August 20, 2013
— Ace So they say.
But the GOP is conservative in temperament if not in actual policies so they'll probably just do what they've always done and let Brian Williams and George Stephanopolous rig their debates for them.
The biggest change under consideration is a move to break the connection between debates and television news organizations. Under today's system, news networks sponsor almost all the debates. They control the moderators, content, and production, and in the end exclusively broadcast the program."Why can't we have more than one outlet?" asks Ari Fleischer, the former Bush White House spokesman who served on the RNC's reform committee and is still in touch with officials on debate and other issues. "One of the options could be for the RNC to sponsor its own debates, to spend a serious amount of money to build a set, design it, organize it, run it, and make the feed available to all, so that it could be broadcast on numerous outfits."
That leads to the inevitable issue of who will ask the questions. "The RNC has to pick credible, challenging, realistic, independent moderators," says Fleischer. The field of choices, he adds, is wide open. "It could be a conservative radio personality, a conservative columnist, a former White House aide or presidential campaign aide, someone who has been there before."
The media will not broadcast these things, because the media has a Guild interest in insisting that only what they do is "news" and anyone not in the Guilt purporting to sell "news" is an unlicensed scab who is selling false news knockoffs.
That said, who cares? The most interested people will watch these things online. Those are pretty much the primary voters.
The media isn't going to deligitimize itself.* Someone actually has to stop talking about it at some point and actually do it.
* Of course they have deligitimized themselves, but a brand, or a family dynasty, or a country, can turn corrupt and hollow but still linger on for years on the strength of its previous reputation and accumulated stock and contracts.
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Posted by: Really? at August 20, 2013 12:10 PM (ukp+x)
Moderator??? What I would love to see???
Bush and Cheney.... call it a Job Interview...
Who better to figure out who could do the job, than those who already did it?
Posted by: Muslum Brother at August 20, 2013 12:10 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 20, 2013 12:11 PM (8sCoq)
Even if they end up doing nothing, it is good that they complain about rigged debates, though.
It always angers me when the debates are so obviously poorly moderated or rigged and the GOP says *nothing* about it. They act like the MSM is perfectly respectable out of fear.
At least if they make enough noise about bias in the debates, it will affect the way many people view them.
Posted by: dan-O at August 20, 2013 12:11 PM (D0bIN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2013 12:12 PM (jE38p)
Posted by: David at August 20, 2013 12:12 PM (iI++U)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2013 12:12 PM (HxkwP)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 20, 2013 12:12 PM (ZPrif)
Of course they have deligitimized themselves, but a brand, or a family dynasty, or a country, can turn corrupt and hollow but still linger on for years on the strength of its previous reputation and accumulated stock and contracts.
Fuck you ace, you want to tell me something, say it to my face.
Posted by: JR Ewing at August 20, 2013 12:13 PM (t06LC)
I know I only watched them online.
While they are at it, they can eliminate the questions from the plants in the audience.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 20, 2013 12:13 PM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 20, 2013 12:13 PM (wgvDh)
Look at Todd Akin. He was massively ahead in the polls and cruising to an easy victory. The sensible thing to do would have been to completely avoid the media until the victory speech.
What happened instead? Akin at his own direct insistence went on television and gave the infamous interview about women having magic rape sperm detectors in their reproductive plumbing.
Because, attention whore.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2013 12:13 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 20, 2013 12:15 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Buzzion at August 20, 2013 12:16 PM (CpD4c)
[Of course they have deligitimized themselves, but a brand, or a family dynasty, or a country, can turn corrupt and hollow but still linger on for years on the strength of its previous reputation and accumulated stock and contracts.]
Are you talking about the GOP or the media?
Posted by: Warden at August 20, 2013 12:16 PM (HzhBE)
Posted by: Iblis at August 20, 2013 12:16 PM (9221z)
The media lies.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 20, 2013 12:17 PM (wgvDh)
Well, the Gin-grinch actually did prominently point out that the moderators were essentially acting as Democratic auxiliaries, and that their questions were ridiculously biased. Told them that to their faces.
But, there was no point in going with the angry guy when, the GOP donor class told us, we had the smooth calm smiling Romneybot 3000 who would be so much more effective with swing voters.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2013 12:17 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 20, 2013 12:18 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 20, 2013 12:18 PM (/PCJa)
The GOP's priority will be finding right leaning moderators who support amnesty and will happily slander Tea Partiers and libertarians.
Posted by: Warden at August 20, 2013 12:18 PM (HzhBE)
Posted by: soothsayer lightfoot at August 20, 2013 12:19 PM (AAxKL)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 20, 2013 12:19 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 20, 2013 12:19 PM (/PCJa)
All things in moderation. Including conservatism!
Posted by: Warden at August 20, 2013 12:19 PM (HzhBE)
Letting know democrat flacks, Step, etc, moderate is fucking insane.
Hell a lottery pick of the moderators would have been fairer.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 20, 2013 12:20 PM (wR+pz)
Might have to look to gardening clubs rather than the media for something like that...
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 20, 2013 12:20 PM (wgvDh)
Posted by: Candy Crowley busting through a brick wall at August 20, 2013 12:20 PM (jTgAg)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at August 20, 2013 12:21 PM (pginn)
Come see the new production of Brokeback Mountain!
Featuring the media as Jack Twist, and the GOP as Ennis Del Mar.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2013 12:21 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: zsasz at August 20, 2013 12:21 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2013 12:22 PM (jTgAg)
Did you mention a blogger. Get a good blogger in there. Someone who has been a good writer, researcher, speaker, and investigator. Someone with credibility. Let them ask questions. Let the mainstream media be damned when it comes to complaining about who the GOP picks to do debates. I also say Prager, Hewitt, Brett Baer, and or Stephen Hayes.
