April 07, 2013

Gun Thread (4-7-2013)
— andy

The Giffords-Kelly Lie Machine Strikes Again

Not content to let her husband have all the action, Gabrielle Giffords falsely implies that her assailant was not subjected to a background check.

Right now, we have one system where responsible gun owners take a background check — my husband, Mark, took one just last month, and it took 5 minutes and 36 seconds. I remember waiting a lot longer than that for the subway to take me to my office when I lived in New York City! And then we have a second system for those who don’t want to take a background check. Those people — criminals, or people suffering from mental illness, like the young man who shot me — can buy as many guns as they want on the Internet or at a gun show, no questions asked.

There are several lies here, in fact. Let's dispense with the main one: Jared Loughner passed a background check, so STFU.

Now for the rest of her bullshit. First off, I was at a gun store last weekend and watched a guy wait a hell of a lot longer than 5 minutes for his "instant" background check to come back. It got flagged for further review, and he said this happens to him every time he buys a gun. There must be something in the database that's not perfectly clean, unlike ... say ... the record of an astronaut and husband of a congressman, that keeps tripping it. He still didn't have his gun when I left the store, but the owner and other customers got a good chuckle when I joked that adding every private transaction nationwide would obviously make this process more efficient.

And, for the millionth time, gun purchases "on the Internet" or "at a gun show" are subject to all federal and state laws governing the buyer and seller. Why aren't they screaming about the "classified ad loophole"? It's the same thing.

So, once again, we have people agitating for new laws on a false premise and without examining why the existing ones don't work. See also, Democrats.


Gun Of The Week

What's this beauty?

(answer below)


Marksmanship Award


Gun Of The Week - Answer

That's the Colt M1877 "Lightning" double-action revolver in .38 Long Colt, with its distinctive bird's-head grip. The store I was in last weekend had a nice one that I would have picked up in ordinary times. Now my budget is devoted to ammo over museum pieces.


Shock! Horror! Conservative Posts Infographic At BuzzFeed

@collegepolitico posted a nice infographic over at BuzzFeed this week.

Good on him for thinking to go beyond just preaching to the choir. We need to be doing more of this kind of thing.


Interesting Site

One of our erstwhile readers tipped me to thedonovan.com, which has a nice collection of gun pr0n you morons might want to check out.


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1 BANG! The gun thread is here.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 08:58 AM (4Mv1T)

2 I'm all jazzed about the self-defense and IDPA practice nights I just found locally.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 08:59 AM (4Mv1T)

3 I hate these people and their utter bullshit. How did his asshole get to be an astronaut with this kind of character defect? Who would trust him in space?

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 08:59 AM (I2LwF)

4 And thanks for a great gun thread, Andy. Beautiful revolver, that Colt.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 09:01 AM (4Mv1T)

5 I'm sorry, have you watched her speak? Her brain is pudding. Someone wrote that for her.

Posted by: Mrs Compton at April 07, 2013 09:01 AM (dX4hn)

6 Okay, I was willing to give Giffords the benefit of the doubt that her husband was putting out statements in her name, now I know otherwise. Shame what happened to her, especially the bit where authorities were alerted and chose not to act so as not to embarrass his family, but my sympathy just evaporated.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 07, 2013 09:02 AM (wbeNt)

7 >How did his asshole get to be an astronaut with this kind of character defect? Who would trust him in space? Guess he sucked the right four dicks

Posted by: The irrepressible Flap Maxwell at April 07, 2013 09:02 AM (8sCoq)

8 Hey Ace , where is the Mayor John Fetterman Shotgun story ?

Posted by: DrDrill at April 07, 2013 09:02 AM (Q9+Ap)

9 It's the husband I can't stand. We already knew she was an unprincipled lying statist.

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 09:02 AM (p0uh1)

10 You know who we never hear about on guns? TODD ROLL. Because he's dead.

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 09:03 AM (p0uh1)

11 Colt peacemaker!

Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2013 09:04 AM (53z96)

12 Truman- My eldest is flying in from Bean Town as we speak. Hadn't seen him in 8 months. Will be interesting to see where his head is now, politically speaking, having been on campus.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 09:05 AM (4Mv1T)

13 That is a Colt Lightning a definite Gunsmith Beauty Queen...

as in it spends so much time at the gunsmith it may as well be adultery.....


Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:05 AM (LRFds)

14 can buy as many guns as they want on the Internet or at a gun show, no questions asked.


Idiot liar.

Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2013 09:06 AM (53z96)

15 Is Gabby even able to communicate her own bullshit effectively? Are we sure HE isn't assigning her name to his language?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 07, 2013 09:06 AM (piMMO)

16 6 Polli the Wogette,

she's either as retarded as brady was rendered or a malignant bitch....

either way I am not placing a lot of stock in her pap

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:06 AM (LRFds)

17

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 01:03 PM (p0uh1)

 

Who's Todd Roll? Was he the judge who was killed when Giffords was shot?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 07, 2013 09:06 AM (wbeNt)

18 friendly reminder check out gunssavelives.net everyday for stories of how guns across America save lives EVERY SINGLE DAY!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 07, 2013 09:07 AM (GVxQo)

19 >>>Is Gabby even able to communicate her own bullshit effectively

She completely lost me at "for the children" a few weeks back.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 09:07 AM (4Mv1T)

20 14 Vic,

He needs to excplain to me precisely how to do so...

he is actually going after gunbroker I suspect which is as by the book as it gets....

trust me I know that is where I bought my FEG p9rk this month....

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:07 AM (LRFds)

21 Sam Colt's bio says he claims he got the idea for the revolver after looking at the big wheel that steers a sailing ship I also like this: Sent to boarding school, he amused his classmates with pyrotechnics. In 1830, a July 4 accident caused a fire that ended his schooling

Posted by: The irrepressible Flap Maxwell at April 07, 2013 09:07 AM (8sCoq)

22 3 truman north,

this ain't your daddy's space program....

the Astronauts of the last 20 years can't hold the mercury7 guys' jockstrap.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:08 AM (LRFds)

23 Well, I screwed that one up.

Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2013 09:08 AM (53z96)

24

They love hanging "common sense" on all the shit legislation. I mean, who could be against common sense? The problem is the term has no measurable value.

 

Using "common sense" is kind of genius. It lets the LIVs create their own internal propaganda.

Posted by: Ook? at April 07, 2013 09:09 AM (OQpzc)

25 A psychologist tried to warn us about Loughner. I guess we will ignore that dropped ball and focus on... SQUIRREL!

Posted by: Beagle at April 07, 2013 09:09 AM (sOtz/)

26 Andy....

if you're looking for a nice bird's head piece that is not quite so finicky might I suggest...?

http://tinyurl.com/6qvysfv

I plan to convert an open top to a bird's head...

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:11 AM (LRFds)

27 this ain't your daddy's space program.... the Astronauts of the last 20 years can't hold the mercury7 guys' jockstrap. *** Space program? Bid away http://t.co/sUdpFVHdVr

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 07, 2013 09:11 AM (piMMO)

28 That's a pretty gun.

Posted by: mama winger at April 07, 2013 09:11 AM (P6QsQ)

29 yesterdays results at the range pic.twitter.com/aPJxRBEWl7

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 07, 2013 09:11 AM (GVxQo)

30 yesterdays results at the range pic.twitter.com/aPJxRBEWl7 *** Nice job!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 07, 2013 09:12 AM (piMMO)

31 28 Mama Winger,

The Bird's head is a very elegant grip for a shoulder holster carried piece...

I am seriously thinking of carrying a nickle plated .357 if I go back into bodyguarding or get my Bail Enforcement license.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:13 AM (LRFds)

32 Holmes not Loughner. Doh. Never mind.

Posted by: Beagle at April 07, 2013 09:13 AM (sOtz/)

33 The Loughner SOB is still breathing air in AZ and will not be executed. How is that damn possible?

Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2013 09:13 AM (53z96)

34 My kids bought me a pearl handled revolver a couple of years ago.  Best Christmas Present Ever.

Posted by: mama winger at April 07, 2013 09:15 AM (P6QsQ)

35 34 Mama Winger,

I have probably bought my last Hi-Cap weapon....

the future, because we are ruled by retards, is destined to be the 1911 and '73's babies...

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:16 AM (LRFds)

36 thanks NDH

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 07, 2013 09:16 AM (GVxQo)

37 I obtained my NRA Basic Pistol certification yesterday in preparation for my CWP class in two weeks.  The gun club through which I'm taking the classes has the NRA cert as a prerequisite.  They teach both, and they're $20 each, so it's not a bad deal.  Plus, it gave me a chance to play with my 22/45 Mk III.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's award-winning solid gold diaphragm at April 07, 2013 09:18 AM (7xeJQ)

38 24 Ook,

I favor common sense Lawyer control....

you grab the shears and I'll grab their pants...

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:19 AM (LRFds)

39 Hey right wing murderers, got any ideas for another stupid song about mocking you? I got some cool publicity from my latest one and I've gotta figure out SOME way to put those asses in theater seats!

Posted by: Jim Carrey at April 07, 2013 09:19 AM (mCvL4)

40 Andy, can you pimp the Minuteman Project in your gun thread header?

Posted by: Jean at April 07, 2013 09:20 AM (sv/s3)

41 17 Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 01:03 PM (p0uh1) Who's Todd Roll? Was he the judge who was killed when Giffords was shot? You betcha. He was conservative which is why his memory has been disappeared.

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 09:21 AM (I2LwF)

42 Tobacco Road: I shudder to think. What school is he at? At Boston College and MIT, he has a sliver of a chance. But the Boston college scene is so far left... Man... 20 years ago it was full on commie. I can't imagine.

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 09:22 AM (I2LwF)

43 Remember that Gabby's hole in her head gives her complete moral authority in the eyes of the MSM, so you are not allowed under any circumstances to challenge her assertions or point out her drooling

Posted by: kbdabear at April 07, 2013 09:22 AM (mCvL4)

44 43 KBDaBear,

but if you used a weapon to stop a felony you're no hero and probably a monster...

neat set of morals they have there...be a shame if anything happened to 'em

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:23 AM (LRFds)

45 I thought killing a Federal Judge earned you a Federal noose?

Posted by: Jean at April 07, 2013 09:23 AM (sv/s3)

46
People like Giffords and Kelly are always trying to find someone to blame for the tragic happenings in their lives, other than blame the actual perpetrator.

Hey A-hole, I didn't shoot your wife.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 07, 2013 09:24 AM (IY7Ir)

47 I thought killing a Federal Judge earned you a Federal noose?

Posted by: Jean at April 07, 2013 01:23 PM (sv/s3)


It is one of the crimes that the feds have the death penalty for.  But the sorry SOB managed to plea his way out of the death penalty.  Supposedly AZ is considering trying him as well to get the death penalty from them.

Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2013 09:25 AM (53z96)

48 Went 1911 shopping on Friday....I discovered I didn't have a clue as to how many variations/manufacturers this design has spawned.....I must have looked at/ handled 30 or so before I decided on one.

