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October 14, 2013

Hey, Guys, We're Going To Collide With The Debt Ceiling
— Gabriel Malor

Alternate Headline: "Your Move, Mr. Cruz."

There is talk of a deal being worked out this afternoon, but I thought I might mention that even if a deal is worked out today or tomorrow, we are almost certainly going to find out what happens when the debt ceiling isn't raised by Thursday.

Quite simply, there isn't enough time for the Senate to consider a bill before the Thursday deadline . . . unless there's unanimous consent to waive the Senate rules. Here's what has to happen before the Senate can pass a bill raising the debt ceiling.

(1) The bill has to be drafted. Figure this takes a day.
(2) The bill has to be moved to the floor. This takes 3 days if it's a new bill that has to be calendared. It's faster if Sen. Reid amends a bill that's already on the calendar. It's also faster if the Senate takes up a bill from the House.
(3) Without unanimous consent, they'd need to file for cloture on the motion to proceed. Add a day, since a cloture vote has to be filed a day in advance of the vote.
(4) Without unanimous consent, they'd then have 30 hours of post-cloture debate.
(5) Without unanimous consent, they'd need to file cloture on the bill itself.
(6) Without unanimous consent, they'd then have 30 more hours of post-cloture debate.
(7) And then the Senate would get to vote on final passage of the bill.

There just isn't that much time between now and the deadline. This means that if any Senators object to waiving the rules, we're going to run headfirst into the debt ceiling even if Sens. Reid and McConnell came out with a deal this very second.

I checked with a pal who works on the Senate side. Though he cautions that there are a lot of ifs involved, he confirmed my understanding of the rules. He suggested that if there's unanimous consent, the Senate could pass something in a couple days. Without unanimous consent, the Senate's not going to be passing a bill until next week.

Does anyone here believe that a deal struck between Reid and McConnell is going to get unanimous consent from Senate Republicans? I sure don't. And don't forget, even if a deal makes it through the Senate, it then has to make it through the House.

The bottom line: we're about to find out what actually happens when the United States government runs up against the debt ceiling.

Updated [4:35]: Wait, wait, wait. I'm confused about the objection to the alternate headline, which I thought was amusing. Do you think that Sen. Cruz would agree to waive the rules to allow quick passage of the deal we're hearing rumors about? It'd sure surprise me.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 11:51 AM | Comments (733)
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1
Welcome to the Obama Era. And the Audacity of Hype.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 14, 2013 11:51 AM (OZmbA)

2 Quite simply, there isn't enough time for the Senate to consider a bill Time? Who needs time?

Posted by: The Imperial Senate at October 14, 2013 11:52 AM (FcR7P)

3 Let the bodies hit the floor!

Posted by: dananjcon at October 14, 2013 11:52 AM (wmU4G)

4 The bottom line: we're about to find out what actually happens when the United States government runs up against the debt ceiling. I'm rooting for "Spending Within Your Means"

Posted by: t-bird at October 14, 2013 11:53 AM (FcR7P)

5 Oh, by the way, First.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 14, 2013 11:53 AM (OZmbA)

6 The new 100 dollar bill will blow up in your hand.

Posted by: redenzo at October 14, 2013 11:53 AM (vx61Q)

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Posted by: Maetenloch's Corn Field Inmate #999 at October 14, 2013 11:53 AM (Cs2tJ)

8 Screw it, we'll take Taiwan then.

Posted by: The Chinese at October 14, 2013 11:54 AM (8ZskC)

9 Let it. If we can provide nothing else for our future generations, at least let us provide an object lesson.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 14, 2013 11:54 AM (qvify)

10 Gonna have to brush up on my Mandarin.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 14, 2013 11:54 AM (wmU4G)

11 Default now, default later. The inevitable will happen.

Posted by: puddleglum at October 14, 2013 11:54 AM (H/LGm)

12 i'd like to see it not pass......we take in enough to pay our current bills we need to stop accruing new debt...

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 14, 2013 11:54 AM (8JJ6O)

I'm rooting for "Spending Within Your Means"

This. Immediately.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 14, 2013 11:54 AM (0HooB)

Historically, even perhaps in Ezra Klein's high-chair-days memory, we *have* run up against the debt ceiling. Quasi-accidentally, but we have.

This should actually be fun.

Posted by: RamonAllones at October 14, 2013 11:54 AM (AcoH1)

15 Quite simply, there isn't enough time for the Senate to consider a bill

Well then, I'll just wave my imperial wand and waive the Senate and House roles in all of this. See, problem fixed.

Posted by: Barry, master of magic at October 14, 2013 11:55 AM (6TB1Z)

16 thanks repubiKKKans for ruining the dollar and all our kids futures

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 14, 2013 11:55 AM (nooa6)

17 Bump your head.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 14, 2013 11:55 AM (v1Ckr)

18 And to think if we went back to 2008 spending levels we would have a yearly surplus, and wouldn't need a debt ceiling raise.

Posted by: redenzo at October 14, 2013 11:55 AM (vx61Q)

19 Well, I for one am excited to see what happens when we "default" and destroy the world economy (as per Obama)

Posted by: Timin203 at October 14, 2013 11:55 AM (5WxMt)

20
Oooooh, you bettah watch out.

You bettah not default.

We cut your shipment to walmart.

Posted by: China at October 14, 2013 11:55 AM (OZmbA)

21 Good. I'm guessing nothing will happen. The market will probably go down. So what.

Posted by: SH at October 14, 2013 11:56 AM (pyh5u)

22 They delay paying the bills until next week. Much wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then nothing because the checks will go out late but will still go out.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy one Infuriation and get two Junior Snits for Free! at October 14, 2013 11:56 AM (hLRSq)

23 This is his goal It's what he has wanted Cruz has nothing to do with it

Posted by: Thunderb at October 14, 2013 11:56 AM (zOTsN)

24 ZOMG

Posted by: Annie M. Lowrey, who actually likes Ezra Klein's diseased member at October 14, 2013 11:56 AM (Q9qpj)

25 Go heavy on popcorn futures.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 14, 2013 11:56 AM (wmU4G)

26 Clearly, a speech is in order. Lieutenant, bring me my TOTUS.

Posted by: Barky O'Genius at October 14, 2013 11:57 AM (8ZskC)

27 Good thing I have my EBT card!

Posted by: Obama Voter at October 14, 2013 11:57 AM (nsg2T)

28 just declare the Senate as being on Double Secret Probation

that'll work...

Posted by: Otto, who thinks Plato was Belgian at October 14, 2013 11:57 AM (omBWL)

29 Will it be as bad as when the sequester took effect? How about when the government shutdown?

Posted by: SH at October 14, 2013 11:57 AM (pyh5u)

30 If you're not excited about this fake fight over fake spending cuts, then I just don't know what to tell you purity brigaders.

Posted by: Warden at October 14, 2013 11:58 AM (bmp0d)

Well, it looks like we have a good comparison of federal spending as a household budget: how long would it take a family to go bankrupt if they spent at the rate (percentage-wise) as the gubmint? A year, two, maybe?

TFG and his Band of Merry Marxists are quite busy implementing the Cloward-Piven Strategy of breaking the system.

From within. With a government like this, who needs foreign enemies?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 14, 2013 11:58 AM (0HooB)

32 Per the Constitution, the interest on the debt gets paid 1st, so there shouldn't be a default. I know, I know, it's only the Constitution.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 14, 2013 11:58 AM (9jLim)

33 I'm rooting for "Spending Within Your Means"

Yeah, that's gonna happen.

...although if it does, stay away from the snack aisles.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, ray of sunshine at October 14, 2013 11:59 AM (/kI1Q)

34 They will pay "entitlements" but not the interest. Default theater

Posted by: Thunderb at October 14, 2013 11:59 AM (zOTsN)

35 Whoop Whoop!

Posted by: Kaboom Kid at October 14, 2013 11:59 AM (DHQv9)

36 If unanimous consent is withheld, the identity of the individual(s) involved must be revealed. Let's hope for our sake that it's someone like Bernie Socialist from Vermont.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 14, 2013 11:59 AM (/Crba)

37 My plan in three steps: 1- Titties for everyone 2- ??? 3- Who cares, titties for everyone.

Posted by: CAC at October 14, 2013 11:59 AM (2OjVZ)

38 I don't think I've ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of my daughter as I just did a moment ago. I sat down with her on the sofa and (as calmly as I could) tried to explain to her why the Republicans won't raise the debt ceiling. I tried to keep my voice steady, but it became increasingly difficult - the rage and feelings of helplessness were just too much. She could tell something was wrong. I found myself at such a loss for words - nothing made any sense; nothing makes sense anymore. I finally had to admit, " I just don't know - I don't know what's going on in this country anymore..." When I finished her lower lip started to tremble and her eyes began to fill with tears, "Mommy" she said, "why are the Republicans doing this to the country?" Well, that was it for me: I finally fell apart. I just fell into her arms and we both began sobbing for several minutes. She had to comfort me and get me back on my feet. Sometimes I just think itÂ’s too much, but seeing the strength in my daughters voice helped me to get through.

Posted by: CheChe v.7.0 at October 14, 2013 12:00 PM (U2UQk)

Just deem it passed.

Or have Barky sign an Executive Order.

I mean, who needs rules any more? Certainly not this group of twits.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at October 14, 2013 12:00 PM (PZ6/M)

40 Irrational spending of money we don't have will do more long term damage my 401k more than hitting the debt limit. Let it hit. May not be my first strategy but I don't really care if we hit it or not.

Posted by: SH at October 14, 2013 12:00 PM (pyh5u)

41 The debt ceiling is glass. When we break through it, we'll all find out that "My God, it's full of stars".

Posted by: Roy at October 14, 2013 12:00 PM (VndSC)

42 The bottom line: we're about to find out what actually happens when the United States government runs up against the debt ceiling. Nothing will happen to regular folks, unless obama fails to prioritize. Then he can make a big scene, kill the EBT cards, start a few big city riots, declare martial law and it's game on.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 14, 2013 12:00 PM (XIxXP)

43 32 I'm rooting for "Spending Within Your Means" Yeah, that's gonna happen. ...although if it does, stay away from the snack aisles. --- I'll refer back to my shopping list for the month... canned food and shotguns. The FSA is already out in full force around my area.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 14, 2013 12:00 PM (/Crba)

44 Go fuck yourself, Gabe. If we default it is because Barry chose not to.

With friends like you, who needs enemies.

Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at October 14, 2013 12:01 PM (6jJQg)

45 I for one welcome all the doom, gloom and gnashing of teeth. Go long on Prozac and dental guards.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 14, 2013 12:01 PM (wmU4G)

46 More park closures!!!

Posted by: Jason in KT at October 14, 2013 12:01 PM (S4Fqs)

47 35 Brandon in BR @3:59,

I'm past caring whether we get blamed or not.

The media needs cleansed.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:02 PM (9jfyN)

48 Walmart should start hiring more security guards to prepare for the SNAP looting.

Posted by: SH at October 14, 2013 12:02 PM (pyh5u)

49 Eye of the tiger baby!!

Posted by: Ben Bernanke at October 14, 2013 12:02 PM (wmU4G)

50 47 35 Brandon in BR @3:59, I'm past caring whether we get blamed or not. The media needs cleansed. --- They need to be. Is it going to happen, though? Answers point to "no" unless they're so f*cking dumb that they think they're bulletproof when the FSA starts rioting.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 14, 2013 12:02 PM (/Crba)

51 It's been a great apple harvest this year. How many apples do you have to sell in order to keep the government running?

Posted by: Kaboom Kid at October 14, 2013 12:02 PM (DHQv9)

52 He sees default as another crisis he can use to further the socialist agenda. If the balloon really goes up this time, maybe it's we who won't let this crisis go to waste.

Posted by: Jack Nine at October 14, 2013 12:03 PM (nsg2T)

53 Let it Burn. This whole system is a farce. The markets are manipulated, .gov is a joke, Ocare will never come online. Based on what I saw with the Free Shit Army raiding WalMart over the weekend, time to buy some more 5.56 and pmags. Keep stacking, folks.

Posted by: superflex at October 14, 2013 12:03 PM (4a/4i)

54 Eye of the tiger baby!! Posted by: Ben Bernanke at October 14, 2013 04:02 PM (wmU4G) Hey, the Pilsbury Dough girl will be runnin the show soon. Obama pokes her in the belly and she giggles while money spews from the Treasury.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 14, 2013 12:03 PM (XIxXP)

55 43 Go fuck yourself, Gabe. If we default it is because Barry chose not to.

With friends like you, who needs enemies.
Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach

Can we ban this idiot, please.

Posted by: pep at October 14, 2013 12:04 PM (6TB1Z)

56 Congress is like those Wal-Mart mobs with their EBT cards.

Posted by: brak at October 14, 2013 12:04 PM (NaTky)

Well, if it burns, maybe the Dims will be political pariahs for a while.

The skinny ones will be anyway. The fat ones are well-marbled and will the first ones eaten.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 14, 2013 12:04 PM (0HooB)

58 Alternate Headline: "Your Move, Mr. Cruz." Cute Gabe.....

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 14, 2013 12:04 PM (bCEmE)

59 The bottom line: we're about to find out what actually happens when the United States government runs up against the debt ceiling. Funnily enough, I thought there were constitutional provisions regarding the order of payments. So, obviously, those will be followed. Ow! Ow! Shit. I fell and hit my head again. As I keep saying, if the debt limit is continually raised, then there is no debt limit. This was always, always, always going to happen. Good. Let it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 14, 2013 12:04 PM (VtjlW)

60 Ooh, didn't realize this was happening. Going to play the markets a bit on this! We live in interesting times...

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at October 14, 2013 12:04 PM (E8IHS)

61 One Trillion Dollar Coin!

Posted by: Kaboom Kid at October 14, 2013 12:04 PM (DHQv9)

62 hahaha, I was just thinking to myself, "Self, I don't know anyone outside of TV who is buying into this "deadline" bullshit. Lo and behold.. boy, are you Dumb

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 12:05 PM (uoB45)

63 Oh, and Gabe, that "alternate headline" you added deserves a hearty "Fuck you".

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 14, 2013 12:05 PM (/Crba)

64 The Blame Monster is vewy scawy. Not quite as scary as unpayable debt and a defunct health care delivery system, though.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 14, 2013 12:05 PM (ZshNr)

65 I heard a rumor that is was a handful of dry Kaboom that Cox was choking on... " she just kept popping the clown faces in her mouth, one after the other, and never stopped to drink anything... it was crazy "

Posted by: Yip at October 14, 2013 12:05 PM (/jHWN)

66 43 Old Grizzled Gym Coach@ 4:01,

Now now....I got sent to the cooler for less than that.

Let's compliment Gabe on his nice truck.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:05 PM (9jfyN)

The bottom line: we're about to find out what actually happens when the United States government runs up against the debt ceiling.

That's pretty frickin awesome.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 14, 2013 12:05 PM (4Fpt9)

68 >>As I keep saying, if the debt limit is continually raised, then there is no debt limit.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting

So true.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 14, 2013 12:05 PM (9jLim)

69 Ramming speed!

Posted by: wooga at October 14, 2013 12:06 PM (n2DnG)

Gabe,

You strike me as a speechwriter for Mondale. WTF do you mean:

You're move, Mr. Cruz??

Let me explain this slowly, like you we care about this country. If it were not for Mr. Cruz and those who support him, Zero would have supermajorities in House and Senate.

But keep on keeping on. Trash the conservatives and piss on the evangelicals.

Hey, those 30 something single women will vote for you. One day. Promise!!!

Middle class!!!

Posted by: prescient11 at October 14, 2013 12:06 PM (tVTLU)

71 In a memo being circulated on Capitol Hill Wednesday, MoodyÂ’s Investors Service offers Â“answers to frequently asked questionsÂ” about the government shutdown, now in its second week, and the federal debt limit. President Obama has said that, unless Congress acts to raise the $16.7 trillion limit the nation will be at risk of default. Not so, MoodyÂ’s says in the memo dated Oct. 7. Â“We believe the government would continue to pay interest and principal on its debt even in the event that the debt limit is not raised, leaving its creditworthiness intact,Â” the memo says. Â“The debt limit restricts government expenditures to the amount of its incoming revenues; it does not prohibit the government from servicing its debt. There is no direct connection between the debt limit (actually the exhaustion of the TreasuryÂ’s extraordinary measures to raise funds) and a default. - See more at: http://www.teapartypatriots.org/2013/10/default-boogeyman-d-c-claims/#sthash.Y6ssDaoy.dpuf

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 14, 2013 12:06 PM (a4Omg)

This is not the deadline you're looking for.

* waves hand *

Posted by: Obi-wan Debt-obi at October 14, 2013 12:06 PM (EGPJQ)

54 OSP, you know, we tried to tell all these fools to get on the Palin train so this wouldn't happen but did they listen to use?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

did they get their Romney cause he knows business?

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

how did that work for everyone?

next time they'll listen

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 14, 2013 12:06 PM (nooa6)

74 Ted Cruz is a white Hispanic!

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 14, 2013 12:06 PM (PjgvN)

75 Dear G-d, why don't we just give up and get David Frum as a co-blogger, anyhow ... ?

Posted by: I have MS-NBC for that at October 14, 2013 12:06 PM (sq9q3)

76 They will simply move the goalppost.

They are already sending out trial balloons saying the REAL drop dead date for going over the debt ceiling is November 1st.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 14, 2013 12:06 PM (f9c2L)

77 Yeah, I noticed that my withholdings in my paycheck were furloughed, too. oh wait, no they weren't!

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 12:06 PM (uoB45)

*yawn* This is just like Y2K. Nothing will happen. Congress will very suddenly find the money to service the debt.

OMG! Where'd that money come from?!

Posted by: Soona at October 14, 2013 12:06 PM (3Mz5/)

79 Nice try. You assume the Treasury has run out of "extraordinary measures" and has actually been honest about the date.

They haven't.

But it makes for a snappy headline.

Posted by: Marcus at October 14, 2013 12:07 PM (GGCsk)

80 Can you believe that Ted Cruz fella. Gosh he sure makes being a congressman unfun. You mean we actually have to really pretend fight we want to eliminate some government. This is hard. Just let me open a bridge or something.

Posted by: SH at October 14, 2013 12:07 PM (pyh5u)

81 Saw your alternate headline, Gabe. So you're against a sane fiscal policy that doesn't spend more than it takes in?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 14, 2013 12:07 PM (0HooB)

82 He is doing this intentionally. To rid himself of a legislature that has the temerity to be any thing other than a rubber stamp. Fundamental change baby! And he will get the establishment's help

Posted by: Thunderb at October 14, 2013 12:07 PM (zOTsN)

83 We should call it the Debt Pit, not the Ceiling.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 14, 2013 12:07 PM (ZshNr)

84 The bottom line: we're about to find out what actually happens when the United States government runs up against the debt ceiling. You make it sound like that's a bad thing.

Posted by: Iblis at October 14, 2013 12:07 PM (Yd7xL)

85 36 My plan in three steps: 1- Titties for everyone 2- ??? 3- Who cares, titties for everyone. CAC, neither Reid nor Obama are interested in titties for anyone.

Posted by: wooga at October 14, 2013 12:07 PM (n2DnG)

86 My plan in three steps: 1- Titties for everyone 2- ??? 3- Who cares, titties for everyone. Posted by: CAC at October 14, 2013 03:59 PM (2OjVZ) Newsletter, please.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 14, 2013 12:08 PM (VtjlW)

87 55 no, he may have put it rather harshly but the point is valid if not true

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 14, 2013 12:08 PM (nooa6)

88 MasterBlaster gave us a two hour peek into what happens when he shuts down EBT Bartertown. Its all over but the hollowpouts.

Posted by: Lev Bronstein at October 14, 2013 12:08 PM (O/KTk)

89 next time they'll listen Posted by: navycopjoe at October 14, 2013 04:06 PM (nooa6) No they won't, Saturday night live says she's stupid and talks funny.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 14, 2013 12:08 PM (XIxXP)

67 The bottom line: we're about to find out what actually happens when the United States government runs up against the debt ceiling.

----

You heard it hear first morons/ettes. Sheesh.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 14, 2013 12:08 PM (EGPJQ)

91 They will pay "entitlements" but not the interest. Default theater

Posted by: Thunderb at October 14, 2013 03:59 PM (zOTsN)

Interest payments are required per the constitution, entitlements are not. Add in one more impeachable offense.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 14, 2013 12:08 PM (4Fpt9)

92 59 - you are correct. It is called section 4 of the 14th Amendment. If Obama chooses to ignore it, he should be impeached (and Gohmert has already raised this).

Posted by: tofer732 at October 14, 2013 12:08 PM (z3MpN)

Isn't the best part of Willie Wonka when Charlie and Grandpa crashed through the debt ceiling and took in the wonders of post war England? Also, why didn't any of said characters have the home team accent.

*Freakies is my preferred cereal.*

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 14, 2013 12:08 PM (32Ze2)

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but was the debt clock or was it not stuck at the exact same figure for most of August and September, despite the complete absurdity of such a scenario.

Does anyone actually think we haven't already hit the debt ceiling, blown past it like Willy Wonka's glass elevator, and are just waiting for the debris to clear to see how far behind us we've left fiscal sanity?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 14, 2013 12:08 PM (4df7R)

95 A strongly-worded letter might keep the ceiling from caving. Yes?

Posted by: NCwoof at October 14, 2013 12:08 PM (aUQgu)

96 My understanding of what happens when the debt ceiling is hit that the event triggers a computer algorithm that removes restrictions on EBT card limits nationwide.

It's called a "glitch"

Use it wisely.
_

Posted by: Passerby at October 14, 2013 12:08 PM (G7SkO)

97 Alternate alternate post title: In Which I Reveal I Really Have No Business Writing On These Matters

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 12:08 PM (uoB45)

98 There's a lot of ruin in a nation.

Posted by: Jake at October 14, 2013 12:09 PM (IW/Sd)

99 Just deem it passed. Or have Barky sign an Executive Order. I mean, who needs rules any more? Certainly not this group of twits. The crazy thing is these twerps follow Parliamentary Procedure religiously. Reid or somebody recently referred to someone by their first name and publicly apologized for it! Constitution? Feh, they don't care about it. They only care insofar as they game out whether the Supremes will strike it down, or how long it'll be until then.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 14, 2013 12:09 PM (yETln)

100 >>>The bottom line: we're about to find out what actually happens when the United States government runs up against the debt ceiling.

