August 22, 2013
— Ace I gotta run out. I hope Hot Air had something interesting here.
Added [rdbrewer]: Something to consider. Erick Erickson points out the poll was conducted by David Winston, a John Boehner adviser.
David Winston is rigging a poll to get some desired results.Winston is a John Boehner adviser and his preferred pollster. In fact, internally, some Republicans grouse that Beohner uses Winston to direct his lead on issues instead of just . . . well, you know. . . leading.
Check out David WinstonÂ’s poll question.
In a national survey of 1,000 registered voters done July 31 and August 1, the question, from pollster David Winston, said, “Some members of Congress have proposed shutting down the government as a way to defund the president’s health care law” and asked respondents whether they favored or opposed that plan.
Yeah, it's a crap poll, designed to grab a few headlines.
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Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2013 02:03 PM (xDfWx)
Posted by: The New Republic at August 22, 2013 02:04 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at August 22, 2013 02:06 PM (U2UQk)
Rick W. Perry is a fraud.
Posted by: Buck Longrod at August 22, 2013 02:07 PM (rLMhe)
Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 02:07 PM (Tnlh/)
Posted by: Andi Sullivain at August 22, 2013 02:09 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Reggie Love at August 22, 2013 02:10 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: The New Republic at August 22, 2013 02:10 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: rickl at August 22, 2013 02:11 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Reggie Love at August 22, 2013 02:12 PM (Pr6hk)
They have standards! Rules about things that can not be written. You need a password. You can get banned over there.
Posted by: Caffeine affected Reactionary at August 22, 2013 02:13 PM (h3fR3)
Posted by: Megan McCain's Bike Seat at August 22, 2013 02:14 PM (uUq75)
Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Flying Toaster Circus at August 22, 2013 02:14 PM (m9V0o)
Posted by: CarolT at August 22, 2013 02:14 PM (s0f54)
Posted by: dipstick at August 22, 2013 02:14 PM (Okxra)
Just saw this headline -
'60 is the new 40': Boomers are opting for lavish weddings
Older couples are feeling less self-conscious about shelling out cash to party like their younger peers
And this is a surprise why, exactly? These are the Boomers that are being talked about, after all.
Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 02:14 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 22, 2013 02:15 PM (GEICT)
As a man is said to have a
right to his property, he may be equally said to have a property in his
rights. Where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is duly
respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or
his possessions.
Posted by: James Madison 1792 at August 22, 2013 02:15 PM (7Lir4)
I say go for it! If only we could selectively shut down government, say, starting withe the Dept. of Ed and HUD.
Posted by: HRH Princess Fuzzy Bunny a/k/a Lizzy at August 22, 2013 02:15 PM (UrtRh)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at August 22, 2013 02:15 PM (PH+2B)
Relying on "and then a miracle happens" isn't a winning strategy.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 22, 2013 02:16 PM (SY2Kh)
Yes, I know, This Ain't The Hill To Die On. Okay, tired of caps. Oh, and our presnit is running around warning that teh gubmint is running out of money. Oh the humanity. And that he won't negotiate with terrorists (defined as Congress).
Just another day at the salt mines.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 22, 2013 02:16 PM (ccXZP)
"Dead Eyes"
http://www.shorpy.com/node/15823
The quite the eyes of a combat veteran, but the eyes of an old man.
Posted by: Caffeine affected Reactionary at August 22, 2013 02:16 PM (h3fR3)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2013 02:17 PM (xDfWx)
Posted by: Fritz at August 22, 2013 02:17 PM (KIHQS)
Posted by: Raspberry Soufle at August 22, 2013 02:17 PM (bUmSq)
Posted by: The New Republic at August 22, 2013 02:18 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 22, 2013 02:20 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2013 02:21 PM (b1/nQ)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2013 06:21 PM (b1/nQ)
Damn straight. And we get to keep the F18/F22/F35 Factory
Posted by: John Boehner at August 22, 2013 02:22 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2013 02:23 PM (xDfWx)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2013 02:23 PM (b1/nQ)
Make that the F16/F18/F22/F35 Factory
Posted by: I'm Rick Perry, bitch at August 22, 2013 06:23 PM (Pr6hk)
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Pretty please with sugar on top take the F35 factory?
Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 02:23 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2013 02:24 PM (b1/nQ)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2013 06:24 PM (b1/nQ)
Eh, a bullet is cheaper than those execution cocktails...
