January 14, 2013
— Gabriel Malor The second stage of the House's likely passage of bloated, "off-budget emergency spending" unrelated to the Sandy weather event will take place tomorrow. The bill has been cut into two parts so as to provide reluctant conservatives cover for passage of the pork-fest.
The first part is House Appropriations Chairman Rogers Sandy Supplemental bill, HR 152 as amended. This is the one that conservatives get to vote for, but it's far from perfect. HR 152 (including Rogers' amendment) clocks in at $17 billion. It includes:
- $3 million for oil spill research;
- $25 million for the failed Head Start daycare program; and
- $3.9 billion for a new HUD disaster program.
None of these should be off-budget expenses. They are in no way "emergency" or even one-time expenses. The new HUD program is particularly egregious, since, as you know, few federal programs are ever shuttered once created. Look for the program to get continued funding in March's budget proposals.
And that's just the "clean," conservative-friendly bill. Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen (R-N.J.) will move to amend the bill to add enough pork to buy the votes needed for passage. The amendment adds another $33.67 billion to the price tag, including for such inappropriate spending as:
- $16 billion for HUD to spend on any disaster "emergency" that was declared in 2011 and 2012, and any that will be declared in 2013 (meaning in 47 states plus Puerto Rico at the moment).
- $2.02 billion for Federal Highway Administration to spend on roads first in Connecticut, North Carolina, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, and Virginia whether they need Sandy-related repairs or not and then elsewhere in the country as FHA chooses;
- $561 million for the Corps of Engineers to spend outside of areas affected by Sandy, including $10 million for a national Water Resources Priorities Study;
- $100 million for Head Start;
- $86 million for AMTRAK on non-Sandy capital improvements;
- $40 million for military base repair and maintence, which includes spending for Guantanamo Bay;
- $25 million for NOAA to improve weather forecasting;
- $10 million for FBI salaries and expenses; and
- $2 million for Smithsonian roof repairs.
Once again, we see things that should be part of the regular budget (or, to be sure, cut from the regular budget) being slipped into off-budget "emergency" spending, like AMTRAK capital improvements, improved NOAA weather forecasting, Head Start funding, and FBI salaries.
Rep. Frelinghuysen's vote-buying scheme radically exceeds even the unconscionable proposals of President Obama and the Senate. The FHA road spending is $1.7 billion more than the President asked for and $1.1 billion more than the Senate passed. And the total Corps of Engineers spending is $166 million more than the President asked for.
These non-Sandy relief bills should be voted down. I could support a bill to aid the region hurt by superstorm Sandy. This pork-laden monstrosity is not that bill.
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Posted by: tsrblke at January 14, 2013 06:15 AM (GaqMa)
Put forth a clean bill.
North Dakota should not be forced to pay for cleanup in New Jersey.
Just as New Jersey shouldn't be forced to pay to cleanup New Orleans.
This is a hill to die on!
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 14, 2013 06:16 AM (RrD4h)
Posted by: DeeCee at January 14, 2013 06:21 AM (n5IHi)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 14, 2013 06:21 AM (yiIja)
Posted by: The guy from Pennsylvania at January 14, 2013 06:22 AM (SgWU/)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 06:23 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: polynikes at January 14, 2013 06:25 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 06:25 AM (kLs5Y)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 06:26 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Rep. Pork P. Porkulus at January 14, 2013 06:26 AM (o44nj)
I could support a bill to aid the region hurt by superstorm Sandy. .
I CAN'T.
1. I don't live there.
2. I don't have relatives that live there.
3. I don't own property there.
4. I am not resposible for it.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 14, 2013 06:26 AM (kWFP3)
Frankly, I'd love it if the House members from Louisiana go on the floor of Congress and ask "Why do we need to rebuild the Jersey shore?", given the vitrol directed at Louisiana after Katrina by various members of Congress.
And I'd love it if *anyone* would go before a camera and explain all the unecessary spending in this bill, say that's why they won't vote for it, and challenge congresscritters to write a clean bill.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 14, 2013 06:27 AM (yiIja)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 06:27 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 06:27 AM (znavB)
This should be a PR no-brainer for fiscal conservatives. "Hey, we're broke. If we're going to pitch in on Sandy, let's keep it to Sandy and do it in tranches."
I can't tell if we're blowing the PR or the media is censoring common sense yet again.
Posted by: spongeworthy at January 14, 2013 06:28 AM (r5w1L)
All "pork" threads must include bacon in some manner.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 14, 2013 06:28 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 06:29 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 06:29 AM (znavB)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wilde Wrepublican Wench at January 14, 2013 06:29 AM (KC0r9)
Posted by: steveegg at January 14, 2013 06:29 AM (o44nj)
Well not sure about that. Federal Disaster relief is not wrong when done properly. It is a legit function of the Federal Gov.
Explain, please.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 14, 2013 06:29 AM (kWFP3)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 06:31 AM (kLs5Y)
I'd pay $86 million to have AMTRAK convert all their trains to have gigantic smiling faces like Thomas The Tank Engine.
Posted by: EC at January 14, 2013 06:31 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 14, 2013 06:31 AM (kWFP3)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 06:32 AM (znavB)
Galveston after Ike appeared to be ten times worse than the Jersey Shore. Where the hell was my relief bill that included upgrades to my favorite Houston golf courses!!!
Posted by: polynikes at January 14, 2013 06:33 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at January 14, 2013 06:33 AM (ZWvOb)
Posted by: akula51 at January 14, 2013 06:33 AM (YesJa)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 06:33 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 14, 2013 10:31 AM (kWFP3)
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Not a disaster..... Im sure he'll bring your Jeep back.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 14, 2013 06:34 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: eman at January 14, 2013 06:35 AM (tBnjP)
Posted by: Eddie Murphy at January 14, 2013 06:36 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 06:36 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 06:36 AM (5DR1j)
Could go with a slice of cheesecake with raspberry sauce for a follow-up. o.0
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 14, 2013 06:36 AM (mrnos)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 06:37 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 06:37 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 06:38 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: spongeworthy at January 14, 2013 06:39 AM (r5w1L)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 06:39 AM (kLs5Y)
Posted by: eman at January 14, 2013 06:39 AM (tBnjP)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, High Priest of the Gods of the Copybook Headings at January 14, 2013 06:40 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2013 06:40 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: thunderb at January 14, 2013 06:41 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 06:41 AM (GVxQo)
So you're the guy!!!
Posted by: EC at January 14, 2013 06:41 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 06:42 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: eman at January 14, 2013 06:43 AM (tBnjP)
Randall's grocery had fully cooked baby back pork ribs, full rack , on sale for $5.00. Tasted as good or better than Chille's at 16.95 a rack or Houston's restaurant at 29.00 a rack.
Its almost a toss up which rack is better , boobies or pork. Boobies by the slimmest of margins.
Posted by: polynikes at January 14, 2013 06:43 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 06:44 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 14, 2013 06:44 AM (Lxw+T)
That's outrageous. @_@
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 14, 2013 06:44 AM (mrnos)
Posted by: eman at January 14, 2013 06:45 AM (tBnjP)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 06:45 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 06:46 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: eman at January 14, 2013 06:47 AM (tBnjP)
Posted by: spongeworthy at January 14, 2013 10:39 AM (r5w1L)
I seriously empathize with you but know that you really didn't expect the Feds to bail you out. Does that also exclude low interest loans?
Posted by: polynikes at January 14, 2013 06:47 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 06:47 AM (VtjlW)
The ones who manage to be born, despite the best efforts of the leftists to prevent that, except for the kids born to practicing Christian married couples because they're icky.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at City BBQ celebrating finding the bug that vexed me all Saturday.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is at work and hates everyone at January 14, 2013 06:47 AM (ZKzrr)
No it's not. That presupposes that all the land is the Federal Government's, just like "fair share" taxation presupposes all the money is the Federal Government's.
That land is (in order of highest to lowest probability)
- The State's (try not paying your property taxes to find out if the State owns your property or if you do)
- The City's (even if the State won't take your property, try the same trick with the City)
- The Individuals (some people really do own their property, including not having to pay property tax. They're rare).
Now, beyond that, there's the question of who is responsible for repairing damage to the property. The Federal Government, with few exceptions, is not a party to that equation at all. So who pays to fix it, the Owner or the Occupant?
In either case, it comes down to The State or City, or the Individual. In no case is it a "legitimate function of the Federal Government" to take money from me in Texas to provide "disaster relief" to New Jersey.
Semi-related: Please explain to the class why it is important that we have a "Federal" and not a "National" Government.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 06:48 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 14, 2013 06:48 AM (mrnos)
Posted by: eman at January 14, 2013 06:48 AM (tBnjP)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 06:50 AM (QidfK)
Now I want my wife to make me a cheesecake.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 06:50 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 06:50 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 06:50 AM (e0xKF)
Here is the left-wing president of the Chicago teachers union. An ugly, ugly woman. If the Right were as smart at politics as the Left, ordinary Americans would be talking about this:
“… Do not think for a minute that the wealthy are ever going to allow you to legislate their riches away from them. Please understand that. However, we are in a moment where the wealth disparity in this country is very reminiscent of the robber baron ages. The labor leaders of that time, though, were ready to kill. They were. They were just – off with their heads. They were seriously talking about that.”
Some in the audience laughed and clapped at her remark.
“I don’t think we’re at that point,” Lewis laughingly replied, without specifying when “that point” might arrive. “And that’s scary to most people. But the key is they think nothing of killing us. They think nothing of putting our people in harm’s way. They think nothing of lethal working conditions.”
"They think nothing of killing us." We'd be more successfully politically by drawing attention to Democrats like this than fretting over the latest Outrage in Congress.
Posted by: CJ at January 14, 2013 06:50 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 06:50 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 06:51 AM (e0xKF)
I hope you're proud of yourselves.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 06:51 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: eman at January 14, 2013 06:52 AM (tBnjP)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 14, 2013 06:52 AM (Lxw+T)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 06:53 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Obamacare at January 14, 2013 06:53 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 06:53 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 06:53 AM (QidfK)
I do not know exactly how I managed that. Once I made a rubber carrot cake, too. o0 It was simply unchewable, it bent, and deformed, but would not tear.
I'd patent the stuff, except that, like Jekyll's concotion, I suspect there was an impurity that made it possible in the first place, and I've not been able to replicate it since.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 14, 2013 06:54 AM (mrnos)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2013 06:54 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: The Bedbug In Your Mattress at January 14, 2013 06:54 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Jax Teller at January 14, 2013 06:54 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Obamaboro, Vt and Proud of it !!!!!!!!!! at January 14, 2013 06:54 AM (48wze)
Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2013 06:54 AM (/g5vp)
Posted by: Eaton Cox is kind of a LIBNO at January 14, 2013 06:55 AM (+wxCD)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 06:55 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: eman at January 14, 2013 10:47 AM (tBnjP)
--- Yes! And quadruple the amount of the pork so as to facilitate a quicker end.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 14, 2013 06:55 AM (R8hU8)
I hope you're proud of yourselves.
I showed B'Gal the Actual, Real Live Pork Post from yesterday morning. She told me about a show called The United States of Bacon on the Destination America channel.
