September 30, 2013
— Ace At Politico.
It's, yes, all about politics.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has been the most ardent proponent of President Barack Obama taking a hard line with House Republicans in the latest fiscal crisis engulfing Washington.And so far, Reid is getting his way.
When the president considered sitting down with the four congressional leaders in the White House ahead of the deadline to avert a government shutdown, Reid privately urged Obama to call off the meeting, according to several people familiar with the situation. Reid believed that it would amount to nothing more than a photo-op that would give the false impression that a serious negotiation was occurring, even warning he wouldnÂ’t attend such a session. Obama scrapped it.
As Washington barrels forward to the first government shutdown in 17 years on Tuesday, the wily Reid has taken the lead role in pushing a hardball Democratic legislative strategy that can be summed up like this: Make the Republicans cave.
“He’s been the rock … and he’s had our whole caucus behind him,” said Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), a close Reid ally who spoke with the majority leader nine times on Saturday afternoon.
Note that despite conceding the obvious -- that Reid, proudly, refuses to compromise, and that he does so for a partisan purpose -- Politico reports on this quite neutrally, apart from the times it's outright praising Reid for his "wiliness."
I've written a lot about supposedly Neutral Story Lines. These are storylines which have the superficial appearance of ideological neutrality -- "compromise" does not have a particular ideological bent -- and yet are deployed in a strictly partisan fashion by the media.
Yes, praising compromise and attacking those who refuse to is, on the surface, a non-ideological take.
But let's look beyond the surface. Let's look when the "Compromise Is Bad" storyline is deployed -- It is only deployed when conservatives are standing firm.
Meanwhile, Reid's partisan hardline stance is called "wily" and another Democrat is quoted to call him "our rock."
On its face the storyline is Neutral. But only on its face. Because the media that attacks Cruz for his "purism" and "unwillingness to compromise" will turn around the very next day and laud Harry Reid for exactly the same thing.
It should be noted this distinction is familiar to any lawyer or jurist. A law may be facially neutral vis-a-vis things it is required to be neutral about (race, political speech), but if it can be struck down as discriminatory as applied.
Almost all of the media's beloved Neutral Story Lines are in this second category -- facially neutral, discriminatory as applied. A court would strike down the media's "Neutral Story Lines" as odious and a fraud on the public, were it empowered to rule on such matters.
I repeat my eternal question: Why is the first, second, and last utterance of an industry supposedly devoted to The Truth always a noxious lie?
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Posted by: ACME Congressional Products, Inc at September 30, 2013 10:46 AM (YVx8A)
Posted by: EC at September 30, 2013 10:47 AM (GQ8sn)
NYPD is hunting for 2 mystery parachuters who landed in Lower Manhattan and vanished http://nyp.st/17kc976
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 10:47 AM (8sCoq)
Meanwhile, Reid's partisan hardline stance is called "wily" and another Democrat is quoted to call him "our rock."
A ringing endorsement indeed from Chuck "Fuck" Schumer.
I mean how grotesque is that? Who do you call your "rock" in every day life? A husband or wife? A parent? A close sibling or friend? Who the hell calls their colleague or co-worker their "rock?" It's disturbingly intimate in this situation.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 30, 2013 10:47 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: AmishDude at September 30, 2013 10:48 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 10:48 AM (8sCoq)
Sadly our most infamous native.
Posted by: Searchlight, Nevada at September 30, 2013 10:48 AM (/1ATA)
Posted by: EC at September 30, 2013 02:47 PM (GQ8sn)
Nazi PeloKKKi has got to be pretty close.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 30, 2013 10:48 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2013 10:48 AM (1RQeV)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 30, 2013 10:48 AM (4p5/2)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2013 10:48 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Ma Bell at September 30, 2013 10:49 AM (RLdcX)
I will compromise with Iran.
I will compromise with Syria.
FUCK THOSE REPUBLICAN TERRORISTY, ARSONY, KIDNAPPY BASTARDS.
Posted by: Barack Obama, Compromiser-in Chief, sometimes at September 30, 2013 10:49 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 30, 2013 10:49 AM (E8hSa)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 30, 2013 10:49 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: nip at September 30, 2013 10:50 AM (jI23+)
Chuck Schumer and Dick Durbin.
And many many more, of course.
***
Schmucky and Turbin may be tied but I couldn't say they that they were more loathsome.
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 30, 2013 10:50 AM (XUKZU)
Let's see.... Hitler, Stalin, Mao.... no.
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 10:50 AM (8sCoq)
MFM: That's retarded, sir.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 30, 2013 10:50 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 10:51 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at September 30, 2013 10:51 AM (/wgO3)
I will compromise with Iran.
I will compromise with Syria.
FUCK THOSE REPUBLICAN TERRORISTY, ARSONY, KIDNAPPY BASTARDS.
***
And don't forget
Nidal Hassan: Not a terrorist.
Ted Cruz: Terrorist.
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 30, 2013 10:51 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: McAdams at September 30, 2013 10:51 AM (xWRxt)
Posted by: Mainah at September 30, 2013 10:51 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2013 10:51 AM (1RQeV)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 30, 2013 10:51 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: AmishDude at September 30, 2013 10:51 AM (T0NGe)
A court would strike down the media's "Neutral Story Lines" as odious and a fraud on the public, were it empowered to rule on such matters.
Provided that the court wasn't the 9th Circuit, and that John Roberts couldn't conceivably get away with calling the MFM's idea of "neutrality" a tax.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 30, 2013 10:52 AM (4df7R)
>>>Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), a close Reid ally who spoke with the majority leader nine times on Saturday afternoon
Don't call him Wormtongue for nuthin'.