Posted by: KG at August 22, 2013 02:25 PM (IPz9m)
But I'm still fine with a gambit to pass legislation that defunds Obamacare and let Reid's Senate "shut down" the government "because of those evil Republicans who forced us to."
You know what the least likely entity on this planet to be shut down is? A Federal Government in hock for trillions of dollars still in possession of a printing press.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 22, 2013 02:27 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Harry Reid is a pederast at August 22, 2013 02:27 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2013 02:27 PM (b1/nQ)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 22, 2013 02:29 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: mallfly at August 22, 2013 02:29 PM (bJm7W)
Lydia, the Tattooed Lady" is a 1939 song written by Harold Arlen and Yip Harburg. It first appeared in the 1939 Marx Brothers movie At the Circus and became one of Groucho Marx's signature tunes. In 1950 Groucho famously 'stopped' trading at the New York Stock Exchange by commandeering a microphone and singing the song before telling jokes for 15 minutes, during which time traders suspended their work to watch him perform.
Posted by: Retread at August 22, 2013 02:30 PM (Oz+LZ)
If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.
Those jobs weren't as shovel ready as we thought.
You didn't build that.
Take my worf, PLEASE
Posted by: Shecky Soetoro at August 22, 2013 02:33 PM (Pr6hk)
I haven't got a problem shutting down the government at all... the sooner the better!
Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at August 22, 2013 02:33 PM (L4CWX)
Posted by: UWP at August 22, 2013 02:33 PM (vj51i)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 22, 2013 02:34 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Esmeralda Chelsea Hermoine Manning at August 22, 2013 02:34 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 22, 2013 02:34 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: 20,000 Syrians under the sea at August 22, 2013 02:35 PM (omBWL)
Posted by: John Boehner at August 22, 2013 02:35 PM (8ZskC)
Still more qualified than Hillary!
Posted by: bonhomme at August 22, 2013 02:36 PM (8ifMA)
http://tinyurl.com/ky9c2za
Posted by: karl at August 22, 2013 02:37 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: UWP at August 22, 2013 02:38 PM (vj51i)
I don't feel a year younger - are you sure it's August 2012?
Posted by: Lou at August 22, 2013 02:39 PM (P1LlC)
photographers cannot decline to participate in gay-marriage commitment ceremonies,
even though that state does not have gay marriage and the court acknowledged
that providing services for the ceremony violated the ChristianÂ’s
sincerely-held, traditional religious beliefs. This becomes one of the first
major cases where religious liberty collides with gay rights, and could now go
to the Supreme Court of the United States."
http://tinyurl.com/ky9c2za
Yep, photography is a service vital to life. This ruling is entirely correct and was in no way predictable.
Right Gabe M?
Posted by: bonhomme at August 22, 2013 02:39 PM (8ifMA)
@71
Well, unfortunately Ms. Chelsea, we're fully booked up for a long time, but for a "premium" I'm sure we can find someone else to cover for your ceremony.
Posted by: Roy at August 22, 2013 02:39 PM (tiOTz)
Posted by: Gingy at August 22, 2013 02:40 PM (aH+zP)
It wasn't disrespectful. They have standards I can't meet. Too much of a hot head, too emotional. (Lacking impulse control)
Oh, wait, you mean I was disrepectin' Ace? Cuz he lets me post here?
Well, I do try to stay away from the topics that get me in trouble because as big as the internet is, I'm running out of places to hang out.
Posted by: Caffeine affected Reactionary at August 22, 2013 02:40 PM (h3fR3)
Posted by: dipstick at August 22, 2013 02:40 PM (Okxra)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 22, 2013 02:41 PM (/kI1Q)
I was told that gay marriage was about tolerance.
When can we expect religious convictions to be tolerated?
Posted by: HRH Princess Fuzzy Bunny a/k/a Lizzy at August 22, 2013 02:42 PM (UrtRh)
I thought New Mexico was big enough to have more than one wedding photographer, but what would I know?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 22, 2013 02:43 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 02:44 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: UWP at August 22, 2013 02:45 PM (vj51i)
Posted by: BignJames at August 22, 2013 02:45 PM (ZNQKl)
Posted by: Raymond Luxury Yacht at August 22, 2013 02:46 PM (Jsiw/)
Some citizens of the U.S. have proposed shutting down the government as a way to maintain national sanity. Do you favor or oppose that plan?
Posted by: other poll questions at August 22, 2013 02:46 PM (wAQA5)
It doesn't need to be an Obamacare fight. In fact, it should not be.
