November 19, 2013

WTF?
— Ace

It's not enough to buy a free-range organic turkey for Thanksgiving.

Now doing big business: "heritage turkeys."

Heritage turkeys are like heirloom tomatoes -- closer to the naturally-occurring exemplar of the breed that really existed in the world, before men began breeding them for specific traits (and thereby turning them into nearly a different species).

“It’s a draw in that people are looking to get back to the roots of how things were done hundreds of years ago before things were changed,” said Valerie Lafferty, the co-owner of Springfield Farms.

Interesting. I'm not going to knock it. But it's a new thing I just heard of, and I'm temperamentally inclined against new things I just heard of.

Then again, this isn't a new thing. This is in fact a very old thing, which I approve of. So I'm confused.

Now about the price: I know a guy who's looking to buy a heritage turkey, and apparently the price of such a bird big enough to feed his family is going to be around $200.

Posted by: Ace at 08:26 AM | Comments (344)
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1 They taste great. And I like getting you all off beef.

Posted by: Evi. L. Bloggerlady at November 19, 2013 08:27 AM (4kTo2)

2 Wild Turkey does taste better than their domestic counterparts. Just sayin.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at November 19, 2013 08:28 AM (0q2P7)

3 Greenberg Turkeys are a thing.

Posted by: X at November 19, 2013 08:28 AM (KHo8t)

4

Ahhhh, the luxuries of affluence.

And yeah, they sound cool, and probably taste great.  If you want to get one, then cool.

But of course the zealots can't just buy one and eat it quietly, they need to include all the loud moral preening on facebook.

Posted by: dan-O at November 19, 2013 08:28 AM (D0bIN)

5 Chrispie Creme, he who chose today of all days to knock the Republican Party, would like to order four of them. That way, on Thanksgiving his family gets one too.

Posted by: MTF at November 19, 2013 08:28 AM (aN78T)

6 Sounds like I need to go an a turkey hunt and start selling the birds as heirloom or heritage or whatever.

Posted by: Xander Crews at November 19, 2013 08:29 AM (MGVR2)

7 I did a Narragansett Turkey for Thanksgiving (it was pricey) but it did taste better. I have friends who prefer Bourbon Reds (they are very good too).

Posted by: Evi. L. Bloggerlady at November 19, 2013 08:29 AM (4kTo2)

8 If we're home instead of hiking, we're having heritage tamales. Not our heritage though.

Posted by: NCKate at November 19, 2013 08:29 AM (w7CQT)

9 2 Wild Turkey does taste better than their domestic counterparts. Just sayin. When I lived in Texas, my boss and I used to shoot 'em out at his ranch property on weekends. They are dee-licious!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 19, 2013 08:29 AM (7ObY1)

10 A number of years ago I got a fresh turkey locally.

Meh.

Was not impressed, sorry to say.


Posted by: shibumi at November 19, 2013 08:29 AM (25HWz)

11 I'll bet they're gamey.

Posted by: John the Libertarian at November 19, 2013 08:29 AM (jKf/K)

12 Well, if I were wealthier I might consider it. As it stands, though, the joncelli Family will be feasting on newfangled turkeys, because cheap.

Posted by: joncelli at November 19, 2013 08:30 AM (RD7QR)

13

It’s a draw in that people are looking to get back to the roots of how things were done hundreds of years ago before things were changed,” said Valerie Lafferty, the co-owner of Springfield Farms

 

Then you shouldn't be selling the turkeys.  You should be running a nature preserve and renting out muskets.

Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2013 08:30 AM (LI48c)

14 Why do I get the feeling that you'll pay 10x as much for 1/4 the white meat?

Posted by: Warden at November 19, 2013 08:30 AM (bmp0d)

15 14 Warden Racist.

Posted by: speedster1 on the iPad at November 19, 2013 08:31 AM (yeM7r)

16 $200? More Affordable Health Turkeys.

Posted by: Cenobite Pelosi at November 19, 2013 08:31 AM (Zswg6)

17 There was a guy at the animal auction buying all the old spent out layer hens. These are the type of chickens that spent their lives pecking around meth labs and abandoned cars. Nasty. A friend helped him load his truck and asked him why he was buying them. He said he brought them to the Farmer's Market and sold them as "free range organic" chickens. So know where your bird comes from and buyer beware.

Posted by: Evi. L. Bloggerlady at November 19, 2013 08:31 AM (4kTo2)

18 Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2013 12:30 PM (LI48c) And if you can't bag one??? You go hungry..... bowww bow bow...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2013 08:31 AM (lZBBB)

19 "But of course the zealots can't just buy one and eat it quietly, they need to include all the loud moral preening on facebook.

Posted by: dan-O"

I swear, that's all Facebook seems to be anymore.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at November 19, 2013 08:31 AM (fk1A8)

20 >>>$200? More Affordable Health Turkeys.

Last wild turkey I ate cost over $5000

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at November 19, 2013 08:32 AM (0q2P7)

21 America's Test Kitchen ran a test with fresh turkeys and frozen.

The frozen, processed ones won.

(Points and laughs at gullible rich people. )

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 19, 2013 08:32 AM (rSTkb)

22 And yeah, they sound cool, and probably taste great. If you want to get one, then cool. But of course the zealots can't just buy one and eat it quietly, they need to include all the loud moral preening on facebook. --- ^Exactly. I could imagine trying one some time since I like most game birds I've tried (except grouse, I wasn't impressed by that), but probably not for Thanksgiving. I like my T-days to be familiar, easy, and comforting. Tried a turducken a few years ago and have had the fried turkey thing at a friend's place when we were in Texas, but really didn't feel the same.

Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2013 08:32 AM (zDsvJ)

23 6 Sounds like I need to go an a turkey hunt and start selling the birds as heirloom or heritage or whatever.

Heh, exactly what i was thinking, who knew we had all these turkey goldmines just wandering about in the woods waiting to be sold to some sucker, excuse me, some modern man of fine, discerning tatse.

Posted by: booger at November 19, 2013 08:32 AM (xRDdL)

24 I find Wild Turkey helps get through Thanksgiving. I prefer it on the rocks.

Posted by: Evi. L. Bloggerlady at November 19, 2013 08:32 AM (4kTo2)

25

Ah, Turkeys and Bacon.

 

Bacon Wrapped Turkey

 

http://tinyurl.com/aek73k

Posted by: ExSnipe at November 19, 2013 08:33 AM (57ubW)

26 Healthcare.gov is a heritage website.

Posted by: President Saystuff at November 19, 2013 08:33 AM (bmp0d)

27 A wild turkey is far smarter than his domestic relative.  So is a bit of work to hunt.

Those who peddle 'heritage turkeys' are peddling the whole 'back to nature' vibe to people who think water only comes in bottles.  City slickers with too much balance on their credit card.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 19, 2013 08:33 AM (5tMRX)

28 I don't know if turkeys are anything like pigs, but I do know that there is a HUGE, massive difference between the pork that you can buy at the grocery store and the heritage breeds. American pork has had nearly all the fat removed and has become tasteless. We pay more for the better pork, even if I do have to cook it more carefully because I'm paranoid that smaller farms might not be quite as safe as the mass feed lots.

Posted by: Lauren at November 19, 2013 08:33 AM (hFL/3)

29 >>>Then you shouldn't be selling the turkeys. You should be running a nature preserve and renting out muskets.

Back then they baited them and shot them. Not exactly a hunting experience either.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at November 19, 2013 08:33 AM (0q2P7)

30 Buying heritage turkeys at the supermarket just like the pilgrims did.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 19, 2013 08:34 AM (6ahup)

31 18 Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2013 12:30 PM (LI48c)

And if you can't bag one???


You go hungry..... bowww bow bow...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2013 12:31 PM (lZBBB)

 

Just like "things were done hundreds of years ago before things were changed."

Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2013 08:34 AM (LI48c)

32 Posted by: booger at November 19, 2013 12:32 PM (xRDdL) And.... either dress up in an indian headdress and hunt with a bow... or put on a Pilgrim hat and hunt with black powder... Bet you could charge even MORE...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2013 08:34 AM (lZBBB)

33 Capons, villeins! Capons and sack makes me a happy Jack. And wenches. Can't forget the wenches.

Posted by: Sir John Falstaff at November 19, 2013 08:34 AM (7ObY1)

34 Come to my neighborhood. We are plagued by these suckers. But now I feel so much better knowing they are "heritage".

Posted by: Puttanesca, the sauce at November 19, 2013 08:34 AM (AT52Q)

35 I load up on turkeys every January.

Posted by: X at November 19, 2013 08:34 AM (KHo8t)

36 I just want a moist turkey.

Posted by: furious at November 19, 2013 08:34 AM (A98Xu)

37 6 Sounds like I need to go an a turkey hunt and start selling the birds as heirloom or heritage or whatever. --- A couple houses down from me there's a small lot (maybe 0.5 acres) that has a grove of peach trees and an apiary and chickens. At this time of year they add a couple of turkeys to the mix. Very fun to hear them gobbling away. Also, very tempting...

Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2013 08:34 AM (zDsvJ)

38 So these are the cro-nuts of turkeys I take it?


Awesome, but unaffordable?

Posted by: EC at November 19, 2013 08:35 AM (GQ8sn)

39 34 Come to my neighborhood. We are plagued by these suckers. But now I feel so much better knowing they are "heritage".

Posted by: Puttanesca, the sauce at November 19, 2013 12:34 PM (AT52Q)


Oooh, bag some and ship them to ace, I'm sure he'll be happy to reship them to the Horde.

Posted by: joncelli at November 19, 2013 08:35 AM (RD7QR)

40 20 $5K? Must have been one heck of a drumstick.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 19, 2013 08:35 AM (Zswg6)

41 As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.

Posted by: Every Obama Voter at November 19, 2013 08:35 AM (6ahup)

42 Yes, they taste better. No, they do not taste SO much better that they justify the cost. Been there, done that. Had to get a new wallet.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/i][/u][/s] at November 19, 2013 08:36 AM (sbV1u)

43 A little known fact: The Pilgrims brought turkeys with them to Massachusetts. They were already domesticated in Europe due to the turkeys the Spanish brought back. The Narragansett is a mix of the turkeys the Pilgrims and Puritans brought to New England and wild turkeys that slipped in and gave some their own genetic influence.

Posted by: Evi. L. Bloggerlady at November 19, 2013 08:36 AM (4kTo2)

44 >>>A wild turkey is far smarter than his domestic relative. So is a bit of work to hunt.

Yes far smarter. Minds like razors that bunch.

>>>Those who peddle 'heritage turkeys' are peddling the whole 'back to nature' vibe to people who think water only comes in bottles. City slickers with too much balance on their credit card.

Like I said if you think the farm raised wild turkey is expensive try hunting them. Wild turkeys have a much better flavor than their domestic counterparts.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at November 19, 2013 08:36 AM (0q2P7)

45 36 I just want a moist turkey.

Then brine it:
http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/turkey6.html

Posted by: dan-O at November 19, 2013 08:36 AM (D0bIN)

46 I'll wager that they taste just like chicken.

Posted by: Martin Bashir at November 19, 2013 08:36 AM (8ZskC)

47 36 I just want a moist turkey.
********

Cook it upside-down.