C-span? Or even an internet feed. Why aren't there more radio debates? I know the TV is a top marketing tool, but they need to think outside the box.
Just a thought.
Posted by: arlene at August 20, 2013 12:22 PM (bQDx5)
Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at August 20, 2013 12:23 PM (p7BzH)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2013 12:23 PM (jE38p)
Posted by: soothsayer lightfoot at August 20, 2013 12:24 PM (AAxKL)
Posted by: GOP Elite at August 20, 2013 12:24 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: David at August 20, 2013 12:24 PM (UtRhK)
Posted by: Hal at August 20, 2013 12:25 PM (MftY/)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at August 20, 2013 12:25 PM (pginn)
Posted by: panzernashorn at August 20, 2013 12:25 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 20, 2013 12:25 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 20, 2013 12:25 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2013 12:26 PM (jE38p)
And... may I suggest...
A web page.... where people can suggest questions... and then VOTE on them?
And the Moderator then has to ASK them as written?
So we the people.... would actually have a choice in what was asked?
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 20, 2013 12:26 PM (lZBBB)
Recall that a huge contingent of the Northeastern "conservative" types in the media, the Krauthammers and Noonans and the like, reacted with total horror to Sarah Palin.
"That _accent_. The _snowmobiles_. And did you know she _hunts animals_? With a gun? A gun! And then FEEDS them to her _children_? No, no, this simply won't do. The woman is horribly declasse. An embarrassment to ourselves. Far better to go with that fellow with the impeccable trouser creases and perfectly polished shoes."
Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2013 12:27 PM (gqT4g)
don't even let them on the campaign planes- make them charter their own
and charge them admission to campaign events- say, $100 per person, $250 for a TV camera
leave the MFers outside, looking in
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 20, 2013 12:27 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: The Stupid Hurts at August 20, 2013 12:27 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: David at August 20, 2013 12:27 PM (UtRhK)
"A moderator who can bring it"
Posted by: Whack the Mole at August 20, 2013 12:28 PM (omBWL)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2013 04:23 PM (jE38p)
Me either...
Posted by: Alabama at August 20, 2013 12:28 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: soothsayer lightfoot at August 20, 2013 12:28 PM (AAxKL)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 20, 2013 12:28 PM (HDgX3)
But, there was no point in going with the angry guy when, the GOP donor class told us, we had the smooth calm smiling Romneybot 3000 who would be so much more effective with swing voters.
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The reasons that were provided (and evidently accepted) for not running with Newt had nothing to do with his anger. Rather, it was various ideas for programs that he came up with while Speaker that weren't particularly conservative.
Posted by: junior at August 20, 2013 12:29 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 20, 2013 12:29 PM (mSAq8)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 20, 2013 12:29 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: MoeRon at August 20, 2013 12:29 PM (uRxX2)
Posted by: The Stupid Hurts at August 20, 2013 12:29 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: David at August 20, 2013 04:27 PM (UtRhK)
Maybe.... maybe not... but the fact is that most of the Pundits, and the Washington insiders, have no clue about whats important to we, the People.
Posted by: Alabama at August 20, 2013 12:29 PM (lZBBB)
get that long-legged semi-crazy Canadian chick who started out with Gutfeld on 'Red Eye'
How about no?
She was certifiable. There are enough crazies out there. We don't need one fucking up the debates.
Posted by: EC at August 20, 2013 12:29 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2013 12:30 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: joncell at August 20, 2013 12:30 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 20, 2013 12:30 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 20, 2013 12:30 PM (QF8uk)
>>>"This question is for Mr. Santorum. Mr. Santorum, can you briefly outline the mathematical proof of the Pythagorean Theorem?"
It was my understanding that there would be no math.
Posted by: Chevy Santorum at August 20, 2013 12:30 PM (XMDuf)
Lots of new Twinkies in Phoenix, but I can't have any....Will take one home to my beautiful wife, but she is Korean and probably won't like it anyway....
Korean groceries have a lot of Twinkie knock-offs that taste like shit. Show your Korean wife how it's supposed to taste.
Posted by: EC at August 20, 2013 12:31 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 20, 2013 12:31 PM (/PCJa)
"spend a serious amount of money to build a set, design it"
Or, and I'm just blue-skying it here, we could just have the candidates sit around a table in a simple studio and discusses issues.
No, that's silly. Gotta have the giant eagle backdrop and steps up to the computer graphic laden podiums.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2013 12:31 PM (kdS6q)
Anddddd...
May I suggest we have the guy from RedEye do his 'Halftime report'?
To point out inaccuracies?
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 20, 2013 12:31 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: L, elle at August 20, 2013 04:23 PM (0PiQ4)
Ace won't show up in public to get an award. Something tells me a moderator with a bag over his head won't work out too well.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 20, 2013 12:31 PM (wR+pz)
Is jwest here? Because I left him/her/it a giddy little rejoinder in the previous thread, and I'd love his/her/it's response.
Other than that, I have this to say: Fuck the GOP.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at August 20, 2013 12:31 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 20, 2013 12:31 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2013 12:31 PM (HxkwP)
Posted by: EC at August 20, 2013 04:31 PM (GQ8sn)
Haha, I've been to Korea a number of times and I swear, most of their snacks are just terrible.
Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at August 20, 2013 12:31 PM (p7BzH)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 20, 2013 12:31 PM (qyfb5)
I'm actually completely fine with asking candidates basic math questions.
