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March 31, 2013

Gun Thread 3/17/2013
— Dave in Texas

The resident firearms expert has a life today, so I got a couple things.

This is my preferred carry piece. I shoot this one more accurately than anything else I have, it carries ok (a bit bulky in the summer but I have figured that out), and it's a classic, time-tested design.

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This weapon features a thumb safety, which toggles (on either side lefties) that locks the slide into position, and a grip safety (see that thing on the back?) Very similar to the old S&W Lemon Squeezer design, it can't be fired unless you grip the grip. Most good holsters like this one from Galco place leather between the hammer and the firing pin, which lets you carry confidently in "Condition One" (a round in the chamber, ready to shoot). But that's just an added comfort thing, A Springfield 1911 is perfectly safe to carry with the hammer back and a round chambered.

In other news, the Local Knights of Columbus are about to raffle off this beauty, and I bought $100 of the winning tickets (I hope).

That there is a Henry repeating rifle, in .22 Henrys had and still have a very distinctive octagonal machined barrel that makes them a) heavy and b) accurate.

Wish me luck!

Histwah! "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"

Thomas "Mad Dog" Jefferson, from TJ papers 334 (I think).

There you have it. Stuff f'n Jefferson Said, about the purpose of the f'n Second Amendment.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 11:41 AM | Comments (236)
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1 That is your rifle. There are many like it, but that one is yours.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 17, 2013 11:36 AM (CCE1r)

2 Two gun threads. It's stereo.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 17, 2013 11:37 AM (4Mv1T)

I prefer a Commander length 1911, but in all other respects, agree with you here.

Sweet guns, those!

Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 17, 2013 11:37 AM (vvk2F)

4 I wouldn't mind having one of those Henry rifles.

Posted by: Vic at March 17, 2013 11:37 AM (53z96)

5 And its good for putting book threads out of their misery.

Posted by: Whatev at March 17, 2013 11:38 AM (A7Wh1)

6 And there you have the qualifier: "no FREE man"

Ipso facto if your barred from possessing a weapon, you're NOT FREE!

FIRST?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 17, 2013 11:39 AM (Kpn/z)

7 A double posted double barreled gun thread!

Posted by: Mossberg Patriot at March 17, 2013 11:39 AM (Opo0Q)

8 this is one of those "magic" threads?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 17, 2013 11:39 AM (Kpn/z)

9 I guess Shotgun Joe would call this a "double barrelled" gun thread day.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at March 17, 2013 11:41 AM (2Oas0)

10 behold the power of bore harmonics....

happy Easter all

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 31, 2013 11:44 AM (LRFds)

11 It's nice if your holster helps you carry it "cocked and locked" but it should never leave your person in that condition, as photographed.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 31, 2013 11:44 AM (OZ96b)

12 Cue "Twilight Zone" music. I was here, before I was here.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 11:44 AM (4Mv1T)

13 Yes, please tell everybody what guns you have.

Posted by: Eric Himmler--er, Holder at March 31, 2013 11:46 AM (+bZOu)

14 Ah, a 1911. My first pistol. And I got it for finding the Afikomen at my parents' Seder!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2013 11:50 AM (0zDXv)

15 Love my 1911, too. Straight shooter.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 11:52 AM (4Mv1T)

16 That's no cockholster. Why doesn't spellcheck like cockholster?

Posted by: eleven at March 31, 2013 11:53 AM (fsLdt)

17 Chris Balsz, carried it exactly like that for 10 years. What's the problemo?

Posted by: Dave in Texas at March 31, 2013 11:53 AM (pUqSw)

18 I carry a S&W model 5906 in 9mm. 15+1. Nice shooting pistol. Got to get some longer tailed t-shirts though for summer carry because I carry outside waist band.

Posted by: Nobody knows the troubles I've seen at March 31, 2013 11:53 AM (1XRS7)

19 Forgot the best part...it's a double action so no need to cock the hammer to fire, just flick the safety with thumb.

Posted by: Nobody knows the troubles I've seen at March 31, 2013 11:55 AM (1XRS7)

20 13 Eric Himmler,

Had...damned boat

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 31, 2013 11:56 AM (LRFds)

21 Guns guns guns..glorious guns. You need them... I have them.

Posted by: Marcus Munitions at March 31, 2013 11:57 AM (FMbng)

22 4 I wouldn't mind having one of those Henry rifles.

Posted by: Vic at March 17, 2013 03:37 PM (53z96)

I understand they advertise on MSNBC

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 31, 2013 11:58 AM (0dZJc)

23 Posted by: Dave in Texas at March 31, 2013 03:53 PM (pUqSw)

If you turn your back on the pistol it will sometimes flick its own safety off and fire.

You have to watch them very carefully....they have minds of their own.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2013 11:58 AM (0zDXv)

24 Somebody mentioned guns in the Bach thread, so I started nosing around Wikipedia to see what firearms were contemporary with him. It seems that flintlocks were already in widespread use by then, but I also looked up "wheellock" and found this: In 1517 and 1518, the first gun control laws banning the wheellock were proclaimed by the Emperor Maximilian I, initially in Austria and later throughout the Holy Roman Empire. Several Italian states followed suit in the 1520s and 1530s... As Lisa Jardine[4] relates in her account of the assassination of William the Silent of the Netherlands, in 1584, the small size, ease of concealment and user-friendly loading aspect of the wheellock, compared to more arduous hand-held weapons, meant that it was used for curtailing the lives of public figures, such as Francis, Duke of Guise and William himself.

Posted by: rickl at March 31, 2013 12:02 PM (sdi6R)

25
Errr, Dave, if anybody who doesn't like you knows your real name, you have now set him up to claim,

"Officer! Officer! Dave In Texas just threatened me with a pistol! I saw it! It's one of them .45s except all chromey. He said somethin' like, 'I mo git you wit ma Springfield.'"

Just sayin'. Ain't anybody but my lovely wife who knows what my carry gun looks like.

Posted by: J. Moses Browning at March 31, 2013 12:03 PM (uLMdt)

26 Just sayin'. Ain't anybody but my lovely wife who knows what my carry gun looks like.

Posted by: J. Moses Browning at March 31, 2013 04:03 PM (uLMdt)

1911 or a Hi-Power or you are a fraud.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2013 12:05 PM (0zDXv)

27 Best of luck to you in the raffle, DiT! My dad just showed me the Henry repeating rifle that he won in the Elk Foundation Annual Dinner raffle. Bonus... It's going to his grandson (my son) for his 21st birthday. A very nice firearm, and it will be greatly appreciated.

Posted by: IntheBellyoftheBeast at March 31, 2013 12:05 PM (moC+6)

28 What good's a gun if there is no ammo for sale, anywhere? Does anybody think this ammo shortage will ever end? The Dems will never stop talking about their "gun violence" issue, because they know it fuels the partisan divide, keeps the MFM on target, the target being the nasty Republican h8ers, and the partisan conflict is what their side wants.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at March 31, 2013 12:06 PM (ndp2I)

29 The Henry repeating rifle. Custer and the 7th Cavalry discovered what an amazing rifle it was.

Posted by: deepred at March 31, 2013 12:07 PM (rUiSC)

30 I bought a springer loaded model like the one pictured. Got the bug and did a bunch of upgrades, VZ grips, FO front sight, Adjustable rear, match bushing, trigger job, Wilson beavertail, and finished it in black Cerakote.

It's a joy to shoot and super accurate.

The 1911 is my favorite handgun.

Posted by: willy at March 31, 2013 12:09 PM (432Uz)

31 Mmm. Homemade Chinese food.

Posted by: bears at March 31, 2013 12:09 PM (VwC86)

32 Doing my part, part 2: The wife and I brought 3 more Hudson County, NJ liberals to Thunder Mountain Trap & Skeet yesterday, after last week's great response to the first 3 n00bs we brought. 45 min wait (super nice day) but all broke at least 7 clays (shot from station 7). BIG smiles and photos taken, FB pages updated with said photos (many likes!). Great time and I'm blowing the rust out from the winter.

Posted by: Johnny I at March 31, 2013 12:10 PM (YyKGS)

33 You gonna finish that spring roll?

Posted by: bears at March 31, 2013 12:11 PM (VwC86)

34 Posted by: Johnny I at March 31, 2013 04:10 PM (YyKGS)

Nice!

We're having an NY/NJ moron meetup on April 11th.

If you want in, shoot me an e-mail to:

nynjmeet at optimum dot net

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2013 12:13 PM (0zDXv)

35 It's deja vu all over again.

This thread already ran last week.

Thought you could slip that by us Dave?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 31, 2013 12:17 PM (Kpn/z)

36 Shit. Someone left the tardis unlocked and Dave is doing his Dr. Who imitation.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 31, 2013 12:19 PM (Kpn/z)

37 CBD-- Just sent you an email. I've asked a while ago if any cob-loggers had a vector image of the Ace of Spades logo... Love to put a patch on my shooting vest. A higher res jpg could work, I can convert it.