It should instead be over the exceeding of the previously negotiated debt ceiling.
The national debt clock was basically stopped three months ago by Obama and Jack Lew. They hit the snooze alarm on it, because it was just about to roll over the $17T mark and cause another debt ceiling fight.
They don't want another debt ceiling fight. So they're basically breaking the law to avoid having one.
Protip: if your adversary doesn't want to fight on a particular hilltop, then be sure to make them fight on that hilltop. There can only be one major fight at a time. No one has the stomach for parallel battles.
Here's the deal. If there's another debt ceiling fight, and the GOP loses, what happens? The debt continues to rise. Well, that's the status quo ante. Nothing lost there.
But if we have an Obamacare fight, and lose, we are stuck with Obamacare. If we have an amnesty fight, and lose, we're stuck with amnesty.
Pick the lowest risk option. Make the fight over the debt ceiling, and hurry the fuck up.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 22, 2013 02:47 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Liquid Plumr Ad Campaign at August 22, 2013 02:48 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: UWP at August 22, 2013 02:49 PM (vj51i)
Manning shouldn't make assumption like that.
Not long after DC sniper Lee Boyd Malvo went to prison in VA he demanded that they respect his religion and serve him vegetarian food. The prison complied by serving him their infamous "veggie loaf" every night, which is a form of punishment for unruly prisoners (since food is one of the simple pleasures one can still enjoy in prison). So then Malvo's lawyer demanded that they start feeding him the standard menu because the vegetarian option was not tasty. The prison told him to pound sand because that is the only vegetarian entree they offer. Not sure if this ever got resolved, but it sure taught Malvo a lesson on making demands.
Posted by: HRH Princess Fuzzy Bunny a/k/a Lizzy at August 22, 2013 02:49 PM (UrtRh)
Posted by: James Madison 1971 at August 22, 2013 02:49 PM (7Lir4)
Posted by: blaster at August 22, 2013 02:49 PM (NAU+F)
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I recall reading about a suit over a bakery that refused to make a wedding cake for a same sex wedding ceremony. It seems that the poor dears can't accept anyone refusing their business. Methinks they doth protest too much.
Posted by: Retread at August 22, 2013 02:50 PM (Oz+LZ)
Nantucket has more than one wedding photographer. But we know why they didn't just say OK, I guess I'll find another photographer.
Posted by: HRH Princess Fuzzy Bunny a/k/a Lizzy at August 22, 2013 02:53 PM (UrtRh)
Posted by: mugiwara at August 22, 2013 02:54 PM (hpYnL)
Everyone on the right starts bitching loudly when Obama takes his customary long out of town vacations.
No! Knock it off with that shit!
It's best if he IS out of town all the time. Every hour that Obama spends on a golf course at a luxury resort is an hour he's not making new mischief.
The time to turn up the heat is when he comes BACK to D.C. As soon as he returns, make being there unpleasant. Drag him into long boring negotiations. Make him sit through ten hours straight of Paul Ryan doing budget math. Ask him hard questions about policy while in public. Obama hates all of those things.
The guy is intrinsically lazy. Cater to that. Make sure the only time he has any peace and quiet is when he's outside of the Beltway.
The bad optics of the President on the golf course *again* will speak for themselves and don't need to be openly voiced by the opposition.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 22, 2013 02:55 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: UWP at August 22, 2013 02:56 PM (vj51i)
Current case in WA involving a florist. Said florist provided flowers to the couple previously, but chooses not to do so for the wedding.
*bzzt* says WA AG, who chose to pursue legal action on his own with no outside pressure.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 22, 2013 02:56 PM (45N4D)
Posted by: Gingy at August 22, 2013 02:58 PM (aH+zP)
It's best if he IS out of town all the time. Every hour that Obama spends on a golf course at a luxury resort is an hour he's not making new mischief.
You do know that a lot of the mischief he makes is done through functionaries, right? He appoints hard lefties into key positions and gives them zero oversight.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 22, 2013 02:58 PM (45N4D)
resort is an hour he's not making new mischief.
You forgot about the autopen...
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at August 22, 2013 03:04 PM (yF8OY)
Hell yeah it's a crap poll.
They probably used a cherry-picked list of their most faithful centrists to call.
And on top of that...they tailored the question to automatically get a "No".
Posted by: wheatie at August 22, 2013 03:22 PM (el7k2)
Posted by: Making Treason Pay at August 23, 2013 02:52 AM (JATil)
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