Given that the current Resident has admitted trouble when helping his daughters out with their seventh grade math homework, you have to figure he would be in real trouble when the SAT exam excerpt percentages and fractions showed up.
Shit, I'd love to spring the question with no warning, "Sir, can you tell us how many billions there are in a trillion dollars?"
No real "math" there, just a basic definition. And a huge percentage of American adults actually can't answer that question.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2013 12:31 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 20, 2013 12:32 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 20, 2013 04:31 PM (wR+pz)
It'd add mystery. Like a Mexican luchadore.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at August 20, 2013 12:32 PM (4df7R)
Those wanker's at NBC and CBS should never be allowed to broadcast presidential debates because of extreme bias.
Posted by: ABC Debate Buttboys at August 20, 2013 12:32 PM (pJF+c)
Posted by: MoeRon at August 20, 2013 04:26 PM (uRxX2)
Eh. Ace would spend the whole debate staring at Megyn's tits and miss his cues.
Posted by: joncell at August 20, 2013 12:32 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: David at August 20, 2013 12:32 PM (UtRhK)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2013 12:32 PM (bn3hB)
Posted by: redenzo at August 20, 2013 12:32 PM (vx61Q)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 20, 2013 12:32 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2013 12:33 PM (HxkwP)
Posted by: MoeRon at August 20, 2013 12:33 PM (uRxX2)
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at August 20, 2013 12:33 PM (XrGnJ)
Posted by: Ian S. at August 20, 2013 12:33 PM (B/VB5)
Yeah you're right. The whole welfare reform and tax cut thingy he forced Clinton to sign was totally communist.
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Yeah, because as everyone knows, suggesting a few technocratic "let's get the government involved in more stuff" programs means that there is NO WAY WHATSOVER that you would *ever* vote to reform welfare and/or cut taxes.
/rolleyes
Posted by: junior at August 20, 2013 12:33 PM (UWFpX)
Think about this: Barack Obama totally sucked in all the Democratic debates in 2008. But he beat Hillary anyway. His campaign made a conscious decision not to give a shit about the debates, and go around the media gatekeepers who had already crowned Hillary Queen. Obama himself acted during the debates like he could not care less, was not terribly prepared, disdained Hillary and the other candidates, and generally thought the whole thing was a big joke. The whole time, though, he was using New Media to get his message out, ID his voters, and get them to the caucuses and polls. He was raising buckets of money and buying TV, radio, and Web ads like crazy. He was narrowcasting messages through specialty cable TV, radio, and social media.
The GOP has plenty of road maps to do this. It is not rocket sciece. And not a person can blame them for blowing up and blowing off the MSM in the next campaign, after what it has done to the Republican Party over the last 10 years.
Posted by: rockmom at August 20, 2013 12:33 PM (aBlZ1)
Posted by: joncell at August 20, 2013 04:32 PM (RD7QR)
And that's a problem because...?
Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at August 20, 2013 12:33 PM (p7BzH)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 20, 2013 12:34 PM (HDgX3)
Haha, I've been to Korea a number of times and I swear, most of their snacks are just terrible.
The asian snack food market is good in only certain items, but totally shit in others. Copying western snack foods like twinkies is something they can't do right. Making snack foods like Pocky is what they're good at.
Posted by: EC at August 20, 2013 12:34 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 20, 2013 12:34 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 20, 2013 04:31 PM (VtjlW)
I know, it's almost like they assume that being inside the beltway grants you an instant understanding of what issues are important.
Because they're aren't people outside the beltway who spend incredible time studying things like...I don't know..healthcare for example.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 20, 2013 12:34 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 20, 2013 12:34 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 20, 2013 12:34 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: joncelli at August 20, 2013 12:35 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 20, 2013 12:35 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 20, 2013 12:35 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: LibertarianJim (team #letitburn) at August 20, 2013 12:35 PM (XMDuf)
Posted by: imp at August 20, 2013 12:35 PM (L9AnB)
Posted by: The Stupid Hurts at August 20, 2013 12:35 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: t-bird at August 20, 2013 12:35 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 20, 2013 12:36 PM (/PCJa)
Now, we know Ace is protective of his anonymity, so if you want to get a conservative blogger who would be a lot of fun to see doing this, may I suggest Jeff Goldstein?
Ace went on Fox News! He doesn't care about that.
Posted by: EC at August 20, 2013 12:36 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: MoeRon at August 20, 2013 12:36 PM (uRxX2)
I think so too.
Putting on their own debates would cost a significant amount of money, with no guarantee that it would be aired. An online-only broadcast would get a fraction of the views, allowing the MSM to frame the candidates performances in the aftermath.
And for fuck sake, don't even think about playing ball with NBC.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 20, 2013 12:36 PM (SY2Kh)
But she has to be on a pogo stick.
Posted by: CAC at August 20, 2013 04:34 PM (gNjpW)
She's compromised. As her uncle helped pass the incandescent light-bulb ban.
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 20, 2013 12:36 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: David at August 20, 2013 12:36 PM (UtRhK)
Did someone just seriously propose having a member of the O.J. Simpson defense team moderate the Republican debates?
Hey, I'm available!
Posted by: Zombie Johnnie Cochran at August 20, 2013 12:37 PM (gqT4g)
My beautiful wife's favorite TV snack is dried squid....'nuff said
I know exactly what you mean.
Posted by: EC at August 20, 2013 12:37 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 20, 2013 12:37 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 20, 2013 04:32 PM (QF8uk)
WTF is this, Common core?