Posted by: BignJames at April 07, 2013 09:26 AM (H9MGI)

49 46 Guy Mohawk,

yup go ask the Sheriff why he refused to stop the shooter Mr. Giffords

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:26 AM (LRFds)

50 Hey A-hole, I didn't shoot your wife. *** I didn't enslave you ancestors.... I didn't pants and locker you in high school....

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 07, 2013 09:26 AM (piMMO)

51 48 BigNJames,

yup...

gonna buy a Rock Island Arsenal Slide and build a 9mm Commander on it for carry...

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:27 AM (LRFds)

52 Went 1911 shopping on Friday....I discovered I didn't have a clue as to how many variations/manufacturers this design has spawned.....I must have looked at/ handled 30 or so before I decided on one.

Posted by: BignJames at April 07, 2013 01:26 PM (H9MGI)



I love my cut down 1911A1 officer's model.

Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2013 09:27 AM (53z96)

53 That is before it fell in the river.

Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2013 09:27 AM (53z96)

54 50 NDH,

I did screw his sister...but so did about 3/4ths the student body IIRC

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:28 AM (LRFds)

55 "I didn't pants and locker you in high school..." I did, haha

Posted by: Jean at April 07, 2013 09:28 AM (A4r1U)

56 53 Vic,

I warned my guns not to take up SCUBA diving

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:28 AM (LRFds)

57 i'm pretty sure after watching video of St. Gabby mimic one word like a parrot, that she isn't "implying" anything. Things are being implied on her behalf and attributed to her. But she's too mentally damaged to contribute honestly or intellectually to the public debate. Just like the deceased Paul Wellstone, she's being cynically used by the Leftists. Difference is, her body is still alive, and as long as it is, they'll have a ready-made Saint of "how-dare-you-question-the-narrative" ready to trot out for stupid op-eds like this.

Posted by: IronDioPriest at April 07, 2013 09:29 AM (1dJQd)

58 Bought my first rifle yesterday - a SIG M400. It was a "fuck I'm glad I moved to NH and I'm not living in Massachusetts anymore" present to myself.

Can't wait to try it out.

Posted by: Gaff at April 07, 2013 09:29 AM (iV8i3)

59 If Loughner failed his background check, wouldn't he be able to still buy a gun legally elsewhere, or am I missing something?

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at April 07, 2013 09:29 AM (csi6Y)

60 gonna buy a Rock Island Arsenal Slide and build a 9mm Commander on it for carry... Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 01:27 PM (LRFds) Looked @ a couple of RIAs....seemed well made for the $$

Posted by: BignJames at April 07, 2013 09:29 AM (H9MGI)

61 57 IronDioPriest,

yup...the donks were punsihedfor the Wellstone shit...this this is golden....

your democrat party "we need zombies not corpses"

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:29 AM (LRFds)

62 This thread has made me notice the gaping hole in my arsenal - a 38Super.

Posted by: Jean at April 07, 2013 09:30 AM (A4r1U)

63 @48

Slickguns.net has had a flurry of 1911 listing over the past week.  I picked up a stainless Remington a couple of weeks ago though I'm currently ammoless.  Which one did you settle on?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's award-winning solid gold diaphragm at April 07, 2013 09:30 AM (7xeJQ)

64 60 BigNJames,

they are...

I am not a snob on guns, I'm a utilitarian...

is it functional and does it meet the needs for my mission profile in having it...

I want best bang for the buck not 'the best bang no matter the bucks"

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:31 AM (LRFds)

65 62 jean,

build a 1911 Super.....

I almost bought one right before I bought my Hungarian 9mm

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:31 AM (LRFds)

66 Seven weeks to get a background check on the FNS-9 I just bought.

Posted by: Gregroy of Yardale at April 07, 2013 09:32 AM (dF8d/)

67 63 @48 Slickguns.net has had a flurry of 1911 listing over the past week. I picked up a stainless Remington a couple of weeks ago though I'm currently ammoless. Which one did you settle on? Posted by: Sandra Fluke's award-winning solid gold diaphragm at April 07, 2013 01:30 PM (7xeJQ) Springfield...."Range Officer"

Posted by: BignJames at April 07, 2013 09:32 AM (H9MGI)

68 58 Gaff,

enjoy...

always practice good range safety and try to learn your range safety's tolerance on rapid fire....


Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:32 AM (LRFds)

69
I got pants in high school, so I am going to destroy the U.S.

Posted by: Brackky Obumbles at April 07, 2013 09:32 AM (IY7Ir)

70 If Gabby was packing, she could of capped that psycho.

Posted by: tony redenzo at April 07, 2013 09:32 AM (1MsBy)

71 I warned my guns not to take up SCUBA diving

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 01:28 PM (LRFds)



Mine obviously forgot how to swim.

Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2013 09:33 AM (53z96)

72 71 Vic,

my arms lack arms...

though some have legs...

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:34 AM (LRFds)

73 60

Looked @ a couple of RIAs....seemed well made for the $$


Posted by: BignJames at April 07, 2013 01:29 PM (H9MGI)

Speaking of which, there's an RAI at Bud's Guns right now for $423 shipped. If a Moron here is interested in getting into the wonderful world of 1911s at a low price point, it's my understanding that this is the way to do it.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's award-winning solid gold diaphragm at April 07, 2013 09:34 AM (7xeJQ)

74

Frankly Andy,

I'd love to take the arguments beyond the choir, and as an academic you think I'd have a reasonable platform to start that mess.

Sadly not so much.  I get stunned into stupid by a whole bunch of the things I hear, that it's hard to argue against it.

Hell last nigh after the police left my house for the fireworks call brought upon us by the neighbor's playing with the fireworks my libtard friend told me "we don't live in a police state."

Really, now? I'm pretty sure we live in the middle of the fucking Panopitcon.

He also said he'd never heard of "Contempt of Cop."

Posted by: tsrblke at April 07, 2013 09:35 AM (GaqMa)

75 A couple weeks back I asked about S&W M&P 15s, and I'm still keeping an eye out for those or similar since I'm still raising enough cash to purchase one before the background check bill passes here in Delaware (the state AWB appears to be dead in the water, though a magazine limit may still pass).  Does anyone know anything about Spike's Tactical rifles?  The reviews seem really good but I did some of my research on AR15.com, and a lot of the stuff on that site was either dense jargon or straight up dick wagging. 

Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at April 07, 2013 09:35 AM (aozUR)

76 It's good to see Gabby Giffords and JimmBrady have put their head together on this.

Posted by: Elizabeth's Rat at April 07, 2013 09:36 AM (G230Z)

77 Dick wagging at arfcom, say it isn't so

Posted by: Jean at April 07, 2013 09:36 AM (A4r1U)

78
  @59  -  No.

but he may have been able to buy one illegally, which is why background checks don't work, criminals will find them anyway.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 07, 2013 09:37 AM (IY7Ir)

79 76, we can see the light thru them

Posted by: Jean at April 07, 2013 09:37 AM (A4r1U)

80 48 Went 1911 shopping on Friday....I discovered I didn't have a clue as to how many variations/manufacturers this design has spawned.....I must have looked at/ handled 30 or so before I decided on one. Posted by: BignJames at April 07, 2013 01:26 PM (H9MGI) OK, so what did you buy?

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at April 07, 2013 09:38 AM (JQuNB)

81 "Those people-criminals, or people suffering from mental illness" Oh, you mean Congressmen.

Posted by: Et tu at April 07, 2013 09:38 AM (N57hb)

82 John Roll.

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2013 09:38 AM (nqBYe)

83 i'm pretty sure after watching video of St. Gabby mimic one word like a parrot, that she isn't "implying" anything. Things are being implied on her behalf and attributed to her. But she's too mentally damaged to contribute honestly or intellectually to the public debate. *** that's exactly what I was getting at above. That opportunistic HUSBAND of hers is using her like a hand-puppet.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 07, 2013 09:38 AM (piMMO)

84 but gun laws do work just not perfectly. I am not sure of your point, is it that we shouldn't have ANY gun laws because people don't always obey them ?

Posted by: occam at April 07, 2013 09:40 AM (Vns6X)

85 Are we sure HE isn't assigning her name to his language? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 07, 2013 01:06 PM (piMMO) That's my thinking. Too convenient of a puppet to not utilize.

Posted by: RWC at April 07, 2013 09:41 AM (Wl/Ht)

86 hief judges of the circuit, I must say he was always the hardest working — always looking out for his district. He’ll be a great loss to his family, but he’ll also be a great loss to the federal judiciary.”

He said Judge Roll was a good friend who sought increased federal resources for his district, which had seen a surge in felony cases related to drugs and crime along the border with Mexico.

Judge Roll was no stranger to the risks of public service. He and his wife were provided protection by the Federal Marshals Service in 2009 in connection with a case in which a group of Mexicans sued an Arizona rancher for $32 million

ny times

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2013 09:41 AM (nqBYe)

87 OK, so what did you buy? Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at April 07, 2013 01:38 PM (JQuNB) Springfield "Range Officer"....basically an entry level comp. gun.....match barrel...adj. sights...trigger. Not necessarily what I set out for, but I liked it.

Posted by: BignJames at April 07, 2013 09:42 AM (H9MGI)

88   Of  COURSE gun laws do work--just look at all the law abiding people that obey them.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 07, 2013 09:42 AM (SAMxH)

89 84 but gun laws do work just not perfectly. I am not sure of your point, is it that we shouldn't have ANY gun laws because people don't always obey them ? Posted by: occam at April 07, 2013 01:40 PM (Vns6X) Yes.

Posted by: RWC at April 07, 2013 09:43 AM (Wl/Ht)

90 I directed the choir at church this morning. Wish Id had my pistol. Man they sucked.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholx at April 07, 2013 09:43 AM (G230Z)

91 Well, I have had a great week shooting wise. My hubby gave me a Sig AR 516 for my birthday a couple weeks ago. At the same time I purchased through Gunbroker a nice Smith and Wesson M&P 9c. Took the M&P and a Glock 26 to the range for first time shooting. Not too bad, though I pulled down on both guns. Need some more rounds under my belt to get used to them. Also took the AR to the range. This was a challenge for me, because it looks NOTHING like any rifle I shot back thirty years ago or more. Luckily the rangemaster ran through the basics for me. I only did twenty rounds (ammo hard to get a reasonable price) but all went in the center or 10 ring. SWEET GUN!!! I loved it! Will be practicing a lot more when I can get the ammo. Am looking at the Appleseed course for training on the rifle. Any other courses for rifle that I should look at??

Posted by: San Antonio Rose at April 07, 2013 09:44 AM (p8FF+)

92 73 Sandra Fluke's award winning golden parachute,

Yeah I guess it is time for me to fulfill my one useful function  here....

Okay the Budget 1911......

http://tinyurl.com/dyzvekm

Sarco RIA frame and slide kit for ~225...


http://tinyurl.com/cgdmutt

SARCO RIA frame only ~110 dollars...

both of the above must be shipped to an FFL and as always check local and state laws...

it *is* almost better for one to buy and build to custom specs on the 1911 simply because that way you make contact with a gunsmith and can figure out what is vital to YOU....