Posted by: Bigby's Itchy Fingers at September 30, 2013 10:52 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Ma Bell at September 30, 2013 10:52 AM (RLdcX)
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at September 30, 2013 10:53 AM (rXcBX)
Where else do you go when you can't hack Fiddle Studies?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 30, 2013 10:53 AM (/kI1Q)
Don't forget Debbie Was-A-Man-Schultz.
And the head of Planned Genocide tweeted over the weekend that if the government shuts down women will have no access to birth control at all and it'll be a return to 1950.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 30, 2013 10:53 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 30, 2013 10:53 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2013 10:53 AM (1RQeV)
Posted by: AmishDude at September 30, 2013 10:54 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Czar Peter at September 30, 2013 10:54 AM (hMQKI)
Been saying that about software for a long time but I think you get a gold star for making it a universal axiom.
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget[/i] at September 30, 2013 10:54 AM (epxV4)
Nah. Putin is crafty. Reid isn't. There's no cunning strategy here. He knows he can spout a bunch of bullshit and he's not going to get called on it by the media (just like in the Romney taxes situation).
Posted by: Xander Crews at September 30, 2013 10:54 AM (SUbHR)
Posted by: AmishDude at September 30, 2013 10:54 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2013 10:54 AM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2013 10:55 AM (1RQeV)
I mean how grotesque is that? Who do you call your "rock" in every day life? A husband or wife? A parent? A close sibling or friend? Who the hell calls their colleague or co-worker their "rock?" It's disturbingly intimate in this situation.
I was thinking more of Reid's intellect, as in "smart as a box full of," but that's just me.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 30, 2013 10:55 AM (0HooB)
Which is why I abandoned Politico for information almost the instant it was formed. Their heritage is WaPo stock. That is truly all one needs to know.
It's an outfit whose links/content I won't follow. Sure, one need acknowledge that a certain population will follow it just like a population still follows the MFM; but at least my personal knowledgebase isn't being contaminated.
But Gell-Mann Effect and all intrudes. And that's the best it can do. Consider how so much of its mistakes really aren't.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 30, 2013 10:56 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2013 10:56 AM (1RQeV)
Posted by: tofer732 at September 30, 2013 10:56 AM (z3MpN)
Yep. The 'everyone into the pool' option.
The unions and the government workers KNOW that Obamacare is a half-melted turd sundae. They're more than happy to force the rest of us to eat it as long as they don't have to.
Force the unions and the government workers to chow down on it too, and the chorus of voices for immediate repeal will grow hugely, pretty much overnight.
And, the polls show huge outrage among the general public over the whole special waivers for favored groups question.
Politically, 'everyone into the pool' is pretty much a can't lose for the GOP, and it's impossible to defend for Democrats. "Hey, they said they wanted this. Now they don't. OK, let's call the whole thing off."
Posted by: torquewrench at September 30, 2013 10:57 AM (gqT4g)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/r78bmc
Posted by: joncelli at September 30, 2013 10:57 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2013 02:54 PM (QF8uk)
Is Walter Cronkite dead yet? If not, why not? Isn't he old enough to be Vic's grandfather?
Fuck him in his withered fuckhole. Never met a commie dickface he didn't like. *SPIT*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 30, 2013 10:57 AM (4df7R)
Even when the money runs out (Detroit!), keeping political power is only about keeping the power to secure the last remaining dollars.
If you want to say it's about being a celebrity, it's still about the money.
Altruism, ideology, it's about the money.
Posted by: Lewis Analytics LLC at September 30, 2013 10:58 AM (0tf8k)
Posted by: Mr. Mean at September 30, 2013 10:58 AM (Tlix5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 30, 2013 10:58 AM (qyfb5)
>>>>Cloward and Piven. Bankruptcy *is* the plan of the left.
But it won't work because the Republicans will be the tax collectors for the Left like alw-
ooh, now I see....
Posted by: Bigby's Itchy Fingers at September 30, 2013 10:58 AM (3ZtZW)
Now would be a good time to call Boehner's office and tell him to hold the course and that we approve.
I know, I know, it's not the best plan of action, but, at least it's putting the dems on the spot.
Might want to call McConnell's office too and tell him not to be such a pussy.
Posted by: Soona at September 30, 2013 10:59 AM (gURHd)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 30, 2013 10:59 AM (DmNpO)
>>Why is the first, second, and last utterance of an industry supposedly devoted to The Truth always a noxious lie?<<
Because their Truth is lying.
Posted by: MacGruber at September 30, 2013 10:59 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 30, 2013 10:59 AM (DmNpO)
send it back
shut it down
stop giving the press that much power
if it shuts down they will interview Cruz and the rest. They will get heard. They sky will not fall.
lets do this
Posted by: thunderb at September 30, 2013 10:59 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Jmel at September 30, 2013 11:00 AM (cfFqn)
Because we don't hang enough of them?
Posted by: mrShad at September 30, 2013 11:00 AM (C5V36)
If you were in Harry Reid's shoes, why would you do any different?
The divisions within the GOP have become very public. If Republicans are forced (by public opinion) to cave, those divisions get even wider.
Politically it's little skin off Reid or Obama's back if there's a shutdown. Those most greatly affected are already inclined to side with the Dems.
And before anyone says "He's supposed to do what's best for the country", allow me a hearty LOL.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 30, 2013 11:00 AM (SY2Kh)
>>Why is the first, second, and last utterance of an industry supposedly devoted to The Truth always a noxious lie?<<
"It's not a lie if you really BELIEVE it."
-Postmodernist asswarts, aka the left
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 30, 2013 11:00 AM (4df7R)
@ChadPergram Reid: Give it a little bit of time and Obamacare is going to be supported by 90 percent of the people, just like Medicare #fnpolitics
@JonahNRO No we aren't. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/359652/opposing-obamacare-isnt-anarchy-jonah-goldberg Â… RT @politicoroger Majority Leader Reid: "We are talking about anarchy. They hate government."