I get the "billions in a trillion" question, but asking how many "dollars" in a trillion dollars is like asking "How many meters in a 100 meters? Explain."
Posted by: tsrblke at August 20, 2013 12:37 PM (GaqMa)
93 -
Amazing, wasn't it? The guy actually walked out on stage, with two options:
Option 1: Continue to hammer on the media, hammer Mitt, based on conservative principles, thus securing your party's nomination for President,
or
Option 2: Promote a fruitless multi-trillion dollar, almost literal pie-in-the-sky plan with absolutely no chance of being enacted, thus crushing your chance of ever being nominated, let alone elected President of the United States.
Newt chose Option 2. Because he's Newt.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2013 12:37 PM (TOk1P)
since the tank-in-the-mud incident, yeah
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 20, 2013 12:38 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at August 20, 2013 12:38 PM (L2tNR)
Posted by: Roy at August 20, 2013 12:38 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: Eton Cox at August 20, 2013 12:39 PM (q177U)
The best moderators would be liberals who hold conservative views in one or two areas. Like say Alan Dershowitz who is a hard core lib, but a big 2A proponent. Have him as questions on guns. And so forth.
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If you want someone like that, grab Mickey Kaus. The guy ran against Boxer in the Democratic Primary last time she was up. And when she ignored the debate that he'd challenged her to, he had a cardboard box as a stand-in for her.
Posted by: junior at August 20, 2013 12:39 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2013 04:12 PM (HxkwP)
Its a canklelanche! Flee!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Spleen! Now with Oxidizers! at August 20, 2013 12:39 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 20, 2013 04:32 PM (4df7R)
Never thought of that. Actually all the audience could think of looking at a guy with the bag on his head would be just another Panther's fan.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 20, 2013 12:40 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2013 12:40 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2013 12:40 PM (uVkIH)
I have no problem with a conservative and a liberal moderator, fair and balanced, but the faux moderate actual leftist like Crowley in charge must end. The Benghazi deflection was a horrible moment in so-called neutrality. Obama clearly was blaming the video and the Copt right through the UN speech two weeks later.
And I still wonder why she had a copy of Obama's speech handy.
Posted by: Beagle at August 20, 2013 12:40 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 20, 2013 12:40 PM (A7zvX)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 20, 2013 12:41 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2013 12:41 PM (HxkwP)
Because they don't do that now. LIVs don't watch the debates, they watch Jon Effing Stewart frame them.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 20, 2013 12:41 PM (B/VB5)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 20, 2013 12:41 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Marco Rubio at August 20, 2013 12:41 PM (FcR7P)
That's what Biden and Ryan did.
I don't recall much serious discussion of issues having resulted from the format.
It's not the layout of the debate studio. It's not podiums versus desks. It's the moderators who are in active collusion with the Democratic Party. No competent and fairminded mod would have let Biden noisily interrupt _every single sentence_ coming out of Ryan's mouth.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2013 12:41 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: rockmom at August 20, 2013 04:33 PM (aBlZ1)
Actually Bambi had the most help from (A) Hillary's hubris and (2) Gaming the caucus system. But point taken.
Posted by: joncelli at August 20, 2013 12:41 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 20, 2013 12:41 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Arbalest at August 20, 2013 12:41 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 20, 2013 12:41 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2013 04:40 PM (T0NGe)
I don't know, he reminds of that rule a commenter just proposed in this thread that candidates be allowed ten times the amount of time it took to ask the question... Robinson takes a long time to ask his questions....
Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at August 20, 2013 12:42 PM (p7BzH)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 20, 2013 12:42 PM (A7zvX)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 20, 2013 12:42 PM (QF8uk)
#84 - why have "random question" debates at all? How about loosely moderated debates on particular topics of interest to Republican voters: immigration, spending and size of government, tax reform, federalism, family decline, education reform, national security, health care, etc. There are enough topics that one could be assigned to every state in the early primaries. Have a state GOP leader act as timekeeper only, and then let the candidates discuss the topic for 60 or 90 minutes. This eliminates the "gotcha" mentality of the questioner, the obscure-nobody-gives-a-shit-about-this questions - and it also vastly lessens the use of canned "debate zingers" by the candidates. Voters will see who is strong and weak on each subject and get some in-depth discussion and not a bunch of sound bites and talking points.
Posted by: rockmom at August 20, 2013 12:42 PM (aBlZ1)
Posted by: The Stupid Hurts at August 20, 2013 12:42 PM (oDCMR)
God NYC is fucked up. Ace, why didn't you run. Ewok in a paper bag would be better than this crowd.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 20, 2013 12:43 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2013 04:40 PM (T0NGe)
It'd never work. You can't have six final questions per debator.
Posted by: Austin in TX at August 20, 2013 12:43 PM (3cp3C)
Posted by: t-bird at August 20, 2013 12:43 PM (FcR7P)
Just got back from the dental implant surgeon. Going to have implants. Yay!
As for the repubs cutting out the MFM, it's a smart move. BUT it's a long time before 2016 and I'll have to see it to believe it.
They should also opt for only 4 debates instead of the bajillion they had in 2012.
Posted by: Soona at August 20, 2013 12:43 PM (CRoF9)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 20, 2013 12:43 PM (VtjlW)
It's the moderators who are in active collusion with the Democratic Party.
Posted by: torquewrench
I was just assuming a neutral moderator.
"And now with tonight's questions, Shepard Smith."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2013 12:44 PM (kdS6q)
In August.
With very weak air conditioning.