Posted by: Johnny I at March 31, 2013 12:21 PM (YyKGS)

38 I was thinking about a hammerless .357, any comments? I'm thinking a small-of-the-back holster, and an ankle holster for some situations.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 31, 2013 12:26 PM (1Y+hH)

39 26 ...Posted by: J. Moses Browning at March 31, 2013 04:03 PM (uLMdt)

1911 or a Hi-Power or you are a fraud.
--------------------------

Me an' Gaston did a little tradin' one day.

Posted by: J. Moses Browning at March 31, 2013 12:26 PM (uLMdt)

40 Hello 9-1-1? Send the fire department quick! I've got some bears coming over and I have to order Chinese food!

Posted by: some stupid bitch phoning 9-1-1 at March 31, 2013 12:27 PM (VwC86)

41 Me an' Gaston did a little tradin' one day.

Posted by: J. Moses Browning at March 31, 2013 04:26 PM (uLMdt)

Never liked them.

But that's the great thing about guns; there are enough for everyone.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2013 12:29 PM (0zDXv)

42 The rifle is beautiful.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 31, 2013 12:31 PM (piMMO)

43 re 6: but you see, comrade, under capitalism no one is free, but under Obamunism no one needs a gun. I'm sure Mary Cloggenboro of Brattlestein VT has already explained that. You need to learn to listen more carefully

Posted by: mallfly at March 31, 2013 12:31 PM (bJm7W)

44 Got a lever action, puma m96, with the octagonal barrel chambered in .44 magnum. Couldn't be happier with it. Has silver metal work, like that a bit better than the gold or black.

Posted by: wte9 at March 31, 2013 12:33 PM (xsSS7)

45 gateway pundit links to weekly standard for this:

President Obama and his family this morning went to Easter Sunday services at St. JohnÂ’s Episcopal Church in Washington, D.C. Here are notes on the Easter service from the pool reporter, which included this part, "It drives me crazy when the captains of the religious right are always calling us back ... for blacks to be back in the back of the bus ... for women to be back in the kitchen ... for immigrants to be back on their side of the border"

Posted by: mallfly at March 31, 2013 12:34 PM (bJm7W)

46 45 mallfly,

Yup...I can't tell you the last time I told a Black mexican to get to the back of the bus back over their border...

well actually I can't tell you because it never happened....

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 31, 2013 12:37 PM (LRFds)

47 A company owned by in-laws of Cypriot President Nicos Anastasiades withdrew dozens of millions from Laiki Bank on March 12 and 13, according to an article published in Cypriot newspaper Haravgi. The newspaper, which is affiliated to the communist-rooted AKEL party, reports that three days before the Eurogroup meeting the company took five promissory notes worth Â€21m from Laiki Bank and transferred the money to London.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 31, 2013 12:38 PM (e8kgV)

48 >> Thought you could slip that by us Dave? I pulled it when Andy posted on the 17th.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at March 31, 2013 12:40 PM (pUqSw)

49 The Second Amendment reads as follows: Â“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.Â” The immediate impetus for the amendment has never been in dispute. Many of the revolutionary generation believed standing armies were dangerous to liberty. Militias made up of citizen-soldiers, they reasoned, were more suitable to the character of republican government. Expressing a widely held view, Elbridge Gerry remarked in the debate over the first militia bill in 1789 that Â“whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia.Â”

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 31, 2013 12:41 PM (e8kgV)

50 The wife and I brought 3 more Hudson County, NJ liberals to Thunder Mountain Trap & Skeet yesterday… That's well and good, but my stock response to "take an anti to the range" initiatives is that these are the same fuckers who derive pleasure from making other people jump through hoops. Are these really the kinds of people you want to be comfortable with firearms? Sure, this might change the minds of some subset of the leftarded motherfuckers invited to see what it's all about, but is it worth the risk of handing them the tools they need to bring Pol Pot's Cambodia to this country? Remember: Every leftard fuck enjoys freedom just as much as the rest of us do. It's just that they're willing to shit all over yours and mine and everyone else's freedoms to get theirs.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at March 31, 2013 12:42 PM (V3kRK)

51 What is your summer gameplan with a 1911?

I like it when it cools off for jackets and sweatshirts because the 1911 is doable IWB. I usually carry a Sig 239 during warmer months, but it's honestly not much better from the standpoint of printing. I can wear it ankle or small-of-back though, whereas those are pretty much off the table with a full size 1911.

Posted by: 0302 at March 31, 2013 12:46 PM (sRWlD)

52 >>>What is your summer gameplan with a 1911?

For me, I just decided to get another carry piece in .45acp. Traded a mutt caliber S and W for and XDs, and now looking for a good IWB holster. Got a light weight Uncle Mikes that works for now, but once you pull the pistol out, it's a project to get it back in, specially with complaining shoulders..

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 12:52 PM (4Mv1T)

53 People I didn't pick in the final 4. Michigan, Syracuse or Wichita State.

Happy Easter everyone.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2013 12:52 PM (IY7Ir)

54 I just found out that Obama only won states without voter ID. Fill in your own outrage/punch line

Posted by: Truman North at March 31, 2013 12:52 PM (I2LwF)

55 I have two raffle tickets for an LMT 308 MWS for a drawing this November. Please, please, please God! Let me win this!

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 12:54 PM (doBIb)

56 I don't yet carry, but a tip of the hat to those who do. It is an awesome responsibility.

Posted by: Die Trying at March 31, 2013 12:54 PM (w7J/R)

57 What is your summer gameplan with a 1911?[/i}

Supertuck with tucked shirts, Qwikclip or Appendix carry with untucked

http://tinyurl.com/bqtdtw

Crossbreed makes quality leather/kydex stuff.

Posted by: T.Hunter at March 31, 2013 12:55 PM (EZl54)

59 Slow comments here

Posted by: Truman North at March 31, 2013 01:00 PM (I2LwF)

60 38 Try out a S&W 649. Conceals well, no snags on the draw, and 5 rounds of 357 125 grain HP. Its double action but no big deal, the trigger pull is smooth. Now back to paying attention to how the leg of lamb stuffed with garlic and olives is progressing.... it has to be medium rare not medium. Plus there are brussel sprouts basted with lemon juice and olive oil to put on the grill. Happy Easter and happy spring moron-ettes.

Posted by: angel with a sword at March 31, 2013 01:01 PM (IcPGc)

61 T.Hunter - Thanks for posting that. Got it bookmarked. Bad thing with buying the latest got-to-have-it weapons is it's not easy to find accessories.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 01:03 PM (4Mv1T)

62 That may be the same Smith & Wesson I was going to have you look at Meremortal. Sis loved hers, before she lost it in a tragic cooking accident.

Posted by: teej at March 31, 2013 01:05 PM (PNi9V)

63 51 What is your summer gameplan with a 1911? I like it when it cools off for jackets and sweatshirts because the 1911 is doable IWB. I usually carry a Sig 239 during warmer months, but it's honestly not much better from the standpoint of printing. I can wear it ankle or small-of-back though, whereas those are pretty much off the table with a full size 1911. I carry a 5" 1911 in a Comp-Tac IWB holster, and most of the year just cover it with a light, zip-up jacket. I'm in New England, and while we don't have a ton of super hot days in summer we'll have a heat-wave or two every summer with temps in the high-90s. If it's too hot for a light jacket I usually just wear a loose button-down shirt over a T-shirt, with the 1911 in between. I'm a little over 6', a little over 200 lbs, the arrangement has worked fine for my daily carry (gun and spare mag) for going on 20 years now. Like you, I also have a Sig 239 that I use for fanny-pack carry during exceptional circumstances when carrying the 1911 isn't feasible, but pretty much the only time that occurs is when I'm at a beach, and I don't beach very often, the NE waters are too cold for my taste, even in summer. I would never, ever carry SOB--I don't want a chunk of metal already positioned over my spine in the event I take a fall. Ouchie.

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at March 31, 2013 01:06 PM (iZ0BY)

64 EC- Regarding raffle tickets, I've had to quit buying them. I spend the time between buying the tickets, and the drawing planning what I'll do with the new toy (that I will likely never own). Can't tell you how many tickets I've bought for various Cobra replica raffles the past couple of years.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 01:07 PM (4Mv1T)

65 I used to carry large-frame guns in summer with a white dress shirt open over a t-shirt. Plausible use to avoid sunburn, and if it's loose it's not that warm. It gets to 115 here and humidity is moderate (but never really low). The shirt can't be thin / translucent, obviously. Practice subtly forcing people hugging you to have their arms high.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at March 31, 2013 01:11 PM (bxiXv)

66 I'm liking the sound of the new Glock G30S. Compact .45ACP.

Posted by: Attila at March 31, 2013 01:11 PM (Cs2tJ)

67 Tobacco, I bought those tickets at the Dixie Gun and Knife show, that a local USMC charity was doing a raffle for. It's a sweet rifle and I get to help out vets at the same time. The last rifle was something just as sweet, but I can't remember what it was. Yeah, I'll never win but WHAT IF I DID?!?!?!?! =o

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 01:12 PM (doBIb)

Test

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 01:12 PM (doBIb)

69 Growing up in AK, carrying was the rule rather than the exception. It was not odd to see open carry any time of the year during the 60's. It was only the hippie revolution of the 70's that changed that. Now most folks conceal, but whatever.

