist raging against the genocidal GOP and its racist denizens at the HQ.

I'm betting his next incarnation will be as a Vietnamese tranny hooker.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 18, 2013 07:41 AM (ORGYc)

232

198 If they pass amnesty, they can kiss my vote and money goodbye. Forever.
*******************************************

With the current ideoloy in place, the money part is nearly over. With amnesty, they will never need your vote.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 18, 2013 07:41 AM (n8LUb)

233 #104 HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer

Ok, I should have expanded on the evils a bit more. Like high taxes, high unemployment, high medical insurance rates and costs, deciding what you can and cannot eat, government intrusion into our daily lives, cronyism, that kind of thing.

Those thing, one would think, would be more important than the a party's view on gay marriage.

Posted by: Marmo at March 18, 2013 07:41 AM (QW+AD)

234
i wouldnt even waste gas on you

Posted by: Avi at March 18, 2013 11:39 AM (z9OI2)

He produces enough gas on his own. His verbal flatulence is already stinking up the place. Time to open a window I think.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 18, 2013 07:41 AM (bb5+k)

235 The cob-loggers are software?

Posted by: andycanuck at March 18, 2013 07:42 AM (ORGYc)

236 218 Posted by: andycanuck at March 18, 2013 11:41 AM (ORGYc) I think it's the return of Gerg, although Gerg seemed more intelligent than this thing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2013 07:42 AM (XkWWK)

237 *Sorry*

Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2013 07:42 AM (0/zfR)

238 I think it's the return of Gerg, although Gerg seemed more intelligent than this thing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2013 11:42 AM (XkWWK)

It's Hector.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 18, 2013 07:43 AM (da5Wo)

239 yeah it appears to be erased

Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 18, 2013 07:43 AM (GVxQo)

240 I go to work to support all the Travelers and 29 year old movers and shakers in their parents basement playing Warcrafter for the masses... All the love And someone please stomp that annoying leftist fucker into a spot and walk it dry forever... Carry On..

Posted by: clemenza at March 18, 2013 07:43 AM (HMQ8k)

241 >>>In my humble (and possibly dumb)

Have you ever considered there to be anything that you wouldn't compromise on? You expect folks that believe abortion is murder to give up on overturning Roe V Wade? Simply pushing to make it a State's choice again is too radical? Well I guess some chasm's can't be bridged then.

If the next generation is so morally empty that they cannot see the hazard of devaluing human life as abortion does, they have much much greater problems ahead of them, and they will not long be free.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at March 18, 2013 07:43 AM (0q2P7)

242 "198 186 : MikeTheMoose Put gays and Hispanics in camps. That would solve the problem. Be real, you would do that if you can. Posted by: You better recognize at March 18, 2013 11:37 AM (QIwIs)" I don't even want to gas highly emotional bullshit fed idiots like you. I just don't want the country following your stupid advice because when they do it hurts real people including the dull witted, hysterical, useful idiots like you.

Posted by: Cackfinger at March 18, 2013 07:44 AM (CCHli)

243

222 -

Sure. It looks better if you let them believe you have a magic ray gun.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 18, 2013 07:44 AM (TOk1P)

244 Ahh, the pure, unadulterated wisdom of Washington Republicans.......do what the other guys did and we'll get elected.

Posted by: booger at March 18, 2013 07:44 AM (HI6wa)

245

MWR,

I see your point. If the goal was mostly LIVs, it could be something that on the surface, especially for a LIV to refute, the Martin Luther King movement, using some of his quotes as part of the mission statement. Who in their right mind would be against something that has MLK as their ensign? Wouldn't that turn the tables a bit on the LIVs and those that call themselves tolerant, etc?

Posted by: fastfreefall at March 18, 2013 07:44 AM (MPEti)

246 If the next generation is so morally empty that they cannot see the hazard of devaluing human life as abortion does, they have much much greater problems ahead of them, and they will not long be free. Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at March 18, 2013 11:43 AM (0q2P7) If the GOP gives up on abortion, at the RoeVWade level or state level, I might as well quit the party. I'd be done with them. There are at least some libertarians that would stand up to it.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 18, 2013 07:45 AM (FsUAO)

247 In the future, everyone will be gay for 15 minutes.

Has it been 15 minutes yet?