Posted by: Just Some Guy Who Cooks Turkeys at November 19, 2013 08:37 AM (pj6Nr)

48 What's better than eating wild turkey? Drinking it.

Posted by: Countrysquire at November 19, 2013 08:37 AM (LSJmV)

49 There is heritage pork and beef, as well. Since we don't eat much meat, only on special occasions, we don't mind paying extra for meat that comes from humane farming standards and breeds that escaped modification, hormone-injection and all that stuff. Just like our vegetables, which we buy locally, so it tastes better. It doesn't need to survive a long haul only to sit on a store shelf or in a cooler.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 19, 2013 08:37 AM (Y92Nd)

50 Sidebar:


Serbia govt hottie story comment:


Well, it only takes one hand to pull the lever.
In the voting machine, of course.



LOLOLOL!!!!!

Posted by: EC at November 19, 2013 08:37 AM (GQ8sn)

51 Back then they baited them and shot them. Not exactly a hunting experience either.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at November 19, 2013 12:33 PM (0q2P7)

 

But more "authentic" which is what they want to claim is the justification.

Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2013 08:37 AM (LI48c)

52 Out, shit-eating sock

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2013 08:37 AM (8ZskC)

53 BTW, I do not pay $200 a turkey. I buy some chicks in the spring and raise them. But they cost $10 each (for the heirloom breeds) and with all the feed they probably do end up costing a lot more than a frozen bird.

Posted by: Evi. L. Bloggerlady at November 19, 2013 08:37 AM (4kTo2)

54 $200?! They troop through my yard by the dozen. I wonder if I can market Heritage Turkey guano.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 19, 2013 08:37 AM (aDwsi)

55 Funniest shit on the planet are the high-end cooking vendors that are now featuring things like hen houses in their catalogs for thousands of dollars.

Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2013 08:37 AM (zDsvJ)

56 The guy you mention as paying for a $200 dollar bird is getting taken for a ride. It'd probably be much cheaper to get two heritage breeds turkeys half the size of what he is currently shopping for, as the heritage breeds are generally quite a bit smaller than the big breasted commercial breeds. If you go looking for a heritage bird of the same size, you'll have to find that rare extremely large specimen, and thus the increased price.

Posted by: amichel at November 19, 2013 08:37 AM (I+4FK)

57 If these so-called heritage turkeys are anything like wild turkeys they are scrawny and tough.  But people will pay extra for it because it has a cool hipster name.



Give me the fat farm raised birds that have some meat on their bones.

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 08:37 AM (FTQyq)

58 Hey, Maria Bartiromo is moving to Fox Business Network. How many other business anchors have had a Ramones song written about them? (OK, it was a SUCKY Ramones song, but still...)

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 19, 2013 08:38 AM (7ObY1)

59 Can't wait  until Penn and Teller do an episode on it, and have a bunch of stupid hippies  choosing store-bought Butterballs over their precious Heritage Turkeys. 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2013 08:38 AM (TOk1P)

60 I always have Wild Turkey at Thanksgiving. On ice. In the dark.

Posted by: brak at November 19, 2013 08:38 AM (iEoiA)

61 >>>I just want a moist turkey.

That's a serious issue with wild turkey. They fly and are fit. You have to take special precautions not to dry it out.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at November 19, 2013 08:38 AM (0q2P7)

62 And if you can't bag one??? You go hungry..... bowww bow bow... Vegatarian: Old indian word for lousy hunter...

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 08:38 AM (t+DWU)

63 SPLATCHCOCK

Posted by: Evi. L. Bloggerlady at November 19, 2013 08:38 AM (4kTo2)

64 " I'm temperamentally inclined against new things I just heard of."

And this is why I love you.

Posted by: tangonine at November 19, 2013 08:38 AM (x3YFz)

65 You want a moist turkey? Follow Alton Brown's recipe to the letter, including the brining. By far the best traditional turkey I've ever had.

Posted by: Countrysquire at November 19, 2013 08:38 AM (LSJmV)

66 BTW Morons, there was a news item this morning that I didn't link that said there was an actual turkey shortage going now, so expect to pay more for turkeys over these holidays.


Or go to ham.

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 08:39 AM (FTQyq)

67 Some folks in my family have been buying these. Meh, fine by me, as long as there is no health hazard.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2013 08:39 AM (IXrOn)

68 I confess to recently subscribing to Martha Stewart Living.  I know.  *sigh*

Her monthly personal calendar in the front of the magazine exhausts me.  She has "Order heritage turkey" one day, and "harvest apples and press cider" on the next.

She also enjoys staying up late and pressing her bed linens.

*beats head on desk*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 08:39 AM (lVPtV)

69 My people called it hunting.

Posted by: flounder at November 19, 2013 08:39 AM (Kkt/i)

70 There is no Thanksgiving Day turkey unless it is fried!!!


Posted by: EC at November 19, 2013 08:39 AM (GQ8sn)

71 >>Cook it upside-down. I did that - by accident - the first year we were married. The embarrassing part is that I didn't realize it until I went to carve the bird and I thought "gee, this breast doesn't have much meat on it!"

Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2013 08:40 AM (zDsvJ)

72 By the way, turkeys are mean, nasty animals.  Death is all  they deserve.  Tasty, tasty death. 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2013 08:40 AM (TOk1P)

73 Fine Dandy Wonderful. For Thanksgiving, give me Liberty and some Booze and some Meatloaf and mashed potatoes with gravy and roll me home.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2013 08:40 AM (t3UFN)

74 I got a half price frozen one because I spent $50. I am smoking that one.

Posted by: Evi. L. Bloggerlady at November 19, 2013 08:40 AM (4kTo2)

75
We have heirloom tomato seeds that we grow, they are cheap as the others, mainly we like them because we can get the seeds again from the plant, others that were created don't do that.

As for turkeys, the heritage ones live in the wild, go shoot one instead of pay for one.  Me?  I prefer the fat ones force fed that have big breasts and thighs.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2013 08:40 AM (iGPSR)

76 BTW Morons, there was a news item this morning that I didn't link that said there was an actual turkey shortage going now, so expect to pay more for turkeys over these holidays.


Those are the fresh turkeys of a certain size, not the frozen ones.


Posted by: EC at November 19, 2013 08:40 AM (GQ8sn)

77 we have a freezer the size of my ex wife's ass just *loaded* with frozen turkeys.  I could feed a platoon for a month.

Posted by: tangonine at November 19, 2013 08:40 AM (x3YFz)

78 40 34 "Come to my neighborhood. We are plagued by these suckers. But now I feel so much better knowing they are "heritage"." In our neighborhood, they walk out into the center of the street and won't move for anything. They certainly aren't afraid of cars.

Posted by: jwest at November 19, 2013 08:40 AM (u2a4R)

79 >>She also enjoys staying up late and pressing her bed linens. My husband and I press our bed linens as often as possible. Oh... wait. Did you mean iron?

Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2013 08:40 AM (zDsvJ)

80 Healthcare.gov is a heritage website. Posted by: President Saystuff at November 19, 2013 12:33 PM (bmp0d) haha priceless

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2013 08:41 AM (IXrOn)

81 I thought turkey used to be small. Those "heritage" turkeys seem pretty damn plump. Looks like their "heritage" is going back to 1970s size turkeys, not 1670s.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 19, 2013 08:41 AM (ZPrif)

82 A dozen or so heritage free-range Canada geese are pooping all over the back yard right now. I could nail one in the head with my trusty Winchester model 62A, using a single 22LR hollowpoint.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 19, 2013 08:41 AM (tmFlQ)

83 However, if you can not resist the urge to take one day off from moralizing, do not be upset when I tell you what to do with your moralizing and your anus.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 19, 2013 12:38 PM (OWjjx)


[Sustained golf clap]

Posted by: joncelli at November 19, 2013 08:41 AM (RD7QR)

84 Yeh...I don't get it.


Posted by: dananjcon at November 19, 2013 08:41 AM (wmU4G)

85 She also enjoys staying up late and pressing her bed linens. I bet she was great when she was working in the prison laundry. I would feel bad for her, but it serves her right for being a Democrat and trusting the government.

Posted by: Evi. L. Bloggerlady at November 19, 2013 08:41 AM (4kTo2)

86 "Yes far smarter. Minds like razors that bunch." I see them every once in a while in upstate NY, and I remember how they used to chase us in the woods back when we'd visit Grandma Belle's farm in WV. The domesticated ones are bred to be stupid and docile. I lived with a family of vegans in Kew Gardens, and they took the kids to visit a poultry farm, so they could meet the animals that ended up on dinner plates. The kids wanted to adopt a baby turkey, so they brought the thing home and kept it as a pet in the back yard. The dad would chase it around the yard with the water hose, and it would get trapped in the corner just trying to run through the chain link fence.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 19, 2013 08:41 AM (Y92Nd)

87 Rejected by marketing:

Neanderthal Bird
Aboriginal Fowl
Native American Turkey

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2013 08:41 AM (8ZskC)

88 The people doing this do know they can just go out in the woods and shoot them, right? Flocks of heritage turkeys used to wander around the front yard of my old house. Why? Because they're not stupid and figured out that they couldn't get shot there. You know what I called heritage turkeys? Omfg I am going to plow you down with my car you nasty vile creatures

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 19, 2013 08:42 AM (VtjlW)

89 Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 19, 2013 12:36 PM (sbV1u) In the case of heirloom tomatoes there's a certain sense to it, we bread tomatoes to be easy to ship with thick skins and long shelf lives not for taste. So the older lines taste better. In the case of turkey though we bread them to have more white meat and be more succulent, so...uh...I fail to see why this is a good thing. Grass fed beef I kinda understand (there's some biochemistry behind that.)

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 19, 2013 08:42 AM (GaqMa)

90 what to do with
your moralizing and your anus.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 19, 2013 12:38 PM (OWjjx)

[Sustained golf clap]

Posted by: joncelli at November 19, 2013 12:41 PM (RD7QR)

how do you moralize an anu... shit nevermind.  BAD question.

Posted by: tangonine at November 19, 2013 08:42 AM (x3YFz)

91 we have a freezer the size of my ex wife's ass just *loaded* with frozen turkeys. I could feed a platoon for a month.

**


Pics!! You know the rules!!  (the ass not the freezer)

Posted by: A. Weiner at November 19, 2013 08:42 AM (wmU4G)

92 I like a turkey with really big, firm breasts.

Posted by: Tom Turkey at November 19, 2013 08:42 AM (8ZskC)

93 In our neighborhood, they walk out into the center of the street and won't move for anything. They certainly aren't afraid of cars. Sounds like the Canada geese in my work neighborhood. Those suckers not only won't move for anything, they actually slow down and glare at you as they're holding up traffic. Nasty, loud-ass birds with bad attitudes that leave dinner-plate sized goose shits all over the place.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 19, 2013 08:43 AM (7ObY1)

94 Defrost
Brine
Inject
Roast

Posted by: mrp at November 19, 2013 08:43 AM (HjPtV)

95 You know what I called heritage turkeys? Omfg I am going to plow you down with my car you nasty vile creature Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 19, 2013 12:42 PM (VtjlW) Valium infused brownie, my Qyeen?

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/i][/u][/s] at November 19, 2013 08:43 AM (sbV1u)

96 I saw the Heritage Turkeys open for the Yardbirds at The Fillmore in '67.

Posted by: Countrysquire at November 19, 2013 08:43 AM (LSJmV)

97 Jane - We don't vacuum until the dust bunnies become aggressive.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 19, 2013 08:43 AM (aDwsi)

98

64 -

 

Sausage dressing?  That's fancy!  Stovetop Stuffing not good enough for the likes of you,  Mr.  Rockefeller? 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2013 08:43 AM (TOk1P)

99
My husband and I press our bed linens as often as possible.


Oh... wait. Did you mean iron?

Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2013 12:40 PM (zDsvJ)



lol

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 08:43 AM (lVPtV)

100 Got a neighbor who raises emus, wonder if I can talk her into re-branding them as 'heritage emus' and charge way more for a drumstick...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 19, 2013 08:43 AM (5tMRX)

101 Defrost
Brine
Inject
Roast
Fry

Posted by: mrp at November 19, 2013 12:43 PM (HjPtV)



Fixed.

Posted by: EC at November 19, 2013 08:44 AM (GQ8sn)

102 What do they taste like?

Posted by: Comrade Jesse, not welcoming our socialist overlords at November 19, 2013 08:44 AM (kkbgQ)

103 Pics!! You know the rules!! (the ass not the freezer)

Posted by: A. Weiner at November 19, 2013 12:42 PM (wmU4G)

Trust me:  you do NOT want this to happen.

Posted by: tangonine at November 19, 2013 08:44 AM (x3YFz)

104 Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 19, 2013 12:42 PM (OWjjx) Build your turkey tent. Thanksgiving at the parents this year which means I'll be in charge of bringing some food item and preventing a turkey disaster. Cleverly cut foil makes for a delicious white meat.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 19, 2013 08:44 AM (GaqMa)

105 Wild Turkey 750ml costs about $22.95 each. Unless the man has a huge family I'd think 2 or 3 bottles would suffice to feed the family.

Posted by: aka.john at November 19, 2013 08:44 AM (zPa3K)

106 When I was a wee tad, the wild turkeys hunted around Uvalde, Texas were especially valued because they ate lots of chile piquins, which gave the meat a unique and extra delicious flavor.

Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 19, 2013 08:44 AM (CRY7r)

107 I'm doing a Prime Rib this year, I expect to pay about the same.

Posted by: Cajun Caret at November 19, 2013 08:44 AM (UZQM8)

108 BTW Morons, there was a news item this morning that I didn't link that said there was an actual turkey shortage going now, so expect to pay more for turkeys over these holidays.

Posted by: Vic

I'll take "Seasonal Industry Stories" for $200, Alex.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 19, 2013 08:45 AM (rSTkb)

109 My family only eats Cato Turkeys.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 19, 2013 08:45 AM (UypUQ)

110 It seems to me that the off brand turkeys always turn out the best....at least that's what I've found in over 30+ years of fixing T-day dinners.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 19, 2013 08:45 AM (bCEmE)

111 When I read the headline, I thought that they were banishing Thanksgiving like they banished Christmas for implying God. 

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 19, 2013 08:45 AM (XUKZU)

112 Round here, you just go out and shoot one of the ugly birds. Pretty darn "heritage" and the only cost is for the bullet.

Posted by: tcn at November 19, 2013 08:45 AM (3kDQa)

113 If you like your turkey..

Ok that's not really funny anymore.

Posted by: tangonine at November 19, 2013 08:45 AM (x3YFz)

114 In the case of turkey though we bread them to have more white meat and be more succulent, so...uh...I fail to see why this is a good thing. Grass fed beef I kinda understand (there's some biochemistry behind that.) Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 19, 2013 12:42 PM (GaqMa) I used to buy all my meat, including turkeys, here. http://tinyurl.com/ljgwbgh It was REALLY good stuff.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/i][/u][/s] at November 19, 2013 08:46 AM (sbV1u)

115 111 When I was a wee tad, the wild turkeys hunted around Uvalde, Texas were especially valued because they ate lots of chile piquins, which gave the meat a unique and extra delicious flavor. Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 19, 2013 12:44 PM (CRY7r) Hey, I lived pretty near to Uvalde, in Kerrville, back in the 80s. We shot those chili turkeys too. I had forgotten all about that!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 19, 2013 08:46 AM (7ObY1)

116 One of the best thanksgiving ever. We ate all the side dishes, drank all the wine and beer, demolished all the desserts and then made sammiches to watch football. --- Heh. I cook/serve the meal on Wednesday. Then the big day we both get to stay in our pajamas all day, eating leftovers and watching football. It is teh awesome. IIRC it was my husband's idea, several years ago, and now I think it's his favorite day of the year.

Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2013 08:46 AM (zDsvJ)

117 In our neighborhood, they walk out into the center of the street and won't move for anything. They certainly aren't afraid of cars. They'll only do that once. Then they'll go in the freezer.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 08:46 AM (t+DWU)

118 Hunting wild turkey is not expensive if you have access to  woods where they are at.  All it takes is a camouflage suit, a shotgun with some shells, and a turkey call.  The kind with the box and scratcher stick work best.


If you have to join a hunting club though, yes it will be expensive.

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 08:46 AM (FTQyq)

119 Cook it upside-down. I always rotate my roasts. Even if it is a stuffed turkey. It's not that hard to do. Cooks it evenly, and crisps the skin all the way around.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2013 08:46 AM (IXrOn)

120 Defrost Brine Inject Roast forget the brining and injecting- Try the "Accidental Turkey" recipe. Stupidly easy and delicioso!

Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 19, 2013 08:46 AM (CRY7r)

121 This year I'm serving slices of Heritage Velveeta. It's a lot like regular Velveeta but a slice is $2.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 19, 2013 08:46 AM (6ahup)

122 I thought Bloomberg made a mistake by gassing the Canada geese in Prospect Park instead of shooting them. He could have fed so many homeless people.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 19, 2013 08:46 AM (Y92Nd)

123
hmmmm...reading this I guess wild turkeys in other parts of the country might be better, mountain turkeys here suck.  But I would eat them in the burning times.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2013 08:46 AM (iGPSR)

124 I understand another turkey trend right now is to adopt a turkey to save it from being killed. You apparently get a picture of the turkey along with its life story. Kind of like when you adopt those starving kids in Africa.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 19, 2013 08:46 AM (RZ8pf)

125 Don't know about "heritage" turkeys.  Have heard, however, that wild turkeys don't taste very good.  I expect to find out for myself soon, as they (wild turkeys) are plentiful in the area where I bought a farm.  Now "heritage" hogs . . . I'd happily pay a premium for one of those, as I've heard they're fattier, less lean, than presently mainstream breeds.  Mmmmm, pork fat.

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at November 19, 2013 08:46 AM (lSXXO)

126 This year I'm serving slices of Heritage Velveeta. It's a lot like regular Velveeta but a slice is $2.


Oooh!   I've got some heritage maccaroni!  We can make heritage mac'n'cheese and sell it for $50 a serving.


Posted by: EC at November 19, 2013 08:47 AM (GQ8sn)

127 I saw Exemplar of the Breed open for WASP back in '87.

Posted by: Joe at November 19, 2013 08:48 AM (7pOq5)

128 I usually splurge and order a Bell and Evans turkey from Fresh Market.  One year I ordered a heritage turkey from Williams Sonoma and it arrived after we'd left for my mother's. 

The kitteh sitter placed the box in the foyer where it sat and thawed for two days.  I contacted Williams Sonoma and they didn't charge me for it (of course).  I threw the turkey in the trash, and low and behold, my usually brilliant husband pulled it out of the trash and placed it in the freezer in the garage.  I was gobsmacked.  Apparently, he believed by re-freezing it it would magically kill the salmonella and whatever.  I tossed it again (and he didn't retrieve it).

I must say, Williams Sonoma gifted me a $75 coupon for the failure to deliver the turkey on time.  I've been a loyal customer of theirs (just not of their turkeys) since.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 08:48 AM (lVPtV)

129 Heritage Turkeys? Do they only sell these in specially stores that have free Wi Fi?

Posted by: Bufalobob at November 19, 2013 08:48 AM (r8ENS)

130 110 Wild Turkey 750ml costs about $22.95 each. Unless the man has a huge family I'd think 2 or 3 bottles would suffice to feed the family.

Posted by: aka.john at November 19, 2013 12:44 PM (zPa3K)

Wow!  That's insane.  I won't pay more than $0.75/lb here.  And we stock up *after* thanksgiving, and can usually get them for $0.65/lb

Posted by: tangonine at November 19, 2013 08:48 AM (x3YFz)

131 Got a neighbor who raises emus, wonder if I can talk her into re-branding them as 'heritage emus' Texas Turkeys and charge way more for a drumstick... Marketing 101.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 08:48 AM (t+DWU)

132
Fixed.
Posted by: EC

Heh.

Posted by: mrp at November 19, 2013 08:48 AM (HjPtV)

133 Some friends of mine always invited us for the Fourth of July up one the mountain where her father raised Ostriches.  They always had deviled eggs the size of footballs. 

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 19, 2013 08:48 AM (XUKZU)

134 Heh. I cook/serve the meal on Wednesday. Then the big day we both get to stay in our pajamas all day, eating leftovers and watching football. It is teh awesome. IIRC it was my husband's idea, several years ago, and now I think it's his favorite day of the year. Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2013 12:46 PM (zDsvJ) We do this often, too. If it's a family dinner, and we need to invite people over, we invite the day or two before. Then eat the leftovers, and enjoy a truly relaxing holiday from that point on. I never enjoy my meals when we have a huge crowd. So exhausted after cooking for 1-2 days, and always tending to the needs of the guests. I often eat my dessert after everyone is gone.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2013 08:49 AM (IXrOn)

135 105 Got a neighbor who raises emus, wonder if I can talk her into re-branding them as 'heritage emus' and charge way more for a drumstick... --- Try to get some. Emu is delicious. It's as good as the best beef filet you've ever had imho.

Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2013 08:49 AM (zDsvJ)

136 112 "I want my turkeys to be raised on Brawndo....it has electorlytes." Actually, Brawndo might make a good brine. Use a (new) trash can liner in a 5 gallon bucket. Put the thawed turkey in with sliced lemons, limes and oranges and fill with a combination of water and at least a half gallon of apple cider. Dissolve a pound of salt in the mixture and seal up for a day.

Posted by: jwest at November 19, 2013 08:49 AM (u2a4R)

137 TW Morons, there was a news item this morning that I didn't link that said there was an actual turkey shortage going now, so expect to pay more for turkeys over these holidays.


But the turkeys available on the exchange are better than your crappy regular turkeys.

Posted by: The Affordable Turkey Act (ATA) at November 19, 2013 08:49 AM (8ZskC)

138 What a fantastic idea. Perhaps this shift to better quality turkeys can be brought into the urban food deserts. Maybe subsidies to make it affordable.

No reason for those self-centric 01%er's to enjoy something that would not be available to the less financially enhanced.

It's for the chirrun.
And Social Justice.
Food justice as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2013 08:49 AM (NDA7a)

139 ed by: Vic at November 19, 2013 12:46 PM (FTQyq) Given the list of injuries in our yearly hunting regulations: good insurance should also be included in that list. I went out 2 years back for spring turkey season with some friends, we didn't see anything, although we need to clearcut a part of the farm for strutting (it's on the owner's long term plans.)

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 19, 2013 08:49 AM (GaqMa)

140 Now "heritage" hogs . . . I'd happily pay a premium for one of those, as I've heard they're fattier, less lean, than presently mainstream breeds. Mmmmm, pork fat. Posted by:The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at November 19, 2013 12:46 PM (lSXXO) The meat is red...supposedly.

Posted by: BignJames at November 19, 2013 08:49 AM (HtUkt)

141 We always have elk roast for thanksgiving. It's not certified heirloom, but if I eat it while wearing a t-shirt with an ironic saying and drink PBR during dinner it should balance out.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 19, 2013 08:49 AM (+lsX1)

142 " I happily pay a premium for one of those, as I've heard they're fattier, less lean, than presently mainstream breeds. Mmmmm, pork fat." I can't even tell you how much better they are. Do it. DO IT. Seriously. Do it.

