March 01, 2013
— DrewM We're not immune to the effects of sequestration here at the HQ....Ben wasn't able to do his normal link dump so here's an open thread. Feel free to share you sequestration horror stories here. If the dead have risen, the North Korean have invaded or there's just general mayhem in your neighborhood because some day soon the federal government will have $85 billion less to spend, we want to know about it.
But keep in mind the real victims of our bloated federal government....federal employees.
No one would mistake Mantua, a leafy section of Fairfax County where houses sell in the $700,000 range, for a factory town, but where Jenny Foo lives, almost everyoneÂ’s paycheck comes from the same place.Foo, who spent her career at the State Department, lives across from someone who worked at the Food and Drug Administration and another who had a career in the U.S. Geological Survey and just up from a couple of military families. Around the corner, thereÂ’s a National Park Service historian, a Pentagon analyst and a Foreign Service diplomat.
In Mantua, 14 miles west of the Federal Triangle, the sledgehammer of budget cuts scheduled to hit today are a threat to financial stability, an unnecessary reminder of a political system that seems unable to solve problems, and, perhaps worst of all, a symbol of how dramatically perceptions of government work have shifted.
Clearly we need to hold a concert for emergency relief and get Sally Struthers working on a commercial.
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Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 01, 2013 06:02 AM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 01, 2013 06:03 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 06:04 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 06:04 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: huerfano at March 01, 2013 06:04 AM (bAGA/)
>>>>Funny....I haven't noticed a thing. Not a thing.
1] Ben's Dump has been cut!
2] Drew's post is shorter than usual!
Next thing you know, there'll be less content!
Posted by: Bigby's Baby Fist at March 01, 2013 06:04 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 01, 2013 06:05 AM (4Mv1T)
Hold on, I'm feeling something...maybe it's the effects of sequestration!
Nope, just gas. Carry on.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 01, 2013 06:05 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 01, 2013 06:06 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 01, 2013 06:06 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 06:06 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: MikeJ at March 01, 2013 06:06 AM (Us4M2)
Posted by: Albie Damned at March 01, 2013 06:06 AM (UQBwB)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 01, 2013 06:06 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 01, 2013 06:06 AM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Bawney Fwank's prolapsed sock drawer at March 01, 2013 06:06 AM (ku7mz)
Posted by: cajun carrot at March 01, 2013 06:07 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 01, 2013 06:07 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Huginn at March 01, 2013 06:08 AM (G/E01)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 01, 2013 06:08 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: runningrn at March 01, 2013 06:08 AM (Ag5D2)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 01, 2013 06:09 AM (l86i3)
Tax revenues left after paying out credits and withholdings over liability are the lowest in the modern era, I posted a link at the morning round up Gabe posted...
we reduced federal spending by ~1/80th...if the nation can't bear that break it up and let's start over.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 06:09 AM (LRFds)
the funny thing is from a raw economics standpoint they'd be doing society more good in all likelihood being Wal-Mart door greeters...
especially the regulatory agency employees....
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 06:10 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: zsasz at March 01, 2013 06:10 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2013 06:11 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: cajun carrot at March 01, 2013 06:12 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: Fenrir at March 01, 2013 06:12 AM (TVBv1)
Deal with the bad actors in the civil service for a few months and get back to me....
not being a total dick either...
they gave two fucks about the private sector getting asshammered and were QUITE vocal in loving them some choom for the most part.
You sowed salt in the fields of the prouctive US economy civil servants empowering marxists and activists....
reap what you sow.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 06:12 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: mugiwara at March 01, 2013 06:13 AM (W7ffl)
I love the line about "worst of all, a dramatic change in the perception of federal work".
Yes they were always real people (my Dad was a career federal employee as a civil engineer working in various federal agencies).
But Federal (and state) civil servants have been cosseted beyond effin' belief. Time to wake up and smell the coffee in the real world.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at March 01, 2013 06:13 AM (oe1aw)
I am ~60% certain they don't retake the house...
even if they did if Mexifornia has proven anything it is that even a single republican elected is to blame bud...
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 06:13 AM (LRFds)
Obama's half-brother runs for governor in Kenya
"Malik Obama is running for a governor's position in Kenya's nationwide elections on Monday. The 54-year-old Malik Obama hopes to become the first governor of Kenya's western county of Siaya. Malik and Barack Obama have the same father but different mothers."
Are we sure this guy is Obama's brother?
"He asked an AP Television News freelance cameraman to contribute to his campaign."
We're sure.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 01, 2013 06:14 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at March 01, 2013 06:14 AM (qtKqj)
They'll be fine. *We're* cut to the bone and nearly at the last of our bread, but they'll be okay for years yet.
Posted by: lauraw at March 01, 2013 06:15 AM (yGblt)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 01, 2013 06:15 AM (Ud5vq)
Posted by: Bigby's Baby Fist at March 01, 2013 06:15 AM (3ZtZW)
You know, I feel sorry for federal employees. Not all of them, obviously, but the ones who actually go to work every day, do their job, then go home at night prepared to come in tomorrow and do it again. We have several of them who post here, in fact, on a regular basis. These are the people who understand that they are paid BY THE TAXPAYER, and that the best way to insure they do NOT get cut is to be the best and most effective at their jobs. Even then they know they aren't guaranteed a job anymore than someone in the private sector. These are not the people wailing about health insurance and vacation time, but they're too often lumped in with the dipshits who are.
I'm a state employee, so I hear it all the time, too. But I'm also first in line to criticize the idiot staties who are complaining and acting like dumbass, spoiled brats. (Don't get me started on the teachers. DO NOT GET ME STARTED.) Nothing makes me more disgusted than self-aggrandizing arrogance; I don't care WHO says it.
The idiots who bitch and moan and complain are by no means the majority, but since they're the noisiest, and since they prop up the MFM's narrative of Sequestermageddon, they're the ones who get any screentime. So I want to take a moment to say thank you to the public employees who actually DO take their jobs seriously, who don't view them as some sacred cow sinecure, and who try to make life in our bureaucratic society just a little bit easier for the rest of us. Hopefully it's THOSE people who will keep their jobs, while the slackers and assholes get kicked to the curb.
A girl can dream, can't she?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:15 AM (4df7R)
I'm have sequestration mai-tais later. I had planned to up the rum content by half a shot, but I'll only be increasing it by a third. I'll never get drunk at this rate.
Posted by: huerfano at March 01, 2013 06:16 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 01, 2013 06:16 AM (p/cQy)
Of course, the more people observe Boehner in action, the harder it is for anyone to believe the repubs are competent or intelligent enough to win a pillow fight, much less a fight involving principles and that legislation stuff.
A party that seems to have adopted "There are no hills worth dying for!" as its motto, doesn't exactly inspire those who might like to be in their ranks!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 01, 2013 06:16 AM (Cnqmv)
Meanwhile Federal employees are pointing out that life is uncertain for them, incomes are falling, and they will enjoy three day week ends for a prolong period of time. Meanwhile the U6 measure of unemployment is 14.4 percent, not counting people no longer even marginally attached to the labor force. Labor force participation is the lowest rate since roughly 1980.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm
Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey (http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 01, 2013 06:16 AM (v1dFx)
Longtime Northern VA resident chiming in; "it's about time".
What very few outside of the area understand is the incredible pressures exerted on every aspect of life by the bloated expansion of the Federal presence.
