February 14, 2013
— Ace
@ChadPergramSenate to vote on cloture for Hagel at 4:15 pm et. Needs 60 votes.
I don't know if this means Hagel has the votes -- or if Reid is just calling our bluff (and may un-call that bluff it if turns out there aren't enough votes for cloture).
All we do know at this time is that Jews control the State Department. Per our would-be future Secretary of Defense, of course.
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When did John Kerry convert? Has he been Mitzvah'd yet?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 14, 2013 11:23 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: My Sharia Moor at February 14, 2013 11:24 AM (liORJ)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at February 14, 2013 11:25 AM (jsWA8)
Place your bets, place your bets.
Ok - I think Reid will pull the vote since he doesn't have the votes. But I wouldn't bet a lot on that.
Posted by: SH at February 14, 2013 11:25 AM (gmeXX)
And John McCain loves him summa dat shit.
Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2013 11:26 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Romeo13........ at February 14, 2013 11:26 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Vic at February 14, 2013 11:26 AM (53z96)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 14, 2013 11:26 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: nip at February 14, 2013 11:26 AM (11Tdq)
In other news, Lautenburg's retirement means Corey Booker will be president within the next 10 years or so. The Obama pattern has been established.
Posted by: joncelli at February 14, 2013 11:26 AM (RD7QR)
Reid had the votes yesterday when Collins agreed to vote for cloture. Mccain was just the reserve idiot.
Don't know what the suspense is, unless a Democrat flipped when I wasn't looking.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 14, 2013 11:27 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 14, 2013 11:27 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2013 11:27 AM (KXm42)
Hell, even if Booker is liberal-minded, he's a rock solid guy. And he loves America.
That right there makes him the antithesis of Obama.
Posted by: imp at February 14, 2013 11:28 AM (UaxA0)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 14, 2013 11:28 AM (XkWWK)
Reid had the votes yesterday when Collins agreed to vote for cloture.
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Then why not vote yesterday. You are probably right, but that is the best argument against Reid having the votes that I can come up with. and I hpoe he doesn't have the votes.
Posted by: SH at February 14, 2013 11:29 AM (gmeXX)
Beacon Hill Stealth Jews operate in complete secrecy when they plot their world domination.
Posted by: @PurpAv at February 14, 2013 11:29 AM (1rU+d)
Posted by: cajun carrot at February 14, 2013 11:29 AM (UZQM8)
I've let my Senators know my sentiments about Hagel...
Pretty sure that Jim Inhofe won't vote for Hagel.
Not sure about Tom Coburn.
Posted by: wheatie at February 14, 2013 11:30 AM (DZbQ0)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 14, 2013 11:30 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Chuck Hagelstein at February 14, 2013 11:30 AM (jucos)
Bzzzzt. Wrong answer!
Posted by: @PurpAv at February 14, 2013 11:30 AM (1rU+d)
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 14, 2013 11:31 AM (wR+pz)
How about Paul Lynde to block?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
No, no, no. Bruce Vilanch for the block. Always.
Posted by: imp at February 14, 2013 11:31 AM (UaxA0)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 14, 2013 11:31 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 14, 2013 03:30 PM (XkWWK)
Oh Goody! another Purple Heart!
Posted by: John Kerry at February 14, 2013 11:31 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 14, 2013 11:32 AM (XkWWK)
This is not good. Reid would not call the vote unless he had them.
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Not necessarily. Could be a bluff. Basically telling McCain, Hagel is going to be confirmed, we can do it now or later, so might as well be now, and see how McCain responds. So yeah, either way you are probably right.
Posted by: SH at February 14, 2013 11:32 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 14, 2013 11:32 AM (XkWWK)
i dun geddit.
Posted by: JDP at February 14, 2013 03:30 PM (60GaT)
Hoping Bambi will conclude that Hagel is damaged goods? Just making a bullshit gesture?
Posted by: joncelli at February 14, 2013 11:32 AM (RD7QR)
Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past.
Posted by: Bigby's Vulcan Salute at February 14, 2013 11:33 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 14, 2013 11:33 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Vic at February 14, 2013 11:34 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 14, 2013 11:34 AM (e0xKF)
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And I don't think Obama has gone to a Georgia school and North Carolina factory. He has really been at a meeting on Jekyll Island.