Jus' sayin'
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2013 04:41 PM (HxkwP)<<
THIS!
Posted by: Muad'dib at August 20, 2013 12:45 PM (KjlbF)
Posted by: rockmom at August 20, 2013 04:42 PM (aBlZ)
^^This
Although I'd settle for compound debates with multiple "rounds" so we don't have to have 40 debates again.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 20, 2013 12:45 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Mochelle at August 20, 2013 12:45 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at August 20, 2013 12:45 PM (pginn)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2013 12:45 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2013 12:46 PM (HxkwP)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 20, 2013 12:46 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 20, 2013 12:46 PM (HDgX3)
Looks like the NY Slime is totally fucking disgusted with the mayor's race. Yesterday they did a fluff story on Quinn's wife,
Posted by: Billy Bob
Did you see the wedding photo? The wife wore the traditional pants suit, Quinn wore a white wedding dress -- which is probably legit since she's never touched a man.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2013 12:47 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: soothsayer lightfoot at August 20, 2013 12:47 PM (AAxKL)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at August 20, 2013 12:47 PM (pginn)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 20, 2013 12:47 PM (VtjlW)
Debates gave become boring and predictable, so let's go with the Octagon for a few classic beat-downs.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 20, 2013 12:48 PM (pJF+c)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 20, 2013 12:48 PM (VtjlW)
If conservatives got to moderate the Democratic debates -
"Senator, you've clearly marked out your position as pro-choice. But the Democratic Party has a very sizable minority of voters who feel that abortion on demand is tantamount to murder. How would you go about convincing these individuals that they should vote for you?"
Posted by: junior at August 20, 2013 12:48 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Spleen! Now with Oxidizers! at August 20, 2013 12:49 PM (hLRSq)
177 -
Everybody forgets, when Trump was trying to push himself as a debate moderator, Perry was the first guy to say "nope, not gonna do it." Others followed, while the lightweights committed to it. Eventually, they stopped talking about such nonsense.
Why? Because the candidates refused to play that game. The candidates could dictate this. If they want.
Somehow I don't see Jeb or Jabba the Jersey Traitor saying no to the networks.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2013 12:49 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 20, 2013 12:49 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: joncelli at August 20, 2013 12:49 PM (RD7QR)
@170
Man, I read implants and totally skipped over the dental part. I was happy for a second there. Dental implants are a gift to you, booby implants are a gift to the world. And I think you're a dude. So there is that. But, yea boobies!
Posted by: Jollyroger at August 20, 2013 12:49 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: The Stupid Hurts at August 20, 2013 12:50 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 20, 2013 12:50 PM (8sCoq)
Or we could stick with the wrestling theme and let the candidates have a throwdown. I'll bet Sarah does a mean suplex.
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Yeah, but who are you gonna get out there that's gonna be capable of giving Christie a body slam?
Posted by: junior at August 20, 2013 12:50 PM (UWFpX)
#174 I would settle for 10 debates, each on a different topic. If you don't care about education, don't watch that one. Most everyone has one or two issues they care about more than the others, so they could just watch those debates and read about the rest or watch later online. It wouldn't feel like 40 debates or even 10 debates for most people except the political junkies.
I think this format would be so wildly successful that the Democrats would be forced to go along with it in some fashion for the general election debates. Republicans should absolutely refuse any debates with journalists as moderators, questions from the audience or idiots on YouTube, etc.
Posted by: rockmom at August 20, 2013 12:51 PM (aBlZ1)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 20, 2013 12:51 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at August 20, 2013 12:51 PM (pginn)
You haven't lived until you've been on a 3-hour train from Seoul to Pusan when everyone pulls out their dried squid.
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Or Japan Airlines when all the people in coach break out their sack lunches. *blech*
Posted by: Soona at August 20, 2013 12:51 PM (CRoF9)
Posted by: Candy Creepy Crawly at August 20, 2013 12:52 PM (XvHmy)
Whoa, let's not get too crazy here. O_O
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 20, 2013 12:52 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 20, 2013 12:52 PM (qyfb5)
Yeah, but who are you gonna get out there that's gonna be capable of giving Christie a body slam?
Posted by: junior at August 20, 2013 04:50 PM (UWFpX)
Frontrunner is the dumbest sum'bitch in Congress, Sheila Jackson Lee.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 20, 2013 12:52 PM (pJF+c)
@197
No one would have to. All an opponent would have to do is walk just outside Chrisies reach at a moderately brisk pace for around 2 minutes. Exhaustion and gravity will do the rest.
Posted by: Jollyroger at August 20, 2013 12:52 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: DangerGirl, full of sweet rage at August 20, 2013 12:52 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at August 20, 2013 12:53 PM (4p5/2)
Is this a question for Gabe?
With men, I just it's catcher vs pitcher? But women? Strap on vs strapless?
Help an old white guy out here.
Posted by: Mochelle at August 20, 2013 12:53 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: The Stupid Hurts at August 20, 2013 12:53 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Albert Einstein at August 20, 2013 12:53 PM (XvHmy)
Posted by: The Low Information Voters at August 20, 2013 12:53 PM (pginn)
That's why the licenses now read "Party A" and "Party B."
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 20, 2013 12:54 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 20, 2013 12:54 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: brak at August 20, 2013 12:54 PM (iEoiA)
Yeah, but who are you gonna get out there that's gonna be capable of giving Christie a body slam?
Posted by: junior
Toss his car keys on the floor and see if he can bend down to pick them up.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2013 12:54 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 20, 2013 12:54 PM (XvHmy)
@214
Which one? The booby comment or the Christie joke?