In WI, not so much. These folks have a serious bug up their asses concerning guns. Not the locals, mind you, but the left-over hippies in Madison and even Milwaukee.

With the gangbangers coming up from Chicago for the excellent public benefits, I'm gonna carry again. Don't care much what the hippie next door thinks about that.

Posted by: tcn at March 31, 2013 01:13 PM (VLG62)

70 Thanks for putting this up, Dave. The regular gun thread will be back in all its glory next Sunday.

Posted by: Andy at March 31, 2013 01:14 PM (OZPoa)

Posted by: Truman North at March 31, 2013 04:52 PM (I2LwF)

Not quite true. He won Michigan and we must show ID at the precinct. There is however, an affidavit you must sign if you don't have ID.

Posted by: Bill R. at March 31, 2013 01:15 PM (QnRSM)

72 50 FRONT TOWARD LEFT We keep it devoid of politics (for now), just that it is a ridiculously fun way to spend an afternoon. Not too many shooters to choose from in town here, so might as well make some. These have been pretty receptive folks, not Brady sympathizers. I will be bringing up the fact Schumer's bill would make what we did a felony to one of them soon. She LOVED it, and I know she wouldn't stand for it after going out.

Posted by: Johnny I at March 31, 2013 01:17 PM (YyKGS)

73 I have a few Springfield 1911s. I'm glad I bought mine when the prices were still reasonable.

Posted by: Patrap at March 31, 2013 01:17 PM (6FFLo)

Posted by: tcn at March 31, 2013 05:13 PM (VLG62)

Don't understand why that would change. In Alaska, people are definitely not at the top of the food chain. Even a moose can kill you, and they're everywhere.

Posted by: Bill R. at March 31, 2013 01:18 PM (QnRSM)

75 I'll bet those victims in Chicago's Magnificent Mile wish they had one of those. That is the most disgusting crime story. Flash mob muggings. I think my next visit to Chi town can wait until the next ice age.

Posted by: navybrat at March 31, 2013 01:19 PM (SWuSg)

76 That Flash Mob crap is coming to a city near you as the veneer of a civil society slips away. The feral youth mostly run wild now and realize they can get away with it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 31, 2013 01:25 PM (jucos)

I live for the day a flash mob meets up with a flash suppressor.

Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2013 01:28 PM (bg9lg)

78 Well I have already interfered with 2 muggings in my own locale. Did not have to dispatch any of the muggers, but I did disarm them. They had to admit that they picked the wrong old white guy that day.

My preferred carry piece is the Glock model 30. Looking for pics of that 30S mentioned earlier, don't see any.

Posted by: navybrat at March 31, 2013 01:28 PM (SWuSg)

79 Guns, idiots weapon. Big chunk of metal when out of ammo. Can't beat a knife at 21 feet. Also watched a defense video stating that there is no tried and true self defense technique that beats a knife wielding prison rush. On the other hand I can wack your brains out with a can of soup, or slice you with a broken ashtray.Preferably broken over someones head. Learn to use the surroundings, not the favorite toy. http://www.usadojo.com/articles/21-feet.htm It is common knowledge that a suspect, armed with an edged weapon and within twenty-one feet of a police officer presents a deadly threat. Why? Because the Â“averageÂ” man can run that twenty-one feet in about one-point-five seconds; the same one-point-five seconds it will take that police officer to recognize danger, draw and point his weapon, and then pull the trigger. Even if the officer manages to get the shot off, and even if it hits the suspect; even if it instantly disables the suspect, the blade is going to be so close to the officer that the suspectÂ’s momentum may continue forward with enough force for the edged weapon to end up injuring the officer anyway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill The Tueller Drill is a self-defense training exercise to prepare against a short-range knife attack when armed only with a holstered handgun. Sergeant Dennis Tueller, of the Salt Lake City, Utah Police Department wondered how quickly an attacker with a knife could cover 21 feet (6.4 m), so he timed volunteers as they raced to stab the target. He determined that it could be done in 1.5 seconds. These results were first published as an article in SWAT magazine in 1983 and in a police training video by the same title, "How Close is Too Close?"[1] A defender with a gun has a dilemma. If he shoots too early, he risks being charged with murder. If he waits until the attacker is definitely within striking range so there is no question about motives, he risks injury and even death. The Tueller experiments quantified a "danger zone" where an attacker presented a clear threat.[2] The Tueller Drill combines both parts of the original time trials by Tueller. There are several ways it can be conducted:[3] The "attacker and shooter are positioned back-to-back. At the signal, the attacker sprints away from the shooter, and the shooter unholsters his gun and shoots at the target 21 feet (6.4 m) in front of him. The attacker stops as soon as the shot is fired. The shooter is successful only if his shot is good and if the runner did not cover 21 feet (6.4 m). A more stressful arrangement is to have the attacker begin 21 feet (6.4 m) behind the shooter and run towards the shooter. The shooter is successful only if he was able take a good shot before he is tapped on the back by the attacker. If the shooter is armed with only a training replica gun, a full-contact drill may be done with the attacker running towards the shooter. In this variation, the shooter should practice side-stepping the attacker while he is drawing the gun.

Posted by: Harry Balzac at March 31, 2013 01:30 PM (G6kli)

80 Ah there it is right on the front page of Glock. Looks like a blade sight in the back. Hmm.

Posted by: navybrat at March 31, 2013 01:30 PM (SWuSg)

81 My guns stayed in the safe for nearly 15 years while the kids were growing up, for various reasons.

I decided to get active again, got my range card, CCW, and upgraded odd calibers to more mainstream calibers/gauges.

The thing that has struck me the most is the people I have met in the process. My CCW instructor was a youth pastor. A new friend I met in that class, who coincidentally bought a locally made AR identical to mine, is in church leadership at a Baptist church down the road. Traded for my latest carry piece from a preacher I met at a regional gun forum. Everytime I go to the range, I see the head of my son's Christian High School, and he is always wanting to talk guns, ammo, prep, etc.

Make no mistake. Good, bad, or indifferent, evangelicals are paying attention, and armed.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 01:32 PM (4Mv1T)

82 You can't have a thread without a troll.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at March 31, 2013 01:35 PM (bxiXv)

83 Wow, this guys gun failed to save his life. And he was trained too. And paranoid. Kind of blows up that self defense myth don't it? KAUFMAN, Texas (AP) Â— Kaufman County District Attorney Mike McLelland took no chances after one of his assistant prosecutors was gunned down two months ago. McLelland said he carried a gun everywhere he went and was extra careful when answering the door at his home. "I'm ahead of everybody else because, basically, I'm a soldier," the 23-year Army veteran said in an interview less than two weeks ago. On Saturday, he and his wife were found shot to death in their rural home just outside the town of Forney, about 20 miles from Dallas.

Posted by: YAHWEH at March 31, 2013 01:36 PM (G6kli)

84 And on a Sunday, too.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at March 31, 2013 01:38 PM (bxiXv)

85 You can protect yourself from the average criminal opportunist.

A determined assassin is another matter altogether.

Posted by: navybrat at March 31, 2013 01:38 PM (SWuSg)

P40 Storm carried in the waistband or in the integrated holster of my vest or jacket, (depending on the weather for the ride)....backed up with a Kahr 45 in the front pocket of my jeans opposite the P40.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 31, 2013 01:38 PM (TLokJ)

I am looking to pick up a good ground hog/ varmint 22.

Really like the Ruger 10-22. Anything else out there to be looking at?

I have not shopped guns in dacades, so..

Posted by: Rats Alley Express at March 31, 2013 01:38 PM (PlcqH)

88 Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 05:32 PM "Make no mistake. Good, bad, or indifferent, evangelicals are paying attention, and armed." So much for turn the other cheek and the much more important THOU SHALL NOT KILL. I guess the Amish are about the only true believers left. Everyone else is a hypocrite that never practice what they preach. And then they wonder why they are the butt of jokes.

Posted by: YAHWEH at March 31, 2013 01:39 PM (G6kli)

89 Ouch that Louisville player just Theismanned his lower leg.

Posted by: Eric Himmler--er, Holder at March 31, 2013 01:40 PM (+bZOu)

90 Extremely gruesome. I can't look at it yet. Saw it in my peripheral and that's all.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2013 01:41 PM (ZPrif)

91 Rats, I'd recommend a .17 HMR.

Posted by: lothar at March 31, 2013 01:41 PM (ILzZG)

Posted by: YAHWEH at March 31, 2013 05:36 PM (G6kli)

There are no guarantees in life. Not knowing the particulars of the case, I will not speculate on what may have happened.