Posted by: You better regurgitate at March 18, 2013 11:24 AM (Vgxrl)

Sandy Fluke Me: And a tranny. Can't forget the trannies!!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 18, 2013 07:45 AM (1Jaio)

248 polynikes said: Of course DrewM thinks the unwritten subtext of the report is that Romney was a terrible candidate and the campaign was terrible.

He thinks the subtext of the ingredient list on the back of the cereal box says that Romney was a terrible candidate and the campaign was terrible.

And don't forget to read Drew's previous *blog post* from which small corner of the world he secretly diagnosed all that is wrong. Because if only we followed him, the world would be whole and right...

...still a fucking tool.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at March 18, 2013 07:45 AM (jhI6f)

249

So what they're saying is that they avoid shrinking the party to just its core constituencies by means of tossing the core constituencies out and appealing to people only marginally "with us" even at the best of times?

I'm all for it. I've been calling for the destruction of the GOP for years. This will certainly do just that. Maybe we can replace it with something else, once it falls apart.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at March 18, 2013 07:46 AM (YYJjz)

250

*tilts head*

*pokes "you'd better recognize" with a pointy stick*

I think it's bacterial in nature, judging by its blobby structure and diseased mindthoughts. Notice how my prodding stick vanishes deep into the blubbery folds of its corpulent midsection. I've never seen such an obese specimen of groteque morbidity. It's quite frankly enormous.

It's not a troll. It's a space station!

...

No, wait, my bad. It's a troll. Just a really, really fat troll, wearing an armband and holding up a copy of Mao's Little Red Book. Someone grab the Formula 409.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 18, 2013 07:46 AM (4df7R)

251 i think spending ten million for a car with a bullhorn screaming "we're not racists anymore" driving through the inner cities with the doors locked and rolling at high speed is a good investment for the GOP

Posted by: Bigby's OK at March 18, 2013 07:46 AM (WT63E)

252 LOL, "you better recognize," reporting from Cyprus* *looks good from here!

Posted by: renaissance woman at March 18, 2013 07:46 AM (XYSwB)

253 I'm worried that this issue will cause the GOP to be riven by pro and against. I'm wondering if the idea to get the state governments completely out of the marriage business might be a good idea. Just have a blanket "civil union" license, with no ceremony necessary, and let people do the marriage thing in private churches. We should pick a state to be a pilot program for this idea. Posted by: Serious Cat at March 18, 2013 11:41 AM (UypUQ) not a bad idea. on principle im not opposed to gay nuptials. business can save money on partner benefits( unless they marry), gays will sue each other for assets after they break up instead of violence etc. my issue is that they then seek validation by suing bakers and social halls that dont want them or rewriting school books etc. tolerance is not moral equivalence)

Posted by: Avi at March 18, 2013 07:47 AM (z9OI2)

254
It's Hector.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 18, 2013 11:43 AM (da5Wo)

Is Hector the one married to a Latina, therefore giving him Absolute Moral Authority (tm) to talk about amnesty? Or something?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 18, 2013 07:48 AM (4df7R)

255 mwr 409? vinegar isn't strong enough anymore.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 18, 2013 07:49 AM (GVxQo)

256 409? vinegar isn't strong enough anymore.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 18, 2013 11:49 AM (GVxQo)

Maybe vinegar mixed with bleach?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at March 18, 2013 07:49 AM (4df7R)

257 409? vinegar isn't strong enough anymore..... Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 18, 2013 11:49 AM (GVxQo) Maybe vinegar mixed with bleach? And gasoline. Then lit.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2013 07:51 AM (GFM2b)

258
Recommendations:

Establish an RNC Celebrity Task Force of personalities in the entertainment industry to host events for the RNC and allow donors to participate in entertainment events as a way to attract younger voters.