One was a frosty natural light of jokes, the other a warm scotch.
Posted by: Jollyroger at August 20, 2013 12:55 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 20, 2013 12:55 PM (VtjlW)
But then, who speaks for us?
Posted by: The Low Information Voters at August 20, 2013 04:53 PM (pginn)
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You guys actually *watch* debates?
/confused
Posted by: junior at August 20, 2013 12:56 PM (UWFpX)
Brian Lamb.
Posted by: W.C. Varones at August 20, 2013 12:56 PM (FL7kh)
Or we could stick with the wrestling theme and let the candidates have a throwdown. I'll bet Sarah does a mean suplex.
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Yeah, but who are you gonna get out there that's gonna be capable of giving Christie a body slam?
Posted by: junior at August 20, 2013 04:50 PM (UWFpX)
Maybe all the other candidates and a block and tackle?
Posted by: joncelli at August 20, 2013 12:56 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2013 12:56 PM (uVkIH)
That's why the licenses now read "Party A" and "Party B."
Yeah, but they self identify as Husband and Wife. Re Quinn and her "wife" and that guy running for congress in NY and his "husband"
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 20, 2013 12:56 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: soothsayer lightfoot at August 20, 2013 12:57 PM (AAxKL)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 20, 2013 12:57 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: L, elle at August 20, 2013 12:58 PM (0PiQ4)
How do ghey's decide who is the "Wife" and who is the "Husband"
Throw a spider into the bath tub. Whoever kills it is the husband.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2013 12:58 PM (kdS6q)
Amazing. A Lufthansa 747 just lifted off as it passed by me --- how can something so big be so graceful?
Posted by: soothsayer lightfoot at August 20, 2013 04:57 PM (AAxKL)
True dat.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 20, 2013 12:58 PM (wR+pz)
Nobody outside our little bubble knows or cares what Pat Cadell says.
Posted by: soothsayer lightfoot
You wouldn't be confusing Cadell with Dick Morris, would you?
Because Cadell was saying from the nomination that Romney was a disaster in the making.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 20, 2013 12:58 PM (hSwFv)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2013 12:58 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at August 20, 2013 12:58 PM (/y16L)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 20, 2013 12:58 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 20, 2013 12:59 PM (V1ZIU)
I hold no high hopes for the sudden, unexpected growth of a spine by the RNC or the GOP Establishment as a whole, in this or any other matter. They represent the interests of the big money donors--the same big money donors who desperately want amnesty, for example, because the influx of millions of suddenly legitimized low wage workers will keep down per-hour labor costs across the board, especially in agriculture, construction and the service industries. These driving, monied interests could give a damn if those sweet, cheap labor costs hurt working and lower-middle class families--the people formerly known as Reagan Democrats who the Republican Party really needs to reach to remain viable as a political party.
Christie's their guy in 2016 as Romney was in the last election and McCain before that. Romney...McCain...does anyone see a pattern here? Screw the GOP Establishment. They don't know shit from a hole in the ground. I say go populist, run a conservative, and never look back.
Posted by: troyriser at August 20, 2013 12:59 PM (V9ol4)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2013 12:59 PM (HxkwP)
More often as Wife and Wife or Husband and Husband.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 20, 2013 12:59 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 20, 2013 01:00 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: RWC at August 20, 2013 01:00 PM (fWAjv)
I just don't see how this is even a close call. What could possibly be the other side of the debate, from a GOP perspective?
The Democrats shouldn't get to interview our candidates repeatedly when the opposition never gets interviewed. After watching George Snuffleupagus and Candy Crowley et al do their thing last go round, it's clear that these debates are really just hostile interviews with state propaganda organs and do nothing positive for GOP candidates.
Posted by: MTF at August 20, 2013 01:00 PM (B5y+v)
@229
Along those lines, do you call them Mr. or Miss (Mrs.) or what? This is why every society since the dawn of humanity has shunned gays. It creates so many possible faux pas in social circumstances. "How did I know it was a post op tranny, he still had the adam's apple? Fuck it, no more gays" - Stuff Ramses I said.
Posted by: Jollyroger at August 20, 2013 01:00 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at August 20, 2013 01:01 PM (/y16L)
Posted by: Null at August 20, 2013 01:01 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: The Low Information Voters at August 20, 2013 01:02 PM (pginn)
Debates have never entered into my decision making on a candidate. Nor does the ability to make a good speech enter into the decision. Strike that, the complete failure at both can factor into a decision but sans failure, not a blip on my screen.
I like to look at the body of work and reputation among his peers. I'm actually probably one of the few here who thinks endorsements are important. Endorsements from people whose own body of work I respect.
Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2013 01:02 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: soothsayer lightfoot at August 20, 2013 01:02 PM (AAxKL)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 20, 2013 01:02 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2013 01:02 PM (HxkwP)
Posted by: t-bird at August 20, 2013 01:02 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 20, 2013 01:02 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Vincent Laguardia Gambini at August 20, 2013 01:02 PM (iEoiA)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 20, 2013 01:03 PM (/PCJa)
So it's "Husband and husband" and "Wife and wife."
It's almost like they think those words don't have meaning.
WHAT THE FUCK? So why do they self identify in a newspaper?
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 20, 2013 01:03 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 20, 2013 01:03 PM (8sCoq)
do you call them Mr. or Miss (Mrs.) or what?
Posted by: Jollyroger
The correct answer is....?