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 30, 2013 11:00 AM (YjDyJ)
The bill to fund the Military is separate from the main funding bill. They have NOT voted on the Military bill as of yet
They'll kill that later on once the media is focused laser like on how obstructionist the House is.
Posted by: Your Immaculate Leader, The Preezy, Barky Obumbles at September 30, 2013 11:00 AM (0IhFx)
"And so far, Reid is getting his way."
Really?
As so far, the Tea Partiers (and a vast majority of Americans) are also getting it their way: SCOAMF-care is unfunded.
Posted by: Carlos F. Danger at September 30, 2013 11:00 AM (qxcKC)
Posted by: Havedash at September 30, 2013 11:01 AM (F0WNa)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2013 11:01 AM (1RQeV)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 30, 2013 11:01 AM (da5Wo)
Jesus? Which make this usage that much more creepy.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 30, 2013 11:01 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 30, 2013 11:01 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 30, 2013 03:00 PM (SY2Kh)
I don't think any of us expect Reid to act any differently. Our sole concern is with how the 'Pubbies respond.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 30, 2013 11:01 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: thunderb at September 30, 2013 11:02 AM (zOTsN)
The Everyone Into the Pool Bill: no person, group, entity or association shall be exempt from the ACA. This is to include all government employees.
Then watch the squirming on the left.
*Foghorn Leghorn voice*
"Why, my good man, you seem to want to have one law for yourself and another law for the good people of America. Why don't you explain that to the people?"
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 30, 2013 11:02 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 30, 2013 11:02 AM (/Crba)
Bosnia and Libya were noble efforts that had no need for Congressional approval or UN input. And even though no specific threat or national interest could be stated, the military actions were necessary.
Iraq and Afghanistan required extended debate and approval by Congress as well as input and approval by the UN. Even though the threat was clear as they were the bases for direct attacks on America and the national interests were obvious, the military actions were questionable.
Posted by: polynikes at September 30, 2013 11:02 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 11:03 AM (JaA49)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 30, 2013 11:03 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at September 30, 2013 11:03 AM (k3t+5)
Because they're not quite as devoted to The Truth as they'd like us to believe.
Posted by: tsj017 at September 30, 2013 11:03 AM (4YUWF)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2013 11:04 AM (QF8uk)
Look at Al Qaeda and Al Nusra, Putin! Iran Funding Terrorists!!
But sorry Poor people we Won't compromise and Fund Your EBT or old people SS or Military families!
isn't this how They do it?
let's Do it!
Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 11:04 AM (nqBYe)
Who the hell calls their colleague or co-worker their "rock?"
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 30, 2013 03:01 PM (/kI1Q)
True. On all counts.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 30, 2013 11:04 AM (4df7R)
That is, to be sure, one reason why liberals hate shutdowns, and talk about shutdowns as The Worst Thing Ever In All Of Human History.
The experience of going through a shutdown makes it clear to millions of ordinary citizens that many or most of the operations of government really are not essential for the continuance of normal daily life. Refuting a central tenet of liberalism.
"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"
Posted by: torquewrench at September 30, 2013 11:04 AM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 30, 2013 11:04 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 30, 2013 11:04 AM (Zswg6)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 11:05 AM (8sCoq)
what. would. you. do.
Posted by: thunderb at September 30, 2013 03:03 PM (zOTsN)
Bitch about those that try to stop the train.
Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 11:05 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 30, 2013 11:05 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2013 11:06 AM (1RQeV)
Posted by: TommyVee at September 30, 2013 03:01 PM (ueDGU)
You have much to learn about the free market and capitalism as well as what the Constitution provides and does not provide. Discussing the matter with you at this time would like trying to discuss calculus with a 2nd grader.
And by you , I mean every other lefty troll that copies and pastes crap from today's talking points. The parrot says what it knows but does not know what it says.
Posted by: polynikes at September 30, 2013 11:06 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 30, 2013 11:06 AM (9cjF1)
Posted by: thunderb at September 30, 2013 11:06 AM (zOTsN)
by shooting him 4 times
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 03:05 PM (8sCoq)
Well, they did stop him.
Posted by: EC at September 30, 2013 11:06 AM (GQ8sn)
More information - http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2013/09/hidden-jaguar.html
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 11:06 AM (JaA49)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 30, 2013 11:07 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: knowledge is power at September 30, 2013 11:07 AM (Nx76m)
by shooting him 4 times
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 03:05 PM (8sCoq)
Showing him how it's done.
Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at September 30, 2013 11:07 AM (p7BzH)
Posted by: TommyVee
Category error and strawman.
No conservatives are calling for the regulation of media to correct any bias.
Further, Fox News demonstrates the errors of the MSM outlets obsession with left-leaning reporting.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 30, 2013 11:07 AM (ligos)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 30, 2013 11:07 AM (IN7k+)
Posted by: fastfreefall at September 30, 2013 11:07 AM (qnIhA)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 30, 2013 11:07 AM (/Crba)
"Perhaps the media reports Reid's "no compromise" differently because the normal compromise of legislative give and take is very different from compromising with extremist threats to damage the US and global economies. If Republican partisans do not understand the difference between negotiation and extortion"
"extremist threats"
"extortion"
GFY
Posted by: Beagle at September 30, 2013 11:07 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 30, 2013 11:07 AM (GjYxB)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 30, 2013 11:07 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: that guy that doesn't read all the comments at September 30, 2013 11:08 AM (evdj2)
>>>Bitch about those that try to stop the train.