Posted by: RioBravo at February 14, 2013 11:34 AM (eEfYn)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 14, 2013 11:34 AM (XkWWK)
I don't exactly know what will happen at 4:15. But I'm pretty damn certain I'll be sickened by it.
Posted by: Jaws at February 14, 2013 11:34 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 14, 2013 11:35 AM (lZBBB)
When did John Kerry convert? Has he been Mitzvah'd yet?
He already converted once. He came from a Jewish family, and adopted the surname "Kerry" because he thought an Irish-sounding name might help in Boston.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 14, 2013 11:36 AM (IDSI7)
We're working on that, wingnut.
Posted by: Missouri Dems at February 14, 2013 11:36 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 14, 2013 03:32 PM (XkWWK)
Gay guy on Hollywood Squares tv show.
Posted by: EC at February 14, 2013 11:36 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at February 14, 2013 11:36 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: DocJ at February 14, 2013 11:36 AM (V20sy)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 14, 2013 11:37 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: SH at February 14, 2013 11:37 AM (gmeXX)
I think the vote is procedural. They need to pass a resolution to bring the vote up, it is not the actual nomination vote.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 14, 2013 11:37 AM (wR+pz)
Assault-STYLE postings. Real assault postings are already ill advised.
Posted by: starboardhelm at February 14, 2013 11:37 AM (hHgxI)
Posted by: Soona at February 14, 2013 11:37 AM (AC0O2)
Posted by: nip at February 14, 2013 11:37 AM (11Tdq)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 14, 2013 11:38 AM (jucos)
Dianne Feinswine and Babs (Senator Ma'am) Boxer are utterly reliable Senatorial rubber stamps for Obama.
But if I lived in a state where I actually had GOP Senators, even squishy ones, I would be lighting up the phones to their office right now. Which I recommend to those of you who may have persuadable Senatorial representation.
Even calling to buck up the spirits of Senators who have already announced opposition would be a good thing. They talk to colleagues who might be on the fence.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 14, 2013 11:38 AM (gqT4g)
I think that number is WAY to small. Source?
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 14, 2013 11:38 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: SH at February 14, 2013 11:38 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Vic
Huh?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 14, 2013 03:35 PM (acamJ)
Cloture vote is the one that matters.... ie they'll vote for cloture... and then when the regular vote happens, vote against.... so they 'look' like they voted against him.... while putting him in office...
Senate Two Step...
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 14, 2013 11:39 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: starboardhelm at February 14, 2013 11:39 AM (hHgxI)
Posted by: Fritz at February 14, 2013 11:39 AM (WM+rJ)
The Democrats have enough votes, if they get cloture, to confirm Hagel. And they will. So any Republican who does not vote against cloture is tacitly voting for Hagel.
However, the rules of the Senate say they have to take two votes- cloture, and then one actually to confirm. So you may (probably will) get at least a couple of Republicans who "Don't support Hagel" who vote for cloture, but then vote against him (since then it doesn't cost them anything) when the actual confirmation vote gets called. That way, they can have their cake and eat it, too. They can make sure that Hagel is confirmed, but "vote against him" to bolster their ratings with the various Conservative rating groups.
Which means those groups should be considering cloture votes as well as actual passage votes.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 14, 2013 11:39 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 14, 2013 03:37 PM (wR+pz)
Since every Dem will vote for the nomination the only way the Republicans can defeat him is by filibuster. A vote to invoke cloture is therefore a vote FOR the nomination.
RINOs love to do that shit and hide behind the cloture voting no on the actual vote which is meaningless.
Posted by: Vic at February 14, 2013 11:39 AM (53z96)
I think that number is WAY to small. Source?
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Drudge, not clicking through because not that interested. I thought the same too. Teresa must keep him on a short leesh.
Posted by: SH at February 14, 2013 11:39 AM (gmeXX)
>>>True, but a large majority of us control the guns. At least for now.
For now. But we don't control our present. I flatly predict an end to the 2A in 20 years time, for all practical purposes. It will still be on the books, that's all.
Oh, and no shots fired. Only folks willing to take on the police are the OWS crowd and they agree nobody should have guns. Holing up in Wyoming only helps it all along, too.
This can change but not in our current configurations.
Posted by: Bigby's Vulcan Salute at February 14, 2013 11:39 AM (3ZtZW)
Someone's gaydar needs to be re-calibrated.