The continual ratcheting up of Federal dollars (BTW, the "no pay increase for past 3 years = top grade, A1 Bull***t. Federal employees have had increases in income all along) has driven up housing, food, & daily service prices to the point of insanity. My oldest will be moving to Texas soon; an "official" estimate is that his $67K salary here will approximate $110K there...
Mantua is a perfect example - mostly modest mid century homes, most w/decent yards selling for three quarters to one million dollars?? Seriously? FWIW, this is also the region of leased near luxury/luxury cars and high levels of consumer spending - "personal savings" is a foreign concept...
The Sequester is having an impact here - I know people who are quite worried - to the point of it impacting their personal, day to day lives, and that does upset me; that we have a mandarin class so convinced of their own value that any negative action is perceived as a personal affront.
Perhaps it's a location thing, but I chuckle @ Monty's dooms & similar, as I see it already gone...
Posted by: Jess1 at March 01, 2013 06:16 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:17 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Roy at March 01, 2013 06:17 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Ed Snyder at March 01, 2013 06:18 AM (F3KAf)
Not fucking fair!
Posted by: EC at March 01, 2013 06:18 AM (GQ8sn)
It seems the Sequester will truly be the end of days.
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 01, 2013 06:18 AM (6WVi+)
Posted by: The Horror, The Horror at March 01, 2013 06:18 AM (Hu/Da)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:18 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 01, 2013 06:18 AM (Ud5vq)
Posted by: Dave in MA at March 01, 2013 06:18 AM (zsPnE)
Posted by: bil at March 01, 2013 06:19 AM (EhSF0)
Posted by: Roy at March 01, 2013 06:19 AM (VndSC)
Y'all are just a bunch of right-wing credentialists.
Posted by: Fritz at March 01, 2013 06:19 AM (WM+rJ)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik, missing Breitbart at March 01, 2013 06:19 AM (YOZSv)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:19 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: RWC at March 01, 2013 06:19 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 01, 2013 10:15 AM (4df7R)
I'm in local government myself. I don't bitch and moan when people whine about lazy entitled government workers. I can pick a dozen employed by my agency right off the top of my head whom if fired would increase total productivity.
Posted by: mugiwara at March 01, 2013 06:20 AM (W7ffl)
Posted by: Zombie Janis at March 01, 2013 06:20 AM (bGlsD)
We do not have nearly enough National Park Service historians. We have a National Park Service historian gap.
Posted by: somebody else, not me at March 01, 2013 06:20 AM (nZvGM)
Posted by: Bigby's Baby Fist at March 01, 2013 10:04 AM (3ZtZW)
We have content?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 01, 2013 06:20 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: mugiwara at March 01, 2013 10:20 AM (W7ffl)
Oh trust me, so could I. But they're never the ones who get fired, are they? It's always the ones who do any work who get laid off.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:21 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Waterhouse at March 01, 2013 06:21 AM (vBSha)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at March 01, 2013 06:21 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at March 01, 2013 06:21 AM (hKIk9)
OT: Today's Adam Carolla Podcast is well worth the listen for his grilling of the loathesome Gavin Newsome.
Posted by: Jaws at March 01, 2013 06:21 AM (4I3Uo)
Need some Moron financial advice.
Couple extra bucks laying around. Put it to retiring my car loan (which doesn't have far to go, and is pretty low interest) or buy some silver while the price is down?
Posted by: LibertarianJim (team #letitburn) at March 01, 2013 06:21 AM (WDCYi)
Posted by: Gunny2862 at March 01, 2013 06:21 AM (vlfpB)
Or layoff the entire DHS.
Hmm market tantrum picking up speed (50! points now), perhaps that's not the joke to make.
Posted by: Methos at March 01, 2013 06:22 AM (hO9ad)
Posted by: cajun carrot at March 01, 2013 06:22 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: Libra at March 01, 2013 06:23 AM (cMWZ+)
Posted by: mja at March 01, 2013 06:23 AM (6I+f5)
Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at March 01, 2013 06:23 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Daybrother at March 01, 2013 06:23 AM (+paCV)
Poor dears, losing one day of pay a week. Perhaps they could try a second part-time job to cover the gap? The way so many of the lower classes must? Could they endure such a sacrifice?
Posted by: Stu-22 at March 01, 2013 06:23 AM (AiYlm)
Racist!
Posted by: Jesse Sharpton Jr. at March 01, 2013 06:23 AM (ku7mz)
Posted by: zsasz at March 01, 2013 06:23 AM (MMC8r)
Oh trust me, so could I. But they're never the ones who get fired, are they? It's always the ones who do any work who get laid off.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 01, 2013 10:21 AM (4df7R)
Ain't that the truth...
Posted by: mugiwara at March 01, 2013 06:23 AM (W7ffl)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at March 01, 2013 06:23 AM (nZvGM)
NOT happy.
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 01, 2013 10:23 AM (UypUQ)
Because of sequestration.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 01, 2013 06:23 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: NR Pax at March 01, 2013 06:24 AM (1ml8s)
Posted by: cajun carrot at March 01, 2013 06:24 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: mugiwara at March 01, 2013 10:23 AM (W7ffl)
It's the squeaky wheel complex. The bad workers are the ones who'll sue if you fire them. The good workers will just find another job.
*rolling eyes*
This is why I could never work in HR, private or public sector. I'd be guilty of murder within the first month.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:25 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jenny tries too hard and also hates her phone at March 01, 2013 06:25 AM (gUuIT)
This morning, when I took the kids to school, I passed two different construction crews. They were all standing around doing nothing. I *know* it's because the sequester means they had to cancel this morning's concrete deliveries.
I also passed a car with an ugly woman driving. The sequester meant she couldn't get make up for her face.
It's a horrible day.
Posted by: Dax at March 01, 2013 06:25 AM (gUYGX)
Just got a speeding ticket.NOT happy.
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 01, 2013 10:23 AM (UypUQ)
Tell them you can't pay. Why not? Sequestration.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:25 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Rob Reiner at March 01, 2013 06:26 AM (ypzqs)
Posted by: Roy at March 01, 2013 06:26 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at March 01, 2013 06:26 AM (hKIk9)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:26 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: MikeJ at March 01, 2013 10:06 AM (Us4M2)
I worked as a contractor at an Air Force base many years ago and encountered many dedicated, hard-working civil servants. Good for them and good for us. We need dedicated, hard-working civil servants. That said, the manufacturing base in my little town has suffered massive layoffs and closings over the last several years. Many people I know are working contract jobs or multiple part-time jobs or retail or restaurant jobs paying way below what a family needs to prosper--no retirement benefits, no 401K, no healthcare, nothing. Throughout all of this, public sector workers in state and federal government--especially federal government--have continued to enjoy salary increases and the like, and many who are about to be laid off have (or should have) substantial savings upon which to rely until they find work again, unlike so many in the private sector who have been pink-slipped without notice.
Welcome to the real world.
Posted by: troyriser at March 01, 2013 06:27 AM (vtiE6)
Posted by: Roy at March 01, 2013 10:26 AM (VndSC)
Agreed!
I bet he's up in heaven right now, laughing and slapping his knee as he watches the little lefties run around screaming.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:27 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: andycanuck at March 01, 2013 06:27 AM (ORGYc)
Sequestration seems to have hit the NC school comouter system - I was trying to apply for a job at a school nearby (administrative) but I have to create an account with the state-wide system first, and after trying two different browsers on two different computers, I cannot get the website to work properly. Since the opening closes today, it looks like I will miss out on a job opportunity because the IT people cannot build a functioning website. Bah.