We caught two episodes last night. I want bacon...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 14, 2013 06:56 AM (yiIja)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 10:47 AM (VtjlW)
There simply has to be a dirty joke in there.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 14, 2013 06:57 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: eman at January 14, 2013 10:52 AM (tBnjP)
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Well...... just how in the hell am I to build my constituencies then????
Posted by: Your Congresscritter at January 14, 2013 06:57 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 06:57 AM (kLs5Y)
The secret is in the water-bath.
Set your spring-form pan in a pretty big baking dish. Heat water to boiling, and pour it into said baking dish, until it comes about half-way up the side of the spring-form pan. Bake.
The water helps distribute the heat more evenly, resulting in creamier texture, but it's more energy dense, so it also helps prevent over-cooking (to some degree, it's not a fail-safe). It's important that the water be very, very hot (boiling or near boiling) when you place the cheesecake in the oven, though, or it will absorb too much of the heat, and prevent the cheesecake from cooking properly.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 06:58 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2013 06:58 AM (GFM2b)
73 AllenG has a blog while his wife makes cheesecakes to taunt us with.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 10:50 AM (QidfK)
He's a damn dirty 1%er!!!!!
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 14, 2013 06:59 AM (da5Wo)
Completely OT but reading the news this morning I am struck that when France decides to attack Islamist everyone loves it, but when we do we are racist or something.
Why do we continue the charade? We are in a war of religion, period. The religion of peace is behind EVERY problem in the world, except China's land grabs.
This has been going on for over a thousand years and will not stop until we stop them.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at January 14, 2013 06:59 AM (tWFaN)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 06:59 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2013 07:00 AM (/g5vp)
The water helps distribute the heat more evenly, resulting in creamier texture, but it's more energy dense, so it also helps prevent over-cooking (to some degree, it's not a fail-safe). It's important that the water be very, very hot (boiling or near boiling) when you place the cheesecake in the oven, though, or it will absorb too much of the heat, and prevent the cheesecake from cooking properly.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 10:58 AM (5DR1j)
o.o That would explain the exploding cake part. I am going to try that this weekend, thanks very much for the tip!! I always just set the pan inside the oven by itself . . . >_>
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 14, 2013 07:01 AM (mrnos)
Boone's Farms Strawberry Hill gives them a sweet yet slight sour taste. Pairs best with Private Stock 64oz.
Speaking of pairing, on the US of Bacon show last night, they were pairing bacon with beer.
What's left of my liver did a little dance when they showed that.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 14, 2013 07:01 AM (yiIja)
Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2013 11:00 AM (/g5vp)
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Oh crap.... almost forgot.
BRB.... gotta be holdin up permits.
Posted by: THE EPA at January 14, 2013 07:02 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: eman at January 14, 2013 07:02 AM (tBnjP)
"$40 million for military base repair and maintence, which includes spending for Guantanamo Bay;"
Probably smart. Everyone knows to put a fresh coat of paint and new cabinet knobs on a military base before flipping it.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 14, 2013 07:03 AM (kWFP3)
I would have to agree the organge MD 20/20 gives teh hobo a nice citruis farvor if not over cooked.
Has anyone mentioned brining? A hobo soaked in a salt brine will retain a lot of juices after baking or grilling. Use Kosher salt for your brine.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at January 14, 2013 07:03 AM (tWFaN)
Posted by: eman at January 14, 2013 11:02 AM (tBnjP)
Red states need to get on the gravy train while the dollar still has value.
Posted by: Invictus at January 14, 2013 07:03 AM (OQpzc)
We'll consider taking a majority vote on whether or not to conduct a study on whether or not we should use lube.
Posted by: Blue States at January 14, 2013 07:04 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2013 07:04 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 07:05 AM (8sCoq)
Rules are only for the Red States.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 07:05 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2013 07:06 AM (/g5vp)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2013 07:07 AM (gALTb)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at January 14, 2013 07:07 AM (UU0OF)
Unfortunately, few people give a rat's ass about the People's Republic of Chicago.
This isn't about Chicago. It was a labor speech. Labor. The folks who help kick our asses every election. She's a big ugly perfectly disgusting spokesperson for our enemies. We can't just shrug and 'no one cares about the venue in which she spoke.'
The Left would make us own such references to violence. Republicans would squirm. We give them a pass. We deserve to be losing this war.
Posted by: CJ at January 14, 2013 07:08 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 07:08 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Cricket at January 14, 2013 07:09 AM (DrC22)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 07:09 AM (VtjlW)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50436807#.UPQth2e8B8E
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 07:09 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 07:10 AM (QidfK)
The point of the "mean spirited generalizations" is not to say that everyone there is rich. It's to point out that the rich people who are their can (and by their own standard, should) be shelling out the money to pay for the repairs, not some middle class schmoe in Branson.
We're not begrudging them help, we're complaining about the Federal Government taking that money at the point of a gun.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 07:11 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 07:11 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2013 07:11 AM (sgNEe)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 07:12 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Cricket at January 14, 2013 07:12 AM (DrC22)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 07:12 AM (VtjlW)
Apropos of nothing, I hate nearly all of humanity (Horde excepted, natch)
My Queen, I shall instruct the printing shop to have a bumper sticker made that says, "The more I discover about people, the better I like my Velociraptors."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 14, 2013 07:12 AM (yiIja)
Yeah that's about the size of it. Some areas wouldn't even classify as middle class. Those are the people that need the help the most, they lost everything, and I mean everything. It was like a tsunami in some areas, it was just wiped clean.
Posted by: Berserker at January 14, 2013 07:12 AM (FMbng)
good thing he's a cutiePosted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 07:13 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2013 07:14 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 11:12 AM (VtjlW)
Now wait a minute, what did the jews ever do to you?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 14, 2013 07:14 AM (da5Wo)
For NJ and NY additional Sandy Pork - Zero
For AMTRAC not only zero from 6this but all other funding cut to Zero
For Oil spill crap - Zero
For Head Start - zero here and defund ALL of the program, the only head start they need is a running start for the grifters administering the program
For HUD - A jail cell
For highways in a few "lucky States" - Zero
For Smithsonian - Use your current budget which is supposed to cover that
Same for Pentagon
Net for here zero, net for all a $500B budget cut
Posted by: Vic at January 14, 2013 07:14 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 07:15 AM (kLs5Y)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 07:15 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Matt Foley[/i] at January 14, 2013 07:16 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 14, 2013 07:16 AM (dZ756)
And their sob stories mean I should be forced (at the point of a gun, remember) to pay to rebuild for them... why again?
I'm sorry that they're poor. I'm sorry they "lost everything." I'm sorry that they live in that hell-hole called "New Jersey." None of that gives the Federal Government the right to take money from me, by force, and give it to them.
It's not charity if you don't have a choice. It's not charity to take from one person and give it to another. And the Government isn't capable of charity in any case.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 07:16 AM (5DR1j)
They bought flood insurance yes? If not, then it's not my problem.
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at January 14, 2013 07:17 AM (ZWvOb)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 07:17 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Nancy "Ms" Piggylosi at January 14, 2013 07:18 AM (0GJri)
Posted by: Cristi the Hutt at January 14, 2013 07:18 AM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2013 07:19 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 07:19 AM (5DR1j)
because the Govt doesn't have its own money. It has my money, your money, our money.
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 07:21 AM (8sCoq)
I'm sorry that they're poor. I'm sorry they "lost everything." I'm sorry that they live in that hell-hole called "New Jersey." None of that gives the Federal Government the right to take money from me, by force, and give it to them.""
yeah I'm with you there. The fucking state should have its own resources, especially with the fucking property taxes they charge. My inlaws are paying 10K a year in property taxes on a 1 floor ranch house, but we all know where that money goes.
The other thing about flood insurance. I live in between 2 fucking lakes, and at first I couldn't get flood insurance because they said I wasn't in a flood zone. Not in a flood zone? Are you fucking kidding me? There is a very good chance half the people couldn't even get flood insurance.
Posted by: Berserker at January 14, 2013 07:22 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 07:22 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 11:17 AM (VtjlW)
You're just trying to be mean now, aren't you?
A beautiful and terrible queen..........
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 14, 2013 07:22 AM (da5Wo)
Ha Ha Ha
pookeoh mow vay wookie wookie in a gadda da vida
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 07:23 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Cricket at January 14, 2013 11:12 AM (DrC22)
Yes. I find it is best to skin them, de bone them and separate them into quarters before brining. Remember, you should brine teh parts for a least 12 hours. Then dry in a cool refrigerated area, to age the meat. Afterwards cook or freeze.
Would you like my dry rub recipe before the MD 20/20 soak?
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at January 14, 2013 07:23 AM (tWFaN)
Posted by: Bane at January 14, 2013 07:24 AM (Wks0m)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 07:24 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 07:25 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 07:25 AM (e0xKF)
There's something fishy about that.
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 14, 2013 07:25 AM (BNacf)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 07:25 AM (e0xKF)
The tentative agreement would further restrict New YorkÂ’s ban on assault weapons and limit the size of magazines to seven bullets, rather than the current 10. Other elements, pushed by Republicans, would refine a mental health law that allows for civil confinement of people determined to be a threat to others.
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 07:26 AM (8sCoq)
http://www.flyingmag.com/news/florida-skydiver-still-missing
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 07:26 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 14, 2013 07:26 AM (8dspl)
Clinton had it for a little while (I want to say maybe ~9 months) until it was declared unconstitutional.
It will need an amendment, which is something that SHOULD be on the table and getting shoved along.
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 14, 2013 07:27 AM (BNacf)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 07:27 AM (GVxQo)
You'd think people "not in a flood zone" would actually be the people they WANT buying insurance, as the chances of paying them off are pretty slim in comparison to the people required by law or their bank to have it. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 11:24 AM
Not kidding. The other kicker was at least 3 houses had to get damaged before they would pay, so if the lake swallows my house, and my nieghbors on the higher ground skate by with no damage I would still be fucked, insurance or not.
Posted by: Berserker at January 14, 2013 07:28 AM (FMbng)
In some respects these people have been living the dream for years. Not paying the expense of the hurricane codes, aka raised building, and gambling on the come.
They lost, now they want us to pay. Sort of like going to Vegas and demanding not to lose.
Sad, I feel for them. Shit happens. Life is not fair. I don't need to pay for your stupid, YOU DO.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at January 14, 2013 07:28 AM (tWFaN)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 07:29 AM (e0xKF)
Well, the Blue states should get more aid, after all, we pay all the taxes and receive none of the benefits! We're more educated and have less racism, too!
You shit-kicking cousin fuckers down in Deliverance country suck off the tit yet bitch when someone else needs help. Why don't you go pray to Jesus or hfind a snake handler to help out Alabama?
Posted by: Blue State Asshole at January 14, 2013 07:29 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 07:30 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 07:31 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2013 07:31 AM (gALTb)
I have huge problems with the Line-Item Veto. It, in essence, completely castrates the minority party. In closely partisan congresses (like we have most of the time), it effectively castrates Congress completely- which is not as good a thing as it sounds at first.
The point of the blanket veto is that the whole bill goes back to Congress. With Line-Item, only the things the President doesn't want go through.