I want some nice custom grips...

gonna get a scrimshaw 10th MTN patch and a Cav patch on the grips on my commander...

http://tinyurl.com/d4u4pgr



SARCO RIA .38 Super 1911

price ~ 406 bucks

and from the "hmmmm" file....


http://tinyurl.com/clrs5dd

Gunbroker has a new .38special 1911 that requires wadcutter ammo...

I may buy one of those since I plan to reload .38 at some point for wife's SASS habit....


Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:44 AM (LRFds)

93 Spike's is badass milspec- I have 2- but they are spicy meatballs.  turners outdoorsman has S and W AR's on sale right now- I don't suggest the cheapest one

Posted by: DAvinci at April 07, 2013 09:45 AM (XDC0v)

94

Of course this goddamned whore didnt write a single word of this shit. 

 

She now has an IQ proximate to that of a family pet, which certainly doesnt disqualify her from being a Dem in good standing.

 

God rest the precious innocents lost to this devil and I say give him the chair for them AND for not finishing the job on 'Gabby'.  

 

 

Posted by: njinfl at April 07, 2013 09:45 AM (Iis02)

95
   I need to look into a cylinder conversion for my Rogers and Spencer.  Being a topstrap revolver, it's much stronger than my Colts.

    Since .45acp is so hard to get PLUS .22LR on the endangered list, charcoal will factor into range time a bit more.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 07, 2013 09:46 AM (SAMxH)

96 "buy as many guns as they want on the Internet or at a gun show, no questions asked." What is this gun-show loophole I keep hearing about? I go to lots of gun shows here in Illinois, and they won't let you _touch_ a gun or ammo without showing a FOID card, which takes more than 3 months of background-checking by the Illinois State Police to issue. Some shows, like the McHenry IL show I went to today, won't even let you dry-fire any gun under any circumstances, even with snap-caps. Where are these gun-shows where anybody can supposedly walk in and buy any gun, no questions asked?

Posted by: gp at April 07, 2013 09:46 AM (mk9aG)

97 75 Hoss Fuentes,

M+P 15s are a good weapon when priced sanely...

I almsot bought a pair instead of custom building...at the time I would have saved ~200 bucks

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:46 AM (LRFds)

98 #90 That is why I do not sing in my church choir.

Posted by: San Antonio Rose at April 07, 2013 09:46 AM (p8FF+)

99 91 San Antonio Rose,

You'll find that eventually you will wonder how you ever did well with the A1 generation of ARs...

the classic A2 sight picture is far superior...

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:48 AM (LRFds)

100 Posted by: njinfl at April 07, 2013 01:45 PM (Iis02) clean up on aisle 94

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 07, 2013 09:49 AM (GVxQo)

101 It's nice not having to go thru a background check when buying from a dealer. The ugly stares you get are priceless.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2013 09:49 AM (rghQr)

Posted by: DAvinci at April 07, 2013 09:49 AM (XDC0v)

103 84 Occtard,

let's get to enforcing the existing gun laws and finance laws like your buddy's buddy got away with scott free....

"oops ~1.5 billion dollars...how'd that get in my right pocket?'

//Jed Corzine...

GFYS

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 09:49 AM (LRFds)

104 Argh. Every time I  hit  refresh I get a warning about "cross-scripting". What's weird is that it's only on this thread, not any of the others.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 07, 2013 09:51 AM (wbeNt)

105 Posted by: njinfl at April 07, 2013 01:45 PM (Iis02) *** This is just.... gross.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 07, 2013 09:51 AM (piMMO)

106 Oops, "cross-*site* scripting".

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 07, 2013 09:52 AM (wbeNt)

107 Here's all the .45 you want: http://tinyurl.com/blqzof4

Posted by: DAvinci at April 07, 2013 09:52 AM (XDC0v)

108 The M and Ps I've been seeing on gunbroker are drifting down towards MSRP (at least for ORCs and Sporticals), and I've seen some Spike's for $900-$1,100.  I don't have the scratch for super fancy LaRues or LWRCs, and not enough experience to build my own.

Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at April 07, 2013 09:53 AM (aozUR)

109 JOHN Roll, sorry. Todd Roll was a guy who committed bank fraud against me 20 years ago

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 09:53 AM (p0uh1)

110 Uhm, Gabby, where was security?

Posted by: Luigi at April 07, 2013 09:54 AM (JeROe)

111 108 Is that used or new?  $900 for a Spike's is a pre-panic used (BUT NOT MUCH) price..

Posted by: DAvinci at April 07, 2013 09:55 AM (XDC0v)

112

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 01:53 PM (p0uh1)

 

Ah, thanks for the correction. I guess that's a good reason for the wrong name being memorable.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 07, 2013 09:55 AM (wbeNt)

113 Finally found some 10rd AR mags so I can dial in my scope using ALL of the bench rest, front and back.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 09:55 AM (4Mv1T)

114

Thank   you   Mark   Kelly!   You   make   me   look   sane!

Posted by: Lisa Nowak: Diaper Astronaut at April 07, 2013 09:55 AM (wIgpo)

115 Because the bill of rights has a little known clause: A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed* * unless it only takes 5 minutes and 36 seconds.

Posted by: Whatev at April 07, 2013 09:56 AM (A7Wh1)

116 Posted by: DAvinci at April 07, 2013 01:55 PM (XDC0v)

The $900 Spike's was new, but that dealer has since run out (he had about 10 at the start a week and a half ago).  There are some mid-length ones with a quad rail for $1,100 on the site, too.

Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at April 07, 2013 09:57 AM (aozUR)

117 @107

"The product is currently out of stock, current quantity is -3"

Cripes.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's award-winning solid gold diaphragm at April 07, 2013 09:57 AM (7xeJQ)

118

Midlength is my pref, and I'm starting to like the 18" alot now... hard to find these days but not for long...

Posted by: DAvinci at April 07, 2013 09:59 AM (XDC0v)

119 108 JOHN Roll, sorry.

Todd Roll was a guy who committed bank fraud against me 20 years ago
Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 01:53 PM (p0uh1)
At least it isn't Ted Rall.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 07, 2013 10:00 AM (FhsBk)

120
   Like I said, for now, the charcoal burners are looking pretty good.   Nothing like touching off on a nice damp day and hiding behind the cloud.

   Plus the muzzle flame at dusk is impressive.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 07, 2013 10:01 AM (SAMxH)

121 117  Not a big fan of the triangle front sight (tho I'll manage) and i try to avoid bayonet lugs just in case

Posted by: DAvinci at April 07, 2013 10:02 AM (XDC0v)

122 OT: Half in the Bag "Evil Dead" review up

http://redlettermedia.com/half-in-the-bag-evil-dead/

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's award-winning solid gold diaphragm at April 07, 2013 10:02 AM (7xeJQ)

123 Because I hadn't handled (fondled) a 1911 very much, and never fired one (grip safety? whazzat?) a few wks. ago I bought a Sig 1911-22 to kind of get familiar w/the design before I decided to go full bore. I'm primarily a revolver guy though I do have some nines. The .22 turned out to be a good get.

Posted by: BignJames at April 07, 2013 10:05 AM (H9MGI)

124
  Either my hands were designed for the 1911,or vice versa. Never have picked up another handgun that fit me like that thing does.  No alterations at all.  It just works.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 07, 2013 10:08 AM (SAMxH)

125 Nascar at Martinsville. They should build another short track somewhere. The economics of short tracks must not be as good for some reason since nobody has built a new one of Nascar in many decades. Though I guess Nascar might not want more than Bristol and Martinsville.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2013 10:08 AM (ZPrif)

126 There is a picture Weasel Zippers uses that makes giffords look like Kelly's ventriloquist dummy.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at April 07, 2013 10:08 AM (xacQH)

127 Again, they're all fired up about guns but apparently perfectly happy to leave homicidal insane people wandering on the street.

Posted by: zsasz at April 07, 2013 10:11 AM (MMC8r)

128 What's a good price for a new Ruger 10/22? Our local Gander Mountain has them for $299. It seems to me they were over a $100 cheaper before they started trying to ban guns.

Posted by: Bill R. at April 07, 2013 10:12 AM (QnRSM)

129 May 25 - hitting the casino June 7 - spend winnings at Dulles gun show Flawless plan.

Posted by: RWC at April 07, 2013 10:12 AM (Wl/Ht)

130 "my husband, Mark, took one just last month, and it took 5 minutes and 36 seconds. " Technology. How does it fucking work?!

Posted by: RWC at April 07, 2013 10:15 AM (Wl/Ht)

131 45 I thought killing a Federal Judge earned you a Federal noose? Posted by: Jean at April 07, 2013 01:23 PM (sv/s3) Piracy used to get you strung up on the yardarms before Obama. Now it gets you a free trip with luxury accommodations at Club Fed while awaiting trial. One reason I miss the good old days.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac missing the good old days at April 07, 2013 10:15 AM (Zd/NW)

132 Hobbits !!!

Posted by: John McCain at April 07, 2013 10:15 AM (Cs2tJ)

133 What's a good price for a new Ruger 10/22? Our local Gander Mountain has them for $299. It seems to me they wereover a $100 cheaper before they started trying to ban guns.

Posted by: Bill R. at April 07, 2013 02:12 PM (QnRSM)



If they actually have one in stock better jump on it if you need a .22.  But good luck finding ammo for it.

Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2013 10:16 AM (53z96)

134 That is exactly why I have guns..... Because of crazy people and... criminals and....... for lack of a better word 'evil doers' that is why I have guns plus I have fun shooting them IDPA USPSA 3 Gun Steel Challenge Tactical Rifle Civilian Marksmanship Program Silhouette, well this is sorta fun Trap Skeet Sporting Clays all are a great day at the range

Posted by: Jake in Idaho at April 07, 2013 10:16 AM (zzeVM)

135 Short tracks make me dizzy.

Posted by: eleven at April 07, 2013 10:16 AM (fsLdt)

136 One reason I miss the good old days.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac missing the good old days at April 07, 2013 02:15 PM (Zd/NW)



You can thank the BS LOST which was never ratified but which we follow all but one provision dealing with military ships.   You can thank RR for that.

Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2013 10:17 AM (53z96)

137 What's a good price for a new Ruger 10/22? Our local Gander Mountain has them for $299. It seems to me they wereover a $100 cheaper before they started trying to ban guns. Posted by: Bill R. at April 07, 2013 02:12 PM (QnRSM) locally a good price is $229 but nobody has one in stock

Posted by: Jake in Idaho at April 07, 2013 10:18 AM (zzeVM)

138 Two things. When I bought my Mossberg 500 Persuader shotgun from the local gun shop, I filled out the paperwork, showed my license and my CWP, paid for my purchase and walked out of the store. I didn't have to wait for them to call the NCIS for background check because with my CWP, I'd already had one.

Then we ordered a rifle online. We sent all the information to the local shop, fax number, purchase order number, ect., where it was coming from. When it came, the shop called me, I went down and filled out the paperwork, paid them $30.00 for their trouble and walked out with my gun.

Having a CWP as well as a driver's license really speeds up the process.