Posted by: Lauren at November 19, 2013 08:49 AM (hFL/3)

143 >>Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2013 12:49 PM (IXrOn) A wise woman. We 'ettes are hawt stuff.

Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2013 08:49 AM (zDsvJ)

144 Wild turkeys are not at all uncommon, how much do hunting licenses cost?

Posted by: Jim Stephens at November 19, 2013 08:50 AM (golr6)

145 Oooh! I've got some heritage maccaroni! We can make heritage mac'n'cheese and sell it for $50 a serving. Posted by: EC at November 19, 2013 12:47 PM (GQ8sn) Anyone ever have truffle Mac N' Cheese? Wife ordered that once in some restaurant we went to once. I was interested, until the waiter came over with a grater and what looked like the turd of a small weasel and started grating said turd onto the Mac N' Cheese. Pass.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/i][/u][/s] at November 19, 2013 08:50 AM (sbV1u)

146 Then there's the "Heritage, Not Hate" Turkeys that wear Confederate flag hats.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 19, 2013 08:50 AM (ZPrif)

147 105 Got a neighbor who raises emus, wonder if I can talk her into re-branding them as 'heritage emus' and charge way more for a drumstick...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 19, 2013 12:43 PM (5tMRX)


Tell buyers that the emus are Extreme Heritage Turkeys, the birds from which turkeys evolved. Tack an extra 40% onto the price and try not to laugh until they've paid.

Posted by: joncelli at November 19, 2013 08:50 AM (RD7QR)

148 131 I understand another turkey trend right now is to adopt a turkey to save it from being killed. You apparently get a picture of the turkey along with its life story. Kind of like when you adopt those starving kids in Africa.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 19, 2013 12:46 PM (RZ8pf)

That's all fine and good until you're actually alone in a phone booth with a turkey.  That turkey will kick your ass, steal your wallet, violate your wife and stare you dead in the eye like: "you got a problem mfer?"

Turkeys, like most wild creatures, are not to be messed with.

Posted by: tangonine at November 19, 2013 08:50 AM (x3YFz)

149

Kill it yourself. 

That's how you get back to your roots.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2013 08:51 AM (OIl4c)

150 and apparently the price of such a bird big enough to feed his family is going to be around $200. That is a substandard bird, non-union citizen. Log on to www.obamagobbles.gov to avoid penalties.

Posted by: Moochelle at November 19, 2013 08:51 AM (FcR7P)

151 I used to think domestic turkeys were the stupidest animal on the face of the earth because if it rained you had to rush out and drive them into the hen house to keep them from looking up at the rain and drowning.


That was until I moved out in the country here and one of the nearby neighbors had a flock of guinea hens.

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 08:51 AM (FTQyq)

152 "The meat is red...supposedly." Yep. I mean, it's not like beef red, but it is definitely rosey. Something to do with the acidity or some mubmo jumbo I remember seeing on America's Test Kitchen. Regardless, who cares why, they're just better.

Posted by: Lauren at November 19, 2013 08:51 AM (hFL/3)

153

I know a guy who's looking to buy a heritage turkey, and apparently the price of such a bird big enough to feed his family is going to be around $200.

 

 

All. Day. Sucker.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2013 08:51 AM (OIl4c)

154 142 Some friends of mine always invited us for the Fourth of July up one the mountain where her father raised Ostriches. They always had deviled eggs the size of footballs. --- How did they taste? There's a place that sells them online but every time I go to order one they're out of stock.

Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2013 08:52 AM (zDsvJ)

155

135 -

 

Same thing with the starving kids in Africa, unfortunately. 

 

I'm mostly not kidding. 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2013 08:52 AM (TOk1P)

156 Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 19, 2013 12:46 PM (7ObY1) It's a small, small, moron world after all...

Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 19, 2013 08:52 AM (CRY7r)

157 Give me my pumped full of chemicals Butterball and leave me the hell alone.

Posted by: RWC at November 19, 2013 08:52 AM (fWAjv)

158 Free range turkeys surrounded by a damn fence. City people are so gullible about what free range means.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2013 08:53 AM (XH4i8)

159

I like Ace am confused by this creature.

However, I must say the Butterball turkey we had Saturday night for our early T-Day dinner was awesome, so were the rest of the fixings. Thank you Butterball and Mrs. Misanthrope and little Misanthropettes.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 19, 2013 08:53 AM (HVff2)

160 Oooh! I've got some heritage maccaroni! We can make heritage mac'n'cheese and sell it for $50 a serving. Posted by: EC at November 19, 2013 12:47 PM (GQ8sn) ~ Deal! I'll bring the Heritage Old English 800 malt liquor. I know a place I can get it for $20 a bottle.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 19, 2013 08:53 AM (6ahup)

161 145 I tried cooking my turkey upside down but all I ended up with was a regular cooked turkey and a really bad headache! -- LOL

Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2013 08:53 AM (zDsvJ)

162 I hate the annual pardon for the turkey.  Just once, I would love to see a president whip out the hatchet and behead it. 

Posted by: losthusker at November 19, 2013 08:53 AM (rOwM0)

163 Porn Industry fights LA's new mandatory condom laws by rebranding as "Heritage Sex".

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 19, 2013 08:53 AM (ZPrif)

164 164
I know a guy who's looking to buy a heritage turkey, and apparently the price of such a bird big enough to feed his family is going to be around $200.


All. Day. Sucker.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2013 12:51 PM (OIl4c)

Announcing Tango's Turkey Farm.  they're um... heritage and shit and low price of $199/per.

Posted by: tangonine at November 19, 2013 08:53 AM (x3YFz)

165 I am currently offering Heritage Tube Steak for those craving a more authentic and earthy flavor. It's a bit nutty.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 19, 2013 08:53 AM (+eMie)

166
Heirloom Ding-Dongs and Twinkies are where its at Cat.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2013 08:53 AM (iGPSR)

167 "Got a neighbor who raises emus, wonder if I can talk her into re-branding them as 'heritage emus' and charge way more for a drumstick..."

We're gonna need a bigger oven ... For America!

Posted by: Major Appliances, Inc. at November 19, 2013 08:53 AM (HjPtV)

168

Ben Franklin wanted the Turkey to be the U.S. bird symbol instead of the Bald Eagle.

 

My first trip to Alaska I wanted to photograph eagles. I was told the best place to see a lot of them was at the town dump. Yep. A lot of them were there. I found out the bald eagle is a scavenger (trash eater), thief (they will steal from other birds). But they are also hunters and are beautiful in flight.

 

Sorry Ben. Your choice was wrong

Posted by: ExSnipe at November 19, 2013 08:53 AM (57ubW)

169

Wild Turkey American Honey.

 

That is all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 19, 2013 08:54 AM (0HooB)

170 It's a bit nutty Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 19, 2013 12:53 PM (+eMie) Must have used the wrong brine.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/i][/u][/s] at November 19, 2013 08:54 AM (sbV1u)

171 Now "heritage" hogs . . . I'd happily pay a premium for one of those, Meh. Aim for Hoover Hogs....

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 08:54 AM (t+DWU)

172 I wonder if Heritage Turkeys can fly.

Posted by: Les Nessman at November 19, 2013 08:55 AM (8ZskC)

173 98. Canada goose/geese are the absolute worst. We had a flock settle in our yard in march about 3 years ago. What a damn mess they left. I called environmental police neighbor about how to kill them and was told you can't. Get a dog or fake coyote of put something on grass that they find distasteful but wouldn't kill them. We were at our wits end when they finally took off after 6 long days. 53 of those damn things for 6 days = a lot of shit in the yard. I have post traumatic stress from the experience whenever I hearing dog by!

Posted by: Puttanesca, the sauce at November 19, 2013 08:55 AM (AT52Q)

174 149  I went out 2 years back for spring turkey season with some friends, we didn't see anything, although we need to clearcut a part of the farm for strutting (it's on the owner's long term plans.)

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 19, 2013 12:49 PM (GaqMa)



You can't go out and walk around hunting turkeys.  You have to find a "turkey area" first.  Then come out early in the morning and back into brush/bushes all camouflaged up (including a veil).  Then work the turkey call to get them to come to you.

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 08:55 AM (FTQyq)

175 We always have elk roast for thanksgiving. It's not certified heirloom, but if I eat it while wearing a t-shirt with an ironic saying and drink PBR during dinner it should balance out. Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 19, 2013 12:49 PM (+lsX1) Nice. I've got to get my hunting brother to bag one of these and invite me over. He always has plenty of venison and other game meat to serve, but, I don't believe he's ever served elk. Tasty. I'm jealous.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2013 08:55 AM (IXrOn)

176 That was until I moved out in the country here and one of the nearby neighbors had a flock of guinea hens. Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 12:51 PM (FTQyq) Oh now, Vic, I love guineas! The males are so protective of their hens. And they make the cutest noises.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2013 08:55 AM (XH4i8)

177 Sidebar story of Serbian hottie.  She's an advisor in the Department of Foreign Affairs.


Foreign affairs!


Shit.  You.  Not.



Posted by: EC at November 19, 2013 08:55 AM (GQ8sn)

178 I love the Heritage movement.
Remember back when the 2nd Amendment was considered non-controversial?

Yes....let's embrace the direction this is going.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2013 08:55 AM (NDA7a)

179 Curiously enough, in his version of the speech, President Barack Obama’s delivery contained an omission – in a line that every other celebrity delivered as “that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom,” the President left out the words “under God.”

Posted by: unambiguiously semi-anonymous at November 19, 2013 08:55 AM (e8kgV)

180 Probably gonna have individually sized Beef Wellington.  You might call them corn dogs.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at November 19, 2013 08:55 AM (krHnX)

181 The possibilities are almost limitless:  Heritage Kool Whip. 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2013 08:55 AM (TOk1P)

182
We make fun, but you know there are some hundred year old heritage fruitcakes still being re-gifted.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2013 08:55 AM (iGPSR)

183 I am liking all the crossed comments between wild turkey and Wild Turkey they are funny.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 19, 2013 08:55 AM (RZ8pf)

184 Did you hear about the guy in the restaurant who decides to ask the chef a question?

Guy asks the chef, "How do you prepare your turkeys?"
The chef responds

"I just tell them flat out, they ain't gonna make it."

Posted by: navybrat at November 19, 2013 08:55 AM (fWTAl)

185 Hear one fly by

Posted by: Puttanesca, the sauce at November 19, 2013 08:55 AM (AT52Q)

186 Why isn't anyone discussing Heritage Golden Retriever? When I was a kid, that's all we ate on Thanksgiving. Good times, good times.

Posted by: President Barack Obama at November 19, 2013 08:55 AM (7ObY1)

187 I have some heritage hot dogs in my freezer. $100

Posted by: CJ at November 19, 2013 08:56 AM (9KqcB)

188 What time is dinner. I will bring the Green Bean Casserole. Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 19, 2013 12:45 PM (OWjjx) I plan on letting it slow roast for about 8-9 hrs... you might want to bring some booze instead. And don't put any of those damned french onion things on the beans or your gonna get 404'ed out of my house.

Posted by: Cajun Caret at November 19, 2013 08:56 AM (UZQM8)

189 181 It's a bit nutty Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 19, 2013 12:53 PM (+eMie)


Must have used the wrong brine.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 19, 2013 12:54 PM (sbV1u)


You got your . . . in my peanut butter!!