So consider this: the majority party is a few votes shy of cloture in the Senate, or one party controls the Senate and the other controls the House. Well, now the President's party is able to say anything during negotiations, including passing amendments the opposition party wants to sweeten the deal. It passes both houses (let's call it even by 2/3 in the first go-round).
Now the President gets it, and he sits down with his Line-Item Veto and cuts out everything the opposition party wanted. Now only those items go back to Congress. What are the chances Congress overrides those vetoes?
And before you use any form of the "tit for tat" argument- when was the last time Republicans engaged in real tit-for-tat gamesmanship? Sometime in the early 1900s?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 07:31 AM (5DR1j)
You can blame loss of the line-item veto on the supposed conservative mayor of New York - RINO Rudy. The pork king from West Virgina tried to take it to SCOTUS and they refused to grant standing.
He got Clinton to line out money slated for NYC so RINO Rudy could sue and get standing. He did and they did and we lost it.
THE.FIRST.TIME.IT.WAS.USED
Posted by: Vic at January 14, 2013 07:31 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 07:31 AM (kLs5Y)
Red state/blue state explains even "disaster relief"
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 14, 2013 07:32 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 07:32 AM (e0xKF)
Congress just can't get enough of that sweet sweet pork. They remove the bone and give it to you and your children. Hard.
http://tinyurl.com/tasty-tasty-pork
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 14, 2013 07:32 AM (p/cQy)
The guy who invented the current designs was killed while jumping one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_de_Gayardon
He was a master parachute rigger...but was in a hurry and made a fatal packing mistake. When he went in I was still actively skydiving and it got a lot of discussion at DZ's
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 14, 2013 07:32 AM (BNacf)
you can get flood insurance even if you are not in a flood zone.....people usually don't get it because the lender doesn't require it.... ""
Eventually I managed to get it, but years back I couldn't. The back yard gets flooded a lot more than it used to. Why? Because the town decided to pull eminent domain on the old woman across the street, and they took 300 feet of her backyard to run the towns new storm drains, and they dump all the water into the stream that runs past both our houses that feeds the lake, so now they flood our area every time it rains.
Posted by: Berserker at January 14, 2013 07:34 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 07:35 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 07:36 AM (5H6zj)
I'm in Texas.
That said, I don't wish harm on them. I wish hurricane Sandy had never hit any populated area.
The harm is already done. The question now is what to do about it, and who is responsible for the cleanup. Congress (and too many 'Average Joes') think that I, in Texas, should be. I tend to think that the affected States should be.
I don't even have a problem with the Federally subsidized loans that used to be the norm. Well, okay, I have a little problem with it, but not as much of one. But now they just want to write blank checks. And that's not okay with me.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 07:36 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 14, 2013 07:36 AM (3Aqe5)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 07:36 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 07:37 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Vic at January 14, 2013 07:37 AM (53z96)
This bill shows is a microcosm of the entire problem in Washington.
BOTH parties are larding up a bill, even though we are already spending more than we take in.... even though we are facing both Sequestration, and having to raise the debt ceiling in just a couple of months....
They do not look at ALL at what the future holds... they just spend today...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 14, 2013 07:37 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 07:37 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 07:37 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 11:31 AM (kLs5Y
Quit buying medical insurance 12 years ago.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 14, 2013 07:38 AM (kWFP3)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 07:38 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2013 07:39 AM (gALTb)
Posted by: Lurkasaurus at January 14, 2013 07:39 AM (061ah)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 07:39 AM (kLs5Y)
My Dad sold insurance for Mutual of Omaha. This meant we always watched "Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom" on Sunday afternoons.
Inevitably, M of O's commerical would come on with the tagline: 'Mutual of Omaha- the company that pays.';
And every time, my Dad would say: 'Sometimes.'
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 07:39 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2013 07:39 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2013 07:39 AM (gALTb)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 07:39 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at January 14, 2013 07:40 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 14, 2013 07:40 AM (yiIja)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 11:37 AM (fWAjv)
No thanks, I'm just going to jam this screwdriver thru my eye socket into my brain and kind of swirl it around.
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 07:41 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 07:41 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 07:41 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 14, 2013 07:42 AM (0nyYS)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 11:38 AM (e0xKF)
The first Fox news alert I got said 'presser at 11:15'. The second one said 'presser at 11:30'. They've now given up sending alerts on it.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at January 14, 2013 07:42 AM (X6akg)
And the President wouldn't veto that bill full of things he'd already vetoed once... why?
Unless they're talking a single bill that requires a 2/3 majority to pass (essentially just over-riding all the line-items at once). Either way you're diluting (if not eliminating) the supposed power of the line item veto, since it is very, very likely there will be things both parties want passed in that bundled bill- and Congress is much more interested in its own power than doing what's right.
I'm sorry, I just don't see that the line item veto is in keeping with the balance of powers which should be maintained. And if it is modified to make it work withing the balance of powers, then it looses the effectiveness it was supposed to have.
There was a time that the blanket veto was used like a line item veto. You put one thing in that a President considered non-negotiable, and he'd veto the whole bill with a statement that said "Remove that clause, and we can talk again." Then, Congress either overrode the veto (rare) or took out the offending clause and sent the President something he was more willing to sign (less rare).
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 07:43 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: mare at January 14, 2013 07:43 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 14, 2013 07:44 AM (kWFP3)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2013 07:44 AM (gALTb)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 07:44 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 07:45 AM (GVxQo)
Jersey is very red outside the handfull of shithole cities, but those cities are jammed packed with FSA asshole leftists.
Posted by: Berserker at January 14, 2013 07:45 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: cajun carrot at January 14, 2013 07:45 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2013 07:46 AM (gALTb)
Posted by: Debt Ceiling at January 14, 2013 07:46 AM (a0nis)
202 BCochran, sitting in Jackson MS what it showed was how greedy and selfish the idiots running the Pelican state were. It raised a lot of hackles on top of their original post-Katrina wish list that was just as bad as this Sandy bill.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 11:39 AM (QidfK)
I have to hear this shit all the time. (Live in NE Florida) I have little sympathy for these people. Ok, that's not entirely true. I do feel for people who have lost their homes and belongings. But, I mean damn. "I lost everything!" "That sucks. But you have insurance, right?" "Uh, no." "WTF? Why not?" "I'm not required to." "You live in FLORIDA." "That shit is expensive." "Because you LIVE IN FLORIDA!!!"
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 14, 2013 07:46 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 07:46 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 07:46 AM (fWAjv)
Seething hate at eleventy trillion
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 11:46 AM (fWAjv)
Why are you doing that to yourself?
Posted by: Tami[/i] at January 14, 2013 07:47 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Berserker at January 14, 2013 11:45 AM (FMbng)
well, Colorado is pretty red outside the deep blue Front Range cities and ski towns
But the net result is CO is blue
was red in 2000, trending purple in 2004, now blue
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 07:48 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2013 07:48 AM (gALTb)
Posted by: EC at January 14, 2013 07:48 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, High Priest of the Gods of the Copybook Headings at January 14, 2013 07:48 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: Citizen Anachronda brakes for velociraptors at January 14, 2013 07:48 AM (xGZ+b)
Moral Hazard, how does it work.
All of the financial pressures on insurance companies are such that they do everything they can not to pay, or to delay payment as much as possible. Just like any bookie.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 07:48 AM (5DR1j)
Raising the debt ceiling doesn't mean more spending.
Did he actually say that?
I've lost count of that asshole's psychoses. He's worse than Sybil was.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 14, 2013 07:48 AM (yiIja)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 14, 2013 07:49 AM (Lxw+T)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 07:49 AM (GVxQo)
Is he actually taking harsh Q+A?
BWAHAHAHA!
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 07:49 AM (LRFds)
Ad-Lib Assault Weapons Ban!
This bill bans the sale of guns that have three or more of the following features:
1) Barrel is longer than Reid pederast rap sheet
2) My Little Pony decals
3) Featured in any rap video
...
(fill in your thoughts here!)
except during the celebration of __________ or if you __________ and you really ________.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 75% more DOOM! at January 14, 2013 07:49 AM (xAtAj)
220, true, but that can be said about just about every state short of Massachusetts or Vermont.
Going off topic, but that's why I'm a fan of prportional distrubution of Electoral Votes.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at January 14, 2013 07:49 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2013 07:50 AM (v6YdM)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 07:50 AM (fWAjv)
"when done properly" is without a doubt the funniest thing I have ever read in description of what FEMA does.
No offense to you, but it brings to mind the notion I had that "a properly ran UN would help America spread freedom."
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 07:50 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wilde Wrepublican Wench at January 14, 2013 07:50 AM (KC0r9)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2013 07:52 AM (gALTb)
Posted by: mare at January 14, 2013 11:43 AM (A98Xu)
I think the state should handle it. If christie wasn't such a fat fuck rino he could make a point of explaining why in a state with such high property taxes there isn't any funds, but noooo he won't do that.
Posted by: Berserker at January 14, 2013 07:52 AM (FMbng)
and the GOP wonders why it is fucked as a national power and losing the western states and south through voter apathy?
Hey national GOP unless you are making MAD MAD MAD donation scratch form New England write them the hell off.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 07:52 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 07:52 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 07:52 AM (fWAjv)
Random kid (not more than 17) I was playing Borderlands 2 with, upon learning I was married, advised it was not a good idea to have kids until Obama is out of office because of the economy. No idea of my politics but, is pissed enough about how things are he felt comfortable saying that.
There is a sweet spot of stupid amongst the populace that the Democrats have exploited to the hilt. However, the coming generation, high school kids, are going to be some of the most conservatives in 40 years, I believe.
The best part about LIB is that the first casualties and the softest targets are the most fervent of Democrats.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 14, 2013 07:53 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 07:53 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2013 07:53 AM (gALTb)
the notion of coercion of the working through Federal power to subsidize insanity escapes some folk....
You gonna make it to "what comes next" when the divorce happens?
If not I'll light a candle for you.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 07:53 AM (LRFds)
Because you can put a bar there silly.
Posted by: DaveA at January 14, 2013 07:53 AM (I3vTd)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 07:53 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 07:53 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2013 07:54 AM (gALTb)
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 14, 2013 07:54 AM (BNacf)
I can see the amazing amout of concern by congress for those affected by Sandy!
oh wait no i can't it's only an opportunity to steal for their other pet projects .
Posted by: ette at January 14, 2013 07:55 AM (nqBYe)
Heh....
the marxists are trying to hold us in a hostage's dilemma.
They know we have voices from the right in most states who are held hostage to the City's deathlock on power through Free Shit Army and the donk coalition.....
so we are to wish no harm on them.
I say the Red in Blue should be working on escape plans.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 07:55 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 07:55 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 07:55 AM (kLs5Y)
He's pushing 10 minutes to answer two questions, which means that in this extremely rare press conference, he'll have time for maybe 6 questions max. And yet his media continue to fellate him. What a farce.
Posted by: Palandine[/i] at January 14, 2013 07:55 AM (g7D8V)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 14, 2013 07:56 AM (Lxw+T)
"Pay the bills" must have rocked with the focus group.