Posted by: Nobody knows the troubles I've seen at April 07, 2013 10:19 AM (1XRS7)

139 I thought killing a Federal Judge earned you a Federal noose? Not always. Woody Harelson's dad, Charles, is in a Texas prison for killing Judge Woods.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2013 10:20 AM (rghQr)

140 Jake- Thanks for the recommendation on the 1-5x Leupold. I will be thinking hard about that one.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 10:22 AM (4Mv1T)

141 Having a CWP as well as a driver's license really speeds up the process.

Posted by: Nobody knows the troubles I've seen at April 07, 2013 02:19 PM (1XRS7)

 

Here in Florida they FFL dealer still calls in a background check, even if you have a CWL.  However, with a CWL you don't have the three day wait.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 07, 2013 10:23 AM (YYyqq)

142 124 Nascar at Martinsville. They should build another short track somewhere. The economics of short tracks must not be as good for some reason since nobody has built a new one of Nascar in many decades. Though I guess Nascar might not want more than Bristol and Martinsville. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2013 02:08 PM (ZPrif) The mile and a half tracks can run Indy Car also, and that was the reason for building them. ISC, which is NASCAR, tried to build a 3/4 mile track in Staten Island, but the neighbors bitched so much about them turning a brownfield former industrial site into a race track and commerce center would just about ruin Staten Island. So they walked away and left the blighted property. I'm sure the hobos hanging out there are much better neighbors than having race fans come there one weekend a year. While I love Martinsville, and live an hour away, and have gone to about 25 races there, the track is dying. They barely get 40K people there for a race now, and the hotels in the area no longer sell out on race weekend.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the former MrCaniac at April 07, 2013 10:24 AM (Zd/NW)

143 Have any of you refinished a gun with Duracoat? From what I've seen on the 'net, it looks pretty straightforward.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at April 07, 2013 10:24 AM (JQuNB)

144 Maybe someone can explain why supply and demand has not caused ammo production to skyrocket? Regs? Startup costs? Seems like ammo is a growth industry in a world full of flat line economics.

Posted by: Beagle at April 07, 2013 10:25 AM (sOtz/)

145 142 Harris B,

I've had it done...the process is not a lot more onerous than parkerizing from what I've been told but it is a new procedure to learn...

I was gonna durakote my new FEG but the blue on it is so good I decided not to...

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 10:25 AM (LRFds)

146 +1 for the 1911. It just fits.

When I was researching a carry gun, I read about Springfield Armory's XDs 45acp. When a reviewer said it had the same grip angle as a 1911, I was pretty much sold, for my big mits anyway.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 10:26 AM (4Mv1T)

147 Jake- Thanks for the recommendation on the 1-5x Leupold. I will be thinking hard about that one. Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 02:22 PM (4Mv1T) It is a great scope if it fits your need. I've taken mine out to 900 yards for 3 gun it is awesome just depends if it has the magnification

Posted by: Jake in Idaho at April 07, 2013 10:26 AM (zzeVM)

148 Just saw the providence journal for this Sunday. The lead story is a gay Eagle Scout who lost his job as a Boy Scout camp councilor, allegedly for being gay. In the sidebar, the lede is sandy hook parents coming after my guns And below the fold, a nice feature on a crimmigrant saying now is the time to push for legalizing crimmigrants. They sure know how to pick the trifecta, those fucking commie assholes.

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 10:27 AM (p0uh1)

149 Again, they're all fired up about guns but apparently perfectly happy to leave homicidal insane people wandering on the street. They treat them with drugs that in some significant number of cases take a condition that only effects one person to a condition that effects many, many people. I don't think drugs are the answer. For anyone with a child with Asperger/Autism spectrum -- or someone you know, I would highly advise doing some research on John Robison, author of "Look Me In The Eye' and TMS (Transcrainial Magnetic Simulation) and Aspergers. There is hope, but it's not at the end of a prescription pad. It's a pretty amazing story.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at April 07, 2013 10:28 AM (feFL6)

150 They are not going to build any more NASCAR tracks of any kind.  They already have a race every weekend of the year.  Darlington used to have two races a year but NASCAR took one of them away so they could give that weekend to a track in CA that had a bigger draw.

Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2013 10:28 AM (53z96)

151 Jake- 900yds?? Wow. I bought my first two scopes with my cruddy vision. After getting the shootin' eye fixed last week, I think I can drop back to 1-5X. I had a 1-4x and liked it but wanted more range for bad vision, and bought a 3-12X. I like the wider field of view with the lower magnification, now that I can see.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 10:29 AM (4Mv1T)

152 I was gonna durakote my new FEG but the blue on it is so good I decided not to... Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 02:25 PM (LRFds) All I need to do is one barrel on a Mossberg 500--nothing very intricate.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at April 07, 2013 10:30 AM (JQuNB)

153 Here in Florida the FFL dealer still calls in a background check, even if you have a CWL. However, with a CWL you don't have the three day wait.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 07, 2013 02:23 PM (YYyqq)

Is that for any gun, rifle, shotgun or pistol...or just for hand guns? All my hand guns are off the record, so to speak, so I'm not sure how my state, SC does it, although my permit is good in Florida.

Posted by: Nobody knows the troubles I've seen at April 07, 2013 10:30 AM (1XRS7)

154 Wrestlemania tonight. Anybody else watching?

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 10:30 AM (p0uh1)

155 Maybe someone can explain why supply and demand has not caused ammo production to skyrocket?

Regs? Startup costs? Seems like ammo is a growth industry in a world full of flat line economics.

Posted by: Beagle at April 07, 2013 02:25 PM (sOtz/)


It has skyrocketed.  The factories are running lines 24/7 now where as they used to run 8/5.  People are buying it up faster than they can make it.  Thank Obama and the Dems for that.

Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2013 10:31 AM (53z96)

156 I'm sitting here, typing away, when I hear a little girl screaming at the top of her lungs. Then, a second little girl started screaming. Mixed in with the screams is the bark of a dog. I haul ass out of the house and across my yard to find a little girl standing on the street corner, about 100' away, with a big dog next to her barking his ass off at her. So, she's screaming and her little sister, not far away, in her own yard, is screaming in terror. I start drawing attention to myself, screaming "bad dog!", and waving my arms and clapping my hands. Yelling "NO!". The dog looks confused and turns to bark at me. Back and forth between me and the little girl. I yell for her NOT to run. In the meantime, I am calculating in my head how fast I can get to my gun if he runs at me or turns on the little girl. Nearby, a man is mowing his lawn and doesn't even turn off the mower to assist. Finally, the dog turns away and the little girl, still terrified, starts slowly walking away until she got into her own yard and made a mad dash for the door. Finally, with the girl out of danger, the mom meets her at the door and yells, "What are you screaming about?!" I wanted to beat her ass. I still do.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 07, 2013 10:31 AM (piMMO)

157 So what do people who really do have mntal illness do? Just kill themselves to get out of the way?

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 07, 2013 10:31 AM (WD0KF)

158 Barb, sometimes we muddle through.

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 10:33 AM (p0uh1)

159 >> Maybe someone can explain why supply and demand has not caused ammo production to skyrocket? Some good commentary here: http://goo.gl/PYtnX

Posted by: Andy at April 07, 2013 10:34 AM (OZPoa)

160 @148 Amazing how many shooters are on several psycoactive drugs prescribed for them. But inquiring if that might be a factor in their behavior makes you a crank. Even Chantix (sp?) mentions homicidal thoughts as a side effect on TV. But don't read anything into that.

Posted by: Beagle at April 07, 2013 10:34 AM (sOtz/)

161 >>>I wanted to beat her ass.

I still do.

I used to get chased home by the neighbor dogs daily when I was a little kid. Who knows how people think. That little girl will not trust dogs for a long time. Or her mother for that matter. Too bad.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 10:34 AM (4Mv1T)

162 152 Here in Florida the FFL dealer still calls in a
background check, even if you have a CWL. However, with a CWL you don't
have the three day wait.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 07, 2013 02:23 PM (YYyqq)
Is that for any gun, rifle, shotgun or pistol...or just for hand guns? All my hand guns are off the record, so to speak, so I'm not sure how my state, SC does it, although my permit is good in Florida.

Posted by: Nobody knows the troubles I've seen at April 07, 2013 02:30 PM (1XRS7)

 

Same process for rifle and pistol, not sure about a shotgun.  Know you didn't ask, but I thought about flying to a state (on business) with a reciprocal agreement a pick up a handgun a couple of years ago.  Did some research and found it was not allowed.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 07, 2013 10:37 AM (YYyqq)

163 58 Bought my first rifle yesterday - a SIG M400. It was a "fuck I'm glad I moved to NH and I'm not living in Massachusetts anymore" present to myself.

-----------

Out-fucking-standing!

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 07, 2013 10:37 AM (celt+)

164 I bought my first two scopes with my cruddy vision. After getting the shootin' eye fixed last week, I think I can drop back to 1-5X. I had a 1-4x and liked it but wanted more range for bad vision, and bought a 3-12X. I like the wider field of view with the lower magnification, now that I can see. Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 02:29 PM (4Mv1T) It all really depends on what you want to do with it

Posted by: Jake in Idaho at April 07, 2013 10:38 AM (zzeVM)

165 So what do people who really do have mntal illness do?

Run for congress as Democrats

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 07, 2013 10:38 AM (/gHaE)

166 For anyone with a child with Asperger/Autism spectrum -- or someone you know, I would highly advise doing some research on John Robison, author of "Look Me In The Eye' and TMS (Transcrainial Magnetic Simulation) and Aspergers. There is hope, but it's not at the end of a prescription pad.

It's a pretty amazing story.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 07, 2013 02:28 PM (feFL6)

 

Might want to take a look at the Sensory Belt.  It really works.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 07, 2013 10:38 AM (YYyqq)

167 Woo hoo. 'Big Trouble in Little China' for free on fios.

Posted by: RWC at April 07, 2013 10:39 AM (Wl/Ht)

168 "143 Maybe someone can explain why supply and demand has not caused ammo production to skyrocket?

Regs? Startup costs? Seems like ammo is a growth industry in a world full of flat line economics."

-----------------

Because chasing a bubble is a sure path to bankruptcy.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 07, 2013 10:39 AM (celt+)

169 Did some research and found it was not allowed. Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 07, 2013 02:37 PM (YYyqq) yep, that is Gun Control Act of 1968 FYI, you can't sell any firearm to a resident of another state without going through a FFL either

Posted by: Jake in Idaho at April 07, 2013 10:39 AM (zzeVM)

170 Ahhhhh....

Home from DC!

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 07, 2013 10:40 AM (0IhFx)

171 Because chasing a bubble is a sure path to bankruptcy. *** yep. You plan for the norm and adapt to the lean and high times. You don't expend capital for the high times.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 07, 2013 10:41 AM (piMMO)

172 ""In the sidebar, the lede is sandy hook parents coming after my guns ""


You know, I wasn't going to say anything, but fuck it. All I have to say is fuck these parents. So your kid died, its tragic, it happened, and unarmed people get killed every day by fucking assholes. Whats more important is that probably no less than 750,000  servicemen died over the last 200+ years in the hell holes around the world, including some of my own family, to protect and defend the constitution. Your kid isn't worth more than those dudes, you don't get to render their sacrifice meaningless. You bought into the liberal bullshit of gun free school zones, and you lost, and now you're gonna reward them by using your fucking dead kids to allow these commie pricks to grandstand.