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 01, 2013 06:27 AM (B4jfv)
Seriously, TWO YEARS since I've been pulled over. You'd think that would be enough grace period to get a warning.
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 01, 2013 06:27 AM (UypUQ)
It's the squeaky wheel complex. The bad workers are the ones who'll sue if you fire them. The good workers will just find another job.
*rolling eyes*
This is why I could never work in HR, private or public sector. I'd be guilty of murder within the first month.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 01, 2013 10:25 AM (4df7R)
You're in NH, right? They force you to pay off a union that only gives a shit about the lazy whiners like they do here in NY?
Posted by: mugiwara at March 01, 2013 06:28 AM (W7ffl)
Posted by: joncelli at March 01, 2013 06:29 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2013 06:29 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 01, 2013 06:29 AM (UypUQ)
Posted by: Charles Schumer at March 01, 2013 06:29 AM (Cs2tJ)
Posted by: JDTAY at March 01, 2013 06:29 AM (a0nis)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 01, 2013 10:27 AM (UypUQ)
They probably made shortfall on revenue for February, so they're going to give out more tickets in the start of march to make up the difference.
The beginning and end of every month, I try to drive like a saint. That's when they'll getcha for the stupidest, TINIEST violation.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:29 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: polynikes at March 01, 2013 06:30 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Prezzy Barky at March 01, 2013 06:30 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 01, 2013 06:30 AM (OZ9Xn)
Posted by: mugiwara at March 01, 2013 10:28 AM (W7ffl)
You betcha! I love receiving my SEIU newsletter. There's nothing more satisfying than ripping that piece of shit into teeny, tiny pieces and flushing it down the toilet. Bunch of fucking bastards.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:30 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Navin R. Johnson at March 01, 2013 06:30 AM (trA4n)
"Perhaps they could try a second part-time job to cover the gap"
You're missing the entire point.
To you, me, & the next guy that makes perfect sense. To the 2nd or 3rd generation Federal Worker (and yes, it's common to see 2/3/4 generations) the deal is that in return for their hard work and sacrifice, we, the recipients of their labors, will gladly cover their needs and wants. And no, I'm not kidding - read the comments @ the WaPo link.
My oldest went thru FFaX & VA schools and works in drilling & pipelines - very lucrative work these days - but had an interesting perspective @ a class reunion in that the Gov't employees (mostly women, BTW) have a rather haughty attitude towards the rest of the world...
In other words, the time for real cuts is long past.
Posted by: Jess1 at March 01, 2013 06:31 AM (lbiWb)
Obama governance on display.
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 01, 2013 06:31 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 01, 2013 06:31 AM (p/cQy)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2013 06:31 AM (is6Me)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at March 01, 2013 06:31 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 01, 2013 06:31 AM (qyv02)
#SequesterApocalypse #OnTheSceneSequesterReport
Posted by: kbdabear at March 01, 2013 06:31 AM (mCvL4)
Posted by: forest at March 01, 2013 06:31 AM (L7wZc)
well that and add in that the Federales are running a fine line on cash on hand so to speak...
Goddamned they are idiots...
GOP get your head out of your ass and learnt eh power of "no"
No I am not taking a vote on the violence against women act dumbass tell reid to pass a fucking budget
No I really don't give a fuck about gun control tell reid to pass a budget
over and over and over....
GOP you were sent up there to get the goddamned economy stabilized do your job.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 06:32 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Hawk at March 01, 2013 06:32 AM (2dYnc)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2013 10:29 AM (1Jaio)
But mostly the sequestration.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:32 AM (4df7R)
#OnTheSceneSequesterReport #SequesterApocalypse
pic.twitter.com/36h3QC9rn0
Posted by: kbdabear at March 01, 2013 06:32 AM (mCvL4)
I was looking forward to a trip to Carson City for technical evaluation and Factory Acceptance Testing of a couple of automated fusion welders for aircraft engine remanufacturing, but due to sequester only the process guy will go.
Squaw Valley and all of that snow.
Meh. I'm sure he can handle it. Too bad he doesn't ski.
Posted by: Cluebat from Exodar at March 01, 2013 06:32 AM (y67bA)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 01, 2013 10:30 AM (4df7R)
You got the purple people beaters, huh? I've got CSEA. But we're all AFSCME AFL-CIO, right brothers and sisters?
Posted by: mugiwara at March 01, 2013 06:32 AM (W7ffl)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2013 06:32 AM (is6Me)
Posted by: cu'chulainn at March 01, 2013 06:33 AM (Vk2CC)
Do they really think that this looks like America ?
Been to Baltimore recently ?
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 01, 2013 06:33 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 01, 2013 10:29 AM (UypUQ)
Paid on the spot with a credit card? Did you get to see the really cool data terminal in the car, with the thermofax printer and instant data access and credit card processor? Somebody has to pay for that ya know?
I've paid my fair share ($10 fine, $110 court costs and processing fee)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 01, 2013 06:33 AM (v1dFx)
Posted by: kbdabear at March 01, 2013 06:33 AM (mCvL4)
"But these are real people, and they are faced with losing their jobs"
As is everyone else. Why are they "special"?
Posted by: Jess1 at March 01, 2013 06:33 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: Barack Obama at March 01, 2013 06:33 AM (MSrqi)
Posted by: mugiwara at March 01, 2013 10:32 AM (W7ffl)
*fist upheld* Word.
*brings fist down in face of SEIU idiot in the next office*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:34 AM (4df7R)
Also, the steering wheel blocks my view of the odometer a consequence of sequestration) .
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 01, 2013 06:34 AM (UypUQ)
106But these are real people, and they are faced with losing their jobs. They could be unable to pay for their house, their food, their basic needs. That doesn't hit them any less seriously that it would a factory worker, a farmer, or an entrepreneur. We are all God's children. We are all created equal. Let's keep that in mind when rolling out the snark.
Posted by: MikeJ at March 01, 2013 10:06 AM (Us4M2)
The taxpayer doesn't exist as a slave to the governement employee. Taxpayers are real people too, who have seen their dreams diminished by an increasingly overbearing government that they pay for. The governemnt workers can do like everyone does in the private economy: Get another job.
No Tears Here.
Posted by: Minuteman at March 01, 2013 06:34 AM (dSE0q)
I don't think he's caving champ and I think the liberals in the GOP on the hill were threatening to go cry on camera with the mules...
if that is the case and we can't hold on 87 billion fuck it I quit...
I will vote straight ticket D and speed up the coming civil discord by so doing....
I am sick and tired of New England holding America hostage.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 06:34 AM (LRFds)
I guess this is a sequest joke.
There have been a lot of snarky funny disaster sequest tweets. heh heh
Posted by: carolina at March 01, 2013 06:34 AM (wI9Ya)
To be fair, that's downright affordable compared to the cost of similarly sized homes in Arlington, Alexandria and the inhabitable parts of DC.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2013 06:35 AM (is6Me)
Posted by: Jenny tries too hard and also hates her phone at March 01, 2013 06:35 AM (gUuIT)
Posted by: Barack Obama at March 01, 2013 06:35 AM (MSrqi)
Posted by: Fritz at March 01, 2013 06:35 AM (WM+rJ)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2013 06:35 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 01, 2013 06:35 AM (qyv02)
Posted by: cu'chulainn at March 01, 2013 10:33 AM (Vk2CC)
This. The smart feds are teh ones who say, "Hey, at least I'm lucky enough to have a job." It's only the complete IDIOTS who would have the gall to bitch about losing a day a week. ARRGH, I hate them!