"And now the man you students have waited all afternoon to see -- Mr. Kelsey Grammer!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2013 07:51 AM (kdS6q)

259 Until we, as a conservative movement, have a coherent solution to reaching voters -- be it by side-channel means around the media or by buying the media channels themselves -- we will be unable to win national elections consistently.

The Showtime 'documentary' I just saw on Dick Cheney reminded me of this simple fact. It's not a documentery when you stack the deck against the man you're discussing, it's shaping history.

A simple cursory walk through the events of Benghazi on September 11th, 2012 and the fact that 6 months on, we still haven't talked to those who were present when an American ambassador was assassinated, nor is there any desire to investigate now -- not to mention while there was a democratic president to re-elect -- is all you need to see how far down the rabbit hole we are.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at March 18, 2013 07:51 AM (jhI6f)

260

New GOP Message: Can't find a job? Thank a Democrat.

Raiding your 401k for living expenses? Thank a Democrat.

Underwater on your home loan? Thank a Democrat.

Groceries cost more? Thank a Dem.

Saddled with a college loan you can't pay back? Thank a Dem.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 18, 2013 07:51 AM (+z4pE)

261 It's real easy to win guys. Just do what the Democrats are doing but BRAND it as ours. Embrace their winning platform, but put enough spin on it to trick the old fogies and hillbillies to vote for us instead of them. That's it, guys.

Posted by: Meghan Mccain at March 18, 2013 07:51 AM (Bv9qa)

262 Can't afford to fill up your car's tank? Thank a Democrat.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 18, 2013 07:53 AM (+z4pE)

263 Can't read this sentence? Thank a Democrat.

Posted by: eleven at March 18, 2013 07:55 AM (KXm42)

264 The Growth & Oppoutunity Project which prepared the report the RNC would like your feedback. http://tinyurl.com/boxb2k3

Posted by: olddog in mo at March 18, 2013 07:58 AM (Ijr/x)

265 Everything that is hopelessly and irreparably broken with this country can be summed up with this:

Melissa King, Miss Teen Delaware.

Just days after her senior prom Melissa hopped a plane, signed a release, let a total stranger pork her and ... uh .... finish ... on her fa... well you get the picture ... all for $1500 relatively easy dollars.

Melissa's clearly not the deepest thinker in the cause and effect and consequences of one's choices department and in that she is a perfect exeemplar of tens of millions of American voters -- perfectly capable of letting some stranger screw the hell out of her future for a few easy bucks today.

What that understood, think about what message the Republicans could ever hope to put together that might entice a Melissa to vote for them that would not just be some slightly diluted version of the Democratic platform? Where do you suppose Melissa stands on the subject of gay marriage? abortion rights? immigration? deficit spending and entitlements?

Who do you suppose Melissa voted for in 2012?

Posted by: Pessimist at March 18, 2013 07:59 AM (u3N3z)

266
12. Groupthink Is a Loser

Peggy Noonan recently wrote about how our Party has stifled debate and how groupthink has taken over.

The committee went to an "outsider" like Peggy Noonan for her opinion on bringing in new ideas....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2013 07:59 AM (kdS6q)

267 >>>Be real, you would do that if you can.

well that escalated quickly.

Why would I do that again? Because I suggest someone who openly and knowingly breaks our laws should not be Naturalized as a Citizen?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at March 18, 2013 08:00 AM (0q2P7)

268

The marriage issue is just stupid. Most young people don't want to get married anytime soon, they are just sheep listening to idiots like Jon Stewart drone on and on about this being a big civil rights issue. They were never taught what civil rights actually are, so they are gullible to this argument and to phrases like "marriage equality." And to the concept of "acceptance of homosexuality = acceptance of same sex marriage."

If I were running for office and were asked about SSM, I would say "no opinion." If pressed, I would say "I have more important things on my policy agenda than something that matters to 1% of the population. Like getting 47 million people off of food stamps and 20 million off the unemployment rolls. If you can tell me how same sex marriage will help solve either of those crises, I'm all ears."

