May 22, 2013
— DrewM Lois Lerner is going to assert her 5th Amendment Right to avoid self-incrimination.
That's her right. She should also be fired immediately. She has no right to draw a paycheck from the People Of The United States Of America if, as a government employee, she is unwilling or unable to cooperate with legitimate Congressional oversight, then she is unfit to continue in her position.
It's on CSPAN-3 and some of the cable nets are breaking in and out. You can't get a livestream here.
BTW- bumping down amnesty news is part of the problem. Obviously this is hot news but amnesty is, in the words of Joe Biden, a Big F'n Deal.
UPDATE: What a smug SOB she is. She sat there like she'd done nothing wrong and was above it all. She's the perfect bureaucrat. Clean the lot of them out.
The Civil Service system doesn't prevent politicization of government, it prevents anything being done about it.
Issa dismissed her and her attorney from the hearing.
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Posted by: spypeach at May 22, 2013 06:06 AM (6xG9/)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at May 22, 2013 06:06 AM (fzFF6)
Jim Jordan gave a pretty good opening statement
I hope they resist the urge to make more statements and just ask questions
make them say on the record, over and over again, that they take the 5th. Like the mafia
This isn't just the IRS. Its all of it. Its the state against the citizen
Posted by: thunderb at May 22, 2013 06:07 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: spypeach at May 22, 2013 06:07 AM (6xG9/)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 22, 2013 06:07 AM (54/YX)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 22, 2013 06:07 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at May 22, 2013 06:08 AM (L4CWX)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 22, 2013 06:09 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: SurferDoc at May 22, 2013 06:09 AM (6H6FZ)
"Director of IRS Tax-Exempt Determinations Office Is Obama Donor"- http://bit.ly/144ANGb
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at May 22, 2013 06:10 AM (YjDyJ)
Because this clown show provides perfect cover for the amnesty bill?
Posted by: Hunkered down at May 22, 2013 06:10 AM (Cs2tJ)
Posted by: thunderb at May 22, 2013 06:11 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 22, 2013 06:11 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: thunderb at May 22, 2013 06:13 AM (nH8jP)
2. Shulman sounds like he should be prancing over grassy hillsides picking pansies and tulips.
Posted by: H Badger at May 22, 2013 06:13 AM (n/0Nw)
Says that he finally read the IG report. About time...
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 06:14 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 22, 2013 06:14 AM (X6akg)
Because this clown show provides perfect cover for the amnesty bill?
Posted by: Hunkered down at May 22, 2013 10:10 AM (Cs2tJ)
Yes that is exactly why they are having this hearing. Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.
Posted by: polynikes at May 22, 2013 06:14 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Tami at May 22, 2013 10:14 AM (X6akg)
----
Yes ..... his "little brother".
Posted by: fixerupper at May 22, 2013 06:15 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 22, 2013 06:15 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Mr Pink at May 22, 2013 06:15 AM (+0cEv)
former DOJ and election commission?
It has always been this way, just a matter of degree
statists gonna protect the state, not the citizen
Posted by: thunderb at May 22, 2013 06:16 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 06:16 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 06:17 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: frode at May 22, 2013 06:17 AM (8z3Pa)
Posted by: Mainah at May 22, 2013 06:17 AM (659DL)
Drew, please bump the amnesty back up later on. Its important, these scandals could drag on for years.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 22, 2013 06:18 AM (jKWYf)
Posted by: freemo at May 22, 2013 06:18 AM (1HJk5)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 22, 2013 06:19 AM (54/YX)
Posted by: Lois Lerner at May 22, 2013 06:20 AM (Lljg2)
Posted by: EveR at May 22, 2013 06:20 AM (pPOhx)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 22, 2013 06:20 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 22, 2013 06:21 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 22, 2013 06:22 AM (UypUQ)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 22, 2013 06:22 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 22, 2013 06:22 AM (P7hip)
Posted by: spypeach at May 22, 2013 06:22 AM (6xG9/)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 22, 2013 06:23 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: spypeach at May 22, 2013 06:23 AM (6xG9/)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 22, 2013 06:23 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: freemo at May 22, 2013 06:24 AM (1HJk5)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 22, 2013 06:24 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: supercore23 at May 22, 2013 06:24 AM (bwV72)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 22, 2013 06:24 AM (0qqnb)
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 22, 2013 06:24 AM (UypUQ)
This whole bevy of scandals is SOP for the Obammy regime. Since day one in office it's been common practice for this alleged administration to overwhelm the public with outrage after outrage, so that we can't focus long enough on one before being forced to address another. I absolutely believe this IRS thing was put out there to distract from Benghazi AND from amnesty AND from gun control -- don't think for a minute the latter is dead, because it won't be if Obammy ahs his way.
"But why would the regime shoot itself in the foot with this IRS story?" you ask. "It's stupid! It's cutting off yoru nose to spite your face!"
But it's also the thing that's got everyone's attention, from top to bottom, with plenty of fall guys along the way to protect the Preezy. Not a lot of low level employees you can blame for Benghazi. Not a lot of low level employees voting on amnesty. Not a lot of low level employees pushing the buttons on gun control. But there are PLENTY of LLEs in this IRS story, and the AP/FNC story, too -- enough to keep the MFM and the LIVs occupied for months if they wish.
We have to juggle all of them. It's hard and it sucks, but every single one of these stories has to stay in the air.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 06:25 AM (4df7R)
they want her to talk to her attorney about whether she waived by making a statement
Issa made noises about talking to her attorney about immunity as well
they want her to drop a dime on whoever gave her the order to do so
they can always call her back and do the theater of having her plead the 5th over and over again
Posted by: thunderb at May 22, 2013 06:25 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 22, 2013 10:24 AM (8sCoq)
That's why I asked in #35 why she's allowed to make an opening statement!
That's BS!
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 22, 2013 06:25 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at May 22, 2013 06:25 AM (L4CWX)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2013 06:25 AM (+98Gb)
Posted by: polynikes at May 22, 2013 06:26 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Waldo at May 22, 2013 06:26 AM (w+oEo)
Posted by: H Badger at May 22, 2013 06:26 AM (n/0Nw)
Oh well, can't afford the bits anyway and it's all just for show..
Obama is still president.
The little people can be easily replaced.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 22, 2013 06:26 AM (tNr8l)
The negotiation ploy by Issa was just to appear to be giving every chance to respond. Lerner failed. A delay of sorts but it ensures the scandal grows.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 22, 2013 06:27 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 22, 2013 06:27 AM (/PCJa)
You lost the ability to go after the person, but you do it when it means you get the bigger fish.
My worry is that they have to get the DOJ to agree to not prosecute someone so that information can be obtained that may implicate... people in or over the DOJ.
Hold your breath...
Posted by: TFG at May 22, 2013 06:27 AM (EsxAc)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 22, 2013 06:27 AM (da5Wo)
She does NOT have the right to continue employment at the IRS.