**

This shit has been going on since the 30's, It wasn't until we got a vindictive little crap weasel of a president to politicize the effects to the extent that war veterans and welfare recipients get the shit end of the stick.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 14, 2013 12:09 PM (wmU4G)

101 Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but was the debt clock or was it not stuck at the exact same figure for most of August and September, despite the complete absurdity of such a scenario.

I can't be out of money. I still have more checks.

Posted by: pep at October 14, 2013 12:09 PM (6TB1Z)

102 Dear G-d, why don't we just give up and get David Frum as a co-blogger, anyhow ... ? He's too hetero-normative. You need someone to put a different perspective on things. I think I know someone who is available.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan [/i] at October 14, 2013 12:10 PM (U2UQk)

103 OMG! Where'd that money come from?!

Look at the devastation the Tea Party has wrought!

*footage of sad QUILTBAG researchers, unable to send out surveys to determine why so many lesbians are obese because their grants got canceled, accompanied by Sarah McLaclochlan dirge*

Posted by: MSNBC at October 14, 2013 12:10 PM (/kI1Q)

104 Oh, and Gabe, that "alternate headline" you added deserves a hearty "Fuck you".

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 14, 2013 04:05 PM (/Crba)

-------------------------------------------

I concur.

Posted by: Soona at October 14, 2013 12:10 PM (3Mz5/)

105 Yeah, where does Ted Cruz get off doing exactly what he promised his electorate he would do? Why isn't he a traitor to his constituents like Gabe expects out of his Republican colleagues? Disgraceful!!

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 14, 2013 12:10 PM (9jLim)

106

86 hey, AtC

get your drool cloth ready and read this link

http://tinyurl.com/mnl3r3y

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 14, 2013 12:10 PM (nooa6)

107 Does anyone actually think we haven't already hit the debt ceiling, blown past it like Willy Wonka's glass elevator, and are just waiting for the debris to clear to see how far behind us we've left fiscal sanity? Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 14, 2013 04:08 PM (4df7R) *taps chin* You know, if Our Betters are actually Vermicious Knids, that would explain a lot.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 14, 2013 12:10 PM (VtjlW)

108 59 - you are correct. It is called section 4 of the 14th Amendment. If Obama chooses to ignore it, he should be impeached (and Gohmert has already raised this).

Posted by: tofer732 at October 14, 2013 04:08 PM (z3MpN)

I suspect Obammy would declare some bullshit state of emergency, issue an equally bullshit Executive Order, and that would somehow make Everythign All Right (tm). Can he do it? Hell, Obammy doesn't care what the Constitution tells him he can and can't do. He just does it.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 14, 2013 12:10 PM (4df7R)

109 This is not the womb to die on

Posted by: The Dude at October 14, 2013 12:10 PM (vJdyz)

110 PANIC! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!

Posted by: Andy at October 14, 2013 12:10 PM (0ZQCB)

111 Alternate Headline: "Your Move, Mr. Cruz."

Seriously?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 14, 2013 12:10 PM (xbjUC)

112 I only work for cash. Or butter.

Posted by: David Frum at October 14, 2013 12:11 PM (Q9qpj)

113 OK then. The 17th Libyan Regiment?

Posted by: NCwoof at October 14, 2013 12:11 PM (aUQgu)

114 >>>Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at October 14, 2013 04:01 PM (6jJQg) Aren't you supposed to be running the Fed now? Get back to manning the printers. And use your real name when posting, Ms Yellen.

Posted by: wooga at October 14, 2013 12:11 PM (n2DnG)

115 @94 Right there with ya MWR... they've even admitted the Loo Loo has been furiously working the books to make shit up. It's all a joke. The Treasury is doing stuff that would put Enron to shame. Of course, to point this out is racist and unheard of and Booosh did it first, etc..

Posted by: Yip at October 14, 2013 12:11 PM (/jHWN)

116 I am going to listen to "The Party's Over" by Willie Nelson when the debt hits the fan...

Posted by: William Eaton at October 14, 2013 12:12 PM (rLRIj)

117

Oh Gabe you silly little cob.

It. Will .Not. Happen.

The fucking spineless thieves in D.C. always figure a way to avert "disaster" don't you know they have magic fucking wands??????

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 14, 2013 12:12 PM (HVff2)

118 Am I missing something? I thought the debt limit was where we were going to fight

Posted by: SH at October 14, 2013 12:12 PM (pyh5u)

119 Switch already

Posted by: Thunderb at October 14, 2013 12:12 PM (zOTsN)

120 We should call it the Debt Pit, not the Ceiling.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 14, 2013 04:07 PM (ZshNr)

Remember the fiscal cliff of 2012??

Good times.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 14, 2013 12:12 PM (wmU4G)

121 You're a racist

The Middle-Class

Fair-Share

It's Bush's fault.

________________________________________
There now, all the Dem arguments are out there now can we fix this shit?!?!

Posted by: Everyday Joe at October 14, 2013 12:12 PM (DVC2D)

122 Isn't the best part of Willie Wonka when Charlie and Grandpa crashed through the debt ceiling and took in the wonders of post war England? Also, why didn't any of said characters have the home team accent. I like the part where you have no real idea where Charlie is from. Is it Poland? America somewhere? Why is his mother a 19th Century washer-woman with a boiling kettle and a giant wooden paddle?

Posted by: bonhomme at October 14, 2013 12:12 PM (yETln)

123 The old standard playbook is now open in reference to debt limit. Every time the debt limit problem has come up before the libs have said exactly the same thing. "We don't know if we're gonna be able to pay Social Security this month." All the old people freak out and then the deal is made. The problem this time is this administration would actually do it. Sure they'll pay interest payments but they have no problem at all punishing the American people if it furthers the goal. The Republicans in Congress seem to be blind or stupid or I don't know what but these are some cold-blooded fucks running the show. Play time is over, these people are serious about screwing up this country.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at October 14, 2013 12:12 PM (X+nFp)

124 Well said, Gabe.

Posted by: Jennifer Rubin at October 14, 2013 12:12 PM (Q9qpj)

125

*taps chin*

You know, if Our Betters are actually Vermicious Knids, that would explain a lot.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 14, 2013 04:10 PM (VtjlW)

Then I want an Oompa Loompa, dammit.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 14, 2013 12:12 PM (4df7R)

126 Am I missing something? I thought the debt limit was where we were going to fight

Posted by: SH at October 14, 2013 04:12 PM (pyh5u)

Not the womb to die on

Posted by: The Dude at October 14, 2013 12:12 PM (vJdyz)

127 I'm trying to figure out why I continued to read when I saw who was posting this. Fortunately, I stopped at the alternative headline...

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 14, 2013 12:12 PM (bCEmE)

128 "Hey, Guys, We're Going To Collide With The Debt Ceiling"

Good.

Let's what's behind the curtain.

If King Stompyfoot wants to intentionally default, best to find out sooner, rather than later.

And/or... if he's going to use this moment to stiff anybody (e.g. - generate a 'crisis'), may as well see who's going to take it up the ass to make Dear Leader look 'troubled'.

I've got enough ammo and food... game on.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 14, 2013 12:13 PM (kfSXj)

129 Life will simply go on.

Posted by: MJ at October 14, 2013 12:13 PM (PRPp1)

130

Is Gabe enrolled in O-Care yet cause I think he needs an ambulance.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 14, 2013 12:13 PM (EGPJQ)

131 Cruz is the bogeyman du jour for the "go along to get along" snivelers. "I'm a Republican, but I completely oppose the fringe antics of Cruz, Lee, Palin, Fill In the Blank.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 14, 2013 12:13 PM (ZshNr)

132 @robertcostaNRO RT @jbendery Top Sen aide confirms outlines of latest deal: Debt lim hike thru early Feb, govt funding thru early Jan, budget conf by Dec 15

@ChadPergram McConnell to present potential plan to Senate GOP Conference after vote series at 5:30 pm et

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 14, 2013 12:13 PM (YjDyJ)

133 This is ~~just like~~ completely the opposite of Y2K.

Because a bunch of smart folk were well paid to fix a solvable problem.

Posted by: DaveA at October 14, 2013 12:13 PM (DL2i+)

134 Newsletter, please. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. Somehow the Quicksand porn people have captured the zeitgeist. Miring in government debt and porn. And if they kill the titties, it will only make them stronger.

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker, Friend Of Farmer Yoon,Wears Prada at October 14, 2013 12:13 PM (GxM1n)

135 You guys can have the titties I want the booties.

Posted by: eleven at October 14, 2013 12:13 PM (KXm42)

136

Seriously?

Ted Cruz caused the Lincoln memorial to be blockaded.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 14, 2013 12:13 PM (TpXEI)

137 So, what will happen when people find out we are broke and have been Kiting checks for six years. I got no Idea.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 14, 2013 12:13 PM (XIxXP)

138

Oh, and Gabe, that "alternate headline" you added deserves a hearty "Fuck you".

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 14, 2013 04:05 PM (/Crba)

Agreed.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 14, 2013 12:13 PM (4df7R)

139 *yawn* This is just like Y2K. Oh come on, I had to review 150,000 lines of computer code. Then change 10 of them. Of course, being private sector I wrote an algorithm to perform/notify me of the needed changes and it took me forty five minutes from start to finish.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 14, 2013 12:14 PM (U2UQk)

140

Hey Â– not all Â“TrayvonÂ”s (or in this case, Â“TravjuanÂ”) in Florida are bad guys:

http://is.gd/28illA

Now I just need to get this dust out of my eyeÂ…..

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at October 14, 2013 12:14 PM (PZ6/M)

141 I'd care a lot more (okay, not really) about Gabe's concerns if he hadn't spent the last couple months arguing for . . . playing chicken with the debt ceiling. Guess you weren't ever serious about that after all, huh?

Posted by: Brad at October 14, 2013 12:14 PM (B5hux)

142 Bravo, Mr. Malor. Way to stick it to those Tea Party Hobbits.

Posted by: David Brooks at October 14, 2013 12:14 PM (Q9qpj)

143 Alternate Headline: Obama Has Spent $10 Trillion. How Much Are You Getting?

Posted by: t-bird at October 14, 2013 12:14 PM (FcR7P)

144

Is Gabe enrolled in O-Care yet cause I think he needs an ambulance.

Don't be ridiculous, nobody can enroll in O-Care.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 14, 2013 12:14 PM (TpXEI)

145

109 This is not the womb to die in.

FIFY

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 14, 2013 12:14 PM (EGPJQ)

146 >>>The bottom line: we're about to find out what actually happens when the United States government runs up against the debt ceiling. ... My bet is on "nothing happens". Of course that won't stop all the political theater (nothing short of SMOD will stop that). Otherwise, they'll do like they've been doing with the Federal accounting for months... pretend nothing happened and cook the books. Of course if any individual or private company used government accounting "rules", they'd go to prison after politicians are through making a spectacle out of them and trying to justify more "regulatory reform". Of course we could call them out of this and... wait... The Dread Justice Roberts on the phone... He says, "standing".

Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at October 14, 2013 12:15 PM (j0wOO)

147 I want a trained skwerl. That one, daddy, and I want it now!

Posted by: MSM, snivelling brat the she is at October 14, 2013 12:15 PM (DHQv9)

148 Somehow the Quicksand porn people have captured the zeitgeist. Miring in government debt and porn.

And if they kill the titties, it will only make them stronger.

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker, Friend Of Farmer Yoon,Wears Prada at October 14, 2013 04:13 PM (GxM1n)

that was totally not NSFW

Posted by: The Dude at October 14, 2013 12:15 PM (vJdyz)

149 and magically McConnell is announcing a deal

Posted by: Sammy at October 14, 2013 12:15 PM (HMI9a)

150 hey, AtC get your drool cloth ready and read this link http://tinyurl.com/mnl3r3y Posted by: navycopjoe at October 14, 2013 04:10 PM (nooa6) I'm not saying that I pawed the screen whilst making the noises.
I'm not saying that I didn't either.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 14, 2013 12:15 PM (VtjlW)

151

Remember how awful we felt after the election. How depressed? All the analysis of what happened, where do we go, how do we win.

Romney was about the most establishment, polished, moderate to liberal Republican in the world who had passed his own fucking version of zerocare.

And he lost his ass. Gabe, you are the reason we lose elections. And keep losing. Your thinking, however well-intentioned and well-meaning, is a rot that needs to be pulled out like a weed.

I would rather fight and lose, than be a towel boy for a socialist freak of a despot.

Stand and fight.

Posted by: prescient11 at October 14, 2013 12:15 PM (tVTLU)

152 138 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 14, 2013 04:13 PM (4df7R)

I just don't understand how he managed to Chrome the whole truck like that...so shiny...

that Gabe has "friends" working in the Senate explains well, "a lot."

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:15 PM (9jfyN)

153 The problem this time is this administration would actually do it. Sure they'll pay interest payments but they have no problem at all punishing the American people if it furthers the goal.

Obama is a Calvinist at heart. He thinks we're all to be condemned for original sin, regardless of what we do now, and the punishments should start now. He is among the elect that will go to heaven, of course.

Posted by: pep at October 14, 2013 12:15 PM (6TB1Z)

154

Actually, if you wanted to crash the economy, suspending the SS checks would be a great way to do it, even if only for a week or two.

I wouldn't put it past TFG to do something like that.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 14, 2013 12:15 PM (0HooB)

155 Thank God Reid is so inept...he is preventing the RINOs from caving to show how big and bad he is. LOL!

Posted by: William Eaton at October 14, 2013 12:15 PM (rLRIj)

156 Gabe... this is real retarded .. sir

Posted by: Jentel at October 14, 2013 12:15 PM (/jHWN)

157 The Republicans in Congress seem to be blind or stupid or I don't know what but these are some cold-blooded fucks running the show. Play time is over, these people are serious about screwing up this country.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at October 14, 2013 04:12 PM (X+nFp)

Which is why LIB

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 14, 2013 12:15 PM (4Fpt9)

158 Then I want an Oompa Loompa, dammit. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 14, 2013 04:12 PM (4df7R) I am not dying myself orange.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 14, 2013 12:16 PM (VtjlW)

159

Headline: Poland Invaded by Germany

Alternate Headline: Your move, Lithuania.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 14, 2013 12:16 PM (TpXEI)

160 I completely agree with Gabe. Wouldn't change a word.

Posted by: Eeyore [/i] at October 14, 2013 12:16 PM (U2UQk)

161

okay you RINO heathens, as usual I, the great NCJ, will give you the fix for the economy

in this case, how to save EBT costs:

for each 2 members of a family they will be issued a coupon for a can of Spam, a loaf of bread, and a quart of milk per day and that's it

this is not that hard you know

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 14, 2013 12:16 PM (nooa6)

162 The trap has been sprung. We Bolsheviks now possess our civilian army. They dance to our EBeaT. The dependency class is a gun to the head if the property class. We communists think of everything. We think while you work. We plot while you sleep. We never work. That is your distraction, chumps.

Posted by: Lev Bronstein at October 14, 2013 12:16 PM (O/KTk)

163 Newsletter, please. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 14, 2013 04:08 PM (VtjlW) It's $2 for a yearly subscription to the Area Ola.

Posted by: CAC at October 14, 2013 12:16 PM (2OjVZ)

164 Time? Who needs time? That's not fair. That's not fair at all. There was time now. There was all the time I needed...! That's not fair!

Posted by: Henry Bemis at October 14, 2013 12:17 PM (vd7A8)

165 It should be a debt cellar. It leads to China.

Posted by: t-bird at October 14, 2013 12:17 PM (FcR7P)

166 Gabe... this is real retarded .. sir

Posted by: Jentel at October 14, 2013 04:15 PM (/jHWN)

This ain't yo mamma's tampon

Posted by: The Dude at October 14, 2013 12:17 PM (vJdyz)

167 I've checked the NYSE. A hearty MEH has been posted today. We'll see about tomorrow, I guess but probably between zero and nada fucks will be given. This basically puts QE4 in play, which I'm stoked about.

Posted by: MJ at October 14, 2013 12:17 PM (PRPp1)

168 All Gabe does is attack conservatives, not Republicans or Democrats, conservatives. He does it all day on twitter. That.and criticizing every strategy, with respect to the budget mess, except folding.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 14, 2013 12:17 PM (9jLim)

169

I am not dying myself orange.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 14, 2013 04:16 PM (VtjlW)

You know, in the book they weren't orange, but actually a fetching shade of golden brown...

*tempt*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 14, 2013 12:17 PM (4df7R)

170 The sad thing is, the fact that hitting the debt limit may potentially wreck havoc on the economy (I'm in the dissent on that) is all the proof you need that our government is way out of control. In a sane world the government missing a few payments would not do any real damage. But yes your move mr Cruz. Don't you know that the government never really gets smaller. You and your silly beliefs. Game knows the senate rules. He has you cornered on this one. You are no match for gabes procedural knowledge.

Posted by: SH at October 14, 2013 12:17 PM (Vdd8W)

171 Am I missing something? I thought the debt limit was where we were going to fight

Posted by: SH at October 14, 2013 04:12 PM (pyh5u)

-----------------------------------

Correct me if I'm wrong. But has any legislation concerning this been passed and signed?

Posted by: Soona at October 14, 2013 12:17 PM (3Mz5/)

172 I am not dying myself orange. dyeing We will let you know when it's time to die.

Posted by: ObamaCare Panel [/i] at October 14, 2013 12:18 PM (U2UQk)

173 If had to choose between having friends who dealt meth, or friends who worked for the Senate...honestly, that's a tough call.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 14, 2013 12:18 PM (Q9qpj)

174 Obama is a Calvinist at heart. Say what? A Calvinist re: Calvin and Hobbes, perhaps.

Posted by: t-bird at October 14, 2013 12:18 PM (FcR7P)

175 Couldn't Boner write
The new debt ceiling is a brazallionty in crayon on a cocktail napkin.
The House voice polls FuckIt.
Wad it up and throw it down the hall.

Posted by: DaveA at October 14, 2013 12:18 PM (DL2i+)

176 Switch already. Then maybe you will attack democrats

Posted by: Thunderb at October 14, 2013 12:18 PM (zOTsN)

177

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 14, 2013 04:16 PM (nooa6)

spam is great though fried up with some pineapple though

Posted by: The Dude at October 14, 2013 12:18 PM (vJdyz)

178 150 I figured you'd like that

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 14, 2013 12:18 PM (nooa6)

179 The disturbing part of Willy Wonka is that both sets of Grandparents slept in the same bed, and appeared all but bedridden. Can you imagine the smell?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 14, 2013 12:18 PM (32Ze2)

180 this is not that hard you know

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 14, 2013 04:16 PM (nooa6)

What? No mention of Da Bears in that scenario?

*GASP!*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 14, 2013 12:18 PM (4df7R)

181 "Mommy" she said, "why are the Republicans doing this to the country?" Well, that was it for me: I finally fell apart. I just fell into her arms and we both began sobbing for several minutes. She had to comfort me and get me back on my feet. Sometimes I just think itÂ’s too much, but seeing the strength in my daughters voice helped me to get through. Posted by: CheChe v.7.0 at October 14, 2013 04:00 PM (U2UQk) Like I said, a lot of people think the government is an endless supply of money, and conservatives are just assholes who want to prevent them from getting any of it.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 12:19 PM (bb5+k)

182 Actually, if you wanted to crash the economy, suspending the SS checks would be a great way to do it, even if only for a week or two. Hey, I've got cash for a down payment. It's about time some of those old democrat bags of bones got kicked out of those nice houses that never go up for sale.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 14, 2013 12:19 PM (yETln)

183 If had to choose between having friends who dealt meth, or friends who worked for the Senate...honestly, that's a tough call. Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 14, 2013 04:18 PM (Q9qpj) Oh, Meth friends. They are Honest about what they do and why they do it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 14, 2013 12:19 PM (XIxXP)

184 I think it would help the debt problem if we borrowed MORE money at a faster rate.

Posted by: Krugatron the Magnificent at October 14, 2013 12:19 PM (EGPJQ)

185 168 Dr Spank at October 14, 2013 04:17 PM (9jLim)

While perhaps correct you're missing the awesomeness of his highly polished chromed bumper...

look at that sheen.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:19 PM (9jfyN)

186 I am not dying myself orange. How about blackface? In the original book the Ooompa Loompas were clearly black and probably from some place in Africa, but because of political correctness that never made it to the movies.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 14, 2013 12:19 PM (a4Omg)

187 Eye of the tiger baby!!

Posted by: Ben Bernanke at October 14, 2013 04:02 PM (wmU4G)

Hey, the Pilsbury Dough girl will be runnin the show soon. Obama pokes her in the belly and she giggles while money spews from the Treasury.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 14, 2013 04:03 PM (XIxXP)

These people must have stock in the Heidleburg company.

Check it out I just came across this exclusive footage of Ben at his home shop in suburban DC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okEPMABxkQE

Posted by: dananjcon at October 14, 2013 12:19 PM (wmU4G)

188 Maybe if Team SCOAMT hadn't spent all that money Barrycading everything in sight, the drop-dead date would be next week.

Posted by: steveegg at October 14, 2013 12:19 PM (o44nj)

189 It's all my fault

Posted by: Ditka at October 14, 2013 12:19 PM (/jHWN)

190 Does anyone here believe that a deal struck between Reid and McConnell is going to get unanimous consent from Senate Republicans? I sure don't. And don't forget, even if a deal makes it through the Senate, it then has to make it through the House. *** No. And, even a bigger "no" in the House. The scary thing is that Dems do not care about collateral damage. For them, the ends justifies the means and, if the shutdown is any indication of where cuts will be made, we can assume that the most painful, most visible cuts will take place. As someone who spent a number of years developing strategy for a half-billion dollar customer-industry at a multi-billion dollar company, I admire the strategy and messaging on the part of the Dems. I wish the Republicans had it even half as together as they. You can bet that, somewhere, is a white board with an "if this, then that" strategy scrawled across it... If R'pubs block this, then we follow with that... If the shutdown occurs, then we do this... If the citizenry goes apeshit, then when spin it this way... If we "default", how can we strike a blow, and how do we handle the fallout? Then they disseminate the message across the entirety of the party. Their leaders, Pelosi and Reid, make certain to spell out the consequences of straying from the party line. Although it appears that they can act on whim and turn on a dime, they do not. they have mapped out their responses to any number of issues in advance. If A then B if B then C. They are a machine. For all their claims of "feeling" the pain of others, they are altogether detached from the reality of that pain. They are the Terminator. And, although I admire their abilities, I wouldn't wish their brand of mental illness and lack of compassion on my worst enemy. The GOP may not be as good at strategizing and messaging, which must be addressed but, generally, they ARE on the side of causing the least amount of pain. It may sound like an over-simplification but, in my mind, this is a fight between good and evil.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 12:20 PM (DmNpO)

191 Say what? A Calvinist re: Calvin and Hobbes, perhaps. He's been playing Calvin ball for years now. Oh, and next up, magma porn.