Posted by: rockmom at March 18, 2013 08:00 AM (NYnoe)

269 Is Hector the one married to a Latina, therefore giving him Absolute Moral Authority (tm) to talk about amnesty? Or something?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 18, 2013 11:48 AM (4df7R)

Yup. His "wife" is Bolivian or or Peruvian or some made up shit.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 18, 2013 08:00 AM (da5Wo)

270 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 18, 2013 11:33 AM (4OvDk) ______ BRAVO !! As my brother-in-law never learned you won't get very far by calling someone a fucking cocksucker (his kids) as a motivational tool, it tends to piss people off when you insult them the heck out of them.

Posted by: Tom at March 18, 2013 08:00 AM (uLCJ+)

271

Come on! This report is a bunch of BS. Credit Obama for a good ground game, but ultimately there should have been no contest. The american people are dumbed down, bought-off, and obsessed with banal entertainments... all helpfully provided by a culture and media that has become hard-core Left Wing. You want a post-mortem? Do one on the American electorate.

But if the GOP thinks salvation lies in preserving big government domestically, while backing the more's of the social & cultural Left, along with nationalizing a bunch of illegals who will line up to vote for the Dems, then have at it. They'll lose 3 conservatives for ever vapid twenty/thirty-something urbanite faux-libertarian they attract.

Posted by: SamInVA at March 18, 2013 08:01 AM (rFiOs)

272 "217 Executive Summary Burn money pandering to minority voters who will never vote Republican, while advocating polities to piss off the few remaining Republican voters. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2013 11:41 AM (kdS6q)" Yep. Who among those who believe in Utopia can be enticed to vote for the slower road to Utopia? If you believe in Utopia you vote for the fastest way there. We need a party who can convince the Utopians that there is no Utopia, just the misery and tyranny and collapse that inevitably comes from chasing it. How can we be embracing social democracy as it is blowing up in Europe? Well the answer is that we have not made the case that what is being attempted is transfer to European social democracy and that it is failing in Europe. Instead we make the case that we are willing to transfer to Social Democracy we just don't want to do it all at once. That is not a significant or attractive position to EITHER side. Those who don't believe in Utopia won't follow someone who claims that they do, and those who do won't follow someone who says we should go there very very slowly. Thus we end up with truncated support from the right and derision from the left and from the confused low information middle who vote left because they believe in Utopia. They because in it no one has convinced them that utopia is just an expensive and futile dream with horrific consequences that will eventually Unravel the wealth that they grew up with and leave them as poor serfs on subsistence until that subsistence can no longer be supported. What comes next (within 20 years) is the kind of horror show stuff that marked the 20th century's darkest times. Depression. Malaise. Possibly strong man single party rule. The kids don't fear this because a lot of these kids saw and learned very little about the 20th century and can't imagine a Zimbabwe or Cambodia happening here. They just heard how racist and bad for the earth their dad secretly is and how smart they are for having been in public school and learned about recycling. In fact I doubt these kids would even expect a 90's France, Italy, or Japan to happen here. We need to work hard to fix this not just go along with the dumbed down, ignorant, emotional, thin skinned judgmental kids and hope they like us. They don't understand that Captain Planet was an obnoxious cartoon. They think it is real and that they are stopping a cartoon pig man who wants to dump the contents of an oil tanker into the ocean just because he is mean and rich and wants to pollute the planet. Letting these kids go on living in such a stupid cartoon in the hopes that it will win us more votes is unconscionable. But we are doing exactly that, and we will reap what we sow.

Posted by: Cackfinger at March 18, 2013 08:02 AM (CCHli)

273 So, short version is: Let's half-ass copy the policy positions of the Dems.

Gee, can't see why that hasn't been working for the last 20 years . . . .

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 18, 2013 08:02 AM (VjL9S)

274 247.

Good luck with that.

Now try ours.

Can't find a job? Blame Bush.

Raiding your 401k for living expenses? Blame Bush.

Underwater on your home loan? Blame Bush.

Groceries cost more? Blame Bush.

Saddled with a college loan you can't pay back? Blame Bush.

Ours has the advantage of ... well ... us.

