November 03, 2013
— andy If at first you don't succeed
Newtown might not be planning any town wide events to mark the shooting tragedy last December 14th. but the Obama administration and gun control groups are still planning enough
Being rebuffed in the Senate and getting a couple of Colorado senators recalled wasn't enough to stop the left's gun control push, because they simply never give up. Neither can we.
Speaking of Newtown reactions
Another gun manufacturer flees New York. This time headed for South Carolina.
American Tactical Imports is leaving Rochester for South Carolina, blaming the move in part on the state’s gun-control law passed in January.“As one of the gun industry’s top importers and manufacturers of firearms and firearm-related accessories, ATI’s decision to relocate is two-fold,” the company said in a news release. “ATI believes it is imperative that a firearms importer and manufacturer do business within a state that is friendly to the Second Amendment rights of the people.
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Gun Of The Week - Answer
That's the Franchi SPAS-12, but I'll take "12-gauge autoloader".
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Posted by: MrScribbler at November 03, 2013 06:12 AM (kaGpp)
Posted by: Clownf*cker at November 03, 2013 06:13 AM (qDuQy)
Posted by: Ike B at November 03, 2013 06:14 AM (7VY89)
Someone give him a plasma rifle in the 40 GigaWatt range.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 03, 2013 06:14 AM (uVVG+)
Posted by: EC at November 03, 2013 06:14 AM (doBIb)
Hah. Jokes on ATI. Rochester won't miss them. I went there recently to see the Falls. What a bustling and prosperous looking downtown area. Hell, they even have a casino. They don't need no more stinking jobs. //s
Posted by: Bruce at November 03, 2013 06:16 AM (CN6VQ)
Posted by: steevy at November 03, 2013 06:16 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Freaked Out! at November 03, 2013 06:16 AM (kUTVN)
Posted by: Gmac - Pondering the coming implosion at November 03, 2013 06:16 AM (IanLz)
Posted by: Clownf*cker at November 03, 2013 06:17 AM (qDuQy)
Posted by: Agitator at November 03, 2013 06:18 AM (1M+Kc)
Posted by: Andy at November 03, 2013 06:18 AM (0ZQCB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 03, 2013 06:19 AM (uVVG+)
I have a great Colt pistol from the mid-1990s, but they don't make it anymore!
Not a fan of the Ruger, so maybe the Smith and Wesson 22A? Never fired it, but it looks like a nice pistol.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 03, 2013 06:19 AM (oJ5Fd)
Posted by: Gmac - Pondering the coming implosion at November 03, 2013 06:19 AM (IanLz)
Posted by: Piers Morgan at November 03, 2013 06:20 AM (Myqtp)
Posted by: steevy at November 03, 2013 06:21 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Andy at November 03, 2013 06:21 AM (0ZQCB)
Posted by: Gmac - Pondering the coming implosion at November 03, 2013 06:21 AM (IanLz)
Ken Burns
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Same thing.
Posted by: Everybody Ken Burns knows at November 03, 2013 06:22 AM (celt+)
"That's one dead Nazi...."
Posted by: EC at November 03, 2013 06:23 AM (doBIb)
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 03, 2013 06:23 AM (MnSla)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 03, 2013 06:24 AM (C3ps3)
Posted by: Mindy at November 03, 2013 06:26 AM (ZrNcx)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 03, 2013 06:28 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 03, 2013 06:28 AM (bCEmE)
(1) Get "$20 off on $100 purchase" coupon from Cabelas
(2) Buy 10 boxes of Federal XM193 at $9.99/box, plus a Snickers bar.
40 cents/round isn't too bad, and I'm steadily filling my larder. And Snickers really does satisfy.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 03, 2013 06:28 AM (celt+)
Posted by: Andy at November 03, 2013 06:28 AM (0ZQCB)
Meh... if they want to keep conservatives stoked up until 2014, I say fine.
Just because they're in charge doesn't mean they're smart.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 03, 2013 06:29 AM (lJaja)
For some reason, Cabelas always sends me a bottle of 5hr Energy Drink with my ammo orders.
What?
Posted by: EC at November 03, 2013 06:30 AM (doBIb)
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 03, 2013 06:30 AM (celt+)
Posted by: Bill at November 03, 2013 06:31 AM (uvyrw)
Posted by: FGCUJames at November 03, 2013 06:31 AM (GPjVW)
I know the USMC uses the Benelli autos. Sweet gun.
Posted by: EC at November 03, 2013 06:32 AM (doBIb)
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No kidding? Because I buy in person, so dammit, I'm gonna demand my 5hr Energy. Not that I drink it, but still... it's the principle of the thing.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 03, 2013 06:32 AM (celt+)
Yes, they do! Every order I've placed.