Really, fuck you

Posted by: Berserker at April 07, 2013 10:41 AM (FMbng)

173 Even Chantix (sp?) mentions homicidal thoughts as a side effect on TV. But don't read anything into that. I sometimes listen to the non-stop recitation of side effects on a tv commercial then recite them to my wife, then ask 'Why in the hell would someone take a drug where 'sudden death' was the possible side effect of a heartburn medication?'. Take a couple 'Tums' for crying out loud. Or cut the 'weapons grade' peppers from the diet.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at April 07, 2013 10:41 AM (feFL6)

174 out for now

Posted by: Jake in Idaho at April 07, 2013 10:42 AM (zzeVM)

175 Has anyone considered, if universal background checks become law, privacy issues. It's bad enough giving date and place of birth, ID numbers, SSAN, etc. to a licensed dealer. Under this stroke of genius, you give it up to a complete stranger, who calls it in, gets approval, shakes your hand as you're leaving with your gun, and applies for a couple of credit cards.

Posted by: Bill at April 07, 2013 10:42 AM (xFYVW)

176 Wrestlemania baby! McMahon and Bruno Sammartino buried the hatchet. Bob Backlund's Hall of Fame speech was apparently nutso crazy. Either he did it in character or he's lost his mind. Good question is whether the Macho Man will ever be inducted. The rumors about why McMahon hates him, even after death, are pretty decent reasons for a personal vendetta.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2013 10:52 AM (ZPrif)

177 Thank you for that Berserker. I agree. Dead children do not confer higher moral authority.

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 10:53 AM (I2LwF)

178 Of course, Sammartino had some good reasons why he cut off all contact with WWE for several decades. But time heals all wounds apparently.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2013 10:53 AM (ZPrif)

179 I like wrestling. It's a great soap opera. I'm kind of tired of it right now, but Mrs. North loves it and this is the first time my son is allowed to stay up and watch, so it's going to be an awesome night.

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 10:54 AM (I2LwF)

180 In Colorado, even the dogs get high now Study shows dogs ingesting marijuana on rise http://is.gd/zciPqf

Posted by: The legendary Flap Maxwell at April 07, 2013 10:55 AM (8sCoq)

181 Has anyone considered, if universal background checks become law, privacy issues.

That, and its use as a cheap employment screening tool by potential employers. 

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 07, 2013 10:55 AM (/gHaE)

182 Bruno Sammartino was the greatest champion of any promotion of all time. Glad to see him come home.

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 10:56 AM (I2LwF)

183 @167 Chasing bubbles is the American Dream 2.0. Not that I would attempt an ammo company. But if I was a just retired VP of an ammo company or young expert I might. This bubble has some legs.

Posted by: Beagle at April 07, 2013 10:56 AM (sOtz/)

184 WWE is fun. And stupid. And the more stupid it is the more fun it is.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2013 10:57 AM (ZPrif)

185 Under this stroke of genius, you give it up to a complete stranger, who calls it in, gets approval, shakes your hand as you're leaving with your gun, and applies for a couple of credit cards. Well you can sign up for 'protection' at one of those places that stores your name and SS number in its database to 'protect' you. Yeah, I never had any experience with the kind of damage that even one disgruntled employee can do. /sarc I honestly wonder, seeing almost daily reports of 'hacking*' just how much safer you can be by spending money and giving another person your personal data. I think not much, and maybe even less safe. * 'Hacking' being a catch-all phrase that the MSM uses. Like descriptions of guns, they never get it right.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at April 07, 2013 10:58 AM (feFL6)

186 This just in: John Fresolo is still a state rep

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 10:58 AM (I2LwF)

187 I used to prefer TNA, a couple of years ago. They had a lot of younger, smaller guys. They had a hexagonal ring. They had more matches in two hours than the WWE had in four hours of weekly programming. Not so much anymore.

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 10:59 AM (I2LwF)

188

Posted by: Berserker at April 07, 2013 02:41 PM (FMbng)

 

Reverend!

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2013 11:02 AM (GGu/E)

189 During the Dark DaysTM of the Evil Bush RegimeTM, Leftists used to say things like "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" (a quote from a Racist, Sexist, Homo-phobic Dead White Male) basically implying "Live Free or Die," while implying that Bush was establishing a 1984-style totalitarian society. Funny. Later.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2013 11:04 AM (wtW72)

190 Bit of a youth movement tonight at WM. Two guys actually will have their debut matches tonight, Big E Langston and Fandango. Lot of pressure to have your first official match (outside of NXT, WWE's minor league in Florida) at WM. Huge pressure. The Fandango dude is such an over-the-top stupid gimmick that it's fun. A flamboyantly macho ballroom dancer. So far he's refused to fight for months cause everybody mispronounces his name. So now he actually have a match with Jericho - who's a legend at this point. Big E Langston is a comically over-muscled black guy enforcer. He gets a tag team match with Dolph Ziggler vs Kane and Daniel Bryan. And Kane is an impressive dude and a big right-wing libertarian type guy. For a while he spoke out about his politics, but then he went back under his mask. Big draw is the Rock and Cena. But I'm more curious to see how the new guys do. And Undertaker vs Punk. Undertaker is old and broken down and hasn't wrestled since last years WM. Curious to see what shape he's in.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2013 11:04 AM (ZPrif)

191  so IsraeliElite hackers are now fighting back and taking sites down in multiple countries in response  for Anonymous's hackers taking down Israeli sites.
 althogu Israeli elite hackers did take a break for the sabbath


nice.

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2013 11:05 AM (nqBYe)

192 Triple H is back tonight to face the boring Brock Lesnar. Undertaker returns to face CM Punk. The Shield makes their Wrestlemania debut, as does Fandango-- both are worthless wastes of time. The Rock versus Cena match ought to be the match of the night. Alberto del Rio's turn as a face is weird, and he's defending the Heavyweigt strap against the even weirder tea party villain Jack Swagger. I honestly don't see how they fill three hours.

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 11:06 AM (I2LwF)

193 Haha you like the fandango gimmick and I hate it! I guess there's something for everyone

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 11:08 AM (I2LwF)

194 Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Sunday expressed opposition to possible GOP efforts to filibuster a Senate gun-control measure, saying he did not “understand” the move to block debate.

Posted by: Drip, drip, drip at April 07, 2013 11:08 AM (mKNJE)

195 Last time I saw wrasslin' was when my "then" girlfriend was teaching one of Nature Boy's kids in elementary school. Flair was always hitting on her. Thankfully I didn't have to defend her honor, and stuff.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 11:09 AM (4Mv1T)

196 TNA moved away from that when Hogan and Bischoff took over behind the scenes, I think. Then it became WWE-lite -- just with older guys or guys WWE had fired. I don't think TNA strategy shift to using more well-known ex-WWE guys helped. They seem to be in survival mode. They just cut their PPVs from 12 a year (one a month) to only 4. NXT is interesting to watch since it's young guys trying to move up to the the WWE big leagues.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2013 11:09 AM (ZPrif)

197 >> Andy, can you pimp the Minuteman Project in your gun thread header? The anti-illegal immigration one? Or do you mean Project Appleseed (that I keep meaning to add)?

Posted by: Andy at April 07, 2013 11:10 AM (OZPoa)

198 so IsraeliElite hackers are now fighting back and taking sites down in multiple countries in response for Anonymous's hackers taking down Israeli sites. althogu Israeli elite hackers did take a break for the sabbath nice. *** They'e goign farther than that. Israeli's are raiding and arresting the hackers.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 07, 2013 11:11 AM (piMMO)

199 well... obviously... those they can get to.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 07, 2013 11:11 AM (piMMO)

200 Big E Rection looks like Cleveland from family guy. If anybody can drag a 55-year-old Undertaker through a match, it's CM Punk. I hate him for hauling off and punching a fan, but he is as good at telling a story in the match as anyone.

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 11:11 AM (I2LwF)

201 Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Sunday expressed opposition to possible GOP efforts to filibuster a Senate gun-control measure, saying he did
not “understand” the move to block debate.

-----------------




What is wrong with that man?

Posted by: mama winger at April 07, 2013 11:11 AM (P6QsQ)

202 ...saying he did not “understand” the move to block debate...

McLame needed to retire about 20 years ago.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 07, 2013 11:12 AM (/gHaE)

203

>>>Flair was always hitting on her

 

You can't let her  get in a Hot Tub with Ric Flair!

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2013 11:12 AM (GGu/E)

204 Yeah, I like the Fandango bit. It's stupid. But that's why I like it. I saw the guy Johnny Curtis in NXT. I think he's talented. He's been with WWE's developmental territories for years and years. He finally gets his shot on the main roster and ... he got handed this insanely stupid gimmick. But he's making it work, he's going all in. The crowd hates it. Boos him like crazy. But he's a bad guy. His job is to get the crowd to hate him. So I think he's doing a good job -- which is to make people hate him.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2013 11:13 AM (ZPrif)

205 They'e goign farther than that. Israeli's are raiding and arresting the hackers.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 07, 2013 03:11 PM (piMMO),


many are in distant lands,  but being found by the Israeli hackers and shutting Them down.

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2013 11:14 AM (nqBYe)

206 they even have the phone number of onein indonsia

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2013 11:15 AM (nqBYe)

207 heh

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2013 11:15 AM (nqBYe)

208 I am not a Jew, but I still think the Jews are God's chosen, and woe be unto him who gets on the wrong side of the Chosen.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 11:16 AM (4Mv1T)

209 Punk is talented. Ziggler is the best seller. Although taking crazy bumps like he does can't be good for his career longevity. Big E's crazy musciled physique is impressive, but he kinda looks retarded in the face. He looks like a muscle-bound Carlton from Fresh Prince. Which takes a lot away from his intimidation factor. He's kinda obviously the replacement for Mark Henry who's old and injured and likely near retirement -- big, scary giant muscled black dude.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2013 11:18 AM (ZPrif)

210 The thing that really frosts my shorts about Giffords is the implication that "Universal Background Checks" would have made some difference in her case or another mass shooting. All the ones in recent memory - Sandy Hook, Aurora, Virginia Tech, and, of course, Giffords all involved NICS guns. And other than Sandy Hook, the bugfuck crazy shooters actually passed the NICS check themselves. How putting every private sale through the same system that didn't prevent any of these crimes is supposed to prevent similar events in the future is just beyond me.

Posted by: Andy at April 07, 2013 11:18 AM (OZPoa)

211 sirian govt web. bam
hizbullah website . bam

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2013 11:19 AM (nqBYe)

212 Curtis won NXT either last year or the year before. I think two years ago. He had one match-- I think he jobbed to Mark Henry.

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 11:19 AM (I2LwF)

213 raiding and arresting the hackers.

Some of the more pernicious ones need to be just disappeared without a trace, or fall victim to a tragic random street mugging.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 07, 2013 11:19 AM (/gHaE)

214 200 Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Sunday expressed opposition to possible GOP efforts to filibuster a Senate gun-control measure, saying he did not “understand” the move to block debate. ----------------- What is wrong with that man? Posted by: mama winger at April 07, 2013 03:11 PM (P6QsQ) Now we know where Meggy gets her intellect.