Posted by: AAA at May 22, 2013 06:27 AM (JFsQc)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 22, 2013 06:27 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 22, 2013 06:27 AM (g1DWB)
I do not think Issa screwed up
they pretty clearly signaled that they would consider extending immunity to her
they want a bigger fish
Posted by: thunderb at May 22, 2013 06:27 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: eman at May 22, 2013 06:27 AM (SXsuy)
Congratulations Lois. A graduation present.
- Why? I got pinched.
- Everyone does. You did it right. You told them nothing.
- I thought you'd be mad.
-I'm not mad, I'm proud of you.You took your first pinch like a man, and learned the two greatest things in life.
Look at me. Never rat on your friends...
...and always keep your mouth shut.
Here he is!
You broke your cherry!
Congratulations!
Posted by: President Barack Obama at May 22, 2013 06:28 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 22, 2013 06:28 AM (zA7Zp)
Posted by: Waldo at May 22, 2013 10:26 AM (w+oEo)
Gamers?
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 22, 2013 06:28 AM (UypUQ)
Posted by: imp at May 22, 2013 06:28 AM (hOB/n)
Posted by: RWC at May 22, 2013 06:28 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 06:28 AM (BAS5M)
I think Issa did the right thing because Lois Lerner is Superman's girlfriend and you don't want to mess with that guy.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 22, 2013 06:28 AM (jKWYf)
"They appear to be having a Car-B-Que in Stockholm. Apparently, the police shot a guy who attacked them with a machete. Guess who is rioting? Go ahead...guess..."
ABBA fans?
Posted by: Jaws at May 22, 2013 06:28 AM (4I3Uo)
That would mean that any witness who answered any question at trial would be barred from invoking it.
I think it's been interpreted both ways. Typically, since Congress can't send you to jail, I believe that Congress asserts it's all-or-nothing. But I could be wrong, there.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 22, 2013 06:29 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 22, 2013 06:29 AM (wbmaj)
The IRS will stonewall and Congress will grandstand. That means we lose. Again.
If Congress actually represented the people they would clean house, reform the tax code and downsize the IRS.
Instead we have a Fifth Column of government which is beyond Constitutional grasp because Congress has no balls.
Immigration Reform? You're kidding- right? Here we have an issue which affects every tax-paying American and is fundamental to our freedom. Yet there are no legislative proposals?
Congress sucks and we are worse off for it.
Posted by: Marcus at May 22, 2013 06:29 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: AltonJackson@work at May 22, 2013 06:29 AM (1EUmb)
Posted by: toby928 curses the new site blocker at work at May 22, 2013 06:29 AM (evdj2)
Guess who is rioting? Go ahead...guess...
Posted by: Waldo at May 22, 2013 10:26 AM (w+oEo)
It's the fucking Lutherans again, isn't it?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 06:29 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 22, 2013 06:29 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 22, 2013 06:30 AM (zA7Zp)
Posted by: spypeach at May 22, 2013 06:30 AM (6xG9/)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 22, 2013 06:30 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: imp at May 22, 2013 06:30 AM (hOB/n)
Posted by: Y-not, disgusted at May 22, 2013 06:30 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Baldy at May 22, 2013 06:30 AM (tyDFN)
Posted by: USA at May 22, 2013 06:31 AM (VIaw0)
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 22, 2013 06:31 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Jaydee at May 22, 2013 06:31 AM (nEQwk)
But like Obama gives people jobs and stuff.
I think I'm gonna get glitter at my mani-pedi when my state money comes in.
Posted by: Suzi Creamcheese at May 22, 2013 06:31 AM (ZKzrr)
Apparently, the police shot a guy who attacked them with a machete.
Guess who is rioting? Go ahead...guess...
Posted by: Waldo at May 22, 2013 10:26 AM (w+oEo)
Amish running amok again
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 22, 2013 06:31 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: [/s][/b]jwb7605 ([i][u]Let it Burn[/u][/i]) at May 22, 2013 06:32 AM (Qxe/p)
Honestly, they put a lawyer in front of a congressional committee. What did they think would happen?
Congress played chicken and then blinked. We lose. Again.
Posted by: Marcus at May 22, 2013 06:32 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: howdy at May 22, 2013 06:32 AM (gmQC3)
At least Gustavus Adolphus will spare the Hofbrauhaus.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at May 22, 2013 06:33 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Baldy at May 22, 2013 06:33 AM (tyDFN)
Posted by: RushBabe at May 22, 2013 06:33 AM (qkZxk)
There's no reason to keep her there.
Posted by: imp at May 22, 2013 10:28 AM (hOB/n)
Of course there's a reason for it. It's about optics and soundbytes. It's about making her sit there and have to plead the fifth on question after question after question; sensible questions that any honest person should be able to answer without fear of criminal charges. If the DOPE was a smart party they'd be stockpiling the video clips and turning them into attack ads. Since they won't, I'm hoping that PACs are doing it for them.
The Dems are determined to make everything political. I hate it, but that's the game they're playing. We have to play it back at them.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 06:33 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Yakov Smirnov at May 22, 2013 06:33 AM (zA7Zp)
Posted by: thunderb at May 22, 2013 10:07 AM (nH8jP)
This is right.
Posted by: MTF at May 22, 2013 06:34 AM (B5y+v)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2013 06:34 AM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Baldy at May 22, 2013 06:34 AM (tyDFN)
Posted by: Madamex at May 22, 2013 06:34 AM (OwZcP)
Posted by: Waldo at May 22, 2013 10:26 AM (w+oEo)
Restive youths of indeterminate origin?
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2013 06:34 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: jgs at May 22, 2013 06:34 AM (y7MHL)
Posted by: Bigby's Gunpowder Burnt Hands at May 22, 2013 06:34 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: imp at May 22, 2013 06:34 AM (hOB/n)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 22, 2013 06:34 AM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 22, 2013 06:34 AM (5TFvk)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2013 06:34 AM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Ma Bell at May 22, 2013 06:34 AM (RLdcX)
no
Gowdy said they asked to run it like a trial
a witness at trial cannot make a statement, at all, and then invoke the right against self incrimination. Its all or nothing
Issa saw that it did not matter and she would refuse to answer in any event
and then mentioned immunity
immunity form prosecution. they sound like they are in talks with her lawyer
Posted by: thunderb at May 22, 2013 06:35 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: EC at May 22, 2013 06:35 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: polynikes at May 22, 2013 06:35 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 22, 2013 06:35 AM (zA7Zp)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 22, 2013 06:35 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Jaydee at May 22, 2013 10:31 AM (nEQwk)
*throws hands up in the air* Might as well just have the gestapo in the room with them
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 06:36 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 22, 2013 06:36 AM (zA7Zp)
Posted by: USA at May 22, 2013 10:31 AM (VIaw0)
In a civil court case, yes, you can draw a negative inference from pleading the fifth. I don't know exactly how it plays out in congressional proceedings, though.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2013 06:36 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at May 22, 2013 06:37 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: spypeach at May 22, 2013 06:37 AM (6xG9/)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2013 06:37 AM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Baldy at May 22, 2013 10:34 AM (tyDFN)
We're already behind the 8 ball there, though, since "conservative" has more letters than "liberal," and that's confusing to the mouthbreathing masses.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 06:37 AM (4df7R)
Pepto, or cocktail....?