I know that some day I will die but like Obama stated one time, I prefer to cling to my bible and my guns. When God decides my time is up, I will go, and not one second sooner.

Posted by: Bill R. at March 31, 2013 01:41 PM (QnRSM)

93 Vomit inducing

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 31, 2013 01:42 PM (jucos)

94 That was the ugliest break since Joe Theisman! Eeeew!

Posted by: H R C at March 31, 2013 01:42 PM (WV0NL)

95 Hey a gun troll. Funny.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2013 01:42 PM (ZPrif)

96 They kept showing it over and over.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2013 01:43 PM (ZPrif)

97 So much for turn the other cheek and the much more important THOU SHALL NOT KILL.

There's also "God is not mocked", which presumably covers using His name as a sockpuppet.

Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at March 31, 2013 01:44 PM (xNwA3)

So much for turn the other cheek and the much more important THOU SHALL NOT KILL.

If you actually had an understanding of what that meant you would know that means you should not commit murder. Self defense is something else entirely.

Posted by: Bill R. at March 31, 2013 01:44 PM (QnRSM)

99 Can't watch that. Time for golf. Ugh!

Posted by: H R C at March 31, 2013 01:44 PM (WV0NL)

100 You know what else is better than a gun? Acid vomit. Acid vomit beats a gun at 22 feet. That's common knowledge!

Posted by: Truman North at March 31, 2013 01:45 PM (I2LwF)

101 Decades ago, I was an Army private serving as an AG on an M60 machinegun team and the Army Colt .45 was my issue weapon. I fired it for qualification fairly often but never really warmed to the 1911 platform. It struck me as clunky and cumbersome, not quite right (for me) in the hand. As a civilian, I own a wide array of revolvers and semiautomatics of various calibers. My primary carry weapon is usually a Bulgarian Makarov, in which I dropped East German precision parts, changed out the springs with Wolfe springs, and dremel-polished the feed ramp and the contact points on the trigger bar, hammer, and mainspring. It shoots beautifully and, because of its comparatively compact size and slender profile, carries nicely, without a discernible print using an IWB cross-draw holster. In the summer, I carry a Polish Radom P-64, which is even more compact and slender. When camping or fishing, I bring along a little NAA Black Widow .22 magnum revolver as a pocket piece. It's as unobtrusive as it gets.

The Makarov shoots the 9 x 18, which is a little more powerful than the .380 ACP and a little less powerful than the standard Lugar 9 x 19. Guys say, 'I never carry anything that doesn't start with a '4'; i.e., .44 mag, .44 Special, .40 Smith and Wesson, .45 Colt, .45 ACP. However, all the research I've done indicates that unless whatever starts with that '4' is a rifle caliber, handguns are never a sure thing when it comes to stopping power, however 'stopping power' is defined. 85% of people shot with handguns survive the experience. I wasn't surprised, for example, when I read that recent story about that mother cornered in the attic with her kids who shot the intruder several times in the head and he survived. The numbers were with him that day, that's all. Her gun (a .38 Special revolver, I think) did what it was supposed to do: stop and/or incapacitate the attacker, remove the threat.

As an aside, I keep a Mosin-Nagant M44 carbine in the trunk of my car. I figure if I can make it to the car, I can blow just about any threat I might be facing into the next world with no problems at all.

Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2013 01:45 PM (ptcFO)

102 YOUR HOBBIEZ R INFERIUR 2 MIEN11!1!!!1!! gee whiz

Posted by: Truman North at March 31, 2013 01:46 PM (I2LwF)

103 "Thou shalt not do Murder"

That is not the same as "thou shalt not kill".

Posted by: navybrat at March 31, 2013 01:46 PM (SWuSg)

104 Don't feed the trolls.

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at March 31, 2013 01:47 PM (iZ0BY)

105 That shank was almost as bad as the break

Posted by: H R C at March 31, 2013 01:47 PM (WV0NL)

106 OT: Patrick Swazie doin Kelly Lynch right now.

Posted by: nip at March 31, 2013 01:49 PM (lGVXf)

107 "YAHWEH"(sic) is just the old troll "Mike Hunt".
Don't be feedin' him...

Posted by: ChrisP at March 31, 2013 01:50 PM (K8qMO)

108 Missed part of the game and was rewinding while scrolling up to get commentary from here. Saw the word "Theismanned". Did not rewind any further. Thank you for the warning.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am, Happy Easter, everyone! at March 31, 2013 01:52 PM (K+I6z)

109 Duke needs to let L-Ville win after that.

Posted by: USS Diversity, only watching hoops this month at March 31, 2013 01:52 PM (+bZOu)

110 A troll who calls himself God, and on Easter, no less.

Fucking sad.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at March 31, 2013 01:54 PM (celt+)

111 101 Decades ago, I was an Army private serving as an AG on an M60 machinegun team and the Army Colt .45 was my issue weapon. I fired it for qualification fairly often but never really warmed to the 1911 platform. It struck me as clunky and cumbersome, not quite right (for me) in the hand. No offense, and many thanks for your service, but I think you'll find that there's a whole world of difference between a gov't issue 1911 that might have seen several decades of service and the 1911s manufactured today on CNC machines in a highly competitive marketplace and serving a demanding client base.

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at March 31, 2013 01:55 PM (iZ0BY)

112 @88 Lightening bolt, MOTHERFUCKER, do you speak it?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 01:59 PM (4Mv1T)

113 Jefferson was just riffing on Blackstone:

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/blackstone_bk1ch1.asp

"5. THE fifth and last auxiliary right of the subject, that I shall at present mention, is that of having arms for their defence, suitable to their condition and degree, and such as are allowed by law. Which is also declared by the same statute 1 W. & M. ft. 2. c. 2. and is indeed a public allowance, under due restrictions, of the natural right of resistance and self-preservation, when the sanctions of fociety and laws are found insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression."

The Avalon OCR scan of Blackstone obviously sucks and turned many S's into F's that were never corrected. I corrected those transcription errors in the quote.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 31, 2013 01:59 PM (/gHaE)

114 Posted by: YAHWEH at March 31, 2013 05:39 PM (G6kli)

Christ enjoined the Apostles to arm themselves with swords before undertaking long journeys through sometimes hostile country--to trade their cloaks for swords, if that's what it took. Defending one's life against murderous bandits and the like is not un-Christian, and neither is literally fighting evil in a just war.

Your nick is blasphemous, so your authority to make the argument from a Christian perspective pretty much loses credibility instantly.

Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2013 02:00 PM (ptcFO)

115 Sorry. Got carried away, and on Easter. Guess that's what trolls do.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 02:02 PM (4Mv1T)

116 Random paraphrase of the day: Those who sacrifice principles essential for liberty to gain political security deserve neither security nor liberty. This means the GOP. It is one thing to not being able to immediately win. It is another to go Vichy. Of course, all signs point to the establishment being the way to go, don't they? I mean, that's what the signs say, right? Do as the Establishment desires. It will bring success. If you don't count the last two decades.

Posted by: Everything old is new again at March 31, 2013 02:02 PM (dgsP1)

117 @87: I like the Marlin model 60.

Posted by: Sardiver at March 31, 2013 02:02 PM (V1Qx2)

118 111>>> Amen! The 45s and the 9mms available for civilians are every bit as well machined and forged as anything the military is issuing as a general weapon. (Well, the SF guys get some sexy stuff and they get plenty of ammo for practice too.....lucky bastards) If someone didn't shoot more than what it took for annual qualification that's more than likely why they weren't comfortable with a 1911.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 31, 2013 02:03 PM (HhKy4)

119 I prefer a Commander length 1911, but in all other respects, agree with you here. Surprising how much difference that makes. I prefer it also.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 31, 2013 02:09 PM (S+wqt)

120 http://tinyurl.com/cs5g3my

Posted by: The Dude at March 31, 2013 02:09 PM (vJdyz)

121 118 111>>> Amen! The 45s and the 9mms available for civilians are every bit as well machined and forged as anything the military is issuing as a general weapon. (Well, the SF guys get somesexy stuff and they get plenty of ammo for practice too.....lucky bastards) Ifsomeone didn't shoot more than what it took for annual qualification that's more than likely whythey weren't comfortable with a 1911. Actually, my point was that I've seen a great many gov't issued 1911s (not today, I'm talking a couple of decades ago), wehre you could pick up the gun, shake it, and you'd hear the various pieces rattling around, including the slide on the frame. Those guns were pure shot out, assuming they were ever tight to begin with--after all, many of them had been manufactured on machinery that was decades old, and now the guns themselves had decades of use on them. Tolerances were not great. Today's CNC-machined guns have, in comparison, fantastically tight tolerances. Of course, it's still possible to build a bad 1911, even with a quality CNC slide and frame--parts like the extractor, slide stop, sear, etc. still need to be properly fitted--but a properly built 1911 today is practically a different gun than the 1911s typically issued to our servicemen in the 60s and 70s. Of course, the difference in price reflects this, as well. A good 1911 is not, by any means, an inexpensive gun. Fortunately, there are a great many good (of not quite as good :-) ) handguns on the market at reasonable prices (or, at least, there were, and hopefully will be again).