Republicans are just helping destroy us with the never ending deficit spending. Make the proles pay for the welfare state they voted for, and they might find some sanity. Insulating them from that is killing us.
Posted by: Invictus at January 14, 2013 07:56 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 07:57 AM (kLs5Y)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 07:57 AM (fWAjv)
How ignorant. Of course you have indoor plumbing in Oklahoma. It's very inconvenient to cook meth without it.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 14, 2013 07:57 AM (SY2Kh)
The owners took the calculated risk of living in those areas without the proper insurance.
Decisions have consequences, sucks to be you but you made it, now live with it.
This is precisely how this country has gotten to the sad state it has fallen.
You know how many River Roads, River Views, Beach Side Terrace and Ocean View Boulevards there are in NJ there's a lot.
You know what happens semi-regularly?
They flood!
The state allows this because in the end all they care about is the property tax and as you can see if the event is really big, the potential for federal dollars to fund their cronies and the well connected.
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 14, 2013 07:58 AM (RrD4h)
Posted by: Opus An Arcus at January 14, 2013 07:58 AM (Qq7XY)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 07:58 AM (fWAjv)
Your tax dollars at work, for the children and shit.
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 07:58 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 07:58 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 07:59 AM (VtjlW)
Some bean counter had figured out that some percentage of people won't challenge a rejected claim, so they preyed on that fact to screw people.
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 14, 2013 07:59 AM (BNacf)
wait why are you only giving me 200, but what about the stereo system i want, or I need to pay for a night out with the wife and buy her a new dress, and i want to paint the bedroom !
Posted by: ette at January 14, 2013 07:59 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Berserker at January 14, 2013 11:12 AM (FMbng)
________________
You choose to live that close to the ocean, you take a risk of this happening. I have ZERO sympathy.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 14, 2013 07:59 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 14, 2013 11:55 AM (HDgX3)
Since the debt ceiling will be increased, we need to get some, too. How about a few billion $ for the Civilian Marksmanship Program? Including an M1a manufacturing plant in Texas.
Posted by: Invictus at January 14, 2013 07:59 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 11:57 AM (fWAjv)
That all hinges on an assumption that obama actually has a dick. I think not.
Posted by: Berserker at January 14, 2013 07:59 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Opus An Arcus at January 14, 2013 07:59 AM (Qq7XY)
However, the coming generation, high school kids, are going to be some of the most conservatives in 40 years, I believe.
From your keyboard to God's smartphone.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 14, 2013 07:59 AM (yiIja)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 08:00 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 08:00 AM (kLs5Y)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 08:00 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 08:00 AM (VtjlW)
And Matt Damon! was in the movie.
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 08:00 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 08:00 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 08:01 AM (e0xKF)
Amtrak is operating with massive losses.
In fact their bar cars operate at a loss.
This is an effort to get money to paper over these losses.
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 14, 2013 08:01 AM (RrD4h)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2013 08:01 AM (gALTb)
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 14, 2013 11:59 AM (BNacf)
The strange thing is that car insurance doesn't seem nearly as skeezy. Geico always pays up when needed, and often gets the other guy on the hook as at fault. At least in my experience.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 75% more DOOM! at January 14, 2013 08:01 AM (xAtAj)
If only there were a trade that was predicated on the notion that there job was to cut through the bullshit of those in power and ask hard questions like, "why was Bush an asshole for adding less than 4.5 trillion in debt but you're a superhero for doubling the total?'
Maybe they could keep a journal of answer what would we call this trade?
Diarists?
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 08:02 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2013 08:02 AM (gALTb)
If Smilin' Joe wants to keep gun deaths down... buy every gun owner a gun safe! And pay for trips to the range to keep lawful gun owners' accuracy up!
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 75% more DOOM! at January 14, 2013 08:03 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 08:03 AM (9Bj8R)
If people would read their insurance policies they wouldn't be so suprised when something isn't covered.
Insurance is the most regulated and monitored business in the country.
Posted by: polynikes at January 14, 2013 08:04 AM (m2CN7)
And that's pretty well true across the board. I've lost count of the times I've had to call my health insurance company and explain that I understand health care law better than most people (and probably better than the poor schmuck on the other end of the line), and that, yes, they will be paying this claim and, yes, they will be telling the doctor to write the rest off as contractual obligation. The only question remaining is whether they'll do so before I file a documented complaint with the Texas Department of Insurance.
Oh, by the way, if you're in Texas (can't speak to other states), that's the magic phrase. If you say "law suit" they'll say, "I'm transferring you over to legal now, thanks!" If you say, "TDI Complaint" they'll tend to become very cooperative very quickly, unless they know 100% for certain that no one in their organization has made any mistake regarding this particular claim. TDI Complaints are very expensive, even when the insurer is not found to be in the wrong. They're exponentially worse when the insurer has made even a minor screw-up.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 08:04 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 08:04 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2013 08:04 AM (gALTb)
The divorce is coming.
I am not losing 40-60% of my income to these fuckheads to blow on freeshit army to have power en perpetual to undo the bill of rights.
If the red in the Purple/Blue think the red in the red will keep playing this game or we can 'change it if we just cave on guns, speech, debt, etc etc etc"
we're screwed anyway.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 08:04 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: mare at January 14, 2013 08:05 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 14, 2013 08:05 AM (Lxw+T)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 14, 2013 11:59 AM (HDgX3)
A lot of those people weren't by the ocean, they can't even see the ocean. The water was literally pushed up rivers and flooded areas inland that weren't by the ocean.
But you are right, I probably shouldn't donate money any more to any relief efforts across the country when needed.
Posted by: Berserker at January 14, 2013 08:05 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 08:05 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 08:05 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 08:05 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 08:05 AM (kLs5Y)
Posted by: Opus An Arcus at January 14, 2013 08:06 AM (Qq7XY)
This lying cock sucker is going to cause a civil war
Come on dude. We just had an election. We lost.
Posted by: CJ at January 14, 2013 08:07 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 08:07 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: mare at January 14, 2013 08:07 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 08:08 AM (GVxQo)
When your operating costs are so out of whack that you're charging $8 for a hamburger and STILL losing money hand-over-fist, it's time to wrap things up.
I'm certain that the unions have nothing at all to do with this.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 14, 2013 08:08 AM (yiIja)
It's pretty amazing that the regions of the country where they "believe" the AGW shit the hardest and 'rising oceans eleventy!" were the least prepared.
My Boss in Louisiana is one of the nicest people I know, and even he was laughing his ass off at the geniuses in New england who mocked Louisiana, Mississippi, and texas' readiness.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 08:08 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 08:08 AM (9Bj8R)
Wouldn't such a vote be proof that they don't have any?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 08:08 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 12:07 PM (9Bj8R)
----
What are these "balls" of which you speak????
Posted by: Any Republican at January 14, 2013 08:08 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2013 08:08 AM (gALTb)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 08:09 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 14, 2013 12:05 PM (Lxw+T)
--- Remember the Mustang Ranch that the Gov. took over ? They could not make money running a whore house and selling booze
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 14, 2013 08:09 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 08:09 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 08:09 AM (kLs5Y)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 08:09 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 08:10 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 08:10 AM (GVxQo)
I think it has been plainly established in the last 7 years that the GOP needs a balls transplant.
There has been ample opportunity to present the case that the democrat made this shit casserole possible and in the end inevitable.
We refuse to use them counting on the innate sense of Americans to see it.
Yeah Speaker Boehner those Americans who watch Honey Boo and jackass! ain't gonna cipher it out solo.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 08:10 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 08:11 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 08:11 AM (GVxQo)
Well, I guess I'll be ginning up a little more when I get my CHL in the next couple of months (got the money already set aside. Now I just have to decide where to go take my class, and fit it into my schedule).
Maybe my wife will make me a gun-shaped cake in celebration.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 08:11 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 08:11 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 08:11 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 08:12 AM (e0xKF)
If not why not?
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 08:12 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 12:05 PM (kLs5Y)
The M1 Garand. The finest tool of freedom ever invented. The standard 30.06 hunting round will defeat any body armor on earth. Just sayin... Okay, if they use chicken plates, maybe not, but the drug gangs, and FSA don't like the extra weight.
Posted by: Invictus at January 14, 2013 08:12 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 12:08 PM (LRFds)
yeah this is why I separate the actual vacation home rich from the poor slob. In some of those rich shore areas the fucking residents were trying to sue the towns for building up sand dunes and ruining their "million dollar views", and ironically they were spared. I have no sympathy for those assholes. My attitude is this should fall right on the neck of christie. There is no reason why the state can't handle this, not with the property taxes here.
Posted by: Berserker at January 14, 2013 08:12 AM (FMbng)
I did an analysis that they would have to charge $24.00 dollars for a hamburger and $10.00 for a soft drink just to break even.
The are underwater by orders of magnitude, or I should say we are because we fund all of this nonsense!
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 14, 2013 08:12 AM (RrD4h)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 12:11 PM (GVxQo)
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HA
HAHAHA
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Posted by: THE M.F.M. at January 14, 2013 08:12 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 08:12 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 08:13 AM (9Bj8R)
This, 100%.
Texas will take care of our citizens when disaster strikes. New Jersey can take care of their citizens when disaster strikes.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 08:14 AM (5DR1j)
327 Insurance companies don't cover acts of war, or nuclear disasters.
Or...'acts of terrorism'.
After the OKC bombing, most insurance companies quickly added language to exclude 'terrorism' from their coverage.
Posted by: wheatie at January 14, 2013 08:14 AM (fH4X9)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 08:14 AM (GVxQo)
Hahaha!!! She'll be the new cake girl!
Posted by: EC at January 14, 2013 08:15 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 08:15 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 08:15 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 12:14 PM (GVxQo)
I haven't watched any "news" channels including Fox since the election. I just can't take anymore....
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 14, 2013 08:15 AM (9+ccr)
The Bernoulli principle tweets - "how's my ass taste now bitchez!"
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 14, 2013 08:16 AM (BNacf)
or NYC's electrical grid being so undercapitalized it was vulnerable to salt water....
look you guys pay the 2d highest rates in the country...it ain't my fault you get conned and they just use the money as graft.
NYC used to produce some of the best conmen on the planet and they would prey on the middle Americans....
um NYC your conmen are in charge of your cities and state now...I ain't buying the con.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 08:16 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Opus An Arcus at January 14, 2013 08:16 AM (Qq7XY)
Posted by: waldo at January 14, 2013 08:17 AM (H96hE)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 08:17 AM (fWAjv)
It's fucking 48 degrees in LA. That is too effin cold!
27 here in Nor Cal... global freezing?
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 14, 2013 08:17 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: waldo at January 14, 2013 12:17 PM (H96hE)
It's 54....in Connecticut.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at January 14, 2013 08:18 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: nerdygirl at January 14, 2013 08:18 AM (c2kdv)
You remember my post on the Dayton Flood of 1913?
federal response was a colonel and an accountant.
We did fine shoot the looters and rebuild.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 08:18 AM (LRFds)
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Not to go all Cliff Claven on ya.... but do not run full power 30-06 hunting ammo through a Garand. You will wreck your op rod.