*MWR SMASH!*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:35 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 01, 2013 06:36 AM (jucos)
Posted by: yeah, I got nothing at March 01, 2013 06:36 AM (QupBk)
Expecting competence and coherence from the elected GOP is a frustrating and futile task. I keep asking myself, what rational principled thing have they done since the 2012 election and I keep coming up short. I am no longer sure that they are worth voting for because at best they provide a very very gentle braking effect as we head over the cliff.
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 01, 2013 06:36 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at March 01, 2013 06:36 AM (1c58W)
"The wife will be losing 1 day of pay per week, 2 days per check and 4 days per month...and for someone in the low GS band, it's going to hurt"
Want to know how I know you don't live in Mantua?
Posted by: Jess1 at March 01, 2013 06:36 AM (lbiWb)
My 2 1/2 year contract at a big Pharma ends today.
Monday I start another long contract at DHS.
Sequestration. What sequestration.
Posted by: trainer @ LIB at March 01, 2013 06:36 AM (QbdUW)
Damn you sequestration!
Posted by: Waterhouse at March 01, 2013 06:36 AM (vBSha)
Posted by: Tesh at March 01, 2013 06:36 AM (cnjni)
Posted by: Minuteman at March 01, 2013 06:36 AM (dSE0q)
Its a disaster I tell you!
Posted by: looking closely at March 01, 2013 06:36 AM (PwGfd)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 01, 2013 06:37 AM (qqZuQ)
Seriously. The pop station I put on for my kids this morning featured a DJ reading an email from a woman who was terrified that her daughter's Early Head Start would be cut.
MWR HULK:
DO NOT GET ME STARTED ON THE HEAD START.
DO NOT GET ME STARTED.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:37 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Minuteman at March 01, 2013 10:36 AM (dSE0q)
How many of them went to Harvard or Yale?
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 01, 2013 06:38 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Minuteman at March 01, 2013 10:36 AM (dSE0q)
My son's infantry unit deployed to Afghanistan today. 'Disrupted' is as good of a word as any to describe how I feel right now.
Posted by: troyriser at March 01, 2013 06:38 AM (vtiE6)
Posted by: JDTAY at March 01, 2013 06:38 AM (a0nis)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 01, 2013 06:38 AM (Ud5vq)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2013 06:38 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at March 01, 2013 06:39 AM (VdNG6)
and that is where we are...
Eric Cantor saying "pass this or it is civil war."
Yeah Cantor....
play that game bed.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 06:39 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Liberal at March 01, 2013 06:39 AM (SO2Q8)
>>>Couple extra bucks laying around. Put it to retiring my car loan (which doesn't have far to go, and is pretty low interest) or buy some silver while the price is down?
If you're feeling adventurous.... consider investing in penny weed stocks. MJNA is in the medical marijuana and industrial hemp bidness, trading at ~0.29 currently. With recent passage of laws in states like CO it could go up a titch.
Go on, make money off of the stupidity of others.
Posted by: Bigby's Baby Fist at March 01, 2013 06:39 AM (3ZtZW)
Consumer Spending in U.S. Climbs Even as Taxes Hurt Incomes
What could go wrong??? Posted by: cajun carrot at March 01, 2013 10:24 AM
Nice little thing Bloomberg does there. Gas purchases count for consumer spending data and GDP, but they don't count towards inflation
Chocolate rations will be increased from 10 ounces per day to 8 ounces per day
Posted by: kbdabear at March 01, 2013 06:39 AM (mCvL4)
Posted by: jacknine at March 01, 2013 06:39 AM (0h8aq)
Honestly, the Pugs that voted to keep this meat bag as Speaker should be driven out of town on a rail. All of them.
Posted by: Attila at March 01, 2013 06:40 AM (Cs2tJ)
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 01, 2013 06:40 AM (MSrqi)
Posted by: JDTAY at March 01, 2013 10:38 AM (a0nis)
*SNORT*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:40 AM (4df7R)
one of the things we have to run on after the burning especially if Bam keeps blowing his union backers is pointing out how much scratch the feds make working cush jobs to free shit army....
especially more moral given how much glee Obama takes screwing the military.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 06:41 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 01, 2013 06:41 AM (U5rMc)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 01, 2013 10:40 AM (qyv02)
To be fair, it's WHITE chocolate.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:41 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: NR Pax at March 01, 2013 10:24 AM (1ml8s)
Whoa, you found a shortcut to Dupont Circle! Awesome!
Posted by: joncelli at March 01, 2013 06:41 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: zsasz at March 01, 2013 06:41 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Attila at March 01, 2013 10:40 AM (Cs2tJ)
We had a chance and the mandarins screwed us again!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 01, 2013 06:41 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Stirner at March 01, 2013 06:41 AM (Ytuz8)
Posted by: Barack Obama at March 01, 2013 06:42 AM (MSrqi)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 01, 2013 10:41 AM (4df7R)
Then it's not really chocolate. Also, RAAAAAACIST!
Posted by: Insomniac at March 01, 2013 06:42 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 01, 2013 10:41 AM (4df7R)
What's THAT mean?
It tans easily and can't dance?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 01, 2013 06:42 AM (qyv02)
yeah well a more polite nickname for him than mine...
you do recall i tried to defend him the other week when he went full tard on Amnesty?
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 06:42 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Done Gone Galt at March 01, 2013 06:42 AM (Ih7Dg)
Gozer arrives in NYC. Hears about sequester. Leaves. #StoriesFromTheSequester
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:42 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: jd at March 01, 2013 06:42 AM (Ks5+T)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 01, 2013 06:43 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Barack Obama at March 01, 2013 06:43 AM (MSrqi)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 01, 2013 06:43 AM (U5rMc)
It tans easily and can't dance?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 01, 2013 10:42 AM (qyv02)
It means that it's not REALLY chocolate; it's sweet stuff masquerading as chocolate. The only ones who get real chocolate are the mandarins on Capitol Hill. Bastards.
But otherwise, yes, it's terribly RAAAAACISSSST!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:43 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 01, 2013 10:39 AM (Cnqmv)
Thank you. Blessings to you and yours, as well.
Posted by: troyriser at March 01, 2013 06:44 AM (vtiE6)
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 01, 2013 06:44 AM (6WVi+)
Global warming run amok due to sequestration cuts! We're all gonna die!
Posted by: PJ at March 01, 2013 06:44 AM (ZWaLo)
I've got CSEA
Fortunately with advanced drug therapies, many people with this affliction go on to lead healthy, productive lives.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 01, 2013 06:44 AM (DrWcr)
Don't you understand,
Lady Obama will not be able to take her brunch in bed.
There will be no 3rd footman at lunch service today.
The president will have to jerk himself off tonight
I do NOT approve
Posted by: Mr carson at March 01, 2013 06:45 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 01, 2013 10:44 AM (DrWcr)
lol!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:45 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 01, 2013 06:45 AM (p/cQy)
Posted by: USPS at March 01, 2013 06:45 AM (MSrqi)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:46 AM (4df7R)
She knows she's an attention whore.