Posted by: flounder at November 19, 2013 08:56 AM (Kkt/i)

190 191 Probably gonna have individually sized Beef Wellington. You might call them corn dogs.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at November 19, 2013 12:55 PM (krHnX)

In the military, while deployed, often Doritos were X-mas/T-giving dinner.  More than a few occasions.

Posted by: tangonine at November 19, 2013 08:57 AM (x3YFz)

191 I called environmental police neighbor about how to kill them and was told you can't. I would take that as a personal challenge.

Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2013 08:57 AM (FcR7P)

192 Guy asks the chef, "How do you prepare your turkeys?" The chef responds "I just tell them flat out, they ain't gonna make it." Posted by: navybrat at November 19, 2013 12:55 PM (fWTAl) LOL!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 19, 2013 08:57 AM (bCEmE)

193 Heritage turkeys? Ass load of the pea brained shit peckers running the government.

Posted by: maddogg at November 19, 2013 08:57 AM (xWW96)

194 Give me my pumped full of chemicals Butterball and leave me the hell alone. Posted by: RWC ----------------------------- I'm happy to say that Mrs. Hammer's employer is handing out Butterball turkeys to employees for Christmas. Call us lazy, but call us sated.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 19, 2013 08:57 AM (aDwsi)

195 193
We make fun, but you know there are some hundred year old heritage fruitcakes still being re-gifted.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2013 12:55 PM (iGPSR)


I have one that is about 8 years old in my fridge.  Just cut a chunk off, now and then, and re-baste with brandy.  Yum.

Posted by: flounder at November 19, 2013 08:58 AM (Kkt/i)

196 Someone cue up the Timmah and Gobbles South Park montage.


Posted by: EC at November 19, 2013 08:58 AM (GQ8sn)

197

Free-range heritage Hobo is available in selected areas everywhere.

Usually marinaded in Value-Rite Vodka.

Posted by: Smokey the Gourmet at November 19, 2013 08:58 AM (h0T3E)

198 Hundreds of years ago people shot their own turkeys then died of smallpox.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 19, 2013 08:58 AM (REkaf)

199 Valium infused brownie, my Qyeen? Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 19, 2013 12:43 PM (sbV1u) Yes, please. Mommy was making noises the other day about having a small Thanksgiving because my brother and sil are staying in Charleston and it's just going to be me and Dad and Mommy. I may, possibly, maybe, sort of, kind of pitched a wee fit at the thought of not having a full out Thanksgiving spread. I love Thanksgiving and look forward to Mommy's stuffing all year. This is the point where I mention how one year my brother brought four single guys up with him and we had a huge huge spread and then Mommy and I packaged up containers for them to take home and everyone was so happy. Right up to the point where my dad went to the fridge a few hours later to make up a sammich and we realized that we didn't keep any left overs for us. Oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth were epic.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 19, 2013 08:58 AM (VtjlW)

200 " It’s a draw in that people are looking to get back to the roots of how things were done hundreds of years ago before things were changed,” said Valerie Lafferty, the co-owner of Springfield Farms " One of the reasons our groceries are as cheap as they are is the changes that have been made in producing the food. Universities have developed varieties of fruits, and vegetables that can withstand the handling and time involved with cross country shipping. They've also emphasized looks. The stuff often doesn't taste as good as earlier varieties. Those big, red strawberries from California don't come close to tasting as good as the ones grown here in Michigan. But the varieties grown in Michigan start to deteriorate within a day of being picked, and we can now get strawberries all year around at a reasonable price. Those dark red delicious apples are an abomination as far as taste. Those things are popular strictly because of looks. My parents had a fruit farm when I was young. There were much better tasting apples. Fortunately the changes in the apple industry have been for the better. The newer varieties like Gala, and Honeycrisp are ten times better than red delicious.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 19, 2013 08:58 AM (QvC2u)

201 We make fun, but you know there are some hundred year old heritage fruitcakes still being re-gifted. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2013 12:55 PM (iGPSR) haha, so true!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2013 08:58 AM (IXrOn)

202 I'm doing a Prime Rib this year, I expect to pay about the same.

Posted by: Cajun Caret at November 19, 2013 12:44 PM (UZQM

**



Excellent idea! We've been doing beef/pork roasts and a ham the last few years. Prime Rib and/or a Brisket sounds delish.


 

Posted by: A. Weiner at November 19, 2013 08:58 AM (wmU4G)

203 You can't go out and walk around hunting turkeys. You have to find a "turkey area" first. Then come out early in the morning and back into brush/bushes all camouflaged up (including a veil). Then work the turkey call to get them to come to you.
Posted by: Vic

First, you need to find a turkey season, otherwise, that'll (eventually) be the most expensive turkey you will never eat.

Posted by: mrp at November 19, 2013 08:58 AM (HjPtV)

204 Damn perverted sock.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 19, 2013 08:59 AM (wmU4G)

205 I like fruitcake. I think I am going to buy one this year from Assumption Abby.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 19, 2013 08:59 AM (RZ8pf)

206 My favorite turkey is the "free" turkey my employer buys from the local Hutterites.  And they deliver.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2013 08:59 AM (UzPAd)

207

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2013 12:55 PM (iGPSR

 

I love fruit cake especially if it is soaked in brandy. Yum, fricking yum. Not so good with Wild Turkey.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 19, 2013 08:59 AM (HVff2)

208 210 Hundreds of years ago people shot their own turkeys then died of smallpox.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 19, 2013 12:58 PM (REkaf)

^^^ the liberal view of american history in 13 words.

Posted by: tangonine at November 19, 2013 08:59 AM (x3YFz)

209 Guy asks the chef, "How do you prepare your turkeys?" The chef responds "I just tell them flat out, they ain't gonna make it." Laughing like the little helmet wearing kid on the short bus.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 08:59 AM (t+DWU)

210

I called environmental police neighbor about how to kill them and was told you can't.

 

 

Au Contraire, mon frere!

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2013 09:00 AM (OIl4c)

211 209 Free-range heritage Hobo is available in selected areas everywhere.
Usually marinaded in Value-Rite Vodka their own piss and vomit.

Posted by: Smokey the Gourmet at November 19, 2013 12:58 PM (h0T3E)

Posted by: flounder at November 19, 2013 09:00 AM (Kkt/i)

212 The tasty, tasty, Ossabaw Island wild hog:

http://tinyurl.com/k7h52zv

They run wild on the island just to the south of us.  They're the new porcine "thing."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 09:00 AM (lVPtV)

213 I'm going to miss going outside after the big meal for that sweet, sweet cigarette. Maybe just one. What could it hurt?

Posted by: jwest at November 19, 2013 09:00 AM (u2a4R)

214 I like fruitcake. Your moron card, please. Jeebus.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at November 19, 2013 09:00 AM (659DL)

215 Interesting. I'm not going to knock it. But it's a new thing I just heard of, and I'm temperamentally inclined against new things I just heard of.

Heritage Turkeys? Awesome, lets turn back all technology made by evil corperations!

Except our iPhones, and iPads so we can order some pre-agrarian corn ears! Maybe get working on a heritage Wooping Cough kid or two?

... Throw in some dysentery and a dead oxen for fun.

Oh wait, we already have the Pertussis part thanks to those 'environmentally conscious' hippy fucks.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 19, 2013 09:00 AM (jhI6f)

216 Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 12:55 PM (FTQyq) I was referring to the strutting of the toms. There's not a good area for it, so we think the turkeys clear out to somewhere else during mating season (because we see a ton of them during deer season.) We moved a few times because we'd set the decoys sit, call, wait a while, call repeat, and then after an hour if we didn't hear anything we'd move to a new part of the farm. MO has really odd spring rules, you can't be out past 1:30PM, so that changes our strategy.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 19, 2013 09:00 AM (GaqMa)

217 Curiously enough, in his version of the speech, President Barack Obama’s delivery contained an omission – in a line that every other celebrity delivered as “that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom,” the President left out the words “under God.” Posted by: unambiguiously semi-anonymous at November 19, 2013 12:55 PM (e8kgV) because he is a cunt. See out of deference to Ace, I normally now say scrunt to be polite, but obama is a cunt. Sorry it just fits

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2013 09:00 AM (t3UFN)

218 Ace- There's a serious point here. We as a society have become so wealthy that we demand that are food be made the old, inefficient, expensive way. Which is fine. But our economic development was served by huge investments in the farm economy by way of capital and technology including GMO. We now have the luxury to pay more for low-yielding non-GMO foods. The problem becomes when our liberal friends want to impose our value set on developing economies that have not benefited from investments in farm capital and technology. To demand that people who barely get enough to eat grow their food in an inefficient and low-yielding manner (no GMOs etc) is immoral.

Posted by: scofflawx, PhD Candidate at November 19, 2013 09:00 AM (Mmwdu)

219 I have a jar of Heritage Mayonnaise in the cupboard. It might qualify as a WMD at this point.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 19, 2013 09:01 AM (aDwsi)

220 My hubby will be eating rations and eating in the military barracks in the Philippines this Thanksgiving. I wonder if they'll serve turkey rations... He always comes back so skinny...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2013 09:01 AM (IXrOn)

221 I buy grocery store red delicious apples to give the horses. 4 bucks for a 3 pound bag. They suck. Hard as rocks and mealy at the same time. Also, they must sort them with hammers, they're always bruised.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 19, 2013 09:01 AM (ZshNr)

222 Michigan apples... Spys and McIntosh  cider presses  roast turkey Mom's giblet gravy with morel mushrooms..

Posted by: mrp at November 19, 2013 09:01 AM (HjPtV)

223 Between all this tryptophan  and the hawt Serbian chick in the sidebar, I'm gonna need a nap.

Posted by: Guy who needs a nap at November 19, 2013 09:01 AM (4I3Uo)

224 Meh. Aim for Hoover Hogs... . Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 12:54 PM (t+DWU) Enjoy your leprosy!

Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 19, 2013 09:02 AM (CRY7r)

225 Just saw a bunch of  turkeys in me mom's yard a few weeks/months ago. A strange sight.

Posted by: Baldy at November 19, 2013 09:02 AM (2bql3)

226

117 Speaking of which, did you know that goddam son of a bitch took out the word "God" when he recently read the Gettysburg Address???

See the Gateway Pundit

Posted by: DAve at November 19, 2013 09:02 AM (b7yum)

227 230 Ace-

There's a serious point here. We as a society have become so wealthy that we demand that are food be made the old, inefficient, expensive way. Which is fine. But our economic development was served by huge investments in the farm economy by way of capital and technology including GMO. We now have the luxury to pay more for low-yielding non-GMO foods. The problem becomes when our liberal friends want to impose our value set on developing economies that have not benefited from investments in farm capital and technology. To demand that people who barely get enough to eat grow their food in an inefficient and low-yielding manner (no GMOs etc) is immoral.

Posted by: scofflawx, PhD Candidate at November 19, 2013 01:00 PM (Mmwdu)

I shot 3 pandas, downed 2 beers and surfed pr0n while reading that.  i'm still not sure if I agree or disagree but, hey, motivation?

Posted by: tangonine at November 19, 2013 09:02 AM (x3YFz)

228 155 Wild turkeys are not at all uncommon, how much do hunting licenses cost?

Posted by: Jim Stephens at November 19, 2013 12:50 PM (golr6)


Depends on whether you buy one or not.

Posted by: tcn at November 19, 2013 09:02 AM (3kDQa)

229 I prefer the fat ones force fed that have big breasts and thighs.

OH, your talking about Turkey's I thought I stumbled on the Cheerleader thread early....carry on.