Posted by: Mainstream Media at March 18, 2013 08:03 AM (u3N3z)

275
His "wife" is Bolivian or or Peruvian or some made up shit.
Posted by: BCochran1981

Round-heeled Peruvian mail-order bride with a thing for Mexican gardeners.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2013 08:09 AM (kdS6q)

276 Hmmmm..."underwhelmed," Drewsie?is what happens when you get locked in the outhouse without toilet paper to wipe the semen out of your belly button? Let's seeÂ… What is the "document" say: gay-rights, amnesty, no more "epistemic closure" (trans.: "No, the world is not a knucklehead world), let's all stop being racists, please. Oh, and there are poor people in the world who need help. Basically, the future of the Republican Party will include no more invitations to teabaggers & socons. Goodbye, knuckleheads.

Posted by: andrew breitbart, Minority Outreach Chairman, in Hell at March 18, 2013 08:13 AM (E2JNd)

277 Gay marriage is not the problem it's the religious liberty we all lose if it's legal that's the problem. If you're a wedding photographer and don't want to shoot gay weddings for religious reasons, tough cookies. Shoot the wedding or get sued to oblivion. Personally I don't care if you want to marry a horse. I wish you luck! But don't make unwilling people participate under threat of legal action. This isn't about liberty it's about government forcing everyone to "tolerate" a gay life style at the expense of religious life styles.

Posted by: Nate in New Orleans at March 18, 2013 08:17 AM (lhX9P)

278 241 MWR,

who is a Chetnik or something....

yes yector there seems to think my wanting Mexico's immigration and border enforcement laws hell he can even keep 'em in Spanish is "holocaust"...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 18, 2013 08:19 AM (LRFds)

279 The GOP-e are scumbags who will adopt gay marriage and illegal alien citizenship (that will take what's left of our jobs) in effort to be "popular." Morals, ethics, will of the people and adherence to laws currently unenforced beyond their comprehension.

Posted by: GreenEyes at March 18, 2013 08:20 AM (nu16a)

280 253 LDC,

yeah it's tough being a RiNO...

no seriously being a moderate who sleeps with MSNBC is hard on Piggy...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 18, 2013 08:21 AM (LRFds)

281 Dude, get over the Romney suxxors crap already.

We are not just one good candidate away from winning the White House. Our problems are much bigger than that.

Posted by: UtahMan at March 18, 2013 08:27 AM (p1tb6)

282 Shorter GOP..we're no longer pretending to be Democrat Lite, we are now officially Democrate Lite.

Posted by: Jon in TX at March 18, 2013 08:30 AM (PYAXX)

283 That's not a plan of action. That's terms of surrender--their own. RIP, GOP.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Whisperer at March 18, 2013 08:32 AM (fMiHM)

284 Ideals are so yesterday. If we water our principles down we will win! Some people argue for fewer policy positions held strongly, guided by a belief in small government and personal liberty, a growing economy and reasonable fiscal discipline. Those people are not who wrote this report. So, lets all just get along, accept our defeats gracefully and try to moderate ourselves so we are acceptable in polite society.

Posted by: Reinventing Preibus at March 18, 2013 08:50 AM (+GpbP)

285 27 I'm all for free markets, but why is every call for stopping banks from ripping off their customers (JP Morgan, Maddoff, Corzine, etc) or pointing out that giving management fat bonuses for failure is stupid (Hostess, etc) met with calls of derision? Note in the management instance I'm not even calling for any kind of legal action, merely saying pointing it out as shitty would probably help. In the bankster case some of those clowns should be in jail. While financiers and businessmen are essential to our economy, they aren't doing God's work, and our side putting them on a pedestal is just as stupid as the Left and their entertainment industry worship. Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 18, 2013 10:59 AM (K1JW0) ----------------------------------------------------- THIS!! Public sector or private sector, people with access to power and money are always exposed to the temptation to be corrupt. The same elitist group-think that let Nancy Pelosi use Air Force One to do her grocery shopping allows CEO's to reward themselves with multi-millions when they lay off people with little or no severance pay. The advantage to the private sector is supposed to be a risk/reward ratio, but for some people in the upper echelons that no longer exists. It used to be that if you destroyed a company, you were kicked out and were in disgrace. Nowadays, if you focus on short term changes to increase the value of your stock options, and destroy the company by ignoring long-term concerns, you still walk away with your golden parachute, and a few years later, you get hired as a CEO somewhere else. When you totally erase morality from the marketplace , the marketplace doesn't work very well, either. This is one reason why the Obama campaign was able to paint a decent man like Mitt Romney as a monster--because some of his peers really are. William Buckley objected to the unseemliness of managers giving themselves financial rewards for laying people off--it would be a good theme for us to pick up again.