Posted by: spypeach at May 22, 2013 10:37 AM (6xG9/)
Why not both?
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2013 06:37 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 22, 2013 06:38 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: spypeach at May 22, 2013 06:38 AM (6xG9/)
Posted by: SFGoth at May 22, 2013 06:38 AM (dZ756)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 22, 2013 06:38 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 06:38 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at May 22, 2013 10:37 AM (4df7R)
Did somebody say "8 ball"? Party up in here!
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at May 22, 2013 06:38 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: spypeach at May 22, 2013 06:39 AM (6xG9/)
Posted by: spypeach at May 22, 2013 10:37 AM (6xG9/)
Pink Squirrel. Then you can have both!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 06:39 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 22, 2013 06:39 AM (5TFvk)
https://twitter.com/Lisa_Nashville/status/337016507555016704/photo/1
It's of Nixon with "I'm Not a Crook" at the top and "By Today's Standards" at the bottom.
Oh how far we have fallen.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 22, 2013 06:40 AM (wrS2o)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at May 22, 2013 10:39 AM (4df7R)
Pink Squirrel? That sounds...nasty.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2013 06:40 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 22, 2013 06:40 AM (5TFvk)
She should be horsewhipped in the Capitol Rotunda.
Posted by: Karl Rogue at May 22, 2013 06:41 AM (hKyl0)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 22, 2013 06:41 AM (XYSwB)
Lerner should be fired. From a cannon. Into the sun.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at May 22, 2013 06:41 AM (bNYYG)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at May 22, 2013 06:41 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: eman at May 22, 2013 06:41 AM (SXsuy)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 22, 2013 10:38 AM (XYSwB)
Well, since you are already in spandex, you might as well just take the photos now.....
Posted by: typical perverted Moron at May 22, 2013 06:41 AM (O6Tmi)
You can't tell your company to stop withholding.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 22, 2013 10:40 AM (5TFvk)
And therein lies the problem. Because of mandatory withholding, the IRS has everyone who isn't self-employed by the balls.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2013 06:41 AM (DrWcr)
Pink Squirrel? That sounds...nasty.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2013 10:40 AM (DrWcr)
Pfft! My mother, when she was younger, used to enjoy the occasional pink squirrel.
The Pink Squirrel is a cocktail made of
1 oz Creme de Noyaux
1 oz Creme de Cacao
1 oz Heavy Cream
In spypeach's case, i'd recommend adding some Pepto to the mix.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 06:42 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 22, 2013 06:42 AM (XYSwB)
Really?
She asserted her innocence, pleaded the fifth, then got up and left.
She wins....we lose.
Posted by: typical perverted Moron at May 22, 2013 06:42 AM (O6Tmi)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 22, 2013 06:43 AM (8sCoq)
Every headline already has the fact that she has plead the 5th. Having her do it multiple times will not make a difference at least to the LIV.
What the committee does going forward is what is important.
Posted by: polynikes at May 22, 2013 06:43 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 22, 2013 06:43 AM (CJjw5)
You're not the Suzi Creamcheese that works at Broygle's Bagels are you?? Wondered what ever happened to her.......
Posted by: 4TZNh at May 22, 2013 06:44 AM (4TZNh)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at May 22, 2013 06:44 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 22, 2013 06:44 AM (5TFvk)
Posted by: spypeach at May 22, 2013 10:39 AM (6xG9/)
That idea was brought up the other day. IIRC, the objection was that, if you default on your taxes, the IRSS can seize your property and that the left would jump for joy at being able to grab that much land.
I still like the idea of telling the IRS "fuck you," but it's got to be done in a way that leaves them impotent.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 22, 2013 06:44 AM (zF6Iw)
I pay mine every two weeks.
---
What if millions of us just claimed 11,000 deductions on the W-4 form?
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 22, 2013 06:44 AM (SO2Q8)
They were quite nice.
There is nothing quite like the curve of a natural breast.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 22, 2013 06:44 AM (O6Tmi)
Posted by: EveR at May 22, 2013 06:44 AM (pPOhx)
Announcing over "bullhorns" that they were illegally on "public property," it seems.
And how does that work exactly? I don't recall any such remonstrations against the filth-incrusted hippies during OWS when they turned public spaces around the country into sewers.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 06:45 AM (4df7R)
And how does that work exactly? I don't recall any such remonstrations against the filth-incrusted hippies during OWS when they turned public spaces around the country into sewers.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at May 22, 2013 10:45 AM (4df7R)
I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
Posted by: DHS official at May 22, 2013 06:45 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 22, 2013 10:44 AM (5TFvk)
Well, we don't have to look at her mug, for one.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 06:45 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: EveR at May 22, 2013 10:44 AM (pPOhx)
Bush was a cocksucking statist.
Posted by: Hunkered down at May 22, 2013 06:45 AM (Cs2tJ)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 22, 2013 06:46 AM (wbmaj)
Announcing over "bullhorns" that they were illegally on "public property," it seems.
So much for the right of the people to peaceably assemble.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2013 06:46 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: SFGoth at May 22, 2013 06:46 AM (dZ756)
Posted by: Mr Pink at May 22, 2013 06:46 AM (+0cEv)
Somebody should have stuck out their foot and tripped the witch.
I hope she enjoys sub-par food, long walks in chains and room with a very small rectangular view.
Posted by: Marcus at May 22, 2013 06:46 AM (GGCsk)
There isn't enough Right Guard to protect their underarms now.
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 06:47 AM (iYbLN)
Why did Bush appoint all these Democrats to IRS?
Posted by: EveR at May 22, 2013 10:44 AM (pPOhx)
Bush couldn't even get a RINO through Congress; the Dems stonewalled every appointee.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 06:47 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 22, 2013 06:47 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at May 22, 2013 10:44 AM (7ObY1)
I doubt it.
I'm not a lawyer, but I can't imagine that our 5th amendment rights are an all-or-nothing thing.
I can imagine many scenarios in which someone testifying gives information about one topic but assets his 5th amendment rights during questioning about another topic.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 22, 2013 06:47 AM (O6Tmi)
Posted by: spypeach at May 22, 2013 06:47 AM (6xG9/)
this is not Boooossshh's fault
All these lawyers have worked for government all their fucking lives
every single one of them is a statist and has been for decades
you will find this in every government office everywhere
currently it is impossible to staff without government employee lifers
Posted by: thunderb at May 22, 2013 06:48 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: RiverC at May 22, 2013 06:48 AM (El+h4)
Martha Stewart went to federal prison for a lot less and served her time. This bitch, Lois Lerner, will get a pass. Pisses. Me. Off.