Posted by: Paladin at November 19, 2013 09:02 AM (E1aoU)

230 I understand another turkey trend right now is to adopt a turkey to save
it from being killed. You apparently get a picture of the turkey along
with its life story. Kind of like when you adopt those starving kids in
Africa.

So basically someone's getting paid twice for the same turkey.

I'm really pissed I didn't think of this.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 19, 2013 09:02 AM (ZKzrr)

231 The heritage products are great if you can afford them, but these changes that Lafferty talks about have resulted in moderate income people being able to get a 12 pound turkey on sale in Michigan for a little over $7. Many times during the year you can get a quart of strawberries for $1-$2. You can get bags of lettuce salad for $1.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 19, 2013 09:03 AM (QvC2u)

232 Oh come on I can't be the only moron(ette) who likes fruitcake. You will have to pry my moron card from my cold dead hands.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 19, 2013 09:03 AM (RZ8pf)

233

I'm cynical.

 

I'm a gardner - a pretty serious one - and allow me to say: Heirloom Tomatoes Are OK.  Just OK.

 

I'll concede that they are waaay better than what you buy in the store, typically... but what you buy in the store is normally a type of tomato bred to offer store-specific characteristics.

 

It's not as if a Burpee's Big Boy isn't as good as an Heirloom.  There's a reason that Burpee's and other early-hybridizers did what they did.  "Taste" was often part of that reason.

 

So I question this turkey thing.  Are they really better tasting?  Are we saying that the Organic turkeys aren't tasty enough?

 

Maybe.  I'm open to the idea of a "turkier-tasting turkey."

 

But somebody had better really, really vouch for it.  Because I don't need a turkey that costs as much as sirloin...

Posted by: RobM1981 at November 19, 2013 09:03 AM (FgxCS)

234 On Monday the White House pressed the Pentagon to rein in Tricare costs and begin a new round of base closings as the Senate took up the National Defense Authorization Act on the militaryÂ’s 2014 budget. ??? Save money on Tricare but break the budget on obamacare? You fuckin SOB commie bastard

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2013 09:03 AM (t3UFN)

235 Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 19, 2013 01:00 PM (jhI6f) Actually there's a place not far from here that grows heritage corn. They make corn cob pipes (the only company left in the country that does that) and the modern corn cob isn't big enough or strong enough for pipe making.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 19, 2013 09:03 AM (GaqMa)

236 Maybe just one. What could it hurt? Posted by: jwest ----------------- Light 'em if you got 'em.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 19, 2013 09:03 AM (aDwsi)

237 I like fruitcake. The blonde neighbor?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 09:03 AM (t+DWU)

238

Apples?

 

Pink Lady's for eating and Northern Spies for cooking.

 

 

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2013 09:03 AM (OIl4c)

239

When I'm feeling the gumption, I'll take a shotgun out to the ranch and get my own turkey.

 

But usually I just get the family package from Bill Miller's.

 

Cooking the damn things are more trouble than the hunting.

Posted by: Azenogoth at November 19, 2013 09:03 AM (f6ZLT)

240  226 I like fruitcake.

Your moron card, please.

Jeebus.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at November 19, 2013 01:00 PM (659DL) -----------------------My Mom (RIP) has a killer recipe that the Mrs. makes for me. No one likes it but me. So I get 3-4 loaves all to myself. I will keep my moron card and platinum membership thank you.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 19, 2013 09:04 AM (HVff2)

241 They run wild on the island just to the south of us. They're the new porcine "thing." Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 01:00 PM (lVPtV) World over 400 years ago; they remained isolated for all that time and, while they've gotten smaller over the years due to insular dwarfism, Ossabaws also adapted to the food cycles of the island by storing tremendous amounts of body fat. Bacon from the gawds...

Posted by: Cajun Caret at November 19, 2013 09:04 AM (UZQM8)

242 Hunted Wild Turkey for 30 years, tastes great , and also Wild Hog is awesome.. The added benefit is my wife gets rid of me pestering her for a while I am at my buddy;s drinking beer and scotch for days..

Posted by: 7 Days in May at November 19, 2013 09:04 AM (j6DTo)

243 I think it is of a piece with other heritage foods - pork, beef, etc. The idea is that mass production selected for animals with certain qualities that maximized profit and marketing while sacrificing taste - for example, supermarket chickens are bred to have over-large breasts and whitish skin, but they don't taste nearly as good as quality bred chickens. I find that they taste washed out, with really no taste at all. Heritage turkeys will have smaller breasts in proportion to dark meat, and a more pronounced flavor all over.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 19, 2013 09:04 AM (lh89W)

244 I shot 3 pandas, downed 2 beers and surfed pr0n while reading that. i'm still not sure if I agree or disagree but, hey, motivation? If you are not cooking the pandas over a burning tire, you are a RINO.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at November 19, 2013 09:04 AM (659DL)

245 Reason #4389 I'm a vegetarian.

Posted by: Evil Libertarian at November 19, 2013 09:04 AM (mSg7b)

246 and circa can to algebra.  You just have to replace "x" with (female bits) and he'll solve for it.  Trust me, here.

Posted by: tangonine at November 19, 2013 09:05 AM (x3YFz)

247 My Mom (RIP) has a killer recipe that the Mrs. makes for me. No one likes it but me. So I get 3-4 loaves all to myself. I will keep my moron card and platinum membership thank you. Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 19, 2013 01:04 PM (HVff2) It used to be that way with my Mom's Sweet Potato Pecan Pie... my brother's have caught on... war is upon us.

Posted by: Cajun Caret at November 19, 2013 09:05 AM (UZQM8)

248 Since I've already had T-Day Dinner and the Mrs. will be working on Thanksgiving. 3 NFL games and Johnsonville Brats on the grill with potato salad and coleslaw are on the menu.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 19, 2013 09:05 AM (HVff2)

249 "Light 'em if you got 'em." Got half a pack that's been sitting on the workbench in the garage for over a year. They should be just about ripe by now.

Posted by: jwest at November 19, 2013 09:05 AM (u2a4R)

250 It's a well known fact that a vast majority of you morons own a sock or two that can "stand up" on their own if you know what I mean. It's also a well known fact that I helped you contribute some of the "starch"  that allows said stocks to remain upright.

Posted by: Maria Bartiromo at November 19, 2013 09:05 AM (Tb01R)

251 Save money on Tricare but break the budget on obamacare? You fuckin SOB commie bastard

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2013 01:03 PM (t3UFN)


First you won't let me get them killed in Syria, now you won't let me get them killed here.  Where WILL you let me get them killed?  Huh, genius?

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 19, 2013 09:05 AM (+H/11)

252 225 I'm going to miss going outside after the big meal for that sweet, sweet cigarette.

Maybe just one. What could it hurt?

Posted by: jwest at November 19, 2013 01:00 PM (u2a4R)


Have a cigar instead and claim that that's exactly what Miles Standish did after the first Thanksgiving. Then hope your questioner doesn't know anything about US history.

Posted by: joncelli at November 19, 2013 09:06 AM (RD7QR)

253 Save money on Tricare but break the budget on obamacare? You fuckin SOB commie bastard Posted by: Nevergiveup ---------------- You probably already know that under Tricare, veterans kids do *not* get the coverage until age 26 that Obamacare 'adult children' get.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 19, 2013 09:06 AM (aDwsi)

254 To demand that people
who barely get enough to eat grow their food in an inefficient and
low-yielding manner (no GMOs etc) is immoral.


Feelings > morality


Look at all the hassle Borlaug got for trying to make a new type of wheat that could grow in extreme environments.  Enviros and liberals (BIRM) just can't leave people alone.

Posted by: EC at November 19, 2013 09:06 AM (GQ8sn)

255 257 I shot 3 pandas, downed 2 beers and surfed pr0n while reading that. i'm still not sure if I agree or disagree but, hey, motivation?

If you are not cooking the pandas over a burning tire, you are a RINO.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at November 19, 2013 01:04 PM (659DL)

On it!

Posted by: tangonine at November 19, 2013 09:06 AM (x3YFz)

256 You can't go out and walk around hunting turkeys. You have to find a "turkey area" first. Then come out early in the morning and back into brush/bushes all camouflaged up (including a veil). Then work the turkey call to get them to come to you.

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 12:55 PM (FTQyq)


Or you could just drive up to the local corn field and plug 'em from the road.



Depends on your area, I guess.

Posted by: tcn at November 19, 2013 09:06 AM (3kDQa)

257 I'm starting to suspect Thanksgiving is coming up? I better start practicing my bullshit small talk. Hahaha, really! Yeah, it's nice out! Fry it! You don't say!

Posted by: UWP at November 19, 2013 09:07 AM (fdXMW)

258 11 I'll bet they're gamey. Posted by: John the Libertarian at November 19, 2013 12:29

------------------------


Homophobe.

Posted by: irright at November 19, 2013 09:07 AM (8GKDa)

259 I am currently offering Heritage Tube Steak for those craving a more authentic and earthy flavor. Good one, my liege.

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 19, 2013 09:07 AM (QupBk)

260 Michigan apples... Spys and McIntosh cider presses roast turkey Mom's giblet gravy with morel mushrooms.. Posted by: mrp at November 19, 2013 01:01 PM (HjPtV) I grew up in SW Michigan. The first time I went to the store after we moved from there to PA and I was sent to buy apples I stood there staring at the display and said, out loud, "Where are the rest of them?" Oh oh oh oh oh oh fellow Michiganders will understand this. I found a place nearby that sells Blue Moon ice cream. I nearly wept with joy.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 19, 2013 09:07 AM (VtjlW)

261 "The tasty, tasty, Ossabaw Island wild hog:"

One of my brother-in-laws is raising them.  I cooked two pork shoulders from one and they disappeared within four hours at a family reunion.

Posted by: mrp at November 19, 2013 09:07 AM (HjPtV)

262 Pink Lady's for eating That the same thing Toronto's mayor said!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 09:08 AM (t+DWU)

263 First off, the reason the type turkey like the heritage represents went away is because the public wanted a moister birds with bigger breasts (now stop that!).   So now what we have is people who so need to appear superior that they will believe that an inferior turkey is a superior one if it has a good sounding name like "hetitage".

Posted by: Thresherman at November 19, 2013 09:08 AM (lXjP/)

264 My Mom's fruit cake was versatile in that if you couldn't eat it you could  use it for a boat anchor

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at November 19, 2013 09:08 AM (R8hU8)

265 We'll probably have 30 or so people at our house for Thanksgiving. Looks like cooking two turkeys will be my job this year.

Posted by: Countrysquire at November 19, 2013 09:08 AM (LSJmV)

266 >>Ah, Turkeys and Bacon. >>Bacon Wrapped Turkey >>http://tinyurl.com/aek73k THE LINK DIDN'T WORK. I NEED A WORKING LINK.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 19, 2013 09:08 AM (SUKHu)

267 They should be just about ripe by now. Posted by: jwest ----------------- Congrats for holding off. I respect your self-control, and good judgement. I'm thinking that those smokes, at this point, might just crumble into snuff. Btw. I have a pack of Camels, that I found in the pocket of my dad's flight jacket, circa 1944.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 19, 2013 09:08 AM (aDwsi)

268

266: "You probably already know that under Tricare, veterans kids do *not* get the coverage until age 26 that Obamacare 'adult children' get."

 

They do if they are enrolled in full time college. But it's until 24, not 26.

Posted by: Azenogoth at November 19, 2013 09:09 AM (LJpVo)

269 We used to do the organic-fresh turkey thing. Then we realized it doesn't taste any different from a quality frozen turkey for about 1/3 the price. So now we just tell people it's a fresh turkey.