Posted by: Burke at March 18, 2013 08:52 AM (CrqI6)

286

To address the substance of the post.

1. End chain migration

2. End birthright citizenship of non-citizens

3. No benefits to illegals. Period. End of sentence.

4. Fix border security

5. Go after employers who knowingly hire illegals

6. No federal gay marriage. It will end up violating the religious freedoms guaranteed by the 1st amendment. If states want to offer up something that allows for visitation, inheritance, etc, then go for it. But they can't force companies to accept domestic partners for health care benefits. They shouldn't give preferential tax treatment to gay unions either. All you are doing is providing some legal protections for basic contract stuff.

7. Outreach? Sure. But not directed at Hispanics or anyone else. You have to make your case that Dem big government is the equivalent of slavery. That corruption, including crony cap, is the same thing they fled in some of their home countries. That free markets, personal responsibility, and the rule of law are the only path to freedom and liberty.

8. Don't try to demogogue bad business decisions. If Hostess screws their workers over, that's on Hostess. Quite playing the class warfare game with the Dems. The economic pie is not a zero-sum game. Sure, there are winners and losers in some deals, but there are also winners and winners. Otherwise, GDP would essentially be static.

9. No more bailouts. Period. End of sentence. Put law-breakers in jail. The market, if properly functioning, will deal with people who make bad business decisions.

I've never contributed to the RNC and if this is their plan, I never will. I will continue to back individual candidates directly or through trusted organizations. The GOP can go the way of the Whigs for all I care.

Posted by: Jon in TX at March 18, 2013 08:55 AM (PYAXX)

287 "we must embrace and champion comprehensive immigration reform"

Horse shit.

We've got TWO separate groups of people who would LOVE to be immigrants to the US.

1) People in their home countries, following the rules, processing the paperwork, obeying the laws, trying to become citizens.

2) People who violated our borders, often engaged in Identity theft to work here, ignoring our laws.

Why the hell would you want group #2 and accept pushing back group #1 to a later date (if ever) to get group #2?

Do we really have such a shortage of people willing to violate the laws for personal gain that we'd import them and move them to the front of the line?

Why not just tell current citizens we'll have a punishment-free crime week if we really need more crimes to be committed in the US. If that isn't the goal explain why we're rewarding people who ignore the law.

Posted by: gekkobear at March 18, 2013 08:58 AM (X0NX1)

288 The GOP gets 90% of its votes from whites. The GOP base is white conservatives and can't be anything else. The GOP has been wooing blacks, Hispanics and so on for decades. It never works. Face reality. The base is white, and will remain so. Therefore anything that drives down whites, absolutely and as a share of the population is death on the GOP. Mass immigration does so. Continuous mass immigration plus forced integration (for the whites, while the non-whites are "empowered" to play us vs. them games) means eliminating white people over time. It certainly means dis-empowering them politically. Anyone who intends to support any conservative value has to oppose mass immigration, which is death on the conservative base, without which no conservative positions can hold. Amnesty is an incentive for more mass immigration. "Comprehensive immigration" reform is amnesty.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at March 18, 2013 09:12 AM (7Muw1)

289 Like I've been saying, for a political movement to have meaning, it needs a violent arm. The Democrats have mastered strongarm tactics and utilize the implicit (and explicit) use of force. The GOP needs to project strength and menace toward its enemies during this current era of tribal era politics, or the example I've been using, IRA to Sinn FÃ©in.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 18, 2013 09:15 AM (Ec6wH)

290

So a bunch of consultants came up with an After-Action Assessment that says that everything that went wrong wasn't their fault.