And she loves it.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 01, 2013 06:46 AM (qyv02)
This. The smart feds are teh ones who say, "Hey, at least I'm lucky enough to have a job." It's only the complete IDIOTS who would have the gall to bitch about losing a day a week. ARRGH, I hate them!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 01, 2013 10:35 AM (4df7R)
I am in the former category. I experienced long-term unemployment during the post-dot-com bust years and it was the most horrible experience of my life. I was working in the private sector at the time leading up to the dearth of software development jobs, too, so anyone here who believes I should resign my DoD gig in order to experience "what it's like in the real world" can suck the barbed cock of Satan.
That said, I support the sequester.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's hi-cap assault diaphragm at March 01, 2013 06:47 AM (7xeJQ)
Posted by: USPS at March 01, 2013 06:47 AM (MSrqi)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:47 AM (4df7R)
uh no actually it's hilarious....
they nuked the fucking agricultural breadbasket of california to save a bait fish that only lived in a manmade canal and never existed in that "needs to be protected environment" prior to man....
They got their raises while the private sector imploded due to their interference because of PEU rent seeking and still they claimed more was due...
I'm sorry your PhD is hobbled but no these bilious activist sacks of shit in too many cases have earned every ounce of "terrible pain" they are getting.
I feel genuine sorrow for the contractors who are FIRED not furloughed a day a week or month and I KNOW and am friend with some decent civil servants but too many of these same civil servants as a whole refuse to even ponder at their harm to the national economy in their work.
No sympathy?
I have as much for them as their pet Lez Warren has for me.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 06:47 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: a mindful webworker at March 01, 2013 06:47 AM (Es08n)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 01, 2013 06:48 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Jenny tries too hard and also hates her phone at March 01, 2013 06:48 AM (gUuIT)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 01, 2013 06:48 AM (Ec6wH)
Evita and Elena loved the spotlight too. So did Imelda when it came to her shoes. Don't be Evita, Elena, or Imelda.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 01, 2013 06:48 AM (U5rMc)
I'm in local government myself. I don't bitch and moan when people whine about lazy entitled government workers. I can pick a dozen employed by my agency right off the top of my head whom if fired would increase total productivity.
Posted by: mugiwara at March 01, 2013 10:20 AM (W7ffl)
I'm a fed. (Yes. I said it.)
If I lost my job, the government would continue to function. That is simply a fact. What is ALSO a fact is that because this check pays my bills and my rent, I bust my ass for as long as it takes to get the job done. There are three people in my shop (of 9) who come in, open solitaire and don't close it until they leave. They're 14's. When people bitch about government waste, it's those people I think about before I realize that I'm just as useless in the scheme of things.
I hate that the first stable job I've had since I came off of active duty is the only job that will garner wide-spread condemnation from conservatives. I hate more that it's true. I DON'T need to be here for the government to function.
My principles dictate that I quit my job and try to find something in the private sector. My reality (location, rent, etc) dictates that I work as hard as I can in the job that I have. I think being unemployed makes me a bigger leech than being a federal employee. At least now I'm giving the taxpayers something in return for their investment in me.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 01, 2013 06:48 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's hi-cap assault diaphragm at March 01, 2013 10:47 AM (7xeJQ)
Good for you. And I'm glad you were able to get out of unemployment hell. If our gubmint had more sane people working in it, maybe it wouldn't be so insanely out of control!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at March 01, 2013 06:48 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: a mindful webworker at March 01, 2013 06:48 AM (Es08n)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 01, 2013 06:49 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 01, 2013 06:49 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: TSA Spokesperson at March 01, 2013 06:49 AM (MSrqi)
Posted by: eman at March 01, 2013 06:49 AM (o3GHm)
Posted by: EC at March 01, 2013 10:19 AM (GQ8sn)
-------------------------------------------------------
OMG! Now THAT hurts. Something must be done!
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 01, 2013 10:36 AM (jucos)
Sorry TM! I'll try to move some accounts around, but it looks like I'll re-running standby pics of Helen Thomas and Mooch instead.
Posted by: EC at March 01, 2013 06:49 AM (GQ8sn)
In all seriousness you guys, I'm still trying to figure out how no reduction in a departments budget means that you will have to reduce your workforce or other essentials. Is inflation that bad that you cannot continue to operate on your previous year's budget?
Someone lend me a cluebat 'cause I'm not seeing it.
Posted by: polynikes at March 01, 2013 06:50 AM (m2CN7)
Checked the furnace she was sequestratinÂ’
Went out and hopped in my old Ford.
Hit the engine but she ainÂ’t turnin.
WeÂ’ve given each other some sequestration lately
It sure is stinkinÂ’
I blame the damn sequestration. WHAT was I thinkin'
WeÂ’re the same sad story thatÂ’s a fact
One step up and two steps back
Posted by: Bruce Sequestersteen at March 01, 2013 06:50 AM (Xv7f/)
I'm in local government myself. I don't bitch and moan when people whine about lazy entitled government workers. I can pick a dozen employed by my agency right off the top of my head whom if fired would increase total productivity.Posted by: mugiwara at March 01, 2013 10:20 AM (W7ffl)
I'm a fed. (Yes. I said it.)If I lost my job, the government would continue to function. That is simply a fact. What is ALSO a fact is that because this check pays my bills and my rent, I bust my ass for as long as it takes to get the job done. There are three people in my shop (of 9) who come in, open solitaire and don't close it until they leave. They're 14's. When people bitch about government waste, it's those people I think about before I realize that I'm just as useless in the scheme of things.
I hate that the first stable job I've had since I came off of active duty is the only job that will garner wide-spread condemnation from conservatives. I hate more that it's true. I DON'T need to be here for the government to function.
My principles dictate that I quit my job and try to find something in the private sector. My reality (location, rent, etc) dictates that I work as hard as I can in the job that I have.
I think being unemployed makes me a bigger leech than being a federal employee. At least now I'm giving the taxpayers something in return for their investment in me.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 01, 2013 06:50 AM (fwARV)
I guess it never occurred to these government ex-employees that having the worst boss (twice) in the history of the US could jeopardize their future security.
Posted by: Fritz at March 01, 2013 06:53 AM (WM+rJ)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 01, 2013 06:53 AM (Ud5vq)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 01, 2013 06:53 AM (UU0OF)
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 01, 2013 06:53 AM (6WVi+)
If we can get her working on a chicken leg in the same clip, I'd pay to see that.
Oh, I've done that! Exclusive videos, and pictures are available to paid subscribers on my site, hotfreebirthcontrol.net.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 01, 2013 06:54 AM (KESFj)
Posted by: Your local library at March 01, 2013 06:54 AM (MSrqi)
The old deal was that government work involved low pay in exchange for stability. Now people seem surprised that with high pay (and everything else) they are getty instability.
Odd, eh?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at March 01, 2013 06:55 AM (hLRSq)
Don't cry for the pretendian. She just bought her fork-tongued self a $750K condo in the District of Corruption.
Posted by: RushBabe at March 01, 2013 06:55 AM (tQHzJ)
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2013 06:55 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at March 01, 2013 06:55 AM (XvrTA)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 01, 2013 10:53 AM (Ud5vq)
My boss (15) just took a job with another agency. Two other 15s in the shop are shouldering her work and no one's missed a beat.
I suggested - in writing - not hiring a replacement and saving the $250,000 or so (salary+benes) that would have otherwise been spent. I'm pretty sure I got laughed at.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 01, 2013 06:56 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 01, 2013 06:56 AM (Ec6wH)
Hey guy my wife may well be one of the 200,000 wanna know the difference between your superhero SEIU PEU members and my spouse?