Posted by: BignJames at April 07, 2013 11:20 AM (H9MGI)

215
many are in distant lands, but being found by the Israeli hackers and shutting Them down.

I think a large number of these anonymous hackers are just kids, OWS'ers, and FSA types that are using leet hacker tools(TM), that they've found on the internet. They're the useful idiots....the ones that are caught, prosecuted, and jailed. Sucks, as they say, to be them.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 07, 2013 11:21 AM (0IhFx)

216 My friends you don't have to be afraid of giving up your constitutionally guaranteed privileges. Privileges are just that... something that can be taken from the many, based on the actions of a few. I am sure we can all agree that I need protection, while I don't agree that you should be able to protect yourself. It's a reasonable argument you wacko-birds just don't understand.

Posted by: Johnny McCain [/i] at April 07, 2013 11:22 AM (feFL6)

217 Christians are trapped inside a Coptic Orthodox church in Egypt.  Muslims are bombarding them with Molotov cocktails and tear gas.  Security forces  are standing back and letting the attacks continue.


Story at WZ

Posted by: mama winger at April 07, 2013 11:22 AM (P6QsQ)

218 Oh, I also like Damien Sandow. Charismatic dude. Insults the crowd will. Of course, my reactions are part of WWE's problem. People like me tend to like the bad guys more than the good guys. The good guys are boring. So when somebody comes out with an interesting twist on being the bad guys and pissing off the crowd -- it's interesting. I thought Del Rio was interesting when he was the bad guy arrogant Mexican aristocrat. But then they turned him face and now he's a boring good guy. It's really hard to make the good guys interesting and not boring nowadays.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2013 11:24 AM (ZPrif)

219 Christians are trapped inside a Coptic Orthodox church in Egypt. Muslims are bombarding them with Molotov cocktails and tear gas. Security forces are standing back and letting the attacks continue. Alex, I'd like 'days that end with 'y' for 1,000'

Posted by: Sean Connery [/i] at April 07, 2013 11:24 AM (feFL6)

220 Sticky Wicket

Neidermyer  had mida **** (forgot name)something (*Anonymous* reasons for hack attack)

same old blood libel reasons given from decades past.
yes those affiliated are useful dopes and can't tell when they are being fed propaganda , hell it came right from days of old. Or mimicking imadinnerjackeyt verbatim.

I had watched anonymous off and on to see where they were going, They had espoused their sympathies with worlds citizens being put in chains as days of old.
Yet instead of attacking syria, iran, saudi arabia, russia, china , etc  those that have killed Millions, they go for Israel.

so  I now wonder who is really behind anonymous  and the paid propaganda.

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2013 11:26 AM (nqBYe)

221 If the Coptics just give up a little more land, there will be peace.

Posted by: Our Fucking State Department at April 07, 2013 11:26 AM (p0uh1)

222 How putting every private sale through the same system that didn't prevent any of these crimes is supposed to prevent similar events in the future is just beyond me.

Posted by: Andy at April 07, 2013 03:18 PM (OZPoa)


They know it will not prevent anything.  This is just them continuing their trend of incrementally killing the second amendment.


I still say the Red States should make it a felony to advocate for or vote for any law that "infringes" on the right to keep and bear arms.

Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2013 11:26 AM (53z96)

223 Sandow is the best

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 11:27 AM (p0uh1)

224

Odd that Gabby never mentioned that the first time her husband tried to buy that Sig Sauer 1911, he was turned down because he was too damn stupid to know that he couldn't buy a hand gun in Arizona and take immediate possession of it since he was not a resident.  He tried to present his Texas driver's license as I.D.  According to Diamondback Police Supply, Kelly returned two weeks later with an Arizona I.D.

How big a crook is Kelly?  Well, let's just say that first he tries to buy a handgun in Arizona with a Texas driver's license (he could do that, but the gun would have had to be shipped to a FFL in Texas for him to take possession of it); he claims a resident homestead tax exemption on his home in Texas, and claims the same exemption on his new tony $1.4 million home in Tucson; he is a registered Texas voter (is he also registered to vote in Arizona?) and it would be interesting to know if he voted in both states last November.

Kelly's a slug that needs to crawl back into his rocket ship and fired off into space never to return.

Posted by: zane at April 07, 2013 11:27 AM (vQe4y)

225 so I now wonder who is really behind anonymous and the paid propaganda.

------------------




All evil meets three times a day at JewHate Junction.

Posted by: mama winger at April 07, 2013 11:27 AM (P6QsQ)

226 And other than Sandy Hook, the bugfuck crazy shooters actually passed the NICS check themselves. If they don't do anything to flag crazy people, how is a background check going to do anything?

Posted by: zsasz at April 07, 2013 11:27 AM (MMC8r)

227 mama winger it seems islamist MB feels free to now finish  the job in Egypt.

wonder if Mr Rev Wright, or Obama  and his church will issue a statement of defence for the coptics?

yeah  i know.


Posted by: willow at April 07, 2013 11:28 AM (nqBYe)

228 @216 The media will have to explain how all the Christians were driven out of the Middle East, and murdered, without them noticing.

Posted by: Beagle at April 07, 2013 11:29 AM (sOtz/)

229 The media will have to explain how all the Christians were driven out of the Middle East, and murdered, without them noticing.

Posted by: Beagle at April 07, 2013 03:29 PM (sOtz/)


or not

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2013 11:30 AM (nqBYe)

230 Agreed. Sandow is great. Silence! Great contrast of intellectual snob with vicious in-ring style. The giant manly beard with the fruity pink tights. But mainly he's just good on the mic. The fun of wrestling is being insulted by the bad guys in an entertaining way. Cody Rhodes (Dusty's son), by contrast, is far less interesting. He's trying to do something similar but his voice is just boring.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2013 11:31 AM (ZPrif)

231

my understanding from the media is that there aren't any Christians in the Middle East, right, so therefore they don't have to report on atrocities against them. And if there is violence going on, for example between the Buddhists and the Muslims then the Muslims are the victims, they are being randomly attacked by other religious groups for no good reason.

 

 

Can I get a job as a dead media journalist now?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 07, 2013 11:32 AM (RZ8pf)

232 The media will have to explain how all the Christians were driven out of the Middle East, and murdered, without them noticing.

-----------

First you designate them to be terrorists and extremists.  See: Army, US

Then you publish news and broadcast stories that identify them as H8trz.

Then you strip them of their rights to defend themselves.

Then you make the argument that killing them is actually for the Greater Good.

Easy Peasy.


Oh.  You said "Middle East".  I was thinking more "Midwest."

Posted by: mama winger at April 07, 2013 11:34 AM (P6QsQ)

233 Cody has a lisp. His Dashing act was pretty good. He worked well with Bob Holly. He's not the greatest heel, honestly, but he has some synergy with Sandow, and that works. When the ginned up the girl fight angle I got bored. Women can't wrestle, with only a very few exceptions.

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 11:35 AM (p0uh1)

234 my understanding from the media is that there aren't any Christians in the Middle East, The Christians are tresspassing in the land Muslims have held for over 5000 years. The Muslims were there first, so the Christians are at fault.

Posted by: Illiterate but Politically Correct Journalist at April 07, 2013 11:35 AM (MMC8r)

235 Neidermyer had mida **** (forgot name)something (*Anonymous* reasons for hack attack) *** They've since gone from 'defaced' to full blown DOS attack on that site, so the message is gone but, yeah, nutty as a fruitcake.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 07, 2013 11:36 AM (piMMO)

236 Can I get a job as a dead media journalist now?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 07, 2013 03:32 PM (RZ8pf)


Hired!

Posted by: NYT's at April 07, 2013 11:37 AM (nqBYe)

237 I keep expecting WWE to try to crack the China market and add a Chinese wrestler. They always have a Japanese guy, but never Chinese. Closest in recent times was Jimmy Wang Yang -- played a Chinese redneck gimmick. In real life the guy is half-Korean. Pretty sure he runs a pest control business in Ohio these days.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2013 11:37 AM (ZPrif)

238 Every land that a Muslim has ever tread is Muslim land. Invaders need to be expelled.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 07, 2013 11:40 AM (AC0lD)

239 The lisp hurts. Same with Swagger. Why they gave a guy with that bad a lisp a name with an S is a mystery. Lisps aren't intimidating.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2013 11:40 AM (ZPrif)

240 @228 willow I was thinking for the inevitable "last" and "no more" stories in the future, like they did for Jews in those countries. Something like "numbers dwindled" will euphemistically mask the Islamic supremacist jihad which destroyed them over time, and sharia which made the second-class citizens in their homelands.

Posted by: Beagle at April 07, 2013 11:41 AM (sOtz/)

241 My friends, with your attention to remembering the details of the Constitution, you remind me of the characters in Fahrenheit 451, walking through an empty forest, attempting to remember the contents of a book by memory, while the snow slowly falls and winter approaches. Wacko birds.

Posted by: Johnny McCain [/i] at April 07, 2013 11:42 AM (feFL6)

242 58 Bought my first rifle yesterday - a SIG M400. It was a "fuck I'm glad I moved to NH and I'm not living in Massachusetts anymore" present to myself. Please just remember why you moved up here, too many of you Massholes have moved up here and tried , and too a great extent succeeded, into making NH into the same shithole you left

Posted by: NativeNH at April 07, 2013 11:44 AM (tYjib)

243 Sticky wicket, I keep meaning to say welcome home

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 11:47 AM (p0uh1)

244

Wow, what the heck is it with web pages the last week or so, I keep getting the "IE has modified this page to prevent cross-scripting" message when I refresh this page. And on Twitchy it is constantly "not responding" these days. I barely go to Breitbart anymore because my security software boots me from it constantly because of vulnerabilities.

 

Even sites like my local news are failing on a regular basis now. Has the Internet reached a critical mass of viruses and DDoS attacks?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 07, 2013 11:48 AM (RZ8pf)

245 Interesting DA revolver, because aside from being DA, the features all look like a SA revolver, even the extraction system. Cool and weird at the same time. Question: Is there such thing as a SA revolver that has a flip out cylinder, like in a standard DA revolver? Don't know why there would be, but who knows?

Posted by: jbarntt at April 07, 2013 11:48 AM (UNFot)

246 I liked jimmy yang wang. He looked like a normal guy with a normal physique. He was funny. He could do a backflip off the turnbuckle on the run. Way better than yoshi tatsu

Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 11:48 AM (p0uh1)

247 so I now wonder who is really behind anonymous and the paid propaganda. Posted by: willow at April 07, 2013 03:26 PM (nqBYe) I haven't seen evidence that they're centralized, but I've seen evidence that they're insular, isolated, ignorant, public-school-educated North Americans and Europeans who live in an "alternative media" (Prison Planet, Alex Jones and George Noory) fueled delusional alternate world. Like Wikileaks, who looked at the terror and horror in the world, slavery in Africa by Africans and Arabs, mass murder in Asia and the Middle East, and blamed the US and its allies, the people who do the most to alleviate pain in the world (obviously nothing is *enough*, there will always be pain). Because Daddy isn't perfect, therefore they hate Daddy.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 07, 2013 11:48 AM (bxiXv)

248

Posted by: zane at April 07, 2013 03:27 PM (vQe4y)

 

In Montana this would be considered a crime. 