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at March 31, 2013 02:10 PM (iZ0BY)

122 Colt 1991A1 Commander in black...worked over by a smith...love my pistol

Posted by: mudshark at March 31, 2013 02:10 PM (S1plt)

123 @87
It is pretty hard to find a lousy .22 rifle. The cartridge has inherent accuracy. I paid $75 for a Remington 597 and it has Olympic accuracy with a couple of loads - and a shooting vice.

Posted by: Putter at March 31, 2013 02:10 PM (JkrPf)

124 You should have seen my hair this morning. I dragged myself into the bathroom, took one look in the mirror, put up my hands and said "ALIENS!"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 31, 2013 02:11 PM (bxiXv)

125 O/T: Please pray for the injured Louisville basketball player....horrific injury. Have seen nothing like it. May God heal him and relieve his pain, provide comfort and strength for him and his family.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at March 31, 2013 02:12 PM (baL2B)

126 119 I prefer a Commander length 1911, but in all other respects, agree with you here. Surprising how much difference that makes. I prefer it also. I carried a Commander-length Springfield ("Champion") for a while. It was a good gun. But once I went with the IWB holster, there was no good reason to limit the slide/barrel length at the cost of losing 10% or so of sight radius.

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at March 31, 2013 02:12 PM (iZ0BY)

127 Louisville player's name is Keven Ware. From what I can tell: complex tib-fib fracture. Very serious. Please pray.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at March 31, 2013 02:15 PM (baL2B)

128 my local news just covered the murders of the TX county prosecutors

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 31, 2013 02:16 PM (vzLhi)

129 yeah, media reports it was a compound fracture. grim.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2013 02:18 PM (ZPrif)

130 83 Blasphemin' Phucken Troll......

yeah we should only allow actions that have a 100% success rate to be be legal....

there goes medicine you fucking retard.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 31, 2013 02:19 PM (LRFds)

131 My kid's 16yo classmate fell last year while running on asphalt and did that to his forearm. It was compound and it was Gruesome, but with a little metal and a good surgeon, he's good as new. Had an awesome basketball season after it healed.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 02:20 PM (4Mv1T)

132 I carried a Commander-length Springfield ("Champion") for a while. It was a good gun. But once I went with the IWB holster, there was no good reason to limit the slide/barrel length at the cost of losing 10% or so of sight radius. And, I should have mentioned, the potential loss of reliability that comes with any shortening of JMB's original slide-length design (although arguably modern advances in recoil spring design (e.g., flat-wire springs, dual-springs, captured spring designs) help a great deal with the reliability issues).

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at March 31, 2013 02:21 PM (iZ0BY)

133 when it comes to sports injuries from the last 10 years, I can't make up my mind if that was worse than Clint Malarchuk's throat

Posted by: The Dude at March 31, 2013 02:21 PM (vJdyz)

134 Just watched a streaming vid of the injury. Weirdest thing, he just buckled. Didn't look like anyone touched him.

Posted by: navybrat at March 31, 2013 02:23 PM (SWuSg)

135 if it wasn't so horrific, the bench reaction of finally looking over and seeing it would be hilarious

Posted by: The Dude at March 31, 2013 02:25 PM (vJdyz)

136 but with a little metal and a good surgeon,... and Obamacare to protect his tonsils!

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 31, 2013 02:28 PM (ZCAlb)

137 You cock the hammer so the trigger requires less pressure to fire.
That is one thing on your hip and another if it's on a shelf.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 31, 2013 02:28 PM (5lScX)

138 I've had that Springfield 1911. A very good friend had to have it so he now has with me having buy back option. It is one of the best of this level pistol you can find. Hope you are holding a winning ticket.

Posted by: nfield4 at March 31, 2013 02:29 PM (c+ehv)

139 Which P239 do you have, the 9mm?

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 31, 2013 02:31 PM (+oin+)

140

121>>> I would agree that the 1911s we had in my time had seen better days and if you were carrying them in the 60s they were likely WWII and Korean service weapons. That being said, shooting for qualification and shooting for competition are a little different, like apples and rutabagas. Shooting for qual with a loosey goosey weapon is likely to give you more difficulty getting an expert award but that's about it.

Being "comfortable" with your weapon in my mind is being able to strip it and reassemble it blindfolded in less than a couple of minutes, reload a magazine in less than 30 seconds and shoot accurately from either side. Unless you were a super-grunt I doubt that was something you practiced and were proficient in. I know I wasn't then and aren't now, but its something I practice.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 31, 2013 02:32 PM (zgh7Z)

141 >>>You cock the hammer so the trigger requires less pressure to fire

For double action, yes. That's a single action 1911, is it not?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 02:32 PM (4Mv1T)

142

@87 (Rats Alley Express): "I am looking to pick up a good ground hog/ varmint 22. Really like the Ruger 10-22. Anything else out there to be looking at?"

Marlin Model 60 is pretty useful for that sort of thing, too. I have one of each, and like the Model 60 a bit better. Both are good, though. If you prefer a detachable magazine (the 60 uses a tubular one), the Marlin 795 is nice.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at March 31, 2013 02:32 PM (qigcj)

143 134 Just watched a streaming vid of the injury. Weirdest thing, he just buckled. Didn't look like anyone touched him.

Posted by: navybrat at March 31, 2013 06:23 PM (SWuSg)

Unless he had a stress fracture, I am thinking worse things (as a RN and a doomsday worst-case scenario mother of sons this age). Horrific. Joe Thiesmann horrific.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at March 31, 2013 02:33 PM (baL2B)

144

Posted by: YAHWEH at March 31, 2013 05:39 PM (G6kli)

And the best part? He uses the OLD TESTAMENT name for God.... the one where God Smote a lot of folks... and blessed the various Hebrew Tribes ON THE BATTLEFIELD.

Posted by: Pontius Pilate at March 31, 2013 02:34 PM (lZBBB)

145

@100: "You know what else is better than a gun?"

Two guns?

Posted by: Chow Yun Fat at March 31, 2013 02:34 PM (qigcj)

146 You cock the hammer so the trigger requires less pressure to fire.

1911 is SA. It needs cocking before it can fire at all. Hammer down you can squeeze till you're blue in the face and it ain't bangy

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 31, 2013 02:34 PM (/gHaE)

147 Aren't anti-gun laws essentially hate laws? Let me explain. Leftist culture doesn't use guns. They use people who use guns. But they don't use them themselves. By "leftist culture," I refer to the liberal elites and those who aspire to be liberal elites. This excepts the the urban poor, who vote with these elites but share almost no other characteristic with them. When the urban poor use guns, it is usually illegally, whether they are otherwise committing crimes or defending themselves because of the draconian gun laws they live under. This is an important distinction. Do you know who does use guns? Regular folks. Folks outside the urban bubble. Conservatives, libertarians, Old Democrats, Reagan Democrats, and non-political folks. And of course the urban poor. But the problem for all of these latter groups- the ones who use guns (mostly) legally, is not one of danger or violence, but one of taste. And one of politically incorrect voting. In the mind of the leftist, among people who are capable of making their own choices (which necessarily excludes minorities and the urban poor,) making a choice other than that which they themselves would make is an act which requires punitive correction. Yes, I do believe among the cabal of leftists at the head of both parties and the head of the federal bureaucracy, taking our guns is a necessary step to total government power over the individual. But it does not explain how leftists can achieve such broad intra-party support for meddling in the lives of the rest of us. Tell me about elected Democrats who have the power to make law who choose to protect our gun rights. There are a few, like Joe Manchin, who talk a good game. But they know they will never have to take a meaningful vote on the matter. Never. If they do, they will vote to abridge the second amendment further. No question in my mind. No, this is not responsible legislation, this is the legislation of taste. This is legislation to punish The Other. And The Other is us.

Posted by: Truman North at March 31, 2013 02:35 PM (I2LwF)

148 If it's not single action, it's not a real 1911.

Posted by: Putter at March 31, 2013 02:35 PM (JkrPf)

149 Tobacco, Looking over last night's ONT thread, I can assure you that I am posting with 100% sanctioning and approval. Wonder no more. I wouldn't do so otherwise. That's not my style. Besides, it makes me prouder to do it with her blessing.

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 02:36 PM (doBIb)

150 139 Which P239 do you have, the 9mm? Posted by: Soothsayer at March 31, 2013 06:31 PM (+oin+)]/i] Not sure if this is directed at me, but I mentioned in this thread that I have a 239, so . . . Yes, I have the 9mm. At the time I bought it, 9mm ammo was, well not great. If they'd had the 357 Sig option at the time, I probably would have bought that, instead. Today's top-shelf defensive 9mm ammo is, however, outstanding in terms of terminal ballistics (at least, some of it is), and I'm very comfortable with it loaded in either my 239, G17, or the wife's 1911 in 9mm.