I'm sorry, that was a trick question. There no correct answer. Whatever you call them will be deemed hetro-normative hate speech and will result in you being called into the HR Office.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2013 01:04 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at August 20, 2013 01:04 PM (/y16L)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 20, 2013 01:04 PM (/PCJa)
Christie's their guy in 2016 as Romney was in the last election and McCain before that. Romney...McCain...does anyone see a pattern here?
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Kinda like how Jeb Bush was their guy earlier this year?
I think I'll wait and see how this plays out. One more thing to keep in mind was that Romney was the runner-up in the 2008 primary. That had as much to do with his heir apparent status as anything else did.
Posted by: junior at August 20, 2013 01:04 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 20, 2013 04:59 PM (V1ZIU)
Which reminds me. There might be some good moderaters from the conservative Hollywood crew. Gary Siniese (sp) would be a good one.
Posted by: Soona at August 20, 2013 01:05 PM (CRoF9)
In a sane world our leader would be chosen in the arena using only war hammers, battle axes, and two handed swords.
In short, Newt Gingrich would rise from the ashes victorious.
Posted by: Jollyroger at August 20, 2013 01:05 PM (t06LC)
246 -
I don't know about any of that, but I do know P.J. O'Rourke once said something about the fact that in some parts of Mexico, the natives have a word for the female genitalia that is pronounced "miss."
They love to follow young, unmarried Eurotrash female tourists around saying "Oh miss, can I help you with that?" And other such things.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2013 01:05 PM (TOk1P)
How do ghey's decide who is the "Wife" and who is the "Husband"
That's why the licenses now read "Party A" and "Party B."
Yeah, but they self identify as Husband and Wife. Re Quinn and her "wife" and that guy running for congress in NY and his "husband"
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 20, 2013 04:56 PM (wR+pz)
Dominance. Top/aggressor is male, bottom/passive is female. It's easier to tell with lesbians because the top is the one driving the Volkswagen Beetle.
Posted by: joncelli at August 20, 2013 01:05 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: caustic at August 20, 2013 01:05 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 20, 2013 05:03 PM (8sCoq)
Those thighs need slimming down.
There a comment. Also braces for the overbite.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 20, 2013 01:06 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2013 01:06 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2013 05:04 PM (kdS6q)
Goddammit. I guess I'm the person in charge of that here. Man, this is going to be embarrassing...
Posted by: Jollyroger at August 20, 2013 01:06 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2013 01:06 PM (uVkIH)
Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2013 01:07 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: joncelli at August 20, 2013 05:05 PM (RD7QR)
FIFY
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 20, 2013 01:07 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 20, 2013 01:07 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: caustic at August 20, 2013 01:08 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Buzzion at August 20, 2013 01:08 PM (CpD4c)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at August 20, 2013 01:08 PM (/y16L)
an then telling Cris Christie to quit suckin up to Obama
swearsies!
Posted by: lolGOP at August 20, 2013 01:08 PM (EZl54)
Posted by: NCKate at August 20, 2013 01:08 PM (kwl+3)
This next question isn't a question.
All of the candidates will run up and down this flight of stairs until one of you cannot continue due to cardiac arrest.
Begin.
Thank you for your participation, Governor Christie, you will be missed.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 20, 2013 01:09 PM (CJjw5)
In a sane world our leader would be chosen in the arena using only war hammers, battle axes, and two handed swords.
In short, Newt Gingrich would rise from the ashes victorious.
That fat bastard would have a heart attack trying to lift a battle axe and would call you inhumane for advocating for self deportation with his last dying breath.
Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2013 01:09 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2013 01:09 PM (uVkIH)
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 20, 2013 05:03 PM (8sCoq)
The people who actually watched it are busy right now. IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: joncelli at August 20, 2013 01:09 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2013 01:10 PM (m2CN7)
@282
I'm not a fan of Newt's but I am going to say anyone bat shit crazy enough to propose a moon base knows their way around a war hammer, and anyone who can come up with a press release like he did is not only prepared but has wargamed out how to use it.
I don't get that vibe from any one else except for maybe G. Gordon Liddy.
Posted by: Jollyroger at August 20, 2013 01:11 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Buzzion at August 20, 2013 01:12 PM (CpD4c)
Posted by: Jollyroger at August 20, 2013 05:11 PM (t06LC)
He was a college professor for gosh sakes. How do you get that vibe? : )
Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2013 01:14 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2013 01:15 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Jollyroger at August 20, 2013 05:11 PM (t06LC)
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Does that ole fart still have a radio program? The last time I listened to him he was instructing the audience where to shoot ATF agents if they smash in your door. "Aim for the face or the neck. There's no armor there".
Posted by: Soona at August 20, 2013 01:16 PM (CRoF9)
All of the candidates have been given stapleguns and a stack of dollar bills. The first candidate to staple thirty dollars worth of dollars to his opponents' bodies will have two minutes of unrebuttable speaking on the topic of his choosing.
Begin.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 20, 2013 01:16 PM (CJjw5)
287 -
Newt reminds me of the kind of guy who attends mideival times fairs. Sure, he has the costume, he can talk to the talk, but it's just talk. And you can't get him to shut up or break character, even for his own good.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2013 01:16 PM (TOk1P)
@288
I was going to say meth, but it turns out he is born again and going to be in the Expendables 3 so good for him.
Posted by: Jollyroger at August 20, 2013 01:16 PM (t06LC)
A bit difficult to implement if they're going to have 18 people on stage again (or whatever it was).