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker, Friend Of Farmer Yoon,Wears Prada at October 14, 2013 12:20 PM (GxM1n)

192

179 The disturbing part of Willy Wonka is that both sets of Grandparents slept in the same bed, and appeared all but bedridden. Can you imagine the smell?

And they bought lottery tix.. Go figure.

Posted by: Krugatron the Magnificent at October 14, 2013 12:20 PM (EGPJQ)

193 I can't make fun of anyone's writing, I do the gaming threads :S

Posted by: The Dude at October 14, 2013 12:20 PM (vJdyz)

194 Can't we just 'deem it passed'?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 14, 2013 12:20 PM (l3vZN)

195 Where is drew for the rebuttal

Posted by: SH at October 14, 2013 12:20 PM (Vdd8W)

196 Don't get him going MWR.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 14, 2013 12:20 PM (HVff2)

197 I'm past caring whether we get blamed or not. The media needs cleansed. Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 04:02 PM (9jfyN) As always, I read down the postings till I find one that makes the most sense, and more than half the time your name is on it.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 12:20 PM (bb5+k)

198 Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 14, 2013 04:18 PM (32Ze2) Well, you probably don't think about that kind of thing when you're reading it at age 10.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 14, 2013 12:20 PM (a4Omg)

199

This is manufactured bullshit.

If Cruz goes along, you'll use it to call him a hypocrite.

I hope he tells you to go fuck yourselves.

Posted by: Invictus at October 14, 2013 12:20 PM (FBkKA)

200 Alternate Headline: "Your Move, Mr. Cruz." What is it about moving to Washington and accepting every premise that the MFM puts out?

Posted by: t-bird at October 14, 2013 12:21 PM (FcR7P)

201 The disturbing part of Willy Wonka is that both sets of Grandparents slept in the same bed, and appeared all but bedridden. Can you imagine the smell?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 14, 2013 04:18 PM (32Ze2)

I don't like to think about the bedsores. *SHUDDER*

I've never seen the Tim Burton version with Johnny Depp. Did they include the father in that one? It always peeved me that they left him out of the Gene Wilder film. Turned Charlie into the son of a single parent household instead of the son of an extended nuclear family. That always annoyed me.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 14, 2013 12:21 PM (4df7R)

202 I wonder what would happen if the Tea Party come out for gay marriage.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 14, 2013 12:21 PM (9jLim)

203 but because of political correctness that never made it to the movies. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 14, 2013 04:19 PM (a4Omg) Thank God.

Posted by: CAC at October 14, 2013 12:21 PM (2OjVZ)

204 btw, does anyone else find the real life Capt Philips very unlikable?

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 12:21 PM (uoB45)

205 What is it about moving to Washington and accepting every premise that the MFM puts out?

Posted by: t-bird at October 14, 2013 04:21 PM (FcR7P)

DAMN YOU WHITEYBOT!!!

Posted by: The Dude at October 14, 2013 12:21 PM (vJdyz)

206 Yeah, Gabe, if only we'd just shut up and line up behind the stalwarts of the GOP brand: John McCain, Susan Collins, Peter King, Lindsey Graham, we'd...

...accomplish what, exactly?

Posted by: Ken at October 14, 2013 12:22 PM (yREmK)

207 190 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 04:20 PM (DmNpO)

Well said, of course the desire to inflict minimal pain is why we lose ma'am. We lack resolve and will. Donkey will get a dictatorship because we blink.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:22 PM (9jfyN)

208 OT....

From the last thread: Am I the only one who thinks that Ana Marie Cox, just on the basis of her name, should be much better looking? Or more accurately; not nearly as ugly as she is?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2013 12:22 PM (/kU/5)

209 I don't think there's anything wrong with Gabe's logic, but I don't exactly agree with it. He has a different opinion than most on the site, but at least he has a well thought out and reasoned argument. Muy guess is that he wants to see the party survive and most on the site don't really care. *waits for scorn

Posted by: MJ at October 14, 2013 12:22 PM (PRPp1)

210 It's all my fault

Posted by: Ditka at October 14, 2013 04:19 PM (/jHWN)

________________________

You're G-d Damn right it is!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 14, 2013 12:22 PM (32Ze2)

211 31 Per the Constitution, the interest on the debt gets paid 1st, so there shouldn't be a default. I know, I know, it's only the Constitution. To be honest, if they declared the 14th amendment null and void, I wouldn't cry all that much. Poorly written piece of trash.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 14, 2013 12:22 PM (T0NGe)

212 Gee Gabe, I thought you were all "rah rah" for using the debt ceiling as leverage, and not a fan of the shutdown. I mean, Who could POSSIBLY have predicted this dickheaded brinksmanship from the dems?

Oh, wait, *everyone* that's not a rino squish poseur predicted it...

Posted by: Gman at October 14, 2013 12:22 PM (UkbKS)

213 The disturbing part of Willy Wonka is that both sets of Grandparents slept in the same bed, and appeared all but bedridden. Can you imagine the smell? That part of the movie pissed me off. What were they, late sixties? They could have helped the family out if they wanted to. They were supposed to have been in that bed twenty years, right? So they climbed into bed in their late forties and became living, breathing bedbugs?

Posted by: bonhomme at October 14, 2013 12:22 PM (yETln)

214 You know, in the book they weren't orange, but actually a fetching shade of golden brown... *tempt* Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 14, 2013 04:17 PM (4df7R) I am not dyEing myself a fetching shade of golden brown.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 14, 2013 12:22 PM (VtjlW)

215

180 already got my bears reference in

making preps for Da Bulls though

anywho, OT: speaking of Da BEARS, Mike Ditka wrote a piece saying he's basically at fault for all this for not running for the senate

smart money says he would have beat Obama and we would have never been in this mess

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 14, 2013 12:22 PM (nooa6)

216 Those worthless fucks on the Hill need a way to get out of this, so is there still time to blame it on a bully? Bring on the sweet, sweet chin music!

Posted by: Fritz at October 14, 2013 12:22 PM (x2W/k)

217 Or more accurately; not nearly as ugly as she is? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2013 04:22 PM (/kU/5) The beauty of taking the rear entrance is never having to deal with the front door.

Posted by: CAC at October 14, 2013 12:22 PM (2OjVZ)

218 Cute Gabe..... Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 14, 2013 04:04 PM (bCEmE) Did you take it as snark? That's how I took it. Yes, let's blame the only person trying to bring attention to the problem. THAT's helpful.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 12:23 PM (bb5+k)

219 It's the law! We won! Can't undo a law once it's the law. I know, I read it at Slate.

Posted by: Democrat Harpy at October 14, 2013 12:23 PM (/jHWN)

220 197 Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 04:20 PM (bb5+k)

Thanks, I appreciate it. I am learning to appreciate not being in the same party as the suave Truck Driving Cob as well.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:23 PM (9jfyN)

221 Good. "Let it burn" isn't just a slogan. It's going to happen at some point. Better now than later.

Posted by: Palandine[/i] at October 14, 2013 12:23 PM (OldRG)

222 I really need to know what meggy Mac thinks before I can form an opinion as to what mr Cruz next move should be

Posted by: SH at October 14, 2013 12:23 PM (Vdd8W)

223

My guess is that he wants to see the party survive and most on the site don't really care.

The Whigs were also wanting their party to survive.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 14, 2013 12:23 PM (4Fpt9)

224 btw, does anyone else find the real life Capt Philips very unlikable? Apparently all of his crew. They railed against the movie.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 14, 2013 12:23 PM (T0NGe)

225 Muy guess is that he wants to see the party survive and most on the site don't really care. Actually, .........

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker, Friend Of Farmer Yoon,Wears Prada at October 14, 2013 12:23 PM (GxM1n)

226 Everyone keeps talking about Civil War, but I have a better possibility....A war with China. That way we could cancel the debt owed to China as a war measure, seize all Chinese assets, and have an excuse to go to a "war economy" which is the only thing a Keynesian economic model is good for. Now we just need to sucker the Chinese to do something provocative, which they are fully capable of doing because it is clear they are wanting to brawl for their own domestic reasons with someone.

Posted by: William Eaton at October 14, 2013 12:23 PM (rLRIj)

227 Okay this is OT. And probably a bit ecchi. AKB48. I need you, I want you. But its also bouncy and fluffy along with lots of desert and cheesecake. Which for a Monday with all the heavy posts, we need.

http://youtu.be/lkHlnWFnA0c

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2013 12:24 PM (uj8Oa)

228 anyone remember y2k?

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 14, 2013 12:24 PM (8JJ6O)

229 This is manufactured bullshit. No. No. With agreement with Bill Jefferson Cliton, in return for $7,500 in donations from Chinatown busboys and waiters we get to manufacture all bullshit formerly done in US of A. Trade War results China 1 USA 0.

Posted by: Peoples Republic of China [/i] at October 14, 2013 12:24 PM (U2UQk)

230

I can't wait for Boehner to fold like a Walmart lawn chair... With tears... and Marlboros... and McCain and Graham in the background at the presser.

Never ever again... I'd actually rather suffer through a takeover of the House than watch these clowns roll over like he wussies they are.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 14, 2013 12:24 PM (EGPJQ)

231 Did you take it as snark? That's how I took it.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 04:23 PM (bb5+k)

lol no, this isn't snark from Gabe. This is what he actually believes

Posted by: The Dude at October 14, 2013 12:24 PM (vJdyz)

232 I am not dyEing myself a fetching shade of golden brown.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 14, 2013 04:22 PM (VtjlW)

*POUT*

Okaaaaay.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 14, 2013 12:24 PM (4df7R)

233 From the NY Post- "Captain Phillips" is one big lie: http://nypost.com/2013/10/13/crew-members-deny-captain-phillips-heroism/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 14, 2013 12:24 PM (a4Omg)

234 To be honest, if they declared the 14th amendment null and void, I wouldn't cry all that much. Poorly written piece of trash.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 14, 2013 04:22 PM (T0NGe)

Maybe poorly written, but incredibly poorly interpreted.

Posted by: tofer732 at October 14, 2013 12:24 PM (z3MpN)

235 Before you buy into October 17th as a hard and fast date for financial armageddon, read this: http://goo.gl/q34ZDi

Posted by: Andy at October 14, 2013 12:24 PM (0ZQCB)

236

SCORN, SCORN & MORE SCORN....

Whats the diff between Harry Reid, John Mc Cain & Gabe????? Nothing. Nothing and nothing. A fucking party doesn't stand for anything should fucking go away and die.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 14, 2013 12:24 PM (HVff2)

237 75 Dear G-d, why don't we just give up and get David Frum as a co-blogger, anyhow ... ? Posted by: I have MS-NBC for that at October 14, 2013 04:06 PM (sq9q3) Feels like he's already here.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 12:25 PM (bb5+k)

238 Muy guess is that he wants to see the party survive and most on the site don't really care. *waits for scorn Posted by: MJ at October 14, 2013 04:22 PM (PRPp1) You are correct, the party no longer represents me. It needs overhauled or destroyed and it will happen, one way or the other.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 14, 2013 12:25 PM (XIxXP)

239 I did not take it as snark. Gabe hates the tea party, and wants them gone.

Posted by: Thunderb at October 14, 2013 12:25 PM (zOTsN)

240 Did you take it as snark? That's how I took it. Yes, let's blame the only person trying to bring attention to the problem. THAT's helpful. Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 04:23 PM (bb5+k) Of course it's snark....it's Gabe. Smug is his middle name.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 14, 2013 12:25 PM (bCEmE)

241 And another thing, how in the hell is it now Cruz's move? I'm know I'm a simple minded dipshit (voted for McCain and Romney) but isn't Sen. Cruz 1 of 99? In the minority party? And the junior Senator from his own state? If he has enough power to end the whole sorry episode then we are way past LIB. We have entered the wtf is next stage!

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at October 14, 2013 12:25 PM (X+nFp)

242 Oct 17th is Mrs. Sailors B-Day.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 14, 2013 12:25 PM (XIxXP)

243 Alternate Headline: "Your Move, ~~Mr. Cruz~~ President McCain"

Fixed. For Free.

I'm a giver. I give. I live to give. So take it. Go on, take it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 14, 2013 12:25 PM (xbjUC)

244 Oh sorry DL, I misread your post....

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 14, 2013 12:25 PM (bCEmE)

245

One Trillion Dollar Coin!

Posted by: Kaboom Kid at October 14, 2013 04:04 PM (DHQv9)

I can give you $50 for it. Cash money. That's as high as I'll go.

Posted by: Chumlee at October 14, 2013 12:26 PM (wAQA5)

246

235 andy, you know you can't bring FACTS into a gabe thread

stop that

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 14, 2013 12:26 PM (nooa6)

247 @204 RE: Capt Phillips.. read an article this weekend that Drudge linked to , don't remember where, but basically the crew was disputing the storyline of the movie, big-time, and didn't reflect well at all on the character of Capt' Phillips. Seems he got pushed out into the light and knighted for all the wrong reasons.

Posted by: Yip at October 14, 2013 12:26 PM (/jHWN)

248 So the real Capt. Phillips is much like our Sec. of State Horseface?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2013 12:26 PM (uj8Oa)

249

I don't understand the cosmic significance of the debt ceiling deadline.

Does anyone who holds U.S. government bonds actually think they will not be paid their interest? Is there anyone in the world that stupid?

What kind of "collapse" do these media idiots envision? Will hordes of bondholders panic and sell their U.S. treasury bonds for pennies on the dollar if the deadline is missed?

Posted by: jwest at October 14, 2013 12:26 PM (u2a4R)

250 We've hit the debt ceiling several times in the recent past. Twice under Reagan, the Treasury was forced to allocate incoming tax revenues to pay interest first. It may be difficult, but competent administrations have dealt with the problem successfully before now.

Posted by: MTF at October 14, 2013 12:26 PM (4FvdX)

251 It's Y2K all over again.......

Posted by: Regular Guy at October 14, 2013 12:26 PM (N3Al8)

252 The beauty of taking the rear entrance is never having to deal with the front door.

Posted by: CAC at October 14, 2013 04:22 PM (2OjVZ)

You really are a troublemaker and an instigator.

[that's why you fit in so well....]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2013 12:26 PM (/kU/5)

253 @227 Mmmmmm...Japanese babes....

Posted by: William Eaton at October 14, 2013 12:27 PM (rLRIj)

254 Have Bob Costas explain what it is so we can watch TwoBrokeGirls with cultural understanding.

Posted by: NCwoof at October 14, 2013 12:27 PM (aUQgu)

255

Gee Gabe, I thought you were all "rah rah" for using the debt ceiling as leverage, and not a fan of the shutdown. I mean, Who could POSSIBLY have predicted this dickheaded brinksmanship from the dems?

He was also a fan of the delay CR until that was what we went with.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 14, 2013 12:27 PM (TpXEI)

256 anyone remember y2k?

The power went out...because a squirrel committed suicide in a transformer.

Very exciting.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 14, 2013 12:27 PM (/kI1Q)

257

Only time to correct a few errors.

It would not take a day to draft a debt limit extension. You - literally - just change the numbers and dates from the last one. This is a puzzling assertion, really.

The whole week-long timetable assumed objection to unanimous consent. Without that objection, the whole thing could be wrapped up in an hour. There's no ripening period for Senate business, only budget resolutions carry statutory debate times, etc.

"Your move, Mr. Cruz" when you then note that the House (duh) needs to approve the same vehicle? Huh? What sense does that make?

Sorry, Gabe, you need better Senate friends. In addition to a few other things, but I'll eschew the vituperative and invidious lecture at this juncture.

Posted by: non-purist at October 14, 2013 12:27 PM (afQnV)

258 223 Vashta Nerada at October 14, 2013 04:23 PM (4Fpt9)

If the Republican Party's "survival" requires it to deny Math and Econ realities we can get by with just one party rule in my opinion.

I *was* a Republican you know the Party that freed the slaves, managed not to get us into world wars, defended political liberty?

I'm pretty sure I am either in the "cannon fodder" or "libertarian" party now.

If the "genius wing" of the GOP spent half the time trying to undo the leftoids' war on coal and fuel that they do ratfucking the conservatives this would still be a beautiful city instead of a city in flames.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:27 PM (9jfyN)

259
I can give you $50 for it. Cash money.That's as high as I'll go.

Posted by: Chumlee at October 14, 2013 04:26 PM (wAQA5)

Good one heh

Posted by: Regular Guy at October 14, 2013 12:27 PM (N3Al8)

260 "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to dye."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 14, 2013 12:27 PM (0HooB)

261 The crazy thing is these twerps follow Parliamentary Procedure religiously. Reid or somebody recently referred to someone by their first name and publicly apologized for it! Posted by: bonhomme at October 14, 2013 04:09 PM (yETln) Kabuki dance. Big on procedure, small on principles.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 12:27 PM (bb5+k)

262 I've never seen the Tim Burton version with Johnny Depp Count yourself lucky. With the suggestion that Willy Wonka was rather like Michael Jackson a child molester it was creepy beyond words and not-IMO-in keeping with the original book .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 14, 2013 12:27 PM (a4Omg)

263 *POUT* Okaaaaay. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 14, 2013 04:24 PM (4df7R) Go read NFL QBs on Facebook for this week. Scroll down to see the icon they use for Bob Costas. Moron level snark.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 14, 2013 12:27 PM (VtjlW)

264
Ace is like Rush. The Gold Standard. We understand there can only be one.

But Gabe is like a 7-year-old imitating Sean Hannity. Imitating Alan Colmes.

Posted by: Carlos F. Danger at October 14, 2013 12:28 PM (qxcKC)

265 We were all better off when Wonkette kept her writings close to her intellectual level: her trials and tribulations with anal sex.

Now that she tries to act like an adult?

Not so much.

Posted by: MacGruber at October 14, 2013 12:28 PM (zZSmI)

266 Let it default. I've already shorted the market. Barak will help me close out my positions when I've made another ton of money, like a good little puppet should.

Posted by: George Soros at October 14, 2013 12:28 PM (VrVBw)

267

you know what's fucked up about this thread?

the cob who put it up knew it would cause an uproar but he won't defend his position

at least JeffB will take his asskicking like a man when he posts stupid shit

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 14, 2013 12:28 PM (nooa6)

268

btw, does anyone else find the real life Capt Philips very unlikable?

I honestly couldn't say. All that I cared about this past weekend was that Tom Hanks' latest cinematic extravaganza couldn't even swing first place. That makes me feel happy in all the right places.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 14, 2013 12:29 PM (4df7R)

269 You are correct, the party no longer represents me. It needs overhauled or destroyed and it will happen, one way or the other. This construction really bugs me. It's needs "to be" overhauled, or "needs an overhaul". That construction is just as irritating as "totes" or "LOL"!

Posted by: bonhomme at October 14, 2013 12:29 PM (yETln)

270 206 Yeah, Gabe, if only we'd just shut up and line up behind the stalwarts of the GOP brand: John McCain, Susan Collins, Peter King, Lindsey Graham, we'd... ...accomplish what, exactly? --- We'd surrender with pseudo-dignity.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 14, 2013 12:29 PM (PjgvN)

271

One man. One man with a bit of honesty and conservative views and willing to take political risk is being accused of bringing DC to a standstill.

Just think what ten or fifteen more could do.

Posted by: Soona at October 14, 2013 12:29 PM (3Mz5/)

272 We've hit the debt ceiling several times in the recent past. Twice under Reagan, the Treasury was forced to allocate incoming tax revenues to pay interest first. It may be difficult, but competent administrations have dealt with the problem successfully before now.

Posted by: MTF at October 14, 2013 04:26 PM (4FvdX)

now you have me worried

Posted by: tofer732 at October 14, 2013 12:29 PM (z3MpN)

273

It may be difficult, but competent administrations have dealt with the problem successfully before now.

In other words, we're screwed.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 14, 2013 12:29 PM (0HooB)

274 Imitating Alan Colmes. Sure hope he doesn't look like the Commie. That would be truly awful.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at October 14, 2013 12:30 PM (vd7A8)

275
From the last thread: Am I the only one who thinks that Ana Marie Cox, just on the basis of her name, should be much better looking? Or more accurately; not nearly as ugly as she is?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2013 04:22 PM (/kU/5)

Meh..I gotta say....she's a little too trendy, hipsterish for me but...I'd hit it.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 14, 2013 12:30 PM (wmU4G)

276 Call their bluff. If not now, when?

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (Mentioned in Despatches) at October 14, 2013 12:30 PM (yL0v8)

277 MWR, lol. Well this video is in part one giant slumber party for AKB48. Along with a desert food fest. Acting like cats. Kissing each other. Even a tub scene or two. So I figured it would be Moron friendly...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2013 12:30 PM (uj8Oa)

278

♫ You gotta fight ♫

♫ For your right ♫

♫ To Remain a Par-ty ♫

Posted by: Beasty Boys at October 14, 2013 12:30 PM (Pr6hk)

279 Count your blessings, NCJ. The topic is worthy of discussion, the last thing it needs is him. His fan club seems to be dying to talk to him, and I expect 500 posts next time he chimes in.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 14, 2013 12:30 PM (ZshNr)

280 You have to bump up against the debt ceiling to know what's in it!

Posted by: Pelosi Galore at October 14, 2013 12:31 PM (yFb77)

281 Go read NFL QBs on Facebook for this week. Scroll down to see the icon they use for Bob Costas.

Moron level snark.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 14, 2013 04:27 PM (VtjlW)

Ooh, that's right! New one's up, isn't it? Score!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 14, 2013 12:31 PM (4df7R)

282 131 Cruz is the bogeyman du jour for the "go along to get along" snivelers. "I'm a Republican, but I completely oppose the fringe antics of Cruz, Lee, Palin, Fill In the Blank. Posted by: Lincolntf at October 14, 2013 04:13 PM (ZshNr) Revolution will have their heads in the guillotine first I think.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 12:31 PM (bb5+k)

283 let it burn, it's going to happen anyway and we ain't getting any younger

Posted by: DanMan at October 14, 2013 12:31 PM (RusNE)

284 Scissoring... just sayin' ( makes funny fap fap with hands )

Posted by: Yip at October 14, 2013 12:31 PM (/jHWN)

285 271 WalrusRex at October 14, 2013 04:29 PM (PjgvN)

We'd surrender with pseudo-dignity.

and a buck toothed heterosexual lifepartnered grin

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:31 PM (9jfyN)

286 This construction really bugs me. It's needs "to be" overhauled, or "needs an overhaul". That construction is just as irritating as "totes" or "LOL"! Posted by: bonhomme at October 14, 2013 04:29 PM (yETln) Werd up, Ise hear ya. I B wurkin more beter on my ingelesh.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 14, 2013 12:31 PM (XIxXP)

287 at least JeffB will take his asskicking like a man when he posts stupid shit

Posted by: navycopjoe

JeffB doesn't come here for the fishing.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 14, 2013 12:31 PM (xbjUC)

288 Unprecedented.

America, you have been transformed. Happy now?