WTF everyone knows you hafta pull that cordy thing to do an emergency stop
ooh, nevermind now I get it
Posted by: Bigby's Itchy Fingers at September 30, 2013 11:08 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: backhoe at September 30, 2013 11:08 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2013 11:09 AM (QF8uk)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 30, 2013 11:09 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 30, 2013 11:09 AM (u0HjB)
The main issue is the tarnished, even marred image of the GOP is pretty much unrecoverable. Its almost to the level of letting it go the way of the Whigs, and getting something else. But, all the RINOs would flock to that, and crap on the carpets.
So, we are stuck, with the Leftists, and our own Leftists -lites, weathering out one storm, waiting for the mammoth pending one...
Posted by: fred zeppelin at September 30, 2013 11:10 AM (zL/eJ)
what. would. you. do.
You mean if I were Harry Reid? Pretty much what he's doing now.
If I were running the GOP strategy? I don't know anymore. They (both the "Establishment" and the young conservative factions) have painted themselves in such a corner that I honestly don't know how they come out of this with anything remotely resembling a win.
At this point I guess I'd grandstand as loudly as possible and settle for some kind of minor, face-saving concession after a brief shutdown.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 30, 2013 11:10 AM (SY2Kh)
http://tinyurl.com/kqc6zzk
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 30, 2013 03:07 PM (da5Wo)
*SHUDDER* Oh yes, I remember seeing that. That's... "profane" isn't a strong enough word. Nor is blasphemous.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 30, 2013 11:10 AM (4df7R)
Lord, I would require anti-nausea meds. Intravenously. With a side of Val-U-Rite.
I can only imagine how preeningly self-congratulatory Uncle Walter is about how he declared the Tet Offensive to be proof that America was "mired in stalemate" in Vietnam.
Whereas a few years after the war, the North Vietnamese military leaders began to speak openly in public to Western reporters and analysts, and they fessed up that Tet had instead been a huge catastrophe for them. The media idiots like Cronkite had it all wrong.
One reason why Nixon after 1968 was able to implement "Vietnamization" and draw down U.S. forces was because the Communists had taken such a hugely unexpected shellacking during Tet. They admitted that it took until 1972 for them to build up enough combat capability to really mount serious operations against the South again.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 30, 2013 11:10 AM (gqT4g)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2013 11:11 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: TommyVee at September 30, 2013 03:01 PM (ueDGU)
Because corporations are composed of humans. Maybe you haven't noticed that little fact.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Get Your supplies for Opening Day of RINO Season here! at September 30, 2013 11:11 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Fritz at September 30, 2013 11:11 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Havedash at September 30, 2013 11:11 AM (F0WNa)
Because the market is distorted. All the news organizations are composed top-to-bottom of J-school grads who couldn't hack it in an intellectually rigorous field who want to "change the world". So to a large extent the ratings and other market-forces inputs don't matter; anyone you replace your Democrat shill newsreader with is likely to also be a Democrat shill, and your competition is all Democrat shills too. They all get the same emails from Journolist 2.0, Media Matters, OFA, the White House, and the DNC, and they all put the same spin on things.
Now, if you *do* look at the market inputs, there's a very obvious preference for networks perceived as not Democrat shills: the ratings reliably show Fox orders of magnitude ahead in most time slots, such that reruns of O'Reilly routinely beat first-run MSNBC and CNN programming. Normally that'd be cause for firing or at least retooling, but the rich plutocrats who run the networks are largely willing to play footsie with Democrats in hopes of joining the nomenklatura in our neo-feudalist future. So they don't mind losing a little pocket change now in order to be a Friend of the Revolution later.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 30, 2013 11:12 AM (B/VB5)
This type of media narrative is the exact reason why the attempts to use the media to blame the Democrats are so damn pointless. When 90% of the media votes for the Democratic Party, it is stupid to believe that you can somehow win a narrative war over who is to blame. For the next month, we will be hearing how the Republicans did this and that to the economy, how they don't care about thousands of government workers etc. It is going to be a fucking replay of 1996. Obama has an approval rating in the low 40s(if you discount the ridiculous Rasmussen polls showing him at 51% approval). Why in the fuck would the Republican Party do something that will only energize him and his supporters and make the public consider him the reasonable one when his approval is so low? We are going to go from stories about how he was already a lame-duck to bullshit how he is the "comeback kid" over a fight that will, in the end, do nothing to stop Obamacare.
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at September 30, 2013 11:12 AM (9PYcd)
hollopoint you have loudly proclaimed at every opportunity how the dems are doing it right
of course I meant what would you do if you were leading the GOP. You have no idea, because you are a dem. Regardless of what you tell people, or even yourself, that is your belief system
you cant talk about what you do not know or understand. that's why you only criticize, but never have any answer
Posted by: thunderb at September 30, 2013 11:12 AM (zOTsN)
see, that's where you went wrong
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 11:13 AM (8sCoq)
dem spouse, I want full funding of everything i want , tough shit if we go bankrupt! I'll let You worry about that, Do something to fix it! just give me what i want Now! or I will drag your name through the Papers and Tell everyone how you Hate our children and Wouldn't feed them, because. i . can. lol.
Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 11:13 AM (nqBYe)
Why shouldn't he wait for Boner to cave? He's done that every time before.
Posted by: Vic at September 30, 2013 11:13 AM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 30, 2013 11:13 AM (/Crba)
Just think, people. Three years and three months more of this. Even if we win in 2014, it only means more oppression through administrative fiat.
I'm really starting to wonder if this nation will actually survive this.
Posted by: Soona at September 30, 2013 11:14 AM (gURHd)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2013 11:14 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2013 11:14 AM (QF8uk)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 30, 2013 11:14 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 11:14 AM (JaA49)
There's a lot about tax law you don't know, and I'm just the person to keep everyone ignorant.
Posted by: Injustice Roberts at September 30, 2013 11:14 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 30, 2013 11:15 AM (/PCJa)
I was unaware that there was a law forcing Americans to buy a tv.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2013 03:11 PM (g1DWB)
Buy health care?
i thought it was Free!
Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 11:15 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: The Piss-Yellow Coward John Roberts[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 30, 2013 11:15 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 30, 2013 11:15 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 30, 2013 11:16 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 30, 2013 11:16 AM (a4Omg)
Hollowpoint - the small concesssion should be the 1 year delay in implementation of the ACA and removing the subsidies for Congressional staff.
I am not even sure they can abolish the medical devices tax without repeal of the ACA, since the tax would be used to fund the ACA.
Posted by: tofer732 at September 30, 2013 11:16 AM (z3MpN)
Posted by: Harry Reid at September 30, 2013 11:16 AM (/PCJa)
Really ratcheting up the rhetoric.
Posted by: knowledge is power at September 30, 2013 11:16 AM (Nx76m)
Sebelius says that people can go online and by health insurance like they buy a tv.
And how many people out there in the Great Unwashed Masses don't even realize they have to buy it?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 30, 2013 11:16 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2013 03:11 PM (g1DWB)
It's a tax!
Posted by: The Piss-Yellow Coward John Roberts at September 30, 2013 03:15 PM (qyfb5)
For Some people!
Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 11:16 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 11:16 AM (JaA49)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2013 03:11 PM (g1DWB)
Secretary Syphilis is such a BSer
Posted by: Rurik the Damned at September 30, 2013 11:17 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Czar Peter at September 30, 2013 11:17 AM (hMQKI)
Posted by: thunderb at September 30, 2013 11:17 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 30, 2013 03:16 PM (DmNpO)
Caving is in the script, he's supposed to cave.
Posted by: powerful democrat spinners at September 30, 2013 11:17 AM (Nx76m)
dem spouse, I want full funding of everything i want , tough shit if we go bankrupt! I'll let You worry about that, Do something to fix it! just give me what i want Now! or I will drag your name through the Papers and Tell everyone how you Hate our children and Wouldn't feed them, because. i . can. lol.
***
LOL and crying.
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 30, 2013 11:18 AM (XUKZU)
Reid, Pelosi, et al will someday die.
I'm convinced that McCain will find away to live forever and (get perpetually reelected) just to stick his thumb in our eyes for the rest of time just because of 2000.
Posted by: Shoot Me at September 30, 2013 11:18 AM (qiXMt)
Conservative groups advising Americans not to sign up for the Obamacare
exchanges “are guilty of murder,” according to Maine independent Sen.
Angus King.http://tinyurl.com/n5kzg9t
See, this is why all of you should help me buy land in Maine. Then we can turn Maine into a conservative sanctuary and kick out all the commie asshats like this douche. Maine and New Hampshire together would be a sizeable chunk of New England real estate on which to stage a comeback against the blue state bastards.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 30, 2013 11:18 AM (4df7R)
you're late
see #28
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 11:18 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 30, 2013 11:19 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 30, 2013 11:19 AM (qyfb5)
Is there any truth to that or is it actually a fact?
Posted by: Jaws at September 30, 2013 11:19 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2013 11:19 AM (QF8uk)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 30, 2013 11:19 AM (0HooB)
Conservative groups advising Americans not to sign up for the Obamacare
exchanges “are guilty of murder,” according to Maine independent Sen.
Angus King.http://tinyurl.com/n5kzg9t
Really ratcheting up the rhetoric.
Posted by: knowledge is power at September 30, 2013 03:16 PM (Nx76m)
you know, if a Republican said this...
Posted by: tofer732 at September 30, 2013 11:20 AM (z3MpN)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 30, 2013 11:20 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 30, 2013 11:20 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at September 30, 2013 03:19 PM (qyfb5)
lol i used spouse for a reason, (i went through a divorce)
Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 11:20 AM (nqBYe)
Boehner ain't got a full spine but the two or three vertebrae he recently found will enable him to shut down the "non-essential" government functions for a few hours. After that, epic cave in as usual.
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget[/i] at September 30, 2013 11:20 AM (epxV4)
I'm thinking of a couple of recent "Wheeler Dealers" episodes where they had to replace the entire chassis (British-made cars in all cases IIRC too). Of course, if they actually charged the equivalent value of Edd's labor to the budget on those shows that kind of job would be astronomical.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 30, 2013 11:21 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 11:21 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 30, 2013 11:21 AM (a4Omg)
Posted by: Aunt56141 at September 30, 2013 11:22 AM (wcb4h)
>>>Conservative groups advising Americans not to sign up for the Obamacare
exchanges “are guilty of murder,”
So they're admitting now that they'll send SWAT teams to your door if you don't comply? Thought so.
I bet the cops will do it gladly, too.
Posted by: Bigby's Itchy Fingers at September 30, 2013 11:22 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 30, 2013 11:23 AM (4df7R)
exchanges “are guilty of murder,” according to Maine independent Sen.
Angus King.
And yet, King is a well known aficionado of Crush Porn.
Posted by: that guy from the internet at September 30, 2013 11:23 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 30, 2013 11:23 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 30, 2013 11:23 AM (qyfb5)
loled, couldn't even read the article. What, is he kidding?
Posted by: powerful democrat spinners at September 30, 2013 11:24 AM (Nx76m)
Posted by: Iblis at September 30, 2013 11:24 AM (9221z)
Maybe. That might be a little too 'inside baseball' for the LIV crowd though.
Politically it would be difficult for the Dems to defend shutting down the government over their own perks.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 30, 2013 11:24 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 30, 2013 11:24 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 11:25 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: TommyVee at September 30, 2013 03:01 PM (ueDGU)
Full Faith and Credit of the US Government on a continuing resolution to further raise the credit limit because the credit card got maxed again?