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 06:48 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 22, 2013 06:48 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 06:48 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 22, 2013 06:48 AM (XYSwB)
Look at the optics and smugness of her response. If that does not get her fired and prosecuted, nothing will.
Balls in your court Obama. Is this your idea of fixing things?
Posted by: Marcus at May 22, 2013 06:48 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: AltonJackson@work at May 22, 2013 06:49 AM (1EUmb)
The black-mascared loon from San Francisco is 100% correct.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 22, 2013 06:49 AM (O6Tmi)
What is this "stonewalling of appointees" of which you speak?
We have never heard of this.
Posted by: The Beltway GOP at May 22, 2013 06:49 AM (gqT4g)
The point should be made that Bush was remiss in appointing a Democrat. Which is true.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 06:49 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 22, 2013 10:48 AM (wbmaj)
And don't forget the pitchforks.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2013 06:49 AM (DrWcr)
Does Shulman have kids? Miller?
Threaten to force them to send their kids to public school in DC.
They'll sing like canaries.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 06:49 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 22, 2013 06:49 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Baldy at May 22, 2013 06:49 AM (tyDFN)
Posted by: SurferDoc at May 22, 2013 06:50 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 06:50 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: President For Life Obama at May 22, 2013 06:50 AM (B5y+v)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 22, 2013 06:51 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 10:50 AM (iYbLN)
Because
A) Cummings is a race-hustling asshat, and
B) See A
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 06:51 AM (4df7R)
My Nixonian fantasy is Barry and family boarding AF One, heading back to Chicago, and his saying "You won't have Barack Obama to kick around anymore."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 06:51 AM (lVPtV)
Threaten to force them to send their kids to public school in DC.
They'll sing like canaries.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at May 22, 2013 10:49 AM (4df7R)
I thought cruel and unusual punishment was unconstitutional.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2013 06:51 AM (DrWcr)
DRUDGE
Will this come up today?
I doubt it. Amnesty passed Senate review. Game over.
Posted by: Hunkered down at May 22, 2013 06:51 AM (Cs2tJ)
Posted by: SurferDoc at May 22, 2013 06:51 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 06:52 AM (iYbLN)
Bush couldn't even get a RINO through Congress; the Dems stonewalled every appointee.
Posted by: MWR
Then recess appointments or promote an interim to run out the clock.
Republicans really need to stop nominating the other sides guys just because they can't stand to see an empty box on an org chart.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 22, 2013 06:52 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Baldy at May 22, 2013 06:52 AM (tyDFN)
The only people getting the incoherent subliminal message live inside the Beltway.
That sound you hear are people all over the country laughing at Democrats trying to make that connection. I bet they double-down and go full retard this Sunday.
Posted by: Marcus at May 22, 2013 06:52 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Valiant at May 22, 2013 06:53 AM (aFxlY)
The liberal site Outside the Beltway had a link over at BadBlue that said:
Invoking the Fifth Amendment isn't evidence of wrongdoing.
I went over there and edumacated them, just a bit. So did a few others.
It was fun to drop a turd in the Leftards punchbowl. I might do that a little more often.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 22, 2013 06:53 AM (+z4pE)
My Nixonian fantasy is Barry and family boarding AF One, heading back to Chicago, and his saying "You won't have Barack Obama to kick around anymore."
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Jane it's going to be an interesting summer, a long hot one. I am so glad I will be unemployed and I can enjoy the hearings with much popcorn and a cool beverage of my choice.
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 06:53 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2013 10:51 AM (DrWcr)
If they protest, they can suck my nonexistent cock while being fucked up the ass with a decorative pineapple centerpiece made of razor wire.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 06:53 AM (4df7R)
A) Cummings is a race-hustling asshat, and
B) See A
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at May 22, 2013 10:51 AM (4df7R)
I giggled.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 06:53 AM (BAS5M)
Look at the optics and smugness of her response. If that does not get her fired and prosecuted, nothing will.
I find your innocence amusing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 22, 2013 06:54 AM (zF6Iw)
Martha Stewart went to federal prison for a lot less and served her time. This bitch, Lois Lerner, will get a pass. Pisses. Me. Off.
Word.
Posted by: Conrad Black at May 22, 2013 06:54 AM (NF2Bf)
Posted by: rickl at May 22, 2013 06:54 AM (zoehZ)
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 06:54 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 22, 2013 06:55 AM (XYSwB)
Look at the optics and smugness of her response. If that does not get her fired and prosecuted, nothing will.
Posted by: Marcus
Oh, Summer Child....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 22, 2013 06:55 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 06:55 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: hello, it's me Donna at May 22, 2013 06:55 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: lincolntf at May 22, 2013 06:55 AM (ZshNr)
B) See A"
Thanks to the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act, a.k.a. the Eternally Safe Districts For Race-Hustling Asshats Act, we'll be enjoying the various Cumming types of Capitol Hill for many years yet to come.
Oh, and on whose watch was the VRA reauthorized?
That of George W. Bush. Who has far more to answer for than just Shulman.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 22, 2013 06:55 AM (gqT4g)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 22, 2013 10:55 AM (XYSwB)
"Hopefully he brought a spare pair of pants like I told him to!"
-Al Roker
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 06:56 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 22, 2013 06:56 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 22, 2013 06:56 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at May 22, 2013 06:56 AM (fzFF6)
Posted by: hello, it's me Donna at May 22, 2013 10:55 AM (9+ccr)
She made an opening statement....and her only answer to the few questions Issa asked, was 'I refuse to answer......'.
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 22, 2013 06:56 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 06:56 AM (aDwsi)
========
For some reason the scene from "Goodfellas" where Henry gets arrested for the first time is now stuck in my mind.
Posted by: Nighthawk at May 22, 2013 06:56 AM (OtQXp)
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 10:53 AM (iYbLN
Thanks for reminding me to buy popcorn when I go out!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 06:56 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 22, 2013 06:56 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 06:56 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 22, 2013 06:56 AM (XYSwB)
This is absolutely unsurprising. All of Barry's underlings know that this isn't over. "Firing" the guy who was resigning in two weeks anyway didn't whet anyone's appetite for blood.
Somebody is going to be without a chair when the music stops. They know it won't be Barry. Expect to see more of these clowns clam up and plead the 5th.
The only thing that really pisses me off is how the bureacracy is so rife with libtard moonbats, that there isn't a single one of them that will blow the fucking whistle.