Posted by: West at October 14, 2013 12:31 PM (1Rgee)

289 Gabe, just what was the debt ceiling battle supposed to be about?

Posted by: eman at October 14, 2013 12:31 PM (EvleW)

290 I'd hit it...in the butt Posted by: dananjcon at October 14, 2013 04:30 PM (wmU4G)

Posted by: CAC at October 14, 2013 12:31 PM (2OjVZ)

291 Who is Ted Cruz?

Posted by: 90% of the Population at October 14, 2013 12:31 PM (PRPp1)

292 Sorry, Gabe, you need better Senate friends. In addition to a few other things, but I'll eschew the vituperative and invidious lecture at this juncture.

Posted by: non-purist at October 14, 2013 04:27 PM (afQnV)

-- This !

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 14, 2013 12:31 PM (R8hU8)

293 Scissoring... just sayin' ( makes funny fap fap with hands )

Posted by: Yip at October 14, 2013 04:31 PM (/jHWN)

that's called tribbing, sir

Posted by: The Dude at October 14, 2013 12:32 PM (vJdyz)

294 Well said, of course the desire to inflict minimal pain is why we lose ma'am. We lack resolve and will. Donkey will get a dictatorship because we blink. *** At the least, we must learn to inflict a wound upon the enemy.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 12:32 PM (DmNpO)

295

275 Imitating Alan Colmes.

Sure hope he doesn't look like the Commie. That would be truly awful

Skeletor. Just in time for Holloween.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 14, 2013 12:32 PM (DHQv9)

296 MWR, lol. Well this video is in part one giant slumber party for AKB48. Along with a desert food fest. Acting like cats. Kissing each other. Even a tub scene or two. So I figured it would be Moron friendly...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2013 04:30 PM (uj8Oa)

You have chosen... wisely.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 14, 2013 12:32 PM (4df7R)

297 To the original post. I did. I tried like hell to stifle that yawn. Couldn't stop it. It ain't a default till the Obama tells Treasury to quit paying debt. I know you know that, just reminding. Realizing he's a big enough ass-hat do do that on Day 1. But at this point I could just give a flying **** about hitting the debt ceiling without the Dems backing up on one damned bit of anything. Rigged polls be damned, we're doing better than we ever have on the PR front.

Posted by: Dominari Nolo at October 14, 2013 12:32 PM (wrsaH)

298 There will be economic peace in our time.

Posted by: Neville Chamberlain-McConnell at October 14, 2013 12:33 PM (Pr6hk)

299

But Gabe is like a 7-year-old imitating Sean Hannity. Imitating Alan Colmes

MICHAEL MEDVED EVIL TWIN BROTHER

There fify .

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 14, 2013 12:33 PM (HVff2)

300 BTW, the Dems, Tom Harkin specifically, are quoting John McCain from the floor...again. He has got to go.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 12:33 PM (DmNpO)

301 We should get a tin debt ceiling, they last forever.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 14, 2013 12:33 PM (ZshNr)

302 This construction really bugs me. It's needs "to be" overhauled, I think of it as a Pennsylvania Dutch construction. I grew up with "needs overhauled".

Posted by: t-bird at October 14, 2013 12:33 PM (FcR7P)

303 Wonkette is a seriously disturbed woman.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 14, 2013 12:33 PM (a4Omg)

304

Gabe's a nice guy, but this entire essay is based on bullshit.

Sure, if everyone followed procedure and the law, certain things would take a set amount of time. However, this is the U.S. government operating under the Obama administration.

The rules of the Senate and laws governing how other laws are made are "fluid". Especially with a compliant press, anything anyone wants to do is fine and dandy, whether it complied with the old rules and law or not.

Posted by: jwest at October 14, 2013 12:33 PM (u2a4R)

305
Titties and beer,
(Titties and beer,)
Big old titties and beer
(Titties and beer,)
I thank God almighty for titties and beer
(fat titties and beer)

Posted by: Sphynx at October 14, 2013 12:33 PM (OZmbA)

306 Actually Capt. Phillips sounds like Capt. Marcus Arnheiter. After only 99 days in command of USS Vance was relieved of his command.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2013 12:33 PM (uj8Oa)

307 272 Soona at October 14, 2013 04:29 PM (3Mz5/)

One man. One man with a bit of honesty and conservative views and willing to take political risk is being accused of bringing DC to a standstill.

Just think what ten or fifteen more could do.

I aim to find out.

We would be better off with 15 good men and women making the point that we are a nation of abundant resources and when unfettered great industry than continuing FDR's Lysenkoist vision.

Burn the GOP to the ground if need be, Reality needs a caucus too.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:33 PM (9jfyN)

308 The whole week-long timetable assumed objection to unanimous consent. Without that objection, the whole thing could be wrapped up in an hour. There's no ripening period for Senate business, only budget resolutions carry statutory debate times, etc. "Your move, Mr. Cruz" when you then note that the House (duh) needs to approve the same vehicle? Huh? What sense does that make? If you want unanimous consent, the guy to go through is Rand Paul. He'll hold things up if he's feeling moody.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 14, 2013 12:34 PM (T0NGe)

309 The most political Sec of Treasury evah, Lew, says he can't pay his bills. I call Bullshit, but never let a crisis go without a fight. Expect the world to come to an end sometime Thursday, that or NY Times' editors explode. Let's hope for the second.

Posted by: The Tooth Fairy at October 14, 2013 12:34 PM (0FSuD)

310 Oh boy !!!!! I am so stocking up on popcorn today and delightful beverages

Posted by: The at October 14, 2013 12:34 PM (anek1)

311 gasp... I'm choking over here.

Posted by: Ana Cox at October 14, 2013 12:34 PM (/jHWN)

312

We have nothing to fear with Obama in the White House

Posted by: Juan McLame at October 14, 2013 12:34 PM (Pr6hk)

313

As noted above, the Constitution makes it quite simple, up to a point: debt service and repayment of principal gets done, first. Then, with the (ample, in this case) funds left over out of federal cash flow, other things get done. But, as also noted above, as the Constitution is (no hyperbole) basically a dead letter whenever deemed convenient by looters and social engineers (this latter group includes the racist and sex-preference jihadis, btw). If it takes two centuries to even consider enforcing perhaps the clearest mandate in the entire document (2nd Amendment), and even then it's mangled and partially done, well let's not pretend to wonder what will happen to the 14th the first time it's called into action.

Oh - and one other option - though I cannot believe it will get to this, unfortunately - in the event of the cash-flow-only fed. govt. funding, does anyone doubt that they will pull a "California". To summarize, in that maneuver (also wildly and hilariously unlawful and unconstitutional when it was done here in CA), the "government" just starts stiffing contractors, er, paying them IOUs (ditto for tax refunds). Absurd? Yes. Unlawful? You betcha. Humiliating and an act of political suicide in this country as short as 10 years ago? Obviously. Today - something (literally) barely noted by the dumbed-down, NPR-stupid electorate, which doesn't have the first idea how its government is supposed to work, anyway.

Posted by: non-purist at October 14, 2013 12:35 PM (afQnV)

314 Burgers and Brats on the grill this evening. Later ronulons.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 14, 2013 12:35 PM (XIxXP)

315 btw, knucklehead, when is it obama's move? last I heard, obama was still the president, Cruz was just one senator in the minority party. Isnt about time obama actually lead for once? But no, its Your Move, hee hee, Sen. Cruz.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 12:35 PM (uoB45)

316 Who?

Posted by: 90% of the Population at October 14, 2013 12:35 PM (PRPp1)

317 *passes to Ana Marie Cox the Colon Blow*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2013 12:35 PM (uj8Oa)

318 295 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 04:32 PM (DmNpO)

At the least, we must learn to inflict a wound upon the enemy.

I suspect 40% or so of the GOP DC "servants" think you and I are the enemy...

this is them landing their blow.

We need a party with a simple creed.

"Let America Work"

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:35 PM (9jfyN)

319 Can we have fireworks with our popcorn

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at October 14, 2013 12:36 PM (anek1)

320 The Republican leadership looks as bewildered as those guys in wing collars on the quarterdeck of the Missouri.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at October 14, 2013 12:36 PM (x4x3r)

321

My prediction?

P A I N

Posted by: Barry "Clubber Lang" Soetoro at October 14, 2013 12:36 PM (Pr6hk)

322 Here we were, piling up debt upon future generations of Americans who aren't old enough to vote, when the Tea Party radicals had to come ruin it all with their unpatriotic fiscal responsibility.

Posted by: Republicrats at October 14, 2013 12:37 PM (bmp0d)

323 Oh! TED Cruz. I thought you meant Tom Cruise. Still don't know who he is.

Posted by: 90% of the Population at October 14, 2013 12:37 PM (PRPp1)

324 So what your saying is that this weekend's Military Drill weekend is gonna be cancelled also? I'd say I need the time off, but all that is going to do is back me up something awful in the next few months

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2013 12:37 PM (UbDLm)

325 We should get a tin debt ceiling, they last forever. Yeah, but they are noisy as hell when it's raining men. Show tune porn, with a capital P that rhymes with T for titties. Seroquel. If it can't be part of the solution, at least it can be part of the problem.

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker, Friend Of Farmer Yoon,Wears Prada at October 14, 2013 12:37 PM (GxM1n)

326 party no longer represents me. --- Reagan said that he didn't leave the Donk party, the Donk party left him.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 14, 2013 12:37 PM (PjgvN)

327 Isnt about time obama actually lead for once? Literally everyone in Washington treats Obama as if he were a spoiled special-needs child.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 14, 2013 12:37 PM (T0NGe)

328
You know all those oaths that elected officials take, to ". . . preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States . . . " ??

Just what happens to said officials when they betray their oath?

And who enforces that happening?

Posted by: Sphynx at October 14, 2013 12:37 PM (OZmbA)

329 What is it about moving to Washington and accepting every premise that the MFM puts out? Posted by: t-bird at October 14, 2013 04:21 PM (FcR7P) Yup. That's my guess as well. There is something weird about that place.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 12:37 PM (bb5+k)

330 Prior to 1973, all games were blacked out in the home city of origin regardless of whether they were sold out. This policy, dating back to the NFL's emerging television years, resulted in home-city blackouts even during championship games. For instance, the 1958 "Greatest Game Ever Played" between the Baltimore Colts and New York Giants was unavailable to New York fans despite the sellout. (Many fans rented hotel rooms in Connecticut to watch the game on Hartford TV, a practice that continued for Giants games through 1972.) Similarly, all Super Bowl games prior to 1973 were unavailable in the host city's market.

The policy was put into effect when, in 1972, the Washington Redskins made the playoffs for only the second time in 27 seasons. Because all home games were blacked-out, politicians Â– including devout football fan President Richard Nixon Â— were not able to watch their home team win. NFL commissioner Pete Rozelle refused to lift the blackout, despite a plea from United States Attorney General Richard Kleindienst. Kleindienst was to suggest that the United States Congress re-evaluate the NFL's antitrust exemption.

Rozelle agreed to lift the blackout for Super Bowl VII on an "experimental basis." Nonetheless, Congress intervened before the 1973 season anyway, passing Public Law 93-107, which eliminated the blackout of games in the home market so long as the game was sold out by 72 hours before game time. The league will sometimes change this deadline to 48 hours if there are only a few thousand tickets left unsold; much more rarely, they will occasionally extend this to 24 hours in special cases.

... I seem to recall that Public Law 93-107 passed in record time.... and speaking if the "Washington Redskins" .. I find the use of "Washington" in the team's name offensive.

Perhaps the "Anacostia Deficits" would be better

Posted by: BearManPig at October 14, 2013 12:37 PM (e8kgV)

331 Will my EBT card still work? Then who cares.

Posted by: 50% of the Population at October 14, 2013 12:38 PM (PRPp1)

332 323 Here we were, piling up debt upon future generations of Americans who aren't old enough to vote, when the Tea Party radicals had to come ruin it all with their unpatriotic fiscal responsibility. Say what you want about strategy, I like being the "meddling kids".

Posted by: AmishDude at October 14, 2013 12:38 PM (T0NGe)

333 Literally everyone in Washington treats Obama as if he were a spoiled special-needs child. Posted by: AmishDude at October 14, 2013 04:37 PM (T0NGe) Like retarded?

Posted by: That Jannette gal at October 14, 2013 12:38 PM (UbDLm)

334

@329

Nothing.

Nobody.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 14, 2013 12:38 PM (0HooB)

335

I have found the one group I am willing to fight

The citizens of the United States

Posted by: Captain Kick-Ass at October 14, 2013 12:39 PM (Pr6hk)

336 that cocksucker obama ran in '08 as Mr Fix It then he ran again in '12 as Mr I Fixed It, Let Me Fix It Some More I just realized what obama 'fixed.' The elections.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 12:39 PM (uoB45)

337 If President Obama - or any President - refuses to direct the Treasury to continue to make payments on Treasury bonds and other Federal debt instruments as scheduled he should be impeached and removed from office.

Posted by: RonF at October 14, 2013 12:39 PM (l8nW6)

338 MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL!!!!

Posted by: 50% of the Population at October 14, 2013 12:39 PM (PRPp1)

339 Hey, I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die. http://tinyurl.com/2ynlmu

Posted by: Johnny, I don't give a shit at October 14, 2013 12:39 PM (0FSuD)

340 I need a drink

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2013 12:40 PM (UbDLm)

341 To be honest, if they declared the 14th amendment null and void, I wouldn't cry all that much. Poorly written piece of trash. Posted by: AmishDude at October 14, 2013 04:22 PM (T0NGe) Agreed. It is responsible for some of the worst abuses of constitutional governance since at least FDR. It is used to justify all sorts of nonsense that has nothing to do with it's intended purpose.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 12:40 PM (bb5+k)

342 MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL!!!! Posted by: 50% of the Population at October 14, 2013 04:39 PM (PRPp1) *** well, yeah, I'm kind of with them on that one.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 12:40 PM (DmNpO)

343 Thank god he's gonna get drunk and watch Monday Night Football. At least he won't be pawing at me tonight looking for a trip on the tuna boat. That Tom Cruise sure is handsome.

Posted by: 50% of the Population (female) at October 14, 2013 12:40 PM (PRPp1)

344 Titties and Beer !!

Posted by: 90% of population and 99% of Congress at October 14, 2013 12:40 PM (OZmbA)

345 This is the hill we chose to die on.

We died.

Posted by: Gidget at October 14, 2013 12:40 PM (tfg7i)

346 Actually Capt. Phillips sounds like Capt. Marcus Arnheiter. After only 99 days in command of USS Vance was relieved of his command. --- Real life Captain Queeg.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 14, 2013 12:41 PM (PjgvN)

347 At least he won't be pawing at me tonight looking for a trip on the tuna boat. Wow. I never heard that one before

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2013 12:41 PM (UbDLm)

348 So here's a guy who never leads; he pontificates. Indeed, it Is your move, Mr Cruz. Because BY GOD we desperately need a leader in this country who will stand up and speak out for what is right. Long live Ted Cruz.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 12:41 PM (uoB45)

349 341 Nevergiveup at October 14, 2013 04:40 PM (UbDLm)

I need a drink

You know...that's a line from a song...

http://youtu.be/dI6Et_DTSJc

Daisychain 4 Satan

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:41 PM (9jfyN)

350 Gabe certainly is a nice young man.

Posted by: 10% of AoS Commenters at October 14, 2013 12:42 PM (PRPp1)

351 How is the most powerful man in Washington the junior senator from Texas in the out party?

Posted by: SH at October 14, 2013 12:42 PM (RM1gx)

352 Just read an article over at Reason about the deeper failures of Obamacare. Ironic, isn't it that almost everyone admits that the Obamacare roll-out was a failure and people are noticing non-technical problems that might not be able to be easily fixed and just as this happens, Republicans......

surrender.

Posted by: jeannebodine at October 14, 2013 12:42 PM (2LJqa)

353

Excuse me Boss. Has DHS called me to fix the website yet?

Posted by: Dr Gosnell at October 14, 2013 12:42 PM (Pr6hk)

354 "Congress has also indirectly affected Treasury Department policy by waiting until the last possible hour to extend the debt ceiling or actually letting it expire, something that has occurred on numerous occasions since 1976. " "Congress and the Politics of Statuatory Debt Limitation" http://bit.ly/GOdXLM P .21

Posted by: MTF at October 14, 2013 12:42 PM (5TH5k)

355 345 Titties and Beer !! The new panem et circenses

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at October 14, 2013 12:42 PM (anek1)

356 Thanks, I appreciate it. I am learning to appreciate not being in the same party as the suave Truck Driving Cob as well. Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 04:23 PM (9jfyN) I think Gabe's primary problem is that he has fallen into a bad crowd. (Washington area lawyers.) Herd mentality is a powerful psychological force. Hard to fight against it when you have to associate with people.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 12:42 PM (bb5+k)

357 304 Wonkette is a seriously disturbed woman. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 14, 2013 04:33 PM (a4Omg) If you'd had several hundred dicks up your ass you would be a little fucked up too. Or ghey or both?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 14, 2013 12:42 PM (0FSuD)

358 Funny thing is that working people will be the last to be effected from a total Gov collapse. EBT clients not so much..Tee Hee

Posted by: Regular Guy at October 14, 2013 12:42 PM (N3Al8)

359 SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!

Posted by: 90% of AoS Commenters at October 14, 2013 12:42 PM (PRPp1)

360 351 10% of AoS Commenters at October 14, 2013 04:42 PM (PRPp1)

With a really nice suspension lift.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:43 PM (9jfyN)

361 All this talk of rules in a post-Constitutional era is hilarious.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 14, 2013 12:43 PM (l5zzX)

362 The Dems are now fighting the Sequester again. They've moved on from JUST wanting a clean-CR to pass. They want the sequester repealed. So much for IT'S THE LAW OF THE LAND!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 12:43 PM (DmNpO)

363

Ummm...we've been here before, folks - back in 2011:

http://is.gd/oCeolk

It took 2 MONTHS for the President to even acknowledge that there was a problem. So, yeah - we can crash through the debt ceiling just fine; all Barky wants is a reason to create yet another crisis.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at October 14, 2013 12:43 PM (PZ6/M)

364 "Your move Senator Cruz" ======================== We're saved!!

Posted by: MTF at October 14, 2013 12:43 PM (5TH5k)

365

Skoomchuk, excellent comment! The Japanese reps on the deck of the Missouri were, if you look at the photos, the perfect embodiment of the situation - utterly outclassed in power by the men and 16-inch guns around them, defeated, yet dignified and sophisticated - really the actual situation WRT the US vs. Japan at that moment.

Posted by: non-purist at October 14, 2013 12:44 PM (afQnV)

366 You know all those oaths that elected officials take, to ". . . preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States . . . " ??

Just what happens to said officials when they betray their oath?

And who enforces that happening?

Posted by: Sphynx at October 14, 2013 04:37 PM (OZmbA)

In answer to your questions:

1) Evidently, nothing.

2) Apparently, nobody.

Posted by: antisocialist at October 14, 2013 12:44 PM (eGr8Z)

367

EBT 'folks gonna be singing the Katrina 'Halp Us' song F'n tools that they are..

Posted by: Regular Guy at October 14, 2013 12:44 PM (N3Al8)

368 SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS! That's latin for stay out of Thailand.

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker, Friend Of Farmer Yoon,Wears Prada at October 14, 2013 12:44 PM (GxM1n)

369 It's Y2K all over again.......

Because a bunch of smart folk were well paid to fix a solvable problem.

Reposted for morons who still don't get its completely the opposite in every word of the sentence.

Posted by: DaveA at October 14, 2013 12:44 PM (DL2i+)

370

zzz
zzz
zzz

oh. hey, is it time for the first debate yet... I know I can clobber McCain and win the nomination

Posted by: Fred Thompson at October 14, 2013 12:44 PM (Pr6hk)

371 I'm really a getting tired of the whining, from the peanut gallery, every time Gabe posts something catty. Each cob has their own quirks and grates on readers in different ways. But those of you annoyed by Gabe, more than any other cob, get your vaginas packed with sand anytime Gabe plays a sassy bitch. You're the same ones screaming anytime Ace expresses mild approval of some sliver of modern pop culture. Get over it, or go back to HotGas.

Posted by: wooga at October 14, 2013 12:44 PM (n2DnG)

372 My anus itches today.. hmm Gabe darling... call me

Posted by: Ana Cox at October 14, 2013 12:44 PM (/jHWN)

373 But,but the sequester is the "law of the land" just like the ACA??

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2013 12:44 PM (9XBK2)

374 I like Thai food.

Posted by: 40% of the Population at October 14, 2013 12:45 PM (PRPp1)

375 357 Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 04:42 PM (bb5+k)

I think Gabe's primary problem is that he has fallen into a bad crowd. (Washington area lawyers.)

Herd mentality is a powerful psychological force. Hard to fight against it when you have to associate with people.