Other than that .... two thumbs up on the Garand.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 14, 2013 08:18 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 08:18 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: Chili Palmer at January 14, 2013 08:18 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 08:19 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Opus An Arcus at January 14, 2013 08:19 AM (Qq7XY)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 08:19 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: rickl at January 14, 2013 08:19 AM (zoehZ)
That is exactly right.
The average NJ citizen pays north of $7000 dollars in property taxes.
They have a high state income tax.
They have a high sales tax.
They have a gas tax.
They have copious toll roads and highways.
The have egregious tolls on bridges and tunnels.
In short we should be flush with cash, but we're not.
The vast majority of the money is slushed to the various politically connected unions to pay for their gold plated pensions.
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 14, 2013 08:19 AM (RrD4h)
Posted by: Lord Humongous at January 14, 2013 08:20 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 14, 2013 08:20 AM (81UWZ)
27 here in Nor Cal... global freezing?
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 14, 2013 12:17 PM (9+ccr)
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Gaia is PISSED at Algore for taking big oil money.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 14, 2013 08:20 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: real joe at January 14, 2013 08:20 AM (PD2ad)
Barry won't do that until lord humungus is the one telling him.
He will quite happily kill people to keep playing Santa Claus.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 08:20 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 14, 2013 08:20 AM (yiIja)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 08:20 AM (9Bj8R)
How did you avoid "accidentally" bumping him?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 08:21 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 08:21 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 08:21 AM (kLs5Y)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 12:08 PM (9Bj8R)
I agree, but he hasn't even been sworn in again yet. If people couldn't be bothered to vote against him I doubt they'll start a war.
Posted by: CJ at January 14, 2013 08:22 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 08:22 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 08:22 AM (GVxQo)
Well if you call the "almost an M-14" product perfected M1a a "garand' I'll let it mostly stand...although the person warning about hot 30-06 is correct.
I'd make the same statement about the M-16 as older guys make about the garand.
When you absolutely need to put evil down Eugene Stoner built a hell of a tool.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 08:22 AM (LRFds)
2) I just don't give a shit about the "good" people who live in blue or purple states anymore. Look, this shit has been going on long enough. There is no chance your state is going to come to its senses collectively. It's not going to happen, let's be realistic. All you're doing now is propping up those who mean to hang you when the music stops. At this point, you only have yourself to blame for staying there and being lumped in with all them. You have a choice: Stay there and suffer with them or move to a better state.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 14, 2013 08:22 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 08:23 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 08:23 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 12:14 PM (5DR1j)
yeah thats my point. The biggest piss off about this is that we should have the money. My property taxes are $7600 in a run of the mill middle class area, my inlaws are 10K. Some towns are 20K. The taxes are fucking obscene, and that fat fuck christie goes and licks obama's nads on national TV instead of telling the people we're broke because of asshole lib policies.
Posted by: Berserker at January 14, 2013 08:24 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 08:25 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 14, 2013 08:25 AM (T0NGe)
Ah yes, the bolt on a Garand. Touchy, fast, and STRONG, Described in various survival manuals as a way to make a makeshift steel trap for small game like deer and wild pigs.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 14, 2013 08:25 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 12:25 PM (9Bj8R)
You're gonna have to be a little more specific.....
Posted by: Tami[/i] at January 14, 2013 08:25 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 08:25 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: real joe at January 14, 2013 08:25 AM (PD2ad)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 08:26 AM (e0xKF)
The vast majority of the money is slushed to the various politically connected unions to pay for their gold plated pensions.
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 14, 2013 12:19 PM
Bingo!
Posted by: Berserker at January 14, 2013 08:26 AM (FMbng)
Is Stoner working for KAC now?
Posted by: EC at January 14, 2013 08:26 AM (GQ8sn)
As I look out the window today I see about 10" of snow on the ground. Quick, someone call the federal govt and tell them to send money. 10" for crying out loud. I may be 1/2 an hour late for work. THIS IS A CODE RED EMERGENCY!!!
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 14, 2013 08:26 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 12:23 PM (9Bj8R)
We're too obsessed with Obama. He can't run again. Everything he stands for is what the Left stands for, and has for a century. We better end our fixation with Washington and Obama and start engaging in the greater battle.
Posted by: CJ at January 14, 2013 08:26 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 08:26 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2013 08:26 AM (gALTb)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 08:26 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: pthomas at January 14, 2013 08:27 AM (4raCj)
Sweet puppy PG?
As for the Coexist pumper sticker, did I mention I am peddling one?
http://tinyurl.com/czoq2zf
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 08:27 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: Ken at January 14, 2013 08:28 AM (3ar4L)
Posted by: real joe at January 14, 2013 12:25 PM (PD2ad)
_____________
They have these things called airplanes and such that allow people to travel great distances in a matter of hours. And other wonderful inventions like phones, email, chat, web videos that allow people great distances apart to be in constant communication.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 14, 2013 08:28 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 08:28 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: cajun carrot at January 14, 2013 08:28 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2013 08:28 AM (gALTb)
Posted by: Boomer Redneque, mobile edition at January 14, 2013 08:29 AM (ZeAMU)
"And it's your fault, not mine."Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 08:29 AM (fWAjv)
Denver Metro is currently 7F and some schools have closed for burst water mains
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 08:29 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: real joe at January 14, 2013 08:29 AM (PD2ad)
390.......loves to dig and pull out plants and stakes....
I dunno why shepherds are such diggers.
My big doggeh is a shepherd mix...and is an avid digger.
I designated one long flowerbed as 'his', dumped some bags of sand in there...and he loves it.
It's his own sandbox.
He doesn't dig anywhere else, since I did that.
Posted by: wheatie at January 14, 2013 08:30 AM (fH4X9)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 08:30 AM (9Bj8R)
Have you ever tried to babysit via e-mail?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is at work and hates everyone at January 14, 2013 08:30 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 08:30 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 08:30 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2013 08:31 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 08:31 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 12:29 PM (8sCoq)
________________
WTF? What idiot doesn't build a school - or any building - in Denver that is insulated to withstand 7 degree weather?
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 14, 2013 08:31 AM (HDgX3)
It also didn't have quite the range of the M-14. As he explained "No, in the jungles you didn't need the extra range, but we didn't always fight in the jungle. The M-14 shot just fine at close range. But when you wanted the extra range, the M-16 just didn't have it."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 08:31 AM (5DR1j)
Unless the Senate flips, impeachment is a non-starter.
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 14, 2013 08:31 AM (BNacf)
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 14, 2013 08:32 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 08:32 AM (fWAjv)
No. It was designed (to the extent is was "designed" for something) to do excellent on the range. Get it dirty (dirt not being a regional issue an infantryman will face) and reliability goes in the shitter for the A1, and is at least compromised for the A2 and A3. Dirt is the enemy of your M16.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 14, 2013 08:33 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 08:33 AM (GVxQo)
The main problem was that the military changed the design and ammo. It was originally designed with a chromed chamber, and a cleaner burning ammo.
To save money, they military went with a non-chrome lined chamber and a dirtier type of ammo. To compound matters, they initially didn't issue cleaning kits with them, claiming they were "self cleaning".
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 14, 2013 08:33 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 14, 2013 08:33 AM (yiIja)
The original M-16 had problems with reliability which were corrected in subsequent models IIRC.
I think it had something to do with how it was designed for use in a European conflict instead of in a rainforest in southeastern Asia, as the climate conditions played hell on it.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 12:28 PM (e0xKF)
Off the top of my head, there were among other things problem with the powder used in the cartridge that was different than the one Stoner recommended. It was a lot dirtier and fouled the weapon much faster. Also, no chrome barrel which corroded in a humid environment and no cleaning kit issued.
The later models added the forward assist.
Posted by: EC at January 14, 2013 08:33 AM (GQ8sn)
I may have to do that for one of my dogs (we think she's an Irish Setter mix).
How did you get him to dig in the designated flowerbed?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 08:33 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: nerdygirl at January 14, 2013 08:34 AM (c2kdv)
http://is.gd/cwr01i
He's like the anti-Obama.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is at work and hates everyone at January 14, 2013 08:34 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: real joe at January 14, 2013 12:29 PM (PD2ad)
_________________________________
Chill dude. Plenty of grandparents live far away and they manage. I'm so sick of hearing this. Oh I can't leave the people's republic of (fill in the blank) because my grandkids or my parents are here. OK fine. Then shut the fuck up about it. You're voluntarily choosing to stay there. Stop whining about it.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 14, 2013 08:34 AM (HDgX3)
a lot more to it than that. The Army decided in its infinite wisdom to undo a lot of the improvements in the AR family that had been made through experience with the Portugese in Africa and South American use....
the design is sound, give the geniuses in procurement a garand today and it will be a nerf gun.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 08:35 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 12:32 PM (fWAjv)
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That .... and issued without chrome lining and cleaning kits didnt help much either.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 14, 2013 08:35 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 08:35 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 14, 2013 12:27 PM (GVxQo)
Oops. Sorry. I meant Obama burn sequester filibuster Hagel RINO burn! OBSFHRB!
Posted by: CJ at January 14, 2013 08:35 AM (9KqcB)
I am dialing the ACLU right now..... you'll be hearing from stat.
Posted by: Muslim Loving Libtards at January 14, 2013 08:37 AM (z63Tr)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 08:37 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 08:37 AM (VtjlW)
In fact their bar cars operate at a loss.
Who wants to pay for a $7 hotdog?
Posted by: EC at January 14, 2013 08:37 AM (GQ8sn)
The down side of all this....I will have to drive across the hated Tappan Zee Bridge again...in rush hour traffic....but only once a week. Score! Oh...and uh....because of the dodgy neighborhoods I'll be working in, work is restricted to daylight hours only. That gives me a nice warm fuzzy feeling. Gulp. I'm also instructed to inform any curious natives that the equipment I'm installing is 'Weather Sensors', 'Cell Phone Repeaters', etc......
I ain't complaining. It's a job, it pays well, and right now, it's what I need.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at January 14, 2013 08:38 AM (L7hol)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 14, 2013 12:31 PM (HDgX3)
you can't insulate the soil outside the building wallwhere the pipe breaks, cutting off water service to the building
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 08:38 AM (8sCoq)
"America, you're still fucked."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 14, 2013 12:26 PM (UOM4
"And it's your fault, not mine."
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 12:29 PM (fWAjv)
"And you better put some ice on that."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 14, 2013 08:38 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 08:38 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: EC at January 14, 2013 12:37 PM (GQ8sn)
If you are traveling by train ( not talking intercity shuttle service) you probably aren't fazed by paying more for stuff
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 08:39 AM (8sCoq)
would have been fine. McNamara and his 'whiz kids' switched the
ammunition from stick powder to ball powder to save money.
Fouling the gas tube was only one of numerous problems that weapon had. And NO weapon should be designed to require a particular powder for proper operation. So long as your round meets STANAG the weapon should shoot them reliably, regardless of powder.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 14, 2013 08:40 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 08:40 AM (kLs5Y)
448...How did you get him to dig in the designated flowerbed?
It was the...sand.
I noticed that he would come runing whenever I was adding sand to a flowerbed...and immediately start 'helping' me mix it in.