Because they don't think there's anything wrong with abusing their position to fight Teh Evil Teabaggerz. Fuck all of these government drones. Time to bulldoze them all into a pit and burn them with fucking gasoline.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 22, 2013 06:57 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: Your Betters In Government at May 22, 2013 06:57 AM (Ktume)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 06:57 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 22, 2013 06:57 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Mainah at May 22, 2013 06:57 AM (659DL)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at May 22, 2013 10:53 AM (4df7R)
Oh my. *fans self*
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2013 06:57 AM (DrWcr)
What is the IRS policy for a taxpayer who says he did nothing wrong and then refuses to answer their questions?
Posted by: @JohnTant at May 22, 2013 06:57 AM (eytER)
Jane it's going to be an interesting summer, a long
hot one.
Full of rioting youths in Chicago... Miami... Philadelphia...
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 06:57 AM (4df7R)
that's a new one
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 22, 2013 10:56 AM (8sCoq)
Seriously? He SERIOUSLY said that?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 06:58 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel
Well in Shulman's defense the line at Starbucks was really, really long.
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 06:58 AM (iYbLN)
Congratulations Lois. A graduation present.
- Why? I got pinched.
- Everyone does. You did it right. You told them nothing.
- I thought you'd be mad.
-I'm not mad, I'm proud of you.You took your first pinch like a man, and learned the two greatest things in life.
Look at me. Never rat on your friends...
...and always keep your mouth shut.
Here he is!
You broke your cherry!
Congratulations!
Posted by: President Barack Obama at May 22, 2013 10:28 AM (SO2Q
In short, never choose your country over me.
Posted by: gracepmc at May 22, 2013 06:58 AM (rznx3)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at May 22, 2013 10:53 AM (4df7R)
::: swoon ::::
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 22, 2013 06:58 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 06:58 AM (aDwsi)
Please refer to comment # 300.
Posted by: Your Betters In Government at May 22, 2013 06:59 AM (Ktume)
My Nixonian fantasy is Barry and family boarding AF One, heading back to
Chicago, and his saying "You won't have Barack Obama to kick around
anymore."
---
He resigns the presidency, he can walk back to chicago. That's MY plane
Posted by: Joey B at May 22, 2013 07:00 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 22, 2013 07:00 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: RiverC at May 22, 2013 07:00 AM (El+h4)
With scandal swirling about the White House, First Lady Michelle Obama may be considering an extended exit from Washington this summer, fleeing for weeks to the ObamasÂ’ traditional summer haven, MarthaÂ’s Vineyard.
According to the Boston Globe, “Michelle Obama and the children may be on the island for an extended period.” But the president would hardly be suffering by comparison. He may come up on weekends and then stay for two weeks at the end of the summer, the Globe reports.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 07:00 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: torquewrench at May 22, 2013 10:55 AM (gqT4g)
Bush has to answer for the VRC that was passed in 1965? Damn I did not know he was that evil.
Posted by: polynikes at May 22, 2013 07:00 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 22, 2013 07:00 AM (5TFvk)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Oh Jane, we are going to have much fun together....
Is Mica wearing a really bad toupee? It looks like a dead squirrel.
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 07:00 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: @JohnTant
-----------------------
Seizure of property, jail.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:00 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: JustNo at May 22, 2013 07:00 AM (CYFgk)
" I have no memory of having knowledge..."
That's got to be in the top five of all-time weaselly statements. Good grief.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2013 07:00 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: SurferDoc at May 22, 2013 07:00 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 22, 2013 07:01 AM (8sCoq)
Per ABC. Now Speed Bump's buddy was killed because the FBI agent "felt threatened". Weirdness.
That was what I woke up to this morning. The weird part was, that was down here, and that guy was shot in a complex where I once had friends.
The details are rather sketchy, but it would appear that the guy was also on the FBI's Terror Watch list.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 22, 2013 07:01 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: eman at May 22, 2013 07:01 AM (SXsuy)
Posted by: Baldy at May 22, 2013 07:01 AM (tyDFN)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:01 AM (aDwsi)
21 June
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 22, 2013 07:01 AM (sbV1u)
Invoking the fifth by a public employee needs to result in removal.
Posted by: Kristophr at May 22, 2013 07:01 AM (wYVte)
This was very weak of Issa. She waived her right to not incriminating herself when she said she was not guilty.
You can either plead not guilty or plead the 5th. You can't do both.
She either needs to answer or go to jail.
I guess Issa needs the Democrats to agree to put her in jail? I don't understand why she was allowed to walk.
He did mention immunity. Maybe she is ready to roll on the Whitehouse?
I don't know why a bunch of scapegoats can't get together and roll on the Whitehouse. If they can bring them down the Whitehouse can't hurt them or us anymore!!!
Posted by: petunia at May 22, 2013 07:01 AM (DAcBA)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 22, 2013 07:01 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 07:02 AM (BAS5M)
What is the IRS policy for a taxpayer who says he did nothing wrong and then refuses to answer their questions?
Just to depress you a bit more at the way of the World:
In a case before the Tax Court, between the IRS and a taxpayer, the Court presumes that the IRS's determination is correct. This presumption shifts the burden of proof to the taxpayer to prove that the determination is in error.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 22, 2013 07:02 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 22, 2013 11:00 AM (CJjw5)
lol!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 07:02 AM (4df7R)
You can't selectively invoke the 5th Amendment, testifying on topics that exculpate you while refusing to testify on topics that incriminate you.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 22, 2013 07:03 AM (Ktume)
For some reason the scene from "Goodfellas" where Henry gets arrested for the first time is now stuck in my mind.
---
See comment #112
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 22, 2013 07:03 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Mainah at May 22, 2013 07:03 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 07:03 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at May 22, 2013 07:03 AM (qFpRI)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 22, 2013 07:03 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:03 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Honorable Costanza-Shulman at May 22, 2013 07:04 AM (eHIJJ)
>>>in my experience, arched eyebrows and wide eyes are an indicator of deception
"Gosh, wow, how'd my penis get in your wife?"
Posted by: Bigby's Gunpowder Burnt Hands at May 22, 2013 07:04 AM (3ZtZW)
They appear to be having a Car-B-Que in Stockholm. Apparently, the police shot a guy who attacked them with a machete. Guess who is rioting? Go ahead...guess...
I bet it's those nasty, violent Asians! Watch out, they know Kung Fu! Are they karate chopping the cars?
Posted by: runningrn at May 22, 2013 07:04 AM (PLOz8)
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 10:58 AM (iYbLN)
Amazing.
Does that rank above or below "I was for it before I was against it" in Top Ten Mealy-Mouthed Weasel Answers?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 07:04 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 22, 2013 07:04 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Ch3cooh at May 22, 2013 07:05 AM (SJMKC)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 22, 2013 07:05 AM (VtjlW)
Bush has to answer for the VRC that was passed in 1965? Damn I did not know he was that evil.