Could be....

of course I do not tend to hang out with the Dillinger Gang and give sermons in Sunday School...

friends are a better indicator of character along with enemies than family....

you choose your friends and to a degree your enemies...

family is what it is.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:45 PM (9jfyN)

376 Queeq was fiction. Arnheiter was real life. DER USS Vance departed Pearl to operate off the Vietnam coast as part of Market Time. Before departure, Arnheiter used the crew MWR fund to buy a speedboat. While transiting the Pacific, suffered an engineering casualty and filed a false report on down time. Then off the coast of Vietnam would use that speedboat to troll for enemy gunfire just so Arnheiter could 'respond to being attacked' by having USS Vance open fire.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2013 12:45 PM (uj8Oa)

377

359 "Funny thing is that working people will be the last to be effected from a total Gov collapse. EBT clients not so much..Tee Hee"

When the EBT gets shut off, your only choice is to hunker down and shoot anything that comes on your property.

We've come too far down that road to ever turn off the taps.

Posted by: jwest at October 14, 2013 12:45 PM (u2a4R)

378 The alternate headline is not amusing. Go to work for McShame or Joe "RINO" Scarborough to get your little digs in. RICO all banksters, IRS, DOJ, WH bureaucrats and fire the "just following orders" park rangers and their political hoars.

Posted by: Tortuga at October 14, 2013 12:46 PM (FmyWU)

379 We are already at the debt ceiling. We have used it all up. But every day debt matures and new debt can be issued to replace it. It is always turning over.

A default will only happen if the Secretary of the Treasury chooses to not make an interest payment.

There is not a hard and fast deadline as far as time goes. Given that our expenditures exceed our revenues there will come a time when we cannot pay a bill on time. That is not good but not a default in a credit rating sense. That requires a failure to make an interest payment or a principal payment on time.

However, with a continuing deficit, we do need to increase the debt ceiling to avoid an eventual default. But it would take incredibly poor cash management for the default to happen at midnight the 17th.

0bama could cause it to happen to increase pain but I am not sure that he has the balls to do that.

Posted by: Bill at October 14, 2013 12:46 PM (epPn/)

380 But,but the sequester is the "law of the land" just like the ACA??

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2013 04:44 PM (9XBK2)

Yep. Just like all those immigration laws that Obammy and his buddies choose not to enforce.

Posted by: antisocialist at October 14, 2013 12:46 PM (eGr8Z)

381 It could be worse. He could have said your move speaker bohener

Posted by: SH at October 14, 2013 12:46 PM (RM1gx)

382 I need a drink Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2013 04:40 PM (UbDLm) Just the one?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 14, 2013 12:46 PM (VtjlW)

383 >>> You know all those oaths that elected officials take, to ". . . preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States . . . " ?? Just what happens to said officials when they betray their oath? And who enforces that happening? ... Q1: They get invited to swanky dinner parties, appointed to special committees, and do lots of talk shows Q2: Well.... Congresscritters used to be answerable to the people, who would recall them or otherwise vote them out of office. Then the people discovered "free shit" and Congresscritters learned that they could go to more dinner parties and live like kings for life if they promised free shit. No need to deliver and that only occupies a couple of months every 2- 6 years.

Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at October 14, 2013 12:47 PM (j0wOO)

384

wooga - whuh? I just made a gentle comment pointing out 1) the errors in Gabe's info re Senate procedure, and 2) the illogic of his "catty" headline. It wasn't catty, it was illogical, sorta dumb, and revealing.

It's all about the tough love. If I were disseminating flawed info, and contradicting myself while trying to take a dig at someone far wiser and more able and interesting than myself, I'd surely hope others would intervene to help me. Wouldn't you?

Posted by: non-purist at October 14, 2013 12:47 PM (afQnV)

385 Do brownies and a bottle of sake go together?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2013 12:47 PM (uj8Oa)

386 Fuck it all. Let it burn.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at October 14, 2013 12:47 PM (ZETiK)

387 Perhaps the "Anacostia Deficits" would be better

Landover FailWhales

Posted by: DaveA at October 14, 2013 12:47 PM (DL2i+)

388 Just the tip good sir, that's all I can swallow at one time

Posted by: The Dude at October 14, 2013 12:47 PM (vJdyz)

389 When the Chaos begins I plan on powering my home mini nuclear reactor with one of Arafats used diapers and selling the excess electricity to my neighbors.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 14, 2013 12:47 PM (dvRYt)

390 378 359 When the EBT gets shut off, your only choice is to hunker down and shoot anything that comes on your property. We've come too far down that road to ever turn off the taps. Posted by: jwest at October 14, 2013 04:45 PM (u2a4R) It saddens me to say I completely agree with you.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at October 14, 2013 12:48 PM (HVff2)

391

A little to quite right now. The posturing is over and now it's time to deal.

This is were the GOP pulls their pants down and repeats "Yeeeoowww....thank you...sir, may I have another!"

Posted by: WisRich at October 14, 2013 12:48 PM (hdpay)

392 Why all the speculation? Gabe, have you fallen in with the DC lawyers or are you just trying to preserve the party?

Posted by: MJ at October 14, 2013 12:48 PM (PRPp1)

393
Now, now, Gabe is young and still has stars in his eyes. McCain and Graham come to mind.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 14, 2013 12:48 PM (OZmbA)

394 Do brownies and a bottle of sake go together? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2013 04:47 PM (uj8Oa) If they're my brownies, they go great with anything.

Posted by: CAC at October 14, 2013 12:48 PM (2OjVZ)

395 those Molle Ammo pouches are not gonna clamp themselves Sven...

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:48 PM (9jfyN)

396 And I just poured my first glass of wine. Maybe I'll have more to say when it's gone

Posted by: Spypeach at October 14, 2013 12:48 PM (10H0T)

397 Noooooo! Don't hit the debt ceiling! You'll see what's going on behind the curtain!

Posted by: The Wizard of Oz at October 14, 2013 12:48 PM (OJvfL)

398 I'm really a getting tired of the whining, from the peanut gallery, every time Gabe posts something catty. Your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: Vladimir Lenin [/i] at October 14, 2013 12:49 PM (U2UQk)

399 Fuck it all. Let it burn.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at October 14, 2013 04:47 PM (ZETiK)

I hear ya.

Who's ready for Smore's?

Posted by: antisocialist at October 14, 2013 12:49 PM (eGr8Z)

400 CAC, yes your brownies go with many things.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2013 12:49 PM (uj8Oa)

401 @ChadPergram Senate R Conf mtg scheduled for 2nite postponed until 11 am et Tues. Whip Cornyn wants "fuller attendance" & time to work out details.

@robertcostaNRO Boehner aide @michael_steel: Â“If the Senate comes to an agreement, we will review it with our Members.Â”

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 14, 2013 12:49 PM (YjDyJ)

402 348 At least he won't be pawing at me tonight looking for a trip on the tuna boat.

Wow. I never heard that one before

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2013 04:41 PM (UbDLm

Taking the skin boat to tuna towne is a Burgess Meredith quote reference to that Grumpy Old Men flick.

Posted by: Regular Guy at October 14, 2013 12:49 PM (N3Al8)

403 Gabe, Cruz went to Princeton and Harvard. He knows when to hold em and when to fold them. My guess, the Dukie, Paul, will be more of a problem. Cause he's a Devil. he he.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 14, 2013 12:49 PM (0FSuD)

404

Posted by: WisRich at October 14, 2013 04:48 PM (hdpay)

GOPers like it in the ass confirmed then

Posted by: The Dude at October 14, 2013 12:50 PM (vJdyz)

405 by the way....

fuck this shit...why is no one on the fucking hill pointing out that "by golly" we could you know pass a fucking budget?

Hell I would be THRILLED if I see just one more actual motherfucking budget passed in my lifetime.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:50 PM (9jfyN)

406 Now be careful about what you say about our little rino cob or you risk the ban hammer. It certainly isn't past aces bed time quite yet

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at October 14, 2013 12:50 PM (HVff2)

407 CAC, yes your brownies go with many things. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2013 04:49 PM (uj8Oa) Be sure to buy a Jack in the Box Late Night Munchie meal first. The breakfast sandwich one. The cheesy chicken is a nightmare.

Posted by: CAC at October 14, 2013 12:50 PM (2OjVZ)

408 209 I don't think there's anything wrong with Gabe's logic, but I don't exactly agree with it. He has a different opinion than most on the site, but at least he has a well thought out and reasoned argument. Well thought out and reasoned arguments get you what nowadays. Citing a bunch of rules for politicians. Where do you live? Phuck the imperialists. Get ready. Check the WalMart in Mansfield LA. The shit is coming when the Chinese drop the bomb on the US welfare net.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 14, 2013 12:51 PM (zg42c)

409 Just so you Northeastern fscks remember, we have our own power grid here in the Republic of Tejas

Posted by: I'm Rick Perry, bitch at October 14, 2013 12:51 PM (Pr6hk)

410 Non-purist, I was not responding to you. There is a common refrain, seen anytime Gabe posts something.. . And then adds his one little bit of sass to it... That Gabe is the worst cob and should be fired. As I said before: Well at first I didn't complain about Ace's tolerance, if not outright encouragement, for the indiscriminate murder of the homeless. And I put up with his regular advocacy of alcoholism and drug use. And I was even okay with his celebration of Dick Cheney sodomizing multiple sex-trafficking victims to death with a "live cougar for a condom." But lo, allowing Gabe to smugly post about the accuracy of Gabe's fruity legal predictions... Well that is just a bridge too far!

Posted by: wooga at October 14, 2013 12:51 PM (n2DnG)

411 fuck this shit...why is no one on the fucking hill pointing out that "by golly" we could you know pass a fucking budget?

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 04:50 PM (9jfyN)

not the hill to die on, sir

Posted by: The Dude at October 14, 2013 12:51 PM (vJdyz)

412 I need a drink Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2013 04:40 PM (UbDLm) Just the one? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 14, 2013 04:46 PM (VtjlW) a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2013 12:51 PM (UbDLm)

413 >>I'm really a getting tired of the whining, from the peanut gallery, every time Gabe posts something catty.
Posted by: wooga

I get tired of people defending Gabe's cattiness and constant conservative attacks.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 14, 2013 12:51 PM (9jLim)

414 @ChadPergram Senate R Conf mtg scheduled for 2nite postponed until 11 am et Tues. Whip Cornyn wants "fuller attendance" time to work out details. @robertcostaNRO Boehner aide @michael_steel: Â“If the Senate comes to an agreement, we will review it with our Members.Â” **** Robert Costa ‏@robertcostaNRO 3m I hear Sen leaders agreed to cancel WH mtg b/c they were making fast progress on Hill, wanted to focus on that process I'm frightened. Someone hold me.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 12:51 PM (DmNpO)

415 352 How is the most powerful man in Washington the junior senator from Texas in the out party?

Posted by: SH at October 14, 2013 04:42 PM (RM1gx)

************************

Shutup! He just IS! And he's ruining EVERYTHING!

Posted by: Warden at October 14, 2013 12:51 PM (bmp0d)

416 371

zzz
zzz
zzz

oh. hey, is it time for the first debate yet... I know I can clobber McCain and win the nomination

Posted by: Fred Thompson at October 14, 2013 04:44 PM (Pr6hk)

Derp! heh heh

Posted by: Regular Guy at October 14, 2013 12:52 PM (N3Al8)

417 The breakfast sandwich one. The cheesy chicken is a nightmare.

Posted by: CAC at October 14, 2013 04:50 PM (2OjVZ)

Do they still have the Sourdough Jack? because really...there is nothing better on earth.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2013 12:52 PM (/kU/5)

418 Hey the Dude and TPH, an anime figure made it to the IPMS Nationals this year. Though I think they got the eyes wrong.

http://www.ipmsusa3.org/gallery/v/events/2013NATS/FIGS/P1030612.jpg.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2013 12:52 PM (uj8Oa)

419 SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS! That's latin for stay out of Thailand. --- I think it's a line from a Dino-porn flick. The heroine shouts it as a T-Rex is going at her doggy style.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 14, 2013 12:53 PM (PjgvN)

420 If they're my brownies, they go great with anything. You say that now, then suddenly you look up into the night sky and realize the Andromeda Galaxy is bearing down on you at 190 miles per second. Or else you realize the blue shift is from too many of Bob Doles pills.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 14, 2013 12:53 PM (U2UQk)

421 Be sure to buy a Jack in the Box Late Night Munchie meal first.after you've been out looking at the stars with your bong/telescope The breakfast sandwich one. The cheesy chicken is a nightmare. Posted by: CAC at October 14, 2013 04:50 PM (2OjVZ) FIFY.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 14, 2013 12:53 PM (0FSuD)

422 362 All this talk of rules in a post-Constitutional era is hilarious. Posted by: Purp at October 14, 2013 04:43 PM (l5zzX) The most succinct rebuttal to Gabe's point.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 12:53 PM (bb5+k)

423 0bama could cause it to happen to increase pain but I am not sure that he has the balls to do that.

Posted by: Bill at October 14, 2013 04:46 PM (epPn/)

---------------------------------------

Perhaps not. But Valerie would.

Posted by: Soona at October 14, 2013 12:53 PM (3Mz5/)

424

I still think that, with the Debt Pit as deep as it is, we could start pushing for the wholesale elimination of federal departments.

And on that note, I gotta go do stuff and then start drinking.

Heavily. Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 14, 2013 12:53 PM (0HooB)

425

AtC, get the cloth back out

http://tinyurl.com/kd5grpq

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 14, 2013 12:54 PM (nooa6)

426 First Rule of Chaos Town - Survival.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2013 12:54 PM (uj8Oa)

427
You know, I do a damn lot of 'refresh' on these comment pages. Webserver must take a big hit when there are 400 some odd comments.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 14, 2013 12:54 PM (OZmbA)

428 There's a whole load of yellow-bellied pols in DC that need a slappin'

Posted by: George S. Patton at October 14, 2013 12:54 PM (Pr6hk)

429 Gabe, The Most Polarizing Man On The Site "I don't always launch passive aggressive attacks, but when I do, I prefer a large audience."

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 14, 2013 12:54 PM (ZshNr)

430 Why does a line from the movie Idiocracy keep going through my mind? 'Something something something, something something all retarded', something like that.

Well, I guess it's better than not being able to get the Oscar Mayer Wiener song out of your head......

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at October 14, 2013 12:55 PM (DLu2s)

431

Wait, wait, wait. I'm confused about the objection to the alternate headline, which I thought was amusing.

======================

Wait, wait, wait! I'm confused about whether Gabe truly intends for the surrender caucus to unify behind whatever position Senator Cruz decides is best in the negotiation with the Searchlight Strangler and SCOAMF. Could it be Gabe has seen the light, or is he still frantically looking for a way to seize defeat from the jaws of victory?

Posted by: MTF at October 14, 2013 12:55 PM (B5y+v)

432 Good news. Looks like we are about to get screwed. I've enjoyed the government "shutdown" and was looking forward to the government " default". Looks like both are coming to an end. Indeed it is your move mr Cruz. Here's hoping you keep making enemies.

Posted by: SH at October 14, 2013 12:55 PM (RM1gx)

433

wooga, point taken and I am not one for flame wars vs. bloggers or commenters in general, and I certainly would never tell Ace to "fire" anyone, really. Figure that (as many have said) lots of readers (just as with other sites, or with "media" outlets, etc.) just pick and choose whose stuff they will even read, based on experience.

Oh - and I'm not criticizing those with the opposite approach - I find lots of the humor and wit amusing, even if the substance sometimes is stretched or flawed.

But this post just seemed pretty silly - in error on the core substance, and with a snarky non-sequitir tossed in. I only read it at all because the bit about there being now way to pass an extension 'afore next week struck my dusty but substantial Senate procedural memory banks as plain wrong.

Posted by: non-purist at October 14, 2013 12:55 PM (afQnV)

434 423 Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 04:53 PM (bb5+k)

The most succinct rebuttal to Gabe's point.

Purp gets it...here's the deal for those who don't love gathering belly button lint...

we will NEVER pass another real budget until the dollar collapses...

Donkey knows the American people will look at the tax base needed for THIS THIS is "paradise..."

those cocksuckers have devalued the USD by about 80% in the last 15 years and it is not enough....

because the democrats are a graft machine, not "welfare"...

and the GOP are mewling quims not people who defend free markets.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:56 PM (9jfyN)

435 Posted by: Lincolntf

How dare you attack Gabe's nonsensical and hypocritical rantings.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 14, 2013 12:56 PM (9jLim)

436 Comments 372 and 373

Its why I'm a member since 2009!

Lolz.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 14, 2013 12:56 PM (wmU4G)

437 406 fuck this shit...why is no one on the fucking hill pointing out that "by golly" we could you know pass a fucking budget?

One item reportedly included in this tentative deal is a budget conference committee.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 14, 2013 12:56 PM (YjDyJ)

438 Oh, and Gabe's take on the rules is totally correct. Like it or not, the Senate rules are not designed for speed, just the opposite, they are designed to slow shit down that the House might throw at them. Don't fuck with the messenger.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 14, 2013 12:56 PM (0FSuD)

439 Does Cruz control the Senate now? Hey Gabe, there would have been plenty of time to deal the debt issue if the Senate (read: Harry Reid) had taken up any number of the billS, with a capital 'S', sent by the House to handle the funding issue. Seems to be a Harry Reid issue and not a Ted Cruz issue.

Posted by: dogfish at October 14, 2013 12:56 PM (nsOJa)

440 AtC, get the cloth back out http://tinyurl.com/kd5grpq Posted by: navycopjoe at October 14, 2013 04:54 PM (nooa6) Oh FML, I want a new gaming laptop (I know, I know, I said I'm only going console but that might be an alternate truth) and those are right at my budget limit. Must. Not. Buy. Laptop.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at October 14, 2013 12:56 PM (VtjlW)

441 C'mon Gabe, you're obviously reading the comments and I think it would be instructive to tell everyone what your position is. From your previous posts I see that you don't agree with the defund tactics, but we're not even talking about that now. How is this coming back to Cruz? I just don't understand. What's up?

Posted by: MJ at October 14, 2013 12:56 PM (PRPp1)

442

I really don't think the country would collapse if, in the unlikely event there is a deal (I don't think there is or will be for some time), it were a few days late.

Did the House pass the 6 week debt limit extension? That's always an option if people really are concerned about TEH HORRIBLE BURNINGZ. If people (Democrats) don't want to pass that, then obviously this isn't that serious a catastrophe.

Democrats want to see what is on the other side of the debt ceiling hit. I'm kind of curious myself. I don't think the result will be instantaneous ruin, and neither do they, obviously.

And if it is so ruinous to hit the debt ceiling, why do we have one? If it is such a threat to the United States it should be eliminated in favor of Unicorn Skittles or whatever the hell else it is 'political realists' want these days.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 14, 2013 12:57 PM (TpXEI)

443

Alternate Headline: "Your Move, Mr. Cruz."

why is it Ted Cruz's move?

what did he have to do with creating these conditions?

sorry the Establishment has fucked up so bad, but don't try to blame it all on the only people really trying to fix it.

Posted by: Shoey at October 14, 2013 12:57 PM (jdOk/)

444 407 Now be careful about what you say about our little rino cob or you risk the ban hammer. It certainly isn't past aces bed time quite yet
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at October 14, 2013 04:50 PM (HVff2)

Just a reminder - Ace doesn't cotton to the abuse of cobloggers. And it's not like he hasn't issued warnings about this before.

If you don't like something posted on the blog, just use the magical Page Down button to make it go away.

Posted by: Mætenloch at October 14, 2013 12:57 PM (pAlYe)

445 Come Friday the 18th of October.... Vlad Putin beyond Thunderdome!!!!

Posted by: William Eaton at October 14, 2013 12:57 PM (rLRIj)

446

Posted by: wooga at October 14, 2013 04:51 PM (n2DnG)

You're comparing ace's obvious over the top snark for humor's sake to Gabe's repeated direct personal shots at the majority of commentors based on his positions that are more common on HuffPost?

Posted by: polynikes at October 14, 2013 12:58 PM (m2CN7)

447 336

I have found the one group I am willing to fight

The citizens of the United States

Posted by: Captain Kick-Ass at October 14, 2013 04:39 PM (Pr6hk)

******************

and those who are willing to die for them. The long arm of the Obama Brown Shirts aka NPS places gates at Flight 93 Memorial.http://tinyurl.com/ku9nwku

Posted by: gracepmc at October 14, 2013 12:58 PM (rznx3)

448 438 Miss80sBaby at October 14, 2013 04:56 PM (YjDyJ)

One item reportedly included in this tentative deal is a budget conference committee.

Which will take five years to even agree on what a budget is...

we screwed the pooch back under Bush in not letting Hairy Reid ram the boat on the shore and taking the hit....

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:58 PM (9jfyN)

449 Worldwide collapse a coming people then no more vodka chi chi's

Posted by: O'Bama frilly lizard with detachable tail O'Bama at October 14, 2013 12:58 PM (N3Al8)

450 Remember when Ted Cruz promised his constituents $100 billion in budget cuts, then secretly negotiated a deal with Obama that cut nothing? What a dick!

Posted by: Warden at October 14, 2013 12:58 PM (bmp0d)

451

The massive debt this nation has racked up over the past few decades is killing us, so the party who solves the problem will become the hero.

If this were a family facing these financial problems, the best resolution would be for the responsible adult to take control of the checkbook and to place the family on a sustainable budget.

That's all well and good, but to be the hero, that same responsible adult should be the one that goes out to the barn and finds the priceless antique that grandpa bought for pennies when he was a boy.

Pay off all the debt, buy some infrastructure, retire all the student loans, mortgage debt and credit cards in one massive transaction by selling off a real (or imagined) national asset.

Reset the global economy and ride the hero wave for the next century.

Posted by: jwest at October 14, 2013 12:58 PM (u2a4R)

452 445 MÃ¦tenloch at October 14, 2013 04:57 PM (pAlYe)

Indeed....

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 12:59 PM (9jfyN)

453
Brawndo. It's got electrolytes!

Posted by: LIVs at October 14, 2013 12:59 PM (OZmbA)

454 "By ROGER SIMON | 10/14/13 2:47 PM EDT

Question: If Ted Cruz and John Boehner were both on a sinking ship, who would be saved?

Answer: America."