Posted by: Caliban at November 19, 2013 09:09 AM (DrC22)

270 Country folks have been eating $200 turkeys for years now and didn't know it.

Posted by: pendejo grande at November 19, 2013 09:09 AM (OZW5B)

271 215  First, you need to find a turkey season, otherwise, that'll (eventually) be the most expensive turkey you will never eat.

Posted by: mrp at November 19, 2013 12:58 PM (HjPtV)



In the States I have got a hunting license in they have always had a free rule book that gave the seasons for everything.



But as I said up above I haven't liked wild turkey that much.  I prefer doves.  The problem there is you have to know some farmer willing to allow you to hunt on their fields.  The one I knew here died a few years ago.


While at home in GA this past weekend I was talking to my brother about it and he said the farmers were now making it a "big buisness".  They were planting millet or corn tat they would knock down just before the season opened and charging dove hunters several hundred dollars per day to hunt doves in the field. 



Now that would be some expensive eating there.

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 09:09 AM (FTQyq)

272 "Light 'em if you got 'em." Got half a pack that's been sitting on the workbench in the garage for over a year. They should be just about ripe by now. Free range hobo bait!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 09:09 AM (t+DWU)

273
Do the heritage turkeys come with shot pellets you have to pick out?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2013 09:10 AM (iGPSR)

274 The only Wild Turkey I'm having comes from a bottle.

Incidentally, glatt kosher turkeys do run about $80 each.


Posted by: looking closely at November 19, 2013 09:10 AM (eO8aI)

275 >>First off, the reason the type turkey like the heritage represents went away is because the public wanted a moister birds with bigger breasts Blah blah heteronormative blah blah blah.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 19, 2013 09:10 AM (SUKHu)

276 EC said: Look at all the hassle Borlaug got for trying to make a new type of wheat that could grow in extreme environments. Enviros and liberals (BIRM) just can't leave people alone.

It's actually worse than that.

The same green progressive environmentalist scum which derides the use of genetic modification and demands the use of sub-optimal yielding crops are the same folks who preach about AGW. Yet, one of the largest reductions in carbon emissions have come from the more efficient use of crop land and resultant less deforestation that can result (thanks to Borlaug, et al).

They are honestly too stupid to see this.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 19, 2013 09:10 AM (jhI6f)

277 Can't imagine no moron has brought this up yet! Gary Cooper as Alvin York:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCCpRfB5aUU

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 19, 2013 09:10 AM (HubSo)

278 I have some nice shallow well Heritage Water available. Nothing says 'authentic' like Typhus.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 19, 2013 09:10 AM (aDwsi)

279 You probably already know that under Tricare, veterans kids do *not* get the coverage until age 26 that Obamacare 'adult children' get. Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 19, 2013 01:06 PM (aDwsi) No, but to be honest they still can get Tricare for around $240 a month which is not a bad deal.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2013 09:10 AM (t3UFN)

280

They were planting millet or corn tat they would knock down just before the season opened and charging dove hunters several hundred dollars per day to hunt doves in the field.

 

Same farmers will pay you to shoot their pigeons.  Which are doves.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2013 09:10 AM (OIl4c)

281 Ossabaw Island hogs are also living (and thriving) on a smaller island near us.  A friend of ours occasionally boats over and traps a young one and brings it to his place to fatten up. 

Our son went camping over there with the family several years ago, and the next morning they were eating cinnamon rolls, and a large hog strolled up and began licking everyone's fingers. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 09:11 AM (lVPtV)

282 286 Do the heritage turkeys come with shot pellets you have to pick out? Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2013 01:10 PM (iGPSR) Authentic... $100 more.

Posted by: Cajun Caret at November 19, 2013 09:11 AM (UZQM8)

283 Or you could just drive up to the local corn field and plug 'em from the road.

Depends on your area, I guess.

Posted by: tcn at November 19, 2013 01:06 PM (3kDQa)

Right?  Well said.

Opportunity.

It's why we have a rifle in the car at all times.  You can't have a round in the chamber here because *cough* you might be poaching.  And it takes all of 0.5s to load a round so.

I can honestly say we don't and never have killed for sport.  Just feeding the fam.  Even when I was a teenager and we were spotlighting Elk.  Dressed 'em, quartered them, ate every bit.

Only an asshole kills for fun.

Posted by: tangonine at November 19, 2013 09:11 AM (x3YFz)

284 http://tinyurl.com/2d6wgcz blech spit hurl ughh

Posted by: RWC at November 19, 2013 09:11 AM (fWAjv)

285 "I grew up in SW Michigan. The first time I went to the store after we moved from there to PA and I was sent to buy apples I stood there staring at the display and said, out loud, "Where are the rest of them?" "

Yes.  All of my kin came from there (Berrien County).  Mother's parents owned a blueberry farm.  My folks were excellent morel mushroom hunters.  And the apples.  The trip to Traverse City for cherries.  The bracing wind off Lake Michigan.

Posted by: mrp at November 19, 2013 09:11 AM (HjPtV)

286 Shhh, don't tell a liberal until they have a mouthful that you can get them for almost free out in woods.


With a shotgun.  Mind.  Blown.

Posted by: dogfish at November 19, 2013 09:11 AM (nsOJa)

287 Do the heritage turkeys come with shot pellets you have to pick out? Posted by: Guy Mohawk --------------------------------- Head shot. .222

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 19, 2013 09:12 AM (aDwsi)

288 Nood!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 09:12 AM (t+DWU)

289 KABUL – While many Americans have been led to believe the war in Afghanistan will soon be over, a draft of a key US-Afghan security deal obtained by NBC NEWS shows the United States is prepared to maintain military outposts in Afghanistan for many years to come, and pay to support hundreds of thousands of Afghan security forces. The wide-ranging document, still unsigned by the United States and Afghanistan, has the potential to commit thousands of American troops to Afghanistan and spend billions of US taxpayer dollars. The document outlines what appears to be the start of a new, open-ended military commitment in Afghanistan in the name of training and continuing to fight al-Qaeda. The war in Afghanistan doesn’t seem to be ending, but renewed under new, scaled-down US-Afghan terms. ???? I have a hard time understanding this

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2013 09:12 AM (t3UFN)

290

Ossabaw Island hogs

 

Are we talking Rosie O'Donnell types?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 19, 2013 09:12 AM (HVff2)

291

spotlighting Elk

 

Hope you had a damage permit.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2013 09:12 AM (OIl4c)

292 OT: I've been reading up on WWI to prepare for the centennial next year. I blame the Serbians as much as anyone for the war. But that sidebar piece makes me feel better disposed toward them.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 19, 2013 09:12 AM (FjmEm)

293 glatt kosher turkeys do run about $80 each.

Posted by: looking closely at November 19, 2013 01:10 PM (eO8aI)

I'll take a regular kosher turkey for $40.

"Glatt" is bullshit.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2013 09:13 AM (oJ5Fd)

294 After paying 3X for an Obamacare policy all I can afford is rat-on-a-stick

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 19, 2013 09:14 AM (Xlbr8)

295 So now what we have is people who so need to appear superior that they will believe that an inferior turkey is a superior one if it has a good sounding name like "hetitage".

Posted by: Thresherman at November 19, 2013 01:08 PM (lXjP/)


And you have just defined the "hipster douche." Pretentious mincing little faggots, all of 'em.

Posted by: tcn at November 19, 2013 09:14 AM (3kDQa)

296 I prefer the fat ones force fed that have big breasts and thighs.

And we're back to a football thread.

Posted by: DaveA at November 19, 2013 09:14 AM (DL2i+)

297 Only an asshole kills for fun. Posted by: tangonine ---------------------------- I have trouble with 'sport' hunters. That dust-up the other day about the babe who posed with her lion bothered me too. Hunting is one thing, murder for sport is another thing altogether.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 19, 2013 09:15 AM (aDwsi)

298 "307 After paying 3X for an Obamacare policy all I can afford is rat-on-a-stick"

You should be grateful that I let you have the stick.

Posted by: Barky O'Stumblefuck at November 19, 2013 09:16 AM (1Rgee)

299 Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 01:09 PM (FTQyq)

Georgia has lots of wild boar too.

That is great eating if they aren't old and tough.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2013 09:16 AM (oJ5Fd)

300 3 NFL games and Johnsonville Brats on the grill with potato salad and coleslaw are on the menu.

Do you have Lakefront?  I'll bring pie.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 19, 2013 09:17 AM (ZKzrr)

301 The war in Afghanistan doesnÂ’t seem to be ending, but renewed under new, scaled-down US-Afghan terms.

????

I have a hard time understanding this

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2013 01:12 PM (t3UFN)


*******************************


We don't need US combat troops in Afghanistan any more. But if they are going to keep up the fight, they do need medevac, intelligence, and logistics help, plus our special operators need someplace in the region to operate from (you know, those Iran folks next door?) and the Afghans are still missing a generation of sergeants and mid-level officers that we can train and advise. If we had kept a decent stay-behind element in Iraq we'd be a lot better off today. Let's not do anything stupid in Afghanistan as well.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 19, 2013 09:17 AM (HubSo)

302 After paying 3X for an Obamacare policy all I can afford is rat-on-a-stick Posted by: Purp ---------------- Pro Tip: Look for the Heritage Rats-on-a-stick. Superior to farm raised rats.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 19, 2013 09:17 AM (aDwsi)

303 They are honestly too stupid to see this.



Fixed.

Posted by: EC at November 19, 2013 09:17 AM (GQ8sn)

304 You should be grateful that I let you have the stick. The stick will be illegal any moment now.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at November 19, 2013 09:17 AM (659DL)

305 Remarkably, I used to hunt hogs at Hilton Head...., then the carpetbaggers showed up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 19, 2013 09:18 AM (aDwsi)

306 Yes. All of my kin came from there (Berrien County). Mother's parents owned a blueberry farm. My folks were excellent morel mushroom hunters. And the apples. The trip to Traverse City for cherries. The bracing wind off Lake Michigan. Posted by: mrp at November 19, 2013 01:11 PM (HjPtV) I grew up in Berrien County.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 19, 2013 09:18 AM (VtjlW)

307 318 Remarkably, I used to hunt hogs at Hilton Head...., then the carpetbaggers showed up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 19, 2013 01:18 PM (aDwsi)



You can get a permit to hunt on Ossabaw.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 09:18 AM (lVPtV)

308 If you want great beef that is good for you try tallgrassbeef.com. It's grass fed, but more importantly grass finished. That increases beneficial things like Omega 3's and CLA's. Better for you than farm raised salmon.

Posted by: Jeff at November 19, 2013 09:21 AM (MOSsR)

309 293  Same farmers will pay you to shoot their pigeons. Which are doves.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2013 01:10 PM (OIl4c)


I don't think they are exactly the same, although in the same family.  I have shot pigeons but it was inside the city during an authorized pigeon shoot.  I didn't eat them though.  I had a whole game bag full and an elderly gent who looked hungry came up and asked me what I was going to do with them. 


I gave them to him.

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 09:21 AM (FTQyq)

310 Ace has another OBamcide post up

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 09:22 AM (FTQyq)

311 Dogfish -

This is why you shouldn't read AoS in class. I just burst out laughing in the middle of the lecture hall.

Derrr... liberals paying $200 for something you can probably find in your neighbor's yard, picking at his grass.

Posted by: WolfinNC at November 19, 2013 09:23 AM (s9v1K)

312 I grew up in Berrien County. Posted by: alexthechick

Dang.  Watervliet.