Posted by: polynikes
The Voting Rights Act has a sunset clause. It has to be renewed at intervals.
Thanks to Bush and Team Republican it was.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 22, 2013 07:05 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 11:02 AM (lVPtV)
At least I was nice this time. I chose to employ a DECORATIVE centerpiece. I am not Jigsaw; if they're going to suffer, they can at least do so in style.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 07:05 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at May 22, 2013 07:06 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 11:02 AM (BAS5M)
That was funny!
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 22, 2013 07:06 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Mainah at May 22, 2013 07:06 AM (659DL)
----------------
The IRS exempts their own advice as a determining authority, i.e, "Oh, did we tell you that? Well, we were wrong. Here is a list of your penalties and interest."
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:06 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: RWC at May 22, 2013 07:06 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: hello, it's me Donna at May 22, 2013 07:06 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 22, 2013 07:06 AM (UypUQ)
I bet it's those nasty, violentAsians! Watch out, they know Kung Fu! Are they karate chopping the cars?
It was funky Billy Chin and little Sammy Chon. They said, "Here comes the big boss! Let's get it on!"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 22, 2013 07:06 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at May 22, 2013 10:53 AM (4df7R)
Hey Master Chief, suck my dick.
Posted by: GI Jane aka MWR at May 22, 2013 07:06 AM (DZqR0)
I just caught the tail end of it. I don't know if Gowdy has a leg to stand on, but he was awesome, whether he does or not. At least somebody's giving these statist bastards some s**t.
Much is being made of Obamagrunt's statement. All I've seen is her claiming she didn't break any laws (and who would say that they HAD?) and that her lawyer said she should clam up. Was there more?
Posted by: Optimizer at May 22, 2013 07:07 AM (Mxt9o)
----------------
"..fellow travelers."
Exactly
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:07 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 07:07 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: eman at May 22, 2013 07:07 AM (SXsuy)
She is 100% innocent, but any question about her job would tend to incriminate her. She's the Nidal Hasan of the IRS. Wonder how much she makes from us from now on for being a Stasi apparatchik?
That hearing was surreal.
Posted by: Beagle at May 22, 2013 07:07 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Ch3cooh at May 22, 2013 07:07 AM (SJMKC)
Posted by: hello, it's me Donna at May 22, 2013 07:07 AM (9+ccr)
If Mahoney were my only option, I'd castrate myself.
Posted by: Old Glazier at May 22, 2013 07:07 AM (CYFrP)
Already done.
Same with Cochran and AtC
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 22, 2013 07:08 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: runningrn at May 22, 2013 11:04 AM (PLOz
ass sucking muslims?
what do I win?
Posted by: Berserker at May 22, 2013 07:08 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 22, 2013 11:00 AM (CJjw5)
Welcome to the line. You may find yourself to the back of it.
Posted by: GI Jane aka MWR at May 22, 2013 07:08 AM (DZqR0)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 22, 2013 07:08 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Fritz at May 22, 2013 07:09 AM (UzPAd)
Shut the government down until she is fired. This is too important to allow to slide for the convenience of RINOs like Boehner.
Invoking the fifth by a public employee needs to result in removal.
---
Mr. President. I would be very unhappy if this happened. Unhappy people sometimes make bad choices. Unhappy people sometimes complain publically.
just sayin...
and i could use a better parking spot. now.
Posted by: Lois Lerner at May 22, 2013 07:09 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Ch3cooh at May 22, 2013 11:07 AM (SJMKC)
So THAT'S what shot JR!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 07:09 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 22, 2013 07:09 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 22, 2013 07:09 AM (zA7Zp)
yet allowed the harassment of other for being political, and said they didn't Have to get exempt status?
really?
Posted by: willow at May 22, 2013 07:09 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:09 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Old Glazier at May 22, 2013 11:07 AM
No shit, she can make a freight train take a dirt road.
Posted by: Berserker at May 22, 2013 07:09 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Fritz at May 22, 2013 11:09 AM (UzPAd)
Breaking on the wheel.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2013 07:09 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 22, 2013 07:10 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:10 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 22, 2013 10:09 AM (QXlbZ)
Are you suggesting that LIV's watch C-SPAN?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at May 22, 2013 07:10 AM (hLRSq)
I wanna send him a $20 gift card from Super Cuts so he can get a decent haircut
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 22, 2013 11:04 AM (8sCoq
I love the guy, but no kidding. The hair.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 07:10 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 22, 2013 11:08 AM (VtjlW)
Oh... God... The silver tiger... the wine glasses... THE WHITE TREE... THE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE TREE...
*curled up in a fetal position, weeping*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 07:10 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: The boomers at May 22, 2013 07:10 AM (pzLMj)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 22, 2013 07:10 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 22, 2013 07:10 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:11 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: H Badger at May 22, 2013 07:11 AM (n/0Nw)
Moron lifestyle?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 22, 2013 11:10 AM (/PCJa)
Not unless it's Val-u-Rite induced.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2013 07:11 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: loves the word 'cogent' at May 22, 2013 07:11 AM (mV5Rx)
The IRS exempts their own advice as a determining authority, i.e, "Oh, did we tell you that? Well, we were wrong. Here is a list of your penalties and interest."
Posted by: Mike Hammer
For errors, you have to pay taxes owed and interest, but penalties can be mitigated. Having proof the IRS gave you bum advice would help there.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 22, 2013 07:11 AM (kdS6q)
*curled up in a fetal position, weeping*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at May 22, 2013 11:10 AM (4df7R
The Sunset Clambake!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 07:11 AM (lVPtV)
He doesn't recollect anything.
Posted by: Tami at May 22, 2013 11:09 AM (X6akg)
Another pet resembling its master, Obama. With Carney it's the personality; with Shulman apparently it's work ethic.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 07:11 AM (4df7R)
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Nothing that an airbrush here and there...
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:11 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 22, 2013 07:12 AM (zA7Zp)
Can we bring back flaying and boiling oil as legitimate punishments?
Posted by: Fritz at May 22, 2013 11:09 AM (UzPAd)
Ooh... I just felt something DOWN THERE.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 07:12 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Honorable Costanza-Shulman at May 22, 2013 07:12 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at May 22, 2013 07:12 AM (fzFF6)
If you were watching all of these scandals plus amnesty going on in another country, what would you be telling a friend who lives there?
Personally, I'd be saying 'wake up, they really are closing in. come to the US I will help you get settled'
Posted by: Bigby's Gunpowder Burnt Hands at May 22, 2013 07:12 AM (3ZtZW)
I wish the lib who used to draw Doonesbury was alive to see this.
Posted by: loves the word 'cogent'
Psst - Garry Trudeau is still alive.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 22, 2013 07:13 AM (kdS6q)
*curled up in a fetal position, weeping*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at May 22, 2013 11:10 AM (4df7R
The Sunset Clambake!
The horror of cherry pie and ice cream...., oh the humanity!