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 14, 2013 12:59 PM (xbjUC)

455

Quite simply, there isn't enough time for the Senate to consider a bill before the Thursday deadline . . .

____

Why else do you figure Teh One would have Henry Reid plan the meeting this afternoon.

Posted by: socalcon at October 14, 2013 12:59 PM (vHlQ5)

456 Posted by: wooga at October 14, 2013 04:51 PM (n2DnG) At the beginning of the post, it says "Gabriel Malor". If you don't like it, skip it. He does what he does. You don't like what he does. Change the channel. I do, for the most part.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 14, 2013 01:00 PM (T0NGe)

457 I'm so old I remember when Gabe wanted to fight over the debt ceiling and not the CR because "we have more leverage" with the debt ceiling. Ummm, if the other side knows you're not willing to shoot the hostage, you don't have any leverage at all. But it was precious.

Posted by: Andy at October 14, 2013 01:00 PM (0ZQCB)

458 New Tea Party leader Vlad Putin

Posted by: Regular Guy at October 14, 2013 01:00 PM (N3Al8)

459
Wheresmah disability check?

Posted by: LIVs at October 14, 2013 01:00 PM (OZmbA)

460

A budget committee again? I remember the last time we did that, way back in August 2011. That worked out incredibly well.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 14, 2013 01:00 PM (TpXEI)

461 why is it Ted Cruz's move?

what did he have to do with creating these conditions?
***********************************

Don't you know? Ted Cruz ran up all that debt, not the Democrats and Establishment Republicans.

And it was Ted Cruz who just meekly allowed the Democrats to operate without a budget so they could bake Obama's stimulus into the cake in perpetuity without having to answer for it.

Ted Cruz!!!

Posted by: Warden at October 14, 2013 01:01 PM (bmp0d)

462 Untwist your frilly pink panties, Gabe. There's more than enough revenue to cover debt service, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, & national defense.

Posted by: OhioCoastie at October 14, 2013 01:01 PM (9m3Zl)

463 Can't we just call one of the those debt consolidation companies that advertises on the radio every 20 minutes. Let's try to get France and England on board. We'll get a sweet deal.

Posted by: MJ at October 14, 2013 01:01 PM (PRPp1)

464 Thank God, a Committee! We're saved!

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 14, 2013 01:01 PM (ZshNr)

465 For the love of all that is holy. what is this? #onbenefitsandproud

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 01:01 PM (DmNpO)

466 69 Ramming speed!
Posted by: wooga at October 14, 2013 04:06 PM (n2DnG)
Row well and live, forty-one.

Posted by: Quintus Arrius at October 14, 2013 01:01 PM (v1Ckr)

467 Just a reminder - Ace doesn't cotton to the abuse of cobloggers. And it's not like he hasn't issued warnings about this before.

If you don't like something posted on the blog, just use the magical Page Down button to make it go away.

Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at October 14, 2013 04:57 PM (pAlYe)

Amen, good sir.

If you don't like what you're reading...don't read it.

Posted by: antisocialist at October 14, 2013 01:01 PM (eGr8Z)

468 Get ready. Check the WalMart in Mansfield LA. The shit is coming when the Chinese drop the bomb on the US welfare net. --- It was more widespread than that. Mansfield, Springhill, Plaquemine, and Donaldsonville, LA, all had the same thing. Philadelphia, MS, had a riot at a grocery store over turned-off EBT cards.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 14, 2013 01:01 PM (/Crba)

469

You forgot step (2a) where everyone reads the Bill.

Oh, ha-ha I crack myself up.

Posted by: wth at October 14, 2013 01:01 PM (wAQA5)

470 But we gotta give these guys e'rrything because, tea party.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 14, 2013 01:01 PM (xbjUC)

471 458 Andy at October 14, 2013 05:00 PM (0ZQCB)

I'm so old I remember when Gabe wanted to fight over the debt ceiling and not the CR because "we have more leverage" with the debt ceiling.

Ummm, if the other side knows you're not willing to shoot the hostage, you don't have any leverage at all.

But it was precious.

Hey man that was written like 100 hours or so ago...tha's old skoo...we new skoo

//Dede "Catfish" Jenital

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 01:01 PM (9jfyN)

472
The Prezdent creates all the jobs.

Posted by: LIVs at October 14, 2013 01:02 PM (OZmbA)

473 Women would do a better job than men of solving the current government stalemate, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) said on Monday Â— because Â“a woman doesnÂ’t want to ruin the person on the other side of the aisle or the table.Â” Â“If we put all the women, Republican and Democrat, in the House together, the consensus from all of us is that we would get this done in a few hours,Â” Wasserman Schultz Â— the head of the Democratic National Committee Â— told MSNBCÂ’s Â“Morning Joe.Â” Memo to florida scrunt: Ignorant shit like that is right up there with Blacks can't be racist. Shove it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2013 01:02 PM (UbDLm)

474

The Presidents Memoirs

BHO

WHAAAAAAAAAAAA

The trials of being the second Black President

Posted by: Omally's Grill at October 14, 2013 01:02 PM (3GuQx)

475 You know what I find am musing? Gabe has taken the time to figure out the time left to do the deal. Anyone else seen ANYWHERE in the MSM ANY analysis of this? None. Trust me the MSM will steal Gabe's post and it will be printed as their new research.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 14, 2013 01:02 PM (0FSuD)

476 So, what exactly is money? I get paid for my time, so money is a representation of my time gone by -- time that I can not get back.

Since we are mortal it can only be true that continuing spiraling upward debt is a form of slavery. CJ Roberts 'tax is the only true god' finding in the Obamacare case reaffirms that only welfare takers are immune to money poorly spent.

Because of the false debt ceiling, the slavery really hasn't hit me yet. Maybe it will never actually hit me. But it sure seems likely that it will hit someone, sometime, because as a nation we are like junkies -- we just can't stop ourselves.

When we can no longer put off the inevitable, either the money I traded my life to get will become worthless, or it will be confiscated to pay the debt. Either way, my life was traded away in D.C. and not by my choice.

Ducky. Just ducky.

Posted by: jc at October 14, 2013 01:03 PM (i8c5b)

477

Â“If we put all the women, Republican and Democrat, in the House together, the consensus from all of us is that we would get this done in a few hours,Â” Wasserman Schultz Â— the head of the Democratic National Committee Â— told MSNBCÂ’s Â“Morning Joe.Â”

Carly Fiorina approves.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 14, 2013 01:03 PM (TpXEI)

478 Remember how Ted Cruz voted Obamacare out of committee? Man, that guy really has helped fuck up America, huh?

Posted by: Warden at October 14, 2013 01:03 PM (bmp0d)

479 Updated [4:35]: Wait, wait, wait. I'm confused about the objection to the alternate headline, which I thought was amusing. Do you think that Sen. Cruz would agree to waive the rules to allow quick passage of the deal we're hearing rumors about? It'd sure surprise me. --- Gabe, you obviously misread your audience completely. We might have taken that joke from Ace or a few of the other cobloggers because we know they're joking. From you, though? It either shows a tin ear at best or blatantly giving us the finger at worst.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 14, 2013 01:03 PM (/Crba)

480

OMG

Five thoughts on the Obamacare disaster
In the weeks leading up to the launch I heard some very ugly things about how the system was performing when transferring data to insurers Â— a necessary step if people are actually going to get insurance. I tried hard to pin the rumors down, but I could never quite nail the story, and there was a wall of official denials from the Obama administration. It was just testing, they said. They were fixing the bugs day by day.
According to Bob Laszlewski, those problems arenÂ’t resolved. TheyÂ’re just not getting much attention because the health-care lawÂ’s Web sites arenÂ’t working well enough for people to get that far in the process.

When youÂ’ve lost Ezra Klein, DCÂ’s boy-version of Â“Chatty CathyÂ”, there is no defense.

Posted by: Jeffrey Dahmer at October 14, 2013 01:03 PM (e8kgV)

481 The long arm of the Obama Brown Shirts aka NPS places gates at Flight 93 Memorial.http://tinyurl.com/ku9nwku

Posted by: gracepmc at October 14, 2013 04:58 PM (rznx3)

Oh, good. Blood just shot out of my eyes all over my keyboard.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 01:03 PM (lVPtV)

482 Women would do a better job than men of solving the current government stalemate, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) said on Monday Â— because Â“a woman doesnÂ’t want to ruin the person on the other side of the aisle or the table.Â” Â“If we put all the women, Republican and Democrat, in the House together, the consensus from all of us is that we would get this done in a few hours,Â” Wasserman Schultz Â— the head of the Democratic National Committee Â— told MSNBCÂ’s Â“Morning Joe.Â” *** Right. Nancy Pelosi's legendary arm-twisting not withstanding.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 01:03 PM (DmNpO)

483
Can I writecha a check until I git my EBT money?

Posted by: LIVs at October 14, 2013 01:04 PM (OZmbA)

484 Remember how Ted Cruz voted Obamacare out of committee? Man, that guy really has helped fuck up America, huh? *** I'll never forgive him for Cash for Clunkers.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 01:04 PM (DmNpO)

485 Right. Nancy Pelosi's legendary arm-twisting not withstanding. --- Has a male Speaker ever blatantly rammed such a comprehensive piece of legislation down the people's throat by saying "You have to vote on it to see what's in it!"?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 14, 2013 01:04 PM (/Crba)

486 You miss an obvious possibility: Obama simply waives the debt limit via an executive order, citing his powers as CinC. He can do this not because it's legal but because he can do it and Congress won't do squat.

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at October 14, 2013 01:04 PM (lILC0)

487 If you don't like it, skip it. He does what he does. You don't like what he does. Change the channel. I do, for the most part.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 14, 2013 05:00 PM (T0NGe)

Problem is I bet you wouldn't change the literal TV Channel if you had a way you could comment. Its hard to walk away when you are taunted or someone offers their opinion to you that you totally disagree with.

Posted by: polynikes at October 14, 2013 01:04 PM (m2CN7)

488 If you don't agree with something a co-blogger writes, tough shit. Keep it in your pants and move on, this place ain't for debating.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 14, 2013 01:04 PM (9jLim)

489 let's get it on

Posted by: tully sempronicus at October 14, 2013 01:05 PM (lB/5N)

490 Pay off all the debt, buy some infrastructure, retire all the student loans, mortgage debt and credit cards in one massive transaction by selling off a real (or imagined) national asset.

Reset the global economy and ride the hero wave for the next century.

Posted by: jwest at October 14, 2013 04:58 PM (u2a4R)

Natural gas. Obama gets reelected to a third term.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 14, 2013 01:05 PM (DHQv9)

491 449 438 Which will take five years to even agree on what a budget is...

If you want a budget, you have to convene a budget conference committee. At least in this era, anyway.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 14, 2013 01:05 PM (YjDyJ)

492 Â“If we put all the women, Republican and Democrat, in the House together, the consensus from all of us is that we would get this done in a few hours,Â” Wasserman Schultz Â— the head of the Democratic National Committee Â— told MSNBCÂ’s Â“Morning Joe.Â” --------------------- Um, if you put two women in an 8 x 10 room for 2 hours one will be dead.

Posted by: MJ at October 14, 2013 01:05 PM (PRPp1)

493 I would purposely go past the deadline a few days just to call Obama's bluff. He's not going to stop payments on our debt, not only would that violate the Constitution it would crater markets on his watch.

There's plenty of money coming in to cover our debt payments.

Posted by: McAdams at October 14, 2013 01:05 PM (KJqz6)

494 Can I writecha a check until I git my EBT money? Posted by: LIVs at October 14, 2013 05:04 PM (OZmbA) "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2013 01:05 PM (UbDLm)

495 485 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 05:04 PM (DmNpO)

I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for his "overcharge" button he thought said "reset"....

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 01:06 PM (9jfyN)

496

Philadelphia, MS, had a riot at a grocery store over turned-off EBT cards.

Perhaps the smart stores are the ones which DON'T accept EBT cards.

And it WILL come to that - just like doctors' offices today which don't accept Medicaid or Medicare patients.

Better to never let the scorpion on your back.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at October 14, 2013 01:06 PM (PZ6/M)

497
The govermint outta give us cable TV for free. They got enough of it, with C-span and all.

Posted by: LIVs at October 14, 2013 01:06 PM (OZmbA)

498 uh...notwithstanding

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 01:06 PM (DmNpO)

499 Pay off all the debt, buy some infrastructure, retire all the student loans, mortgage debt and credit cards in one massive transaction by selling off a real (or imagined) national asset.

Reset the global economy and ride the hero wave for the next century.

Posted by: jwest at October 14, 2013 04:58 PM (u2a4R)

-------------------------------------------------

So you're saying we should sell CA to the Chicoms. Okay! I'm in.

Posted by: Soona at October 14, 2013 01:06 PM (3Mz5/)

500 Remember when Ted Cruz allowed the Democrats and early Christmas Eve vote on Obamacare so they could get home in time for egg nog after fucking America in the ass?

What a spineless, cowardly shit, huh?

Posted by: Warden at October 14, 2013 01:06 PM (bmp0d)

501 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for his "overcharge" button he thought said "reset".... *** I'm sensing material for a new hashtag #IWillNeverForgiveTedCruzFor

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 01:07 PM (DmNpO)

502 >>>...his positions that are more common on HuffPost?

Posted by: polynikes at October 14, 2013 04:58 PM (m2CN7)

No matter how much you might hate it, the conservative movement is not 100% lined up behind the Banzai Charge brigade.

Posted by: Paul at October 14, 2013 01:07 PM (JM48I)

503 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for allowing four Americans to die at Benghazi.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 01:07 PM (lVPtV)

504 Just a reminder - Ace doesn't cotton to the abuse of cobloggers. And it's not like he hasn't issued warnings about this before. Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at October 14, 2013 04:57 PM (pAlYe) Dumb question. Do any of the OTHER cobs get abused? I can't say I recall seeing it. My recollection is that everyone gets along well with them.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 01:07 PM (bb5+k)

505

The govt is still on slowdown.

Good. The longer the better.

Debt ceiling?

There is enough revenue to pay the debt and and all ongoing welfare state payments and the military. Even if there weren't, the debtholders would fall all over themselves giving us a temporary extention.

This is really a too big to fail situation.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 14, 2013 01:07 PM (1Y+hH)

506 this place ain't for debating.

Posted by: Dr Spank

( golf clap )

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 14, 2013 01:07 PM (xbjUC)

507 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for Fast and Furious.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 01:07 PM (lVPtV)

508 489 If you don't agree with something a co-blogger writes, tough shit. Keep it in your pants and move on, this place ain't for debating.
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 14, 2013 05:04 PM (9jLim)

Wrong and you know it. There's debating and then there's personal abuse.

Posted by: Mætenloch at October 14, 2013 01:08 PM (pAlYe)

509 492 Miss80sBaby at October 14, 2013 05:05 PM (YjDyJ)

Ideally the GOP should take great joy in on the record shitcanning Ogabe's Candyland Budget Proposals...

fact is we had a budget committee back in 2011....

we did not get a new budget donkey does not want the marks back at home knowing how over the top farcical spending has gotten....

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 01:08 PM (9jfyN)

510
Hey, Peter, you know what I'd do if I had a million dollars?

Two chick at the same time, man. That's what I'd do.

Posted by: Lawrence at October 14, 2013 01:08 PM (OZmbA)

511 So you're saying we should sell CA to the Chicoms. Okay! I'm in. --- They'll be enclosing it to turn it into the world's largest indoor mall. When asked for comment, the JEF proclaimed "At least we're not selling it to the f*cking Japanese."

Posted by: Margaret Lawhon, WBRZ News 2 at October 14, 2013 01:08 PM (/Crba)

512

I don't know but what would happen is there was a complete tax revolt? Just askin. Who holds the power then bishe's ? But that would take cahones Nevermind

Posted by: Moderate Conservative at October 14, 2013 01:08 PM (N3Al8)

513 So you're saying we should sell CA to the Chicoms. Okay! I'm in.

Posted by: Soona at October 14, 2013 05:06 PM (3Mz5/)

Yeah, but they gotta take it with them.

Posted by: antisocialist at October 14, 2013 01:08 PM (eGr8Z)

514

Miss Me Yet???

Posted by: James from Plains at October 14, 2013 01:08 PM (Pr6hk)

515 Remember how Ted Cruz insulted and fucked over the very people who voted for him in his presidential race against Obama? Remember that? How he lied about amnesty?

Posted by: Warden at October 14, 2013 01:08 PM (bmp0d)

516 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for the vote that got Ocare out of the senate committee.

Posted by: Soona at October 14, 2013 01:09 PM (3Mz5/)

517 Any prediction that BHO makes about X happening unless BigGovernment!, well, it lacks all credibility. Reminders: BHO stated in 2009 that unless the $878 Billion Stimulus was passed, that unemployment would go above 8%! Serious. You. Guys. Because: BigGovernment is Super Essential! [Unemployment went there, and stayed there.] He also stated that unless the Sequester didn't trigger, that all sorts of Bad. Things. Will. Happen. Without. BigGoverment. [But it didn't, of course.] Reality meets Salt Shaker.

Posted by: The Rememberer-in-Chief at October 14, 2013 01:09 PM (l5fCd)

518 508 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for Fast and Furious. Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 05:07 PM (lVPtV) Especially after he sold the gun to Zimmerman.

Posted by: jwb7605[/i][/u][/b] at October 14, 2013 01:09 PM (Qxe/p)

519

Posted by: Lawrence at October 14, 2013 05:08 PM (OZmbA)

don't need a million for that, just an eightball and then another eightball after you run out of the first one

Posted by: The Dude at October 14, 2013 01:09 PM (vJdyz)

520 515

Miss Me Yet???

Posted by: James from Plains at October 14, 2013 05:08 PM (Pr6hk)

Only the long lines for gas and your brother's sucky beer.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 01:09 PM (lVPtV)

521 I meant to type "Of course it's NOT snark....."

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 14, 2013 01:09 PM (bCEmE)

522 They don't need the cash until November 1st, this is moot. The actual debt ceiling could be raised that morning, the Treasury could roll out a bunch of accounting tricks for a week or two, and Jack Lew could prioritize some payments.

If Obama would get his fascist foot off of the economy's neck, he might have some more tax dollars to play with.

Posted by: Jean at October 14, 2013 01:09 PM (CMlD4)

523 Didn't we hit the debt ceiling a few years ago and Treasury just hand waved it away with book keeping tricks or something? Just let them do that shit again, it's all a charade anyway.

Posted by: mugiwara at October 14, 2013 01:09 PM (hpYnL)

524

I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for delaying and intimidating those Tea Party IRS applications

Posted by: Lois Lerner at October 14, 2013 01:10 PM (Pr6hk)

525 Just a reminder - Ace doesn't cotton to the abuse of cobloggers. And it's not like he hasn't issued warnings about this before. --- If Ace has a problem with what I said, he can talk to me. I generally direct my vitriol at those on the Left that deserve it, plus Juan McSame and Miss Lindsay. As far as I know, this is the first time I've done so at Gabe and it's because he decided to get cute after he posted the article, putting a comment up that he should have known would piss people off.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 14, 2013 01:10 PM (/Crba)

526 Amen, good sir.If you don't like what you're reading...don't read it. Posted by: antisocialist at October 14, 2013 05:01 PM (eGr8Z) Not good logic. I don't like people being murdered in the street. Should I stand by idly ? It is our duty to object to ideas with which we disagree.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 01:10 PM (bb5+k)

527 his positions that are more common on HuffPost? Posted by: polynikes at October 14, 2013 04:58 PM (m2CN7)No matter how much you might hate it, the conservative movement is not 100% lined up behind the Banzai Charge brigade.

Posted by: Paul at October 14, 2013 05:07 PM (JM48I)

You give yourself away by characterizing it as a Banzai Charge. REMF.

Posted by: polynikes at October 14, 2013 01:10 PM (m2CN7)

528

"Natural gas. Obama gets reelected to a third term"

Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 14, 2013 05:05 PM (DHQv9)

There was a report out some months ago that there is 72 trillion dollars worth of oil shale under federal land in the upper Midwest.

Create a phony-baloney quasi-government corporation (ala Freddy Mac) that would act as a holding company for those assets while monetizing them now. They could be chartered to sell the assets over the next few hundred years for the funds to exceed the 72 trillion we get upfront.

It all looks legit on a balance sheet.

Posted by: jwest at October 14, 2013 01:10 PM (u2a4R)

529

Yeah, but they gotta take it with them.

Posted by: antisocialist at October 14, 2013 05:08 PM (eGr8Z)

-------------------------------------

If the price is right, perhaps we could make and "arrangement".

Posted by: San Andreas Fault at October 14, 2013 01:11 PM (3Mz5/)

530 Ride on the tuna boat!! Oh my God! I almost wet myself laughing! Hahahaha!

Posted by: Jmel at October 14, 2013 01:11 PM (cfFqn)

531

Gabe wrote something besides "comments"?

Oh well, too late now.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 14, 2013 01:11 PM (1Y+hH)

532 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for killing Sharon Tate and her baby.

Posted by: Charlie Manson at October 14, 2013 01:11 PM (Pr6hk)

533 Let it burn. I'm a Raider fan and I have nothing to live for.

Posted by: Lucky Pierre at October 14, 2013 01:11 PM (5fSr7)

534 I would rather fight and lose, than be a towel boy for a socialist freak of a despot.

Stand and fight.

Posted by: prescient11 at October 14, 2013 04:15 PM (tVTLU)

I hear that.

Oh, and Gabe? That 'your move, Mr. Cruz' line of yours sticks in the craw. You don't like the guy, I get it, but Cruz is doing what we--Republican voters and right-leaning independents who tend to vote Republican--asked him to do, which is to stop playing go-along and get-along and fight these evil, slimy rat bastards.

And by the way, I write 'evil, slimy rat bastards' without hyperbole. Our biggest mistake in the last 10 years has been to view our political opponents as traditional Democrats, the Harry Truman kind of Democrats who opposed communism and loved our country and stood up for the little guy. Those Democrats are gone. Harry Truman is dead. Now standing in their place are those who Ace calls 'transnational socialists', which is as good a term as any for the authoritarian, neo-Marxist weasels now running our federal government.

Posted by: troyriser at October 14, 2013 01:11 PM (V9ol4)

535 Remember when Ted Cruz called the fiscally conservative wing of the Republican party a bunch of hobbits? What a divisive man! A true cancer upon conservatism.