So when I removed some dirt in that one bed...and dumped about 6 bags of sand in it...he went nuts, digging there.
He laid in it.
Rolled in it.
It's been "his area' ever since.
It's also a bed that is in shade, most of the day...so I think that's part of the attraction.
Posted by: wheatie at January 14, 2013 08:40 AM (fH4X9)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2013 08:40 AM (gALTb)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 08:40 AM (5H6zj)
Piston guns FTW!
Posted by: EC at January 14, 2013 08:40 AM (GQ8sn)
I ain't complaining. It's a job, it pays well, and right now, it's what I need.
Congrats, SW. Now when I become un-funemployed, we'll know we're really on the road to recovery.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 14, 2013 08:41 AM (yiIja)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 08:41 AM (VtjlW)
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Yeah, it is.
You prefer the trade-offs you get for living there.
That's a rational choice.
But, you don't want to accept the responsibility you also assume for remaining there.
You don't get to say, "I can't move because I like being close to family" while also saying, "don't lump me in with all the FSA, it's not my fault."
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 14, 2013 08:42 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: Pyrocles at January 14, 2013 08:42 AM (cv5Iw)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 14, 2013 12:33 PM (SY2Kh)
Yeah, forget it is an underpowered pos round designed by committee. Other than that, it rocks. We win because of air superiority and jdams, in spite of having such a pos as a battle rifle.
Posted by: Invictus at January 14, 2013 08:43 AM (OQpzc)
Just a reminder: Not only Obama but Reid/Durbin/Schumer/Murray (Biden too) voted against debt ceiling increase in '06: http://ow.ly/gND4n
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 08:43 AM (8sCoq)
every engineered device on Earth has performance windows and tolerances.
It is not Stoner's fault or a catastrophic flaw in the AR-15 family that the weapon likes a chrome bore and prefers cleaner powder if you are gonna refuse to clean it.
There was a comedy of errors, the AR-15 was the best "medium solution" to the realistic needs of a modern battle rifle. My uncle in the 1st Cav was quite content with the AR-15 he fought with, of course he cleaned it religiously as he was taught to do by Grandpa and had decided to do with his private AR-10. Given the findings of Project Salvo a 20" 5.56 weapon is the optimal solution for a force to achieve maximum volume of fire in practical military range.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 08:44 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 14, 2013 08:44 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: we are so screwed, deliver us oh SMOD at January 14, 2013 08:44 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 08:45 AM (fWAjv)
warm fuzzy feeling. Gulp. I'm also instructed to inform any curious
natives that the equipment I'm installing is 'Weather Sensors', 'Cell
Phone Repeaters', etc......
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Ask me sometime about the time a local disenfranchised yute swiped my ladder... while I was on a roof.
Fun times....
Posted by: fixerupper at January 14, 2013 08:45 AM (nELVU)
End our "Fixation" with obama? Unfortunetaly he is the President the his sycophant left wing democrats in the Senate do as they are told. So we have to contend with them and try to minimize the damage as best we can. And exactly which "greater battle" are you referring to?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 12:30 PM (9Bj8R)
The battle OUT THERE. Convincing Americans, making the case, for our broad political philosphy of limited government. We're obsessed with the end point: Washington. We start the race at the finish line. The Left doesn't work that way.
We just lost an election in which Democrats said "We'll give you whatever you want and tax someone else to pay for it." We let them portray us as the folks who will raise taxes on the middle class. We haven't made a case for limited government. Our only case is anti-Obama. But when he's gone, his ideology remains, and we still won't have made a case against it. We're dismissed as simply anti-Obama. It's old. Forget him. Time to tell the nation what it will cost to get the European style goverment they want, rather than just saying "it cost too much." Voters don't believe it costs too much. They don't see the benefit of smaller government. They think that while THEY don't need a handout, their neighbor does. Let's address that fallacy. It's why suburban voters vote Dem. Lots of alternative approaches to just targeting Obama. Or Washington Dems.
Posted by: CJ at January 14, 2013 08:45 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 08:45 AM (VtjlW)
The AR-15 is more lethal pound for pound in small unit action than either the M-14 or the AK 7.62 family.
The majority of laymen will not engage in heavy action with a full bore battle rifle without serious training and oversight.
I wanted the M-8 and the new genade launcher....
President "make it rain" wants red ryder bb guns....
The AR-15 will be around a long time.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 08:46 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 08:46 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Cricket at January 14, 2013 08:47 AM (DrC22)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 08:48 AM (VtjlW)
What? Here's an idea, bury them below your frost level, it's what everyone else above the 35th parrallel does.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 14, 2013 08:48 AM (GZitp)
Who wants to pay for a $7 hotdog?
The problem is...they microwave a cold dog right out of the bulk package it came in, squash it into an equally cold bun, then pass it to you. If you're brave, you can make use of the "Condiment Station", which includes....mustard, if you're lucky, a few empty containers that may, or may not have held onions, cheese sauce, sour kraut, chilli sauce, other 'fixins', an empty ketchup squirter, and a plastic shelf that looks like it's been smeared with the snot of an Ebola patient.....all of which have been sneezed on by at least one hundred of your flu infected co-passengers. Also.....the guy that MW's your dog? He has the flu too...but he's being paid 75 dollars an hour just to show up, and sneer at you, whether you're happy or not...and if his, hers, or it's nose drippings happen to drizzle over your hot dog, well too f'ing bad!
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at January 14, 2013 08:49 AM (L7hol)
if someone could CG Barack's features on Hitler in that clip and one of the generals saying, "Mein Fuhrer a trillion dollars now buys approximately a loaf of bread not a recovery."
Man brutal.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 08:49 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 08:49 AM (fWAjv)
We hosted an oyster roast on the river Saturday night, and while the weather was lovely, the damned gnats came out in force (no on-shore wind, either. Gah.).
It was still one of the best parties ever, though.
Supposed to turn cold any rainy by Thursday.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 14, 2013 08:50 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 08:50 AM (8sCoq)
I watched that dreadful 'press conference' a few minutes ago.
Watched the whole thing.
On a scale of Demagoguery from 1 to 10....it was a 12.
That was his whole reason for doing it, to demagogue the debt ceiling showdown...in advance.
Everything that he accused the House Republicans of doing...he himself is doing, bigtime.
He kept using the phrase "America must pay it's bills".
And he never mentioned, of course...that America had taken on too many bills, and must cut back.
It was a disgusting display of Zero leadership.
Posted by: wheatie at January 14, 2013 08:50 AM (fH4X9)
We wanted to get a dog from a Golden Retriver Rescue, but the nearest one is 3.5 hours away and they say they almost always find people closer to them.
We have a cat and kids, so we aren't the easiest fit.
The local rescues had really outdated web sites last time I looked. Will have to start looking again, I guess.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 14, 2013 08:51 AM (SUKHu)
I'm from Maryland, and I am officially jealous of your oyster roast
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 08:51 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 08:51 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 08:53 AM (kLs5Y)
Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2013 08:53 AM (sgNEe)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 08:53 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: RushBabe at January 14, 2013 08:54 AM (tQHzJ)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 08:54 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 08:54 AM (fWAjv)
I'm fairly certain they determined that their operating losses on food service were the result of dumb ass employees basically engaging in massive theft (either direct drawer skimming, or handing out free food to people for various reasons.)
Which is sad really. When the wife and I go to chicago we take the train, we brought our own food on, but didn't plan well enough and had to go get some food from the "snack car." I got a crappily microwaved egg McMuffin knock off that was cold in the center, and my wife got a soda they weren't even bothering to keep cold. For like $9.
Like most other things in government, if they could fire some employees and restructure they might be able to at least stop hemorrhaging money.
Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 14, 2013 08:54 AM (Fwayc)
>>Harry Reid Disavows Report Linking Him To Bribery Case
But not the pederast reports??
Interesting...
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 14, 2013 08:54 AM (SUKHu)
Just wait until some brave jounalist manages to ask him, "was passing a 10 trillion dollar uneffective affordable care act the right move?"
Then we will have it explained that Ogabecare is a debt reducer.
Fuck 'em all.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 08:54 AM (LRFds)
CHRYSLER TO BUILD JEEPS IN CHINA, RUSSIA...
http://is.gd/2BpkMU
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 08:55 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 08:55 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2013 08:55 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 08:55 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 08:55 AM (kLs5Y)
Blue crabs,,steamed red..I see them in my dreams!
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 12:55 PM (kLs5Y)
where 'fresh' means 'we just caught these'
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 08:56 AM (8sCoq)
>>Speaking of doggehs, I would like these please - http://bit.ly/WGSlBE
Awww, what cute little ponies!
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 14, 2013 08:57 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 08:57 AM (5H6zj)
Make it $5 trillion and you got yourself a kind and gentle, good for the children, caring, motherfucking bill.
Far past time to start cooking over the coals of DC.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 14, 2013 08:57 AM (yPX0e)
Blue crabs,,steamed red..I see them in my dreams! Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 12:55 PM
The Eastern Shore of Maryland?
Posted by: Long Island at January 14, 2013 08:58 AM (hl8SI)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 08:58 AM (5H6zj)
Yeah "a girly gun"....
go to handloads.com and look up the .223s stopping power.
It is not so hot against bears....
does plenty fine against human beings.
In a military sense a wound is "lethality" if it renders the client combat ineffective.
We'll agree to disagree, if I were running an insurgency in a non urban environ I'd prefer the 6.5*55 or above....
for urban and military work in a combined arms setting the 5.56 class of ammo or even the 4.7mm caseless that Ivan quitting ended are optimal.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 08:58 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Blacksheep at January 14, 2013 08:59 AM (8/DeP)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 08:59 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Invictus at January 14, 2013 09:00 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 09:01 AM (kLs5Y)
even that was not Stoner...he wanted a stainless steel bore IIRC, and instead the President of Armalite said "gee why not show we can use aluminum as the bore too?"
Remember Armalite was one of Howard Hughes' larks to show industrial potential of aluminum.
Stoner was guns' The president was marketing and hype.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 09:02 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at January 14, 2013 09:03 AM (Gvxv6)
Barky basically said:
"I'm going to hold the country hostage...and blame the Republicans for holding the country hostage."
Posted by: wheatie at January 14, 2013 09:04 AM (fH4X9)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 09:04 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 14, 2013 09:04 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2013 09:04 AM (DRG6e)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 09:05 AM (VtjlW)
Arguably the AR-15 family in a 6.5*50 config would have been the best utility rifle.
Keep the cyclic low enough and it would be burst controllable with good intermediate range and higher drop power.
Also I am personally on board the the HK-416 being a better mechanical choice for performance in desert conditions.
The slight loss of follow up shot accuracy is probably offset by improved reliability.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 09:05 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 09:05 AM (kLs5Y)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 09:05 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: Lurkasaurus at January 14, 2013 09:06 AM (061ah)
Posted by: Invictus at January 14, 2013 09:06 AM (OQpzc)
The Germans did not screw around.