Posted by: mrp at November 19, 2013 09:23 AM (HjPtV)

313

I don't think they are exactly the same, although in the same family. I have shot pigeons but it was inside the city during an authorized pigeon shoot.

 

 

Yeah, you don't want to hunt them in the city...but out on the farm / ranch you won't be able to tell them apart.   

 

 Pigeon (Rock Dove) are bigger.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2013 09:24 AM (OIl4c)

314 I can't wait for Heritage cigarettes. And I'm not even a smoker.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 19, 2013 09:26 AM (sCO74)

315 Dang. Watervliet. Posted by: mrp at November 19, 2013 01:23 PM (HjPtV) Holy. Fucking. Shit. I grew up literally next door. Go Comets!

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 19, 2013 09:26 AM (VtjlW)

316 If you like your deus ex machina, you get to keep your deus ex machina.

Posted by: RWC at November 19, 2013 09:26 AM (fWAjv)

317 Kill it yourself.
That's how you get back to your roots.

Don't forget the joy of plucking.

Posted by: Paladin at November 19, 2013 09:26 AM (LtaK3)

318 1 And I like getting you all off beef. Evi. L. Bloggerlady One word too many.

Posted by: Original Roy at November 19, 2013 09:28 AM (Dg1cR)

319
Wild turkey tastes like store turkey only with a certain - flavor - that makes most people wish they'd bought the turkey at a store.

I've eaten pigeon and carp, folks. Trust me on this.

Let drunk Uncle Bob ruin Thanksgiving, not the bird.

(Rattlesnake is delicious, btw.)

Posted by: CozMark (Platinum Member) at November 19, 2013 09:30 AM (6QN3y)

320 And wouldn't the key piece of information be WTF is the difference ? The turkeys you buy now were specifically bred for characteristics WE WANT. Gosh, I'd sure love to pay through the nose for a turkey with NONE of those! Brilliant!

Posted by: deadrody at November 19, 2013 09:30 AM (b2D8X)

321 94 "Grass fed beef I kinda understand (there's some biochemistry behind that.)" There's "biochemistry behind" pastured (raised where they can actually run around and eat bugs and are not fed hormones, antibiotics and lots of corn and soybeans) turkeys too - and it's the same as for grass fed beef - less omega 6's, more omega 3 fats, more vitamins. Heritage turkeys grown in the usual way are probably not too much different than the usual bird - but whatever floats one's boat. Note to a few who have written about "fresh" vs "frozen" - that is NOT a heritage turkey - it's just the same old turkey. Incidentally, most 'fresh' turkeys (unless you can go to a farm and have them slaughter one for you) are actually partly frozen. They have to be shipped at a freezing temperature in the US - so the longer they spend in transit, the more ice crystals form in the meat. For my taste there's not a bit of difference between 'fresh' and 'frozen' supermarket turkey OR chicken. I've had heritage pastured turkeys. (Wild turkey would be ideal, but sometimes the wild ones run around and fly a bit much and you don't know how old they are, and thus how tough and stringy they will be.) These turkeys are expensive, and not for everyone's budget. The meat is a little darker, which I find delicious, but some people don't, and more 'meaty' in texture. They are not gamy. Cooking them just the same as a regular bird works fine for me - as long as you don't overcook. They do tend to be smaller and the breast LOOKS a lot smaller, but I've found that there is a lot more breast meat than it looks like at first glance. The ribs are just not puffed out and so the breast meat is less outwardly apparent. The breast is smaller than the saline-injected monster birds, but not as small as it looks at first. All that said, even though those turkeys are delicious, I'm not up to splurging that much dough on a bird. But if I could afford it, I would be doing that every time. Chickens too. Bonus: the carcasses make soup stock that is to die for.

Posted by: dap at November 19, 2013 09:31 AM (vqV86)

322 For that kind of money I will handfeed your turkey, recite it poetry and play the harpischord for it in the evenings, all while dressed in wig, waistcoat and kneeebreeches.

Posted by: anonymous irishman at November 19, 2013 09:35 AM (DJgfL)

323 Maybe this year the bird should offer to pardon the president.

Posted by: Retread at November 19, 2013 09:36 AM (5PkZK)

324 Don't forget the joy of plucking. Posted by: Paladin -------------- Nothing more fun than scalding a hog.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 19, 2013 09:37 AM (aDwsi)

325 Holy. Fucking. Shit. I grew up literally next door.

Go Comets!


Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD

Uh-oh.  Cousins in Coloma.  You weren't born in Coloma, were you?

Posted by: mrp at November 19, 2013 09:53 AM (HjPtV)

326 New thing in West Hollywood: Heritage Gerbils.

Posted by: Richard Gere at November 19, 2013 09:55 AM (7/um6)

327 I always thought a turkey cost about the price of a bullet (and some patience). Who knew turkey hunters were bagging $200 turkeys?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 19, 2013 09:58 AM (9eDbm)

328

I  didn't read all the comments.   Anyone post the news  video of Palin doing an interview,  standing in front of the guy who was about to slaughter some turkeys? 

 

Another non  issue the  press and her haters got the vapors over. 

 

I thought it was funny. 

Posted by: polynikes at November 19, 2013 10:01 AM (m2CN7)

329 I have trouble with 'sport' hunters. That dust-up the other day about the babe who posed with her lion bothered me too. Hunting is one thing, murder for sport is another thing altogether. Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 19, 2013 01:15 PM (aDwsi) I hate that bitch from Minnesota and wish South Africa luck in banning her and the other jackasses who like to kill endangered species for "fun".

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 19, 2013 10:03 AM (Y92Nd)

330 I cooking a turkey OF THE FUTURE!

Posted by: tmitsss at November 19, 2013 10:14 AM (yuTiW)

331 Original colonists ate what they could grow and hunt themselves, with the kindness of the original inhabitants showing compassion on the European dummies, obviously lacking agrarian personal skill sets, mostly "urban" skilled tradesmen who shopped at market before relocating to a New World. If New Yorkers and urban-warriors-of-investments (who deem themselves "better than" the rednecks closer to America's original DIY euro-colonists) want to honor the tradition of eating (surviving on) what they can forage or grow themselves in their own locale, no markets, then feast on dandelion pigeon-squab and give Thanks. Meanwhile, rednecks can hunt some great wild turkey, deer, hogs, what ever is in season, with plenty of side dishes from home preserves and fresh field and garden harvests. Not hard to figure who can afford to purchase the neo-heritage turkeys being exploited for market; the same people with money to spare who wouldn't know a turkey if they saw it. Much less, what a wild turkey tastes like. Suckers. What a bunch of palettetards, as closely connected to Nature as Marie Antoinette in her servant-manicured faux-dairy-maid castle garden. As if she'd allow a cow near her finery, let alone touch the beast.

Posted by: Rick Bayless, Pb.S. bitch! at November 19, 2013 10:20 AM (MhA4j)

332 " 1/4 the white meat?" White meat sucks. It's essentially tasteless --- turkey for people who don't actually like the taste of turkey, much as Budweiser is beer for people who don't actually like the taste of beer.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at November 19, 2013 10:27 AM (DCidX)

333 Here in NH, a real heritage turkey is $16.00 plus the cost of bird shot or an arrow (assuming the arrow is somehow unrecoverable).

Posted by: Ken in NH at November 19, 2013 10:37 AM (zMa1w)

334 My cutting edge culinary star wife had been getting "heritage tuckeys" for five years now. HOOAH!

Posted by: Spook at November 19, 2013 10:43 AM (pEkqu)

335 "“It’s a draw in that people are looking to get back to the roots of how things were done hundreds of years ago before things were changed,” said Valerie Lafferty, the co-owner of Springfield Farms." You mean, before we figured out how to feed millions of people easily so that people no longer had to subsistence farm. You know what else we used to do before things were changed? Carry our fucking water from a well or the creek. And shit in pits. Just sayin'.

Posted by: blindside at November 19, 2013 10:50 AM (mXJ34)

336 348  And shit in pits.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: blindside at November 19, 2013 02:50 PM (mXJ34)


If you have never shit in an outhouse you are missing something.  Especially on a Winter night when it is below freezing.

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 10:55 AM (FTQyq)

337 I've always wanted to offer an expensive "heritage experience " for rich greenies. it would involve being helicoptered naked to the wilderness and being picked up in spring. large pelts an extra cost option.

Posted by: azjaeger at November 19, 2013 11:06 AM (nleel)

338 Societies in crisis often seek solace in their creation mythos. (Hoyt - http://www.accordingtohoyt.com) This whole "heritage turkeys are better" strikes me as fruit of the same tree, peeling away the crap and getting to the core parts of eating a turkey, of being a citizen ... Kinda has me wondering, though, what today's 20somethings' understanding of our creation mythos is... Mew

Posted by: acat at November 19, 2013 11:34 AM (4UkCP)

339 The Left will do anything to pin the Obamacare fiasco on the right.  One gambit is to claim that any conservative think tank that once suggested a health care policy with elements also contained in the current clusterfuck is the "father" of the ACA.  This is coming, folks:

Wait for it: 

Obamacare = Affordable Care Act = Heritage Turkey.


Posted by: Z as in Jersey at November 19, 2013 11:35 AM (A1UEK)

340

After 30-some years of being a vegetarian, my mom is finally becoming a meat-a-tarian again. So, this year, we will spring for a fancy-pants turkey. Not a $200 heritage turkey, but something special.

Meat! It's (finally) what's for dinner at my parent's house again!

Posted by: shinypie at November 19, 2013 11:58 AM (Kz85k)

341 Shotgun, bird shot shells, cammo and a turkey call. That's the old fashioned way to get free range turkey.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at November 19, 2013 12:03 PM (1hM1d)

342 I saw 8 heritage turkeys in the Savannah River swamp last week. Of course, it's not heritage turkey (or any effing turkey) season right now.

Posted by: EROWMER at November 19, 2013 01:25 PM (OONaw)

343 When deciding which chickens to get for my illegal chicken co-op, I researched heritage breeds.  Mostly because I wanted breeds that were proven to withstand the low temps in our neck of the woods.  One breed I selected was Speckled Sussex, a beautiful chicken which lays small light brown eggs.  Sure enough, some of the chicks grew to be roosters - so they had to go into the pot soon after they started crowing.  We also harvested one hen at about a year old because she was a holy terror to the other hens.  We pamper and spoil these things yet.....
they were kind of scrawny after the feathers came off.  Needed a long time in the stew pot to get tender. 
BUT they did hold up well in extreme winter temps.  So did the smaller white Leghorn, who is an egg laying machine!

Posted by: GrandeMe at November 19, 2013 03:21 PM (cFz43)

344 The idea of a heritage turkey is compelling to a traditionalist.  One imagines a few dozen of them traipsing around a bucolic farm dining on insects and table scraps like they're supposed to.  On the other hand, you absolutely know that these farmers, unlike the grangers in my state, probably voted for teleprompter jesus.  At the end of the day, they're hippies playing at employment.  Still, I bought a small heritage bird for sixty bucks from a heritage farm in Pennsylvania.  It tasted awful.  I imagined the hippy looked up my political contributions and fed this bird dog food.  Going forward, I'll stick with local turkeys or butterballs.  I know how they will taste.  We have a large flock of turkey on our acreage that likes to lay waste to the corn we put out for the deer.  We're pretty sure they'd taste similar to how they look, dark and stringy.  Plus, who's going to kill one?  No one at this house.

Posted by: Mazzuchelli at November 20, 2013 11:06 AM (zAZNI)

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