Tommy, go home and get your fuckin' shine box
Posted by: Billy Batts at September 30, 2013 11:25 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 30, 2013 11:26 AM (aDwsi)
Full Faith and Credit of the US Government on a continuing resolution to further raise the credit limit because the credit card got maxed again?
Tommy, go home and get your fuckin' shine box
Posted by: Billy Batts at September 30, 2013 03:25 PM (aTXUx)
*snigger!*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 30, 2013 11:26 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 11:26 AM (nqBYe)
well, you expected a 'news story' from Politico?
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 11:27 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 30, 2013 11:27 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Phelps at September 30, 2013 11:28 AM (1nFun)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 30, 2013 11:28 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 11:28 AM (JaA49)
I've heard around the water cooler that Harry Reid is a bit of a pederast.
I've heard totes a pederast.
Posted by: Armando at September 30, 2013 11:29 AM (5iuEW)
GOP Messaging Spokesperson: Nuh-uh.
Posted by: Fritz at September 30, 2013 11:29 AM (UzPAd)
I don't think many people on our side get what Harry Reid is trying to do. It's the same thing he has been trying to do since the Republicans took over the House in 2010.
He is trying to force an irreparable split in the Republican Party.
Now why would someone confident of his own party's leadership be so obsessed with splitting the other party?
And why would the other party be so ready to do exactly what Harry Reid wants it to do - the ONLY thing that can keep him in power?
When Republicans united on the debt ceiling in 2011, they won.
We seem determined to push the splitting now. Why? All this does is help Harry Reid.
Posted by: rockmom at September 30, 2013 11:29 AM (NYnoe)
of course I meant what would you do if you were leading the GOP. You have no idea, because you are a dem. Regardless of what you tell people, or even yourself, that is your belief system
Thank you for your very valuable contribution to this thread, Little Miss 'Too dumb to consider the enemy's options'.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 30, 2013 11:29 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: nip at September 30, 2013 02:50 PM (jI23+)
At least according my (very Protestant) beliefs, yes, Satan is a person if by 'person' you include sentient non-human beings, such as fallen angels. If it helps, I doubt even he likes Harry Reid that much, either. The Prince of Darkness probably considers Reid a useful business associate, not a friend, and would be embarrassed to be seen with him in public. I mean, even the Devil has standards.
Posted by: troyriser at September 30, 2013 11:29 AM (V9ol4)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 30, 2013 11:29 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at September 30, 2013 11:30 AM (VtjlW)
More information - http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2013/09/hidden-jaguar.html
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 03:06 PM
I could see a lot of rust in the usual places, especially where panels joined
It would probably need to be stripped, dipped, and who knows how much filler is under that paint
A good body man can replace parts of rusted panels, and hopefully a lot of that is just surface rust. If anything is rotted through, it's better just to replace the whole panel, fender, or "bonnet"
Posted by: kbdabear at September 30, 2013 11:30 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Stu-22 at September 30, 2013 11:31 AM (dltsq)
We seem determined to push the splitting now. Why? All this does is help Harry Reid.
Posted by: rockmom at September 30, 2013 03:29 PM (NYnoe)
That's news to me, what did they win?
Because the way I remember it is they caved before any negotiations got started.
Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at September 30, 2013 11:32 AM (p7BzH)
Posted by: kreplach at September 30, 2013 11:33 AM (5PkZK)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 30, 2013 11:33 AM (/PCJa)
No need...they're gonna be on their mommies' plans for the next 15 years.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 30, 2013 11:33 AM (/kI1Q)
So apparently we must fully fund Obamacare or some govt employees will get their feelings hurt
btw the spellcheck for my typo of Obamacare came up as 'macaroon'
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 11:34 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 30, 2013 11:34 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at September 30, 2013 11:34 AM (/lWM8)
Posted by: polynikes at September 30, 2013 11:35 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 30, 2013 11:35 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Soona at September 30, 2013 11:35 AM (gURHd)
101 Damn- radio says cops prevented a CSU student from shooting himself by shooting him 4 times
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 03:05 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at September 30, 2013 11:35 AM (/lWM8)
Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at September 30, 2013 03:34 PM (/lWM
what part of Louisiana are you from?
Posted by: polynikes at September 30, 2013 11:36 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: © Sponge at September 30, 2013 11:36 AM (xmcEQ)
We can then end the shutdown, get rid of Obamacare and let Reid go play hardball with himself in the corner.
I don't think the American people are that stupid. There is an element of Democrats entire strategy that requires a low profile. That enable the media to keep lying and covering for Democrat's failure and despicable lies.
Cruz helped shine the light of day on this entire sordid Senate despotism. Republican's, to their credit, have kept the profile high and hence more Americans are paying attention.
This is not very complicated stuff. Even the most simplistic voter knows that Obamacare is destructive and this government has done zero to help the economy- in fact the converse.
Like it or no- no matter how the media tries to portray their god-king as infallible, the president, no matter which party, gets the blame.
What people see in Obama is what they see in their five-year olds; a petulant, incapable, child.
Posted by: Marcus at September 30, 2013 11:36 AM (GGCsk)
hollowpoint you make me chuckle
you think it is so hard to discern what the dems options are?
doesn't the press tell us every single day
you come here and recite the MSNBC talking points, and then pat your self on the back for your "daring to speak the truth" and your very deep heard it on teevee analysis
what would you do?
Posted by: thunderb at September 30, 2013 11:37 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 30, 2013 11:37 AM (2vJ+h)
?Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at September 30, 2013 11:37 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: polynikes at September 30, 2013 03:36 PM (m2CN7)
Lived in Mandeville for a while, across the Causeway. (newspaper and magazine editor)
Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at September 30, 2013 11:37 AM (/lWM8)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 30, 2013 11:38 AM (ZshNr)
If MWR wrote GOP press releases:
"We are perplexed why Senator Reid and President Obama have threatened to vote down or veto any CR that includes a delay of Obamacare implementation. As was widely publicized in the press just this past summer, the President himself chose to pass an Executive Order delaying the implementation of the Employer Mandate. Our CR would simply delay the implementation of the Individual Mandate, too, as it is the role of the legislative branch to make and amend laws.