Posted by: Warden at October 14, 2013 01:11 PM (bmp0d)

536 Wrong and you know it. There's debating and then there's personal abuse.
Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch

75% of all debates involve personal attacks, that's science.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 14, 2013 01:12 PM (9jLim)

537 534 Let it burn. I'm a Raider fan and I have nothing to live for. --- Could be worse. You could be a Jaguars fan or a Bucs fan.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 14, 2013 01:12 PM (/Crba)

538 Can't we just call one of the those debt consolidation companies that advertises on the radio every 20 minutes. ItÂ’s been a few years since I began talking about reverse mortgages, and since then have helped thousands of American homeowners convert the equity in their homes into money they can use right now. I know personally how a reverse mortgage can help a nation, maybe a nation like yours.

Posted by: Fred Thompson [/i] at October 14, 2013 01:12 PM (U2UQk)

539 Remember when Senator Cruz was elected to Speaker of the House?

Good times. Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 14, 2013 01:12 PM (xbjUC)

540 Who cares?

Fuck 'em.

They want to spend my money for their FSA.

Fuck 'em.

Let it burn--I don't give a tinker's dam about all the dire predictions.

Fuck 'em.

(I'm doing my taxes today--Fuck. All. This.)

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 14, 2013 01:12 PM (VjL9S)

541 Isn't it annoying how Ted Cruz is always cozying up to the media to attack the base? Man, someone needs to deal with this guy.

Posted by: Warden at October 14, 2013 01:12 PM (bmp0d)

542 I've heard of Blue Cross and Blue Shield.
But so far, looks like the only provider offered by the Obamacare website
is Blue Screen.

"Obama" and "Obama, Blue Screen of Death Panels" are trademarks of OFA

Posted by: Orgainizing For Assholes at October 14, 2013 01:12 PM (e8kgV)

543 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for taking a 'Friends of Angelo' loan

Posted by: Chris Dodd at October 14, 2013 01:12 PM (Pr6hk)

544 Obama simply waives the debt limit via an executive order, citing his powers as CinC. He can do this not because it's legal but because he can do it and Congress won't do squat.

^^^^THIS

There's already a plan. It may be that, or the mint may be busy striking millions of $500 "coins"...in aluminum.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 14, 2013 01:12 PM (l5zzX)

545 Oh boy. Blob Beckel is going after Ted Cruz again. And Sarah Palin.

What a turd.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 01:13 PM (lVPtV)

546 The govermint outta give us cable TV for free. They got enough of it, with C-span and all. --- It might be funny if they took some C-span debate where the Donks are getting all worked up and do a Mystery Science Theater 3000 thing with smart-ass robots making fun of them.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 14, 2013 01:13 PM (PjgvN)

547 Let it burn. I'm a Raider fan and I have nothing to live for. Posted by: Lucky Pierre at October 14, 2013 05:11 PM (5fSr7) If your a Raider fan, I am surprised your still alive. I had the good sense to die

Posted by: Al Davis at October 14, 2013 01:13 PM (UbDLm)

548 I must say, I'm flabbergasted how the GOP couldn't organize any semblance of a strategy or plan for this CR/Debt-Ceiling fight. They should've stuck to a few important, but doable, items related to ACA. Namely, the congresscritter subsidy, the Medical-Device Tax, and requiring eligibility verification for the O'care subsidies. But they have been all over the place with various factions and the Senate and House moving in different directions. Some are still calling for a delay of the individual mandate, but the eay the echanges are going, were likely to get that anyway when enrollment ends and the sites are still running like shit. I'd be pleased as punch if we simply got the Vitter amendment into law.

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 14, 2013 01:13 PM (UypUQ)

549 529 jwest at October 14, 2013 05:10 PM (u2a4R)

Only ObamaMerica could be broke...sitting atop 1200 years of coal and 1.5 QUADRILLION in shale and NG potential....

WINDMILLS ELEVENTY!!!

I was at Booksamillion yesterday buying a spare copy of The Wealth of Nations discussing that point with my wife...

fucking retard clerk says...

"well we should build more windmills in more places...problem solved..."

THAT is the 52% ladies and gents.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 01:13 PM (9jfyN)

550 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for stiffing the bond-holders of General Motors.

Posted by: San Andreas Fault at October 14, 2013 01:13 PM (3Mz5/)

551 Since we are mortal it can only be true that continuing spiraling upward debt is a form of slavery. CJ Roberts 'tax is the only true god' finding in the Obamacare case reaffirms that only welfare takers are immune to money poorly spent. Because of the false debt ceiling, the slavery really hasn't hit me yet. Maybe it will never actually hit me. But it sure seems likely that it will hit someone, sometime, because as a nation we are like junkies -- we just can't stop ourselves. When we can no longer put off the inevitable, either the money I traded my life to get will become worthless, or it will be confiscated to pay the debt. Either way, my life was traded away in D.C. and not by my choice. Posted by: jc at October 14, 2013 05:03 PM (i8c5b) I have always linked taxation and slavery. So many people will claim they are against it, until it servers THEIR interest, and suddenly they approve.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 01:13 PM (bb5+k)

552 Gabe, so you think it is a good thing that we continue to spend money we don't have every year into eternity? I have children, I have a need to plan for the future. It's better we act as adults now rather than force the next generations to act on our behalf.

Posted by: Dogbert at October 14, 2013 01:13 PM (j2X6g)

553 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for postponing my presidential campaign after Sarah Palin gave me momentum

Posted by: John McCain at October 14, 2013 01:13 PM (Pr6hk)

554 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for telling us in '08 we had nothing to fear from a President Obama.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 01:13 PM (lVPtV)

555 SO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2013 01:14 PM (UbDLm)

556 Ted Cruz kidnapped the Lindbergh baby?

Who's the Lindbergh baby?

Posted by: LIV lunching with True Believer at October 14, 2013 01:14 PM (/kI1Q)

557 Morons, and by that I mean the media and the dickless republicans in congress....We take in TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS a year in tax revenue! That is more than enough to service the debt, so shut the fuck up about a default! There is no fucking default unless God King Obama DECIDES not to pay the fucking debt service!

Posted by: Dan at October 14, 2013 01:14 PM (m3gf3)

558 Well, shit. Ain't that what happens when you don't have enough money to pay all your motherfucking bills ? Yeah, actually, it is. So maybe that's exactly what SHOULD fucking happen.

Posted by: deadrody at October 14, 2013 01:15 PM (+Dpo7)

559 Dumb question. Do any of the OTHER cobs get abused?
I can't say I recall seeing it. My recollection is that everyone gets along well with them.
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 05:07 PM (bb5+k)

Well Gabe gets the vast majority of it but others including Ace have gotten their share too. Apparently some people feel that since this is the internet and the notorious AoSHQ and they have strong feelings, then they can spew whatever they want at anyone they feel like in the comments.

Not the case. And never has been. We may be a rough and tumble bar but there are still some basic rules.

Posted by: Mætenloch at October 14, 2013 01:15 PM (pAlYe)

560 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for postponing my presidential campaign after Sarah Palin gave me momentum

Posted by: John McCain

IKNOWRITE!~ I hired that dude to program my computers to tell people to vote. Shit a brick!

Posted by: Mitt Romney [/i] [/b] at October 14, 2013 01:15 PM (xbjUC)

561 Sock off

Posted by: Soona at October 14, 2013 01:15 PM (3Mz5/)

562 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for failing to pass a federal budget in the Senate for five years

Posted by: Harry Reid is a pederast at October 14, 2013 01:15 PM (Pr6hk)

563 Be sure to buy a Jack in the Box Late Night Munchie meal first.after you've been out looking at the stars with your bong/telescope The breakfast sandwich one. The cheesy chicken is a nightmare. Posted by: CAC at October 14, 2013 04:50 PM (2OjVZ) FIFY. Posted by: Nip Sip at October 14, 2013 04:53 PM (0FSuD) Actually I observe sober. I spend the rest of my life in a haze.

Posted by: CAC at October 14, 2013 01:15 PM (2OjVZ)

564 We can admit, though, that the people who said Cruz's defund strategy was tactically stupid appear to have been correct, right? Pretty much everything they have predicted has come to pass. I thought it was worth a shot as a Hail Mary play, last ditch attempt to stop Obamacare. But the people who said it would end horribly appear to have been correct. We are in a much worse position than we were two weeks ago. The only questions left is how badly we get fucked by this deal and how quickly we can recover.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 14, 2013 01:15 PM (ZPrif)

565 489 If you don't agree with something a co-blogger writes, tough shit. Keep it in your pants and move on, this place ain't for debating. Posted by: Dr Spank at October 14, 2013 05:04 PM (9jLim) This is the essence of what I think I'm hearing from time to time.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 01:16 PM (bb5+k)

566 If you guys don't start posting to Twitter, I'm going to start stealing your stuff!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 01:16 PM (DmNpO)

567 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for letting me take a midnight stroll through Ft Marcy Park

Posted by: Vince Foster at October 14, 2013 01:17 PM (Pr6hk)

568 We are in a much worse position than we were two weeks ago. The only questions left is how badly we get fucked by this deal and how quickly we can recover. Posted by: Flatbush Joe

How are we in a worse position?

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 14, 2013 01:17 PM (9jLim)

569 Remember how Ted Cruz personally raided Social Security and spent the money, then lied to the American people and let them believe the money is still there?

Posted by: Warden at October 14, 2013 01:17 PM (bmp0d)

570 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for eating that apple in the Garden of Eden.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 14, 2013 01:17 PM (a4Omg)

571 I'll never forgive Cruz for walking through the crowd waving that giant mallot on his way to vote on Ocare.

Posted by: Soona at October 14, 2013 01:17 PM (3Mz5/)

572 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for writing a story which praised the Soviet system

Posted by: Walter Duranty at October 14, 2013 01:18 PM (Pr6hk)

573 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for eating that apple in the Garden of Eden. *** I always suspected he had a hand in that

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 01:18 PM (DmNpO)

574 A young Ted Cruz suggested reneging on that tax deal was a great idea. That bastard.

Posted by: George Herbert Walker Bush at October 14, 2013 01:18 PM (oFCZn)

575

Actually, in football there is nothing worse than being the frontrunning favorite to win the Super Bowl except that you have glaring deficiences just waiting to be exposed when you meet the other playoff level teams.

Every team you play acts as if the game is their Super Bowl. The media carps on every misstep, and the pressure builds with any lack of total domination demonstrated by the frontrunner.

*whistles past graveyard of Super Bowl bound teams that didn't get there*

Posted by: Meremortal at October 14, 2013 01:18 PM (1Y+hH)

576 513 I don't know but what would happen is there was a complete tax revolt? Just askin. Who holds the power then bishe's ? But that would take cahones Nevermind Posted by: Moderate Conservative at October 14, 2013 05:08 PM (N3Al

I'm not sure you understand the nature of the beast with which we are currently dealing. It no longer runs on real money anyway.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 01:19 PM (bb5+k)

577 567 If you guys don't start posting to Twitter, I'm going to start stealing your stuff!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 05:16 PM (DmNpO)

I'm not on Twitter (get off my fucking lawn) so steal away.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 01:19 PM (lVPtV)

578 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for blowing a load on his interns blue dress

Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at October 14, 2013 01:19 PM (Pr6hk)

579 My name is BTH, and I'm a Texans fan. Yeah.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 14, 2013 01:19 PM (BaHCX)

580
I thought it was worth a shot as a Hail Mary play, last ditch attempt to stop Obamacare. But the people who said it would end horribly appear to have been correct.
****************

I thought it was stupid, too. But we're not here because of Ted fucking Cruz. He walked us 10 steps out of a 5 mile journey.

Posted by: Warden at October 14, 2013 01:19 PM (bmp0d)

581 The Teapot Dome scandal? It was all Ted Cruz.

Posted by: Warren Harding at October 14, 2013 01:20 PM (oFCZn)

582 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for enslaving those 3 women in Cleveland

Posted by: Ariel Castro at October 14, 2013 01:20 PM (Pr6hk)

583 #558 Considering that Obama and Michelle didn't pay off their student loans until about 7 years ago, I think that there is a good chance that Obama won't pay the National Debt.

Posted by: Jack at October 14, 2013 01:20 PM (gWHwW)

584 The Treasury will just start printing United States Notes again. True fiat money.

Supposedly there's a $300M legal limit or so on them, but now that we're post-Constitutional, that hardly matters if nobody is counting how much of that crap you crank out.

Oh, we actually printed $200B rather than $300M? My bad.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 14, 2013 01:21 PM (l5zzX)

585 I'll never forgive Cruz for stealing $700 billion from Medicare to pay for his political whims.

Posted by: Soona at October 14, 2013 01:21 PM (3Mz5/)

586 I say, this Ted Cruz fellow sounds like a horrible person.

Posted by: Emmanuel Goldstein [/i] [/b] at October 14, 2013 01:21 PM (xbjUC)

587 If you guys don't start posting to Twitter, I'm going to start stealing your stuff! You said something to me a couple days ago about something I wrote and I never replied. Please feel free to steal. I don't Twitter or anything that requires me to reveal just how handsome and attractive I really am. Or am not. I'm not even sure if I'm dead or alive.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 14, 2013 01:21 PM (U2UQk)

588 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for the final season of "Lost."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 01:21 PM (lVPtV)

589 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for preventing the rescue mission to Benghazi

Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at October 14, 2013 01:22 PM (Pr6hk)

590 Well blimey blokes! Turn that frown upside down. Er's a little melody to cheer you up!! All together now! http://tinyurl.com/neuvh4h

Posted by: Regular Aussie Guy at October 14, 2013 01:22 PM (N3Al8)

591 Hindenberg? Yep, Ted Cruz. Oh the humanity!

Posted by: Herbert Morrison at October 14, 2013 01:22 PM (5H6zj)

592 At this point I think we may be better off letting Obama keep the individual mandate... as I think he'll have to do it unilaterally anyways in December/January when it becomes grossly unfair to keep it while the exchange sites are still fubar.

What's a better scenario?

1. President grants GOP a 1-year delay in deal in October, coming off as fair and compromising.

2. President has to delay mandate in January, because they can't et the sites to work!, coming off as a real SCOAMF.

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 14, 2013 01:23 PM (UypUQ)

593 but Cruz is doing what we--Republican voters and right-leaning independents who tend to vote Republican--asked him to do, which is to stop playing go-along and get-alongand fight these evil, slimyrat bastards. Posted by: troyriser at October 14, 2013 05:11 PM (V9ol4) And that is just it. I'm about sick of hearing about "strategy", all I want is someone to put up a fucking fight. Anyone who thinks they can work out the predictability of these outcomes is fooling themselves. All I know is that if we don't fight, we are going to get worse and worse shit coming down the pike. "I can't spare this man. He fights" Abraham Lincoln.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 01:23 PM (bb5+k)

594 I'll never forgive Cruz for selling all those guns to the Mexican drug cartels.

Posted by: Soona at October 14, 2013 01:23 PM (3Mz5/)

595 I don't trust Reid or McConnell.

Posted by: Average Conservative at October 14, 2013 01:23 PM (ygAxO)

596 If Ace has a problem with what I said, he can talk to me.

I generally direct my vitriol at those on the Left that deserve it, plus Juan McSame and Miss Lindsay. As far as I know, this is the first time I've done so at Gabe and it's because he decided to get cute after he posted the article, putting a comment up that he should have known would piss people off.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 14, 2013 05:10 PM (/Crba)

Uh uh. Ace ain't your daddy and that's not the way it works.

He's laid down some basic guidelines on behavior here and assumes people will follow them. If you don't, you *may* get a warning or you just may get ban-hammered.

Posted by: Mætenloch at October 14, 2013 01:23 PM (pAlYe)

597 Ted Cruz took my virginity and then never called.

Posted by: Kate Upton at October 14, 2013 01:23 PM (oFCZn)

598 Every normal man must tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black bicycle shorts, and begin growing a ponytail.

Posted by: X at October 14, 2013 01:23 PM (KHo8t)

599 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for leaving me and my mother to a life of despair in Hawaii

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at October 14, 2013 01:23 PM (Pr6hk)

600 >>>You give yourself away by characterizing it as a Banzai Charge. REMF.

Posted by: polynikes at October 14, 2013 05:10 PM (m2CN7)

Throw insults all you want, the fact is that all your fightfightfighting has only driven the GOP's disapproval numbers into the stratosphere.

But oh, that's right, we don't need to win elections because we can just Will to Power our policies into place.

Posted by: Paul at October 14, 2013 01:23 PM (JM48I)

601

Yo Ace, howzit hangin?

Joe the Plumber don't speak for me

Sarah Palin don't speak for me

Why even the Ace of Spades don't speak for the Mote's Jexster

Ted Cruz. he speaks for me and for the KenyaMan

Posted by: John McCutchen at October 14, 2013 01:23 PM (TjlQw)

602 I say, this Ted Cruz fellow sounds like a horrible person. *** he is a powerful, powerful man.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 01:23 PM (DmNpO)

603 We can admit, though, that the people who said Cruz's defund strategy was tactically stupid appear to have been correct, right? Pretty much everything they have predicted has come to pass.

I thought it was worth a shot as a Hail Mary play, last ditch attempt to stop Obamacare. But the people who said it would end horribly appear to have been correct.

We are in a much worse position than we were two weeks ago. The only questions left is how badly we get fucked by this deal and how quickly we can recover.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 14, 2013 05:15 PM (ZPrif)

Tell me how the defund effort put us into a worse position? Or in the alternative tell me how a delay effort would have been any different.

Posted by: polynikes at October 14, 2013 01:24 PM (m2CN7)

604 Woof woof woof! (Timmy put in well by Ted Cruz)

Posted by: Lassie at October 14, 2013 01:24 PM (5H6zj)

605 Ted Cruz turned me into a newt.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at October 14, 2013 01:24 PM (lr3d7)

606 (I'm doing my taxes today--Fuck. All. This.) Posted by: RoyalOil at October 14, 2013 05:12 PM (VjL9S) Me too.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 01:24 PM (bb5+k)

607 Ted Cruz/Grassy Knoll? Hmm

Posted by: Regular Guy at October 14, 2013 01:24 PM (N3Al8)

608 Uh uh. Ace ain't your daddy and that's not the way it works. He's laid down some basic guidelines on behavior here and assumes people will follow them. If you don't, you *may* get a warning or you just may get ban-hammered. --- If I get banned, I get banned. At BEST, Gabe had a tin ear on this thing. At worst he was intentionally trolling us and deserves to be called out on it.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 14, 2013 01:24 PM (/Crba)

609 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for introducing an underage Stanley Ann Dunham to noted communist pervert Frank Marshall Davis and then getting some Kenyan to stand-in as the father to their love-child.

Posted by: Carlos F. Danger at October 14, 2013 01:24 PM (qxcKC)

610 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for sexually harassing all those women in the San Diego Mayor's Office

Posted by: Bob Filner at October 14, 2013 01:25 PM (Pr6hk)

611 It was Ted Cruz who forced me to post pics of my schwanz on Twitter. At gunpoint

Posted by: Carlos Danger at October 14, 2013 01:26 PM (oFCZn)

612 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for tweeting pics of his junk to teenage girls

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at October 14, 2013 01:26 PM (Pr6hk)

613 Throw insults all you want, the fact is that all your fightfightfighting has only driven the GOP's disapproval numbers into the stratosphere.But oh, that's right, we don't need to win elections because we can just Will to Power our policies into place.

Posted by: Paul at October 14, 2013 05:23 PM (JM48I)

you make it seem like the GOP's numbers weren't in the shitter before Cruz was elected

Posted by: The Dude at October 14, 2013 01:27 PM (vJdyz)

614 Ted Cruz threw all those pick six interceptions the last five games. Can't believe Texas voted for that klutz

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 14, 2013 01:27 PM (BaHCX)

615 Ted Cruz travelled back in time and made me do it.

Posted by: J. W. Booth at October 14, 2013 01:27 PM (5H6zj)

616 Yeah, FightFightFight is just kinda stupid. This isn't actually a war. You have to persuade people. I will say that FightFightFight is at least a better rallying cry than "Let It Burn". Not a big surprise that the Let It Burn cry repels about 10x more people than it attracts.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 14, 2013 01:27 PM (ZPrif)

617 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for forging those TANG documents about President Bush

Posted by: Dan Rather at October 14, 2013 01:27 PM (Pr6hk)

618 Ted Cruz made Meggie McCain fat.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 01:28 PM (lVPtV)

619 I'm sensing that Cruz was the man pulling G.W.'s stings.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 01:28 PM (DmNpO)

620 lindbergh baby kidnapper? cruz

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 14, 2013 01:28 PM (8JJ6O)

621 614 The Dude at October 14, 2013 05:27 PM (vJdyz)

you make it seem like the GOP's numbers weren't in the shitter before Cruz was elected

or that the media can't generate heat for the GOP "heel" in WWE carny with "war on womyn" shit...

the GOP's woes are Ted Cruz's fault like Liberace's sexuality issues were Zsa Zsa Gabor's

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 01:28 PM (9jfyN)

622 Throw insults all you want, the fact is that all your fightfightfighting has only driven the GOP's disapproval numbers into the stratosphere.But oh, that's right, we don't need to win elections because we can just Will to Power our policies into place.

Posted by: Paul at October 14, 2013 05:23 PM (JM48I)

What elections do you wan t to win that are now doomed because we are fighting?

That's what I thought.

Posted by: polynikes at October 14, 2013 01:28 PM (m2CN7)

623 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for his comb-over

Posted by: Donald Trump at October 14, 2013 01:28 PM (Pr6hk)

624

If you don't study you will end up in Iraq Halp Ted Cruz!!!!

Posted by: Famous Ted Cruz quotes at October 14, 2013 01:29 PM (N3Al8)

625 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for riding a girl's bike while wearing mom jeans.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 01:29 PM (lVPtV)

626 In Russia, debt ceiling collides with you!

(since we're in bwahahaha land today)

Posted by: tangonine at October 14, 2013 01:29 PM (x3YFz)

627 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for claiming to be an American-Indian

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at October 14, 2013 01:29 PM (Pr6hk)

628 Actually I observe sober. I spend the rest of my life in a haze. Posted by: CAC at October 14, 2013 05:15 PM (2OjVZ) That makes sense. How the fuck you could keep up with the stars stoned is beyond me. No offense meant.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 14, 2013 01:29 PM (0FSuD)

629 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for tickling his staff members

Posted by: Eric Massa at October 14, 2013 01:30 PM (Pr6hk)

630 Throw insults all you want, the fact is that all
your fightfightfighting has only driven the GOP's disapproval numbers
into the stratosphere.But oh, that's right, we don't need to win
elections because we can just Will to Power our policies into place.