I wasn't expecting anything else - no one should have expected any of those guys and gals to admit they were wrong and fall on their swords in penance. If you were expecting selfless behavior from a bunch of professional politicians and their lackeys, well seek psychiatric help.

And everybody seems to hyperventilating about the suggestions they've thrown out - basically mimic the other guys. Again, you are surprised that professional lackeys would come up with that plan? Seriously? And these "policy suggestions" are going to be adopted slavishly by every GOP politician out there - that also seems to be part of the heart-ache. Can anyone tell me one reason why a representative or senator, state or federal, would do that? If that guy or gal is in office than they've proven they can weather the Obama storm, they don't need to follow the advice from these consultants.

Please stop the over-emotionalizing, it is embarrassing to watch "conservatives" do so. This too will pass and in a few years we will hear the Left wailing, like all of the other "permenent majority" political swings in this country that haven't actuall been anywhere but some pundits fevered mind as he peddles his latest book.

Sheesh.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at March 18, 2013 09:20 AM (hLRSq)

291 While the left is gloating (correctly) about how the browning of America means permanent victory for them, you have to be disingenuous and disloyal, not just dumb, to miss the point. You have to be paid and bribed to miss the point. I think that is what's happening. The big donors want mass immigration, and they're bribing people to be for it regardless of the interests of the nation or party.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at March 18, 2013 09:21 AM (7Muw1)

292 They are losing national elections while winning governorships because the national GOP machinery does not stand for the same things all those GOP governors stand for: small government and free enterprise.

I read the report through the "people-think-we-don't-care" part, and my opinion of the GOP continues to decline.

Posted by: Ken at March 18, 2013 09:28 AM (4gfJI)

293

Posted by: Chromoly Man at March 18, 2013 01:21 PM (7Muw1)

Yes, because FDR's coalition meant permanent victory for the Left. Until it didn't. There are no permanent victories in American coalition politics, and anyone who believes so needs to look over American political history once more.

Because LBJ so crushed Goldwater that there would never be another GOP president, until there was. And Reagan squished Mondale so hard the Democrats were permanently barred from the White House, until they weren't. and the Democrats would hold Congress forever, right up to the point they lost it.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at March 18, 2013 09:30 AM (hLRSq)

294 I read the report through the "people-think-we-don't-care" part, and my opinion of the GOP continues to decline.

Posted by: Ken at March 18, 2013 01:28 PM (4gfJI)

The GOP everywhere, or these people playing a game of CYA?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at March 18, 2013 09:32 AM (hLRSq)

295 Oh, you can still have two party politics - provided both parties are institutionally anti-white and socialist. That doesn't contradict permanent victory for the left. That is permanent victory for the left. You get a choice of two leftist parties.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at March 18, 2013 09:35 AM (7Muw1)

296 That doesn't contradict permanent victory for the left. That is permanent victory for the left. You get a choice of two leftist parties.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at March 18, 2013 01:35 PM (7Muw1)

History begs to differ. And I will not further waste my time with a defeatist; one who is arguing surrender just fervently as any panicky "me-too" consultant in DC.

Funny thing - I don't recall ever seeing your nick around here before. And yet here you are, counseling surrender. Peculiar the way that works out.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at March 18, 2013 09:40 AM (hLRSq)

297 My position adds up. The conservative base is 90% white. Collaborating with plans to eliminate that base means going along with the end of conservatism. Mass immigration plus forced integration means elimination for whites. Immediately, it means less and less political power. And - in the second term of Obama this should not need to be spelled out - race trumps all when you have enough non-whites voting racially, as Hispanics and Asians do, not just blacks. Racial voting trumps the economy, it trumps gender as Hillary discovered in 2008, it's boss. The left are gloating correctly that the browning of America, brought about by mass immigration and incentivized by amnesties, means they win, forever. Conservatives have to fight on mass immigration or they lose everything. There's no third alternative.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at March 18, 2013 09:57 AM (7Muw1)

298 Yikes!

And we wonder why the GOP is the Oldsmobile of political parties. It really seems like the depth of their knowledge about politics is what they've read on Twitter.