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2013 11:51 AM (GGu/E)

249 Even sites like my local news are failing on a regular basis now. Has the Internet reached a critical mass of viruses and DDoS attacks?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle

Any chance that it's your machine?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 07, 2013 11:52 AM (mN8D3)

250 Question: Is there such thing as a SA revolver that has a flip out cylinder, like in a standard DA revolver? Don't know why there would be, but who knows? Posted by: jbarntt at April 07, 2013 03:48 PM (UNFot) I don't know of any, but then that's not my area. Most SA guns are historical recreations, not "practical shooters" in that sense (they work fine, but they're not generally modernized). Many SA revolvers are designed so that you can quickly remove and replace the cylinder - but that's an awfully expensive speed-loader. The original SA revolvers were designed for non-metallic black-powder shooting, and there's no need to rotate the chamber out for that.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 07, 2013 11:52 AM (bxiXv)

251 I've been getting the same cross-script message for days.

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2013 11:53 AM (GGu/E)

252 Wow, what the heck is it with web pages the last week or so, I keep getting the "IE has modified this page to prevent cross-scripting" message when I refresh this page. And on Twitchy it is constantly "not responding" these days. I barely go to Breitbart anymore because my security software boots me from it constantly because of vulnerabilities. Even sites like my local news are failing on a regular basis now. Has the Internet reached a critical mass of viruses and DDoS attacks? *** As much as I despise Google, I swallowed my pride and now use Chrome. I still hate Google, but I love how well Chrome works.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 07, 2013 11:53 AM (piMMO)

253 Question: Is there such thing as a SA revolver that has a flip out cylinder, like in a standard DA revolver? I thought some of the old S&W's of the peacemaker era were top break.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2013 11:54 AM (rghQr)

254 yeah, james yun (jimmy yang wang) is a talented guy. He wrestled all over --WCW, Japan, WWE, ROH. But he's small - 5'9. And he's an American. WWE prefers bigger guys who are bilingual. Tatsu is 6'1 - not exactly big by WWE standards. But he's native Japanese. So he can help market in Japan. WWE loves Del Rio being Mexican born and able to do media in Spanish and English. I keep expecting WWE to hire some young kid just out of those Chinese acrobat schools -- like the kind Jackie Chan went to. They tend to be small, but are amazing athletes. If you can master Chinese acrobatics you can master pro wrestling. Compare the success of Del Rio to the failure of Sin Cara. Huge in Mexico but he's never learned English. That's just lazy. Probably cost him millions by not being able to do promos in English.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2013 11:55 AM (ZPrif)

255 Speaking of daddy not doing enough, some op-eds are very upset the Syrian war seems to benefit the US so they are arguing for us to do more. Get between HAMAS and Hizballah with our precious sons and daughters and (no) money? Crazy. Arm the thirty secular small d democrats and hope for the best.

Posted by: Beagle at April 07, 2013 11:56 AM (sOtz/)

256 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at April 07, 2013 03:48 PM (bxiXv)

yes i've seen those affiliates previously mentioned.

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2013 11:57 AM (nqBYe)

257 Metallic ammunition production in the US doubled from Jan 2012 to Jan 2013. You think you have problems, many competitive shooters (like IPSC) shoot 15k-30k rounds *per month*. I don't actually know what this has done to competitors, I haven't been keeping up with that news. Many of them had a pretty big stock to start with, but powder and primers are obviously not re-usable and even low-pressure loads wear out brass in less than 10-12 firings. While IPSC is not a Po Boy's game, everyone has a limit.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 07, 2013 11:58 AM (bxiXv)

258 251. You're not viewing enough pron (There is no such thing as too much pron)

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 07, 2013 11:59 AM (9TME+)

259
Sticky wicket, I keep meaning to say welcome home

Thanks, Truman. It's great to be home again! My car has to spend some time in the shop....a bearing is going out, brakes need some work, and it seems to be running a little hot, so I'll get to stay home for about two weeks. Do some laundry, drink some beer, spend time with my wife, drink some beer, play with the kids, drink some beer, hit the 'honey do' list, (which is getting really long), take my son and FUTURE DAUGHTER IN LAW out to dinner, then pack everything up, and head back to DC, and try to avoid getting a Ford F-550 duelie stuck in the mud....unlike last time.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 07, 2013 12:01 PM (0IhFx)

260 Gabby Giffords wrote, "Those people — criminals, or people suffering from mental illness, like the young man who shot me — can buy as many guns as they want on the Internet or at a gun show, no questions asked."

Gabby Giffords lied. Criminals cannot buy 'as many guns as the want on the Internet or at a gun show, no questions asked.' As many guns as they want, no questions asked?

She lied. It bears repeating.

Posted by: troyriser at April 07, 2013 12:02 PM (ptcFO)

261 WWE's strategy is mainly to grow internationally. They seem to have given up growing domestically. Or at least they aren't relying on that. Their plan is more about getting a niche audience in every country. Rather than trying to grow from 5% to 10% in the US, their strategy is to get that 5% in China and India and Brazil and Russia, etc, etc. Right now WWE is focused on totally dominating the Mexican market. Mexico and Japan are the only countries that have high-level home grown wrestling promotions. And if Mexico ever got serious investment, they could challenge WWE for dominance throughout Latin America. WWE has the advantage if production values, but the Mexican promotions have the advantage that all their wrestlers speak Spanish. Helpful in Latin America. WWE wants to make sure that doesn't happen. In the last decade they've taken over the Mexican market, beating the Mexicans shows in TV ratings in Mexico. When there's a big local start, like Del Rio or Sin Cara, WWE hires them away. WWE has had less success in Japan even though they've been trying for decades. Japanese inherent xenophobia always wins, though. Japanese just prefer watching other Japanese.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2013 12:03 PM (ZPrif)

262 Oh, and to a very old topic, I have heard nothing bad about Spike's Tactical rifles, and I use their T2 buffers in my rifles (vay vay good). It's an encapsulated tungsten powder buffer (instead of solid weights) that seems to compensate for varying recoil impulses from different ammo a little better than the solid weights. The greatest benefit is to carbines, SBRs and full-auto, though they work better in every application (for which the weight is appropriate). I'm chuffed about these - it's a "why didn't anyone try this idea before?" product.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 07, 2013 12:04 PM (bxiXv)

263 Democrats lie? O.O <----- my shocked face

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 07, 2013 12:06 PM (9TME+)

264 Had a gun show in Jackson, MS this weekend.  Did not even bother to go because my expectations were of more high prices.

So did anyone go and find out if my expectations were fully met?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 07, 2013 12:07 PM (Fzo3y)

265 Bought my first rifle yesterday - a SIG M400. It was a "fuck I'm glad I moved to NH and I'm not living in Massachusetts anymore" present to myself.

Can't wait to try it out.

Posted by: Gaff at April 07, 2013 01:29 PM (iV8i3)


Wow. That's some first rifle. Color me green with envy.

Posted by: troyriser at April 07, 2013 12:07 PM (ptcFO)

266 Oh, PS purportedly tonight's "60 Minutes" will be another MFM hit piece on gun owners. I remember watching that show when I was a little kid. Oddly, one of those experiences that helped me realize these MFM assholes were a pack of liars.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 07, 2013 12:09 PM (bxiXv)

267 Comment from the twitchy article.... "Leftist Claptrappery"

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at April 07, 2013 12:10 PM (MhA4j)

268 Schrödinger's cat @ 148 - Thanks for the book recommendation. You might have given me help with my son.

Posted by: MathMom at April 07, 2013 12:10 PM (ODIOT)

269 The Sig M400 was my first AR-15 as well. You will love the thing. Then again, I am partial to all kinds of Sigs. But that M400 was accurate out of the box, shoots like a dream and is rock-solid reliable. Great first choice.

Posted by: pilot141 at April 07, 2013 12:11 PM (unkLq)

270 Since it has been noted here in the past that the leftists think that dystopian novels are an actual playbook, take a quick gander at a quick synopsis of Fahrenheit 451... "Themes There are two major themes of this novel: resistance to conformity and control of individuals via technology and mass media. Bradbury explores how the government is able to use mass media to influence society and suppress individualism through book burning. In addition, the characters Beatty and Faber point out the American population is also to blame. Due to their constant desire for a simplistic, positive image, books must be suppressed. Beatty blames the minority groups, who would take offense to published works that displayed them in an unfavorable light. Faber, went further to state that the American population simply stopped reading on their own. He notes that the book burnings themselves became a form of entertainment to the general public." Your assignment is to refute these premises, or show how they are correct. Show your work.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at April 07, 2013 12:13 PM (feFL6)

271 New thread up

Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2013 12:13 PM (53z96)

272 149 They are not going to build any more NASCAR tracks of any kind. They already have a race every weekend of the year. Darlington used to have two races a year but NASCAR took one of them away so they could give that weekend to a track in CA that had a bigger draw. Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2013 02:28 PM (53z96) New tracks will be built, and they may even get Cup dates, but NASCAR won't add any more races. A current track will lose a race. If a track is built in the Seattle or Toronto areas. NASCAR will schedule a Cup race there.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the former MrCaniac at April 07, 2013 12:16 PM (Zd/NW)

273 >>>So did anyone go and find out if my expectations were fully met?

Haven't been to recent shows, but one thing I am noticing is that armslist and my favorite regional shooters forum are still full of postings of people selling, or attempting to sell, at prices often higher than what I am finding in local stores, if I keep my eyes open.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 12:24 PM (4Mv1T)

274 You might have given me help with my son. I'm not sure if the program will repeat, but check for 'Ingenious Minds' on the Science channel. I think they're on the right track. The author of the book uses the analogy of being 'color blind' until he received the stimulation. Hours after the stimulation, he suddenly noticed that a fellow worker had brown eyes, while being able to make full eye contact -- something he had previously been unable to do). He now gives public speeches (Something I doubt that most allegedly 'average' people can do, and makes eye contact with listeners.) It's certainly worth looking into and doing more research. I know my wife, who is in the field, thinks that A/A is a condition which is recoverable. Especially with early intervention.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at April 07, 2013 12:28 PM (feFL6)

275 Same process for rifle and pistol, not sure about a shotgun. Know you didn't ask, but I thought about flying to a state (on business) with a reciprocal agreement a pick up a handgun a couple of years ago. Did some research and found it was not allowed.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 07, 2013 02:37 PM (YYyqq)


 You can buy a rifle or shotgun in another state, but not a hand gun. Weird, eh.