Posted by: EC at November 03, 2013 06:33 AM (doBIb)
Just wanted to rub it in.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 03, 2013 06:34 AM (celt+)
Posted by: Yankee in GA at November 03, 2013 06:34 AM (GyXj+)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 03, 2013 06:34 AM (0HooB)
Eh...
I saw it in The Untouchables old TV show IIRC...
Posted by: sven at November 03, 2013 06:36 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Andy at November 03, 2013 06:39 AM (0ZQCB)
Posted by: Fritz at November 03, 2013 06:39 AM (TKFmG)
Posted by: Yankee in GA at November 03, 2013 06:42 AM (GyXj+)
Posted by: cirby at November 03, 2013 06:46 AM (TPI1a)
.Fortunately, I doubt I'll ever stumble across one. I already have a Yugo SKS, so my 7.62x39 needs are covered.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 03, 2013 06:52 AM (celt+)
Just wanted to rub it in.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 03, 2013 10:34 AM (celt+)
The closest Cabellas for me is about 200 miles. Bass Pro? 90 for one and 100 for the other. Gander Mountain? 60miles. Academy Sports? 50 miles.
Any wonder why a trip to Wal-Mart is normal and a trip to any of the others is an all day event?
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 03, 2013 06:55 AM (MnSla)
Posted by: butch at November 03, 2013 06:59 AM (EV3Uf)
There's an outfit that specializes in 'em...
http://tinyurl.com/mht9pge
happy hunting
Posted by: sven at November 03, 2013 07:02 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 03, 2013 07:03 AM (GaqMa)
Rifled Slug Bores are accurate enough for minute of deer skull
Posted by: sven at November 03, 2013 07:05 AM (9jfyN)
I've been using gunbot.net for ammo lately. For guns themselves, I drive. I've got to see it and touch it before I buy.
Buying cleaning and other stuff is why I go to walmart.
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 03, 2013 07:06 AM (MnSla)
Joe - Lucky Gunner and Ammo Man for boolitts here. Have to check out gunbot.net; thanks!
Posted by: butch at November 03, 2013 07:09 AM (EV3Uf)
Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 03, 2013 07:10 AM (GaqMa)
I been to the lucky gunner site, but I've never used them. I like gunbot for the ability to set a price range.
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 03, 2013 07:13 AM (MnSla)
Posted by: PabloD at November 03, 2013 07:13 AM (isVWP)
Posted by: Freaked Out! at November 03, 2013 07:22 AM (kUTVN)
http://tinyurl.com/oh6c9gg
Yesterday while Air Force was doing pretty well against Army in that football thing, West Point beat the Academy for the President's Trophy in rifle by 5809 to 5800. That's what you might call a pretty close match.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 03, 2013 07:24 AM (JNUY4)
Posted by: Pilot141 at November 03, 2013 07:31 AM (nPwzA)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 03, 2013 07:34 AM (0FSuD)
How about Anything but a SIG Mosquito and preferably not a Walther (Just because they suck putting back together
The Walther definitely sucks on reassembly, but I do like how mine shoots.
Posted by: PMRich at November 03, 2013 07:36 AM (KDUNf)
Last night I mentioned on the ONT that this AM would be squirrel hunting with oldest granddaughter.
We did so, and 11 tree rodents later the prep work is done, they're ready for the pot. 1st game dinner will feature them.
Scope sight Marlin 39A for me and a Savage (also scoped)
for her.
Head shots on each.
Posted by: irongrampa at November 03, 2013 07:40 AM (SAMxH)
Posted by: jake at November 03, 2013 07:44 AM (t9Vdf)
Posted by: jake at November 03, 2013 07:46 AM (t9Vdf)
Posted by: jake at November 03, 2013 07:49 AM (t9Vdf)
Posted by: Cretin, high grade moron isotopes in thousands of centrifuges at November 03, 2013 07:58 AM (553LD)
Posted by: jake at November 03, 2013 08:05 AM (t9Vdf)
Posted by: Bob in Houston at November 03, 2013 08:13 AM (b7AU3)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at November 03, 2013 08:18 AM (AG4tk)
Posted by: jake at November 03, 2013 08:19 AM (t9Vdf)
What say you morons?
Posted by: EC at November 03, 2013 10:13 AM (doBIb)"
I have had a SIG Mosquito and it is picky, picky, picky about ammunition. It is pretty reliable with CCI Mini Mags. With everything else, there will be a minimum of 2 failures to feed or jams per magazine and with some ammunition you will get no successful feeds from the magazine at all. It feels nice in the hand. It is accurate and it has the same controls as a SIG 228 or 229 but I don't think I would buy one again.