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:13 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at May 22, 2013 07:13 AM (UU0OF)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 11:11 AM (lVPtV)
ARRRRAG:LIUA:LKJERGH!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 22, 2013 07:13 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Lady in Black (I haven't read all the comments yet, but....) at May 22, 2013 07:13 AM (ovWeo)
You would think they would defend it?
If it wasn't illegal? or the use of their office to initimidate others wasn't illegal?
Posted by: willow at May 22, 2013 07:13 AM (nqBYe)
"374 ... She answered something about the IG report didn't she?"
Maybe I did miss stuff then. I just saw a replay of her statement, so maybe it wasn't the whole thing.
Posted by: Optimizer at May 22, 2013 07:14 AM (Mxt9o)
Posted by: Hunkered down at May 22, 2013 11:11 AM
Why do most dem women look like they comb their hair with firecrackers?
Posted by: Berserker at May 22, 2013 07:14 AM (FMbng)
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And will make a mockery of this...., because Tredeau
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:14 AM (aDwsi)
It is absolutely amazing how many 'clothing and other items' donations I have been making over the last few years. Maximize rebate, lower taxes - its a thing. I learned it from you Daddy Govt, I learned it from you.
Got a get me one of them bamaphones next.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 22, 2013 07:14 AM (jKWYf)
Subtext: "We got Obama re-elected..., nyanh, nynah, nynah
'
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:15 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Berserker at May 22, 2013 07:15 AM (FMbng)
(or that they were caught) 27 mths later ?
I'm sorry but i didn't stop the tactics
Posted by: willow at May 22, 2013 07:16 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 07:16 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 22, 2013 07:16 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:17 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: [/i]An Observation at May 22, 2013 07:17 AM (ylhEn)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Jane,
I thought about sending him me, in a cake, naked.
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 07:17 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:18 AM (aDwsi)
and i would ask If the asking what they prayed about was a violation of religion and state?
Posted by: willow at May 22, 2013 07:18 AM (nqBYe)
she authenticated her statement to the IG
her statement to the IG was NOT under oath
Today she WAS under oath
she affirmed that that was the statement she gave to the IG today, while she WAS under oath
tricky lawyers on committee may have tripped he up by having her affirm her statement to the IG while she was under oath today
Posted by: thunderb at May 22, 2013 07:18 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 07:19 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Ch3cooh at May 22, 2013 07:19 AM (SJMKC)
Posted by: RWC at May 22, 2013 07:19 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at May 22, 2013 07:19 AM (7ObY1)
'This administration, this agency, the very agency charged with enforcing Obamacare, systematically targeted groups that came into existence because they opposed Obamacare - and they started the targeting the very month, March 2010, that Obamacare came into law - expects us to believe it is the work of ‘two rogue agents.'
Posted by: Jim Jordan (R-OH) at May 22, 2013 07:19 AM (DZqR0)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 22, 2013 07:20 AM (zA7Zp)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 22, 2013 07:20 AM (da5Wo)
Thanks to Bush and Team Republican it was.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 22, 2013 11:05 AM (kdS6q)
I guess Reagan gets a pass on this too?
Posted by: polynikes at May 22, 2013 07:20 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 07:21 AM (lVPtV)
the very agency charged with enforcing Obamacare, systematically targeted groups that came into
existence because they opposed Obamacare - and they started the
targeting the very month, March 2010, that Obamacare came into law -
expects us to believe it is the work of ‘two rogue agents.'
Posted by: Jim Jordan (R-OH) at May 22, 2013 11:19 AM (DZqR0)
If they were burning cars and such, then I think he meant "2 rogue Asians". Yutes, seriously, you guys!
Posted by: runningrn at May 22, 2013 07:21 AM (PLOz8)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 22, 2013 11:20 AM (da5Wo)
Christ on the cross, Cochran... why?!
Posted by: Jim Jordan (R-OH) at May 22, 2013 07:21 AM (DZqR0)
Posted by: Madamex at May 22, 2013 07:22 AM (OwZcP)
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Lerner: "WTF!"
Attorney: "Uh, I may have made an error."
Lerner: "Error! Error! WTF do you mean 'error'?"
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:22 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 22, 2013 07:22 AM (UypUQ)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at May 22, 2013 07:23 AM (fzFF6)
After she reads her statement where she asserts her innocence and pleads the 5thÂ…
Issa saysÂ…OKÂ…We understand that, say would you mind just authenticating whether this IG transcript is we received last night isÂ…authenticÂ…WeÂ’d really appreciate that..if you donÂ’t mind.
All lawyer chummyÂ…very polite.
Well I havenÂ’t seen that she replies.
Issa saysÂ…Oh so sorryÂ…here hand this to her so she can authenticate it please.
She bit.
It looked to me like a cross examination and response.
Looked like a nifty trap to meÂ…and Gowdy saw that too.
MaybeÂ…Gowdy spoke out but was really talking to her lawyerÂ…Cause she screwed up her 5th pleading both in the opening statement and responding to IssaÂ’s innocuous request for authentication of evidence related to the investigation.
If I were her lawyerÂ…IÂ’d try and convince her to cut a deal and spill the beans.
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From same blog: "That was the smoothest, slickest and understated way to get a witness to break their 5th Amendment right not to answer that I have ever seen. Usually its just a bunch of table pounding, making points, etc., but he did it in the good old ‘could you just confirm that this is what you said to the IG?’ So nice. So sweet. That rug disappeared faster than the eye could see."
Posted by: frode at May 22, 2013 07:23 AM (8z3Pa)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 07:24 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 22, 2013 07:24 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 22, 2013 07:24 AM (zA7Zp)
Are dems attempting to make all of the blame stick to Shulman?
Yes, cause BOOOOOOSHHHH!!!!
Barky even set the table for that last week--"someone my predecessor appointed" or something of that ilk.
Posted by: runningrn at May 22, 2013 07:24 AM (PLOz8)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:24 AM (aDwsi)
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Maybe I'll see Lerner there celebrating.Posted by: RWC at May 22, 2013 07:25 AM (fWAjv)
basis...501c4 had two options
shulman, apply or start operating.conservative groups.. were not the only ones getting these questions
shulman ,are questions asked legitimate .. no impression these were only asked of conservative groups.
congressman you advocated responsibitly, didn't clarify you mislead us
Posted by: willow at May 22, 2013 07:25 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 22, 2013 07:25 AM (zA7Zp)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 22, 2013 11:24 AM (da5Wo)
No, I've seen it. I just didn't need to re-see the bladed didlo of ass-poundy death
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 22, 2013 07:26 AM (DZqR0)
that is why they agree to this.
but what type of legislation would also be included? at this point i trust non of them any longer.