Posted by: EC at February 14, 2013 11:40 AM (GQ8sn)
Where was Vitter during the committee vote when unanimity of opposition would have been useful?
Posted by: torquewrench at February 14, 2013 11:40 AM (gqT4g)
If it can't get out of committee, it can't be voted on. The nomination that is.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 14, 2013 11:40 AM (wR+pz)
Iranians are natural conservatives. They'll vote Republican if we resolve this longstanding issue of Israel existing.
However, I will not support amnesty for Iran after they bomb Israel. They will have to pay a fine and go to the back of the line, behind other countries who bombed Israel.
Posted by: John McCain at February 14, 2013 11:40 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 14, 2013 11:40 AM (jucos)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 14, 2013 11:41 AM (e0xKF)
I think the vote is procedural. They need to pass a resolution to bring the vote up, it is not the actual nomination vote.
Technically you are correct. In reality you are 100% wrong. If a party has enough votes to get cloture, they have enough votes to pass whatever they want.
Which is why the Republicans should have changed the Filibuster rules back to their original state (that is: you actually have to run a filibuster) when they had the chance.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 14, 2013 11:42 AM (8y9MW)
Thank, I know that. I use to have some elected position where this knowledge be good. Robert's Rules of Order and all that.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 14, 2013 11:42 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Jim J. Bullock at February 14, 2013 11:42 AM (e0xKF)
But can others confirm. This is the first of two cloture votes requiring 60 votes. I realize that if you get the first, you will 99.999% of the time get the other, but I want to make sure I am right on the cloture.
Posted by: SH at February 14, 2013 11:42 AM (gmeXX)
59...I hope Coburn is primaried the next time he's up. I've never trusted him.
Posted by: Soona at February 14, 2013 03:37 PM (AC0O2)
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Yeah, he's a good fighter sometimes...like on spending and government waste.
But then he votes with the Dems on other things.
Not sure who would run against him, in a primary.
We might get someone who is even worse.
Posted by: wheatie at February 14, 2013 11:42 AM (DZbQ0)
Ii is already out of committee. That committee is not the same as the judicial committee that requires at least one minority Party member voting to bring the bill/nomination out.
The cloture vote is to allow voting yeah or nay on the nomination.
Posted by: Vic at February 14, 2013 11:43 AM (53z96)
Is there special furniture in a Jewish Lobby that no other lobby has?
In a manner of speaking yes. It's regular furniture, but covered in clear plastic slip-covers. Shhhhh. You didn't hear this from me. The Joooos. They're everywhere.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at February 14, 2013 11:46 AM (KESFj)
"I'll take Lindsey Graham to block."
"Lindsey, why do Hell's Angels wear leather?"
"Because chiffon wrinkles too easily."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 14, 2013 11:47 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 14, 2013 11:50 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 14, 2013 11:51 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 14, 2013 11:52 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 14, 2013 11:53 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 14, 2013 11:54 AM (l86i3)
why am I not invited to the secret Jews control the world meetings?
and where are all the trolls? Joooooos bring em out usually
Posted by: thunderb at February 14, 2013 11:56 AM (Dnbau)
59...I hope Coburn is primaried the next time he's up. I've never trusted him.
Posted by: Soona at February 14, 2013 03:37 PM (AC0O2)
Really?
Posted by: polynikes at February 14, 2013 11:56 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Infidel at February 14, 2013 11:56 AM (O/fK8)
Posted by: Gerry at February 14, 2013 12:01 PM (t0VDn)
Posted by: Jean at February 14, 2013 12:24 PM (7tVNd)
No- Paul, Graham, Cruz, Corker, Fisher, Thune, Heller, Shelby, Coburn, Portman, McCain, Moran, Rubio
Yes- Collins, Hagel, Obama, Kerry, Che, Putin, Castro F, Castro R, Bo, Carville, Gibbs, Carney, M Ooshell, FS Army, Obamaphone "lady", B Panthers, Cowboy Poet, T Kennedy, Byrd, Uni Corn, S Kittles, B Clinton, H Clinton, Marshall Davis, C Hoom, G Ang.
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Did not get the needed 60 votes! Suck it Harry Reid!
Posted by: alf767 at February 14, 2013 01:00 PM (hb/yS)
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Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 14, 2013 11:22 AM (8y9MW)