Posted by: Paul

Yeah, those disapproval numbers just started in 2010, right?

Bush ended his term with all of what percentage approval again?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 14, 2013 01:30 PM (xbjUC)

631 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for not having a clue as to how to get an umbrella through a garden gate.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 01:30 PM (lVPtV)

632 Well Gabe gets the vast majority of it but others including Ace have gotten their share too. Apparently some people feel that since this is the internet and the notorious AoSHQ and they have strong feelings, then they can spew whatever they want at anyone they feel like in the comments. Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at October 14, 2013 05:15 PM (pAlYe) Okay, yeah I remember Ace getting a few hits, but I generally regard that as psuedo jocular. People aren't really mad at Ace. People may disagree with Ace and his analysis of something but they have no doubts as to his allegiance. On the rest, yeah, Ace has a right to set the rules as he see's fit. We are guests, nothing more.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 01:30 PM (bb5+k)

633 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for having his political career launched by a domestic terrorist.

Posted by: Warden at October 14, 2013 01:31 PM (bmp0d)

634 you know.....cruz was educated in a madrassa and he ate a dog......

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 14, 2013 01:31 PM (8JJ6O)

635 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for Guam tipping over

Posted by: Hank Johnson (D) Georgia at October 14, 2013 01:31 PM (Pr6hk)

636 So, fucking Ted Cruz sneaked in my kitchen and drank my fucking rum while I was in the shower. Bastard.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 14, 2013 01:31 PM (0FSuD)

637 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for New Coke.

Posted by: Warden at October 14, 2013 01:31 PM (bmp0d)

638

Only one that knows its a biker bar gravel parking lot gang fight is Ted Cruz the RINO's still think they are in the "fix is in" stage.

These are the full made men of the Banditos Biker Club, every one of they did a killoff of part of the constitution to be members and they are ready to rock and roll over the rest of the "peice of paper" that stands in their evil way.

Deadly Commie Thugs will stab you in the back and Mitch McConnell and his old fat man gang are to old to fat to tired, to scared to even look behind themselves and see the knifes comming down.

Posted by: fobdangerclose at October 14, 2013 01:31 PM (nrWVe)

639 That makes sense. How the fuck you could keep up with the stars stoned is beyond me. No offense meant.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 14, 2013 05:29 PM (0FSuD)

Took quantum mech with a kid who regularly showed up smelling like bong water. F'er aced every exam.

Posted by: tangonine at October 14, 2013 01:31 PM (x3YFz)

640 The bottom line: we're about to find out what actually happens when the United States government runs up against the debt ceiling.

Good, and the answer is.......nothing - http://tinyurl.com/kfg3ch5

The debt ceiling hype is just the latest round of bullshit from the asses who told you the senate cloture vote was a vote against obamacare, they're full of shit.

Posted by: booger at October 14, 2013 01:31 PM (xRDdL)

641 The Ford Edsel ... Yep. Ted Cruz

Posted by: Ford motor company at October 14, 2013 01:31 PM (1ThpN)

642 I did not have sex with 'that' women. I did have sex with many other women just not 'that women.

Posted by: Famous Ted Cruz quotes at October 14, 2013 01:31 PM (N3Al8)

643 Drew used to get some abuse but he seems to have come to his senses lately. :ducks:

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 14, 2013 01:32 PM (YmPwQ)

644 who took the cookie from the cookie jar? ted took the cookie from the cookie jar

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 14, 2013 01:32 PM (8JJ6O)

645

On the rest, yeah, Ace has a right to set the rules as he see's fit. We are guests, nothing more.

No need for a guest-house without guests.

Posted by: Kaboom Kid at October 14, 2013 01:32 PM (DHQv9)

646 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for turning me into a bridge abutment

Posted by: Jimmy Hoffa at October 14, 2013 01:33 PM (Pr6hk)

647 Ted Cruz is entirely responsible for the success of Randy Newman.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 14, 2013 01:33 PM (oFCZn)

648 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for writing The Macarena.

Posted by: Warden at October 14, 2013 01:33 PM (bmp0d)

649 So MÃ¦tenloch, what you are saying is that no one gives you shit, cause great ONT's. Other do get shit, early and often. Hell, even Vic gets shit. I thought the HQ was shit central?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 14, 2013 01:33 PM (0FSuD)

650 Walk away Brandon In Baton Rouge, I'd hate to see you get banned. I've seen this movie before and the ending is usually ugly. Definitely not the hill to die on.

Posted by: dogfish at October 14, 2013 01:33 PM (nsOJa)

651
I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for telling me twerking was "awards show gold."

Posted by: Miley at October 14, 2013 01:33 PM (bkTIc)

652 water world? thanks a lot ted

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 14, 2013 01:34 PM (8JJ6O)

653 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for using campaign money to hush up his 'videographer' who he knocked-up

Posted by: John Edwards at October 14, 2013 01:34 PM (Pr6hk)

654 653 water world? thanks a lot ted

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 14, 2013 05:34 PM (8JJ6O)

OK that one crosses the red line (tm).

Posted by: tangonine at October 14, 2013 01:35 PM (x3YFz)

655 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for telling me twerking was "awards show gold." Posted by: Miley at October 14, 2013 05:33 PM (bkTIc) *** HA!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 01:35 PM (DmNpO)

656 Posted by: X at October 14, 2013 05:23 PM (KHo8t) You are quite ballsy in your commentary. I shan't be surprised if there are repercussions.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 14, 2013 01:35 PM (bb5+k)

657

In looking at polls right now, lets remember we've just seen two straight elections with incredibly low GOP voter turnout, even while Pew is saying the voting population is turning significantly more conservative in every. single. state.

It's never pretty looking at a political battle, but the trend lines are pushing the GOP to take an ideological stand. Sure, John McVain is whining about it but who cares? He made his case to the public once before, and he lost. Elections have consequences. The biggest of which is that your ideology is rejected, and that conclusion is doubly true after Romney-bot drew even FEWER GOP votes than did McVain.

Posted by: MTF at October 14, 2013 01:35 PM (B5y+v)

658 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for creating Jar Jar Binks.

Posted by: dogfish at October 14, 2013 01:35 PM (nsOJa)

659

You know all the things they blamed Bush for?

Yep, Ted Cruz.

Posted by: polynikes at October 14, 2013 01:35 PM (m2CN7)

660 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for breaking my leg when he sacked me

Posted by: Joe Theismann at October 14, 2013 01:35 PM (Pr6hk)

661 Ted Cruz is entirely responsible for the success of Randy Newman.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis

I fuckin' knew it! That asshole.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 14, 2013 01:36 PM (xbjUC)

662 I'll never forgive Cruz for all those little boys buried out in the desert near Searchlight, NV.

Posted by: Hairy Reed at October 14, 2013 01:36 PM (3Mz5/)

663 One small step for man one giant step for shutting down the government

Posted by: Famous Ted Cruz quotes at October 14, 2013 01:36 PM (N3Al8)

664 Remember when Ted Cruz almost bombed untold numbers of Syrians to help Al Qaeda set up a stronghold? Yeah, your move, ex-lax. er, smooth move, I mean

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 01:36 PM (uoB45)

665

Remember, the sequester is the result of the "negotiations" done during the 2011 Debt Ceiling Crisis:

http://is.gd/AL5P1q

We all know how that one turned out, right?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at October 14, 2013 01:36 PM (PZ6/M)

666 Barndon in BR,

take the break....

better than getting TB3K'd with no notice....

essentially the field is structurally and by design never going to be level....

nature of the beast.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 14, 2013 01:36 PM (9jfyN)

667 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for all those assisted 'suicides'

Posted by: Jack Kevorkian at October 14, 2013 01:36 PM (Pr6hk)

668 Didn't read all the comments, but BHO "wins" either way. And as the Alinsky inspired Community Organizer, he and Val Jar have already gamed it out. 1) Republicans fold and "do the right thing", and Barry gets to curb stomp them. 2) in the name of the "full faith and credit" if the United States, Barry grabs more Constitutional power and unilaterally raises the debt ceiling himself with an XO. Either way, Imperial Facist Presidency, and Congress is emasculated further. Low information voters and Low consequence voters will approve, as will the Barry loyalists. This is the way the Republic dies. Welcome to the future. It's here, and you're soaking in it. Tom Hanks is all in for a third term of this.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at October 14, 2013 01:36 PM (RFeQD)

669 510 492 fact is we had a budget committee back in 2011....

we did not get a new budget donkey does not want the marks back at home knowing how over the top farcical spending has gotten....

Not the same thing but I understand what you are saying. If we get a budget conference committee, the number of concessions the Republicans get depends on the amount of leverage they have and whether the Senate Democrats decide it is in their best interest to deal. As of right now, they are willing to deal (to a certain extent), but what is their motive?

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 14, 2013 01:36 PM (YjDyJ)

670

Do not mess with Texas and for sure our Ted Cruz, we have his back total.

Posted by: fobdangerclose at October 14, 2013 01:36 PM (nrWVe)

671 Ted Cruz wrote "We Built This City."

Posted by: tangonine at October 14, 2013 01:36 PM (x3YFz)

672 ted cruz is yoko ono

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 14, 2013 01:37 PM (8JJ6O)

673 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for landing that plane short of the runway at SFO

Posted by: Korean Pilot at October 14, 2013 01:37 PM (Pr6hk)

674 Remember when Ted Cruz was berated in front of the entire world by Putin?

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 01:38 PM (uoB45)

675 668 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for all those assisted 'suicides'

Posted by: Jack Kevorkian at October 14, 2013 05:36 PM (Pr6hk)

You just gave me a great idea for a Regiment patch!

Posted by: tangonine at October 14, 2013 01:38 PM (x3YFz)

676 Slow down people, I'm writing as fast as I can.

Posted by: MFM at October 14, 2013 01:38 PM (nsOJa)

677 I HAVE A DREAM! to shut down the government

Posted by: Famous Ted Cruz quotes at October 14, 2013 01:38 PM (N3Al8)

678 ted cruz TOLD corey booker he didn't have to live in the city he was mayor of ...

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 14, 2013 01:39 PM (8JJ6O)

679 Wanna play lawn darts?

Posted by: Ted at October 14, 2013 01:39 PM (DHQv9)

680 Ted Cruz fingered this guy, now he's dead. http://tinyurl.com/2ynlmu

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 14, 2013 01:39 PM (0FSuD)

681 Remember when Ted Cruz was part of the Choom Gang in Hawaii when he was a kid?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 01:39 PM (lVPtV)

682 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for naming my child 'North'

Posted by: Kayne West at October 14, 2013 01:39 PM (Pr6hk)

683 Ted Cruz erased that tape.

Posted by: Rose Mary Woods at October 14, 2013 01:40 PM (0FSuD)

684
Ted Cruz destroyed Hillary's "It takes a village" in order to save it.

Posted by: Wolf Double Jeopardy Blitzer at October 14, 2013 01:40 PM (bkTIc)

685 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for writing "Dreams From My Father" by himself.

*cough*

Posted by: Bill Ayers at October 14, 2013 01:40 PM (lVPtV)

686 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for giving me that 8-ball of cocaine

Posted by: Lenny Bias at October 14, 2013 01:40 PM (Pr6hk)

687 I'll never forgive Cruz for Cash for Clunkers.

Posted by: Hairy Reed at October 14, 2013 01:40 PM (3Mz5/)

688 What's leadership? Ted Cruz trying to change the name of a national icon. That's real leadership, not some "stunt" on the Senate floor speaking out for hundreds of millions of Americans.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 01:41 PM (uoB45)

689 Remember how Ted Cruz personally raided Social Security and spent the money, then lied to the American people and let them believe the money is still there? Posted by: Warden Ah, but that's where I have him. See, he forged a key to the lockbox, stole all the money and bought a lot of semi-automatic shotguns for the Mexican Sinola Drug Cartel, hoping to create a revolution. And paid off all the people that were supposed to build the border fence, and personally wrecked the programming and code-writing for the Obamacare Exchanges. Just like the Strawberries.

Posted by: Captain Barack Obama Queeg at October 14, 2013 01:41 PM (RFeQD)

690 674 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for landing that plane short of the runway at SFO Posted by: Korean Pilot at October 14, 2013 05:37 PM (Pr6hk) Me either

Posted by: We Fonk Up at October 14, 2013 01:41 PM (0FSuD)

691 ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU!!, because I'm shutting it down bitches

Posted by: Famous Ted Cruz quotes at October 14, 2013 01:41 PM (N3Al8)

692 Four dead in Ohio? We'll never forgive Ted Cruz

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 14, 2013 01:41 PM (oFCZn)

693
I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for making that horrible 'Top Gun' movie.

Posted by: Emily Littella at October 14, 2013 01:42 PM (OZmbA)

694 Is any of this sinking in?

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 01:42 PM (uoB45)

695 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for breaching the Branch Davidian compound in Waco

Posted by: David Koresh at October 14, 2013 01:42 PM (Pr6hk)

696 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for not telling us ace has a nood one up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 01:42 PM (lVPtV)

697 he killed the radio star........

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 14, 2013 01:42 PM (8JJ6O)

698 I'll never forgive Cruz for bringing Hitler to power.

Posted by: Hairy Reed at October 14, 2013 01:42 PM (3Mz5/)

699 Your move, dunce.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 14, 2013 01:42 PM (uoB45)

700 new ace thread up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 14, 2013 01:42 PM (DmNpO)

701 Ted Cruz takes all the cute pages. Asshole.

Posted by: Harry Reid, Pedarist at October 14, 2013 01:43 PM (0FSuD)

702 Nood

Posted by: T. Cruz, evil genius at October 14, 2013 01:43 PM (5H6zj)

703 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for deporting me back to Cuba at gunpoint

Posted by: Elio Gonzalez at October 14, 2013 01:43 PM (Pr6hk)

704 We have nothing to fear, but Ted Cruz himself!

Posted by: Famous quotes about Ted Cruz at October 14, 2013 01:43 PM (nsOJa)

705 Oh well. It ain't over. Was it over when Ted Cruz led the German navy over Pearl Harbor?

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 14, 2013 01:43 PM (U2UQk)

706 The biggest of which is that your ideology is rejected, and that conclusion is doublytrue after Romney-bot drew even FEWER GOP votes than did McVain.

Posted by: MTF at October 14, 2013 05:35 PM (B5y+v)

I don't know where the fewer GOP votes stat comes from but Romney had over a million more votes than McCain and won 24 states to McCains 22.

Posted by: polynikes at October 14, 2013 01:43 PM (m2CN7)

707 687 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for giving me that 8-ball of cocaine Posted by: Lenny Bias at October 14, 2013 05:40 PM (Pr6hk) Nice! And obscure.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 14, 2013 01:43 PM (oFCZn)

708
Badges? What badges? We don't need no stinking badges!

Posted by: Ted Cruz at October 14, 2013 01:45 PM (bkTIc)

709 i'll never forgive ted cruz for those horrible mission imposible movies he made

Posted by: kj at October 14, 2013 01:45 PM (kw7uo)

710 482 The long arm of the Obama Brown Shirts aka NPS places gates at Flight 93 Memorial.http://tinyurl.com/ku9nwku

Posted by: gracepmc at October 14, 2013 04:58 PM (rznx3)

Oh, good. Blood just shot out of my eyes all over my keyboard.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 14, 2013 05:03 PM (lVPtV)

*************

Still mopping up the bile on mine. Takes a twisted mind to do this kind of stuff.

Posted by: gracepmc at October 14, 2013 01:48 PM (rznx3)

711

Given there's a couple of hundred billion rolls in every month and interest is only $25 B, There are only a couple of ways the USA could default.

One: is the President orders Treasury to not to pay the interest, pay other things and let the money run out. That would be unconstitutional but that's never stopped Obama before. Even then, Treasury might pay it anyway under its own authority. Impeachment should ensue.

Two: Treasury forgets to make the payment or otherwise fuks up or the transfer system shuts of something.

I don't think there's anything the House could do to force a default.

Why can't even republicans and conservative or fair and balanced media understand this and drop the brinksmanship.

Since only Obama can cause default, even mentioning default, or in other words, questioning the good faith and credit of the US is cause for impeachment. It may not pass both houses, it would make for some good discussions, a teaching moment if you will.

That being said, as they come close to the deadline, media outlets will begin discussing this rationally with things like "isn't there enough money coming in every month to pay the interest and prevent a default?".

Drop some knowledge on this Canadian and tell me where I'm going wrong?

Btw, If someone wants their principal back, they can borrow to replace it since it would have no net effect on the debt ceiling.

Sorry of the spacing fks up.

Posted by: dirks strewn at October 14, 2013 01:50 PM (n+DCP)

712 Td Cruz took the native Americans lands and gold from them,, and and and their peace pipes too. He is the one who taught them to scalp.

Posted by: fobdangerclose at October 14, 2013 01:50 PM (nrWVe)

713

692

Posted by: fobdangerclose at October 14, 2013 01:58 PM (nrWVe)

714

707 I don't know where the fewer GOP votes stat comes from but Romney had over a million more votes than McCain and won 24 states to McCains 22.

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http://bit.ly/193e3sT

http://bit.ly/GOiwG6

Posted by: MTF at October 14, 2013 02:03 PM (B5y+v)

715 713 Td Cruz took the native Americans lands and gold from them,, and andand their peace pipes too. He is the one who taught them to scalp.

Posted by: fobdangerclose at October 14, 2013 05:50 PM (nrWVe)

****************

And it has recently been reported by an anonymous source close to Dan Snyder, that Ted Cruz is responsible for naming the Washington Redskins.

Posted by: gracepmc at October 14, 2013 02:07 PM (rznx3)

716 The WMDs in Iraq? That's right, Ted Cruz moved them.

Posted by: Warden at October 14, 2013 02:10 PM (bmp0d)

717 No they weren't right FlatBush Joe. They spent their time immediately saying they would fold and are now stunned that Obama and the Dems are waiting for total surrender. Boehner should have passed the three different CR's and a debt raise for 3-6 months and then sent Congress home. Let the Republicans run around their districts blasting the Democrats, especially the vulnerable Democrats in the Senate. Instead we got McClellan levels of battle leadership.

Posted by: Chris at October 14, 2013 02:11 PM (xEeK9)

718 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for doing the makeup prior to my first presidential debate.

Posted by: Al Gore at October 14, 2013 02:16 PM (BPKIW)

719 Who keeps saying the failure to raise the debt ceiling equals DEFAULT ? It simply means we cannot borrow more money. Money coming in is more than enough to service our current debt, at least for the next few years.

Posted by: desertdweller at October 14, 2013 02:38 PM (XAxGU)

720 692!! 692!! 692!! 692!!

Posted by: JFK at October 14, 2013 02:46 PM (BPKIW)

721 Your move Mr. Cruz?

It isn't his fault the GOP leadership is relentlessly incompetent.

If they weren't, they'd would have come up with some sort of coherent plan that would have made use of the enormous enthusiasm once displayed by the Tea Partiers, circa 2010. Instead, they turned an enormous electoral victory into meh.

Real men of genius. And as usual, the blame for this latest failure is being dumped off on the nearest non-establishment figure, in this case Ted Cruz.

Nothing to do with the deep-seated, diamond-plated political incompetence of the Republican establishment.

Nope. The buck always stops at someone else's desk.

Good luck with that GOP, because it has worked so well, so far.

Posted by: Xennady at October 14, 2013 02:56 PM (PyS5G)

722 The House has the ability to eliminate deficit spending instantly. Just do nothing. #Prioritization

Posted by: toby928© hashtags it at October 14, 2013 03:03 PM (QupBk)

723 CALL THE MOTHERFUCKER'S BLUFF.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 14, 2013 03:12 PM (NvZnr)

724 76 They will simply move the goalppost. They are already sending out trial balloons saying the REAL drop dead date for going over the debt ceiling is November 1st. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 14, 2013 04:06 PM (f9c2L) There should be more 100 Years Wars. Just saying.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 14, 2013 03:17 PM (5TFvk)

725 Gabe, didn't you want a fight over the debt ceiling? Isn't the public now seeing how low the Democrats will go? Doesn't that help the GOP in the upcoming debt ceiling fight? Do you think hitting the debt ceiling means automatic default? What was your battle plan?

Posted by: eman at October 14, 2013 03:25 PM (EvleW)

726 Ted Cruz is a rubber thieving THEOCRAT!

Posted by: cackfinger at October 14, 2013 03:29 PM (OsCtd)

727 Funny thing is when they go after the so cons, they always say they're for a sane fiscal policy. What a crock of shit.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 14, 2013 03:54 PM (gznAu)

728 Obama is a Calvinist at heart

WTF?

Posted by: John Calvin at October 14, 2013 03:58 PM (xm1A1)

729 OK--- Raise the debt ceiling with a CLEAN bill, BUT, hang on to the shut down until they agree to a moratorium on BHOCARE. too easy, bad pub with folks starting to figure out that DEMAGOGUES, i mean democrats, are purposely making this more painful than need be-- we CAN win this.

Posted by: rld77 a fellow traveler at October 14, 2013 05:21 PM (wApUL)

730 Freeze the Debt Ceiling and let the bodies hit the floor.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 14, 2013 05:57 PM (kfSXj)

731

There's a missed deadline, and somebody gets blamed? Is that what you see for me? I'M THE ONE WHO BLAMES! -- Gabe Malor

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at October 14, 2013 06:13 PM (5xmd7)

732 Doesn't matter. Obama said no compromise, even if the Dems do stuff.

So, no, it's not "Ted Cruz's move".

And Gabe, again I say, Fuck you and the queen you rode in on.

Posted by: Picasa Tucasa at October 14, 2013 06:46 PM (/18wo)

733 My oh my, the sky is falling.

Mabel, throw another bag of popcorn in the zapper and I'll run out and get another six pack... This is getting interesting...

Posted by: Seipherd at October 14, 2013 10:21 PM (AortR)

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