"We find it unusual that the President would choose to delay implementation of this law for only some constituents and not for all, and would balk at the Constitutional requirements of involving the Congress in any such action. President Obama was, as has been widely publicized in the press, a lecturer on Constitutional law prior to his brief term as a Senator from Illinois. Surely the President and Senator Reid understand the legislative process.
"To that end, we suspect that Senator Reid and President Obama have chosen to throw up this roadblock because they don't think our delay goes far enough. We wholeheartedly agree, and that's why our revised CR will also include an amendment that ensures that Congress and congressional staffers will be required to enroll in Obamacare's exchanges next October, along with all other Americans who will lose their individual or employer-provided coverage."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 30, 2013 11:38 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 30, 2013 11:38 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Soona at September 30, 2013 03:35 PM (gURHd)
sweet babbling little 8 pound 3 ounce baby jeebus
I wish I could watch when the clock hits zero and everyone looks at each other as nothing happens
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 11:38 AM (8sCoq)
Moses got so frustrated he smote the rock and that kept him out of the promised land. I could not have lasted half as long.
There are lots of examples of religious/political zealots giving themselves to the wrong cause: 1 Kings 22:11ff, they will even sacrifice themselves to prove their ideology: I Kings 18:22ff
Finally Hebrews 11 and how the world (which was not worthy :3
treated those that brought them the truth.Posted by: AE at September 30, 2013 11:38 AM (sSKe8)
Posted by: kreplach at September 30, 2013 11:39 AM (PVNda)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 11:39 AM (8sCoq)
>>>"Allowing ObamaCare to go into effect would be like the Founding Fathers enacting a constitutional amendment specifically to protect and enable slavery."
Yes. And it is the hill to die on. And, despite misgivings from the RINO caucus, if they do die its honorable and right. I'll respect that if it really becomes existential and they refuse to budge.
And I'm positive the Usual Suspects will do just fine absent the GOP. Our task to find Representation will take some doing, tho.
Posted by: Bigby's Itchy Fingers at September 30, 2013 11:39 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 30, 2013 11:40 AM (659DL)
Posted by: © Sponge at September 30, 2013 11:40 AM (xmcEQ)
kbdabear, after looking at a rolled and rusted out Series 1 being resurrected, the E Type has all the fiddly bits sheet metal complications as found on the Karmann built Karmann Ghias. And only a body maestro should be allowed to tackle it. Not the local demiurge of bondo.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 11:40 AM (JaA49)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 30, 2013 11:41 AM (659DL)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 30, 2013 11:41 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at September 30, 2013 11:41 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 30, 2013 11:41 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Soona at September 30, 2013 03:35 PM (gURHd)
They should play a crowd cheer/applause track when the clock zeros out.
Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at September 30, 2013 11:42 AM (p7BzH)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 30, 2013 03:41 PM (ZshNr)
Pity the new fiscal year doesn't start on November 1st. Then all this tension and these scare tactics could be playing out on Halloween.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 30, 2013 11:43 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 03:38 PM (8sCoq)
--------------------------------------------
I'll be at work when it happens. I wonder if my computer will go blank and then see a bright flash. Jan 1, 2000 was such a letdown.
Posted by: Soona at September 30, 2013 11:43 AM (gURHd)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 30, 2013 11:43 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 11:43 AM (JaA49)
Posted by: Amber Alert Harry at September 30, 2013 11:43 AM (dvRYt)
Posted by: Meremortal at September 30, 2013 11:44 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 03:39 PM (8sCoq)
Yes, when it's properly seasoned with Liberal tears.
Tami: I could google it for you, but I'm enjoying making somebody else do what I have to do here at least a dozen times a day...
Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at September 30, 2013 11:44 AM (/lWM8)
Posted by: MTf at September 30, 2013 11:44 AM (uRbX6)
hollowpoint you didn't say one policy you would change
at all
you are the one telling everyone within ear shot they are doing it wrong
rather than just criticize, what would you do?
Posted by: thunderb at September 30, 2013 11:45 AM (zOTsN)
Who would have thought a bunch of second-tier media types who were charter members of Ezra "Goebbels" Klein's Journ-O-List propaganda ring dedicated to "managing" the news so people didn't get "confused by raw facts" would be biased? Even though every major network and newspaper is already so in the bag for Obama they squint at the sight of light?
Great scoop!
Posted by: Adjoran at September 30, 2013 11:45 AM (473jB)
Posted by: © Sponge at September 30, 2013 11:46 AM (xmcEQ)
by shooting him 4 times
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 03:05 PM (8sCoq)
ironic that this happened on the last day of National Suicide Awareness Month
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 11:46 AM (8sCoq)
“He’s been the rock … and he’s had our whole caucus behind him,” said Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.),
I bet you were first in line with your pencil dick at the ready.
Posted by: wth at September 30, 2013 11:47 AM (wAQA5)
Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at September 30, 2013 03:44 PM (/lWM
Don't worry she says she knows what it means and that you are apparently for shooting college students.
Posted by: polynikes at September 30, 2013 11:47 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: apple's number 1 fangirl at September 30, 2013 11:47 AM (Nx76m)
Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at September 30, 2013 11:47 AM (/lWM8)
Posted by: RWC - Bring on O-Care at September 30, 2013 11:48 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Big Ben at September 30, 2013 11:48 AM (I5Htn)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at September 30, 2013 11:49 AM (bCEmE)
The Virginia Tech killer also wanted to kill himself and did but only after he murdered a couple dozen people.