Posted by: willow at May 22, 2013 07:27 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 07:30 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at May 22, 2013 07:31 AM (Up4f+)
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at May 22, 2013 07:31 AM (vVMIQ)
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 22, 2013 07:31 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 07:33 AM (iYbLN)
Paints it as mere incompetence. Shields WH
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:33 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Prefounder at May 22, 2013 11:32 AM (tLjUQ)
The lady on Airplane!
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 07:33 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:34 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at May 22, 2013 07:34 AM (vVMIQ)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 22, 2013 07:34 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Prefounder at May 22, 2013 07:35 AM (tLjUQ)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 07:35 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: gracepmc at May 22, 2013 07:35 AM (rznx3)
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 11:34 AM (iYbLN)
*holding back snicker while at work*
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 22, 2013 07:35 AM (UypUQ)
She has never had a complete thought in her entire life.
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 07:36 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: DemocRat bureaucRats are impossible to remove. at May 22, 2013 07:36 AM (OoZ/2)
Posted by: Ma Bell at May 22, 2013 07:36 AM (RLdcX)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 07:36 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: CliveClone at May 22, 2013 07:37 AM (WNtTX)
Posted by: jerry's kid at May 22, 2013 07:37 AM (b7TR8)
I can tell. I'm an Irish-Jewish gypsy I can see things.
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 07:38 AM (iYbLN)
Not sure he read any of the 132 inquiries from Congress.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:38 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: jerry's kid
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Crap! Coffee spew....
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:39 AM (aDwsi)
You must be a lot of fun at parties. Posted by: Sean Bannion
Why yes I am.
takes a bow
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 07:39 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Ma Bell at May 22, 2013 07:40 AM (RLdcX)
Jordan is roasting the guy...
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:41 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at May 22, 2013 07:41 AM (fzFF6)
Cochran! Bring the video cam to NoVAMoMee! And about 400 lbs of Jell-O too!
Lime flavor, please.
It's sexier.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 22, 2013 07:41 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 22, 2013 07:42 AM (UypUQ)
Posted by: EveR at May 22, 2013 07:42 AM (pPOhx)
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 07:42 AM (iYbLN)
No.
The size is deceptive, but it's actually so dense it has its own gravitational pull
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 22, 2013 07:43 AM (sbV1u)
What a lying shit weasel.
Posted by: [/i]An Observation at May 22, 2013 07:43 AM (ylhEn)
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 22, 2013 07:43 AM (UypUQ)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 07:43 AM (BAS5M)
The size is deceptive, but it's actually so dense it has its own gravitational pull
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We should order a high carbon steel one then. Thanks.
Posted by: Hunkered down at May 22, 2013 07:44 AM (Cs2tJ)
Any enjoying the irony...
Lois as a member of the government asserts she did nothing wrong. Yet claims her 5th ammendment silence right.
So while she did nothing wrong, she still fears some kind of illegitimate prosecution by the very government she is a high ranking number of.
And she would certainly be in a position to know if the government were capable of it.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 22, 2013 07:44 AM (SO2Q8)
Shulman is reminding me of a five year old, face covered in melty chocolate from ear to ear, wrapper at his feet.... proclaiming "I dont remember any Hershey bar".
Posted by: fixerupper at May 22, 2013 07:44 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Prefounder at May 22, 2013 07:45 AM (tLjUQ)
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 07:46 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 22, 2013 07:47 AM (UypUQ)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 07:47 AM (BAS5M)
what does that have to do with any of this at this point?
They didn't have an influx , as was already stated last week.
t .
Conolly again- rogue element.
bah.
Posted by: willow at May 22, 2013 07:47 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 22, 2013 07:48 AM (UypUQ)
Shulman is reminding me of a five year old, face covered in melty chocolate from ear to ear, wrapper at his feet.... proclaiming "I dont remember any Hershey bar".
Posted by: fixerupper
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Lipstick? I haven't seen your lipstick. Why do you ask : http://larrysfunnybone.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Dog-lipstick.jpg
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:48 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 07:48 AM (iYbLN)
With scandal swirling about the White House, First Lady Michelle Obama may be considering an extended exit from Washington this summer, fleeing for weeks to the ObamasÂ’ traditional summer haven, MarthaÂ’s Vineyard.
Bailing on Bronco.
Posted by: Hunkered down at May 22, 2013 07:49 AM (Cs2tJ)
Posted by: willow at May 22, 2013 07:49 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Lando's BFG at May 22, 2013 07:50 AM (hzSVV)
Posted by: gracepmc at May 22, 2013 07:51 AM (rznx3)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 22, 2013 07:51 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 22, 2013 07:51 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 07:52 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 22, 2013 07:52 AM (da5Wo)
careful careful he wil get sad again.
Oh goodie he just gave himself a participation trophy no grade.
Posted by: Prefounder at May 22, 2013 07:53 AM (tLjUQ)
Posted by: mpfs, LLE at May 22, 2013 07:54 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at May 22, 2013 07:54 AM (1hM1d)
i really don't know!
not that i'm aware of!
someone somewhere might know , But i'm not aware.
Posted by: willow at May 22, 2013 07:56 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at May 22, 2013 07:56 AM (fzFF6)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 07:56 AM (BAS5M)
Any suggestions then?
Is there a Manischewitz-flavored Jell-O?
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 22, 2013 07:57 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Prefounder at May 22, 2013 08:00 AM (tLjUQ)
Posted by: Old Glazier at May 22, 2013 08:00 AM (CYFrP)
You had a duty to find out what was going on in the Cincinnati.
Posted by: [/i]An Observation at May 22, 2013 08:00 AM (ylhEn)
Posted by: Baldy at May 22, 2013 08:02 AM (tyDFN)
Posted by: T. at May 22, 2013 08:03 AM (QiTx3)
Posted by: Prefounder at May 22, 2013 08:06 AM (tLjUQ)
Posted by: Prefounder at May 22, 2013 12:06 PM (tLjUQ)
BHO will have him arrested as soon as he re-enters the country.
Posted by: Hunkered down at May 22, 2013 08:07 AM (Cs2tJ)
Posted by: AltonJackson@work at May 22, 2013 08:09 AM (1EUmb)
Posted by: willow at May 22, 2013 08:09 AM (nqBYe)
Cartwright: So no harm no foul, right?
IG: Right
Shulman: What the IG said
Treasury: What the IG said
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2013 08:17 AM (BAS5M)
We just focused all of our non-work on them.
Posted by: TFG at May 22, 2013 08:20 AM (EsxAc)
Posted by: rockhead at May 22, 2013 08:45 AM (jtTKf)
Did she waive the privilege against self-incrimination?
When she was giving her big speech about not doing anything wrong, was she under oath at that time?
Posted by: AMartel at May 22, 2013 09:00 AM (1Bqk7)
Posted by: creeper at May 22, 2013 09:51 AM (cDytO)
Posted by: olhardhead at May 22, 2013 11:10 AM (OZkuA)
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