#FairPay4FairWork
#LuvHasNoGender
#OpenBorders4Dems

Completely oblivious to the most important truth: Government makes things verifiably worse and fails at everything it attempts. It's also completely corrupt.

Perhaps they can't accept such a platform because it exposes them as the hacks they are.

Posted by: Random Moron from California at March 18, 2013 10:46 AM (6orKY)

299 "liontooth
Too many Republican voters do hate minorities. The GOP
can do all the outreach they want, but if a minority reads blogs like
this, the true nature of Republican voters are revealed."

ALH, Why don't you enlighten us where all of this minority hate is at on this blog

Posted by: liontooth at March 18, 2013 11:14 AM (xk0Xg)

300 What's a "veteran strangest"?

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at March 18, 2013 11:42 AM (zpqa2)

301 My theory on why we lost?

#1 Akin and Mourdock : 1-2 points lost from female voters, gave traction to War on Women nonsense

#2 Romney being rich and seemingly out of touch: 1-2 points in Rust Belt

#3 Romney being a Mormon: 1-2 point in rural parts of the country that were afraid the Book of Mormon would be required reading in all Sunday schools.

#4 Hurricane Sandy: .5 to 1 point from Obama looking "Presidential"

Had 1.5 points shifted to us, we would have won, but the Democrats/MSM acted like it was some Reagan landslide.

Had the same amount of Republicans showed up in 2004, we would have won an epic landslide. We won independent voters handily, had our team showed up, it would have been a stomping.

Posted by: McAdams at March 18, 2013 12:11 PM (zK9uN)

302 Chromoly Man at March 18, 2013 01:57 PM

Are you engaging in some kind of performance art, or is there there another reason that you are portraying so well the left's "race-obsessed Republican" stereotype?

Posted by: Ken at March 18, 2013 12:33 PM (4gfJI)

303 All RINO crap...all of it...

Anti-corporate stances, immigration reform in favor of loosening standards, appealing to "young voters"...who don't vote and are uninformed anyway.

Can we please ditch the establishment morons who keep advising us into electoral losses by having us lightly embrace things we don't believe in?

For fucks sake!

Posted by: SGT. York at March 18, 2013 01:17 PM (H1IKD)

304 Posted by: Ken at March 18, 2013 04:33 PM (4gfJI) - The left is race-obsessed. More to the point, they have a racial strategy, and it works. After the re-election of a bad president with a dog of an economy, on a racial basis, with the winning card being "cares more about people like me" in an electorate where "people like me" is defined more and more racially, that's obvious. When the other side has an aggressive strategy that makes X the key issue, and it works, you have to fight on X. In this case, X is race, so conservatives have to fight over mass immigration and race, but whatever X is, you would have to fight on it. You can afford to ignore perennial loser strategies but not winning ones. Some people make it a point of pride that "only the left cares about race". That doesn't work. All that means is, the left gets its way on every issue that it says is racial. Of course it says everything is racial. So like it or not, and it's obviously not, conservatives have no choice but to try and conserve the white conservative base. You cannot let the mass of whites be forced out of existence by mass immigration and forced integration. Thinking you cal let that happen and still win is like a general thinking he can let his army all get killed and still win because he's a super-genius. Mass immigration (which amnesty encourages and which is what "comprehensive immigration reform" is all about) is fatal for the white conservative voting base. That makes it a hill to die on.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at March 18, 2013 04:10 PM (+ZiVy)

305 289 Anti-corporate stances, immigration reform in favor of loosening standards, appealing to "young voters"...who don't vote and are uninformed anyway. - Right. It's a RINO report. And blaming Romney doesn't work. He was the best candidate available and he ran a diligent campaign that was bad only because any establishment campaign would have been bad.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at March 18, 2013 04:15 PM (+ZiVy)

306 Anything out of the "Republican Party" amuses me these days. Witnessing their end might have been a sad thing, but unfortunately, they made it seem a glad thing.

RIP GOP

Posted by: Born Free at March 18, 2013 10:24 PM (htomV)

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