Posted by: polynikes at September 30, 2013 11:49 AM (m2CN7)
hey, "Florida Man" is back
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 11:49 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 30, 2013 11:49 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at September 30, 2013 11:50 AM (bCEmE)
Don't think for a seocnd the sellout wouldn't have happened a long time ago but for the realization a cave-in means a chance they won't even make it to the general election.
Posted by: Carlos F. Danger at September 30, 2013 11:51 AM (qxcKC)
Posted by: polynikes at September 30, 2013 03:47 PM (m2CN7)
Ah, good. I was afraid my use of an obscure regional term was inadvertently masking my meaning.
Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at September 30, 2013 11:51 AM (/lWM8)
Posted by: polynikes at September 30, 2013 11:51 AM (m2CN7)
You may be interested in continuing to service Establishment dick, but I'm not. My rep (Richard "Michael Arcuri" Hanna") has gone full retard and has finally admitted to vote Liberal. Starting this week I'm donating money to the local Democrat Party and sending him and the local Republican Committee the receipts. If I'm going to be stuck with a Liberal regardless of the party then I want the honest Liberal in, and the lying Liberal out.
I may never see a real Republican in my neck of Upstate New York again, but I'll be damned if I help any of the Establishment Republicans hold on to their bennies and unearned seat at the Congressional table just because they have an "R" attached to their name.
Posted by: Eric Allen at September 30, 2013 11:52 AM (7dW8g)
Posted by: Elliot Spitzer at September 30, 2013 11:52 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: © Sponge at September 30, 2013 11:53 AM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: thunderb at September 30, 2013 11:54 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 30, 2013 11:55 AM (/PCJa)
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Babs Mikulski herself practically defines 'non-essential'...
Posted by: Stu-22 at September 30, 2013 11:55 AM (dltsq)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 30, 2013 11:55 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 30, 2013 11:55 AM (MhA4j)
The GUN did all the killing.
Posted by: © Sponge at September 30, 2013 03:53 PM (xmcEQ)
I think with Ms. Puma's favorite gun also. I better warn her.
Posted by: polynikes at September 30, 2013 11:55 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 30, 2013 03:55 PM (MhA4j)
Why do I have to include non related facts in the statistic that 80 cops have been killed by gun fire this year so far? I'm not a cheerleader for law enforcement but I also acknowledge its a thankless and dangerous job much of the time. One side bashing of the cops deserves some balance.
Posted by: polynikes at September 30, 2013 11:58 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: DAve at September 30, 2013 11:59 AM (b7yum)
Posted by: redguy at September 30, 2013 11:59 AM (oqvI4)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 30, 2013 12:00 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: TommyVee at September 30, 2013 03:01 PM (ueDGU)
The Democrats had no problem refusing to raise the debt ceiling in order to cause the US to lose a war it was in back in 2006.
So go and play on the railroad tracks already.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Get Your supplies for Opening Day of RINO Season here! at September 30, 2013 12:00 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 30, 2013 12:01 PM (MhA4j)
Another CATO statistical quote is that police are over 300X more likely to be found guilty of corruption than die in the line of duty
So there has been 24,000 corruption guilty verdicts this year so far?
Posted by: polynikes at September 30, 2013 12:02 PM (m2CN7)
So there has been 24,000 corruption guilty verdicts this year so far?
Posted by: polynikes at September 30, 2013 04:02 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: polynikes at September 30, 2013 12:03 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 30, 2013 12:05 PM (MhA4j)
rather than just criticize, what would you do?
What part of "I don't know" did you fail to understand?
Would you be happier with the stock answer around here, which is to vaguely say "FIGHT. Have BALLS" and be applauded for it?
We're discussing an unsolvable problem. Obama and Reid have the upper hand, with our side fractured. This post expresses what people like me have been saying for weeks now- Reid isn't going to fold. It's not the Democrat's best interest to do so.
For all the people here screaming that the GOP 'are doing it wrong', I haven't been seeing much in the way of plausible solutions either. Because there isn't one.
Settling on an otherwise clean CR with the Vitter amendment (or something similar) isn't a bad option, though it probably wouldn't be enough to please the base.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 30, 2013 12:07 PM (SY2Kh)
Ace: "Let's look when the 'Compromise Is Bad' storyline is deployed -- It is only deployed when conservatives are standing firm."
Doesn't Ace mean "Compromise Is Good storyline," or "the Refusal to Compromise is Bad storyline"?
Insightful commentary, but I couldn't make sense of this one sentence.
Posted by: MySistersBrother at September 30, 2013 12:09 PM (khwNf)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at September 30, 2013 12:11 PM (vd7A8)
Posted by: Alf767 at September 30, 2013 12:23 PM (df8Sh)
It's really pissing me off that the most popular question on healthcare.gov today is "How do I get an exemption from the fee for not having health coverage?" (www.healthcare.gov/exemptions/) and NOT "I'm young, healthy, and smart enough to know I can sign up later if I get sick, but hey, how can I sign up now anyway to help pay for all the old sick geezers that need it now?"
So start clicking on the second question, morons.
Posted by: The Almighty Bronco Bama at September 30, 2013 01:15 PM (1I4sj)
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Posted by: cackfinger at September 30, 2013 07:36 PM (OsCtd)
Funny, Ulsterman's Republican Insider thinks the tea party can be killed? They really don't understand what the tea party is inside the beltway bubble, do they?
Posted by: knowledge is power at September 30, 2013 08:14 PM (Nx76m)
BREAKING NEWS: THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN SHUTDOWN FOR FIRST TIME IN 17 YEARS. #911BUFF
http://tinyurl.com/cqaqg3z
Posted by: knowledge is power at September 30, 2013 08:17 PM (Nx76m)
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