I was very impressed when i got to handle the prototype at the APG Ordnance Museum and read some of the analysis of its potential/
That cyclic and recoil solution was amazing.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 09:07 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 12:53 PM (9Bj8R)
Agreed. I'm just frustrated. conservatives have so much work to do outside of Washington. Yet, a lot of big stuff is underway in D.C. now that can't be ignored. I've been watching too many Bill Whittle videos. He's advocating a new approach.
Posted by: CJ at January 14, 2013 09:07 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2013 09:08 AM (5PkZK)
http://tinyurl.com/9sjjnpe
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 09:08 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 09:09 AM (VtjlW)
I don't wanna argue this on here. Sooner or later we will be drawn into the 9mm vs. 45 debate and no-one wants to rehash that.
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 01:05 PM (kLs5Y)
Aye, especially in light of the clear superiority of the 10mm.
*runs away*
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 14, 2013 09:09 AM (mrnos)
Posted by: Big T Party at January 14, 2013 09:09 AM (WiQr+)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 09:09 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 09:10 AM (5H6zj)
What about that OICW? That gun looked badass as hell! The BFG9000 of guns.
At least we got the XM-25 out of that. I hear our people in Afghanistan really like it.
Posted by: EC at January 14, 2013 09:11 AM (GQ8sn)
If it's any consolation as a private gun owner I am firmly in the MOAR POWER please camp.
My purposes and supporting on call air/arty support options are a lot narrower you know?
You also forgot the side fight to 9mm v .45 v .40 and that is .38, .357mag, .45lc, .44mag.
I probably would never have owned a private AR at all if two things had not happened.
1) the US Army deciding 'everyone is a mall ninja" took away my wife's M-16A2 she consistently shot expert with and handed her a M-4 without the A2's ballistic magic trick
and
2) Barky choom deciding I did not need a 30 shot semi-automatic rifle with parts interchangeability with the logistics tail of the M-16 family.
We discussed the SVT-40...
my personal "make a Wish" weapon is an AG-42B with Ajax scope.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 09:11 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Invictus at January 14, 2013 09:12 AM (OQpzc)
Meh. Got to go with what I'm familiar with. The Garand (took Basic with it)--simple as a rock and just as tough, the M-14--big brother with all the Garand attributes, and the 1911--best handgun ever devised.
Keep the poodle shooters.
Posted by: irongrampa at January 14, 2013 09:13 AM (SAMxH)
http://www.flyingmag.com/aircraft/helicopters/video-eurocopter-x3-us-tour
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 09:13 AM (QidfK)
Million-dollar idea! The snow-shoveling exercise machine! You could have a little screen on it that shows a driveway, or sidewalk, or what-have-you, depending on how much of a workout you need. You also set the snow amount, then shovel away and the screen shows what you've "cleared".
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 14, 2013 09:14 AM (q33yg)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 09:14 AM (5H6zj)
550 Does 20 minutes of shoveling this morning exempt me from the friggin' treadmill?
I would think so, Y-not.
Shoveling is a pretty good workout.
Posted by: wheatie at January 14, 2013 09:14 AM (fH4X9)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 09:14 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2013 09:14 AM (XN0LR)
That Rex thing was snark right? Otherwise, to believe that, it would take a colossally stupid and massively naive tardisil induced maniac to arrive at such conclusions.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 14, 2013 09:15 AM (p/cQy)
I'm not pretending to be savvy to all of it, and one ONT I would be thrilled to have you inform me of another PoV, but in the end "peace fever baby" and even in the GOP the idea shifted from the primary objective of the military from being war winning to "multi phased mission other than war capable force."
The G-11 family suffered from the usual teething problems a genuine paradigm buster does, BUT had it been perfected it would have changed the game almost as much as the OICW....
the OICW being a general issue to all grunt weapon was stupid, the OICW being a heavy on call weapon like the Pig gunner was for my squad?
I was a 203 gunner, the OICW makes me look more outdated than I made davy Crockett look for CQB.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 09:15 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 09:15 AM (kLs5Y)
the G11 PDW and the G11 Heavy was exactly what I was speaking of in the post above, I heard stories the G11PDW was more controllable than the Colt SCAMP which was a joy to shoot.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 09:16 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: irongrampa at January 14, 2013 01:13 PM (SAMxH)
Agree!
All the stuff being proposed for "banning" isn't even on my wish list.
Calibers need to start with either "four" or "eleven".
Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at January 14, 2013 09:16 AM (Qxe/p)
wet snow or powder? big difference
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 09:16 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 09:18 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2013 09:18 AM (IyKYr)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
No, there are these things called 'trolls' ...
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 14, 2013 09:19 AM (yPX0e)
That's also a setting.
For full realism, there's also a "snow plow" feature that you can activate which randomly mimics having the city truck come by and jam another three feet of "exercise" on the end of the driveway.
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 14, 2013 09:19 AM (q33yg)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 09:21 AM (kLs5Y)
Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2013 09:21 AM (IyKYr)
I agree....just like not every soldier should be kitted out as a mall ninja not every soldier can or should be a PIG gunner or grenadier.
The XM-25 with a nice PDW as back up is probably my preferred solution.
Imagine a G11PDW slinging XM-25 cowboy providing precion fire support to grunts armed with ammo compatible G11s on the PDW, with a heavy gunner having a ballistic magic tricked 4.7 MG to boot....
Future Warrior thy friend is H&K
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 09:22 AM (LRFds)
exactly...
I'll spare you the barristers.
The fact is that for a bunch of "gun nuts" we in the private market are not half as innovation crazy as we were in the 20s and 30s....
My grandpa's older brother owned a BAR before the local cops.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 09:23 AM (LRFds)
The Vaportini
http://tinyurl.com/a6jqgzk
Link to Daily Mail
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 14, 2013 09:24 AM (81UWZ)
What about the M41A w/underslung grenade launcher? It fires the 10mm explosive tip caseless.
Posted by: EC at January 14, 2013 09:24 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: wheatie at January 14, 2013 01:15 PM (fH4X9)
Yeah, but I'd have to have a cattle ranch to afford to feed those monsters.
Posted by: Invictus at January 14, 2013 09:24 AM (OQpzc)
There's a good mid-afternoon thread for the Horde to chew on - so the tranny went out in your jeep, what do you do?
Call Danny Bonaduce. He's got experience, savvy and know-how.
And American Eskimos are the best doggehs. Period.
I. Have. Spoken.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 14, 2013 09:27 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Lurkasaurus at January 14, 2013 09:27 AM (061ah)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 09:27 AM (9Bj8R)
http://youtu.be/QQ9uEE0Iu70
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 09:28 AM (QidfK)
but remember the US Government wanting to disarm us is a-okay because "no military can stand up against our nukes."
Assholes....a coterie of assholes.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 09:29 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2013 09:29 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2013 09:29 AM (gvWL9)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 09:30 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 09:30 AM (kLs5Y)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 09:31 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, High Priest of the Gods of the Copybook Headings at January 14, 2013 09:31 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: Nevergiveup
In this case, it was Kaddafi, Quaddafi, Kwadilliachi, Pasamaquaddi... Those rebels were hired by the Duck of Death to put down the rebellion in Libya.
This Mali thing is the result of the hired jihadis returning home with a shitload of guns and money.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 14, 2013 09:31 AM (yPX0e)
Francois Hollande needs a foriegn adventure to distract from his obviously failing domestic asshattery.
Nothing more. All he is proving is that sub-saharan Africa is no longer French turf. The frogs are gonna have to face reality. No one gives a shit what they want. Without US support, Europe couldn't kick anyone's ass.
Posted by: Invictus at January 14, 2013 09:32 AM (OQpzc)
Damn near anyway.
That's the rifle the Colonial Marines carried in Aliens. That, and the Smart Rifle the heavy gunners had. Those were the ones that Vasquez and Drake "wore" instead of carried. The universe backstory said those rifles could automatically track targets for the gunner. They just had to pull the trigger. It was basically "auto aim".
Posted by: EC at January 14, 2013 09:32 AM (GQ8sn)
581 Tibetan Mastiffs are also an awesome dog.
Posted by: wheatie at January 14, 2013 01:15 PM (fH4X9)
Yeah, but I'd have to have a cattle ranch to afford to feed those monsters.
Posted by: Invictus at January 14, 2013 01:24 PM (OQpzc)
I know what you mean.
In trying to figure out what my big doggeh is...I noticed that he bears a striking resemblence to Tibetan Mastiffs.
He has the stand-up ears of a shepherd, and his muzzle is more tapered than a TM...but his coat and huge furry paws are like a TM.
Deafening bark, too.
Posted by: wheatie at January 14, 2013 09:32 AM (fH4X9)
Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2013 09:33 AM (gvWL9)
Posted by: RWC (UofT Frat member) at January 14, 2013 09:33 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 09:33 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: RWC (UofT Frat member) at January 14, 2013 09:33 AM (fWAjv)
RWC, this will be the second try at a new helicopter for the Presidential fleet. The VH-70 foundered badly due to overruns and being an EH101 based design.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 09:34 AM (QidfK)
http://youtu.be/QQ9uEE0Iu70
Chicken nuggets?!?!
Posted by: EC at January 14, 2013 09:35 AM (GQ8sn)
Definite paradigm shifting and to be honest I am not keeping up like I used to, because in the end we are led by retards.
The M-4 Universal mall Ninja push is stupid, even for the door kickers.
If you're doing rapid entry by the book you need at most 2 per squad.
The 4 inch chop greatly reduces EVERY advantage of the M-16 family over a heavier round.
More felt recoil, less accuracy, less reliability because of increased rod burn.
but hey everyone gets to play keystone Kommando.
For God's sakes if you're fighting inside of that particular window why not use and H&K UMP .45?
The cyclic is far more controllable and it is even handier than the carbine as far as sight picture.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 09:35 AM (LRFds)
Everything is a racist dog whistle to him. He's the darling of the MFM.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 14, 2013 09:36 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2013 09:36 AM (gvWL9)
Heh remember the one day where we had no thread until 1930?
That was "aces."
I think the ONT got up to about 3,000 posts IIRC.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 09:36 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Andrew at January 14, 2013 09:36 AM (uud0p)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 09:36 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 14, 2013 09:37 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 09:37 AM (kLs5Y)
585...Aren't those the ones that cost $5-10k each from breeders?
Yeah, they can be really expensive.
There are breeders all across the country now...so they're not that rare here anymore.
Posted by: wheatie at January 14, 2013 09:38 AM (fH4X9)
Yes I know.
I was mocking the "wiz kids.'
jean nailed it, too many people in design and marketing have no idea what the mission windows really are.
Add in that a pistol caliber carbine would be just fine for about 75% of US forces for practical usage on the battlefield especially if offered in selective fire with say a 20 shot mag solution and....nm I'll shut up now.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 09:38 AM (LRFds)
I was reading something, maybe at AR15.com, about some troops grousing about the MP-7 and how they kicked themselves for taking it and not something with longer reach in Afghanistan when they were being lit up by Talis.
Posted by: EC at January 14, 2013 09:39 AM (GQ8sn)
A blood red flag with the silhouette of a raptor on it?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 09:39 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: RWC (UofT Frat member) at January 14, 2013 09:39 AM (fWAjv)
Thanks Ace, for your words of wisdom!
JRB .... what brand. How much?
Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2013 09:39 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 09:39 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2013 09:40 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 75% more DOOM! at January 14, 2013 09:40 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: t-bird at January 14, 2013 09:40 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 75% more DOOM! at January 14, 2013 09:40 AM (xAtAj)
Everything is a racist dog whistle to him. He's the darling of the MFM.
my theory is, he is still butthurt from being sent up to the UN to make Dubya's case for Iraq and WMD- every thing he has done since is him feeling he needs to re-hab his credibility
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 09:40 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2013 09:41 AM (J7sV0)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 14, 2013 09:41 AM (0It32)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 09:42 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 09:42 AM (VtjlW)
571 Will no one rid us of this thread??
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 01:18 PM (QidfK)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 14, 2013 09:42 AM (8sCoq)
Yup pretty much....
you'll recall my tales of the boarding house from hell in college after I left the army?
The one that had the retard who pissed off the Aryan USAFR gun nut to the point the guy would clean his shotgun nightly?
Yeah one of the Chinese students who lived there that I still miss was a great guy.
I'd trust him with my son's care and that is truly the highest honor I can give.
Anyway he was only half as screwed up as the young Aviation medicine guy on "wooing the objects of your affections" and then satisfying them.
Fact is at the end of the day the Chinese guy lost his wife because the German she was screwing at University of maryland knew how to whisper sweet nothings and had a bigger and more skillfully used wrench.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 09:42 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Lurkasaurus at January 14, 2013 09:43 AM (061ah)
Empress AlexTC has already informed me I will spend my life on the frontier with the legions. Being devastatingly handsome will not save me. I should have been nice to the raptors.
Posted by: Invictus at January 14, 2013 09:43 AM (OQpzc)
Oh no you di-int.
Now we're back to the old manatee vs dugong wars.
Good times.
Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2013 09:44 AM (KXm42)
we missed you in the sunday gunday thread.
Yeah You could use the Storm as a baseline, adding in burst selection wouldn't be hard.
The average soldier will never lift rifle to shoulder at any target over 200 yards away.
The numbers are very different for combat arms guys, but my wife for example....yeah she helped in one firefight in her career, but she was in a FOB and only added suppression from what I am told....she doesn't talk about it much and prefers telling nice stories about avoiding rocket fire.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 09:44 AM (LRFds)
It was actually the SPAS-12, not the 870.
Posted by: EC at January 14, 2013 09:45 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Y-not at January 14, 2013 09:46 AM (5H6zj)
Burst selector? Well will have to field 30rd or maybe 34rd stick mags for the Storm then.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 09:47 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 09:47 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 09:47 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: RUReadingthis at January 14, 2013 09:48 AM (V92KK)
yeah we've seen this movie before the Afghans were treeing the goddamned Ivans with Snider rifles at some points.
I just don't believe the "every man and woman is carlos hathcock" bullshit either.
For Long patrols you should have A2s or ideally AR-10s.
The USMC really confused me with their "sharpshooter 5.56" designspec....
um you'd be a lot better off for lethal precision fire with an SR-25 team.....
like jean says I am betting 'weight" and "ammo xchange' are the buzzwords stopping proper profiling.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 09:49 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 09:49 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2013 09:49 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: RWC (UofT Frat member) at January 14, 2013 09:49 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: thunderb at January 14, 2013 09:49 AM (Dnbau)
or adopt the Soviet...er Russian predilicition with the two shot burst "insta double tap"....but Yeah.
10 bursts is doable.....the main thing is we keep trying to play world cop on the cheap to no gain.
When I ponder that it makes my soul hurt.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 09:50 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Invictus at January 14, 2013 09:50 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: Reginald fitzUrse, Hugh de Morville, William de Tracy, and Richard le Breton at January 14, 2013 09:50 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 09:51 AM (kLs5Y)
Posted by: Cheri at January 14, 2013 09:51 AM (G+Wff)
Posted by: Clemenza at January 14, 2013 09:52 AM (3GuQx)
there is no new thread up there... its a trap!
Posted by: thunderb at January 14, 2013 09:52 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2013 09:53 AM (KXm42)
I don't see a big problem with that for a majority of soldiers.
the .30 carbine is plenty fine for personal work.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 09:53 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2013 09:54 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 09:54 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: thunderb at January 14, 2013 09:54 AM (Dnbau)
I think it's spelled "fap"
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2013 09:55 AM (QKKT0)
http://youtu.be/ar-poc38C84
This is not good. A firebomber SP-2H #55 does an emergency landing with one main wheel stuck.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 09:55 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: thunderb at January 14, 2013 09:55 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 14, 2013 09:56 AM (v07al)
I am sick to death of Colin Powell.
Everything is a racist dog whistle to him. He's the darling of the MFM.
Don't forget that he's clean and articulate, as well.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 14, 2013 09:56 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: thunderb at January 14, 2013 09:57 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 09:57 AM (kLs5Y)
Posted by: t-bird at January 14, 2013 09:57 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: BlueStateRepub at January 14, 2013 09:57 AM (7ObY1)
Either that, or he's left the country for Singapore or something.
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 14, 2013 09:58 AM (GoIUi)
*sigh*
Oh, well. At least I should be scheduled by the end of the day, so there's that.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 09:58 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2013 09:58 AM (GFM2b)
Story in nick.
GAH
Maybe this will convince the wife that we need to start stocking up.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 75% more DOOM! at January 14, 2013 09:58 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: olddog at January 14, 2013 09:58 AM (Ijr/x)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 09:58 AM (QidfK)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 14, 2013 09:59 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 09:59 AM (kLs5Y)
Posted by: RWC at January 14, 2013 09:59 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: thunderb at January 14, 2013 09:59 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 14, 2013 10:00 AM (VtjlW)
Afternoon all! Just checking in to say -- really? This thread is STILL going? Did all the coblogs get drunk watching football yesterday and are sleeping it off today?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at January 14, 2013 10:00 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 10:00 AM (kLs5Y)
650 I found an old email from the breeder. It was a Red Tibetan Mastiff he was talking about. A puppy sold for £1mil in early 2011 they're really rare.
Posted by: Lurkasaurus at January 14, 2013 01:43 PM (061ah)
Red Tibetan Mastiff's are gorgeous.
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So are the white ones.
£1mil...for a puppy?
Damn.
I've stumbled upon some US breeder sites that have them in the $2500 to $10K range.
Posted by: wheatie at January 14, 2013 10:00 AM (fH4X9)
Posted by: thunderb at January 14, 2013 10:01 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 14, 2013 10:01 AM (ORGYc)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at January 14, 2013 10:01 AM (K+mtQ)
nice....well the Walton fuckers better get Obama to pass a law forcing me to shop there.
You lie down with donks you're gonna get up with fleas, and a sore ass Walmart.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 10:01 AM (LRFds)
I claim this thread in the name of alextopia! Love and despair, bitches!
I grovel at your feet in humble obeisance, Imperial One, and offer this as tribute:
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 14, 2013 10:02 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2013 10:02 AM (GFM2b)
£1mil...for a puppy?
Damn.
I've stumbled upon some US breeder sites that have them in the $2500 to $10K range.
Golly. If the starting up costs weren't so large, I'd would say I have found my new job...
Posted by: Grey Fox at January 14, 2013 10:03 AM (rZPpd)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 10:04 AM (kLs5Y)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 14, 2013 10:04 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 14, 2013 10:04 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: thunderb at January 14, 2013 10:04 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 10:04 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at January 14, 2013 10:04 AM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Soona at January 14, 2013 10:04 AM (qYQR1)
Welcome to the Government Gun Grab list. It's ok. I'm already on so many of them that one more won't matter.
They can only grab the ones they know about.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 14, 2013 10:05 AM (5DR1j)
http://youtu.be/aYZAXb96aVQ
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 10:06 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: thunderb at January 14, 2013 10:06 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Squishey the road skunk at January 14, 2013 10:07 AM (KXm42)
Just kidding.Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 10:07 AM (kLs5Y)
http://bit.ly/ZPQ6Ow
Posted by: olddog at January 14, 2013 01:58 PM (Ijr/x)
-----------------------------------------------
If they do, it won't be much of a loss. They're as out of common ammo as everyone else.
Posted by: Soona at January 14, 2013 10:08 AM (qYQR1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 10:08 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 14, 2013 10:08 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2013 10:09 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 10:09 AM (QidfK)
Posted by: thunderb at January 14, 2013 10:10 AM (Dnbau)
Be nice it is not John McCain's fault that there is only the smell of rank quim adrift....
Sarah Palin was in Ohio speaking and she couldn't break up his aroma.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 10:10 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2013 01:58 PM (QidfK)
I might or might not have once been known as Rodent Freikorps, and/or Rodent Liberation Front.
Posted by: Invictus at January 14, 2013 10:10 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 14, 2013 10:11 AM (kLs5Y)
Posted by: David (NOT Dave!), infamous sockpuppet at January 14, 2013 10:12 AM (/YJKo)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2013 10:13 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 10:13 AM (9Bj8R)
Thanks.
Posted by: David (NOT Dave!), infamous sockpuppet at January 14, 2013 02:12 PM (/YJKo)
--- Don't get off Bourbon or Royal street if you value your life
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 14, 2013 10:14 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: joey biden at January 14, 2013 10:14 AM (ORGYc)
Posted by: occam at January 14, 2013 10:14 AM (4+lE0)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2013 10:14 AM (9Bj8R)
So, I am querying the moron horde. What are some good possibilities?
Never been to NOLA, don't care to. But there was a show on the Travel Channel the other day about the country's best meatloaf places, and they showed one there. It was called, I think, Praline Connection and looked yummy. Anybody know about it?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 14, 2013 10:15 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 14, 2013 10:16 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: occam at January 14, 2013 02:14 PM (4+lE0
--- Then the blue states should be happy to get rid of us
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 14, 2013 10:16 AM (R8hU8)
We need a truce *snicker* on social issues so we can focus *chortle* our attention on fiscal restraint *guffaw!*.
Posted by: Team Republican
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 14, 2013 10:17 AM (kdS6q)
generally you are full of shit if you remove defense spending from the mix.
Do go on fuckhead.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 10:17 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 14, 2013 10:18 AM (Vk2pI)
damn skippy...
since they believe in "natuion building" and letting diverse minorities declare independence when it undermines our missions I am saying, "why not here?"
Posted by: sven10077 at January 14, 2013 10:18 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Paul W. Swansen at January 14, 2013 11:20 AM (1Cw0m)
When I was visiting NO, I rode the street cars a lot. I also did a walking tour of the downtown cemeteries. And the tours for the plantations are fun too.
As for paying for Sandy, I have a place on the river (which also means I have a lawsuit with DNR, but that is a whole nother story). It has a double wide mobile put in in 1976. We can't build, because it's in a flood plane. We can't put in a new double-wide. The only thing we seem to be able to do is rebuild the trailer one wall at a time. I would think that a lot of those homes can't be rebuilt. Being grandfathered in doesn't really help when it comes to the environmentalists.
And what happened to all the money raised at the 12/12/12 concert?
Posted by: notsothoreau at January 14, 2013 11:33 AM (5HBd1)
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