When Giggles did not pay her she had to go to work anyway.
I could give three fucks about your "approval" stud.
If conservative and "good" and I feely admit there are good ethical civil servants REALLY gave a shit they'd reform the beast instead they gain by it.
And considering my foster brother is an SES I know exactly what I am saying and have told him as much.
So having hobojerky PhD candidate interruptus angry that I am laughing at the caterwauling of the left and the union types themselves is not tooonerous.
The mules are winning power by demonizing "the evil rich" it is time to make the United States Government Worker every bit the star that the Bankers were made.
They want to play populist games we have populist games to play too....
sorry about your feelings.
You know when Giggles was playing chicken with my wife's wages I don't remember everyone here being up in arms. I liquidated one of our IRAs to have wiggle room and called up Boehner trying to get him to stand tough.
Good luck with your defense of your PhD work, and I am not snarking...don't expect me to have the correct action WRT 87 billion in cuts emotionally held hostage to it.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 06:57 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Your local library at March 01, 2013 06:58 AM (MSrqi)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 01, 2013 06:58 AM (l3vZN)
exactly...
Lieawatha and her enablers the PEUs laugh all the way to the bank...this reduction in rate of growth is a joke...the grimness is a joke....
the whole damn thing is a joke.
Look outside your window if you are in 'flyover country" there's a good chance you see fallow production buildings caused in part by Federal interference....
save your sympathy for them.
Nice catch on her "living amongst the lowly" by the way...thanks.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 06:58 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 10:57 AM (LRFds)
What's an SES?
Posted by: troyriser at March 01, 2013 06:59 AM (vtiE6)
"A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them." -- P.J. O'Rourke
That we now have a country where lots and lots of fools put all their trust in a lot of government and a lot of luck, pretty much sums up the problem.
Posted by: What P.J. said at March 01, 2013 06:59 AM (Xv7f/)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 01, 2013 06:59 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: MikeJ at March 01, 2013 07:00 AM (Us4M2)
Posted by: troyriser at March 01, 2013 10:59 AM
Senior Executive Services. It's the government's equivelant to a Flag officer, created by Jimmy Carter.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 01, 2013 07:01 AM (fwARV)
In other words, our lives suck, and now yours does too.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 01, 2013 07:02 AM (S3fdp)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 01, 2013 07:02 AM (FsUAO)
and not sucking up to you my wife has a civil servant in her office that gets heat from the union because he STAYS off the clock to get mission done...
and the whiner is a double dipper reservist who "wants us paid fair"
I know there's good members amongst y'all hell my brother is one.
The thing is even the DoD grid civil servants are costing the private sector too much....add in civil 'servants" whose entire mission is to fuck the economy...
yeah I am perhaps at times less than precise in my anger but the fact is that there are too many civil "servants" who misspell "servant" as "master"....
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:02 AM (LRFds)
White House spokesman Carney claimed that they had no knowledge of any releases.
Secretary Janet Napolitano claims to have had no knowledge of the releases.
The ploy even has a name: the “idiot defense, “dumb CEO defense,” “dummy defense,” “ostrich defense,” and “Sergeant Schultz defense.”
... and they let these folks "play with guns"
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 01, 2013 07:04 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Jaynie59 at March 01, 2013 07:04 AM (4zKCA)
Posted by: Public parks at March 01, 2013 07:05 AM (MSrqi)
You're right I apologize to all involved, I will never forget the monument to the unemployed the civil servants had at the gate at Fort Polk...the burning eternal flame for the anxieties faced by the private worker....
it was touching....
the contractor is the one getting REALLY hammered not the legacy GS and SES workers.
perspective Hobojerky....
oh wait sorry it is time for another round of "the GOP must look like the Dutch Masters" painting all the time....
Civil Servants want more stability tell your fucking union to back the beter economic leader and back getting EPA under control and aiding US competitiveness beyond "hiring 100,000 teachers."
They cast themselves politically against me not the other way around.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:05 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 11:02 AM (LRFds)
The problem is that even the good federal employees realize they're not really necessary to accomplish the mission.
I'd rather have hard chargers in the government TRYING to make things better than have them all go to the private sector, leaving the unions and douchebags and moochers running the show.
That's been going on for too damn long.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 01, 2013 07:05 AM (fwARV)
The Harvard Crimson rejects any idea of embracing of inclusiveness and diversity.
Posted by: Deep Throat at March 01, 2013 07:06 AM (e8kgV)
Yup...he went that route rather than going after his O-6, because "the pay and benefits are superior and I have regional stability."
I understand and respect that decision but acting like the plight of the senior GS/SES circuit is the most tear worthy thing in creation is not living in reality.
WN I hope you weather the period of anxiety in the ranks well and land on your feet.
sven
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:08 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Sinalco at March 01, 2013 07:08 AM (SsP73)
There are indeed many good government employees now feeling financial pain.
I wish that on none of them.
But, I do not support a concept of the servants of the people being insulated from the financial pain of the people.
And truth be told, there is justa little bit of "F*ck you, see how it feels" involved.
But, just a little.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 01, 2013 07:08 AM (S3fdp)
I don't know the answers. Basically I think when the panic in the Democrat ranks in '94 calmed down they got to work creating this bomb. The PEUs are a defacto money laundering machine for the democrats to create a shakedown carnivore economic thwarting machine.
Failing to acknowledge that is a worse sin than levity IMHO, and I know there are many ciivl servants who are trying to fight the beast of their union.
Keep your head up and to better days.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:10 AM (LRFds)
"Man, I can still hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth as one government program after another was defunded and offices closed. Good times."
//
Listen, as a state employee in the past we took 5% pay cuts 2 or 3 times and delayed paychecks every year around budget negotations. No big. Day off, most of it was taxes and such. I used to say to the whiners, "Count your blessings. There are a thousand people out there who would kiss the ground of your office if they could take your job."
Posted by: PJ at March 01, 2013 07:10 AM (ZWaLo)
My PhD progress is in limbo because of it. Not complaining, but it's not funny.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 01, 2013 10:43 AM (FsUAO)
***
That you are pursuing a Ph.D at all, let alone one that requires the federal government's budget be ever-growing in order to complete it, is what caught my attention.
Posted by: Radeaminnit at March 01, 2013 07:10 AM (Xv7f/)
I think the system corrupts people because there is no competition pressure. imagine...
I have five workers and only have enough work for four of them. I don't wanna lay Bob off cause he's a nice guy and i'll feel bad. Better to just make everyones load 20% lighter then everyone will love me as a boss.
After a while people get used to the new work load and it becomes 'normal'. If things later get busier, they hire a new person rather than increase the workload which would be mean.
The right incentive sigbnls are just not being sent to the employees. Most people will succumb to that over time. death by compassion.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 01, 2013 07:13 AM (SO2Q8)
Fine I hadn't read this I bear you no hard ill will and I am sincere in not liking that your PhD plans are being upheld.
That has got to suck I could not even finish my undergrad happily.
The union is the key, the people really being fired have my sympathy and prayers. The folks who are leveraged trying to keep up with the joneses in that DC slamdance have my empathy it sucks budgeting with these jerks in charge.
The guy who said 'days off and a bill giving us back pay...!"
Yeah guy not feeling the least bit of sorrow for you.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:13 AM (LRFds)
During jury selection, a prospective juror told the judge he could not serve on the jury because it would interfere with his job. "Why?" the judge demanded to know, "Can't your boss get along without you for a few days?"