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at March 31, 2013 02:36 PM (iZ0BY)

151 Kind of blows up that self defense myth don't it? So what you are saying is, it's better to have no chance whatsoever than to have a chance, even if you still don't survive? Ass.

Posted by: real joe at March 31, 2013 02:37 PM (PD2ad)

152 Oops, sorry for the italics screw up.

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at March 31, 2013 02:37 PM (iZ0BY)

153

@101: "When camping or fishing, I bring along a little NAA Black Widow .22 magnum revolver as a pocket piece. It's as unobtrusive as it gets."

I've got a NAA Mini-Magnum. Love that little sucker - hypothetically speaking, one could, if one were so inclined, carry it just about anywhere and no one would ever know. Especially in a place like Chicago, DC, NYC, LA, etc. Hypothetically.

I also like their .22 Short that comes in a belt-buckle.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at March 31, 2013 02:37 PM (qigcj)

154 >>1911 is SA./i]

Agreed. And I have one with a similar holster. I am trying to figure out what Mr. Balsz is talking about.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 02:38 PM (4Mv1T)

155

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 02:38 PM (4Mv1T)

156 No, this is not responsible legislation, this is the legislation of taste. This is legislation to punish The Other. And The Other is us.

Posted by: Truman North at March 31, 2013 06:35 PM (I2LwF)

Hmmm.... intresting thought.... maybe we should ask these Rich Assholes to talk to THEIR BODYGUARDs... about what THEY find acceptable.

You know.... those hard Men who are carrying guns so the rich assholes are safe, without having to demean themselves via self protection?

Posted by: Pontius Pilate at March 31, 2013 02:38 PM (lZBBB)

157

@106: "OT: Patrick Swazie doin Kelly Lynch right now."

Great. Another guy who gets more dead than I do alive.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at March 31, 2013 02:38 PM (qigcj)

158 They hate us for being different. And they have to make us more miserable. And in so doing... Demolish the constitution. Hate laws.

Posted by: Truman North at March 31, 2013 02:39 PM (I2LwF)

159 The teenage son of someone I know broke both of his legs just above the knee simply running around in gym class. Near the end of his healing period his leg bones were the equivalent of those of a 115-year-old woman. Apparently teenage boys have very weak bones; no wonder a lot of them drink milk by the gallon.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am, Happy Easter, everyone! at March 31, 2013 02:39 PM (K+I6z)

160 100 You know what else is better than a gun? Acid vomit. Acid vomit beats a gun at 22 feet. That's common knowledge!

Posted by: Truman North at March 31, 2013 05:45 PM (I2LwF)

/Lightining Bolt! Lightning Bolt! Lightning Bolt!

Posted by: Harry Potty at March 31, 2013 02:41 PM (lZBBB)

161

Nice 45 Dave. love the 45 but found them too large for easy cover. I carry a 9mm CZ P-01 with 15 rounds. Been carrying it as my primary for along time now and love it.

Maybe we should have a "you show me yours and I'll show you mine" thread.???

Posted by: Talibill at March 31, 2013 02:41 PM (SRk5C)

162 You cock the hammer so the trigger requires less pressure to fire.
That is one thing on your hip and another if it's on a shelf.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 31, 2013 06:28 PM (5lScX)

If you're talking traditional 1911s, all I know about are single action (SA) per Browning's design. The hammer must be cocked in order for the weapon to fire, period. Double action (DA) semi-autos and revolvers are the ones that don't require cocking the hammer beforehand.

Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2013 02:42 PM (ptcFO)

163 EC- No worries. I was looking at my wife today at a family gathering and thinking that if she had died last week, and this woman was standing in front of me, I would be asking for her phone number, and she's 51.

I asked her if I could take a picture from the neck down just for braggin' rights at the HQ. Sadly, for y'all, she's not going for it.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 02:43 PM (4Mv1T)

164 :::::But it does not explain how leftists can achieve such broad intra-party support for meddling in the lives of the rest of us. Free shit = trump card over everything else

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 02:43 PM (doBIb)

165 Maybe we should have a "you show me yours and I'll show you mine" thread.???

Posted by: Talibill at March 31, 2013 06:41 PM (SRk5C)

Yes... please do....

Posted by: Dept of Homeland Security, Website Monitor Division at March 31, 2013 02:43 PM (lZBBB)

166 yeah I have the 9mm, too reason: it holds one more round than the .40/357 I really wanted the .40/357 option, but at the time I thought having one more round was pragmatic. Plus, 9mm ammo was cheaper.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 31, 2013 02:44 PM (Y4TdB)

167 Groups pushing gun control? We should call them hate groups. Pro-gun groups? Civil rights groups. Change the language.

Posted by: Truman North at March 31, 2013 02:44 PM (I2LwF)

168 Yes... please do....

Posted by: Dept of Homeland Security, Website Monitor Division at March 31, 2013 06:43 PM (lZBBB)

heh. I meant to say "show me yours that you lost in that boating accident and i'll show you mine that I lost in that poker game awhile back" thread...

Posted by: Talibill at March 31, 2013 02:45 PM (SRk5C)

169 ::::I would be asking for her phone number, and she's 51. I know exactly what you mean. Cougars rawk!

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 02:46 PM (doBIb)

170 I've got a NAAMini-Magnum. Love that little sucker - hypothetically speaking, one could, if one were so inclined, carry it just about anywhere and no one would ever know. Especially in a place like Chicago, DC, NYC, LA, etc. Hypothetically.
I also like their .22 Short that comes ina belt-buckle.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at March 31, 2013 06:37 PM (qigcj)

I love my little Black Widow. Took forever to get used to its super-short sight radius and get to the point where I could consistently hit what I was shooting at. The key to accuracy, I've found, is gripping that little bastard like I'm meaning to crush the grip like an aluminum can.

Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2013 02:47 PM (ptcFO)

171 >>>I know exactly what you mean. Cougars rawk!

In my case, I robbed the cradle, sort of. I met here when she was 28, and thought, "Great, another 22 year old, just what I DON'T want".

Sometimes the luck holds out for a few years, eh?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 02:50 PM (4Mv1T)

172 The 239 is relatively compact, but it's heavy. Sig is high quality, so that's okay with me. But the 239 isn't something you can carry in a jacket pocket invisibly. And my Galco ankle holster -- I can feel the barrel rubbing against my ankle bone. Other than that, Im quite happy with it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 31, 2013 02:52 PM (hNqVf)

173 Hopefully just a freak accident. Potential concern there might be some underlying health condition that weakened his leg bone like that. He wasn't hit or anything. Just landed a bit weird.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2013 02:55 PM (ZPrif)

174

I have one of those- a Springfield Armory 1911 loaded in stainless. I don't carry it anymore because even with a Milt Sparks inside the waistband holster it was too big, and I discovered the wonder of Warsaw Pact pistols- namely the FEG PA-63 and the CZ-82. Both are well made, accurate, conceal well, reliable and inexpensive. The 9x18 round is a bit small, but if you can hit exactly what you are aiming at, then size is secondary. the FEG holds 8 rounds, the CZ 13. The Springfield is a very good gun. I did have some problem with the ejector coming loose from the frame, but Springfield fixed it for free and paid for shipping both ways, and in a short time frame.

If anyone goes with the FEG, replace the recoil and hammer springs- recoil at 13 Lbs and hammer at ligher than stock- 11 LBs I beleive- springs from Wolff. In stock configuration, the recoil is so snappy as to hurt your hand, and the trigger takes monster truck force to break.

Posted by: Brian at March 31, 2013 02:58 PM (51eUf)

175 Looking over last night's ONT thread, I can assure you that I am posting with 100% sanctioning and approval. Wonder no more. I wouldn't do so otherwise. That's not my style. Besides, it makes me prouder to do it with her blessing. *** BC was jonesing for you. I filled the interim with a photo of Elle MacPherson.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 31, 2013 02:58 PM (piMMO)

176 You guys who are so crazy for your wives are terrific.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 31, 2013 03:00 PM (piMMO)

177 But the 239 isn't something you can carry in a jacket pocket invisibly. And my Galco ankle holster -- I can feel the barrel rubbing against my ankle bone. Other than that, Im quite happy with it. Posted by: Soothsayer at March 31, 2013 06:52 PM (hNqVf) Oh, yeah, the 239 is by no means a pocket gun. It is, however, a very capable fighting handgun, despite its diminutive size.

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at March 31, 2013 03:00 PM (iZ0BY)

178 @172
Try a belly band "holster". I have a bit of a gut, so I wear it at arm pit level. Wear a dark shirt. I am 6'00, so I can carry a Glock 17 and nobody knows. You can also wear them below the waist, but you have to carry a junk size gun. I carry a Desert Eagle there, but ymmv.