Posted by: Nobody knows the troubles I've seen at April 07, 2013 12:38 PM (1XRS7)

276 186 I used to prefer TNA, a couple of years ago. They had a lot of younger, smaller guys. They had a hexagonal ring. They had more matches in two hours than the WWE had in four hours of weekly programming. Not so much anymore. Posted by: Truman North at April 07, 2013 02:59 PM (I2LwF) I grew up watching Mid-Atlantic/Georgia Championship which both morphed into WCW, so that is what I cut my teeth on when it comes to wrestling. Back when it was going head to head with the WWE, WCW would have about 25% of the show devoted to the Mexican wrestlers, and it was phenomenal. Their downfall was taking the biggest angle in wrestling history, the NWO, and making everything about it. After that angle took over, all the Mexican and younger wrestlers seemed to go bye-bye. TNA is now doing the same thing with the Aces and 8's. It has now gotten stale, and is too reminiscent of the NWO. Unfortunately, Hogan is a one trick pony, and Bischoff should know better than to push an angle too long, but he always lets Hogan have his way.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the former MrCaniac at April 07, 2013 12:40 PM (Zd/NW)

277 >> Question: Is there such thing as a SA revolver that has a flip out cylinder, like in a standard DA revolver? Not that I know of. Mainly because we didn't go straight to side-swinging cylinders from fixed cylinders. We took a detour through top-breaking frames first.

Posted by: Andy at April 07, 2013 12:44 PM (OZPoa)

278 What is wrong with that man [McCain]?

-----------------------

Chronic Free-Floating Stockholm Syndrome.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 07, 2013 01:04 PM (celt+)

279 Gunbroker has a new .38special 1911 that requires wadcutter ammo...

I may buy one of those since I plan to reload .38 at some point for wife's SASS habit....


Super .38 and .38 special not same ammo.

Posted by: Farmer at April 07, 2013 01:58 PM (tPvRg)

280 this thing dead?

Posted by: Jake in Idaho at April 07, 2013 02:33 PM (zzeVM)

281 252 RickB223,

the model 3 was a top break SA pistol....

so was the Schofield....

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 02:39 PM (LRFds)

282 278 Farmer,

you are correct there is a .38 SP 1911 being built that was is marked "super" there was another by the same dude took special .38 WC ammo....


Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 02:39 PM (LRFds)

283 first swing out was a Colt M1889...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_M1889

Pics

http://tinyurl.com/bt235bq

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 02:44 PM (LRFds)

284 .38 special kit gun

http://youtu.be/8c-QPgPmH60

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 02:45 PM (LRFds)

285 Don't go!! I just finished beef from the grill, and scotch. Stopped by games, weather and chess threads. Much prefer guns, optics, and ammo.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 02:57 PM (4Mv1T)

286 284 Tobacco Road,

I'm hanging around some...

doing my best not to be a top ten poster this week...luckily was way busy a bunch.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 02:59 PM (LRFds)

287 Sven- I am pretty much a neophyte when it comes to really knowing firearms. I traded two 16 gauge for a nice 5.56 and a 12ga pump. I bought double ought military shells and a 20" barrel for th pump. Traded a S and W 32 H&R mag wheelgun for a Springfield XDs 45ACP. Also have a Colt 1911 and Winchester Model 62 22LR pump.

Hope I only need em for target practice.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 03:11 PM (4Mv1T)

288

Speaking of .38s, I think I've identified and old Colt I inherited as a 1901 Army model.

 

Ain't that cool. It is 112 years old and still shooting.

Posted by: Ook? at April 07, 2013 03:12 PM (OQpzc)

289 Old is good. I bought a $170 barrel for the Mossberg 500 I just bought. The blueing on the new barrelwas scuffed from the factory. Not so with my old guns.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 03:14 PM (4Mv1T)

290

They should have given you a discount.

 

If this Colt was manufactured with bluing it is all gone now.

Posted by: Ook? at April 07, 2013 03:18 PM (OQpzc)

291 I read some reviews on the "security" barrels from Mossberg. They are hard to find, and are being sold at ridiculous prices in the secondary market due to demand. Based on all the reviews I read, I'd be just as likely to get another "scuffed" barrel if I sent the first one back.

I don't usually consider myself to be a "settler", but this shotgun is purely for self defense. So like a smoke detector, I don't really worry to much about appearances. Although I'd be happier if it was perfect.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 03:22 PM (4Mv1T)

292 And that sounds like a most excellent Colt you have come into. I sold some nice old shotguns I inherited to be able to update my gun safe.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 03:23 PM (4Mv1T)

293 I'm not "gun counter guy" I read and research it some...if I know something I'll answer if asked...

"defense" barrels for shotguns strike me as :"meh"...

I'd prefer paying a gunsmith to chop it down to 16.25 inches and be done with it.

Trading the 16GAs probably not a bad move since 16ga is a dying load from what I've seen...sorta like the old 28GA

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 03:25 PM (LRFds)

294 288 Tobacco Road,

Yeah I am desperately trying NOT to buy a CZ-52 in 9mm....


the CZ-52 would be a 1000 gun if made today.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 03:26 PM (LRFds)

295 The 18.5 barrels are only $100, and only come in cylinder bore. The 20" barrel is vent ribbed, with Mossberg's "Accushot" choke system. I installed the improved choke as that seems to pattern best with 00buck for defense.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 03:27 PM (4Mv1T)

296 Isn't 18" the federal limit on shotgun barrels?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 03:28 PM (4Mv1T)

297 I have an old single shot 28ga. Was wondering where the first place I  should  look for ammo.

Posted by: Ronster at April 07, 2013 03:29 PM (4PYOi)

298 >>>I have an old single shot 28ga

When I sold my 16ga LC Smith double, I discovered that there are some real aficionados out there. You might not find that ammo retail. Do some web searching. Might have to buy from an individual.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 03:32 PM (4Mv1T)

299 Lucky Gunner has some 223 in stock.

Posted by: Ook? at April 07, 2013 03:32 PM (OQpzc)

300 Yeah I am desperately trying NOT to buy a CZ-52 in 9mm.... Wouldn't you just be getting an old 9MM gun with poor ergonomics? If it's not 7.62X25 hot, why get it?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at April 07, 2013 03:33 PM (QupBk)

301 295 Tobacco Road,

Dunno...don't think so...I'll check I asked my gunsmith about modifying the Remington Model 12 he had down to trench gun specs and he was not nervous...

Ah got it....

Yeah the 26 inch overall length as well....

which makes me wonder about the kel-tec KSG but it is thus far "legal"...

goddamned feds...

I bought an ithaca 37 stake out but it took a NAF ticket and I donated it to the PD a few towns ago...

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 03:33 PM (LRFds)

302 299 Toby 928th,

I am fascinated by the action itself and trying not to add another oddball ammo...


Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 03:34 PM (LRFds)

303 Thanks, Tobacco Road

Posted by: Ronster at April 07, 2013 03:34 PM (4PYOi)

304 28ga ammo

http://tinyurl.com/4ffjtom

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 03:35 PM (LRFds)

305 and trying not to add another oddball ammo... I hear ya. That's the only thing preventing me from getting a 52 or a Tokarev right now. I didn't stock 9X18 until I bought the P64 and now I've had to stock up for it and the Czech 82s. Which sucks in this environment.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at April 07, 2013 03:36 PM (QupBk)

306 The .223 at Luckygunner looks to be $.85 rd best case. Better than most, but I paid $.60 for Remington.223 locally two weeks ago. And didn't have to buy bulk.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 03:36 PM (4Mv1T)

307 ah the KSG....

legal by one half inch both ways...

nicely done kel-tec nicely done...

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 03:37 PM (LRFds)

308 "defense" barrels for shotguns strike me as :"meh"...

I'd prefer paying a gunsmith to chop it down to 16.25 inches and be done with it.

16 min. inch for rifles   18 min. inch for shotguns

Posted by: Farmer at April 07, 2013 03:37 PM (tPvRg)

309 On the flip side, I disinvesting in 30-06. I think I have a local buyer for my 700. It was always a better shooter than I am and now that I have the various Mosins, which are accurate enough for my purposes, I think I can spare it and it's stockpile.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at April 07, 2013 03:38 PM (QupBk)

310 I should have waited for Sven to answer that one.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 03:38 PM (4Mv1T)

311 307 farmer,

yeah i saw that....

I am not "shotgun" guy to the 9s...

I fill a niche and am done with it...

my gunsmith was probably idiot proofing it for me, or gonna tell me a true trench gun was up against it...

I bought his totally legal and above board State Police surplus Rem 870 instead anyway.....

I am utterly scrupulous about following all Federal firearms laws...

unlike certain protected class idiots like Loughner....


Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 03:40 PM (LRFds)

312 wow....glad this came up....

I *should* have remembered that anyway....

Ruby Ridge was over this very topic...

I think Randy Weaver lost his family over 1/4 inch...

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 03:42 PM (LRFds)

313 saw the strangest shotgun in the OTHER direction at his shop earlier this week on my way out not in....

There's a guy with a 5 foot barrel on a 12GA remington....

I swear it was as tall overall as me.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 03:43 PM (LRFds)

314 A Kentucky Long shotgun.

But what the heck for?? 

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 03:45 PM (4Mv1T)

315 Thanks, sven. I checked the prices and even I can afford a couple boxes of the cheaper stuff.

Posted by: Ronster at April 07, 2013 03:45 PM (4PYOi)

316 313 Tobacco Road,

he said there are competitions in the KOI triangle where they see who can get the most accurate pellet shot group kind of thing.....

God only knows...

I'm a pretty good shot, not brag just fact in my prime tuned up I could break broomsticks and juggle a 2*4....

the HillBilly shooting guilds....

and I am not being a hater just saying...have some of the best shots I have ever seen....there was a 71 year old when I was a little boy who was otherworldly accurate with a muzzleloader....


Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 03:48 PM (LRFds)

317 314 Ronster,

NP I aim to help....

and as I have always warned always double check my data...please...

God I feel bad about being wobbly on the shotgun law.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 03:49 PM (LRFds)

318 I thought you lost that shotgun at the lake??

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 07, 2013 03:54 PM (4Mv1T)

319 317 Tobacco Road,

It could probably wade out if 11 feet long...

heh...

not going too emo I promise...

Vic's line about swimming was good.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 03:57 PM (LRFds)

320 I used to have a link to the custom loads for the CZ-52...

its performance is better than the 5.7*28mm IIRC

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 04:04 PM (LRFds)

321 http://www.makarov.com/cz52/

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 04:06 PM (LRFds)

322 The corruption of language, and repetition of cliches is the most insidious thing about the current gun grabbing. About every 10 minutes there is another story about "gun violence." Never: "in another case of knife violence..." or "another fatal instance of fist violence occurred today..." The stats about how many more die from knives, and even fists, than are kiiled by all rifles (let alone the "assault rifle" boogie man) is all ye need to know about how inane the discourse has become. Or, how about the next time they talk about "gun control" we should answer "and what about speech control... or religion control" or (God forbid) "gay sex control." Heavens not that, ever....

Posted by: NYC Parent at April 07, 2013 04:11 PM (kz6Ae)

323 Breaking news-Mikey Bloomby seeks to ban pie, strudel, or any assault dessert

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 07, 2013 04:24 PM (LRFds)

324 MathMom at April 07, 2013 04:10 PM (ODIOT) Here's a link to where you can watch the episode online... http://www.ovguide.com/tv_episode/ingenious-minds-season-1-episode-5-john-robison-3697691

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 08, 2013 05:22 AM (feFL6)

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