Pick the top 4 legitimate candidates, and let the vanity campaign freaks go peddle their books and audition for Fox News gigs on their own dime.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 20, 2013 01:16 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: scofflawx at August 20, 2013 01:16 PM (hcgfJ)
Posted by: Megan McCain's Bike Seat at August 20, 2013 01:17 PM (uUq75)
Doesn't matter how many times you hit the space bar. If you insert/edit here, it WILL throw words together on you. Usually the worst possible combinations too.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2013 01:18 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 20, 2013 05:16 PM (tWmgi)
Seriously? What state are you in?
Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2013 01:18 PM (m2CN7)
The number of debates and the early dates are as much a problem as who moderates them.
We had way too many debates and they started way too early. We do not need a nationally televised debate every time there is an upcoming primary - especially as early as Iowa.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 20, 2013 01:19 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: gracepmc at August 20, 2013 01:19 PM (rznx3)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2013 01:19 PM (HxkwP)
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 20, 2013 01:20 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2013 01:21 PM (HxkwP)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at August 20, 2013 01:21 PM (4p5/2)
I think the fiscons get Pantera. Socons get Slayer. We can work with this.
Posted by: akula51 at August 20, 2013 05:21 PM (4p5/2)
Laup Nor gets Insane Clown Posse
Posted by: Jollyroger at August 20, 2013 01:22 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 20, 2013 01:22 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at August 20, 2013 01:23 PM (VT4mV)
Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2013 01:24 PM (zoehZ)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at August 20, 2013 01:24 PM (VT4mV)
Posted by: Jollyroger at August 20, 2013 05:22 PM (t06LC)
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I pray that he doesn't enter the primaries this time. He's a fucking vote-sucking vampire. And he doesn't give a shit how bad it might turn for the country.
Posted by: Soona at August 20, 2013 01:25 PM (CRoF9)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at August 20, 2013 01:25 PM (VT4mV)
Amazing. A Lufthansa 747 just lifted off as it passed by me --- how can something so big be so graceful?
It's not easy, but I manage.
Posted by: Meghan McCain at August 20, 2013 01:25 PM (jTgAg)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 20, 2013 01:25 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: Jones in CO
I'm not entirely sure why we don't have a national primary day. It would take one f'ing vote by the GOP, and boom, no more bullshit drama.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 20, 2013 01:27 PM (hSwFv)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at August 20, 2013 01:27 PM (VT4mV)
Posted by: navybrat at August 20, 2013 01:27 PM (6msQC)
I pray that he doesn't enter the primaries this time. He's a fucking vote-sucking vampire. And he doesn't give a shit how bad it might turn for the country.
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iirc, he said last time that it was his final run. He is starting to get up there a bit age-wise, and I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to avoid interfering with any higher ambitions that his son might have.
Posted by: junior at August 20, 2013 01:27 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 20, 2013 01:27 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: bonhomme at August 20, 2013 01:27 PM (2hTlI)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at August 20, 2013 01:28 PM (VT4mV)
Posted by: dantesed at August 20, 2013 01:28 PM (9nLXu)
I'm not entirely sure why we don't have a national primary day.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
Because if you don't hold your primary on the same day your local state election is being held, the party has to pay the whole tab.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2013 01:29 PM (kdS6q)
>>> Hey, can anyone explain the phrase, "Head over heels" to me?
If I get head, what do I care if she's wearing flats?
Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2013 01:29 PM (jTgAg)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 20, 2013 05:27 PM (hSwFv)
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Agree 100%. Another giant step in the right direction would be to nullify all delegate votes from states that have open primaries.
Posted by: Soona at August 20, 2013 01:30 PM (CRoF9)
$250M bitch. Who's part of the 1% now?
Posted by: Lally Weymouth at August 20, 2013 01:31 PM (6TB1Z)
The network shows would just do what they did during Rachel Jenteel's testimony: tell outright lies about what happened.
Remember Piers Morgan talking about how poised and remarkable she was?
Posted by: bonhomme at August 20, 2013 01:31 PM (2hTlI)
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Ah, but is she clean and articulate?
Posted by: cool arrow at August 20, 2013 01:32 PM (WMsq+)
Come on, Ace. Give them credit when they do the right thing. It doesn't happen that often. Plus, a climbdown now would be a very public humiliation. Which, maybe they're into that, but I doubt it.
Posted by: pep at August 20, 2013 01:33 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Laurie David's
Ah, good point. BUT STILL!
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 20, 2013 01:33 PM (hSwFv)
Posted by: bonhomme at August 20, 2013 05:31 PM (2hTlI)
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Yeah, but he old school.
Posted by: Rachael "Two Necks" Jeantel at August 20, 2013 01:35 PM (CRoF9)
All of the candidates have been given stapleguns and a stack of dollar bills. The first candidate to staple thirty dollars worth of dollars to his opponents' bodies will have two minutes of unrebuttable speaking on the topic of his choosing.
Screw the staple guns. Go with nail guns for the win.
Posted by: Ronster at August 20, 2013 01:35 PM (HAbWl)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at August 20, 2013 01:35 PM (VT4mV)
Posted by: t-dubyah-d at August 20, 2013 01:38 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at August 20, 2013 01:44 PM (L4CWX)
Posted by: Baldy at August 20, 2013 01:45 PM (tyDFN)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 20, 2013 01:47 PM (XvHmy)
The GOP Primary debates BADLY bruised up our field, which was not an accident.
Next up, let's take iowa and New Hampshire out of the mix. What are they going to do, not vote Republican? Oh wait, they do that anyway.
Posted by: McAdams at August 20, 2013 02:37 PM (6Zwk1)
Posted by: toby928© embraces the suck at August 20, 2013 05:35 PM (QupBk)
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