"He can and that's what I'm afraid of " replied the man " I don't want him to find out."
Posted by: Voir Dire at March 01, 2013 07:15 AM (Xv7f/)
others defined SES for you but it is essentially a civilian shirt "General/Admiral" and there are SEVERAL departments outside the force led by SES that SHOULD be under DoD with the more economical and mission oriented military economics of employment involved.
He's in one of those jobs.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:16 AM (LRFds)
Sheriff Bart new schnitzengruben limit six instead of fifteen.
Lili Von Shtup hardest hit.
"Sequestered Saddles"
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 01, 2013 07:17 AM (qqZuQ)
My friend that is an ATC at Pope Air Force base hears horror stories all the time....
that union was legendary in the 'screw you pay me!' wars...
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:18 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 01, 2013 07:19 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at March 01, 2013 07:21 AM (2Oas0)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 01, 2013 07:29 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Dave in MA***
22 days of work. 1 day a week for 22 weeks. This is a 20% pay cut. Nor are all DOD employees in the VA/DC corridor. Dillhole.
Posted by: Klawnet at March 01, 2013 07:30 AM (ePxxX)
and I was not offering my sympathy saying you did.
I types on the headline thread on the idea of "social pressure" on another topic.
I take no glee in economic pressure but try to keep perspective.
The farmers who were destroyed by EPA and the courts in california would kill to have lost only the % the civil servants keeping their jobs are weathering.
That to me is the fight.
best of luck whether you want me wishing it or not.
I want the horde to succeed.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:30 AM (LRFds)
and your contractor "brothers" and 'sisters" got 100% nuked.
I dunno it has to suck losing 1/5th per annum but as your fellow "union brother" upthread explained...you'll likely get it all back lump-summed....
hell people were acting like I should be gracious that my wife would get her back pay for hours she had to work onsite without pay...
I was so impressed that when Barry won reelection I cashed out some options and have about 3 months pay in the bank to weather giggles next stunt.
I am not trying to be a dick to you and I understand if you don't answer but asking in goodfaith....
Given what SCOAMF was doing with the Military members of your workforce were you not the least bit nervous he'd play chicken with YOU?
Not being preachy I am trying to understand something about civil servant psychology.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:34 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 01, 2013 07:34 AM (FsUAO)
Not after I worked my butt off to move here as a youngster and pull up the damn drawbridge behind me.
F***ing easants. You think Washington Golf & Country Club dues are cheap?
Posted by: J. Moses Browning at March 01, 2013 07:38 AM (LsaEi)
I am very focused on the issue Hobojerky it is the midwesterner in me as well.
I watched the UAW blow up my town's auto sector and my entire region is in decline now.
Dayton Ohio.
I went back after 15 years of minimal presence and had to accept my home peaked in about 1982.
The PEUs are if anything worse and if they have their way there will be nowhere to migrate to here in the US to escape.
That is *my* whole fight now after the cold war in conservatism.
If I offered personal offense I apologize, I feel perhaps being overly generous to myself if you go back and reread the thread we were talking past each other "a bit."
My ire is focused precisely at the bad actors in the union protected class for the most part, although I do feel that because of the nature of the game for the employees that many good decent people who get it gain by the deeds of the bad faith actors.
There needs to be serious reform, and I am angry at the GOP leadership because they bargained away the late 90s gains trying to foster unity during the war's early days.
The GOP needs to be smarter, the TSA for example had in its charter that it was not to be unionized.
They now are, there is no such thing as a binding agreement with a democrat, and soon there may not be able to be a republic with them either for what is a republic but a binding contract between coalitions and the government and the governed?
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 07:42 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 01, 2013 07:43 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 01, 2013 07:43 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 01, 2013 07:51 AM (UU0OF)
Boo. Freaking. Hoo.
Spend a couple of weeks in the dreaded private sector, then get back to me. Parasites.
Posted by: DocJ at March 01, 2013 07:57 AM (A5uiv)
Yeah, well, Uncle Sam only wrote the check for the range support contract I'm on through May. Rumor had been we were going to be cut today, as it is we have a little time.
After that, I am a veteran's unemployment statistic again.
Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at March 01, 2013 07:58 AM (jCQ+I)
Still nothing to report. Maybe it's happening but it's just not visible. Could someone get them to raise the cut to $170B, so I can be sure I don't need glasses?
Posted by: Dusty at March 01, 2013 07:58 AM (KR2Ca)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at March 01, 2013 08:20 AM (1hM1d)
"I feel genuine sorrow for the contractors who are FIRED not furloughed a day a week or month and I KNOW and am friend with some decent civil servants but too many of these same civil servants as a whole refuse to even ponder at their harm to the national economy in their work."
No sympathy for those leeches who get paid very well. If you really knew how the contracting gigs work you would understand that a worker being paid 80K a year is costing the taxpayer 160K -- the defense contractors need their cut as well.
So while you dance around the fire celebrating the gov workers pay cuts, who cost the taxpayer far less ponder your math skills when bowing to the contractors.
The contractors need to talk with their companies about sharing some of the profit they have collected to tide them over during the rough times.
Soup line is probably a few blocks away if they need help....
Posted by: gotmine_gofindyours at March 01, 2013 08:20 AM (LJpVo)
If you can convince the US Govt to cede military control to contract workers I assure you the Horde DoD complex would be thrilled to be able to do their jobs better and in the private sector...
a Private US Army would probably own Mexico...
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 08:22 AM (LRFds)
That friend is a double edged sword in a lot of ways...
the civil servant makes less take home in some cases but has a bulletproof pension, helathcare, and ancillary benefits package....
you want to turn this game into "profit motive evil" let's have that chat...
I am gonna counter battery with the evil of PEUs and the literal gun to the head of the taxpayer civil service unions have....
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 08:24 AM (LRFds)
LOL - Drew is such a dumbass he thinks all federal workers work behind desks inside the Beltway.
News Flash bro - those CIA agents overseas hunting terrorists? Yeah well - THOSE are federal employees, Drew.
Those folks who work morale, welfare, and wellness for our military stationed overseas? Yeah well - THOSE are federal employees, Drew.
Intelligence ships collecting intelligence on nations like Iran and North Korea? Yeah well Drewpie ... those are staffed by a LOT of federal employees.
You may think they get paid too much - you may think that, if they want a high paying job they should get out of dangerous areas and take a courageous job like you, Drew - sitting behind a computer monitor and growing your ass incrementally each day by flooding your gastric system with "Hot Pockets" - the food of CHAMPIONS!
But ... oh well.
Posted by: Krulac at March 01, 2013 08:25 AM (QpXw0)
"the civil servant makes less take home in some cases but has a bulletproof pension, helathcare, and ancillary benefits package...."
Acutally, they pay for the health care plans, their pension is not that much (60K last three years of employment after 30 years service equates to roughly 15K per year).
No matter how you slice it they fall far short of the 160K the contractor costs you.
Posted by: gotmine_gofindyours at March 01, 2013 08:27 AM (/qzu7)
EPA produces sweet fuck all and inasmuch as even ideally it should exist its mission has increased 90 fold...
the AGW cult could not exist without this monster, the civil service has been penetrated or created an unholy and self-feeding fusion between activist cults and its agencies to create a laundering loop for power en perpetual....
that there *are* things within the role of government I will not argue it is self-evident that the government should be trying to be an uninvited "silent partner" that picks and chooses winners and losers in the private sector based on regulatory fiat and rent seeking I can never countenance.