Since it it is basically a plinking and range toy gun, you might want to consider a revolver. Functioning with different brands of ammunition is not an issue with them and you can even shoot CB cap ammunition which is relatively quiet. There are some single action revolvers that have a .22 LR cylinder and a .22 Magnum cylinder. During the recent ammunition shortage, I saw .22 Magnum on the shelves sometimes when all the .22 LR had not been seen for months.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at November 03, 2013 08:53 AM (BcCwi)
Posted by: stace at November 03, 2013 09:08 AM (DX63t)
It appears that nobody has nominated the Browning Buckmark line of .22 auto-pistols.
Let me remedy that apparent oversight, if I may?
There are two families of the Buckmark series. The cheaper ones have a cylindrical aluminum outer barrel, with a pressed-in steel rifled barrel liner.
Go a bit upscale, and you'll find the solid steel barrels, which are noted for having machined-flat sides, which are usually highly polisted and blued.
Universally, Buckmarks tend to offer fantastic accuracy, function well with various ammo types, and feature one of the best triggers in the industry.
And, they're fourteen times easier to take down and reassemble than the Ruger Mk 1, II or III designs. The grip angle and controls on the Browning is nearly identical to the venerable 1911. The Rugers? Only the 22/45 comes close, and the weight is "toy" instead of GUN.
While not a "match" pistol, my Buckmark UDX can run with all but the very best of 'em. And, it's gorgeous, to boot.
Highly Recommended, by me!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 03, 2013 09:10 AM (vvk2F)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 03, 2013 09:11 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: toby928© at November 03, 2013 09:39 AM (QupBk)
I'm thinking I need one now too, cuz I don't have one.
Posted by: stace at November 03, 2013 01:08 PM (DX63t)"
Any revolvers are pretty much equally easy because you can't really take them down to clean them. The SIG Mosquito takes down for cleaning and reassembles pretty easy but unless you shoot nothing but CCI Mini Mags it will jam all the time. I once had a Bersa Thunder .22. It was about the size of a Walther PP and the same model is available as a .380 so it is definitely overbuilt for a .22. It was reliable with all kinds of ammunition and accurate and easy to take down for cleaning. It was a fun pistol and I regret getting rid of it.
Ruger .22 pistols are notorious for the elaborate gyrations that you have to go through to reassemble them, including holding them upside down at certain stages.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at November 03, 2013 09:42 AM (BcCwi)
Posted by: Hal at November 03, 2013 11:03 AM (2wZs/)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 03, 2013 11:06 AM (80R0X)
Posted by: FGCUJames at November 03, 2013 11:19 AM (i2t1q)
Posted by: Pilot141 at November 03, 2013 11:31 AM (nPwzA)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 03, 2013 01:16 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: TennDon at November 03, 2013 01:51 PM (gPt2n)
(FYI, I got to shoot my father-in-law's Ruger 0.22 this weekend. That was fun. A lot easier to handle than his 0.45 and 9mm weapons.)
Posted by: Hal at November 03, 2013 03:03 PM (2wZs/)"
There are a lot of people killed by .22 weapons every year, possibly more than with any other cartridge. The thing is that what you want from a self defense weapon is to stop someone from doing what ever action has caused you to shoot them. Most people don't want to be shot with anything and pointing any gun that you are prepared to shoot at them will persuade a lot of people to go away. For those who choose to stick around, a hit from a .22 is more effective than a miss by a .44 Magnum.
A .22 bullet that penetrates the skull is likely to ricochet around inside 3 to 5 times and turn a brain into a brain smoothie. The caveat with that is that a head is much smaller than a torso and it moves a lot more. There is also a very good chance that a .22 bullet will bounce off a skull if it hits at any kind of angle. The advice to aim for the eye is sound.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at November 03, 2013 02:27 PM (BcCwi)
If the SEALS aren't using a AA-12 fully-auto with a drum, they aren't thinking. Let me have your discards. 12-Ga with zero recoil--you can hold it against your face.
Posted by: Darrell at November 03, 2013 06:40 PM (fTXNQ)
I actually owned one of those (the SPAS-12) for a time. I traded it in because it was an enormously heavy and unweildy weapon. It was fun and cool, but not really a home defense weapon. Well, maybe if you're Ahnuld and you wield it as a club......
Posted by: GWB at November 04, 2013 07:07 AM (9eTPJ)
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