Posted by: Putter at March 31, 2013 03:00 PM (JkrPf)

179 176 NDH,

I'm just crazy...wife is collateral damage

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 31, 2013 03:00 PM (LRFds)

180 I don't use holsters. I use "carry shirts".

Posted by: navybrat at March 31, 2013 03:01 PM (SWuSg)

181 The 9x18 round is a bit small, but if you can hit exactly what you are aiming at, then size is secondary. Posted by: Brian at March 31, 2013 06:58 PM (51eUf) Shot placement, shot placement, shot placement. Do that correctly, and the caliber hardly matters. (Still, my PDW is a 45ACP. :-) )

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at March 31, 2013 03:03 PM (iZ0BY)

182 These have been pretty receptive folks, not Brady sympathizers. Brady symp or not, every time one of these cocksuckers walks into a voting booth, he uses his vote to steal my shit and fuck me up the ass. Keep guns out of their hands. How does this make me different from them? They want to use ~~the force of law~~ mob rule to keep guns out of other people's hands. I'm only asking you please to consider the ramifications of the FUCKING MISTAKE YOU ARE MAKING.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at March 31, 2013 03:04 PM (V3kRK)

183 ::::Sometimes the luck holds out for a few years, eh? Yup!

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 03:06 PM (doBIb)

184 I'm just crazy...wife is collateral damage *** try not to let your crazy rub off on your wife. Okay?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 31, 2013 03:07 PM (piMMO)

185 >>>I filled the interim with a photo of Elle MacPherson.

And as you recall, I guessed her name, and the issue of SI 23 years ago last night, which is amazing since that is the only hard copy issue I have ever picked up. Really. It was in the lobby (yea, I'll go with the lobby) at my new employment in 1990, and I remember being flabbergasted out how spectacular Elle looked.

But not any better than my lovely cheerleader/homecoming queen, who was also a gymnast, and can kick my old ass.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 03:09 PM (4Mv1T)

186 From @CoryBooker 5hrs 'till deadline. Please help me explore a US Senate run. Be one of my 1st supporters. Contribute $1 or more at: http://t.co/pW9FEe87Cj

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 31, 2013 03:10 PM (piMMO)

187 ::::BC was jonesing for you. I filled the interim with a photo of Elle MacPherson. I saw, and thank you for that! ::::You guys who are so crazy for your wives are terrific. Crazy and proud of them!

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 03:10 PM (doBIb)

188 There are three morons who own .45 Colt Officers Models. Maybe a bit heavy for everyday carry but otherwise a very nice small pistol.

Posted by: Ed Anger at March 31, 2013 03:11 PM (tOkJB)

189 And as you recall, I guessed her name, and the issue of SI 23 years ago last night, which is amazing since that is the only hard copy issue I have ever picked up. Really. It was in the lobby (yea, I'll go with the lobby) at my new employment in 1990, and I remember being flabbergasted out how spectacular Elle looked. *** There's a reason she was called "The Body"

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 31, 2013 03:12 PM (piMMO)

190 ::::There's a reason she was called "The Body" She looks like she is still called that. It's like she stepped into a time machine from 1990 and landed in 2013.

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 03:13 PM (doBIb)

191 I likey the comblock military pistols. My carry pieces are 2. 1.) A CZ-82 comblock army pistol 12 round mag, 1 in the pipe. 9x 18 mm. I have several. 2.) a TT-33 (I have 5 of em) - steel core ss109 ammo. Its just nigh of armor piercing. 8 round mag, 9 round mag for the Yugoslavian ones. Plus 1 in the pipe. It will go thru a car block! That ole Nissan terrorist feller used that down in Texas to kill our boys (may he die a slow and painful death). Oh BTW, I'm not giving up 1 gun to those assholes. Take em! I know the lay of the land down here. If it comes to that I hope they bring lots of body bags (and 1 for me too)! I have to go to work now..I'm in the orient (diff time zone). When the SHTF I will hear about it first (most likely on here) and catch a plane back to participate in the 2nd American Revolution. Fuck them and the horse they rode in on, as we say in Texas.

Posted by: Pissed_off_voter at March 31, 2013 03:17 PM (witOH)

192 38

I would recommend against small of the back carry, especially with a revolver. You are putting a piece of steel against your spine and if you fall wrong, that could be the end of your walking (and copulating) career. My personal recommendation would be an Alessi Hideout holster inside the pants and just behind the hip on the strong side. The only problem I have encountered with that holster is that it is so comfortable that it is possible to forget you are carrying and sit down in a hard chair with a loud clunk. It doesn't hurt, it is just embarrassing.

If you would rather carry a self loading pistol than a revolver, you might consider the .357 Sig caliber because the ballistics are very similar to the .357 Magnum and the results have been similarly effective.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at March 31, 2013 03:21 PM (31Nrp)

193 My grandad carried a 1911 in France/Belgium in 1918. Brought it home, where it stayed, until a break-in at his home in Fayetteville, NC in the 60's.

That officer's sidearm had my name on it, according to my dad. I still have the two 7 round mags and canvas mag holder. I used them with my other two mags in my dad's Series 80 Govt Model to qualify for my CCW in January. They worked like they were new. Rest in peace dad, and grand dad.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 03:22 PM (4Mv1T)

194 "You guys who are so crazy for your wives are terrific.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 31, 2013 07:00 PM (piMMO) "

...or their wives are also morons. A smart man doesn't wait until he screws up to start kissing ass.

Posted by: Icedog at March 31, 2013 03:23 PM (3qKP/)

195 If you would rather carry a self loading pistol than a revolver, you might consider the .357 Sig caliber because the ballistics are very similar to the .357 Magnum and the results have been similarly effective. Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at March 31, 2013 07:21 PM (31Nrp) All true. Unfortunately, as a bottleneck cartridge, it's a real PIA to reload--and if you're not reloading, you're probably not shooting very much. Or, you're rich and I would like to be your friend, and pick up your brass. :-)

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at March 31, 2013 03:24 PM (iZ0BY)

196 ...or their wives are also morons. A smart man doesn't wait until he screws up to start kissing ass. *** ...or this.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 31, 2013 03:25 PM (piMMO)

197 Jordan, Palestinians sign agreement to protect J'lem holy sites During visit to Amman, Abbas signs agreement with King Abdullah regarding the protection of Muslim, Christian holy sites in Jerusalem The only time they ever been protected is when Israel gained control of them. And funny, but not mention of the Jewish Holy Sites? Happy Easter to all.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2013 03:27 PM (jE38p)

198 Duke going home.

Posted by: USS Diversity, only watching hoops this month at March 31, 2013 03:29 PM (+bZOu)

199 TT-33 and a CZ-82 is summer carry for me. In Winter, when its cold and I can wear a long coat (a duster)..I add a chopped AK (30 round mag) and a PPS-43C (35 round mag). The PPS-43 was a Russian tanker sub machine gun in 7.62 x 25 mm. It was converted to semi auto and is curently being imported to the US. They are officially classified as pistols according to BATF. Sheriff Tommy stopped me once, and we hashed that out. I think the official departmental position from Sheriff Tommy is "Don't fuck with that guy if he isn't doing anything illegal".

Posted by: Pissed_off_voter at March 31, 2013 03:29 PM (witOH)

200 "I likey the comblock military pistols. My carry pieces are 2.

1.) A CZ-82 comblock army pistol 12 round mag, 1 in the pipe. 9x 18 mm. I have several.

2.) a TT-33 (I have 5 of em) - steel core ss109 ammo. Its just nigh of armor piercing. 8 round mag, 9 round mag for the Yugoslavian ones. Plus 1 in the pipe. It will go thru a car block! That ole Nissan terrorist feller used that down in Texas to kill our boys (may he die a slow and painful death)..."

Posted by: Pissed_off_voter at March 31, 2013 07:17 PM (witOH)

I love my commie pistols: two Toks (a Polish TT-33 and a Yugo M57), a CZ-52 (which technically belongs to my son but, hey, he's in the Army so I shoot it when I like), a Polish Radom P-64, and a Makarov.

So far, I've put approximately 2000 rounds through the Yugo M57 Tokarev, the most used of the bunch, without a single malfunction.

For me, the most important aspect of any firearm is reliability. It must go bang every time. Evidently, the commies were big on reliability.

Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2013 03:29 PM (ptcFO)

201 If semi autos were not so popular, Bulgaria would be minus one PM.

Posted by: Beagle at March 31, 2013 03:30 PM (sOtz/)

202 Wow Tobacco Road. Sounds as if we've ridden the same streets. Granddad served in WWI and I grew up an army brat in Fayetteville. No way someone stole anything in Fayetteville. /s

Posted by: Golfman at March 31, 2013 03:34 PM (/djtm)

203 @ Troyriser, I dont have a CZ -52, but have 2 Polish P-64's. My wife purloined one (the bright and shiny one)..she calls that and her little 22 auto her "baby guns". I have to laugh . Its good to meet a fellow that appreciates the value of comblock pistols!

Posted by: Pissed_off_voter at March 31, 2013 03:36 PM (witOH)

204 I grew up an army brat in Fayetteville. No way someone stole anything in Fayetteville. /s

Posted by: Golfman at March 31, 2013 07:34 PM (/djtm)

Nearly four years with the 82nd at Bragg. I can most definitely relate.

Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2013 03:36 PM (ptcFO)

205 ::::...or their wives are also morons. A smart man doesn't wait until he screws up to start kissing ass. Ha! My wife laughs at my moron world doings here on the HQ. I show her some of the crazy things that get put up on the blog: kitteh and puppy vids, potatoes, flaming skulls, etc. She does not get it and asks me why the laundry is still not folded and put away.

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2013 03:37 PM (doBIb)

206 New one up.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 03:38 PM (4Mv1T)

207 OT: How truly sad that the Pastor where the Obama's went to Easter service today would use the occasion to demonize those on the right of the political spectrum. It was the perfect trifecta of racism, mysognony, and homophobia.

I guess that I shouldn't be surprised but I am. I would like to ask this "Pastor" what kind of Christianity he subscribes to? Sowing racial hatred is working out real well in Chicago, Philadelphia, NYC, etc. Mobs of black teens creating havoc and assaulting people. He should be real proud of the work that he, Wright, Sharpton, and Jackson has done.

Posted by: Cheri at March 31, 2013 03:41 PM (EAgmr)

208 Golfman- My grandad was in the timber/lumber business there after WWI, and my mom's dad came home from the mission field in the 20's, with his wife, where he was the chaplain for the VA Hospital for about 30 years.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 03:41 PM (4Mv1T)

209 I am considering trading my Ruger SR 9 for a Sig M11- A1, any recommendations?

Posted by: Mandrill Redass at March 31, 2013 03:45 PM (Ouu6y)

210 Posted by: Mandrill Redass

That Moron nic alone deserves oak leaf clusters or something

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 03:47 PM (4Mv1T)

211 Yes, we have a small troop on Central Fl.

Posted by: Mandrill Redass at March 31, 2013 03:50 PM (Ouu6y)

212 195

The .357 Sig bottleneck configuration, like the 7.62 X 25, tends to improve reliable feeding.

These days I am not doing a lot of shooting since every trip to the range decreases my ammunition hoard. At current ammunition and component prices and availablity I am not replenishing my stash. These days I mainly just take newbies shooting. That seems like a worthwhile investment.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at March 31, 2013 03:53 PM (31Nrp)

213 >>>That Moron nic alone deserves oak leaf clusters or something

And I meant that in a good way. I believe that nic has been recognized here for its, uh, singularity before.

Amiright?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 03:59 PM (4Mv1T)

214 199

How do you carry a TT-33? There is no safety so the only safe carry is with the chamber empty which would seem to present some issues with getting it into action in a timely manner.

If you are that enamored with the 7.62 X 25 cartridge, and I can see why you would be, the CZ-52 might be a better choice as a carry gun. Besides, it has the same locking mechanism as an MG-42 and that is cool.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at March 31, 2013 04:02 PM (31Nrp)

215 Thank you, Tobacco, we are humble , but stinky group.

Posted by: Mandrill Redass at March 31, 2013 04:04 PM (Ouu6y)

216 Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 04:52 PM (4Mv1T) try crossbreed. they're supertuck is the most secure and comfortable IWB holster I've ever found. Good folks, too. If for summer wear, go for the horsehide - denser, doesn't soak up sweat like leather will.

Posted by: bill_in_kennesaw at March 31, 2013 04:05 PM (/E2r8)

217 209 I am considering trading my Ruger SR 9 for a Sig M11- A1, any recommendations? The M11 (Sig 22

is a proven platform. It's also twice as much NIB as the SR9, so I presume things are going well for you these days, and that's a good thing. :-)

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at March 31, 2013 04:07 PM (iZ0BY)

218 Hmmm , that was supposed to read "Sig two-two-eight". Not, "two-two-smilie". Ah well.

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at March 31, 2013 04:08 PM (iZ0BY)

219 228 is correct, have gov background.

Posted by: Mandrill Redass at March 31, 2013 04:11 PM (Ouu6y)

220

I have a 1911 Colt circa 1918. Saw service in the Great War and is just as good today.

As for the Henry, nice little rifles but from an engravers point of view (which I am), they are not worth squat to carve on. All that pretty gold blank space with nothing but composite (read aluminum pot metal) underneath. Their big caliber guns, whole different ballgame, they are awesome to carve on.

Posted by: Pflco at March 31, 2013 04:11 PM (t+MQk)

221 214 Obnoxious Ahole,

A custom holster could mechanically render the TT-33 "safe". The Israelis also carry semis inert in one of their CCW doctrines. I agree on the CZ-52 though, CZ-52 is strong enough you can make white-hot custom loads go zoom safely.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at March 31, 2013 04:13 PM (LRFds)

222 LSD- Thanks for you recommendations last week. I found multiple IDPA events locally here, even though no "clubs". Plenty of sanctioned events for Self Defense practice, match practice, and matches.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 04:15 PM (4Mv1T)

223 b_i_k - I've bookmarked them. Thanks.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2013 04:20 PM (4Mv1T)

224 My dad was just given a little .25 when his sergeant retired. He gave it to me to see if I could get it in working order and maybe see if I could keep the barrel from shooting out every time you chamber a round. I fixed that, but when I went to test fire it, nothing happened. Looks like the firing pin is broken and I'll probably be Kachin a new one once I can extract the old one. Any thoughts on machining a new firing pin (with minimal tools)?

Posted by: .87c at March 31, 2013 04:25 PM (cPDhg)

225 Tobacco Road. Rode by the VA on Ramsey bout 2 hours ago. Both parents lie across the street. Small world.

Posted by: Golfman at March 31, 2013 04:32 PM (/djtm)

226 How do you release the hammer from full cock?

Posted by: 1911 at March 31, 2013 04:32 PM (iQWqI)

227 How do you carry a TT-33? There is no safety so the only safe carry is with the chamber empty which would seem to present some issues with getting it into action in a timely manner.

If you are that enamored with the 7.62 X 25 cartridge, and I can see why you would be, the CZ-52 might be a better choice as a carry gun. Besides, it has the same locking mechanism as an MG-42 and that is cool.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at March 31, 2013 08:02 PM (31Nrp)

I bought a really nice small-of-the-back holster for my Polish Radom TT-33. The 'import' safety that was added to the piece is actually nicely integrated and works as it should; unlike, say, my Yugo M57, where the safety looks like an afterthought tacked on by Olga the cleaning lady after third shift.

I only carry the Polish Tok (in the small-of-the-back holster) when I'm wearing a sports jacket or a long coat in winter. I trust the safety.

Much as I love shooting it, the CZ-52 is one big hunk of metal to try to carry around concealed. If I'm carrying around the CZ-52, it means I'm either at the range or I'm wandering the post-apocalyptic wasteland, scrounging for canned food and toilet paper.

Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2013 04:41 PM (ptcFO)

228 I carry 9mm +P, 7 rounds, the entire rig weighs maybe 21 ounces, and I carry all the time because its so light and comfortable...

Posted by: 1911 at March 31, 2013 04:44 PM (iQWqI)

229 Girls, you should come to a gunfight with a gun, not my hip was sore so I left it at home.

Posted by: 1911 at March 31, 2013 04:49 PM (iQWqI)

230 This bitch still on? ?

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 31, 2013 04:57 PM (zzeVM)

231 Jack it Jake

Be gone

Posted by: 1911 at March 31, 2013 04:59 PM (iQWqI)

232 Girls, you should come to a gunfight with a gun, not my hip was sore so I left it at home.

Posted by: 1911 at March 31, 2013 08:49 PM (iQWqI)

I read a quote from a firearms expert--I think it was Clint Smith (but I keep thinking Dick Casull as well)--who said (paraphrasing), 'A carry gun is supposed to be comforting, not comfortable.'

In my view, that doesn't mean we should strap a hand cannon to our hip. I carry concealed not because concealment is a requirement in my home state (it isn't) but because the sight of a gun worn by an obvious civilian tends to discomfit people. I don't want to cause apprehension or unease among ordinary, peaceable folks in public places.

Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2013 05:02 PM (ptcFO)

233 Hah! At TroyRiser 232.....Exactly!

Posted by: Pissed_off_voter at March 31, 2013 05:07 PM (Sedwk)

234 Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2013 09:02 PM (ptcFO)

No one can tell I am carrying as I carry light and thin and deep behind a gun belt.

Posted by: 1911 at March 31, 2013 05:08 PM (iQWqI)

235 222 LSD- Thanks for you recommendations last week. I found multiple IDPA events locally here, even though no "clubs". Plenty of sanctioned events for Self Defense practice, match practice, and matches. Cool, glad that worked out for you. My greatest life-long friends I made through one or another aspect of IDPA. Of course, the shooting sports are pretty friendly, regardless of the particular discipline.

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at March 31, 2013 05:15 PM (iZ0BY)

236 I have a regular large loop Henry, not a Golden Boy, and I like it just fine.

Posted by: toby928© presents at March 31, 2013 05:20 PM (QupBk)

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