"no"...sorry the whole damn thing is too big.....people are fond of pointing at DoD and the Military and saying 'oh hell yeah there are LOTS of cuts to be made..."
Yes yes there are, and if you think the civil service on the non military side of the house is not if anything even more in need of pruning I have a bridge to sell you.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 08:30 AM (LRFds)
uh not in proportion to the private sector try again...paying in is not self-funding tiger.....
Glad to see we have our union rep here....
My father in law was a civil service retiree and a miltary retiree, my foster family was a civil servant and a librarian for a school.
Please explain to me how the civil service is the best deal out there from an economic standpoint and does not game the system because of its unholy power to self-fund politicians...
no really have at it.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 08:32 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 01, 2013 08:32 AM (EGPJQ)
"Government workers anxious about ... effects of bashing
Boo. Freaking. Hoo"
This, X 10,000. "Empathy" and "concern" and "suffering"??
I've worked w/a number of Federal offices over the years, and I can count on one finger the # of times said units have expressed any of the above for those who pay their bills.
If that sounds "bitter" or "hateful" to you, then, in all seriousness, know this: I don't care.
It's well past time for the leviathan to be attacked, hacked, and cut to size. If that means that some cannot rely on it for income, so be it.
Posted by: Jess1 at March 01, 2013 08:32 AM (lbiWb)
and the nation would probably be better served reducing the size of DHS and the Intel corporation to a degree and putting those bodies in military shirts.....
nobody is denying the service a goodly portion of the civil service, they are however not wrong in pointing out the unholy machine that has been created where the very mechanism of our nation's governmental business the larger she gets the more she empowers the democrat party.
This nation deserves better than the Chinese Dynastic Eunuchs or mandarins thanks.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 08:35 AM (LRFds)
there are good people in that maze...
but it is time that "we little people" demand that those good poeple either aid the reform of that beast or help us wreck it and start over.
The Peggy Joseph hayride should end...
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 08:36 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: non-federal employee at March 01, 2013 08:46 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Talibill at March 01, 2013 08:48 AM (qk/nQ)
"My father in law was a civil service retiree and a miltary retiree, my foster family was a civil servant and a librarian for a school."
We should be nix their retirement immediately as a prudent cost saving measure. After they are just gov workers and padded their nest their entire career. right? He will do fine with his mil retirement as the only income.
Posted by: gotmine_gofindyours at March 01, 2013 08:56 AM (OJn3e)
yes of course that is what I was saying?
No but I assure you I KNOW you shed not a single tear when they altered Mil retirement to high three and are now discussing gutting it whole.
Honor the contracts sure but reform the game because for a civil service doing GREAT evil in the name of sustainability such as EPA it sure doesn't give a shit about its sustainability.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 09:00 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 09:00 AM (LRFds)
Check out the labor participation % sometime....
yeah I am betting a LOT of federal jobs could be underbid...
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 09:01 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: usps at March 01, 2013 09:01 AM (qaVK+)
"No but I assure you I KNOW you shed not a single tear when they altered Mil retirement to high three and are now discussing gutting it whole.
"
I came in a year after they changed it to high three -- missed the cut by 11 months I think. 26 years later when I retired I still wasn't thrilled about that. I'd rethink what you think you know....
Posted by: gotmine_gofindyours at March 01, 2013 09:05 AM (LJpVo)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U.S._research_funding.png
Oh dear look at that growth!!! (I was funded by NSF btw, the not growing $5 B red chunk.)
Posted by: HoboJerky,
***
No single raindrop believes itself responsible for the flood.
Posted by: Radeaminnit at March 01, 2013 09:18 AM (Xv7f/)
Quite I've seen your comments before...the civil service must of course be immune to changes in the economic condition of the country and i am certain is held by you to be compelled to empower the people who grow their ranks creating a feedback loop...
nope sorry.
Yeah honor your guys' retirement contracts...but as the military has had its retirement mangled 3 times already and is under pressure so to should the civil service face the same.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 09:21 AM (LRFds)
" to empower the people who grow their ranks creating a feedback loop."
Sounds good in a manifesto type document but ignores your role in unsuccessfully persuading enough citizens to vote in officials who will really change the system.
Posted by: gotmine_gofindyours at March 01, 2013 09:33 AM (/qzu7)
77Need some Moron financial advice
I advise investing in other precious metals....ie; Brass & Copper-Jacketed Lead .
Posted by: gaseous clay at March 01, 2013 09:35 AM (zC3zB)
Posted by: Dave in MA at March 01, 2013 09:59 AM (zsPnE)
#336,
The 22 days will be taken over a 5 month period ending in Sep. Then we go into a new FY and unknown territory re further sequestration measures.
But since 10% is not that much I appreciate you offering ten percent of your income to help out the disadvantaged....
Posted by: gotmine_gofindyours at March 01, 2013 10:51 AM (v6cwT)
yeah because I am sure this time it'll stick and you guys won't get backpay
hey where's my fiddle I'll help you learn to sing country music
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 10:56 AM (LRFds)
Federal Worker Mother: Please Help!!! My children wont be able to go to private school, I will have to shop at Walmart or the Dollar Store, I will have to vacation in the US and stay at a Motel 6 and GOD forbid I will have to buy my coffee from McDonalds or drink Folgers.
Sally: See these poor federal workers and children (Pan camera showing their children eating some processed non-organic fatty food (government USDA cheese is good, children must not be seen wearing A&F or Hollister clothing) and mother standing looking at the kids in horror and father sitting in his BMW with only a quarter tank of gas).
Federal Worker Mother: I don't know how my children will be able to live. I have to send them to public schools and I can't afford to feed them wholesome, organic, local farm grown produce that doesn't destroy the environment, but now I must feed them with food that comes from corporate, earth destroying places. And their clothes. They come from WALMART!!!! (Mother Wails) I don't know what their future will be like.
Sally: (Tear comes down the face). If you can donate a little to help these poor federal workers, so they can be just like you. For only $500/day, you can help feed one federal worker family healthy, local farm grown food, clothe them in proper clothing and send their kids to private school.
Federal Worker Father: I used to be able to fill my BMW up and use Super Premium gas, but now I have to use regular unleaded, but my BMW needs Super Premium. (Father breaks into unconsolable tears).
Sally: Don't let them suffer so.....Please Help!!! With your tax deductable contribution of $500/day, you can give this federal worker family peace of mind knowing that they wont have to struggle to get the proper food, clothing, and private education that they are entitled.
(Commerical Ends)
Posted by: Will at March 01, 2013 10:57 AM (xvpvb)
and sorta sidesteps your as a union member's power to change the goddamend money cannon...
I get it you give as much a fuck about the monster as i do about your plight...
so here we sit.
have a day
Posted by: sven10077 at March 01, 2013 10:57 AM (LRFds)
So, the realities of the sequester, for me and my coworkers: One furlough day for each week of the sequestration. That's a 20% cut in pay. Fact: the court's budget has been cut, not a decrease in the increase, but a real cut, for three years running. They've let go of 15% of our personnel and our pay has been frozen for three years. The sight of that GSA creep boozing it up in Vegas made me and all my coworkers sick.
Please recognize that there are some legitimate functions of the federal government. I hope you can respect those of us who know who we serve, and I hope you know that we respect that service to our core.
Posted by: just a clerk at March 01, 2013 09:16 PM (oPZUC)
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